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October 13, 2025 (Hour 1) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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  Speaker 1: Happy eighty fourth birthday to the great Paul riven Simon.
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  Speaker 1: Glad to have you with us here on a Monday,
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  Speaker 1: brought to you by Central Texas Sports Medicine. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: hear a little bit from Mike Elco at the bottom
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  Speaker 1: of this hour. Skip hollins Where joins us. He is
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  Speaker 1: always a treat true cut crime author reporter for Texas Monthly.
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  Speaker 1: His latest book is called She Kills. It's a compilation
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  Speaker 1: of stories he has done over the last forty years
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  Speaker 1: on women murderers. Skip Hollinsworth will join us, and we've
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  Speaker 1: got the Writer's Roundtable coming your way in the second
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  Speaker 1: hour of the program. Ah man, thank you, though, I
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  Speaker 1: just have to have that. I don't know what happened
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  Speaker 1: to those things good things. I don't have cheap pins.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I do have cheap pins. I couldn't stand
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  Speaker 1: having expensive pins because they just disappeared. But that's neither
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  Speaker 1: here nor there. Mike Elcho announcing today that Leveon Moss
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  Speaker 1: will miss, in his words, a significant period of time
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  Speaker 1: with an angle injury. Elko says the injury is unrelated
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  Speaker 1: to the knee that kept him out last year. He's
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  Speaker 1: going to have it looked at. We'll kind of figure
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  Speaker 1: it out. It certainly, says ilk will not end this season,
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  Speaker 1: but it's going to be a significant amount of time.
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  Speaker 1: Dan Hayes has been named the co defensive Lineman of
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  Speaker 1: the Week for the Aggies win over Florida. He was
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  Speaker 1: he was pretty good, had a strip, sack, fumble recovery.
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  Speaker 1: Hayes had the team's top defensive grade according to Pro
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  Speaker 1: Football Focus at ninety one, and log the top grade
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  Speaker 1: on pass rush snaps at ninety two point three. Kickoff
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  Speaker 1: time has been set for the Aggies and LSU at
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  Speaker 1: Death Valley, and of course it's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: night game. It'll be on ABC for a six thirty
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  Speaker 1: kickoff on the twenty fifth. This coming week, A and
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  Speaker 1: M is innam to take on Arkansas at twoint thirty
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  Speaker 1: on EESPD. Let's see what else do we need to know?
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  Speaker 1: That's enough for that. After a week of chaos surrounding
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina football program, a week I think it's been
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  Speaker 1: all year, Bill Belichick says, reports of my looking for
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  Speaker 1: a buyout or trying to leave her categorically faults. There's
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  Speaker 1: zero truth to any of that. I'm glad I'm here.
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  Speaker 1: We're working toward our goals. We believe very much in
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  Speaker 1: the process. We need to keep working and grinding, and
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  Speaker 1: that's exactly what we're doing. A little bit unusual that
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  Speaker 1: attending the news conference today was the Chancellor Lee Roberts,
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  Speaker 1: the athletic director Bubba Cunningham, and a host of other
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  Speaker 1: high level administrators. Meanwhile, the speculation game is in full
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  Speaker 1: force with James Franklin being forced out over the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Matt Rule is the name that keeps coming up. It's
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  Speaker 1: his alma mater. Let's see, I absolutely love it. Here,
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  Speaker 1: he said of Nebraska. I want us to continue to
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  Speaker 1: take the steps needed for us to turn this thing
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  Speaker 1: into a beast. Players all across the country want to
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  Speaker 1: come here. We have the best facilities, we have elite fans.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the future. I love this place. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see all right, Mariners, blue Jays underway in the top
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  Speaker 1: of the first with the big dumper on deck. Last
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  Speaker 1: night he rushed one and the Mariners took care of
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  Speaker 1: the blue Jays. And by the way, who is it
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  Speaker 1: in the Major League office that thought this was a
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  Speaker 1: great schedule for the Mariners to play Saturday night, fly
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  Speaker 1: across the country, get in at five or six am
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  Speaker 1: Sunday morning, and play a game last night, in a
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  Speaker 1: game this afternoon before the Dodgers and Brewers ever played
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  Speaker 1: Game one. Who comes up with this stuff? Man? I
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  Speaker 1: would be upset if I were a member of the
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  Speaker 1: Mariners organization. But unfortunately for them, they're the Mariners. They're
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  Speaker 1: not the Yankees. The Yankees would not have played that schedule.
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  Speaker 1: Padres about out early a postseason. And today San Diego
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  Speaker 1: skipper Mike Schildt, who has managed a team for a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years. In two years, two pair of two
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  Speaker 1: postseason appearances is leaving. He said the baseball grind has
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  Speaker 1: taken a severe toll on him. Mike, I know what
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  Speaker 1: you mean. This radio grind takes a severe toll on me.
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  Speaker 1: But hey, we got to keep going out there. A
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  Speaker 1: judge in Downtown Brian has ruled in favor of Rashaan
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  Speaker 1: Ag and granted a temporary restraining order for him to
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  Speaker 1: be able to play for A and M this year.
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  Speaker 1: There seems to be not much of a chance that
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  Speaker 1: they be able to set a trial date before the
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  Speaker 1: end of the season, which means they picked the right
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  Speaker 1: judge in the right venue to get a Texas A
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  Speaker 1: and M basketball player granted a tro to play for
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  Speaker 1: Texas A and M this year. Ag on the stand
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  Speaker 1: said he stands to make one point two million dollars
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  Speaker 1: this season. Pretty good schoons.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, he also said he'd make zero dollars if
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  Speaker 1: he didn't play well. Duh. The media that covers SEC
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  Speaker 1: basketball predicted a finish like this number sixteen, South Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: number fifteen, LSU number fourteen, Georgia number thirteen, Texas A
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  Speaker 1: and M number twelve, Oklahoma eleven, Vanderbilt ten, Mississippi, State nine,
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  Speaker 1: Tech is eight, Ole Mess seven, Missouri six, Auburn five,
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  Speaker 1: Arkansas four, Alabama three, Tennessee two, Kentucky and the defending
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  Speaker 1: national champs Florida. First team All SEC Alex Condon. He'll
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  Speaker 1: be one hundred and three years old when the season
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  Speaker 1: starts next month. Josh Hubbard Otago Away of Kentucky to
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  Speaker 1: Hode Pettiford. He'll be one hundred and two when the
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  Speaker 1: season starts this next month at Auburn and Laberon Philon
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  Speaker 1: junior at Alabama. Player of the Year otego Away No
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  Speaker 1: Aggie's on the first three teams, and the AP Top
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  Speaker 1: twenty five College Basketball poll is out. The Purdue boiler
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  Speaker 1: Makers won the fighting Kelvin Sampson's two, Florida, Yukon four,
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  Speaker 1: the Johnnies five, Duke six, What's wrong with Duke six?
