Latest / Financial Survival Network / Old Credit Card Scams are Returning -- Paul Oster #5797
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- 0:27Welcome, you are listening to the Financial Survival Network. I'm carry let's your
- 0:32host. Well, we got a return visit from our good friend Paul Auster,
- 0:38and we're gonna be talking about new scams. Everything old is eventually new
- 0:45again, as well as we're going to be getting some insight into the new
- 0:50rule that the Current and Men has implemented that will effectively enialize credit worthy home
- 0:59buyers and reward deadbeats just what you don't want to be doing. Paul.
- 1:03Great to have you back. Hey, just tell us again your website before
- 1:07we get started. Sure, great to be back. It's better Qualified dot
- 1:11com. Better Qualified dot com and there's a link to that in the show
- 1:15notes. By the way, if you've got a question for Paul or myself,
- 1:19I knew this is a very popular topic what we discuss. Shoot me
- 1:23an email k l at Kerry Lutz dot com. So, Paul, it's
- 1:29great to have you back and connect with you. You know, you're one
- 1:30of my oldest running guests. We've been doing this almost since the beginning when
- 1:36I started the podcast eleven years ago, and amazing how things have changed.
- 1:42But some things don't change. So these skimmer things are back again. I
- 1:46mean they used to nail me on them at the gas stations in yeah,
- 1:49Miami. Yeah, I mean it's it was worldwide, and it was so
- 1:57easy because all they had to do was get the data off of that magnetic
- 2:00strip and it had everything and it was unencrypted, stagnant data. So once
- 2:07just swiped the skimmer, you know, the identity thieves had everything that they
- 2:12needed. Moving forward, they went to the chip card, which made it
- 2:17much much more difficult. But like everything else, the identity thieves and the
- 2:23bad actors have now upgraded their technologies, so they're back, and they're back
- 2:29both as skimming, which is where they'll take a device and actually you know,
- 2:34it's an overlay that they put on top of an ATM machine, any
- 2:39point of sale device. Gas stations are notoriously bad for this, but the
- 2:46latest technology is what's called a shimmer, and this is where they actually take
- 2:52a very small circuit board and insert it inside of the machine. Much harder
- 2:58to detect it, you know, with just physically looking at a device,
- 3:04because most of the times they pop the thing open, pop it in,
- 3:07and close it back up, and nobody's the wiser until they realize that a
- 3:12lot of their customers data has been stolen. So they're now able to decrypt
- 3:17and get most of the data off of even the chip cards. A lot
- 3:22of times they do it in conjunction with a camera that's installed. They want
- 3:28to see you put in the three digit CVV code, they want to see
- 3:31you put in any other data that they can grab, and they do that
- 3:36via very very small cameras. So between those things, believe it or not,
- 3:42coming out of the pandemic, this type of credit card fraud and identity
- 3:47theft is exploding and on the rise. Unfortunately. Really that's a real shock
- 3:53there that it came back again. I can't believe that. And yep there
- 3:59is a time when and I was getting a new credit card from American Express
- 4:02once a month was unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, so this, you know,
- 4:06this goes back to you know, one of the ways that you can
- 4:11limit your your exposure and your risk. And look if they get and if
- 4:16you if you use a debit card in this situation, they could literally drain
- 4:19your account. Um if you use a credit card, which obviously we don't
- 4:25try and promote because people get themselves in trouble by using the credit card.
- 4:29But at least the credit card, you know, you're not responsible for any
- 4:32fraudulent charges um. And in the case of using a debit card, you're
- 4:39going to get your money back, but typically they will freeze your account during
- 4:44the investigation, which becomes a huge inconvenience, you know, at that point
- 4:51in time. So we're we're we're up against you know, these bad actors
- 4:57and carry One of the things I didn't really grasp was when you look at
- 5:01Silicon Valley and you look at the tens of thousands of very very smart,
- 5:09technologically advanced workers that have been laid off. Unfortunately, when they fall on
- 5:16hard times, they're the ones that are being recruited to perpetrate these crimes and
- 5:23to advance their technologies on their side. So we're in for some rough waters
- 5:28when it comes to identity theft and cybersecurity. It's kind of like that movie
- 5:34Fun with Dick and Jane where they both get laid off from their jobs.
- 5:39I think it was like George Seagull and yeah, Gaine Fada and then they
- 5:43become bank robbers. Not really good at it, but they keep improving and
- 5:47getting better and better at it. Right, absolutely, absolutely, Oh man,
- 5:55will it ever cease? But the good news is I got a Tesla,
- 6:00so I never even use a credit card to fill my car up anymore.
