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The Next Round: Lane Kiffin vs. the SEC, Alabama’s Talent Question & College Football Is Back · The Next Round

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in to a new Sport and State, the next
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  Speaker 1: round by Hard Rock Bets. As we roll on today,
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  Speaker 1: Jim Dunaway, Lance Taylor, Ryan Brown, all the guys behind
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  Speaker 1: the glass today. A lot to get to. Coming up
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  Speaker 1: in our next round part of the show, final three,
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  Speaker 1: hours three and four, after we get off Sports State here,
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  Speaker 1: we'll do a buy or sell on college football. But
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  Speaker 1: here over the next two hours on this platform, man,
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  Speaker 1: we've got a lot to talk about, including some actual
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  Speaker 1: games on the field. We'll get to the off-the-court stuff
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  Speaker 1: here in a second. Also, ESPN's got the top 100
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  Speaker 1: players and some watch lists for some college football awards.
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  Speaker 1: A glaring, a glaring omission high in those rankings coming
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  Speaker 1: up on the show as well. And some positive Alabama
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  Speaker 1: injury news, all that to get to as we get going.
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  Speaker 1: But it is becoming very evident that Lane Kiffin is
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  Speaker 1: drifting out on an island on his own. We're heading
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  Speaker 1: for a Kiffin SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey's showdown at some point,
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  Speaker 1: like the OK Corral, because Kiffin yesterday on the McAfee
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  Speaker 1: show saying, man, you can't just pick which court orders
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  Speaker 1: you're going to abide by and not abide to. But
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  Speaker 1: last night, the SEC's presidents and chancellors, according to reports,
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  Speaker 1: a 16-0 vote, which means the LSU handpicked governor, president,
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  Speaker 1: chancellor guy, voted against his own football coach when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to NFL players.
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  Speaker 2: This is interesting because your governor is his boss, and
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  Speaker 2: that governor is obviously a huge LSU fan, right?
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  Speaker 1: We've learned that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, and back to Kiffin's comments yesterday, hey, I'm
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  Speaker 2: either coaching or I'm coaching against him. I get that,
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  Speaker 2: but let's be sensible on some of this stuff. And
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  Speaker 2: we kind of talked about it and alluded yesterday with
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  Speaker 2: the Big Ten doing this. The SEC was probably going
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  Speaker 2: to quickly jump on board with, What is amazing about
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  Speaker 2: this is Lane Kiffin is in the middle of three
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  Speaker 2: massive controversies as LSU's coach, and he's yet to coach
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  Speaker 2: a game.
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  Speaker 1: Almost all at once, too, right?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you go from the way he left
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  Speaker 2: Ole Miss.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Was it a magazine article this past year on the recruiting?
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  Speaker 1: Vanity Fair, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Vanity Fair. And now this.
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  Speaker 1: And got dragged into the Jaden Daniels. None of his fault, really,
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  Speaker 1: but he got dragged into that one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm an LSU fan, I'm ready to
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  Speaker 2: kick this thing off.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt. And then they go and lose to Clemson.
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  Speaker 1: Clemson cannot get here quick enough. And what's even more
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  Speaker 1: concerning for Lane and LSU right now is CBS Sports
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  Speaker 1: reporting yesterday that their sources tell them that LSU staff members,
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  Speaker 1: maybe even Lane in one situation, encourage these players to
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  Speaker 1: sue the NCAA to come back from the NFL to college,
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  Speaker 1: which is in direct violation of NCAA rules. So the
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  Speaker 1: question comes, will there be penalties down the road? And yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: Daquan Wright cleared waivers, as everyone expected him to do.
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  Speaker 1: So he's cleared to come. So we'll see what Lane
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  Speaker 1: Kiffin at LSU does next. Everything ends up in court.
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  Speaker 1: But if you missed it yesterday, the SEC— joined the
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  Speaker 1: Big 12, they adopted an NFL-NBA plan to keep players
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  Speaker 1: from coming. If you declare for the NFL or NBA
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  Speaker 1: draft and didn't withdraw in the appropriate time, you're not eligible.
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  Speaker 1: If you signed a contract or were rostered by a team,
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  Speaker 1: you're not eligible. The Big Ten basically took care of
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  Speaker 1: football before the SEC did. They'll circle back for basketball.
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame says they're all in on the SEC Big
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  Speaker 1: Ten plans. The Big 12 and the ACC are expected
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  Speaker 1: to announce the same thing today. Even the Sun Belt
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  Speaker 1: has come out and said, we're going to adhere to
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  Speaker 1: the plans that the SEC and the Big 10 announced yesterday. Well,
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  Speaker 1: as we said on the show yesterday, the Big 10
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  Speaker 1: doesn't come out with such a strong stance if they
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  Speaker 1: didn't already think that Greg Sinke and the SEC were
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  Speaker 1: doing it. Those two... while they may seem like enemies, they,
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  Speaker 1: I think, always know what each other are doing.
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  Speaker 2: They are drafting partners.
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  Speaker 3: They're drafting partners.
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  Speaker 1: There was no way the Big Ten was going to
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  Speaker 1: limit themselves without knowing the SEC was also going to
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  Speaker 1: do it.
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  Speaker 2: The big brands need each other, but at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: they're super competitive, and they're not going to give a
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  Speaker 2: competitive advantage to one without the other having that. We
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  Speaker 2: talked about it yesterday. If everything's equitable, it makes sense,
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  Speaker 2: but you are going to have people that challenge this.
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  Speaker 2: Daquan Wright is coming out and saying, hey, look, I
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  Speaker 2: could have played in the NFL, but I was told,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that I needed to clear waivers to get
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  Speaker 2: back eligible at LSU this year. I could have had
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  Speaker 2: a professional career, and I don't think we believe that.
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  Speaker 2: I think he was going to get cut anyway. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's going to be the argument there. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Will Wade on the basketball side is going
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  Speaker 2: to want to fight this as well.
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  Speaker 1: I was moving to that because R.J. Louise got cleared
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  Speaker 1: and part of his TRO. to play at LSU.
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  Speaker 3: He's a guy, St.
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  Speaker 2: John's, right?
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  Speaker 1: That's right, St. John's.
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  Speaker 2: First team all Big East.
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  Speaker 1: And actually played in some NBA games. Yeah. On a
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  Speaker 1: 10-day contract. Well, he was on a roster. Did he
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  Speaker 1: get in? I don't know if he got in the game,
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  Speaker 1: but he was on the bench during an actual game.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't an exhibition game. It wasn't a G League game.
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  Speaker 1: And he got cleared. And did you see Will Wade
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  Speaker 1: when he walked in and out of the building? He
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  Speaker 1: jumped on him and hugged him like he hadn't seen
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  Speaker 1: him in years. Somebody in the chat said... He just
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  Speaker 1: met him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Probably so. Somebody in the chat yesterday said, I just
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  Speaker 1: saw a video of Will Wade hugging R.J. Lewis like
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  Speaker 1: he just got back from Vietnam. I mean, it was like,
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  Speaker 1: it was insane. Feinbaum used the Strait of Hormuz yesterday
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  Speaker 1: on his show the same way. And then there's... I mean,
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  Speaker 1: just to throw fuel on the fire at LSU, LSU's
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  Speaker 1: women's basketball team had recruited a young lady from Ukraine,
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  Speaker 1: from the Ukraine. And then Kim Mulkey just this week
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  Speaker 1: signed a girl from Russia. And the Ukrainian girl has
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  Speaker 1: left the team. Because she didn't want to play with
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  Speaker 1: a Russian girl? She didn't want to play with a
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  Speaker 1: Russian girl because her father is a Ukrainian soldier. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I guess I can understand that, yes. And Kim Mulkey
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  Speaker 1: literally said, you two could be sort of the poster
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  Speaker 1: children to end the war in the Ukraine. And the
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  Speaker 1: Ukrainian girl was like, are you kidding me? And she's
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  Speaker 1: left the team. I love Kim Wilkie's sales job. Like, also,
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  Speaker 1: you could average about– You.
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  Speaker 2: Understand what we could do here.
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  Speaker 3: Show them Rocky IV together.
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  Speaker 1: You could average 18 and 10 for us as well.
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  Speaker 3: That's not important, though.
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  Speaker 2: What does the NIL look like in women's basketball?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I bet for her it's as big as anybody's.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think it's the same, like, as far as
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  Speaker 2: what Dequan Wright was going to make on a rookie
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  Speaker 2: contract for an undrafted guy in the NFL– He's going
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  Speaker 2: to make more, obviously, at LSU. Do you think the
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  Speaker 2: majority of major college basketball women's players can make more
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  Speaker 2: at that level than the WNBA?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I think yes.
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  Speaker 3: At the elite programs.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, because the pie is only so much, and obviously
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  Speaker 2: football is going to get the lion's share, and then
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be men's basketball, and then I don't
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  Speaker 2: know where you go after that.
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  Speaker 1: What happens in situations like that on the smaller sports,
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  Speaker 1: from what I've learned, is that Mulkey probably has– some
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  Speaker 1: big money people who are fans of women's basketball.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, one dealership that's like, hey, I'm putting $ 5 million in,
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  Speaker 2: but it's going all the way up.
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  Speaker 1: There are certain softball programs that have that around the country,
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  Speaker 1: women's basketball. I mean, you hope, what you really hope
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  Speaker 1: is you've got some millionaire slash billionaire out there whose
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  Speaker 1: daughter's a basketball player in high school, and he thinks
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  Speaker 1: if I give to Kim, she'll get a scholarship, and Kim,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure, will gladly give that scholarship. I've seen that happen.
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  Speaker 1: I've learned a golf team may have some specific golf boosters.
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  Speaker 1: There's no doubt. I've seen it happen. It's just remarkable
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  Speaker 1: that LSU... There's two remarkable things about what I'm about
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  Speaker 1: to say. But I just said all three of those
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  Speaker 1: sports here. Football, men's basketball, women's basketball. And they all
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  Speaker 1: are doing... insane things it's remarkable that at the same
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  Speaker 1: time they may have the biggest villain in all three
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  Speaker 1: of those sports like I don't think there's any doubt
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  Speaker 1: Kim Mulkey is the biggest villain in women's.
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  Speaker 2: Basketball Gino Auriemma still I think people I mean it's
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  Speaker 2: close yeah it is close I think people still at
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  Speaker 2: least can respect what Gino has accomplished and he's going
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  Speaker 2: into old man territory.
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  Speaker 1: But he is a very oh he's very unlikable but
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  Speaker 1: Kim Mulkey seems the least likable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah but you start to look at the numbers I
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  Speaker 2: mean how many more does he have than Mulkey I.
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  Speaker 1: Think it's a lot, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like 10.
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  Speaker 1: More, right? Yeah, it's a ton. Will Wade has got
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  Speaker 1: to be the biggest villain in men's basketball, right? Got
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  Speaker 1: to be.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Dan Hurley.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, I think there's an element of respect
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  Speaker 1: for Dan Hurley.
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  Speaker 2: So it's either UConn or LSU. Well, I would say this.
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  Speaker 2: For all of LSU, who's coaching UConn football right now?
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  Speaker 2: Mulkey does. It's our man Jim Moore Jr.
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  Speaker 1: right? No, he left. He's at Colorado State.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, he is at Colorado State. God, who is
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  Speaker 2: the guy now there? Anyway, Mulkey has at least won
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  Speaker 2: the hardware. If Will Wade and or Lane Kiffin ever
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  Speaker 2: won a national championship, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Jason Candle, he was the guy from Toledo. Will Wade
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  Speaker 1: is the guy, though, that makes it seem like everybody...
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  Speaker 1: He recruits this way and everything. Everybody's against us.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: We're the villains. Everybody's against us. That's the way Will
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  Speaker 1: Wade lives life, and I think it has... If you
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  Speaker 1: look at it, really, that has not been the case.
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  Speaker 1: Wade's been given several opportunities. LSU now twice. NC State,
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  Speaker 1: that was a good job he took. But that's the
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  Speaker 1: way he paints the picture of the world. Everybody's against us.
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  Speaker 1: Can I at least get full agreement, Lane Kiffin, the
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  Speaker 1: biggest villain in the college football world?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'll give you that now.
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  Speaker 1: But the most remarkable part about that to me is
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  Speaker 1: I think Kiffin might be the most likable of those three.
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  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin has finally found a place where he's not
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  Speaker 1: the most hated person, and that's in his own coaching staff.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think there are.
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  Speaker 3: That's at LSU.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think people hate Mulkey and Wade more
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  Speaker 1: than they hate Kiffin. Yeah. I mean, they're given sports.
