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Giants Super Bowl Champion wide receiver Stephen Baker joins the show! · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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whatever you want. And now, ladies and gentlemen,
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he's been waiting calmly and carefully.
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First time on Jabba and the mouth.
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Yes, we are now talking to I I'm sure fish is is loving this.
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He's a giant fan speed. He's a giant fan over here.
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Scoops the poops is a giant fan. Just me?
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I'm not, but I love this guy. We are now talking to former New
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York Giants Super Bowl champion wide receiver.
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I've got a new name for him. I'm going to call him the play
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shaker himself, Stephen Baker. Stephen, what is?
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What's up? Hey, I'm so excited to be here,
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man. You guys are very professional.
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I'd love the pre thing you were talking about baseball.
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I'm a Dodgers fan because I grew up in Los Angeles.
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I go back to the old days with Steve Garvey on first base doing
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the splits. Steve Garvey Now I'm now I'm
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really feel old. Steve Garvey I well, I'm 43, so
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I'm not too far from you. I might not look it, but I, I
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remember Steve Garvey and I remember those Dodger teams.
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I remember Oral Harsh Hershiser. Jabba talks about him all the
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time, tells me he's one of the best pitchers of all time.
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I, I think Jabba's on drugs, but that's, that's just, he's Jabba
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Chamberlain. He's Jabba Chamberlain.
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So I can't I can't attack him because he's a former Yankee and
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he and he was a flamethrower and one of the great relief pitchers
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when he played at the time that he was playing.
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So I can't really attack him on that.
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So, and I he'll tell you what do you know about baseball?
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I was in the league. You never played.
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So whatever. I'm sorry John, you know,
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Speaking of New York Giants football and you know a little
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bit about it because you were coached from two of the greatest
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coaches, actually three of the greatest coaches of all time,
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Tom Coughlin, Bill Belichick and the great Belt Parcells.
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What was it like being coached by all of those 3 great coaches?
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Well, first of all, coming to the New York Giants after they
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won the Super Bowl, Parcells was a straight up heads up guy.
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He didn't talk to you like a player coach.
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He talked to you like somebody in the street.
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So when we came here as rookies, he let us rookies know right
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away when we weren't practicing. Well, we had a dual practice
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with the Patriots and we weren't doing too well.
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And he caught us all in a huddle and told us, take a look over
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there. We looked at the team over there
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and he's like, I won the Super Bowl with them.
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I don't need any of you sons of bees.
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And like, man, you know what, He's right.
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They won the Super Bowl. They don't really need us.
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So he was that type of guy, man. He motivated you through fear
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and to see how you would respond.
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And as you can imagine, he would always talk about me and my size
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being little, having an earring in my ear.
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Coming from California, he didn't like any of them and Fast
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forward to Tom Coughlin being our wide receiver coach.
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Man, he was actually harder than Parcells.
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Most people don't realize that he gave us written tests the
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night before the game and if you didn't pass the written test,
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you did not play. We used to sneak out of the
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hotel rooms when we had home games.
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We as soon as they do bed check, we would peek out.
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Nobody's there. We go get in our cars and go
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home and sleep in our beds. When Tom Coughlin came on the
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team, he sat outside in the the room of the floor rather where
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we were reading a newspaper till about three or two in the
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morning man to make sure we didn't sneak out.
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Belichick always respected my gameplay.
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He always made sure that I went up against Mark Collins and
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Jesus Perry Williams in one-on-one drills because we
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made each other better. I was a little receiver, which
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always gave big, tall defensive backs problems and vice versa,
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tall guys trying to jam me. It made me a better player.
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So he always respected my input on that.
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And you know, I look back on it, those were the three best
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coaches I think that I've ever played for.
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So you played in the heyday of the NFC East where it was
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thought of as the best division in football for a long time.
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I see you guys winning 2 Super Bowls, Dallas winning all the
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Super Bowls they did in the 90s. We've actually had a few of them
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on our show to Doc Walker, who played for the Commanders,
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Washington at that time, tight end Tony Casillas who was on
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those Cowboys teams. There were a lot of rivalries
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with those guys. What was those some of the
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rivalries like for you and is there any individual player that
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you had a personal grudge with? The rivalry, like you said, the
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NFC Eastman, the Redskins, well, now they're commanders.
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But man, when they were called the Redskins at Daryl Green,
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Man, he was a beast. But he was all class.
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And I always tell people when you ran a route against him, you
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couldn't do like a change of speed route.
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Like run slow and then try to speed up.
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You had to run full tilt at him because you run full tilt at
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him, come out to break. You're like, it's no way he
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could break on this ball. And sure enough, a soft hand
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would come and just bat the ball away.
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He gave me the best compliment ever.
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My first start against the Redskins, I went 80 yards.
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And they asked him at the end of the game, why didn't he catch
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me? And he said the guy I was
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chasing wasn't exactly a turtle. Yeah, I I I treasure that
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because he was gaining on me, man, If everybody see the
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highlight, like, yo, he was gaining.
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Hey, but he didn't catch me. That's all that matters.
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He called Mark Navarro that game and he called Maurice Carthon
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because they both look back. I just tilted my head back and
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act like I was running, playing street ball in California when I
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grew up. And of course we hated the
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Eagles. The Eagles, man, come on.
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You know that they used to throw batteries at us, man, 9 Volt
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batteries hit you in the helmet and it resonates so loud.
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And they, they were the most hated.
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I think them and the Cowgirls, I mean Cowboys, were the two most
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things we could not take. You're going to you're going to.
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There's a lot of Cowboy fans that listen to their show, so
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I'm sure you got them jumping for whatever, trying to trying
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to grab them, trying to grab them in the scream and.
