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01 Sep 22 – Shia LaBeouf and Our Daily Conversion · The Dr. Luis Sandoval Show – Virgin Most Powerful Radio

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  Dr. Luis Sandoval is accomplished in the fields of mental health and spiritual
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  warfare, a medical doctor board certified in neurology,
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  psychiatry and family medicine.
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  He is also a psychiatrist for the Roman Catholic diocese of orange ministry
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  of healing and deliverance. Now, Dr.
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  Luis Sandoval.
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  All right, folks. So welcome to bur most powerful radio.
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  You are listening to the Dr. Lu Sandoval show as always.
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  It's a pleasure to be here, to talk about our Catholic faith. Our here,
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  here at the clinic at the medical clinic, we talk about our spiritual health,
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  our physical health and our mental health today's show. Very important.
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  I'm sure many of you heard last week, uh, actor shy Lauff uh,
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  said that he is very passionate about the Catholic faith and it's all over the
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  internet. It's got, you know,
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  different people talking and have different opinions about it.
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  And what does this mean? Uh,
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  it's important for us to talk about this as Catholics. Uh,
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  assuming most of our listeners are either baptized Catholics,
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  passionate CRI Catholics already.
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  Why would this be important to talk about what does this mean for us now,
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  we're gonna talk about this today and we're gonna see what does it mean to have
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  passion about our faith versus just being a lukewarm Catholic.
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  These are important concepts to think about,
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  but first let's start with Angelus and the name of the father of the center of
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  the holy spirit, amen.
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  The angel of the Lord declared into Mary and she conceded with the holy spirit,
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  hail Mary full of grace. The Lord is with the blessed,
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  our thou amongst women and blessed it as the fruit of I womb Jesus,
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  holy Mary mother of God. Pray for us sinners now. And at the hour of our death,
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  amen. Behold, the hand of the Lord, be it done into me. According to the I word,
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  hail Mary full of grace.
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  The Lord is with the blessed at art thou amongst women and blessed it as the
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  fruit of th wo Jesus, holy Mary mother of God.
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  Pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
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  And the word was made flesh and DILT among us hail Mary full of grace.
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  The Lord is with the blessed at Artha amongst women and blessed.
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  It is the fruit of th wo Jesus, holy Mary mother of God.
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  Pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death, amen.
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  Pray for us a holy mother of God,
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  that we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
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  Let us pray poor forth would be speeched to the oh Lord,
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  that grace into our hearts that we, to whom the incarnation of Christ,
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  that son was made known by the message of an angel made by his passion in
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  Christ. Be brought to the glory of his resurrection through the same Christ,
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  our Lord, amen, St. Michael, the Ark angel defend us in battle,
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  be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil made God
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  rebuke.
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  And we humbly pray and do thou prince of the heavenly host by the power of God,
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  cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl around the world,
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  seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.
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  And with the father under the son of the holy spirit, amen. Well folks,
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  you know, a big commotion, a lot of talk about this, you know, actor Shilah,
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  both well known actor. I always thought he was a great actor. Uh,
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  the movies I saw, uh, that he came out in, he was very convincing in his roles,
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  but I know that there was a lot of turmoil going on with him in Hollywood.
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  There were, uh, episodes where it seemed like he was not doing well.
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  I don't know all the inner workings of Hollywood.
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  So I can't tell you what was going on, who he needed to talk to,
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  not talk to if he upset somebody or not. I don't follow the tabloids that much,
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  but I remember that he got to a point at one, uh,
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  one time that I saw a few years back, there was an award show or something is,
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  you know, Hollywood always does. Uh,
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  and he showed up to the award show and I believe he had a paper bag on his head
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  and on it, he wrote, I used to be famous.
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  And so the question is who was the man behind this paper bag?
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  And at that point I realized when I saw that I had found out later that it was
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  him who had shown up that way. Um,
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  it didn't make me think a lot of people thought, oh, he's washed up.
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  He's a bad actor or something along those lines,
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  but I just thought something's going on. You know, is this a publicity stunt?
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  What is what's going on with him? Um,
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  the important thing to consider is that there,
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  if we hear his story and we're gonna read a little bit about what he says in,
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  in some of his interviews, uh,
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  if anybody saw he had an interview with Bishop Barron, uh, great interview, uh,
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  and it was just very honest, a very honest interview,
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  but what I did notice about him was that everything that he talked about and
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  everything he was, he was describing in terms of his experience, uh,
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  of turning Catholic now,
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  because he was offered this role to portray by the Debo,
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  which is obviously is a huge Saint for us as Catholics, who, uh,
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  a lot of people looked at him as an ultimate mystic had the stigma, but for,
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  uh, HIL above to be called to this role,
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  it really reminds us at a certain point for us as Catholics,
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  there are no coincidences. There are no coincidences.
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  And why do I say this in terms of, well,
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  we gotta talk about this in light of what it means to be a lukewarm Catholic,
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  because God chooses us based on our passion.
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  And God wants us to have passion one way or another. So let's start with that.
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  I'm gonna look at the Bible here. This is the book of revelation. Okay.
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  Chapter three. And we're gonna look at starting in verse 14, uh,
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  we're gonna go 14 to 22. We're gonna read this.
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  This is gonna be important in understanding why it is that we are fascinated
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  when somebody, uh, say hits rock bottom, as we say,
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  or seems appears to lose everything in the eyes of the public.
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  And yet they come back and they tell you, no, you know what?
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  When I was losing everything, I actually had everything.
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  And that's when I saw it. I couldn't see that everything was there before.
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  Cause I was chasing the wrong things.
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  The problem is when we're lukewarm Catholics, this is what Christ tells us.
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  And this is sad. He says, I know your works.
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  You are neither hot or cold would that you were cold or hot.
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  So because you are Luke warm and either cold or hot,
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  I will spew you outta my mouth for you say, I am rich.
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  I have prospered. And I need nothing. Not knowing that you are wretched,
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  pitiable, poor, blind, and naked.
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  Therefore I counsel you to buy for me, gold refined by fire,
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  that you may be rich and white garments to clothe you and to keep the shame of
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  your nakedness from being seen and solve to anoint your eyes,
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  that you may see those whom I love, I reprove and chase them.
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  So be zealous and repent. Behold, I stand at the door and knock.
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  If anyone hears my voice and opens the door,
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  I will come into him and eat with him. And he, with me,
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  he who conquers.
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  I will grant him to sit with me on my throne as I,
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  myself conquered and sat down with my father on his throne.
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  He who has an ear. Let him here with his spirit, says to the churches,
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  again, this is very powerful. And this,
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  this should really kind of wake us up and give us a wake up call. Um,
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  because as Catholics, I gotta ask myself before anything else.
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  And before we get into any stories, where am I in my Catholic faith? Am I,
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  you know, we go through Hills and valleys. We say, and that's a good thing.
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  The hill, the Hills, obviously we're on top of the hill.
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  We're feeling so faithful. We're feeling, feeling so enrich in our faith.
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  We want to pray more. We want to go to mass.
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  We wanna be there and receive the Eucharist.
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  And we're at the peak and we feel so great. That's wonderful. We hit the valley.
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  We feel dry. We feel angry. We feel like God left us. And,
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  and we feel we have no recourse. And we wonder, where are you? God,
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  I feel empty. That's actually a good thing. It's not necessarily bad.
