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Dragnet: The Big Quack (EP4562) · The Great Detectives Present Dragnet (Old Time Radio)

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  Speaker 1: From October twelfth, nineteen fifty here is the Big Quack.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight in Colorado Springs, Colorado, a group of men are
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  Speaker 2: gathered together for their annual conference for the day in,
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  Speaker 2: Day out service to the public. Dragnet honors the fifty
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  Speaker 2: seventh Annual Conference of the International Association of Chiefs of Police.
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  Speaker 2: The story you're about to hear is true, only the
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  Speaker 2: names have been changed to protect the innocent.
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  Speaker 3: You're a detective sergeant.
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  Speaker 4: You're assigned to burglary detail.
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  Speaker 2: A man posing as a doctor is burglarizing homes in
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  Speaker 2: your city. You have his description, your job find him.
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  Speaker 3: Dragnet the documented story of an actual crime. While the
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  Speaker 3: you will travel step by step on the side of
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  Speaker 3: the law through an actual case, from official police files,
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  Speaker 3: from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is
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  Speaker 3: the story of your police force in action.
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  Speaker 5: It was Sunday, November twenty second, was Chile in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 5: We were working a day watch out of Burgery Detail.
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  Speaker 5: My partner's Ben Romero, the boss's Slad Brown, Chief Detectives.
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  Speaker 5: My name's Friday. It was nine thirty five am when
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  Speaker 5: we got to five nine one eight Canyon Cove, the
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  Speaker 5: home of Marla Hutchins.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, Miss Marla Hutchins.
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  Speaker 7: I'm Miss Marla Hutchins.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: We're police officers, ma'am. This is Sergeant Romero. I'm Sergeant Friday,
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  Speaker 5: Central Birgery.
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  Speaker 7: Come in.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you.
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  Speaker 7: Betty told me.
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  Speaker 6: She called you your Maney.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, I'm Betty Greg.
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  Speaker 6: I called you and if you could tell us what happened.
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  Speaker 7: Please, Doctor Arthur Shulte was treating me for headaches. I
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  Speaker 7: have he took my mint coaches and my jewelry.
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  Speaker 6: Do you have a list of what's missing?
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  Speaker 8: Betty will have a list of what's missing here. I've
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  Speaker 8: written down everything I think sci thank you.
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  Speaker 9: Well.
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  Speaker 6: Why do you say it was this sh doctor Schulte?
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  Speaker 6: Is that right? Yes? Why do you say it was
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  Speaker 6: him that took things? Miss Suchins?
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  Speaker 7: He did it. I know he did it. The doctor
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  Speaker 7: was the only other person in the apartment. Officer.
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  Speaker 6: When was this last night? What time was the doctor
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  Speaker 6: here last night?
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  Speaker 7: It's about eight I heard him leave later about nine fifteen.
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  Speaker 6: That right, Miss Hutchins, Yes, that's right. What could the
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  Speaker 6: apartment have been entered without either one of you knowing it?
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  Speaker 8: No, sir, the back entrance is double latched, and no
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  Speaker 8: one could have broken in the front way. My room's
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  Speaker 8: right beside the front door, and I would have.
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  Speaker 10: Heard you told us on the phone that this doctor
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  Speaker 10: Shulete was uh middle age dark rose to five feet eleven.
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  Speaker 6: Stocky And where's it goatee?
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  Speaker 7: Yes?
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  Speaker 6: No other distinguishing fentures is that correct. Yes? How about
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  Speaker 6: his clothes? Where he was dressed?
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  Speaker 7: He was about average. He had on a gray suit
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  Speaker 7: the last time, my sun, I don't care. Do you
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  Speaker 7: know who he is?
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  Speaker 6: We'll find out. What kind of treatment were you taking
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  Speaker 6: from doctor Shuletay and such as I call it?
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if therapy for.
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  Speaker 5: My head aches last night the same thing, yes, or
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  Speaker 5: anything different from his previous visits.
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  Speaker 7: I was very nervous. You made me take three sleeping
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  Speaker 7: capsules and I went to sleep, and she was.
