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Hour 1 with Dave Bartoo at Pearl River Resort: SEC Scheduling Changes + A Heavy Emphasis on Coaching · Out of Bounds with Bo Bounds

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  Speaker 1: Here we go. Good morning, Welcome in to the Out
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  Speaker 1: We are live from Pearl River Resort and Dancing Rabbit
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  Speaker 1: Golf Club. Had a great night last night at Philip
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  Speaker 1: video later on YouTube, but we've well, let's see, we've
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  Speaker 1: done about seven hours on YouTube, five of it with
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  Speaker 1: Dave bar two this week. So it's been a big time,
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  Speaker 1: big fun and we're excited about the show today to
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  Speaker 1: continue to nerd out on college football. It is that
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  Speaker 1: time and Jackson, let me know who's up today Laine
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  Speaker 1: Kiffin's SEC media days in Tampa, Florida. I'd like to
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  Speaker 1: know the schedule. I can't remember what you told me
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  Speaker 1: and maybe who went yesterday because bar two and I
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  Speaker 1: we're traveling and doing other things. We had a Whiskey
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  Speaker 1: sixty one feast at Philip Ems last night, one of
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  Speaker 1: those three hour dinners, we realized that we had never
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  Speaker 1: had like just dinner us two together. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: because usually when he comes in town, were we're pairing
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  Speaker 1: Bar two with pe ones and clients and friends and
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  Speaker 1: so on. And uh, whether the last time he was
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  Speaker 1: in town or we took him to hear Pearl River
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  Speaker 1: Resort or before that when we went up to Startbull
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  Speaker 1: and the U in the Mississippi State football facility, then
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  Speaker 1: we were always you know, having dinners and so on
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  Speaker 1: with people. So we had a great time at Philip Ems.
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  Speaker 1: They had a nice crowd and we shared a little
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  Speaker 1: Elijah Craig bourbon and the official bourbon of the show
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  Speaker 1: and just had a It was a good good night.
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  Speaker 1: The rabbi was good. Uh Bar two had the saffron chowder,
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  Speaker 1: and uh so we had to give him into the
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  Speaker 1: saffron chowder space. And I'm kind of rubbing it into Jackson. Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: you okay that I'm dropping that I had saffron chowder
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  Speaker 1: and a rabbi last night at Philip Ems.
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  Speaker 2: The bartwo gets the pass.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right? Got we get the path with with
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  Speaker 1: Bar two. Let me know when you've got the lineup
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  Speaker 1: for today.
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready to roll, baby, all right, So who do
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  Speaker 2: we have on this wonderful wonderful will you can give
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  Speaker 2: you Yesterday's real fast Yeah, that'd be great, all right, Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: July twenty.
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  Speaker 1: One, This is yesterday, obviously.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Coach Kirby Smart kicked it off at nine five.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Then we scrolled on down to you know, everyone's favorite,
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  Speaker 2: Alex Golish Okay, Clark Lee followed him up, Clark Lee
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  Speaker 2: Motors and Big Shane Beam.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that was smart and then kind of overshadowed everybody. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: fair enough. What's today?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 1: It's a day.
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  Speaker 3: We got a good day today.