- 6:03Though at least that exposure has been limited in my case. Yeah,
- 6:08well, I don't know about that. The smarter, the smarter, the
- 6:13cars, the smarter. You know, those are now open, uh you
- 6:16know, uh portals. It's like, believe it or not, they were
- 6:20hacking into refrigerators and think that's connected to the internet. You know, they
- 6:28can reverse engineer it and somehow gain access to your to your data. You
- 6:31know. It's always worried that the my refrigerator would turn state's evidence against me.
- 6:39Yep, that's a little world. What a world? Hey, onto
- 6:43other things. So you heard about this proposal that's being implemented today. I
- 6:47believe that will penalize credit worthy borrowers who are seeking a guess, FHA or
- 6:56federally backed mortgage and reward to the dead beats. Yeah, this is you
- 7:01know, I am not a fan of this at all. If they wanted
- 7:05to put forward a program that helped people that had some credit issues, Look,
- 7:12the pandemic was very unfriendly to everybody. But the reality is to do
- 7:17it this way, and they've tried to spend it a thousand different ways.
- 7:23The bottom line here is, on an average let's say three hundred thousand dollars
- 7:29mortgage, somebody with less than stellar credit. Let's say you're at a six
- 7:36twenty, right, and then you take somebody who is above a six to
- 7:41eighty or a seven hundred. The person with the lower credit is going to
- 7:47save close to four thousand dollars. The person with the higher credit is going
- 7:54to wind up paying about four hundred dollars more. So really is going to
- 8:01stay people. This is for only for government backed loans like your your Federal
- 8:07Housing Authority, your FAJ loans. So if you do, if you get
- 8:11a conventional loan, then you're okay. The problem with this also is that
- 8:18the FED, the government, the administration assumed that people who have higher credit
- 8:24scores have a higher net worth value, and that's certainly not the case.
- 8:31Income has nothing to do with your FICO score, and they know that on
- 8:37both sides of the coin here. So to penalize somebody, let's say a
- 8:41person is making minimum wage, they've been exhausting their resources, they have two
- 8:46jobs just to make all the pay their bills on time, and they go
- 8:50to get the first time owned buyer mortgage and they're going to get penalized because
- 8:56they've actually done what they were supposed to do. This is completely bananas to
- 9:01me. It's counterintuitive, and it's probably one of the biggest socialized piece of
- 9:07legislation that's ever been passed, and there wasn't a lot of fanfare out of
- 9:13it. A lot of people are going to find out when they actually apply
- 9:16for a mortgage, yeah, that it should go on the closing statement on
- 9:22the HUD one as a deadbeat tax one hundred percent. Again, you want
- 9:30to put programs to help foster first time homebuyers, to help the underbanked,
- 9:35um uh, you know all these different communities. That's great, put those
- 9:41programs in place, give them incentives, help them out for sure, down
- 9:46down payment assistance programs, grants. All of that is awesome, But how
- 9:52did we get to a point where again, this is not taxing the rich
- 9:56to pay the poor. This is taxing you know, let's call it attack.
- 10:01This is penalizing someone who has a good credit score to help somebody who
- 10:07doesn't have a good credit score. And again you could have people that are
- 10:11are you know, not wealthy either. The same sense is saying socioeconomic status
- 10:16as the person who's kidding rewarded. Um. Again, this just does not
- 10:22make sense to me. I hope they actually repeal it and get rid of
- 10:26it. Yeah. Well, Congress is threatening to override it, and it
- 10:30seems like both parties are in an uproar over this, which is unusual.
- 10:35Yeah, just another example of government overreach. Do you think they'll do You
- 10:41think they'll revoke it or repeal it, override it? I do? I
- 10:43do? You know? The bank, the banking industry as a whole is
- 10:48very very powerful. Um. They're the ones that are there screaming and hollering
- 10:52because it Again, this just does not make sense. Um, So I
- 10:56think it goes back on the table and again massage it, tweak it.
