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- 0:17Hello, welcome everyone. This is a year of Shame 10
- 0:22production. This is a blah blah, blah,
- 0:25episode, welcome. Come sit down.
- 0:28Take your shoes off. Put your slippers on.
- 0:30On cup of tea or a glass of wine, it's completely up to you.
- 0:32We are you know we're not biased this episode we are have the
- 0:37gracious presence of a previous house where there's that we are
- 0:41who we've been looking forward to speaking to and picking the
- 0:44brains off for a little while now and I love to I'm going to
- 0:48go around and introduce you, we with it and save the kind of the
- 0:52suspense. If you've not read the title of
- 0:53the podcast episode, which usually gives it away.
- 0:56Anyway, I don't know why we try and do this.
- 0:58And so, first of all, most of my The house.
- 1:01Welcome. Dave, how are you mate?
- 1:03Are you all right? I know it's wrong.
- 1:05Yeah, absolutely fine. Got a bit of that winter.
- 1:09Flu like most people, but I couldn't good.
- 1:11Isn't it? Awful.
- 1:12And just look at him on his birthday of all.
- 1:17Do you know? We get a people should be in.
- 1:19Pub, should be with families. You know what?
- 1:21He's got dedication coming out of his fucking pauses guy.
- 1:24Matthew more, happy birthday birthday, boy.
- 1:26How are you doing, mate? I'm a, it's what happens when
- 1:28you have a birthday. So, Close to Christmas and New
- 1:30Year after 44 than you realize. Nobody wants to do anything on
- 1:34the dude. They're very January the to
- 1:36Skid, but just to skin and still recovering from fucking New
- 1:41Year. Welcome are you anyway?
- 1:44And look at her calf. How are you doing?
- 1:47Are you okay yep. I'm good.
- 1:49Hello shitlords. How you doing?
- 1:53Get off. Get off.
- 1:55This is gonna be fun. You little bit under the
- 1:59weather. Long.
- 2:00You can stay at the moment. Yeah.
- 2:02I got a little bit of flu, but I'm gonna walk handle it.
- 2:05I've got it under control, it's all fine.
- 2:07You know what they're saying is Troopers.
- 2:08Keep on tripping, don't they? You know?
- 2:10Exactly. You've got to keep on pushing
- 2:12pushing against it. So the usual format we're not
- 2:16getting anything out of sync at the moment.
- 2:18We're going to, we're going to jump straight into it.
- 2:20So does anybody, what is in? We got anything you want to talk
- 2:23about since last was recording. It feels like it was last week.
- 2:26It was last week as anything that happened in that, in that
- 2:28time. Matthew birthday boy, anything
- 2:31in particular for today? Oh, I am.
- 2:33I, as mentioned last show I did pick up Jack box.
- 2:37The first jet box with oh yes, the draw fall and the fair
- 2:41bench, we played guess what? We played ruffle and Village
- 2:45including two different. Evenings were two different
- 2:48demographics and it works so well, it works.
- 2:51So the wife was convinced that Cards Against Humanity was the
- 2:54only we're having fun. No, no, no, let me introduce you
- 2:59to Real life setting, you know, in a room with a screen.
- 3:05Yes, I've been dreaming phones yet.
- 3:09We were sat in the same sofa. Class.
- 3:13Cool, nice stuff. Dave, anything happened to you
- 3:17recently since last recording that, that the viewership need
- 3:21to know this my I've completely shot my wad as it were, my
- 3:29wallet has been Unleashed another time.
- 3:34Yeah, we'll talk about that. Probably not in a very last
- 3:37recording / Handover shows. I'm sure we'll keep them to
- 3:41that, so, We've got cat with his thank you very much for coming
- 3:45Kath. You were one of the hosts of
- 3:47last year. You've been you've been 12
- 3:51months buying games playing games.
- 3:53You want to play? No restrictions.
- 3:55That's right. Yeah.
- 3:56How does it feel to 12 months on?
- 3:58Do you feel you feel good about it?
- 4:00Does it did was a 12-month kind of liquid?
- 4:03You know what happened in that first couple of weeks after you
- 4:05were going to released into the wild?
- 4:07Well, I think my same thing that everyone does is as soon as you
- 4:11are able. Spy game.
- 4:12She just kind of go a little bit wild and buy a bunch of things.
- 4:15Hmm. And then you can't down a little
- 4:18bit. And I found that I've bought
- 4:22very little this year, because for me, it's just been all about
- 4:25Game Pass. And I think game part is
- 4:28actually kind of in a way spoiling the way that I play
- 4:31games, because I found, I've got very low tolerance to for if a
- 4:36game is good or not. So if I get frustrated with
- 4:39something within that, say the first half an hour, I'll never
- 4:42play it again and but it's a bit of a shame because, you know,
- 4:46I'm sure there's some brilliant games out there that I've tried
- 4:48and just because it's a little bit frustrating, I might have
- 4:50missed something like the other a fantastic game.
- 4:54But yeah, I think it's just the Game Pass effect it just I'm
- 4:57sure I'm not the only one that that this happens to either that
- 5:01I just think, oh no, it's no good.
- 5:03Okay, going to play the next one instead.
- 5:05So it's just like a become very picky with games, using the
- 5:08spend more time, downloading the new do playing.
- 5:11Yeah. Yeah, but there has been some
- 5:13incredible gains on getting past this year.
- 5:16And I've just been looking back over the games that I have been
- 5:18playing and there are quite a few of them, this like an
- 5:22enormous list of virtually. Well, virtually, all of them are
- 5:26from game passive. I think there's been one or two
- 5:28things on PC that I've picked up things that I sort of seen that,
- 5:34I ETA X and places like that. I'm been downloaded and really
- 5:39enjoyed. But, yeah, for the most part,
- 5:40it's just been all about games. Pass for me.
- 5:42So I was drinking that that was like, one of the big kind of
- 5:44take aways from you from from Tech participating last year was
- 5:48is that, you know, making the most of those subscription
- 5:51services and kind of using them as a good kind of tester card of
- 5:56games that because then they, because I think games did a
- 5:59very, how long games are actually on getting past,
- 6:01doesn't it? Like, obviously, the the from
- 6:04Microsoft Studios they seem to stay on there forever.
- 6:07So the I got ya, I feel like gears and get his tactics and
- 6:10kind of you know, kind of The horizons and what have you?
- 6:13But like the other ones, the kind of smaller ones that come
- 6:16in and come out again. They they do vary quite the, you
- 6:18know, we could be a couple weeks could be a couple of months and
- 6:20stuff because I went to try and go on, it's going down, sorry
- 6:24that I found that a lot last year.
- 6:26I've put quite a few on my list and by the time I got around to
- 6:30him sort of three-quarters the way from the year that the
- 6:32smaller ones had gone. Mmm.
- 6:35Yeah, I found it with Hades wanted to play Hades.
- 6:41That was on. During the year that we were
- 6:43doing you shame. Try to play it two days ago?
- 6:46No, you gotta pay 20 quid for it.
- 6:48So it's kind of like it's like a snooze you lose kind of thing.
- 6:50So it's a good kind of its I'm I think I've learned that this is
- 6:54a good kind of lesson that I've learned this year that make the
- 6:59most of the subscriptions. You've got because the fast
- 7:01enough the cost of my face. Yeah, absolutely.
- 7:04So yeah cool. Excellent stuff.
- 7:08So we'll jump into the very first kind of General interview
- 7:12questions, you are, you don't worry, there's no right and
- 7:14running because all the, what's the right?
- 7:19So the first one is is tell us a little bit about your gaming
- 7:23Juni then Kappa. How did you get into kind of a
- 7:26kind of video games and where did it all begin for you?
- 7:29At the very beginning, the very beginning.
- 7:31Wow. Okay, so I think I got into
- 7:35games when I was a massive, been 45 years old because my dad
- 7:39bought a Commodore 64. For my brother.
- 7:43And I think my sister was slightly too young to so they
- 7:46know what to do with it. But yeah, he introduced a
- 7:49Commodore 64 into the family with some cartridges, very basic
- 7:52games, but just absolutely love them.
- 7:55And just sort of went out, ballgames thought it was
- 7:59amazing. It was also quite a social thing
- 8:02as well. So we bought Summer Games 86 or
- 8:07something like that. I think it was and had they
- 8:09known as well. Play it together, keep it going.
- 8:13Um, yeah. That was a joke and I didn't
- 8:16really realize that you wouldn't sorry about that.
- 8:19Yeah, there's two of them have some Summer Games, one and two,
- 8:23and then you really serious, like California games and we
- 8:26remembered, I remember California games.
- 8:28It was up with the hackey. Sack wasn't it?
- 8:30California games, yeah, anyway, sorry.
- 8:32Sorry, he's Catholic. Please come back to you.
- 8:35Well this wasn't a librarian will shut up.
- 8:39So yeah we vote. We were c64 house.
- 8:42Hold not us Spectrum household. Boo-yeah you respected the
- 8:48plastic like, well, yeah, the plastic Keys rather than the
- 8:52rubber Keys. Yes, or grown-ups keyboard not
- 8:58but that just yeah, very much enjoyed that.