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  Speaker 2: Kaitlin de Boor kicks us off at nine o five Snoozer,
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  Speaker 2: John Summrall, Yes, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Pete Golden One Deer Camp Pete. But now he's
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  Speaker 1: been a stylist. Uh I saw those pictures from the
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  Speaker 1: Rebel Road Tour last week and and nobody uh is
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  Speaker 1: into embraces or love optics like old miss. He has
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  Speaker 1: been to a stylist. There looked like there was jell
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  Speaker 1: Or Moose in his hair. He got a haircut, he
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  Speaker 1: he is. I mean, he's trying to break out of
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  Speaker 1: from deer Camp Pete to I don't know, man, he's
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  Speaker 1: not He can't be Alice Beach Lane because Lane's already
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  Speaker 1: got that. So I don't know what we're I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to figure out. Maybe Pete can ease into like
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  Speaker 1: Gulf Shores Pete. I'm not sure I've got I've got
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  Speaker 1: to think through that. But he it's it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: a country club look, so it's uh, this is this
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  Speaker 1: is a new Pete Golding. It sure looked like it.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta go back and look at They
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  Speaker 1: were somewhere Pascagoula in Dallas for the Rebel Road Tour
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  Speaker 1: last week, out there pressing the flesh and get their
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  Speaker 1: fans excited and cultivating relationships and making sure that you
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  Speaker 1: tell people thank you for getting in the car on
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  Speaker 1: a plane to go see you play, because they can
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  Speaker 1: do other things like go to the beach, the farm,
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  Speaker 1: the deer camp, or the outdoor patio six feet outside
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  Speaker 1: their their home. But I'm telling you, it looked like
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  Speaker 1: it looked like Pete went to a stylist. It looks great. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: did you see it? Did you see the picture.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and I mean even just the rebel road trip
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  Speaker 2: that you know they have like a cover for that,
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  Speaker 2: for their trip or whatnot that the you know, the
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  Speaker 2: social media type.
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  Speaker 1: Do a post, right and he looks great.
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  Speaker 2: There aren't they're ain't no more frizzies, you know in
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  Speaker 2: the hair, there's not gonna be any more you know,
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  Speaker 2: random hairs sticking out.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so we we have we are in the process
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  Speaker 1: of reshaping the image. Optics are everything. And well, how
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  Speaker 1: much does he get paid? Six and a half million they?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think about that. He went from defensive
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  Speaker 1: coordinator to a six and a half million dollar head
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  Speaker 1: coach in about twenty seconds once they got laying uh
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  Speaker 1: settled and and knew that he was going to lsu
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  Speaker 1: dressed about and then what they need you to do,
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  Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. I'm I'm impressed. Yeah, so you
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  Speaker 1: know he's more he's he's maybe sometimes you can do both.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes the versatility is deer camp Pete or country club Pete.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm thinking Southern country club. Yeah, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: mean we're talking some great rule, you know, Southern country clubs.
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  Speaker 1: and M's yesterday, like, we didn't get here till a
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  Speaker 1: little bit later in the afternoon, so he hasn't had
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  Speaker 1: the Black Eyed peas at Mom and M's, which is
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  Speaker 1: the restaurant in Bar and the Golden Moon. But we
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  Speaker 1: did have dinner at Philip Ems and uh, Bar two
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  Speaker 1: had a I think he had a New York strip.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't you get New York strip with the with the
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  Speaker 1: saffron chowder.
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  Speaker 3: That's it, the zaffron chowder and uh uh like you
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  Speaker 3: said a little Elisa Craig. Yeah, you know, a couple
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  Speaker 3: of Gin and Tonics. Yeah, it was yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. When we so when we got here,
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  Speaker 1: it was you know, you know, the hottest part of
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  Speaker 1: the day gets into that whatever that is four o'clock
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  Speaker 1: range or something, and good grief, it was hot.
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  Speaker 3: Boa was sweating, yeah, you know, and then you go
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  Speaker 3: into the ice cold.
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  Speaker 1: Which was grain Philip Ems. Ah. Man, it felt great. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the casino felt great to walk through to get to
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  Speaker 1: Philip Ems. So we may have to take Bartuto a
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  Speaker 1: stylist before he leaves. And get him some uh some geil.
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  Speaker 1: At least he's got hair, some yel or moose in
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  Speaker 1: his hair so that he can be ready for Elk
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  Speaker 1: season and football season.
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  Speaker 3: Give me some product. Pretty good him? Yeah, I don't know. So,
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  Speaker 3: so Pete went away from the grizzly atoms man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know he had he kind of had
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  Speaker 1: the real almost like a perm like a kind of.
