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Drunken Peasants Fan Interviews Brett Keane ‪@aaronmcbryer4362‬ ‪@SmokeySaintPolemics‬ ‪@lovesicklo2538‬ · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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nation under God. Right.
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Fake ngos. I think that needs to be a
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number of arrests and that regardless well because these
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are, these are fake Charities. Where mostly Democrats almost
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all its. I don't want to play this
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sometimes a little bit of a republican in there because they
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sometimes throw the Republicans a bone to say, hey, be quiet
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about this. So it's it's that's that's where
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you start getting the unified party thing going on.
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But it is overwhelmingly to Democrats and they give these
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billions of dollars to ngos run by democrats that then go
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through a whole network of additional and Joseph giant
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money laundering scheme. Um, really, at this point, I
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think the word NGO and money laundering are almost
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Oh, when Jacob makes a joke, that's bulshit, dude.
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Yeah. Fuck Jake.
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He's not allowed to make jokes. Only me, and honest, red, and
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Billy, the fridge with the only ones allowed to make fucking
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jokes on the internet. We're allowed to make fun of
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mentally ill. People on the internet and this
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is the point fancy had relationships with a minor.
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Now, I don't know whether this is true or not.
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If it's true, then I think it would be wise to stop it.
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If it's not true then I don't then I would like to hear it so
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that everybody knows that. But the thing is, I don't really
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see why this is a problem. So first I want to know why you
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changed, that's why. But first of all what what fancy
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I know this is kind of a personal question, but is it
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true? Is it were there was there and
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it's any of what they just said? Is there any truth to it?
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Yeah. Yeah, quite a while ago and
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they're clearly. Okay, so there's this back up.
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We have so glad there. There is no light.
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Okay, so there's no relationship with you between a minor now,
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Okay, there's okay, okay. Where I was going to be up to
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school. Me living is already public
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information. I know because I've told people
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but I didn't expect Where I'm gonna go to university being
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posted ever because I didn't expect my bio to be public and
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also I know the validity of the screenshots that you've posted
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because I took them, I was the one that shared those, I was the
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one that took it because, you know, guess what?
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You know, I wasn't that friendly with Damon three years ago and I
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just not that friendly. Now, is there anything in my
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video? That's inaccurate that I Don't
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anything like that? I mean,
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other girls I can't verify. That's true because I have
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talked to like Damon consistently.
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Yeah. So I can't verify if any like
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he's done this other girl's in like the recent history of like
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a few months. But I know he did not talk to me
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and Harley and died if you remember who she is, I was the
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original like everyone knows that I've been When when DP was
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still DP, I was a part of like, the DP Wiki sentence.
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Yeah, like I'm 16. So I was in like, maybe the 8th
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grade at the time. She even had the screenshot of
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me saying that I was 16, because that's the truth.
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That's how old I was at the time.
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Everyone already that. I was a minor, like, that's
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public information. Thanks for watching to the end
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so, Hello, ladies and gentlemen, my
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name is Brett King from God TV radio.
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Make sure you check out my free music on Spotify as well as my
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radio station here today. We've got Aaron, he appears to
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be sideways. I don't know why, sorry about
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that. My phone charging.
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Hear me? Yes, I can.
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All right, in Aaron to come in and jam out on some guitar with
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me and he also has some interview questions that he
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wants to ask. You all know, I've been
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interviewed 100 times, so hopefully he's got some new
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creative imaginative questions for me.
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I always loved answering some some I promise not to be the
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same old schlock, and I'm not gonna troll you.
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I know people like to do that. I don't have a dog in any fight
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and I'm just like I sort of have a create just a general,
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curiosity about the world and I've interviewed TJ before, you
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know, I mean like I've interviewed a Lot of people.
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Well I was a journalist and like survivors of the Columbine
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shooting I'm just a curious person.
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Well, you come with DJ Curt? Yeah.
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Yeah, I've actually interviewed him as well as Paul's egos as
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well, too. Even, after all the drama and
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all that, that was one of the stipulations of me going on
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their show. Besides just getting paid.
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It was good. It was a calm relaxed interview
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and I didn't throw anything at them that would, you know, cause
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them any compromise of their egos or anything like that.
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So it was good. If you want to see, those are up
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on my radio and I think people copy that put it up on YouTube
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because he enjoyed it. Sure.
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So, what do you want to do first?
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You want to jam out for us or do you want to do questions first?
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Ah, I think the question segment would be a little longer just
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because I feel like you might want to go in depth with some of
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those and I'd want to hear you speak.
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So I can just like jam a little bit.
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I learned a Zeppelin song last night, if you want to hear that.
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All right. Let me put you up in the main
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screen here. There we go.
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Remember the link is out there. If anyone wants to join, I will
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say, I cannot sing and I can't sing and play.
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I'm just a guitar player. So I'm not gonna sing like
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Robert Plant or anything, you know?
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So good, it's all good. You know, Candy Store Rock the
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Led Zeppelin. Yeah.
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this is kind of a bridge version because I mean there's a solo
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and all that and you know But would you like to tell people
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where your YouTube channel is? So they can subscribe to you.
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It's just my name, Aaron McBrayer.
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It's pretty simple. I keep things simple online.
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I don't mind sharing my name or anything like that.
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I have nothing to hide. Its not much.
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I mean, the first video on there is kind of embarrassing.
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I made it a long time ago, it's super stupid.
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It's just me smoking weed, and being a dumbass, but like, the
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rest of it's like just kind of poor quality.
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And I'm not gonna lie like, my camera sucks but like it's just
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like record collection stuff and messing around on my guitar and
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whatnot. Um, If you don't mind I actually
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want to ask like if you're not a cool with this, it's cool.
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But like are you cool? Like Marilyn Manson?
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Yeah. I like some of this songs.
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I I like the interviews that he does too.
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I consider him a very intelligent person.
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He kind of reminds me of a modern day.
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Alice Cooper, exactly. I've met Alice Cooper.
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He's a great guy. He like Alice Cooper, I love
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that. Let me play.
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Alice Cooper song. One second.
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We got somebody backstage. I gotta make sure that they're
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they're not an animal. Oh sure.
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Hold on, let me put something up on the screen just to make sure
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this is the actual Json. Okay.
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Hello. Yes.
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Thank you. Oh boy, why?
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That was nice. Yeah.
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People do that, man. They'll do that.
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Hey guys, if you want to come in and yell try asshole or cont or
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something like that, but don't know.
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Right? Come on, you know, that's that's
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cheap, you know. Yeah, what else you got for me?
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Oh, I actually, um, the reason I was about Manson's because I
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know how to play the last day on Earth, but I mentioned Alice
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Cooper. I actually just recently learned
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one of my favorite Alice, Cooper songs Ballad of Dwight Fry.
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I can do that one, I think. That was a, I mean, they're both
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great songs about. I think that one's a little
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better in my opinion and see Like I said, kind of just say
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what? I said pretty cool man.
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There's somebody backstage. A if that was the real tpr he's
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a part of my management team he would have the ability to host
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himself onto the screen. So if you're really deep you are
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then I think that you'd be able to get up there on your own.
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So I I know a troll is stolen my friend's Avatar, so I can get up
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here and screaming and word. Oh dude, I know people do that
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because I actually just the other day.
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I know, king cobra JFS just passed away, and I tried to find
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his original Facebook just so I can give his dad, you know, just
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leave a nice comment and on Facebook, there are a million
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king cobra JFS or you know, Joshua Saunders.
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Like they've just copied and pasted his.
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It's hard to tell who's who anymore, you know.
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Yeah, it's pretty rough pretty well.
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Functioning it's pretty, pretty sad, especially considering what
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happened? What do you say?
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We do a few questions and play more songs than a few questions
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play another song. Yeah, that's that's cool.
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Yeah. I like I was just gonna say
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that's just an Abridged version of Ballad of Dwight Fry by Alice
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Cooper just because, you know, there's all these electric parts
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and the guitar solo. So I just kept it simple.
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It sounds good, man. I'm glad you came in to jam.
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That's awesome. Thank you.
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I appreciate you. Having me.
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So yeah, dude. I I think it's a pretty cool
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that you've been around as long as you have and the same.
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I would say the same to TJ Nepal.
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They've been around a long time. Whatever differences, you may
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have, you know, it's like you guys, I'll lasted many popular
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YouTubers who have come and gone and To me, like I know the piece
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things people say about you and the things people say about TJ
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or Paul, whatever may or may not be true.
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It's whatever. I have no dog in the fight, you
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know, I'm, I was a DP fan back in the day.
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I'm still dff fan, but I'm not, I think they're hilarious.
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I'll just like, comedy. I think you get, you know, I
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think TJ's funny guy. Paul, and I have had our
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differences, but I just tried to be respectful of everybody, you
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know? I just tried to treat people
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like people and so these questions are not, you know, a
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gotcha or weird shit or anything like that.
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To make you uncomfortable. Um, First off, I think.
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I think a good place to start is like when you were first, when
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you first uploaded your videos onto YouTube, you are an atheist
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YouTuber and then obviously became Christian.
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He found God and became Christian.
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Um, I'm personally I'm I I know like you how you feel about
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atheists that you have a certain you know, they act a certain way
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and they you know, they certain a certain group of them, not all
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of them. I actually have a really good
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friend that I was talking to just yesterday on a live show,
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called knock the atheist. He originally was known as
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Raging atheist and I got a good atheist Friend by the name of
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Adam Moore, who actually was one of the guests that I invited on
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the first drunken peasants episode.
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Oh, Wow, that's cool. That's really.
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That's really cool. Yeah.
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Like like I said, like I I am an atheist I suppose, but I don't
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have I don't approach it for me, sort of like emotional like oh
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God's an asshole sort of thing or anything like that.
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It's just my own conclusion. I mean, like, I think a theology
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is interesting and I think culturally religion, I mean,
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it's kind of the connection of History, right?
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Like, you have it doesn't matter if it's Christianity or the
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ancient Pagan religions or Judaism.
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It's like history is tied with tied with the religion and I'm a
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history buff. So, you know, it's all I try to
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look at it from an unbiased sort of ads, you know, I'm gonna I'm
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an observer of the world so to speak.
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So the first question I'd like to ask, you is how you came to?
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How did you, what inspired you to start YouTube, like, as as an
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atheist or otherwise like, what inspired you to make videos?
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Well hold on one second. If that's the real sabisky you
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gonna need to show your camera. I know he's capable of running a
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webcam. I don't believe that's the real
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guy. Oh yeah, I don't think deeper
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streaming right now. As far as I know.
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Yeah, so it's probably a troll. So what was the motivation?
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Well, I used to hang out in AOL as well as Yahoo chat and they
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just said, come up with the technology for voice chat.
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So I would go into the Christian rooms and I'd also hang out, an
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atheist rooms, all kinds of different stuff.
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And at the time, unfortunately, I was kind of house written
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because my daughter had just come home from the hospital.
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And she had been born with meningitis, which resulted in
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hydrocephalus. She basically had to wear Sean
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needed to be taken care of. Well, while I was hanging out in
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the chat and I would talk to people.
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A lot of people thought, I had a great voice and they said, hey
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Brian, you should try doing YouTube videos.
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So I went over to YouTube, I looked around and I noticed it
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was pretty much just cat videos and and stupid shit people just
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showing off like early days. Yeah.
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Before any any drama trolls means any of that kind of stuff.
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Oh yeah. I went back to my buddies and I
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said, what the hell you want me on there?
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For there's nobody talkin. There's a couple Christians who
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make videos, but that's about it.
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There wasn't? I, I couldn't find hardly any
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atheist. Here was a couple pre-recorded
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videos of Chris for headphones and Sam Harris, and Richard
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Dawkins, but nothing really going on.
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So I I went back and took me a moment, but people kept saying
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breakfast, do it, just do it. So I didn't, you gotta I'm being
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honest with I really didn't care at first, I just didn't give a
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shit. I just wanted to hang out with
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people and talk and they told me if you like to socialize and get
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up there and and make a video. So I went ahead and find and my
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first video I remembered it was called God versus science where
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I spoke all positively about science and all this.
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And and basically took a shet on the concept of God and religion
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and all this, I wasn't anti-theist but I had spent a
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lot of time in a children's hospital and I know a lot of
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kids that were sick and concluding my own daughter with
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her issues. So I was pissy, I was snarky.
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I had an attitude problem and I was a bit rough.
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Well, I after uploading the video, I walked away about a
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month later. I came back and I had over 5,000
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subscribers on one single video, and I was featured on the front
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of YouTube. So it's like, whoa.
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What's going on? I had people saying, right?
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You're awesome, because I want to under my real name, right?
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King, I didn't go under any kind of Monica.
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So that made me go. Oh wow, there's people actually
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out there listening. So I I remained So that's that's
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what inspired you. That's really cool.
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I mean like I could see like, I guess With me, like as far as
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atheism was concerned. I think, you know, sure I went
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through some traumatic stuff when I was younger, but that
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would I, never told, I always made a point to tell people.
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That's not why I don't believe in God or anything like that.
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I'm not like, oh God. Did this to me, blah, blah.
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I mean, I know people who are like that.
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And know I've met Satanist who were like that, and I'm just
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like, I just don't have that sort of reactionary nature about
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myself. Like I just came to my own
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conclusion, you know, I've always been sort of almost
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autistically calculated science oriented person or not.
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I don't know how to put it, but yeah, just I've always found it
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interesting. Like, I've tried I've gone to
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church before I've actually used a.
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I actually used to work for a church up in Tennessee.
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I even played guitar for them, and they were very nice people.
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I had nothing against them. They treated.
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They knew I was an atheist and they had no problems with me,
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right? And so like, what, what led to
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that wasn't? The, the that wasn't the only
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inspiration. I mean, after you, you read all
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the comments and all that and you see people saying they
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identify and relate with you. I'd always had this thing in the
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back of my mind, because one of the big things, one of the
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dreams was to become a musician, one day and working with my
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brother and do some stuff like that.
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And when I realized wait a minute, I could have like I hate
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to use the word but a platform or Podium to be able to impact
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the world. And that my words could actually
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be heard that I could actually do something positive and good,
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because I had a lot of non-believers who were like,
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wow, this is just really powerful sincere authentic.
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So I felt like if I continue to be able to actually help out
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non-believers and I actually thought this is crazy but I
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actually thought like I could help out religious people
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because at the time I thought their brain had been poisoned, I
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believe they were being taken advantage of.
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So I wanted to help them as well as non-believers and make a
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connection. Wait a second.
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Smoky says, hey Brett, I would join.
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But I'm heading to get my wife. Well Smokey, if you find the
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time later, I'd love to have your brother, it's always a
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pleasure and we had a great show yesterday.
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Thank you for allowing us to get that to go.
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All right. Any you said, he had another
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question? Or did you want to know more
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about that? I could Babylon all day.
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It's all right. Actually, just expand on that a
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little bit. I was just gonna say, actually I
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wanted to be a musician. I was younger too.
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I was inspired by Randi Rhodes from Osborne and Quiet, Riot to
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play guitar and I've always wanted to be like Eddie Van
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Halen or Randi Rhodes or something like that, when I was
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younger, and as far as like, what you're talking about,
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you're you mentioned, how you felt, sorry, you felt bad for
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religious people, or you felt like you could help them that
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their brains were poisoned. I did go through a phase like
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that where I did think like that.
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But like, I think over the years, especially with being a
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journalist, I met, you know, Islamic people Jewish people
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Christian people all across the Spectrum and it's like they're
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they're a lot of just good people that just believe what
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they believe and you know, it's sometimes it helps them
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sometimes they may be, gives them a sense of community.
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So I mean I sort of eased up on and I was younger and angry or
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whatever but you know, but yeah um What about yeah.
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What should you to finding God? Well, one of the things was that
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originally whenever I had already before, I became an
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atheist. I actually grew up as a child
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and Christianity. I went to many different
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churches. I unfortunately my mother had
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gotten sick and could not take care of me and my brother
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anymore. So we ended up with my
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grandmother but she died from cancer and then I went from
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Foster Care to foster care about it.
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Yeah so I was it was really rough but what happened was I
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ended up experiencing a lot of different versions of churches
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and it was crazy for me, just like it would be for anybody to
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hear one type of message and then go to a different
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denomination in here. This and this and this and this
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and this and it just fucked my entire head up.
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I didn't know what I what was going on when you're a kid, what
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more difficult to consume and absorb all that information.
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And I just felt like it was, how do I put it solid Barth
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theology? If that makes sense.
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You ever heard that? I saw a lot of sense, I know
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you're talking about, Well, so people are picking and shoes.
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Alright. Alright, so after all that, and
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then I ended up meeting my future wife and all that I end
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up having my son, and then later on having the daughter and all
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that and then with the the tragedy of the issue, it wasn't
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just within the same year that my daughter was still in the
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womb of my wife, my mother unfortunately died.
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So I'm like damn my mother's never going to be able to see my
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my kid, my you know, my mother's never gonna get to see my
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daughter and then when she's born, she was sick.
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So that caused me to question God.
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It caused me to go, why God plus, she had to share a
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hospital room with another child that had leukemia.
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It was just killing me to watch the parents praying and going
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God, please help. Unfortunately, that child not
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make it, however, my daughter did.
31:36
And she's doing great today. She's still alive, the doctors
31:40
did not think she would make it, but she's no, 20 years old.
31:44
And she made her High School mainstream classes, no learning
31:47
disabilities, and she's beautiful.
31:48
So that's one of my experiences, right?
31:51
I think God was looking out for me.
31:54
Well, that's a I think that's that's actually a beautiful
31:57
story. Like, I know, you know, I'm an
31:59
atheist and stuff I think that's actually Right.
32:02
That's pretty touching because I never knew that about you.
32:05
You know, whenever back in the DP days, I'd go talk about you
32:10
or even sometimes during a deep fat fried podcasts, they would
32:14
apologize. TJ would talk about you.
32:16
They never brought any of that up, or I don't know if they knew
32:20
But it's like, wow, you know, TJ Kirk knew a long time ago.
32:25
This was a really sad event between me and TJ Kirk, but he,
32:30
unfortunately, when I got the YouTube I was still fresh over
32:34
losing my mother and all. So going through taking care of
32:37
my daughter with her condition, he ends up making a, he ended up
32:41
making a video to me that's still on his amazing archivist
32:44
Channel. I think is what it's called.
32:46
Oh, he says, why is Brett Keane? Always crying about his mother
32:50
get over it kind of shut and I'm like, what?
32:53
And then about a couple months later, he announces and he's in
32:57
tears about how his father died. And I'm really, I'm really,
33:02
really burned me because I lost my mother.
33:05
And now you're up there sobbing like like a fucking ass hole, me
33:09
and him were friends, but you just don't do that.
33:12
The people whether they're atheist or religious, you don't,
33:15
you know, what make fun of their their loss of apparent.
33:19
Goodness gracious. I can say, yeah.
33:22
I mean. I think even TJ, I periodically
33:26
shoot the shit with TJ and his wife, Chelsea, you know, they're
33:30
pretty friendly with me and I cannot, I think TJ.
33:34
Now he's a 40 year old man. I think he's a different, a
33:38
different person than he used to be.
33:39
I don't, I think that TJ, that did that, I know he's still who
33:44
he is, but like, I think younger TJ making that video.
33:49
I don't think he would make that now, you know, I mean, I feel
33:52
like he's a little more mature than that.
33:54
Now, he's still himself. I would love to.
33:56
I would love to believe that, but he, he made a him and up
34:01
Halsey made a video on a channel called.
34:03
And I don't mind saying what it is.
34:04
Onion nuggets, where they made fun of my grandmother, the
34:09
titles, even write, keen's, grandmother riddled with cancer,
34:12
so that I watch Deep Fat fried and onion nuggets.
34:16
I didn't even see that when you get an opportunity, just type in
34:19
Deep Fat fried right, King little with cancer and all this
34:24
and you see it. I could get you a link later if
34:26
that's something you're interested in.
34:28
But this isn't a thing where it's like, oh, that motherfuker.
34:32
I got to get in kind of thing if you ever wanted to drop into the
34:37
room and and have a conversation with me and work things out, I'd
34:41
be more than happy to unfortunately, people like Ben
34:45
just continued to use my streams and talk shit about Up my
34:49
friends and all that, that's why this continues.
34:51
I'd be more than happy to turn over a new Leaf, go ahead.
34:54
I'll actually be a little honest with you about drunken peasants
34:56
and you know Ben's cool. I'd never had any problems with
35:00
him personally and I know you have but just like I said, I
35:03
don't have a dog in the fight. He's always been real nice to
35:05
me, but I mean, sometimes I would watch the stuff about
35:09
Cobra, but he passed away. And to be honest with you, I get
35:13
kind of tired of like I get paid.
35:16
I get making fun of Jared Genesis and all that.
35:19
But like I was sort of missed the old platform where they had
35:23
guests on and it was like they would make fun of the news or
35:27
look at me memes or I don't know.
35:29
It's seemed like more of a party environment in the past and and
35:32
I sort of gravitated more towards Deep Fat fried.
35:37
Because they're seems to be more variety there.
35:39
Like a drunken peasants kind of does turn into a local show and
35:45
It gets a little old admit. I mean, I still like man.
35:48
I don't mean to, you know, disparage or anything.
35:50
I'm just saying like just personally sometimes it gets old
35:54
Well yeah, of course the the true Talent of the original
35:59
dungeon peasants was the Amazing Atheist, The Amazing Atheist
36:02
whether I dislike some of the Antics that he's done, I've
36:07
never insulted his Charisma or his ability, I know that he has.
36:11
He has this desire to watch the news and see what's going on in
36:15
the world and actually talked about it.
36:17
That's not Ben's thing though. Then Ben's going for the low
36:21
fruit? Is where TJ's actually trying
36:23
to, how shall I say analyze articles and what's happening in
36:28
the world and things that are actually important?
36:30
So I give him credit for that. Just because you don't like
36:33
somebody doesn't mean you got to like throw shit in their face
36:36
about what are positive that The same way.
36:41
Yeah, I think that's good attitude to have because um, you
36:44
know, I try to be like that because there are people, I know
36:46
personally who I don't get along with but they're amazing
36:49
musicians or they're really funny.
36:50
And I mean like this person's really good what they do.
36:52
I just don't get along with them.
36:53
I can, I try to set my ego aside so to speak.
36:57
Um, Teaching. Yeah, I've been a fan of the
37:02
amazing atheists for probably about 15, 16 years now.
37:06
He's got me. So through some pretty tough
37:08
times. I've always found him, funny,
37:10
and like insightful and like I think his newer videos are
37:15
really interesting where he's really like breaking down.
37:18
I guess like, Parts of society finds odd or whatever parts of
37:23
like human behavior. He finds interesting but Yeah.
37:29
I feel like when TJ Paul and Scotty left the show, I tried to
37:33
watch it. And I like Billy the fridge, I
37:35
think he's funny but like I just it didn't feel the same and it
37:39
became like a low-cal show. And so I lost interest over
37:41
time. So you and TJ, you you can I can
37:49
I mention them something about Billy the fridge real quick,
37:51
okay? Billy quite a few times over and
37:55
Discord and all. So I was horned his show like
37:58
twice one on his actual Channel. Billy, the fridge, I don't know
38:02
if he still got that same one and he's also been on my show on
38:06
this it for him. It's never been.
38:07
Oh, you've got less subscribers reviews, he was always cool.
38:11
And shutting that way, unfortunately, Billy when he got
38:16
hooked up with Ben and started doing the ship with pimp monk X,
38:19
he threw some fucking slide at me and some shade and
38:23
everything. And I was like, yeah, whatever
38:24
he didn't hit me as hard as like, what Ben tries to he
38:28
doesn't get personal, but I was like a fucking who cares?
38:31
I'll still play video games with him and talk and all that, I
38:35
think. So, I think Billy's in for the
38:37
comedy, I think he's in for the content in the comedy, so to
38:40
speak. He he's more just, just trying
38:42
to refine Riff on whatever bins. Looking up, you know.
38:46
I think Billy and I always got along too because I spoke
38:50
positively. I've been I said that he said
38:52
take his his rap music somewhere, I believe that he had
38:56
licks. I try to a while back to see, if
38:59
he'd be willing to lay down some vocals and some beets and all
39:02
that shit. And he said, hey man, he sent
39:04
some beats over. I did but I guess that he got
39:07
too busy. He's got like hundreds of
39:08
thousands people watching. Oh he's been doing that.
39:11
He I don't know about right now but while back he was working
39:15
with local Life podcast doing the fat camping.
39:19
You've seen that. Haven't seen all of it.
39:22
Usually how this works is, somebody will come to me there
39:26
to be a DP fan or someone who's a friend of mine, say, hey,
39:30
guess what? They were talking about today
39:31
and I said, oh, okay, sure. And was the anything important I
39:35
should have dressed and sometimes it would sometimes
39:38
what? And I go over.
39:41
I'd watch for a few minutes, get bored after a while and they
39:44
either got a video or the Yeah. I mean like that's kind of a GPS
39:48
is for me now. Like I'll be honest with you,
39:51
some of the Jared Genesis stuff is pretty funny because he is
39:54
kind of odd guy but like whenever it's like after a while
39:59
and you can take this as a compliment if you want or
40:02
whatever but like even when TJ and them were still on DP
40:06
sometimes Almost at the breaking stuff.
40:09
Although the stuff about you it did sometimes I was sort of like
40:14
can we move on? Can we, you know, talk about
40:17
somebody else or something else? That's like like it just kind of
40:21
seemed odd that we're getting so deep into some Vice personal
40:24
life, who, you know, None of us really knew that well compared
40:28
to them. It seemed like a personal thing
40:30
for them and sometimes it, I know people like it, but like,
40:34
personally, I got bored by some of the quote unquote, breaking
40:38
segments. Some because it felt repetitive,
40:41
it could feel repetitive or it could feel like okay, this is
40:44
just kind of silly or whatever, you know what I mean.
40:47
What was definitely repetitive for me.
40:49
I could, I felt like I was living in Groundhogs Day.
40:53
Every time I did a live show, somebody would come in and I've
40:58
had a lot of people who said that were from DP who wanted to
41:01
interview me and stuff, not like what you're doing right now but
41:04
they they act like they wanted to do something that would be my
41:08
buddy and shut. So what I would do is I would
41:11
say sure I'll go ahead and answer your questions and talk
41:13
to you. So we get into it and then when
41:16
we got to a question they didn't like they'd go.
41:19
Hey Brett. Can I ask you something?
41:20
I'd say what I say would it be okay if I you know, fuck your
41:24
mouth or something or call me the end where so it's like wow,
41:27
that's that's beautiful. That's near being told and he
41:31
just gonna fucking drop and do something like that, that's
41:34
crazy. So, there you go.
41:37
I mean, it is what it is. So, hopefully, my big thing on
41:42
YouTube is always been socializing out with people make
41:45
Buds and I don't want to do The Grudges, but it is what it is.
41:48
If somebody makes a about 10 videos for a week about, you
41:52
wouldn't you respond eventually? Yeah, of course I would.
41:56
I think about what this is a real Smoky?
41:59
Let's hold on a second. Is this a real Smoky?
42:02
Yep, sure is. All right.
42:05
Gotta make sure they're stealing our avatars there fella?
42:08
Yeah, I know I thought popping for a few minutes.
42:11
I think that me and the missus are figuring out dinner.
42:12
So I figured popping say hi. All right, I put you.
42:17
Hey, smoking. My name's Aaron.
42:18
How you doing, brother? Right?
42:19
How you doing, man? Good to see you doing good.
42:22
Just jamming out and just talking to Brad.
42:24
I'm doing a little interview right now and yeah, just I love
42:29
the outfit. He kind of look like Mac from
42:31
Sunny. Like I love it shows too.
42:39
Totally. I I kind of like it too, because
42:43
like, I have a friend. He's a, he's actually lives in
42:46
the United States as a army war veteran.
42:48
But like he's from Ukraine originally and he said all the
42:51
slobs back in east Europe, they dressed like this.
42:53
Yeah, yeah, I know. That's awesome.
42:56
I love it. I saw it's like, my little
43:00
Tribute to my buddy. Cool.
43:03
Sweet man. Though.
43:04
It's awesome. I love it.
43:05
It's cool. It's a good look.
43:06
Thank you. And it's okay.
43:11
I don't know if you've been able to hear what's going on but he's
43:14
a guy who from time to time watches Deep Fat fried and
43:17
drunken peasants and interviewing me on some
43:22
questions and all that can't be right because he's a decent
43:24
person. We must have something wrong
43:26
here. You know what's going on now?
43:31
He seems cool. He definitely, he's definitely
43:33
not the usual reptiles we deal with, so that's A weird way to
43:46
think you're owning someone to reveal yourself.
43:49
So really weird flexible someone else.
43:54
Hey man. You know I'm Gonna Get You good.
43:57
I'm gonna disparage an entire community of people that are
44:00
even remote like I gotta ask what if you think about
44:07
yesterday we had demon on and knocked and everything like that
44:11
and it was like every five minutes we were getting an
44:13
atheist and screaming the end where the man that's bigger than
44:17
it. Yeah yeah that's pretty that's
44:20
pretty rough painful. It's to me.
44:22
Like if you have like, look, I have a friend.
44:25
I had a friend when I lived in New York.
44:26
His name was Ali. He was from Somalia and he black
44:31
is coal and a. Yes, he was an atheist.
44:33
He was he grew up around Islam. He hated he grew to hate it.
44:36
He that turned him into an atheist, but he was such a nice
44:39
person. And when the BLM marshes were
44:42
going on through Niagara Falls, he wasn't sure what was going
44:45
on. He was new to the country and
44:46
then you had these and look politically, I'm not, you know,
44:51
whatever, but like he got called an Uncle Tom and, you know, C,
44:57
o, o, n by like because he didn't he didn't support him
45:03
because he didn't understand it. He was just trying to We were
45:06
just standing on the sidewalk, it's smoking cigarettes and just
45:09
talking because we were getting off work and people were like,
45:13
hey, you're an Uncle Tom and all this stuff cuz he won got a
45:16
march with him because he was like, I don't know, you people.
45:19
Yeah, the only the only diversity they seem to not
45:22
prioritize is intellectual or mental diversity.
45:25
Oddly enough that's all about simply aligning with the same
45:28
ideology and religious mindset. Well, you know, adopting and
45:33
prioritizing that you have the same mind with different
45:35
different bodily genetics, which I find very bizarre.
45:39
It's very weird way to hyperfixate on people's, you
45:42
know, characteristics and aren't really germane to their nature
45:46
or character you know. As as the idea of diversity,
45:50
really the important diversity to me is diversity of thought
45:53
opinion, view culture mindset. I believe that's the kind of
45:57
diversity that matters to me. If everyone's an argument I
46:01
would have for a lot of those people because a lot like I'm
46:02
gonna put the support, I'm not the most right wing guy in the
46:05
world. I'm also not the most left wing
46:06
guy in the world. The way up, put it is like to
46:08
me, diversity to me is like The what they some of those people
46:14
seem to want people to think the same and dress.
46:17
The same act, the same behave, the same speak, the same, and to
46:21
me, what's on diversity? Diversity is like you, you go to
46:24
Argentina. Are you go to China, or you go
46:28
to Japan, or we go to Cuba, you're going to experience
46:31
different people with different mindsets and different ways of
46:35
thinking different cultures, like that's diversity, like in
46:39
America, but makes us great in this country is like, we have so
46:42
many people who, like, you know, we had our country produce Elvis
46:49
Presley and we produce Kurt Cobain Pete, two people who
46:52
probably would have nothing to do with each other or they had
46:56
nothing in common so to speak. But We?
47:00
They're both great, you know, it's like you can look at them
47:02
both and be like, yeah, they were amazing.
47:03
They were amazing musicians and songwriters and like, they Meant
47:07
a lot to a lot of people and it's like, but they were both
47:09
completely different. They were both different types
47:11
of musicians, different ways of thinking, it's like, but that
47:13
was that's what makes us great to me.
47:16
Why I think that diversity is different than by definition
47:20
when it comes to liberals. I think they're definition of
47:24
it. Is the same as what.
47:25
You'd get from a free gracer or no SAS person.
47:28
It's uh, yeah. We'll love you and we'll save
47:31
you and take you to heaven as long as you agree with
47:33
everything we say that's that's their view.
47:35
It has nothing to do with being open-minded to other cultures
47:39
and all this. I mean, let's be honest.
47:41
It's really about boats and politics people, a lot of them.
47:45
Yeah. I I actually have some weird
47:47
experience myself like, this will actually be a great example
47:50
for myself when I was a teenager probably from 13 to About 18 19.
47:59
I'm not going to say that I was a Neo-Nazi, but I was around
48:04
older people who You know. Ran in those circles and I they
48:11
were intimidating and but they were the only people I had
48:13
anything in common with they were looking to skateboarding
48:15
and Maryland Manson and Ozzy. And and you know, It, they were
48:21
the heavy metal kids that they're only people.
48:24
I could relate to it at my school, you know, and I fell
48:27
into that crowd, and I didn't really understanding of that
48:30
Nazi stuff at the time and they, they sort of filled my head with
48:33
it. And they tried to, you know, do
48:35
some sort of mental gymnastics to convince me of this or that
48:39
and and whenever I came out of that stuff, I got out of school
48:44
and I just kind of went out in the world and I thought well,
48:47
man, I'm not really like that. You know, I Love Jimi, Hendrix.
48:50
I love, I love Seinfeld. I I don't hate these people.
48:54
And so I love David Lee Roth. I don't have anything against
48:57
you, Jewish people, or black people, or gay people or
49:00
anything and like, Um I tried to join like I had some like
49:05
residual Trauma from some of the stuff that I've seen some of
49:08
those guys do. Because I didn't do anything bad
49:12
myself but like I was around some bad stuff.
49:14
And I joined this, there's this group called life after hate and
49:18
was the main guy in it. He used to be a real deal
49:21
Neo-Nazi. Like he did, I think he like, I
49:24
don't think he killed anybody, but he did some violent shit.
49:26
And he organized this group called life after hate, I tried
49:30
to join them and say, hey, look, I was a part of this blah blah
49:33
and I need people to talk to nobody can really relate to like
49:37
being like a quote unquote, former Neo-Nazi, or whatever.
49:42
It's hard. For some people to relate to
49:43
that to I can't talk to anybody and so they um they're like yeah
49:49
yeah come on a group. We have a big thing and it's
49:51
this big organized thing they do tag talks, they like have
49:53
meetings. It's a big organized program but
49:57
they treated me like the way they treated me.
49:59
They were former Nazis and former Islamic extremists,
50:02
former KKK members of even former communists. and, but the
50:07
way I was treated like, I don't know, because I had a rise and
50:12
some humor and, you know, South Park, and I, I love black metal
50:17
music and, you know, Birds on some of my favorite bands.
50:20
Like, I've already Baker news, I've got an interview him in the
50:22
past, like, he, he sent me t-shirts and stuff and because,
50:26
um, Of certain things. They're like, you can't be like
50:30
this, you can't listen to this or what's wrong with you.
50:33
But like they are turned around and just act like the snobbiest
50:37
people. They were so self-righteous and
50:40
they were just so like you couldn't just sit down and have
50:43
a conversation with them. It's like they had to like pat
50:45
their backs as hard as I could any at every turn.
50:48
Does that make sense? Why I haven't ever been
50:53
associated with, not these or anything like that.
50:55
I have heard some on YouTube before in the past and there was
50:59
some big thing about that and I do see her on Twitter, there's a
51:02
lot of Jew hate and going on, and that's there.
51:04
And obviously, you're on a daily basis.
51:07
I get to hear what critical free thinkers.
51:10
Think about black people, every time I do a show, right?
51:12
Yeah, he really got the truth, it's just, I think what I'm
51:19
trying to say, and I'm sorry for being so long winded with this.
51:21
This is so where you're, you're guests.
51:24
When you're a guest on my show, you can talk about what you
51:26
like, appreciate it. And the, it's like, these people
51:30
were like, yeah. We used to be bad people, I
51:31
guess in to some of it up as they were like, we used to be
51:34
bad people. We did bad things now we're, but
51:36
now we're good people and we're so good that everyone else is
51:40
like I don't know like oh you're not good enough or you're, you
51:46
know, just very self-righteous like they turn around and they
51:48
become like douchey about how good they are.
51:50
Does that make sense? Like it sounds like narcissism,
51:55
what do you think smokey that sort of diversity of thinking,
51:59
so to speak, they want you to be like them.
52:01
That's kind of turning. I'm sort of turning this back
52:03
around to the diversity thing or diversity of thinking topic.
52:07
Well yeah, that seems to be the case.
52:09
That's one of the things that confuses me, especially when I'm
52:12
our next social media like with liberals and all that.
52:16
As long as you don't mention Trump or it, they get the
52:19
impression that you're going along with them.
52:21
They're the most loving kind people in the world but it's as
52:25
soon as they think that you support something they don't or
52:27
disagree, suddenly they go from these open minded loving kind
52:31
hippies to get the fucking Flames with me.
52:38
Is I like, because I love black middle music.
52:40
Like I mentioned, this guy does all the music and birds and he
52:46
He murdered the guitar player of another band when he was a young
52:50
man and he, oh my God. Yeah, that was actually that's a
52:54
long story. There's a whole self-defense
52:55
sort of discussion about that, he was a Neo-Nazi when in his
53:00
Youth and he he burned down a few churches, when he was
53:04
younger than the black middle scene in Norway.
53:07
And he is not like that anymore. When I interviewed him he was
53:11
extremely like nice and he's like, yeah, burning that those
53:14
churches almost stupid and all of us stuff and he said the Nazi
53:18
shit so stupid, but like He, he actually was one of the people
53:23
who helped coach me out of the out of that mindset because he's
53:26
like, yeah, you're a fan of mine.
53:27
I'm gonna tell you how stupid is.
53:29
And so, the I bring up verse on to those people.
53:32
They're like, yeah, you like the life after hate people.
53:35
I'm like, yeah, I love black metal band.
53:37
I love a lot of black metal bands, like birds on him and
53:40
Bathory and section, and they're like, oh, no, can't be listening
53:43
to Burleson, varghese to be a Nazi.
53:45
I'm like, well, he used to be and he never wrote any of that
53:49
about any of that stuff in his lyrics.
53:51
He wrote about Lord, of the Rings and like ancient Norse
53:54
mythology and he, yeah, he did something.
53:57
He believes some pretty terrible things and his but he's an he's
54:00
an older gentleman now and he doesn't think those things.
54:02
He was 20 back then and they're like that doesn't matter blah
54:05
blah. If you listen to that then that
54:07
makes you. That means you're still
54:08
basically a Nazi or a sympathizer I'm like that's
54:11
stupid. Like because I like a certain
54:15
musical artist, then you think I'm as bad as you used to be.
54:21
Well, usually, for me, there are a lot of bands that I do know
54:25
the history. But I'm the type of guy where I
54:28
listen to music and I don't really dig deep into the, you
54:31
know, the background. If it's somebody like Ozzy
54:33
Osbourne. Sure, Dave, Mustaine Megadeth or
54:35
Metallica, I'll find interest on what inspired them.
54:39
What got them into what they're doing and most bands?
54:42
I'm just like as long as I, what I'm hearing on the radio is good
54:45
but if all the sudden, the screen, you know, fuck
54:48
everybody. I'm announcing that I'm like
54:50
that. It's no, I think what I'm just
54:57
getting out. I'm just using as like a little
54:59
microcosm of how they how I felt like I was treated by people who
55:03
supposedly had a diversity of thought.
55:07
All right. Why?
55:08
It sounds like you've been through a lot of rough shit and
55:11
everything. I'm sorry.
55:11
You had to go through that as a young person, what's the past?
55:16
You know, it's the past, you know, but it's obvious.
55:19
It's still affects you though because I mean if it wasn't too
55:23
in at you a little bit and you didn't think about it from time
55:26
time, you wouldn't just bring it up on a live show.
55:28
So it must must. I think the main thing that
55:32
bothered me about it was like, I didn't really, it didn't really
55:34
allow me to enjoy being a teenager because I was thinking
55:37
about things. I shouldn't have been thinking
55:39
about that age and said a girl's and you know, girls and fishing
55:42
and playing and playing in a rock band or something.
55:45
You know, I was like hanging out with these serious people older
55:48
people and they're like hateful and negative all the time and I
55:51
would stop you from jumping. Are you in a band now or are you
55:56
solo? Oh, I haven't been doing music
56:00
lately. It's been tough.
56:02
Just we're working and everything and getting it just
56:06
life. It's been hard just to schedule.
56:08
I wasn't a thrash metal band or earlier this year.
56:11
We actually played a show in Florida and we did a few
56:13
Megadeth covers and Pantera and stuff, but it just a scheduling
56:19
didn't work out. I was getting wiped out by the
56:21
time I'd wake up to go to work or do or even on the weekends.
56:25
I would wake up just wiped out because like, I was wearing
56:28
myself out and all I wanted to play other types of music as
56:32
well, besides thrash metal. And I love, you know, as much as
56:35
I like that stuff. I've been in a lot of bands.
56:37
I've actually been on a label before I was on a black middle
56:40
band on a label for about six months back in the day.
56:44
I was a session guitarist. I wasn't really like a an
56:47
official member. So I was only contracted for six
56:50
months. I when I was a teenager actually
56:52
used to play shows a lot, I was in a classic rock band, we did a
56:56
lot of glam metal and 70s hard rock and heavy metal and like a
56:59
blues rock. And after that, I was in a death
57:03
metal band. And we did a lot of mostly old
57:05
school like thrash, death and black metal stuff from the 80s
57:08
and 90s like metallicus Slayer possessed, Bathory, Cannibal
57:14
Corpse sometimes morbid, Angels. Stuff like that moment, a little
57:18
while since listening to Campbell Corps more but Angel
57:21
right I remember listening more of it.
57:24
Oh that's right as a thought, the guitarist and he was a
57:30
drunken asshole to me. He was a total asshole to me and
57:35
I was still more of an angel, you're a dick, but I love more
57:38
of an Angel. Do you know a person called Bret
57:41
bong? Their smokey?
57:46
Brett bong. Yeah, that's what they call.
57:49
Are you able to see the comments on your end?
57:51
Oh Me. Oh, I'm not.
57:55
Oh, well, if you, if you look over and you right side of
57:59
screen, you'll see tabs like comments and yada yada.
58:02
Oh wait, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
58:05
Okay, here we go. Yeah, that's how you can respond
58:08
to people. It's a little bit of a slow
58:10
night tonight. Boy, the show we had yesterday
58:13
was pretty awesome. Yeah.
58:17
I don't know who it is, but I was just saying that.
58:19
If anybody out there, listening wants to come in, they can do
58:23
you have some more questions for me?
58:25
Or would you wanting to jam? Oh, I can ask you some more
58:28
questions. Sure.
58:29
Um, just we don't, I, I'm sorry for the rambling and all that I
58:33
sort of diverged. Oh, hey, I bring people in here
58:37
because I enjoy listening to people talk.
58:39
I like hearing about different cultures and Views and all that.
58:42
It's no problem. Oh, thank you.
58:43
All right, let's uh, music music seems to be an important thing.
58:49
For you know you mentioned you want to be a rock star when you
58:52
were younger and I know that in the past I remember hearing like
58:55
you made a song a long time ago. That was really industrial
58:59
sounding I thought was really cool.
59:00
Yes, your father, And I like that a lot.
59:05
It was really cool and it's like, so music.
59:08
Tell me about like, your background was music.
59:10
Who inspired you? He like, and like, who like
59:15
Well, tell me about that. Well, you probably gonna think
59:18
this is unusual before my mother and father divorced.
59:21
My dad. Had a big old cabinet filled
59:24
with cassette tapes. I don't know if you were young
59:27
enough for. I have a bunch of cassette
59:29
tapes. I have older.
59:31
You know, I'm 32. All right.
59:33
All right. Good and you, you know what I'm
59:35
talking about then. Oh, yeah.
59:36
What the fuck. You know, I got eight tracks,
59:40
dude. So my father had such shit like
59:44
Rush. He had a Black Sabbath.
