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9/11 at 25: Tipping Points, Common Law, and the Battle for Truth · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

• 0:00
  Unknown: That's pretty good, kids. Good morning.
• 0:03
  As the clock ticks, the proverbial's top of the hour.
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  Morning, you little kiddos, you little freedom seekers.
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  We'll
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  double
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  double dribble for a minute and see if
• 0:18
  mister Brent doesn't show up early here. We never know with him.
• 0:22
  Regular
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  broadcast format
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  or not.
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  Oh, boy. As you look at the calendar today, And
• 0:36
  a lot of times I forget important dates.
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  Did it on the
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  August 15
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  commemoration
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  of the
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  closing of the goal window. Forgot that. I had to come back on Monday and talk about that.
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  I'm not gonna miss today, though, and I did miss yesterday too, by the way. Did you?
• 1:01
  Did you miss yesterday's significance?
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  Did you?
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  Charlie.
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  You think of Charlie yesterday,
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  Jeff?
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  Unknown: I did.
• 1:17
  Unknown: I I think Israel did that. I'm just absolutely
• 1:21
  in my bones, I know they did it. Me too.
• 1:27
  Son of a bitches.
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  Well, the good news is I just was listening to, the
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  charming judge Napolitano
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  and Jeffrey Sachs who I here's a Jew a Jew I like. Okay. Jeffrey Sachs doing good work, good guy.
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  You know what's going on over in Israel here.
• 1:49
  Right, Jeff?
• 1:51
  Oh, I hear tidbits. I don't recall what you mean. Well, I mean, in the overall picture, they got this election going on.
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  Oh, in that yahoo. Yeah. He's fighting for his proverbial life, really.
• 2:03
  Evidently, if he doesn't give the Indian award, they're they're gonna throw his ass in the slam. It'd be nice to see somebody take remedies like that with people like that.
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  But guess what's hit
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  guess what's hit the campaign trail this week over there?
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  You heard about that?
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  Unknown: I just woke up.
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  Unknown: Sorry,
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  man. Well, I wish I could still sleep that late. You know, mighty. I love sleeping late. It's
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  I just love it. And I don't get to do it but one day now. Mhmm. That's alright. Another will change times
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  here in a little bit, and we'll have that extra hour.
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  It used to bother me, but it didn't now.
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  Regardless, you didn't hear what happened in the in the elect the campaigning over there this week, though? Not most recently. No.
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  Well
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  Laid on me. Turns out,
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  comes out,
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  Netanyahu had a forty five minute phone call with one of these
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  country leaders around there
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  telling him it was gonna happen, and he didn't, of course, do anything, and that's alright. We know that happened, and it was a stand down.
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  But now the entire
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  Israel
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  country of Israel knows it about their prime minister because it's in the campaign.
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  Unknown: Mhmm.
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  Unknown: Yeah.
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  Talk about
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  I mean, Trump it's a little worse than Trump grabbing women by their personal spot.
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  Unknown: A true rock in a hard place problem.
• 3:40
  Unknown: Yeah.
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  Yeah. That kind of thing.
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  So that's interesting. I'm still kinda just dribbling, see if Brent's gonna show up because
• 3:50
  with all these changes in the Internet, man, we used to get up and and communicate
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  with every morning Brent, morning Roger, all that. Well, that's all gone.
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  And thank you, Skype.
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  I swear, good old Microsoft. Get some more h b one workers in here, would you?
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  Yeah. That's what we need, more h b one workers. Be sure and get the guy that you're gonna put in as the supervisor of the department, though, so he can change all the positions over
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  to Hindi speaking individuals. You know, Jeff, back
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  when I was in Atlanta, my buddy, the world traveler, a guy that was killed in the accident, my good friend Jim Riggins, unfortunately.
• 4:35
  He had a side job there in Atlanta. I don't know how he got in and knew somebody
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  at AT and T, and he would go out over into Decatur, the other part of town where some of these office buildings were. And he'd
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  get up in the morning, go to the farmer's market, get
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  bananas and ganja, all kinds of different fruits, and take them and oranges, etcetera,
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  and take them up and just leave them in the break rooms of these buildings.
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  And so he was out of the country for
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  a month, and he asked me to do it for him, and so I did.
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  And it was a may because I one of the things that I would get and bring was persimmons.
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  Jeff, have you ever eaten a persimmon? Do you even know what it tastes like? I do not.
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  Well, I don't either.
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  But they eat them over there a lot in India. It's kind of one
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  of their preferred fruits. And I just remember I'd bring in all these persimmons. I still don't know what they taste like. I don't see them over here,
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  particularly.
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  But the and and then there were a number of Indians in those office buildings
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  in those floors. When I'd go into the break room and be leaving
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  that free, they'd see me come in there and they just make a beeline for it. You know? But,
• 5:52
  yeah, I have the memories of that. Getting up at 05:00 in the morning to drive over to the farmer's market over in DeKalb County, Decatur.
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  Heck of a place, that place. We used to be the old one was incredible.
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  I mean, one of the first one I ever had. They had a farmer's market over there in Decatur. And
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  when you when you go up to the farmer's market to go inside, it's like you're you're walking into
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  well, some place in India or over in that part of the world because there's every
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  nationality,
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  they're all in their thick as thieves and everything. It was a small building, Jeff, and audience, and everything was piled on top of each other. And they had this little forklifts where they stick
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  it above and all that, and it just elbow to elbow people.
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  Prices were great, and it was a trip to go shopping in there.
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  I mean, I used to I'd drive across town forty five minutes one way just go over and shop over there because it was so intriguing,
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  really.
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  And for while you walk up to the front door and the first thing you see is a big is a big sign that says no pictures.
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  So you can't take pictures in there because some of those people think you're stealing their soul or something.
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  So
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  it was weird, man. It was weird. I used to love going over there though.
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  And cheap. I mean, it's really inexpensive compared to the the supermarket. You could get all these really unusual
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  packaged cheeses and just different thing. It was wonderful.
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  Unknown: So what? You were going to say something, Jeff? We got oriental markets around here too, but there are intersections that appear to be taken over by the Arabic and Muslim
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  communities because you can just read by the different names of the businesses. Like,
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  where are they coming from?
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  They're taking over.
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  Unknown: Why did why
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  did governor Hot Wheels allow this?
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  Unknown: Compensated
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  one way or another, I would think, or threatened.
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  Unknown: But I don't know. What a travesty. Dow, in case you don't know, Jeff sent me a message the other day and talked about it yesterday.
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  Dallas is now the central
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  metro area of the entire Western Hemisphere for them. Isn't that correct? There too as Mecca of the West.
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  Unknown: Dallas.
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  Mecca of the West.
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  There's a short little video where a guy was complaining about it.
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  Unknown: What I heard some guy
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  some lady was out walking her dog and
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  she he didn't like the dog, and he killed it somehow. I don't remember if he slit his throat or shot it or what. Can't even go out and walk your damn dog because they think they're unclean.
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  I mentioned it the other day. Now I just have a vague
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  recall of this.
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  Didn't aren't these the people that used to wipe their ass with their left hand?
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  I've heard that. Yeah. I mean, isn't I mean, I'm not being facetious here. I'm being serious. They would not shake. You if you shake hands with them, first of all, they don't shake hands, but don't shake the left hand because they just wipe their butt with it. Okay? Mhmm.
• 9:02
  And you say my dog is unclean?
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  My
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  dog is unclean, but you wipe your ass with your left hand?
• 9:15
  Excuse me?
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  Unknown: Believe on the Mark Levin show last night, was playing J. B. Vance's speech and or maybe just a radio station.
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  And
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  the main quote I got from the five minutes I was listening to it was,
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  Sharia law is incompatible with the constitution.
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  Unknown: That's true.
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  Unknown: I don't even think it's a religion. It's a it's a conquest plan.
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  It's not a religion. No.
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  Unknown: I call
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  Islamism
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  and Judaism
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  not really religions. They're declarations of war on everybody else. That's very good, Jeff. It's very accurate too.
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  Unknown: Man, it's just amazing to me.
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  I think back, I mentioned it the other day,
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  I think back to sitting on that day, we're gonna talk about that day here
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  in a minute.
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  Sitting there on that particular day, it was in the middle of June
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  I think,
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  And the voice comes out of nowhere.
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  You need to get out.
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  That's what I said.
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  And not ever traveling anywhere, not knowing any languages, nothing else. I'm going away.
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  Would I go?
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  I don't I don't speak another language. I don't have any connections or familiarity outside the country, really.
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  Where would I go? And then I saw that program on Argentina
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  on TV.
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  And my buddy had been bought land down there, been bugging me to come down there from get a passport, come down there with me for some time.
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  But he hated to travel alone, and he was always going all these places. Jeff, Rickens
• 11:02
  used to race greyhounds.
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  And what at one point, he had 250
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  greyhounds in his backyard. Moving away. Bringing them, sending them to Ireland, to Australia,
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  all over the place to race. You know? And I'm Murray called me. Hey. I gotta get a dog out to Kansas City. You wanna ride out there with me and back?
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  Said, no. No, Riggins. I don't think I do, but thanks for the invite.
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  And that's what he'd do. He'd just get him non slop, no sleep, drive some, drop a dog off in from Atlanta to Kansas City, and drive back.
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  He was a hell of a guy.
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  Good friend, dear friend, very unusual character.
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  He's the one he used to work for CBS. He actually worked for the Beatles too. He worked for he was the Apple
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  promotion guy for the Southeast when Apple had a label,
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  and he was with CBS.
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  And in those days, he was a young guy.
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  And,
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  Riggins just had this unique talent. He he was a charmer, man, of of the first variety
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  and,
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  a hell of a character.
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  And he broke a couple of big records about Bridge Over Troubled Waters who broke Simon and Garfunkel. That was one of his stations that flipped,
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  flipped a record to the b side and Bridge Over Troubled Waters is on the b side. That became the hit.
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  He was a he was just a real character, Riggins was.
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  And
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  he'd see he'd he'd get fired and he'd go, well, I was looking for a job when I found this one.
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  Unknown: And
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  Unknown: he was a real piece of work. He to
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  try he liked to travel. He had wanderlust, but he always wanted he went along generally because nobody else could afford it to go with him. And
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  so he had asked me to do all these things. He'd been telling me, oh, come on. Who would be in Argentina? Hell, I'd never even had a passport. I was afraid to interface with the federal government like a lot of you, especially new people are.
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  So I see that I
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  see that program.
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  It was a called globe trackers. I don't know if they still show those or not on PBS. I used to.
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  That sounds familiar. I think I saw something like that years ago. Yeah. And it was each couple of Brit kids, two or three of them young, and and they'd go to all these countries in the world, and they'd show you the country there at the start of the program and show you the route that they were gonna take and where they were gonna go.
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  And then it they'd film all of those travels, and then they'd present the the
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  country to you.
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  Unknown: Yeah.
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  Unknown: Well, I think I had seen it before, but to this night, I flip on Saturday night. Must not have been in football season. I'd certainly been watching a football game. But regardless, I flip on GlobeTrekker. I like that program, and, bam, it's on Argentina.
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  And so somewhere in that program, they had the map Argentina there,
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  and they started
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  the show up in Salta. Now that's
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  incredibly
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  important because Salta is where the country was founded.
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  You
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  you'd think that they founded it. Well, there's the water, and there's the river, and there's the Harbor. They sailed in there and founded the country. That's not the way it happened.
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  They left here. I can look out my window right now and see where they left from, the conquistadors.
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  They even have the road that they left and and and went down in elevation and went over and crossed and went to the jungle and and went down and founded Argentina and Salta.
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  They have that road here still. It's called the Cage Road, the conquistadores,
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  and it's
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  the road they took way back then, man, hundreds of years ago to go found the rest of the continent.
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  So, anyway, they were starting up in Salta,
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  North Northwest
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  Of
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  Argentina where they still have some indigenous folks. They haven't killed all of them up there. They've still got some. And
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  they came down along what would be known now as Highway
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  Ruta Ruta Forte, Ruta Corenta, I think,
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  which is the considered the most dangerous road in the world. There's more fatalities on that road than anywhere else, and it's just two lane, and it goes all the way from the top of Argentina up at Salta. And Argentina is a very long country.
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  Goes all the way down facing the Andes,
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  right beside the Andes, and then up in the Andes in some parts like
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  oh, there's a city up there. I can't think of the name of it right now. It's just the Eustopian and all that.
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  And that's how they founded the country. And so the people that shot the video did the same trip. They just started at Salta. They came down to about Mendoza
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  on the side of the Andes, and that was when it hit me.
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  What what was going on? Because
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  later, I realized that the because I had asked the same questions that people would ask me later on, and they they and one of the ones I asked Jim years ago is, well, are are you close to Buenos Aires?
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  Well, no. It's about 600 miles away,
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  opposite direction over by the Andes.
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  And so okay. Well, on this program, this night, they stopped there and they're out there at that around that area, around Mendoza City drinking,
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  mate. We mentioned mate the other day.
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  I don't know. Any of y'all drink mate?
• 16:48
  Mate,
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  yerba they call it by any chance?
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  Unknown: I do. Yerba mate.
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  Unknown: Yerba mate. It's a it's inside of a tree
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  bark,
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  and it's a really it's a stimulant
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  and something you may put sugar in it. You might not different people drink it. It's a social thing down there.
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  I mean, it's not just a drink to wake you up. It does have some
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  caffeine like qualities to it.
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  But it's also a social thing. Do you use it socially, Jeff?
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  Unknown: I just drink it from time to time at home. I do. Well, what they do down there,
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  Unknown: every the people that are really and there are some people that are really into it. K.
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  They have a little bag on there. Like, you're going on a picnic and you got a little bag on with your thermos and other stuff in there, and you're gonna go have a little picnic. Well, that's what they do with your Bamante.
• 17:44
  So, you know, you thought maybe like me carrying a pipe and a pipe pouch and all that crap and tamper and everything else is a pain in the ass. Well, try try schlepping around a a a big full of Yerba Mate.
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  A thermos full of hot water and
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  all that goes with it. Well, Bill,
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  we'll be sitting around on the edge of the park talking or something. They'll go, well, let's have some mate.
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  Okay.
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  So they open up the little bag and they pull out the thermos and they get the little yerba mate, like tea kinda.
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  And they put it in these little cups and they got this little special
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  sucker, a little straw
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  that's got
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  its different configuration.
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  It's got holes at the end, and you put that down in the the liquid.
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  Now there's a real protocol here, Jeff.
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  Unknown: Yeah. That metal straw is curved at the bottom with holes. Yes. And there is a real protocol
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  Unknown: on things like
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  you do not stir,
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  mate.
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  Kinda like You put you put that straw in down at the bottom and then you put the other stuff on top of it, you pour the water in there,
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  you don't stir it.
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  You drink it until you get down to the bottom of your, like, your favorite shake at the drive in.
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  You go and it's got all that noise because you're not, there are no more shake left. Well, they do that.
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  And then so okay. Well, next. Alright. You've had yours. You pass it to the next person. Next person has theirs. And pretty soon, it comes back around, and it's the let's drink your bamante deal.
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  It's a very social thing,
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  interestingly enough. But it's good it's really good for you. There's a lot of antioxidants
• 19:30
  in that stuff, I believe. Mhmm.