- 9:00So then always tried to have some sort of like gaming device
- 9:04in my life. So I've had Seager megadrive
- 9:07Nintendo's, you know, just continued from there, took a
- 9:11little bit of a break when I was a teenager because up to quarter
- 9:14be a game anything. Guess I got some popping hanging
- 9:17out with people and yeah. How are you meant to like mix
- 9:20with people when you can physically get out to be?
- 9:22They're loading games. Yeah I know exactly what.
- 9:25Yeah actually girls are side took over for us.
- 9:29Yeah it's inside World of Warcraft well and truly dragged
- 9:33me back in right? Yeah.
- 9:35Been fairly constant since then do you still play now them?
- 9:40Yeah. Oh God.
- 9:40Let me step into it. But why for a second so did you
- 9:43order with you in? Were you in reduce wear level,
- 9:4640 was the cap. Yeah, I think so we you in the
- 9:50doors, where am I original vanilla ones?
- 9:52And then man cost you forty gold at level 40.
- 9:55That was crazy. Oh yeah, and when I think 60 was
- 9:57the cap, or was it around, either way, it cost a lot of
- 10:00money to get Americans back in the day.
- 10:03Can't really remember it? Took.
- 10:04Yeah, well, I think I was slightly late to the party in
- 10:07that I didn't buy it when it first came out, I think I got it
- 10:10a couple of years afterwards. So people already very high
- 10:12level. But yeah, I sort of bought the
- 10:16original one before they had any of the expansions and just
- 10:20completely fell in love with it. Did you ever did you ever?
- 10:22Uh, just, uh, sit just friends now cat did you evolve devote
- 10:25every role? Play it that you ever get deep
- 10:27into the moat? Yes, it is actually I did.
- 10:31But then I realized that's what least Thing to do is the best
- 10:35thing to do really quickly and do it in attendance, were all
- 10:41used to play on the roleplay server as that which was a bit
- 10:44of a problem seeing as II played pretty much, the only female orc
- 10:48Warrior. I've ever said, we did a role
- 10:56play situation with us where somebody didn't mind control,
- 11:00you know, priests used to have mind control and it because it
- 11:02is PVP As well, that's ever. So, they mind control my
- 11:05character and my controlled a murloc and made us get married
- 11:09because they were priests. So I had a murloc husband for a
- 11:17divorce. I killed him.
- 11:23See, this is all naive Neil's coming out again.
- 11:26This is all new to me. I was never into into kind of
- 11:30role playing or kind of World of Warcraft or anything like that,
- 11:33so, this This still seems fascinating to me, you know
- 11:36they're going to length and breadth of to give the people
- 11:38got in to get into it in my view it's amazing.
- 11:41I look into it and I'm amazed. Yeah I'll pick the one thing
- 11:44that I'll Nev I didn't see anywhere.
- 11:46So yeah, there was no female aux at all but it's what was your
- 11:49feeling a little character named Walker the Balkan?
- 12:00That's what was your main What was my main?
- 12:05Yeah, so I defeat mother walk Shaymin the class of an eye
- 12:11towards the name was Salonika. I wanted it to sell it up at
- 12:16Eastern European. I think really sturdy resulting
- 12:21oxtail. Exactly.
- 12:23Your typical Games Workshop awk, Matthew, what was your main
- 12:30called? I said I was sewing also annoyed
- 12:32because I chose a really cool name for a dark elf hunter
- 12:36called Darko zindani Darko and then delete and then try to
- 12:40create him again and some other person at all took in the name.
- 12:44Because so, so, since then, so you got censored.
- 12:49Yeah. I was wondering if they should
- 12:52have this one. But what ever since that point
- 12:59whenever they would put a new server, eyeline me and a bunch
- 13:03of people we were Would go on and just register new
- 13:06characters. Let's just a bullshit.
- 13:08Default human Warrior just to pinch the name.
- 13:12So since a new server comes up, right?
- 13:14White human Warrior called Arnie.
- 13:18Thank you very much move on. Do not play anything.
- 13:24You get today's. Do you play any deeply still
- 13:27car? Did you say you still play?
- 13:28No. No, I stopped a while ago.
- 13:30Now, it all got a bit serious and intense and people got a bit
- 13:34upset if you didn't take it seriously enough.
- 13:37Oh wow. And it sort of became a second
- 13:39job and I just didn't I mean I was playing it for fun than just
- 13:43the sort of hang out with people online but people just took it
- 13:47way too seriously and just made it quite stressful and I just
- 13:51thought no actually I'm need to stop.
- 13:53This is It probably goes, it's not fun anymore.
- 13:56The minutes before not even lock husband to take it.
- 14:01Seriously. You know, they spend a lot of
- 14:03time building a character and learning particular fights and
- 14:07stuff like that. So, you know, I understand that,
- 14:10you know why people take it seriously, but the guild that I
- 14:13was in, it's supposed to be some casual gamers and if you play to
- 14:17have fun, and you have a beer and stuff like that and just
- 14:19hang out together but it just sort of became a lot.
- 14:23Spawn them. It had been initially.
- 14:26Sounds great meal until someone tells you to be mainly healing.
- 14:29You like, what? I'm trying to the wind.
- 14:34Definitely said something last me to do.
- 14:36You just look at the backstay to the back Donkey Kong.
- 14:39Collect any loot, don't you? Wait your turn.
- 14:41Okay, that kind of thing. Yeah, don't stand in the fire.
- 14:45Yeah. Okay, get told to heal people
- 14:47better as well. That was another.
- 14:49It's quite a website politically liked being told if the Handler
- 14:53dies Sighs. It's Hanks fault.
- 14:54And if the tank dies, it's the healers Falls between the two of
- 14:57them. They're both terrible.
- 15:00Yeah, and the DPS always stand in the fire.
- 15:05Yeah, chocolate. That miss it much.
- 15:08But yeah, so okay, for quite a long time, for about 10 years, I
- 15:13went through quite a few of the expansions and got to know the
- 15:17people in The Guild quite well. So we met up occasionally or
- 15:21nice. So that's really nice to meet
- 15:23some. The people that actually see
- 15:24them in the flesh for the first time, which is kind of weird you
- 15:28recognize the voice. But then, yeah, the person isn't
- 15:32quite how you imagined them to be.
- 15:34He's not green skin. Exactly.
- 15:37Yeah, a bit like with me and with everybody, I've met online,
- 15:40do you struggle to separate their what your monarch of is,
- 15:44for them, compared to the real name?
- 15:48I think some people yes because the yeah the Friendship isn't at
- 15:52a point where you know, each other's real name so you yeah, I
- 15:55think it is a bit strange when you meet them and they say, oh
- 15:58my name is Jeff or or Susan or whatever you kind of used to
- 16:02calling them by their gamertag. Yeah I can't not call Derek
- 16:05Digi, it would be weird. Yeah but it's the same thing
- 16:10that people still call me Baron, I've known them.
- 16:13I've met them for 10 years, every year for 10 years and
- 16:16people still talk to me. My face so well, they still call
- 16:20me Baron and it's absolutely, I still turn around and answer to
- 16:22it can the thing. But yeah, it's too strange.
- 16:25It is going to be one of those things, I think it's quite
- 16:27sweet. Yeah, yeah, it's good.
- 16:29Which is what you've got a good name.
- 16:30If you give you, if you choose poorly, like Matthew did my own
- 16:33thing, now, I'm even think of these days.
- 16:45Well, this is it. Definitely put my both feet and
- 16:50elbows right in my mouth, if I didn't even try to make a joke
- 16:53about anything, okay? So based on that, though, we're
- 16:56going to meeting up with those kind of flows.
- 16:59Nicely into the kind of next question.
- 17:00How did you get involved in with the life gamer, then Kath, when
- 17:03what was your first couple of steps into into this community?
- 17:09Well, I think it as with pretty much everyone, I imagine it
- 17:13started by stumbling across a podcast.
- 17:15All right, there's a punk. I listen to that.
- 17:17And thinking, yeah I think I just got good well searching for
- 17:20gaming podcasts and found it but I'll give this one a listen and
- 17:24thought it was quite funny. I listen to it for a while and
- 17:28then I think maybe after a year or so of listening to it, I went
- 17:33to edx and they Well, that'll be bitching that.
- 17:37He was also going to be at edx and so I went and I was looking
- 17:41out for them at the pub and yeah I met a few of them and just get
- 17:47got on really well, was made to feel very welcome.
- 17:49I was by myself as well. So it's quite nervous about what
- 17:51asked if he knew anybody prior because, like, obviously Dave's
- 17:54new could quite a couple of people can have like, you know,
- 17:56from different kind of gaming groups that can have gotten
- 17:59around about the same time kind of thing, but you can have all
- 18:02on your lonesome, them completely on my own breaking.
- 18:05A bunch of strangers for the first time so it was quite
- 18:08terrifying. I'm really pleased that I did
- 18:09it. I have no regrets.