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You know what, that is fine because I can say that because I
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was born in San Antonio, TX and I was a die hard Cowboy fan
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until the day I got drafted. I had Tony Dorsett's picture on
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my dorm wall until the day I got drafted.
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Then it was time to put childish things away.
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I'm a giant fan for life now, but I like the Cowboys up to
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that point. I like him.
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I like him. We are we are talking to former
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New York Giants Super Bowl champion wide receiver, the
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touchdown maker, but I'm calling him the play.
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Shaker himself played for the New York Giants from 1987 and 92
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and won Super Bowl 25. And his name is Stephen Baker.
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You know Stephen. We look at the game and and the
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game's completely changed from when you played in those days.
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The corners can pull your jersey.
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There was no penalties. There's you barely can.
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I mean, if you played in the days of now where if you touched
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a wide receiver, you're getting a 15 yard penalty.
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If you played with your speed now, you would be a lot faster
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with all the training facilities that they have right now and all
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the the opportunities that some of these players have in the
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offseason. What type of player do you think
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you would be now in the NFL for what you were in the 80s and the
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early 90s? I actually got the best
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compliment from coach Pope, who coached the tight ends for us
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and then he coached Dallas, I believe Green Bay.
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And he had told me a couple years ago, he said, Bake, if you
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were playing today, they would not be able to touch you.
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And I would say this about yesteryear's players.
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The way we played, we were a little more aggressive.
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Man, I see the me and my, my brother and I was just talking
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about this. When receivers are running
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routes now on the DB, they let them do this hand grabbing.
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Now the little fighting and whatnot.
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Tom Coughlin taught us to beat the crap out of their hands.
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They need to take karate lessons because all you got to do is
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chop them right across that radius.
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They're all in their bone really hard and they'll stop all that
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grabbing. But I, I know for a fact I would
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have stayed off of social media because people are so critical
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of your play today. And I would have just focused on
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me, man, just doing what I do best and work hard and practice
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practicing like his game time. Not complaining about not
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getting any targets. I ain't gonna say no names.
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A.J. Brown for that kills me, man.
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You're freaking four. And oh, and you're complaining
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about touches. Mark Ingram caught 37 passes our
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Super Bowl year. I caught 34, I believe.
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Did we complain? No.
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It got us one of these. We worked our tail off when they
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asked us to block. We block.
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I get a lot of haters. How do you get the touchdown
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maker? He only scored 23 touchdowns.
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The little history on that. I got that name in junior
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college when I scored 31 touchdowns in two years.
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A reporter came up to me after the first time I played on
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artificial turf and said, hey, that was the greatest
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performance I've ever seen by a wide receiver.
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I scored four in a row. And he said, do you mind if I
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call you Stephen Baker, the touchdown maker?
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And I said, sure, go ahead. And I went on to score 31.
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At that time, it was a junior college national record, which I
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with OJ Simpson, that was the only thing we had in common.
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By the way, the name just kind of stuck.
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And you can imagine coming here to Parcells, he's like, how many
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touchdowns you got in this league?
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Giant fans still Remember Me by that name and I didn't score a
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lot. But hey, I always say that one
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in the Super Bowl when my team needed it and I was always there
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for my team when they needed me. So I want to reference some a
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guy you brought up earlier in Mark Bavaro that was thought of
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as one of the best tight ends of that era, one of the best, one
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of probably a top ten, top 15 tight end in in the game.
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What was he like as a teammate on and off the field?
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And do you think he was one of the guys that kind of changed
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the tight end position where he's always kind of thought of
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as more of that like big tight blocker?
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Yeah, you know what? He kind of reminds me of Mackey
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from back in the day. God rest.
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His play for the Colts, he was a hard running tight end as well.
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And there's a guy on the Giants right now that kind of reminds
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me of Bavaro, but he's a little more vocal scout.
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Bavaro was real quiet, but he was a quiet assassin.
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I recall one game we played a preseason against the Houston
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Oilers and we ran a play. We got back in the huddle and he
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said run it against Sims and I brought in the the play you're
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supposed to run. And Sam said coach said to run
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this. He said no, run it again.
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Bavaro Pancake the guy man. And of course in the meetings
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when Parcells is over there with his hands on his hips and the
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meetings, I had to take the blame.
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So I said I brought in the wrong place so the quarterback
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wouldn't get in trouble. But Mark was a silent assassin.
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If you did him wrong, he was going to get you back.
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And I tell you, he was. Now, he talks a lot.
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He didn't talk a lot. You know, he's called him Rocky
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and all that stuff. Now, man, you get my mark on a
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microphone. You can't shut him up.
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Lawrence Taylor I met Lawrence Taylor I one of the nicest
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people I've ever met, sitting having a conversation.
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He knows football, he knows a little bit about everything.
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When you have a conversation with Lawrence, he'll talk about
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music, he'll talk about it, he'll talk about anything.
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You bring it up, he'll tell you what that what his favorite gum
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is, what type of gummy you should eat and and what you
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shouldn't be eating. He is one of the funniest people
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you'll ever meet. What type of player, what type
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of captain was Lawrence Taylor in the locker room?
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The way he led was by his play. He wasn't really a vocal leader
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like a Pepper Johnson or Harry Carson.
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But I remember we were playing The Jets in preseason.
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Richard Todd I believe was the quarterback and I'd never seen
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that stadium get so loud when came on 1/3 and something and
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got a sack and I said to myself, man, that's why he gets paid
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$1,000,000, which is nothing compared to today's salaries,
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but back then it was a lot of money.