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  Speaker 1: Michigan BYU, Kentucky, Texas Tech, Arkansas's at fourteen, Alabama's at fifteen,
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee is at eighteen, Auburn is at twenty. So a
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  Speaker 1: nice representation, not quite what it was last year, but
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  Speaker 1: a nice representation for the SEC to start the season. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to take a break. I'm going to come back.
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  Speaker 6: I'm Kerry Murphy with your NASCAR Cup Series race recap
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  Speaker 6: from Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Take in a look.
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  Speaker 1: Ten to one.
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  Speaker 6: You got Brad Keslowski, Ryan Priest, Kyle Busch somehow finishes eighth,
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  Speaker 6: Alex Bowman, Joey Logano, Tyler Reddick, number five, Chase Briscoe,
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  Speaker 6: Christopher Bell three, Kyle Larson comes up one spot short
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  Speaker 6: of the win. Denny Hamlin goes to victory Lane, picking
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  Speaker 6: up his sixth win this season, sixtieth career win, and
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  Speaker 6: punches his ticket to the Championship four race at Phoenix,
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  Speaker 6: tied with Kevin Harvick tenth on the all time wins list,
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  Speaker 6: as well other stories on the day. William Byron led
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  Speaker 6: thirty nine laps on the day to win Stage one
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  Speaker 6: and his teammate Kyle Larson picked up the Stage two win.
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  Speaker 6: Ryan Blaney hit the wall hard from a blown tire
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  Speaker 6: with ab eight laps to go in stage one. His
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  Speaker 6: twelve car was done for the day. Chase Elliott was
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  Speaker 6: busted for an uncontrolled tire on Pitt Road as it
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  Speaker 6: rolled away from the team. Kyle Larson passed one thousand
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  Speaker 6: laps led here in twenty twenty five thirty one laps
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  Speaker 6: to go a massive wreck when William Byron slammed into
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  Speaker 6: the back of Ty Dylan at full speed. Byron had
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  Speaker 6: no idea after leading fifty five laps on the day.
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  Speaker 6: The twenty four car was obliterated big wreck on the
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  Speaker 7: For the sixth on the Zone.
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  Speaker 1: Friday's Fair Football Forecast Contest, We're gonna go out to
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  Speaker 1: the players Fun Center phone line and visit with the
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  Speaker 1: week seven weekly winner, a former season winner with his
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  Speaker 1: name engraved on the cop and one of the few
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  Speaker 1: ever to post a win for the regular season and
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  Speaker 1: a win for the bowl season in the same year.
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  Speaker 1: He has Buck Anderson. Buck, you've been away too long.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I didn't know all that. Thanks for calling.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's been it's been eleven years, so you would
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  Speaker 1: have forgotten all of that.
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  Speaker 13: Easily.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I had to look on the trophy to
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  Speaker 1: get the twenty fourteen on.
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  Speaker 3: There, so that's when it was fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it just seems like yesterday, didn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, not much has happened between them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, now you hadn't had anything happened between then and
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  Speaker 1: now none us have no How you doing?
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing all right?
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  Speaker 6: Man?
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  Speaker 3: How are you got?
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  Speaker 1: We're hanging in Uh? Yeah, So I haven't called your name, Buck.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's been a while, and I know you've been
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  Speaker 1: pretty consistent playing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I play every year. I think I've played every
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  Speaker 3: year since I moved a conversation in six and nice.
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  Speaker 3: I looked at my records and it said the first
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  Speaker 3: one was in eight. Okay, guys, and then we played
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  Speaker 3: the tap a lot. Yeah didn't there?
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  Speaker 1: Yep? I mean you you were like the picking guru
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  Speaker 1: of the Brasis Valley.
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  Speaker 3: I have a peach too early, apparently, although my talk
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  Speaker 3: picked up an acron this week.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, how are you doing overall this year?
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  Speaker 3: I'm about in your field. This last weekend was good.
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  Speaker 3: I moved up to about twenty eth.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, I'm not even close.
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  Speaker 3: I was losing every game, possibly to the weirdest thing,
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  Speaker 3: but that's the way it goes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm just I've been terrible, Buck, No, no,
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  Speaker 1: this is a hard year. Well, if I've got a
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  Speaker 1: champion telling me it's a hard year, it must be
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  Speaker 1: a hard year. So that helps a little bit. So
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  Speaker 1: I know you're out of town, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: give you a restaurant gift certificate from here, although I
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  Speaker 1: know you will come in every now and then. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to give you Buck. I know you're a reader, yes,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going to give you a book that I
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  Speaker 1: just loved. It's called Baddest Man, The Making of Mike
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  Speaker 1: Tyson by Mark Kriegle.
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  Speaker 4: Love it.
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  Speaker 6: It is.
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  Speaker 1: Really an interesting read.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to get that in the mail to you. Okay. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if you come back and win the trophy this year,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna have to find a day to present it
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  Speaker 1: to you.
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  Speaker 3: I will gladly make the trip. I actually go through
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  Speaker 3: there often when I'm going to Houston. Yeah, I need
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  Speaker 3: to be on that side of town. But I've come
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  Speaker 3: for lots of reasons. I love coming to college.
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  Speaker 1: Tex Buck Anderson is our Week seven winner. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: he was nine and one. The one game he missed
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  Speaker 1: I thought was the only sure shot of the whole
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  Speaker 1: weekend in the.