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  Speaker 2: If you survey anybody that covers it, that watches it,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I would say 9 out of 10 don't
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  Speaker 2: like Mulkey and Wade. And, you know, it's probably 7
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  Speaker 2: out of 10 now with Lane Kiffin.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Lane Kiffin's the most likable of that group,
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  Speaker 1: which is remarkable. I would tell you this, that if
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  Speaker 1: we could get honest opinion– if like we had ways, Alexa,
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  Speaker 1: to listen into homes across America, your iPhone, just any
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  Speaker 1: way to hear Americans in their room a week from
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  Speaker 1: Saturday night prime time, how many people around the country
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  Speaker 1: cheering for Dabo and Clemson to beat LSU? If the
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  Speaker 1: map was able to light up all of the 50
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  Speaker 1: states in the United States, either orange or purple during
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  Speaker 1: that game for Clemson orange or LSU purple, How many
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  Speaker 1: states would be cheering for LSU, excuse me, for Clemson
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  Speaker 1: to win that game? How many orange states do you
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  Speaker 1: think we have? I think all of them, but Louisiana.
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  Speaker 1: I think Louisiana would be the one.
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  Speaker 2: Every one of them.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, the same thing when Ole Miss
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  Speaker 1: plays them week three.
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  Speaker 2: Including me. You guys know how I feel about Dabo.
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  Speaker 2: I'm all on board. Now, I don't know where I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to play that game. Atlanta's locked yet, so if
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  Speaker 2: I end up laying the nine and a half with LSU, then.
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  Speaker 2: The story's a little bit different, but I fully plan
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  Speaker 2: on sitting on the couch and pulling for Clemson.
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  Speaker 1: Lance is going to bring his own guts that night.
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  Speaker 2: I love crazy storylines, and you guys would agree with
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  Speaker 2: all of this drama going on. They have set themselves up.
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  Speaker 2: They are a target this year.
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  Speaker 1: It's why all offseason I have talked about that game,
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  Speaker 1: and I have said it's not going to stun me
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  Speaker 1: if Clemson wins because I have watched enough college football
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  Speaker 1: in my life to know the team that gets all
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  Speaker 1: the attention, good or bad, all the attention... And the
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  Speaker 1: other team that's just laying in the weeds and nobody
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  Speaker 1: talks about them, that is a scary situation. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's– and I wanted to bring this up here
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  Speaker 1: quickly too because I said this yesterday on the social platforms.
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  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin now has to, in my opinion, coach his
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  Speaker 1: locker room because if you've paid attention over the last week,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm the tight end, QB1 in the tight end,
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  Speaker 1: not QB1, but tight end one in the tight end room,
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  Speaker 1: defensive lineman number one, the two guys that he's been
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  Speaker 1: working hard to bring in, it's obvious my coach doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have any confidence in me. We're trying to get Daquan right.
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  Speaker 1: If I was the starting tight end, he's out for
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  Speaker 1: the last week fighting to replace me as the starter.
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  Speaker 1: Those two rooms, the D-line room and the tight end room,
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  Speaker 1: can't be all... peaches and cream right now. Lane Kiffin's
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  Speaker 1: got to do some coaching on personalities to get a
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  Speaker 1: little chemistry back in that room.
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  Speaker 2: That was the initial thing that I absolutely hated about this.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of the things that Dan Lanning immediately brought up,
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  Speaker 2: Oregon's head coach, these other guys that have gone out
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  Speaker 2: and sweated. It's one of the reasons, you know, it
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  Speaker 2: always comes back to the L.A. Rams for me. It's
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  Speaker 2: one of the reasons that I really don't want to
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  Speaker 2: see Aaron Donald come back. It would be exciting. But
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  Speaker 2: guys like Ty Hamilton drafted two years ago, a guy
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  Speaker 2: like Tim Keenan III, one of those two guys is
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  Speaker 2: going to lose their roster spot. One of those two
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  Speaker 2: guys will not be on the Rams 53 man if
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Donald comes back. And, you know, that's unfortunate for
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  Speaker 2: those guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And you like them for the future. You'd love
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald for a year, but. those guys could be
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  Speaker 1: with you for several years.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that and the fact that what is team chemistry like? Like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure everybody would be excited about 99 coming back,
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  Speaker 2: one of the best to ever do it. But at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, man, you build this rapport with all
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  Speaker 2: of these guys that you're at camp with, and then
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden a guy walks in, the guy
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  Speaker 2: gets cut.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we talked about it in the Betty
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  Speaker 1: Ako situation. Somebody's losing minutes in that deal, and whoever
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  Speaker 1: loses minutes– Nate Oates had to deal with that now.
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  Speaker 1: And I did not like the Betty Ockham. You did not.
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  Speaker 1: You did not.
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  Speaker 2: And juice wasn't worth squeezing.
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  Speaker 1: No, it was not.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think the Daquan Wright, again, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I know you kind of questioned where he was talent-wise.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's a really good college tight end that
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  Speaker 2: can make some big plays. But I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: it's worth it.
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  Speaker 1: I looked up his numbers because I, you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I knew Daquan Wright played in the SEC, but I
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  Speaker 1: didn't really pay attention to Daquan Wright. And I was like, boy,
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  Speaker 1: if they're going to all this trouble to get a
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  Speaker 1: tight end, this guy must have torn it up. He
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  Speaker 1: was 31st in the league in receiving last year at
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  Speaker 1: Ole Miss. 635 receiving yards, five touchdowns. Among tight ends,
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  Speaker 1: that was the third best. Stowers was number one, of course.
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  Speaker 1: Rowan Jones at Arkansas was number two. I mean, third
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  Speaker 1: best tight end statistically in the SEC last year. That's
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good player. Yeah. I mean, is it worth
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  Speaker 1: all this trouble? Probably not, but he is a good
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  Speaker 1: enough player. ESPN with a top 100 list. We'll get
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  Speaker 2: Normally your artwork's pretty spot on, though. That one's a
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  Speaker 2: little shaky.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: Mine is the worst on the show. Toughest part about
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: it is getting the spacing in the open areas. On
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: the inside. You know what I'm saying?
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Did you go Daniel Day-Lewis, my left foot? Can you
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: draw with your toes?
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, can we pull up the actual North Carolina Tar
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Heel logo, Tyler?
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: It's not close.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: It's got to be close.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: Dude, they would send these to Haiti if.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: These were hats. I was staring at it as I
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: drew it. How is this not close?
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's close. Again.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, you could tell what it is. Yeah, again,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: the part.
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: Got a little too much spacing in the bend of
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: the C there.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. You could easily fix that, though.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: And the top of the N goes out too high.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I was making the top of the N go
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: out a little further because it seemed to be we
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: were really too close. I didn't think it would show
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: up good on TV. But anyway, next week we will
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: draw and make picks. By the way, I like North
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Carolina plus the seven and a half.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I see that. It's gone up to eight and a half.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Has it gone to eight and a half? Oh, look
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: at you moving the line, Jimmy D.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Give me eight and a half.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, you do have, and he's very experienced, but
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Jaden Craig coming in from Harvard. Like, you know, last
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: year we were like, how good is Matier going to be?
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: And it ended up not being that great. Now, you
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: had a kid from Ferris State that ended up being
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: one of the best quarterbacks and making the semifinals last
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: year and traded out Jambliss. But Jaden Craig going from
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Harvard to the first game of the college football season
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: against what has to be an improved North Carolina team? Like,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know how improved, but they got to be
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: better than they were last year.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's Bill Belichick. Come on.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: It's kind of Bobby Petrino.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: It's got to be better. Now I know they're going
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: into that game with no general manager and no defensive coordinator.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: But Belichick may be calling plays at that point.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: I would think that Belichick will take over for his
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: son defensively there. And, Bobby Petrino, what can he do
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: with Billy Edwards? Billy Edwards is a guy that's got
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: starts under his belt and was going to be the
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: starting quarterback at Wisconsin, started at Maryland. So he's got
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of experience. They're going to be better. I
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: just don't know how much better, good enough to get
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: inside of that number. We shall see.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: First game of the year in the Power Conferences, North
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Carolina and TCU, 11 a.m. on ESPN this weekend. Hey,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Hutton and Withrow on before us here on Sporting State
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: and Clay Travis, who's on after us. here on Sporting State.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: All three of those guys will be with us tomorrow
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: night as we do our kickoff party, our fifth anniversary
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: show at Walk-Ons on Highway 280 with a lot of
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: fun with our friends at Bud Light, and all those
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: guys will be down with us.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, man, I can't wait. I mean, we're going to
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: have so many people at this party tomorrow night. We've
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: got so many different things happening. Going on. I had
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to have dinner with our buddy Alexander Shannara
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: last night. He's bringing multiple bottles of Pappy out. He's
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: got some Nick Saban signed memorabilia that he's going to
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: be bringing out. He was like, you know, I had
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: some DeBoer. What do you think would go? But I said,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Alabama fans would step over, you know, DeBoer. To get
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: anything saved.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Kalen probably knows that himself.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: But we're going to have $ 3 pints from Bud Light.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: We're going to have $ 2 long necks from Bud Light.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: We're going to have great food from Walk-Ons. It starts
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: at 5 o'clock, our fifth anniversary party. Tomorrow night, Tattersall Park, Walk-Ons,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: live music. We'll also have Ubers if you need that.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Just ask us. We'll have QR codes. We'll hook you
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: up on that. So come out and join us tomorrow
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: for the fifth anniversary kickoff party.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we know many of you are new to the
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: show on Sporting State. If you're anywhere... near Birmingham, come
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: on over. It is a good time. We hang out.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: We have fun. We'll talk to you. We'll stay there
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: all night. All those people that are like, if I
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: could ever talk to that Clay Travis, if I could
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: just ever talk to him, this is your chance. Clay
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: will stand there and talk to you all night.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: And the question I get the most.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Unfettered access to Clay Travis.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Is at what time will the party go until? And
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I said, we have closed down walk-ons every year.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: So I just assume 9, 930. We'll stay there as
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: long as you need us. Rams kick it off tomorrow
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: night at 9. So.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: So 8.30 for you? It's an exhibition.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can watch first quarter there.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Great TV set up at walk-on. It's always a lot
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: of fun. All right, so ESPN.com has the top 100
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: players in college football this year. And you had an
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: observation pretty quickly when you walked in the room this morning.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, again, we were just talking Nick Saban.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: If you go back to any of Nick Saban's teams
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: from second year in 2008 all the way until his
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: final year in 2023 what is one thing I mean
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: how many do you think you would see Alabama players
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: in the top 25.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: 25 players in the nation I would say minimum three
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: yeah I think I remember one year it was five
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: of the top 25 I think really all you have
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: to do is look at the NFL draft and in
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: the top 32 players at the end of the year
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: frequently there were three or four One times six, right?
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: In the first round? Yeah. And that's your top 32
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: seniors or seniors or juniors there. So that kind of
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: gives you some indication.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: So Alabama does not have a player ranked in the
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: top 35 in college football. Wow.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: So times have changed.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, obviously. I mean, 35 guys in front
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: of the first Alabama player and that Alabama player, I
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: don't know if you heard me tell Dunaway who it was.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Well, you did. And I would have guessed who Dunaway guessed.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: You asked us to guess who it was, and Dunaway
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: said Yonce Pierre, which would have been my guess, but
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: that's not who it was.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: It's Bray Hubbard.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: And I don't have a problem with Bray Hubbard being
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: on here, but I mean, to be 36, the first
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Alabama player, and I'm not saying that that's off. It's
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: just an interesting observation based on where Alabama is right
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: now as a whole.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I think what is more alarming than just Alabama is
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: three of the top ten are SEC. Only three of
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: the top ten.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's insane in itself.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: So we've got 30% SEC. What's the Big Ten? Okay,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I'll give you the top ten. Well, I think other
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: than Notre Dame, the rest of them are Big Ten
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: or Notre Dame. Jeremiah Smith, Ohio State. Leonard Moore, Notre Dame.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: colin simmons texas remember they're in the sec malachi tony
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: miami trinidad chambliss old miss uh q1 lacy old miss
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: cj carr notre dame julian say in ohio state jada
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: mayava usc and carter smith offensive tackle indiana it's only
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: four of ten uh notre dame is very well represented
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: on this thing so it's three of ten sec four
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: of ten notre dame or four of ten um Ohio State,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame has the rest. No, no, you had Malachi
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Toney from Miami, who should be in there, obviously, from
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the ACC. That was the lone ACC route. If you
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: go down to 15, I think four of the top
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: 15 are from Texas. The University of, not State of?
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Cam Coleman is 15th on the list. Arch Manning is 13th.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Trevor Goosby with that knee bruise is 12. I already
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: gave you Colin Simmons. And so four of the top
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: 15 are Texas players.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Longhorns. Point on Bama, only three in the top 100.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Different times.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Different times.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, does that show you?
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Is Kalen Russell one of them?