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He was just a team leader by his play and one of the nicest guys
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in the locker room. Man, I remember my daughter was
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Girl Scouts and he, he bought like, you know, 50 boxes from
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me. If you needed to borrow some
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money from him, he would loan it to you.
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Just better remember to pay him back because he won't forget.
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But I still see Lawrence at golf events, you know, I see him at
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Otis Anderson's golf event. We do every year.
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He can play some golf, man. But he was playing ever since
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back in the day when we were in the 80s and whatnot.
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His game is is impeccable. That's what keeps him going is
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golf. Him and Otis Anderson, by the
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way. He is one of the most
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competitive people I've ever had a conversation with.
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He would tell me, listen, let's I, you have a deck of cards.
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I'll never forget when I first met him, I was like, no, why
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would I have a deck of cards? He's like, he pulled it right
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out of his back pocket. He says, I bet you I'll pull out
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a bit. I'll, I'll pull out a hard, a
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higher card than you. I'll bet you 20 bucks.
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I was like, I don't want to bet you 20 bucks.
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I was like, wait, wait, why is it he just said, I'll bet you 20
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bucks. I'll pull out the I'll give you
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a better chance. I'll, I'll split the cards and
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you can pick anything from the split cards and say no Lawrence,
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I, I, I'm sure you could. So I, that was, that's a funny.
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And of course, you brought up The Jets because I am a Jet fan
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and I'm an Eagles. Fan too, by the way.
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So say yeah, Well, I'll tell you a quick story.
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Everybody asked me how do a Jets and Eagles fan.
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All right. I was a Donovan McNabb fan.
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I followed him in Syracuse. I followed him in Syracuse.
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He was my favorite player in college.
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I followed him in the NFL when he was drafted by the Eagles.
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And The Jets were never good. So when The Jets would never
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make the playoffs, I had to root for somebody.
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And I couldn't stand the Giants. I couldn't.
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I can't stand. And then I got this guy, and you
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probably you haven't seen him. You could pop in just for a
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second fish. I want you to see this guy wears
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all giant stuff on this show. Every show.
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See. Look at I'm mad.
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There he is. There he is, and he's my
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executive producer. Got to represent, you know what
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I mean? Look at I hide it from nothing
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just because we don't win every year.
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Yeah, and he makes a lot of excuses and he finds a way.
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Bandwagon second favorite team. And he finds it.
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Are you kidding me? Please get out of here.
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Get out of the frame. You pissed me off.
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You. Come back, coach.
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Hey, but on a serious topic of Wesley Walker is a very good
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friend of mine. I called him the real 85.
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He should be in the Hall of Fame.
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Bruce Harper is another good friend of mine.
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I I'm a little bit taller than him but I told him when I
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watched him I always looked up to him because I said if that
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little dude made it I have a chance.
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So couple of jets are my favorite.
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Wesley Walker. I met Wesley Walker three times.
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I got his phone number. He told me I can.
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And that was another thing that I have to give you.
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Wesley. I saw him at a couple of
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concussion events with Curtis Martin and a bunch of Jets.
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Joe Namath and Wesley was the nicest, nicest person too.
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Very kind, very collective, very nice to the ladies.
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He's very smooth. He is a smooth dude, I could
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tell you that. You know what most people don't
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know? He's legally blind.
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And why not? Yes, I did know that.
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And he actually told me because I was like, I was playing like
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slap boxing with him and I was just like, and he's like, I'm
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blind. I'm blind.
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I actually found it out because I used to read up on receivers
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and I read that sometime when I was in high school and I was
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like wow. And if anybody thinks it's easy,
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go try to catch a over shoulder ball with one eye close.
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He should be in the Hall of Fame.
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And I tell him all the time, he's got the numbers.
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Before I answer my question, I just want to mention on a side
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note, we also a couple years ago had The Jets superfan Fireman Ed
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on our show and he actually Bruce Harper is the jersey he
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always wears and he was actually telling a story about that.
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That was that was very interesting.
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So I want to shift gears. First of all, Fireman fire, Mr.
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Fireman was a Miami Dolphin fan. That's also true.
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Yeah, that's right. OK, so let's not really go too
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deep into that. I didn't know that.
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Steven, I'll. Give you.
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I'll throw you some curves, Steven.
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Steven made sure. To say, do the same tradition
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when he got drafted by the Giants.
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I always hate the Cowboys for the rest of his life.
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So we can respect, we can expect that way of thinking.
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So I want to shift to the gears with the the current Giants and
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obviously the drama that they've had the last two years with,
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with Saquon Barkley, obviously with with Daniel Jones.
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I gave him the contract and then they caught him last year and
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now he's striving over there in Indianapolis.
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Mistake. And So what are your thoughts to
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like that whole saga, how it went down with everything, with
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hard? Knocks Well, of course I saw it
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like you guys, man. And I I was shocked to here when
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you heard Mara say I don't want to say I know that kid is good
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for our locker room. He's a team player, what not I'd
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hate to see him go to the Eagles.
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And where does he go? Right to the Eagles.
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And on another note, look at Oh my God, they went to the Colts.
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Daniel Jones, Daniel Jones, Daniel Jones, man, Evan Ingram,
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yes, Evan Ingram. Look how well he's doing.
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The guy that went to the Raiders who left the Giants?
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I mean The Jets losing name the black quarterback for the
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Raiders, Dang. Gino.
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You know, thank you guys, man. And one more, the Seattle
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quarterback right now, This is my philosophy on it and Otis
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Anderson as well. Some of these kids can't handle
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the New York pressure, man. New York would keep it real.
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The reporters, they keep it real.
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You go to these other places like Indianapolis, hey, why did
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you drop that ball? I was just having a bad day.