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  Speaker 3: End, and organ me too.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I thought that was just like this is
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  Speaker 1: why I don't bet sports, bod Yeah, I mean what happened,
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  Speaker 1: And man, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That was a crazy game. And I you know, I
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  Speaker 3: got lucky on a couple of ones. The Cowboys I
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  Speaker 3: got lucky on. And I'll pick pictures sometimes just to
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  Speaker 3: feel good about going to Ted because if they lose
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  Speaker 3: I'm still okay, sorry about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I just lost almost every game I picked
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  Speaker 1: this last week, Buck, so I'm glad to give you
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  Speaker 1: this book. It's good to catch up. One of these
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  Speaker 1: days you need to call me and we'll get this
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  Speaker 1: in the mail to you.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks man, I appreciate it. You have a hell hodel
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  Speaker 3: the game for me.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Buck. All right, Buddy, Buck Anderson Week seven winner.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's on the week eight. We don't stop around here.
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  Speaker 1: You taught BYU The Holy War is the tie breaker.
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  Speaker 1: Brenham Rudder Hendrickson Console LSU, Vanderbilt, Oh, Miss Georgia, USC,
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  Speaker 1: Notre Day Baylor, TCU.
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  Speaker 14: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Those schools do not like each other, the Baptists and
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  Speaker 1: the Christians. They hate each other. SMU Clemson. SMU has
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  Speaker 1: the longest ACC Conference winning streak at eighteen games. Bet
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  Speaker 1: you didn't know that an l Arkansas had Washington in Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: Remember when they used to be the Redskins and that
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  Speaker 1: was a fun rivalry. Yeah barely, all right. Friday's fairless
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  Speaker 1: and Chad Jones Law. Okay, enough of that, let's get
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  Speaker 1: to today. Coach Elko visits with the media on Mondays
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  Speaker 1: after games. We carry it live on the Zone. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to carry part of what he had to say today,
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  Speaker 1: including I believe this section talks about the Levy on
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  Speaker 1: Moss injury. And then at about fifteen minutes we're going
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  Speaker 1: to visit with Skip Hollandsworth and his new book, She
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  Speaker 1: Kills Question on the Zone.
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  Speaker 10: Great, thanks for coming out, you know, recapping the Florida game.
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  Speaker 4: Start with our players of the week.
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  Speaker 10: Scout Team Defensive Player of the Week was Tommy Colligan.
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  Speaker 10: Scout Team Offensive Player of the Week was offensive lineman
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  Speaker 10: Nelson Maguire and really kind of a shout out to
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  Speaker 10: our entire offensive line scout group. Those kids are doing
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  Speaker 10: a phenomenal job with our weekly practices. They've had a
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  Speaker 10: really really strong three weeks. And then Aiden Herrera was
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  Speaker 10: our Special Teams Player of the Week Lineman of the Week. Offensively,
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  Speaker 10: we gave it to the entire offensive line and I
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  Speaker 10: thought that was probably the most complete offensive line performance
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  Speaker 10: that we've had since I've been here, and so it
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  Speaker 10: was hard to single out one guy. We played penalty free,
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  Speaker 10: we played sack free, we played TfL free we ran
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  Speaker 10: the ball for over one hundred and eighty yards, and
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  Speaker 10: so we just kind of gave it to the whole group.
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  Speaker 10: Defensive Lineman of the Week and also the sec CO
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  Speaker 10: Defensive Lineman of the Week was Dayon Hayes. And then
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  Speaker 10: in terms of players of the week on offense, we
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  Speaker 10: went with Nate Borkicher. You know, obviously had a couple
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  Speaker 10: of big catches and those were key, but some of
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  Speaker 10: the things that he did late in the game in
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  Speaker 10: the run game, in terms of setting edges and establishing
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  Speaker 10: some push at the line of scrimmage really helped solve
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  Speaker 10: that game away. Defensively, we went with Albert Regis, who
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  Speaker 10: just continues to be an unhralded force in the middle,
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  Speaker 10: extremely difficult to block in the run game, got involved
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  Speaker 10: with a sack and caused fumble as well.
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  Speaker 4: And then Special Teams Player of the Week was Tyler White.
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  Speaker 10: Thought he hit some critical punts and I thought the
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  Speaker 10: one he hit at the end of the half when
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  Speaker 10: we were pinned back and they had a chance to
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  Speaker 10: get points on the board going in halftime, he had
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  Speaker 10: a fifty one yarder that they had to fair catch.
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  Speaker 10: I thought that was a really big moment in the
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  Speaker 10: game and a really big punt, and so you know,
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  Speaker 10: it's not a whole lot different than we talked about
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  Speaker 10: after the game. I thought we played a complete, balanced game.
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  Speaker 10: I thought we was the first time where you know,
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  Speaker 10: we went from from good to bad to good, and
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  Speaker 10: those things are good signs. You know, when things are
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  Speaker 10: good and you stay good, you know that obviously happens.
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  Speaker 10: But when you can, you know, have some adversity on
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  Speaker 10: defense and then straighten it out and finish the right way,
• 20:35
  Speaker 10: when you can start well on offense, have some adversity
• 20:38
  Speaker 10: and then find a way to put the game away.
• 20:40
  Speaker 10: And I think those things are all good signs of
• 20:43
  Speaker 10: growth and kind of where we're headed. And then just
• 20:45
  Speaker 10: the thing that I'm probably most proud of, just that
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: you put numbers on this, is that we finished the game.
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: You know, we outscored them ten to nothing in the
• 20:52
  Speaker 10: fourth quarter. I thought we were the stronger team down
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: the stretch, and you know, they go for it on
• 20:58
  Speaker 10: a fourth and six.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Stop them.
• 21:01
  Speaker 10: We run twenty of the next twenty one plays and
• 21:04
  Speaker 10: eat up almost eleven minutes of clock and give them
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: the ball back down seventeen with less than a minute
• 21:10
  Speaker 10: twenty left in the game. And if you can play
• 21:13
  Speaker 10: football like that, you're gonna win a lot of games.