59:47
He had a what the hell was it? The Judas Priest all kinds of
59:52
really, really good ship. One of my favorite favorites was
59:55
Pink Floyd because of all sound effects, I love that kind of
59:59
shit, Dark Side of the Moon in the wall.
1:00:01
So he also had this weird one that I never see anybody talk,
1:00:05
but I think it was called Animals where it had a bunch of
1:00:07
sheep noises and weird like that.
1:00:09
Yeah. And then, on the other hand, my
1:00:14
mother ended up, buying me a record.
1:00:16
There's a lot of people that don't fuk.
1:00:18
That is surprisingly young people.
1:00:20
Nowadays, who are born and just a generation ago. 50 of them are
1:00:24
right over there, so this is probably gonna make you poop
1:00:28
one, but it was Michael Jackson's.
1:00:30
Thriller album. Here I am listening this and
1:00:35
then I'm listening to Thriller beat it, you know, Billie Jean.
1:00:38
So I had a lot of different influences, a lot of things
1:00:41
going on in my head. So what I, I'm not sure that I
1:00:45
completely answered your question on this.
1:00:48
So, can you do the question one more time?
1:00:49
So I can make sure that I answer you.
1:00:51
Oh, sure. I'm I think I stumbled myself to
1:00:55
be fair with you, by and Barney as well.
1:00:57
Journey was one of the big ones too.
1:00:59
New Sean from Journeys. One of my favorite guitar
1:01:02
players, um, Neil Sean and also on the Thriller album.
1:01:06
Most of the guitar was Steve, Lucas from Toto on Beat It.
1:01:11
The lead guitar. The guitar solo was Eddie Van
1:01:14
Halen was just asking with a music, like what?
1:01:21
What inspired you to play music? Pursued, music, like you were
1:01:26
the artists or you heard, you're like, I have to do this and all.
1:01:29
So what instruments did you play?
1:01:33
If you did play an instrument and all and like, What was your
1:01:39
vision so to speak? Musically?
1:01:42
Well, whenever I was a kid and I went to live with my
1:01:46
grandmother, after my mother got sick, she had this ugly ass
1:01:50
little brown organ that took like 10 minutes to fucking warm
1:01:53
up. It was horrific.
1:01:54
It would go like that. While I was doing it.
1:01:58
Kind of sounded like the beginning of The Final Countdown
1:02:01
Track by Europe, right? Oh, sitting there.
1:02:07
I'm sitting there one day and my mother was feeling a little bit
1:02:10
better. One day and came to visit her
1:02:12
mother, which was my grandmother.
1:02:13
And I was listening to like Star Wars and on the television, and
1:02:18
I started playing it. I didn't know the fucking notes,
1:02:21
I didn't know no notes or anything just started.
1:02:23
Playing the theme song and today, you know, and my my
1:02:31
mother just went what the hell and stuff.
1:02:33
And she, she screamed from my grandmother come in and they
1:02:36
listened and she flipped the channel and turned on a soap
1:02:40
opera called Young. And the Restless, when I started
1:02:43
playing that, I had some I think they call it learning by ear.
1:02:48
I could just like that. That's all So seeing the weird
1:02:54
looks on my family's face. How surprised I never really got
1:02:59
that smile out of my family before.
1:03:01
I guess they all figured I was a fucking dumpster fire or
1:03:04
something, but then they seen me playing and I was like, next
1:03:08
thing I know my family was putting me up for like Talent
1:03:11
shit and everything else and there we go, you get people
1:03:14
screaming and yelling you're like holy shit this is cool.
1:03:17
I was nervous as a motherfuker as a kid though almost fessed my
1:03:21
pants at one of them. dude, I mean, I remember up until I
1:03:27
learned to play the guitar, I feel like I wasn't really good
1:03:30
at any much of anything and I Whenever took about a year for
1:03:34
me to even get decent and then all of a sudden it's like, and I
1:03:39
wanted to be like, Randy Rhodes from Ozzy Osborne because I'm
1:03:41
like, he was this magical, the way he played.
1:03:44
And I wanted to be like that, not like God, I'll probably
1:03:47
never get to be like that good. But then I heard the first Van
1:03:50
Halen album. I'm like, I have to learn that.
1:03:54
And then the time I was 13, 14, I was in like a classic rock,
1:03:58
heavy metal, sort of band. And we did a bunch of like
1:04:01
poisons and Guns and Roses Van Halen Foreigner.
1:04:04
So like Lynyrd Skynyrd, Molly, Hatchet, and I remembered, I
1:04:09
surprised everybody. I said, Daddy, you got to come
1:04:12
to the show and he said, okay. And And I did eruption Eddie Van
1:04:16
Halen's guitar solo and I'll let That Into You Really Got Me.
1:04:19
And then we did Foxy Lady by Jimi Hendrix in and that pissed
1:04:23
off my racist friends, and then I smashed my guitar.
1:04:27
And I, I smashed my guitar, my cheap electric guitar to pieces
1:04:34
and everyone loved. And my dad was like, oh my God.
1:04:37
You were just like Jimi Hendrix, or Eddie Van Halen up there.
1:04:41
That was amazing. And he went out bought me like a
1:04:43
real deal Fender Stratocaster electric guitar and and, and,
1:04:48
and I thought so proud of myself for the first time ever.
1:04:50
And then so I feel like this is probably what I should do.
1:04:53
You know, I should probably pursue this and this Nazi shit
1:04:57
just not going to lead me anywhere.
1:04:58
You know, these kids are scary. I mean I I just want to I was
1:05:03
like I didn't want to be a part of that.
1:05:04
It was weird. I thought it's like I want to be
1:05:06
a musician and so I had to keep I actually had to keep a lot of
1:05:09
that stuff under wraps from those guys because like I was
1:05:11
listening to black musicians and watching Jewish comedians and
1:05:15
listen to David Lee Roth, you know, a Jewish rock star.
1:05:18
It's like a fucking love these guys, I don't hate these people
1:05:21
and I Yeah, for me for me it was starting out on the organ and
1:05:28
all this and I obviously at some point in time wanted to do the
1:05:31
band thing. But I was running into a lot of
1:05:34
trouble where I was at this point.
1:05:36
As I was growing older, it started to get into heavy metal
1:05:40
and the glam rock and all that other shit that I used to listen
1:05:43
to in class was starting to it was starting to die.
1:05:47
Unfortunately and alternative music was starting to make its
1:05:50
way in some of it. I thought was good but it's hard
1:05:54
to listen to somebody like Megadeth and then turn her.
1:05:57
I know you mentioned, Kurt Cobain I wasn't entirely ready
1:06:01
for that. I was still like looking at
1:06:03
Slayer and yeah Megadeth and going my goodness, he's
1:06:06
motherfukers are like gods and then Kurt Cobain comes along and
1:06:10
he's doing a gymnasium Teen Spirit song.
1:06:13
And I'm like, what the fuck am I look at what?
1:06:15
What is this? It was good, but it wasn't like
1:06:18
we, you know what I'm talking about the same, it was Hard.
1:06:23
But it wasn't like the same as like, Megadeth and Metallica.
1:06:27
Like I totally get that. It was it was hard for me, it
1:06:31
was odd, but I was I wasn't totally shocked at Marilyn
1:06:34
Manson though because I'd already watched King Diamond and
1:06:37
Alice Cooper. So I was like, I was just about
1:06:40
to say that in at that same time, though you did have a
1:06:43
Resurgence of some like more at the time alternative or
1:06:47
industrial heavy metal type bands.
1:06:49
Like Marilyn Manson, Nine Inch Nails and kmfdm more than the
1:06:53
industrial side, you know. And so there was some, there's
1:06:57
still some head and you had an early 90s, a black metal thing
1:07:00
in Norway was happening. And, you know, so there's still
1:07:03
some metal around, but I told him to understand what you're
1:07:06
saying that for somebody around at that time, you're listening
1:07:09
to Glam middle, Glam middle and heavy metal and fresh metal and
1:07:12
stuff. And then Nirvana's popular and
1:07:14
Pearl Jam's, popular and maybe at first, it's like, what the
1:07:17
fuck is this? Yeah, it was, it was tough, it
1:07:20
was tough. Well, I eventually ended up
1:07:23
picking up a guitar and I just discovered that, hey, I can do
1:07:26
some rest, I can pull off some Metallica.
1:07:29
I could not pull off fucking Megadeth.
1:07:31
Dave mustaine's too crazy. I was thinking what it's like a
1:07:35
blessing and a curse when you listen to other musicians
1:07:38
because you love them and you're like they're fucking great.
1:07:41
But then on the other hand you're like.
1:07:42
How am I gonna do shit like that?
1:07:44
There's no fucking way. I just don't have those kind of
1:07:48
that kind of skills that, you know, then Queen's.
1:07:50
Right comes out. You're going, oh shit, fuck all.
1:07:55
You know, so this is what I found.
1:07:58
I was great at riffs. I was great at coming up with a
1:08:01
melody and all that, but as far as soloing, I was a weak fucking
1:08:06
person. Whenever it came to that, I just
1:08:08
could not pick it up. However, my brother he was
1:08:11
watching me and he was like, hey, we teach me how to play
1:08:14
some of these chords. So I showed him, you know, your
1:08:18
typical low E and said and showed him how to do some stuff.
1:08:22
Next thing I know with them fucking month, he's blowing me
1:08:26
out of the water. He's doing leads and he's like a
1:08:28
prodigy on the fucking guitar. Don't believe me, check out his
1:08:32
channel just in Keene I've actually promoted this channel
1:08:35
on the past. He is fucking crazy.
1:08:37
He's got a band called, Black Death, and from time to time,
1:08:41
he'll work with me on music and all that, but he's got his own
1:08:44
thing going as well. Have you seen those Channel?
1:08:47
Heaven, you should leave me link me the channel.
1:08:49
I like to see that. His name's Justin Keen.
1:08:53
He actually, I told him a long time ago, this little shocked
1:08:57
you you'll be shocked when you go over there but I said, hey,
1:08:59
make a video for The Amazing Atheist and he goes what kind of
1:09:03
music does he like? And I said, do the beautiful
1:09:06
people, but make it heavy as fuk make it like Megadeth played it
1:09:11
would play it and stuff and he goes, all right, no problem.
1:09:14
And I also said they, some of the members like WWE wrestling.
1:09:19
So do like John Cena and metal and those.
1:09:23
All right, so his name is Justin Keen.
1:09:25
If you look him up or you just lookin' in the description of my
1:09:29
videos, You'll see, you can go over there and say, hey man,
1:09:32
what's up? And all that.
1:09:34
Unfortunately, he gets attacked because he's related to me.
1:09:37
So, that's what he doesn't talk about atheism, or religion, or
1:09:42
God or anything like that. He just does music, but just
1:09:45
like Superman. Exactly, go ahead anymore
1:09:49
questions. Oh, I was gonna say, like, you
1:09:52
know, oh, Well, what kind of I don't see what kind of guitar
1:09:59
did you have? Uh back then it was like a
1:10:03
cheesy ass. I think it was like a Les Paul.
1:10:05
I ended up getting a was a shity ass Gibson.
1:10:10
I was fucking poor dude. So I don't like have anybody
1:10:13
being able to hook me up? And then I ended up getting like
1:10:16
a cheap-ass core and everything and started working on that for
1:10:20
a little while. I was really, really starting to
1:10:23
get exciting whenever I got into I when I started calling up like
1:10:26
Studios to see how much that shit cost.
1:10:28
I was like holy fuck this. Oh, it's insane.
1:10:33
It's you know what I did? I started learning how to do I
1:10:37
just said, fuck. This is cost a lot of money to
1:10:39
do something like that. So I started working on my own
1:10:42
recording editing, the software and all the other bulshit like
1:10:46
cool out of pro Cake, walk and some other stuff and I realized
1:10:49
this is the cheaper. Way to go go digital.
1:10:52
This is definitely the best way to do things.
1:10:55
And you're more independent, you have more control over your art.
1:11:00
And exactly. So I was going to mention also.
1:11:03
The former keyboard synth player for Marilyn Manson.
1:11:08
His real name is Steven beer by his stage names.
1:11:11
Were Madonna. Wayne Gacy and sometimes Pogo,
1:11:13
I've actually yeah man, bad name to give associated with but go
1:11:19
ahead. No, you get some Marilyn Manson.
1:11:21
They were doing a stick, you know, but I Steven or Stephen
1:11:25
Madonna or Pogo, however, you want to call him.
1:11:27
I actually corresponded with him a little bit around 2017, or
1:11:32
when Daisy Berkowitz, they original guitarist passed away
1:11:35
and he, he is extremely intelligent.
1:11:39
Like, it's crazy because like I know Manson himself is very
1:11:43
intelligent, but like, Steve and beer is keyboard player.
1:11:46
It's like, He has autism, but it's like there's really high
1:11:50
functioning form of autism where he like knows everything about
1:11:54
music Jewish numerology because he grew up in a Jewish
1:11:57
household. He worked for NASA before he
1:12:01
real quick here, every once in a while, you're going to see
1:12:04
popups on the screen, you're still hurt.
1:12:07
Don't let it distract you or make you think.
1:12:10
Oh, you're not being seen her right?
1:12:11
Oh good. Yeah, I've seen the memes and
1:12:13
stuff. It's all good.
1:12:14
Um, I was just gonna say that. Yeah, Madonna, Wayne Gacy or
1:12:18
Stephen beer, he When I talk to him, he was very cool to me.
1:12:22
He was very nice and polite. It's like, you know, when people
1:12:25
think about Marilyn Manson or his band, they think they're a
1:12:27
bunch of psychos or whatever. But it's like, man I had a
1:12:31
pretty I never made Manson himself but The.
1:12:35
Interaction. I had with Steve, and he was
1:12:37
very nice. He was extremely intelligent and
1:12:39
he and Manson had their differences, but he still said a
1:12:43
lot of good things about him, and He, you know, he seemed like
1:12:47
a really approachable guy. And so the Manson guys and never
1:12:51
met to Iggy Ramirez. I don't have a desire to because
1:12:53
of what he did with his girlfriend.
1:12:55
I just have no desire to talk to Twiggy, but if I could talk to
1:12:58
Manson, or if I could talk to like One of his old band
1:13:03
members, that'd be cool. Let's you would think that
1:13:06
they'd be like crazy people, you know, like some people say, oh
1:13:09
man, they're like I'm in Manson he was an asshole and Stephen
1:13:13
was an asshole and all the it's like all these crazy metal
1:13:15
people you'd think would be giant assholes, but a lot of
1:13:18
them are very nice. Mmm, this friend that I have
1:13:22
that comes in from time to time. I know this may shock you
1:13:25
because you probably haven't got to see a lot of my shows in the
1:13:28
past, but I got a buddy who he was a former Reverend of the
1:13:32
Church of Satan who comes in. I know it might shock some
1:13:37
people out there, what your Christian but you hang out with
1:13:39
us Satanist. Well, he he actually claims up
1:13:42
and down that Maryland Manson came to some of the things that
1:13:46
he he was involved and I don't know if it's true.
1:13:49
Oh he told me the Maryland Manson's extremely intelligent
1:13:53
and cool and all that kind of shit.
1:13:55
What I know about Manson's connection with the Church of
1:13:59
Satan and Anton. LaVey is just that like he
1:14:02
visited him a couple of times in the 90s and and and and Anton
1:14:07
hosted dinner for him and gave him a tour of the black house.
1:14:10
And from what I understand, he made him like a high priest in
1:14:14
the Church of Satan but Manson himself as an atheist and I know
1:14:18
their atheist too. But like he he doesn't It was a
1:14:22
certain not loving in, according to the former, the former
1:14:27
Reverend of the Satan Church, I know Marilyn Manson identifies
1:14:31
as an atheist and somewhat agnostic.
1:14:34
Sometimes depends on what mood he's in that day.
1:14:36
Yeah, but this guy, this guy is a theistic, Satan, you're
1:14:41
definitely right. There's a lot of atheist
1:14:42
Satanist but this guy he believes God's a bad guy and
1:14:45
Satan's a cool dude. So but I I was gonna say like, I
1:14:51
think Manson's interaction with Anton LaVey and the Church of
1:14:54
Satan was honestly superficial. It's just seems to it seemed
1:14:58
like Anton took interest in him like he did with King Diamond.
1:15:01
It was like, oh, you're doing is pretty cool blah blah come over.
1:15:04
I don't think there's much more to it than that.
1:15:06
Personally, if he did, I'm sure he was hanging around.
1:15:09
I mean, a lot of people, you know, but why I've heard, okay.
1:15:13
Just said, I've heard that he was a part of Satan's and for a
1:15:16
little bit then, did try the Christian thing again?
1:15:19
I know that he tried Christianity when he was.
1:15:22
Young girl. But he, there was a lot of
1:15:24
videos going around a couple years ago about that bunch of
1:15:27
atheist pooped her pants over it.
1:15:28
I don't know what the fuck he is now though.
1:15:31
Um, I actually am friendly with a former girlfriend of his
1:15:35
because I interviewed her, I'm not going to say your name, just
1:15:38
because she's a, she's not a famous person.
1:15:40
She said she still sees them from time to time.
1:15:44
And said, he's still, just himself, pretty much like he's
1:15:47
not as wild as he used to be. He's fully sober now and he's
1:15:50
he's not as like an he's not as angry as he used to be or is
1:15:54
like he's just going through his Alice, Cooper motion.
1:15:57
So to speak. Now, he's just doing his
1:15:58
Rockstar thing. And one second, Mr. Smoke, here.
1:16:03
You still there. Yeah, no, I am.
1:16:05
By the way, if my signal gets a little funky, it's just cuz I'm
1:16:08
driving down to the store so it might bounce it out, just say,
1:16:12
you know, but I am like I'm here I'm listening.
1:16:13
All right how much to contribute to the whole music thing.
1:16:17
I was usually kind of more of like the nerdy geeky kid and
1:16:20
high school that like, you know, video games and anime.
1:16:25
Yeah, I wasn't really holding to like heavy Rockets plus like
1:16:28
grew up in a rural area. So as you like country or pop or
1:16:31
stuff like that, you know, things like that.
1:16:32
So I grew up in rural area, rural Alabama.
1:16:35
But I love the older guys, and listen to like, you know, guys,
1:16:38
I grow up with 80s metal and stuff.
1:16:40
Would show me poison and Van Halen and all that.
1:16:42
Yeah, I never really got too many tastes of that, like,
1:16:46
probably the hardest thing I ever got exposed to what I was
1:16:48
younger, I was probably like something like Guns and Roses or
1:16:50
something like that, you know. Yeah.
1:16:52
A lot of the 80s heavy metal stuff, you'll be you know, Green
1:16:56
Day, you know, stuff like that. That was kind of my jam going
1:16:58
up. And what if you if you feel that
1:17:03
you want to add any topics or whatever, you know, it's fine.
1:17:06
No I was enjoying the conversation.
1:17:07
I just, I just on this particular topic, I just never
1:17:10
want to say that's all. I don't know.
1:17:12
As a kid going to school. I was wearing leather jackets
1:17:15
and of course I had to do the long hair because every guy
1:17:18
wanted to look like a bitch back in the 80s.
1:17:20
That's called a metal head. And one of their words, they got
1:17:28
from a movie, they would call guys.
1:17:30
Like he was a fucking Greaser. It's yeah.
1:17:35
Sure, head bangers. Yeah research yeah, sure.
1:17:39
Oh I was gonna add this. So I used to be friends with
1:17:43
Brian Hoffman who was a former guitarist of the of the death
1:17:47
metal band dyazide and he is a theistic Satanist and we were
1:17:52
friendly because we actually met on a BC Rich Facebook page, BC
1:17:56
Rich, guitars, Facebook page. And He he will, he seemed like a
1:18:01
really cool guy. And we talked guitars, Talk
1:18:03
Shop, you know. And but a friend of mine who is
1:18:06
a Christian, who loves metal like commented.
1:18:09
Yeah, dude, that's a, he posted a picture of a guitar and my
1:18:12
friend commented, dude, that's a good looking guitar.
1:18:15
Is that customer? Did you do it yourself?
1:18:17
And Brian said, I just saw your profile.
1:18:21
I don't want no like f, a g g o t Christian.
1:18:24
Listen to my music, get that fuck out and all the stuff he
1:18:28
was just really nasty to him and I was like, hey Brian, what's
1:18:31
going on man? He said, I don't want some
1:18:33
Christian. Listen to my music telling me
1:18:36
about my guitars or whatever else like you know, he buys your
1:18:39
records, he pays your bills, you know, you should appreciate your
1:18:42
fans regardless of what they believe I said and I actually
1:18:45
let him know. I reminded him that dyazide
1:18:47
replaced him with the Catholic guitar player.
1:18:49
Once So that's rough. Yeah, like what we referred to
1:18:55
as an anti-theist smokey. I I told him I said I'm gonna be
1:19:00
friends with anybody, I don't care how big of a Guitar Hero
1:19:02
you know, he there's like there's a variance you know of
1:19:09
atheism that I think is much less about any real, like
1:19:13
genuine consideration of what's true or not.
1:19:15
And it just has to do with an emotional, plea of anger and
1:19:19
rage at the very concept of God, you know as if as if to say that
1:19:25
even if They believed he existed and maybe in some level in their
1:19:30
psyche, they do, but to they latch onto this idea, that if he
1:19:35
did exist it, he would be worthy of the deepest, ire, and hatred,
1:19:39
it's a bizarre. Psychology built on.
1:19:42
I think really some of it having to do with a lack of personal
1:19:45
accountability, you know, kind of blaming situations in their
1:19:49
lives entirely around a malevolent, you know, invisible
1:19:52
force that directs and you know determines their life to be the
1:19:56
shit that it is and it just builds up this bubbling you know
1:19:59
resentment and disdain. And the best insults that they
1:20:03
can cause to the potentiality of the Divine is to die his very
1:20:07
existence altogether. So It's an emotional response.
1:20:11
It's a reactionary response like it's a way of to me.
1:20:14
I was just telling Brett early, I'm not like that at all.
1:20:17
My reason I'm an atheist is just the conclusion.
1:20:20
I came to, you know, I'm not over here like, you know, fuck
1:20:23
God, hail Satan and, you know, go burn down churches and stuff
1:20:27
like that. Like the Catholic Church, the
1:20:29
Catholic school that just got shot up.
1:20:31
This children died. That's terrible to me, that's
1:20:33
just awful. Like, that's like, you know, you
1:20:38
know, average in some songs when I was younger, I've, you know,
1:20:41
I'll listen to a lot of crazy music and all that.
1:20:43
But to me, it's like I know I'm I'm an atheist and stuff, but
1:20:47
like it's just not right, you just don't do that.
1:20:50
That's their their right to assemble the right to worship
1:20:54
their and in the right to not die and practicing what they
1:20:58
want to believe in this country where you have the freedom to do
1:21:01
so and of course you don't go into any, you don't go anywhere
1:21:05
and shoot children. To shoot children.
1:21:08
You're scum to me. I don't care what you are, what
1:21:10
you believe. Well not just children.
1:21:12
But any anybody out there? You All right, and I agree with
1:21:19
you and you're the, you're the type of atheist that I'm sure is
1:21:22
Smokey would agree that you're always, welcome to hang out with
1:21:25
us and chat and all that. And we we don't mind if people
1:21:28
have questions or critiques or anything like that, but people
1:21:32
got to obviously prepare themself.
1:21:34
We're always going to probably have a response or report.
1:21:37
Of course, I get that, you know, I just some people they have, I
1:21:44
think a lot of people, especially in this country, I
1:21:47
hate to say, have a very knee jerk reactionary way of Behaving
1:21:52
and thinking that is just is leading to the division we have
1:21:56
like because I've been a journalist, I've interviewed Neo
1:21:59
Nazis, I've interviewed Communists, I've interviewed
1:22:01
Islamic former Islamic extremists and every single time
1:22:05
they were respectful to me, I was respectful to them, I bought
1:22:09
them a six pack of beer or a little joint with them.
1:22:12
Or, you know, we talked we talked about lighter subjects
1:22:15
before we got to the serious stuff and It's about mutual
1:22:18
respect. It's like I, If you're a neon
1:22:21
see I think you're you're an asshole and I think Well you
1:22:25
believe in his abhorrent but it's like he you know until you
1:22:29
cross that line and you hurt somebody, you have the right to
1:22:33
say what you want. You express yourself.
1:22:36
If you don't mind me asking you a question, I understand that
1:22:40
you're saying that you're an atheist but you know, just as
1:22:43
well as I there's different unfortunately.
1:22:45
Nowadays there are more brands of atheism.
1:22:47
It used to just be we, lack of belief in deities and we find no
1:22:51
evidence to entertain it. Unfortunately, now there's
1:22:54
atheist agnostic, or Satan or safety is?
1:22:56
Yeah. Yeah.
1:22:57
You sound like, one of the cool just fucking classical.
1:23:00
Chill type. Hey man, I what I type of thing
1:23:04
but I gotta ask you. Do you believe in the
1:23:06
possibility of God at least? Hopefully there could be
1:23:10
something out there to me, though.
1:23:12
It's such a complex issue because like I also have like a
1:23:16
because I have a Scottish in German and Dutch background, I
1:23:20
haven't admiration for Celtic and Proto Nordic Germanic
1:23:23
paganism or like polytheism culturally, it's like in a lot.
1:23:27
I think it's I love mythology and I love European history
1:23:31
world history in general but like so there's that tie that so
1:23:35
it sort of complex. It's a complex thing for me
1:23:38
because I'm like, yeah, there could be a hobo.
1:23:40
Other could be wotan and Thor and Freya, you know, there could
1:23:45
be some of the Slavic gods or it could be Hindu gods or who
1:23:50
knows? I am the kind of person where I
1:23:53
try to be open-minded about that sort of thing because I'm just a
1:23:57
person here on Earth, I'm not I'm not, I don't have the
1:24:00
ability to confirm or deny, anything that could be out
1:24:05
there. Know he's done.
1:24:07
Can I ask a question real quick? Of course, you can't Smoky like,
1:24:11
um, I'm just curious because it's kind of a curious thing.
1:24:14
Like, like it's actually interesting, kind of like what
1:24:16
you said, like kind of the view of like, well, even if there was
1:24:19
a god, there's all these different gods and stuff and
1:24:22
things like that. Like, do you kind of get the
1:24:25
impression that like if there was a God that, you know, and to
1:24:29
me like the idea of a God, Like if there was a God that God did
1:24:34
something to manifest, not only the creation of the whole
1:24:37
universe, but clearly us, you know, like the the sudden
1:24:41
massive assembling of, of information and to a language
1:24:45
and order to create, you know, basically a code to construct
1:24:50
DNA and the fundamental building blocks of life, I think, you
1:24:53
know, that kind of to me, like, if we are adopting, the idea
1:24:56
that there is a God, Like I think he's involved, you know?
1:24:59
Entirely from top to bottom and basically, you know everything,
1:25:02
do you find that reasonable or do you kind of see it?
1:25:05
Otherwise, If there is a God, as in the Christian, the
1:25:10
judeo-christian God was just any God.
1:25:12
I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet.
1:25:14
I'm just going with Eddie God. Any God?
1:25:16
Yeah, if they are, if they exist as they are, then I believe
1:25:20
there's some sort of mechanisms out there, like, if there is a
1:25:24
God, or gods or goddesses, or whatever.
1:25:26
They, then if they exist, then the machinations of the
1:25:32
universe. How we are, how the way things?
1:25:36
The reason the way things are the way they are, I think is
1:25:38
entirely Beholden to them. interesting, okay, so you're
1:25:43
kind of almost more agnostic and you're And your take of it, for
1:25:48
the most part, like really in terms of a goddess existing,
1:25:51
really, you're just, you're just not really like fully convinced
1:25:54
me with them like definitively exists as I kind of.
1:25:57
Yeah. I'd say, I don't believe in any
1:26:00
gods and but I don't rule out the possibility because the
1:26:04
universe Wellness is so vast, who are we to say other, you
1:26:07
know, when way or the other, you know, cool.
1:26:09
And you just real quick and Smoky and give it to you.
1:26:14
And I am about to go in the store.
1:26:16
So I just had one more question all but but no, go ahead.
1:26:19
Brad. That's it's fine.
1:26:20
Go ahead. No, go ahead.
1:26:21
Okay. So, yeah, so I guess kind of my
1:26:24
one more point to make it kind of asked like in your view, do
1:26:29
you kind of see all the god claims as essentially equivalent
1:26:34
or like, do you know this anything that kind of like
1:26:37
separates any of them like from each other?
1:26:39
Well, you mean, as in the plausibility.
1:26:43
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
1:26:46
Let's go with that. I'm pretty equal equal ground.
1:26:48
Like, you know, I mean, like, To me it could be Odin or it could
1:26:53
be Odin and the Nordic gods or could be a Soviet gods or the
1:26:56
Christian or the soul Christian. God but I also have thought of
1:27:00
wrote on my head I've thought well what if it's like not even
1:27:03
anything we've even conceptualized here on Earth.
1:27:05
What if it's something that we don't even?
1:27:07
maybe there is a God but what if it's like something we don't
1:27:10
even know about Interesting. Well, and I'll just tell you
1:27:13
kind of my take, you know, on it too.
1:27:16
Because I kind of I argue this and I have a very kind of
1:27:19
specific look at at a, pretty famous, kind of old running
1:27:22
argument that young atheist hate it and they end usually poke a
1:27:28
poke at it, you know, from a distance.
1:27:30
I don't usually like to engage with it directly but it's the
1:27:32
Pascal's wager. Are you familiar with that?
1:27:35
Yeah, it's like, oh well, what if there is a guy, are you
1:27:38
afraid? You'll go to hell when you die,
1:27:40
right? And atheists will say well
1:27:43
that's dumb because you don't know which God.
1:27:46
And so even if you were to bet on a God then you have to choose
1:27:50
which God says so it's a bad way.
1:27:51
That's, that's how they usually poke up, but my argument is That
1:27:56
if there was a god it would have to be the Christian God.
1:28:00
There would be the only one that would actually make sense and
1:28:03
I'll just give one point before I run to the store and you can
1:28:06
chew on it a little bit and I'll come back.
1:28:07
But one of the primary points is the, the ontology and the origin
1:28:13
of the Christian God. I know this is singularly unique
1:28:16
or the day of Christian, God, I should say because we're talking
1:28:18
about Jewish texts as well. It was in Judea Christian God, I
1:28:21
do exclude as long because of the Muslim dilemma, and I think
1:28:24
anyone that's objective and honest with that, will reject
1:28:27
Islam out the gate. So, let's just you.
1:28:29
So we'll just we'll just go with the idea.
1:28:31
In my mind. My take is that the the specific
1:28:34
claim of the Christian God is unique.
1:28:36
So because the Christian God, the judeo-christian god amongst
1:28:39
all the other, God gains it, God claims the Egyptian gods, the
1:28:43
Sumerian gods, the Nordic gods, the Greek gods.
1:28:45
The Roman gods, all of those Gods.
1:28:47
All have an origin. They all have a birth story.
1:28:50
They all have an emergency, a lot of them were purely some.
1:28:55
Baloch for things in nature as a way for all, right?
1:28:58
And and when you get to the, you know, when you get to the Far
1:29:02
East type religions, you find things like Shintoism, you know,
1:29:06
or ideas were like, you know, basically every aspect of nature
1:29:11
is its own Spirit or Force entity or you know.
1:29:14
So you find some of these radical ideas but in the
1:29:17
concept, all of these things have an ontology where they are
1:29:21
non eternal. And the thing that gravitates me
1:29:25
as the potentiality of the Christian judeo-christian God
1:29:28
claim Rising above, is because it held to a concept that makes
1:29:34
perfect sense. But certainly was culturally
1:29:36
unreasonable, and unprecedented at the time of its origin of
1:29:41
these stories coming up where all other ancient nearly gods
1:29:45
and deities, you know, had stories of their own origin of
1:29:48
birth. Yahweh was unique in his claim
1:29:51
to have always existed and always been outside of space and
1:29:55
time, you know, which is where when we get further along, and
1:29:58
we study more, and we kind of look at the causality of the
1:30:02
universe and the likelihood of it.
1:30:04
Requiring, An Origin that a backtrack of causal chains has
1:30:08
to terminate someone or at an ultimate in order to be feasible
1:30:13
and then we track that back through natural Theology.
1:30:15
And we get the idea that if there is a God, he must exist,
1:30:19
you know, outside of the creation.
1:30:23
You know itself you know, otherwise it it's it's basically
1:30:28
just an emergence nonsensical emergence from chaos which makes
1:30:31
no no real sense. And so the uniqueness of the
1:30:34
Christian God to me is correct, ontology and correct,
1:30:37
epistemology. As to what I would expect a
1:30:41
deity to actually be, which would be an entity
1:30:44
transcendental and beyond our universe and step born inside
1:30:47
it, you know, born inside. I don't know you're saying
1:30:50
because like really if you look at the pagan gods on say
1:30:53
paganism, I get they could be European it.
1:30:55
Be South America and it's just polytheism if you look at the
1:30:58
ancient pagan gods, a lot of them, I do think they're cool.
1:31:02
I think that's all mythology is cool and stuff, but really I
1:31:04
actually work from bursum who I mentioned earlier.
1:31:06
Discussed a lot of this with me because he's, he considers
1:31:09
himself a pagan, he was minister or anything like that.
1:31:12
He he explained it to me, like he said in ancient times, you
1:31:19
know, A lot of these gods were humanized and they were like
1:31:24
superheroes. It's kind of like, what we do
1:31:26
with superheroes today where we kind of Antipas and super
1:31:30
energized. A human creature to kind of.
1:31:33
Yeah, give us something to kind of look up to in mythology.
1:31:36
It's stuff that's very unique to earth, right?
1:31:39
Exactly Jehovah. The judeo-christian God, you
1:31:42
could say because he's trained, he transient, he transcends
1:31:46
mirror Earth, whereas, like the pagan gods are tied to the
1:31:50
cultures here on Earth, whereas we're, is it in the day of
1:31:56
Christian god, Jehovah Yahweh. He Is the universe.
1:32:01
Like he's over the universe he's over and to me it ends up
1:32:04
falling down to at the bottom line.
1:32:07
Then, is it falls down to into an actual definition difference?
1:32:11
You see because like, if a God is created inside the universe,
1:32:16
to me, that's not a God, that's just an alien.
1:32:19
That's another creature. You know, that exists or emerges
1:32:22
from the natural chaos, so you are actually.
1:32:27
So if we're talking about what a God is, when I say God and I'm
1:32:30
talking a grand Creator transcendental to all that
1:32:34
exists and was created really only the Christian.
1:32:38
God, fits that definition, and that's really kind of where I
1:32:42
was going with it on that and that's where I ultimately lead
1:32:45
with the pascals major. But I got to run in the store.
1:32:47
My wife is scouting at but I will be listening.
1:32:50
So go right ahead and chew on you, can you let Mac know to
1:32:55
send me? The MP4 files of the songs so I
1:32:58
will do. I'll let him know.
1:32:59
I'll send them a message on Discord to shoot him over to
1:33:02
you. Absolutely.
1:33:02
Yeah. Also let him know that I think
1:33:04
his music's awesome and I'll help them.
1:33:07
Anyway, I can he's a great guy, man.
1:33:09
He really is and he's talented. He writes, he writes those,
1:33:12
those bars. Like I can't believe, man.
1:33:15
And he just pumps him out. That guy's really sharp.
1:33:17
He's got some really good talent right in, alright and lyrics and
1:33:20
stuff like that. So yeah, it would be really
1:33:22
awesome if you could help promote them, that would be
1:33:24
great, it'd be good for him, and he's got a family, you know,
1:33:26
he'd love to have a little extra stuff coming in if you possibly
1:33:29
could and he's got the talents. So yeah, anything to help him
1:33:32
out all for that. Oh help him get so that was
1:33:35
something yeah. Getting hold of me and we'll
1:33:37
talk. Well, we'll do.
1:33:38
We'll do. I'm just gonna hop out for a few
1:33:40
minutes guys, while I run on the store, I'll be I'll be back in a
1:33:42
little bit. All right, by the way, is nice,
1:33:45
I see you, man. If I if I don't if I miss you
1:33:47
for any reason it was really nice to meet you and happy to
1:33:50
chat with any time I have you man, appreciate it, but yeah.
1:33:56
All right, so earlier I had asked you do you believe in the
1:34:00
possibility of God and you said, yes, it's obvious that you're an
1:34:03
intellectually honest, open-minded person, which is
1:34:06
cool. You do understand why Smoky, as
1:34:09
well as myself agree, that it sounds and this this isn't know
1:34:13
kind of pooping on you or anything, but it's pretty clear
1:34:16
that by definition. You're an agnostic.
1:34:18
And the reason why I say that is the classic definition of an
1:34:22
atheist is one who likes to believe in deities, but when I
1:34:25
asked you, if God is possible, you said yes.
1:34:27
When you saying that that takes away the whole lack of belief
1:34:31
and all that if you believe it's actually possible, do you see
1:34:34
I'm not doing a gotcha on you, but, no, you're open-minded and
1:34:38
you're, you're looking, I think that there's something in you
1:34:41
where you, you are searching for the truth of all that.
1:34:44
And you don't want to get indoctrinated in the bullshit.
1:34:47
Should I understand that? Yeah, I'm somebody who I try to
1:34:51
constantly mentally evolve myself because I, I can't Stand
1:34:56
it whenever I meet people who are like in my inner thirties,
1:35:00
like me or who are thinking the same things they thought 10
1:35:03
years ago or 20 years ago. It's like I am constantly trying
1:35:07
to evolve and to me like When it comes to God or gods or, you
1:35:14
know, when it comes to religion, I have a more open mind now than
1:35:21
I used to when I was younger, I was a lot more aggressive.
1:35:25
I guess, you know, I used to be in a death metal band and we
1:35:28
wrote some pretty unsavory lyrics about religion.
1:35:32
And I still love death metal but I mean like it's just I still
1:35:35
play played some of that on guitar and all that I just don't
1:35:38
care about the anti-religious or satanic lyrics or anything like
1:35:42
that. It just it's a music to me.
1:35:45
But yeah, when it comes to all that, I try to have I'll try to
1:35:51
constantly evolve myself. I'll try to observe the world as
1:35:54
it is and take like, I guess it's like the journalist and me,
1:35:59
I'm trying to learn. I'm just trying to learn and I'm
1:36:01
trying to understand the world around me and I'm not trying to,
1:36:04
like, stick my finger in it with my own agenda or put my own spin
1:36:08
on it. I'm like, genuinely trying to
1:36:10
figure out why things are the way they are or were going to be
1:36:18
did you? I I know that you've watched it
1:36:20
during confessions. Did you hear because they had
1:36:22
asked me, obviously, what is one of the things?
1:36:25
A significant reason for believing that there's some kind
1:36:29
of higher power? Did you ever hear that that
1:36:32
episode where I actually explained it?
1:36:34
Of course, I was born on and then a rock.
1:36:38
Well if you wouldn't mind that, I'd like to hear how you how you
1:36:41
would approach it, how would you define?
1:36:45
I want to make sure that we agree on this.
1:36:47
How would you define Supernatural?
1:36:51
Well something that is Supernatural to me whether it is
1:36:54
an entity or a deity, or a spirit or whatever.
1:36:58
I personally like, just like with God or I just, I've never
1:37:04
had that experience myself. So I can't say one way or the
1:37:08
other. All right, you wouldn't be, you
1:37:10
wouldn't be enough or atheist if you were.
1:37:12
But I'm asking you, what is your class of definition of
1:37:16
Supernatural, Supernatural is something otherworldly that is
1:37:22
beyond our realm that we can't quite explain, or we can
1:37:27
something that is just beyond our realm.
1:37:30
So to speak that interests, our realm like something
1:37:33
otherworldly, That like something paranormal, something
1:37:37
that is safe from another dimension in a way, like if, for
1:37:41
lack of a better way of putting it.
1:37:44
That's pretty damn close. It's, it's definitely wanting to
1:37:48
hit the nail on the head. I work with yarn at those.
1:37:51
The definition of Supernatural, is something that acts out of
1:37:55
the laws of nature. You agree with that.
1:37:57
Exactly, that's a great way to put it.
1:38:00
That's a more succinct way to put it than what I said.
1:38:03
So let me let me throw this at you and remember I'm not into
1:38:07
the gotcha. Shit it does mean no good.
1:38:09
Try to embarrass an atheist or anything like that or agnostic.
1:38:13
The idea is to just open your mind I'm not trying to get you
1:38:16
to join over I don't go for it. All right so do you do you agree
1:38:24
with the popular scientific theory of the Big Bang?
1:38:29
The Big Bang is a theory because nobody was there at the time to
1:38:34
witness it because to me I don't believe the Earth is merely 6000
1:38:39
years old, but I also like I do believe in evolution.
1:38:42
But even if I believed in God, I would still believe in evolution
1:38:45
because I believe God triggered evolution.
1:38:48
So we have, we had the aesthetic evolutionists, we have Christian
1:38:53
evolutionists, not a problem. But for the people out there who
1:38:57
may not know the understanding or a very specialized, a simple
1:39:03
analogy of the Big Bang, basically the scientists for the
1:39:06
audience, you may already know this, but the analogy is, is
1:39:09
that there was a, there was a tiny Seer about the size of a
1:39:13
pen needle, filled with energy that exploded and created
1:39:17
nature, space and time and matter and everything in it.
1:39:20
Our entire universe comes from the little pulsing energy that
1:39:24
the scientists speak of they call it the singularity.
1:39:27
I'm sure you've heard that term, right?
1:39:28
Yes, I have. Okay, so now being that the way
1:39:32
I just put that analogy and that's what their theory is.
1:39:35
Would you agree that if the universe and nature itself
1:39:39
didn't exist, then the cause of the universe was outside of the
1:39:43
walls of nature. If there's no nature, there's no
1:39:45
laws correct, that's actually really interesting because yeah,
1:39:50
I know in a way because like if that little pinpoint like I
1:39:54
thought about myself actually I Because I'm like, well what was
1:39:59
around? That little like tiny, Pinprick
1:40:03
of energy. What was around it?
1:40:04
If there's nothing then like, is that is that nature itself also,
1:40:10
or did the Big Bang create nature as a concept.
1:40:14
And so I do think about things like that.
1:40:18
It's because we weren't around back then, to witness it.
1:40:21
We don't have any real solid evidence of it.
1:40:23
And we don't have, I mean, There are people who theorize that
1:40:27
like some of the Stardust and things in the universe, black
1:40:30
holes are residual, leftovers of the Big Bang, but they still.
1:40:33
But they'll still make a point to say that they are not 100%
1:40:36
sure, because nobody knows I to be hard to say because it I
1:40:44
would need to know what was Around, not the pinprick of
1:40:48
energy itself before it exploded, but like what was
1:40:51
going on around. It was it just nothingness?
1:40:54
Or like, I so I, I can't tell you really.
1:40:57
I can't give you a real solid honest answer and be like, yeah,
1:41:00
I know for sure, you know, you know, I mean, will you, you
1:41:03
would obviously agree and any intellectually honest, atheists
1:41:07
would say that in the, in the event, that this is how it
1:41:12
happened that the scientists are absolutely correct.
1:41:14
Then we may not be able to really talk about that Seer and
1:41:19
that energy and how it was pulsating.
1:41:21
What ignited it. But here's what we can do.
1:41:24
We can for one you just you just strap you later.
1:41:28
This idea that there's probably some kind of void around it.
1:41:31
There's nothing right? There's no Universe at this
1:41:34
point possibly. I mean, I am not sure that's
1:41:37
what I'm saying. Like it was around before, the
1:41:39
Big Bang is a giant mystery to me, right?
1:41:42
So but check this out, this is gonna be the the part that
1:41:46
Should go. Wow and I want you to think
1:41:48
about this when when you're off you show and you just laying in
1:41:52
your bed at night thinking about this, sure.
1:41:54
Whatever. This event was existed outside
1:41:57
time and being that there was no time, whatever it did, it had
1:42:02
the attribute of Timeless and eternal.