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: So does this work both ways? Because if Alabama goes
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: eight and four, we talked about DEFCON 1 yesterday. Alabama
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: fans are going to go nuts. They're going to want
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Kalen to bore out. But if Kalen DeBoer goes out
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: and makes a deep run of the college football playoff
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: for people like, okay, he is a great coach because
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: he's only got three of the top 100.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: He's only got three players out of the best 100
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: in America and he's making a deep run.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, you got to pick one or the other, right? Now,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: people would say it's his fault that he doesn't have
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: that talent.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: When you just started reading that Pete Golding's got several
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: players up there too. It's not just Texas. I heard
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Chambliss and Q1 Lacey in that top 10, both of
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: those guys coming back. That's right.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Indiana's got players littered all over too. And I think that's,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: what's interesting. Indiana, did you ever think you would see
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: a top 100 list where Indiana's got more players in Alabama,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: more players.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Than almost anybody. Yeah. Uh, LT has, uh, eight crystal
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: ball stats that we'll do later in the show. That's
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: going to, uh, maybe help eight SEC contenders if they
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: can hit that mark. You'll want to see that to
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: see where your team is. Another sign of the times,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: we've got odds out on the Bolitnikoff Award goes to
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the best wide receiver in the game, and the O'Brien Award, right?
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Is that the other one?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: The O'Davy. Yeah, Davy O'Brien.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Davy O'Brien. Davy O'Brien Award, which is one of the
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: quarterback awards that go out there. The Bolitnikoff Award, does
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: it go to anybody other than Jeremiah Smith? Who can
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: beat Jeremiah Smith? It's going to be hard.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: It's going to be hard.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I think Malachi Tony could.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: He could. Because, you know, although it's supposed to be
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: all about the best receiver, I think Malachi Tony is
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: going to be able to wow with some of the returns, which,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: you know, if it's an even race and both of
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: those teams are 11-1 and they're, you know, both top
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: five teams, I could see Tony maybe get the push,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: you know, based on the fact that everybody thought it
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: was Jeremiah Smith to lose. But in that Ryan Day
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: system with Julian Sayen coming back, no Cornell Tate, although
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I think Chris Henry Jr. is going to get a
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: lot of touches. Jeremiah Smith's numbers could be– I don't
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: know what the best number is ever for a receiver.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I would just immediately say Devontae Smith. But that was
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: only a 10-game schedule. Maybe Larry Fitzgerald, that Pittsburgh year
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: where he was the runner-up with the Heisman.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: But if you factor in the playoffs and the SEC
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: championship game, that's 13 for Devontae. I mean, Devontae had
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: remarkable numbers.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: But now Ohio State could play 16 games. He could shatter.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: He could shatter all the single season records, I think.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: And again, I don't know what those are. I'm looking
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: it up. Receiving yards, NCAA.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Well, I would just look at it, you know.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Single season.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Catches, yards, and touchdowns. You know, the three big.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Single season is a guy I don't even remember. I'll
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: give you the name and everything in my wallet if
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you can tell me where he played. Trevor Inslee. Trevor Inslee,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: he played, gosh, that was... Is this Division I? It is.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: This is most catches, you said? No, this is most
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: receiving yards. You do not qualify, because I can't tell
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: if you're Googling or not. Is it North Texas? It
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: is not North Texas. 2,060 receiving yards for this team.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: 2,060 receiving yards. That was back during Timmy Chang's Hawaii team.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: You would think so, but no.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Western Kentucky.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Nevada. 1999, Nevada. Trevor Inslee. Never heard of the guy.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Troy Edwards is number two at 1996. Now, I remember
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: him playing. I saw him play at Louisiana Tech. Tim Rattay. Yeah. Crabtree,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: third of your major colleges at 1,962 yards in 2007
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: for Texas Tech. Crazy.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Well, right now, I mean, there's only two receivers in there,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith and Malachi Toney, that have single-digit odds as
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: far as, like, the shortest odds to win the bulletin
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: cuff right now. Jeremiah Smith, 5-2, so plus 250. Malachi Toney, 7-1.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Then a former Auburn Tiger is third on the Blutnikoff list.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Who? Cam Coleman. 10-1. I was doing a little Florida
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: State pre-scout last night. Singleton's going to be pretty darn
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: good down there. Well, I felt the same thing at Auburn.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Not Florida State, Florida.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Ziegels Robinson is going to be really good at Florida State.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Ziegels Robinson at Florida State, yeah, but Singleton at Florida.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I felt the same thing at Auburn. I remember last year,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and people called me nuts. I was like, at the
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: end of the year, Singleton will have Auburn's best receiving numbers. Yeah,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I was diving in on Philo. Philo is the quarterback
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: down there, and that receiving core is pretty well stacked.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, guess who's not on this list? There's probably 25
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: guys listed with odds to win the Boletnikoff this year,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: and one of those guys is not Singleton.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Complimentary. Complimentary.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, Deuce Robinson is fifth here for Florida State
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: coming over from USC. That's pretty crazy.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: More college football to get to on the show as
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: we roll on here on the next round, presented by
• 26:10
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• 26:13
  Speaker 1: a little tribute to Dolly Parton. We'll say some nice
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: things about one of the great American heroes. You could
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: just say American icon. She did a lot of good
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: in the world. We'll talk about that and maybe LT's
• 26:27
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• 26:31
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• 26:33
  Speaker 1: on The Next Round, presented by Hard Rock Bets. We've
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: got the whiteout game official now. USC at Penn State,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: primetime October 10th on NBC. Wow, I did not know
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: that they've... That announcement came yesterday. The start time is
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: prime time. That announcement also came because I had thought
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: that would potentially be the Fox big noon, which would
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: be bad news for USC traveling cross country and having
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to play an early body clock game. Probably USC would
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: prefer not to play in the whiteout atmosphere, but I
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: think Lincoln Riley would take the prime time game over
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: having to play that early game.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: A thousand percent.
• 27:09
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• 27:10
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• 27:10
  Speaker 2: This is really good news for USC because that is,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: That's going to be one of those swing games. Can
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: they get to 10-2? And, you know, they've got, I
• 27:18
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• 27:20
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  Speaker 1: She pitched again on Monday, had six more strikeouts, some
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  Speaker 1: There's another elimination game today, but they're still in the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: hunt to be the American champions in Played for the
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: World Championship. That'd be hard to do battling back from
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the loser's bracket, but she's been a stud so far.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and going back two nights ago, you know, they're
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: down 3-0. They ended up tying the game 5-5 on
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: five straight two-out runs. So, like, the way they came
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: back two nights ago and then, you know, pretty much
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: dominated last night i heard the the sports center anchors
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: talking about a monday they're like we think alabama's gonna
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: win this thing.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Oh wow so they're the betting favorite well i keep
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: seeing their games are always in prime time so i
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: would imagine they're getting a little bump in the numbers
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: probably from people wanting to see kenley the daughter of
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: a former major league baseball player both pitch and play
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: shortstop well.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: You know the last girl that we saw win a
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: little league world series game was the monique moday davis
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: monay davis.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah and she has now broken moday's records her strikeouts
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and boy her breaking ball is incredible have you guys
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: seen it i have y'all watched enough to see her
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: break one off the table i mean it's i i've
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: just seen her at the plate i haven't but i've
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: seen it on social media and i mean it's like
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: uh see she's a righty right so it's uh it's
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: like the Three to eight. Most people believe this is
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: her last year of baseball and she will transition into
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: softball to then go on and play in the college
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: level of that. So they're not worried about her arm, basically,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: because she's not going to be throwing breaking pitches forever.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: So throw all you want right now. It'll be interesting
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: to see her choices, what she made. LT's favorite day
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: of the year may be today. It is National Dog Day.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: National Dog Day today. Did you know that already?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I did know that, yes.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Did you wake up?
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Did the dogs have you gift? Did you have gifts
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: for the dogs? He's got a tree up at the house,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: a dog tree.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Chili got duck this morning, and Bullet got Memphis barbecue.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: It's these different flavors, so they had a really, really
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: nice gourmet can of food each.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: On National Dog Day? Yeah.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Maddie would not.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Let them sleep in the bed last night. I'm going
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: to angle for it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: It's National Dog Day.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: It is National Dog Day.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Dog Day Eve, they don't get to sleep in the bed,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: but maybe.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: You know, we had this deep conversation at dinner last
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: night about unconditional love and just relationships and stuff. And
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I was like, the only unconditional love you're truly going
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: to get, it ain't even from your kids. It is
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: from a dog. And that is fact. And that's why,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: as much as I love Brown, I don't know if
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I can 100% trust him because he doesn't love dogs. Yeah.
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: Dog not sleeping in the bed, that's a deal breaker
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: for me, personally.
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? Dogs sleeping in the bed you
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: don't like or you do like?
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, I do like it.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: And if any potential partner of mine was adamant that
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: it wasn't going to happen, then.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: then that's a deal breaker.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: That would be the deal breaker for me.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: You know, the only thing is we've got two. And
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: so although you've got a king size, you get two
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Vichyls in there that move around at night. They want
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: to get up. They want to piss. It becomes a
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: pain in the ass.
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: When you get multiple dogs, it becomes a bit of
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: a space issue.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: She's out there right now shaking their head.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: We have a stray that we got now 13 years ago.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Little Charlie. And on the show, he's known as Charlie Cockblocker.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Because if I ever... Hey, Maggie had him trained. Yeah.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: If I ever try to touch Maggie in a husband-wife
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: kind of way, he growls. And if I don't move
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: my hand immediately, he bites me. So he gets to
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: sleep in bed every night. He gets a little outside
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: time about three nights a week. There you go. He
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: gets a little outside time. Lock him up, Jimmy D.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I don't want to exaggerate. Twice a week. Twice a week.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: A little outside time.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I think there should be more restaurants that allow pups.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I'm there to eat. I don't need dogs running around.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: But happy dog day to my dog, Angus, who's in
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: my house. Charlie, if you're watching, I still like you too,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: but Angus is my dog. Favorite dog? All time. For me,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: it's hot. The hot dog and Snoop. Snoop Dogg.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, I love Chili and Bullet. Furia and
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Lucy made a run. I mean, Lady Bird was like
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: the best dog ever. I think everybody gets that one
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: dog in their lifetime that like has that special connection
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: that you never get back.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I thought it was Baxter for me, but it may
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: be this little long-haired Dotson I've got now, Angus. We
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: are the best thing. I mean, everybody that has dogs
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: can relate to this. Maggie will take him on a walk. Now,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: he's a long-haired Dotson. He's this big, and he's that
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: far off the ground. And in our neighborhood, outside our door,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: the end of the green space is probably 150 yards away.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: And I'll step outside if the time's out right, and
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: she'll let him off the leash. And the 150-yard sprint
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: that he runs with those short little legs, nonstop to
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: come running to me that he doesn't do that to
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: anybody else it's amazing to watch his ears are flying
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: backwards he's going so fast the hair is going backwards
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: and he's just you know he's exhausted when he gets
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: there because his little legs that has to be like
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: a 5k run for a little dot.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: No offense to uh angus uh but the tesla brothers
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: both had dachshunds and one still got one and they
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: yap i'm just not a big fan of the dachshund.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Does he yap a lot he he likes to um
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: he likes to be outside yeah Lance likes energetic dogs.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Lance likes dogs that.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Jump on you. I like athletic dogs that are active.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, I like that. I like dogs that are
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: going to jump in the pool.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: That's right. You like wild animals. My dog will sit
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: outside and he'll just stare at sunsets off into the horizon,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: always looks into the breeze so it's blowing his hair.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: But if it's a boring day in the neighborhood and
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: there's nobody running by or riding by or walking by,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: he will occasionally just throw up a little bark bark,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: just two little quick barks. just to see if he
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: can get any other dogs to bark back. So he
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: stirs it up in the neighborhood. That's funny. And inevitably,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: you'll start hearing another dog bark and then another dog bark,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: so he stirs it up. But he's a barker.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: By the way, Brown, people that are indifferent, I know
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: you kind of dislike dogs.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: No, I don't dislike dogs. I'm indifferent.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I was going to say people that are
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: indifferent like the dogs that do nothing. It's almost like
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: a piece of furniture.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I don't want a dog that jumps on me. Absolutely not.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: So I was watching the final part of The Dark Wizard.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I was telling Forrester, gotta watch it. So I finished
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: it up last night when I got home from dinner.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: And it has, this is the first time they introduce
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: a relationship with his dog, Whisper. And I was just
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: waiting for the heartbreaking moment.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, you knew it was coming, right? You don't introduce
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: the dog if something bad doesn't happen.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: But the dog, so he's on a new trick. Now,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: you guys have got to watch it because I'm not
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: into the extreme sports at all. But the bat suit
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: where you jump off the cliff and you glide.