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  Speaker 2: What say, Jackson, it's definitely permi.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's you know, and you could tell the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of years when they would show him during
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  Speaker 1: games and things, you know, he has hair coming out
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  Speaker 1: of his visor. Yeah, yeah, and so he What I
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  Speaker 1: said was, Pete looks like a guy who's been in
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  Speaker 1: the woods at deer camp for three weeks, which there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with. But I'm telling you he went to
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  Speaker 1: some fancy, fancy stylists in Oxford and he's got gel
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  Speaker 1: or something and he's got a totally new dude no more.
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  Speaker 1: It was kind of a coming out, no no more
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  Speaker 1: of that. So we're we're did.
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  Speaker 2: You say, would you not feel better if Levy did this?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna try to refrain from what I
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  Speaker 1: is your prediction this year for your team? All right,
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  Speaker 1: so are you going twelve and oh or eleven in one?
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  Speaker 1: Is basically the question in SEC country. I know there's
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  Speaker 1: not really any other debate. You know, we may have
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  Speaker 1: some ten and twos, but I know everybody's either going
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  Speaker 1: twelve and oh or eleven and one, especially with now
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  Speaker 1: a new nine game conference schedule and a mandated power
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  Speaker 1: for non con bar two.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, How are you, budd It is absolutely gorgeous outside,
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  Speaker 3: heats already coming.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but.
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  Speaker 3: No, actually don't you don't need to go twelve and
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  Speaker 3: zero eleven than one anymore? In the SEC four and
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  Speaker 3: eight with a strong strength of schedule should get to
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  Speaker 3: in right. I love it, you know, it is strength
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  Speaker 3: of schedule Apparently now makes you better as a team
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  Speaker 3: without playing a game.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Notre Dame's going to be proof that strength of
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  Speaker 1: schedule doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: How long have I been saying that, Right, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: There's no correlation to the quality of the team, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and I get it. You know, maybe it's a strength
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  Speaker 3: of record thing. Stop saying strength to schedule. Okay, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but what are you going to do when it's strength
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  Speaker 3: of schedule that divides your Let's say we're down to
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  Speaker 3: one one spot in the playoffs. Okay, okay, there's two
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  Speaker 3: teams on the block, both ninety three, right, they're both SEC.
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  Speaker 3: One's LSU, one's Missouri right, Right, it's we were talking
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  Speaker 3: about the brands, right, which one's Greg want to go LSU? Right? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but even that's okay, even if there's strength of schedules worse, right,
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  Speaker 3: So you know, it's it's trying to have your cake
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  Speaker 3: and eat it too. Sure picked the money, Sure we
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  Speaker 3: went to nine, and now we want to change the
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  Speaker 3: rules of ranking teams.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if that's net. So this is
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  Speaker 1: all played off of the media too, and and other
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  Speaker 1: and other media from other conferences watching what happens this week.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that's been like the main
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  Speaker 1: narrative in Tampa, you know, But I think he gets
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  Speaker 1: asked questions and he's like, you know, look, he did
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  Speaker 1: say we had a we had a conversation with the
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  Speaker 1: college Football Playoff Committee and it was unsatisfactory, Right, now
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  Speaker 1: do I know exactly what was I mean? You know,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, hey, we're going to nine games plus we're
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  Speaker 1: playing a P four team. What does that do to
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  Speaker 1: do anything for y'all? I mean, we're gonna play ten
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  Speaker 1: power four games?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Or it looks like now, like you said yesterday, Greg
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  Speaker 1: is telling his pre Greg Sankee for our listeners, SEC Commissioner,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like Greg Sankei. He's not telling because he
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  Speaker 1: answers to the presidents, but it looks like as they
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  Speaker 1: collaborate and work together that Sankei and the SEC presidents
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  Speaker 1: and SEC a ds have decided to opt out a
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  Speaker 1: power for non con game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. We've seen a couple of those, right, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And and unfortunately, the the the less we have for
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  Speaker 3: non conference, the more the conferences play themselves, the worse
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  Speaker 3: our strength of schedule gets.