1:42:04
One number two, it was powerful enough to create a universe the
1:42:09
event. According to scientists, would
1:42:11
still have the source and the origin existing alongside like
1:42:15
an extension or an app for your phone along with the universe.
1:42:19
There's only one word that describes what that can possibly
1:42:23
be in our entire history as Humanity.
1:42:26
We call it. God, this is how Christians see
1:42:29
it. This is how we perceive that
1:42:31
that force of energy that Essence, all of life came from
1:42:36
that and if you think about it, that's what is also defined as a
1:42:39
miracle. Our entire universe is a
1:42:42
miracle. I my only I think my only refute
1:42:47
and not really even like a sailing.
1:42:50
Oh yeah, there's no way. But, like, what if say, like a
1:42:55
god did trigger that. But like, what if it's like,
1:42:58
like a mentioned earlier, a god, we've never even conceptualized,
1:43:03
like, what if it's not the Christian God, it could be
1:43:05
something. We've never even heard of or,
1:43:07
um, or it could be Like, as some sort of entity that existed
1:43:14
back, then that no longer exists or like, I'm not really not the
1:43:20
Christian God, I'm just saying, like, what about these other
1:43:22
possibilities? Like, a different God or an
1:43:27
unknown entity, or maybe a past entity, that's no longer around.
1:43:31
Like, what about those possibilities?
1:43:34
It's, it's valid speculation for sure.
1:43:37
And I understand that means Smoky, we are the type of guys.
1:43:41
Obviously, I was a former atheist.
1:43:43
I looked into a lot of different religions.
1:43:45
I didn't just flip a coin and say, all right, Christina is the
1:43:48
way to go. In fact, I hated the idea of
1:43:50
becoming a Christian, even if it turned out that the Christian
1:43:53
God was, right. I didn't want to be a part of
1:43:55
the Christian Association because I didn't like some of
1:43:59
the history of it. However, um, one of the things
1:44:02
that is distinctive about like, Christianity in the Bible is
1:44:07
this God, according to the Bible goes on about how the universe
1:44:11
actually works. It talks about how things are,
1:44:14
you probably heard the concept, fine-tuned it talked about how
1:44:17
it created the beginning of the universe.
1:44:19
And it was a Catholic priest who actually came up with the
1:44:23
scientific theory of the Big Bang.
1:44:24
Did you know that? I did not know that.
1:44:29
Yeah, he he put together the theory and the idea and just to
1:44:33
make sure that he wasn't getting his numbers and his mathematics.
1:44:37
Right. He went to Albert Einstein who
1:44:39
wasn't the Christian whatsoever and Albert Einstein did whatever
1:44:43
he could jab holes in it and knock the hell out of it.
1:44:46
And then finally Einstein came out and he said such quotes as
1:44:50
the more I study science. The more I believe in God And I
1:44:54
have heard that quote that I have read that quote.
1:44:58
I know that quote, I did not know that was attributed to you
1:45:02
know, Catholic priests Catholic, who just ate a came up with the
1:45:07
theory of the Big Bang. Right.
1:45:10
There's a Catholic priest and did it and the first person who
1:45:14
ever even invented the word science and itself was
1:45:18
Christians, I believe the guy was named Frederick bacon, I
1:45:23
believe that just came up with the very Concept in the
1:45:25
definition of the, the working process of Science and
1:45:29
repeatable, patterns, and consistency and all that.
1:45:33
Let me try one other thing, aren't you?
1:45:35
Because I gave you the all-powerful and I gave you
1:45:38
powerful enough to create the Universe.
1:45:40
I gave your Timeless, but I was like the big question is, yeah.
1:45:43
But what about the mind and the Consciousness?
1:45:46
Where does this come from, right?
1:45:50
All right. so like the concept, so the Consciousness and like
1:45:55
the mind of God, so to speak man, it's the way I view that is
1:46:02
like, if we're talking about the Christian God, I have read the
1:46:05
Bible, by the way, I've read a lot of religious texts, and I
1:46:08
still do sometimes and From what I understand God.
1:46:12
And I'm not saying like Jesus, but specifically God in his
1:46:17
original like in his OG form. He To me, I actually heard
1:46:23
Christians put it like this. Um, there's no way he's so
1:46:28
Almighty and so powerful and he's so eternally like I'm
1:46:33
nipotent that it's hard to even grasp like, It's hard to grasp
1:46:42
but God could be thinking or how he thinks or the way he thinks
1:46:47
or like why he does the things he does.
1:46:48
So to speak or like like when people say like Oh The Book of
1:46:52
Job, how could God do that to job?
1:46:54
And I'm like, well, if I was in God's shoes, well, I look at it
1:46:57
like this. Or the Holocaust or whatever,
1:47:00
it's like well um we're humans and we do bad things to each
1:47:05
other. We have the free will to do so
1:47:06
but like the Reason God would let these things happen is a
1:47:10
like we don't know his reason because we are not him, like
1:47:16
we're just human beings. We're just creatures on Earth
1:47:18
where it's like if God is real, the way he would think it would
1:47:22
be Beyond us. Like they're his reason for
1:47:24
things like God's plan. So to speak would be beyond our
1:47:28
understanding because he's a god.
1:47:30
And so it would be Beyond a mere human creatures understanding to
1:47:35
me. Do you ever find it weird?
1:47:38
Are you familiar with Carl Sagan?
1:47:40
Yes, I am. Yeah, I was sleep for those out
1:47:44
there that may not know. He was a stunt skeptic, he never
1:47:49
became a Christian. He died a step that and all
1:47:52
that. I love the man.
1:47:53
I thought he was great and had some good teachings.
1:47:55
I one of my favorite videos by him is Flatlanders.
1:47:58
If you ever get a chance, check that out.
1:48:00
But one of the things that he had said that was really
1:48:03
interesting is he said that we were children of star dust that
1:48:08
are elements and our Essence come from that.
1:48:11
Where does the Bible, what does God use in the Bible in order to
1:48:15
create us? Do you remember?
1:48:18
I think if I can remember in Genesis when he creates, Like
1:48:23
when he creates Adam and Eve so to speak, does he say, doesn't
1:48:27
it? Doesn't he use like the stars or
1:48:30
like the dust from the universe to create man and woman?
1:48:37
Yes, he uses a material from the earth, which is a dust from the
1:48:41
Earth Earth where like from earthing clay.
1:48:43
That's all right, like? Well, the Muslims actually say
1:48:47
clay but the Christmas Bible actually uses the word dust.
1:48:51
I've actually read the crown as well.
1:48:53
I took an interest, I'm not as mean to the Muslims of some of
1:48:57
my Christian Brothers but I had a Muslim friend from Algeria and
1:49:03
like he was really cool. He actually loved Megadeth and
1:49:06
he played guitar, he seemed like a cool guy.
1:49:08
He was a devout Muslim and he was a cool guy, but man, I'm in
1:49:13
a few years ago, we were just talking and we'd make jokes and
1:49:16
stuff edgy jokes. But he started actually talking
1:49:18
about like, You know, hurting Jewish people and talking about.
1:49:23
Hey, man, if there's a Jew in my Village, I slit Us Frozen and
1:49:26
stuff. I had to quit talking to him.
1:49:29
We get a lot of Muslims who come into my room as well and they're
1:49:32
usually very kind and general people.
1:49:35
Unfortunately, unfortunately they they do speak of how they
1:49:39
think the world would be better if it was under surreal law.
1:49:42
And I asked them, you do realize that if Sharia law was all over
1:49:47
the world globally, most likely the extremists would be the ones
1:49:50
in power and you would probably be taken out.
1:49:53
So, what I and all the atheists and religious people is that
1:49:56
really what you want and they still haven't got around being
1:50:00
able to answer me on that. But I throw that out there from
1:50:04
time to time. I don't think a lot of them
1:50:05
won't answer that because they, you know, they believe what they
1:50:07
believe. And if you're going to be a
1:50:09
Muslim and you get, you have to, if you're going to be devout,
1:50:12
follow her of a religion, to me, I mean, you you can't have asset
1:50:17
and that's what they believe things, what they believe.
1:50:21
So I got something crazy for you.
1:50:23
We were talking about, okay, I gave you all these attributes
1:50:26
but we didn't really stabbed on the Consciousness.
1:50:29
Where did God's Consciousness come from?
1:50:31
You probably come from. Yeah, I was gonna throw the
1:50:35
stats here. Are you ready?
1:50:36
Yeah. Yeah.
1:50:37
Go for it. You, you agree that obviously,
1:50:39
it was it was either through nature or some intelligent
1:50:42
designer, why it is that you exist?
1:50:44
Why you yourself have developed the mind?
1:50:47
Now, if you were to believe it all or accept this Theory, the
1:50:51
scientists are saying where all the material from the universe,
1:50:54
including you, your existence comes from that pulsating
1:50:59
Singularity. Then why would it be difficult
1:51:01
to believe this? Listen very carefully?
1:51:04
If your mind, and your Consciousness comes from that
1:51:08
little Singularity, then why couldn't it be that a mind
1:51:11
existed within the singularity? Mmm.
1:51:15
Like yeah, that's actually a pretty good way to put a pretty
1:51:19
interesting question because Like yeah.
1:51:23
We're conscious, and we know we're speaking to each other
1:51:26
right now. I'm vaping.
1:51:28
I'm looking at my cat it. Yeah, that's an interesting
1:51:32
concept to me because it's like, well, before before life, so to
1:51:36
speak, or before conscious life, Uh, yeah.
1:51:39
What, how did that come about? It's like what was around to
1:51:43
create? Like, how do you just create
1:51:45
Consciousness? How do you create or how does
1:51:48
that happen? That's something.
1:51:50
I I personally cannot answer. I'm not a, I'm not really a
1:51:54
scientist. I'm not, I I don't try to claim
1:51:57
to be an expert on all that stuff, but that's a question I'm
1:52:02
sure. I have thought about it before,
1:52:04
but it's not something I have any definitive answer to After
1:52:09
looking into a lot of different religions, there's a lot of
1:52:12
religions out there, even paganism, I have pagans that
1:52:16
come in my room and stuff as well as talked, and they have a
1:52:19
lot of interesting Origins stories, they've got a lot of
1:52:21
neat ideas. Some of them are very similar to
1:52:24
my own and I have no problem with this but I did discover
1:52:29
that when you actually read the Bible, the Bible actually talks
1:52:32
to you about how God put the universe together and actually
1:52:35
explains to you. Why God did these things is
1:52:38
where if you were to, like, let's say, watch Kevin's,
1:52:41
horrible Hercules. It doesn't tell you where the
1:52:43
gods and originated, it just tells you, there's a guy up and
1:52:47
Mount Olympus who decided to fornicate with tons of human
1:52:51
women and then created children all over the world and she and
1:52:54
they just happened to be handsome and extremely powerful
1:52:57
beings, right? But it doesn't tell you how did
1:53:00
Zeus create the universe. How do you do this?
1:53:03
How did that? And that's what makes it
1:53:05
distinct of the Bible takes care of beginning to end our all
1:53:08
these Different concepts another issue, too.
1:53:11
I'll bring up. And then we can get into
1:53:13
whatever topic you want to as and a lot of places in the Book
1:53:18
of Daniel. And Isaiah it actually
1:53:21
prophesies that 1,000 years before.
1:53:23
Jesus Christ, even comes, that there will be a man, a messiah
1:53:27
who will come, he'll be crucified, you know, go through
1:53:30
all this torment, describes in detail, the different things
1:53:34
that he will do, and what he will basically do prophetically.
1:53:38
That's the reason why you can't find that in Hindu religion or
1:53:42
buddhism's almost like atheism, but it just adds meditation.
1:53:46
Yeah, that's actually a good way to put it.
1:53:49
I've had arguments with was people over boot isn't before.
1:53:52
Trust me. I have some thoughts about
1:53:54
business. There you go.
1:53:57
My my only designer besides hanging out making friends and
1:54:02
all that is just simply open people's mind.
1:54:05
I don't expect you to jump into the the closest church or
1:54:08
anything like that. Oh, he was expected to jump on
1:54:11
the label of Christianity. Just just continue to have a
1:54:14
good heart like you do and be open-minded about just that
1:54:18
there could be something up there and it's worth putting a
1:54:21
little bit of faith in I do. Like I said, I'm trying to be an
1:54:25
open-minded person because I don't just I don't just
1:54:27
emotionally reaction, you know. I don't just write stuff off
1:54:31
like you know, Jesus the concept of Jesus is pretty admirable
1:54:34
like whether he was a real person or a prophet or you know,
1:54:38
the Son of God. Like I mean there's nothing
1:54:41
wrong with like anything Jesus had to say.
1:54:43
In fact, it was like as an atheist or agnostic.
1:54:47
I, I can look at Jesus teachings and be like, yeah, to me, that's
1:54:51
common sense. So you should treat people the
1:54:53
way you'd want to be treated you.
1:54:56
Should help the poorer. You should help those who are
1:54:58
needy and you know, there's a good attributes.
1:55:00
There's nothing wrong with the concept of Jesus.
1:55:03
But oh, something I want to ask you is a, my friend, Peter
1:55:07
actually told me that since he's Ukrainian.
1:55:10
He, um, Taught me a lot about Slavic culture and I want to ask
1:55:15
you about this. This is connected to
1:55:17
Christianity. He himself is a pagan, he's a
1:55:22
Slavic polytheist. He believes in Slavic Gods
1:55:24
because he said growing up under communism.
1:55:28
He grew up in the USS in the USSR, actually, the Ukrainian
1:55:31
SSR and the Soviet Union. He said that though, it was
1:55:38
officially an atheist country. His mother was an Orthodox
1:55:43
Christian and his father was a Slavic polytheist Pagan.
1:55:47
And he said, after the fall of Communism, the fall of the
1:55:52
Soviet Union. He said, you know, religious
1:55:55
organization started to pop up and churches reopened and
1:55:59
synagogue's reopened and he said, in Orthodox Christianity
1:56:03
in in east Europe. There's a lot of blending of
1:56:08
Well Christianity and Jesus all of that but there's all so they
1:56:13
also integrated their ancient Slavic Pagan deity and ideals
1:56:19
and and rituals in with the Orthodox Christianity, what are
1:56:24
your thoughts about that? I think that what that with a
1:56:28
lot of different religions out there, there's definitely some
1:56:30
similarities and that's one of the reasons why it makes me
1:56:33
believe that any even stronger. A lot of atheists would probably
1:56:37
argue. Well, if Christianity is just
1:56:40
another religion. It's just another made-up thing
1:56:43
for me when I hear that millions of people throughout the dawn of
1:56:47
time have either evaluated some kind of experience, they feel,
1:56:51
they had or a vision or the similarities see.
1:56:55
I believe that one point in time that God actually divided
1:56:58
humanity and that's why Humanity Sprout out across the world.
1:57:01
And I think because of the different language is there, all
1:57:05
believing in some sort of way in the same God, they just have a
1:57:09
different or unusual name for due to their language and their
1:57:12
culture. But I do believe.
1:57:19
Um, yeah, I think that's pretty interesting way to put it
1:57:22
because I said it's like, they still have.
1:57:24
He said, where is in Western Europe?
1:57:27
Say, like, with the Celts when they were, they were
1:57:29
christianized. It was like War.
1:57:32
You had the pagans versus the Christians for hundreds of
1:57:35
years. Sometimes even a thousand years.
1:57:38
He said in east Europe. It wasn't.
1:57:39
I mean, maybe it was initially like that, but he said, after a
1:57:42
while it was just like the, you had straight up, you still had
1:57:46
like traditional pagans and you have like just Christians, but
1:57:50
then you have these Orthodox Christians who have who have
1:57:54
both like they kind of conjoin them.
1:57:57
He said like the the They're like in Little Villages and
1:58:06
Ukraine or Moldova Romania, I Russia, they'll celebrate these
1:58:11
Pagan or ceremonies and rituals and even the gods and have a
1:58:15
little like totems of the wooden carved totals of the different
1:58:20
pagan gods. But then the also have
1:58:22
celebration Christian celebrations and the name of
1:58:25
Jesus and the name of God and like, go to church and sometimes
1:58:29
they have both at the same time and it's like they said it's
1:58:32
this celebration of like the way they put in this like God.
1:58:38
created the universe and created the Earth and all that, but he
1:58:41
but but also, these other deities, these Slavic deities
1:58:46
were here to embody The Natural Spirit of the earth of like
1:58:53
different elements of the Earth or nature.
1:58:55
So to speak, if that's a pretty interesting way to put it
1:58:59
because like in other parts of the world it's usually like
1:59:01
completely split up like you get the pagans and you had the
1:59:05
Christians and they were at war with each other forever and it
1:59:09
seemed like there was a never-ending conflict with them
1:59:11
because that and with the Catholic Church they They would
1:59:15
you, they would make propaganda in the Medieval ages saying,
1:59:19
that will pagans are devil worshipers and they worship the
1:59:21
state they worship Satan, and it's just blah, blah.
1:59:26
And the pagans would go around and say, well, the Christians
1:59:30
are in foreign Invaders, a worship, a Jewish god, blah and
1:59:34
actually the Nazis used that very argument for that for their
1:59:38
assault, on the Jews. Um, so I think it's just like an
1:59:42
interesting thing to me because Like I see more Unity, more
1:59:47
religious unity amongst Slavic people and Balkan people that do
1:59:51
Western European or American. He actually had some Christian
1:59:56
brothers and sisters. He do believe that there's more
1:59:58
than one God, obviously they believe in the Supreme deity,
2:00:02
that created all things. But a lot of people that I've
2:00:06
talked to in the Christian faith and I, some people might call
2:00:10
them Heretics, but they believe that Angels actually came down
2:00:13
to the world and acted as Watchers and Guardians, and all
2:00:17
this kind of stuff. And, and that some people might
2:00:20
have actually looked up to them, like, they were Gods because
2:00:22
they were able to do Supernatural stuff.
2:00:24
Hey bubblegum, once you come in and hang out, dude, it's been a
2:00:27
long time man. You started making me feel
2:00:29
lonely and unloved. Get your ass in here and talked
2:00:32
to me, so you Could say in a way like Thor, for example, is like
2:00:36
an agent of God. Like, that's what some of them
2:00:39
believe. I don't know about Thor's
2:00:42
specifically for pretty vendors movie, but I'm not, I'm not
2:00:46
really sure if anybody taking, you know, I'm talking about like
2:00:49
the ancient paying like I in a way that sort of what slobs
2:00:54
believe like, they believe like the gods, so to speak, like,
2:00:57
paroon, and Zara, and Lada, and you're in a Slavic East European
2:01:02
religion. They, they believe some of the
2:01:04
Orthodox, Christian believe, believe that they are agents of
2:01:07
God, and that they are Gods themselves but they are, they
2:01:10
are like, there's God and Jesus in the, you know, the Holy
2:01:14
Ghost, but there's the Slavic Gods.
2:01:17
Like some of them believe, like the Slavic, gods were actually
2:01:19
agents of God to hear on Earth to basically, To represent
2:01:26
elements of nature like a way in a way.
2:01:30
So we have to maintain almost like a reverence for nature to
2:01:34
reverence for creation. So to speak as opposed to just
2:01:38
like some Christians will condemn like Earthly, you know,
2:01:43
thinking in an Earthly way like oh, you know, here on Earth
2:01:48
doesn't matter. So to speak where it's like some
2:01:50
of the Slavic Orthodox Christians.
2:01:52
They'll be like no, the Earth does matter.
2:01:53
You these gods represent the different elements of earth but
2:01:57
they were brought here by God It's a, it sounds a little
2:02:01
convoluted but it's just a different way of viewing it.
2:02:05
Viewing religion that I've then I have traditionally heard from
2:02:09
a lot of Christians as here in the south You know, they tend to
2:02:13
be more just like, everything's basically Satanism.
2:02:16
If it's not Christianity. Know, right?
2:02:20
Like I said, I've, I get along with.
2:02:22
I've had satanists come in the room, and I get along with them,
2:02:25
just fine. If actually had some pretty,
2:02:27
let's say, say mentally stimulating conversations with
2:02:33
them. So, I don't know you.
2:02:36
I interviewed a man named Zack black, who was a pretty high
2:02:39
ranking member of the Church of Satan and the town of black.
2:02:42
He's cool. Yeah, I interviewed him a long
2:02:45
time ago, we actually got along over music, he's a pretty chill
2:02:49
guy, you know, and they were pretty nice to me and I just
2:02:52
told him I told him. Hey I'm not in any way
2:02:55
religious. I don't you know, have any
2:02:57
rituals on my own. I don't even follow like you
2:03:00
know, the Church of Satan or anything like that but I'm just
2:03:02
I interviewed them the same way. I'm interviewing you or talking
2:03:06
to you and he was friends with him for years.
2:03:08
He was a cool guy. He me and him are still friends
2:03:12
and all that. He got a little irritated at me
2:03:15
a couple times though because I seen during the time he was
2:03:19
drinking a lot. Yeah.
2:03:21
And I said Zach, you're a, you're a fantastic guy, you're
2:03:25
extremely intelligent. I said, but that's just gonna
2:03:27
kill you, man. You gotta go down on that and he
2:03:31
goes, Brad. I appreciate you like doing, you
2:03:34
know, saying all this. But you know, man, I got my own
2:03:37
thing. This is the way I'm gonna live
2:03:38
my life and I said, I just don't want to see die brother, don't
2:03:41
want to see. No.
2:03:43
Dude. Yeah, I've I actually even, I'm
2:03:46
just 32 and I cut down drinking about four or five years ago
2:03:49
because it was killing me. I was just in a bad place and I
2:03:52
was you using the medicate myself, which is not the thing
2:03:55
to do. So, I don't even drink like
2:03:57
whiskey or hard liquor anymore. I have a few beers if I do
2:04:00
drink. Um, so yeah, I hope you
2:04:03
understand. I'm not some kind of stuff or
2:04:05
whatever. Like, you better not have you
2:04:08
drink or something. Oh, yeah, somebody drinking like
2:04:11
a fucking fish. It's like, dude, you don't, I
2:04:14
don't want to see you kill yourself kind of thing.
2:04:16
Yeah. Because we just lost, I mean, we
2:04:18
lost tubes because he was just two years older than me and
2:04:22
that's heartbreaking. You know, I hated seeing that.
2:04:25
And now I always want to help people.
2:04:26
If I feel like I can, you know, with that, um I wish people
2:04:29
would have been more with king cobras you mentioned.
2:04:33
I wish people would have been more supportive and kind to him
2:04:37
even as parents mentioned in an article recently that he was
2:04:40
bullied constantly. Yeah.
2:04:42
And the trolls would send him more and more alcohol, didn't
2:04:46
they realize he had Asperger's and he had disability.
2:04:49
He didn't deserve to be done like that.
2:04:50
People should have should have showed him some love.
2:04:53
I always tried to encourage him to do other stuff.
2:04:56
Like, if I caught a stream of a, Hey Brother, let's hear that
2:04:59
guitar, you know, let's let's play some guitar.
2:05:02
Let's talk, let's talk metal. You know, let's talk about
2:05:04
Aussie, talk about, talk about, black metal, or whatever, you
2:05:07
know, he loved Cradle of Filth and Emperor and stuff.
2:05:10
And so he like he was a big black metal fan.
2:05:12
And was like, let's not drink, man.
2:05:15
Let's maybe if you got some weed or something, instead, you know,
2:05:18
let's smoke some weed and talk about Metal like guitar and like
2:05:21
people were just, I never did that bullshit to him.
2:05:24
I couldn't to me that's despicable and it's usually the
2:05:27
same people who in real life would be like the biggest I want
2:05:31
to say virtuous signalers of like ableism or whatever and
2:05:35
it's like, yeah, you guys create this kid like shit, me, he died.
2:05:39
And what he drove into drink himself to death, it's it's
2:05:43
heartbreaking, you know? And and you know what, I'm gonna
2:05:46
say something good about been in regards to COBRA.
2:05:50
Ben has never done that to him, you know, been really liked
2:05:53
Cobra and he treated him with respect and he encouraged him to
2:05:57
play guitar and because Ben plays guitar.
2:05:59
And so, that's a nice thing I have to say about been, like, he
2:06:03
really did treat Cobra, like a human being.
2:06:05
And he, when Kobe was in the DP chat, we always had his back.
2:06:09
Nobody came in there and messed with them.
2:06:12
I I do gotta warn you about something.
2:06:14
I should have probably told you this at the beginning of the
2:06:17
show but in case you don't notice because you you made it
2:06:22
a, you've implied that it's been a little while since you watched
2:06:24
some of the stuff. The thing is, they do stream my
2:06:28
show and unfortunately, even though I've had some DP fans
2:06:31
have come in and had great conversations with them.
2:06:34
I guess Ben didn't know that they were fans of his or
2:06:38
whatever, and they made shows where they would call the person
2:06:41
on the screen an idiot. So, if you wave your hand and
2:06:44
say, Don't Shoot Me, Brother, you know, I'll just say this,
2:06:48
um, I'm a, I'm a fan of DP. I, I like been, I've had a few
2:06:54
pretty friendly conversations with him.
2:06:56
I'm a hold on my cats, just like up my ass.
2:06:59
I'm a fan of TJ. Pauly and come on, Kitty over
2:07:03
there. I'm a fan of Ben, I'm a fan of
2:07:06
TJ Paul and Scotty. I've had very fruitful
2:07:10
conversations with all of them. They've All been exceptionally
2:07:12
nice to me. I have Paul TJ and Scotty's
2:07:15
autographs actually on a poster. and, You know, Chelsea is very
2:07:20
nice to me. TJ's wife, she's very kind to
2:07:23
me. I know they don't I know they
2:07:24
probably wouldn't appreciate me talking about them on your show
2:07:27
but I have no bone to pick with me.
2:07:29
I talked. I Chelsea.
2:07:31
She's the girl that had blue hair in the past.
2:07:33
Yeah, she's she's blind. She just keeps a blonde now but
2:07:37
I have nothing bad. He actually came in on one of my
2:07:40
shows. Once she just kind of chilled
2:07:43
out, for about 30 minutes before announcing who she was.
2:07:46
And we were having a great conversation all that.
2:07:49
And she says, well, I'm I'm this person that person and she goes,
2:07:52
I know you're probably gonna say something mean about me now and
2:07:55
I said, you never did. Shut me.
2:07:56
You never giving me any kind of problem.
2:07:58
Why would I do that? I've seen some clips with you
2:08:01
and you and you seen like a real sweet heart.
2:08:03
I think TJ's very lucky to have you so you're welcome to come in
2:08:07
anytime you want. She's cool.
2:08:08
She never should talk to me or anything.
2:08:10
I think the way the world is today, everyone's the attention
2:08:14
is so high, everything so volatile.
2:08:16
I think I've personally tried to make An effort to be kinder to
2:08:20
people, to have more patience with people.
2:08:22
I used to be a bit more of a curmudgeon when I was younger.
2:08:24
And so like, and yeah. I mean, back in the DP days I
2:08:29
saw somebody, I know I said, like, some of it got a little
2:08:31
boring but like, yeah, I laughed at some of the bright Keen
2:08:34
segments and stuff. Some of it was pretty funny, the
2:08:36
manatee stuff was kind of funny early on, it just got old.
2:08:39
Um, but you, you do realize what I say to people whenever they
2:08:44
they bring up man at the Army, right?
2:08:46
I not you. You think it's funny.
2:08:50
This kind of pissed off a DP fan, though he goes.
2:08:53
Hey Brad. How do you feel about the
2:08:54
manatee thing? And I say I say, Do you believe
2:08:57
do you accept evolution? He goes.
2:08:59
Yeah and I said well then that means you're related to a
2:09:01
fucking Manatee you. And since I'm the king of
2:09:06
manatees, they put a crown on my foot.
2:09:09
I I certainly you serve me now, I own you my baby.
2:09:13
You're my mini Manatee. I joke around people.
2:09:16
I joke around with people and I used to South Park analogy where
2:09:20
we're a bunch of retarded fish frogs.
2:09:24
And it's like, where you know what I do when I get the mean
2:09:27
the mean ass DP fans, right? I do this on him when they
2:09:31
scream at me. Oh, retard.
2:09:33
Alert retard, alert glass. That's amazing.
2:09:40
I love that actually. Um, so like yeah, I just say
2:09:45
like there's enough volatility. There's a I don't even know that
2:09:48
that's a word. I'm right now, I just enough
2:09:52
tension in the world and I try to be kind to people and give
2:09:55
people their time of day. And so, like, I have nothing to
2:09:59
say about you or TJ been Scotty Paul or any Chelsea, any Amelia
2:10:04
anybody they probably won't appreciate me, bringing them up
2:10:07
on the show, but like I'm a fan of theirs.
2:10:10
I don't have any bone to pick with you.
2:10:13
I'm just a curious person and if Ben's watching, hey man, I'm a
2:10:18
long time fan. I think I think I think you're
2:10:21
pretty funny and I'd like to smoke a joint with you sometime.
2:10:23
I hope this doesn't kill that possibility.
2:10:25
And same for TJ and Paul and them.
2:10:28
I'm not why I just don't want them streaming you.
2:10:31
And then pause and you and saying a bunch of ignorant,
2:10:34
shyt. I hope, I hope you're right in
2:10:37
here, actually, recogn So you don't get fucking Donald.
2:10:41
He does he does. I'll probably just laugh at it.
2:10:44
I can take a joke, you know. And um, I just Uh yeah, so I
2:10:50
just wanted to let you know that's where I'm coming from.
2:10:52
I'm not gonna be like, yeah, I've no, I don't know what DP
2:10:54
is. I don't know TJ.
2:10:56
You know, I'm just like, you know, I'm a fan of theirs but I,
2:11:00
you know, was a special lately because, um, with the one of the
2:11:05
reasons I wanted to come on was because actually, They were
2:11:10
firing in all cylinders talking about you and about the pimp
2:11:14
monk comments or the cobra stuff or I have please.
2:11:18
I'm sorry, dude, don't cut me off here but like, oh, you can
2:11:21
have anything you like they bring up and I have no knowledge
2:11:26
of this. I don't get into the dirt, I
2:11:28
have my own life, you know. But like the whoever Emily is, I
2:11:33
hear that stuff. And I'm like, No, maybe I could
2:11:36
ask for questions. Let's get, maybe I can get to
2:11:38
the bottom of some of this and we can just clear the air, you
2:11:41
know. Well, I asked anything you want.
2:11:45
And so basically like oh with the with Paul, I actually going
2:11:49
back to some of the questions. I know you explained your
2:11:52
relationship with TJ actually was gonna ask about that and you
2:11:54
answered it for me. What about Paul?
2:11:56
How do you and where did you? And Paul start off?
2:12:00
Hi, Paul was it's like I Don't Have You Ever Seen The Amazing
2:12:05
Atheist tribute video before? Creepy video.
2:12:10
I don't can't say I have If you go to the American, if you go to
2:12:15
the amazing Arc of this his channel, it's on his own
2:12:19
channel. But I also put a copy of it on
2:12:21
my radio. I've seen it was probably a long
2:12:23
time ago. I still watched I still watching
2:12:25
but like some of its lost a memory or lost a time for me
2:12:29
would a DP, they recovered it because they wanted to embarrass
2:12:32
TJ with it. TJ made a video a while back.
2:12:36
When he first came to YouTube, and he basically said I was his
2:12:40
favorite atheist, I influenced him to be on the shows that I've
2:12:44
seen it. I know exactly what you're
2:12:45
talking about. It was funny watching his ass
2:12:49
squirm whenever he had to rewatch and I remember, yep.
2:12:54
I didn't put him up for that. I don't know if you realize this
2:12:59
but when I seen him as young man hanging out in this fucking
2:13:03
garage and shit and quivering back and forth and talking, I
2:13:07
seen him as like a brother at that time, I just totally
2:13:11
connected with him and I told everybody that was subscribed to
2:13:14
me. I had been on for a year before
2:13:16
him. I had a mass, a great deal
2:13:18
subscriber. So I said you all need to go
2:13:20
over and subscribe. This fucking guy.
2:13:21
You need to connect with them. He's gonna be something one of
2:13:25
these days. He's gonna be a big deal.
2:13:26
I never knew with all of my health issues, if I was gonna
2:13:29
last very long. I always had this thing in the
2:13:33
back of my mind, something could happen to me any day, and I hope
2:13:36
that somebody's able to take my position a spot.
2:13:39
And I seen him as a guy and I told him that he said this, this
2:13:42
is the motherfuker. You want to watch and listen to.
2:13:45
So as far as Paul's ego, Paul is almost kind of the same deal.
2:13:52
He was watching me and said, and atheist would come to me and
2:13:56
they would tell me. Hey Brett, can you plug this
2:13:59
channel? Can you advertise?
2:14:00
This is a real small. So, somebody gave me Paul, I
2:14:05
went over and I seen that he had a couple videos about me and it
2:14:08
was really positive, really cool.
2:14:09
And I went through his entire Channel and listened to him.
2:14:13
I was like this fucking guys are taking ladies intelligent.
2:14:16
He's got a lot of shit going for him, right ahead and I made a
2:14:20
fucking video and all that. And I said up Paul, if you ever
2:14:23
want to talk to me, I'd love to be able to talk to you
2:14:25
one-on-one. Have a conversation.
2:14:27
Well he for him. It was like the way you get
2:14:32
autographs from those guys for them at that time, it was like
2:14:36
they were looking up at a superstar now.
2:14:38
I didn't Ever represent myself as being a legend or a superstar
2:14:43
that's just the name. They gave me.
2:14:45
So I ended up going hanging out with him and sticking him and
2:14:48
Skype. I don't know if you Skype or
2:14:50
anything. Oh, long time ago.
2:14:53
So me and Paul talked. First conversation, we had was
2:14:56
really fucking awkward. I'm like, hey is this a?
2:15:00
Is this Paul? And he's like, he's moving
2:15:03
around, like, he's talking and I said, dude, your mics not?
2:15:05
It's muted. You gotta unmute yourself and he
2:15:09
goes, oh my God. I'm talking to Brett Keane and
2:15:11
I'm like, what? You're not an atheist, anywhere
2:15:13
he goes what? And I see just God and he
2:15:16
laughed his ass off and he goes, hold on.
2:15:18
Just for one second, dude. Just hold on.
2:15:19
And he brought his wife and she's like, who he talked to
2:15:23
heels, it's fucking Brett, King the fucking guy, you know, I was
2:15:27
like, wow. So you both actually watched my
2:15:30
shit and stuff I I joked at him and I said, you know, my videos
2:15:35
curing. You write fucking sleep.
2:15:38
So we got along and we did really great.
2:15:41
We were, we were tight shit and I got to talk to TJ and you all
2:15:46
this and we connected. We were good friends.
2:15:48
Well, one day in, I I want it to log in and I found that the
2:15:56
website was having issues so I created a new fucking user ID,
2:16:00
real quick. Something stupid, I don't even
2:16:01
recall what I call it but it wasn't Brett King.
2:16:05
When I created it. I see that a user by the name of
2:16:08
the Mendham. Have you ever heard of that guy?
2:16:10
Yes, I have. He's an old school guy.
2:16:13
Yeah. So Mendham, I really enjoyed
2:16:16
immense videos. I, I liked him.
2:16:18
He was a anti-natalist and like a fucking doomsday type of
2:16:23
atheist, but I I liked his philosophy back then I felt like
2:16:27
me and him were in the same page.
2:16:30
So I would go into his room and he would go get the fuck out of
2:16:33
my room, you fat piece of shit and all that.
2:16:35
And I go, well, I still love your videos and I'm still
2:16:38
telling people to go, subscribe to you and he goes, I don't give
2:16:41
a fuk, I don't need you and all this, and I go.
2:16:42
Okay, fine. So I realized if I come in the
2:16:45
immense room under Brett King, I'm gonna get kicked the fuck
2:16:49
out or yelled at. So, I started coming in under
2:16:51
that bullshit again, so I can just listen to him, right?
2:16:55
And I just wanted to hear what he had to say.
2:16:57
I know some people say, Brett what a bitch.
2:16:59
You're actually had to change your ID because he kicking fuck
2:17:02
out. Yeah.
2:17:02
Yeah, one day I'm sitting there and Paul gets up on the screen
2:17:07
and I'm like, oh no I didn't say anything cuz I didn't want him
2:17:10
to know. I was in the room but I wanted
2:17:12
to say Paul, get the fuck out of there.
2:17:14
You still have your answer attached.
2:17:20
It and Paul does Paul, right? He's like, hey everybody, what's
2:17:24
going on? You know, and his fucking deep
2:17:26
voice and amend them goes. Are you still hanging out that
2:17:29
fucking loser? Brett.
2:17:30
King and amend them says not have been them.
2:17:33
But Paul says, well, I think Brett King makes some good
2:17:37
points and all that. I'm just sitting back listening
2:17:39
and and the other atheists they start getting on his ass and
2:17:42
shit. How is Brett Keane?
2:17:44
Even popular. He's such a fat bitch and all
2:17:46
this and I'm like, wow! Holy shit!
2:17:49
I'm just sitting back listening. I'm like honey, you might want
2:17:53
to get the mac and cheese situation.
2:17:55
It's about to get fucked up in here.
2:17:57
Exactly, exactly. So I'm sitting back and I'm
2:18:03
listening and at this point you got a realize I can considered
2:18:07
Paul brother and I never would have suspected after having the
2:18:10
conversations that did with him and his wife.
2:18:12
This was going to happen but he was under pressure.
2:18:15
There was a bunch of atheists who were envious of The Amazing
2:18:19
Atheist, they hated him. They Hated me and they hated
2:18:22
fake Sagan. I don't know if you know.
2:18:24
Yeah. So Paul unfortunately, You can
2:18:30
see him kind of trembling, he wanted to get along with the
2:18:33
other non-believers and it goes. You're right.
2:18:35
You know. Brett, keen's a fucked up and
2:18:38
everything like that. Yeah, it is what it is.
2:18:39
I'm just wanting to get some subscribers and Views and all
2:18:43
that. He's, he's nothing to me.
2:18:44
Sounds like, oh, well, in that nice.
2:18:47
So I, I left the room and said, after about 15 minutes to listen
2:18:52
to a few more insults. And I said, well, I can't trust
2:18:55
him now, he didn't know I was in there but he tried contacting me
2:19:00
on Skype. He tried getting a hold of me
2:19:01
and all this kind of shitty, did not know that I had heard that
2:19:04
whole conversation. I didn't I don't know how to put
2:19:07
this but it broke my heart and I just didn't want to hear him.
2:19:11
Why did me? I didn't want to hear him.
2:19:12
Bulshit me. I was like, fuck.
2:19:14
I gave him all these subscribers and viewers and now he's He's
2:19:18
doing this to me so she should have said to me just fucking
2:19:22
thinking about it right now. Can we question?
2:19:25
It's been like a bitter sweet little relationship, so to
2:19:28
speak, or Bittersweet to clean his ship over.
2:19:30
Was, it was a beautiful relationship until that day.
2:19:34
Yeah, he was a nice as coolest fucking guy, he's ever talked
2:19:38
to, and until that happened. The only my only and I don't
2:19:44
want to come make this be like awful and all of Polly.
2:19:48
He's fantastic. I watch, that's cool.
2:19:50
If you can be friends, whoever you want this?
2:19:52
Isn't it like high school or something or no.
2:19:54
Oh, no. I was just gonna say like I used
2:19:57
to talk to him a lot on his ideologies and, you know, but I
2:20:02
want to say it's probably for the past years.
2:20:04
So like anytime I jump on his stream, I'm like hey man, what's
2:20:08
up? And we're talking about whatever
2:20:09
and I'm just staying on topic. I've never been banned.
2:20:12
I've never been, he's never gotten on to me or anything, but
2:20:15
it seemed like the last. Like the last year I have not
2:20:19
gotten a word out of him like he won't, he like skip Hill.
2:20:23
I know he has a lot of chat. You know a lot of people in
2:20:26
chat. It's like he'll skip my stuff
2:20:28
and always go to his mods or like these new people and like
2:20:31
I'm like hey man, I've been watching for like 15 years.
2:20:34
Can I get a question out, you know?
2:20:38
So I I'd be honest with you, I kind of quit watching Audiology
2:20:41
after a while just because I felt like it was ignoring some
2:20:44
of his older fans but I still enjoy them.
2:20:47
I think he's very insightful and he's really funny and I'll still
2:20:51
pop into high his ideology or he'll, you know, dff of course.
2:20:55
But I think he's hilarious but that's I don't really have a
2:21:00
gripe with him. It's just that like, I felt like
2:21:02
for a while. He was sort of ignoring his fans
2:21:07
for like some of the new people or some of the mods he gathered
2:21:10
over the years. I don't take it personally, it
2:21:13
was just like, well, I, you know, I'm not gonna waste my
2:21:15
time, you know? So I just kind of moved on but I
2:21:19
really Why I hope you can understand that.
2:21:23
I mean, look at you and I right now we're having a great
2:21:25
conversation and I'm really hoping that you participate in
2:21:29
future shows that we did. But what if two days later, you
2:21:33
catch me on a show, and I go and it fucking bum.
2:21:37
I was talking to he wanted to blow me so bad and Gobble on my
2:21:39
balls. You'd be fucking pissed, right?
2:21:41
You know. That's okay.
2:21:43
You're saying that's what Paul did you?
2:21:45
I understand. Yeah.
2:21:46
All right. Just long.
2:21:48
As you understand, I didn't want that shit to go down the tube
2:21:51
but that's what happened. Um, if I can ask some more
2:21:55
questions here, just something about the Emily thing, that's
2:22:00
one of the questions. You wondered.
2:22:02
Sure. Just a clear some area.
2:22:04
That's one of the things I did want to ask about because I
2:22:07
actually wasn't originally one of the questions I want to ask
2:22:09
but people bothered me about it and like because they you know
2:22:14
been saying something and these people are saying something and
2:22:18
then you know, I don't like I said I don't drive through
2:22:21
people's personal business myself.
2:22:23
I'm not a kiwi Farms guy or anything.
2:22:25
I just like laughing at Deep Fat fried and drunken peasants and
2:22:30
just having a good time. But like the more I was gonna
2:22:34
interview you regardless, but I felt obligated to ask about who
2:22:38
Emily was and if the things been is saying is true or the back,
2:22:43
some background on that or some details that may have been left
2:22:47
out because they're accusing you of Some things some, you know,
2:22:54
you probably already know. Well, I know because he drunken
2:22:59
peasants been actually, he posted some shit to me over on
2:23:03
Twitter and all that some messages apparently from a five
2:23:07
or six year old post that supposedly somebody, he knew was
2:23:11
having a discussion with this person.
2:23:12
I don't recognize Emily. That is my son.
2:23:15
That is in the picture. People have to understand that I
2:23:19
am 48 years old, I'm gonna be 49 Christmas December.
2:23:23
Ladies and gentlemen, my son moved out between 17 and 18
2:23:29
years old. He's been living in his own
2:23:32
home. We just gave him a new truck
2:23:33
recently and all that. He's been in a committed
2:23:36
relationship with a female for about five years back.
2:23:40
Whenever he lived with us, there were times where he dated a lot
2:23:45
and a lot of different females, my brother.
2:23:47
He's a fucking rock star so he's constantly had girls, you know,
2:23:51
Honestly you know what? It's like to be a fucking rock
2:23:53
guy. My son, though whenever he lived
2:23:58
with me and a teenage age, we didn't want him to have anybody
2:24:03
going into his bedroom at all. The reason, why is we have
2:24:08
family members? And we know people where they
2:24:11
got pregnant early in life and had to pay child support for the
2:24:14
rest of their fucking existence, somebody like that right now.
2:24:18
So fucking life. Yeah, so, for me, when I hear
2:24:23
that supposedly, Brett Keane, standing behind a fucking
2:24:26
doorway. He's like the Shadow and the
2:24:28
night of things, I didn't understand.
2:24:30
I didn't want to exactly say that, you know, put it that way.
2:24:34
I know you, I know most likely you would think that that's
2:24:37
absolute horseshit. You probably would ask the
2:24:39
question. Well, how would anybody even
2:24:41
know who's Shadow? This is or that?