- 18:11It's been lovely meeting the community and also making new
- 18:14friendships with people whose this in the Prince of Wales days
- 18:17and it was cool. Now it's one after it was, I
- 18:20think it's a first year when it gone to Birmingham.
- 18:25She's quite annoying because I live in London again, to I was
- 18:28called to be much easier for me. Yeah, some no, it wasn't really
- 18:32a way of of midlife Gamers, who would have been that would have
- 18:34been the first year. R that we overtook the dragon
- 18:37and the railway. Yes, okay.
- 18:39Yes, okay, those Infamous days. Jesus, Christ.
- 18:44I think I just, I think I've still got that hangover.
- 18:45It's, you know, he's just still within people topping up behind
- 18:50it. Cool.
- 18:53Anybody got anything except extra off the back of that?
- 18:55I don't want to just go through this list.
- 18:57It just feels really, you know what your budget many students
- 19:00come on. Yeah.
- 19:01I was just going to say about that.
- 19:02Look, if anybody, you know, in fact future meetups it.
- 19:05It is astounding really romantic people, you know, been breaking
- 19:09it and gone along on the road. And like we say this, every
- 19:14time, you know, we're all like amazing mates now, you know what
- 19:18I mean? Yeah, well, it's nice.
- 19:20That there are few more women now.
- 19:23Yeah. Community.
- 19:23Because I think, when I went the first time I met people, I don't
- 19:27think there are any other ladies there, but now they seem to be
- 19:30sort of more and more ladies in the community, which is really
- 19:33nice. We the was a group of Ladies,
- 19:36when we were down in the Prince of Wales Earls Court because I
- 19:39remember, okay, I remember, I don't remember the names and I'm
- 19:42not even going to be brave enough to try and remember,
- 19:45again, go to completely wrong but I do remember being accosted
- 19:50and kind of kind of questioned and get interrogated about
- 19:54actually, you know, so you're paranoid.
- 19:57You're definitely bury the other.
- 19:58Yes, yes, it's definitely me. All right.
- 20:00Okay, and just yeah, so yeah, there was a, was a couple around
- 20:03but it was probably quite sparse at the time.
- 20:05But If you might have been, do you want it to serve to poop?
- 20:08Have been interrogating? Probably, probably.
- 20:10I mean, there was just Barren groupies The Comedy Club.
- 20:16Imagine if every state universe potentially Dave, but definitely
- 20:24not in this pocket. Jesus Christ.
- 20:29Yeah, but you know it is there it is.
- 20:30Now it's good. Yeah, I think what we found as
- 20:33well Kathy's, is that As the as a cool as they kind of the kind
- 20:39of central people have got more involved, their Partners have
- 20:42got more involved. So there's a lot more kind of
- 20:43wives and girlfriends and there's a lot more parties.
- 20:46And, and vice a versa can have bringing you their kind of the
- 20:48friends and family and stuff like that into it.
- 20:50So it's it's grown and become a lot more kind of universal.
- 20:54Less less kind of geek flew, more kind of just Community kind
- 20:59of thing instead. Yeah, yeah, I agree.
- 21:02Yeah, I completely agree with that.
- 21:04I think gues, there's a lot of People with partners and stuff
- 21:07writing things on Facebook group and, and coming to edx when
- 21:12there isn't a covid outbreak going on with, you know, when
- 21:14people can actually meet up with the partners now and it's really
- 21:19nice to meet everyone. Well, don't you think you
- 21:21mentioned the c-word their calves?
- 21:23I'm I'm thinking that absent since it all happened.
- 21:26I've barely left the house, but you're still, you're still
- 21:28treading the path, honey. You're still going to expose?
- 21:31Yes, I am now, but I think Think I didn't go to the one after
- 21:38that. It's the first one after covid
- 21:40because I just felt a little bit uncomfortable about the whole
- 21:42sort of germs situation. Yeah, but I've been I have been
- 21:45to yeah egx. Last year met up with Serena
- 21:49there. So it's lovely to see somebody
- 21:50die. Hello.
- 21:50Sarita. If you're listening and you're
- 21:53talking of Serena, she gave me a ticket to go to Comic-Con which
- 21:56was also at the Excel Centre. I think that was perhaps I think
- 21:59I was actually after egx by a month or so and there's so many
- 22:03people there. You'd think that covid-19 It's
- 22:07not just, it was completely round, but then I think London,
- 22:12has pretty much got back to normal anyway, with purely
- 22:15cramming onto tube trains. And I mean, that's probably why
- 22:18I've got flus because, you know, people just don't give a shit
- 22:21anymore, sneeze everywhere. But, yeah, it's all pretty much
- 22:25back to normal. So yeah, I'm back at the shows
- 22:28and stuff which is great. I think really nice to be there.
- 22:31Again, I think AJ Cooper. It's a ticket to will take Joe.
- 22:35A little while because he tends to evoke a string onto his PC.
- 22:40I did. A CT did it?
- 23:07That's why you're here. Sleet 88 says it all over your
- 23:10face. You 9?
- 23:13So the T-shirt gave it away. Yeah.
- 23:16Exactly. Yeah.
- 23:18One. Two, three clap t-shirt year 9.
- 23:21And so that's damn right. There's one two, three.
- 23:24Clap t-shirt. Yeah, exactly.
- 23:26And so what made you want to? Do you shame you year and get
- 23:31around about a year ago to the day?
- 23:34What we're going to push? You into it.
- 23:39I think there are a couple of reasons why I wanted to do it.
- 23:41I think the first one is to play the damn game.
- 23:44So I've got the stop but then I think honestly, like having
- 23:49listened to Stuart and that Dwayne and the other people with
- 23:55the year, Richard always. Yeah.
- 23:58They sounded like they were having so much fun doing it but
- 24:01you know, it's really excited to do that and to have that same
- 24:04sort of camraderie yes. With with the ladies With Serena
- 24:09and Hannah, yes, which I think, you know, we did end up getting
- 24:14to know each other fairly well. But I think a couple of things
- 24:17happened during the year, like, for real life things, I'm not
- 24:19going to mention, but it makes that we, they had other
- 24:25commitments, which is completely understandable, but you know,
- 24:30because I'm part of midlife gamer Community I sort of
- 24:32reached out and had special guests on the show.
- 24:35So kept it going had a couple of people from that YouTubers to
- 24:41interview as well to mix it up a little bit and but yeah.
- 24:45So I think I guess that's another reason was I was just
- 24:48kind of curious to make a podcast as well because it's
- 24:52something that's not done before.
- 24:54Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
- 24:55I like, I like making videos and editing sounds and stuff or that
- 24:59I don't anymore. Having had to do talk shows in
- 25:02the year but realize what a chore it can be but there is a
- 25:07lot of fun and it's lovely. According with the ladies and
- 25:10yeah, I hope that they're doing well yeah.
- 25:13I think babe probably my main reasons why I wanted to do it.
- 25:17Oh, that's awesome. So did you did you have quite a
- 25:19big pile of shame to go through them?
- 25:21Was it just a lot of because obviously this is can talking
- 25:25get a game past was around. There was another one that can
- 25:28description but we go. Yeah you have that kind of
- 25:30towering piles of games around you, did we just making you feel
- 25:34a bit weak and just keep on buying new ones and not playing
- 25:36the old ones. So Oh, I thought that it was a
- 25:40fairly fairly reasonable towel or but then having become aware
- 25:44of other people. I think they've, you're in
- 25:48particular unbelievable list of gaze is a reputable.
- 25:52Please eat walked my leader if it is amazing list of chick
- 25:55games, he's played this year. Dwarfs - yeah exactly.
- 25:59And we're talking on the 4th of January.
- 26:01Yeah, Davey were talking about this earlier maybe finish four
- 26:06games so far this year. My God.
- 26:09Where did you get the time? I know this is it.
- 26:11This is what I've been saying all year.
- 26:13He's like, I don't understand, he's got a second head with a
- 26:15second pair of eyes, and the pair of arms.
- 26:17You've got to, I think you just tickles the time hand and gets a
- 26:21bit. Yeah, it is.
- 26:22Okay, you two girls that I'm having stomach goes back.
- 26:24Six months, gets to play him. Again, unbelievably don't give a
- 26:28shame and he's still been maxing out the, the gamerscore?
- 26:31Yeah. Sort of Handa every month, he's
- 26:34at the top of the can hell. How was he at the top?
- 26:37He's only got a limited number. Ombre games, he can play and
- 26:40yet, consistently in that number one, he's got a script to do
- 26:44that. Nah, it's all.
- 26:46It's all about. Like I said, you go on how long
- 26:49to beat you. Look at how short it is, you go
- 26:53for that one. So you have a lot of games you
- 26:57want to play them. When there was something like
- 26:59big hit is that? Yes, you felt that you were
- 27:01behind the times on and things like that.
- 27:03Well, maybe not that. I was behind the times.
- 27:07But games are awesome. Really hyped about like, Red
- 27:10Dead. Redemption to like a bunch of
- 27:13Assassin's Creed. Just loads of cool.