• 19:32
  So good morning. Brent hadn't showed up yet?
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  Oh, Brent.
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  Can I get to
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  Unknown: video with Tucker and this woman, Mary?
• 19:45
  Unknown: Yes. The Oklahoma City, interview. I just saw that a minute ago. I was looking over to see what new he's put up.
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  So the
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  we've talked about it a couple of days in a row, the latest Tucker with Mary from Did Oklahoma
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  Unknown: you get a chance to watch it, Jeff? I did. Her name is Kathy or Kelly or something like that, not Mary.
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  Unknown: She was a great,
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  Unknown: you know, it's it's very heartbreaking story
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  information.
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  Unknown: I
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  Unknown: I'm like,
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  Julie came on. She watched it. She said, I'm I broke down crying, and then I almost did too. It's very emotional.
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  God, these people are so evil.
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  Oh,
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  that that and and and, honestly, you understand my feelings now that these they've just gotta be taken out of the gene pool. You can't live with them.
• 20:37
  That's what they had to do and overcome with Zionism. See?
• 20:41
  Unknown: They are our existential
• 20:43
  Unknown: threat. Yep. And everybody else on the face of the earth. Exactly.
• 20:47
  As according to Thessalonians,
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  by the way.
• 20:51
  Unknown: Oh, man. So,
• 20:55
  Unknown: yes, if you've not watched it yet, there's there's the Tucker Carlson
• 21:00
  interview that he dropped this week or over last weekend or something. I had the ladies wrong name wrong. Tucker
• 21:07
  doesn't really call them by their name the rest of the show. He introduced them maybe sometimes at the start and then refer back to that, so pardon me for getting her name wrong.
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  She's really like I said, she just gotta be the quintessential Oklahoma grandmother.
• 21:22
  Unknown: Yeah. She's sweet. Sweet,
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  Unknown: nice, polite,
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  kind, all those things.
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  And she tells a story about that day and what happened and how
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  all all the contradictory things that they experienced. She's been looking into it for thirty years.
• 21:38
  Unknown: Things I hadn't heard before.
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  Unknown: Kurt killed her husband, evidently out of grief.
• 21:44
  Unknown: Yep.
• 21:45
  Unknown: Brought forth stuff that I'd never heard before either, Jeff.
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  And it it it gives you hope that well, at least there's hope that it's gonna be continually
• 21:54
  investigated.
• 21:56
  One of the guys Tucker worked with at Fox. I don't know his name. He's producing or producing
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  has produced or is producing
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  these nine different three part series of three parts
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  that will expose
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  a whole lot of additional new things on
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  on Oklahoma City and now here today.
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  Brent, you gonna show up or not?
• 22:22
  Hey, Roger. Yes, Lisa?
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  Unknown: On that Tucker video, you say this woman that he's interviewing is the grandmother,
• 22:31
  and and and she lost multiple grandchildren.
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  Right? Correct.
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  Unknown: Two boys.
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  Unknown: Was she the mother of the mother or father, and did what's up with the parents? Did she reference them?
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  Unknown: She was she was the maternal
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  grandmother.
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  Her daughter had those two boys.
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  And she tells the whole story about how they they worked in the same building. They didn't work on the same floor. They worked in the same building, so they would always go to work together.
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  And, it was a couple of blocks away from the Murrah Building.
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  One block across the street, apparently. Yeah. And a hellacious parking situation or something.
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  Anyway, the the the girl was had not felt good a couple of days before,
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  and she was not gonna go to work that day. And somebody from the office called her and said there's we're giving birthday
• 23:26
  month parties or something for the people who have birthdays this month. So she put on tennis shoes,
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  not work shoes,
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  and went to work. She was gonna go help celebrate the birthdays and leave.
• 23:39
  Well, they were at that they were at the office building when the explosion happened. And she tells the whole story, Lisa, and it's
• 23:46
  well, they first thing they said is the gas station had they blown up the gas station. There's a gas station close to Murrah Building.
• 23:54
  And they both got out of the building and and and met and were running down the street to try and see and all that, and they start passing people and they get comments. You know, they see the bomb squad. Didn't they see the bomb squad over there, Jeff? Yeah. Think so. Also.
• 24:10
  There's just all kinds of details in there, Lisa, and I would I would encourage you. Listen. Oklahoma City bombing's about the last thing I'd be thinking about right now. It's years ago.
• 24:21
  Unknown: What? Thirty one years ago? Well, they almost chose Tulsa.
• 24:26
  Unknown: Almost chose Tulsa.
• 24:28
  Unknown: I know I find it kind of interesting
• 24:30
  and and a puzzling kind of way that Tucker
• 24:34
  is putting this out right at the twenty fifth anniversary of nine eleven.
• 24:39
  Unknown: Well, I think that, it's not necessarily his choice on putting it out. It's the guy that's doing the project. I don't Tucker's not doing the project. He's helping expose it. It's my what I've taken away from that.
• 24:54
  So I guess you've been working on it for how long? You got all these ones you're working on. You wanna get it out. And it is the season to be, asking questions now, isn't it?
• 25:04
  Unknown: Yeah. Then that aspect it is. You know? Like, hey. It's always an inside job. Right? Sure seems like it.
• 25:15
  Unknown: So we don't have Brent yet.
• 25:18
  Borenzty.
• 25:19
  Unknown: Where are you? I don't know. I mean, he would have opened his mic if this was him, but there is a person that's, like, unaimed
• 25:26
  is the title, and then it's renterscommonlawyer@gmail.
• 25:32
  Unknown: Is there an email that's Hello. Are you are you one of Brent's spies of your spying on us?
• 25:40
  We don't know.
• 25:41
  Okay. Well, I'm with you, Lisa. Brent was here. He's not shy about opening the microphone.
• 25:49
  Unknown: I guess we can translate yes. There's Joe right there. Yes, sir Joe. I have a quick comment. You heard about the hit what the Houthis did to the Saudi's, didn't you? I did.
• 25:59
  Okay.
• 26:00
  Enough said.
• 26:02
  Unknown: There every everybody's messing with everybody, and now what's happened is you've got this whole thing over there. We'll just switch over to The Middle East for a minute, and
• 26:10
  now Israel's scared of everybody having a bomb. Well, what what have they done? Now they've put themselves in a condition where there is a
• 26:20
  a contingent
• 26:21
  of countries over there because of their remarks on Turkey, because of the things that are happening in the background, like Trump going, oh, we are we need to get out of Turkey.
• 26:30
  Oh, I wonder why you do that.
• 26:34
  Because Israel wants to attack them maybe and you can't then use the have them attack the country with your blessings that you're part of the organization of NATO with them. What about Title five? Or if somebody attacks like Israel attacked NATO
• 26:47
  and they wanted to invoke Title five, NATO would attack Israel.
• 26:55
  I like I I like the idea of that.
• 26:58
  It has a ring to it.
• 27:04
  So now what has happened is Turkey,
• 27:07
  Saudi Arabia,
• 27:11
  Pakistan.
• 27:12
  I'm sure I'm sure Iran's in it. There might be another of those protectorates or two. Now they're all under the umbrella of Pakistan's
• 27:21
  nuclear weapon.
• 27:22
  Have you heard that, Joe?
• 27:28
  They got a little contingent over there now where Israel was scared of Iran. Well, now they got four or five of them, and they got the bomb,
• 27:36
  and they have said,
• 27:38
  hit us. Hit us, big big Netanyahu.
• 27:44
  So as I say, these people don't.
• 27:47
  They are the smartest people in the world. Well, why do you keep messing up with a capital f?
• 27:56
  Why do you keep blundering
• 27:58
  through these things that you can't even think second or third stage on smartest people in the world?
• 28:07
  They're the most repulsive people in the world, I'll tell you that, with your attitude.
• 28:11
  Not only are you physically ugly, your attitude doubles your ugliness,
• 28:19
  your heinousness.
• 28:24
  So, anyway, all that's going on. Yep. So now we got a contingent,
• 28:29
  which is
• 28:30
  I'm
• 28:32
  sorry, folks. I can't help but lean towards the Arabs in this thing. I know people have been over there in the Middle East. They said, no. No. You got it wrong. The Jews are not so bad people as the Arabs. Sure doesn't look like that to me.
• 28:44
  It looks like to me that that part of the world lived pretty safely
• 28:48
  and and relatively
• 28:50
  peacefully
• 28:51
  for two thousand years around each other.
• 28:55
  Two thousand years.
• 28:57
  85%
• 28:58
  of the population around there is Muslim.
• 29:02
  Remember, other Muslims wanna kill you and take over everything and all that stuff. Well, a certain sect does. I'll agree with that.
• 29:08
  But the average Muslim is not like that. It's by evidence, by the fact that they
• 29:14
  lived. 85%
• 29:15
  of the population of that part of the world was Muslim.
• 29:18
  Well, they didn't go rampaging all the Jews and the Christians. They lived right there next to them. They only made up about 15%,
• 29:26
  5%
• 29:27
  Jew and 10% Christian, but they lived peacefully
• 29:30
  side by side for thousands of years until
• 29:33
  Asta, until
• 29:35
  the Zionists moved in.
• 29:38
  So what did they do? They got all the Jews that Hitler was trying to gather together and pawn off on other countries.
• 29:46
  He wasn't sending them to the chambers or to the camps, folks.
• 29:51
  He had them all in captivity and was trying to dismount to another country and export them in essence
• 29:59
  where the Jews controlling The United States, told Roosevelt, no. We won't. We don't want any of them. And all the other countries they control around the world did the same thing so that they would want to send them to Israel, but that wasn't the plan. They're not gonna send
• 30:14
  however many million of them over there because a bunch of them were Orthodox.
• 30:18
  And a bunch of them don't like the Zionists and don't agree with the Zionists
• 30:22
  on this political
• 30:23
  arm of Judaism.
• 30:25
  And so what they did was they got them all in pens.
• 30:29
  Nobody in the other countries wanted them.
• 30:32
  And then a doctor, and I do not know his name, and a small group of these Zionists went to the German authorities and said, no. No. No. No. Let us just have this little group.
• 30:44
  You make the rest of them. So in essence,
• 30:46
  it was their own judiac
• 30:49
  committee,
• 30:50
  their Zionist ravenous dogs
• 30:53
  that sent the Orthodox who they hate
• 30:56
  to camps.
• 30:59
  They did it, not us, not Hitler. They did it. And then what they did was they said, let us just go through. We're gonna go through and interview these folks,
• 31:10
  And we're gonna sit down. We're gonna find the ones that seem applicable to what we wanna do.
• 31:16
  And then we're gonna send them through a week or two of, of
• 31:22
  psychological
• 31:23
  training.
• 31:24
  Is that what you wanna call it?
• 31:27
  And then we're gonna let them immigrate to Israel.
• 31:31
  And not only that, we're gonna let them take their wealth
• 31:35
  under these conditions.
• 31:39
  They can take their wealth if we okay them to move and they go through this this indoctrination.
• 31:44
  We're gonna let them go to Israel.
• 31:46
  And then once they get down there, we're gonna ship their wealth
• 31:50
  to Israel.
• 31:52
  We're gonna have a bank down there. We're gonna transfer that wealth.
• 31:56
  I wonder how many of you are not familiar with this at all.
• 32:00
  We're gonna let them transfer their wealth down there,
• 32:04
  but then there's a further stipulation,
• 32:06
  Jeff. They can only spend it on German manufactured
• 32:09
  goods.
• 32:13
  We'll let you go. We'll let you take your goodies.
• 32:16
  You gotta buy our
• 32:18
  production.
• 32:19
  And they did that. They even minted a coin about it. Heinrich Himmler went down there.
• 32:24
  He went down to Israel. They minted a coin. You can find it on the Internet. One side, a swastika,
• 32:32
  flip it, other side, Star David.
• 32:35
  I'm not kidding you.
• 32:39
  Go look it up.
• 32:40
  Unknown: Edwin Black wrote that book.
• 32:43
  Unknown: Edwin Black. I used to have a copy of it signed by him. As a matter of fact, I'd leave it in The States, of course. And the book Jeff's referring to is a book called the transfer agreement, and that's what this was. It was an agreement. We'll transfer you. We'll let you have your goods, but you gotta spend them on German. We'll let you have your wealth. You gotta spend them on German goods.
• 33:02
  That's pretty smart, I guess, don't you think? It was a good solution.
• 33:06
  It worked.
• 33:07
  Except when they turned on him, and then they and it was these guys.
• 33:12
  Hitler couldn't send them anywhere else. They wouldn't take them in the new Israel.
• 33:18
  So it was the Jews that sent the Jews to the camps, wasn't it? Mhmm.
• 33:24
  Wasn't it?
• 33:26
  According
• 33:27
  to what I just laid out to you, which is proven in a book called the transfer agreement,
• 33:31
  it was the Zionists that sent in if there was gas chambers, and that's still, of course, a bone of contention.
• 33:39
  If there were those things and those processes,
• 33:43
  highly doubtful,
• 33:44
  but
• 33:45
  whatever,
• 33:46
  We'll just take your BS and we'll turn it on you.
• 33:50
  Believe me who If they were those people, then you're the ones that sent them to their death,
• 33:57
  Zionist bastards.
• 33:59
  Unknown: What, Jeff? The Zionist
• 34:02
  were assassinating
• 34:03
  Unknown: each other to get their way. Oh, my Julie came on here the other day. She was reading something about over there.
• 34:10
  Said, Yixaq Rabin.
• 34:12
  I I stopped her. I said, do you know who he was?
• 34:14
  See, Julie doesn't understand all this background. She doesn't have that information yet.
• 34:21
  Yet, Socrabin, you remember him, the little little little terrorist bastard, Jeff?
• 34:26
  All the prime ministers have been people that led the Ergon,
• 34:30
  the Stern gang, or one of these damn vicious terrorist gangs.
• 34:35
  The Lehi, Lehi,
• 34:37
  whatever they were. There's three or four of them. Every one of the prime ministers has been somebody that led these damn cutthroat bastards.
• 34:45
  Unknown: You're right.
• 34:48
  Unknown: Now Yitzhak Rabin
• 34:51
  was one of the more liberal ones.
• 34:57
  They assassinated him.
• 34:59
  The Likud party.
• 35:01
  Netanyahu's
• 35:02
  party,
• 35:03
  the radicals,
• 35:05
  they assassinated their own prime minister, Yitzhak Rabin.
• 35:10
  You know why?
• 35:11
  He was trying to find peace in a two state solution.
• 35:15
  Correct.
• 35:18
  That's why.
• 35:19
  They admit it.
• 35:22
  And they come out to this day, and they say there will be no two stage solution. Ain't that what these two creeps,
• 35:27
  they're over there. They're Smoolich and whatever their names are. I
• 35:32
  god, I hate to commit them to memory their damn names. They're so despicable.
• 35:38
  Smolich
• 35:39
  is one of them. Vandagier
• 35:41
  or whatever the other guy's name is.
• 35:45
  I mean, I'm not kidding you, Jeff. I saw videos couple of weeks ago of where the city is where they got the walled off, I guess, West Bank and stuff,
• 35:53
  And they've got a catapult from medieval times.