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And they'll accept that. But New Yorkers won't accept
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that. And I think these kids can't
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handle the New York pressure, and when they go to other teams,
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they thrive. We are talking.
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We are talking to former New York Giants Super Bowl champion
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wide receiver, the one and only Stephen Baker.
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You know, Steven, Danny Dimes is a guy that I since he was
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drafted, I stuck up for him. I there are a lot of haters, a
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lot of people that didn't like him.
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They thought he was goofy and goofy.
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He tripped on his own feet all the way to the end zone.
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And everybody, they show that video every single time they
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show clips of the New York Giants and Danny Dimes.
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And I thought that the Giants did him a disservice.
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They never really gave him anything.
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No wide receivers. They were reaching the offensive
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line was horrible. They never did the right thing
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for the kid, and now you see him right now flourish over there in
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Indianapolis. Maybe he'd be doing that with
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the Giants. I'm not taking shots at the
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Giants organization. Or maybe I am.
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Maybe I am, but Jackson Dart has looked special.
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He has and he's a young kid. He he's a little, little wet
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behind the ears. He lost against the Saints.
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He didn't look good against the Saints.
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And then he goes on Thursday Night Football.
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And finally, after how many years the they beat the Eagles
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and Eagles team that I expect to be a Super Bowl contender this
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year. And this is the same Eagles that
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last year did not look good until the second-half of the
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season. Then it barely lost the game.
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So the Giants got the Eagles at the perfect time where the
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Eagles we're not, they're not offensively sound.
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They're not getting the ball into the places they should be.
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And Jalen Hurts has been a shell of what he was in the
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second-half of the season last year.
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What are your thoughts? What do you think?
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What do you believe is the problem right now with the
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Eagles offense? Well, for one, and you know, I
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had to take it to my to my wide receivers because I played the
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position man. If you saw the what game was
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that? The game Saquon, the ball 6
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times was that last week, last week, a week before?
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And didn't A.J. Brown go on Twitter or whatever
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and say that the offense is boring?
20:17
I want more targets. What do they do?
20:19
They target him. He what, 5 catches for 43 yards
20:22
or whatever and you go for away from who you are.
20:25
You can't do that man. You're not bigger than the team.
20:28
Who cares about your targets, bro?
20:30
I just told you that earlier take the plays when they call
20:33
your number, just be ready. All that going to social media
20:36
and complaining about not getting the ball like we all
20:38
want the ball. You think I Mark Ingram 37 and
20:41
I'm 34 passes. We didn't want the ball.
20:43
We see it on 3rd down. They blitz and we look over the
20:47
side like guys look, I'm one-on-one.
20:49
But no, keep your mouth shut. Let it do what it do.
20:52
Y'all could have been probably 5 and all until we beat you.
20:55
But and that that's just freaking from the offensive side
20:58
of the ball defensively. I mean, you know, silly stuff.
21:04
Even that first game when the guy spit in Dallas.
21:06
The quarterback, Jaylen. Carter, Yeah.
21:08
Yeah, where do you where do you get this from?
21:11
I I don't I just don't understand these kids mentality
21:13
sometime today. But that's my thoughts on the
21:16
Philadelphia offense. Now if you want to know about
21:18
the Giants, I'm loving this kid Dart and Scatterboo.
21:22
Scalabu reminds me of a old school.
21:25
All stop, you know all snot, all stop.
21:28
From the Tampa Mid Buccaneers. Remember him?
21:30
Yeah, Mike, all start. Yeah.
21:32
Mike, all side men, Otis Anderson say he may not last
21:35
long, but who cares, This is how you play football.
21:37
If Parcells was coaching his team, he would say look, guys,
21:40
defensively and offensively, this is how you play football.
21:45
And I'm loving him and I like how he gave praise to his
21:48
offensive line during the ending of that game because he had a
21:52
couple of 10 yard runs or 15 yard runs and he gave homage to
21:55
his offensive line. Dart has to learn how to go
21:59
down, man. We saw the one hit he took and
22:01
had to go in the tent and then another first down he put his
22:05
head down and went head up with somebody.
22:08
Now they got tape on you man. You know, they're going to start
22:11
devising plans to make you go a certain way so they can sack
22:14
you. So.
22:16
But he is exciting to watch. And that was, you know, I live
22:19
down here by Philly, believe it or not.
22:21
I'm in Woodbury, NJ, 5 miles from the Walt Whitman Bridge,
22:26
thus Eagles country. So it felt good to be able to
22:29
wear my stuff with pride for a change around here.
22:32
And everybody was looking at me side eye, believe it or not.
22:35
I'm sure I'm positive. I'm positive on that.
22:39
So you're talking you're talking about the the the running backs
22:43
and obviously Jackson Dart would deal with the injuries and stuff
22:45
like that too. There was a story during the
22:47
offseason about a lot of people, a lot of players that were
22:50
mentioning that the guaranteed money was not right for a lot of
22:53
these players. And there was collusion in the
22:55
offseason. Lamar Jackson got underpaid as a
22:57
result because of Deshaun Watson and stuff like that.
22:59
And obviously there's all these running backs like Saquon that
23:01
did not get the money that they deserve to get.
23:03
Obviously you played in the pre salary cap era, but obviously
23:06
you've probably been around the team enough to know some of
23:07
these players, like just in contract negotiations, like what
23:10
is it like as a player? And do you think there really is
23:12
so these nitpicking going on in the NFL?
23:14
Well, you know what, I think if you produce and you do what
23:18
you're supposed to do, you will get paid.
23:21
I don't like when athletes try to get paid when they haven't
23:24
done nothing yet. I mean, that's just life
23:27
one-on-one. You used to have to work for
23:29
stuff these days, you know what I mean?