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  Speaker 1: Right, But nobody no bases of comparison now, right, But
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  Speaker 1: everybody the other three conferences are just as much to
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  Speaker 1: blame too, because.
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  Speaker 3: They're not they're not doing it either, right, right, And so.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what happens with Clemson. You know, here,
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  Speaker 1: here's the deal. What happens? I mean, it's not going
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  Speaker 1: to be the end of the world. But what happens
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  Speaker 1: with Clemson South Carolina? Does anybody really care? Georgia Georgia Tech.
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  Speaker 1: But that's another kind of staple non con that's always played, right. Florida,
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  Speaker 1: Florida State, which hasn't had the sizzle the last fifteen years,
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  Speaker 1: But man, when Bobby Bowden and Steve Spurrier were there,
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  Speaker 1: it was an all out thrown In fact, it was
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  Speaker 1: it was the game of the year a lot of years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was you know, everybody looked forward to the
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  Speaker 3: right you know, and I think we'd all agree is
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  Speaker 3: when the big brands are better, if everything is is,
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  Speaker 3: it's just more fun. Yes, right, we want to see
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  Speaker 3: Catholics Convicts both in the top ten.
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  Speaker 1: No question. Well, and you just made a good point
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  Speaker 1: Miami being back for the first time in twenty five years. Right,
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  Speaker 1: Miami had decided to drive their football program right off
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  Speaker 1: the train tracks and Mario has done a good job
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  Speaker 1: putting that back together. That's a great point. Miami is
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  Speaker 1: one of those ones that jumped back up and decided
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  Speaker 1: to become to get in the VIP party last year,
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  Speaker 1: to be to be a lead again, right right to
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  Speaker 1: prod good Lord, they were they had some players, right,
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  Speaker 1: Mario is A. I don't know who's been. It's pressing
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  Speaker 1: more this morning, Mario, Crystalbaul or Brent Vinnables. But it's
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  Speaker 1: got to be one hell of a competition. They should
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  Speaker 1: do that. That would make SEC media days interesting.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: We want to get into where did national championship coaches
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  Speaker 1: from Dancing Rabbit Golf Club on the property of Pearl
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  Speaker 1: River Resort. Yes, Bar two and I did go to
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  Speaker 1: the sports book yesterday. We will be back there today.
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  Speaker 1: Bar two is going to make some bets on Week one,
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  Speaker 1: all missing Louisville and possibly some other games. But we
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  Speaker 1: want to get into where do national championship coaches come from?
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  Speaker 1: And So let's just go over Kurt Signety the last one,
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Day before that, Ohio State, and Jim Harbaugh at
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  Speaker 1: Michigan before that, and Kirby Smart before that, because everybody
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  Speaker 1: outside of the SEC is loving that we haven't won
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  Speaker 1: a championship in three years? Now? Are we going to
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  Speaker 1: win another one? Of course we are in our sleep.
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  Speaker 1: And would I be surprised if Georgia, Like if I
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  Speaker 1: went somewhere, if Bar two put me on a spaceship
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  Speaker 1: today and I didn't come back until January twenty first,
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  Speaker 1: and somebody told me that Georgia won the national championship,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised.
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  Speaker 3: You can't, right, right, you can't be. And I think
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  Speaker 3: when we were we were talking about the different coaches
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  Speaker 3: last night, and the reason I'd brought it up in
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  Speaker 3: our conversation is just watching on the social medias some
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  Speaker 3: of the people talking about, well, this is where national
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  Speaker 3: championship coaches come from. You've got to be a great
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  Speaker 3: OC or a great DC at some point. They don't
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  Speaker 3: come from small schools, you know. And I think it
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  Speaker 3: was a lot of it was in reference to will
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  Speaker 3: Stein being a really good offensive coordinator at Oregon and utsa.