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  Speaker 8: Still sleeping this morning when I went in and found
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  Speaker 8: everything in the dressing table all over the floor.
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  Speaker 6: You see. Have you known this doctor Shultey Long was.
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  Speaker 4: Huch As about four months.
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  Speaker 6: Did you meet him at a party? Maybe? No?
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  Speaker 7: I was a student of his.
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  Speaker 6: But where was this?
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  Speaker 7: This small college in Hollywood? He was ahead of the school.
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  Speaker 7: He was a teacher too.
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  Speaker 6: Do you have the name and address of the college? Bet?
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  Speaker 4: He can give it to you.
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  Speaker 7: It's in my desk.
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  Speaker 6: You're still a student there?
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  Speaker 7: No, I don't take the course.
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  Speaker 9: I stopped.
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  Speaker 7: College was closed. That's when he came here to treat
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  Speaker 7: me for my head aches.
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  Speaker 6: How did he start giving any treatments? Miss Sutchins one.
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  Speaker 7: Day in his lecture. I fainted to his office and
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  Speaker 7: told me that Payne was only a state of mind.
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  Speaker 7: State of mind, that's my My headache didn't bother me
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  Speaker 7: any more. He said that relief would only be temporary
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  Speaker 7: if I didn't take regular treatments.
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  Speaker 6: What did you see him regularly?
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  Speaker 7: I saw him twice a week, twice a week, always here.
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  Speaker 6: At the college. Then it closed.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know why. He telephoned, said he would continue here.
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  Speaker 6: Well, what did you get in touch with him when
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  Speaker 6: the college closed?
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  Speaker 7: I never did. He always called here.
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  Speaker 6: Do you have any idea where he is now? No?
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  Speaker 7: I just know that he's a thief man. Why don't
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  Speaker 7: you lie down, Miss Hutchins, You looked tired, all right?
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  Speaker 6: Thank you, Miss Hutchins, Yes, ma'am, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 7: All right? Would you gentlemen like them coffee?
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  Speaker 6: Oh? Ben, I could chew you so it would be
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  Speaker 6: very nice, miss, Thank you. Officer, yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 8: If this man's just a common thief, treatments he's been
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  Speaker 8: giving Miss Hutchins couldn't have been very good, could they?
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  Speaker 5: She still got the headaches, hasn't she? Eleven fifty am?
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  Speaker 5: We checked the apartment for physical evidence. There was nothing
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  Speaker 5: to indicate that the place had been broken into. We
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  Speaker 5: put in a call the Latent Fingerprints to send a
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  Speaker 5: man out.
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  Speaker 6: To check the closet and dresser. We completed the crime
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  Speaker 6: report and Betty greg the maid, gave us the name and.
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  Speaker 5: Address of doctor Shultey's college, the Los Angeles College of
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  Speaker 5: Psychotherapeutics and Psychiatry, at a Franklin Street number in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 5: Ben and I got out of teletype to Sacramento asking
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  Speaker 5: information on the chattering of the school that doctor Shulte
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  Speaker 5: was supposed to have had. We checked on Betty Greg
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  Speaker 5: the maid, and found that she was a Los Angeles
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  Speaker 5: girl parents still living in the city.
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  Speaker 6: She had a good reputation. Two thirty five pm we
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  Speaker 6: went to the address where the college has been. It
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  Speaker 6: was a big brown clambered house with several dormer windows
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  Speaker 6: facing the street. Was vacant. The front door was boarded up.
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  Speaker 5: A rental agency sign was stuck up on one of
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  Speaker 5: the pillars on the front porch.
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  Speaker 6: Joe room. There must have been where they had glasses.
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  Speaker 6: Those are chairs nailed down, you see me? Look, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I don't see any papers inside.
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  Speaker 11: No mail.
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  Speaker 4: Hi yep, my name's Tom Thompson. Interested in the place.
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  Speaker 6: You're the agent?
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  Speaker 12: No, No, I just lived next door. I'm a dry
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  Speaker 12: cleaner myself, but I sort of promised a real estate agent.
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  Speaker 12: I'd keep an eye peels, see if I could be
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  Speaker 12: of help. Anyone came, run shepherd.