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  Why it doesn't feel good,
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  but it's a good thing in the sense that there is still some passion there,
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  that there is still some desire for God that we still want to want God,
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  because we are saddened by his absence. And maybe in that absence, we decide,
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  you know what? Forget it, God, it seems like you're not here. I'm gonna go sin.
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  I don't care. What's what difference does it make? You don't care about my life?
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  You don't care about me. I'm just gonna take off. Why not? Because it's,
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  it's not like you're looking on my shoulder anymore. Guess what?
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  In the midst of all that sin,
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  there is still some passion because it's a rebellious and it's a rebellion
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  against God. Not that the sin is good. Okay.
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  I don't want any of our listeners to email me later and say, Dr.
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  Sandwell you said it was good to send. No.
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  What I'm saying is that the goodness is that the passion still exists because
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  God can work with that.
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  But if we fall into what we see a lot in our modern
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  day society where it's like, eh, you know, I really don't care if there's a God,
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  not a God, I don't care. Doesn't make a difference to me.
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  If Jesus is the true Lord and the king of Kings.
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  And if the Eucharist really is the body and blood of Christ, well,
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  I'm not gonna tell you. It's not, I'm not gonna tell you it is.
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  I'm just gonna say, I'm not gonna look into it. What does Jesus say about that?
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  Let's read this again. He says so because you are Luke warm.
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  That's what it means to be look warm. Really?
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  It means that I don't care either way. I'm not hot. I'm not cold.
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  I don't have any fire. I'm not white hot. And I'm not hot with fire either.
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  It's just kind of just there. God is just maybe there, but doesn't matter to me.
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  I don't care. Uh, this is what he says.
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  So because you are lukewarm and neither cold or hot,
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  I will spew you out of my mouth. What do we spew out of our mouth?
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  Something that's disgusting. Something that's spoiled,
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  rotten something I don't want to put in my mouth because it's bad.
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  Spew just needs to spit it out without even thinking twice about it.
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  Throw it in the trash. It's no good. It's almost when,
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  like when you eat a rotten piece of fruit, you didn't know it was rotten.
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  It might look good on the outside.
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  You take a bite and you realize the taste is just awful. It's off.
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  You get that in your mouth. Boy. You're just gonna spit that out.
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  And you're gonna think, I never wanna taste that again. And in fact,
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  I'm gonna keep spitting to make sure every little last piece is gone. Why,
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  why does a Luke warmness really hurt our Lord? He says, because for you say,
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  I am rich. I have prospered. And I need nothing.
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  Not knowing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked.
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  Why is that? Because we get comfortable. That's really what that means.
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  All of a sudden we seek out these worldly goods and we say, Hey,
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  I'm doing pretty good financially. I'm comfortable. I, I drive the car. I want,
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  I have the house I want, in fact, I can get more things and I'm very,
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  very comfortable. I don't need to seek out God anymore. I'm all good.
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  Whether there's a God or not. It doesn't matter because I'm here. That's fine.
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  And Jesus is saying, actually the truth is you're wretched, pitiable,
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  poor, blind, and naked. I would dare say that out of all of those,
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  the most important, uh, uh, descriptive there, it's not the wretched,
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  the pitiable, the poor or the naked.
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  I would say it's the blind because you are all these things,
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  but you can't see it. And that's when he goes on to say,
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  and I hope this happens to all of a, at some point,
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  I know it's happened to me in my life.
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  He says those whom I love I reprove and chase them. So be zealous and repent.
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  I think that part's really important because all of a sudden,
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  if we are just Luke warm and we're hanging out and we're saying, you know what,
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  eh, whether it's a God or not, doesn't really matter. Whether it's, you know,
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  heaven, hell doesn't really matter to me. That doesn't matter. Who cares.
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  If there's not turmoil in our lives,
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  it probably tells me that God's gonna say the same thing. He's gonna say, okay,
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  well, you don't care. Why should I care about you? Should I care about you?
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  This is the important part about being passionate. And this is why it's easy.
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  I think as we try to follow the faith, as we really say, you know what?
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  I thank God. I'm not Luke warm. I go through the Hills and the valleys.
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  And when I'm on a hill, boy,
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  I really enjoy that because I feel like I'm in good with God.
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  When I'm in a valley, I feel like I'm still trying to seek God.
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  And I still have that passion for God.
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  But one of the challenges that happens is if we stay on that hill,
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  if we're just roaming that hill, if we're up on top,
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  if we're at the peak and we never come down,
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  it's very easy to look down on other people.
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  Instead of realizing that I was once down and I need to help people come up this
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  mountain, that can be really, really challenging.
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  And this is where the Luke warmness can't work with it all.
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  When we're on the hill, we're passionate about God,
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  but we run the risk of looking down on people and something in the realm of
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  Hollywood and actors. This is where I, I gotta say,
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  it's hard not to judge sometimes because you,
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  we look at people in Hollywood and we say, how could you do that?
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  You're headed your whole life ahead of you. You've got everything.
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  You've got money. You've got fame. Isn't that everything you wanted.
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  And yet you're still not happy what what's going on,
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  or you're you're into drugs and womanizing and things of that nature.
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  What's wrong with you. It's easy to judge,
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  but we gotta remember at some point we're gonna be there too.
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  We're gonna be challenged. And we're, it's easy for us to fall.
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  So as we're in that hill and we find that passion,
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  we gotta look down and bring those people who are not yet passionate,
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  help them come up to our end of things. And we're gonna see the house,
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  how that happened to Shire books when we come back from the break.
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  Wow.
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  All right. Well, welcome back to Virgin. Most powerful radio as always.
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  It is a pleasure to be here with our listeners. You are listening to the Dr.
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  Lu hand of all show. And here at the clinic today,
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  we were talking about some important topics. Now,
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  the main topic that we're talking about is the conversion story.
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  Shall we say that sh buff, the actor in Hollywood has shared with us last week.
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  It was a very, very powerful story.
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  I kind of want to go through it a little bit, uh, for our listeners.
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  I think it's helpful.
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  And I think that when we hear stories like this of somebody famous, who says,
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  you know, I found the truth and it was in the Catholic church.
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  If nothing else that should revive our hearts to remember what we already have.
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  Um, it's easy to forget.
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  And then I think that the reason that we can become Luke warm or we can become
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  very comfortable in our faith is because it's like I share with people.
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  You know,
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  if you live near an amazing place or let's pretend that you were to live in
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  Disneyland,
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  and that was your home and you woke up there every day and you walked around the
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  park and you could ride the rides at any time and you could, you know,
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  taste the food there at any time and live the experience of Disneyland every
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  single day. I think after a while, it's easy to get jaded,
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  even though it is a destination of vacation destination for so many people who
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  want to go there, who are willing to spend tons of money to go there, uh,
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  airplane trip, hotel,
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  and really milk everything that Disneyland has to offer for them,
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  because they've never been there before.
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  And in such a world renowned park versus a person who's already living there
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  says, yeah, it's, it's kind of cool, but sometimes it's easy to get Luke warm,
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  but then you see somebody who hasn't been there,
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  who's willing to spend all this money to go there.
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  Who's willing to make a whole actual trip of it.
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  And you start to see the park through their eyes again.
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  And it starts to remind you, yeah, this is a powerful place.
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  I forgot how powerful this was. Why cuz it was always there.
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  And I think that can happen to us as Catholics, anytime where we say, gosh,
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  you know, I go to church. Yeah, of course. I go to mess on Sundays. Yeah,
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  of course. I, I uh, um, can go receive the Eucharist. Yeah.