• 35:57
  They've got a catapult out there, and they're putting stuff in the the payload and lighting it on fire
• 36:03
  and throwing flaming wood and objects over
• 36:07
  the wall in Israel.
• 36:08
  Did today.
• 36:10
  They're probably doing it today. They're doing it two weeks ago. I saw the video on it. Yeah. The Gaza's who have gone back to the medieval tools.
• 36:19
  Unknown: That's right.
• 36:21
  Unknown: And and now and then there was the guy over there, another Tucker Carlson thing who mentioned it to you. How many of you went back and watched that Christian from Tampa who's got actual land that they own on the West Bank?
• 36:33
  They own it. It's theirs. It's recognized,
• 36:36
  and all the crap he's gone through, his son gets killed trying to visit his land and all of the rest of the chicanery
• 36:42
  that's going on over there. I hope some of you watch that.
• 36:49
  This is what they're protecting.
• 36:52
  This is what Trump comes out and says, yeah. Well, we're gonna protect the West Bank, and then Marion Adelson, who's not even a damn US citizen, by the way, comes over as a foreign Israeli
• 37:03
  citizen
• 37:04
  and gives him million hundreds of millions of dollars. And so he'll say, well, we're protecting the West Bank so her thugs
• 37:11
  can go over there and do all this vicious terrorism of these poor people.
• 37:17
  Was it yesterday
• 37:21
  or day before?
• 37:23
  And I just don't remember.
• 37:25
  Harrison, there's this really good guy. He's Harrison's had him on several times, and he
• 37:31
  had him on again this week. I forget whether it's Wednesday or Thursday.
• 37:36
  And that his whole life revolves around that West Bank. Have you seen him interview, Jeff?
• 37:41
  Unknown: I did not.
• 37:43
  Unknown: I wish I could remember his name. Maybe somebody in the audience while I'm sipping this coffee or the telephone. I
• 37:51
  know he's got an organization called PPV,
• 37:53
  something about the West Bank Christians, and I just can't remember all the info. Wish I could. It's very noble.
• 38:02
  And what they've done, Jeff, is they've done things that people thought were impossible. They got actual pictures.
• 38:08
  They smuggled
• 38:09
  hot soccer stuff in and actually with the kids at these Christian towns at a soccer game with ice cream.
• 38:17
  Almost impossible to get in that part of the country.
• 38:21
  And all these other things and everything they're doing in the little the main little town,
• 38:27
  it starts with A T,
• 38:29
  again, I just don't remember it,
• 38:31
  where the
• 38:33
  Catholic priest
• 38:35
  at the Catholic church
• 38:37
  said he he wouldn't leave in the church and he's gonna have to kill him and, well, by god, they killed him.
• 38:44
  They killed a priest in the church because he wouldn't leave so they could destroy it without him there.
• 38:49
  I guess that's some sort of a calling. Yeah.
• 38:54
  Anyway, all this crap going on, and here's these son of a bitches running our country, and they're taking the world down in there.
• 39:02
  Hopefully, Putin's about had enough of it.
• 39:08
  Well, we all know about I mentioned yesterday.
• 39:11
  I guess you heard Jeff about the the she's a lovely lady married to the guy, showed him there, you know, hugging each other and stuff. He's the one that was the pilot of that
• 39:21
  c one thirty five that got shot down. He was killed.
• 39:25
  No. It wasn't a malfunction.
• 39:27
  It was shot down by a rocket. They won't tell you that, but that's what happened.
• 39:31
  He was killed.
• 39:33
  And his sweet little old bride who sacrificed her husband for the Jew war,
• 39:39
  will you leave your life, blood, and limbs on foreign shores for the Jews, for these bastards?
• 39:45
  God, you're sickening.
• 39:48
  Well, they won't even can't give her her benefits, Jeff. They she because
• 39:54
  in congress with these son of a bitches that run the government,
• 39:58
  you can't say he was killed in a war.
• 40:01
  Because then they'd have to admit that they're in a war, and they don't wanna be in a war because they've had to vote it down on ninety day votes and all that crap through the congress. So more word games. This poor woman loses her young woman, lease loses her young I don't know whether they had children, young husband,
• 40:19
  and they can't pay her
• 40:20
  because it wasn't a war, Jeff.
• 40:23
  They
• 40:24
  can't say it was a war
• 40:26
  because of the political Jew crap.
• 40:32
  Unknown: That
• 40:33
  Unknown: kind of thing's been going on for decades and decades and decades. God knows it's about time to get exposed. Thank God for the Internet. I feel like Eustace Mullins. God was merciful on us, and he gave us the Internet. Absolutely.
• 40:47
  So we can have programs like this right here and discuss subjects that you're not gonna usually get the full dimension of, and we can discuss them right here.
• 40:57
  And because we got the mojo from these dirty son of a bitches, nobody else has ever had this on them. I can point fingers at them. I can call them names. I can do all kinds of stuff nobody else can do it.
• 41:08
  They'll rail on your ass. Look what they've done to Alex Jones. You realize if Alex Jones would've listened all those years ago and taken on this mantra, none of that would've happened to him? Because they're not gonna go and demonize somebody that's got this information.
• 41:22
  You don't believe me? I'm your example.
• 41:27
  I beg them to come after me. I beg them to put me on their damn hate list.
• 41:32
  They won't do it
• 41:35
  because we've got their mojo.
• 41:38
  Is that coming across to this audience?
• 41:42
  I
• 41:43
  sure hope it is.
• 41:44
  I really wanted to come across to this audience. We've got these son of bitches where nobody else has ever had them.
• 41:52
  Oh, they still got control over there at the country. They still got all kinds of copious amounts of currency
• 41:58
  and all that. They can influence people from night to day,
• 42:02
  but we got their mojo.
• 42:04
  They can't stand up to us. They refuse
• 42:07
  to demonize us
• 42:08
  because they don't wanna send people over looking curious.
• 42:13
  Oh, what's all this about? Holy
• 42:15
  smokes.
• 42:19
  Is that how you reacted when you first heard this?
• 42:24
  Holy. Or did you just were you one of the ones that didn't believe it? That's okay if you were. Okay. Please don't. I'm not dissing you. You you it doesn't sound like it's believable,
• 42:36
  does it? No.
• 42:37
  Jeff, you were gonna say something?
• 42:39
  Unknown: I was gonna say so long as
• 42:42
  such a large majority of people don't know who the Jews were or were not. Or are. We're lost.
• 42:51
  Unknown: Well, Doug, you know, and as I tell the audience often, just consider yourself blessed.
• 42:57
  For
• 42:58
  some reason
• 43:00
  and I don't I don't know who you are. I see a bunch of dots.
• 43:03
  I don't know who you are or where you are, what your name is,
• 43:06
  but I know you're special.
• 43:09
  And I know you're special because you're here.
• 43:12
  And that's all I have to know. If you're here out of your own volition voluntarily
• 43:18
  trying to come and spend hours with us as we do these rantings and ravings,
• 43:23
  that you're you're special because you're receptive.
• 43:26
  And that tells me that you've got a love of the truth and that tells me that you're
• 43:33
  looking for truth. Many of you you're
• 43:35
  like me. I would have walked through walls to get truth thirty seven years ago. I was absolutely
• 43:42
  I was just cravenly seeking answers.
• 43:46
  And as many of you have experienced too, and you're in essence, I wasn't doing a whole lot of praying back in those days, if I remember.
• 43:55
  But prayers are answered, and boom. Here comes this message.
• 43:58
  Many of you, I've had more than two or three of you,
• 44:02
  said I was praying for god to send me the truth, and one of your videos showed up.
• 44:08
  David is is his brother. That's how he got here. That's how Dave got here. That's how their now deceased mother got to be a national and got all that before she passed.
• 44:19
  Isn't isn't I mean, at least if I see our people like Brent Bachman
• 44:24
  and some of the others that that have moved on to the next dimension,
• 44:29
  at least I sit there myself and say,
• 44:33
  they died a free man.
• 44:35
  That's something to say, isn't it? Most people don't.
• 44:39
  I mean, back to if you're new, let's go back to the basics here. There's only been two times, something to my knowledge in the history of the planet, in organized societies.
• 44:49
  Bob Morgan will come on and straighten me out. Says that that when the Jews were wandering in the wilderness that this applied to them too. I'm talking about things more organized.
• 45:00
  There's only been two times in organized societies
• 45:03
  where men lived under god given rights.
• 45:07
  That was the first two hundred years of Rome. We went over it just the other day.
• 45:11
  How they changed the just civil to the just gensome,
• 45:15
  the Roman civil law, which same thing we've got under
• 45:18
  United States code, that's exactly what it is. It's amalgamation,
• 45:22
  a combination
• 45:23
  of those two bodies of law allowing people to use the conveniences
• 45:28
  of remedies such as self help remedies, lean levy, garnishment, and seizure.
• 45:34
  But that ease, and don't they always get you on convenience?
• 45:40
  Hey. Just use this credit card. You don't have to save up to buy that. So use this credit card.
• 45:47
  I get anything you want. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Instant
• 45:51
  gratification.
• 45:54
  Oh, yeah. Pay pay buy now, pay later.
• 45:57
  Alright. When the pain comes, Joe.
• 46:01
  Yes.
• 46:02
  Unknown: Morning, Joe. Roy Spike
• 46:05
  says
• 46:08
  every show
• 46:09
  that convenience
• 46:11
  will be the death of America.
• 46:13
  Unknown: I was absolutely right. They use what they've sucked you in with for years.
• 46:18
  Oh, you got a headache. Take this pill, Joe.
• 46:23
  Instant
• 46:24
  gratification.
• 46:25
  Boy, that leads right to the credit society, doesn't it? Oh, all I have to do is use this plastic. Now you understand what you're doing when you use plastic.
• 46:33
  Not debit cards, credit cards.
• 46:36
  Do you really understand that you're printing money?
• 46:41
  That that that currency that you just spent with that plastic wasn't there before. You created it.
• 46:47
  So every time you use
• 46:50
  your credit card, you're enlarging the elasticity of the money supply. Well, how long? How far?
• 46:56
  How far has that elasticity been
• 46:58
  expanded?
• 47:00
  Well, I believe we just reached the
• 47:05
  level on the credit cards where the balance is over a trillion dollars owed.
• 47:14
  Can I repeat that, please? If the balance on credit cards is over a trillion dollars owned, I wonder what the average APR is. 202324%?
• 47:26
  How'd you like to have a trillion dollars hanging out there at 24%
• 47:29
  APR?
• 47:35
  Would you like that? Excuse
• 47:38
  Unknown: me. The name that Joe mentioned,
• 47:41
  was it Roy Wyche?
• 47:43
  Unknown: Roy Wyche.
• 47:45
  You know who Roy Wyche? White. Sam? No. Not Rory.
• 47:49
  Roycia,
• 47:50
  she can be known as Roycia also, but he is Roy Wyche. You don't know who Roy is?
• 47:57
  Unknown: No. Was gonna look him up.
• 47:59
  Unknown: Well, can look him up. I'll tell you the best place to look him up. R
• 48:03
  Unknown: o y c e. Royce.
• 48:07
  Unknown: Yeah. But he's got an alter ego. He's a trans he's a trans guy and he's Roycia too.
• 48:13
  He's Roycea. He's converted to the feminine side to try and play for the Women's National Basketball Association, and they don't want him to play. Sam?
• 48:24
  Unknown: Oh, that's a shame.
• 48:26
  Unknown: Roger, please don't say that because
• 48:29
  he's not a trans. It's it's a game. It's a joke.
• 48:33
  Unknown: It's a joke. But please be clarify that, please. Because Well, I'm trying to get to it. I wanna explain it. Joe, you jump in, won't let me.
• 48:42
  He's got an alter ego. He's pushing the system's buttons. He's gonna wanna go out and try to get in the women's basketball association
• 48:51
  as a transvestite,
• 48:53
  but they don't want him in there.
• 48:57
  Excuse me. They don't want him in there.
• 48:59
  They only want to put with the ones that they choose in there. So he's got a nice league lawsuit for discrimination, right, against the Women's Basketball Association.
• 49:08
  Fantastic, Royce. Go get him.
• 49:12
  He's a big guy. Let me tell you the way you can find him.
• 49:16
  Go over to Sunday night and look at the one of the last two hours on Alex Jones Sunday night. He's kinda
• 49:23
  hovered in and got that spot assigned to him.
• 49:26
  Great guys from Minneapolis, big old boy, six foot eight,
• 49:30
  really good guy, conservative guy. He wasn't he wasn't the NBA for a while, I believe.
• 49:36
  But I like him. I don't go over and listen to him a lot, but I like him. I think what he's doing is neat on this pressing
• 49:43
  the envelope against them.
• 49:46
  But, yeah, he's he's
• 49:47
  just poking fun at them, folks. He's trying to show the hypocrisy of these people. Go ahead, Joe.
• 49:53
  Unknown: For growing up in the ghetto, he is extremely
• 49:56
  articulate.
• 49:57
  Extremely
• 49:58
  articulate.
• 49:59
  Unknown: He's
• 50:01
  educated himself very well or gotten educated. He's run for
• 50:05
  US senate now in many in Minnesota,
• 50:08
  and he ran for something else, governor or somebody or the last time for that.
• 50:14
  Good guy, another one of the and and and look, that's what we need. We we really are aided by
• 50:20
  conservatives from these other ethnic groups.
• 50:24
  He's a very conservative black guy.
• 50:27
  Has the same ethics,
• 50:29
  morals we do. God bless you, Royce.
• 50:32
  Unknown: Wouldn't you say that he is poking the proverbial bear constantly?
• 50:37
  Unknown: He's talking a what bear?
• 50:40
  Unknown: Poking the bear. Oh, absolutely.
• 50:43
  Unknown: Absolutely. And he found a really cool way to do it here.
• 50:47
  Oh, I'm just gonna go over and apply to be in the female basketball thing. No. No. No. No. No. No. Not you.
• 50:55
  So another good guy out there in the trenches doing the work. We appreciate you, Royce and Roycia,
• 51:02
  the alter ego.
• 51:05
  Oh, lord. We hadn't got Brent yet?
• 51:08
  Okay. Well, you know, last week or week before, you didn't come in till the second hour.
• 51:15
  I'm trying to hold these things. You never know about Brent. He's always traveling. He's like the absent minded professor.
• 51:21
  Whoever's
• 51:22
  here under the the the, his his banner there doesn't wanna say anything?
• 51:29
  Oh, boy. I I tell you this audience, some of you just do not want to give up that tongue wagon.
• 51:36
  You don't wanna give it out, do you? Okay.
• 51:39
  Well, we're a little few minutes for the top of the hour here.
• 51:42
  Of course, normally, if things were normal,
• 51:46
  things ain't normal, folks.
• 51:48
  Not for us. Not for the world. No. You're
• 51:51
  It's not for Boris. Morning,
• 51:53
  Morning,
• 51:53
  Are things normal for you?
• 51:56
  Unknown: Yeah. Normal days. Yeah. Pretty much. Pretty much. Nothing out of the usual.
• 52:01
  Yes.
• 52:02
  Where how long more are we gonna be waiting for Paul to move?