2:24:43
Yeah, he was. Is that the door would have
2:24:45
never been shut. There is no sex with teenagers
2:24:48
and my fucking house. My daughter doesn't get to do
2:24:51
that. I told my daughter and son, it
2:24:53
was when they were young, whatever you choose to do,
2:24:55
you're going to have to wait until you're paying your own
2:24:57
bills. You got Joan roof over your head
2:25:00
and then you can do whatever the hell you want and don't get any
2:25:03
girl, knocked up. Because if you do, you're going
2:25:05
to be responsible for that baby and she said, and we're going to
2:25:09
make sure you do, that's the way we raise.
2:25:11
We raise our children that if they ever get somebody pregnant
2:25:15
or whatever, they gotta, they gotta be responsible for us
2:25:18
there, right? That's right.
2:25:21
You want to say hello real quick?
2:25:23
I don't know thinking here because it's a condenser mic.
2:25:26
Hello. I'm here.
2:25:30
How are you were able to hear? A faintly.
2:25:35
Well, that's, that's my beautiful wife.
2:25:37
He had to kind of come closer to make You getting ready to take a
2:25:43
shower, baby, you want me in there right now?
2:25:46
Oh, Yeah. There you go.
2:25:53
See that's my wife. She said, hello.
2:25:55
That is Dawn, not dawn. The legendary Dawn.
2:26:01
Yeah. We've been married for how long.
2:26:07
Oh my goodness. I spent a long time and you
2:26:10
still putting up with my dumbass.
2:26:13
Hey, there you go. I gotta admit it.
2:26:19
Some of these rumors that people put out there, oh, brought me
2:26:22
into his wife and his kids and all that.
2:26:24
They have not met my wife before.
2:26:26
She would Jack, my power bomb my ass through a fucking table like
2:26:29
a WWE match. Yeah, one of the things back in
2:26:33
the day, back in like the hide a DP.
2:26:35
I would hear a lot and forgive me for this but like What would
2:26:39
be like, I think was mostly been doing this, but it'd be like the
2:26:44
water head joke, or something like that.
2:26:47
Remember, I explained to you that my daughter was born with
2:26:50
meningitis? That led the supplies?
2:26:52
Yeah, well, back in the back. In the old days, they referred
2:26:55
to the condition, as a less scientific nature.
2:26:58
They would call it water on the brain.
2:27:01
So when you hear them calling my daughter that bullshit, that's
2:27:05
what they're doing. Oh yeah.
2:27:07
I mean, yeah, I mean, back in the back in the height of DP,
2:27:12
they didn't give much of a fuk about.
2:27:15
Hey, anything, did they? And they don't seem to have
2:27:19
grown any moral stems at this point either?
2:27:22
No, I mean like What are the part of the appeal to me of DP
2:27:26
back in the day? It was at, like, I really like
2:27:28
that, it really was just seemingly free speech like
2:27:31
unhinged comedy show and they would make fun, everybody.
2:27:35
Almost seemingly equal equally, like they made fun of leftists
2:27:38
and other atheist. And, you know, and I was just
2:27:41
like you, I like this. I like the chaotic nature of the
2:27:44
show. It's really funny, but like I
2:27:46
said, the breaking segments. Like, I never really got that
2:27:50
last onto that. Like, I didn't have any real
2:27:52
beef with you. I didn't have any, I mean to be
2:27:55
offered. I didn't really have one way.
2:27:56
I didn't think one way or the other about it most of the time
2:27:59
because that seemed like their thing, you know.
2:28:01
And so whenever they would make jokes like that, I just kind of
2:28:05
like okay, you know, let's get onto the next segment
2:28:07
personally. Hey shit, biscuit.
2:28:11
How you doing? I don't know if that's the real
2:28:12
one. What's going on there?
2:28:15
Just say hello, man. Say how to bin for me, dude.
2:28:20
I don't know if it's a real shit biscuit or not.
2:28:22
Hey, Jill. If you want to come in and chat
2:28:26
with this, it's always a pleasure to have a conversation
2:28:28
with you as well. Come on in.
2:28:30
Sorry about that. They got people.
2:28:32
People love to listen to my damn voice but you need to come in
2:28:35
and be a guest dammit. You know how it is.
2:28:37
Oh okay. I have an idea.
2:28:40
Do you want me to play a play a song real quick?
2:28:43
Sure it was there. Anything else you wanted to know
2:28:45
about the, do you feel so? I answered you appropriately
2:28:49
properly with the Emily thing. Oh, okay.
2:28:53
I mean, yeah, pretty much. It's just that like I was, you
2:28:56
know how, with the serious nature of like, what they're
2:29:01
accusing you of, and they're saying this, it seems like
2:29:04
they're really like a All right. I wanted to get to the bottom of
2:29:08
that because they're accusing you of a lot of things and they
2:29:11
said that like one of the things Ben has said was that Emily said
2:29:15
your house was dirty and had cockroaches and stuff like that
2:29:18
and like how you were living and the thing about the door and I
2:29:24
just like it's not a personal thing.
2:29:26
I have any investment in myself, as just one of those things
2:29:29
where I told people were pressing me about it and I told
2:29:33
him, I'd ask you and you don't have to, you don't have to
2:29:36
defend yourself. I'm sure that you probably heard
2:29:38
the worst possible shit you could possibly do living on a
2:29:41
roach motel probably internet. Probably get my internet from a
2:29:45
rusty, hanger and a fucking dead hamster in a wheel and just
2:29:49
everything's horrible. I get it.
2:29:50
I get it. Now, I don't recall this, the
2:29:54
female like I said, my son has been out since 17, 18 years old
2:29:58
and if you want to validate that, you can actually go on my
2:30:02
radio. He's done a couple videos with
2:30:04
me, and we've actually discussed that.
2:30:06
So you can hear from his mouth if you want to.
2:30:09
All right, for me sure. I'm gonna play an acoustic
2:30:13
Marilyn Manson song because I think the core choices are
2:30:16
pretty cool. I like I said, anybody watching,
2:30:18
I cannot sing or and if I could, I can't sing and play at the
2:30:23
same time, so it's not something I can do and just a guitarist.
2:30:25
But I'll play the last day on Earth by Marilyn Manson just
2:30:29
because I think it's a really good acoustic piece.
2:30:31
I usually do Madonna Wayne Gacy's keyboard intro on the
2:30:36
guitar because in the recording, you spend playing a piano.
2:30:40
But I'll do that. Let's see.
2:30:41
Let's see. Well,
2:32:56
here, you Pretty cool man. Pretty cool.
2:33:00
The last day on Earth by Marilyn, Manson is often
2:33:04
Mechanical Animals album. They do more of an electric
2:33:07
thing on the album but I do the live version which is acoustic.
2:33:11
There's a little solo thing. I was playing was actually
2:33:14
Stephen beer Madonna Lane Gacy's a keyboard Solo in the middle.
2:33:19
And the beginning was like the piano intro he would do, but I
2:33:23
did it on the guitar. But yeah that's the last day on
2:33:28
Earth by Marilyn Manson. I thought Jan that out a little
2:33:30
bit since I hadn't played in a minute and I know you want me to
2:33:33
hear me. Yeah, that's cool, man.
2:33:36
Cool. Getting more questions for me.
2:33:39
Oh, actually regarding music. Going back to music on a more
2:33:44
philosophical note. With I actually wanted to ask
2:33:49
you specifically about Industrial Music because of the
2:33:51
father track you made of like what industrial bands inspired
2:33:56
you. Well, I don't know if you would
2:33:59
consider this, but I like to bands like some diced.
2:34:03
I don't know if you would consider that industrial, but I
2:34:06
like Nine Inch Nails. I love to understand being a
2:34:11
keyboardist and all that I really was into the sound
2:34:13
effects and crazy shit like that.
2:34:15
I absolutely love. I saw Nine Inch Nails.
2:34:17
I was crying, dude, I was in tears because like that music
2:34:20
means a lot to me like on a personal note, like Nine Inch
2:34:24
Nails and Marilyn Manson like, you know, whatever you want to
2:34:28
believe aside, you know, that their music was kind of there
2:34:31
for me, you know? So I love Industrial Music and I
2:34:34
love the effects and the keyboards and all that.
2:34:37
Let me see if I can find something for you real quick.
2:34:41
I don't know if I still have it. So you were inspired a lot by so
2:34:44
you were listening to DSi who I mentioned earlier.
2:34:49
Yeah. Yeah that was a long time ago
2:34:52
back in time of like bands like Sanctuary like that.
2:34:55
Oh yeah. So like yeah, that's the band.
2:34:58
I brought up earlier when I said Brian Hoffman the guitar player
2:35:01
in Sultan my friend for being Christian.
2:35:04
Oh and I told him you know hey look you got replaced by a
2:35:07
castle guitarist. I'm sorry, you have mentioned
2:35:13
you had mentioned father earlier right?
2:35:16
Yeah yeah. Okay, so there's gonna be some
2:35:19
people out here who may not enjoy this, but this is a remake
2:35:24
of the song, and I'm going to warn people, this was back, the
2:35:28
lyrics for written back in the day.
2:35:30
Whenever I was an atheist. However, I know that the song
2:35:33
took off and everything like that and people said, I should
2:35:36
always remake it. You're gonna be the first person
2:35:39
to ever hear the remake of. This, this might end up on one
2:35:42
of the CDs in the future. Are you ready?
2:35:44
That'll be awesome. I would love that.
2:35:46
Okay, here we go. 40 to Jesus Christ has given you
2:36:25
and say, Lord, I believe. What kind of father sends him,
2:36:31
watch his children, get molested sodomized and rapes.
2:36:37
What kind of father allows us children to starve to death?
2:37:39
I watched TV, I see the newest sisters with HIV churches.
2:37:53
Passing balls for money. I feel like,
2:38:55
Do you know the Holy Ghost will move on the inside?
2:39:21
And that's the Remake. You're the first one on the
2:39:24
Internet is had the opportunity to build here that the office
2:39:28
Lee other people are going to hear it now.
2:39:29
So sorry about the the whatever the fuck that squeaky noise was
2:39:34
I haven't been way file but that's too big for this stream.
2:39:38
Yard set. So I had to put an MP3.
2:39:40
I didn't know. It was fucked up like that.
2:39:41
Sorry. Hold on a second, your mic got
2:39:47
muted when the song played. Go ahead.
2:39:49
Oh yeah, yeah. No, that's okay.
2:39:51
I was gonna say what I was listening to a reminds me, a lot
2:39:54
of the German industrial band, kmfdm.
2:39:57
If you've listened to them. Yeah, it was telling your
2:40:00
earlier that one of The Inspirations.
2:40:02
Oh yeah, I love them. I actually was friends with
2:40:06
Sasha clients, go on Facebook, a long time ago.
2:40:09
And I was like, man, I love kmfdm.
2:40:11
It's got me through some hard times and all playing video
2:40:14
games, while listening to your music.
2:40:15
And he's like, hey man, if I'm ever around and out of, if I'm
2:40:19
playing a show near you, let me know.
2:40:20
I'll get you backstage. I was like hell yeah.
2:40:23
So people and people ask me nowadays, Brad, are you going to
2:40:26
do some singing and shit like that sometime in the music?
2:40:30
Because I've been having other vocalists, come in and all this
2:40:33
and do things. My brother does do we vocals for
2:40:36
black death? But he mostly just kind of, it's
2:40:39
more like recording studio type of stuff.
2:40:42
He comes. And does some guitar work.
2:40:44
But as far as that song, I've been kind of iffy about putting
2:40:48
it out on putting it. Yeah, yeah, I mean, that was a
2:40:54
long time ago and I put it together, but when I originally
2:40:56
put the song together, I knew it was good sound and but the
2:41:00
problem was, as I had always wanted metal guitars with that,
2:41:04
that song was just all fucking keyboards, the original one.
2:41:08
Yeah. And it just was me doing like a
2:41:10
bass line and some funky sound effects and shit with my voice.
2:41:14
And I always thought like it's it's, you know, how does you
2:41:18
listening you're old? You like, how this is, fucking
2:41:20
crap. What I actually did I did so I
2:41:24
had something similar actually I I mentioned on a wild a while
2:41:29
ago. Now I used to be in a death
2:41:30
metal band when I was a teenager and we wrote some pretty
2:41:32
disgusting lyrics. But whenever I was in my
2:41:35
twenties about 12 years ago actually I was in a I was in a
2:41:39
black middle band and I know a lot of black metals like satanic
2:41:42
and anti-christian and stuff, but I didn't want to be that.
2:41:45
I wanted to be more famous. He medieval almost like Legend
2:41:48
of Zelda top shit like nerdy shit.
2:41:49
And I took the lyrics from an old death metal song.
2:41:53
I had and I took all the Satan out of it and I took all the
2:41:57
anything to do is Christian, you know, anti-christian or satanic
2:42:01
or whatever or even modeling anti-semitic stuff I had in
2:42:05
there because You know, I was criticizing Judaism in an edgy
2:42:08
way at the time but I took the lyrics and I'm just reworked him
2:42:13
into this. Like medieval fantasy story
2:42:15
about like something from Zelda or something, you know, some
2:42:18
nerdy shit and so I made it less I made it more accessible to
2:42:22
people who Want to hear badass metal shit, but don't, you know,
2:42:26
I'm not a Satanist, you know, I didn't want to just be like,
2:42:28
yes, Satan Satan Satan, you know what I mean?
2:42:32
and so, I cleaned up some of my old lyrics actually because of
2:42:35
that because I wrote some pretty Angie stuff.
2:42:39
And I was young and I just wanted to have like more
2:42:41
meaningful lyrics When I got older.
2:42:43
So but I like the song so I just like kept the songs and reworked
2:42:46
the lyrics. Um, well, let me, let me show
2:42:50
you something a little bit more chill.
2:42:52
That is actually on the album tribulations.
2:42:56
Have you listened to that yet? I haven't yet.
2:42:59
No. Well, if you ever want to listen
2:43:01
to my music, my Five albums are posted towards the top of my
2:43:05
YouTube channel. You can listen to them all free
2:43:08
from beginning to end. The only people always ask me to
2:43:11
say, bro, why are you putting your music out there for
2:43:13
absolutely free? What are you fucking nuts?
2:43:15
Or something? Just a little bit but they're
2:43:17
all monetized. So if people wanted to use them
2:43:21
for their videos or whatever, I'll get paid for royalties.
2:43:24
You know how that works your musician.
2:43:26
But here's here's off the tribulation album, trials and
2:43:30
tribulations. Are you ready?
2:43:31
Yes sir. This isn't the crazy like the
2:43:34
other one. This is more kind of classic
2:43:37
soloing type of thing. Here you go.
2:43:39
This is my bro and I'm doing the keyboards.
2:45:09
There you go, that's all trials and tribulations for anybody out
2:45:13
there. Interested.
2:45:13
That's our, I believe that is the the girl with the black
2:45:18
hair. We got some photos of Angel type
2:45:21
women. It's hard to build describe them
2:45:23
because they're all every album have.
2:45:26
It's like an Angel cover with wings and dragons and shit.
2:45:31
Hold on, let me unmute it. Oh sorry about that, it does
2:45:34
that. Whenever I play song.
2:45:35
Oh, Zhang, you were lying. He could shred, dude.
2:45:38
Oh man. Those Melodies were amazing like
2:45:42
some Iron Maiden type. Shyt Alone, you get an
2:45:46
opportunity, I'm sure you'd really appreciate it.
2:45:48
You can add them on Facebook or else.
2:45:51
Go over this YouTube channel and say, dude fucking rocket, you
2:45:54
know, he does live performance isn't all that that kind of
2:45:57
irritates me. That's another thing that been
2:46:00
accused. As he says, we're ai, go over
2:46:02
and watch him, do it live, you know, damn well and shit that
2:46:06
that you can't fucking bulshit your way out of a live
2:46:09
performance. Not playing like that.
2:46:12
And I do, I actually want to ask you to say curiosity, do you
2:46:16
currently own a guitar because he said he used to play guitar.
2:46:19
You're more the keyboard guy, but do you still play?
2:46:23
I have some electric guitars, put up, I currently have an
2:46:26
acoustic guitar out um but I don't know if I want to pull it
2:46:32
out and so you don't have to pull it out.
2:46:34
You just tell me what they are. Oh let me see.
2:46:38
My brother actually brought this one by cuz he wanted to do some
2:46:41
acoustic work. What is that?
2:46:44
Fucking can't? I got to put on my glasses.
2:46:49
I mean, hold on a second. Let me go look at it because
2:46:51
it's gross fucking room. Oh, you're good.
2:47:06
Oh, it's a Yamaha. Yeah, I don't for me, I don't do
2:47:15
my guitar nowadays. It's mostly I stick with the
2:47:18
keyboards. Oh yeah, beautiful ESP.
2:47:22
That guitar you saw me playing the video was a ESP Horizon and
2:47:27
a LTD ESP Horizon. All love that guitar that
2:47:31
recently just got ruined because a I got knocked over or it, fell
2:47:36
actually off of it. Fell off of something in my old
2:47:39
bands, practice space, and snapped, the headstock off, and
2:47:43
I'm pretty good with repairing instruments, but it was fucked.
2:47:46
I couldn't, I just pulled all the electronics out.
2:47:48
I pulled the Floyd Rose tremolo out.
2:47:51
I just took what I could Salvage and I had to trash the body and
2:47:53
neck. and, and so, I I lost my ESP recently but I just got my
2:48:01
acoustic right now. I got a night 1957 Fender
2:48:04
Stratocaster over there. And oh I I was wanting to bring
2:48:08
something up as well. You had mentioned something
2:48:10
about cockroaches earlier. I don't know if you ever heard,
2:48:14
but I wouldn't mean that was something been said.
2:48:16
I know. I know I get it.
2:48:18
I used to crack a joke, though. I used to live in St.
2:48:22
Louis, before I moved out to the country and all that, and we did
2:48:25
live in a really fucking rough thing.
2:48:27
When I was growing up, and people would say, how rough was
2:48:30
it? Brad.
2:48:30
I said, well, let me put it this way.
2:48:32
When you walked in the house, the Cockroach, you know, the rat
2:48:35
Stills are fucking wallet. That was that was growing up
2:48:43
though. I have since obviously, you
2:48:46
know, evolved, that's the right word.
2:48:48
Um, oh, something. Oh, you're asking about some
2:48:51
more questions I did? Think about some more.
2:48:53
I actually had some written down.
2:48:55
I completely forgot about. I want to ask your opinion on
2:48:57
like We don't have to go into like debate of stuff or
2:49:01
whatever. This is just like what's your
2:49:04
thoughts on? Like I am not politically.
2:49:06
I am not like I'm not a communist I'm not a Nazi.
2:49:10
I'm not a republican, I'm not a Democrat, I'm just sort of
2:49:13
myself, you know. I have my own philosophy in
2:49:16
life. I just I used to be very
2:49:17
right-wing like I was hanging out with the Neo-Nazi kids, but
2:49:20
then I got away from them, but I was still really right wing and
2:49:24
I even went to a trump rally and I met Donald Trump wearing like
2:49:27
a wearing, like, a bunch of heavy metal shit.
2:49:30
But then I eventually just kind of like grew up pathetic to
2:49:34
American politics and all that. But in, what's your opinion on?
2:49:39
Oh, I know. This is a kind of a loaded
2:49:42
question. There's a lot you can answer,
2:49:43
you know, but what are your opinions of stuff, like, Marxism
2:49:48
or national socialism fascism Anarchy or democracy or anything
2:49:54
of the sort. It's interesting that you bring
2:49:57
that up because I actually have a friend that the Christians are
2:50:01
always like Brad. How do you manage to be so cool
2:50:04
with this person? I gotta I got a good friend.
2:50:06
They hang out with all the time. Her name was naughty a Chambers
2:50:10
and she was a transgender who referred to herself as an
2:50:13
anarchist Socialist, Communist and Nazi.
2:50:17
That's how she seen herself but she the transgender was nice and
2:50:22
cool and all that shit and wasn't telling me to go out and
2:50:24
do squats Will Go On My Head or anything like that.
2:50:27
So, yeah, we got along just fine.
2:50:29
It was a weird ass thing, but not he used to be on my show all
2:50:33
the time. Oh yeah.
2:50:37
I had a friend from Romania, who was a pretty chill guy and we
2:50:41
talk about music and stuff and but he was like, Aaron, I'm
2:50:45
gonna let you know, like I'm an iodine, I consider myself a
2:50:49
Neo-Nazi and I, you know, in Romania, we don't have black
2:50:53
people so I don't really have anything that's black people but
2:50:55
he said, I I don't like Jews and I don't like gypsies, is that a
2:50:59
problem for you? And I said, you keep your mess
2:51:01
to yourself. That's all there is.
2:51:02
And we were cool. Then after so long, no
2:51:05
seriously, after a while we were, he's a otherwise, she'll
2:51:09
guy. And then after a while it really
2:51:10
did get to the point where every conversation he was like, these
2:51:13
fucking Jews or these damn Gypsies and hearing the steel.
2:51:17
Ripping us off for these Jews. This Jews, I'm like, dude, I'm
2:51:21
tired of hearing it. I don't, I don't, I don't care.
2:51:25
Like even whenever I was a kid before I became an atheist, I
2:51:29
had been taught about Adam and Eve that we originally came from
2:51:33
two human beings which logically would mean that we all share
2:51:37
genetics with each other. We're all every child that was
2:51:40
born after Adam and Eve was from the same source.
2:51:42
So I don't I don't know how to work in racism or Nazism and I
2:51:48
don't know how some liberal Nazi asked, Democrats are able to do
2:51:52
that themselves if they believe in God because we're all
2:51:56
Brothers and Sisters of the cosmos her family.
2:51:58
So this whole hating on people for skin color or where the fuck
2:52:02
they come from or who they were born to it just simply makes no
2:52:06
sense to me. I remember getting shitt from my
2:52:10
friends as a teenager because one day I came to school wearing
2:52:13
a I still have the shirt. It's a Jimi Hendrix T-shirt with
2:52:16
where his afro was like brown velvet.
2:52:19
It was like a textured velvet and it was so cool.
2:52:23
It's a cool shirt. It's like his face in afro over
2:52:25
like he's brown velvet in one of my friends.
2:52:28
One of my I was probably about 13 at the time.
2:52:30
One of my older friends, who really was into that shit.
2:52:34
Told me a asked me, why you wearing, why are he said, why
2:52:40
are you wearing an inward on your shirt?
2:52:41
Why are you listening to inward music?
2:52:43
And I felt at the time, I remember just feeling I'm still
2:52:47
very new to all that sort of thinking, and I'm just like, I
2:52:51
don't understand like I've always listened to Jimi,
2:52:53
Hendrix. He just seems like such a
2:52:54
fucking badass guy. He's a cool guitar player
2:52:57
saying, like a nice guy and like, I don't see what Jimi
2:53:02
Hendrix did to this fella and and I told him I thought uneasy
2:53:06
and I felt angry and I was like and I was like, I don't know
2:53:11
what Jimi Hendrix did to you but to me he kicks fucking ass dude
2:53:14
he played he played the Star-Spangled Banner and like
2:53:17
dude that's he's an American hero to me and he's like well
2:53:20
you need that. He was like you need to stop
2:53:22
thinking that way and you see you got to quit listening to
2:53:25
Judas Priest and queen you know this queers and you gotta listen
2:53:29
to Liberal shit like Nirvana. You Gotta quit listening to this
2:53:32
you got to start doing this. I'm like you got to quit
2:53:35
watching these Comedians and I'm like Dude, these people were
2:53:38
scaring me and I and I was like, I vaguely knew who Hitler was as
2:53:43
a kid and I knew vaguely who the Nazis were.
2:53:46
But like I really learned about it in these kids.
2:53:49
And the reason they, the reason I Tolerated them, I think is
2:53:55
because they put it in my head that like, you love like you
2:53:58
love medieval literature, right? You love mythology and you love
2:54:01
fairy tales and like fantasy and all that, right?
2:54:04
And they're like, I'm like, yeah.
2:54:05
And they're in, they said the world used to be like that.
2:54:08
The world used to be like The Legend of Zelda and Lord of the
2:54:11
Rings. I'm like, what do you mean?
2:54:12
They said there used to be magic in the world and the world we
2:54:17
used to have adventures and live in wholesome Villages and and
2:54:20
build beautiful castles. I was like, oh yeah, like a long
2:54:24
time ago and like Viking age of the Medieval ages or whatever.
2:54:28
He's like, no. They said the Jews took that
2:54:31
away from us and I said, how they said through Christianity.
2:54:33
They used Christians and brought them into Rome or the Jews went
2:54:38
into Rome and converted people to Christianity.
2:54:40
And then, they took over Europe and destroyed our Pagan cultures
2:54:45
and stuff. And so, they're like the reason
2:54:49
the world is shit now is because of that and blah, blah, and
2:54:52
years later, I come to find out that a lot of the things that
2:54:56
Jews were pinned on in the Middle Ages were actually the
2:54:58
fault of no offense, Christian Kings, who wanted to use the
2:55:03
Jewish population and sometimes the Pagan population escaped,
2:55:06
goats for the failures of their society, but at the time I was
2:55:11
told like yeah, all the things, all the bad things in the world
2:55:14
are because of Jews and I'm like, I guess, I don't know any
2:55:19
Jews, but you know, I'm 13 and these kids are like 15, 16, and
2:55:23
So I sort of believed him to a degree.
2:55:26
I'm like maybe they're right, maybe Christianity was forced on
2:55:29
us by these Jews, by the Jews, and all this.
2:55:32
And so Um it but I was still hesitant.
2:55:36
I'm like, I don't hate Jewish people, I don't hate black
2:55:39
people or gay people and like I don't, you know, and so like
2:55:44
that's sort of thinking the Nazi thinking or the racist thinking
2:55:48
I even when I was around it, I didn't quite understand it, but
2:55:53
I tolerated that I think it's because I didn't have a
2:55:55
connection to anybody else, you know?
2:55:58
Yeah, makes sense. You know where you had, you
2:56:02
mentioned the manatee thing. I don't know if he seen this,
2:56:04
here we go. It's my buddy TTR over there.
2:56:15
He's wearing my it's a he will Evolution as magic shirt and
2:56:20
then he said to beautiful ladies.
2:56:22
See here. They're they well, they all
2:56:25
three actually have a man t-shirt.
2:56:27
Yeah. Ever since.
2:56:28
That mean came up, I thought man, I'm glad to make some money
2:56:31
on that. So I had to put these hearts
2:56:33
together for people. You like it.
2:56:35
I know. That's cool.
2:56:37
I like it. That's, that's cool that you own
2:56:39
it. You own the manatee label.
2:56:41
That's fucking funny. That's amazing.
2:56:42
Well, I'm the king of the manatee and all the 8th District
2:56:46
my mini servants. Yes, Dude.
2:56:50
Yeah, regarding the political stuff.
2:56:52
We, obviously, we're going to have some reviews on the Nazis
2:56:56
on. I mean, we're not gonna just be
2:56:57
like, yeah, they have a point but when it comes to like a
2:57:00
communist, what Mark says I'm slash socialism / communism.
2:57:04
I have a very, I'm not one, I'm not a Marxist.
2:57:08
I I can think for myself but like It's interesting to me
2:57:13
because I I love history and I like studying dictators and so
2:57:17
different societies and the way people lived why they did those
2:57:21
things or like you know, almost like the psychology behind it.
2:57:25
Like I think North Korea is fascinating, for example, but
2:57:28
with when it comes to specifically Mark says, I'm
2:57:31
something that I noticed is that it tends to be one extreme or
2:57:35
another. Like you have Vietnam who?
2:57:37
Yeah, there was a war fought all that but like as a society
2:57:42
They're pretty accepting, they're pretty fairly normal.
2:57:45
I suppose, you know, you could live in Vietnam and Not be like,
2:57:49
I'm living in the communist country.
2:57:51
I'm going to be putting a gulag but then you could live in North
2:57:55
Korea and that's like the most stereotype and Aaron.
2:57:59
I'm so gonna be listening to you but I got to use the restroom.
2:58:02
I've got my speakers on so I'll be able to hear you be right
2:58:05
back. All right.
2:58:06
Continue talking. You're in control of my
2:58:11
broadcast have fun. I'll be right back.
2:58:14
I got your brother. Um essentially I guess what I'm
2:58:17
saying is like, with Communism, I'm very conflicted with how I
2:58:20
feel about Marxism and communism socialism because like, Like I
2:58:24
mentioned, you'll have like a country like Vietnam who seems
2:58:28
pretty tall. They they seem like a pretty
2:58:29
tolerant country socially, and all those are officially
2:58:33
atheist. You have Christians who can live
2:58:34
there, Buddhists Jews, even some Muslims, and you have the
2:58:39
traditional animists, the Pagan polytheist who live there.
2:58:42
But then if you go to North Korea who was also historically
2:58:46
a marks, his country, That, you know, they have the same, they
2:58:50
have the same state atheism, as the Soviet Union did or Vietnam
2:58:55
still has, but they have the zero tolerance policy for
2:58:59
religion and in the Soviet Union it varied from leader to leader
2:59:04
like with Joseph Stalin. There was absolutely no
2:59:06
tolerance towards religion and their and under a cruise ship
2:59:09
there was mild tolerance. Like he had to kind of keep it
2:59:12
low-key, but with Communism as a concept to me, it's like I'll
2:59:19
see documentaries about countries like Vietnam or Cuba.
2:59:23
And I'll be like, oh, maybe maybe it works out for them.
2:59:26
Then I'll see a documentary about Albania about inverse hoja
2:59:29
or A nickel Edge School in Romania or Pol Pot in Cambodia
2:59:35
and I'll be like, no, that sucks.
2:59:37
That's a living hell. I don't want Christians to be
2:59:40
shot in the head and I'm an atheist myself, but I don't want
2:59:43
Christians to be shot in the head for praying.
2:59:45
Maybe I don't want stating what I'm back.
2:59:48
It wasn't just Christians, I got cleaned.
2:59:50
It was already atheists. Who weren't happy with that.
2:59:54
Another atheist. Oh no.
2:59:55
I was specifically saying like because you are a Christian
2:59:58
yourself and I know and I'm looking at it as even though I'm
3:00:02
an atheist or an agnostic atheist, agnostic.
3:00:04
I I still look at like what happened in?
3:00:07
Even Peru, a lot of people don't remember The Shining path.
3:00:10
And Peru boiling babies on the, you know, in The Villages as
3:00:16
punishment to the people who wouldn't comply.
3:00:19
And so you had like with Communism, there seems to be one
3:00:22
extreme or another. Like it seems like it works out
3:00:24
for some like Vietnam Laos and modern de Cuba and it seems like
3:00:30
it's a living hell for others, like a 70s 80s, Peru, North
3:00:34
Korea, or 70s, Cambodia. So I wanted to know what your
3:00:39
thoughts on like Mark, says a mark.
3:00:43
Well, hold on one second, and we'll get into that.
3:00:45
I know, I just dumped a lot on you.
3:00:49
It's cool. It's cool.
3:00:50
I am glad that you're passionate.
3:00:52
And that's something you want to talk about Robin's out here.
3:00:55
She's actually one of my atheist friends.
3:00:57
Robin, you're gonna come in and talk to me.
3:00:59
It's been a little while and I've been concerned about your
3:01:01
health. Gonna come in and chat, I hope
3:01:04
you do. I put the link out for you in
3:01:06
case you can't click on the pin thing.
3:01:08
And she's got a funky computer. She's been having some issues
3:01:11
lately, hoping that she's doing all right.
3:01:13
Now, it's okay. I was gonna say it's interesting
3:01:18
that you brought that up, because last month, there was
3:01:21
some atheistic. Came towards me and they said,
3:01:24
hey Brian, would you be interested in doing a debate on
3:01:27
these very topics, he brought up and I, I told him to be honest
3:01:31
with myself, more about Theology and more about science and
3:01:35
things like that. However, I do got a Christian
3:01:38
friend who has about 100,000 Subs, who would probably come
3:01:41
over here and do a debate with you.
3:01:43
If you want to do a one-on-one, and I'll be the moderator.
3:01:45
And for some reason atheists, like me being a moderator
3:01:49
because I kind of let people go back and forth.
3:01:51
I don't time them or anything teaching about that too.
3:01:55
Actually Let me see if this is actually robbing.
3:01:58
Is that the real Robin? Yeah.
3:02:00
Hey beautiful, how you doing? I'm pretty good.
3:02:04
I just been been sitting with that woman out with on the
3:02:08
weekends. We watched Jeremiah.
3:02:09
Um I'll crap hanging it now. It's got Burt Reynolds in it.
3:02:17
Not Burt Reynolds. Well I've lost my mind now.
3:02:20
It's got the Jeremiah Johnson, you know the mountain man.
3:02:28
You've been watching Brokeback Mountain have you know, it's
3:02:33
Robert Redford in it. I don't know where I come up
3:02:37
with. He's got Ray Robert.
3:02:40
Ray from Jeremiah Johnson. He's a mountain man.
3:02:45
I don't I don't recall the title Robert Redford's been on over
3:02:48
100 movies, so be really difficult for me.
3:02:51
Great fucking actor though. Absolutely.
3:02:54
Yeah, it came on the inspiration, china, west turns,
3:02:58
like guns, mocking, all that stuff, all over Bonanza.
3:03:02
Yeah, I watch all that stuff. It's a real quick just to not
3:03:06
keep Mr. Iran basically, holding up, I got a buddy named brother
3:03:12
Maverick. He's got about 100,000 Subs, but
3:03:14
he isn't one type people. It's like I got more subject.
3:03:17
You ain't talking your ass kind of thing.
3:03:18
He's a Christian so he's cool. But he actually debated some
3:03:23
atheists one-on-one on my show. If you want to go back through
3:03:26
my shows and see it it's really, really interesting.
3:03:29
They talked for about two hours and a half and stuff, and I
3:03:33
didn't really have to do any work back here.
3:03:35
I'm over here, eating Cocoa Krispies and just listening to
3:03:38
East to go back and forth. Unfortunately, one of the, the
3:03:43
people who were in the Communists and all that actually
3:03:46
said that he would he would prefer that Christians not exist
3:03:50
as well as any religion of any form.
3:03:52
Yeah. Okay.
3:03:54
That's where like I'm like so I have for like a Mark says it's
3:04:00
like it's like the basics, I'm pretty.
3:04:03
Okay. With like I'm not a I'm not a
3:04:05
Marxist but it's like the basics of like people need to be fed,
3:04:08
people need housing, people need to Essentials to live in a
3:04:12
modern society. But whenever I see stuff like
3:04:14
Joseph Stalin blowing up 800 year old Cathedrals or Or the or
3:04:21
like in North Korea, people or any actually most Korea, Peru
3:04:27
Albania Romania, people practicing any religion, and
3:04:30
just getting a, being put in a gulag for it or getting shot for
3:04:33
it. That's just like to me.
3:04:35
My ideal Society is not to oppress them or like even as an
3:04:40
atheist or an agnostic. It's like people should have the
3:04:42
right to practice what they want.
3:04:43
So, so I'm super conflicted because it seems to be like
3:04:47
communism, goes one way, one extreme or the other like in
3:04:51
Vietnam you have pretty fair amount of personal freedom but
3:04:54
if you were to go to If you were to go to China or North Korea,
3:04:59
or if you go back in time, you go to 70s Cambodia.
3:05:03
You had very little autonomy and I do not like that.
3:05:07
I don't like that at all. Well, instead of doing a whole
3:05:10
Global or an entire State thing of Communism and all that, even
3:05:15
if you like some of the philosophy and nobody's hate on
3:05:18
you for this, but why not just participate in the ministry or
3:05:23
something? Where if people are hungry, feed
3:05:26
them soup and give them something Christians.
3:05:28
Have always been that way for 1000 Years where they'll do
3:05:31
Charities. They'll help people out who are
3:05:33
hungry and all that jungles and such I worked for a homeless
3:05:39
shelter, I was not. I I worked at a gas station up
3:05:42
in Niagara Falls, New York, but my friend Rodney and I both ACS,
3:05:45
by the way, we used to volunteer at the Niagara gospel Rescue
3:05:48
Mission all the time and we were friendly with the staff.
3:05:52
They knew we weren't religious or anything, and we always
3:05:55
cooked meals, we did Thanksgiving Forum.
3:05:57
I mean like so it's like we didn't have anything against
3:06:00
like the chair ability of Christianity.
3:06:02
We worked alongside them but like then.
3:06:06
Um, so but like, you know. So but like with Communism I do
3:06:14
believe like whether it's Christianity or with Communism
3:06:16
it's like Nikita Khrushchev. For example after Joseph Stalin
3:06:19
died, Nikita kruschev made it his mission to house.
3:06:22
Every Soviet citizen to tear down the gulags and free, all
3:06:26
the prisoners and house them in compensate them, Global
3:06:31
globalized Health Care, you globalized education or
3:06:36
nationalized, Healthcare, nationalized education.
3:06:38
So I, I'm pretty okay with that because that's beneficial to
3:06:43
people. Whether it's legitimate
3:06:44
logistically possible or not. What like, I think it's a good,
3:06:47
it's a good concept, but then, like I said, then I'll look into
3:06:52
like Albania's history and I'd be like, I don't want to get
3:06:55
shot for walking on the side, on the wrong sidewalk.
3:06:57
I don't want to get shot for, for making the wrong, kind of
3:07:00
joke and people should not get shot for being Christian.
3:07:04
That's the wrong. Let me give you an example of
3:07:07
something because I, I like the idea is, it's talking about an
3:07:11
audience, he's very articulate. The atheists, tell me about the
3:07:14
Communists socialists. Now the problem is, I'll give
3:07:18
you an example of something our modern day JD Vance.
3:07:21
Just recently talked about this. He said, you know, JD Vance is
3:07:25
Right vice president, vice president.
3:07:26
All right. So he's he's a real, kluber,
3:07:29
mastered himself. What he said is that look right?
3:07:33
We like the idea of being able to put roofs over people's head
3:07:37
and take care of people, but the Liberals ended up bringing in 40
3:07:41
million people and yeah, that it actually brought up, it's
3:07:44
skyrocketed, the price is on Holmes and made it to
3:07:48
competitive, to the point where now young people are not able to
3:07:53
afford having a future, having their own home anymore.
3:07:56
So we got that's that's one of the big problems.
3:07:59
So what do you what do you hope in like what happened?
3:08:03
If we got? Imagine this, imagine that
3:08:06
there's a group of people over here.
3:08:07
And then, there's a group over here and the group over here
3:08:10
once socialism. So who's paying for when the
3:08:14
other group decides, they want to go to Planned Parenthood and
3:08:16
get an abortion? Should Christians pay for
3:08:19
somebody. Get an abortion when they don't
3:08:20
believe in that said an atheist pay for Christians.
3:08:24
They have some kind of cool Monument.
3:08:26
I mean, where is the limitations at you?
3:08:28
If this is purely anecdotal but let's say if I were a The leader
3:08:35
of a country doesn't have to be. Let's say, it's not even more
3:08:37
exist, not socialist or will not label it socialists, we won't
3:08:41
label a communist or Marxist. Let's say I'm the leader of a
3:08:44
country, even though I'm in atheist.
3:08:46
I would try to sip in the taxpayers money this in a
3:08:51
similar way to socialism and provide like free health care, a
3:08:55
good quality, free health care and good, quality, free,
3:08:58
education, and housing and food. But I would I even has an
3:09:05
atheist. I would still try to provide
3:09:07
like, hey, this church in this, this church in this region is
3:09:10
kind of run down in rickety. Let's let's get some people in
3:09:14
there and build them a new church or fix up the old church
3:09:16
and like So they have a nice place to Worship in assemble and
3:09:20
let's do it for the synagogue over here, and let's do it for
3:09:23
this roller roller skating, you know, Arena over here.
3:09:27
Let's do it for this baseball field.
3:09:28
I would do for anybody. I would probably skating in a
3:09:32
while. Do people show roller skate?
3:09:34
I used to, I used to. I used to whenever I was
3:09:38
younger. I don't like girl is figure
3:09:40
anymore, so I can't do it. But you know what, Aaron so,
3:09:45
yeah, I know, you know, I've been, I've been talking Aaron
3:09:49
for a couple hours now, and I'm absolutely surprised that some
3:09:53
atheists haven't come along and said, hey man, you need to, we
3:09:57
want to co-host for a podcast or something.
3:09:59
This guy is extremely articulate.
3:10:01
He's intelligently thinks about everything from politics to
3:10:06
Theology and all this. I wonder why nobody's come
3:10:08
towards you and said, hey let's put this guy up there.
3:10:11
It would totally beat watching. People talk about weed, not oh,
3:10:14
fucking day. You know, I've to be honest with
3:10:19
you, I've always liked one of my dreams, YouTube dreams.
3:10:23
This is so gay. I'm sorry.
3:10:24
But like, what am I? What am I, not gay, right Robin,
3:10:30
but, like, hello, gay. TJ was like an inspirational
3:10:36
figure to me in the since I like he, I feel like, wow, he gave me
3:10:39
the confidence to be more myself and like express myself more.
3:10:43
And I've always I've told TJ then he appreciated it and but
3:10:47
I, I'm like, man, I would love to have a show like DFS or
3:10:51
Golden Era drunken peasants where I could get my buddies
3:10:54
together and just like laugh and Maybe just a little Stone and
3:10:59
beat silly and stuff. He doesn't have to be some you
3:11:02
know it doesn't have to be a Blood Sport thing or a debate
3:11:04
thing. It could just be like us goofing
3:11:06
around But I you know I just I guess I'm just such a story you
3:11:12
do me a favor if you do happen to its amazing come along and
3:11:15
they decide to recruit you for a podcast.
3:11:17
Please don't do videos about mentally ill people or people
3:11:21
are disabled just do what you're talking about right now.
3:11:24
It's already you're already interesting enough as a person.
3:11:28
You don't have to go for low fruit man.
3:11:30
I have no interest in like tearing down, people who can't
3:11:34
help the way they are and I have no interest in.
3:11:37
Even if there's something like Jared Genesis is probably not
3:11:40
the most favorable person in the world.
3:11:41
I still just don't have I don't have the time or interest in
3:11:46
anything like that because it's like sort of the same shit over
3:11:49
and over I mean let's kind of a reason I told you like DP sort
3:11:53
of fell off for me is because like it turned into like a sort
3:11:56
of a bad version of local live. And I hate saying that because I
3:12:00
really do like been a lot and I think he's funny and I'll still
3:12:03
pop in and he'll have some funny shit on there and we'll watch,
3:12:06
you know, or he'll be talking about something interesting and
3:12:09
we'll just be talking, you know, back and forth and, you know, so
3:12:13
I'm not tearing bin down at all or even the show.
3:12:15
It's just like I don't the low-cal shit and like, making
3:12:20
fun of mentally disabled people, and all that stuff, I mean,
3:12:23
that's kind of what happened to Kobe's, you know, I don't like
3:12:26
that. I don't like what happened to
3:12:28
him. And so it's like, I, I try to
3:12:30
make an effort to be more of an understanding person, a Kinder
3:12:34
person. And to me, if I want to make fun
3:12:36
of somebody, I'm gonna make fun of like, some asshole in the
3:12:40
street causing trouble for people or some political
3:12:43
assholes and trouble or somebody, you know, that's, I
3:12:48
don't have that you would do good and stuff like that.
3:12:52
And I don't even with, even with like, you know, I used to really
3:12:56
enjoy like, I used to be a 4chan guy and I enjoyed Aggie racist,
3:13:01
homophobic memes and all that shit.
3:13:03
And that stuff will make me giggle.
3:13:05
I think, I don't take it seriously, but like I think
3:13:07
it's, I still think some of his funny, but it's like, I wouldn't
3:13:10
want to turn my. I wouldn't want to turn her show
3:13:13
into that either, you know, just like making fun of gay people or
3:13:16
transfer. So on one extreme or the other,
3:13:18
you know, it's like, I wouldn't want to be like I hateful show
3:13:21
or Bloodsport sort of thing. It would just be entertainment.