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: And he's going 100 miles an hour, but he's got
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: that damn dog.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: On it with him. The dog's got goggles.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: And people are so pissed, like killing him online, social media.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: So what was the name of the– Was it Spud,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: the Budweiser dog back in the day? Yeah, Spud McKenzie.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: So he's got goggles on like Spud McKenzie used to
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: have on?
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is legit, yeah. I mean, going 100
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: miles an hour with that damn dog off a cliff.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: So anyway, Dark Wizard.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: You'd love it, Tyler.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: I need to watch it.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Happy Dog Day, National Dog Day out there to all
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: that celebrate. Georgia Bulldogs have a chance to be pretty
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: good this year. They do. Probably the best dog in
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: college football, the best– Dog mascot team. It's the best
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: dog mascot that has a chance to win a national championship. Yeah.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, is there even another Bulldog?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Fresno State. Yeah, but the Huskies are a dog.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Mississippi State. Washington Huskies.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd probably be second.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I think that would be second.
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Trying to think of any other contenders. Northern Illinois.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Huskies will not get that. We talked about UConn. They're
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: losing head coach, offensive coordinator. That's right.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Tennessee technically has a dog mascot.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: That's right, Tennessee. I'd still put Washington in front of Tennessee, though.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I think I would, too. I'd have Husky in front
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: of Smokey. I think I would, too. Yeah.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: It's close, but yeah.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Texas A & M has a collie as a mascot.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: That's true. They got Reveille.
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: They're the Aggies, but they got Reveille, the dog. They're
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: probably in front of Tennessee and Washington for me.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Out of a technicality, I would put Texas A &
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: M number two.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Ugg is my favorite, but I'm biased because— I had
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: a Bulldog.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: I actually think Bully is a better-looking English Bulldog than Ugga.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a hot take right there. So Mississippi State's
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: got the better live dog than Georgia does.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Ugga is all white. Bully's got a little bit of
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: color mixed in.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: You know, I think I'm with Brooks on this one.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I think if you made me pick the Bulldog I
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: like better, I'd go Bully over Ugga. Now, I don't
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: know where we are on Bully right now, Mississippi State,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: but the last one I saw in person live of him,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: he looked to be in better shape than the Georgia Bulldog.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: A little thinner?
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: A little thinner, like he's ready to get into a fight.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think Ugga's always been overindulged, right? He
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: lays on ice.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: He puts his balls up on ice.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: That's how English Bulldogs are.
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: I'm looking at Bully now, and Bully looks like a
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: more old English Bulldog. A little longer snout, a little healthier.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: He's different coloring, too. He's a lighter color, right? I mean,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Ugga's always got a little black in him. Bully's got
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: a little brown mixed in him.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: He's such a dog expert.
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Bully looks more like my Ellie Mae.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Okay. I think I'm with Brooks. I think of the
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Bulldog mascots. I like Bully more than Ugga. I'd never
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: really put any thought into this until Brooks brought it up.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: But the Washington Husky smokes both of the Bulldogs.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I think I'm with you on that one, too. I'm
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: not crazy about the Collie at A & M.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't like the Husky, though, because they are active
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: in the shed.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: That's a good-looking Bulldog.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Especially down south.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: You also wouldn't like Huskies because they're very vocal. I
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: don't know if you've seen all the TikToks.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: You would like bulldogs. Yeah, they're kind of quiet.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Bulldogs are great. They don't do anything.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: That's a good-looking dog right there. That's a bully.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and their life expectancy is only like 8 to
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: 10 years.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good-looking dog.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: If you get an old English, they live a little
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: bit longer.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: So happy National Dog Day, and we lost Dolly Parton yesterday,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: 80 years old. And the first thing you have to
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: say about Dolly Parton, away from her Grammys and Golden
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Globe nominations and all that was, that she chose not
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: to be a billionaire. She gave away documented, not counting
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: stuff we don't know about, but what we know about,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: she gave away over $ 500 million in charitable donations in
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: her lifetime.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Well, and just such an influence to so many women. Like,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: if you go on social media the last 12 hours,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: 24 hours, and it seems like 9 out of 10
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: girls are posting about Dolly Parton.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not just women, though, LT. The giving... the giving
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: heart that she had. I mean, she was known as
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: the book lady. I get that.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: But you think about how competitive women are and somebody
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: that is a Hollywood icon, that was a great songwriter
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: and performer. And normally women are so competitive. They don't
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: want to give a lot of love to another woman,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: but everybody is like this. I mean, you talk about
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: salt of the earth, never heard a negative word about
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Dolly Parton. I didn't know she was sick. You know,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: having this conversation yesterday, you thought that it would almost
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: be a Betty White where she would make a run
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: to 100.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she is probably or unfortunately was now
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: probably if you go approval rating of celebrities, probably the
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: highest in the world.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Like I put her on some of our currency in
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: front of some of these politicians.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: The highest in the world. And think about as divided
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: as our world is right now. If you can say that,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: like I would say Dolly is was as close to
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: a 100 percent approval rating as you could possibly get. Like,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: there's probably somebody out there that for some reason didn't
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: like her, and they probably are misinformed on the whole
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: reason they don't like her. They've just made something up
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: out of whole cloth.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: No, it's a good point. Because I don't know why
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: you couldn't like Dolly. Because, like, Taylor Swift, there's a
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: lot of people that hate Taylor Swift. There's a lot
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: of people that love Taylor Swift.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: She's polarizing.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: But Dolly Parton, and I can't think of— She was
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: not polarizing at all. I mean, give me somebody close
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: in sports that's like that.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I cannot. Oh, there's not. Nobody— Nobody doesn't, you know,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: everybody will be cheering for Clemson against LSU because of
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: everything that's going on this offseason with LSU. But not
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: everybody will be cheering for Clemson. Some people can't do it.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: That's right. It's hard to find anyone. Dolly Parton wrote
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: the song, I Will Always Love You. Some may not
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: know that. And the great story was that she loved
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Elvis and Elvis wanted to record that song. And the
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: night before Elvis was going to record that song, who
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: was the colonel or the general? Colonel Tom Parker. Colonel
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Tom Parker said, you know, Elvis doesn't record any song
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: he doesn't own at least 50% of the rights to.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: And Dolly Parton says, that's my song. I'm not giving it.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not signing it over to you. I respect that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: He says, well, we're not recording it then. And then
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Kevin Costner in 1982, I think, came and said, I
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: want to use this in the bodyguard.
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: 92.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Was it 92? Yeah.
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: Okay. Okay.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it was 82.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: No, 82.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: You're right. It was him and Whitney. Yeah. Willie Nelson saying,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I will always love you. He did. He did. 92.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: And Whitney Houston is going to record it if it's okay.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: And she's like, absolutely. She made $ 10 million off of
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: the sales of the Whitney Houston version of it. And
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: she opened an office building in a black neighborhood in
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Nashville and and gave all $ 10 million to that area
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: in Nashville. All the money that the Whitney Houston version
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: of that song made her, she donated it to the
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: under-provided for communities in Nashville. Not one penny off of
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: that for her.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Went to Nashville driving up 65 last week for the
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: first time, and I guess they'd been around the Dolly
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Parton like, Almost like a Buc-ee's, but Dolly Parton. I
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: forgot what they're called.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: The Tennessee Travel Stop.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, has that been something that's been around
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: for a while?
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they just redid it.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: They just opened that one maybe a month or so ago.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: You talking about on exit 22?
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just saw it, and then I saw
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: a couple of billboards for it, and I was like, damn,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: does she have a new thing going?
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, whatever she touched turned to gold. Like,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Dollywood is spectacular from what I've heard. I've never been,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: but I've heard it's clean. The food is good. The
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: rides are surprisingly good. The customer service is tremendous.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: But I think it's only been three years since she,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving, performed in the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader uniform. At
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: that point, I was like, damn, she's in incredible shape
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: for almost 80 years old.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I think she was 78, so I think it's only
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: been two years.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Did we get a cause of death?
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Cancer. She had a very short battle of cancer, unfortunately,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: and it was kept quiet. Nine to five, I heard yesterday.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I was listening to SiriusXM, Prime Country. That's my choice
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: on SiriusXM.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Underrated comedy, by the way.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Nine to five. And they were talking about how the
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: movie was very successful. Dabney Coleman, her, Jane Fonda. Very
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: successful movie. But the song was so popular because of
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: the movie that it was number one on the Hot
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: 100 and number one on the country at the same time,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: which was fairly rare, I think, back then for a
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: country song to be number one in the Hot 100.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Before choosing Texas, absolutely. Yeah. So it hit number one
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: on both and stayed there for a little bit. It
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: was considered her biggest hit. I don't think anybody considers
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: her best song. It was her biggest hit. And a
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: lot of that was because of the movie's success, too.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I saw Julia Roberts in an interview as they were promoting.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: It was a clip last night, an old clip, as
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: they were promoting Steel Magnolias. And Dolly Parton was in that.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Sad movie. It was in that. Absolutely sad. And Julia
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Roberts was like, it was hotter than three hells, paraphrasing.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they filmed in Louisiana.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: On the set. And I'm sitting there. And I've got
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: ice packs on my legs. And, you know, somebody's fanning
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: me and stuff. And Dolly Parton is sitting over there
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: in that wig and makeup on. And she's got nothing.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: And she's like, Dolly, it's okay if you, you know,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: get some ice or get somebody to fan you or something.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: And she was like, I grew up dirt poor with nothing.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: And I've, you know, all my dreams have come true.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: And I'm not going to sit here and complain about being,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: about living out my dreams. And Julie Roberts was like, oh, okay.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: And started talking. shoving away the people that were fanning her.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: I'm good. She's like, I never complained on set again
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: after that. That's funny. So Dolly Parton at the age
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: of 80. We lost her yesterday and America will remember her.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: A lot of people flying the flags at half staff today.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you, I don't think we used her
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: like Morgan Freeman does all these voiceovers. And that is
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: a very soothing voice. But Dolly Parton's got one of
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: the most, the sweetest.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Like just one of those voices that would almost like
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Put you to sleep.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: I got to get to break here. But I did
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: see another interview where they have buried, I think it's
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: at Dollywood, a never released song that she recorded that
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: will be dug up on her 99th birthday in 2045.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I'll do it now. And she had joked with him.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: She goes, it's really a good song. This was in
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: a Jimmy Fallon interview. She's like, it's really a good song.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: And I've gone to him two or three times over
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: the past year saying, let's pull that one out. And
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I'll put a different one in there because I don't
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: know if I'll be around to see it in 2045.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: So in 2045, there will be a never-released, never-heard Dolly
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Parton song coming out. Amazing American, Dolly Parton, passing away
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: at the age of 80. This is the next round
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• 46:18
  Speaker 1: news for Bengal fans. Jamar Chase's injury, not that bad.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: A little hyperextension, but he said, I could have kept playing. uh,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: in a little, uh, practice if it had been a game. Uh,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: so no extended period for Jamar Chase being out. Bad
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: news though for Seattle, their rookie safety, Bud Clark is
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: done for the season. Something to keep an eye on
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. The, uh, exhibition week continues on, um,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: tomorrow night as they do the final weekend of exhibition
• 46:46
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  Speaker 1: Eight rivalry uniforms. You guys judge them for me, A, B, C, D,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: or F. And it's the uniforms you can only wear once.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: And I think the Bears, they'll wear it on Christmas
• 47:07
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• 47:09
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 2: Him and Daniel Boone both.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there were people, I think it was Whitlow, Hunter
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  Speaker 8: All right.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Peyton Manning? I don't know who the other two were.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: I'd go Peyton Manning. Of course, he's not from Tennessee. Yeah.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, Dolly Parton and, yeah, I guess Davey Crackett would.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, who else would be there from Tennessee?
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I got to remember who's born there. Well,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I guess if Clay is your boss, you would put Clay.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: We ain't putting Clay on the Mount Rushmore in Tennessee. Now,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Clay would put himself on the Mount Rushmore in Tennessee.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Hey, good news for Alabama on the injury front. Chris
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Lowe on 3Sports reporting that A.K. Deer, and I think
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: we've said this on the show a couple of times,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: will be back at the end of September in time
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: for that Georgia game. He's dealing with an ankle injury.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: You've heard some loose reports, maybe did a little tightrope
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: surgery there on him, but an ankle injury. But they
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: do expect him back for the October-November part of the
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: schedule for sure.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: E.J.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Crowell, not going to rush him back, Kalen DeBoer says
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: to Chris Lowe on 3Sports, but it's an ankle as well.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: They expect him to be full go by the time
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Alabama plays at Kentucky in Week 2. It sounds like
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: they could have him ready for East Carolina and may
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: choose not to play him in that.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: This is getting somewhat dicey because the only explosive back
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: you had last year was Deer, and he was obviously
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: the small little nuances he wasn't prepared to play more
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: meaningful snaps because he hadn't gotten those yet. And you
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: were hoping that you could break him and Crowell in
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: against East Carolina, right, and get ready for Kentucky and
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: other what should be kind of a tune-up game for
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Florida State. And as you get into this, if you
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: don't have Deer back until Georgia, like, is he going
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: to be able to be even productive?