23:30
Back in our day, you had to work for it.
23:32
You know, I ain't a shame to say my contract my final year was
23:35
50525I thought I was the richest person in the world.
23:40
That is the bonus, way more than that for just, you know, 80
23:44
million guaranteed and whatnot and you still haven't done
23:47
nothing. And what really?
23:49
And I'm sure if you were owner, it would make you angry too.
23:53
You pay a kid all this money and then they wind up getting hurt,
23:56
you know, and they say no name CD Lamb, but you know that no
24:00
rush to get back on the field. It seems like too, if people ask
24:03
me, why would you think Tyree Kill was smiling?
24:06
Because what? He got an 80% of his contract.
24:09
He ain't got to play no more. He wanted out anyway.
24:11
I believe it's just a different era.
24:14
Mr. Baker All right, I'm going to put you in a position right
24:16
now. You're a GM of GM of a football
24:18
team, an NFL football team, and you have your pick on what
24:24
quarterback you would pick right now and wide receiver, You have
24:27
anybody you want. Who would you pick at the
24:30
quarterback position and who would you pick at the wide
24:33
receiver position to win a Super Bowl?
24:35
Give me two guys. All right, I'm going.
24:37
My quarterback is going to be Lamar Jackson.
24:40
I just love what he brings to the game with his mobility and
24:44
his ability to throw the ball down field.
24:46
Now, wide receiver, I don't go for the cocky guys, man.
24:50
Give me somebody like the kid from the Rams and the Joku.
24:53
Is that his name? I'm sorry.
24:57
Give me him. I like somebody like that who's
24:59
consistent, makes plays. Ain't the fastest guy in the
25:04
world as a total team player because I've never been a fan of
25:08
these guys that that get in the end zone and start twerking like
25:11
like women and stuff. Like just do what you're
25:13
supposed to do and this first down, that's what you're
25:16
supposed to do. You don't celebrate.
25:19
You know, as a giant, you weren't a big fan of Odell
25:21
Beckham then. I have to tell you, I wasn't,
25:25
man. I didn't like all that because
25:27
it's unnecessary. I can see your first touchdown.
25:30
OK, you're excited, but you know what Parcells would have said to
25:33
us if we did all these shenanigans here?
25:35
Like, are you a football player or a dancer?
25:37
Because the football player is not working for me.
25:41
And you know, to think that guys, I know it's a different
25:43
era and I may sound like a old fogey Stony, but you know, these
25:46
guys go out of their way to plan these things that they do in the
25:52
where they could be catching balls from the ball machine or
25:54
something. But no, they want to practice.
25:56
But you know, it's all about self marketing, I guess on
25:59
social media and whatnot. I just don't get it.
26:02
I'm old school. I don't think you're old school.
26:04
I even me if I'm, if I'm playing in the NFL and I'm I'm trying to
26:08
make a statement, I'm going to make sure I like, I'm going to
26:10
be like Calvin Johnson. Did you see Calvin Johnson dance
26:13
around the football field? As soon as he scored a
26:15
touchdown, he hand the ball right to the referee and he ran
26:19
to the sidelines. I never seen Calvin Johnson one
26:23
time ever in his career, ever dance when he scored a
26:27
touchdown, ever. I don't.
26:29
I've I've never seen it. If somebody can find a video,
26:33
I'll pay you $1000. You find a video right now of
26:37
Calvin Johnson when he scores a touchdown doing some kind of
26:39
crazy, stupid dance, I will pay you guys $1000.
26:43
You could send it to me. I promise you, you could book
26:46
it. I will send you $1000 because
26:48
I've never seen it and I'm I follow Calvin Johnson.
26:51
And people always ask me, Baker, what was your touchdown dance?
26:54
I said, first of all, I'm the rhythmless brother.
26:56
I can't rhythm. I don't have any rhythm.
26:59
So I never did dance or anything.
27:01
But I did spike the ball on occasion because defensive backs
27:04
were talking a lot, a lot of noise, but never showboating and
27:08
trying to show them up like these kids do today, man.
27:11
But you know, it's a different ball game and the coaches allow
27:14
it because their jobs are on the line.
27:16
And if these kids don't perform, they lose their jobs.
27:19
So that I guess they let them get away with it all.
27:21
Right, Steven, last question for me.
27:23
And we're going to let you go and I would love to get you on
27:25
again and we'll have a lot of fun with you.
27:27
And the next time you come on, we'll have job on.
27:30
Job was moving right now he's moving three houses.
27:33
His father passed away so he's moving all the stuff out of his.
27:36
Father's house. Yeah, he's he's if you know
27:39
anybody that knows the Jabba story, his father was very, very
27:42
important, very, very close with him.
27:44
He was everything them. And his father passed away about
27:46
a year ago. And Jabba's been dealing with
27:49
that and, and trying to get, you know, his life together from it.
27:52
So it's hard. I I lost my father nine years
27:56
ago. So I know all about that.
27:57
They all up there high fiving each other today man.
27:59
Absolutely. All right.
28:01
Top running backs of all time. And I and, and I know there's
28:04
that. I saw a picture recently and it
28:06
had Barry Sanders sitting in the crowd.
28:08
He had Walter Payton bowing down to him, OJ Simpson and I think
28:14
Emmett Smith and somebody else. Who do you think?
28:17
Oh, oh, I'm sorry, Brown. Also, who do you think is the
28:21
best running back of all time? You know, that is such a hard
28:26
question. Man, I want to.
28:27
I want to ask you. I want to ask you.
28:29
I know. All right.
28:31
Well, I'm going to. I can't answer that because for
28:34
excitement it was Barry Sanders, all right?