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  Speaker 6: Or police officers were just checking home?
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  Speaker 4: Was there something wrong? Somebody break in?
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  Speaker 6: Did you live next door when this was a school here?
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, that's psychology punch there here, but ten months maybe last.
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  Speaker 12: I always thought it was kind of a shoe string operation.
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  Speaker 12: Oh you know how much dough they're just make it
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  Speaker 12: in me?
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  Speaker 6: No class, you know, always just adults.
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  Speaker 4: Well, classes used to be mostly during the day. I
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  Speaker 4: was at work. The wife used to tell me, they're
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  Speaker 4: no kids that cheap or so.
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  Speaker 6: Did you know the man that ran the school?
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  Speaker 4: No, already.
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  Speaker 12: He was a middle aged guy with a kind of
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  Speaker 12: a pointed beard, had a palow younger guy never stopped
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  Speaker 12: to talk.
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  Speaker 4: They're pretty tight up guys, like I said, Why what
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  Speaker 4: they do?
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  Speaker 6: A routine investigation? It's done. Do you have any idea
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  Speaker 6: where they might be contacted now?
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  Speaker 12: The interstate agent said they skipped without paying last month's
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  Speaker 12: run for him.
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  Speaker 4: He's been trying to find him.
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  Speaker 6: Do you remember their names?
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  Speaker 4: Oh well, let's.
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  Speaker 12: See when with the older guy. The guy with a
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  Speaker 12: beard was named Shultz or something like that. I can't
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  Speaker 12: remember the young fellow though. But hey, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 12: wait a minute, I got the door.
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  Speaker 4: How's that?
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  Speaker 12: I got their door? The agent let me have the
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  Speaker 12: front door. I'm building a party or ports in the
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  Speaker 12: back of my house. And the glass that I took
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  Speaker 12: out of the doors got the names.
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  Speaker 4: Lettered on it.
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  Speaker 6: It's time.
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  Speaker 4: Come on, I'll see if I still.
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  Speaker 6: Got in the garage.
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  Speaker 4: It's letter on a little chilly today.
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  Speaker 6: Huh yeah, I.
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  Speaker 4: Want to stand back then, wh h's a door?
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  Speaker 5: Here we go.
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  Speaker 4: I like to keep a nice neat garage.
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  Speaker 6: Sure looks nice.
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  Speaker 4: Oh thanks?
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  Speaker 5: Say that these men live in the house, mister Thompson,
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  Speaker 5: and they just use it for the school, you know,
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  Speaker 5: oh best on all, just for classes.
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  Speaker 4: Like I say, they're pretty tight like guys, not very
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  Speaker 4: part and they're real quiet.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I got just leave it right there. We'll come over there.
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  Speaker 6: You wanted to move it. Let's see.
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  Speaker 5: Los Angeles College of Psychotherapeutics and Psychiatry doctor Arthur William Shuelta.
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  Speaker 6: Shoelta d A A pH D, s c D. Of
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  Speaker 6: course to short doctor Leo George Donaldson d V, PhD,
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  Speaker 6: s c D. I gut it you okay, it's fine.
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  Speaker 6: We are much obliged, mister Thompson.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, here's our card. If you hear anything regarding these men,
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  Speaker 4: we'd appreciate.
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  Speaker 6: You calling us.
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  Speaker 4: Oh sure, sure, I'll be glad to here.
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  Speaker 6: There's my car.
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  Speaker 12: Oh uh, ideal cleaners over an ive art you get
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  Speaker 12: around that way? Why drive some stuff off? See it
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  Speaker 12: gets special attention.
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  Speaker 6: Well, thank you very much, Miss Tompson.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's okay, sugar out. I didn't throw that glass away.
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  Speaker 12: Brother, Look at all of letters after the name is eh,
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  Speaker 12: what don't what it takes to get a lineup of
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  Speaker 12: degrees like that paintbrush.
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  Speaker 5: In about ten minutes five pm, Ben and I drove
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  Speaker 5: back to the office. There was a report from Layton fingerprints,
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  Speaker 5: nothing but the prints of the two girls had been
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  Speaker 5: found in the Hutchins apartment.