- 11:01If you want to help the people that had fallen on hard times and their
- 11:05credit has suffered because of it. That's a good idea, right again,
- 11:11I would just do it during the pandemic. If you suffered some financial hardships,
- 11:16you were you, you know, you miss some bills, you know,
- 11:20Listen, if you miss one payment, a thirty day late payment comes
- 11:26on to your credit report, it could easily cost you fifty points. Those
- 11:30fifty points could wind up costing you hundreds, if not thousands of dollars,
- 11:35especially when you're talking about a mortgage. So if you want to help those
- 11:37people, great, but you certainly can't do it by penalizing the people again
- 11:43who have exhausted themselves to pay their bills on time. Yeah, it certainly
- 11:48is an outrage. But by any calculation, and it's not a political thing
- 11:52at all, is now reward people who have managed to get through the pandemic
- 12:00and eat their credit high Maybe give them a bonus too, because presumably that
- 12:07these people can get through a pandemic without defaulting on various obligations, they're going
- 12:13to be a more credit worthy risk one hundred percent. They're the ones that
- 12:18will ultimately drive the economy moving forward anyway. Way, So this is,
- 12:24you know, this is just such a negative impact on the people who again
- 12:31we're doing everything that they possibly could to maintain a good credit score, and
- 12:35to penalize them for those efforts. Is it just doesn't make any sense.
- 12:39Yeah, it's just a slap in the face, it really is. It's
- 12:43not a lot of money or a hundred bucks, but hey, you can
- 12:48maybe take the family on a vacation for that or a weekend. Yeah,
- 12:52we can, even if it was even if it was only fifty dollars a
- 12:56month, right, So fifty dollars a month, six hundred dollars a year,
- 13:00you know, on a thirty year mortgage. We're talking a lot,
- 13:03a lot of money. Now, the average person doesn't hold the mortgage for
- 13:07thirty years. I get that, but some people do. And so we
- 13:11just look, we're smart enough to figure out a different path and a different
- 13:16way to help the people. I don't want to say that they deserve it,
- 13:20but we can certainly help the people that need it the most, and
- 13:26those are that's certainly people that have suffered, you know, a negative impact
- 13:30of their credit scores. Your credit score is going to cost or save your
- 13:33money every single month, whether it's financing, whether it's insurance, security,
- 13:41deposits, you know, for cell phones and having utilities turned on. It's
- 13:46going to cost or save you money every single month, relatively speaking. So
- 13:50the people that you know are are below a seven forty, Actually, it's
- 13:56all tiered base pricing. So the minute you drive below of seven forty,
- 14:01you're gonna pay a little bit more. If you're a seven twenty to a
- 14:03seven forty, you're gonna pay a little bit more than someone is a seven
- 14:07forty and above. If you're below is seven twenty. If you're between a
- 14:11seven hundred and seven twenty, you're gonna pay that much more. And it
- 14:15goes right down six to eighty six to sixty eighty six forty and to a
- 14:20point. You know, typically if you're below a five eighty, you're not
- 14:24even going to get approved for the mortgage. And if you do. You
- 14:28know, people are screaming about the interest rates that they see on the TV.
- 14:33Well, those rates are for people with a seven forty or a buck
- 14:37up. If you're a six hundred and the bank has some program that can
- 14:41get you approved, you're probably paying close to nine percent. Yeah, hey,
- 14:46give us one tip, one hack. They can help you raise your
- 14:50credit score without doing a heck of a lot. Yeah, I mean the
- 14:54easiest way possible. I'll give you two. Hey, you have to build
- 14:58new accounts, open positive accounts. There's all sorts of credit builder companies out
- 15:03there. One is called self Excellent Company. The results are great, it
- 15:07won't cost you a lot of money to do it. And then the other
- 15:11thing is to pay down that credit card debt because that's, you know,
- 15:13the second biggest score factor that impacts your scores. So figure out a way
- 15:18to get out of credit card debt. We say it all the time,
- 15:22But add new positive accounts to your credit report and you can do that even
- 15:28if you have lower scores. Credit builder accounts you can get approved, even
- 15:33if you have a lower credit score. Secured credit cards you can get approved
- 15:37even if you have a lower credit square. So it's just a numbers game.
- 15:41You have to you have to skew it in the other direction. You
- 15:43have to have more open positive accounts than you do negative accounts. All right,
- 15:48Well, we appreciate you coming on Paul. As always, Hey find
- 15:54Pulse site, check them out on a better qualified dot com and the Hey
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- 16:10any questions, comments, whatever for Paul myself, shoot me an email k
- 16:15l at Arry Lutz dot com. Paul, great catching up with you.
- 16:18We'll talk to you again real soon. Thanks so much, Carrie. Bye
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