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  I go pray in front of the blessed sacrament, big deal, right?
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  Doesn't mean much to me anymore. I've lost that fervor. That sense of, wow,
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  there is something mystical happening here and I realized more than anything
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  else. I mean,
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  I could easily say that happened to me where I realized that that could be going
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  on in my life or was going on in my life at some time.
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  And I didn't realize it until the COVID quarantine.
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  When all a sudden everything shut down, the churches shut down.
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  We didn't always have access to the sacraments. Whoa, that was eyeopening. Wait,
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  I need that. I forgot how important that was. I think.
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  Or shall I say I didn't appreciate it after a while, until it was gone,
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  that was like a rock bottom for a lot of us Catholic spiritually speaking,
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  saying, whoa, wait, what just happened? And it made me think,
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  do I appreciate what I already have?
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  Sometimes it takes that it takes Christ hiding from us, so to speak, uh,
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  whether it be due a quarantine and the churches shut down and all of a sudden
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  there's no access to the sacraments, to the Eucharist.
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  That can be very eyeopening for a lot of people and say, whoa, it's like,
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  God has hidden from me or has take, has been taken away from me. Where's God,
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  what am I gonna do? Now? I feel an emptiness that was very,
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  very real and powerful. That can happen to us.
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  The other thing that can happen though,
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  is sometimes we start getting into this life of sin because we feel that there's
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  meaningless or life is meaningless or we don't appreciate what's going on around
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  us anymore. Just the ability or the fact that we exist.
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  Sometimes we can't even appreciate that. And we hit what we call rock bottom.
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  We're not living a life that would be pleasing to God. And what does God do?
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  He comes down and as he told us in the book of revelation,
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  he will punish us and chasing us. Why? Because he loves us. It's an irony.
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  It's an irony that we don't always understand.
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  God gives us punishment because he loves us. We see it as punishment.
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  He sees it as, let me open your eyes.
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  But there was this article that I saw here. I mean,
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  there's a lot articles right now. If you look online, uh,
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  but this one in particular caught my eye because why?
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  One of the things that I really appreciated about HIL Lebo is that he was honest
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  while being respectful, uh, to other people of what his,
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  what he experienced of his sins. He was very honest about it.
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  He was very candid. He just bore his heart out. And,
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  but he was respectful of other people who didn't name names.
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  He didn't go into detail about what he did. He just like everybody else.
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  Heck I'm a sinner. We're all sinners. I can't blame him.
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  I can't judge him because it's his personal relationship with Christ right now
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  that he is wrestling with, which is something that reminds me is we,
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  we all need to be doing.
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  If we're not wrestling with that relationship with Christ,
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  we gotta ask ourselves, are we lukewarm?
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  We can wrestle it when things are going well.
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  And all of a sudden things are going well, we think, ah, I, I can handle sin.
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  I can do something. Why not just one time.
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  It's kinda like people who are alcoholic and say, I can have one more drink.
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  Right? That's okay. Now I think I can control it. Sometimes. We're like that.
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  I think I can control, you know, the sentence just in a little bit. It's okay.
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  It's not bad because I'm just gonna do it one time that can happen.
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  That's easily easy, easily happening, uh,
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  to people because that's the way our human nature is.
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  That's the way our lives work bullet through this article, listen to this title.
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  So shilov says he has cheated on every woman he has ever been with. Now,
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  obviously an eye catching, uh, title, very powerful statement.
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  He's cheated on every woman he's been with.
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  But what it doesn't tell you is let's see what the story goes.
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  What goes on with the story. So we know this information. So what,
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  what does that mean? Does that mean that he's happy to stay in?
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  That is quotes him saying I was a pleasure seeking selfish.
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  Self-centered dishonest, inconsiderate, fearful human being. He said,
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  Hey, I'm right there with you, buddy. I've been there. I can, all those things.
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  I can't sit here and judge him when I know that my human nature and all of our
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  human natures drive us into being selfish and self-centered and all these things
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  go through this article a little bit.
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  So HIL above gave a candid two hour interview about the abuse allegations that
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  have been made against him,
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  admitting that he has been unfaithful to every woman he has been with in
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  December, 2020 HIL Lobo's ex-girlfriend, uh, sued him for relentless abuse,
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  including battery assault, infliction of emotional distress,
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  sexual battery Lauff later denied causing his ex-girlfriend any injuries or loss
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  saying that she was not entitled to any relief or damages whatsoever.
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  That's what he had said in that interview a couple years back.
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  But then in the new interview, uh,
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  he was interviewed with a friend of his and he, this is what, what, uh,
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  Lebo says. Lebo said, I'm gonna clean up a little bit.
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  Cuz he used some four letter words in strong language, but he said,
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  I messed up real bad, like crash and burn type stuff.
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  I heard a lot of people and I'm fully aware of that.
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  And I'm going to owe for the rest of my life.
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  You know what child above had there. He had a moment of metanoia.
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  He had a moment where he had, he was able to,
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  God gave him the gift to be able to see his sins and it was
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  ugly. And he realized what he realized there.
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  I'm going to owe the rest of my life. We all should feel that way about any sin.
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  We've committed. Why? Cuz we've gotta remember that. Anything we've committed,
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  the price is eternal damnation. I gotta owe as so long as I'm here on earth.
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  I gotta keep paying back for that.
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  Yes it is forgiven in the confessional and yes we could say, well, Dr. Sandoval,
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  but I did a, a plenary indulgence. So everything should be gone,
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  but I still wanna make up for that in the eyes of God. Why?
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  Because when I die here, if I go to purgatory, okay, fine. I'm gonna keep,
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  you know, Purg there and I'm gonna keep making it up for there,
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  but I wanna get straight to heaven. I don't want to keep sending it.
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  I wanna make sure that any sin I've committed before gets cleaned up entirely.
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  That's what he say. He said,
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  I had a long list of people that I need to make amends to admitting that he has
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  cheated on every woman who's ever been with and never told his partners about
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  getting cold tours, which he acknowledged was manipulative. It's a real,
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  you know, we can look at that and we can say what a jerk.
• 19:17
  He was totally manipulative. I don't wanna judge him that way. I,
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  I gotta say that's a real moment of honesty right there to be able to say, Hey,
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  you know what? I think I did this, I messed up. I did this.
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  And I realize I was manipulative. You know, I,
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  I remember going to confession one time confessing, something like that,
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  where I think, you know what father, I think I was manipulative. Um,
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  and I felt like the biggest scum of the earth. And I just thought, this is,
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  this is the truth.
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  I think I was in a situation where I maybe I manipulated people. I,
• 19:44
  I did things to get my own way. And you know what the priest said to me,
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  I was waiting for him to say, boy, you're, you're just wretched. You're awful.
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  He said, what a beautiful confession. And I started crying like a baby.
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  That's all I remember happening. Why?
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  Because it was this moment where my heart was just ripped out.
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  And it was just a moment of honesty. And I would dare say Shiloh, both.
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  That's kind of what he experienced. It's so, so beautiful. If you,
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  if you see the interview he had with Bishop Barron,
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  you can tell that he's a man whose heart is turning to Christ and he's yearning
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  for more of Christ and Christ will do that to us.
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  When we're honest with ourselves,
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  when we recognize and realize I've been retched,
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  Christ is gonna take that and he's gonna say, well,
• 20:20
  come on and let's get better. And that healing process, it's gonna be painful,
• 20:24
  but boy, it's gonna be worth it. He goes on to say, I hurt that woman.