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  Speaker 4: We checked what information we had on Shuelte and Donaldson
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  Speaker 4: through to the FBI on the teletype.
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  Speaker 6: A check of doctors registered with the.
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  Speaker 5: Los Angeles County Medical Association and the American Psychiatric Association
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  Speaker 5: failed to turn up anybody named doctor Shulte. We had
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  Speaker 5: our I Bureau and Stat's office make runs on Leo
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  Speaker 5: Donaldson and Shuelta and a run down on the reports
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  Speaker 5: where the burger had posed as a psychologist. The Stat's
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  Speaker 5: office turned up a couple of dozen new suspects.
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  Speaker 6: We pulled the mug shots and headed for the Hutchins apartment.
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  Speaker 6: It's like something doing at the Hutchings apartment. HUF a
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  Speaker 6: lot of Cruiser cars. Huh. I settled up, all right,
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  Speaker 6: can't go in. Sorry for Friday Romero Central Burgery.
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  Speaker 4: Oh sure, sir, what's the teth girl name of Hutchins
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  Speaker 4: shot herself?
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  Speaker 3: You are listening to dragnet authentic stories of your police
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  Speaker 3: force in action.
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  Speaker 5: Monday, November twenty third, during the morning, the Coroner's office
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  Speaker 5: signed off Marla Hutchin's case.
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  Speaker 6: The verdict was that she had taken her own life.
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  Speaker 5: The police psychiatrist told us that probably the hypnotic treatments
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  Speaker 5: by Shulte had hastened her death. The information we'd received
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  Speaker 5: from the Medical Association told us that they had had
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  Speaker 5: complaints against.
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  Speaker 6: The operation of the Shulte school.
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  Speaker 5: They had pointed out to us that it takes over
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  Speaker 5: twelve years and recognized medical schools to become a member
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  Speaker 5: of the American Psychiatric Association. Shiulte had been mass producing
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  Speaker 5: pseudo psychiatrists in eight weeks one we met with Captain Pullland.
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  Speaker 14: School was a phony degrees and diploma sold anybody who
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  Speaker 14: had cash.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're not operating anymore and we checked that out.
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  Speaker 6: They're gone.
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  Speaker 4: Oh here's the answer to your telettecht Sacramento.
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  Speaker 14: Thank you gives details on the application for the School
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  Speaker 14: of Shureley. He's listed as founder and Dean. Donaldson has
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  Speaker 14: listed his staff. No addresses other than the Franklin Street
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  Speaker 14: number that anything else. A month ago, Leo Donaldson opened
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  Speaker 14: courses of construction in Los Angeles under the title of
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  Speaker 14: California Physicians College as Pschiatry seven eighty one South Hill Street.
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  Speaker 6: Shulton associated with him. No have any idea where Shureley is.
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  Speaker 5: No, we don't, but we're looking. We've got the support
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  Speaker 5: of the medical people to push a BUNCO charge for
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  Speaker 5: the operation of the old school. Donaldson should be able
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  Speaker 5: to give you a lead on Shulty.
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  Speaker 6: Thinks they might be in contact. Looks like they acted
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  Speaker 6: and ran the school together. Even though Shulte was legal
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  Speaker 6: response and Ben and I have an idea on well,
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  Speaker 6: maybe we can find out how's that.
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  Speaker 5: We thought one of us could make a pitch to
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  Speaker 5: Donaldson and see if he'd sell a degree from the
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  Speaker 5: new school, get evidence to support a Bunco warrant, and
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  Speaker 5: check at the same time to see if Donaldson has
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  Speaker 5: contact with Shuelte.
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  Speaker 6: I'll let Bunco detail know. We'd try. You think you
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  Speaker 6: can do it?
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  Speaker 5: Might try You know anything else about Donaldson's courses. No,
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  Speaker 5: that doesn't bother me. Oh come, neither is Donaldson and
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  Speaker 5: trying to get Shulte through his former associate Leo Donaldson.
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  Speaker 5: We again contacted the Medical Association. They furnished this with
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  Speaker 5: the name of Ralph Morse, a graduate of the Franklin
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  Speaker 5: Street School who had since been killed in an auto accident.