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: And so now it's on to Arkansas, which will be
• 21:18
  Speaker 10: a real tremendous challenge for us.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Offensively, they've been playing elite football.
• 21:23
  Speaker 10: They're averaging over five hundred yards a game, their averaging
• 21:25
  Speaker 10: just under forty points a game. They have the second
• 21:28
  Speaker 10: fewest punts in the conference. They score they score a lot. Obviously,
• 21:33
  Speaker 10: Coach Petrino has done a phenomenal job calling offenses for
• 21:36
  Speaker 10: a really long time. Now as the interim head coach
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: returning to Fayetteville, you can imagine probably the emotion that
• 21:43
  Speaker 10: will be into that game for him and for that team,
• 21:45
  Speaker 10: and so we will get their best Defensively, they made
• 21:48
  Speaker 10: a change in coordinator going into the game last week.
• 21:51
  Speaker 10: Really thought they tried to streamline what they were doing,
• 21:55
  Speaker 10: put their kids in a position where they could be
• 21:57
  Speaker 10: confident in what they were doing and play fast. Would
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: anticipate that will continue to get better and better each week,
• 22:03
  Speaker 10: that they get more comfortable with what they're doing, and
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: so we're going to have our handful. Fate Bill is
• 22:08
  Speaker 10: going to be a really challenging place to play. Anytime
• 22:10
  Speaker 10: you go on the road in this conference, it's a
• 22:12
  Speaker 10: big challenge. And so this is going to be a
• 22:15
  Speaker 10: huge challenge for our program to go on and get
• 22:17
  Speaker 10: the next one. And so we'll look forward to a
• 22:19
  Speaker 10: great week of prep and a great opportunity to go
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: out next week and continue this thing moving in the
• 22:24
  Speaker 10: right direction.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: So from there we'll open it up to questions. Coach
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: to the right third row.
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: David Mike.
• 22:30
  Speaker 12: I know it is a big emphasis in the offseason
• 22:32
  Speaker 12: to finish, and if you can elaborate a little bit
• 22:35
  Speaker 12: more on the team's ability to finish fourth quarters defensively
• 22:38
  Speaker 12: and offensively, seem like you're at your best controlling the temple,
• 22:42
  Speaker 12: controlling the game in the.
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: Fourth Yeah, I think that's you know, obviously, I think
• 22:46
  Speaker 10: you've got to give a lot of credit to Timmyrofat
• 22:48
  Speaker 10: and his staff. I think you've got a lot give
• 22:50
  Speaker 10: a lot of credit to our kids in terms of
• 22:53
  Speaker 10: how are they worked in the off season, and then
• 22:55
  Speaker 10: some of it just becomes and we talked about like
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: what comes from winning these games in the fourth quarter?
• 23:01
  Speaker 10: What comes from finding a way to win the game
• 23:03
  Speaker 10: against Notre Dame in the fourth quarter. I think you
• 23:05
  Speaker 10: get a confidence about how you play. And so there's
• 23:09
  Speaker 10: been times in the past where I've been here where
• 23:13
  Speaker 10: even last year quite a few times where it felt
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: real nervy in the fourth quarter and kids weren't certain
• 23:19
  Speaker 10: of what was going to happen. Right now, that field
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: is not there, you know, and we've got to work
• 23:25
  Speaker 10: hard to make sure it stays that way. But like
• 23:28
  Speaker 10: when we get into the fourth quarter, there's a confidence.
• 23:31
  Speaker 10: You can kind of see it on the sideline when
• 23:33
  Speaker 10: we switch from the third to the fourth quarter. There's
• 23:36
  Speaker 10: an energy about it that our guys know that they're
• 23:38
  Speaker 10: going to go into that quarter and be strong and
• 23:40
  Speaker 10: play well. And those are all critical factors to being
• 23:44
  Speaker 10: a winning program. Now again, like we talk all the
• 23:47
  Speaker 10: time like this, you know that's rented, you know, and
• 23:49
  Speaker 10: you've got to pay rent on it every week to
• 23:51
  Speaker 10: give yourself a chance to go do it again. But
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: certainly for the last few games, that has showed itself
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: to be really good.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: We'll stay to the right Carter, Mike, sorry.
• 24:02
  Speaker 15: When you saw the schedule layout initially with heavy home
• 24:07
  Speaker 15: games first half of the season, heavy road games second half,
• 24:10
  Speaker 15: what was your kind of takeaway and do you have
• 24:12
  Speaker 15: a preference on whether you like it that way or
• 24:16
  Speaker 15: if you like it more staggered, where it's kind of
• 24:18
  Speaker 15: off and on.
• 24:19
  Speaker 10: Yeah, No, I mean it's at the end of the day, like,
• 24:23
  Speaker 10: no matter how the schedule shapes out, it's ultimately comes
• 24:27
  Speaker 10: down to how you perform that's gonna shape it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: Had we not handled business on the road in these
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: early games, then the schedule would look extremely daunting and
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: there'd be a lot of question marks around where we are.
• 24:41
  Speaker 10: You know, because we handled the schedule the right way early,
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: there's uncertainty about how we're going to do on the road.
• 24:47
  Speaker 10: You know, you flip it and who knows. It's probably
• 24:50
  Speaker 10: the same conversation. And so at the end of the day,
• 24:53
  Speaker 10: people talk a lot about schedules and scheduled difficulty and
• 24:57
  Speaker 10: you really don't know, and you just have to let
• 24:59
  Speaker 10: it play.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: And I've said this too.
• 25:01
  Speaker 10: You know, there's a lot of conversation about where certain
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: teams in this conference are relative to each other. It's
• 25:11
  Speaker 10: so early to have any idea on any of that,
• 25:14
  Speaker 10: and so you just got to let teams play. You
• 25:16
  Speaker 10: got to get a much bigger sample size, you got
• 25:18
  Speaker 10: to get many more data points to figure out where
• 25:21
  Speaker 10: this whole thing is going to fill out. And so
• 25:23
  Speaker 10: to me, you don't really think like that. You just think, Okay,
• 25:27
  Speaker 10: we've got this game and we got to get ready
• 25:28
  Speaker 10: for it. And you know, the one thing that they
• 25:33
  Speaker 10: at least did was put the bye weeknd. So it's
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: not three straight road games that probably would have been
• 25:38
  Speaker 10: a little bit on the challenging side. Or the distance
• 25:41
  Speaker 10: of road games isn't quite as far as it could be.