- 27:15Sort of open world games but then what happened was I got
- 27:19into fall out bloody 76th and that so like video of what the
- 27:24other case I forgot that mean you can't have got a kindred
- 27:31love of that game. Oh my God, we could play it,
- 27:35right? I am is to again, I've started
- 27:38to say I started a new character action game this month.
- 27:40Or was it last year? No, it's this.
- 27:41It's this month's PlayStation Plus free game.
- 27:44So, Download it. Do yourself a favor.
- 27:46Just ignore this and pretend, it doesn't exist.
- 27:50I don't know, though. Cast into the since the kind of
- 27:52the pit update into fuck. That is really good.
- 27:55Isn't it a bit May couldn't against it came out?
- 27:57I think the game is actually that good.
- 27:59It's because of that scoreboard thing like we have to, they were
- 28:02like daily and weekly challenges that you have to do to get
- 28:05points which then you kind of over the eagle Port City for the
- 28:09scoreboard. You get a cosmetic thing or
- 28:12building thing. Yeah, it's and I think that's
- 28:14the hook. Is this is this is the season
- 28:17scoreboard, guys. So you yeah, there's there's
- 28:19like, it's like a Snake and Ladders board.
- 28:21Basically that you, if you were in progression on particular
- 28:24challenges, daily weekly or monthly challenges, you can get
- 28:27like, yeah in how stuff and what have you it it and he's a
- 28:31one-off kind of thing. You can't you can't generally by
- 28:33those things. Or buy them with in-game
- 28:36currency afterwards. Generally.
- 28:39So yeah it's what these the same with most kind of Games that are
- 28:43like that. They want to bring you back in.
- 28:45They want to kind of other games like that yet.
- 28:48They do these games just so that I make sure I never touched that
- 28:51yesterday is one. Well, that was fun.
- 28:56I used to play Destiny but yeah. Anyway, didn't any really?
- 28:59We could we could we could spill.
- 29:01I can't remember what we talked about before, my brain just went
- 29:03full on Fallout and I've completely forgotten what we're
- 29:06talking about before don't do so.
- 29:10Well, you're asking me about my pile of shake.
- 29:12Yes, go for it. And I think I did really poorly.
- 29:14I think I only managed to finish a couple of games.
- 29:16I think. Serena did really well, she was
- 29:18finishing quite a few games. But yeah, just one or two
- 29:22because I just made a big mistake to get into a
- 29:24never-ending game. Yeah.
- 29:26Didn't slow me down after specifically go out and buy some
- 29:29more games. So she reached like before the
- 29:32challenge so that she won't run out.
- 29:34He didn't just yeah or in through things because she's
- 29:37just so good at finishing them. And I wish that I could be more
- 29:40like, Serena I don't know what I've been at and I saying that
- 29:43Dave, that that tactic I've seen quite a lot of people on Steam
- 29:47who I don't know whether to be in.
- 29:48Next year's challenge, you're not going out and stocking up
- 29:51stockpiling games. I don't know this because
- 29:52there's a sale on, but this time I'm suspicious big lie, I'm
- 29:56suspicious. I'm looking at people on my
- 29:57steam friendless going. Are you all next year?
- 30:00Because you seem to lie a lot. You're paying 12 games at a
- 30:04time. That's strange.
- 30:06Okay. Okay.
- 30:08But now I so I think some people do go out and A whole bulk of
- 30:12games, like when there's a sale on or something, I've never done
- 30:16that. I've never really felt the need
- 30:19to buy more than one at a time. Because I think I've decided by
- 30:22game if I sort of get hyped about it and then that's, you
- 30:26know, really want to play it rather than just gonna maybe
- 30:27this maybe that and spend lots of money and probably never play
- 30:31any of them. Yeah, that's the my steam list.
- 30:41The sale was all, they're all in the cart ready to go.
- 30:46Boy, go. What you saying about buying
- 30:51games that are more than one or two time.
- 30:54I'll tend to buy them for like different reasons.
- 30:56So, I've got like some stupid party games in there.
- 30:59That I know will come in handy at the weekend.
- 31:01I've got like a yeah, an adventure.
- 31:04You know the law gets stuck into a couple of like stupid
- 31:07five-minute retro games. Everyone by do not do do by the
- 31:11way. It's the greatest thing.
- 31:13I've watched a video of that do not do do today.
- 31:15And I just looks really frustrating.
- 31:19It is it just looks really hard. I don't know.
- 31:21You know, I'd like cats were saying that your game pass, you
- 31:24play a game and then you delete, it was frustrating that I think
- 31:28I don't sighs to exactly even though it's only like a five a
- 31:30day when I don't think I could do it.
- 31:32Don't think you do it. Does he do with em?
- 31:35Did you use any Jokers or anything like that?
- 31:37Then join your year? Kathy.
- 31:40What kind of? Yeah, I do.
- 31:41I did. So I think towards the end so I
- 31:45kind of know what spent my choker on probably something
- 31:47ridiculous. The black I think that's what
- 31:51most people do excited about it. No that would be So, I really
- 32:15wanted to play. It was Age of Empires because
- 32:19they just really they just released a new version or what
- 32:23upscale version on PC. And I got very excited about
- 32:26that and I thought, pay that for ages.
- 32:28I must play this immediately. So I downloaded it, paid it and
- 32:34then never, then just put it down and never went back to it.
- 32:36So again, we've all use Joker that you see Age of Empires to
- 32:40was the foot, my first-ever LAN party at University, where we
- 32:44had two pieces in our house and we ran the I'm cable out through
- 32:49one window up to the second floor and into the other car on
- 32:52and played against each other. Any we had like three people in
- 32:55each room that would take take turns into fact that it was for
- 32:59an entire weekend. It was absolutely fantastic.
- 33:02So exciting Applause, fried big round of applause for Age of
- 33:07Empires this year because it's it's helped towards be getting
- 33:11200. Quid free from Microsoft by
- 33:13playing. Never actually played I am of
- 33:18it. I've just been handed a Lobby to
- 33:20get the points. So, I've never actually played
- 33:23the game but I fly. So game every day, the new one,
- 33:28there's sort of videos and stuff so you sort of learn a bit about
- 33:32history, whilst you're playing it as well.
- 33:34I think, because I'd seen the Microsoft show like something in
- 33:40America, what they were talking about the anniversary of Age of
- 33:43Empires and they will show in this video about how you build a
- 33:46trebuchet. I have to say Thought this looks
- 33:48amazing. I would you want to play this
- 33:49again? Oh yeah.
- 33:51And then bought it and played it once.
- 33:53Yeah. Yeah.
- 33:58But did you even do that? Did you regret any of the game?
- 34:01During that time of you think shit, I should have actually
- 34:04waited. The should have got that right
- 34:07now, let's see, it was between that and something called
- 34:09Moonglow Bay or something, that that which was an indie game on
- 34:13game past. I do this looks fine.
- 34:15It's a nice fishing game. Nice relaxing.
- 34:17I love so glad that I didn't use the choke on that, because I've
- 34:20been downloaded on Game Pass after the Euro sham finished,
- 34:24and it really wasn't like, haha, I made the right choice out of
- 34:28the to cool. Excellent.
- 34:30They like to, before we continue with some of the other kind of
- 34:33kind of questions that eccentric Tan Your participant, what you
- 34:37playing now, then Kathy, playing it.
- 34:39What's your kind of your main kind of games you playing at the
- 34:42moment? Well, I'm glad that you asked me
- 34:44that they all because the main game that I'm playing at the
- 34:46moment isn't. Video game at all, is an app
- 34:50that Joe and I are sort of playing together called
- 34:52Duolingo. And you don't know if you later
- 34:56language basically, but they gamified the shit out of it, so
- 34:59that I have to play it every day.
- 35:00And I'll get very competitive on the leaderboard.
- 35:04You can sort of point where I have actually paid for the like,
- 35:08I'm paying money to use it. It's no longer the free version
- 35:11of it. Gold, you pay money, you get
- 35:12more points and then you get higher up the leaderboard, Ru B.
- 35:15OU is it, you competitive is in like your Trying to beat Joe and
- 35:20other people. No, no.
- 35:21So I'm encouraging Joe. I'm competing against other
- 35:25other people in the you see leaks and things you are lingo
- 35:29is pay to win. Yeah.
- 35:32Yes. I guess it kind of is a mule
- 35:35when you pay money to get unlimited lives.
- 35:38So basically that you learned a bunch of words, and then you
- 35:42have to kind of put, like, type them out, or save them or
- 35:45something. And you're only allowed to make
- 35:47three more Steaks in the in the free version and the longer
- 35:50you're doing it, the harder, it gets because you obviously learn
- 35:53more and more words, if you go and I've been playing it for
- 35:57about eight months now, and I know a reasonable.
- 36:01Well, I'm supposed a note of reasonable amount of words and
- 36:03grammar, and all of that sort of stuff.
- 36:06I needed those unlimited lives because I just wasn't getting
- 36:08the points. I just those three lives, but
- 36:10really quickly. And then you get kicked out and
- 36:12it was just not working out for me and I wanted to go up the
- 36:16leaderboard, not stay in the Box.