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  Speaker 5: Tuesday eleven thirty am, Ben and I get the seven
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  Speaker 5: eighty one South Hill Street, a seventh story office building
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  Speaker 5: in the heart of the Los Angeles business district. The
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  Speaker 5: directory in the lobby list of the California Positions College
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  Speaker 5: of Psychiatry for romans two fourteen and two sixteen.
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  Speaker 6: Ben waited outside in the car. I took the elevator up.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, man, I help you.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, doctor Donaldson, I'm doctor Leo Donaldson. Have you have assistance?
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  Speaker 11: Oh?
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  Speaker 6: My name is Frank Ditton. I wanted to ask about
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  Speaker 6: the curriculum here.
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  Speaker 15: Well, we've just opened, mister Ditton, we're not quite ready
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  Speaker 15: to start classes. You understand this is a very advanced instruction.
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  Speaker 15: Most of our students will have had considerable background in psychiatry.
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  Speaker 5: Oh well, a friend of mine, doctor Morse, said that
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  Speaker 5: they were sure I'd be a good student.
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  Speaker 6: For you, doctor Morse. I'm not sure when I place him.
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  Speaker 6: Oh he was one of your students at the Franklin
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  Speaker 6: Street School. Said that. Uh, doctor Schulte know him quite well.
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  Speaker 6: Oh oh, yes, yes, I remember. Brilliant man. How's he
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  Speaker 6: getting along? He was killed in a car collision. Oh
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  Speaker 6: that's too bad.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Frankly, what I was interested in is being able
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  Speaker 5: to take over his practice. Could I get the same
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  Speaker 5: deal he got?
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  Speaker 6: I think so, mister Ditton. What'd you have in mind?
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  Speaker 6: We'll take some.
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  Speaker 5: Courses and get a degree. I worked with Morse for
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  Speaker 5: a while. I can set up a clinic he did. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: I figure maybe I can too.
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  Speaker 6: Well, here's a list of the courses we'll offer. Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: We'll over together and you can indicate what sphere of
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  Speaker 6: study you'd like to undertake. Does doctor Schulte teach any
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  Speaker 6: of these courses? No, he doesn't.
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  Speaker 15: Now the first semester will include Painless and Druglist, Childbirth,
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  Speaker 15: Practical and Applied Psychology out of suggestion, prenatal suggestion.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well look, doctor Donaldson, straight Practical and Applied psychology
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  Speaker 5: is the specialty that I want.
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  Speaker 6: See. Of what degree do I get? And how much
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  Speaker 6: will it cost?
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  Speaker 15: Well, at least expensive. Is a doctor of Psychotherapy at
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  Speaker 15: four hundred and fifty dollars. A Doctor of Philosophy and
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  Speaker 15: Psychology is five hundred dollars for all purposes if you
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  Speaker 15: can afford it. Mister Ditton is a doctorate of Science.
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  Speaker 15: That's eight hundred. That course was a thousand dollars at
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  Speaker 15: the Franklin Street School.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I don't know. It's a lot of money. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: I have to have it, though, and if you'd take
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  Speaker 5: a checking.
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  Speaker 15: Out, certainly you understand what a tremendous advantage these degrees
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  Speaker 15: are to the professional man who, for one reason or
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  Speaker 15: another may never had a chance to get a college diploma.
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  Speaker 6: The course is very hard. You look like an intelligent man,
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: mister Didton. I'm sure you'd have no difficulty. All right,
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: I'll say, Look, doctor.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: I live out in Van Eyes now, and I'm working
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: three days a week the present time, it's going to
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: be pretty tough to get downtown here.
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: Do I have to be here every day?
• 16:16
  Speaker 15: Since it's the diplomas most of our students are interested in,
• 16:19
  Speaker 15: we have on occasion made exceptions in cases like yours.
• 16:22
  Speaker 15: I appreciate that we could possibly, in the case of
• 16:25
  Speaker 15: a doctorate of science, present you with your diploma in
• 16:27
  Speaker 15: advance if you're taking the course, and you could launch
• 16:29
  Speaker 15: into private practice at once, take the course whenever it
• 16:32
  Speaker 15: suited you.