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: End of September is what Chris Lowe is reporting. That
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: may give him time to get a game under his
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: belt or two before they get to Georgia, which I
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: think is early October, correct? By the way, Noah Rogers,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: who we thought maybe wouldn't be back until very late
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: in the season, he also could be back late September
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: in time for the Georgia game. That's a remarkable recovery because,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: and for those who don't know, he's the receiver that
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: transferred into Alabama. And a lot of people thought he
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: could compete for that third spot with whoever it is
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: going to be in that third spot that is not
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Lottie Brooks and Ryan Coleman Williams. You know, there are
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of people that just gave it to Sedarian Morgan,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: who is a tremendous talent apparently a five-star guy highly
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: recruited there are a lot of people and and anytime
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: kayla deborah has talked about um the receiver spot derrick
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: meadows name continues to come up the big six five
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: receiver so he's apparently had a tremendous fall camp but
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: i think initially a lot of people thought it would
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: be noah rogers and then he got hurt in the
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: spring and i think the expectation for a Maybe the
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: November games he's able to come back and catch a
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: few balls. Boy, if he's back earlier than that, that'd
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: be a heck of a gift. And Lottie Brooks is
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: good to go, ready to go. He could play Saturday
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: if it was good to go. That was kind of
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: what DeBoer had indicated, is that he'll be back. I
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: think it's one of those guys, you know what he
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: can do if he's a little banged up, you let
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: him heal.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I wonder how excited Alabama fans are going into the season.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: I think the Keelan Russell announcement.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: The reason I bring this up is I'm looking at
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: a fire.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I think it did this. And this might not be
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: an indicator of anything. But, you know, the first game
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: is East Carolina coming up. You get tickets as low
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: as fourteen dollars. And just looking at do you think
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: that the most expensive ticket for Alabama is a home
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: ticket or a road ticket?
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's easily a I'd say home Georgia. I would
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: say road ticket, Tennessee or LSU.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Road Ticket Tennessee is by far the biggest, $ 367 get-in.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Georgia at home is only $ 107. I mean, at Vanderbilt,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: $ 229 get-in. At LSU, $ 242. Just these home games, there's
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: not a lot of demand right now. I don't know
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: what that means.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: First of all, it means it's a 100,000-seat stadium. That
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: first game is Saturday at 11 a.m. And it's East Carolina.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: What's the point spread?
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's massive. But no, but Georgia is only $ 107
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: in the week. A week later in a hundred thousand seat,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Neyland is $ 367. I'm saying there's just not a lot
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: of demand for Alabama home tickets right now.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: So that's the Alabama injury report from Chris Lowe. We'll
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: talk about some other quarterbacks coming up in the next hour.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: You'll hear from Josh Heupel on Faison Brandon, what he
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: did to win the job, John Summerall on Aaron Filo
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: down at Florida, Sark on Arch Manning, and Ryan Grubb
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: on Keelan Russell. We talk quarterbacks when we come back
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: on the next round, presented by Hard Rock Bets right
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: here on Sporting States. Our number two of the next
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: round presented by Hard Rock Bets here on Sport and State.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: We're about to talk some quarterbacks in the SEC and
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: have a little fun with some sound from coaches around
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: the conference as we get ready for week zero and
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: week one. No SEC teams, right? Playing in week zero.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: That is correct. That is accurate. Maybe a future one.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe a future one. Which one is a future Florida State?
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I would say NC State or Virginia, North Carolina. I mean,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: we've only got one Big.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Ten team playing this weekend.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: That's USC.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: USC, get a little sneak peek at them on NBC,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: 2 o'clock with Week Zero. uh 72 hours away from
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: those games so getting.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Really close that's crazy isn't it i'm trying to plan
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: out my set are you guys just all immersed on
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: the couch all day saturday uh my daughter has a
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: soccer game other than that yes i've got nothing planned
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: i've actually canceled golf because each window has a set
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: of games to watch as brett mcmurphy pointed out at
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: on three today saturday we embark on the longest college
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: football season we've ever lived in which is great for
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: me like that's not a bad news that's That's great.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: The more the merrier, but this will be the longest
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: college football season we've ever lived in. You know what also?
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: We'll have the longest NFL season.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: That's right, which is great for me. I'll take all
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: of that. I will send a graphic to Forrester here
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: for maybe the next segment. I think it was Crawford
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: with CBS maybe, or maybe it was Bud Elliott. One
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: of them put together the five Saturdays to not get
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: your ass off the couch. Okay. I would say it's
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: all of them, but I'll hear their five.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I'm going to believe September 19th is probably our first
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: of those.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: November 7th, we all know, is the big one. So
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: we'll show you the other ones coming up. But let's
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: talk quarterbacks here. This part of the next round brought
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• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Let's start with Tennessee. The quarterback battle there ends with
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Faison Brandon being QB1, Here's Josh Heupel on naming him
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: the quarterback. She said Faison starter week one. Do you
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: anticipate this being the long-term decision or is this a
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: week-to-week evaluation?
• 55:41
  Speaker 9: Every position is week-to-week. We named him the starter because
• 55:47
  Speaker 9: we believe in the work that he has put in
• 55:52
  Speaker 9: and how he's continued to grow and play throughout training
• 55:56
  Speaker 9: camp and the second week through the second scrimmage. He's
• 56:00
  Speaker 9: earned that right, but just like every position, you can
• 56:04
  Speaker 9: consistently value it.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, so the Brandon expectations at Tennessee is what? What
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: do you need from him? Now, keep in mind, I
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: had the list yesterday.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: It's part of my crystal ball coming up, by the way.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, Josh Heupel, and we'll get that in this segment
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: because I'm interested to see those stats. Josh Heupel's quarterbacks,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: help me out. They've been Joe Milton, Endenhoeker, then Joe
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Milton again. nico and joey here's the here's the thing
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: uh you had to leave early on monday and we
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: discussed this all those quarterbacks that you just mentioned except
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: for aguilar were low single digit interceptions aguilar through 10
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: yeah and i don't know if this is on lance's
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: crystal ball but i think if you're phazon brandon that
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: is number one you got to reduce the turnovers 10
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: turnovers everybody when i say joy aguilar interceptions give me
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: the play you immediately think about It's the interception at
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: the end of the half against Alabama. And those were
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: the types of plays that frustrated you. Like they've got
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: a chance to go in and score right there. That's
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: a one possession game going into the locker room at Bryant-Denny.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's not the best play call. You can argue
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: about that, but you can't make the throw Aguilar made
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: on that play call. And he throws what ends up
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: being a hundred yard pick six by Zabian Brown. Alabama
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: never looks back and you lose that game. that's step
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: one with Faison Brandon. You've got to get back to
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: the low single digits interceptions that the Josh Hypo quarterbacks
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: all but Aguilar have had. Yeah. That's number one. Is
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: his style of play, do you expect it to be
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: more like Hendon Hooker than Joey Aguilar? I mean, Aguilar
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: was a quick fix, right? They had to get him.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: They had to have him, yeah. But this guy was
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: recruited by Hypo. Hooker they picked up where? Virginia Tech's
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: where he was before that. They recruited Nico Amalieva. So
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I would imagine this, he's got a skill set that
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: the ability to run in that high pool offense, they
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: spread you out so much. And then you've got a
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: great running back in Bishop to have the quarterback as
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: an occasional, a willing runner. That adds something to the attack.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Well, and you also have, you know, Braylon Staley coming back.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: So you've got, you know, really good wide receiver along
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: with Deshaun Bishop in that backfield. I don't know what
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: to expect. I just expect Tennessee to score points and
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: put up big numbers.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: They always do.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter who the quarterback is.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Tyler, a cut for now, please. If you can give
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: me Steve Sarkeesian. He gets asked about Arch Manning, where
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Arch is going to this season. I really can't imagine
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: the pressure of being Arch Manning. And there's a lot
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: of pressure on Sarke coaching Arch Manning. But the two
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: seem to have a good relationship.
• 58:42
  Speaker 9: For a second-year starter, fourth-year quarterback, is Arch where you
• 58:46
  Speaker 9: want him to be right now?
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: Do you have any concerns about where he's at? He's
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: had a great camp, man.
• 58:50
  Speaker 8: I'm pumped about it. I think his rapport with Ryan
• 58:54
  Speaker 8: and Cam and Emmitt is really high. I think his
• 58:58
  Speaker 8: rapport with our running backs is really high. Those guys
• 59:00
  Speaker 8: are good players, and they can catch the ball. That
• 59:03
  Speaker 8: takes timing. That takes rapport.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: I'm very excited.
• 59:07
  Speaker 8: I'm excited for him. I think he's going to play
• 59:09
  Speaker 8: really well. I we've got two more weeks to continue
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  Speaker 8: to sharpen up, but I'm very excited for where he's
• 59:15
  Speaker 8: at and the type of camp he's at.
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  Speaker 1: Do you really think Arch is sitting in New York
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  Speaker 1: as one of the four finalists for the Heisman?
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  Speaker 7: I do.
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  Speaker 2: I do. And he is in my crystal ball for Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, coming up. Big stat there for him. I mean,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: if he is sitting there, I don't know how this
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Texas team is not. If he's one of the four.
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  Speaker 1: At least in the semifinals, if not playing for the
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: National Championship.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: It's going to be really difficult for Texas with their
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: firepower to miss the college football playoff. Now, a lot
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: of personnel on that defense that Will Muschamp will take over.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: You know, there is going to be a lot of
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: attrition there, but I just think this offense is going
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: to be so good. You know, we know how good
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Ryan Wingo is. We know the potential of Cam Coleman.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: The two best backs, arguably the two best backs in
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: the portal, in Relique Brown and Hollywood Smothers, both went
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: to Texas. And you saw how Arch played in the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: second half of the season. He also mentioned Emmitt Mosley
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: as that third wide receiver. I mean, it's just, they
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: have so much freaking talent.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: They really do, isn't it? A manageable schedule, relatively speaking.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: A tough schedule for Texas compared to their first two
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: in the SEC, but still not overwhelming. Down in Gainesville,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: John Sumrall on what Aaron Filo did to win that
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: job down there, a guy that they're really pumped about.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say operate at the line scrimmage at
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 7: just a touch higher level and be more efficient. You know,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: there's no surprise to that in spring because he had
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 7: been in the system and Trammell had not. Trammell has
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 7: improved a ton, but I still think we're able to
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 7: operate the full offense at a little bit higher level
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 7: right now with, with Aaron and, um, with the whole package.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 7: And so that's probably the biggest separator. Their arm talent,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: Edgar is very similar. There there's not like what's unique
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 7: is both of them is play style resembles each other
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: more than it differentiates each other. They're kind of similar players,
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  Speaker 7: arm talent wise, running ability. They're similar ish, like on
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 7: the GPS numbers, they're about the same speed. Um, So
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  Speaker 7: I would say it's probably the biggest differentiating factor. It's
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  Speaker 7: just been being able to maybe get us into the
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  Speaker 7: right call, out of the wrong call, check things, alert things,
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  Speaker 7: kill things off of defensive pictures, and then maybe see
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 7: the middle of the field a little bit more in
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 7: the throw game. But both guys have done a lot
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: of great things, but that's probably been the biggest difference
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: is just operation.
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  Speaker 1: And that's because Philo came with his offensive coordinator, Buster Faulkner,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: from Georgia Tech, so he's been in the system. But
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: don't sleep on these Florida wide receivers. Burnell Brown, Dallas Wilson,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: and Eric Singleton. That's a good trio right there of talent.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: And you've got one of the better running backs in
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: the country in Baugh back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jaden Baugh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Singleton was also with Buster Faulkner at Georgia Tech before
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: he went to Auburn. So there is some familiarity there.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: And I thought he would have a tremendous year at
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Auburn last year. I didn't know Auburn was not going
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: to be able to throw the football to anybody. I
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: thought they were going to throw it to Eric Singleton
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: a lot and he was going to have a good year. I,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I'm going to double down on it, Lance. I think
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Eric Singleton will be a playmaker for the Florida Gators.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Should be, but I am not going to bite on
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: a Florida quarterback. I haven't seen good quarterback play for
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Florida since Kyle Trask. And, you know, we got burned
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: on DJ Lagway, how good he was going to be.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, almost one-to-one touchdowns to interceptions, 14 picks last
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: year for Lagway. So inconsistent. I don't believe in Philo.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see how good he's going to be. And if
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: he's really good, then Florida can be, you know, not
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: only a surprise in the SEC, they can be one
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: of the national surprises.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Can I say one more thing, though? It's interesting to hear.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: We've already heard it with Kalen DeBoer this week with
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: Keelan Russell. You just heard it there with John Summerall
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: with Philo. And then also Hypel. Hypel. Thank you very much.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: With Faison Brandon. How careful they have to be when
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: they answer these questions. Because they know these are probably
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: all tight quarterback races. And the backup, the guy that's
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: the backup now, could be playing any time. And you
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: heard all of them just kind of tap dance around
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: so they don't make it sound like this was a blowout. Basically, guys,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: I got two starters. I've just got to pick one,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: is what they're saying.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think in a lot of those situations,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: that's probably the case.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: It probably is. I mean, these were probably all that close.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Here's Ryan Grubb, Alabama's offensive coordinator, on Keelan Russell's confidence
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: as a sophomore, listed as a sophomore. who's getting ready
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: to make his first start against East Carolina?