3:13:25
Comedy satire gaming stuff like that.
3:13:29
Robin, did I tell you about the mean that somebody posted to me
3:13:32
recently on Twitter? I know you.
3:13:36
I don't know how you guys are gonna react to this.
3:13:39
I'm not even sure if I should laugh at it or just go.
3:13:43
Oh my goodness. This is rough.
3:13:44
Somebody sends a picture to me in it.
3:13:46
It's basically an artistic representation of sperm swimming
3:13:50
around, right? And and the sperm says, this is
3:13:54
awesome. I I'm gonna be born soon and I'm
3:13:57
gonna have an awesome life and everything's going to be great.
3:14:00
And the other sperm says, what do you stupid?
3:14:02
You're in a man's butt. How long I looked for the egg?
3:14:15
dude, um, what dude like What I have to admit something, that
3:14:20
was pretty funny that been said the other night and play and my
3:14:24
apologies to ttor. This is not personal.
3:14:27
I thought, I don't know if you saw this, but he called
3:14:30
teaching, you been was making fun of things.
3:14:34
Know what the blowjob picture Rod polisher or whatever, he
3:14:40
can't call him Rod polisher because he said he was polishing
3:14:45
you I thought that was funny. Well, I seen the picture and all
3:14:49
that. There are a couple people posted
3:14:51
that to me, I don't remember who I responded.
3:14:53
Oh no, it wasn't a Patronus just him, he was making fun of ttor
3:14:57
and he said, wow, you're really polishing Brett Keane.
3:15:00
I'm going to call you rob polisher.
3:15:02
That was funny like that was it like, hold on.
3:15:07
Somebody posted a picture of TTR to me where he's got his hand up
3:15:11
in the air, and his eyes are closed.
3:15:13
And he goes, apparently Brett King's given to our gorm job or
3:15:18
some shit. And, and he looks like he's
3:15:20
really enjoying it. And I wrote this was my
3:15:23
response. Robin, you're going to want to
3:15:24
spank me for this, but I said, if you're going to do it, do it
3:15:27
fucking right, my friend, so hold on.
3:15:31
Hold on, let me see if this is actually smoking.
3:15:35
Is this a real smoky? Yeah, I'm back.
3:15:38
All right. Was that terrible do you want to
3:15:41
beat me up for that? No, no, you're good.
3:15:54
Me a core job situation. See, Smoky a lot of these.
3:15:59
The folks that come in and they do that weird shit to us and
3:16:02
everything. They don't realize we've seen
3:16:04
everything under the fucking side.
3:16:06
Yeah. You know you can't troll me know
3:16:08
you really can't trouble really can't?
3:16:10
They think they can. But they really around like and,
3:16:14
you know, I do love TJ out of all the guys being Scotty.
3:16:17
Paul TJ's my favorite just because like I want to send them
3:16:20
in a level, he inspired me a lot to just be myself but like the
3:16:24
the stuff about TJ, the banana thing or the hot oil thing.
3:16:27
Like he's pretty aware of all that.
3:16:30
He takes it in stride, he can take a joke.
3:16:33
Yeah. TJ can take a joke.
3:16:36
He actually thinks it's pretty funny.
3:16:39
I know, I know he's got a good sense of humor and all that.
3:16:41
You know, there's an interesting story behind that.
3:16:44
I don't know if I ever told you this as well.
3:16:46
Smoky and Robin. Do you realize right before I
3:16:50
went on the the episode for like the second or third time because
3:16:54
he's seen how ignore Paul was to me on the first episode, he
3:16:59
actually asked me in the, in the back before.
3:17:01
He brought me up on the show, he talked me one-on-one in Skype
3:17:06
and Skype and he goes, dude, he goes the first episode we did
3:17:08
was fucking fantastic. It was really, really great.
3:17:11
People enjoyed it and I said, well, I'm glad to hear that
3:17:14
fantastic. And he goes, do you want me to
3:17:17
remove Paul out of the conversation?
3:17:18
And I said, why would you do that?
3:17:20
And he said, well, Paul just keeps like yelling at you and he
3:17:25
won't like, stop so you can participate.
3:17:27
Oh, I said no, people want to see Paul act like a fucking
3:17:31
ringing thing. We gotta have the whole, we
3:17:34
gotta have the whole enchilada. You can't put that bitch out of
3:17:36
it. Keeping up.
3:17:37
And he goes really are You sure and I said dude just give me my
3:17:41
thousand dollars. You can bring in 50 more 80s if
3:17:44
you want. Dude.
3:17:46
Oh something I wanted to ask you about bread.
3:17:49
This is a very recent thing, this kind of like the door.
3:17:52
Um so both on both drunken peasants recently like a couple
3:17:58
of days ago and Deep Fat fried a couple of days ago, actually.
3:18:03
Because of your comments about pimp Monk and codes to, to a
3:18:09
degree. They both or they all
3:18:13
specifically Paul. And Ben both said that because
3:18:18
of what you said about pimp, Monk and cobs.
3:18:21
That they will celebrate your death whenever you pass away.
3:18:25
What do you think about that? Oh, scary.
3:18:30
Well, they've already they've already told me long before I
3:18:34
even made a video about him monk while still healthy.
3:18:38
I've had to countless DP fans, tell me, they wish I was fucking
3:18:42
dead. And in fact, some of them said
3:18:44
they would assist me on that and gave me details instruction on
3:18:47
how crazy for me, for me. I mean, Smokies already starting
3:18:52
to receive some love. And so his wife.
3:18:54
Oh, yeah, no. Love like drunken peasants love.
3:19:01
I'll tell you, I tell you, like I said, I've interviewed real
3:19:04
Neo-Nazi, real Communists, real Islamic, former Islamic
3:19:09
extremists. And, you know, I wouldn't wish
3:19:11
death on any of them. It's like, even the most
3:19:13
hardened Neo Nazis I've ever met in my life.
3:19:15
It's like, I don't want to kill them or I don't Me, I wouldn't
3:19:19
celebrate their debts. I would want them to be better
3:19:22
people and I want the them to have a good future and like, you
3:19:25
know, the past was the past and I don't wish death on people
3:19:29
like in. Unless it's somebody who really
3:19:32
is like an Adolf Hitler or or Joseph Stalin or somebody like
3:19:37
that, I don't wish death on people, I don't celebrate.
3:19:40
Death. You know, like we lost codes and
3:19:42
pit monk recently. Pimp monk was funny as shit and
3:19:46
like, Cobbs was just a good-hearted troubled guy, and
3:19:48
it's like that was just a fucking sucked.
3:19:51
And I just seen, I've been around for 20 years, I've seen a
3:19:56
lot of cool Christians and atheists, Unfortunately they
3:19:59
deceased, or they just completely left, a lot of great
3:20:03
heads up there. I love, I love, I have no
3:20:06
nothing but love for TJ in the crew and Ben and the crew.
3:20:10
But it's just, I wouldn't I get the Heat of the Moment, their
3:20:15
friend, you know, their friend died, and they were angry.
3:20:17
And what you said? I just wouldn't I wouldn't
3:20:21
celebrate somebody's death. Personally, maybe I'm about the
3:20:26
the monks thing, I don't know if he seen my recent video though,
3:20:30
I did, I did, I was actually watching the episode of dff when
3:20:34
you took it down line. Know, I got a video up, right?
3:20:38
I actually didn't know anything about pit Monk, and I saw
3:20:41
Brett's video pop up. I didn't really know anything
3:20:44
about the guy. Oh, I thought in my brain was,
3:20:47
oh, I'm not an atheist. Kicked the bucket.
3:20:51
Okay. Moving on.
3:20:52
You know, he was an atheist, but even then pin one was just a
3:20:56
goofy Stoner guy. He was funny.
3:20:58
He wasn't really, he was a harmless, dude.
3:21:00
You know, he's almost like, oh, blind really know much much
3:21:03
about him other than him being in that General toxic
3:21:06
environment which which drew it so connotations, but I wasn't
3:21:09
exactly gonna go on some sort of crusade to learn a bunch of
3:21:12
details about the man. You know what I mean?
3:21:14
It's not he. Let me give you an example of
3:21:18
something real quick. If you go to my Spotify radio
3:21:22
Smokey you're probably not gonna you probably too busy to do
3:21:25
this. But if Aaron really wants to
3:21:28
know why he got the treatment he did was this, he actually was
3:21:32
in. He put monk XX actually came on
3:21:35
my show if you times before he Started doing tiktok.
3:21:38
And what he did was, he comes in my room and he says, hey, Brett,
3:21:41
can you do me a favor? And I said, sure, man, what's
3:21:44
up? He was on my show and he said
3:21:47
this to me, he goes when you die, can you have your family?
3:21:50
Let me know where the grave was located at the Michael.
3:21:53
What? And he goes, why?
3:21:54
I just want to know where to take a fucking shit.
3:21:56
I actually heard that. I had heard that actually, um, I
3:22:02
don't, I mean, I've heard people say similar things.
3:22:05
Like, I'll give you an example. The varg victim, this guy I've
3:22:08
mentioned earlier from the black metal band bursum the man he
3:22:11
killed. Who was the guitarist for the
3:22:13
band? Mayhem, another black metal band
3:22:15
from Norway, he killed him. And he in an interview after he
3:22:18
killed him. He said I would piss on his
3:22:20
grave. Then years later, I actually,
3:22:23
when I interviewed him and he made YouTube videos about it.
3:22:27
He said, actually, I wouldn't piss on his grave.
3:22:29
He said it's actually distasteful to speak of the
3:22:33
dead. He said, I only say good things
3:22:35
about him now because he was a fantastic guitar player, he was
3:22:38
a great musician. He was funny.
3:22:39
He said something bad happened and I ended up killing him.
3:22:43
Like can I make a mild point about this?
3:22:47
The real quick because I did have someone kind of pop up in
3:22:50
my comments section from the DP crew kind of throwing the
3:22:54
garbage you know, around and the Emily name and all the other
3:22:58
crap. I don't really give a lot of
3:22:59
weight to. It's just some random chick.
3:23:00
That no one knows anything. About this telling a story.
3:23:02
I don't I don't think that something evidence for much of
3:23:06
anything so in any case there's a person's coming in and kind of
3:23:10
bringing up the pit monk you know, type thing.
3:23:13
And I'm thinking to myself, you know, if this guy, Was a scummy
3:23:18
piece of shit. Then all that was said is just
3:23:20
totally fine and move on with your day, there's people that
3:23:23
didn't like him and express themselves move on with it.
3:23:25
There's a lot of people, the express negativity when the
3:23:28
Queen of England died and a lot of people that loved her to
3:23:30
death. You know, what are we going to
3:23:31
do? Have Crusades about people's
3:23:33
personal opinions about someone's, you know, life, I
3:23:36
think that's a little bit a little bit ridiculous.
3:23:38
Number one, number two, if the man was any kind of decent I
3:23:44
think the last thing if he was truly a decent guy like and has
3:23:47
some sort of, you know, reasonable moral fiber to him,
3:23:50
something respectable. I really didn't know him that.
3:23:54
Well, all right, I'm just making a point.
3:23:56
I'm not, I'm not I'm not playing anything at your feet.
3:23:58
I'm not laying anything at your feet.
3:24:00
I'm just I'm just speaking. I'm just I'm speaking into the
3:24:02
ether, really, honestly right now I'm saying if the man was
3:24:06
any kind of decent really, um then I think the last thing he
3:24:11
would want would be a bunch of people going around in his name,
3:24:14
in his honor, lying slandering attacking you know throwing a
3:24:19
bunch of garbage around in his honor in his name if he was a
3:24:22
decent man. I don't think he would want
3:24:24
that. So unless he's a real piece of
3:24:27
shit, that burns the justification of the type of
3:24:30
comments that I put forth towards him in a negative
3:24:32
fashion unless he's that piece of shit and everything.
3:24:36
And therefore everything I said is Justified he wouldn't want
3:24:38
what the DP fans have been doing you know to basically be that
3:24:43
which Is memory in his legacy is based around that their way to
3:24:47
honor him is to go around and bling garbage and
3:24:50
unsubstantiated shit at Brett Keane.
3:24:52
That just that's just that just seems like a real bad judgment.
3:24:55
In fact, it shows me that you were probably a piece of shit
3:24:59
because all your friends, clearly are.
3:25:01
I'll say this about actually, on the other side of that, the
3:25:04
coach thing when people are like, let's get drunk for cobs,
3:25:07
let's drink Forbes. Let's, let's get poor.
3:25:10
Let's pour one piece Cove on the same.
3:25:13
It's like to me. I know that's what killed him.
3:25:15
There's an actual fan. I mean I wasn't I wasn't sure.
3:25:19
I didn't fuk with them. I'd actually watch him on
3:25:21
occasion and just laugh and have fun.
3:25:23
I actually liked comes, I never farted.
3:25:25
I would encourage him to. I would tell him, dude, put the
3:25:28
Boost down and play that Guitar. Let's play that BC Rich.
3:25:31
I, I never liked when I was saying is like the same thing
3:25:37
with the Pitman thing when Kobe's passed.
3:25:39
And people were like man. Let's get fucked up tonight.
3:25:41
For colds, I'm drinking one for Toby's.
3:25:43
I'm like that's what killed him dude.
3:25:45
Yeah. He's like this is now the shape
3:25:50
of his is legacy is these deviants that are predicating
3:25:55
you know not the wondermints of his life for the great positive
3:25:59
things of this. Dad Clint would have enjoyed and
3:26:01
loved about him but they take this this this troll environment
3:26:06
and try to concrete this as the guys Legacy, you know, which is
3:26:09
even almost in some ways, a grander offense and the things
3:26:12
they did. He was alive.
3:26:15
Yeah, no Smokey. I know that you didn't get any
3:26:18
chance to really interact with the guy.
3:26:20
I tried over and over every time you come on this Billy, the
3:26:24
fridge was fucking coolest. Fuck, totally.
3:26:26
All right. But but the pimp, unfortunately,
3:26:30
he come in and he'd be like, I still talking about that fucking
3:26:34
Jesus guy. And fuck your God, right?
3:26:37
King and fuck. You, you know, you still beating
3:26:39
the fuck out of your wife, kind of shit.
3:26:41
And I'd be like him just because your buddies with them, doesn't
3:26:45
mean that you can't hang out with me and have a respectful
3:26:48
conversation. It doesn't always have to be
3:26:51
this way, so we could get along, but he just kept on.
3:26:54
He goes a tell me about your grandma fucking cancer, you
3:26:59
know, you fucking Manatee, and I'd go.
3:27:01
Hey, why you calling me that? You look like a fucking catfish,
3:27:05
buddy, you talked to like that? So yeah.
3:27:08
Things got a little excited for sure and all that but he never
3:27:12
killed the fuck out. But what was weird, smoking.
3:27:15
I actually got to talk to him one-on-one.
3:27:16
I got to talk to Billy Fred's one-on-one and they were
3:27:19
gentlemen, when one-on-one, but when they were on a broadcast
3:27:24
and they need new DP was streaming.
3:27:26
They were like you fucked and lose her.
3:27:28
It's like, well, you know, Well, I also look at it like, from a
3:27:33
comedy perspective, like comedy, it does kind of equal
3:27:37
exaggeration to a degree. Like, you know, TJ, TJ is TJ,
3:27:41
but like, T. I've never met him in person.
3:27:44
I've never just been around him like outside of, you know, his
3:27:48
videos or streams, or whatever, or in on Twitter.
3:27:51
But like he himself has said, like his his Amazing Atheist or
3:27:57
Into. The Fray Persona is obviously a
3:28:00
little exaggerated. Like he's a pretty chill guy.
3:28:04
And actually so is Paul but I know one and one, they can be
3:28:09
fucking gentlemen. Yeah.
3:28:11
Yeah. And Scotty.
3:28:13
He's cool as shit. I love Scotty.
3:28:16
Right. Unfortunately, they feed into
3:28:18
what I refer to as Wolfpack mentality.
3:28:20
I don't know if you have a different name for it Smoky but
3:28:23
it's when people are watching suddenly Brett King becomes a
3:28:27
bastard but if it's one-on-one they were all nice.
3:28:30
They were all cool but they just wanted to show off for their
3:28:34
buddies all the time and then, you know, I smoke, you know,
3:28:36
just as well as I, I don't mind somebody fucking off on me, but
3:28:40
you don't come in and say, hey, smoked you, how's your fucking
3:28:43
cancer riddled grandmother, you still beating the fuck out of
3:28:45
your wife? I mean sooner or later that's
3:28:48
gonna get annoying and then to repeat it back in three, I don't
3:28:52
even like mac and cheese that much.
3:28:54
I mistake, man, bitch. You know, it's it's saying,
3:28:58
yeah. I mean, also the thing is also
3:29:05
down with anyone over, pretty much anything.
3:29:07
And I get slandered, there's a bunch of rumors and bulshit and
3:29:10
things that a dumb satanic, Korean mocked up and doctored
3:29:14
and lied about and bunch of other people spreading bulshit.
3:29:17
But you know what? Come and challenge me.
3:29:19
I don't just bling shit at me from a distance.
3:29:22
Actually, that's had one of those scenarios earlier today.
3:29:25
I'm going to really say any names or anything but someone
3:29:27
you know, decided to just throw shit at me and run away.
3:29:31
I'm just kind of like, you know, and it's a YouTuber who does
3:29:34
content, you know, who I was in a stream with and certainly
3:29:38
didn't say anything negative at times was it that person with a
3:29:41
record for being the shit out of jail?
3:29:42
That's not what's not? Let's not go there with it.
3:29:46
I'm not necessary. Anyway, I that type of stuff.
3:29:52
What's in me? If you did if you get shit?
3:29:54
Well, I mean I'm fine. Here's a thing, man.
3:29:57
I'm not trying to say the name of any bipolar people with a
3:30:02
domestic violence record for beating the shit out of children
3:30:05
with disability, okay? All right.
3:30:08
I'm she had a day. She had a day.
3:30:16
Um anyway, so that type of thing.
3:30:19
I don't respect and it's it's it.
3:30:22
It's okay, sweetheart. That's enough.
3:30:24
We get the point, okay. So so um, I didn't want to start
3:30:29
anything with this person. I still really don't.
3:30:31
I mean, I could but the thing is, like, I'm I'm trying to be
3:30:37
relatively decent to some of these people into approach them
3:30:40
where they're at and I I wish I had done maybe a little more of
3:30:44
that my first round around doing this to like, take into
3:30:49
consideration people's. Experiences, limited capacities,
3:30:54
emotional and psychological profiles tendency to one type of
3:30:58
behavior, or emotional manipulation, and an approach
3:31:01
people with, at least a little bit more of, you know, not
3:31:04
taking everyone as, as a, you know, a replicated, monolith of
3:31:08
a human being. But like, you know, really
3:31:10
recognize that there's identity components to each one of these
3:31:13
these people. But in terms of the
3:31:16
manifestation of a level of just a basic human decency and
3:31:20
respect, I stand true with the idea that if you're going to
3:31:24
throw shit around and you're going to say garbage and you're
3:31:27
going to say nonsense like Ben is decided to do or, or any of
3:31:31
the other DP cases decided to do to Brett or me, why can you not
3:31:36
be man enough to confront the person that you want to talk
3:31:40
shit about, you know? Because I invite these people in
3:31:43
my room all the time, they come in and they start talking shit
3:31:45
at the panel. Well, they got about three or
3:31:47
four comments before, they're just going to start getting
3:31:49
timed out. You're not going to waste my
3:31:51
time. I am and clog up my side chat
3:31:53
with bulshit, you're going to come in the room and get home
3:31:55
proper. You know, that's kind of my take
3:31:57
on it. So so I don't have any respect
3:32:00
for these people that throw garbage, like been like some of
3:32:04
the DP crew and stuff like that and then just run away.
3:32:07
You've been really decent and you've been here and had a great
3:32:10
conversation and you even watched these people.
3:32:12
So I have to give you Kudos, you have at least shattered a little
3:32:16
bit of my cynicism that all the people that follow DP are low
3:32:21
thinking, low intelligence gutter trash.
3:32:23
So I appreciate that. Oh yeah, before you guys before
3:32:27
you guys can continue Lucian, check this out next time, she's
3:32:32
in and she's going off and somebody I got this for sure,
3:32:34
she'll love it. So I actually wanted to bring
3:32:45
this up as well. I I this just came to mind.
3:32:47
I'm actually a very good buddies on Facebook and I talked to him
3:32:51
on the phone sometimes with if you remember G time Johnny from
3:32:55
the DP days, they would G time Johnny would be a guy.
3:33:01
He's a guy from California who they would feature on the
3:33:04
drunken peasants a lot. He wasn't actually on the show
3:33:06
like you were but they would show his videos a lot and he was
3:33:09
just a Centric hippie kind of like it kind of guy had his
3:33:15
philosophy about like, He had this like white, he would have
3:33:19
this white board and he'd ride on it about like the origins of
3:33:23
words and what he called word slavery and societal slavery and
3:33:27
stuff like that. He they would mostly make fun of
3:33:30
him because he was kind of, kind of, you know, a little nutty and
3:33:33
he was unintentionally pretty funny.
3:33:35
I became friends with him on Facebook.
3:33:38
Actually, I reached out to him because I wanted to talk to him
3:33:40
myself and I've been friends with him for a number of years
3:33:43
now and I asked him because he and Paul used to have quite the
3:33:47
reporter. and they went on the show, but they would actually
3:33:51
like He got his number, they would text.
3:33:53
And sometimes G time Johnny would She come Johnny, would
3:33:58
show up in a holiday and talk to Paul through his chat.
3:34:01
So I asked him. I said, hey man, well not see if
3:34:07
I can ask Paul, if you can come in a Heidi sometime, I mean he
3:34:11
probably won't answer me or whatever or maybe you can go in
3:34:14
a Heidi if you want to talk to him because Paul had blocked him
3:34:17
blocked. His number for some reason and
3:34:19
he was kind of heartbroken about that.
3:34:21
He never understood. Why?
3:34:22
Because he's a little different from I don't, he's not mentally
3:34:25
ill, so to speak. But he's just kind of different
3:34:27
and I told Johnny well hey man he does.
3:34:32
He's a Cardiology is almost every day on YouTube.
3:34:35
You just type this in your pop and chat a lot, when he's alive
3:34:38
and he said, man, he blocked me, he won't even talk to me.
3:34:42
He won't give me the time of day.
3:34:44
I don't understand it and then if your buddies with the guy,
3:34:47
you can tell me, welcome to come in on the shows.
3:34:50
Sure. Obviously, we're not gonna be
3:34:52
mean to him, but I know Paul wouldn't mean to him or
3:34:55
anything. He used to be friends with him,
3:34:56
it's just I just wondered. So I try to ask Paul and Paul
3:35:01
never acknowledged me, but like somebody else actually asked
3:35:05
him. No kidding.
3:35:06
Like somebody else asked him and he answered them and he they're
3:35:09
like, why don't you talk to G time Johnny anymore?
3:35:12
What about G time Johny and he said Oh, I'm not friends with
3:35:16
somebody who kicks his dog and daughter.
3:35:18
So I asked Johnny about that. I said, they said you did a
3:35:22
video where you got angry and kicked your dog.
3:35:24
And he said, oh no, no, no, I didn't kick my dog.
3:35:26
He said, He said. I was.
3:35:30
He said I hit my foot on something that was on the ground
3:35:33
and on my leg flew up, my dog was next to me, it didn't even
3:35:37
touch my dog and he said Ben and Ben and Paul started saying that
3:35:41
I hit my dog. and, I was like the accusation.
3:35:48
I got they go around telling everybody a fuk dog.
3:35:51
So yeah, what are you gonna do? I I just I think the large
3:35:56
amount of that shit is really just come comes down to Content
3:35:59
and comedy and stuff like that, but at the same time I do agree.
3:36:02
Like I'm just not. Like if somebody's disabled, I
3:36:07
don't I don't want to fuck on them.
3:36:08
Like what does that? What does that do?
3:36:12
Yeah, I don't understand. Now I do you know I just want to
3:36:17
put this out there too. Like you know whatever
3:36:20
differences and you buy had us still want to say rest in peace
3:36:23
to To John Crawley pit Monk. And I want to say rest in peace
3:36:28
the Joshua face Sanders king cobra JFS And, you know, I want
3:36:33
to say that I like, I like Ben, I like TJ.
3:36:37
I like call and Scotty and I like, you and I have no dog in
3:36:41
anybody's fight and I just want everybody to know that.
3:36:44
So if Ben's watching and he wants to call me a retard, he's
3:36:46
free to do so I think it'd be funny but if not that's cool
3:36:50
too. It.
3:36:52
I'm just saying like this is not me picking or choosing aside.
3:36:57
This is just, I'm just a curious person, you know, you don't have
3:37:01
to, you don't have to continuously you.
3:37:04
I don't know if you realize it but you kind of for the last 10
3:37:07
times you've been like hey I like these guys all that.
3:37:10
I hope they attack you. I hope they don't attack your
3:37:13
give you any shit and things are cool.
3:37:15
But Smoky I was curious. Are you still there?
3:37:18
Give you that? Tell him to come, talk to me.
3:37:20
I know, it's not even that I'm just clarifying.
3:37:23
I'm also doing it for Britt Smith, I'm saying, I'm not here
3:37:26
to make fun of Brad either. I'm not here to understand that
3:37:30
you, but I was curious to smoke, he had a chance to see my lady
3:37:36
this video. I know you've been driving
3:37:38
around today and picked up blue and all that, but I did, you get
3:37:40
a chance to see which video Well, I it's it's basically I
3:37:47
don't know if you know I gave the sky a nickname.
3:37:50
I call him the shit biscuit. Did you see the shit?
3:37:52
Oh, I didn't know. I didn't see that video or
3:37:57
something. Is that the other guy that was
3:37:59
on DP? Is that who it was?
3:38:00
Yeah. Like, he's owns out and he's not
3:38:04
all there. That's the actual Sheboygan
3:38:06
that's in here. Watching.
3:38:07
Yeah, it was, I went and clicked on it.
3:38:09
Yeah, I went and clicked on his channel, it was actually him.
3:38:12
That stopped it because like 82,000 subs or something.
3:38:15
But No, no, he wasn't, streaming know.
3:38:19
He's, he's well by the way, he's, he's in.
3:38:23
I mean, he's in the dumpster. I mean, this Channel's got
3:38:25
82,000 Subs, where they can't even pull a couple hundred views
3:38:28
for a while. That's horrible.
3:38:29
I got, I got 600 views from my wife, the other night.
3:38:32
I mean, that's like, you know, I only got 300 Subs, you know?
3:38:35
So let's like that horrible. All right, A lot of people
3:38:40
believe they bought Bots because the guy, the guy in the video
3:38:43
that I actually covered, he's got less than 30 likes on it and
3:38:48
under 20 comments, 80,000, the sub count has to be fucking
3:38:54
fake. That's yeah, it's got to, it's
3:38:57
those numbers. Don't matter out.
3:38:59
That's crazy. Yeah.
3:39:00
So real quick, errand, I was wanting to hear what you and
3:39:04
Smoky think about this. My last video was about this, I
3:39:07
went over to the ship biscuits Channel and I noticed that he
3:39:10
had a video where he was asking for money for John that's who my
3:39:15
x's catfish. Boy.
3:39:17
So what ends up happening is is that I'm looking at it and I go
3:39:21
over to the GoFundMe and I notice the money's going
3:39:24
directly to Caruso which is the ship biscuit.
3:39:27
Are you following me? Yeah, I'm following you.
3:39:29
So I'm wondering to myself because I know for a fucking
3:39:32
fact because I watched some of that monk X's videos, he said
3:39:37
that he takes care of his family that he's the breadwinner in the
3:39:40
house. Yeah, right.
3:39:41
But if let's say he is, let's entertain that Monks had on
3:39:46
countless occasions that he has money from YouTube and all of
3:39:51
the shed is Cash apps. Everything rounded to his family
3:39:54
so they can pay their bills and get shit.
3:39:57
Now that's possible to do that. I I don't doubt that but what
3:40:01
I'm wondering is if that's the fucking case in this video's are
3:40:04
still up in his monetized then why the fuck his career?
3:40:08
So asking for people to put money in his account instead of
3:40:11
my cats Well, what I can say about that is if dp's if if Ben
3:40:18
and or should be here watching from DP, maybe they can answer
3:40:22
that question. I love an explanation for that
3:40:25
because I'd be damned terrible. I mean they've been claiming any
3:40:28
such a great fucking friend. Then why is it that they didn't
3:40:31
give the routing number? The fucking PayPal of the actual
3:40:35
family and do it that way? Give pimp monks money.
3:40:38
He said it was going directly to his loved ones anyway.
3:40:41
And then guy had quadruple the amount that DP does.
3:40:45
So, you know, his money he's getting like 15 fucking Grand a
3:40:49
month even while being gone. So this family and hurting for
3:40:53
nothing, Something been made a point about the other night, was
3:40:57
a actually regarding stuff like that.
3:41:01
He said. He was on the saying he was
3:41:05
actually talking about you. Something to do with subscribers
3:41:08
and DP failing and stuff like that.
3:41:10
He actually said that. Yeah, I admit I don't have the
3:41:13
same number of subscribers. I don't, it's not as popular and
3:41:16
I'm probably am a little burnout and but I don't care.
3:41:19
I just like doing the show. I just do it because it's fine
3:41:21
and stuff like that. And So like I know that like he
3:41:27
said, like he felt like you were making it a competition about.
3:41:31
You know, drunken peasants not so fucking his head.
3:41:36
He's the one that does that. I'm not gonna go talk to Brett
3:41:39
Keane or Smoky, because why would I do that?
3:41:41
They don't have any subscribers and Views.
3:41:43
He's the one that says that shit all the time on all's I'm doing
3:41:47
is saying, hey buddy, you need to quit waving your dick around
3:41:51
and shit because you ain't what you think you are.
3:41:53
That's all I'm doing. I'm just responding, but here's
3:41:57
the thing. If I'm too irrelevant or a
3:42:00
conversation, then I'm too irrelevant to be covered on the
3:42:03
show. Okay, it's not you don't you
3:42:06
don't get to have it both ways, you don't get to be like oh it's
3:42:10
worth it for me to spend two hours of my show covering Brett
3:42:14
Keane on Smokey's Channel and restring Smokey's Channel.
3:42:17
And then say I'm a waste of time to talk to you look like a
3:42:23
cowardly idiot when you say that I can take up all the time on
3:42:26
your show for you to start and stop my video and mute it, and
3:42:30
talk over me and all that stuff. But you can't have me in for a
3:42:33
conversation because I am too around.
3:42:36
That is fucking retarded. And here I am a DP and a deep
3:42:41
fat fried fan talking to you. Oh no, that's fine.
3:42:45
But what why do you get my critique sir?
3:42:50
My critique isn't it? You buy critique?
3:42:52
Is it been who will dedicate hours of his stream to talk
3:42:55
about me? But say I'm too small to talk to
3:42:59
and I'm too small to talk to. How am I not too small to talk
3:43:02
about? I don't understand, I was saying
3:43:05
like if I'm if I a fan of his show and TJ Show and on here,
3:43:09
I'm I don't see why they couldn't.
3:43:11
You know what I mean. Well, that's my kid.
3:43:14
Yeah, that's my I don't say. I mean, to me it's clearly an
3:43:18
excuse to be empowered. And not have to talk to me
3:43:22
directly and get, you know, wrecked proper style.
3:43:25
As he knows, he would Ben is not a particularly intelligent, man,
3:43:28
in my opinion. That's just how I see it.
3:43:30
Everyone can disagree with me. That's why I think he would even
3:43:33
agree to that. He's just like he said, like,
3:43:35
you know, I'm just like making entertainment, that's why.
3:43:38
But but at the same time, if you're gonna throw shit at me
3:43:41
and you didn't get dedicated time to me on the on your show
3:43:43
and you're only excuse, you can come up with to not engage is
3:43:48
that I'm too small or too irrelevant?
3:43:50
Yeah. I'm taking up time on your show
3:43:52
covering me. Well, that's just a pop out.
3:43:54
That's just that's what you making an excuse.
3:43:56
I could also, I mean, you could actually make more of that case
3:43:59
for someone like Jared Genesis who he covers constantly.
3:44:03
Who like I mean I don't know if you know about Jared Genesis.
3:44:06
I'm pretty sure you have no idea.
3:44:08
I have no idea. He's this guy who been cars.
3:44:11
I don't follow drunken peasants. I I don't listen to them.
3:44:15
I don't follow them. I don't know much about them.
3:44:17
Jared Jared has like almost practically no following but
3:44:23
been follows him and watches his videos and this guy's basically
3:44:27
like truly irrelevant but Ben will show his videos constantly
3:44:32
and and rightful and rightfully so make fun of him because the
3:44:35
guys kind of a creep, like an actual creep, like the shit that
3:44:39
he accuses you or whoever of like this guy really does do
3:44:43
that shit. And so been rightfully does make
3:44:45
fun of this guy but to me if he says that you're too irrelevant
3:44:49
to cover, then then I'm saying then Jerry Genesis who has
3:44:53
almost like no real following in any way.
3:44:56
Is super irrelevant. Can I hold on?
3:45:01
It's something to irrelevant to cover its unto her relevant to
3:45:04
talk to? I don't understand how you're
3:45:08
going to say how you're going to say I'm relevant enough to cover
3:45:10
but not relevant enough to talk to you.
3:45:13
That's my critique. That's my bad.
3:45:15
Yeah my bad dude. Oh yeah.
3:45:21
I'm misconstrued that that's yeah that's where I'm at with
3:45:24
it. It's just to me because then at
3:45:26
that point it looks like you're making an excuse to not have to
3:45:29
confront me and like I mean he's the one that sat there on his
3:45:33
channel and said, oh, we're never known who you are.
3:45:36
If you run, you know, Run cover for Brett Kane and now who I
3:45:40
know you are, and you're a target of DP.
3:45:42
All right, asshole, then come talk to me.
3:45:44
Make me a fucking Target. Go ahead.
3:45:46
Let's throw it out. Let's talk.
3:45:47
You want to throw shit at me. Let's see.
3:45:49
Let's go ahead. You want to do that?
3:45:50
Let's do it. But no, no, now all the sudden
3:45:53
when I'm ready to throw down with the guy to confront him
3:45:56
with his bulshit, and it is bulshit, by the way, all the
3:45:59
sudden he wants to talk Taylor run.
3:46:01
That's fucked. That's a fuk that's a fucked up
3:46:04
thing to do this thing. Shit about someone and then
3:46:07
refused to actually confront. I'm your fucking coward frankly
3:46:10
in my book, if that's what you do.
3:46:12
If that's the type of shit you do to me as a target of what
3:46:15
you're low IQ. Zoomer audience, Target of what
3:46:19
Ben what are you gonna make me a Target of exactly you dump on.
3:46:23
So this one, I'm saying, like, if you're gonna throw this shit,
3:46:26
how the fucking spine to be able to confront the man, you're
3:46:29
going to talk shit about. Target of what asshole fuking.
3:46:33
Bad humor and cringy. Takes yeah great.
3:46:35
So fucking scared. I gotta, I would like to ask you
3:46:41
a question Aaron and stuff, okay, I believe I've been very
3:46:44
respectful and answering your questions and all that have you
3:46:48
had the opportunity to see ttr's video?
3:46:52
Uh, the only actually, the only tto are I've ever seen was
3:46:57
actually the other night on drunken peasants when he made
3:46:59
that Rod polisher joke, you know, I'm talking about his
3:47:02
latest video. Oh no no no.
3:47:04
Like the most recently he did a video basically showing you
3:47:08
talking on Reddit to been saying that you were going to come in
3:47:11
and try to fuk with me know I was know what was actually
3:47:16
happening was that people were repressing me about shit and I
3:47:19
was like, I don't know. You actually started the the
3:47:22
whole article. You said I'm gonna be going.
3:47:24
Brett, King invited me and I'm gonna go in there.
3:47:27
Been you got anything I can get him with and all that?
3:47:30
I know this the whole time before we even started, this
3:47:34
video was made almost after you did that.
3:47:37
But I wanted to tell you something.
3:47:38
You're welcome to come to my room.
3:47:40
I appreciate your behavior. You realize that comes up pretty
3:47:44
fucked up, right? I worded that really badly and
3:47:48
it came off really stupid. I was just nervous.
3:47:50
And I I typed in like, I don't know, I thought maybe I tried to
3:47:54
like ask, you know, journalists you know like ask some personal
3:47:58
questions, I'm like, try to work around and see if what you're
3:48:01
cool with and stuff I worded. Shit.
3:48:03
Kind of, do you know that Ben was going to tell you?
3:48:06
Oh, he's alive what I asked Ben was like because I didn't know
3:48:15
what to expect. so the the only person I thought, maybe maybe
3:48:21
been can give me some pointers on how to like, What I could ask
3:48:25
or whatever. Just like I was like the Emily
3:48:28
question and some of the other stuff.
3:48:29
Yeah. So I I'm sure you've seen that
3:48:33
post. I know you just said you did and
3:48:35
liked. It was worded.
3:48:36
Really dumb? And I didn't mean to come across
3:48:38
like that. It's okay, dude, I already knew
3:48:41
about the deal and I already, I hope you understand.
3:48:44
I already expect right off the bat whenever a person comes and
3:48:48
says, they're DB fan, whatever I'm being recorded.
3:48:51
I figure commenting on their, we're asking me the shit.
3:48:56
And then I was like just fucking around with them and being you
3:49:00
know, just like haha a lot of this bullshit dude.
3:49:02
Like I I promise you don't have anything to worry about so I
3:49:06
hope you there's one last thing. I hope you understand me.
3:49:10
And Smoky we like humor we like comedy, we we have a different
3:49:15
taste and things like this, but people have been threatening to
3:49:19
kill people. You are people have been wanting
3:49:21
to drop the docks of this man. He's getting And ready to get
3:49:25
married and have a baby, and they're doing some pretty
3:49:27
fucking miserable shit to this, man.
3:49:29
So that's why Smokies. Worked up.
3:49:31
If if you want to say, oh, Smokey fucking bald and Brett,
3:49:35
keen's, a big fat fucking blimp fine, but the docs dropping, and
3:49:40
the one to kill people said that's, that's not so funny for
3:49:43
us. What I was trying to say on that
3:49:46
article and that little Reddit thing was just like I was just
3:49:50
trying to, I don't know how to put it like speak their
3:49:53
language. So to speak like haha what can I
3:49:55
do with some funny shit or whatever?
3:49:57
It came out really dumb. I sorry about that, like Yeah I
3:50:02
was I was like yeah man. No way.
3:50:06
You realize I hope that you do realize and yourself where
3:50:09
enough to know that if this was vice versa and you were on Ben
3:50:13
show and he found out you did that, you know he'd fucking just
3:50:16
annihilate you but I'm not gonna do that.
3:50:18
I'm going invite you to participate in for the future
3:50:22
shows. What?
3:50:23
I hope that we can be actual genuine friends.
3:50:26
One day, I I put it like this. Like when I ever I typed that
3:50:31
out, I typed it out in a sense that like I didn't really like,
3:50:36
I like I genuinely wanted to like learn this stuff and like
3:50:41
maybe I can get some. I said I want to get some
3:50:43
personal stuff or find out about the Emily situation because I
3:50:47
didn't really know. I don't I don't know these
3:50:49
things. Like I said I don't go on the
3:50:51
I'm not a, I don't go into people's personal lives and
3:50:54
stuff. I was just like, and I was
3:50:55
trying to speak their language and be like, haha, what could I
3:50:58
squeezed out of and what can I get some for?
3:50:59
You know, maybe been could give me these because I didn't have
3:51:03
any ideas of what I could ask you at the time.
3:51:05
I get it, I get it right back in a minute.
3:51:09
I gotta go rest area, right? So Smoky and you, if you want to
3:51:15
have a camera, I'll be right back.
3:51:17
I don't have no hate towards you, man.
3:51:19
I've been on here for 20 years. I've seen it I really don't have
3:51:28
any any personal anything or any ill-will towards anybody.
3:51:32
The way I worded that was in a way, like, it was sort of
3:51:36
supposed to be. It makes of like, I'm genuinely
3:51:38
curious. I want to ask these things and I
3:51:41
was just trying to be like Hey DP guys, you know, speak their
3:51:46
language and be like what could I ask him?
3:51:48
What can I or maybe been could give me some ideas of what I
3:51:50
could ask him. It was meant to be any sort of
3:51:53
hit piece or anything like that. I worded it like shit because
3:51:56
like I made it I'm kind of fucking autistic.
3:51:59
So I I mean, I'm sorry about that.
3:52:03
I'm like if I want what I really want to do, at the end of the
3:52:06
day is like well I'm thinking is like if I could find something
3:52:09
out, good bad or otherwise, they're not gonna let you guys
3:52:13
know. And that's what I want to do.
3:52:17
And that's me, I think I think how you how you came in the
3:52:20
room. And approach is a lot more
3:52:21
important than how even you said you were gonna approach, even if
3:52:24
you even if you started by saying, I'm gonna go in and
3:52:27
fuck. Brett, Keane, sideways up a
3:52:29
ladder, you know, the fact that you came in and just engaged,
3:52:31
I'm sure that said something along.
3:52:33
There's some common for that was like, oh, this or that.
3:52:36
And I'm like, yeah, dude, haha, right, right.
3:52:40
Yeah, no, I yeah, I, I think the fact that you came in the way
3:52:43
you did preempts anything that you were saying to kind of get
3:52:47
ideas, I was trying to be kind of funny and I it fell on his
3:52:52
face. So, Well, I mean, I don't care
3:52:56
personally, that's a breath with you.
3:52:59
I want to tell you. My name was like it was like,
3:53:03
Was like King King. Big dick or something like that
3:53:08
or something. And I was Aaron McBrayer.
3:53:11
You can look me up. I mean, like so I promise, I had
3:53:14
no real ill intentions or anything.
3:53:15
I was just trying to be coy and tongue-in-cheek or whatever.
3:53:19
I was trying to, you know, way speak to the DP crowd and say,
3:53:24
hey advice. I had never talked to the guy
3:53:27
before so you guys have been has so maybe you know, you know,
3:53:32
this is a this is a real problem, I think.
3:53:35
And I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna pour this out because, you
3:53:38
know, The way that some of the sun's up, going some ways and
3:53:42
some of the hypocrisy and I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna rehash
3:53:46
some of the relatively recent history with me and Brett and
3:53:49
stuff, because we, we've we've figured out a way to come to
3:53:52
terms with each other, on a lot of things.
3:53:54
And And Brad, of course, has a lot of positive things to say
3:53:58
about me, even when we were fighting, he'd always, you know,
3:54:00
how positive things to say about me?
3:54:02
So I, my, my kind of my kind of look is this.
3:54:08
I'm concerned with the idea that drunken peasants and even Deep
3:54:12
Fat fried, Um, and I don't think TJ really has much to do with
3:54:17
Brent anymore. I know been kind of covers him a
3:54:19
lot, but on the, on dff, it's mostly Paul's thing.
3:54:23
Yeah, so I don't and again, I don't really follow these people
3:54:28
or these environments, my wife has been a fan for years.
3:54:31
My wife knows DP and that, but I don't, I never really followed.
3:54:37
It wasn't really my jam. it wasn't something I really had
3:54:40
much to do with but as of recently like in terms of Ben's
3:54:45
attacks, I'm noticing this idea that and I don't know if been
3:54:49
Maybe Ben realizes this. As this is kind of part of the
3:54:51
stick and what he's avoiding. But the last thing Ben would
3:54:55
want is to present the idea that random unsubstantiated stories
3:55:03
on the internet should be believed without question wanted
3:55:06
to clear up. Yeah, and I think, I think, you
3:55:10
know, for, For a Moment of clarity just to kind of focus on
3:55:14
the meta of this first second. I hope you can see my rationale.
3:55:20
When I look at this, these are people who tend to, probably,
3:55:25
not universally, but 10 to lean atheistic.
3:55:28
Which means that they have a belief that in order to have a
3:55:32
Justified true belief, there has to have be a sufficient standard
3:55:35
of evidence to justify the belief.