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: I couldn't ask for a better deal.
• 16:34
  Speaker 15: Everything's mentioned in this catalog, and the forums are in
• 16:36
  Speaker 15: the back. Why don't you sit down, I think, Oh,
• 16:38
  Speaker 15: thank you very much.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, rules and regulations. No books are required as students,
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: lots of break huh.
• 16:51
  Speaker 15: We let you a little differently from some colleges, and
• 16:53
  Speaker 15: therefore we've dispensed with texts because we feel they tend
• 16:56
  Speaker 15: to confuse the data.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: When I take the course, who will be my instructor?
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: I will well Morse talked a lot about doctor Shulte.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: Does he teach any of the classes?
• 17:05
  Speaker 7: No.
• 17:05
  Speaker 15: Doctor Schulte was associated with me in the operation of
• 17:08
  Speaker 15: the Franklin Street School, but is not the staff member
• 17:10
  Speaker 15: of the California Physicians College or Psychiatry.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: Well is wondering if I paid extra, could I get
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: some classes with him? More said that he picked up
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: a lot of useful information from Shulda.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: He's a fellow with a goatee, and he yes.
• 17:21
  Speaker 15: That's right or truthfully, I have no idea where doctor
• 17:24
  Speaker 15: Shulte is presently located.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: Understand, that's one regulation here.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: No student will be admitted who cannot show documentary proof
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: of the successful completion of secondary school work high school.
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: You can understand that, can'tier, mister didn't? I mean?
• 17:43
  Speaker 15: Well, there are certain minimum academic standards we must observe. Yeah,
• 17:46
  Speaker 15: in order to maintain the quality of our degree.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: Doctor Donaldson accepted my check to the amount of eight
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: hundred dollars. I asked for a receipt, and he filled
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: out a blank Doctorate of Science degree with she carefully
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: lettered with the name Frank Ditton and signed himself as dean.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: I arrested Donaldson and Ben and I took him in
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: for booking. One PM, we received a long teletype from Washington.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: Arthur Shulte had a record of arrests and convictions back east,
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: and started with a conviction sixteen years ago for the
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: interstate transportation of pornographic motion pictures. The record gave us
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: no known addresses, but important in the information was the
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: fact that Schulte had originally been trained and had worked
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: at being a projectionist in movie theaters. In the mo
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: was the notation that he'd been known to take up
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: his old occupation when sought by authorities. One thirty five
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: PM we contacted the local office of the Motion Picture
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: Projectionist Union, where they told us that they had placed
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: in Arthur Shulte in the booth of one of the
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: main street newsreel houses. On Sunday, that was the day before.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: Two thirty pm. The Crescent Theater was buried between two
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: bars and advertised an hour of newsreels and short subjects
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: for twenty cents.
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: Where's the manager?
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: I'm him and we talked to him in at police officers.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: What I say, we're police officers.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: We'd like to talk to you.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Nobody here to take over. Why don't you come in
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: and I can open the booth door here and talk. Okay,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: right around the back, I guess here, Ben. Thanks, Hey, mister, okay,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: what's the trouble, officers. You have a Madden of the
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: name of Schulte working here. That's right, projectionist isn't working right,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: there's minute though it comes undue the four an hour.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: Alright, I wonder if you'd to take a look at
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: this description, police. Sure, there you are.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Five eleven man working here's clean shaven, No go tee
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: inside of that sounds the same? Any idea where he lives?
• 19:47
  Speaker 14: No, I don't.
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: Well, we'll have to wait for him here.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Alright, Wait a minute, This one where you wanna wait inside?
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: Well, I think we'd rather stay up in the projection booth.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: It's all right up the steel stairs there on the right.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Tell Pete, I agen he's the man up there now.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: I said it was okay, all right.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: Don't say anything to him when he gets you. What
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: do you say, I won't be yes. This way.
• 20:13
  Speaker 11: It's a long climb, right, yeah, oh yeah, this must
• 20:23
  Speaker 11: be it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: Hey, mister mister, yeah, police officers, anything wrong, We're gonna
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: have to wait here. The manager said it was Okay,
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: wait for what. We want to talk to your relief man,
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: I mean the doc.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: You know him just since yesterday?