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  Speaker 3: Now he's at Kentucky, and you know, it kind of
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  Speaker 3: just got me thinking of where do And it goes
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  Speaker 3: along with the conversation we had too about sometimes as
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: an athletic director, when you're hiring guys, it's better to
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: be more lucky than good. Sure, right, And you look
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: at these national championship guys and yeah, we love elite ocs.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: We love elite DC's. Look at Kirby, yeah, right, I
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: mean he is in my numbers, without a doubt, the
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: best defensive coordinator in the two thousands. Yeah, at least
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: it's twenty ten. Okay, Okay, you know in uh, let's
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: call it his generation, right, the last fifteen years. You know,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: I'm never one of those guys of greatest of all time?
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: I like, how were you in your generation? Because rules,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: everything's always changing. Sure, you know we're going to look
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: back at the post in pre nil era, right, right,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: because that twenty twenty one transition, we're going to look
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: back and it's going to be I think it's going
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: to be Wow, that really really changed football. We know
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: it's going to, but to what extent We're not sure? Right,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: So you look at these you look at the national champions.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: And you look at Kurt Signetti, right, was he an
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: elite OC?
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: No?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Is he in leade DC?
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: No? No?
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Did he come out of the G six? Actually he
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: came out of what Division two?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Division three? So he didn't have that before that, you
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: got Ryan Day, Okay, we'll give him elite OC. Right,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: So we got an elite OC. But Jim Harbaugh wasn't
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: elite anything before being a head coach. He was at
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: San Diego, no scholar scholarship. San Diego is where he
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: started as the head coach. So two of our last
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: three national championship winning head coaches came from what most
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: fans would say the absolute bottom of the bucket in
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: terms of college football. Right, you know, national champions don't
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: come from there, right, And then you got Kurby and.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Think about that. Yeah, quick, bart two, I understand Signetty.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: You know having to go. I mean he went from
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: low ball, low a minor league baseball basically to the
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: promised land of winning the National championship. But Harball, after
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: playing fifteen years in the NFL and having played at
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: a blue blood, still had to go to San Diego
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: with a non scholarship football program to cut his teeth exactly.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, go right, and then to Stanford and so forth.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: But Stanford didn't win before him or after him. That's
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: how damn good he is.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he wasn't some great offensive or defensive coordinator
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: like a Kirby Right or O Ryan Day. And then
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: obviously you have Nick Saban. Where's his first job? Toledo?
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: He's head coach at Toledo Rockets. Right, So now we
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: got a guy coming from now when we got two
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: division two, Division three guys, an elite DC, elite OC
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: and a guy from the MAC right, and then we
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: have that then oh gosh, then the twenty nineteen LSU.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Or Durons Eddie oh.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Right, and Eddie Well, Eddie's been Eddie's an elite storyteller.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: He is, oh my gosh, makes him an elite recruiter,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: right right.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, if if there was a thirty to thirty
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: to thirty ESPN thirty thirty on recruiting stories, I'd be like,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: could you just turn the camera on two people.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: That I would love to hear from if they could
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: say whatever they wanted, which they kind of can today
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: since we're new rules, which Ed is kind of doing
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: in interviews, which is great. Yeah, he's legal because we
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: were so pearl clutching as college football, we knew that
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: kids have been paid under the table. It's been dirty forever. Churches.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Let me, what do we do it? Yeah, we have
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: a salary cap now, so what But the same the
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: two guys that there's more than this. But the two
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: guys currently would be Eddio and Mario Cristobal listening because
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: they're absolutely ruthless warlords when it comes to recruiting. Yeah, okay,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: go ahead, yeah, yeah, And I think one of my
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: by the way, right now you have and I may
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: have missed one, but right now you have Dabbo National
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Championship coach non Alito c or DC Signetti National Championship.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: This is recently save Signetti, Saban and Eddie. Oh right,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I think I'm missing one. But these are guys who