- 36:17Get relegated, I need to know we've been talking about this
- 36:20for a couple minutes now but what language are you learning
- 36:24Spanish? Okay.
- 36:26Yeah. And is that the same Joe?
- 36:29I forget you're doing a different language.
- 36:31Aren't you Joe? You're doing well, she's doing
- 36:33this Kikkoman ID. Oh, okay.
- 36:38Who knows what you just said to me?
- 36:41Probably insulted us all. Well, she bunch of twats.
- 36:45Yeah. It's a big logs or something
- 36:47like that, but we can't predict who do who's learning a language
- 36:59rather than learning the language again?
- 37:00Like, it's not competitive, it's not compete against me.
- 37:04You get XP for doing less, Listen, you get XP for doing
- 37:06certain tasks and the leaderboard is, who's got the
- 37:08most XP. Okay, that's how it sort of
- 37:10levels everything out. So it's not like you're but not
- 37:12all better at Spanish than and it's all week by week so it's
- 37:17whoever's done the most in a week, but there's things were.
- 37:21So if you practice in the morning before midday, you get a
- 37:24double XP later on that day, there's a few like what Kathy
- 37:34saying about his play to win. For I know a few people my
- 37:37partners on. It's been on it for years.
- 37:38She's been learning, she started with German.
- 37:40She's merely Welsh as well with me now, they've changed the way
- 37:45the app works. I think it used to be much more
- 37:47much more choice. You could choose to do it.
- 37:49Yeah. About food like your version and
- 37:51the new ones, just a single path and if you've not got the super
- 37:56version, you can't access all of the things all of the time.
- 38:00So if you want to become a master of a topic, I think you
- 38:03have to spend money. Whereas if you're on superdude.
- 38:05The lingo. You don't have to spend money to
- 38:07do the same thing. There's a few little twists,
- 38:10someone was complaining about it, obviously know who had been
- 38:15well, they've been learning for a long time and then suddenly
- 38:17found all their optional things, they'd done would reduce to this
- 38:21path and they were like behind on certain things ahead on
- 38:24certain things. And they used to have a way that
- 38:26they played and now they can't play that way anymore because I
- 38:28changed it the whole thing. Yeah.
- 38:30But it's good it's it's motivational.
- 38:33My worry is am I playing it to get XP or plane to learn the
- 38:36language? Now like am I doing the thing?
- 38:38That's best for learning the language and as a curiosity in
- 38:41the language there and I mean am I learning things?
- 38:43That mean I'm going to be able to go out and buy books at a
- 38:45time or my going right going to play for five minutes, tell
- 38:48o'clock in the morning on my break.
- 38:50So then in the evening I'm going to hammer this task.
- 38:53That gives me the most XP rather than I want understand how this
- 38:56grammar works. So this is kind of a
- 38:58double-edged sword, I think. Yeah.
- 39:02Yeah, but then if you don't, if you don't play at all during the
- 39:06day, they actually send you an e-mail or text or something to
- 39:09remind you like, I've got any Spanish, lesson, study cath.
- 39:12Don't forget about Duolingo. Well, I'm saying you, okay, I'm
- 39:17paying you a subscription model. You have to remind me to learn.
- 39:22How much is it? How much is this?
- 39:23Illusion is expensive, but don't give me the figure, but is
- 39:25expensive. The thing is not confident
- 39:28expensive. It's just what is, well, I think
- 39:32it's something like 6 pounds a month but they make you pay for
- 39:35an entire year, okay? The ghetto.
- 39:37It's only this much about so you don't think it's that much but
- 39:39then when you actually come to pay for it, it's a much larger
- 39:42sum of money because you have to pay for a whole year instead.
- 39:45I'd much rather do it month by month but no they know what
- 39:48they're doing is doing and go guys it what it takes a year to
- 39:51learn a language? Surely, nobody can do it in less
- 39:53than that or longer or shorter or whatever.
- 39:55There was a sale on it near yet. Who's Helen nearly signed up for
- 39:58it? And it's about 60% off.
- 40:00It's quite a big sale on for individual ones and we looked at
- 40:02getting a members of this might have actually ended up being my
- 40:06Joker, by the way, because I did it on a student.
- 40:08Well, that's two months, free as a technically, I am a student
- 40:13despite my lack of studies typing my joker.
- 40:18Well, you've your announcing this After we finished the
- 40:26podcast, whatever was take place to real good point.
- 40:31Okay, let you off. But yeah what's up what I was
- 40:36going to say about Duolingo because I was sort of thinking
- 40:38about if you ask me like what what my game of the year is or
- 40:43something like that. I think it has to be that just
- 40:46because I'm having to do it every day but I watched our show
- 40:50Charlie Brooker show a couple years ago about I think it's a
- 40:52top 100 games and the number one game was Twitter which was a bit
- 41:00of a surprise but no, that's Twitter has been knocked off
- 41:02that the top spot as far as I'm Concerned is Duolingo for sure.
- 41:06Yeah, well than the other or the other one that people are
- 41:09migrating from Twitter to. Can't remember what it's called
- 41:11now Master. Don't do you go see that all
- 41:14that one? Yeah.
- 41:15No. I remember that actel.
- 41:16Yeah. Yeah, I remember that tree.
- 41:20Yeah, I remember that program, because I remember being a
- 41:22little bit surprised at which it was, number one.
- 41:24I was kind of fully expecting something else, but it's just a
- 41:27bit of an anti-climax as well. Sookie, what is good?
- 41:29What is the most amazing game? You know, I'm very excited to
- 41:34know what it is. Have I played it?
- 41:35How do I feel about it fucking Twitter?
- 41:37I'll do me a favor. That's all game.
- 41:40Wasn't it? When social media platform
- 41:44what's up, Dave asked you say, wasn't it cold like how video
- 41:47games changed the world or something like that and then he
- 41:50did another one that was like, you know, it does Charlie
- 41:53Brooker, screen screen, screen wipes, the games wipe, I'm
- 42:00pretty sure it was the top 100 because I was really
- 42:03disappointed with it. But number one being Twitter, I
- 42:07mean he gave me a good reason why but I just thought this come
- 42:10on, it's not a game. Come on social media platform,
- 42:14we had respect for each Ali. Now you dashed it, what else?
- 42:19You put in them cast at the moment, what are the actual
- 42:21physical? In your hand games.
- 42:25You find that so. Oh, you know, still so played
- 42:28that. Yeah.
- 42:29And I've before that I was painting a blow because I got
- 42:33will hike to Diablo for and I just thought I'd leave my Diablo
- 42:36fix us up can you still get? And again you know, they got the
- 42:39seasonal things and I never considered Diablo 3 is the
- 42:42seasonal game by I kind of enjoyed what I played at that.
- 42:47I waiting for I will I'm buying for definitely.
- 42:51Yeah, I'm gonna die. Jumping right by for Whitehall.
- 42:56I think I might take a week off work.
- 42:57I'm so excited about. So let's just work the first
- 43:01week. Well, it looks like a war game.
- 43:03This is true. Yeah, probably be full of bugs
- 43:05and things, which is well, no wait.
- 43:06Is it a bit shit? Is it due this year?
- 43:10It's yeah, it's yeah June. I think they've actually given a
- 43:12date. Oh, but I can remember what the
- 43:14exact date is but they said June. 20, 23.
- 43:17Okay, bro, conversion, here you go. 66 was later.
- 43:21Corrected versions have mastered the best first of that game when
- 43:32they get. Yeah, so it yeah, this is the
- 43:34thing, because it's a lot of games coming out this year in
- 43:362023, lot of good, massive games.
- 43:40Yes. And initially they would put you
- 43:43off to think. Well actually our shit and
- 43:44missing out. Well actually if the last five
- 43:47years has taught us, anything is week six months because not only
- 43:50will it be the most patch version you only have to look at
- 43:56cyberpunk for that. So I think it'll be fine then.
- 44:06So when I was doing the year of shame, I thought you had my fall
- 44:09was going to come out. The Autumn, which is why I was
- 44:11holding onto my Joker but then, thankfully, it got pushed back
- 44:17and I thought, I like it's going to be in the spring 2022.
- 44:21But yeah, they just been pushed it back and back and back,
- 44:23you've all got phones and now it's going to be, wasn't it
- 44:25wasn't that the massive disappointment announcement
- 44:28weather is mented, human to announce it and he was like, now
- 44:30we're doing a mobile version. I love the fact Jer, which is
- 44:33full of people who are doing the year.
- 44:36Shame who get who are happy when a game gets announced.
- 44:40Just so it gets delayed from the sort of food.
- 44:44Yeah. Yeah.
- 44:46I certainly was. Yeah, I think we were catholic.
- 44:50Yeah. Oh sorry.
- 44:55Have you finished talking about you guys?
- 44:56I just wanted to mention one other game that I've played this
- 45:00recently, but it's it's on game past, it's called pain turbine.
- 45:03And I know that IGN have been hyping it quite a lot, but it is
- 45:06a brilliant game. So if you've got game passed
- 45:09out, Highly recommend that you check it out.