3:55:38
It seems like they throw that right out the goddamn window.
3:55:42
When any information comes out against someone they don't like
3:55:46
all the sudden. They don't really need much
3:55:47
evidence at all. I had a meta.
3:55:50
I think that looks embarrassing. That you know to basically
3:55:55
claimed that you are somehow, the more evolved Intelligentsia
3:55:59
of society that's more rational and coherent and only believe
3:56:03
things with good justification to have such a giant flocks.
3:56:07
In terms of demonstrating that really, you'll adopt any belief
3:56:11
as long as it, you know, and, you know, as long as it
3:56:13
satisfies, your emotional desires.
3:56:16
Like, you know, like, like people that follow Ben for
3:56:20
instance, probably don't put a lot of weight in the story
3:56:24
surrounding him, even though, you know, to their standard with
3:56:28
the shit, they throw at, that should absolutely be believed.
3:56:32
And so, so really, I see this Grand hypocrisy from these
3:56:37
people attacking Brett from from basically, a position that they
3:56:40
have no leg to stand on, you know, because the very thing,
3:56:44
the very standard, they would attempt to and want to
3:56:47
emotionally driven to apply to brat.
3:56:50
They don't want to apply to themselves.
3:56:52
They don't want to apply to bend.
3:56:53
They don't want to apply to TJ. They don't want to apply to any
3:56:56
of the others suddenly suddenly when it comes to their friends,
3:57:00
oh now they need an incredible amount of evidence to believe
3:57:02
something. But for Brett, they just need
3:57:05
some random bulshit story on the internet and then everyone's
3:57:08
like, yep, it happened. You know I mean the grand
3:57:11
hypocrisy of it is just staggering to me to me.
3:57:15
Yeah I don't like that either because I don't because like
3:57:18
when it comes to attacking someone's personal life,
3:57:21
threatening people doxxing people that's just like Like
3:57:25
this is a low dude. I just don't have a need for
3:57:28
anything like that and like I and I put it this way.
3:57:31
If I was a coming in coming into the show, Even before it
3:57:36
started, I I came into into the show.
3:57:40
Genuinely curious and interested and like respectable and like, I
3:57:44
like, I'll put it this way if I didn't, if I thought, if I was
3:57:49
gonna fuck with you all and if I'm gonna get on, I'm going to
3:57:51
troll them. I'm gonna, I'm gonna say the
3:57:53
inward. All the sudden we are, I
3:57:55
wouldn't have cared if you did. And I I wouldn't have given you
3:57:59
my real name and and I'm pretty shy.
3:58:02
I want to play guitar for you, right?
3:58:04
Oh, if that makes sense. I know take it for what it's
3:58:07
worth, but I will if I really was gonna just like that post
3:58:10
said, Or the way you took or whatever.
3:58:14
Oh, I didn't take it anyway, because I didn't even see it.
3:58:16
But that's, yeah, it was the way when Brett saw it and I wouldn't
3:58:22
have given them. My real name, nor would I even
3:58:24
played guitar for him, because I'm a shy guy.
3:58:26
I don't just play guitar for anybody.
3:58:28
And well, there's there's no reason for you to be worried or
3:58:32
concerned of any kind of anxiety.
3:58:34
In fact, me and Stony me and Smoky over here, we've actually
3:58:40
adopted some of the old DP fans and all that hellies.
3:58:43
He considers one of them like a brother to him and all that.
3:58:46
So it's We're not gonna go all fuck.
3:58:49
It's time to, you know, put this guy to a basketball fucking
3:58:52
piano or something like that, but I want you to, I want you to
3:58:55
see something because the claims that I've made in response to
3:58:59
them, I want you to. I want you guys to be able to
3:59:02
see. This isn't just some bullshit
3:59:04
claims I've made, so, I'm gonna put a link in the private chat
3:59:08
for you. I cannot put the song on YouTube
3:59:10
because it's pretty miserable, but can you check that out real
3:59:14
quick? You have the way to be able to
3:59:16
look at that. Oh, look at the chat.
3:59:21
It's in private chat for you. I can't put that Smokey, I think
3:59:26
is already seen this. I have actually heard about that
3:59:30
peripheral peripheral like heard about that because like, I
3:59:35
remember on Reddit, like years ago, saying, stuff about people
3:59:40
saying some things about TJ, but to be honest with you it ain't
3:59:43
really go past like, Reddit comments.
3:59:45
This is actually the Amazing Atheist himself on video with a
3:59:51
microphone saying that he has been little girls.
3:59:54
All right, that's him. Actually saying it.
3:59:56
If you go click on it, it immediately starts up and you'll
4:00:00
see him. It's about a five minute video.
4:00:02
When you have an opportunity, you don't have to watch it right
4:00:05
now. But this is the reason why.
4:00:07
Now I'm, I'm an older man. I'm a father.
4:00:10
I've got two young adults as my children and all that.
4:00:14
How do you think a person's gonna react when they see that?
4:00:16
What would a normal person do? If they see some guy in a video?
4:00:20
See some show like, oh no, I absolutely.
4:00:23
But like I want to ask you though, are you 100% sure he
4:00:27
was. In joking.
4:00:30
He said that he was banging young girls and all that.
4:00:33
I I don't know how to take that as a joke.
4:00:36
Now I hey, I listened to George Carlin.
4:00:38
I've listened to Robin Williams, Richard, Pryor at his fucking
4:00:41
Peak and I'm good with humor. Smokey, would you say I got a
4:00:45
good sense of humor? Well, the reason I asked even if
4:00:48
it's a bad joke, are you sure it's not?
4:00:51
Are you sure though? He wasn't just even if it's a
4:00:55
bad joke. Like are you sure he wasn't just
4:00:56
making shit up and just fucking around?
4:00:58
Do you think pedophilia is funny?
4:01:00
No. Important.
4:01:03
There you go. It sounds like you.
4:01:05
And I have common ground on that.
4:01:07
He said it, I didn't say it. I didn't write the shit.
4:01:10
I didn't write whatever nonsense.
4:01:12
He's doing. No, I'll take a look at it later
4:01:14
and I'll make my own judgment. And if now no real quick, as far
4:01:19
as bin goes, been started, all kinds of me for the last decade.
4:01:24
I just recently some this was DP fans that did this to Ben, make
4:01:29
sure you let him know if you ever talk to him, they came to
4:01:33
me and they said, Brad, have you seen this?
4:01:35
I'm like, what the fuck is it? They gave me videos to where the
4:01:38
two women that allegedly been fucked as minors.
4:01:43
All right, so I go, I watch. It's a transgender who is
4:01:48
interviewing the two females? One of them is Taylor Kirk.
4:01:51
I think, you know, who that is. And that Ben did that, sorry.
4:01:57
I actually wanted to just correct that sorry, um, Taylor
4:02:02
Was not a minor when Ben did elect when she's accusing been
4:02:07
of doing what he allegedly did. And I can't attest all he did or
4:02:12
didn't but Taylor was age of majority, but she does a cues
4:02:16
that it was non-consensual. Right?
4:02:19
She got roofied. What?
4:02:21
That's what she alleges. Yes.
4:02:24
To be fair to been on this issue, it was a little difficult
4:02:28
to hear some of the stuff in the interview.
4:02:31
The girl comes through clear, but the transgender keeps
4:02:34
snorting and picking her fucking nose and making it hard.
4:02:40
You're what hurts? Yeah, it is Jamie darkie. yeah,
4:02:46
but That well, that is why. DP split up the first time is
4:02:51
because of these allegations Oh, and I I hate to say it.
4:02:55
I'm gonna I don't love to say it all the time but I used to be a
4:02:58
DP fan way before this happened. Like when I was like 13 14.
4:03:02
So like 10 years ago, I mean it, I barely I'm be honest with you.
4:03:07
Since TJ, Scotty and Paul left. I barely watch it.
4:03:09
I'm more of a dfl. Yeah it wasn't worth watching it
4:03:14
J fan. Yeah you know TJ's funny and I
4:03:18
find him inspiring and insightful like Paul's.
4:03:22
Alright, he can be really funny. Scotty's cool.
4:03:24
And been like it was funny with the fellas but like, you know,
4:03:28
like I said, when they left, I kind of like, I barely wash it,
4:03:31
sometimes I talked in the other night for the cobra stuff, Well,
4:03:36
I think that you, you know, why I think that Ben hates me for
4:03:38
Lou and smoky. Why you have the main reason I
4:03:43
think is whenever I was on their first like a first or second
4:03:47
episode, I can't Alzheimer's the paycheck, I got for doing it
4:03:51
really but while I was on there, we were going back and forth,
4:03:56
all the guys and then was being all quiet over there.
4:03:58
And then he said, a couple things to me and I got snarky
4:04:02
with them and I said, dude, just go back to work in the fucking
4:04:04
that's all you're here for. Nobody gives a fuk about you and
4:04:08
I said, it's really The Amazing Atheist and Paul why anybody
4:04:11
comes to this thing in my participation so you just sit
4:04:15
back to fuck that have a Coke and smile.
4:04:17
So fucked up, I mean for that reason, I started watching this
4:04:22
was for teaching and being honesty.
4:04:26
Of course, of course. And I've said it, I've said it
4:04:28
repeatedly, TJ was the one that brought all those fucking
4:04:32
subscribers from his main channel to that.
4:04:34
Nobody knew who Ben was Ben knew he was a nobody it's why he wore
4:04:38
the Rey Mysterio mask back then I remember that.
4:04:41
Yeah, for years now you know, look regardless of whatever that
4:04:48
post was I was trying to be coy tongue in cheek.
4:04:52
You came off really stupid and it came off the wrong way and I
4:04:55
apologize for that. It's all right, man.
4:04:58
It's all right. I hope that whenever you go back
4:05:01
to your buddies and all that though they let him know.
4:05:03
Hey, I had a pretty fucking cold conversation.
4:05:06
You can even invite the other people of their open-minded, the
4:05:15
one have a conversation with me and smoking, but unfortunately,
4:05:18
for smoking, I don't think Ben will ever grow the balls to come
4:05:20
in and, and get, yeah, I know if he wasn't gonna do it right
4:05:24
away, then he's not, Going to, I think I mean, I don't know,
4:05:27
maybe his, maybe his chat puts a little pressure on him after a
4:05:30
while like, hey you gonna talk shit about the guy that you
4:05:33
can't even talk to him with you? Plus he I mean maybe if it's
4:05:35
chat starts chiming in and maybe but we'll see, I don't know.
4:05:38
Oh yeah. Like I said, Brett like I told
4:05:41
her Smoky earlier. I said you know what if you know
4:05:44
if I really was gonna come in here and fuck with you and be a
4:05:48
troll or whatever I want to give you my real name and I wouldn't
4:05:51
play guitar for you. So that's fair enough.
4:05:54
It's fair enough. And I've told you don't have to
4:05:57
be worried about it. I'm not gonna give you any shit
4:05:59
about it. I just want I did.
4:06:01
I'm just, you know, like, I told him I was trying to be tongue
4:06:05
and cheek a little bit Coy and like, hey, you know, but it came
4:06:08
off bad and I understand I understand All right, dude, I've
4:06:16
had a great time. I mean, if I go back, I told
4:06:18
him. Hey, I'll let him know.
4:06:20
What? I'll tell him hey you can go and
4:06:22
check it. I'll tell him.
4:06:24
It was very respectful to me, we had a great conversation about a
4:06:28
many topics and Smokey was super cool to me.
4:06:32
Every, what do you have any more questions that you'd like to
4:06:35
ask? I'm good, man.
4:06:39
Like a, we can do, just hang out if you keep screaming, if you
4:06:42
want to just hang out and just whatever, okay?
4:06:45
Now, I will make this clear cuz you never did get to this.
4:06:49
And so, this is usually, one of the big questions DP wanna know.
4:06:53
Do I look up on my family? Do I run down the highway and
4:06:57
jack off and shut everywhere. I fucking go.
4:06:59
No I I do not have that. Kind of endurance I'm 48 going
4:07:04
on 49, I don't have it in me to do that.
4:07:07
Kind of shut. All right, kind of endurance.
4:07:10
So there you go. I'm sorry if I've heard
4:07:14
anybody's feelings on that. I just don't know.
4:07:16
Sucks. Mean, are you telling me you
4:07:19
don't beat your wife? That sport know.
4:07:25
Oh man. Yeah dude.
4:07:27
Like the way I look at it is like I said I was being honest
4:07:30
earlier like I really am trying to make more of an effort just
4:07:33
to be more understanding with people and kinder to people
4:07:36
because I really I used to be a shit Lord.
4:07:38
I used to be like a 4chan troll kind of guy because I thought it
4:07:41
was funny in there. I never docks to anybody or
4:07:43
threatened to kill anybody or you know whatever but like But
4:07:49
like yeah, people today, everything's like so high stakes
4:07:53
and high tension, everybody's fucking at each other's throats
4:07:56
and even with the DP DFS, you that's kind of why I wanted to
4:08:01
be here. I want to be like, hey, let's
4:08:02
Bridge a gap. Let's let's reach an
4:08:04
understanding I hear you. Let's let's try to get some
4:08:09
different topics going though. What is your thoughts on this?
4:08:13
Rates of sexual offending. See that?
4:08:19
Are you able to see it? Lou as well?
4:08:22
Smoking can I let me see if I was born?
4:08:30
Yeah. You know, I keep seeing little.
4:08:32
Yeah, yeah. Hello.
4:08:35
I apologize. Love.
4:08:37
Sorry. Oh like that.
4:08:43
You know how I am smoking. So here's somebody says their
4:08:48
name is Bob. I said boob sucks and terrible.
4:08:52
So it's all good. It's funny.
4:08:55
All right. So are you guys able to see that
4:08:58
was? Yeah, yeah.
4:08:59
So what do you what is your views on?
4:09:02
Well? Hello.
4:09:03
How does it take on this? He put the graphics up with the
4:09:06
transgenders being the sexual offenders and stuff.
4:09:12
Can I give you actually a pretty?
4:09:13
Pretty interesting story about that.
4:09:16
You guys might enjoy this. So I will.
4:09:19
All right, let's hear. What I lived in Oklahoma.
4:09:22
I had a roommate who was trans. And, you know, as I whatever I
4:09:30
moved out there and I had I didn't know anybody and I was
4:09:34
working on the mall and I need to make a rent.
4:09:36
So I gotta find a roommate security guard walks up to me
4:09:39
and we start talking music. They play guitar.
4:09:40
We talked about same old school, metal, bands, and stuff.
4:09:43
I was like, okay. Anna.
4:09:45
I said, I'm looking for a roommate, blah blah, we move in.
4:09:51
turns out it was a trans woman, you know, who it's a trans woman
4:09:58
who still dresses masculine on the job and like, As time went
4:10:03
on. her him, her brother told me kind of pulled me aside and
4:10:10
said, hey, you know, I need to tell you something, you know,
4:10:15
like, So my he would refer to the trans woman as still his
4:10:24
brother because he couldn't accept so to speak.
4:10:27
You know, he did accept them as a person but like he had a hard
4:10:32
time, just kind of calling him or calling him a hero, so to
4:10:36
speak. And so he said, you know, before
4:10:40
she transitioned she was with this girl and got her pregnant
4:10:44
and while she was pregnant. they gotten a big argument and my
4:10:49
brother ended up, raping that woman and I said really And I
4:10:54
said, really are you serious? He said yeah I wouldn't lie
4:10:57
about that, you know it's my sibling and and so, I didn't
4:11:03
talk, I didn't bring that up to my roommate for a long time, but
4:11:07
I, I asked eventually I asked about it and he said, yeah, I
4:11:13
did it out of anger one time. That's not who I am blah blah
4:11:16
and then I then months go by and I'm like okay whatever one time
4:11:21
too many times for me, but Months, go by then.
4:11:28
I meet more and more people and I meet like co-workers I'm
4:11:32
getting to know more people and like some of the co-workers knew
4:11:36
this new this person and said, hey that ain't the only time
4:11:39
that's happened. I said you and I, and and like
4:11:46
come to say, come to find out like My roommate was into all
4:11:52
sorts of like and people can look me people gonna do what
4:11:56
ever. They want is whatever I don't
4:11:58
give a shit like I'm all about autonomy and like be yourself
4:12:02
whatever but like, They were getting down to some weird if
4:12:08
you don't mind me asking would you say the same thing if you
4:12:11
were to if you and I were to walk through the halls of the
4:12:14
psychiatric ward and someone said that they believed they
4:12:17
were a bird and they wanted to jump out the fucking window.
4:12:19
Would you say all right? Sure, I support.
4:12:25
No no, they're not a bird. Well, why wouldn't you why
4:12:29
wouldn't you identify him as a bird, if that's what they
4:12:31
believe they are, what's problem.
4:12:33
Every one of those things were like, if they want to believe
4:12:35
that, fuck it. I mean, don't jump out the
4:12:37
window but if that's you, you want to be crazy and shit, and
4:12:41
you go ahead, you know? I do see a difference in that
4:12:46
analogy. Just because like a bird is not
4:12:50
really a social role. You can fulfill in societies.
4:12:53
Like you can fulfill the social role of a woman, you're never
4:12:57
going to fully encapsulate, what it means to be a woman in a
4:13:00
literal sense. Like, you can never have kids,
4:13:03
you can never. You can never really fulfill the
4:13:05
teleology of a woman. Really?
4:13:08
What part of what? Part of a woman is?
4:13:11
A guy who believes that he's a woman?
4:13:13
What is it? What is this person actually
4:13:15
going to fulfill though? Well because what I'm saying is
4:13:18
like, you can still have like an essential feminine.
4:13:23
You're not gonna have a female experience, but you'll have a
4:13:25
feminine experience. Like you're still going to have
4:13:28
some of the same experiences that a woman would have.
4:13:32
And you're serious, isn't going to be quite that of a man.
4:13:35
It's like something in the middle because, like, women do
4:13:39
experience different things than that.
4:13:41
I would say as a whole that makes sense.
4:13:44
Like for example, somebody gonna look like a woman and that's
4:13:48
just for people who pass as the Ops gender, we're not talking
4:13:51
about people who don't have like Blair white Blaire.
4:13:55
White is not having a man's experience.
4:13:58
I would say she is pretty passable.
4:14:00
I would say yeah, nobody would ever think she was transgender.
4:14:04
Just looking at her, right? Now this by just saying.
4:14:09
So what? I just know, all I can say is I
4:14:11
am adding to what you were showing with the statistics.
4:14:14
It's like the I have nothing to say, if people want to do that,
4:14:17
they can do whatever they want. As long as they're not harming
4:14:19
people or whatever, but like I couldn't help but notice like I
4:14:22
said, I'm on, I'm gonna Observer of the world.
4:14:27
I couldn't help but notice that my roommate and the people they
4:14:31
associated with or into some deviant weird shit and I'm like
4:14:36
they carry themselves was a certain kind of attitude and
4:14:40
they kind of they all have like mental issues and they were just
4:14:45
like, All sleeping together and shit like that.
4:14:49
And and get and all this drama, he calls us all this drama with
4:14:53
him and shit. And And like I said, I have
4:14:56
known trains people who are not like that.
4:14:58
I've known people who are trans who are not like that.
4:14:59
All totally chill, but I couldn't help, but notice in
4:15:03
some circles, they're really seems to be this pension for
4:15:07
like, you know, lots of sexual irresponsibility and Mental
4:15:15
illness, abuse of drugs, in some cases like my roommate in.
4:15:19
I had cost me my rent money blowing up.
4:15:22
Blowing it on fucking Boot and drugs and I had to sell one of
4:15:26
my guitars to make rent. I was real pissed about that.
4:15:28
Yeah. I and I'm saying like I not its
4:15:33
associated with other deviant Behavior because these are
4:15:36
people as a rule. I'm not saying everybody, but a
4:15:39
lot of these people don't believe in objective moral.
4:15:42
A lot of people they just kind of think everything goes so why
4:15:46
would you I want to? I wanted to say hello real
4:15:49
quick, one of the reasons, one of the reasons why this topic is
4:15:52
brought up, I I didn't use to give a rat's ass about
4:15:56
transgenders or any of this shit.
4:15:58
I didn't care about homosexuality.
4:15:59
If you remember low I was an atheist for the longest time I
4:16:03
give a rat's ass but people do in their bedroom, right?
4:16:06
But it's not saying in the better, it doesn't stay in the
4:16:09
bedroom it's what he It wasn't my problem.
4:16:12
What my problem was low is that when I started getting our X
4:16:17
before Elon Musk took over, they have just every fucking time I
4:16:22
log into that shit and I go look, they just post after post
4:16:27
about somebody going, I'm a sir and then they punch a person in
4:16:31
the fucking face or not sit over in the store or the screaming
4:16:34
and yelling or I seen this one thing where transgender was
4:16:38
screaming at This Woman's five-year-old, don't call me
4:16:42
sir, I'll smack the shit out of your kids and all this shit.
4:16:45
When you see that over and over and over, it starts to become a
4:16:48
fucking problem in society. I agree with that.
4:16:52
I agree with that because I was saying like, you know, not trans
4:16:55
people who were super chill like hey, you know, you could hang
4:16:57
out with them. You would probably even like him
4:16:59
but I can't but I already told you I've been friends with
4:17:03
transgendered before not even one of them remember and know
4:17:07
but yeah these specific people. I'm just saying my like my
4:17:10
experience. With these specific people was,
4:17:12
I like lots of sexual irresponsibility financial
4:17:17
responsibility drug, use drama entitlement.
4:17:22
A lot of them were, just shity to people out in public, like
4:17:24
you were talking about. I don't like that at all.
4:17:27
And then you have these people And look. and it's like you have
4:17:33
these these people who and I and I'd argue with them, I'd say,
4:17:38
well, what about poor people? What about mentally people with
4:17:41
mental illness, I need help. Or what about poor people, that
4:17:43
need help that children women that need housing and food.
4:17:47
Why is everything a trans issue? Why is everything have to be a
4:17:50
trans issue or an lgbtq issue? Well because you know why, It's
4:17:56
because these people are narcissists.
4:17:58
A lot of this sexual paraphilia that these people engage in at
4:18:02
least in the case of people who like are you familiar with like
4:18:05
Auto kind of filia theory? Know.
4:18:09
So Auto Grand affiliate theory is essentially the theory that a
4:18:12
lot of these people. The reason that they like, do,
4:18:18
you know, are you on tiktok? Not only use tiktok, okay?
4:18:21
Because I was gonna say, do you know who Lily Tino is like this
4:18:24
person who got in trouble, like okay, so there's this person who
4:18:28
identifies says they identify as a woman.
4:18:30
I think that they don't really, I think they're just using that
4:18:33
as a cover to be a creepy weirdo, but they go into
4:18:36
bathrooms of places, primarily frequented by children like
4:18:40
Disneyland and take pictures of themselves, but really, they're
4:18:44
doing that to take pictures of the children in the bathroom
4:18:47
behind them even when the parents ask them to stop and
4:18:51
then now they're actually probably going to jail because
4:18:54
one of the mother's filed a criminal complaint about it.
4:18:56
All right I don't care what anybody identifies as if you
4:19:00
fuck with kids. If you if you're pregnant you
4:19:03
should just get shot in the fucking head.
4:19:04
Yeah absolutely. And this person is a man
4:19:07
pretending to be a woman and not I don't think they're a real
4:19:10
trans person so that's why I'm saying that this is a literal
4:19:13
man. Pretending to be a woman
4:19:14
dressing up. As a woman.
4:19:15
So they can go into the women's bathroom and take pictures of
4:19:17
little girls like that's what's happening.
4:19:20
And we're not going to jail that day.
4:19:23
Yeah, 100% 100%. Anybody is going to jail?
4:19:26
I'd be with you. I'd be with you smoking.
4:19:29
Yeah, 100%. Like what is wrong with people?
4:19:31
But like, basically Auto kind of feeling a theory is the theory
4:19:35
that These people fetishize the idea of themselves as women.
4:19:41
So their primary attraction is actually to just address it like
4:19:45
they fetishize dressing up as women and and turning into
4:19:48
women's spaces and like they fetishize being seen as a woman.
4:19:52
So that's why they do that. It's not actually that they want
4:19:55
to be a woman. It's that they want to be seen
4:19:58
as a woman. It's not even that a trans issue
4:20:00
at that point. It's like like a Sexual deviant
4:20:05
issue. It's a that's just another form
4:20:07
of better. It's a fetish.
4:20:09
It's a, it's a deviant fetish. And here's the thing.
4:20:12
I don't care if you have a fetish and you want to act on
4:20:14
it, but don't make me participate in that because
4:20:17
that's a violation of my consent.
4:20:18
Yes, I don't want to engage in it.
4:20:21
So if you want to dress up and cross dress and pretend to be a
4:20:24
woman, you go ahead and do that all day, but do in the privacy
4:20:27
of your own bedroom. I don't want to engage in it.
4:20:31
And hey look, I'll tell you and this.
4:20:33
Hold on real quick. I'd like to show you smoke in
4:20:37
Lowe's. Something lowest you walked in
4:20:39
as well. I'll make him go watch out.
4:20:41
I gotta bring it to him. He's in the kitchen.
4:20:43
Oh, you guys, sorry. Now we are you one.
4:20:51
I got three little clips that I want you guys to see and see
4:20:54
what you think. There's a, here's one that you
4:20:57
guys might think is cool. All right.
4:21:36
There's what do you think of that one?
4:21:38
All right. You guys ready for something?
4:21:42
Funny real quick. I got two clips for you.
4:21:44
It's really funny and Aaron. You're going to love this too
4:21:47
expensively. The last one.
4:21:49
Are you guys ready? Yeah, here we go.
4:22:24
Here showed it up. Your voice is small.
4:22:37
Enough is enough. All right, all right.
4:23:23
Okay. What do you guys think of that
4:23:25
one before I say the last one? Oh man, that's so mean.
4:23:28
Oh, I want to know what this person in the chat means.
4:23:31
When they say asking what is a woman is like asking is water
4:23:34
wet. What what is that supposed to
4:23:36
mean? Oh that's rough.
4:23:38
You guys ready for the last one Smokey still watching?
4:23:41
Oh yeah, he's still. You guys are gonna love this.
4:23:45
This is me and the drunken peasants.
4:23:47
Here you go. I used to tell people that I was
4:23:51
right when I was eight years old.
4:23:55
Because it gave me sort of a justification for being fucked
4:23:58
up in so many ways, and of course, I was never raped.
4:24:04
I never had any sort of Little dark things happen.
4:24:07
I was molested as a child. All right, I said it as, for
4:24:14
many other people, And it was only a one-time thing.
4:24:18
And I don't feel as though. It's cyclically damaged, me.
4:24:22
But also I find myself when told to come into a chat room, that
4:24:29
is Ram or hosted by an atheist. They have a tendency to bring
4:24:34
all their Pals and then they will talk over you and yell at
4:24:37
you. I feel like I'm Donald Trump
4:24:39
trying to deal with Congress. They don't do it one at a time
4:24:43
they can't stay or focus on her to continue to ride all over to
4:24:49
place and ordered to have some kind of competition who they
4:24:52
think is a smartest free thinker.
4:24:55
Perfect example, is this? I think it is fair, right?
4:24:59
I think even more than you Ten Years buddy, I'm gonna do it
4:25:02
right. Keen is fucking Starving for
4:25:05
approvals, it's to the point where it's like unhealthy.
4:25:08
Is he pathological too? Oh yeah, I mean, Brett you've
4:25:12
over the years time and time again, been embroiled in
4:25:16
scandals. You've been embroiled in feuds
4:25:18
with people reorganize your priorities.
4:25:20
Because the priorities, you have now are all wrong.
4:25:21
I know a lot about Brett Keane, because I've watched him a lot,
4:25:24
and that makes me a good historian.
4:25:25
Brett has a very typical lying Huck story.
4:25:29
Missouri hustling, rub thing about him that I'm very familiar
4:25:34
with. They got you publicly, they got
4:25:36
to call you a pedophile. They got a sick, a fucking sick
4:25:39
retard on. You, they'll do it.
4:25:41
I'm about to get a touchdown. Do you want to speak out?
4:25:56
All right, thank you for having me on the show.
4:26:09
Oh my God. Dude, that brought me back.
4:26:18
Right money, right there. That was, that was so, I swear
4:26:22
to God, I watched that when it happened, I swear to God, I
4:26:26
watched that when it happened, hashtag we were there.
4:26:28
Hey, can you hear me? Yes.
4:26:32
Yeah yeah, that took me back. That's took me back.
4:26:36
I don't know how old you were when you watched that but I feel
4:26:39
like I was like 14. I was saying I started watching
4:26:43
TJ 16 years ago and I watched drunken peasants when it
4:26:48
started. So right dpu and it started.
4:26:50
So when I was like oh my God it's like 12 years ago.
4:26:54
So I was like 12 I was 20 I was 19 or 20.
4:27:01
What do you think about this in low?
4:27:03
The way I responded to him know, like, okay, we're okay, thanks.
4:27:08
Thanks for having me on the show, know.
4:27:11
I felt that. No, I do that all the time.
4:27:14
You know, I was just gonna pull this.
4:27:16
I was gonna say like, you know, I was younger tonight, 13, 14.
4:27:21
I was in the band, and if I was gonna troll you, I would never
4:27:25
tell you this. So my friends and I were in that
4:27:29
band, we played a bunch of poison Van Halen and you know,
4:27:32
80s glam, metal stuff like that. We used to wear makeup and curl
4:27:36
our hair, you know. And we're Sometimes some like
4:27:40
cut up women's tops or whatever and shit like that, just a
4:27:43
little like Van Halen On Stage or something.
4:27:45
And then like man in the town, I lived in rural town, I lived in,
4:27:49
you know, we got shit for that. We got called the F slur, and
4:27:53
all this other stuff and all that.
4:27:54
But like, and so when people tell me, when gay people were
4:27:58
trans people tell me, you don't know what it's like.
4:28:00
I'm like, I don't know what it's like to be.
4:28:02
Like gay deal with that your whole life, but I got a touch of
4:28:05
that just from just from like dressing Glam.
4:28:08
Trying to, like Van Halen people that grow up listening to him
4:28:12
were calling me the F-word. And I said, yeah, honestly,
4:28:16
yeah. So I'm like, no.
4:28:18
I know what it's like and I was in started to pull this card but
4:28:21
I was an atheist in a small Christian town.
4:28:24
I know what it's like to be discriminated.
4:28:26
You know, feel discriminated against and stuff. and, You
4:28:30
know, and so so yeah, if I was trolling you, I would have never
4:28:33
told you. I used to dress like that.
4:28:34
Um, but no, I got shit for that and so I told trans people and
4:28:39
and gay people look, hey, everybody's getting shit in
4:28:42
their life, whether they're black is because they're black,
4:28:44
or is because they're, they have a mental handicap, like what
4:28:47
happened to Kobe? He got bullied for that or they
4:28:50
want to dress a little Glam like, you know, like the guys
4:28:53
and poison because they play in a band and they, you know,
4:28:55
whether it's that or they're really are gay or You know trans
4:28:59
or whatever? Um yeah everybody knows what
4:29:02
it's like to feel to get fucked on and be made fun of and told
4:29:05
you know, to be discriminated against and I understand that
4:29:08
there are laws now or you know, there there's a There are people
4:29:13
who, you know, some of them feel in danger, depending where they
4:29:17
live or whatever, some trans people felt like that.
4:29:19
Okay? But the same time like, black
4:29:23
people can feel that way too, where they live, you know or
4:29:27
poor people can feel that way where they live It's it's not a
4:29:32
unique thing to trans people to feel oppressed, or to feel like
4:29:37
downtrodden or to feel like people have their or give them
4:29:41
shit, you know, for being who they are.
4:29:44
I got shit for being in the middle head.
4:29:45
You know, I got shit for being an atheist.
4:29:47
I got shit for dressing gland. You know what I mean?
4:29:52
Yeah, no matter what. Somebody's gonna give you a shit
4:29:54
for something. So, these people are coming at
4:29:57
five year, old kids or yelling at people or like Chris Chan,
4:30:02
Mason people and the GameStop or whatever.
4:30:04
Because I, you know, misgendered them or used a wrong pronouns.
4:30:09
Like it's like, dude, I don't know who the fuck you are, you
4:30:11
ain't that you ain't too good for me to call you a motherfuker
4:30:14
man. Have you seen has anyone?
4:30:15
Seen Christians wife like that's fucking weird, like not to sound
4:30:21
like a hypocrite but if anyone has seen Chris Chan's wife, who
4:30:24
who's supposedly got pregnant? Um, that's fucking creepy.
4:30:27
She looks like a little girl. I'm sorry.
4:30:30
Look like a little I do not look like a little girl.
4:30:33
Oh, well, you know, I'm 24. He looks like she's fucking 12.
4:30:40
That's different. He does.
4:30:42
Look 12, she looks fucking. You've seen it, right?
4:30:46
Christians wife, what's her name?
4:30:48
I don't remember her name, but I just call her some weird, stupid
4:30:52
thing. But he looks like a little
4:30:54
little girl and she's like 30. So I don't know.
4:30:57
Something's wrong with her or something but there was that
4:30:59
rumor that he got her pregnant and then it was like, it was a
4:31:02
lie but then maybe it wasn't. I don't know what it's going on
4:31:05
with that. See, like, yeah, I remember
4:31:08
seeing that. I'm like, that's fucking creepy
4:31:10
you like, maybe it's like one of those things where he's kind of
4:31:12
Taken what he can get, but at the same time, I'm like that's
4:31:15
an awfully specific type. He has their well especially for
4:31:19
somebody who, you know, Christian's history.
4:31:22
I'm just saying, I'm just saying, oh my God, you guys will
4:31:26
love this. I interviewed Megan Schroeder.
4:31:28
The girl he had a massive crush on like his whole life.
4:31:30
You're gonna, you're gonna kill me.
4:31:32
Where, where is this? Where do I find this?
4:31:34
Oh, it was like, through Facebook, she lives in Virginia,
4:31:38
and like or West Virginia and and like I went back and forth
4:31:43
with her. She fucking hates his guts.
4:31:45
She I hope she gets a restraining order again stem,
4:31:48
you still genuinely care about the guy.
4:31:51
She was like his only real friend for years and like he and
4:31:55
like he would not stop like harassing her and then he showed
4:32:00
me some shit. Some old messages where he
4:32:03
basically said he wished. He could take her in the woods.
4:32:05
He wanted to go on a walk with her in the woods.
4:32:08
So he and then implied that he was gonna like, Forces, love on
4:32:13
her and stuff, or something like salt or her.
4:32:16
Oh my God. That's why they stopped.
4:32:20
That's where she drew the line and like I saw the cops.
4:32:23
She was cool as shit. Like, by the way, like she's a
4:32:26
big metal hit herself and she herself is actually pretty
4:32:28
Christian. Um, But like, she she was very
4:32:32
cool. She I was like, I'm so sorry to
4:32:35
ask you about this. I'm sure you've heard had so
4:32:37
many assholes. Just like, DM you about this
4:32:40
guy? He's like, no, no, no, it's it's
4:32:42
all good. I'm used to it.
4:32:43
And so, I got to interview, Megan Schroeder.
4:32:45
If I can find my old Facebook messages, maybe I can copy and
4:32:48
paste them somewhere, you know. Will you probably realized this
4:32:53
since you love music so much? But a lot of the greats are
4:32:56
Godly. I was Cooper, actually, I
4:33:02
believe he said, his father was a preacher and he talked about
4:33:05
how Jesus impacted his life all the time.
4:33:08
Dave mustaine's a Christian as well Megadeth.
4:33:11
Yeah. You know, Randy Rhodes.
4:33:13
My favorite guitarists of all time with Quiet Riot and Ozzy
4:33:17
Osborne. He was a Catholic you know?
4:33:19
And I will align it from Thin Lizzy, one of my favorite bands,
4:33:23
the singer and bassist Phil lynott.
4:33:25
He was a Catholic so it's like, you know?
4:33:26
Well we're talking about real Christians.
4:33:30
Okay, I'm just fine. You see?
4:33:34
Well, all the good Christians are only real Christians not
4:33:38
Catholics. Just oh no, they're fine,
4:33:42
they're fine, you eat your cannibal cracker and shut up my
4:33:48
line. I've said cannibal cracker
4:33:50
before, you didn't make up candles Cracker, Barrel yourself
4:33:55
that he telling yourself that no swears on the show now, So I got
4:34:00
some topics for you guys. What do you guys if you don't
4:34:03
mind? Aaron?
4:34:04
What is your thoughts on this? This is based apartments stats.
4:34:15
We can go with one one Topic at the time.
4:34:19
I put it up and let you guys. I don't like, I don't like wait,
4:34:23
five. I was gonna say I think the
4:34:25
first half is pretty accurate. So why do you think that that's
4:34:30
what do you think that? That's an issue for?
4:34:32
Let's go with the first one. I'll even say it.
4:34:35
He had the highest suicide rate in the planet over every group
4:34:39
of community combined. Why do you think that's the
4:34:41
case? Go ahead.
4:34:44
Well, as the resident atheist here, I I have a history with
4:34:49
attempting suicide. And my thought process as an
4:34:53
atheist for wanting to do. That was what was a lot of like,
4:34:59
personal life stuff that just happened to one.
4:35:01
Just all, I'm an atheist. There's nothing to live for it.
4:35:03
It was a point in my life where I felt like, okay, all the good
4:35:09
things are coming to an end of my life.
4:35:11
Is just falling to shit. Everything sucks.
4:35:13
You know, I'm drinking all the time.
4:35:15
Blah blah. Um, my mindset is that like
4:35:18
well, I could became very nihilistic and I and started to
4:35:22
just feel like I just planed, it didn't matter.
4:35:24
And, you know, I just fell like, well shit.
4:35:26
Nothing really matters anyway. So in my life is miserable.
4:35:30
Why do I keep, why do I keep wanting to live it?
4:35:33
Why do I keep trying? You know?
4:35:34
And so that's that does play into it but other reasons can be
4:35:39
like But personally, I know, I'm atheist, but I have this viewer.
4:35:45
Like I do believe you make your own destiny, you create a
4:35:49
meaning in life and you have to live for something.
4:35:52
So that's what I try to live by, but like a lot of atheists, a
4:35:56
lot of atheists tend to go the nihilistic route and Kind of
4:36:01
fall and some of them not all over.
4:36:03
Do you think it leads to nihilism for because they fall
4:36:07
into like a few? Oh what I call a whole of
4:36:11
feudalism or a whole of utility where, they feel like maybe
4:36:17
they've reached a point in their life where Nothing is nothing.
4:36:22
Good's happening. They're getting shit all the
4:36:24
time. They've lost their job.
4:36:26
Wife, divorced me, whatever. And they might just think, well,
4:36:29
they make. They get black people.
4:36:30
So, to speak as the internet would say.
4:36:33
And they start to feel like well, none of this fucking
4:36:36
matters. Life sucks.
4:36:37
I'm on as well. They go down a utility hole and
4:36:40
they just They start thinking like, well, nothing matters in
4:36:45
my life sucks a lot, I keep living it.
4:36:47
And so someone do fall into that hole and you know, and there are
4:36:50
people like famous atheist, actually, like Trent Reznor for
4:36:53
is an example of this. I saw a thing recently where he
4:36:56
was talking about how a little bit after the downward spiral
4:37:00
album in the mister and the self-destruct tour.
4:37:03
He became very suicidal because he felt like he could just he
4:37:08
could not kick heroin, he could not kick heroin.
4:37:10
He wasn't enjoying his music. He said, I wasn't, I was
4:37:14
miserable on stage, I just didn't enjoy life.
4:37:16
There was, there seemed to be no point in living and he fell
4:37:20
into, and I was a hole, a futility whole.
4:37:25
Like a like a fatalist hole so to speak.
4:37:31
He became like a defeatist and That's something I try to avoid
4:37:35
for myself. Like there are atheists who live
4:37:37
very happy Lives who enjoy life and appreciate the world around
4:37:41
them and appreciate the things they have in life.
4:37:43
Like, I don't grateful for this guitar, it's a cheap guitar, but
4:37:46
ungrateful for it, but there are so many things you agree though
4:37:49
as atheist. Because what you're saying is
4:37:51
absolutely. In my mind logical, rational, if
4:37:55
there is no objective God and no objective reality, then you get
4:37:59
pretty much comes down to whatever meaning a purpose.
4:38:02
He give yourself would be subject.
4:38:04
Right, right. So I I I've always said that
4:38:08
atheism leads towards that, I actually went down that same
4:38:10
road you talked about. So I understand that that's one
4:38:14
of the big reasons why I feel the need to and I moved to try
4:38:18
to help non-believers because I believe it can take into a
4:38:22
fucking dark place. And if you don't have any light
4:38:24
at the end of the tunnel, it's crazy.
4:38:29
If you let, I'm glad that I'm glad that you didn't make any
4:38:33
negative choices towards that direction on.
4:38:35
You're still here today, you do mean something.
4:38:38
You do have values. So I'll never convince yourself.
4:38:41
Otherwise, And you too, dude, I'm glad you're here.
4:38:45
I'm glad you're talking. Like I said, I don't agree with
4:38:47
being in Paul saying, they want to celebrate your death and shit
4:38:50
like that. That's just oh, I'm going to the
4:38:53
better bring cake and fucking balloons.
4:38:54
That's all I ask. You know, and play The Final
4:38:57
Countdown while they're lowering me in the hole.
4:39:00
Yes, you know, the copyright strike the video if they do
4:39:03
that. Okay, well, I think that's
4:39:05
copyright. Know, let's be real clear.
4:39:07
In terms of like, accomplishments for my life.
4:39:09
If, every human being that I've regarded as the biggest piece of
4:39:14
shit alive, celebrated my life, my death.
4:39:16
I'd consider then I accomplished my goal.
4:39:19
I did something right. So if I pissed them off, so
4:39:23
fucking much, that's what I get out of it.
4:39:25
You know what I win? Well, I'm just saying I have
4:39:29
loved all around brother. Like I said, I really am trying
4:39:31
to put that effort in to be kinder to people and be more
4:39:34
understanding. And it's like, I love all those
4:39:36
guys and I had and I'm, I'm going to really enjoy my
4:39:40
conversation with you guys. I like you guys a lot.
4:39:41
I like those. Eyes and I just I I wish people
4:39:45
could be cool with each other, you know.
4:39:47
And I I hate that Wizards perpetuating it or not, you
4:39:51
know, I hate that it's happening and I wish think everybody could
4:39:54
just get along and I hope that you realize that the reason why
4:39:58
Ben does is there's not any kind of real hatred between me and
4:40:01
this guy, this is about him wanting to get views.
4:40:04
So he's been fucking pay his bills each month and that's it.
4:40:08
I understand that, but I'm not gonna let him throw around a
4:40:11
bunch of false accusations or bring my kids into the
4:40:14
conversation. Like I said over and over to TJ,
4:40:17
I said, look dude, talk shit about me all day.
4:40:20
Just don't bring in my, my fucking family and all this and
4:40:23
even made jokes about that, I'm pretty sure Ben is already
4:40:27
called me a pussy at this point. It's okay.
4:40:29
Uh, there's nothing wrong with pussy.
4:40:33
Give a fuk what Ben says about me anymore.
4:40:35
He did ask on the last episode when he was reviewing it where
4:40:39
he's like, do you think she used to be a DP fan?
4:40:41
Because she said she used to do this and that it's like, yeah, I
4:40:45
used to be a DP fan, you know, when it was still good when TJ
4:40:47
and Paul were on there, you know, when I was 12 years old,
4:40:50
good job been, you figured it out.
4:40:52
You cracked the code back when it was good and there were
4:40:54
people with Talent on there and go play this on your silly
4:40:57
little show. That's not good anymore.
4:40:59
That'll be fine. I'm cool with that.
4:41:01
I don't know why. That sucks people low.
4:41:03
I mean I myself have even said that back in the day I like the
4:41:08
Amazing Atheist. I was cool with Paul.
4:41:10
Yeah. Like buddy.