• 52:06
  Unknown: Because he is How long wait? You know? Well, I you know, I wish I had an answer to that question. I don't. I think the the contributors
• 52:14
  Unknown: and me, I I wanna know when they're gonna meet.
• 52:18
  Unknown: Paul,
• 52:20
  are wanting to know the schedule you're on and where you are and if you've got an ETA because it's been going on for a long time, couple of months. Yes, sir. So you've even got the audience, and we got people on here who contributed funds
• 52:34
  for this move,
• 52:36
  and they'd like to know where we are in process
• 52:39
  and if maybe we're gonna get it done before there's no diesel fuel available.
• 52:45
  Unknown: Diesel went up to sea standing here in Virginia.
• 52:48
  Unknown: Okay. Well, Boris, I can't answer your question, buddy.
• 52:54
  No. I just put it out there, but, you know, when he throw up. Well, Paul, you're listening. I'm sure people wanna know where we are and and and
• 53:05
  well, they just like to know where we are. What we can expect, we want it everybody here wants to get back to normal.
• 53:12
  Normalcy, if there's such a thing. Well, greeting.
• 53:15
  Unknown: Well,
• 53:16
  Unknown: I'm not Rory, back to the regular show. I can't I can't I I can't answer the question. I guess we should look at the other side of that and say,
• 53:24
  yeah. It's taken Paul a little bit longer than we thought, and I'm sure he thought.
• 53:29
  But, but we've still got a way to communicate. We've still got a way to get together. We can still cover these very important things that are happening.
• 53:37
  So, you know, there's always a pony in that stocking somewhere.
• 53:43
  Bory, I don't know.
• 53:44
  I'm hoping to get word on it.
• 53:47
  I know one thing is Paul was in a house that he rented,
• 53:51
  and we're at the eleventh day of the ninth month.
• 53:54
  And I was wondering myself, have you spiffed this woman a whole month's rent?
• 53:59
  Just give her half a she said she's letting you live there rent free till she gets ready? Oh, I I don't know. And nobody knows, but we're out we're all anxious,
• 54:08
  and hopefully, we'll all find out together something pleasantly nice,
• 54:13
  Laurie.
• 54:14
  Alright. Best I can do, buddy. Sorry. Now who was saying something there? Somebody
• 54:22
  else is growling there. You got something to say?
• 54:27
  Okay. I wish I wish I wish we knew. We don't
• 54:34
  we're all just on a wing and a prayer, boring.
• 54:38
  Roger.
• 54:39
  Roger.
• 54:40
  Yes. Yes. Yes.
• 54:43
  Unknown: They're Duke
• 54:44
  Unknown: Garstien. Yeah. Yeah. Jerry.
• 54:47
  How you doing, buddy?
• 54:49
  I'm doing good. It's good and down connection today.
• 54:53
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah.
• 54:55
  Well, thanks. Anyway Yeah. I have a question. A question. Really?
• 55:01
  Unknown: God. Those are pretty rare these days. I have to kinda stop and catch my breath before I entertain it. It's so rare.
• 55:08
  Go ahead, Jeremy.
• 55:10
  Unknown: Okay.
• 55:11
  So I have this
• 55:14
  coworker
• 55:16
  that's a
• 55:17
  resident alien
• 55:19
  from Mexico.
• 55:21
  Legal. He's got his Green card. Yep.
• 55:24
  And they sent him a
• 55:28
  notice of appearance for juror
• 55:30
  selection.
• 55:32
  Okay.
• 55:33
  And he doesn't he doesn't speak a lick of English.
• 55:38
  He really doesn't understand
• 55:40
  English,
• 55:43
  and they're kind of forcing him
• 55:45
  to appear. And
• 55:49
  he's worried about
• 55:51
  Unknown: Well
• 55:55
  Unknown: what he should do?
• 55:56
  Unknown: Well, sounds like he's on
• 55:59
  jeez, good
• 56:00
  legal ground on the having a green card.
• 56:04
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 56:06
  Unknown: Has he written in and says that he doesn't speak English, understand, or speak English?
• 56:12
  Well, that's one thing I got to first thing is he got contact with the jury. People say, I don't speak or understand English. I'm sorry. So I can't be.
• 56:22
  And and if we're looking on the theoretical side, don't guess he could be. Hello?
• 56:29
  Unknown: He's yeah. He's
• 56:32
  Unknown: He okay. Well, he can't be Let me put my mute. Sorry. Yeah.
• 56:37
  Okay. Was that boring and jury both? Is that what I got going on here? Well, he can't be a jury. I made a mistake here with my phone. No. Sorry. I knew that already. I knew already.
• 56:49
  Unknown: He's not a jury of the peer. I don't know. He's the what they the particular incident is, but he doesn't speak the language of the country. I don't guess he's a jury of a peer. That's one thing he could do.
• 57:01
  I
• 57:01
  don't believe the jury pool's gonna stick him on a jury where they're speaking English, and he can't understand or speak it. So that's first thing I'd use, Jerry.
• 57:11
  Unknown: Okay.
• 57:12
  Unknown: K?
• 57:13
  Yeah. Today today is his deadline. But Well, tell him to he he better call him or get something in the mail damn quick.
• 57:21
  Right. Tell him to stop and wait until the last minute if this stuff comes up.
• 57:26
  Unknown: I just barely found out about it today.
• 57:29
  Unknown: Well, go over and talk to the boy.
• 57:33
  Mhmm.
• 57:38
  Okay, buddy. Once you answer?
• 57:41
  No. That's all. Thank you. Alright, man. I hope things are doing good for Jared down there.
• 57:47
  Unknown: Oh, wait a I have one more thing here. Oh, alright.
• 57:51
  Yeah. One more thing. I forgot.
• 57:53
  I was last
• 57:55
  I I think I brought it up that my
• 57:58
  brother
• 58:00
  was
• 58:01
  traveling
• 58:03
  through Hobbs
• 58:05
  and was pulled over by ice agents.
• 58:09
  Mhmm.
• 58:11
  He didn't have his billfold
• 58:14
  with him, his ID or anything.
• 58:18
  But he had
• 58:22
  he had the the vehicle
• 58:26
  was
• 58:27
  registered
• 58:28
  and insured.
• 58:30
  Well, the agents that pulled him over,
• 58:34
  he got out of the car
• 58:36
  and and put his hands on the
• 58:38
  because we had some terrible
• 58:40
  yeah. On the car, get the car through it, and the ICE agents kept telling him to get back in the car. He refused
• 58:47
  because it
• 58:48
  New Mexico was corrupt with these
• 58:51
  not just the ICE agents, but with the
• 58:54
  state police
• 58:57
  killing
• 58:57
  killing people for just, you know,
• 59:01
  driving off and young mothers and what have you been doing. That's beside the point. Anyway,
• 59:06
  they arrested him. They didn't read him his Miranda rights. They didn't
• 59:10
  he, you know, he refused
• 59:12
  to talk to him. They took him to jail.
• 59:15
  The jail wouldn't take him because there was no crime committed besides him not having his ID.
• 59:22
  Oh.
• 59:23
  Unknown: They didn't I hate to hear this shit happening up there. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
• 59:28
  Unknown: Anyway,
• 59:29
  so but and this happened a
• 59:32
  month ago, you know, September
• 59:36
  September 2 or something.
• 59:38
  Anyway, he had court.
• 59:40
  They threw him in jail for four days.
• 59:42
  He
• 59:43
  went before the the judge.
• 59:47
  The judge had let him out on his own
• 59:50
  on his own and set a trial for it yesterday. He had his
• 59:55
  trial yesterday.
• 59:56
  So he went in there
• 59:59
  and before the judge the judge wanted him to plead something. Right?
• 1:00:03
  Well, before
• 1:00:05
  my brother pleaded, he said,
• 1:00:07
  nope. I'm bringing up
• 1:00:08
  Brady
• 1:00:10
  Brady violations and and Giglio Giglio violations and McCulloch
• 1:00:15
  violations.
• 1:00:16
  And the judge says, nope. Nope. Stop. Stop everything. Stop everything. Nope. I can't hear you. Shut up. You tell my brother to shut up.
• 1:00:24
  Nope. I'm I'm sending this up to the district court. I
• 1:00:27
  Unknown: think Brady Brady is exculpatory
• 1:00:30
  information.
• 1:00:32
  The government has information
• 1:00:34
  that they know you're innocent. They have to release it, and oftentimes, probably most times, they don't.
• 1:00:41
  I'm not sure about those other two, the basis they are, but that's what he's doing is citing these cases that have this regular format understanding in the judiciary.
• 1:00:51
  Go ahead, jury.
• 1:00:53
  Unknown: And it turns out that the judge was arrested in Las Cruces
• 1:00:59
  for
• 1:01:01
  DUI.
• 1:01:02
  It turns out that the
• 1:01:04
  ICE agent
• 1:01:06
  also had some type of DUI.
• 1:01:09
  Unknown: Oh, jeez.
• 1:01:12
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  Anyway, I'm just saying. So, anyway, so the judge threw it down and kicked it out to district court, and they sent him another court date for
• 1:01:21
  October 2.
• 1:01:23
  Unknown: Good lord.
• 1:01:25
  Well, I guess driving while Spanish. Yeah.
• 1:01:30
  Unknown: Yep. Driving while a lot I could say.
• 1:01:32
  Well, here's another thing.
• 1:01:34
  They forced him before the the
• 1:01:38
  ICE facility in Hobbs would take him.
• 1:01:41
  He had to go they had to transport
• 1:01:43
  him to the hospital
• 1:01:46
  to get a to get tested for whatever,
• 1:01:49
  and he refused. You know? Nope. You're not not sticking with the needles. You're not doing nothing.
• 1:01:55
  So they sent
• 1:01:56
  they they
• 1:01:59
  that whoever the doctor or whoever just signed off on this piece of paper, right,
• 1:02:04
  that he had been checked out, they took him to the ice facility
• 1:02:09
  and they they physically
• 1:02:12
  removed all his clothes and put a
• 1:02:16
  a
• 1:02:18
  jumpsuit on physically.
• 1:02:20
  Mhmm. Stripped
• 1:02:23
  Unknown: Well, the lesson your brother needs to learn, it sounds like.
• 1:02:28
  Don't leave the house without your freaking wallet.
• 1:02:32
  Unknown: Right.
• 1:02:34
  Well, they accused him of being an immigrant because he didn't have no Well, he said the ICE evidently is getting pretty frisky again.
• 1:02:42
  Unknown: We you know, it was one of Trump's big deals, and then then we had all that
• 1:02:47
  blow back up in Minneapolis.
• 1:02:49
  And then they backed down, and now evidently they're quietly inching up again.
• 1:02:54
  Now why would that be, Jerry?
• 1:02:58
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:02:59
  because we have too many because of the elections coming up maybe. Yep. Well, anyway, me
• 1:03:05
  Unknown: Bing. Bingo.
• 1:03:07
  You don't hear the war being talked about very much, do you? It's very unpopular.
• 1:03:12
  That's why you're not hearing it talked about.
• 1:03:15
  Unknown: So And Trump looks on the
• 1:03:17
  radio yesterday and said, after the elections,
• 1:03:21
  Unknown: the war is gonna end. Yeah. The gas could go back down too.
• 1:03:26
  Yeah. It's a $4.29 here. $4.29 gallon. Yeah. But you're like, you better you better considered yourself lucky, buddy.
• 1:03:34
  I mean Oh, yeah. There's a comment of someone. Yes. Hold on. We're with Jer, hold on. We've got other participation.
• 1:03:42
  Yes.
• 1:03:44
  Is that Shane?
• 1:03:45
  That's Wayne. No. It's Wayne. Hey, Wayne. It's not Shane. It's Wayne.
• 1:03:50
  Unknown: Hey. I just wanted to mention,
• 1:03:51
  I'm sorry for what's happened to Jerry's brother, but there is a flip side to this, and that's the fact that,
• 1:03:57
  DHS is now,
• 1:04:01
  pounded up to almost 600,000
• 1:04:04
  criminal illegal aliens they've deported. And I'm talking about rapists,
• 1:04:09
  murderers, drug dealers, and everything else. So there is a flip side. There's a real big reason ICE is so tough and all this stuff. And again, I'm sure Jerry Brother's a good guy, but yes I understand the conditions of what's going on here and I'm talking the murders like Lake and Riley Jocelyn not worry people that have been like it all over Texas has been this kind of murder so again it's I feel bad for Jerry's brother, but I I guarantee you ICE is doing a damn good job. And on top of that, they've also
• 1:04:41
  given incentives to for 2,000,000 illegals to self deport. Think they're giving a point at home and all that.
• 1:04:49
  Just one thing that people can could criticize Trump.
• 1:04:53
  But
• 1:04:54
  when you are stopping people to border and deport these people, we are saving billions of dollars in snap,
• 1:05:00
  section eight, and everything else that comes with it. So Yeah. Again, it's just a flip side here. It needs to be discussed because that's the reality of the situation.
• 1:05:09
  Unknown: Man, I know. 600,000
• 1:05:11
  Unknown: doesn't even scratch the surface. 600,000
• 1:05:13
  doesn't scratch. Alright.
• 1:05:15
  Unknown: Go away.
• 1:05:16
  Unknown: Go away. As a as a full blood as a full blood Democrat that elects Republicans, go ice.
• 1:05:22
  Go Trump.
• 1:05:23
  Unknown: Yeah. You know, they've just given them $2,000,000
• 1:05:26
  worth of those Boston
• 1:05:28
  BioNetics dogs,
• 1:05:30
  except they're not the bigger one that they mount the fifties on or the three zero eights. They got a smaller version.
• 1:05:37
  So they may even have a chihuahua size version of the damn things. I don't know. But I know I just contracted for 2,000,000 of them. Would be a nice little pet to have.
• 1:05:48
  My landlord won't let me have a dog. I wonder if I could have one of those.
• 1:05:52
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:05:55
  Unknown: Anyway quick factor, Roger? Yep. Wayne, yes, sir. Hold on, Jer.
• 1:06:00
  Unknown: Just wanted to think too. I believe it was in the last year of Biden
• 1:06:04
  that it was reported over one hundred thousand fentanyl deaths,
• 1:06:09
  okay, from the drug games that brought this crap in because
• 1:06:12
  they had a wide open border. How many families,
• 1:06:15
  numerous,
• 1:06:17
  untold numbers of families have been ruined forever because their kid went to a party, thought he'd be smart and take one one pill, all brought by these Mexican drug gangs, and I'm sure they were assisted by the Chinese and these other creeps trying to run us down. So, you know, we gotta get we gotta get nasty about this. Well, I'm don't
• 1:06:37
  Unknown: know that we're gonna solve it, period, but you're never gonna make any kind of inroads if you don't approach it like this because they don't understand anything else.
• 1:06:46
  K? Whatever
• 1:06:48
  that wealth,
• 1:06:50
  whatever that is that that that takes over people's lives,
• 1:06:54
  this crap. I I can understand you came from humble beginnings, but it's just this wealth stuff just drives people freaking nuts.
• 1:07:03
  And then when they get it, it it makes them nuts.
• 1:07:06
  Evidently, not everybody, but by far, a lot.
• 1:07:10
  Okay.
• 1:07:11
  That's Wayne. Now we're gonna go back to Jerry.