• 25:44
  Speaker 10: You know, it's not like we're going out East twice
• 25:46
  Speaker 10: in a row. So to that point, I think probably
• 25:49
  Speaker 10: looked at some of the logistical parts of it and
• 25:51
  Speaker 10: didn't feel like it was that bad.
• 25:53
  Speaker 15: And with Le'Veon Moss, just when do you expect them
• 25:57
  Speaker 15: to be back in any update on his status?
• 25:59
  Speaker 10: Yeahright, I should have started with that. So that is
• 26:03
  Speaker 10: going to be out, probably for a significant period of time.
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: It's it's an unrelated injury to anything that he's been
• 26:08
  Speaker 10: dealing with, has nothing to do with last year, has
• 26:11
  Speaker 10: nothing to do what he'd been.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Dealing with earlier this year.
• 26:14
  Speaker 10: Uh, it's an isolated injury that happened on that tackle.
• 26:18
  Speaker 10: It's an ankle, not a knee, which is which is
• 26:20
  Speaker 10: a really positive sign. He's going to have to go
• 26:24
  Speaker 10: get it looked at and and we'll kind of figure
• 26:26
  Speaker 10: out where it's at. It certainly will not end his season,
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: but it's going to be a significant amount of time.
• 26:33
  Speaker 16: Coach to the left, fourth throw over, Rob Coach, can
• 26:37
  Speaker 16: you talk about the the importance of the depth in
• 26:41
  Speaker 16: at the running back position and and how at the
• 26:43
  Speaker 16: end you're you're just wearing teams down and and and
• 26:46
  Speaker 16: being able to put a fresh back in there and.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: And they're all producing.
• 26:49
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and and it's it's we have a lot of
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: really talented players. It's why we talk a lot about
• 26:55
  Speaker 10: like just being ready. Like you know, again we we
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: always talked to the off. Our guys will tell you
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: I'm fairly blunt and honest when we have these conversations,
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: Like everybody wants the football, you know, and so we
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: go into last week with five tailbacks who all want
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: the ball twenty five times and are probably capable of
• 27:11
  Speaker 10: carrying it twenty five times, but we can't do that, right,
• 27:16
  Speaker 10: and so everybody just has to stay ready. And so
• 27:19
  Speaker 10: you know, all of a sudden, Lev goes down and
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: now has got to be the primary ball carrier, and
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: then that opens up some carries for a Mari and
• 27:26
  Speaker 10: for Jamarian to get in there, and they give us
• 27:28
  Speaker 10: some good runs. You know, Mari converts a third and short,
• 27:31
  Speaker 10: Jamarian converts a third and short, and then he gets
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: into four minute offense at the end of the game,
• 27:36
  Speaker 10: and now you know, we're able to put into a
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: fresh EJ. Smith out there, and we really trust his
• 27:41
  Speaker 10: ball security, and he rips off some some really good
• 27:44
  Speaker 10: runs and he's fresh and ready to go and ready
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: to do his job the way he needs to. And
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: so I think it's a credit to what Trooper Taylor
• 27:51
  Speaker 10: does with that group, and I think it's just a
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: credit to those kids that they just work and they're
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: ready to go when their numbers are called.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: It's Coach Elco a little bit early today and with
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the sad news that levy On Moss is out in
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: his words a significant amount of time but not season ending,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: which like, okay, when you say a significant not a
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: time but not season ending, that kind of looks at
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the Texas game, doesn't it. I mean, you might put
• 28:23
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• 28:26
  Speaker 1: three or four carries and knock off a little rust
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: if he is ready to do that these injuries. Sometimes
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: they have found ways with surgery, which I think to
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: a tongue of Lailoa went through that if I'm not mistaken,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and was back playing, you know pretty quickly. So yeah,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: well we'll see what happens. Hate that he was he
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• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Glad to have you with us here on
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: a Monday. The Writer's roundtable coming up in the second hour,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: but right now we're going to jump out to the
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Player's fund Center phone line and visit with veteran true
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: crime author, writer reporter. It's always great to welcome Skip
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Hollinsworth back. Skip. How are you you know?
• 32:23
  Speaker 13: I was just thinking we haven't done a Aggie murder
• 32:26
  Speaker 13: story in a long time. Are you going on down there?
• 32:31
  Speaker 13: You guys must be getting nicer.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: You're not trying. You're not trying to encourage me, are
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: you no encouragement?
• 32:38
  Speaker 13: Now?
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be part of your stories. I'm
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: just telling you flat out, I do not want to
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: be part of your story.
• 32:44
  Speaker 13: Okay, give up again.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: So in the book, which by the way, the first
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: chapter was released in Texas Monthly today on the millionaire
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: oil man and his his wife found fatally shot at
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: their mansion in Wichita Falls, Bobby and Abby BYRDS, you
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: write that that's kind of where your interest first peaked
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: with this crime stuff. Correct.
• 33:14
  Speaker 13: I was sixteen years old, and I was a whitebred
• 33:17
  Speaker 13: as they come. I didn't even know anybody who had
• 33:19
  Speaker 13: ever been arrested at that point in my life. And
• 33:23
  Speaker 13: I saw that headline on the front page of the
• 33:29
  Speaker 13: wich Selfall's paper and could not fathom that this was
• 33:35
  Speaker 13: happening within three miles of my house. He's one of
• 33:37
  Speaker 13: the richest oilmons in Texas. She was this beauty, a
• 33:41
  Speaker 13: former model, war name and Marcus Close. They had a
• 33:44
  Speaker 13: private jet that they flew from which suffalls to Dallas.