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  Speaker 5: Well, two things with Keelan. I've always thought he's a
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: very confident kid. But at the same time, I think
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: there's people that present as confident. There's people that are authentic.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: And I think that that's the part for Keelan, you know,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: just stressing to him, just keep being yourself. And that's
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: really what draws his teammates to him is that He's
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: an authentic guy. You know, the enthusiasm, the confidence.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Is all real.
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  Speaker 5: And, you know, when he doesn't know, he's not too
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: ego driven to ask. You know, and those are the
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: things I think that draws teammates to him.
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  Speaker 1: So a confident guy and a guy who's not afraid to.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: And this is why I always thought it was a
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: close competition. He's not afraid to throw it into some
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: tight windows, which occasionally happens. will turn the football over.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: It'll be an interception. There's a difference between an interception
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: and a tight window when you've got to throw it
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: on third down or fourth down and just a bad
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: read interception that could cost you the football game. There
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: are some situations you've got to have the confidence enough
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  Speaker 1: to throw it into a tight window to give you
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  Speaker 1: a chance to move the chains.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about you guys, but if you listed
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: one through four your concerns offensively, Kalen Russell would be
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: my least concern on this offense.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And in fact, LT, so much so that I start
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: wondering how much he can help one, two.
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  Speaker 3: And three.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would go, and you guys jump in whenever,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: offensive line biggest concern.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: That's number one.
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  Speaker 2: I would go running backs number two. I would go
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: wide receivers number three, and then I would go Keelan
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Russell number four.
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  Speaker 1: I might, yeah. I said this back in the spring,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: so much more RPO this year for Alabama than Something
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: they haven't done since Kalen DeBoer got there as much.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Wide receiver and quarterback go so hand in hand. So
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: this is a difficult thing to say.
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  Speaker 2: But Ty Simpson was so much better than the receivers
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: He was, but I expect Ryan Coleman Williams to have
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: a bounce back season. I expect him this year to
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: look much more like he played his freshman year. I
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: think Lottie Brooks, sky's the limit for this guy. I
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: think he can be fantastic. And I am almost to
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: the point, because I used to say if Sedarian Morgan
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: is what everybody says he is, this will be the
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: best receiving core in the Southeastern Conference. But I'm almost
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: willing to say right now what I've seen and heard
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: about Derek Meadows, some of these other guys, I think
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: they're just fine at receiver. I might even put that
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  Speaker 1: fourth in Keelan Russell third. in my list well i
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: mean but again they go so hand in hand i would.
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  Speaker 2: Go receivers third i mean i think right now the
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: big question mark is can't alabama run the football it
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: starts with that you're one and two you're one and
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: two are spot on to me offensive line and running
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: backs and again those almost go hand in hand.
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  Speaker 1: Um lt's got some crystal ball stats that could help
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: some sec contenders we'll get to that right now but
• 1:06:25
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• 1:06:29
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• 1:06:40
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• 1:06:51
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• 1:06:54
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• 1:06:59
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• 1:07:03
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• 1:07:07
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  Speaker 1: All right. So to set this up, you've got a
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: stat looking into your crystal ball that if an SEC
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: team hits this one, their season goes much better.
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  Speaker 2: I believe if these, I've got eight contenders. I think
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: there's only eight teams that realistically can get to an
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: SEC championship game this year. There might be surprises in
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: first year guys like John Summerall or maybe an Alex Golish,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: but I believe there are eight teams that could actually
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: get to Atlanta first week of December. And if they
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: hit these marks, I think there's a good chance they're there.
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  Speaker 2: I'll start with Tennessee just because we brought it up.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Faison Brandon has got to keep the turnovers in single digits.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: If you go back, If you look at the end
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: of the year and he has got nine or less interceptions,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: I think Tennessee's in a really good spot. Jim Knoll's
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: taking over that defense. You've got a 1,000-yard rusher coming
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: back into Sean Bishop. Heupel's two best teams in 2022.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: I still don't know how they didn't stick the landing
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: and get to a 14 playoff. That team was so
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: freaking good, and Hendon Hooker only threw two picks the
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: entire year. And then a team I didn't think was
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: really good, but they could run the football and play
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: great defense was 2024, where they get to a college
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: football playoff, ultimately get blown out by Ohio State, but
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Nico was your quarterback, only five picks. Limit the turnovers
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: in that offense, you win a lot of games. That
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: would be Tennessee.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: And the way they spread it out, it should be
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: some easy reads for Faison to help it out. Byron
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Brown will be playing the same offense at Auburn, ironically
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: a respected defensive coordinator with DJ down at Auburn like
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: you've got now with Jim Knowles at Tennessee you don't
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: expect Heupel to to slow it down or play towards
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: his defense he's gonna keep playing the same stuff if
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: I could add to that stat Hendon Hooker had five
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: total interceptions in two years is crazy and and um
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: last year they had 10 so I mean you've got
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: to cut that number down I mean five interceptions is
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: two combined seasons It's nuts. They just did not turn
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: the ball over.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: When this came down to McIntyre or Brandon, I'm sure
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: that was what factored in the most for Heupel is
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: who's going to protect the football. You guys give me
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: another one of these seven. You can just call out
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: a team. Okay, let's go Georgia. The Georgia Bulldogs get
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: back to attacking the quarterback. I think if you look
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: up and they've got 35-plus sacks, Georgia, I mean, look,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: they're going to be there anyway, but I think Georgia
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: is going to be a dominant Georgia team again. If
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: you look at last year, 20 sacks for Glenn Schumann's unit.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: They gave up 20 sacks offensively. That is an extremely
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: low number. If you just go back the previous four years,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: they averaged 37 sacks per year. If you go back
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: to the national championships and back-to-back years, Those two seasons,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: they averaged 42 sacks per game. That's more than double
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: the production they had last year. And they were still
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: one of the best teams in college football. If they
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: can get back to the 35-plus sacks, this will be
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: a dominant unit.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: But it's not just sacks, Brownie. Kirby Smart, when he
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: was in Tuscaloosa with Nick Saban, and he carried this
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: saying over, and he said it last year a couple times.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: It's not just sacks. It's pressuring the quarterback. You may
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: not get an official sack, but if you impact him,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: making him throw sooner, that helps the defense.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: It may not be technically a sack, but at least
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: a pressure on the quarterback. That was off a little
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: bit last year as well. 20, though, but in their last— Yes,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: it was.
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  Speaker 2: That's a tremendous drop.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: 20 is a tremendous drop. Their previous low of the
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: last six years was 37. I mean, 17 below what
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: their previous low was. I don't know what happened. And
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  Speaker 1: that's why I believe.
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  Speaker 2: They can get it back to that 35 number, and
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  Speaker 2: I think they've got the best opportunity to get the
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: SEC back in that national championship conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Brownie, pick a team.
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  Speaker 8: LSU.
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  Speaker 2: LSU, they need to identify a 1,000-yard rusher. Like, the
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: last LSU Tiger to rush for 1,000 yards, any ideas?
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: I'd be very surprised if you guys can get this.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels? Is that who it was?
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: Last running back.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Running back, okay. Last running back to do it is
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: going to be the... Fournette?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: It's not Fournette.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: Was it... Clyde Edwards-Alaire in 2019?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: Tyrian Davis-Price. It was in 2023, so it wasn't long ago.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: But if you look at LSU, or excuse me, Lane
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Kiffin's offenses... In Oxford. And those were great offenses. You
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: always had a 1,000-yard rusher. Three of the last four
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: years in Oxford, they had a 1,000-plus-yard rusher. Last year,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: Caden Durham led the LSU Tigers with 505 yards. LSU
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: just averaged 3.6 yards per carry. You've got Harlem Berry,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: who was a little disappointing in his five-star freshman season.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: But between Harlem Berry, Caden Durham, identify who that 1,000-yard
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: rusher is going to be to complement Sam Leavitt.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go Texas.
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  Speaker 2: Texas, for me, it's simple. Road Arch has got to
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: be better. If you go back and you look at
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: Road Arch last year, Arch Manning on the road. Ohio State,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: they lose 14-7. 17-30, one touchdown, one pick. Florida, they
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: lose 29-21. 16-29, two touchdowns, two picks.
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  Speaker 6: Kentucky.
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  Speaker 2: They win the game 16-13 overtime, 12 of 27. Twelve completions. Yeah,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: zero touchdowns. Mississippi State, 45-38 in overtime. They win the game.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: All the numbers were padded in the second half with
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: that comeback. He was 29-46, three touchdowns, one pick. And
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: then the 35-10 loss to Georgia, 27-43, one and one,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: one touchdown.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: One pick.
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  Speaker 2: Sacked 23 times last year. 18 sacks were on the road.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: He has got to play better on the road, which
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: I believe he will. You talk about the pressure on Arch.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: I think there was more pressure last year, and it
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: really showed on the road. But if Arch can play
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: much better football on the road, Texas will, you know, be.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Really, really good. Oh, really, really good. That's a remark.
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  Speaker 1: I had not thought of that. But now as I
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: go back and think of all those games, I'm like, yeah,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: you're right. He was terrible on the road. The State
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: game is the one that looks good. But as you
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: said in the first half, he was awful against State.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: That was all second half yardage. So there was still
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: an issue there playing on the road.