• 1:07:15
  Tell your brother do not leave the house without his damn ID.
• 1:07:22
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:07:24
  Unknown: But anyway, remember remember, we're all where we are
• 1:07:28
  because of choices we've made. Go ahead. A
• 1:07:34
  Unknown: couple of weeks after that,
• 1:07:36
  my brother receives a
• 1:07:38
  $1,800
• 1:07:40
  medical bill Oh my god. From the, yeah, $1,800
• 1:07:45
  Unknown: From where from where you wouldn't let him jab him?
• 1:07:49
  Unknown: Yeah. From where they wouldn't let him jab. They didn't even touch him. They didn't they didn't
• 1:07:55
  poke him or stick stick their finger up his anal
• 1:07:59
  or up his nose. Uh-huh.
• 1:08:01
  And and
• 1:08:02
  he received a $1,800
• 1:08:05
  bill from the
• 1:08:07
  Covenant
• 1:08:08
  Hospital.
• 1:08:09
  Unknown: Oh, folks, what else can you do but laugh?
• 1:08:13
  Unknown: Yeah. That's all he he's I mean, really? Well, anyway, he went over there to FOIA
• 1:08:19
  all the records
• 1:08:20
  of what they had done to him there at the at the
• 1:08:24
  In front of hospital. When he went in there yeah. When he went in there, the lady, the administrator there,
• 1:08:31
  looked at that and she said, oh, man. Our legal team is not gonna like this bill.
• 1:08:37
  Unknown: He's not gonna like this bill?
• 1:08:40
  Unknown: Yeah. It's not gonna they're not gonna like what they see on this bill. No. They're not.
• 1:08:46
  Unknown: Because they're not gonna get anything out of it.
• 1:08:49
  Unknown: That was the word coming right out of her mouth. She said, oh, man. Our legal team is not gonna like this what comes out of this bill.
• 1:08:58
  Unknown: Well, they the everybody's
• 1:09:00
  desperate for cash.
• 1:09:02
  And and the thing is, you know, like the IRS sends people out all these
• 1:09:07
  they'll just say, well, you owe us $1,500.
• 1:09:11
  And people are so scared of them, they'll stroke them a check without ever figuring out they didn't know a penny.
• 1:09:22
  Now they're just sending bills out. Well, whatever. Boom. Then boom. And everybody's
• 1:09:27
  scrambling for cash.
• 1:09:28
  Inflation's starting to kick in. It's gonna get worse. Folks, that's where we are. I heard of a factoid yesterday.
• 1:09:37
  It was about Walmart.
• 1:09:41
  They said back in the .combomb.com
• 1:09:46
  days,
• 1:09:47
  there was no decrease in traffic at Walmart.
• 1:09:53
  During the housing crash of two thousand and eight,
• 1:09:57
  there was no
• 1:09:58
  decrease
• 1:09:59
  in foot traffic of people coming through Walmart.
• 1:10:03
  Now
• 1:10:04
  they're already down 12%.
• 1:10:11
  Unknown: Noodle. And they're going cashless.
• 1:10:13
  Unknown: And they're going cashless. Yeah. And they're going to a good cashier
• 1:10:17
  less and all kinds of BS.
• 1:10:20
  I am so glad I'm not up there. That's what I was saying earlier when that when that voice came to me and said you need to get out.
• 1:10:27
  I could never eighteen,
• 1:10:29
  twenty years ago is about when it was.
• 1:10:32
  Hey. You shake your head. Go go live.
• 1:10:36
  Everything's still normal. Are we gonna have civil wars?
• 1:10:40
  Look what's twenty years now on.
• 1:10:42
  Jeez almighty, folks. It's it's scary.
• 1:10:45
  I am just freaked out sitting here in Ecuador
• 1:10:48
  and being with you guys every day and hearing these stories and watching it on the news and just shaking my head.
• 1:10:55
  I every day,
• 1:10:56
  I point up at the sky,
• 1:10:58
  and I say, you, Lord. K?
• 1:11:01
  Every day, multiple times sometimes.
• 1:11:05
  So, anyway, I'd I'd I'd really have a hard time with all that crap if I was up there. I'd yeah. I would just be having a hard time. Glad I'm not. Like Constance yesterday, Constance, you can't you with the way BlackRock, they've got the everything tied down. You can't even hardly find a place. The the the people were to take her her little either mountable
• 1:11:28
  camper on a truck or whatever it was or take a trailer over there. It's a thousand dollars a month for waters,
• 1:11:35
  electricity, and sewer. A thousand dollars a month.
• 1:11:40
  For a hookup.
• 1:11:43
  Okay. Well, hi, folks. I've been,
• 1:11:45
  you know, I'm sure most of you have taken
• 1:11:50
  paths,
• 1:11:51
  made decisions to put yourself in as good a position as you're able to be in.
• 1:11:57
  But I don't care if you got copious amounts or whatever that's gonna increase in value.
• 1:12:03
  When gold goes to $40,000
• 1:12:05
  an ounce and higher,
• 1:12:07
  oh, it's gonna be great for you,
• 1:12:10
  but the rest of the world's gonna be absolutely
• 1:12:13
  in disaster.
• 1:12:16
  So, yeah, it'd be great. I don't know the I don't know the swimming pool we're gonna be bouncing around in.
• 1:12:23
  Okay. So what else? I haven't even gotten to the big thing yet. I've been waiting for to see if Brent shows up, I guess, an hour and
• 1:12:30
  twelve minutes in the program he's not gonna show. Would that be safe to presume?
• 1:12:38
  You guys are so flaccid.
• 1:12:41
  Unknown: Hey, Roger. I I don't think Jerry was finished yet.
• 1:12:45
  Unknown: He wouldn't? Jerry, you had more of this horror story?
• 1:12:53
  Unknown: So my brother
• 1:12:55
  is suing them under
• 1:12:58
  Unknown: Oh, shit.
• 1:13:02
  Unknown: 1983.
• 1:13:03
  '86.
• 1:13:05
  Unknown: So you're sue him? Is he can he afford an attorney? You're gonna have to how how's he gonna do that?
• 1:13:11
  Unknown: He's pro se.
• 1:13:15
  Unknown: Well, good luck.
• 1:13:17
  Yeah. I tell you, you heard Brent what Brent said, didn't you, years ago? Yeah. Yeah. The only thing a judge hates
• 1:13:25
  worse than the title 42 suit, civil rights,
• 1:13:30
  more than that is the person that brought it. So prepare your brother.
• 1:13:36
  Unknown: Oh, he's good. He's good at it.
• 1:13:38
  Unknown: Okay. Well, fantastic. Tip a hat to him. Okay. What else? Pretty big ordeal for not having your ID with you.
• 1:13:46
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Big thing.
• 1:13:50
  My great my great grandson my great grandson
• 1:13:54
  will be one year old
• 1:13:57
  Unknown: on the cornea. Oh, good for you. And the child has been through such an ordeal.
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  Yes. Who said Shane, was that you? That was me. Yes.
• 1:14:11
  Did you have something to add? Morning, Shane. Did you have something add to your September 11.
• 1:14:18
  Well, Shane, I hadn't been able to get around to it yet because I'm waiting for Brent to show up, but I'm gonna plunge into it. Thank you for cutting me off at the pass.
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  Unknown: You're welcome.
• 1:14:32
  Unknown: K.
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  I thought I've been savoring the whole time waiting for Brent to show up to talk about today's 09:11. I guess you probably already realized that. Yesterday was 09:10.
• 1:14:43
  I spaced it. That was the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
• 1:14:47
  And bam, bam, bam, bam, one damn important thing after another. That's the year to 09:11.
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  Do you remember where you were that morning? I'm sure you do.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Roger?
• 1:15:00
  Unknown: Well, there's Brent.
• 1:15:02
  Unknown: Yeah, Roger. I've been I've been here the whole time. Oh, Brent. No. And every time calling for me. Time you call for me, then I'd go looking for the button and somebody else start talking for a computer on. Well, that's unusual.
• 1:15:16
  I decided what I decided was I wanted to listen
• 1:15:20
  because figured if I wasn't running my tater traps, other people would talk more and that's what I wanted to hear. And they did some, you know. Yeah. But you you wanted to talk about something about Well,
• 1:15:35
  Unknown: it's the twenty fifth anniversary.
• 1:15:37
  Seems to me that's
• 1:15:39
  fairly significant.
• 1:15:41
  Yeah.
• 1:15:42
  It's the biggest
• 1:15:44
  Unknown: I was in the air. I was in the air in an airplane when that happened. Were you that morning? Yep. Yep. And I had a client that
• 1:15:52
  I had a lot of clients, over a 100 of them, a 150 or 70, I can't remember.
• 1:15:58
  And they claimed some fellow had taken their money, they told me who it was, because they were calling him and he said, well call Brent, he knew who I was.
• 1:16:08
  They started calling me, it was all odd and
• 1:16:11
  I called him and I said, well what's the problem? And he said, well I've got it but it's all down in The Bahamas.
• 1:16:19
  I said, oh. And
• 1:16:21
  I said, where is it down there? He said, well, it's in a bank down there.
• 1:16:25
  I said, well, why don't you go down and get it? He said, well,
• 1:16:29
  truth is I don't understand
• 1:16:31
  how to do it. I said, have you got an accounting or CPA or something? And he said, no. And I said, well, let's go get a CPA. And so I had a friend up
• 1:16:40
  in Utah that was a big CPA,
• 1:16:43
  and
• 1:16:44
  I got us plane tickets. This has been over twenty five years ago. We flew out there, CPA
• 1:16:51
  looked at it and said, well,
• 1:16:53
  if you can give me the information, I can deal with it.
• 1:16:57
  And
• 1:16:58
  I said, okay, you got your CPA, now what about the money?
• 1:17:02
  I'm not trying to help these folks get their money back. And he had never stolen it. No real indication he had stolen it. And if they wanted it back up till then, he just always
• 1:17:11
  cut them a check and say, give it back. And what he was doing was trade.
• 1:17:16
  Back boy, remember back then, trading was on the upswing in the late nineties and Day trading? Oh yeah. Yeah. And he was doing it and making a lot of money. I saw
• 1:17:27
  the money that was coming in later on but I was able to look the records. It all got crazy but
• 1:17:33
  I finally said, well, I'm gonna get you a plane ticket and we're gonna go down there
• 1:17:37
  and get this money.
• 1:17:40
  And I'll get you a plane ticket and I get one. I'll meet you
• 1:17:43
  down south in Orlando.
• 1:17:46
  And when I flew in the airport in Orlando to meet him, talked to his wife. Oh, she always packs his bag, and she had his bag all packed.
• 1:17:55
  I went to meet him, and he the airport was empty.
• 1:18:00
  You
• 1:18:01
  know, that because of nineeleven. Sure.
• 1:18:04
  Well, the end of the story is I was down there and I couldn't get home because there weren't any airplanes flying. Right, right. And not only all the rental car places because of that were sold out or not sold out, but all the cars were rented. Uh-huh. So I went to U Haul, Roger, to get a truck. Okay.
• 1:18:23
  I and all those were rented out too for the same I now here, I thought you were gonna tell me you went to Disney World. No. I didn't have no money back then to do that. I was hurting. Well, I was lucky to have a place to well, you couldn't find a room either. See? That's the other side of it. Well, I don't know how I found one, but I did find a room, and I stayed there for quite a few days before
• 1:18:43
  Well, then when the airport opened back up, I
• 1:18:46
  they gave me a flight and I got home. And there weren't many people in the airport at that time. But in the meantime, of course, I'm on the telephone talking to his wife, talking to calling the airline. And back then, the airlines would tell you anything you ask them. When that happened, they didn't follow
• 1:19:03
  the law. They just tell you,
• 1:19:05
  you know, it's private. Otherwise, you can't find that stuff out. That's Well, the whole part of the
• 1:19:10
  we we know he bought a ticket. Back then, you could buy a ticket for cash, and he bought one for cash.
• 1:19:16
  And it used an ATM machine. They gave the banks gave me all that information. We knew he spent $300
• 1:19:22
  and we knew that
• 1:19:25
  well, he bought I'd already procured plane tickets on my own dime,
• 1:19:30
  but he
• 1:19:31
  had bought a plane ticket when he got there to another location.
• 1:19:35
  See?
• 1:19:37
  He was trying to avoid all this and and he disappeared. And nobody saw hide and or hair of him for over two years.
• 1:19:43
  But the plane he was on, the airlines told me, was diverted to Mexico City. Oh my god. Yeah.
• 1:19:50
  Well, we called all the sheriff up down there, the parishes. He's from Louisiana.
• 1:19:55
  The parishes and the
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  we gave information to the sheriffs and the police and the
• 1:20:02
  embassy in Mexico City and the Central American countries. Back then, I was young, ambitious, and I just did it all. I well, I'm looking for it. I'm gonna find it.
• 1:20:12
  Well, we never did.
• 1:20:15
  Unknown: And then So he absconded?
• 1:20:17
  Unknown: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Scared.
• 1:20:19
  Got rabid and had blood and ran. And it wasn't that he had done anything wrong,
• 1:20:24
  but he got scared, and rightly so, for what had happened.
• 1:20:28
  And he never stole anything,
• 1:20:30
  but the
• 1:20:31
  whole
• 1:20:32
  stock market thing went upside down, you remember.
• 1:20:36
  Unknown: And and Well, unless you were short on the airlines and a few other things, then you had a really good day.
• 1:20:42
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, he
• 1:20:44
  he he had made people a lot of money, frankly. And then all of a sudden, what he did have, he couldn't do anything about it. He told people they wanted to write him checks for a $100,000,
• 1:20:53
  more and more money because he was making money. And they were he was he finally said, no. I'm not taking any more money.
• 1:21:00
  Well, any rate, he knew he was in danger. Nice guy.
• 1:21:04
  But he took off and absconded
• 1:21:06
  didn't abscond with any money. He just left because he didn't know what to do. Right. Scared, and I couldn't find him.
• 1:21:12
  Unknown: You know what thought? What's that? I've often thought in my adult life how fortunate I am. That's
• 1:21:19
  I got some schisms.
• 1:21:21
  Okay? Like we all do. But the gambling ain't one of them. K? Yeah. Yep. And the stock market and all that stuff, playing all football games, you know, just not me. I don't I don't wanna do it. I hate to lose,
• 1:21:35
  and I don't know that the winning makes that much to you except just feed your
• 1:21:41
  your lust for that, your word for that more.
• 1:21:45
  Yeah. That's their big deal. That's our our enemy's big deals. They love they love all this gambling.
• 1:21:50
  Unknown: And they like it when they can predict what that roulette wheel's gonna come up on red or black. No. It was fixed. And it's fixed according to laws. It's not like they're doing anything that the law gonna get them for. The law says everything's bent. It it's a dealer's game. That's a blackjack. I like blackjack. It's a house game. All of it. So
• 1:22:09
  Unknown: I I was holding the whole show. I called out to you a couple of times. Mhmm. Because I wanted to get into 09:11. Usually, I forget these important days, and I saw
• 1:22:20
  that it was 09:11. I said, well, I'm not gonna forget this one. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And the the several reasons, twenty fifth is years kind of important. I certainly remember
• 1:22:30
  where I was that morning and I wanted to ask the audience.