4:41:11
A lot of the fucking people are taking a shit on used to
4:41:15
actually care about them and care about their welfare and all
4:41:18
that. They're the fucking
4:41:19
backstabbers. Yeah, that's the thing.
4:41:23
And bread to speak. More on point, one about
4:41:26
atheists and committing suicide. We actually have talked about
4:41:30
this pretty extensively on our Channel where we talk about the
4:41:35
fact that a big problem that we have personally with like
4:41:38
atheist theology, is that it does lead to a little bit of a
4:41:43
darwinist theory because we actually have a friend.
4:41:46
I'm pretty sure you're familiar with wild heart.
4:41:48
Do you know who wildheart is? I do not but I I have fallen
4:41:52
into that mindset myself where well, we have a friend, who like
4:41:56
he, he struggles with a substance use issue.
4:41:58
Um, and he has been in recovery multiple times.
4:42:03
He's asked people in the community for resources.
4:42:05
We've all tried to help him get sober and he kind of like, and
4:42:10
and he's in recovery right now. Again, for the umpteenth time
4:42:15
and essentially in atheist, theology from a darwinist
4:42:19
perspective, he doesn't contribute anything positive to
4:42:23
Anxiety. So from an atheist perspective,
4:42:25
there is no reason for him to exist.
4:42:28
Now, from my mindset as a Christian, he has implicit
4:42:31
value. This guy was made in the image
4:42:33
of God. He has implicit value in that.
4:42:35
He doesn't see it that way. He sees it from an atheistic
4:42:38
perspective, where someone's value is not inherent.
4:42:42
It comes from what they contribute to society.
4:42:44
He himself does not contribute anything.
4:42:47
So by his, you know, I used to love him.
4:42:50
Come into my room all the time low and I got no hatred towards
4:42:53
him. I love him, talk talk, but last
4:42:56
time he was in my room, unfortunately, he decided to get
4:43:00
up. Nobody was giving him any shit
4:43:02
but he said, hey, Brett, can I show you something?
4:43:04
He pulled his dick out on camera.
4:43:06
So that I, I just have the physical time allowing him up in
4:43:10
the room because of that shit. I love him man, but he's got to
4:43:13
sit on the bottom because I can't, I can't have the zoo
4:43:17
animals deck out like you. Yeah, he abuses substances and
4:43:21
he's got some Mental Health. You?
4:43:23
So that's not a very good combination.
4:43:24
It really? I at the end of the day, it's
4:43:26
really not his fault. He does struggle with his mental
4:43:29
health and I do I have infinite sympathy for him and we've all
4:43:33
tried to help him, but that that's where atheism becomes in
4:43:36
my view, very dangerous for people with mental health
4:43:39
issues, is that you don't see any value in your life because
4:43:43
you're not doing anything for society, and that's how you view
4:43:48
yourself as valuable as what you contribute, and when you're
4:43:50
unable to contribute anything, that's when it gets into a very
4:43:53
dangerous, like darwinist kind of a thing.
4:43:58
Well, it's not just that Aaron, as well as low even the atheist
4:44:05
who are what would be considered higher ups or Elite.
4:44:09
So the ones who are wealthy and said, even, they no matter how
4:44:12
much money they have, no matter how many material things that
4:44:16
cliche remark, you can't buy. True love is real.
4:44:20
I agree with that. Aaron could I could I get your
4:44:23
perspective on that? Oh, someone who is still an
4:44:27
atheist. Yeah, I'm so sorry for cutting
4:44:29
all off. You know.
4:44:30
You didn't you didn't I cut you off.
4:44:32
No, you're fine. So my experience with going down
4:44:37
that rabbit hole, because I've been, I have a 100 percent been
4:44:40
there. As well as felt.
4:44:43
Like, I just didn't give a shit about anything, I wasn't happy.
4:44:45
When I was on a record, I was on a label in the black metal band
4:44:49
and we were fucking over. We got open for like big bands
4:44:53
and like I met The Descendants, the punk rock band.
4:44:56
I hung out with REM, I hung out with a B-52's we were out about
4:44:59
Athens Georgia. I got to meet guys and Cradle of
4:45:04
Filth so it's like I was fucking living it up.
4:45:07
I was making pretty decent money doing that.
4:45:10
And I had we had a guitar endorsement with Jackson
4:45:13
Guitars. and, As I fuck, I just didn't.
4:45:19
I felt like, man. I don't even enjoy playing
4:45:21
unless I'm a little higher drunk, I can't go on stage,
4:45:24
unless I'm drunk and I felt miserable.
4:45:26
I was tired because I was all so working and I slept very little
4:45:31
And I started going down this hole and I was thinking about
4:45:35
our music. We had tension of the record
4:45:36
label as well and that was fucking with my Lively Hood.
4:45:40
And I got to a point where I just didn't care anymore and I
4:45:43
was like going on stage playing our songs and but I was crashing
4:45:47
my guitars and I was a thrashing the equipment and I was hurting
4:45:51
myself like on purpose and jumping off a shet and drinking
4:45:54
too much and I was I just fell down this fucking hole that you
4:46:01
were just talking about. And I ended up with me trying to
4:46:04
shoot myself to a Nine Inch Nails.
4:46:05
Album It's corny and cliche, and it's hilarious as that sounds.
4:46:09
But I, then then I just had to have a change of mind, like, I
4:46:15
had to change my mindset and I said, well, I'm With religion
4:46:19
and or God or Christianity, anything any of it.
4:46:23
I just have a hard time. Like I just haven't had this
4:46:26
experience that others have had with it otherwise I could say I
4:46:30
would say otherwise. So like though our main and
4:46:33
atheist I I thought, well, you know, I gotta I got a really
4:46:39
like, even if I'm not I don't feel like I'm contributing to
4:46:43
society or creating something, or if I'm I don't like the
4:46:47
thing. I'm creating like some of the
4:46:48
music, I'm becoming miserable. I just feel indifferent tourism
4:46:52
music. I don't even hate it.
4:46:53
I just felt drained chemically, just and I was drinking all the
4:46:57
time. I was like, well.
4:47:00
Instead of shooting myself. I can live for my, I have my
4:47:04
little kitty cats and I have my mom, my elderly mom.
4:47:07
He wants to hear from me once in a while and I, you know, and
4:47:11
there's a lot of A lot of comedy specials.
4:47:15
I gotta watch. There's a lot of Zelda games.
4:47:16
I got to play the, you know, there's a lot of Iron Maiden
4:47:19
albums. I got to listen to, you know,
4:47:20
that there's a lot of mountains, I used to like, climbing
4:47:23
mountains and where I lived up in Tennessee.
4:47:25
I'd walk high. I can climb mountains and stuff.
4:47:27
I said, there's a lot of need to do.
4:47:29
I said, if I shoot myself, I can't turn that around.
4:47:32
I can't undo that like I did. There's so I had to change my
4:47:38
mindset. Anyone finding religion or
4:47:40
finding God? It was just changing my mindset
4:47:42
like that, few, that fuel defeatist.
4:47:46
Suicidal mindset like as an atheist.
4:47:50
That really I mean going joking. Like I know you're a Christian
4:47:53
you're coming from a Christian angle but you really aren't
4:47:55
joking. It gets dark and so, In the in
4:48:01
the atheist Community. I feel like there's a lot of
4:48:04
that because the nowadays with like the economy being what it
4:48:08
is, and Life is pretty hard right now for a lot of people.
4:48:11
I think a lot of people are losing hope and I feel like
4:48:14
people who might not have Say a spiritual.
4:48:20
Something spiritual they can lean on or may not have a
4:48:26
Religion or some kind of, like idea of a higher power to push
4:48:31
them forward, they might lose hope.
4:48:33
And they might feel like, wow, this is really all for nothing,
4:48:36
isn't it? And they, they commit suicide.
4:48:39
And it's like, it's it's a real fucking tragedy.
4:48:41
I look at somebody like Kurt Cobain, he was not an atheist by
4:48:44
the way. He was a he was a He was some
4:48:47
kind of a Hindu, of course, end of his life but I think about
4:48:52
what the fuck did you do that, dude.
4:48:54
And it's not the good, it's not the guitars, it's not the money,
4:48:57
it's not the house and or whatever.
4:48:59
I'm like you had a wife and a daughter that loved you.
4:49:02
Why? That fuck would you shoot
4:49:03
yourself? And so, I'll look at like that.
4:49:06
Now when I was younger I used to think it was badass that like I
4:49:10
was a fucked up, teenager and I was to think it was badass that
4:49:14
some of the black middle guys and death metal, guys, I like
4:49:16
were, you know, had committed suicide or or You know.
4:49:22
Hurt themselves on stage cutting their wrists on stage and stuff
4:49:25
like that. I've seen people do that and I'm
4:49:28
like, I look back and I'm like, that's just tragic, that's sad.
4:49:33
Like he why the fuck would you want to do that?
4:49:37
To people that love you or do your pet or even your little
4:49:40
pets, why would you want to like Sam Hyde?
4:49:43
I love Sam Hyde and he has some of the best advice for people
4:49:46
I've ever. I'm just tearing up talking
4:49:49
about this, I'm sorry. Um, same hide talks about.
4:49:52
He is a Christian by the way and I admire the shit out of him.
4:49:56
The same high talks about. Like even if you're not a
4:49:59
religious person he said you got to find you have to find
4:50:01
something worth living for you have to find an activity, you
4:50:05
have to lift weights, you have to take care of your folks, you
4:50:09
have to take care of your pets. You if you take your life, You
4:50:13
lose all of that, you'll never get that back.
4:50:16
You'll never get to pet your kitty cat.
4:50:17
Again you'll never you'll never get to tell your mother, you
4:50:21
love her. You love her again. and so,
4:50:25
Yeah, I had to The Atheist Community.
4:50:28
There's a fucking problem. I really think so.
4:50:31
But I think Um, I know you guys don't like him and shit, but
4:50:35
like a teaching is one of those people that really like, I
4:50:38
talked to a lot whenever and on Twitter and the DMS and shit,
4:50:41
I'd be like, hey man, I'm fucking feeling it, dude.
4:50:45
And it'd be people like him, he's an atheist or Sam Hyde a
4:50:49
Christian or Varga from. He was a pagan and all of them
4:50:53
said the same thing. You gotta find something to live
4:50:55
for. You gotta fucking Go out there
4:50:58
and hike a mountain. You know, hot like climb a
4:51:01
mountain hike, a trail, you know, go see a comedy show.
4:51:05
Go, go fucking, write some music, you know, even if you're
4:51:08
not feeling it, like just do something, do something.
4:51:11
And then we, when you're done with it, you're gonna look back
4:51:14
and be like shit. I did those things.
4:51:15
That's pretty fucking cool. I do that, you know, I don't
4:51:19
want to rain on that beautiful prose, you just presented and I
4:51:25
can be, I know, I talk. So fucking no, no, no, no, no,
4:51:28
no, no, no, you're fine. It was, it was beautiful.
4:51:31
It was, it was positive sentiment.
4:51:33
Certainly, I, I had been in an atheistic mindset for a season
4:51:39
of time myself, despite having been raised, and, you know,
4:51:43
non-fundamental non-denominational Christianity,
4:51:46
well, maybe a bit of fundamentalism, but anyway,
4:51:50
that's that's aside the point, you know, the atheist I find and
4:51:57
Brett was pulling up those statistics where, you know,
4:52:00
atheists as a as a belief group attend to suffer from A higher
4:52:07
levels of drug addiction suicide depressive, you know,
4:52:12
self-destructive conducted actions.
4:52:14
And and I don't think that that's something that's just
4:52:17
emerging. You know, in a vacuum or is
4:52:20
something that's merely correlative, you know.
4:52:23
And my thought is this, I think I think someone at a very, very
4:52:28
surface level. That can.
4:52:31
Appreciate the beauty is of the world and not think too deeply
4:52:35
about anything. can survive probably functionally just fine
4:52:40
generally as an atheist but once someone starts really thinking
4:52:45
and really delving deep and considering things like ontology
4:52:49
and teleology and nihilism and purposelessness and All of these
4:52:54
other kind of kind of deeper philosophical Concepts.
4:52:57
I think the deeper you go, the more depressed.
4:52:59
You will be with the worldview that you have adopted.
4:53:02
Oh yeah, yeah because when you take it to its fundamental
4:53:06
level, you're nothing. Other than a universal accident,
4:53:11
your just matter in motion all your emotions, all of your
4:53:17
desires, all of your experiences, all of these
4:53:22
non-material things that you value are irrelevant to the
4:53:26
material universe and will disappear as fast as their
4:53:30
experience. And To take the atheistic or try
4:53:34
to justify an atheistic approach.
4:53:36
As a as to justify your life as nothing, other than a collection
4:53:40
of experiences. And that's fine.
4:53:43
If that's really how you want to gauge Your Existence, but you'll
4:53:46
never Escape that core meta at the foundation that it's all
4:53:49
just ultimately meaningless. Whether you, You know, the
4:53:53
universe will go on for a billion more years and
4:53:55
certainly, you know, maybe Humanity won't even survive that
4:53:58
you were just a random collection of matter and motion.
4:54:01
No, no intention, no purpose, nothing is really right or
4:54:04
wrong. You know, it's simply just a
4:54:06
product of naturalistic processes and you know, there's
4:54:09
really no point to whether you do something good or bad will be
4:54:11
forgotten as long as you're dead, you know, as soon as
4:54:13
you're dead and you just disappear into nothingness.
4:54:15
And so you know what the fuck? Why not?
4:54:17
I mean why not just live for self as much as you possibly can
4:54:22
and then when you live for self as much as you possibly can and
4:54:26
you finally go that direction and figuring that you're going
4:54:28
to fill this void in your life with this self-associate, say,
4:54:32
satiation and collection of experiences emotional, or sexual
4:54:36
or or whatever. They may be, you find at the end
4:54:40
of the day, those experiences fade as fast as you have them
4:54:44
and you're still left with this empty void and hold that just
4:54:46
cannot be filled And that becomes depressing, and that
4:54:50
becomes self collapsing. And that leads you down
4:54:52
dangerous, dangerous self-destructive, path.
4:54:55
So I find atheism personally to be one of the most potentially
4:55:00
toxic and self-destructive ideologies.
4:55:03
One can adopt and B. and I were talking about communism earlier
4:55:10
and I mentioned, you know, in some of those in some of those
4:55:14
old communist countries, it seemed like a lot of the
4:55:18
leaders, they would in State, this Force this state, they
4:55:22
would enforce the state atheism, And in some countries it's just
4:55:27
like enough official thing where we're officially as an atheist
4:55:30
country where but you can practice whatever like Vietnam
4:55:33
you can do that. Then then like you have people
4:55:36
like in Vero from Albania or Nikola Chuchu, who was ruler of
4:55:40
Romania when they were both communist countries and they
4:55:44
were looking at their policies. They just think of the shit
4:55:46
about anybody. They didn't care about the
4:55:48
well-being of their, the welfare of their people.
4:55:50
They didn't care about the state of their infrastructure.
4:55:52
It just it really did seem like it was just you have you heard
4:55:56
of what do you know, what a super auditory Act is?
4:55:59
No super arbitrary Act is, it's an idea and it's a philosophical
4:56:05
term but basically the idea is It's an act of personal
4:56:10
self-sacrifice for the benefit of another human being.
4:56:14
So like throwing yourself in front of a bus for another
4:56:17
person and risking yourself getting hit.
4:56:20
And the thing about, you know, Christianity as a metric or in
4:56:25
terms of it being basically a virtue, Vice ethic for ways of
4:56:30
living conducting treatment of human beings, it tends to
4:56:33
prioritize the manifestation of Supergator acts, it's kind of
4:56:38
its whole core centralization. Now, whether you're atheist or
4:56:42
Muslim or Christian or what, or Buddhist or Hindu, you basically
4:56:47
universally, unless there's something really fucking wrong
4:56:50
with you, but universally you recognize that this is an
4:56:53
expression of love. To sacrifice of your self for
4:56:57
the benefit of another is reflective of what we tend to
4:57:01
classify as the greatest and grandest expression of love,
4:57:04
that one can show and this is all throughout.
4:57:08
Christianity, in fact it's it's about the only religion that
4:57:12
focuses so heavily and predominantly on the idea of,
4:57:15
you know, do unto others as you want done to yourself.
4:57:18
You know, forgive your enemies. Just as you have been forgiven
4:57:21
by your father, it's this, it's this chain of handing, down of
4:57:25
forgiveness. Grace mercy, Justice, you know,
4:57:28
Faith. All of these things that
4:57:30
ultimately inspire people to want to live better lives, the
4:57:34
other paradigms in atheism, doesn't offer that.
4:57:37
The only thing it offers is a hyper fixation on self and even
4:57:42
when altruistic or beneficial things come up, it's usually
4:57:47
still just a byproduct of a tempting to please self.
4:57:50
And I, I get to talk all the time.
4:57:52
Well, what about the atheist that go to soup kitchens?
4:57:54
Or, you know, do fundraisers and stuff.
4:57:56
Well, let me tell you something, the motivation of things does
4:58:00
matter. You know, like it mean it
4:58:03
sometimes it doesn't matter as much to the utility in some
4:58:05
regards but the motivation of things doesn't matter like
4:58:08
friends. And so I'll use the atheistic
4:58:09
experience. As an example, they love to
4:58:14
advertise. Like as much as they can, you
4:58:18
know, they're benevolence, not like a fundraiser.
4:58:21
Hey, give us money for this cause but like, hey, we as an
4:58:25
association have a food bank and a food.
4:58:26
Pantry. Look, we're just as good as the
4:58:28
Christians. We're just as good as the
4:58:30
churches. Like, they're all true as an
4:58:33
atheist. I hate that shit too.
4:58:35
Yeah, so like they're altruism is really just a gimmick.
4:58:38
Yeah. Not all.
4:58:41
No, no I'm not saying this is universal but I'm saying the
4:58:44
motivation and the Heart of people does matter.
4:58:47
So yeah. There are a lot of people like
4:58:50
that. No.
4:58:50
Yeah. Like early, I mean she's my
4:58:52
friend riding and I both atheists, we've volunteered at
4:58:54
frequently volunteered at Niagara gospel, Rescue Mission
4:58:57
up in Niagara Falls, New York and we did it because like, man,
4:59:02
we knew some of the people that were staying there and they were
4:59:04
good people and we're like, we knew some of the staff and they
4:59:07
were atheists. They didn't give a shit and we
4:59:09
just wanted to help people and it's like, but there are people,
4:59:12
but we didn't do it at our backs or anything shit.
4:59:14
We were tired from work, you know, and, but because just went
4:59:18
off the smoked weed somewhere, but there are people who do, I
4:59:21
don't, I don't like it when people, Do that.
4:59:24
We're like, yeah, look how good we are.
4:59:27
So good. Repent Pat ourselves on the
4:59:29
back. We're doing this thing.
4:59:30
We're better than you are. It's like It's, I don't like
4:59:33
that. I don't like that at all.
4:59:34
It's it's well. And at the end of the day, what
4:59:37
I would argue is that there's no way from an atheist program and
4:59:41
I don't doubt your sincerity. That's not my point.
4:59:43
My point is that, from The Atheist Paradigm, you will never
4:59:48
be able to tell, which is, which is someone doing this, for some
4:59:52
form of self-gratification or someone doing this for genuine,
4:59:55
but Netherland altruism because there's nothing in the atheist
4:59:59
Paradigm, to justify that conduct.
5:00:02
Or to encourage it or to say that it's required or morally,
5:00:06
virtuous. In fact, it's I approach it from
5:00:09
the I approached it from like just like genuinely wanting to
5:00:12
help people. I think deserve the help and
5:00:14
just like, I used to, I did this thing where, but why do you want
5:00:19
that? Like what, like, in fact, one
5:00:21
could one could be the question. Why do you even care?
5:00:24
I mean, they're just, I mean, they're just fellow primates,
5:00:27
you know that are found themselves and a different
5:00:30
situation and you, why do you want to compromise your life for
5:00:33
them? Like what's what is the thing in
5:00:35
atheism? That tells you you should do
5:00:37
that for me. I've been for his dirt before,
5:00:40
you know. I know what it's like and it's
5:00:42
like I I see someone down on their look I don't want to pat
5:00:45
on the back. I don't even want to tell
5:00:46
anybody. I'm just like hey man, you need
5:00:48
20 bucks. You, you know, you need
5:00:51
something to eat. I'll do that for you.
5:00:52
I don't it's not about like I don't care if anybody sees it or
5:00:56
not. You know, I'm sure if anybody
5:00:57
tells anybody, it's to me, I've been poor as shit before.
5:01:00
I've been starving before, I know what it's like, dude.
5:01:02
And you except from your Paradigm that that's not a good.
5:01:07
That's not a good or a bad thing at all.
5:01:09
It's just neutral, right? Because because the empathy that
5:01:12
you have is nothing other than a byproduct of naturalistic
5:01:15
processes and evolution that managed to rise to the top
5:01:18
through natural selection. And therefore, empathy is just a
5:01:21
mechanism for survival. It's not actually anything good.
5:01:23
I mean, you're okay with that, right?
5:01:25
Ultimately. but I mean, as we treat people, I mean, I think
5:01:29
rape and murderers bad because it's just like to me Why would
5:01:36
that be bad? If that's a way to propagate the
5:01:38
species like if you know what I mean?
5:01:40
I don't believe in invading somebody's personal space to
5:01:44
harm violate or kill them because you're not sure opinion
5:01:47
but that's just your opinion and that's not following a line with
5:01:50
naturalism. So naturalism, you want to
5:01:52
increase the amount of copulation as much as possible
5:01:55
for the survival to species? So you know, that's that's
5:01:58
generally how that and the naturalistic Paradigm you're
5:02:00
actually violating what would be the natural Paradigm of
5:02:04
evolution? What it would teach your brain
5:02:06
to be. I agree.
5:02:08
I also view it from a cultural standpoint.
5:02:09
Like for example I come from a German and Dutch and Scottish
5:02:13
family and like, you know, I take like a German.
5:02:17
Growing up with the European in the European household.
5:02:20
It's just like over 1,000 of years.
5:02:21
Some Society, some cultures developed.
5:02:26
But you wouldn't say, you wouldn't say killing Jews was at
5:02:29
one point good because it was okay in society.
5:02:32
But that's something we've got up to accept over 1000s of years
5:02:36
where it's like versus like being virtuous or being
5:02:41
charitable or show. But even the definition of
5:02:44
virtue changes from culture to culture.
5:02:46
I mean in 1942 was virtuous to turn her over to go to a
5:02:50
concentration camp. know, I'm looking at it, like, like, for
5:02:55
example, like the idea of like, When we started your morals,
5:03:00
come from, just tell me where your morals.
5:03:02
Come from, where do you get them?
5:03:03
Come from, come from, like, so, like 1,000 of years ago, when he
5:03:10
started build societies up and create these laws, and that
5:03:14
works, you know, organized Society together and like,
5:03:18
Except like okay yeah, let's not bother anybody, it's not
5:03:22
bothering each other. Like that's not kill, each other
5:03:24
and rape each other and stuff like that, and we can have our
5:03:26
houses here and we got somebody who protect us in case somebody
5:03:29
does want to hurt us. It's like, so I'll look at it
5:03:33
from, like over thousands of years, we developed these, this
5:03:36
sort of mindset of, like, just generally wanting to, keep our
5:03:40
society running in a, in a clean manner, you know, like It's a
5:03:47
social thing. Like, for me, it's like, you
5:03:49
know, It. We develop these societies to.
5:03:53
Why? Why?
5:03:53
I mean when we when we get down to it and I think we're smoking,
5:03:57
he's wanting to go with this is you and I and smoke, you're
5:04:01
nothing but fucking chemistry, we're animated hamburgers.
5:04:04
If there is no God, we're just we're just Mindless fucking
5:04:08
determined chemicals that are just products of our
5:04:11
environment. What does it matter?
5:04:13
If I kick over a bottle of Windex to take out over here,
5:04:17
who gives a fuck Because over thousands of years, we developed
5:04:22
our Societies in an organized fashion to where that would be
5:04:25
looked down upon, but I was a gentlemen, I'm so sorry.
5:04:29
I'm so sorry to interrupt, I do have to bow out.
5:04:32
My wife is requesting me in another room.
5:04:34
I have several other streams stops to do this evening, so I
5:04:37
got to run. But this was an interesting
5:04:38
conversation, I would like to pick it up.
5:04:40
Further, what was your name again, sir?
5:04:42
I'm sorry. Aaron mcbryar man.
5:04:44
Hey and mcbryer got it, Aaron? Okay, Aaron it was a pleasure to
5:04:50
meet you. It was really nice talking with
5:04:53
you tonight. I do have a channel Smokey Saint
5:04:55
polemics. You were gonna stop it.
5:04:57
I do live shows like this, everyone's always welcome.
5:04:59
So you want to stop in, you know, you're always more than
5:05:01
welcome, it was really nice chatting with you.
5:05:03
As a great conversation I really enjoyed it tonight and it was
5:05:06
really nice meeting you. So yeah thanks for being here.
5:05:08
Oh absolutely man. Same here, give it to him, so
5:05:15
good. Thank you Brad.
5:05:16
I think thanks for having me tonight.
5:05:18
You guys take care. Have a good.
5:05:20
Night. God bless and God bless brother.
5:05:22
Oh, see you later bro. See goodbye.
5:05:25
Hello as well Bi-Lo Have a nice night.
5:05:29
All right, let me put this up here.
5:05:31
I I was a, I was obviously an atheist for a while there.
5:05:36
And I went down the, the rabbit hole, like you talking about.
5:05:40
I went into nihilism, I didn't see.
5:05:42
I wanted to believe that people were important.
5:05:45
I wanted to believe that they're even if it's subjective, I
5:05:48
should still care, but I ended up coming back to why, why
5:05:52
should I fucking bother and especially if people annoyed me?
5:05:56
Why should I give a fuk about them?
5:05:57
When I realized that inside my heart, there was this form of
5:06:02
altruism, I wanted to give, I wanted to help people.
5:06:05
I would have atheist women who would contact me and say, hey my
5:06:09
husband died and I got a kid here and I need I need some
5:06:13
fucking diapers and baby mix and I send the money and I'm asking
5:06:17
myself. Why am I doing that?
5:06:19
For why? What is fucking leading me to do
5:06:22
that? Why don't I just tell this
5:06:23
person to find another man or do something like that?
5:06:26
I I started realizing that God was actually working through me.
5:06:31
There was something Beyond me that was actually leading me in
5:06:35
that direction. And when I listened to you about
5:06:38
the wanting to go out and feed people and help people and this
5:06:41
obviously you've got some ideas about socialism.
5:06:44
I can tell that there's something Beyond you that's
5:06:47
doing this, you can't really, I don't think that you believe,
5:06:51
deep down inside that because some assholes of 1000 years ago,
5:06:54
said something or scratched some shit in the dark.
5:06:56
That's why you are the type of person you are today I think
5:07:00
that God's leading you in some way.
5:07:02
You just not realizing it at this moment, you will
5:07:05
acknowledge it. Oh, I guess I was trying to
5:07:09
explain like basically the reason I guess we don't just go
5:07:14
around raping and killing each other is because like as humans
5:07:17
as we developed the idea of civilization and these Villages
5:07:22
and eventually cities and city states We wanted to be organized
5:07:27
and we will run and we couldn't have that everyone's killing
5:07:31
each other and raping each other.
5:07:32
You know what I mean? We do, we do have this on a
5:07:35
daily basis. Unfortunately, when you say
5:07:38
that, when you say your morality is based upon culture, we have
5:07:41
to be honest with each other, you're talking about the culture
5:07:45
of in your neighborhood and then your area just a couple weeks
5:07:49
ago, over 50,000 Christians were beheaded and murdered by
5:07:54
extremist Muslims atheists, in Bangladesh, were murdered just
5:07:59
because they blogged disagreements with Islam.
5:08:01
So obviously, there's people out there who think it's absolutely
5:08:05
fine for them to fucking murder kill and rape at random.
5:08:09
You mean, so where are you? Specifically getting your
5:08:13
morality from from European culture?
5:08:15
I was falling. I was referring to like ancient
5:08:18
European culture, but you know they every culture has had a
5:08:22
history of barbarism, all right? I think even today, actually, I
5:08:29
make the argument like today in the modern world and while I'm
5:08:31
appreciative of the, you know certain modern conveniences like
5:08:34
this fall I'm using right here. We live in a fucked up Society
5:08:37
man. Like we live in a cold heartless
5:08:39
society and The modern world to me it's like there's cool things
5:08:45
about it sure but it's like what fucking cost.
5:08:48
I'm seeing like the way people treat each other and talk to
5:08:52
each other and it's like I've moved, I've lived around America
5:08:54
and it's like And people it doesn't even feel like America
5:08:58
anymore. It just feels like people are
5:09:00
fucking hate each other and I don't like that.
5:09:01
You know, you've experienced all this negativity yet.
5:09:05
There's something still inside of you that like it's worth
5:09:09
giving a fuk for I you should try you should do all the
5:09:13
personal impact. Well, you why you can't tell me?
5:09:18
Because of some people 1000 years ago you and I don't know,
5:09:21
motherfuker thousand years, I would Jesus is one of the
5:09:25
people. I mean, I know I'm an atheist.
5:09:26
I like when she's had to say, you know, he's one of the white
5:09:29
like with Jesus said, Because it's like to me, it's common
5:09:34
sense. You should help people.
5:09:35
You should lift people up. You should treat people as you
5:09:37
want to be treated. Like if I would, if I'm treating
5:09:40
somebody like shit, like, like bread, if I came on here and I
5:09:43
told you and I was an asshole to you, like, maybe he thought I
5:09:46
was going to. I would expect no less that you
5:09:48
would tear me apart. Know, I've actually had
5:09:52
non-believers in the past who done the exact same thing.
5:09:56
I got a friend named will Kincaid, who come from the DP
5:10:01
corner. He was a big-time fan.
5:10:03
Love TJ Kirk, even named himself after TJ's last name.
5:10:08
Yeah, met me a little, a little funky and shit in the beginning.
5:10:12
But as he got to know me and I got to know him, I loved him
5:10:16
like a brother and he still hanging with us and smokies room
5:10:19
and stuff after many, many years and all that he's still with us.
5:10:24
I mean, I told you man. I worked for a church.
5:10:26
I played guitar for him. I was stood there and listened
5:10:29
to the services and they knew I was standing there.
5:10:30
I didn't believe in any of that, but I don't know.
5:10:34
I'm going to be like, yeah, this is a lot of shit.
5:10:37
It's like, no, it's like even even philosophically.
5:10:39
If you're an atheist you can't tell me you read.
5:10:42
Uh, you read Jesus's words in the Bible and be like oh that's
5:10:47
nonsense. It's like, is it nonsense?
5:10:49
The treat people how you want to be treated or to want to help
5:10:53
the sick and and unfortunate. You know, it's the less
5:10:58
fortunate people like of course, like and so it's like that and
5:11:02
all. So like like, you know, I said
5:11:07
raised German, that doesn't necessarily mean Nazi, you know,
5:11:11
like my family were driven from the from Germany and hot and the
5:11:14
Netherlands by the Nazis because they, they didn't want to be
5:11:17
Nazis. So they hit, you know, and so to
5:11:21
them German Behavior, German culture.
5:11:25
Is not not so many regards. That's not citizen.
5:11:29
That's not German. That's not German at all.
5:11:31
That's not see, not he's not German German Coulter to me
5:11:36
German etiquette and behavior to me and Dutch and Dutch and
5:11:40
Scottish is the same way. It's like European etiquette is
5:11:44
a treat people. How you want to be treated
5:11:46
regardless of who they are and like pee understanding be
5:11:50
intelligent about it goes go at things with like an open mind.
5:11:55
Like that's that's kind of where I got that from.
5:11:57
It's like, just the way I was raised and, you know, my dad was
5:12:01
an atheist and my mom, my mom's a Christian. and so, And my
5:12:07
grandpa who was my dad, my atheist dad's Granddad.
5:12:12
Father. He was a preacher and we loved
5:12:14
him. He thought he was fantastic.
5:12:17
And so it's a little bit. I mean, you could say yeah,
5:12:19
there's some Christianity in there. but there's a little bit
5:12:22
of like Old Norse philosophy and Celtic philosophy and there's a
5:12:28
you know, just growing up around some of the people I grew up
5:12:32
around, like, how they, how, you know, some of the older southern
5:12:36
people, acted and treated people and how you ought to how you
5:12:42
ought to act and treat people and you know behave around a
5:12:46
certain company like you don't cuss around women and children
5:12:49
and you treat, you know, treat people treat elderly people with
5:12:53
respect and to me? Yeah, hypothetical question.
5:12:57
And this will be able to this question.
5:13:01
Although it's very simple, it answers a lot of things for me.
5:13:05
I'm able to figure out things real quick.
5:13:07
Let's say tonight, you go to bed, you wake up tomorrow and
5:13:12
you find yourself from an extremely dark room, very little
5:13:15
light. And when you get up and your
5:13:19
eyes adjust, you notice that there's two wall.
5:13:21
Two doors up against the one wall.
5:13:23
All right. Imagine you're in a very small
5:13:26
room. Two doors.
5:13:27
Now, one door says, if you go through this door, your reality
5:13:32
becomes a universe without God. And the other door says if you
5:13:37
go through this universe so this for a fact that this universe
5:13:41
will be run by Jesus Christ. Now, you have a choice.
5:13:45
If you go through either door or the door will disintegrate
5:13:48
behind you and that will be the universe.
5:13:50
That you will spend the rest of reality in, which one would you
5:13:54
choose, and why? Well, there's a real Jesus and
5:13:57
he's he is who he said he was. Why wouldn't I follow him?
5:14:03
So, you would accept that even though you have the option of
5:14:06
being in a universe without god. Well, if I know Jesus behind
5:14:10
that door, why not? You're, you're definitely being
5:14:14
loved by something that. Because I mean like, I know like
5:14:21
I said, the reason I'm an atheist is not because I hate
5:14:23
Jesus and hate God and all this. I mean I had some bitter
5:14:26
feelings when I was younger but like, I don't Even the reason
5:14:30
I'll be gaming atheist when I was 12, wasn't actually, for any
5:14:33
emotional reason is just my own conclusion.
5:14:35
I just told Mom and I was like, I don't think I believe in God
5:14:38
or you know, just I don't feel it.
5:14:41
I don't, you know, experienced anything and that's just a meat,
5:14:45
you know, I don't hate Jesus. I don't hate God.
5:14:47
I don't, you know, it's it's, it's it's the same thing with
5:14:50
all the Pagan stuff or whatever. It's like, I don't believe in
5:14:54
any of that stuff either but I think it's pretty cool.
5:14:56
Yeah, I think she's pretty cool. I mean let me ask you one more
5:15:02
hypothetical because I want to see where you go with this.
5:15:05
I mean so far you've done awesome but here it is, here's
5:15:09
hypothetical, you're walking down the street and with a
5:15:13
couple friends. Unfortunately somebody comes
5:15:16
around an Alleyway really fast with their car and they're
5:15:20
trying to shoot somebody that is near you.
5:15:22
Not one of your friends are you but an intentionally the kill
5:15:26
almost killed, one of your friends, your friend hits the
5:15:29
ground, they're bleeding to death and they say to you, can
5:15:33
you pray to me? Pray for me.
5:15:35
Pray to Jesus Christ for me. What would you do knowing that
5:15:39
you're an atheist? I do it because that's what he
5:15:42
asked me to do. You would do it even though
5:15:46
that's not what you believe to be true.
5:15:48
I did, I have a friend named Robbie who is a preacher up in
5:15:52
Tennessee and we have dinner, I have dinner with him sometimes
5:15:54
and he likes to pray before we eat.
5:15:56
Not and I'm not rude. So I do it with them.
5:16:00
All right, one last question for you.
5:16:04
So you, you basically, you had said earlier that, you like to
5:16:07
climb mountains back in the day in Tennessee, right.
5:16:09
Yeah. We're having some feedback.
5:16:12
Oof, you know how to mute the mic.
5:16:15
So it doesn't like cause neck go.
5:16:17
Um, Why I could meet it for you just for a moment.
5:16:21
No need to immediately after I I give you my hypothetical.
5:16:25
So you're you climb up a big old Hill in Tennessee here, right?
5:16:30
You and you find yourself towards like a cliff where
5:16:33
you're able to see the beautiful Horizon and the and the Sun and
5:16:37
all that as it's rising. It's just the most beautiful
5:16:39
scenery you ever seen. Well, suddenly started hearing
5:16:43
some weird noises behind you and it as it's starts to clear.
5:16:48
You notice that it's a big woman.
5:16:50
She appears to be pregnant. She's heading towards the cliff
5:16:54
and she says It's my life. It's my body.
5:16:58
I can do with it, whatever I want.
5:17:01
And she starts heading towards the cliff.
5:17:03
What would you do? Let me unmute you.
5:17:08
I was stopper. I would grab her and stop her.
5:17:10
I say you have that baby to live for.
5:17:12
If you take your life, you're taking that baby's life too.
5:17:15
And you're gonna You know. You know.
5:17:19
Lose two lives, not just yours. And even if even if she wasn't
5:17:23
pregnant, I'd be like you don't need to do that.
5:17:25
You got shit to live for. There's something or out there
5:17:28
and but he's telling you up and down, it's her body, it's her
5:17:32
life, her choice. Well I'm gonna do my God damned
5:17:36
oh excuse me. I'm gonna do my damnedest to
5:17:38
keep her from jumping because I don't tell her he never nothing.
5:17:41
In this world is worth killing yourself over or killing your
5:17:44
baby over. You know, that was beautiful.
5:17:49
That is beautiful. So I think you don't agree with
5:17:52
the horse. Circumstantial like rape and
5:17:58
shit like that. Do you believe that the babies
5:18:02
guilty and deserves it? No.
5:18:07
All right, let's say my goodness, man.
5:18:09
A lot of the views that you have are very, very theistic.
5:18:13
You're in the fairness, you're in the Justice, you're into the
5:18:16
value of intrinsic existence in life, you feel like life is
5:18:21
worth existing that. There's a point to it and a
5:18:24
purpose, dude. You're very, very theistic,
5:18:26
whether you want to believe that or not.
5:18:29
I guess I just don't believe in like, I like, I guess I just
5:18:32
view all of it in a philosophical sense because like
5:18:35
though, I've never had any kind of experience with like A God or
5:18:40
any, or multiple gods, or what a goddesses or what have you any
5:18:44
kind of entity or super? Now, I've never had a
5:18:47
supernatural experience of my entire life and so that's kind
5:18:50
of why I'm the way I am. But like I said, it's not like
5:18:53
I'm just wholesale against it. I'm just a philosophically.
5:18:56
I mean, I'm perfectly fine with Jesus and what in his words you
5:19:00
know I'm perfectly fine with. There's some things over with
5:19:03
the the church itself. I had gripes with but that's
5:19:06
more organized religion than than the religion itself.
5:19:10
So to speak. Well me and Smoky are really too
5:19:13
happy with organized religion either.
5:19:15
That's why I always say. I'm just trying to open people's
5:19:18
mind to God. I'm not trying to.
5:19:20
If you do accept God one day or accept, Jesus Christ, I'm not
5:19:24
going to like hand you out of pamphlet and say, well, go to
5:19:27
this church them, not going to happen.
5:19:29
In fact I'd rather you stay the hell away from religion.
5:19:32
This hole in your heart to concept of God. you know, like
5:19:37
if it's one of those things where like, you know, I I've
5:19:44
Seen a lot of corruption and religion and I've experienced it
5:19:48
myself like a people. They run churches, who are
5:19:51
stealing money from people and or taking advantage of people,
5:19:55
mentally ill people specially women sometimes Whether in
5:20:02
whether it's Christianity or Judaism Islam.
5:20:06
Satanism in some cases or whatever.
5:20:13
You know, it's it's like I have a problem.
5:20:16
I what I have a problem with ultimately is hypocrisy and I
5:20:19
have a problem with people taking advantage of people.
5:20:23
And yeah, yeah. And I am the same way.
5:20:26
It's I don't I don't really care for these people who scam the
5:20:31
shit out of people and religion and all that and I don't like it
5:20:34
whenever it goes, it's down the other Spectrum either whether
5:20:37
it's atheist or religious, I agree with you.
5:20:41
And in another thing also, it's like I do find shit like it's
5:20:45
like I said, I don't give a fuk about Satanism or anything like
5:20:48
that, but that's like I can listen to DSi and Morbid Angel.
5:20:51
I can listen to me him and Emperor like all this crazy
5:20:54
shit. And to me it's like the image
5:20:57
tree and the lyrics and The all the satanic stuff to me.
5:21:03
It's like borderline fantasy. Like it's like fun.
5:21:06
It's like like I play video games so that kind of shit like.
5:21:11
So it's another thing is like I'm listening to genuinely
5:21:14
satanic music sometimes depending on the band but like I
5:21:19
don't necessarily agree or disagree with those guys either,
5:21:22
you know, like sometimes like the Church of Satan whenever I
5:21:25
talked to some of those guys, they had some pretty sound
5:21:27
philosophy themselves. But I was just like I don't give
5:21:31
a shit about Satanism, just hold on.
5:21:33
Yeah yeah I've talked to Zach black and that a reverend guy
5:21:37
that was telling you about we have some really really good
5:21:39
discussions. You gotta go back to the older
5:21:43
shows and talk about the ones are in Spotify radio though.
5:21:46
It's pretty much stream, you know, just simply uploaded to
5:21:51
it. And you know, it's in another.
5:21:56
So one of the things that's like people like well man, even if
5:22:00
you were to believe in God, you can't listen to orbit Angel and
5:22:03
DSi and and Venom, you know, that will send you to hell and
5:22:07
I'm like, do you know how goofy half that shit?
5:22:10
Is I'm like it's fantasy to me. Like that's just a bunch of
5:22:13
metalheads screaming and screaming at the world to me.
5:22:16
Even if they are satanists. It's like to me, I think it's
5:22:19
silly. It's just like a bunch of.
5:22:21
This is heavy metal shit. You know, is I don't take any of
5:22:24
that seriously, but I've been told that my music satanic so it
5:22:29
is I just a few weeks ago, I was you know, Christians and as
5:22:34
somebody said, you're you're music, is is heavy and mean and
5:22:39
all this kind of stuff and I said like a slow songs as well.
5:22:43
If that if that's not your genre or whatever, you know, it's just
5:22:46
sounds like Devil's music and I said, oh, I have heard Satan CD
5:22:51
before, where do I buy that? Actually, there are some black
5:22:55
metal bands. I really like, who are outright
5:22:57
Christian bands? There's from Sweden.
5:22:59
There's a band called admonished, they're Christian
5:23:01
and tester or Christian, um, let's see.
5:23:09
Temple of blood actually from Huntsville, Alabama.
5:23:11
They're a thrash metal band or Christian.
5:23:15
Yeah, dude. They're striper, the glam metal
5:23:18
band from the 80s. They fucking ruled, dude.
5:23:20
They're Christian is shit. And it's like, I don't have any
5:23:23
judgment on, like, even when I was younger and I had a bit of a
5:23:26
chip on my shoulder or whatever I still listen to that.
5:23:28
So because I'm like, man, they make good music.
5:23:31
I'll support them in fact, actually, I remember I was doing
5:23:34
a regional tour in Alabama, here in Alabama, whenever I was 15,
5:23:38
my death metal band Darkside Rising.
5:23:41
We we played the south of festival called South of Heaven,
5:23:45
It was named after a Slayer album and we played it was us
5:23:50
and a satanic black middle band. And a Christian black metal band
5:23:56
that were doing a show and the satanic black middle band were
5:24:00
complete uncouth assholes to the Christian band so much.
5:24:04
So that even I stepped in and said, you guys need to call the
5:24:08
fuk down. We're all here to play our
5:24:09
music, we're all here, put on the show.
5:24:11
These people right here to see us not just you any, if you
5:24:15
touch your equipment, if you fuck with their guitars, I'm
5:24:18
gonna have you on the ground because I just To me.