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  Speaker 2: They really shouldn't have survived either Kentucky or State.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: No, absolutely not. So fortunate to win both those. Pick
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: another contender, Brownie. We've done Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, and Texas. Oklahoma.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: Lance loves him some Sooners this year.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: Let's see what he's got on Oklahoma.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: I hate to go back to the quarterback, but I will.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: Mateer's got to be better.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: If you look at year one in the SEC, and
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: we can say it was the thumb injury, and it
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: probably was, but the fact of the matter, his complete game,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: dual threat quarterback, only 22 total touchdowns. If you go
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: back to his final year at Wazoo– 44 touchdowns at Wazoo.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: Let's split the difference. If you can tell me John
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: Mateer has 33-plus total touchdowns, and I think that is
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: very doable with some of the skill that he's got
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: coming back and even adding. A guy like Terrell Harris
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: out of West Virginia. A guy like Parker Livingstone out
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: of Texas. If he can get to that 33 number
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: in year two under Ben Arbuckle, Oklahoma's going to be.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: In a great spot. It's more than double what he
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: threw last year. That'd be a significant improvement. I mean,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: he threw 14 touchdowns last year.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: I'm just talking about 33 total touchdowns. Split the difference.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: 22 last year total. 44 two years ago at Wazoo.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: Let's get it in the middle. Let's get it around
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: 30 plus. And I think Oklahoma's in a great spot.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not blown away by Arbuckle's play call-in. Well, some
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: people pointed at that as where material started to slip,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: that it was less about the thumb injury and more
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: about Arbuckle got really predictable. The best defensive minds in
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: the country got a lot more tape on it. The
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: SEC team, once they got some tape on that offense
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: at Oklahoma and out of Washington State, they had it
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: dialed in.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree, but you guys will also give me
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: a bad offensive line can make your play calls look.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: A lot worse.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: They couldn't run. They were Alabama West. They just simply
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: could not run the football.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: And when we get to Alabama, I'll get to that point.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: But Alabama had a better quarterback, and that's what bailed
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Alabama out. I mean, if Ty Simpson had been playing
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, they probably are slightly better. Well, let's do Alabama.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: Alabama has got to get up a full yard of
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: production on the ground. 3.4 yards per carry in 2025.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Saban's last year, they were at 4.3. The last national championship,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: they averaged five yards a carry in 2020. Only Oklahoma
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: and Alabama made the college football playoff with less than
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: four yards a carry. The other 10 playoff teams averaged
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: over 4.2 yards per carry. If Alabama can get it
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: up from 3.4 to 4.4 per carry, Alabama is going
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: to be a great spot.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Can they do that? I don't know.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: That doesn't seem like a high bar, does it?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Again, your two biggest concerns on Alabama's offense are offensive
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: line and running back. What impacts the run game the most?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Offensive line and running back is too big a concern.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: So have they fixed that? Who knows? That being the
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: offensive line.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: That is a pathetic number, though. 3.4 yards per carry.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: But it's also amazing that Kalen DeBoer and Ty Simpson
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: were able to get that team. And I got to
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: give credit to, obviously, what Alabama did defensively. But 3.4
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: yards per carry is pathetic.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: I will say this. I think, and think is all
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: I'm willing to say, I think Alabama has fixed the
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: running back room. Now, there's injuries there, so... You know,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: that's going to impact that, right? But I think they
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: fixed the running back room. To your point that your
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: offensive line may have done a good enough job if
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: your running backs could hit holes timely with the right matter,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: choosing the right running path, maybe the production would have
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: been a little bit better. Yeah, my point, actually, and
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: you're right about that, but my point actually was there
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: was an issue at running back room, and I think
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: they fixed it.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 8: I don't.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: Don't know if they fixed offensive line. We won't know
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: until we see it. I mean, a coaching change there
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: is what they hope is. And there's going to be
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: some new bodies there, obviously. But some of those bodies
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: went on to the NFL. It's not like they were bombs.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: They're hoping the coaching changes fixed it. Your turn to pick, Brownie.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know what we're down to.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: You've got A & M and Ole Miss.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: Let me hear A & M.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: A & M, I've said this all summer. Marcel Reed
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: has got to take it up a letter grade. He's
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: got to be better. Better than a one-to-one touchdown to
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: interception ratio against top 25, specifically top 10. You look
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: at last year against top 25 teams, six touchdowns, seven picks.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: If we focus on their two losses against the only
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: two top 10 teams they played to end the season
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: against both Texas and Miami, zero touchdowns in those two
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: games and four picks.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if Forrester had the Texas A &
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: M scheduled up right now, we could almost pick out
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: the games that Marcel would struggle in. because he seems
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: to struggle in the biggest games late in the year.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: And this year, the ending for Texas A & M
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: is so hard, November Marcel has to be so much better.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and unfortunately, there is going to be an excuse
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: if Marcel isn't. It's going to be Colin Klein is
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: taking over Kansas State, and you've got a new, you know,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: and Holman Wiggins, a new offensive coordinator, taking over and
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: calling the plays for the Aggies. But Marcel Reed, there's
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: no excuse. Like Marcel Reed, he had the reins last year.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: They had a fantastic regular season. They got to a
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: college football playoff. They hosted a game. But he was
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: awful in both of those games against Texas and Miami.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: He's got to be better in those spots.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: He couldn't push the ball down the field either late.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, his yards per attempt against Texas and Miami
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: were 5.6 and 6.1.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: Awful.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: And then the last one is Ole Miss.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: So Ole Miss was the number two overall offense in
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: college football in 2025. Trinidad Chambliss didn't start the first
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: couple of games, but in 13 starts, he had almost
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: 4,500 total yards. I think if he can just get
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: from start to finish back to around that 4,500 total
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: yard mark, doesn't have that sophomore slump, so to speak,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: Ole Miss is going to be right there back in
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: the mix.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: One of the biggest storylines in college football that I
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: don't think anybody's talking about is the loss of coordinators
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: at some contenders. Oregon lost both of theirs. That's right.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: Ohio State lost their offensive coordinator. Ole Miss lost their
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: play caller, man. And that's a big storyline for me.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Is it Joe Judge that's going to call play? That's
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: what everybody assumes. But, you know, in a sense, they
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: lost their defensive coordinator, too. I mean, I know he's
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: still on the staff, but he's the head coach now.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: That's right. And I don't know that Pete Golding's going
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: to call the defensive signals. So, I mean, in a sense,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: they lost both coordinators. Even though he's still there, he's
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: doing something different. See, I like Georgia. They got both
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: their coordinators with Kirby. I like Alabama. They still got
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: their coordinators. There's some of these we've lost some key parts.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: What can they do?
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: It eventually caught up with Clemson. But we saw year in,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: year out, Dabo started to lose those coordinators. You saw
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: it with Alabama at Nick Saban. And, you know, some
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: of these programs can just survive. Like, I just assume
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: that Oregon's going to be fine without both Tosh Lapoi
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: going to Cal now and Will Stein going to Kentucky. But,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, it is a point to look at. And
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: I do think this Ole Miss offense, I mean, the
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: great news is you got Kiwan Lacy and Trinidad Chambliss back.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: but the identity seems so different.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a nuance to calling plays. That's crystal
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: ball stats from Lance. Great job there on eight key
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: stats with eight contenders that could make them national champion
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: or conference championship contenders. When we come back, I don't
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: think I remember Vince Young's ending at Tennessee with the
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: Titans this way, but there's a whole Netflix documentary out. Basically,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: it's Vince Young versus... Their head coach back in his day,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher. Pretty alarming comments in this documentary. We'll talk
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: about that next, right here on the next round, presented
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: by Hard Rock Bets on Sporting State. Netflix has a
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: documentary out, and it's involving Vince Young and Jeff Fisher,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: and it's called Untold, the Testimony of Vince Young, a
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: documentary that gives you a behind-the-curtain look at the infamous
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: internal conflict between a young star quarterback, and a grizzled
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: head coach. Jeff Fisher says in the documentary, Bud Adams
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: was obsessed and consumed with drafting Vince. To take you
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: back then, Norm Chow was the offensive coordinator in Tennessee.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: He wanted to go Matt Leinart with the third overall pick.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I remember saying this and was completely wrong.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: I thought they should have gone Matt Leinart too.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher wanted to go with Jay Cutler.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: That would have been the best option.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of those three, that turned out to be the
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: best NFL career by far, really. And the owner, Bud Adams,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: wanted to go with Vince Young mainly because, according to
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: the documentary, Bud Adams hated the mayor of Houston, Mayor
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Bob Lanier. It had gotten so contentious between Bud Adams
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: when he couldn't get a new stadium deal, couldn't get
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: a new stadium deal in Houston, and ended up moving
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: the franchise to Nashville in 1997. And Bud Adams was like,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: this is the quote, Adams allegedly said, we're drafting Vince
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: because I want to see the bitch jump, end quote.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: And that's what was said in there. So he gets,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: Vince Young gets there, and he and Jeff Fisher apparently
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: just never got along. Like he was late. He says,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: I've only got a few rules. And one of them,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: you can't be late for the team bus or team plane.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: That's a fair rule.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: I would say. Vince Young says he got caught behind
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: a funeral procession, couldn't pass, and is pulling up to
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: the airport for, I think it was an exhibition game
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: they were leaving for. And in the documentary, he says,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: I can see them just starting. They see me and
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: I'm getting out of the car and they start closing
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: the door on me. And I can hear the team yelling.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: from inside the plane, there he is, there he is,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: there he is. And Fisher goes ahead and closes the gate,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: and they leave without him. And it just becomes a
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: tremendous battle. They get into the documentary.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: No more of this 8-8 bullshit.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: That's right. We ain't got a quarterback. They get into
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: the documentary, and they say, listen, there was a day
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: they couldn't find Vince Young after a loss, and Young
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: just wasn't returning texts. He was taking the loss bad.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: And he comes to practice on Monday. And Fisher has
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: a he was, according to Jeff Fisher, he's worried about
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: Vince Young that he was so depressed that he may
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: have harmed himself. And so they've got a police department
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: negotiator there who takes the wallet and keys away and
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: is sitting down with Vince Young outside the football building, talking,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: as Vince describes in the documentary, really slow. Vince, are
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: you OK? And Vince says, there's a camera crew hidden
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: in the bushes over there from a local TV station.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: Vince Young believes it was a total Jeff Fisher setup.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: He said, this guy's questioning me, giving me questions. And
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: I keep looking over at Jeff Fisher like, you could
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: shut this down anytime you want to. And you're just
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: letting this go on, embarrassing me outside the football building
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: so the TV cameras could get it. Now, that's Vince
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: Young's side of the story.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: There are three sides to every.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: Story, right? The truth will be somewhere in the middle
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: You guys were out one day when I had Jeff
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Fisher on the show. I do remember that. He was
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: such a good interview. I've always been a Jeff Fisher
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: fan until he took the Rams over. He seemed to
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: get really lazy in those last couple of years in
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: the NFL. But I knew it was contentious. But I
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: always thought he was a pretty good coach with the Titans.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously got to a Super Bowl. McNair almost
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: pulled that one out of his ass.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: He got a lot out of Steve McNair, don't you think?
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: If anybody that's interested in Jeff Fisher's story... I can't
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: make this up. Chad Withrow and Jonathan Hutton, the morning
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: guys on Sporting State that will be in town tomorrow,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: they've hung out with Jeff Fisher. They have some incredible
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: Jeff Fisher stories.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to hear what they think of this
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: Netflix documentary.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I bet they've seen it just based on
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: the players.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: That was a terrible quarterback draft, though, by the way.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: Terrible.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: I was just looking back at that draft. I was like,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: all right, let's just play the revisionist history and say
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: who the Titans should have taken. There was Cutler. That
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: was the best quarterback. Here are the rest of them
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: in that draft.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: But real quick, did you guys not believe both Vince
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: Young and Matt Leinart were can't miss?
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: I get sucked into almost all the quarterbacks. I did too,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: but they were so freaking good in college. I mean,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: your draft that year, Jim, was Vince Young, Matt Leinart,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Jay Cutler, first round. They were all top 11 picks.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: Second round, Kellen Clemons, Tavares Jackson. Remember the Alabama State player, Minnesota?
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: He got some action in Minnesota and Seattle.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: Started a playoff game.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Third round, Charlie Whitehurst, Brody Croyle. Out of Alabama,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: went to Kansas City. Got starts number one a game.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: Charlie Whitehurst started a playoff game for a 7-9 Seattle team.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Fourth round, Brad Smith out of Missouri. Fifth round, Engel
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: Martin out of Furman. Omar Jacobs out of Bowling Green.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: Sixth round, Reggie McNeil, Bruce Gradkowski, and then our buddy
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: DJ Shockley. Shock was the Falcons pick in the seventh round.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, there was not a quarterback that did anything
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: in the league.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Gradkowski hung on for a while as a backup.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: That was a terrible draft to need a quarterback. Terrible draft.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: If I ask you franchises that you just aren't buying
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: into and then ones that you are buying into in
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: the next three years in the NFL, I'll just start
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: with the Titans. Three years from now, what are the Titans?
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: I told you, I said this back in the summer,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: I would buy Titan stock right now. I think they're
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: an ascending franchise. I like Robert Sala. I think Sala
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: was just in a tough spot with the Jets. Who
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: has won as the Jets coach? They never have a
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: good quarterback. They're just a mess of a franchise. I
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: think Salah is a good coach. I was high on
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: Cam Ward, and I'm not going to make all my
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: decisions based on preseason, but boy, he's been bad in
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: his second preseason.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: I like Cam Ward, and I thought he would be
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: really good, and he still might be good. I just
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: don't see a lot of skill there. We kind of
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: went through the receiver position yesterday. You know, Wondell Robinson,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: you've got Calvin Ridley there, and you've obviously got Cornell Tate,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: who has yet to catch a pass. In the preseason,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: I don't like the running backs. I would hold on
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: the Titans.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: Yep, I'll probably ball to her over there. But I
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: would not buy there. Okay, so give me somebody you
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: would buy in the next three years, a franchise you love.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: I would buy the Chicago Bears. I saw enough for
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams in crunch time when big, big plays mattered. Now,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: he's all over the place, you know, the first three quarters.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: But I do think that'll settle down a little bit
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: under Ben Johnson. I think Luther Burden's going to be
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: really good when he comes back from the injury. Colston
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: Loveland is one of the best tight ends.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: In the NFL.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: So I think year two, Ben Johnson, they might not
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: have the same record. They might take a step back
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: in the NFC North. But I think eventually in the
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: next three years, they are going to be a major
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: player in the NFC.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: Brownie, who are you buying next three years in the NFL?
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: I want to buy the Atlanta Falcons. I really do
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: want to buy the Atlanta Falcons. My problem with buying
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: the Falcons, and I'm almost still willing to buy, I
• 1:27:20
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  Speaker 2: I agree. Like Stroud is not as bad as his
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the one I'll throw into our conversation, to me,
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  Speaker 2: It's Law Tech.
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  Speaker 1: But the game date will wow you. It's August the 25th.
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  Speaker 1: August 25th, which would be what we call nowadays Week Zero.
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  Speaker 1: you to play a week zero game. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it's the worst strategy. You're able to spread it out
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  Speaker 1: are usually really good because there's so few games and
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, though, how you qualify to do it
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  Speaker 4: You do.