• 20:27
  And then the process of doing it, he's talking about next girlfriend.
• 20:29
  I hurt many other people and many other people before that woman,
• 20:33
  I was a pleasure seeking. We read this part before. Pleasure seeking selfish.
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  Self-centered dishonest, inconsiderate, fearful human being.
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  When I think about what my life has become and what it is now,
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  like what my purpose is now I need to be useful.
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  And when I look at this, me too movement,
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  there's not a whole lot of dudes that are taking accountability.
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  So he's admitting that he's in a place where he wants to be useful.
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  And what does that mean? I think that out of everything,
• 20:58
  that's the most important part. I want to be useful.
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  I think at that point for us as Catholics, when we look at that,
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  I want to be useful. It's really a moment of saying,
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  I want to do what my intended purpose is here.
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  And that intended purpose is whatever mission God gave me.
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  I want to start the mission that God gave me. I want to lean my life.
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  I want to lead my life. I want to walk down that path that God made me.
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  And that's how I know that I'm a useful human being.
• 21:24
  How many times did we go through life?
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  Feeling like I'm no good or I'm good for nothing or I am not useful. What,
• 21:29
  why am I even here?
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  And we forget that there's that moment that Christ is trying to reach out.
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  And he's the one beating our hearts and he's saying, stay alive.
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  I need you for something. Look at what's going on.
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  We think that our hearts beat just, you know, out of the blue,
• 21:41
  well kind of they do, you know, there's a sign on atrial node.
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  The hearts just beating on its own. There's nothing.
• 21:47
  Where does the beat come from? He really has.
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  It has a center there where it just kind of starts on its own.
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  That's where God lives in our hearts. God is the one leading that beat.
• 21:55
  So anyway,
• 21:56
  he goes on to say that when his accuser first made allegations of him,
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  he wanted to hit Twitter. And he says,
• 22:02
  I wanted to hit tweet Twitter and be like, look, I got receipts.
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  But then he realized that his accuser is a Saint and saved my life.
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  He goes on to say that his accuser saved my life. Why he says,
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  had she not intervened in my life and not created the avenue for me to
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  experience ego death,
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  I'd either have a real mediocre existence or I'd be dead and full notice.
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  He didn't say he'd have passion one way or the other.
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  He didn't say he have hatred. He, he said,
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  he'd be dead in full or have a mediocre existence.
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  That's not Luke Warren part mediocre existence, no big deal.
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  But what did he experience that he says, thank you to her for, or he's saying,
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  he didn't say thank you directly.
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  But he's saying if she had not intervened in my life,
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  it had not created an avenue for me to experience ego death.
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  I think that that's where we all gotta stand. I gotta let go of my ego.
• 22:50
  If I hear about somebody else's sins, I better not start judging. You know,
• 22:53
  this is where it's a problem. If,
• 22:54
  if anybody tries to listen in on somebody's confession, that's a problem.
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  That's a big sin. Why?
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  Because that confession that moment where we acknowledge it,
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  that's my relationship with Christ. I can't judge your relationship with Christ.
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  And here he has the courage to share this with everybody and say,
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  this is where I was at. You know what this says to me, this is a St Paul moment.
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  He was knocked off that horse, whatever he was doing,
• 23:16
  whatever he thought was gonna be, right? Whatever. He thought, wherever,
• 23:19
  whatever direction he thought his life was going in.
• 23:21
  All of a sudden Christ knocked him off that horse. And he said,
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  I want you to get to know me. St. Paul never looked back. Shabo on a,
• 23:27
  on a great path here. This is what he said.
• 23:30
  He said that in the tribe of mess up, I'm gonna change a little bit.
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  I'm a very public center and a very fallible person in the public sphere.
• 23:38
  What I think now my purpose is,
• 23:40
  is not to do the other examples that we've had of how to navigate something like
• 23:45
  this, which is go after the woman or try to win a court case or get back at,
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  or get back into a movie or get back on it at all.
• 23:54
  He talked about a seeming support group that he's been in. Uh,
• 23:58
  he said a squad of 60 guys.
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  Who've met every day on zoom at six and they go on bike rides on Thursdays and
• 24:04
  hang out at the beach on Sundays. So he's now finding a support group.
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  Notice he's saying now, I don't think that I need to take revenge on anybody.
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  That's not my job. That's not where my life's path is. Notice at St. Paul.
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  They didn't say, well,
• 24:15
  now I gotta get back at people or anything along those lines. He said, no,
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  I have a different path. My different path now is I need to follow Christ.
• 24:23
  In fact,
• 24:23
  I need to let go of everything so much that I don't even have a will of my own.
• 24:28
  My my will is Christ's will. That's all it is.
• 24:33
  So what does he go on to say? Um,
• 24:36
  he talked about going to rehab and now he's raising, he has a daughter, uh,
• 24:40
  with his wi and he's trying to raise her with his wife. Um, and he said,
• 24:45
  this has altered his outlook.
• 24:47
  He also said that he's part of a support system promoting interviews on
• 24:51
  Instagram. He said, please join me for a conversation with my friend shy.
• 24:53
  So this is a little bit different, uh, where this is what they discussed, guilt,
• 24:57
  Shane making amends friendship, and so much more. He said,
• 25:00
  I asked you to come with eyes open in an open heart, uh,
• 25:03
  because that's really shy the best story he is sharing, um, that,
• 25:07
  you know, at the end of the day,
• 25:09
  he's in a place where his heart is ready to be open.
• 25:12
  And he's asking you to be open about his story as well.
• 25:15
  He's opening up his heart. He's saying,
• 25:17
  why don't you guys open up your hearts too? This is important.
• 25:20
  I'm gonna share my story. Why? Because it's important.
• 25:23
  Cause I'm no longer blue form and I'm no longer down in the dump crisis taking
• 25:27
  me more after the break.
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  All right, folks. Welcome back to Virgin. Mouth's powerful radio today.
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  You are listening to the Dr.
• 25:38
  Louis Sandoval show and as always it as a pleasure to be here with you today,
• 25:43
  we're talking about really more than anything else. I mean,
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  we're talking about the child bus story, where he shares his conversion, uh,
• 25:50
  his internal conversion, uh,
• 25:52
  to the Catholic faith as he is portraying Padre PIO and the upcoming film of
• 25:55
  Padre PIO more than anything else. I think it's really all of our stories.
• 25:59
  I think we gotta remember that. Any conversion story we like to hear about it,
• 26:03
  obviously,
• 26:03
  if it's somebody who's high profile and puts the Catholic faith in a good light
• 26:07
  and actually acknowledges that it is the truth. And at the end of the day,
• 26:10
  nothing else matters. We have to remember that this is our story. It's great.
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  When it's a public figure,
• 26:15
  gets out to a lot of different people and it gets the conversation, uh,
• 26:19
  going and people understand what it means to be Catholic.
• 26:21
  Maybe we educate the public a little bit more and people are more interested in
• 26:25
  finding out, Hey, what are these Catholics all about?
• 26:28
  Because there is a lot of misinformation out there.
• 26:29
  A lot of people think that they know the Catholic faith or try to tell us what
• 26:33
  we do. And in reality, it's not what's going on. You know?