28:37
Walter Payton, Sweetness, man. I used to hold the ball like him
28:40
in college until I got to the pros and Parcells cussed me out
28:44
and told me not to hold it like that anymore.
28:46
On current returns, Jim Brown, I'll never get the great John
28:50
Fassinder when he says if you, I don't know if you guys know who
28:53
John Fassinder is. He's known as the voice of God.
28:57
And the way he narrated, he was like, I thought Superman was
29:01
white and lived in New York City, but I found out he's black
29:04
and he's from Cleveland. And that was Jim Brown, bro.
29:06
And Jim Brown was everybody was targeting it and they knew he
29:10
was getting the ball and they still couldn't stop him.
29:12
So I used to say to myself, little as I was, I said I'm a
29:16
run like Jim Brown and Walter Payton and those were my 2
29:20
heroes. Do you know where, Jim?
29:22
Do you know where Jim Brown's from?
29:25
I know he went to Syracuse. Do you know where he's from?
29:28
Do you know where he he was born?
29:30
No. Right here.
29:33
Long Island, New York. No way.
29:35
Yes, he was. Long Island, New York.
29:38
Yes, he was. He's from Long Island, New York.
29:41
You could look that. Up, I got an I will.
29:42
I got another tidbit for you. You know lacrosse, right?
29:45
He played. You know why they twirl it like
29:48
this? No.
29:50
Jim Brown used to pin that thing to his chest and run all the
29:54
way. And they made the rule.
29:56
Yeah, Google it. They had to.
29:57
I'll look at it right now. Wow, really.
30:00
OK. Look it up.
30:04
But now Jim Brown was a beast, man.
30:06
I really respected his game. I love those old highlights.
30:09
I actually still watch those highlights, man.
30:11
Listening to John. Yeah.
30:12
Now with the advent of AI, I always wanted John Fassinder to
30:17
say my name. I'm going to figure out how to
30:19
do it because they did it with Saquan Barkley.
30:21
John Fassinder narrated his touchdown in the playoffs in the
30:24
snow. Just so everybody knows, he
30:26
played in high school at Manhasset.
30:28
He is from Long Island, New York.
30:30
Jim Brown from Manhasset High School here in New York.
30:36
Okay, so, so just just a little titbit for you guys.
30:39
If he didn't know about Jim Brown, he is from Long Island.
30:42
So one of the greatest runbacks of all time.
30:44
And by the way, you know, somebody, a basketball player
30:47
that came from, played for Roosevelt, you know, I'm talking
30:49
about, I do not Doctor Jay is from Long Island, too.
30:53
Out of here, Doctor. Jay is from Long Island.
30:55
Yes he is. Wow, yes he is.
30:57
Wow, I didn't know. That played for Roosevelt, Yes,
30:59
he did. I gotta throw you some current
31:02
curveballs, man. I want to help you out, you
31:04
know. And I take it you're from Long
31:06
Island? I am from Long Island.
31:08
Yes, I am born and raised, baby born and raised.
31:11
I've been all over the world, but born and raised.
31:14
But Steve, we really appreciate you, man, and I think you're
31:18
such a great personality. I mean, some of your takes and
31:21
your tidbits are just fantastic. You, you really do.
31:24
This is something that you should definitely look into
31:26
doing. I think you have the personality
31:28
to do it. No, thank you man.
31:30
And you guys are great too. It feels like I'm just talking
31:33
to you guys like we're just couple of guys talking sports,
31:36
man. And I, I love it.
31:37
I'm, I'm not just wearing this because I'm on here today.
31:40
I wear my New York Giants stuff every freaking day, offseason or
31:44
on season. So thank you very much and you
31:47
guys continued success and I'm always here for you.
31:50
You're the man. Thank you, Steven.
31:52
And by the way, I'm not a Giant fan, but I'm a fan of you.
31:55
So if, if you know what I might do, I might buy a Giant jersey
31:59
with your name on it. No, I'll, I'll call, I'll I'll
32:03
get your nickname put on the back of it the touchdown maker.
32:06
All right. Well, I will send you a jersey,
32:09
how about that? That sounds good to me.
32:11
I would love it, and I will. I'll give it to you.
32:15
Sign it up. I'll frame it.
32:16
I'll put it in the studio. You got it buddy.
32:20
You're the man and and we'll get together one of these days when
32:24
you come back to New York, we'll get together and we would love
32:26
it. And Jabba, you know, we're going
32:28
to be doing something at Carmine's sometime in the
32:30
holiday. Maybe we'll get you to come down
32:32
and and do a live interview for the giant fans at Carmine's, eat
32:35
some dinner, you bring your wife and we'll hang out.
32:38
Now where's Carmine's at? Carmine's in Atlantic City,
32:40
Manhattan. Manhattan.
32:43
Yes, I've never been to that one.
32:45
Yeah, so it's very, it's very well known.
32:47
So we, we, we just had we had the world's famous chef from,
32:51
you know, the chef from Carmine's on the show last week
32:54
and I kind of pitched it to him and he was like, done, let's do
32:58
it. So and I said we'll bring some
33:00
guests, we'll bring some guests. So why not bring some ex Giants,
33:03
some ex Yankees and show up and and and have a fun time with the
33:08
fans and, and give away some giveaways and have just fun.
33:11
You know that's what we want. To do sounds fine to me.
33:13
Please keep me informed. Absolutely.
33:15
Thank you, Steven. All right, take it easy, speedy.
33:19
Thanks man, always fun having you having fun having you man.
33:23
Love the ring? You have them.
33:25
You have them stuttering Steven, I know what you did to him.
33:27
I mean, it's like. It's the gaming chair, clearly.