• 1:22:33
  Just like for those of you that are old enough, do you remember where you were when you heard about JFK being killed? I certainly do.
• 1:22:41
  Oh, certainly. I do too. Yep. All those things. It's just one of those important days on an event that's affected all of our lives in the world. This is called a tipping point event.
• 1:22:53
  Mhmm. That's a specific label
• 1:22:56
  for this type of an event. And the definition
• 1:22:59
  Mhmm. Of a tipping point event
• 1:23:02
  is an event like nine eleven
• 1:23:04
  that once it happens,
• 1:23:06
  life is never the same.
• 1:23:08
  Mhmm.
• 1:23:10
  And we're about to have another one.
• 1:23:13
  Maybe multiples.
• 1:23:15
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 1:23:16
  Mhmm.
• 1:23:17
  The tipping point events in history,
• 1:23:20
  these are these are chicken manure, what we're looking at. Not a lot of people got killed. Right? I I get it. Like Pearl Harbor. It's Yes. Like that they killed the marines in Beirut back in the eighties. Those are all tragic.
• 1:23:34
  They should make people blood boil, but the tipping point events in all of history
• 1:23:40
  that the God has orchestrated
• 1:23:42
  are the ones we must know to understand where we are and what we're doing.
• 1:23:46
  And those tipping point events
• 1:23:48
  began with what happened in to our grandma and grandpa, Adam and Eve,
• 1:23:54
  in the garden, and then the next tipping point event, and these are key
• 1:23:59
  stepping stones through history. Without them, history is senseless.
• 1:24:03
  The second, that's of course the depravity of man, the fall into total
• 1:24:08
  unredeemable
• 1:24:09
  depravity without God.
• 1:24:12
  And then the second tipping point event
• 1:24:14
  occurs
• 1:24:15
  with
• 1:24:16
  what's called the flood of Noah,
• 1:24:19
  which is also
• 1:24:22
  swirling all around that, are things that have happened before and after that brought it about, and those are important to understand, but the tipping point events, the flood of Noah.
• 1:24:31
  And then you, you well, did I miss something? No. Then that's right. Then
• 1:24:36
  the Tower Of Babel.
• 1:24:37
  If a fellow doesn't have a handle on those three events and really understands
• 1:24:42
  when they occurred, the the facts, just the facts about them. You don't have to be a theologian. Have you read the stories? Oh yeah, I learned now. Go back and read it again. You'll see things you didn't see before and it'll begin to fall together for you. But those are the tipping point events, and then of course the major tipping point event, the apex of all history,
• 1:25:02
  is when God himself, the father,
• 1:25:06
  killed
• 1:25:08
  his only begotten son, God the son. He killed him. The Bible says he killed him. The Bible says they they agreed among the godhead to do that,
• 1:25:19
  and that's the way it happened. And that's a tipping point event. And then total denial of his own son turned his back on him as
• 1:25:27
  he testified while he was being murdered.
• 1:25:31
  That's a tipping point event. And then after that, there was one other tipping point event
• 1:25:36
  that Jesus Christ
• 1:25:39
  gives us the facts of. You know, when God prophesies of the future,
• 1:25:44
  it's a fact.
• 1:25:46
  When God gives us testimony
• 1:25:48
  about what happened in the past, that's a fact. When he gives us testimony about what's going to happen in the future, those are facts too. We don't have to wait for them to be proven. And Jesus Christ said very clearly what would happen in seventy AD,
• 1:26:01
  and it did happen just the way he said it would happen.
• 1:26:05
  But we
• 1:26:06
  have even more details,
• 1:26:09
  but it all happened. And all of that comes back to all these questions that people are raising Cain about. Somebody told me yesterday,
• 1:26:16
  well, oh, they said that yesterday. Yeah. Yesterday. They said, well, a year ago. A year ago. What was that fella? Charlie Kirk was murdered about a year ago. Yesterday.
• 1:26:25
  Yesterday. And
• 1:26:27
  there were days this fellow yesterday, he told me the reason that happened because
• 1:26:31
  he pulled his
• 1:26:33
  public support for Israel.
• 1:26:35
  That's what he told me.
• 1:26:37
  I said, well, tell me about it. He said, you don't know about this? I said, look,
• 1:26:42
  it's just like when I come on with Roger Sales.
• 1:26:45
  I told him this, Roger. It's just like when I come on with Roger Sales. I get on the show and I say, hey, Roger, tell me what happened. I don't follow the news. You tell me what happened. And then Roger,
• 1:26:56
  he buffs me up on what happened and we talk about it. And I said, I'm asking you what happened. You pay close attention and he does, so he told me. And I said, well, are you you feel sure about that? He's he said, yeah. And I said, well, the way I've understood Charlie Kirk is
• 1:27:12
  that he didn't no matter and there's DJ
• 1:27:16
  Trump is this way. All of us are this way.
• 1:27:20
  We're ignorant. We're ignorant of so many things,
• 1:27:24
  and therefore, we're naive about the wiles of the evil empire and what they can do to us. Totally. Yeah.
• 1:27:30
  Totally. And here we are, Roger. We're past our three score and 10. I'm learning things every day, and I'm and the things I learned, I don't want to be lost on me. I stepped circumspectly.
• 1:27:42
  The world is dangerous. The devil wants to murder people.
• 1:27:45
  Steal he wants to steal everything that you have. He wants to disc redit you, steal your reputation.
• 1:27:52
  He wants to murder you
• 1:27:54
  and destroy. Steal, kill, and destroy everything. Yep. And those are related, by the way. I mean,
• 1:28:00
  killing is stealing your life. You can't separate them. It's all the same stuff and different stress in different aspects
• 1:28:07
  of the same thing.
• 1:28:09
  And I've I've got battle scars that are
• 1:28:12
  they've been pretty severe
• 1:28:14
  and I'm but I'm still going
• 1:28:17
  And I'm not as I'm not as naive as I will. Charlie Kirk could not benefit anything but a a whole lot of it. I mean, you think you're on top of the world, and he's appealing
• 1:28:26
  to young people. Young people wanna appear smart.
• 1:28:30
  So Charlie Kirk has logic. He's gonna and he wows them with it. Oh, he knows all the arguments and very popular, very influential,
• 1:28:38
  saying the right things,
• 1:28:41
  but that's not the bottom line. And if Charlie Kirk would have gotten older, if he was would have stayed the course, whether he would have or not, that's not my judgment call, I don't know, then he would have learned a whole lot more things about logic not being the main thing.
• 1:28:55
  But right now, with young people, that was it, and that's what people follow. He was learning the big lesson that he'd been
• 1:29:02
  Unknown: deceived.
• 1:29:04
  Unknown: Yeah. And not knowing, he kept talking.
• 1:29:08
  You know, the Bible says that a wise man sees danger.
• 1:29:11
  Unknown: Seeks refuge.
• 1:29:12
  Unknown: Yeah. He hides himself.
• 1:29:14
  And when and the Bible says that when evil men are in power,
• 1:29:19
  men that are right headed hide themselves. They don't talk. They wait.
• 1:29:24
  Yeah. Joseph took his wife his
• 1:29:27
  took his wife, his pregnant wife, who was about to bear the
• 1:29:33
  product of conception
• 1:29:34
  of God himself
• 1:29:36
  and he fled to Egypt
• 1:29:39
  And he stayed there until Herod was dead so that his wife
• 1:29:43
  his his child wouldn't be murdered. Herod had all the
• 1:29:47
  boy babies, the male babies murdered
• 1:29:50
  that were that came out of the womb around Bethlehem.
• 1:29:54
  Who knows how many, but lots.
• 1:29:57
  He thought, I'll just get them all. I don't give two hoots and a holler. A tinker's dam. Kill them. I gotta get the right one. That's the way the evil empire operates. They're dangerous. Fella talking about the cops stopping the guy. He was totally legal.
• 1:30:10
  Well, another fella called in and said, well, yeah, but he's getting them. 100,000
• 1:30:14
  is nothing to sneeze at, by the way. That's nothing to sneeze at. That's a lot. And as we hit somebody said, a lot more, millions have left because they're scared, of course.
• 1:30:25
  But we don't want to prosecute people that are innocent either, that are doing the right thing following the law. And I see that a lot. That's happened to me. It's happened to my friends. I sympathize with it. You know, you've done nothing wrong. You've followed the books. You've been a good citizen, quote, end quote, and here they come and send you to hell in a handbasket
• 1:30:47
  and get it done. I've I have friends it's happened to. They use good things against them, and it's all a matter of the evil empire working the system. And it takes a lot of savvy
• 1:30:58
  to keep from getting your
• 1:31:01
  body parts and nipped by the machinery.
• 1:31:04
  And once your body part one of your my my father one time, he this is a big danger. I think I talked about it on here. I knew a lot of people that were one armed when I was growing up because they got their arm in the corn picker rollers Yep. Trying to clean out the head of the corn picker.
• 1:31:20
  And one time dad, he got it, he got a
• 1:31:24
  one row corn picker.
• 1:31:26
  It was a power take, they've got about fifteen, twenty rows or whatever in a combine, but this was just picking corn on the ear. It was a miracle to watch ears of corn going into a wagon, not have to shuck them. And he had wintertime cold and he had his bib overalls on and he had he
• 1:31:43
  stopped the machine, it was a little old tractor pulling a one row corn picker with a flare bed wagon
• 1:31:49
  behind it. And something, I don't know what it was, but I was young, but he got off.
• 1:31:54
  The tractor, it was idling. He threw it, threw the clutch out, threw the throttle up, and the power takeoff
• 1:32:01
  shaft was just barely rolling around. He jumped off, and the bolt on the side of that thing were pops
• 1:32:07
  onto the tractor power takeoff shaft, caught the corner of his brand new bib overalls. And if you've worn bib brand new bib overalls, you know that that material
• 1:32:17
  is tough. Stiff, yeah. You better believe it. And that got hold of that and it was just slowly idling.
• 1:32:24
  And of course what happened to some men, and we knew this happened too, those power take off take off shaft get a hold of something on your pants, and it just beats you to death and kill you with about two turns.
• 1:32:36
  Well, it was idling, though. It wasn't going fast, and they got hold of that.
• 1:32:40
  And how it happened, he had it dialed down slow enough, just killed the motor before it killed him. Uh-huh.
• 1:32:47
  Stalled it out. But that the but the government,
• 1:32:50
  if you get nipped,
• 1:32:52
  you're gonna go through the machinery. Now
• 1:32:55
  when I was nipped, the time was so hard, I went to my friend who I tried a case with, and I was gonna
• 1:33:02
  donate my
• 1:33:04
  my part of the case to him. It was about a piece of farm machinery that didn't work as advertised,
• 1:33:10
  and and he's agreed to defend me for my part of the case. Fortunately,
• 1:33:15
  I had representation.
• 1:33:17
  Went into but he told me at the beginning, he said, you know, he's a trial lawyer, pretty good one, about a darn good one.
• 1:33:23
  And he said, Brent, I I don't think
• 1:33:26
  I can keep you
• 1:33:29
  from
• 1:33:30
  getting run over by a man on a bicycle,
• 1:33:33
  but I can keep you from getting run over by a Mack truck.
• 1:33:37
  If you get run over by a Mack truck, that's it. It's over.
• 1:33:41
  But if you get run over by a man on a bicycle, it'll hurt. It may injure you, but you'll come out the other side.
• 1:33:48
  He said, I think I can do that. But he said, once the machinery nips you,
• 1:33:52
  you're gonna get hurt, period.
• 1:33:55
  I just yeah, you're going to get hurt, it's going to cost money, they're going to abuse you, you're going to suffer damage, your family's going to suffer damage, and that's true.
• 1:34:04
  So the wise thing to do is to not get nipped by the machinery. How do you do that? You stay out of the way.
• 1:34:10
  The Bible tells us how to do it. I'm telling you from my experience how to do it. You don't have anything to do. You're talking about all these evil people, Roger, and I would listen this morning. Oh, yeah. They're out there. Don't have anything to do with them, whatever you do. Now one fellow said a while ago
• 1:34:27
  about poking them with a stick.
• 1:34:30
  Remember that? One of the Yes. Yes. Yes. Don't poke those don't poke a grizzly bear with a stick.
• 1:34:36
  Here here, my wife said, missus Brent said not long ago, we were talking about this and all the lessons we've learned,
• 1:34:42
  and she said, you know, when I think about it, because I use the analogy of a rattlesnake.
• 1:34:47
  Do I have respect for a rattlesnake? No.
• 1:34:50
  But I have a a kind of respect that says I don't wanna get near one.
• 1:34:55
  You know, most people are bitten by rattlers. But isn't that still respect?
• 1:34:59
  It's respect, but it's not respect for the person. It's a different different perspective.
• 1:35:04
  No. I respect a lot of evil things. Well, the rattlesnake a rattler.
• 1:35:08
  Most people who get by rattlers are bit because they're stupid
• 1:35:12
  or naive
• 1:35:14
  or they let their guard down. When I say stupid, I mean thick and slow. They let their guard down. And they may even know better, but most people that are bitten
• 1:35:23
  are bitten because they get well, you gotta get close to them. A rattler doesn't come hunting you.
• 1:35:29
  It doesn't happen that way. Or you get too close to him.
• 1:35:32
  And if you know where he is and where he likes to hang out, you just don't go there. You don't pick up pieces of tin laying out laying out in the summertime or in the wintertime
• 1:35:42
  without somehow taking something flipping it over first.
• 1:35:46
  And you don't reach into places under buildings,
• 1:35:49
  especially wood piles or behind wood piles trying to take a stick of firewood
• 1:35:54
  without making sure there's nothing there first.
• 1:35:56
  And most people that are bitten are bitten that way. Yeah. I remember, oh, I've met so many people. I mangle their joints up on their hands or threaten their life. Had a cousin not too long ago.
• 1:36:09
  He saw and you know, here's the other thing. You don't make fun of these people that are in that you that are evil.
• 1:36:15
  You don't talk about them much. I know you're talking about them, Roger, but I I believe all that Well, I have a very no. I I have a very unique position to address our enemy. Most people don't have it. Go ahead. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Well, yeah, we don't do that. Now why does the Bible say, Thou shalt not I'm quoting quoting the old King Jimmy version.
• 1:36:35
  Thou shalt not speak evil
• 1:36:38
  of the ruler of thy people.
• 1:36:40
  The ruler is any magistrate, and to us would be a sheriff, a judge, whatever.
• 1:36:45
  IRS agent
• 1:36:47
  could be evil, could be a good guy, but a lot of times they are just doing evil. They are useful idiots.
• 1:36:53
  The Bible says
• 1:36:54
  thou shalt not speak evil of one of those kind of people. Why?
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  Cause it's dangerous.
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  That's why. Why? Because you respect them? Oh, give me a break.
• 1:37:05
  No. No, that ain't it. It's just dangerous. Follow orders, my friend. Follow the orders of your master, your captain.
• 1:37:13
  Follow the orders of the law of God and His will and what He says throughout the book.
• 1:37:19
  Know those orders, get a feel for them. Bury your brain in them till your blood is bibbling.
• 1:37:25
  Put the word of God in menthol sod. This is warfare.