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  So it's always nice to hear that from a high profile person who understands the
• 26:40
  faith deeply, but if nothing else for us, us, I gotta,
• 26:43
  this is really our conversion story, you know, for everybody,
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  because if we go back, I mentioned St. Paul earlier in the show,
• 26:51
  we go back to St. Paul. The important part is, you know,
• 26:54
  we hear about the conversion and how they turn to Christ,
• 26:56
  whether it be HIL above St Paul or any of us. But in the article we read before,
• 27:01
  it was really heavily focused on child above admitting his sins. And St.
• 27:06
  Paul did no different. He admitted his sins. We know that St.
• 27:09
  Paul was persecuting the church. He was killing Christians.
• 27:12
  And this man who was 100% against Christ, Christ appears to him and says,
• 27:16
  why are you persecuting me? When you persecute Christians? You persecute me.
• 27:20
  When you persecute the church, you persecute me.
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  The important part is to see that as deep,
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  heavy CR and red, evil, mortal,
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  whatever we want to call the sins, uh, that people are sharing as,
• 27:34
  as bad as they are. There's nothing that Christ can't work with.
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  As long as we have a level of passion of passion for Christ passion,
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  one way or another,
• 27:43
  if you out are out there and you feel like you're struggling,
• 27:45
  you feel like nothing's going well, you feel like you need to change your life.
• 27:49
  And you don't know how my advice is. Go in front of the tabernacle.
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  Just go sit in front of the tabernacle for half an hour, an hour, 10 minutes,
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  two minutes,
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  just give a little bit of time to Christ and see what he can do with it.
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  Because to say like, my life is so bad, Christ can't do anything with it.
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  This is where I think we find the inspirations for these stories.
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  There's people shy. LIBO said his life was at the rock bottom.
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  He had nothing left. He took on this role of this movie, just hooping.
• 28:14
  He didn't care about Potter PI or anything along those lines.
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  What he thought was this movie might just jumpstart my career.
• 28:20
  So I can just kind of get back into Hollywood.
• 28:21
  I thought he felt like he was outta the scene, but he saying, Nope,
• 28:25
  I'm just taking this. And I'm hoping that it'll, it'll do something maybe in a,
• 28:28
  in a flurry of passion for his heart. He wanted to get back into something.
• 28:32
  And God used that in the same way. We feel disheartened.
• 28:35
  If we feel like our lives are all over the place, like there's no passion,
• 28:39
  God is gonna use that. God is gonna take our hearts.
• 28:41
  He's gonna take a moment and say, come on this way, I'll take you by the hand.
• 28:44
  It's gonna be rough. It's gonna be a rough road,
• 28:46
  but we're gonna walk outta there.
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  And you're gonna see that you actually already have everything you could have
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  possibly wanted. You it's already there.
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  You just don't see it in order for you to see it though.
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  I gotta get rid of all the distractions. I gotta get rid of your social media.
• 28:59
  I gotta get rid of your phones. People are gonna talk,
• 29:01
  talk bad about you on social media. That way you can turn it off.
• 29:04
  That's the whole purpose of that. You know, there's,
• 29:06
  there's not about you being a bad person. It's about,
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  I need you to turn that off. And if that's what it's gonna take,
• 29:10
  then heck that's what it's gonna take. It's gonna be turned off. You know,
• 29:13
  God works in different ways in our lives to say, oh, you hit rock bottom. Well,
• 29:17
  good. Now you see that I am here and I am all you need, but let's look at this.
• 29:21
  So the last article we read was about HIL bus confessions,
• 29:24
  and about him really admitting some heavy dark parts of his life.
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  The next article is this article is from national Catholic register.
• 29:31
  It's a great article.
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  And now it talks more about his interview with Bishop Baron and his interview
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  with Bishop Baron. If anybody's heard,
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  it is a very powerful interview because he talks about a lot of very
• 29:42
  fundamental Catholic things that are controversial to some people that some
• 29:47
  people, uh, might make fun of. And he talked about how in these Catholic, uh,
• 29:52
  practices and rituals, that's where he really found meaning in his life.
• 29:55
  Let's look at this article here. So he talked to Bishop Barron.
• 29:58
  He talked about his devotion to the traditional Latin mass.
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  He talked about peace when he feels he praises the rosary and experience his
• 30:06
  experience. When he receives the Eucharist for the first time,
• 30:08
  this is what he said. When he experiences the Eucharist,
• 30:11
  when he received the Eucharist for the first time, he said,
• 30:14
  I start feeling a physical effect from it, right there. I'll stop right there.
• 30:19
  How many times do we remember that? Christ wants to heal us physically.
• 30:22
  We know it, but we don't believe it. You know, we know it appear,
• 30:25
  but we don't in here. We gotta feel that in our hearts,
• 30:28
  we read the gospels and we think that these are stories of old. You know,
• 30:31
  he healed the blind man. He healed the Leos and we think, yeah,
• 30:34
  that that's what happened back then.
• 30:35
  But where's our faith about that can happen. Now, boy,
• 30:38
  I have a diagnosis of cancer. I have a diagnosis of diabetes.
• 30:41
  I have a di and Jesus can cure that. I truly believe he can cure that. I gotta,
• 30:45
  but what I gotta do, I gotta let go of everything.
• 30:48
  I kind of gotta go spiritual rock bottom.
• 30:50
  I gotta not think or see things the way I think they are.
• 30:53
  And just let everything go and let myself see things as Christ sees them
• 30:58
  as Christ to let me see them that way.
• 31:00
  This is really what C buffet is saying here.
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  He started to feel a physical effect and people are gonna think, well, what,
• 31:05
  he's gonna have a seizure? What, what do you mean physical effect?
• 31:07
  We gotta remember. Crisis is working on our bodies and side, the bus,
• 31:10
  talking about drinking too much about not doing good things with his body.
• 31:13
  The Eucharist is starting to heal that right? Starting to heal that he said,
• 31:17
  I start to feel a reprieve and it starts feeling like regenerative
• 31:22
  what's regenerative.
• 31:24
  It means that when something's broken or something's falls off, it grows back.
• 31:28
  It comes back. We say that the liver is our only organ that regenerates itself,
• 31:32
  part of it's gone. And part of it dead, it can grow back to a new,
• 31:35
  healthy tissue where regenerative in this case would be.
• 31:37
  Imagine of all of a sudden you've lost your hand or something in combat and a
• 31:41
  new one grows back. You just regenerate a hand,
• 31:43
  but he's talking about that spiritually with the Eucharist,
• 31:46
  it starts to feel regenerative is the word he used.
• 31:49
  He starts enjoying to such a degree. He doesn't ever want to miss it.
• 31:53
  This is important. How many times do we take the Eucharist for granted? Ah,
• 31:56
  you know, gosh, I think I might have I mortal sin.
• 31:59
  I'm not gonna go receive the Eucharist. I gotta go to confession. Okay. Well,
• 32:02
  confession time comes around. Ah, I couldn't make it to confession today.
• 32:05
  I just another week. Oh, well we forget what the Eucharist really is.
• 32:09
  The power of the Eucharist and why we need it. There there's nothing.
• 32:12
  There's nothing greater for us, but are we ready to receive it?
• 32:15
  Expecting to feel even a physical effect from it and maybe something
• 32:19
  regenerative? Are we at that point? I think that we, we should be.
• 32:23
  I think this is a great reminder of that. This is what he says. Um,
• 32:28
  let me see here really quickly.
• 32:33
  So there's a story about him.
• 32:34
  So he's 36 and he said he was agnostic before finding God, although he was,
• 32:39
  you know, partially Jewish too.