33:33
It's really the gaming chair. Why You play games?
33:36
You play video games. Oh no, y'all don't play games,
33:39
do you? I'm I'm PS five.
33:40
I got I got I play Madden, I play Call of Duty, I play World
33:46
of Warcraft. I got a gaming PC.
33:49
I I'm a hardcore gamer real talk.
33:52
Well. You definitely look like one,
33:54
that's for damn sure. Stephen Banker, ladies and
34:00
gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, New York Giants.
34:03
Fantastic. The touchdown maker, I call him
34:08
the play shaker. How's that?
34:10
I like it. I love it.
34:11
He's shaking and baking well. He's not going to do it on the
34:13
football field, but he'll do it off the football field there.
34:16
You go in Madden, come see me. There you go.
34:19
Come and see him and he's like, he's like ranked 95 on his game.
34:24
The touchdown maker is ranked 95.
34:26
He made sure he's ranked 95 anyway.
34:29
And make sure not to celebrate the touchdown.
34:33
He'll just bow. He'll just bow down, give up a
34:36
curtsy, give him a little curtsy.
34:38
But he's fantastic. He's really, really fantastic.
34:42
He was a great get Speedy, good job.
34:45
I like it. Now that was Nathan.
34:46
That was Nathan's get. That was Nathan's get.
34:48
He's fantastic. He was fantastic.
34:51
He was really, really good. Great personality and straight
34:56
to the point. And dude, he didn't hold back on
34:58
anything we asked him. He pretty much gave you an
35:01
answer and he he gave it. He stuck it right to us.
35:04
He stuck it to me, that's for damn sure.
35:06
But thank you to Stephen Baker. I really appreciate him for
35:09
joining us. And unfortunately we didn't have
35:11
job up because job is moving, but that was a great interview.
35:15
Definitely one of my favorite ones we've had in a while.
35:17
So thank you to Stephen Baker. I really appreciate you and
35:21
looking forward to getting him. If we if we really do the
35:23
Carmine thing and I think we're going to work on that, we should
35:27
definitely reach out to Steven and have him come out and hang
35:31
out with us. I think he'd have a lot of fun
35:32
with us. So it'll be fun.
35:36
How about you fish? Not so many people are going to
35:38
turn down some Carmine's, you know.
35:39
No, not at all. You know, my Britney was telling
35:42
me the other day she's like, that's not a place to do
35:45
something like this. I say, well, it is going to be a
35:47
place for this. We're going to make it a place.
35:50
You know, we'll, we'll find a way to make it make it happen.
35:53
You know what I mean? Like.
35:54
We'll make it a, we'll make it a place.
35:56
We'll make it a place, I promise.
35:58
So it's definitely something and I think they'll have a lot of
36:02
fun with us and, and you know, Jabba's not.
36:04
Would you sing like any like Italian?
36:07
Like ballads? Do you want me to scare people
36:09
away? Well, I'm just saying, you know,
36:11
like you do grab the mic very often when we go out.
36:15
Yes, You know, I, I, I think that, you know, there would be
36:19
some standards that need to be sung at a place like.
36:22
Dude, I first of all, I just want to let everybody know that
36:25
I did a wedding. I did 2 weddings this weekend
36:27
and I broke it down Saturday night at this wedding at the
36:32
contour hall. And my boy, yes, if he's
36:35
listening, James, DJ, we killed it.
36:38
I was breaking. I was doing all crazy stuff.
36:41
I was doing a robot. I was doing some crazy, crazy.
36:44
I'm a dancer, man. I love to dance.
36:46
So if if there's a dance floor and I can entertain people, I'm
36:49
going to do it. So that's all I'm going to say
36:51
about that. All right, ladies and gentlemen
36:53
are save your tears Compliments. Mom, what's one thing?
36:59
That you can't talk to me about my sexual fantasies?
37:02
No, no say your sorry. It is not ideal.
37:06
But if it's what means it is not ideal.
37:08
But if it is not ideal. But if it is, what means?
37:11
You get trouble standing double stamp.
37:12
You can't dribble stamp a double stamp, Lloyd, you can't dribble
37:14
stamp a double stamp. But but you guys, now it's time
37:21
for save your tear. All right, guys, welcome to Save
37:28
Your Tears, the results round on Monday.
37:32
We call this the compliment chorus because we're going to
37:35
say who won Week 6's action shortly and everyone who lost,
37:41
starting with the lowest finisher ending with our second
37:43
place finisher. We'll give 51% genuine
37:48
compliments to the winner, even if they are not currently here
37:52
with us in the studio. It'll be recorded for posterity.
37:56
So here we go. Week 6 action.
37:59
If you just take a look at the board, we already know who did
38:01
well and who didn't. Kyler Murray was substituted for
38:03
Jacoby Brissett. The only guy I couldn't
38:05
substitute was Chris Godwin, who went out late.
38:08
If you took Godwin, you got a big zero this week.
38:11
Jonathan Taylor had a big. Week so to see.
38:14
I got a big zero too. Egg Buca had a couple of catches
38:17
in the game before he went down. Travis Hunter just kind of
38:21
sucked. That wasn't that he didn't.
38:23
He went down, he just kind of sucked and these backup, these
38:27
tight ends did pretty well. Once again, it's a pretty loaded
38:31
position. So let's see the results of save
38:34
your tears. Jabba Chamberlain is the winner
38:39
of week sixes Save Your Tears. Speedy PD came in second,
38:43
followed by our intern Jared, who also couldn't join us
38:45
tonight in. I came in last.
38:48
I came in fourth. Kazak Buka.
38:49
Tommy came in fifth and Errol. This is going to damage your
38:55
FedEx Cup standings a little bit.