• 1:37:29
  How are you gonna stay alive? And by the way, this is not the invasion of Normandy, as I like to say. No, you don't square off with them.
• 1:37:38
  You this is covert operations,
• 1:37:40
  all of it. Read the Bible. It's man, if you read the Bible with the man, we used to say, if you read the Bible with that mindset,
• 1:37:48
  that it's all warfare and these are our orders,
• 1:37:51
  the idea down here on land is to stay alive and do what God wants you to do.
• 1:37:56
  You speak evil of the ruler of thy people,
• 1:37:59
  and that just makes you stick up. And he's saying, hey, that guy's talking. I don't like what he's saying. And they'll start looking at you. I have a I know of a fellow that's in prison. I think he's in a federal was the Max joint, the Supermax in Marion, Illinois
• 1:38:14
  which is now in Colorado. The Super was Alcatraz and Marion now is Colorado.
• 1:38:18
  He's there for twenty five years or some great crazy thing because he he made a speech to a group of patriots
• 1:38:26
  in
• 1:38:28
  I don't remember where it was. Down here in the Lower 40 Eights. And they were having a convention for a patriots to see what to do. He was a young man, homeschooled kid. He was well spoken. He learned a lot. His father was a preacher up there in Alaska.
• 1:38:44
  And he
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  he just and he made the comment on the radio, a radio interview in Alaska later on, and they got he got their attention making a speech down there,
• 1:38:55
  and they said
• 1:38:57
  the interviewer said, well, if a federal agent broke into your home and tried to harm your wife and children, would you shoot him?
• 1:39:05
  And he said,
• 1:39:06
  well,
• 1:39:07
  I suppose I'd be like anybody else trying to harm my wife and children. I'd do whatever I had to do to stop them.
• 1:39:14
  And for that statement, using that as
• 1:39:17
  evidence of his mindset,
• 1:39:20
  he was prosecuted and sent to prison
• 1:39:23
  for
• 1:39:25
  twenty five years, some crazy thing. I don't know what it was. Long time.
• 1:39:29
  And he
• 1:39:32
  said
• 1:39:33
  also publicly in that speech down the Lower 48
• 1:39:37
  that he was a leader of a group of men that were wanted to revitalize the militia. That's what got the Fed's attention. There's
• 1:39:44
  what happened. But the mindset,
• 1:39:47
  see, came out later. Then they weaseled into his family.
• 1:39:50
  Oh, yeah. Wife, little children,
• 1:39:53
  and things went a little haywire there because of the weakness on that side of his personality,
• 1:39:58
  as we say, the weaker vessel. She got scared
• 1:40:02
  and everything and got into the state courts, everything went haywire.
• 1:40:06
  But why? Why? Young man, right headed, well taught,
• 1:40:11
  articulate and intelligent,
• 1:40:14
  but he didn't know the wiles of the devil. And none of us do the way we ought to. We all could know it better.
• 1:40:21
  This is warfare, and if you're not trained.
• 1:40:24
  You know, a training doesn't teach you. That's a different word. Training emphasizes
• 1:40:30
  what happens to you when you learn how to react and you know what you're going to do. You don't have to even think about what you're gonna do when something happens. For instance,
• 1:40:39
  our armed forces have always been taught, I have no idea what they're talking about. If you're ambushed,
• 1:40:44
  you turn toward the fire and attack.
• 1:40:48
  That's not negotiable.
• 1:40:49
  That's not something that you're supposed to think about. That's something that's trained into you. You turn and attack. Now, that's just one tactic.
• 1:40:57
  If you're ambushed on a path or a road.
• 1:41:01
  That's just I'm not saying attack. No, no, no.
• 1:41:04
  I'm just making that point that you're trained. And there are so many other little things you're trained about as
• 1:41:10
  a a member of the armed forces that you that's what training is. So you don't think anymore, you just know what to do and you do it. It's already been thought through, you've learned your lessons,
• 1:41:20
  and that's it.
• 1:41:22
  Well, that's the way it is in God's
• 1:41:24
  economy and government and his kingdom.
• 1:41:27
  You must be trained.
• 1:41:29
  And if you're trained wrong, you're screwed.
• 1:41:31
  And there are a lot of wrong training going on out there. People teach the Bible
• 1:41:37
  for money. Have you figured that out, friends? And if you're teaching the Bible for money, you're telling people what they want to hear. You're telling people what will get the money.
• 1:41:45
  Oh, and most all preaching is that way, there are always exceptions,
• 1:41:49
  but it's just the way it is, because people want money.
• 1:41:53
  If you want to teach and you want to promote Zionism,
• 1:41:57
  for instance,
• 1:41:58
  from your pulpit,
• 1:42:00
  there's a certain amount of protection that comes with that, and most preachers, all preachers that have money and notoriety,
• 1:42:07
  that's what they do. Look at it. The most famous ones, even the most right headed ones in all other aspects
• 1:42:15
  are that way. People talk about John MacArthur, passed away recently. A lot you can learn from John. He's right headed on so many things.
• 1:42:24
  But
• 1:42:26
  he was in a position
• 1:42:28
  the other preachers don't find themselves in. He was protected
• 1:42:32
  until the end. Until the end. And when people are done with you, they kick you to the curb when that that crowd
• 1:42:38
  of the evil empire and all the useful idiots that are connected.
• 1:42:42
  I'm just making one small point.
• 1:42:44
  To be trained
• 1:42:46
  so you can stay alive,
• 1:42:48
  not get your teeth knocked out, not get your head caved in as it were.
• 1:42:54
  You must know your orders.
• 1:42:56
  Listen, our our captain
• 1:42:58
  is perfect.
• 1:43:00
  And then to follow his orders is absolute
• 1:43:03
  safety in the midst of battle. The old saying in the Christian world used to be centuries ago,
• 1:43:09
  let us seek safety
• 1:43:11
  in the midst of battle.
• 1:43:13
  Well, that's true. You you do that's the only safe place there is, Roger.
• 1:43:17
  But
• 1:43:18
  to be safe, you must follow the orders of your captain
• 1:43:22
  or you're gonna get hurt.
• 1:43:24
  And the Bible just over and over, that's the theme that we're fighting this war for the land. It's a war for our land.
• 1:43:33
  And what is it we're supposed to do? Roger, what
• 1:43:36
  I'd like to like to do is open it up for comments and questions that's enjoyable and I think helpful.
• 1:43:43
  Unknown: It is.
• 1:43:44
  Audience,
• 1:43:45
  I know some you got something to ask,
• 1:43:48
  add, analyze.
• 1:43:50
  Unknown: Yes. I have a question.
• 1:43:54
  Unknown: Go ahead. Joe. Joe. Right? Yeah. Joe. That's Joe.
• 1:43:59
  Unknown: Think it was John Adams who said the easiest way for evil to triumph
• 1:44:04
  is for good man man to stand by and do nothing.
• 1:44:08
  Unknown: Well, if you listen Joe, I'm not accusing you. And I'm glad you said this because there are 100 other people asking the same question about what I just said.
• 1:44:19
  But if I say if people notice, and I'll I'll emphasize
• 1:44:22
  it again,
• 1:44:24
  I didn't say stand by and do nothing.
• 1:44:27
  I said obey orders. And if you don't obey orders, you're gonna get hurt. And the number one order is, you stay away from these people.
• 1:44:35
  Once you identify them, and the Bible's got a lot to say about how to identify them. Once you do, you stay away from them like a rattlesnake.
• 1:44:42
  Unknown: Go to the comment. Yeah. Go ahead and tell them. The rattlesnake does
• 1:44:47
  pursue you with the clock cameras.
• 1:44:50
  The And they grow they grow and they grow and they grow and that is what the data centers is about is to profile every
• 1:44:58
  Unknown: living person on the planet Earth. Okay. Okay. That's good. Digitize your soul. That's good, Joe. I'm glad you're bringing all this up. So let's talk about that. These are questions I've got to I gotta wrestle with and maybe you think you already have and
• 1:45:12
  but I need to wrestle with them. No matter what technology they bring against us,
• 1:45:19
  we still
• 1:45:21
  are bound for our own safety to follow the orders of Jesus Christ as he has delivered them throughout the 66 books of the Bible,
• 1:45:30
  period.
• 1:45:31
  There is no other way.
• 1:45:34
  Remember
• 1:45:36
  Lavoie
• 1:45:37
  Lavoie Finnegan? Was that Finnegan. Yeah. Finnecom. Yeah.
• 1:45:41
  He was, he was climbing,
• 1:45:44
  electric poles and taking down the cameras that the government was putting up.
• 1:45:49
  And, they shot him and killed him. You remember? Brutal. I remember that. I didn't know he was doing that. Oh, yeah. I've seen videos of him doing it. Uh-huh. Now, is that that's the head on approach. I say, no. No. No. No.
• 1:46:02
  The head on approach. Well, you'll lose the battle and you'll get hurt and you'll not do any good.
• 1:46:08
  Jesus Christ said, do not square off with the evil man. Don't.
• 1:46:15
  No, sir.
• 1:46:16
  And this he's a rattlesnake. You wanna you wanna play with a rattlesnake? Make fun of a rattlesnake? Joe, I'm not talking to you directly, but again, I'm glad you brought up the questions and the this is the right questions.
• 1:46:27
  If you don't ask the right questions, you'll never get the right answer. That's important.
• 1:46:32
  But I had a cousin recently
• 1:46:34
  that ran across
• 1:46:37
  a baby rattlesnake, a rattler.
• 1:46:40
  And they're little tiny things, but of course, as people in America know, they're more deadly than the grown ups,
• 1:46:46
  the adult rattlesnakes,
• 1:46:47
  and for reasons of survival when they're little. Well, his mother his mother-in-law was there for holiday meal and he said, well, I'll just catch this little booger and take him in
• 1:46:57
  and scare my mother-in-law because his mother-in-law him. Oh lord. They got along real good.
• 1:47:03
  Unknown: Up until that point. Well,
• 1:47:06
  Unknown: he's no, they still get along but long story short was he had to call a neighbor and get him to the hospital pretty quick. It was over an hour drive
• 1:47:15
  and before I got out of it, it cost him 98,090
• 1:47:18
  almost $99,000
• 1:47:20
  Unknown: and the little baby did him evidently.
• 1:47:24
  Unknown: Oh yeah. Almost cost him his life and what that little dickens did was he had him behind the neck. You know, you think get him there. You got it. Yes.
• 1:47:31
  And he was carrying him and he wiggled around and got his
• 1:47:35
  fang hooked into his finger.
• 1:47:37
  Oh, shit. Now, I'd had that happen with non poisonous snakes. I learned that lesson when I was a boy. You don't I'd pick a snake up, a black snake or something up behind the
• 1:47:47
  neck, right behind the mouth.
• 1:47:51
  And now they the ones we had there, they could they'd wiggle around and hook their teeth into you, and then you had to get rid of them. And, of course, that's dangerous too because teeth of any snake is dangerous because of the bacteria and filth that they can put into your system.
• 1:48:06
  But a rattler, of course, can kill you
• 1:48:09
  depending upon your age and how much venom and all that and the age of the snake.
• 1:48:14
  But he wanted to play with the rattlesnake. You know, you don't play with rattlesnakes. You don't play with these people. Don't joke with them. You don't send them Christmas cards. If you're forced to see them on the streets, you say hello.
• 1:48:25
  Like the Bible says,
• 1:48:27
  treat them as heathens and tax collectors.
• 1:48:30
  Well, do you treat a tax Well,
• 1:48:32
  if you're forced to say hi to him, to keep him to to not insult him, you might say hi, but other than that, just stay away from him, then you don't have to worry about it. It's that simple. That's a good start. There's a lot more,
• 1:48:45
  But don't antagonize them and
• 1:48:48
  Unknown: stay away from them. Go ahead, Roger or what? Well, was Joe, actually. I do have something. Joe, what do you want to add? Yeah. Well, a question.
• 1:48:58
  Unknown: Are you certain about Mavoie Fennecum because
• 1:49:02
  of photos of us, the movies and not movies, but the videos that I saw
• 1:49:08
  was he was driving
• 1:49:10
  someone to the hospital
• 1:49:12
  and he got out with his out of the vehicle with his hands up and they shot him dead right there. He wasn't cutting down anything. That's a no. No. But he was doing that. That's what he'd been doing all along.
• 1:49:24
  Unknown: I mean, long before that, he climbed the poles. I all I know is what I see on the Internet. That's why I'm doing it. Now he was attacking these days. Go ahead. I'm just saying you don't antagonize,
• 1:49:37
  Joe. You know what I'm saying. I know you do. No. They shot him dead. He had his hands up, and that was a murder. Clearly murder.
• 1:49:45
  I mean, from every angle you look at it, and the murder was ordered, by the way.
• 1:49:49
  We we know that from on high. The state police were useful idiots in that case,
• 1:49:54
  and they should be prosecuted for murder. I think they knew better.
• 1:49:57
  Yeah. But
• 1:50:00
  don't we're we're in a world war,
• 1:50:02
  and
• 1:50:03
  do not be amazed, brother, said Jesus Christ, if the world hates you. It hated me before it hated you, and it hates you.
• 1:50:11
  The world hates you because the world hates me.
• 1:50:15
  Period. And then he said,
• 1:50:17
  the reason get more specific, the reason the world hates you is because
• 1:50:23
  I have chosen you
• 1:50:26
  out
• 1:50:26
  of the world,
• 1:50:28
  which of course mean that
• 1:50:31
  they weren't chosen out. It's envy. And Paul the apostle says that. They're envious.
• 1:50:37
  All of the battle system is. What really do they hate?
• 1:50:42
  It's not you. It's the truth.
• 1:50:45
  They can't stand the truth. I get your yeah. That's true. But Jesus Christ said they hate me.
• 1:50:51
  Unknown: The truth. That's what I'm saying. Well, he was the truth.
• 1:50:54
  Unknown: Well, they hate me, but they hate that's right. Okay, Roger. I see your point. Jesus Christ said, and here's your point then. Jesus Christ said, John fourteen six,
• 1:51:03
  I am
• 1:51:05
  the
• 1:51:07
  truth.
• 1:51:09
  Unknown: That's what it says. Point blank. So Yep. I get your point. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. And they hate it. They hate him. They hate us. And and but I tell you, I would there is a pecking order in their hate. Did you know that, Brent?
• 1:51:23
  Oh, I'm sure. And I heard this by a worth by an Orthodox man.
• 1:51:26
  Uh-huh. So they hate you think they hate you? They hate us more first.
• 1:51:32
  Then
• 1:51:33
  they hate who's this? The Palestinians,
• 1:51:36
  and then they hate you.
• 1:51:38
  So we're kinda down the pecking order.
• 1:51:40
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:51:42
  I don't know, Roger. It may be in that case. Yeah. But the hate's there. I yeah. I haven't thought that through.
• 1:51:47
  But to not miss it, just to recap. Joe, did you have another comment before I go on?
• 1:51:56
  Unknown: Definitely not. He's he's working. I'm
• 1:51:59
  Unknown: killing weight. I have a comment. What's that, Joe? He's
• 1:52:04
  Unknown: killing weeds.