• 33:48
  Speaker 13: You know, classic oilmand lifestyle, And I don't know, I
• 33:53
  Speaker 13: just began to become obsessed because no one seemed to
• 33:56
  Speaker 13: know what had happened. Then the medical examine report came out.
• 34:00
  Speaker 13: It was that she had shot him and then turned
• 34:03
  Speaker 13: the gun on herself and shot herself. And so here
• 34:07
  Speaker 13: was this murder suicide that bewildered, trans terrified and transfixed everybody,
• 34:15
  Speaker 13: including me, and never solved.
• 34:19
  Speaker 17: Never.
• 34:20
  Speaker 13: Wow, somebody's got to know. But fifty years later, no
• 34:24
  Speaker 13: one's telling me about it.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: And most of those people who are alive skip aren't
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: with us anymore.
• 34:30
  Speaker 10: I'm sorry what most.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Of those folks who might know something, they're probably not
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: with us anymore.
• 34:37
  Speaker 13: That's true. There's a few old people, Ohquader's around, old woman. Yeah,
• 34:44
  Speaker 13: you know, people who know how to hold the hide secrets.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 34:48
  Speaker 13: But none of them had read the first chapter of
• 34:50
  Speaker 13: the book and said, Okay, I'm going to call Hollins wor.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Right straight out.
• 34:56
  Speaker 18: Yeah.
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Lots of like stories flying around about unfaithfulness on both
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: of their parts, but again never quite proven, was it.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Never?
• 35:11
  Speaker 13: I mean, this is a classic example of being a reporter.
• 35:15
  Speaker 13: I heard ridiculous rumored about what had happened out there, Yeah,
• 35:21
  Speaker 13: and why she shot him, And you can't run him
• 35:26
  Speaker 13: because there's no no proof record, there's no police report,
• 35:31
  Speaker 13: there's no police chief saying this is what we think happens. Nothing. Yeah,
• 35:35
  Speaker 13: so it just goes to the wastebind, the Texas Monthly Wasteman.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I tell you, this is a story I don't think
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I had ever read until I read the book. Was
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: the last ride of Cowboy Bob tell our listeners about
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Peggy Joe Talis. First of all, what kind of then
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: was she?
• 36:02
  Speaker 13: Well? At the time, you know, she grew up in
• 36:05
  Speaker 13: Grand Prairie. She's feisty, She drove a little Fiat, she
• 36:11
  Speaker 13: loved to go to concerts on Lower Greenville and drink beer.
• 36:15
  Speaker 13: And she one day just got in the car and
• 36:19
  Speaker 13: drove to San Francisco to meet Lawrence Burlinghetti, the head
• 36:22
  Speaker 13: of that City Lights bookstore. And she just had one
• 36:25
  Speaker 13: of her friends that she just had the spirit in her.
• 36:29
  Speaker 13: And in nineteen ninety one, you know, one of the
• 36:36
  Speaker 13: things I would do at Texas Mouthley is tear out
• 36:39
  Speaker 13: articles from the newspapers. Yeah, and to think that this
• 36:43
  Speaker 13: might make a story for me to investigate. Sure, back then,
• 36:47
  Speaker 13: when we had newspapers like that, they could be torn out,
• 36:50
  Speaker 13: and I you know, she got there were these stories
• 36:58
  Speaker 13: about this cowboy, this man dress, this scwboy who was
• 37:01
  Speaker 13: robbing all these little banks. They finally, by luck, caught
• 37:05
  Speaker 13: him and it turned out to be a woman, a
• 37:07
  Speaker 13: middle aged woman named Peggy Joe Talon, the woman who
• 37:11
  Speaker 13: was livinged up in the Dallas single life in the seventies. Well,
• 37:16
  Speaker 13: I could not stop thinking about it, and you know,
• 37:21
  Speaker 13: called around, and finally a niece began to talk, and
• 37:28
  Speaker 13: someone else began to talk, and now came this story
• 37:31
  Speaker 13: that after she spent three years in prison, federal prison
• 37:35
  Speaker 13: for robbing banks as a young woman, now that she
• 37:40
  Speaker 13: was an older, middle aged woman. Seven years later, I
• 37:42
  Speaker 13: think she got out of prison on good behavior, she
• 37:45
  Speaker 13: started robbing banks again, dressed as a man, not as
• 37:50
  Speaker 13: a cowboy anymore, but as a man. And I'd just
• 37:56
  Speaker 13: thought about this. Her favorite movie, her niece told me,
• 37:59
  Speaker 13: was Which Can in the Sudden? That's kids, two guys
• 38:03
  Speaker 13: who you know, we're gonna go down in a blaze
• 38:06
  Speaker 13: of glory, that we're never going to rob poor people,
• 38:11
  Speaker 13: were never going to cause any violence. And in two
• 38:19
  Speaker 13: thousand and five, she had hit a number of those
• 38:24
  Speaker 13: banks in East Texas, and she didn't have a car,
• 38:28
  Speaker 13: but she had her old RV and she drove her
• 38:31
  Speaker 13: RV up into a bank parking lot, got out, said,
• 38:34
  Speaker 13: as did the teller, notes that this is a robbery.
• 38:36
  Speaker 13: Give me all your money, no bake bills. But the
• 38:39
  Speaker 13: tailor did give her some bake bills, and so those
• 38:42
  Speaker 13: exploded when you go through that red dye, when you
• 38:45
  Speaker 13: go through the gal to the door, and she began running.
• 38:53
  Speaker 13: She had hit the jackpot for her for small town bankrupt,
• 38:56
  Speaker 13: small time bankrupper. I think she got twelve thousand dollars
• 39:00
  Speaker 13: to tell her. But the alarm went off and she
• 39:03
  Speaker 13: got popped going through the door on the red dye.
• 39:07
  Speaker 13: But she still got in her RV to stay to
• 39:09
  Speaker 13: get away, and she drove cuttered up this hill, made
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  Speaker 13: a turn or two, ended up in to call on
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  Speaker 13: his back, and for reasons only God can explain. You know,
• 39:23
  Speaker 13: there was somebody there videotaping the whole thing, some neighbor.