38:58
Here came in last place, which means that you get to go first
39:03
with your video. Note to 1 Mr. Jabba Chamberlain
39:08
for his first place finish here in Week 6.
39:12
All right, Jabba, over the last couple of months, we've built a
39:17
good friendship and relationship.
39:19
You're kind when you want to be. You're a pain in the ass all the
39:23
time. But All in all, the personality
39:26
that you bring to this show and the weight that you've lost and
39:31
everything that you do inside and out when it comes to
39:34
baseball and your quality of takes with baseball is superb.
39:38
Congratulations, this will be the last time you win.
39:46
All right, up next, Tommy. Scoops.
39:49
All right, Mr. Chamberlain, Congrats.
39:51
Congrats, Congrats. Is this Jabba's first time
39:53
winning? The first time I think since I
39:55
started this, I think he won the first or second one in the
39:57
beginning, very beginning. OK, so it's been a while.
40:00
Way, way back when, when was we were doing basketball or
40:03
something? Yeah.
40:03
OK, well, hey, Jabba, man, you did it.
40:06
You know you haven't. You haven't been holding the
40:08
crown for a minute. But now you reigned supreme, you
40:10
know? And it sucks that you were over
40:12
there moving your stuff. You got to do what you got to
40:14
do. And hey, you did what you had to
40:17
do for save your. Tears.
40:18
So did what you had to do, what you had to do do do.
40:22
You know what I'm saying? But yeah, there we go.
40:24
So Congrats, Mr. Jabba Chamberlain really, really came
40:27
through on this one. Suck my indo Doo Doo.
40:31
All right. Ass Licker.
40:33
Blowjob I am next, Jabba, as you know I'm and I think you embody
40:41
this mantra that my football coach always said to us in a
40:44
heavy Boston accent. Dare to be different.
40:48
Dare to be great. And that's what you did as an
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athlete. I need to blow up.
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Yankees and that's what you did here when you selected Rashad
40:56
White running back. What a great move.
40:59
No one else took Brian Thomas junior, You did.
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You made to. You were daring and then you
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went into a Cooper Cup who had great numbers.
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I got the bubble in this game outpacing almost everyone else.
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I'll let those kind of choices that brought you to the top
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daring like a serial killer daring to be great.
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Who's up next? We are now up to our no Jared.
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So we're just going to go straight to Speedy to.
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Wrap it up. So, Java, congratulations on
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your first football. Makes my picker.
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Save your tears. Win.
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There was no coin necessary. It was all straight intelligence
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making some bold moves. Like Fish was saying, I didn't
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like Ryan. Thomas at the price.
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I didn't like Brian Thomas at the price of $4.00 at the time,
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but you are smarted us all sabermetric nerds as as you like
41:49
to say all during our baseball segment and that was the
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difference between you and me. We had a lot of the similar
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picks, but I went with Pittman. Who I got to go back off.
41:56
Fall this week and you took it to the top with Brian Thomas
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Junior along with Errol's guy Danny Dimes and Triumph with all
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the great Nebraska food that you smell my ass and all the great
42:08
luxury things that you could have moving into that new House
42:12
of yours. Congratulations.
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On how you're moving, good luck with all your moving.
42:15
Process and you are a well deserved savior Tears champion.
42:18
Wow, you you, you guys Droba droba ass liquor.
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We will be back on Wednesday for Week 7's action.
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Droba, save your tears. Droba Jabba takes it up the ass.
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That's it for our show. Shout out to Jabba.
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He's moving three houses. He he actually showed up for a
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little bit of the baseball segment.
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So thank you to Jabba. He he definitely popped right in
42:47
and popped right out. Thank you to my goodster big
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part of our show every single week.
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Goodies, bag of balls. I appreciate you.
42:55
I know you're busy daddy and you're you're doing so many
42:59
things and I'm going to shoot you a call tomorrow.
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As as you always know, I'm definitely going to shoot you a
43:04
call tomorrow. But it was a great, great show.
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Thank you to all the fans on social media, Speedy, it's
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speedy was telling me our numbers are driving right now.
43:14
It's been incredible. So say thank you to all the fans
43:17
tuning in and listening to us and tuning into us on all the
43:21
platforms. I don't have to name it.
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You know what platforms you're following us and we'll be back
43:27
on Wednesday. Who do we have coming on all?
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Right. Speaking of some SEC football,
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we have a former SEC football Player of the year, also was an
43:32
NFL quarterback. He played for Washington, the
43:34
readers, the Bears and one other team I forget offhand, Jason
43:36
Campbell will be joining the show.
43:38
He now does Auburn Radio, radio broadcasting as well, and as a
43:41
podcast on the Believe Network as well, which is the same as
43:44
what our friend Bilal Powell. Has.
43:45
Yeah. And just so everybody knows, we
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were asked to go on the Believe network and I decided two years
43:51
ago, me and Speedy, I decided not to go on the believe network
43:54
because I didn't like their offer.
43:56
We were going to talk a little Nick's basketball at that point,
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but believe is doing some amazing things or a good podcast
44:04
organization, a big organization.
44:05
And they've got a lot of guys just like Blue wire with us.
44:08
And thank you to Nick because Nick, Nick was behind all of
44:12
that and, and, and getting us the hook up with Blue Wire and,
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and thank you to Blue Wire as well for letting us shout out to
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Kyle. I reached out to Kyle today.
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He was sensational. Thank you to Kyle for, you know,
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obviously reaching back to me. So yeah, we'll be back on
44:27
Wednesday and we're looking forward to it.
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So as everybody knows. Suck my indo.
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Good night everybody. It is the worldwide sports radio
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network.