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: Why do you call him the doc? Oh?
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: You know, speaks kind of pantcy for a projectionist.
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: What do you do? Oh, we just like to talk
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: to him.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Okay, you know the guy doesn't come on for about
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: an hour. Yeah, they told us, hey, you want to
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: look at the picture. You can both sit by the
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: observation port on the film safe there.
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 20:59
  Speaker 16: Thanks, sit over here, Ben, just all right here? Yeah, huh, Well,
• 21:06
  Speaker 16: what's the matter. I've seen this news room.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: My for PM. Shoelte was nearly two hours late. Ben
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: and I were worrying about whether or somehow he'd been
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: tipping us.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Usual for men to be this late for a shift.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Not in a house like this. Bigger house would be different.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Wait it is with the doc being late like this,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: just coross the boss a couple of bucks.
• 21:30
  Speaker 11: What do you mean?
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I got more dough? I'm over my maximum hours. The
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: old guy'd stay away long enough, I'd be on golden
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: golden what's that? Yeah? Double and a half time boys
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: in a business called a golden time. Oh, most of
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: you can get his double golden. You'll get that working
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: over maximum number of hours after midnight on a Sunday.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Uh huh, that's double golden. Never happened to me, though.
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: How do you stand?
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: What do you mean the money? It's not a noise.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: You can get used to it. Don't pay any attention
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: after a while.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: Don't you get tired of hearing the same soundtrack over
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: and over?
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: No, you just know it's there. It never registers what
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: they're saying. I mean, just if it stops when it
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: shouldn't get used to it. Over the years, I've been
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: doing this wrong, eleven. It's a long time. Excuse me.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I gotta make it switch over. Would you say I
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: said I gotta make it switch over. I've been watching
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: you do that all afternoon.
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: How do you know when to turn the other projector on?
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Mark's on the film up in the right corner, and
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: the screen usually a black dot. Look through the window,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: look ben right here. The first tells me to start
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: the other projector when the second dot hits, I cut
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: this one, turn on the other one. Now watch okay,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: say the first one, uh huh? Now the second dot see.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: Uh huh?
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Smooth? You never know the difference. Simple stuff people have
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: never seen. The notice is, which is.
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: Just a minute?
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Alright, Doc, late, sorry, I overslipt your name Shuldy.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: That's right. Police officers would like to talk to you.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: I have to go to work.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: Then, why do you want to go downstairs?
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: That's right, all right, this will be fine. Right here.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: You say your name is Shulte, Arthur William Shulte.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: That's correct.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: Have you been known by any other name? Why do
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: you operate a school called the.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Los Angeles College of Psychotherapeutics and Psychiatry during the past year.
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying anything. Where are you living, mister, I'm
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: not saying anything. Let me see your identification? Hey, my wallet?
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: All right, now you hold it? See ope, my part there.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: I take out the car union card. You'll take it
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: stands So it's a security card. That uh, second thing
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: there behind the cash. Yeah, it's trying to pull a
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: piece of paper there. It's just a bill. What is it, Jim,
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: It's a bill? Millican Hotel, let's go.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: We drove to the Millican Hotel, about six blocks from
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: the theater in the same skid road district. We got
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: the key from the room clerk and went up to
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Shoelta's room looked like any dingy hotel room. A small
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: foot locker sat at the end of the bed on
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: the baggage stand. The two suitcases were over by the
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: closet and sitting on the floor alongside the bureau or
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: two waist high stacks of books.
• 24:55
  Speaker 10: You've got the key to the small drunk I don't
• 24:58
  Speaker 10: have to submit to this. Let's open it up, hoping
• 25:01
  Speaker 10: at yourself. She's the key, all right, yeah, two main coats.
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: I'll check the restroom.
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: Joe, right, that's your property. Doctor. I'm not saying anything.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: Just plo those regular stuff.