5:24:23
So like when it comes to music, I can deal with just about any,
5:24:27
you know there, I'll be honest with you.
5:24:29
I love being a black metal fan. There are some black metal bands
5:24:32
who are not cease who I'm like, fuck.
5:24:34
They make good music that can play Zelda to this shit.
5:24:37
I can't So it's like there's communist bands.
5:24:41
I listened to, you know, that so, when it comes to music, I
5:24:46
definitely have a loose sort of. Threshold for what?
5:24:50
I'll tolerate. I used to be really really into
5:24:54
zelled and Nintendo but as I got older I got into like Xbox and
5:24:59
I'm mostly stuck in the John Roberts to games like oh open
5:25:04
sandbox, survival type of stuff. Well, I want to pay the way for
5:25:09
a lot of that stuff for me, I love all.
5:25:10
Yeah, I really loved the character Lincoln and the whole
5:25:15
story to me, it was the only kind of there was that and
5:25:19
Dragon Quest and a couple other retro games that were really
5:25:22
good. But nowadays, I play like
5:25:24
Fallout stuff. I play a Star field, I even do
5:25:28
gameplay videos on my thing. I was originally before been
5:25:33
started up for me. I was just doing gaming videos.
5:25:36
I actually used to watch games. You love, believe it or not.
5:25:41
Oh yeah. Me and John had that connected
5:25:43
Channel and unfortunately my computer, I was doing computer
5:25:47
PC games of time but fucking thing blew up and I didn't have
5:25:52
a good video card at that point in time.
5:25:54
So now I'm streaming my Xbox through twitch and then putting
5:25:59
it up or not YouTube. that's, Actually, I don't really have,
5:26:03
I'll be honest with you. I'm so busy anymore.
5:26:05
Like, I hardly ever get to play video games.
5:26:08
But like, I've been talking to a buddy.
5:26:10
I hadn't seen in 12 years, he moved back to Alabama recently,
5:26:13
and we were actually wanting to get together and do some do like
5:26:16
a little light-hearted gaming channel, and stuff like that,
5:26:18
you know? You know, just something for
5:26:21
fun. We want to do a.
5:26:22
I know this is kind of like what I said before about drinking.
5:26:26
I'm not a heavy drinker but we want to do a thing where I have
5:26:30
to I have to and I'm not the result of Veteran but he wants
5:26:34
me to play through the water temple in Ocarina of Time and
5:26:37
every time I fucking die or get lost, I have to take a shot.
5:26:42
Oh boy. Oh man, that depressing
5:26:47
something. If you're already in depression
5:26:51
issues, oh, this is just for like, this will be just for like
5:26:55
a bullshit stream thing just because it's funny.
5:27:00
It's all good. You might want to.
5:27:02
You might want to seriously try Fallout 4, a star field.
5:27:06
I think they'd really get before I started field.
5:27:10
Looks awesome man. I wish I had it might do my PC.
5:27:13
I actually had a toss it a while back because it died on me and I
5:27:17
haven't been on Steam in forever, man.
5:27:19
I used to have so many good games. well, you have any any
5:27:24
kind of machine or Council over there, where you can play I'm I
5:27:29
think, actually Jared. I'm gonna try to buy his old PS4
5:27:32
from him since he has his PS5, so we can both sort of stream
5:27:35
independently, if we're not together.
5:27:37
So that's what I'm gonna try and do.
5:27:40
Know I I was recently but what it was a little while ago, but I
5:27:46
was playing with some atheists in a game called Elder Scrolls
5:27:49
Online. It's a MMO for Elder Scrolls.
5:27:52
We had a pagan in our group called Von and I he knows that I
5:27:58
told him, I said, look, I got to use the restroom and we were at
5:28:01
the beginning of dungeon, we were getting ready to take on
5:28:04
and he goes. All right.
5:28:06
And I know he fucking heard me because he actually said, yeah.
5:28:09
All right, so, I went to go basically do my my manly duties
5:28:14
and shit like that. I come back, he's fucking dead.
5:28:17
He's screaming and yelling what the fuck, why my dad, and he
5:28:20
goes you were supposed to heal me Brett.
5:28:22
I'm like, dude, I told you I was going to take a fucking piss.
5:28:26
You run right into a fucking mob of Junction and everything and
5:28:29
garbage and you think I'm gonna be able to take a piss and move
5:28:33
my controller. He got real.
5:28:36
He actually took a very fucking personal and said, the atheist
5:28:40
for laughing at him. But I was like, dude, you need
5:28:43
to let, I'll let you know when I'm fucking ready.
5:28:45
Don't just run in it because I got to heal everybody, right?
5:28:48
Oh Dude, I used to love playing this game on Steam.
5:28:55
It's basically a rework. It's been around a long time.
5:28:57
It's a rework of the original Half-Life.
5:28:59
It's a like, a multiplayer version of it called spin Co-op.
5:29:05
And dude, it had a small community, maybe 2000 people
5:29:08
globally play. We're playing it at any given
5:29:11
time and man, that had we, that game had memes for days, anytime
5:29:17
somebody fucked something up, or fail to Mission or got us killed
5:29:20
or something, everybody knew about it and like, it would go
5:29:25
on for months. We just fuck on him.
5:29:27
We knew what servers they were they play in and we'd go in and
5:29:31
fuck with them. Like 2000 people.
5:29:36
And man that was some good times, man.
5:29:38
I do miss gaming, though. I missed so much.
5:29:40
I missed Fallout. I missed half life Zelda.
5:29:43
All that shit, dude. Life is just been life.
5:29:46
Has been kind of up my ass lately.
5:29:49
How did you? I I don't know if anybody ever
5:29:52
covered this and said that a while back, I used to back in
5:29:56
the day where they were so doing the burning Crusade.
5:29:58
The normal classic. Wow, he ever played out.
5:30:02
Oh no, I actually missed the wow train because I didn't get this
5:30:08
sucks. Now, I didn't get the internet
5:30:09
or a computer until I was 18. I missed the wow train man.
5:30:13
That's and I really wish. I got to play it because like, I
5:30:19
know you can still play it, but like Wow, it's so much fun and I
5:30:24
never got to play it, to be honest with you.
5:30:27
Well, you could you could play all the way up to level 20 won't
5:30:31
be able to progress but you'd be able to run around pretty much
5:30:34
wherever you want. I was playing with a Muslim and
5:30:36
shed and we went into the thing called The Crusade chapel.
5:30:40
And he said to me, he goes I bet you a hundred dollars and he
5:30:45
said 100 dollars up, put it in your PayPal account if you run
5:30:49
in and take on the main boss and bring the whole Dungeons and
5:30:52
down on you. What happens is if you attack
5:30:55
the main boss, you can run right up through the church attack the
5:30:59
guy in the hundreds of fucking assholes come out and start
5:31:02
slamming on you. They want to kill you.
5:31:04
I was like and he said I give you this money if you do it.
5:31:09
So I was like, all right, hold on a second ship.
5:31:12
My wife turned on the recorder. And I said, I'm going to do this
5:31:15
and this is back when Warcraft was actually fucking hard and
5:31:19
strategies that. So I ran up in there and my wife
5:31:22
turned, that'd be metal music over recording and I went in and
5:31:26
I That whole place up. He's like, oh my God, you're
5:31:30
actually fucking doing it and everything and I go.
5:31:32
Yeah. And I cooked the whole fucking
5:31:34
thing out the whole dungeon and one single hit by going after
5:31:38
the boss. And he didn't fucking pay me was
5:31:42
like, oh man, this bullshit. But yeah, that video is up.
5:31:46
That's one of the reasons why people are calling me like the
5:31:48
king of wow and all that because it's like our motherfuker and I
5:31:52
would have I would have ruined his life.
5:31:54
I would have killed him and take it all his shit.
5:31:58
Man. Well, we were, we were in the
5:32:00
same Alliance as horde in Alliance and if you're on the
5:32:04
same team, you can't kill another character and show like
5:32:07
that. So I I don't believe that
5:32:10
they've since then made PV PVP to where you can kill another
5:32:13
fucking player during your team, but I probably would have, I
5:32:17
would have dropped my fucking Mason on his ass, so over that.
5:32:19
But no 100 bucks for me. And he said, sometimes it's like
5:32:25
that. I've been in a game called No
5:32:26
More Room in hell, that's on Steam, it's a zombie game.
5:32:30
And it's really funny. It's actually a realistic zombie
5:32:34
game. Like, you have to shoot them in
5:32:36
the head and um, you can't get bitten.
5:32:39
You can't get clogged. You Can't Hide like you have to
5:32:44
like you're any given map, you're in the environments like
5:32:48
fully in like inner. You can interact with the
5:32:51
environment like in extensive ways like you can hide in cars,
5:32:54
you can hide and buildings, build barricades and Forts and
5:32:57
shit like that. And I swear to god, dude, I put
5:33:00
in all this effort and built like this, elaborate hideout in
5:33:03
the second story of this guy in my skyscraper, but like this old
5:33:06
apartment building And I got my I got I went out, ventured out
5:33:11
saved all my buddies and said let's hide here for now.
5:33:13
Then we'll make some plans we'll go over here it's like a big map
5:33:16
like you can you expand on the map and make it like The Walking
5:33:20
Dead. But it's kind of like The
5:33:22
Walking Dead games if they were actually like The Walking Dead
5:33:25
and she you not dude, I get all my friends together.
5:33:32
I get all my friends together and I'm like, it was all that.
5:33:35
I'll put an all this trouble to build this for just like little
5:33:37
fort thing and we're completely protected by the zombies and my
5:33:43
asshole friend. Will I don't talk to him anymore
5:33:46
as long story but like my asshole friend will just says,
5:33:49
hey. Hey, so hey, Aaron, don't turn
5:33:53
around. I said why he said don't turn
5:33:55
around. My dumbass turns around and he
5:33:59
and he starts laughing his ass off and I'm like what?
5:34:03
And I turned around and his carrot and he made his character
5:34:05
commits suicide and basically let like he you can commit
5:34:10
suicide. Like if you're cornered or
5:34:12
you're bitten or something and then you'll respond.
5:34:15
And like he committed suicide respawned on the other side of
5:34:20
the fort and set the forward on fire with me in it.
5:34:22
And I was like, you son of a bitch.
5:34:25
That's right. Let me grab me some water real
5:34:30
quick. We've been going on for about
5:34:32
five hours and 30 minutes and probably I'm gonna let it hit
5:34:36
the six hour mark and then set it down.
5:34:38
But I want you to know if you checked in front of me YouTube
5:34:41
channel, I do upcoming scheduled shows and you're always welcome.
5:34:45
So we got 30 more minutes. I got to get some water real
5:34:48
quick though. I got you, man.
5:34:50
I got subscribed. And talk to people plug your
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channel if you want to be right back.
5:34:57
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5:35:00
Again my name is Aaron mcbryar a a r o n m c b r y e r named
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5:35:30
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5:35:44
Yeah, sketch comedy. Um, drink.
5:35:49
Some drinking video drinking games involving like a video
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games and gaming streams General, playthroughs, kind of
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5:36:01
It's not something serious. It's nothing philosophical.
5:36:04
Or religious political or anything is just good fun, which
5:36:08
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5:36:13
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5:36:16
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5:36:41
getting together and laugh. Just laugh and having a good
5:36:43
time, some satire political political or otherwise, good
5:36:50
comedy. Just back in just You know,
5:36:54
guests, we hope to have some guests on the show.
5:36:56
I know. I know, I know some people we
5:36:59
might have on the show We'd like to have Brett on the show at
5:37:04
some point as well as TJ. Yeah.
5:37:09
So look out in the future. The next few weeks.
5:37:12
Look, look for super Fist and look for sit and spin.
5:37:17
So, thank you very much, you're doing a sit and spin show.
5:37:20
You said, yeah, on our soup, my friend.
5:37:23
And I are a little gaming thing when I do we were calling the
5:37:26
channel super fist, but we're gonna have a little podcast
5:37:29
segment in the podcast, will be called a sit and spin where
5:37:33
we're sitting, and we're sitting and, you know, just sitting and
5:37:35
talking and it'll be my old bass player, Charlie with my buddy
5:37:39
Jared and and I said it's I told him to be similar to the pka,
5:37:44
podcast, or deep fat fried, but way less political.
5:37:47
And what politics? We would cover would be in such
5:37:50
a terrible manner. We'll have, we'll try to have
5:37:53
guests. It'd be a comedy satire gaming
5:37:57
nerdy shit movie discussions over.
5:38:01
Its up to be a variety. Nice.
5:38:02
Little variety, show. Something fun like think back in
5:38:05
the days of Rooster Teeth or like, You know, 2014 YouTube or
5:38:11
2012 YouTube, when it was still fun.
5:38:13
So that sort of thing, nothing serious, not something heavy,
5:38:16
just people having a good time, I invited you onto the show,
5:38:19
your officially invited. And I invited TJ Kirk.
5:38:24
It sounds good. I put the link to Smokey over
5:38:27
there. Smokey does shows throughout the
5:38:29
week and all that and I when he goes live, I usually go over
5:38:33
there and hang out all that stuff.
5:38:35
So Appreciate you. Let me plug myself man.
5:38:40
Yeah I come in here with the good intentions.
5:38:42
I did not come in here to bait you or to fuck with you or
5:38:45
anything like that. So and I appreciate the time.
5:38:48
You've given me, you've given me like a night shift, it's worth
5:38:51
the time. It's all good.
5:38:53
And remember, I've got scheduled shows on the front of my
5:38:58
channel. You can always comment on the
5:39:00
right. Do it.
5:39:00
Now you got to I got to do. I do have to warn you.
5:39:04
There are some Christians that we get in the room.
5:39:06
We get a lot of people differently and some of them are
5:39:10
a little bit more and intense than I am where they they feel
5:39:15
like they're obligated to get, get out after people so you
5:39:20
gotta prepare for that. Hey, man, there's a like I said,
5:39:23
dude, I've interviewed not cease, commies, most Christians,
5:39:27
have I, I've gotten along with all of them.
5:39:32
So, however, you streaming yards before his first time being in
5:39:36
one. This is actually my first time
5:39:38
using it Well, I don't know if you'd be interested in this, if
5:39:43
you sign up for a stream yards account, you could actually when
5:39:48
you see that I'm gonna be going live in a little while.
5:39:51
You could come in and there's a button at the top that says
5:39:54
connect your channel and you would be able to stream any show
5:39:58
or broadcast that we do to your channel.
5:40:01
So you have extra content, okay. Yeah, you know, you wouldn't
5:40:06
feel any kind of way about me having TJ of my on the show that
5:40:10
my friends and I are going to do I don't have as much issue with
5:40:15
a TJ TJ. I don't think he's done like a.
5:40:18
Whoa, we're having some major feedback, so kind of screeching
5:40:22
in the air. Hold on.
5:40:23
I don't really have as much problem with TJ and said,
5:40:27
everything that we had issue with.
5:40:29
I think that that pretty much we said all we're going to say on
5:40:32
the thing. The only reason why anything's
5:40:36
ever bought up about him is actually mostly because the DP
5:40:40
fans constantly saying, hey, why did you say this on a show, five
5:40:44
something years ago or whatever. And then you gotta fucking, I
5:40:47
had to respond to. I tried doing the just ignore
5:40:50
them and don't even bother, but they won't ever fucking stop
5:40:54
until you say something, you know how it is, if you don't
5:40:57
respond, you know, something coward.
5:40:59
And if you do respond, I'll post it.
5:41:02
I don't believe it kind of thing.
5:41:03
It's fucking on since. So what?
5:41:06
Yeah, do I actually have a remark about I actually have a
5:41:11
thing. I want to talk about regarding
5:41:12
DP fans because I you, you are going to appreciate this
5:41:16
actually. So back in the day when I was
5:41:20
watching the you know the drunken peasants alive like
5:41:23
hatching the show live. I used to catch it all the time
5:41:26
I cuz I'd be like TJ, what's up, what's up, you know Ben, what's
5:41:30
up? So always try to interact with
5:41:33
him, you know and DP fans, especially back.
5:41:39
Then in the ones that are left over that are fucking with you.
5:41:41
That are pretty much the leftovers from the old days.
5:41:45
There's like two categories, almost to DP fans.
5:41:49
Do you have the guys like me who just really enjoyed the show?
5:41:52
And it was a good time. It was nice to get stoned and
5:41:55
watch at the end of a long day and laugh.
5:41:58
Then you have the people that like The Mouse and the people
5:42:01
that fuck with you. The people that like the mouse
5:42:04
and people's business and then they make it like a personal
5:42:06
fucking mission. Like you, like you may be
5:42:09
initially thought I was going to make it.
5:42:11
You have these DP fans who are rabid who are kind of crazy, you
5:42:16
know, honesty. Because I remember back in the
5:42:18
day, the racial slurs and homophobic slurs and edgy
5:42:23
Fortune here shit. They would say, in the chats, I
5:42:25
don't remember all that and I sure it was funny at the time.
5:42:29
And I would say some, Pretty edgy shit myself, you know going
5:42:33
along. I wouldn't just be racist or for
5:42:35
the sake of it or anything like that, but yeah, but there are
5:42:39
some DP fans who are of the variety.
5:42:42
They're the kind of people who Invest themselves. on, you know,
5:42:47
into an online presence to the point where it becomes
5:42:50
parasocial and they become like, almost like hostile people like
5:42:56
their desensitized because they're like chronically online
5:42:59
and they feel, it's appropriate to troll people like Cobra,
5:43:02
like, king cobra, or yourself or Anybody really like, or even
5:43:08
troll Paul whenever they were still going on this channel and
5:43:11
fucking with them? And So there are those kind of
5:43:14
people, a deep fat fried. Fans are actually a bit more
5:43:17
under control, like, those guys seem to have cultivated or
5:43:22
pretty Shield, pretty friendly fan base.
5:43:25
Like I have a pretty good time in the deep in the defect that
5:43:29
freed chat. Whereas back in the DP days it
5:43:33
was not uncommon for me to see a call DF slurs for no fucking
5:43:37
reason. So I think there's something
5:43:40
about some DP fans probably a good 40. 50% of them were
5:43:44
they're just a little on the crazier side and they want to
5:43:47
fuck with people because they think it's funny like honestly,
5:43:50
a lot of them were fourchan people because I was a Fourth
5:43:53
Man person. I never like I said, I never
5:43:54
seen anybody or threatened kill people like some of those guys
5:43:57
do, but That's where a lot of that comes from.
5:44:00
And so, Brent, I know you have your feelings towards been, but
5:44:05
I just hope you realize, like not all of those Deep Heat fans
5:44:08
or DFS fans, feel that way about you and we don't have any real
5:44:12
animosity towards you. And sometimes it's a curiosity,
5:44:16
sometimes it's indifferent. Some of them don't care.
5:44:18
Some of them are curious like myself and for a long time, I
5:44:21
was sort of indifferent about you because I didn't say, I
5:44:24
didn't, oh, I don't care about the guy.
5:44:25
Fuck that guy not like that, but it's I didn't hate you.
5:44:28
I didn't feel any the way they feel about you because I didn't
5:44:32
know you that. Well, I didn't really, you know,
5:44:34
I need your gaming channel. I thought you were all right.
5:44:37
so, That's what I want to say about DP fans.
5:44:42
I know I I unfortunately have ran into just a couple handfuls
5:44:47
where it turns out there pretty decent and cooling up to be
5:44:51
friends with but it's see. Unfortunately my experience a
5:44:55
majority of them just seemed like they won, tried to
5:44:58
intimidate or get tough with me. You know, that kind of shit the
5:45:03
internet. You know, they think that they
5:45:07
hide in the Anime Avatar and have a goofy name, like, fat
5:45:10
sack 169 or something, they think they can just go around
5:45:14
fucking with people, you know? And it was the kind of people
5:45:17
who are chronic and online. Dude, those kind of people are
5:45:20
threatening to kill people, docs people or say just, oh, this
5:45:23
guy's a kind of file that guy's had a file.
5:45:26
Those but you won't change our hearts or their mind.
5:45:28
So this is the people that are just set out to ruin to fuck
5:45:30
with people because they think it's funny because they
5:45:33
themselves have no fucking wrong.
5:45:34
It. I know anything to say about
5:45:37
internet people but No, I actually believe that.
5:45:41
I believe that there are some worthless fucking bugs out there
5:45:44
for sure. I'm not trying to be mean.
5:45:49
There are some people who they just contribute.
5:45:51
Absolutely nothing. Okay.
5:45:54
Yeah. That's okay.
5:45:57
You sure you don't have any more questions.
5:46:00
I think we're pretty well covered for tonight, man.
5:46:04
It's been fruitful. Hmm, actually didn't mind you
5:46:09
bringing up the Reddit post either because I'm glad I got to
5:46:12
clarify that. That's cool.
5:46:17
Yeah man, it's been a good time and I appreciate your time.
5:46:21
In fact. This changes my perspective on a
5:46:25
lot of things and changes. My perspective about you, I
5:46:29
never had any real negative feelings you.
5:46:31
Regardless, I just thought, like, I want to see what the
5:46:34
fuck's going on. I like, for some reason, I just
5:46:37
like, I know, it's not my fight that's between you and or Paul
5:46:41
or whatever but like I'm like I gotta figure out what the folks
5:46:45
going on because d a dff and DP lately has been non-stop.
5:46:50
Brett Keane, Brett Keane. Brett Keane.
5:46:53
Oh, I haven't. I thought the DFS stopped the
5:46:57
about a year ago. I didn't realize they were still
5:47:00
talking because of because of the pit monk thing and the
5:47:03
cobra. Well I don't see what the big
5:47:08
fucking deal is on that out to be on with you told me he was
5:47:13
out of the many many times and shit.
5:47:16
So it is what it is. I personally what's what's
5:47:20
really funny is I'm in Annihilation.
5:47:22
So I don't even believe he's going to be tormented to the
5:47:26
hell and anything like that. Anyway do you know what an
5:47:29
isolationist? Yes.
5:47:30
Someone who believes that eventually, like I think God
5:47:34
will annihilate. I think something like
5:47:38
eventually all the souls and hit and inhale.
5:47:41
And on Earth will God will collect them sort of speak?
5:47:44
They will be blasting Grand in the heaven.
5:47:48
Is that true? Oh, that's that's more of like a
5:47:50
universalism type of I'm I believe in something in the
5:47:56
Bible, it's called the second death, what it is is it's the
5:48:01
first death, obviously is a physical body and the second
5:48:04
death is whenever the soul is absolutely annihilated.
5:48:07
It's destroyed. And what happens in the process
5:48:10
is the person no longer exists. It's like they never even
5:48:14
existed at all, you know, how the Bible says, if you go to
5:48:17
heaven, there'll be no. Tears, will be no sorrow, no
5:48:21
suffering. Well, how can you enjoy Heaven?
5:48:23
If you're constantly seeing people that you may have
5:48:27
actually respected or liked burning and some kind of fiery
5:48:30
pit forever? So, for my view, my theology is
5:48:34
and Christians, a lot of Christians disagree with me on
5:48:36
this, but I believe that the Bible is stating that the
5:48:40
Everlasting fire, the fire itself is forever, but the
5:48:45
destruction of the soul is, is minimal.
5:48:48
Its temporal, So yeah, so for them sitting there saying oh
5:48:54
yeah he saying took months going to hell and all this kind of
5:48:57
shit. If you think about it.
5:48:59
I'm pretty much stating exactly what atheists believe, right.
5:49:04
The problem they had was it, what?
5:49:06
Paul and TJ and Scotty said that they see Ben was a little more
5:49:09
fuck you about it but Paul and Paul was a bit more fuck you
5:49:12
about it. But what how TJ and Scotty put
5:49:15
it is that they didn't like the description that you but because
5:49:19
they said they felt like at least they found at the very
5:49:23
least. It was disrespectful because
5:49:25
it's actually since he died. He passed away so soon.
5:49:28
And they felt the description of it was a bit uncalled for.
5:49:32
That's how they felt about it. Which part?
5:49:36
About roasting in Hell screaming for his mom is skin melting off
5:49:39
stuff like that. Oh, well, that's not what I
5:49:43
actually believe. And I even clarified that
5:49:46
towards the end of the video, I I said I'm in Annihilation, as I
5:49:50
don't believe that that's actually gonna happen.
5:49:51
So the reason why I even worded it that way, I I knew that that
5:49:57
would be a little bit goofy. It was intended to aggravate the
5:50:00
piss out of unfortunately, even though I'm in Annihilation, I do
5:50:04
believe that there could be some suffering involved with the sole
5:50:09
being destroyed. But pimp isn't just some guy
5:50:11
that I randomly decided to make a video about that, he has
5:50:15
repeatedly made fun of my mother's suicide.
5:50:18
He's made fun of my grandmother dying from cancer.
5:50:22
He's a implied that I beat the fuck out of my daughter who had
5:50:27
a disability there. So I mean you gotta understand
5:50:30
that from a religious person's point of view someone with that
5:50:33
kind of personality, they simply cannot, you know if the Bible is
5:50:39
a true that they're not Going to be able to pass.
5:50:42
Go collect 200 dollars, it's not an insult.
5:50:45
There could be very well, some Christians out there that are on
5:50:49
their way to Fucking fuck around.
5:50:51
Find out type of deal. You know if Ben or if Ben or
5:50:57
dff, if DP or dff see this and they hear you, they hear you say
5:51:03
that like, oh pit monk said this about my family and about me and
5:51:06
stuff like that. There may know they know cuz
5:51:10
that monks did this in front of been many times on his show.
5:51:14
So it's not like Ben doesn't know this shit.
5:51:17
And you got to remember, too, before, before this video, was
5:51:22
ever, even made, they have made over 10 years for to fucking
5:51:26
content about me, so it's it's no surprise.
5:51:30
It's not like, whoa, holy shit. Where that come from?
5:51:34
you can also look at it from the Christian perspective of like
5:51:39
forgiveness and saying well he's passed away, he's probably he
5:51:42
probably isn't hell and he probably is burning but As a
5:51:46
Christian, I can forgive him because Jesus died for our sins
5:51:49
and the side, I can do even better than that.
5:51:52
And I actually have, I've already, I've already been like
5:51:55
this and I'll do it right here. Dear God, I do not wish for pimp
5:52:00
monk X to sucker in any kind of way or his family.
5:52:03
A dear God, if there's any opportunity because you knew his
5:52:07
heart, you knew what he was. Whenever he was on a podcast
5:52:10
show, if he gets accepted in the heaven, I completely go with
5:52:15
your will and Jesus name. Amen.
5:52:17
So there you go. You can see that.
5:52:20
I, I don't actually want the man to suffer.
5:52:22
I don't want him to hurt and I do forgive him for all that kind
5:52:26
of stuff. So I'm sorry that it irritated
5:52:30
them if it's actually often or sincere, but it is the Christian
5:52:34
belief that the people don't accept God and try to do better
5:52:38
in their life that unfortunately, that's the
5:52:40
outcome. But think about it, if I'm in
5:52:43
Annihilation this and I believe that Person goes a non-existence
5:52:46
is that not exactly the same thing that an atheist thinks if
5:52:51
you died tomorrow and there's no God.
5:52:53
Then where do you go? yeah, like I personally think it
5:53:00
the way, I personally think it's gonna be like, if there's not a
5:53:04
God or have any kind of afterlife, I think it'd be kind
5:53:08
of like the way it was before you were born.
5:53:10
You wouldn't remember. You would there be just like if
5:53:14
you like, before you were born? You'll Mark Twain quote.
5:53:19
Yeah, because like I think Mark Twain himself, wasn't he in
5:53:23
atheist? He's got to go and he definitely
5:53:26
had some quotes. I'm not really sure where is you
5:53:29
went beyond that, but that was one of the things he said, he
5:53:33
said, I suspected death will be just like before.
5:53:37
I was born, I simply won't have any awareness of that.
5:53:41
That was actually something I used to say whenever I was
5:53:44
talking to religious folks and they go, well, that's an
5:53:48
interesting way of putting it. And I'd say, yeah, that's Mark,
5:53:50
Twain's, that's what he believed and they go.
5:53:53
Oh, and I said, oh, and Mark Twain was also fucking racist by
5:53:56
the way. So there you go.
5:53:58
That's brilliant people in the past.
5:54:04
Were a product of their time, like my favorite composer of all
5:54:07
time, the German composer, Richard Wagner had a Jewish best
5:54:11
friend, made some of those beautiful music ever made.
5:54:14
In my opinion, he wrote These Majestic operas about Norse
5:54:18
mythology and Germanic mythology. but he, despite
5:54:22
having a Jewish best friend was pretty anti-semitic, and it was
5:54:26
just like I've Oh can't do anything for remember this?
5:54:32
Because somebody had like some fucked up by ideas even in our
5:54:36
modern day. If someone has been fucking,
5:54:38
that's really positive or do something that's productive in
5:54:44
society, I'll give them their dues.
5:54:46
Like, for instance, earlier, you said that you were gloomy and
5:54:50
you were falling in an island and it was starting to get the
5:54:53
point where you were even questioning.
5:54:54
Existence, he said, TJ Kirk did something or said something that
5:54:59
helped move you out of that. And I think that's very
5:55:02
positive. That's fucking great.
5:55:04
That that happened. I'm glad you're still here.
5:55:06
Rocking it and all that I give him credit.
5:55:09
See I can do that for him. I bet they can't do that for me
5:55:12
though. I like to think that outside of
5:55:17
the internet and off of their off of their respective shows.
5:55:22
Maybe I wish I could meet them in person because I've always
5:55:25
wanted to go to a dff Meetup. But like I have a feeling, I
5:55:30
don't know. Huh.
5:55:33
Why didn't you ever go to their thing?
5:55:35
That's it's never nearby. It's always far away and I don't
5:55:39
have the time. It's it's always a logistical
5:55:41
problem for me. Um, but I have a feeling like,
5:55:46
especially with having talked to Chelsea and like, TJ off outside
5:55:50
of the show. I have a feeling that are a
5:55:53
little bit more flexible than you might give them credit for,
5:55:56
you know, Why, like I said to you, man, I've been friends with
5:56:02
him before I, I understand from DP fans pointed here.
5:56:06
Whoa, that feedback is horrific. Hold on, I mean that real quick.
5:56:10
I used to talk to him on Skype and shit and have conversations
5:56:13
in the background with them. Hell, I I would say that and I
5:56:17
know this is going to piss off some DP fans out there, but I
5:56:21
feel like I actually had a friendship with him as were
5:56:25
these other folks were out in the fucking comments doing the
5:56:28
poop ball shit. They never really got to knowing
5:56:31
where I have discussions with him directly unless you were a
5:56:35
fucking Patriot or something, but I didn't have to pay to hang
5:56:38
out with him and talk. Now remember, I helped support
5:56:41
him. I plugged him.
5:56:43
So I haven't always had this, like, towards and Yeah.
5:56:47
I mean, he I don't know about Paul.
5:56:51
I mean, judging, I would be honest with you judging by his
5:56:54
live streams as of the past, like six months sometimes,
5:56:58
Paul's chill. But he seems a little irritable
5:57:01
anymore. So I don't know about Paul per
5:57:03
se, but Scotty Scotty, he's really cool to me.
5:57:07
I love Scott, he's a great guy but he, you know, he can be a
5:57:10
little explosive but like specifically, Chelsea and TJ, I
5:57:14
think I think maybe if somehow you guys were able to talk, I
5:57:19
think maybe you might come to an agreement or some sort of like
5:57:22
respectful. Conclusion.
5:57:25
You know, maybe you could have some rapport with him.
5:57:29
Again at some point why I actually tried during the
5:57:32
drunken peasants time. Whenever I was being invited to
5:57:35
show there was a couple times where he and I talked for like
5:57:39
30 minutes before a show would go they'd be waiting for Ben to
5:57:43
get together. You want me to tell you a neat
5:57:46
story that you might think really interesting?
5:57:49
Yeah, go for it. Okay, there's not a lot of DP
5:57:53
fans that know this. I I'm gonna have to meet you
5:57:56
Mike though, because it's screeching in my ear.
5:57:59
Okay, so, oh boy. This is probably gonna blow your
5:58:05
fucking mind. So you got to hear father for
5:58:08
the first time, the new remake. And now you get to hear a behind
5:58:12
the scenes deal that you probably never even heard.
5:58:15
So me and him sitting in the background and everything and or
5:58:19
chat and all that. And I told him, I said, you
5:58:23
know, we could just let bygones be bygones, you know, it would
5:58:26
blow people's mind and sits for all in the WWE wrestling.
5:58:30
I said that, why don't we? Why don't we just towards the
5:58:34
end of the episodes and shut we just say fucking and you know,
5:58:38
shake hands and be cool. And I said, I'll even if you
5:58:43
want, whenever Paul's not doing his thing, I'll co-host with
5:58:47
you. I've got no problem with this.
5:58:50
And he goes, that sounds like a really cool idea.
5:58:52
He goes it is but the problem is that I put up all these pages
5:58:57
and people wanted to see a firing squad type of deal, this
5:59:01
is what they wanted and he goes basically, you're how did he put
5:59:06
that? He said you like the milk and
5:59:10
the butter or something. You're a cash cow at this point
5:59:12
by being the villain. The, you know the what?
5:59:16
What is an antagonist of the of the deal?
5:59:18
Yeah. So yeah, we did talk.
5:59:23
I I did actually put forth this idea and he goes and you're done
5:59:28
with all the bullshit and everything like that.
5:59:30
You're done with your aggravation.
5:59:31
I said dude, I haven't talked about you guys forever and you
5:59:36
guys come up with a podcast, you invited me on.
5:59:39
Remember, I didn't come at you and shit.
5:59:42
So there was that. And then once the video started
5:59:45
in the episode, then I started making videos responses.
5:59:51
Oh, I see. So you tried and he was like,
5:59:55
hey, he has to be this way because of the show.
5:59:59
I got you. Yeah, so it's that's what he
6:00:03
wanted. He was it was about money and
6:00:05
actually getting good viewership on the shows. oh, You want to
6:00:13
sign us out or you want me to play something or what you want
6:00:16
to do. Yeah, you want to play something
6:00:18
real quick? I'll play us out.
6:00:20
Maybe. Yeah. oh, let's do a Something
6:00:27
that could like fit on acoustic because I have like a list here.
6:00:30
Some of these are like straight up like Black Sabbath and shit
6:00:33
which might not work but I'm trying to think where I could
6:00:38
play. Um, let's get this going here.
6:00:47
Oh wait, wait a second. I unfortunately, my mind had
6:00:51
turned into oatmeal. Let me I didn't tell you exactly
6:00:54
what happened here. Remember, I was telling you
6:00:56
sitting in the back of Skype and said on one of those towards one
6:01:00
of the last episode's have you. I don't know if you were a
6:01:04
patreon, but did you see the mind of the manatee?
6:01:06
Both set? Oh, super long time ago.
6:01:10
Okay, so this is gonna fucking shock.
6:01:13
You did. Here's what happened.
6:01:15
So we're doing this ship, we're doing this entire show.
6:01:18
We're running at about fucking about two hours and and he was
6:01:24
wanting to go for three hours. What happens is, is Ben fucked
6:01:29
up and the broadcast crashed. And the Amazing Atheist was
6:01:34
like, what the hell happened? What?
6:01:35
What's going on my screen? Go black, because he's still
6:01:39
there Brad and I go. Yeah, I'm still here.
6:01:40
I can still see you guys up on the screen.
6:01:43
He goes, oh you can still see us and hear us and I'm like yeah I
6:01:47
can hear you and see you and So Ben Ben's freaking out, he's
6:01:54
panicking and all that and he goes oh fuck and they go what
6:01:57
and he goes I lost the whole fucking stream.
6:02:01
And TJ goes what the fuck we've been doing this for two hours
6:02:06
and pay stupid vets and he fucked it all up and I go, you
6:02:11
guys are still going to pay me, right?
6:02:12
And he goes, yeah, fucking pants.
6:02:14
I just can't believe the whole fucking thing was ruined.
6:02:16
This was supposed to be exclusive and I said, I'll tell
6:02:19
you what. You give me two thousand dollars
6:02:23
instead of 1,000 and I'll get you, your copy, and we'll finish
6:02:27
this out. And he goes what, how the hell
6:02:29
are you gonna do that? I said I fucking him recording
6:02:32
the whole thing. I got the whole damn thing
6:02:34
sitting back here and he goes you got a copy of it.
6:02:37
Mr. Keen. And I said yeah I said but you
6:02:41
gonna have to pay me an extra Grand since I'm doing a tech
6:02:44
work over here for you to fucking roast my ass, you know,
6:02:48
I I deserve to make some money off of that and he was so
6:02:51
fucking happy and I said as soon as you guys get done doing your
6:02:56
roasting, a Brett King, I will email you the fucking file and I
6:03:00
did and they put the money in my damn PayPal.
6:03:03
So you see I'm a generous fucking guy.
6:03:07
Come on Ben, come on teaching. Come on, Paul and Scotty, you
6:03:12
can't. Okay, when you get a chance to
6:03:18
talk to him, they did Brett Keane.
6:03:20
Save the show. Yes.
6:03:23
They might, I don't. Call my be quick to me or
6:03:26
something because he's been in the movie.
6:03:29
Little kind of moods. He's been.
6:03:31
I haven't watched them for a while.
6:03:32
I thought the last video they covered in me was a year ago.
6:03:36
I didn't know. They were still talking but you
6:03:38
said it's over pimp monk X, right?
6:03:41
Oh, the last, the last couple. Yeah.
6:03:45
Um, oh, about Paul, he's been in a fucking mood lately, just cuz
6:03:50
like, I used to religiously watch, Heidi, his ideology live
6:03:55
streams that he would do himself in his backyard and stuff, and I
6:03:58
love those. I used to be really insightful
6:04:00
and honestly, and if he sees this, he's probably gonna be
6:04:03
like, oh, fuck you. But like, it's his stuff.
6:04:06
He can do what he wants by. Just I feel like in the past six
6:04:08
months or so, Paul's been just kind of in a goddamn mood, like
6:04:12
he, like, he's I go in there and he's pissed off of it.
6:04:16
And it's not like in the old days where he's ranting about
6:04:18
some sort of social ill. He he's angry about it, it's
6:04:21
just like him just being irritable with the audience and
6:04:24
it's like, it's not fun to watch.
6:04:28
Oh, that's rough. Now, I don't know what the
6:04:31
thing. I love him on the show, I love
6:04:34
him on the show. You know, so I thought it's not
6:04:38
like oh I'm just saying like damn, bro, like you used to be a
6:04:43
lot more fun. I think your live streams it's
6:04:48
Gonna tell you what I might do a Black Sabbath song.
6:04:50
Just as a little tribute to Ozzy Osbourne because I want to say
6:04:53
rest in peace to Ozzy Osbourne, who who's music inspired me to
6:04:58
play guitar via Randi Rhodes, his guitar player.
6:05:02
But I, I am not good enough to play a Randi Rhodes song, so
6:05:06
because that is insane. I'll play tomorrow's Dream by
6:05:10
Black Sabbath. So this is for Ozzy Osbourne.
6:05:15
This is a heavy heavy song but I'm going to do a sort of
6:05:18
bluesy, like You.
6:06:47
Go. Rest in peace Ozzy Osborne.
6:06:50
God bless Black Sabbath. All right, I'm gonna tell you
6:06:54
I'm gonna do something neat for you.
6:06:56
After I in the show I'm going to make a video apology, public
6:07:01
apology video about. I'm going to do that and I'm
6:07:05
gonna also say that I dedicated to Aaron mcbryar.
6:07:09
All right? Dude, I knew dude.
6:07:13
I appreciate that. You don't have to do that, dude,
6:07:16
I appreciate that. Oh, it's, it's cool.
6:07:18
I didn't realize that it. I, I thought people would
6:07:21
understand. I thought people would get that
6:07:23
me. And him didn't have the most
6:07:25
wonderful relationship. But if it's actually affecting
6:07:28
innocent people out there, you've got no issues and and all
6:07:32
this kind of stuff that's really hurt somebody and some kind of
6:07:35
way then, I will do a public apology video.
6:07:37
Hey, brother. And I know, he said someone
6:07:40
toward things about you and your family. but, you know, Just try
6:07:45
to remember. Like I know you didn't have a
6:07:47
just try to remember the positive interactions you had
6:07:50
with them like my buddy. Like on the guy I was talking
6:07:52
about earlier that black metal guy, he killed the guy, he
6:07:56
killed he won't say. He'll think he won't speak ill
6:07:59
of him. People be like, oh he was a
6:08:01
piece of shit. I bet he would tell me, tell me
6:08:03
more about him. He's I know he was a great
6:08:05
guitar player, a good songwriter.
6:08:06
He was really funny, he just he did something very bad and he
6:08:10
tried to hurt me. So I killed him. and so I
6:08:13
believe in like when someone passes away, We try to remember
6:08:17
the best we can about them even if they even if they crossed us.
6:08:22
So rest in peace pimp, Monk and rest in peace.
6:08:27
King cobra JFS. They're not claiming I said
6:08:31
something negative about king cobra.
6:08:33
Are they? Oh, been kind of not exactly
6:08:38
nothing negative. But been said.
6:08:41
That you didn't know him, you never talked to him, you have no
6:08:44
room to talk about him or anything like that but like it's
6:08:47
whatever I've been around for 20 years, I king cobra has been
6:08:51
around for a very long two time to Ben's.
6:08:54
Got a realize that king cobra wasn't always, he didn't always
6:08:58
have a lot of subscribers. There was a time when guys like
6:09:02
asman gold weren't super big and pootie pie.
6:09:06
They built herself up, but there there is opportunity.
6:09:10
Just like you talked to me now and stuff.
6:09:12
I used to have almost fucking 50,000 subscribers and one
6:09:16
account but here I am talking to you.
6:09:18
Now it happened. People talk to each other.
6:09:21
And I think I really hope that one of these days.
6:09:24
Maybe I don't know about Paul and Ben I'm sure you don't want
6:09:27
to fucking thing to do with Ben but like it Paul TJ and Scotty.
6:09:32
I hope maybe one of these days and we can you guys you guys can
6:09:37
just get together and laugh again and just have a good
6:09:40
employee nothing against Scotty whatsoever.
6:09:44
I'm the only thing I've ever called him is the Echo Timber
6:09:47
back in the day. When you remember, back in the
6:09:50
day with drunken peasants, the only thing he really did to me
6:09:53
was the Amazing Atheist would say something and he would go.
6:09:57
Yeah. Yeah man.
6:09:58
Yeah, I'll tell you a funny. I don't even know if you know
6:10:02
about this, you'll love this. There's this old Amazing Atheist
6:10:06
video where TJ was responding to something.
6:10:09
Paul's ego said before they were friends and TJ was like that's
6:10:14
fucking stupid. You're an idiot and blah blah
6:10:16
blah to Paul and then Scotty walks into the room and looks at
6:10:21
Paul from TJ's computer and says, who's this F slur?
6:10:25
And then, or who's this fucking idiot.
6:10:27
And then TJ said, oh, some fat F slur.
6:10:29
I'm debating with referring to Paul.
6:10:34
Oh, it's funny. It's an old video for they even
6:10:38
this before they were friends. That's pretty.
6:10:41
All right. Well, I'm gonna play like some
6:10:44
kind of outro. For having me so much.
6:10:49
Thank you so much. Thank you for being patient with
6:10:51
me and for having me on as long as you.
6:10:53
No problem. Remember I'll do more shows.
6:10:57
You're always, welcome and smoke.
6:10:58
You have you too. I look forward to right.
6:11:01
Here we go video. And I look forward to coming on
6:11:04
here again and I'll let everyone on the drunk on the DP, Reddit
6:11:09
know how well this went, I promise you can go check.
6:11:11
Well, before you post anything over there, wait, just to give
6:11:16
me about less than 20 minutes, and I'll put that video up and
6:11:20
then you can share that as well. All right.
6:11:21
You got it, brother. All right, you could tell them.
6:11:25
I forced him at gunpoint. I did it.
6:11:28
All right. Okay, fair enough.
6:12:10
Be. Ready.