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: were never ever elite play callers and their national championship coaches.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Jim Dressel, thank.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: You, Jim.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Trust he's not he was never released.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: An unbelievable football coach.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good grief that Youngstown State and this guy.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: They were so well coached, so fundamentally sound in the trenches.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: So but very Signetti like go ahead, right far too, Irban.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Meyer non elite OC, non alite DC. Another one Bowling
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Green State University right right and urban to me has
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: always been the poster child of the progressive head coach,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: instant impact. He walked into Bowling Green, Bowling Green, Bam,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: eight and four, nothing to eight and four, walks into Utah, bam,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: walks into Florida. I mean everything that man touched. He
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: was the most progressive in terms of being able to
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: move from program to program.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Hang on, let me go through them again. These are
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: for our listeners. These are coaches that have won national championships.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about in nineteen sixty seven, which doesn't matter.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: In the last fifteen years. Dabo Signetti, Saban, ed O'sern,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Jim Trussell, Urban Meyer.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: No, a lot of.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Them were Elite OC's or DC's. This is past.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I'll give you another one. Okay, this guy average play caller.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher, Oh wow, Jim bow But he had to
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: be great. You know how we label guys. Because he
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: was under Saban, they had to do a score ten
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: points a game. When he was at LSU, he immediately
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: got that that law. So if you're near Saban, or
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: you're near urban at a certain time, or you're near
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: dab you know how we are. Yeah, you're near. That
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: means you're elite, right Sean McVay, Charlie White Senior and
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Romeo Crenell under Bill Belichick, And they both went three
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: and thirty nine when they got head coaching, and Josh
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: McDaniel and when when they got head coaching jobs, they.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Couldn't they couldn't get it done.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, you know, Dave bar two on the Out
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: of Bound Show.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: How about a really good offensive coordinator? I would say,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: not elite, but came out of nowhere right where he started.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Gus smells On, Yeah, right, Arkansas State Actually, Arkansas States
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: has produced a couple of guys.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so Gush, Hugh Freeze.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Not not but Jones, Not but Jones. How is he
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: getting renewed?
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, right, but you're right, Mauson and Freeze
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and they made quick quick stops in Jonesborough.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: And then you go and you go even past fifteen years, though,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: is you do have the elite play caller, the elite
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: football mind in Spurrier.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Sure, we'll we'll.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Give him, We'll give him that if you.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Were grading back then he would have graded oh.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Through through the roof. Okay, right, I mean I doubt,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: I doubt there is anybody that I knew that could
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: take twenty two guys and win a football game, just
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: any random twenty two guys and just go out and
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: play football, you know, just just just his mind in
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: terms of being able to manage the game, the offense,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: the flow of the game, everything. I don't think there
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: was anybody like him. There's a lot of similarities between
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Spurrier and Lane Kiffin. There there is, actually, I always
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: I always thought one of the biggest similarity to the
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Spurrier in terms of just give me, just give me
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: a play card.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Leach is Leech. Yeah, you know is you know, drive
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: around on.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: The golf cart for six days and then Saturday, show up,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: go coach a game, win.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Kick your tail.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Just give me eleven guys and I'll beat you.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Just just absolutely amazing. Okay.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: One more, Chiswick was not an elite DMC and he
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: wanted at Auburn.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Right and anything. And then less Miles, Oh my gosh,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: less Miles.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: He wasn't an elite play caller. No, he was an
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: offensive line coach who played under both Shimbeckler. All right,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: so let's go through this list for our listeners. We
• 27:55
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• 28:20
  Speaker 1: we're probably even missing more. But right now, these are
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: non elite OC or DC play callers that have won
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: national championships in the two thousands. Dabo Signetti, Saban ed Osron,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Jim Tressel, Urban Meyer, jimbo Fisher, Gene Chiswick and as
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Bar two just said, less miles, right.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: So, and then you look at your current top twenty five,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: look at your contenders right now? Okay, yeah, in Indiana,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: still there, right right? Mario is just an offensive line coach,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: that's right. He started at FIU.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: He was, That's a great point. He was at FIU,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: which is a brutal job. And think about that. Mario's