• 25:18
  Speaker 11: And girl, how.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: About those suitcase of they you got 'em? What do
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: you got it? How about this? It's a cigar box,
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: it's taped shut. What's inside? Doctor? Nothing? You would be
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: interested in him? I love him in Joe Shoel take.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: Bracelets, rings, matched ear rings that are stolen property reports.
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: These were gifts. People say you took 'em. They're sick.
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: I've done them a lot of good that they know.
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: They thank me this way.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: Well, people I get these things from they know I've
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: helped them. Will you help?
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Marla Hutchins, The story you have just heard was true.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Only the names were changed to protect the innocent.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Arthur Shulty, free on bail pending trial, died of natural
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: causes on June fifteenth in Fresno, California. Leo Donaldson was
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: tried and convicted of grand theft and served a term
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: prescribed by law in the state penitentiary.
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: And now here is our star, Jack Webb.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: When the rookie policeman becomes a full fledged member of
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: the department, one of the.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: First things he becomes aware of is the time warn
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: tradition of the peace officer. He has pride in the
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: many works with pride in his job. Ladies and gentlemen,
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: The Chief of Police of the City of Los Angeles, W. H.
• 26:58
  Speaker 13: Parker, the Los Angeles Police Department awards this citation of
• 27:02
  Speaker 13: merit to Dragnet, or its authentic portrayal of cases from
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• 27:10
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• 27:14
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• 27:19
  Speaker 6: Thank you, Chief Parker, you have.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Just heard Dragnet a series of authentic cases from official files.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: wh Parker Los Angeles Police Department.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Next, We the People three Times Mean Good Times on NBC.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Welcome Back. This is a solid episode that deals with
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: a problem that we still have today with diploma mills
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: churning out unqualified practitioners and offering fraudulent degree. When people
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: who use big words but are not actually qualified, ethical,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: and don't know what they're doing start messing around with
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: people's minds and bodies, it can really do great harm,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: as this episode brings home, and this is yet another
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: example of Dragnet educating the public about a real problem
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: and a lesser known threat to public safety. The whole
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: bit about the movie projectors provides some interesting insight into
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: that profession, which I'm sure has changed in the past
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: seventy five years, as have many others. But it's also
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: probably an area of Jack Webb's particular interest. In Michael
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Hayes's book My Name Is Friday, he mentions that on set,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: when Web was just working as an actor, he spent
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: time in between scenes really questioning the various people who
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: are working on the film and getting a handle on
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: every aspect of the movie making business. To understand it.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: He certainly would have wanted to understand the projection part
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: of the movie business, and it wouldn't surprise me if
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: this came from his own research. The award provided at
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the end was definitely well earned, and it illustrates that
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: a year in to its production, Dragnet already had this
• 29:24
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• 29:29
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• 29:33
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• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Adventures of the Falcon.
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: Where and uh, you're Vicky Terrence.
• 30:25
  Speaker 17: I heard you're a good detective, but that's kind of
• 30:27
  Speaker 17: stretching it.
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: Why I've just been looking at a picture of you
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: and O'Hara nightclubbing together.
• 30:31
  Speaker 17: I didn't know he'd been published.
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: Now you don't read the police because that well, no,
• 30:39
  Speaker 9: why do you want a detective? Well, mister Waring, call
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: me Mike. I'll call you Vicky. I'm not so Haarah.
• 30:45
  Speaker 17: Objects don't worry about Joey. He's a lion in the ring,
• 30:48
  Speaker 17: but a lamb out of it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: If he was a little bull peep, I can believe it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 9: But back to business.
• 30:54
  Speaker 17: Well, Mike, there's a there's a fellow I used to
• 30:56
  Speaker 17: go with in Detroit, Ken Floyd. He's come to New
• 30:59
  Speaker 17: York wants to make trouble between me and Joey. He
• 31:03
  Speaker 17: has some wacky yawn. He's threatened to tell Joey what
• 31:05
  Speaker 17: John hasn't anything to do with what I want.
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: You for think. I found out when people who want
• 31:11
  Speaker 9: to hire me start holding out on me.
• 31:13
  Speaker 17: I'm not holding out, but I'm beginning to wonder if
• 31:16
  Speaker 17: I didn't make a mistake coming here, and I.
• 31:19
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