- 45:11It's really interesting story. There's no dialogue, you'll just
- 45:15reading text on the screen. Be getting really invested in
- 45:18the characters and you're trying to solve cup of borders so it's
- 45:21good one. Check it out.
- 45:23Kind of life. Is that is that isn't it?
- 45:27Yeah I think so. Mmm.
- 45:30Okay. The evil my daughter right now
- 45:34because I can and it's allowed. I've just clicked install.
- 45:38Yeah. Neal's camera quality going to
- 45:44shoot, I've gone. Okay, last couple questions then
- 45:54before we can just jump into any kind of ramblings that we want
- 45:56to do. So was any particular highlights
- 46:00or lowlights of your year Catherine?
- 46:01It last year's you did. It was any obviously you've
- 46:03touched on the the your co-hosts kind of having availability and
- 46:10kind of you being a collective as being a bit of a low-light.
- 46:13Previously was intern else in particular that you you want to
- 46:18just kind of have a chat about Um, to be honest, it's kind of
- 46:23hard to remember that far, but it's really difficult.
- 46:27Yeah, I mean, I remember when we recorded, we had a lot of fun.
- 46:32We do, we try to have a cocktail of the one thing that we started
- 46:35off with, but then just it's really surprising how fast
- 46:39recording shows comes around and they just couldn't get myself
- 46:42organized enough to buy the alcohol and to talk about it and
- 46:45then to actually drink it. So, yeah, I was only able to do
- 46:48that kind of time. So, yeah.
- 46:49Sort of Should I organize myself a bit better by going?
- 46:54Why do we do that, guys? I'm just glad that was sabot.
- 46:57Did absolutely Freckle this year because imagine if it was on
- 47:02tour, we'd have to get we have to follow him like those people.
- 47:05That would follow like Def Leppard and you get a Russ
- 47:09Abbott season pass. Yeah, so okay.
- 47:17That's good. Then that's good.
- 47:18Do you enjoy your overall? I'm getting, you know, I'm sure
- 47:20from I yeah, I had a great time. I really love doing it.
- 47:24It was just yeah, really fun recording a podcast and putting
- 47:29in all the sort of the sound effects and stuff like that is
- 47:31really nice experience and lovely to get to know, Serena
- 47:34and Hannah, which I mentioned earlier honest, yeah, really
- 47:37nice. A sort of bond with them a bit
- 47:38more and get to know them as sort of people rather than just
- 47:42people that I see at edx and maybe have a With sort of know
- 47:45more about their lives and stuff are awesome.
- 47:47So that was really nice, just change the way that you that you
- 47:50spend. Then you mentioned at the top of
- 47:52the kind of when we're talking about your involvement, you can
- 47:55have you now kind of leaned on games pass?
- 47:58For a lot of the kind of things did was that like was was that a
- 48:01result of the learnings that you took from last year?
- 48:07Ma I didn't learn anything. Hey, I just, I just came back to
- 48:11my old habits of buying something.
- 48:14Get get excited about it, buying it, and then playing it in the
- 48:18go now, but but, but it's Fallout 76.
- 48:20So there's Diablo 3, forget about the be shiny thing.
- 48:24So now I didn't learn a damn thing but it was a great
- 48:26experience. I am absolutely punching myself
- 48:29in the genitalia that we haven't played Fallout 76 together cat.
- 48:35I'm absolutely amazed really. Really annoyed about this
- 48:38because there's not many of us out there in this community that
- 48:43play that game and probably for why have we not played together?
- 48:46Because it's beautiful, right? Okay, and last question.
- 48:51Yeah, that's less scripted question everybody.
- 48:55Would you do it again? Well, I very nearly did do it
- 48:58again so yeah Chase was he mentioned that he was going to
- 49:04do it? I think you mentioned it on the
- 49:06Facebook group and I don't think you've got much response and I
- 49:10just saw actually be really fun to do you retain with Jace.
- 49:13So I kind of messaging and said if you don't I'm interested in
- 49:16getting involved as well but quite a few other people within
- 49:20sort of wanted to join in and I just thought oh okay.
- 49:23Well I've already I've literally done it the year before last so
- 49:26People probably don't hear my stupid voice again.
- 49:29That's a lie. So let other pills are it's not
- 49:32having it. No, no.
- 49:35You should have stuck to your guns.
- 49:36Can you should because maybe you know I can't have done my time.
- 49:41I mean I think this is Jace's third time or something so he's
- 49:44don't know what the hell was gone.
- 49:45What happens to his brain that made him want to do it again.
- 49:49Yeah. But best of luck to the guy but
- 49:51feel edgy ever is coming out and lots of brilliant games this
- 49:53year. So thank God other people wanted
- 49:56to do it with Because now I don't have to the thing is, you
- 49:58know, you know, if you know, Jace, like we all know Jace has.
- 50:01Jace is a highly competitive person then leaderboards and his
- 50:04life is and begin doing it. A third time, takes him to the
- 50:07top of the leaderboard of people that have done this.
- 50:10We are we breaking massive news right now.
- 50:13I'm just assuming that as the editors and was going to be
- 50:16bleeping this about, well, you know, He's basically announced
- 50:31on the Facebook page on Facebook and I think they thought I was
- 50:49going to say is, well, now that you've said that you're not not
- 50:52going to be doing it, can I please do a request?
- 50:56Can you and your brother? Please.
- 50:59That's strange because they were amazing.
- 51:04You thank you. That's very kind of you your
- 51:07blood-borne stream or I've covered my desk in drink while
- 51:13I'm just I miss this. Oh, the pigeons and so on.
- 51:16I'm so I'm really sorry and I apologize, cast, quite, I
- 51:20missed. This kind of was this content
- 51:22you doing throughout your year last year then.
- 51:25So the the videos that I was doing when I was when I was
- 51:29doing the year of Shame and I can't even remember why I did
- 51:33the blood-borne video but for some reason I think it's like a
- 51:41rite of passage or something that you have to play but
- 51:43blood-borne and stream it. And I'm shit, I'm really shit at
- 51:47it and was just sort of panicking and running around
- 51:51just being panics, why everything.
- 51:55But yeah, did enjoy streaming with my brother.
- 51:58We streamed the division. Mostly we're playing that and
- 52:01having just chat about stuff or we're streaming it.
- 52:05But I think the reason why I stopped was because I did this
- 52:07dream of final the remake of Final Fantasy 7, 70, that's it.
- 52:14The seventh one and I was so appalling me, bad, a bit.
- 52:17I was just embarrassed at how badly I played it and I just
- 52:20thought, oh, I this I can't I've got to stop streaming because I
- 52:24just I don't know. Oh, good at these games and it's
- 52:26just people to make money, teaching me play it.
- 52:29People make serious cash about being different playing games to
- 52:35something, you know, in like being bad at.
- 52:36So this being different and there's being so bad at it.
- 52:39But it seems, It's it is painful there's people out there,
- 52:42cathode trying to study, how to be like that and you got it
- 52:45naturally. I know how I want to Market
- 52:49myself, though. The market myself or someone is
- 52:51actually yeah. Reasonably good at games, one
- 52:54quite entertaining to watch and look at how will she face just
- 52:56came in that long time ago. What the fuck is she doing?
- 52:59What is she doing that? I'm terrible.
- 53:01There's I am awful video games and enter Affairs as a twitch
- 53:07viewer. I don't shoot in two games to
- 53:09see book playing good. I chewed into personalities.
- 53:13Yeah, the into st. Cat's got this gift.
- 53:17Budget cheeks. Just talk over the top of it,
- 53:19and keep it interesting. And but that's part of the
- 53:21problem because I'm brilliant trying to get doing the talking
- 53:24bit. So yeah, when I first did the
- 53:27blood-borne stream, I didn't that I was clicking on things to
- 53:30see what the instructions were but because I was also talking
- 53:33about it. Nothing actually goes into your
- 53:35brain. You just literally reading
- 53:36something. Yeah, and you're so preoccupied
- 53:38by talking is incredibly hard to actually understand.
- 53:43What's going on than to take in the instructions?
- 53:45So I didn't know what the hell I was doing and I didn't know how
- 53:47to get out of the cemetery. I think Matt actually say though
- 53:50it's a matte or you don't have said Kathy need to do this.
- 53:53You actually put it in the chat so it's like yeah, right.
- 53:55Thank you. This is how I do it and was able
- 53:58to actually get into the game that way.
- 53:59But I was just, yeah, reading and sort of commentating on what
- 54:03I'm doing and why I'm doing it. I just couldn't figure out you
- 54:06get far. What to do you get far in the
- 54:08game? Did you get far in to do you
- 54:12like she did you progress? Because it's not I think I
- 54:15streamed it once and realize that this really is not the day
- 54:18for me. Yeah, I mean obviously that
- 54:22because I've tried born a couple of times and I think I probably
- 54:26got to decide. Okay, I think I probably got to
- 54:27the same sections or just passed away.
- 54:29You were Kathryn the gun. Exactly.
- 54:31Same thing. I'm terrible at this.