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be in Brazil that's what allowed it to
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  Speaker 1: be week zero they had to reapply to keep it
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  Speaker 1: week zero when it moved back stateside here after the
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  Speaker 1: Brazil part got canceled Alabama La Tech and what will
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  Speaker 1: Brooks did you tell me give me Brooks microphone Tyler
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  Speaker 1: is this Alabama's earliest game ever.
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  Speaker 3: One of the earliest. It'll be the earliest since 1986.
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  Speaker 3: This is really strange, actually. Alabama played on a Wednesday.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: August 27, 1986, a 16-10 victory over Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. In East Rutherford, New Jersey. I don't remember it
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  Speaker 1: being a Wednesday, but I remember the game. I don't either.
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  Speaker 1: For me, it was Labor Day night, but I guess
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't. No, Labor Day night, they played Georgia. You
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: remember that pump block game? I believe that was Labor
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: Day night, if I'm not mistaken. I do remember that
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  Speaker 1: Alabama-Ohio State game being earlier in the year. I did
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  Speaker 1: not remember it being a Wednesday night. That is a
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  Speaker 1: random night to play a football game.
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  Speaker 2: It really is.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's do the Big Ten first loss. to
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  Speaker 1: at Hard Rock Bets. Forrester is going to just pick
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  Speaker 1: up a random Big Ten contender, and we'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: who the first loss is. So, Forrester, start us off.
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  Speaker 1: Whichever one you want to go with, we'll jump on
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  Speaker 1: there and try to do this and try not to
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: back ourselves, paint ourselves into the corner. So who's up first?
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  Speaker 1: I've got to remember I had Texas beating Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: for later.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: That is Oregon's schedule.
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  Speaker 2: At USC, September 26th for me. All right.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: So that's week four as we go across. They beat Boise,
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, Portland State, and USC. You got USC beating them.
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  Speaker 7: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Brownie? I think I'm going to have them beating USC,
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  Speaker 1: but losing at Ohio State Saturday, November 7th. That'll be
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: my first loss for them. I'm going to go with Brown.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go Ohio State. I think they get USC. Nebraska, Illinois, Northwestern, UCLA,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: that middle line's pretty good for them. The ending's pretty tough, though.
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State and Michigan.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Michigan State and Washington. But I'll go Ohio State, too.
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  Speaker 1: I say 8-0, and they lose game nine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that game is massive in the Coliseum. I'll come
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  Speaker 2: back when we get to USC, and I'll kind of
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: explain I'm threading the needle, but I think USC's going
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: to get them.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Who's up next, Forrester? This is Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: Ball State... Texas is next there. Anybody stopping at Texas?
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  Speaker 2: I've got Texas winning that game September 12th. I think
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a hell of a game, but
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: I think Texas will return the favor from last year.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: When we did this exercise yesterday in the SEC, I
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: had Texas winning this game consistently. I will keep them
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: winning this game. I think I had Ohio State winning
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: this game yesterday, so I'll keep going. I think they
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: get Indiana. I'm going to go at USC. I think
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: USC gets Ohio State on the road at the Coliseum.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: Halloween.
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  Speaker 6: Halloween.
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  Speaker 1: Before the Oregon game. USC dressed as a contender that night?
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: Maybe. We can only hope.
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  Speaker 1: Give me another one, Forrester. Big Ten contenders first losses. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: is that Trent Dilford? No, it's Kurt Cignetti.
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  Speaker 2: I am going at Michigan October 24th.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: That Northwestern game is interesting. Yeah. no i i thought
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: that was on the road i thought they were opening
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: a new stadium they're not.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: That's in state yeah they've got four straight home games
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: their first road game in piscataway rutgers at nebraska so
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: lance you were out friday yep i did this with
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: dunaway i was like when you see these teams going
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: these long win streaks like you know regular season win
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: streaks or whatever and i brought up uh jim brought
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: up i can't remember who you brought up somebody uh Oh,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: it was an Alabama team. Lost to Mississippi State on
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: the road in Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: 1980. Yeah, 1980. Then I brought up that Gene Stallings
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  Speaker 1: team that went from early 91 all the way into
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: 93 without a loss. And LSU, a bad Curly Hallman
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: LSU team, beat them in Bryant-Denny. Remember, Miami had that
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: long win streak, and Arizona ended it. Bear down defense
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: ended it. It frequently comes where you don't expect it.
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  Speaker 2: The attention drifts a little bit. That's right. I just believe,
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  Speaker 2: based on the first four games, the first five games,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: even the first six games at Nebraska, it gets real
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: Ohio State. But then I think they wake up. So
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: I think they're 6-0. I think they beat Ohio State.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: And then... The come down when they go to the
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: big house the very next week against an improved Michigan
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: team with Underwood in that second year with Kyle Whittingham,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: with Jason Beck running that offense, I think that's going
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: to be the come down after beating Ohio State. So
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: that'll be, at that point, 23 consecutive wins.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: My theory is with Ohio State and Michigan on the horizon,
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  Speaker 1: their first loss is at Nebraska. I'll go with Brown.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: I'll take Nebraska. I think that's the loss that surprises you.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: You're like, wow, I did not expect Indiana's win streak
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: to end And Lincoln, Nebraska. And then you start talking
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: Indiana misses the playoffs at that point. Well, yeah, because
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: their next two games are against Ohio State and Michigan. Yeah.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: I'll ride with you. I'll go Nebraska on that one.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: Not going to blow me away. if they come back
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: and beat Ohio State right after that. About eight minutes
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: left in the show here, Forrester. Who's next here? This
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: is USC, LT.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: You said you had a point to make here.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: Go first.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have got USC's first loss October 3rd
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: to Washington. I believe that USC is going to come
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: out on fire. I think they're going to start 5-0
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: after that Oregon win. People are going to be, this
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: is the year for Lincoln Riley. I think they're going
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: to lose that home to Washington, and then I think
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: they're going to pop back up when we get to
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: Penn State. I'll tell you this, I think they're going
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: to beat Penn State on that whiteout. But I think
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: they're going to lose that Washington game after there's so
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: much momentum with a 5-0 start.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: Tricky ending, because I think UCLA will be very improved
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: with Nico back at the end. So you end the season,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: Ohio State, Indiana. maryland ucla yeah i got to be
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: consistent here because i had oregon beating them earlier so
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: i'll say their first loss is saturday september 26 in
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: the mausoleum against the oregon ducks same thing i said
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: give me the next one for sure we have to
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: be consistent you guys are so pretty i know little
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: helmet schedule and what's the team here that's going to
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: be the old flying wing jim go with the most
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: helmets on there okay it's week.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: Two it's oklahoma rolling into the big house Oklahoma's the
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: better team this year. Oklahoma's got more stability there. Well,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: they whipped them last year. Yeah, I think it's going
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: to take Michigan, you know, filling it out a little
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: bit with that offense and with Underwood again in year two.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: I think it's week two against the SEC.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: I'll ride with you this time, LT.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: I'll go Oklahoma as well over Michigan. And then after that,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: I can make a case for Matt Campbell coming in
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: there and getting that win on homecoming. on Penn State
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: yeah from Penn State or Indiana I mean Oklahoma's probably
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: the right answer there um I'm just I I'm not
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: as high on the Sooners as Lance is and I
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know where you kind of stand on Oklahoma
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: Jim what what's uh what's seven and five for Kyle
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: Winningham what does that look like to you guys yeah
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: if he ends up seven and five not good at
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: all yeah so if they lose to Oklahoma Oregon, Ohio State.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: Penn State, Indiana, Oregon, and Ohio State. So your seven
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: wins are going to be UCLA, Michigan State, Rutgers, Minnesota, Iowa, UTEP,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: and Western Michigan. That is not going to go over
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: too well.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: Underwood is improved, which he should be in this new offense.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to get better each and every week.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: Get them early.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: All right, Forrester, what's next? This is Penn State.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: I think it's USC. USC. And that is early October.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: What do you have USC's record here? I'm trying to
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: keep up with this.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: I got them at 9-3.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: 9-3, okay.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're giving a lot of Big Ten teams their
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: first loss.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay. I'm going to go off the board.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say at Northwestern to open up new
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: Ryan Field. Oh, wow. Crazy atmosphere.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: I think it's a Friday night game.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to go Penn State drops one at Northwestern.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: I was going to say that seems like such a
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: Pat Fitzgerald thing to do, but he's at Michigan State now.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: He is. Brown, where's your first loss? A USC game
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: being at night kind of changes it for me. My
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: concern with USC was that was going to be fly
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: all the way across the country and play that body
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: clock game. I'll take USC. I think Lance is right
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: on that one. Saturday, October 10th. That could be an
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: easy three-game losing streak right there if they were to
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: drop Northwestern with USC and Michigan on the horizon. Yeah,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, that is a bit of a trap game
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: for them. But a really good schedule for Penn State.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: Penn State's one of those teams that When we get
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: to Selection Sunday, that if they're 9-3 or 10-2, I'm
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: not sure they should be judged the same way as
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: other 9-3 and 10-2 teams.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: They're missing the three best teams. They could miss every
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: team that makes the playoffs from the Big Ten this
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: year in Oregon, Ohio State, and Indiana. I said this yesterday.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: If USC had this schedule, Penn State's schedule, they would
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: be a college football playoff team for sure.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many more we have.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: I think there's one. I think it's Washington.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Washington is next.
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  Speaker 2: I think Washington goes the deepest. I think they make
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: it all the way at 10-0 to November 21st, and
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: I think they end up losing their final two games
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: of the season. And then I think it becomes, like,
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: what did they do to earn this? They beat SC,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: depending on how good SC is on the road. But
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: the committee's going to have a little bit of trouble
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: at that point. Would you guys agree if their two
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: losses of the final two games of the season to
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: go 10-2 against what seems like an easier Big Ten schedule?
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, in that case, they would need USC to
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: be good. Because they would have beaten USC. They would
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: need Penn State to be good. And then I don't
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: know who else they're going to need to handle. Nebraska, maybe?
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: They need Iowa to be pretty good. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't have a whole lot of... We know where
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: Iowa's going to be ranked then, Jim. It's 24th, right?
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: But your scenario is they're 10-0.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: And then they lose to, I assume, two teams you
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: think are in the playoffs. Yep.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: Indiana and then Atta-Wergen.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: So they're 10-2. And then I'm deciding as a selection
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: committee member... Do they belong in the playoffs because their
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: only losses were to playoff teams? And that's always an
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: interesting debate. Do you have any wins over playoff teams? No.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: I'll give you another scenario here. Let's just say that
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: Indiana and Oregon are back playing. Oregon has spent two years.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: Indiana played Ohio State last year. But let's say Indiana
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: and Oregon are in Indianapolis playing a Big Ten championship game.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: Ohio State has lost that Texas game. They're sitting there
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: at 9-3, and you've got 10-2 Washington, and they didn't
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: play each other. If I'm a committee member, I'm taking
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: Ohio State over Washington. You guys?
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: I think so. 9-3 Ohio State over 10-2 Washington. Yeah.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: I think I would. A 10-2 Washington who's lost to
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: Indiana and Oregon could have zero top 25 wins. Now,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: I think Iowa, Penn State, Nebraska, somebody will sneak into
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: the top 25, but they won't have a lot of them.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: But the committee, I mean, not with Ohio State, but
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: other leagues like a second Big 12, a second ACC,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: a fifth SEC team, 10-2 resonates with the committee at
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: least so far. They seem to go by win-loss records
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: more than they do quality wins and strength of schedule.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: I think the committee really likes to see double-digit wins.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know why that should matter because I'm with you,
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: a 9-3 Ohio State could have a much better team
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: than a 10-2 Washington. But they like to see those
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: 10 wins. Yeah, but the same if it's a 9-3
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: Texas versus 10-2 Washington, 9-3 Alabama versus 10-2 Washington. I
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: would venture to say those SEC teams I mentioned would
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: have better wins than what Washington. I didn't know that
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: was Washington's schedule. Not too bad until you get to
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: the end.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, if they could just play the first 10 weeks,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: they'd be one of the best teams in America.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're going to be one of the surprises,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: especially early on. Again, if they open 10-0, they're, what,
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: number six, seven in the nation probably, maybe even higher.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, if they're 10-0, they'll be top five.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: By the way, Washington State rivalry game in the opener.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're top five. Washington, Wazoo, you
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: think Wazoo could? No, I'm just saying that game's in Seattle.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: And Washington was putting Washington State's band, or Washington State,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: whoever decided that the band wasn't going to be in
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: the lower bowl. I think Alabama endured this when they
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: went to Texas a few years ago. They did, yeah,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: upper deck. So the band's going to be upper deck.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: So for the first time, I think it's the first
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: time in a long time at the Apple Cup, the
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: visiting band's not making the trip. Washington State's band decides
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: we're not going.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to factor in at all.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but a little bad blood in that rivalry, of course,
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