• 32:40
  I believe it was from his mom's said he made a bar mitzvah at when he was 13
• 32:44
  year old boy, but he never fully embraced his mother's.
• 32:46
  He was mother's mother's Jewish. Faith is what he told Bishop Barron.
• 32:50
  And despite his successes as an actor, his life was in turmoil. Okay.
• 32:55
  So life was in Turmo kind like my cat behind me there, um,
• 32:59
  in trouble with the law multiple times currently he faces, uh,
• 33:04
  lawsuits filed by his ex-girlfriend accusing him of being abusive.
• 33:08
  He was estranged from his mother because of this downward spiral.
• 33:11
  But what does he tell the Bishop? He says,
• 33:14
  he reached out to the point where he was despaired of living and saying,
• 33:18
  I don't want to be here anymore. So let's look at his life.
• 33:20
  He's at a point where he's got a lot of legal issues.
• 33:22
  He had some success in Hollywood. Sure. I've seen some of his movies are great.
• 33:26
  And in spite of these successes, his life is in turmoil.
• 33:28
  He's in trouble with the law multiple times. He's got lawsuits going on.
• 33:32
  He's estranged from his mom. His life is in a downward spiral.
• 33:36
  Also he reached his point of despair of living and said,
• 33:38
  I don't want to be here anymore. In fact, if you see the article,
• 33:41
  he says that he had a gun in his hand and he was ready to just end it all.
• 33:45
  He was ready to commit, commit suicide right there. He had no,
• 33:47
  no reason for living in his heart. He had no passion.
• 33:51
  So he believes that God used his eagerness and this is where it hot or cold.
• 33:56
  He wasn't Luke warm to resurrect his lagging movie career and put him on a path
• 34:00
  to healing and personal peace, right? There is the most powerful part.
• 34:04
  That last part personal piece, when this healing takes place,
• 34:07
  how many people are truly in peace right now?
• 34:10
  This is where it's important to remember why what's the purpose of our,
• 34:13
  of our Catholic faith. Why get excited about our Catholic faith? Who cares?
• 34:16
  So it's the body of Christ who cares? What's that gonna do? We gotta remember,
• 34:20
  this is our path to peace. This is how we find peace in our lives.
• 34:24
  How many times do people come to counseling to ask me advice? And they tell me,
• 34:28
  gosh, my life is in turmoil. Uh, I've got a lot of anxiety.
• 34:31
  I've got a lot of depression. I need couples counseling because my, my husband,
• 34:34
  he's doing drugs. And then I got into drugs too, or we're not getting along.
• 34:38
  That doesn't even have to be drugs involved. We're just not getting along.
• 34:40
  We don't, I don't even know if we love each other anymore.
• 34:42
  And we're talking about divorce. You know, we have kids involved,
• 34:45
  but we don't even care about that. We're screaming in front of the kids.
• 34:47
  There's all this Turmo in our lives. And I said, do you want peace?
• 34:51
  And a lot of times people think that they have to do all these things.
• 34:53
  They have to go off on this far journey. They have to go and,
• 34:56
  and travel somewhere, uh, of a miraculous nature.
• 34:59
  Maybe where there was a Marion apparition. That's all beautiful.
• 35:01
  Don't get me wrong. I'd love to travel to anywhere. There's a Marion apparition,
• 35:05
  a Catholic shrine, anything, uh, you know, going to, um, CCHO.
• 35:09
  Zoc going to different places where, uh, our lady, uh, has appeared or where,
• 35:14
  uh, um, you know, there's a wonderful statue. That's venerated of our Lord.
• 35:18
  Anything along those lines is very powerful. The journey is very powerful,
• 35:21
  but the journey brings us right back home.
• 35:23
  And if we can't do a big journey like that,
• 35:25
  how are we gonna find personal peace? Well,
• 35:26
  sometimes I counsel people and I tell them, have you received the Eucharist?
• 35:29
  Have you gone to confession and just received the Eucharist?
• 35:32
  And that's not enough for them. They think that's too simple.
• 35:35
  What are you talking? I need to do something huge.
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  I need to go up to the top of the mountain and talk to some guy who's meditate
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  me meditating up there, and he's gonna have the answer for me. I said, no,
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  the answer is just in the Eucharist. The answer's just Jesus. The question is,
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  do we have the eyes of faith to do that? HIL Lebo says, he,
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  this is true faith right here.
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  He believes God uses eagerness to resurrect his lagging moving career and put
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  him on a path of healing and personal peace.
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  Notice all the good things are happening.
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  He wanted to resurrect his movie career and it happened,
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  but it also happened in a pathway to piece.
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  How many times did we try to resurrect our careers or try to be important on a
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  destructive path that can happen as well?
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  He said the turning point was an offer to play the lead. Uh,
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  and this new film Bario, which premieres in Venice next week though,
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  he knew little of anything about the famous Italian Saint or Catholicism in
• 36:22
  general. He leap at the chance because he just wanted this movie career.
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  He had an eagerness. Where's our eagerness. You know, when I think about that,
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  I think about the Eucharist.
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  I think Jesus doesn't want us to receive the Eucharist.
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  He wants us to want to receive the Eucharist. Does that make a difference?
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  Of course, he wants us to receive the Eucharist.
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  He wants us to go receive the Eucharist, but not just go receive the Eucharist.
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  He wants us to want to receive the Eucharist.
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  He wants us to have a desire for the Eucharist.
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  He wants us to have eagerness to receive the Eucharist where I gotta say, Nope,
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  I gotta go receive the Eucharist. Is there a chance to receive the Eucharist?
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  I'm gonna put everything else aside. That's my priority.
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  I think that that's where we allow God to work in our lives.
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  I want nothing else. And in fact, I,
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  maybe everything else was taken away from me or I've chosen to let everything
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  go. Cuz if we notice in the gospels, what does Jesus say to the rich man?
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  He says, sell everything you have and then come follow me.
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  And you're gonna find true riches and peace. And was that enough for him?
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  That's how you're gonna find eternal life. Wasn't enough for him.
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  He went away sad. In this case, shy LIBO says I had to hit rock bottom.
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  So it says, as it turned out, it wasn't his career that God wanted to save.
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  Lebo believes the Franciscan Frys. He meant.
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  So he wanted to go spend time with the Franciscan fryers to prepare for this
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  movie. Um, he spent time with, to prepare for the role,
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  made him increasingly curious about the faith that inspired Padre P.
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  They directed him to the gospel of Matthew and the works of other important
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  Catholic writers, which he deed notice it. Doesn't say he just skimmed through.
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  He devoured. He ate him. It became a part of him. He digested all that.
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  That's the eagerness that we need to have when we're gonna receive the,
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  or on this. When we come back from the break.
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  All right, welcome back to Virgin. Most powerful radio.
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  You are listening to the Dr. Louis Sandoval show.
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  And today we are really talking about our journey as Catholics
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  through the eyes of the actor, Shila buff, if you will,
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  because it's a good reminder to us,
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  how awesome our faith is and how healing it can be. Body, mind, spirit,
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  body, mind, soul. Um, in general,
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  we can't forget that we can't deny that we gotta look at our hearts.
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  We gotta look at our souls and we gotta realize God is working on us.
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  God is working on our bodies. God is working on our minds.
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  God is definitely working on our souls. Jesus is there,
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  but we don't always feel it. And sometimes it can be a little bit distressing.