- 54:32There's no point in here but I don't have the patience for
- 54:36either. I know a lot of people love it
- 54:38and you know, You get defeated but you just keep trying and you
- 54:42learn the dance and the routines and, you know, went to sort of
- 54:45block and stuff like that. But I'm not a patient person and
- 54:50you know, if I die too many times then I'm never going to,
- 54:53I'm not going to buy it. You're like me Kathy because
- 54:56you're carrying in not attacking.
- 54:59Yeah, I want to mash and buttons and and Spike that ball.
- 55:03I don't want to be like rolling around and blocking and just
- 55:07that's not the fighting sweetie. But yeah some of the streams as
- 55:12well. But like the ones that you did
- 55:14with your brother like the frogs.
- 55:15Yeah. Dream.
- 55:16Where you pay 20 my God? That was hilarious.
- 55:20Yeah. Because they've that was one
- 55:23that you recommended that we played and we had such a good
- 55:26time playing that game. Yeah, that was a brilliant.
- 55:29Mentation, thank you for that. But, you know, sometimes he
- 55:31cooperated other times. We were just like, no, I wanna
- 55:34go here. And I want to go and just
- 55:35stretch the thing, and then had a fight in a tug-of-war over,
- 55:39which way we were going to go. But yeah, that's a really good
- 55:42game. Sounds like you should stop
- 55:43cast. It sounds like you should.
- 55:45You should have stopped and should restart.
- 55:47That's what I asked. That's how love I might say.
- 55:49I'll think about it, but I think I just felt with that.
- 55:53Lastly, Final Fantasy 1, I just felt embarrassed at how poorly
- 55:57my dad was that I think want to humiliate myself like that.
- 56:02Work on that horse. Yeah.
- 56:04Now who do honestly, who cares? We know it's not with no
- 56:10nobody's laughing at. You were laughing with you.
- 56:13I know you would definitely have been laughing.
- 56:16Yeah. That's it.
- 56:26That's it. Kind of standardized questions
- 56:31we can just talk normally. Now I can just be myself to this
- 56:35fantastic. At least one more question.
- 56:37Oh, go on then Dave, do you have anything to pimp and where can
- 56:42people find you? Should they wish to get in
- 56:43contact? I've got nothing but I'm not
- 56:47streaming at the moment. Some of the you go but not very
- 56:53much. I guess the only thing that I
- 56:55could pimp is that I'm going to be doing a charity Sports thing
- 56:58in February for cancer research UK.
- 57:02So I'm going to be skipping a hundred times every day for the
- 57:06entire month, I'm going to be setting up.
- 57:09Skipping skipping, skipping remote-controlled.
- 57:11Yeah, like rocking, it sort of thing that we were the veeam.
- 57:14We Mojo Jojo? A that has been skipping past
- 57:18the next. Yeah.
- 57:19Cutscenes. So I'm skipping 100 cutscenes.
- 57:22Just skipping the daylight time. Dialogue options in Fallout 76.
- 57:28Yeah, I'm going to be doing this job for wanker.
- 57:31Thing is a cool exercise challenge.
- 57:33Nice in February, right? We'll send us a link when you
- 57:37can and we'll check it into whatever going to show notes we
- 57:41can and will definitely get that out there because thank you very
- 57:45much. I'll be awesome.
- 57:47Sweet. I just wanted to ask me before
- 57:49we go any further Joe, what if you got rid on your end,
- 57:53Duolingo, okay. And you've crossed it out
- 57:59viciously because you talked about it that we still on there.
- 58:04I thought it was a tattoo that I've never seen before.
- 58:07You're not the first person who's I do sometimes, obviously
- 58:09right things on my hand, add some of those leading like a
- 58:12conference thing. And I'd written down, like, a
- 58:14couple of people need to catch at some point.
- 58:16Just, she's an exact same place, man.
- 58:18And some stuff. We said that's a really
- 58:19interesting tattoo. You've got on your hand and so
- 58:22know. I hate to break it to you, but I
- 58:25don't have sort of people's initial and he talked to Derek
- 58:29from such and such a sweet kind of guy.
- 58:31Tattoos on their hands. He's on the other side, he's on
- 58:34meeting 3 p.m. on the other side it says cucumber lettuce.
- 58:37Mayonnaise Cherry. I've got the Konami Code.
- 58:55So what have you guys learnt from doing you of shaymaa.
- 58:59Interesting. Interesting, Counterpoint
- 59:00anything interesting counter-question like it.
- 59:04Dave, do we go first, I play far too many video about you and
- 59:14your video game playing habit. Like do you sleep and Eat Ru Ru
- 59:20actual person or you're some sort of machine.
- 59:23My problem is, I've got chronic insomnia other go up there.
- 59:27Okay? So, yeah, right.
- 59:30And do you have a full-time job as well?
- 59:32Yeah, but I work at home as well.
- 59:34So, you know the odds. So one eye on the work thing
- 59:37either. Why on the gaming PC very, very
- 59:41serious. I mean, what I can see, awesome.
- 59:51So this lady like arcade kind of fucking layer things mind you, I
- 59:57can't really see your office because obviously, it's, this is
- 1:00:00the bearing wall. This is where the yeah happens.
- 1:00:05Yeah, just sort of let you play too many games.
- 1:00:09That's a lesson you took away from not doing you're ashamed.
- 1:00:12Listen it's just okay. This is a should really it.
- 1:00:16Confirmed it. It could permit.
- 1:00:17Everyone's suspicions. Yeah and he's doing he's doing
- 1:00:22all about sorry sorry. Sorry when you first started you
- 1:00:28had your own different set of rules and things that yeah, it's
- 1:00:30to achieve. Yes.
- 1:00:32Yeah. So he was probably one of the
- 1:00:34first years where it wasn't a blanket rule for everybody.
- 1:00:38We all came in to this year, wanting to obtain obtain, some
- 1:00:43sort of different result. Yeah.
- 1:00:46We've all achieved different variations of those results as
- 1:00:49well. So it's, it's probably to be a
- 1:00:51bit eclectic to kind of go at keep up with and understand the
- 1:00:55supposing the way. But yeah, we've we've not broken
- 1:00:59our own rules. We've kept it how we want.
- 1:01:02To be and we've all learned something.
- 1:01:05Have you learned something, Matthew?
- 1:01:06I don't know you. Look at look a little bit.
- 1:01:12Joe, I'm so glad you're here. You need you to need you,
- 1:01:15Jeremy, have you? You haven't signed up for
- 1:01:18anything else to form, Jesus, right?
- 1:01:23Just need to hand over your bank.
- 1:01:25Give you power to subscription for anything.
- 1:01:30I think I know. I hear you.
- 1:01:32In the cost is being a Year's cost not one month cost and
- 1:01:36especially that month is free. This.
- 1:01:38Okay so I've not been I've not been pre-buying bullshit by a
- 1:01:41have been lazy, so check that out.
- 1:01:44So once again at the third or fourth time in the years, since
- 1:01:46I've been a bit more a bit more better maxbox, Spencer yo use of
- 1:01:51scriptures when they can make it so alike.
- 1:01:53So went to my normal sorted out solution, which you see the keys
- 1:01:57as a yeah. Give me one of them, three
- 1:01:58months and it turned up at plugged in it didn't work.
- 1:02:02Never had that before their hadn't words so I got in touch
- 1:02:05with him. I said it hasn't worked like,
- 1:02:07what happens? Now, they were no sort of that
- 1:02:10with Microsoft because it's shown as redeemed with us.
- 1:02:12And of course, I couldn't do that because I had to go and
- 1:02:15play games and I had family around and all that sort of
- 1:02:17stuff. So I went back on the Xbox and
- 1:02:20it is said, is this your mobile number still Matthew when?
- 1:02:22Yeah, it is. So first of all turn and I think
- 1:02:25I'm now paying, I think I'm Airi subscribed to a monthly
- 1:02:28subscription for Xbox. That's all right.
- 1:02:32Finding my phone and then it said I said, oh by the way, I've
- 1:02:36got to buy I've got to buy. What's it called?
- 1:02:38Neither that first, jackbox addition he went doing do it for
- 1:02:41your phone. I went that's my phone number.
- 1:02:45So not only have I have I potentially acts as they
- 1:02:48accidentally have. I been hoodwinked into devotee
- 1:02:52subscriptions and you're now paying by text message again on
- 1:02:54a premium rate number and you tell him not you invited Terry
- 1:02:58round. He's living at gmail.com, been
- 1:03:01informed. And it has a serpent only funds
- 1:03:04account. So be careful with the trying to
- 1:03:23get refunds because I had a problem where I actually got
- 1:03:26blacklisted from PlayStation 4 B because I bought some DLC for
- 1:03:30Destiny and it wasn't at all as advertised.
- 1:03:34So I wanted a refund and Playstation wouldn't give me the
- 1:03:37refund. So I got a refund through PayPal
- 1:03:39instead, which upset PlayStation, and they
- 1:03:42blacklisted me until I return to the money to them.