• 39:29
  Speaker 13: The police were there there, so there was all kinds
• 39:31
  Speaker 13: of evidence of what happened that last moment when she
• 39:36
  Speaker 13: stepped out of her RV holding a gun and all
• 39:42
  Speaker 13: the police yelled, put your gun down, put your gun down,
• 39:46
  Speaker 13: put it down, And what happened next, I'll never forget,
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  Speaker 13: And if you would like to know, go buy that
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  Speaker 13: darn book.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, It's just there's a lot of adnes in this story,
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  Speaker 1: as you mentioned, a free spirited lady who always wanted more,
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  Speaker 1: who never quite got more.
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  Speaker 13: She didn't even want. She didn't want more the way
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  Speaker 13: you and I was want. I just wanted enough money
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  Speaker 13: to take that RV and get it to Florida Park
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  Speaker 13: on the beach, or would get it to Mexico Park
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  Speaker 13: on the Beach and be done with her life. She
• 40:22
  Speaker 13: cared nothing about money, about marriage, about children. But everybody
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  Speaker 13: who met her she worked at the marina right before
• 40:29
  Speaker 13: her she staged her last robberies at Lake Ray Hubbard,
• 40:32
  Speaker 13: which is east of Towers, and people just liked her.
• 40:40
  Speaker 13: They liked that she was sort of an independent, but
• 40:43
  Speaker 13: nobody had any idea that the way she expressed that
• 40:47
  Speaker 13: independence was to go rob a bank. So here's the thing.
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  Speaker 13: I've divided people in life in two categories. You walk
• 40:57
  Speaker 13: into a bank and you do your business and you
• 40:59
  Speaker 13: walk out, or you walk into your bank to the
• 41:03
  Speaker 13: bank and you find yourself checking out where the cameras
• 41:07
  Speaker 13: are just put the heck up. It not because you're
• 41:10
  Speaker 13: gonna rob it, but you always sort of want to
• 41:12
  Speaker 13: know what that bank has done to keep a robber
• 41:15
  Speaker 13: from hitting the loot. Did that make any sense?
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely? And you know so many of these are
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: like you always see on the news, something terrible has happened,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: and the neighbors always going. She was such a quiet person,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: she was such a nice person. This is the last
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: person we ever would have suspected.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 41:40
  Speaker 13: And if you read one of the stories in there
• 41:43
  Speaker 13: is about maybe next to Peggy Joe, my favorite character,
• 41:48
  Speaker 13: which is Nurse Vicky Jackson.
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  Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, you know.
• 41:51
  Speaker 13: Her or know about her?
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I mean I read the book.
• 41:54
  Speaker 13: Oh well, here is a woman, polite, soft.
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  Speaker 1: Spoken Nlcona Nakona, Texas.
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  Speaker 13: Lacona the smallest hospital in the state. It had twelve.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Beds us the dairy queen.
• 42:10
  Speaker 13: Every day went to the dairy queen dressed in her
• 42:14
  Speaker 13: nurse's uniform, which was always neatly pressed. She had twenty
• 42:17
  Speaker 13: five nurses uniforms. Wow, and she was a wallflower. She
• 42:27
  Speaker 13: was that kind of girl in high school that you know,
• 42:30
  Speaker 13: once you get out of high school, you can't remember
• 42:32
  Speaker 13: anything about her. And yet some kids they went to
• 42:36
  Speaker 13: high school with her, and she became a nurse, and
• 42:39
  Speaker 13: their parents would get sick and they would go visit
• 42:43
  Speaker 13: their parents in the hospital and they would get a
• 42:46
  Speaker 13: look at her and try to remember how they knew her.
• 42:49
  Speaker 13: And you know, she was always trying to find someone
• 42:52
  Speaker 13: to love her. Some guy asked her to dance one
• 42:56
  Speaker 13: night and his hand moved down her back to its
• 43:00
  Speaker 13: squeezed her little round bottom, and they fell in love,
• 43:05
  Speaker 13: or she thought they were falling in love when it
• 43:07
  Speaker 13: turned out that he was just going to try to
• 43:08
  Speaker 13: get some of her money. It was you know, lower
• 43:12
  Speaker 13: class white life, right, Yeah, and uh, one day she
• 43:18
  Speaker 13: decided to pull a carry from a Stephen King novel.
• 43:22
  Speaker 13: She began injecting patients with micro curium I think that's
• 43:27
  Speaker 13: how you say it, which is a drug that'll stop
• 43:30
  Speaker 13: your respiratory system until you're until so you can intubate
• 43:35
  Speaker 13: to someone and then you've got to have a doctor
• 43:38
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  Speaker 1: Step I will never understand how in two months time
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: at Nakona General Hospital, and how many beds did you say?
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: There were eighteen.
• 43:52
  Speaker 13: Twelve twelve beds maybe eighteen, maybe eighteen.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: She murdered ten, most likely killed another ten and attempted
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: five more until they finally figured out, hey, maybe something's
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: not right here.
• 44:13
  Speaker 13: Listen. She would escort relatives of the decease back to
• 44:18
  Speaker 13: their car. At one point, she showed up at someone's
• 44:22
  Speaker 13: funeral who she had killed with a cast role. And
• 44:27
  Speaker 13: you know, at the same time.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have wanted to eat that cast role.
• 44:35
  Speaker 13: You know, the manager of the dairy queen was not
• 44:38
  Speaker 13: making it, was not making any money because he would
• 44:40
  Speaker 13: give the citizens free paper plates and utensils for their
• 44:46
  Speaker 13: reception receptuh funeral.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: And they're running out, they're running out of products.
• 44:51
  Speaker 13: They ran out of product. The post sure the newspaper
• 44:55
  Speaker 13: was having the time of his life because he was
• 44:57
  Speaker 13: running up to six obituaries a week.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not funny. It's it's not funny.