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  Um, and hearing a story like this from this actor. Uh, boy,
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  it really reminds me that whenever I'm feeling like I'm down low rock bottom,
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  nothing else is good. God is there. Jesus is there. Well,
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  let's go on to look at the rest of this interview.
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  I'm going through reading excerpts from his interview with, uh, Bishop Barron,
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  great interview. You can find it online. If anybody, uh, wants to see it,
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  I'll try to put a link in here. Uh, if anybody wants to, uh, see that video,
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  it is about 80 minutes, 90 minutes long,
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  but it was very powerful and it was very, uh, instructive.
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  And it really more than anything else, he was teaching me about my faith.
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  He was teaching me about the faith because he was helping me to remember a few
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  things like this. I thought this was huge. Let's read this next paragraph here.
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  Um, in the interview,
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  LIBO spoke about his view of Jesus before reading the gospels.
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  Remember he hadn't read the gospels before he went to go spend some time with
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  some Capin monks, some Franciscan monks. And so he could understand the life.
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  So he could play this role of Padre PIO. And they had him the gospel of Matthew.
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  And he said that his view of Jesus before reading the gospels,
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  it was someone who is soft, fragile, all loving, all listening,
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  but with no ferocity, no romance,
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  but what he encountered in the gospels is a very different masculine Christ.
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  And this is true of all of us. A lot of times we forget it.
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  We're not going back to read our gospels. We don't, we don't think, you know,
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  sometimes we think of Jesus as just kind of the soft person. Who's just there.
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  Who's gonna pat you on your back. And, and a lot of times the talk is, oh,
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  he's very merciful. But almost like this weakness where no matter what you do,
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  he's just gonna be weak. I think a lot of times people might think too well,
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  you know, the way he died on the cross, it was a sign of weakness.
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  He never fought back or anything like that. His battle wasn't a physical battle.
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  I think what we don't see here is the, the verocity the, the fire,
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  the passion that Christ has as he's fighting that spiritual battle with us when
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  we're right there fighting Christ is right there next to us with a sword in
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  hand, slashing everything around us.
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  He's got this very masculine power where he's there to defend us and to fight
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  along with us. But we gotta make that effort. We gotta make that fight.
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  And this story I above had to go to this comment. He had to accept this role.
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  He had to make an effort and Christ is all of a sudden gonna fight along with
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  him. He said, okay, you take up your sword. I'm gonna take up mine.
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  Let's do this, but we gotta have that level of faith.
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  Now this is what he also said. This was very powerful too. Made me think.
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  He said that the fryers introduced him to the mass.
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  And he told Bishop Barron that he became especially attracted to the traditional
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  Latin mass.
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  A lot of people don't like to hear that a lot of people like to see the Latin
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  mass go away. Eh, it can't go away. I mean, it's part of our tradition.
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  And if we're, if we're big on nothing else in the Catholic faith it's tradition.
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  Um, but he said, unlike the no Novi, ordo, masses, he attended,
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  he said the old liturgy struck him as being focused on God,
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  more than the congregation.
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  He said that he felt as if someone was sharing a profound secret with him,
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  not selling me a car, referring to the guitar plane.
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  He had experience at another Catholic parish. She attended,
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  this is a discussion that I have a lot of times different with people. Um,
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  you know, people who say, oh, do you prefer the Latin mass?
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  Do you prefer the Nova Soto? Do you prefer, what do you prefer? And I say,
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  I prefer any mass where one there's a valid consecration,
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  okay. Either way. And concentration's valid,
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  but I want that mass to help me focus on that consecration to help me focus
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  on the doors of heaven, opening up and coming down and through the priest words,
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  speaking,
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  commanding the bread and the wine to turn into the body and blood of Christ.
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  I want to be in that moment. I don't wanna be distracted from that moment.
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  I've been to many auto masses where the very quiet, very reverent,
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  the priest you can tell is very much in the moment.
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  And he's praying in the words and he's looking at the Eucharist.
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  He raises the host and it's very quiet in there.
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  There's not a whole lot of music. Quiet, traditional mu beautiful, beautiful.
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  I've been to Latin masses where the same thing happens where the whole focus is
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  quiet. The priest is praying,
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  but sometimes I've been to Latin masses where the priests,
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  I don't know if it's his passion or there's a disconnect between the priests and
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  the people. And what I mean by that is a lot of people are gonna say, well,
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  yeah, the priest has turned around. This is why he is gotta face the people.
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  Now it has nothing to do with that. What I wonder is, is the priest tired?
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  Is he in a different mindset?
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  I say this not to criticize the priest in those moments,
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  but I can tell when I'm being an effective, uh,
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  counselor and effective doctor or not,
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  I can tell if I'm being effective with my patients or not. Am I in the moment?
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  Am I present? Or am I worried by different things? You know,
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  this is where it's important to. I think certain things that'll help with that,
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  or don't go bother father before the mass, let him, let him prepare.
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  Let him focus on what he's gonna do,
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  cuz don't want so many distractions that moment.
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  He doesn't want anybody to think about what's really happening there.
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  He doesn't want anybody to be in awe or, you know,
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  really trying to absorb the mystery of the Eucharist. That's really challenging.
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  But for somebody who's brand new to the faith, boy,
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  they can see things that we can't see because he's saying, okay,
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  I'm learning from this caption monks. I'm learning what the faith is.
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  I'm learning what the Eucharist is. I'm learning what it meant to pad appeal.
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  I'm gonna be distracted. There's guitar playing all this stuff. That's not,
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  that's not my role here. My role is to really focus on the Eucharist.
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  If there's all of a sudden,
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  all this different music or people worried about how they're singing or you
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  know, how they're reading the readings and that com that comes across,
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  it conveys to us, you know, uh, where's the passion in the mass,
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  where of reverence is it about me and how well I appear in front of the people.
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  If I'm a elector, is it about how well did I read that? No,
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  it's about are the people's hearts facing Christ,
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  are our hearts ready to accept Christ? And the Eucharist.
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  That's really what it comes down to.
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  And I think that that's what Shyla both was experiencing here.
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  When we talked about, you know, the guitar playing things like that,
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  I'm sure if he went to a Novis auto mass, which was very respectful, very quiet,
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  he would probably feel, uh, similar to the Latin mass. Uh,
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  but he expressed that he said at the Latin mass offered at the Institute of
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  Christ king in Oakland, California. Uh,
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  he had a strong sense that he had found something. You know, I love that,
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  that he had found something. Why do I love that? Because it,
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  it takes me back to the most basic thing of our Catholic faith.
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  And that is that the kingdom of heaven has something to be found.
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  I always remember that parable.
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  This is what I love about parables Christ reminds us that he is for everybody,
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  not just the learn, but there's that parable where Christ says, you know,
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  a man finds a, a Pearl hidden in a field,
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  a jewel hidden in a field and he sells everything. He has to buy that field.
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  Well, what does that tell me? There's a field that looks like barrenness.
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  It looks like there's nothing there.
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  You gotta go look for something and nobody else is really looking for it.
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  You gotta be able to look for something where,
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  to where it seems like there's nothing there where it seems Barron.
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  It doesn't exist. This is why we've gone to the desert. Now, granted,
• 45:11
  a lot of people will tell you the desert is a place where the demons hung out
• 45:14
  and you're gonna go challenge the demons. But there looks Barron.
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  It tells me that there's some kind of treasure in the desert.