- 1:03:47I'm done the same thing, but they didn't black lace braid
- 1:03:49like this. She was in like you I ain't
- 1:03:51allowed to like, play the game or band.
- 1:03:54Yeah. Banned from PlayStation.
- 1:03:56Well, PlayStation Plus. And any sort of online thing I
- 1:03:59played discs and that was it shit.
- 1:04:02Yeah. Because you use a third-party
- 1:04:04PayPal account to, wow. But they wouldn't give me
- 1:04:07refused to acknowledge my request for a refund.
- 1:04:10So, I just saw, okay, well, then I'll just talk to PayPal instead
- 1:04:13but yeah, they were assholes about it.
- 1:04:15God, that is fucked. It's not just, it's not just
- 1:04:17that, it's not just me. Well, Matthew, But I I'm I'm
- 1:04:22currently paying for stuff on I'm paying for stuff, even
- 1:04:25though a prepaid for. And then, so, Joe, we need of
- 1:04:28the conversation. Okay.
- 1:04:30I need, I need some kind of regular pollution, because guess
- 1:04:33what? It's a fifth of January.
- 1:04:35And look at me, but returning to form taken five days.
- 1:04:41If you got the old Matthew back, how is how is it?
- 1:04:49I don't know how to frame. If not just like the year of
- 1:04:54Shame down yourself. This is birthday.
- 1:05:02Happy birthday. Happy birthday to.
- 1:05:09I just I wanted to ask you as well, because obviously you had
- 1:05:13very different reasons from everybody.
- 1:05:15Else of doing you a shame? How that went did you get to all
- 1:05:19of them? The the games to sort of as a
- 1:05:20tribute to your friends. So I definitely learned from it.
- 1:05:25I don't know if we've got into a bit of some sort of detail to
- 1:05:27this and this might be a bigger thing for us is this our final
- 1:05:30show ever. If we don't know, I've got more
- 1:05:36things to say on this but the main thing about that is that it
- 1:05:39was completely different to my expectations.
- 1:05:41I got to play the games. It's a bit of a reminder, but
- 1:05:45ultimately unfulfilling to finish something.
- 1:05:46That is more fun. It wasn't recapturing the
- 1:05:49Playing a game with someone. Obviously if you pick up their
- 1:05:51game and just play it and it became less of a worthy tribute
- 1:05:56as time went on just because I could have done it as for a
- 1:05:58thing as a vehicle for the podcast.
- 1:06:00But actually, yeah, the main bit was the first, the first of
- 1:06:05session where I got the PlayStation.
- 1:06:07Now, just it all down. And we got the games, we could
- 1:06:10play the games that was worth doing.
- 1:06:11I think, and actually getting the disc from Dave.
- 1:06:14So I could play the game and unlock and see it that first
- 1:06:16time and wander around in that world for A bit, going back
- 1:06:21again. After that, didn't have that
- 1:06:22same, you know, making progress in his save, didn't feel right,
- 1:06:27but didn't feel as much. Yeah didn't seem to do, didn't
- 1:06:30do it for me. Well, as playing the games that
- 1:06:32he'd recommend. So the reason I played the
- 1:06:33witches from him, so carry on playing the, which was great.
- 1:06:35I am going to play God of War because he sits among many of
- 1:06:38the games that he said, best game ever and I'm hooked.
- 1:06:41I played it. So that didn't go the way I
- 1:06:45expected it to I suppose. But then, if I thought on a bit,
- 1:06:48maybe I would have Scratch your back from it and I did find like
- 1:06:52some old great golden moves and have found.
- 1:06:55He'd put himself into one of the old Game Boy, camera, mini
- 1:06:58games, and that's a play in that was amazing.
- 1:07:00That was just that delightful surprise as well.
- 1:07:03Yeah, but there isn't you don't leave much of your personality
- 1:07:07behind in God of War Stitcher and all those things you don't
- 1:07:11they're not if it was something like Animal Crossing maybe but
- 1:07:14he didn't. Yeah, that's oh yeah.
- 1:07:15Like a Minecraft world or some Minecraft, you know, where you
- 1:07:18could go and walk away. Yeah, but the main thing I took
- 1:07:21about, like, learning from this, one of the things I've sort of
- 1:07:24learned is the way I normally play games is the way that a lot
- 1:07:27of people end up playing them after their your shame where
- 1:07:29they just kind of play one at a time anyway.
- 1:07:31And don't like I guess similar to what you said before,
- 1:07:33Catherine, don't let bulk buy loads and have loads.
- 1:07:36I found having it to do list of games sacked so much of the Joy
- 1:07:40from it for me. Yeah, it just wasn't for me but
- 1:07:43I'm not the I'm not the kind of person who spreadsheets the game
- 1:07:45that keeps a list of the games or anything.
- 1:07:47I just play it on a win. Another natural way to play a
- 1:07:50game, isn't it? But other people be playing any
- 1:07:53picket like you. Look at your game to pick it up.
- 1:07:54Go. Yeah.
- 1:07:54This one you're not looking at a spreadsheet or anything like
- 1:07:57that or any sort of leaderboards because that isn't Fun.
- 1:08:01Well, I mean that's a isn't found the opposite works for you
- 1:08:04from Jordan go. But generally for most people
- 1:08:06that's not fun. You just you play how, you know,
- 1:08:09the game that is how you're feeling at that moment and
- 1:08:13you're going to feel differently from one day to the next.
- 1:08:15So maybe you're not going to be playing the same game
- 1:08:18consistently for A month you're going to be.
- 1:08:20If you have a shit day at work, you want to come home, you will
- 1:08:22shoot something. Maybe have a great day at work,
- 1:08:23you will do something a bit more peaceful.
- 1:08:25You mix it up a bit but I think when you do you a shame you kind
- 1:08:28of fixate on playing the games for the end and I just yeah I
- 1:08:32think it's kind of unnatural playing it that way.
- 1:08:36Would you agree? Yeah it's going to present I
- 1:08:39think but I think other people might I think there are people
- 1:08:43who get a big kick out of ticking off the to-do list and
- 1:08:45then yeah it's not for me. No, I agree.
- 1:08:50I did that to a degree. I thought I found my spreadsheet
- 1:08:53and kept a record of him things but or on OTC.
- 1:08:57So I didn't care what was on it. I just played whatever.
- 1:08:59I felt like playing that months. Yes, actually no.
- 1:09:02Did you did you? Did you enjoy documents again?
- 1:09:05Yeah. But I like to I like building a
- 1:09:06live, right? So you what I could potentially
- 1:09:09play and so I wonder did he say, I've hooked everything into a
- 1:09:15Galaxy, you know, good old games and you can talk every single
- 1:09:19account in, then you can do look.
- 1:09:20You know, Playstation Xbox Ubisoft, epic everything,
- 1:09:27everything except Nintendo, basically.
- 1:09:29So I got it, I exported in a humongous list of literally,
- 1:09:33every guy my own to which was like 2,500 or something like
- 1:09:37that. So I picked about 20 and put
- 1:09:40them on each tab like, you know, for PlayStation switch or
- 1:09:44whatever. So I did start and and it has
- 1:09:47reminded me and he's made me go back to some of Them, but I've
- 1:09:51certainly not gone. Oh god, I've got to play this
- 1:09:53next because 90% of the time. I was like right our fancy
- 1:09:56playing Jet Set Willy or something.
- 1:09:58So do you know what I mean? Especially because supplied
- 1:10:03eldering and it sucked the life out of me to play anything
- 1:10:06longer than about five minutes for a good six months.
- 1:10:10Yeah. So I'll just play whatever I
- 1:10:12fancy. Yeah but I like taking them off.
- 1:10:15So yeah I've got good total at the end.
- 1:10:17Really Cool beans. I think we're almost done army.
- 1:10:24Guys, getting girls will be its way, it's one of those shows
- 1:10:28where I could either finishing, I or taught from the five hours.
- 1:10:32I've got a disappeared as I don't know, is the last one in
- 1:10:34first one out. It's me.
- 1:10:38Yeah, well, let's wrap it up then and we would normally this
- 1:10:41point do ask the guests to do some domestics for us, but you
- 1:10:45know what? Nah, so I'm not gonna even if
- 1:10:48they ask me. See you around, maybe, who
- 1:11:08knows, who cares? Yeah, get lost.
- 1:11:11Get lost. Thank you very much for being
- 1:11:15with us. Thank you very much for
- 1:11:17listening to his you probably only We'll hear my voice has
- 1:11:21collectively, probably one more time.
- 1:11:23I think that's the plan in the next couple of weeks, but that
- 1:11:28will be more of a kind of passing the Baton kind of show.
- 1:11:31But just from everybody, I think I want to thank kathir a time
- 1:11:35and patience with this tonight fighting through illness, it's
- 1:11:38not it's not nice to have but thank you very much care.
- 1:11:40Thanks for joining us. Just a.
- 1:11:42Thank you for inviting me. That's a now.
- 1:11:44I'll never get back. Yeah, you do.
- 1:11:51And listening and look forward to talking to you again.
- 1:11:58Bye, everybody. See you.