• 45:05
  Speaker 13: It is funny. You and I have the same attitude,
• 45:10
  Speaker 13: which is that this tragedy, these this young woman, this woman,
• 45:16
  Speaker 13: this nerve so you could feel a great deal of
• 45:18
  Speaker 13: sympathy for because people just ignored her. She took care
• 45:23
  Speaker 13: of them, She cleaned up their diarrhea from it. And
• 45:28
  Speaker 13: finally it wasn't that she had moon chaws and byproxy
• 45:30
  Speaker 13: or you know, she was anything like that where she
• 45:34
  Speaker 13: was trying to hurt someone so that she could rush
• 45:36
  Speaker 13: in at the last minute and save them. She genuinely
• 45:42
  Speaker 13: wanted to kill every single one of those people. Where
• 45:46
  Speaker 13: did that come from? Where did that come from? I
• 45:50
  Speaker 13: mean the guy, it's my wife who's trying to get
• 45:54
  Speaker 13: in on the conversations from the other end of the house.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Well, I was just trying to help.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Why do skip? Why do people talk to you? How
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: do you get people to answer questions?
• 46:09
  Speaker 13: Hold on, seem I'm on the phone doing a radio interview.
• 46:14
  Speaker 13: She thought I was talking to my editor or.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Somebody, somebody not important. But you tell her she's talking
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: to somebody really important.
• 46:25
  Speaker 13: Okay, what was your question?
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: My question is why do people talk to you?
• 46:31
  Speaker 13: Well, I have no idea. I just think you've got
• 46:33
  Speaker 13: to show compassion, even to the worst of the killers
• 46:39
  Speaker 13: you run across. And it's not to be deceptive, it's
• 46:45
  Speaker 13: you know, an editor once told me that you need
• 46:49
  Speaker 13: to write about your violence villain with love, and I went,
• 46:55
  Speaker 13: what he is? Yeah, you treat your care you treat
• 46:59
  Speaker 13: your worst character are with love because there was a
• 47:02
  Speaker 13: place somewhere at some time where he or she was good.
• 47:09
  Speaker 13: So you've got to wait, and then you just have
• 47:12
  Speaker 13: to be patient. If you can't talk to that person
• 47:15
  Speaker 13: for a long time, then you're going to be in trouble.
• 47:19
  Speaker 13: I mean, because you can't get the story right. You
• 47:23
  Speaker 13: can't what am I thinking of? You want to know
• 47:28
  Speaker 13: why someone crosses this invisible line? Yeah, to go from
• 47:34
  Speaker 13: sanity to insanity.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I talked to you when the story on Candice Mossler
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: came out, and she's just one of the more fascinating
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: people in Texas history as far as I'm concerned. So
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I don't want to revisit that because I'm running out
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: of time. I need you to tell our listeners who
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: the Gory Girls were.
• 47:57
  Speaker 13: Well, I was driving with my wife and stepdaughter through
• 48:02
  Speaker 13: Hunt School and this is when the Prison Museum was
• 48:06
  Speaker 13: the old museum downtown. Yeah, not a nice shining one
• 48:10
  Speaker 13: on I forty five, and I saw these women dressed
• 48:15
  Speaker 13: as del Evatts, you know, the cowgirls, singing Calgary who
• 48:19
  Speaker 13: was staying with Roy Rogers this photograph And I said
• 48:23
  Speaker 13: to the man that ran the museum and says, who
• 48:26
  Speaker 13: is that? Because we don't know much about them, but
• 48:29
  Speaker 13: they were called the Gory Girls, and they apparently had
• 48:32
  Speaker 13: a sensation. They apparently were a sensation, and then they
• 48:36
  Speaker 13: all disappeared, and I turned and looked at haley stepdaughter.
• 48:41
  Speaker 13: It has said, there's a story I hear the Sound
• 48:44
  Speaker 13: of Money.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: At one time in the early ANDLD in the early.
• 48:51
  Speaker 13: Forties, the right to that movie.
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  Speaker 1: Seven million people were tuning in to w b AP
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  Speaker 1: to listen to the Gory Girls sing.
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  Speaker 13: Correct, that's right? Every was it every Monday night or
• 49:06
  Speaker 13: Wednesday ninth?
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Wednesday nights.
• 49:10
  Speaker 13: In the unit where they did all the executions back then? Correct,
• 49:17
  Speaker 13: they wanted Why did they want to do this so
• 49:22
  Speaker 13: they could be known as famous singers? No, because they
• 49:25
  Speaker 13: knew they could win over the warden of their unit,
• 49:29
  Speaker 13: the Gory Unit. If you're going up forty five and
• 49:34
  Speaker 13: right before you get into a hunt school, you don't
• 49:38
  Speaker 13: want to be in the gory unit. Unit called the
• 49:41
  Speaker 13: Gory Unit. Yeah, it's now male, but back then that
• 49:45
  Speaker 13: was the one place in Texas where prison Fella and
• 49:48
  Speaker 13: the inmates were taken.
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  Speaker 1: And they figured out that if if people liked them,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: first of all, they were able to tour, they were
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: able to get out of for Inson and goes sing
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: when they became really famous, and then they got paroled
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: one by one. So the group broke up and they
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: were living just I mean, quiet lives and never sang
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: again apparently.
• 50:23
  Speaker 13: Never will not to anyone's knowledge. They were not on
• 50:26
  Speaker 13: any marquee. They didn't get a recording age nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 50:31
  Speaker 13: They wanted to disappear. They became famous to disappear. Now
• 50:36
  Speaker 13: where do you hear a theme like that?
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  Speaker 17: Ever?
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the book is fabulous. It's a compilation of
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: some of the great female crime stories in the state
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  Speaker 1: of Texas. Ever, Skip, you're not through writing.
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  Speaker 4: Are you?
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  Speaker 1: I better not be.
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  Speaker 13: I've got some bills to pay.
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  Speaker 1: Excellent, Okay, so we're going to talk again.
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  Speaker 13: Right, Well, I mean I'm trying to persuade the muckety
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  Speaker 13: mug bosses. You know, we had them. This book is
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  Speaker 13: called She Killed. Yes, naturally, the next book should be
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  Speaker 13: called He Killed.
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  Speaker 1: No Doubt, No Doubt.
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  Speaker 13: Thanks Skip anytime.
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  Speaker 1: That's Skip Holland's Worth from Texas Monthly. The book is
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