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  It's something to be found in the desert,
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  something to be found on that field that nobody else can see.
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  I can go out there. I'm gonna find something shy above tells us, Hey,
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  I found something like that at the church.
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  I just found something in the middle of mass.
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  I found something that was pretty powerful.
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  So one of the questions that came up is,
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  is he a Catholic? And what does it mean to officially become Catholic? Well,
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  it turned out that he was baptized. He discovered he was baptizing.
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  He was able to receive communion.
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  So he went and received communion and he told Bishop Barron that he felt a
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  reprieve and receiving the Eucharist and decided afterwards that he never wanted
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  to miss mass. Again,
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  he attends mass as much as he can on weekdays and consistently on Sundays,
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  he was in contact with his friend who we made there. It was a brother,
• 46:03
  brother Alexander, and he says,
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  he's always wanting to learn about the Catholic faith. He's hungry for it.
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  He just tasted something that is so delicious to the soul that the soul wants
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  and is hungry for. And for us, I, I speak for myself.
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  It's so easy to take for granted. Am I hungry for it every day? I mean,
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  I love doing this show here. I love speaking about our Catholic faith.
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  I love hanging out with my Catholic brethren. I love, you know,
• 46:25
  everything surrounding ourselves with our Catholic faith.
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  Does that mean I'm perfect far from it?
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  I like surrounding with myself with it because I'm hoping to reach there.
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  I'm still walking up that mountain, but his passion for the mass.
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  I'm a little jealous of that. I wanna get that passion back.
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  It doesn't always happen. I love going to mass, but we get distracted easily,
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  right? Get distracted by things of the world for him. This is believe it or not.
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  Even though he's got all these different things going on legal issues,
• 46:50
  issues with relationships, issues where he's recognizing his sins,
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  the mass is what's very real in that moment. All this other stuff can go away.
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  All this chaos can go away. I just need to focus on the mass.
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  And that's what I want in that moment. That's what my heart is desiring.
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  So that's very important. You know, very, very important.
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  Now a question came up in this article is saying, well,
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  if somebody like HIL Lauff, if he, uh, if he is Catholic, not Catholic,
• 47:13
  what does it take to officially become Catholic?
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  And they went to a Kenon lawyer, father Philip, Michael Tanura.
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  And he is a Ken lawyer and a priest for the diocese of Patterson, New Jersey.
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  And he said that the R C I a program is a usual means for an unbaptized person
• 47:27
  to convert to Catholicism.
• 47:28
  But it's a different matter for those of us who have already been Val validly
• 47:32
  baptized a person who's already baptized is not a convert to the faith,
• 47:36
  but a person who is being brought into full communion with the church and needs
• 47:40
  only that catechesis necessary to profess the faith and prepare them to receive
• 47:44
  the remaining sacraments of initiation confirmation and the E.
• 47:48
  So in other words, somebody like sh above doesn't need to be baptized again.
• 47:51
  He was already baptized. Now. He just needs the catechesis.
• 47:54
  He needs somebody to prepare him for confirmation and the Eucharist.
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  And that's what he was doing with the monks, with the Fris.
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  They were teaching him, they're preparing him, he received communion.
• 48:02
  So if he's already a baptized person, he would also make use of the sacrament,
• 48:06
  penance and preparation for the confirmation and the first Eucharist.
• 48:10
  So to be in full communion with a Catholic church,
• 48:13
  one needs to be in communion with the faith, the sacraments,
• 48:16
  and the Eccles governance of the church, specifically the Pope.
• 48:20
  So that's really what it means. I mean, to be in full communion with the church,
• 48:22
  obviously we need to do our sacraments of initiation, communion, confirmation,
• 48:27
  and baptism baptism obviously is first. Uh,
• 48:31
  and we need to be in communion with the faith. We need to studied our faith.
• 48:34
  So we need to agree to it. And we need to accept that the Pope,
• 48:38
  the magisterium of the church is the governing body of the church.
• 48:42
  We have to convert that in our hearts all the time.
• 48:44
  I know a lot of people like to say, oh, there's no pop.
• 48:46
  Now there's a set of a con there's this there's that? No, the Pope is a Pope.
• 48:49
  You know, Jesus wouldn't leave us without a Pope. And then the,
• 48:52
  and this is what's so, um, powerful about everything.
• 48:56
  A Pope says everything he does,
• 48:57
  we have to believe that they gotta take that into consideration.
• 49:01
  Because at that point they're no longer representing themselves.
• 49:03
  They're always gonna be representing Christ,
• 49:05
  which is why it's so hurtful to the body of Christ.
• 49:07
  If there is a Pope who says things that go against the teachings to the
• 49:11
  magisterium or leaves a lot of doubt, um,
• 49:13
  because the Pope is supposed to be that final word where Christ never left out.
• 49:17
  He said, let your yes. Be yes. And your no, be no.
• 49:19
  Everything else is of the double. You know,
• 49:21
  I'm suffer from that all times where sometimes there's a lot of maybes in my
• 49:24
  life, but you gotta be a little bit more. Yes and no. From the Pope,
• 49:27
  we need to realize that that's what we're looking for. We're looking for that.
• 49:30
  Yes or no, because that's his role. Now, all this in mind,
• 49:35
  one of the questions was can LaBuff valley receive communion?
• 49:39
  And this is where this priest, who's a can lawyer say,
• 49:41
  he's not familiar with his background if he's already baptized,
• 49:44
  but not confirmed and has not received his first Eucharist.
• 49:47
  Then he went to go through the catechetical instruction to prepare himself for
• 49:50
  these sacraments.
• 49:51
  If he's already a Catholic and had fallen away for a period of time.
• 49:54
  And this is where I think this is what's important.
• 49:56
  This is what I was gonna say. You know, for us as Catholics,
• 49:58
  we should always be asking ourselves, can we validly receive communion?
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  Meaning are we in that state of grace?
• 50:04
  That's what this conversion story really speaks to me about.
• 50:07
  Am I keeping that state of grace? Am I still excited about being Catholic?
• 50:11
  Am I excited that crisis is working in my life? And I need nothing else. Well,
• 50:15
  that's important.
• 50:15
  But if we're falling away for a period of time and now returning good confession
• 50:19
  is what we need. Good confession.
• 50:21
  And really all that I'm proclaiming is exactly what HIL Lebo is doing here.
• 50:24
  He really did just a very, very public confession saying, look,
• 50:27
  these are my sins. I'm not perfect.
• 50:29
  And I'm realizing that it's and through Christ that I find perfection,
• 50:32
  it's not about me. It's about Christ.
• 50:34
  And I need to learn more about the Catholic faith.
• 50:36
  I need to learn more about its beauty and I need to be in good standing in order
• 50:40
  to have a peaceful life. That's really what it comes down to.
• 50:42
  That's what the conversion is. If everybody does that,
• 50:45
  you'll never have to worry about deliverance.
• 50:46
  You'll never have to worry about the demonic influence in your life. Why?
• 50:49
  Because we're never gonna turn to crystals or oui boards or witchcraft or
• 50:53
  anything along those lines. We're gonna say, you know what?
• 50:56
  At the end of the day, I need to convert every day. I need to convert.
• 50:59
  Every minute of every day, the people ask me,
• 51:01
  am I a convert to the Catholic faith? Sure. I was baptized cradle Catholic,
• 51:04
  but every day I'm still converting to the capital basis. This is Dr.
• 51:08
  Stanwell saying until next week, let's keep a cap.