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: never been a play caller, but he has morphed into
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: one hell of a head coach and he's done a
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: great job. And he got into the national championship game. Right,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: that's a big deal. It's a huge and even bigger
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: deal now that you have to win more games to
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: get there.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to win. You got to play fifteen
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: to get there, you know. And and you know Indiana,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: I mean they won sixteen games last year. Miami played
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: sixteen games thirteen and three, you know. And you look
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: at Texas Tech top ten Joey maguire of high school coach,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: right Elko really good defensive coordinator, Calin de Boor, he
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: wasn't a great offense or defensive coordinator, you know, and
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: you're kind of good.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: He's been up he went Duboor started like at the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: lowest of the low too. Yeah, he's been down in
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the you know, d three forty thousand dollars year budget
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: school where I'm you know, making sure that the field,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I'm mowing the grass.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're also doing that, right, and so.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: We're not being we're not in bell that no, I mean,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Signetti was doing the same thing at Indiana PA.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: What right, you know? And you and you go and
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: you go through your SEC coaches, Okay, right, just because
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I mean it is I mean that's our focus here anyways.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: But you look at your top twenty five right now,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: and it's just a smattering of where guys came from.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: But you you got Georgie, got Kirby right obviously the
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: elite DC to start with. But you got Shane Beemer,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: special teams coordinator. He was never a play called or
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: he wasn't like Pete Golding. Now, Pete is I would
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: put him right on the border of elite. Okay, border
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: of elite, Yeah he is. I don't have his grade
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: right in front of me. But he's done it at
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: two places, okay, and he's done it really really well.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: So so he's borderline there. I would say, Pete Golding
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: and Mike elcho as PC's very very similar, got it, Brentville.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: That's a good you kind of profile. That's a good comp.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: For Ford, know Pete. Pete hasn't coach the head you know,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: I have been a head coach yet for regular seas, right,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: so we don't have those comparables. But as a d C.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Both of them were excellent over their careers of multiple places.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: You know we would well as as as a head coach,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: we would both take a Mike Elko or a Pete
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Golding as our DC anywhere. Sure, right, you know Venables
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: super elite DC wo wow, right, hypel elite OC, Sarkesian
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: elite OC. You know, And but then some of the
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: newer guys.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: He's not elite on either side, but he has done
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: a magnificent job at Troy and Tulane exactly right.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: And then but you look at your newer hires. Gaulish
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: yet hasn't been elead at anything. Two bad years as
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: a play caller and one good one last year. Right,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: you know, Silverfield hasn't been elite at anything. By the way,
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: our listener silverfielders at Arkentuckansas now and I and I
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: don't think where where did drink was at? An elite
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: play caller?
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: No?
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: To start, he had a great running out stay. So
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: you know, these guys come from all sorts of walks
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: of life, and there's no pattern or necessarily rhyme or reason.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: You just never know.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: It's just sometimes you just get like you're sad day, right,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: and That's one of the beauties of college football, though,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: is the unknown, the hope that your guy is the
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: guy this year, and then he's not, and we start over,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: and then we hope your guy is the guy next year.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like NFL and quarterbacks. You have to
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: constantly If you don't get the head coach position right
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: in college football or the quarterback position in NFL, it's
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: a non starter.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: It's over.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: It's over, right. Yeah, So look at the Cleveland Browns
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the last twenty five years. Yeah, Holy Mary ol zep
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: bar two real quick, if you had to pick, if
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: you had to pick right now, offensive coordinator, John David Baker,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Jeff Levy.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: John David Baker.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So if bart two was picking an
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: OC today and he had to pick between John David
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Baker and Jeff Levy, he would pick John David Baker.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: And we believe that Pete Golding went to a stylist.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: We're not sure where Oxford. Whatever this man is, I mean,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: he is he looks he almost looks more Raymond James
• 33:20
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