• 1:52:05
  Unknown: Killing
• 1:52:06
  Unknown: weeds. Oh, okay. Have fun, Joe. Alright. Wish somebody else had something. Well, Paul's there and somebody else is there. Paul, we're gonna defer to you. Comment. I have a comment to set the record straight. Lavoie Finnecom was with the people
• 1:52:19
  that were at the
• 1:52:22
  Mallier Game Preserve
• 1:52:24
  that were attempting to take that land back from the BLM,
• 1:52:28
  and he was in he was driving a truck
• 1:52:32
  with that was filled with people that were going from that county
• 1:52:36
  to visit with to meet with the county sheriff of a neighboring county
• 1:52:43
  that had
• 1:52:44
  presented himself as a constitutional
• 1:52:47
  sheriff
• 1:52:48
  that would help them in their event.
• 1:52:50
  I have seen absolutely no evidence of Lavoie Finnecombe, this guy in his seventies, climbing any kind of a pole or trying to address any kind of a camera. The only place I saw him when I watched almost the entire events of the Mallier game preserve, I saw him sitting on a folding lawn chair, holding a weapon,
• 1:53:10
  guarding the gate.
• 1:53:12
  And that was as far as he got it. I
• 1:53:15
  Unknown: haven't seen everything you've seen, and you haven't seen everything I've seen. All I know is what I saw on the Internet. Yeah. He was staring down
• 1:53:23
  those cameras. That really happened. The guy went with the Internet. Yeah. The guy was in his seventies.
• 1:53:29
  Unknown: The guy was in his seventies. How how is he gonna do that?
• 1:53:32
  Unknown: So am I. I I can climb the pole. Yeah. I can climb the But but Alright. Whatever,
• 1:53:38
  Joe. I'm just reporting what I saw on the Internet.
• 1:53:42
  I haven't seen everything you've seen, but you haven't seen everything I've seen. So why would you deny that it's true?
• 1:53:49
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:53:49
  I personally haven't seen any evidence of that and just
• 1:53:54
  from
• 1:53:56
  I mean,
• 1:53:57
  I watched
• 1:53:59
  countless
• 1:54:00
  hours
• 1:54:01
  of what was going on at the Mallier King Preserve.
• 1:54:05
  Countless. I watched every livestream.
• 1:54:07
  I watched every single
• 1:54:10
  influencer
• 1:54:11
  that was reporting on it. I was watching Pete Santilli and Pete Santilli,
• 1:54:17
  who was actually inserted into the Mallier game preserve events
• 1:54:21
  and wound up being locked up for eighteen months over it and still hadn't been charged.
• 1:54:28
  Unknown: Well, there you go, friends. Then we got you got me saying I saw a video of him do it and Paul saying that that can't be true. Now I don't know how do you evaluate that evidence. I'm not saying it can't be true. I'm saying I don't believe it. For I know I know LaFoy Finnecombe as a good man, and I don't think that they lowered themselves
• 1:54:49
  Unknown: to property damage
• 1:54:51
  Unknown: because they wouldn't have been that stupid. Well, I saw it. I saw him doing it, and I don't. And I didn't blame him at the time because I get tired of that kind of stuff too.
• 1:55:00
  And they didn't shoot him. I don't think because of that. They shot him because of they just they didn't wanna put up
• 1:55:07
  within. They hated him, and he was dangerous to what they wanted. Is there something wrong with that evaluation, Paul?
• 1:55:13
  Unknown: What they did
• 1:55:15
  was
• 1:55:16
  they set up a meeting that was in a neighboring county,
• 1:55:20
  and they picked the area of road
• 1:55:24
  where there were no cameras. There was
• 1:55:27
  no seeing what was in front of you or what was behind you,
• 1:55:32
  they set up an ambush,
• 1:55:34
  and they shot him
• 1:55:37
  unarmed with his hands in the air.
• 1:55:41
  Unknown: Think we all know that, Paul. I mean, that that's a famous video. We've all probably seen it. And I'm talking about what happened before, what I saw on the Internet.
• 1:55:50
  People can take it or leave it, but I don't wanna argue about it. I saw it. I'm telling you what I saw, and my job is to tell you what I saw, and I'm telling you. There you go. And I and and there's nothing that maybe nothing really wrong with that. I don't know where it was, whether it on his property or somebody else's property.
• 1:56:05
  But here's my point. I'll say it again. Be careful
• 1:56:09
  not to poke them in the eye. That's the point.
• 1:56:12
  I mean, when you're poking when you're poking cameras in the eye, that's poking them in the eye. All these things are dangerous. You know, when I talk, Joe or yeah.
• 1:56:22
  Joe, when I talk, I never know how people are taking what I'm talking. Funny thing, I said one thing about something I saw on the Internet, and all of a sudden, you're trying to correct me about what happened when they shot him and all. I I didn't even say anything about that except that they shot him. And I did correct the record. There's no record to correct.
• 1:56:40
  I'm reporting what I saw. This is what is the job of every Christian
• 1:56:45
  man and woman, is to simply testify to what they saw or what they and other people can evaluate it. You say you don't believe it. Well, that's the way it's supposed to work. You don't wanna believe it. I'm I'm not here to twist any arms. You're speaking with Paul, not Jovic now. Somebody else wanted to talk. Lisa wants to talk too. She said you're speaking to Paul, I think, and not Joe.
• 1:57:08
  Right. Oh, I said Joe.
• 1:57:11
  Did I say Joe? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. You did. Oh, well, yeah. I wasn't talking. I was talking to Paul. Yeah.
• 1:57:17
  It way just reporting what I saw. But Joe's out there. He knows
• 1:57:21
  Unknown: what we're saying. Go ahead. Yeah. I was just gonna say Paul's
• 1:57:24
  got things to do, so he can shuffle on off and hopefully go apply his efforts efforts over there instead of worrying about mister Finnecombe.
• 1:57:33
  So
• 1:57:36
  but, yeah, it was just an ugly place The US is in. It's been going on. Waco,
• 1:57:41
  I mean, just go down the litany of stuff. Mhmm. Yeah.
• 1:57:45
  So here we are today commemorating
• 1:57:48
  the Twin Towers.
• 1:57:50
  Uh-huh. Which hopefully is gonna come
• 1:57:53
  back up
• 1:57:54
  as we go forward. Probably not, but people are,
• 1:57:58
  you know, there's more people like JFK.
• 1:58:00
  90 something percent don't think he was killed by Lee Arvin Oswald.
• 1:58:04
  That kind of thing. It's just adding
• 1:58:07
  to the general
• 1:58:09
  unease.
• 1:58:11
  Is that a good way to put it?
• 1:58:13
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. No. I I see it.
• 1:58:15
  I see it. Well, just to quickly review. Somebody else opened their mouth. I'm I'm looking for somebody to comment.
• 1:58:23
  Unknown: Well, they're about to.
• 1:58:26
  Unknown: I was just gonna leave a comment for Brent about the snakes, rattlesnakes.
• 1:58:31
  Unknown: Yes, sir. Oh, yeah. Rattlers.
• 1:58:33
  Unknown: The the baby ones, they they say they don't
• 1:58:36
  the baby rattlesnakes don't know how to let go. They just keep injecting venom.
• 1:58:41
  Unknown: Oh, okay. I understand that.
• 1:58:43
  Mhmm. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I wanted to ask you something. What about these these sex that worship rattlesnakes
• 1:58:50
  or use them in their worship? What about those wackos?
• 1:58:53
  Or up there in the in the the Smokies.
• 1:58:56
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. They really exist, and that's based upon
• 1:59:00
  there are two places in the New Testament in the Greek manuscripts.
• 1:59:05
  Two places where there's 12 verses a piece
• 1:59:08
  that is clear as crystal, clear as crystal, are not part of the New Testament.
• 1:59:13
  And the part about picking up the rattlesnakes is the ending of the Gospel of Mark, 12 verse, about 12 verses. And
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  the other one is the 12 verses the last verse of John chapter seven and the first 11 verses of John chapter eight,
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  the woman caught in adultery. That's clearly not in any manuscripts of the Bible
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  that are
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  well, they just aren't I just say that's not in any manuscripts, that one. It was clearly added
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  after the Reformation by Erasmus, the man that produced the Texas receptus.
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  Unknown: But The whole story about the woman that committed adultery?
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  Unknown: Yeah. And the the witnesses, he he who was left with is without sin cast Oh, for the last stone? Yeah. Yeah. That now it's not that that's not a
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  a valuable story.
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  Matter of fact, it teaches important lesson. It teaches important lesson about Jesus Christ attitude
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  toward the law of evidence. A really important question.
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  And
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  but I I mean, I've looked at the man you can go to the Internet now and just look at the manuscripts.
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  I've looked at them. It's not there.
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  It was put in the margin of one manuscript,
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  and Rasmus said, well, I'll put it in the Texas receptus if somebody can show me a manuscript that's got it. He'd already published the Textus, what can be called the Textus Receptus once.
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  And then
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  in in the German Bible, for example, Martin Luther's translation, the popular one, is not there because it wasn't in any manuscripts.
• 2:00:44
  A lot of and a lot of language translations are not there. The Textus Receptus, it crept in for the second edition
• 2:00:52
  because Rasmus,
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  he was the Roman priest that produced it. He said, hey, if anybody can show me that it's there.
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  And
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  long ugly story about that. And also well, those are the two twelve verses. There were other little variations in different places. But
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  the the ending of Mark is where they talk about the
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  picking up of snakes,
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  rattlers, in our case. Being Americans, rattlers are the big thing.
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  And that
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  is so highly questionably part of the new it's not part of the New Testament. That's my conclusion.
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  Now in our translation, I conclude it at the end
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  in smaller type and set it apart because it's so well known in our culture.
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  I don't want to take it out,
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  but
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  it's not there. Well, they take why is it that people
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  there's something that throughout another why is the people take an obscure part of the Bible that's questionable
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  and build their whole religious point of view on that?
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  For example, the Mormons take an obscure passage out of the Paul's epistle to the one of the epistles to the Corinthians,
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  where there's a phrase in there about baptism for the dead.
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  And not only is it dubious what that could possibly mean,
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  doesn't square with any the way they take it, it doesn't square with any other doctrine in the Bible. It runs straight up against it.
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  And
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  the Mormons have made that the foundation of their religious point of view.
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  And so they spend a lot of time
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  telling people you need to get baptized for your dead ancestors, of course, where there are millions of them.
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  It's kind of a
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  it's not in the Bible. It's like a doctrine like purgatory. It's not in the Bible, but it becomes the central. See? It becomes one of the central points, the thing that's obscured Yeah. The pillar.
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  Unknown: That's not supportable. Yeah. And picking up snakes is one of those kind of things. And, yeah, they do that in Appalachia and certain places. I I'm I'm supposing everyone in the audience has has heard about that or at least seen videos of it. I've seen videos of it on TV with them lifting that thing up and it's and passing it around and some occasionally, they get bit.
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  Unknown: Oh, man. No. They get bit and they die. Or they get maimed or whatever, get bit in the face and they lose their eyesight and So Probably don't do that. Mhmm. No. And the Bible doesn't teach us to do that. That's the point I'm making. The evidence. So all kind everything in life comes back to evidence. When I said a while ago, well, I saw a
• 2:03:23
  of him climbing a pole, and Roger, you made the point, and I'm over 70. Matter of fact, Finnegan, he was a
• 2:03:30
  man that was in very good physical condition for his age.
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  I don't know if he was quite 70 at that time, but he was up there, around close to that or around it.
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  And
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  yeah, I just saw the video. It's a matter of evidence. I saw it. Is the evidence reliable?
• 2:03:46
  Well, you can put anything on the Internet, but when I saw that, it was before AI.
• 2:03:50
  I remember that. And he made a comment about, I'm tired, just tired of them doing this to us. Well, I don't I was tired of it too.
• 2:03:59
  Well, Hannah, my point about that is don't antagonize.
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  If you think it's questionable, don't antagonize
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  people that are dangerous
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  any more than you would a rattlesnake.
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  Because if you do,
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  they're gonna get your number, and they're gonna use the power and the money and the force they have against you. And I say that as a matter of a guy that's defending people in the courts. And it's pertinent always the same.
• 2:04:28
  There's something about somebody that stood out from the crowd, and they went after him called selective prosecution.
• 2:04:35
  Oh, that that's that doesn't fly with the courts too much anymore either, by the way. So in the midst of all this madness, if there's anybody listening,
• 2:04:43
  the object is you gotta protect yourself
• 2:04:46
  because the powers that be have power and often more often than not, they don't feel like they have to follow what the law says.
• 2:04:53
  You know, one of the things that people said to me over the years, they come in and I had to I just have part of learning the how it works.
• 2:05:01
  They'd they'd come in, tell me their story,
• 2:05:04
  then they did it, and they'd say, but
• 2:05:06
  the government they can't do that.
• 2:05:09
  Yeah. They can't do that. And
• 2:05:11
  I'd say, now wait, let's relax for a minute, and let's chill out. Oh, okay. They just did that.
• 2:05:18
  You just told me the story that they did what you now say they can't do. No, they did. I learned that when I was in school back when we had pencil sharpeners and not computers and we could say, raise your hand and teacher say, yes, Brent.
• 2:05:33
  Can I sharpen my pencil?
• 2:05:36
  And missus Mills would say, now, Brent,
• 2:05:39
  there's a difference between can I and may I? Yeah. I remember that one. Yeah. You remember that? That was well known in our general yeah. May I Just don't think about it occasionally. Hear somebody say something, and that'll it'll trigger that. Go ahead. Yeah. May I sharpen my pencil?
• 2:05:55
  She said you should yeah. Should you say,
• 2:05:58
  can you? And she yeah. She the teachers would say, well, I don't know. Can you? Sure you can. Yeah. Right. But the question you're asking me is, are you gonna am I going to allow you? May I?
• 2:06:08
  And so she tried to teach us to say, may I sharpen my pencil? Mhmm. You know, and I've told that whole story and I forgot what illustration I was going on. I don't but May and Shao, that's a famous little league. Oh, that was what it was. Yeah. Can is has has to do with ability.
• 2:06:27
  Power.
• 2:06:28
  Do I have the potential power to do this? And the answer is yes.
• 2:06:33
  And that's the way it is with the government. They have the potential power to do things and because they're imperfect,
• 2:06:38
  they're not they're nothing good about men, period. Then
• 2:06:43
  if there's nothing that Jesus Christ said that,
• 2:06:46
  none of us are what we call good, where some of us are right headed and some of us aren't.
• 2:06:51
  That's what it really boils down to. And the ones that are wrong headed are dangerous.
• 2:06:56
  They're going the wrong way and they'll get you.
• 2:07:00
  Testify to that just like I testify about rattlesnakes and and hogs and cattle bereaved of their young or raccoons. They're all dangerous. You know? You don't get between them and whatever is bothering them.
• 2:07:12
  A a moose Oh, Brent. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. What's that? I don't know if Paul sent it to you or not.
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  Unknown: Uh-huh. But
• 2:07:22
  he has found through our other Paul English.
• 2:07:26
  Uh-huh. Found a website
• 2:07:29
  where they're taking all of Rudyard Kipling's poems.
• 2:07:33
  Uh-huh. And putting them to AI music videos.
• 2:07:38
  Uh-huh.
• 2:07:39
  And the one on the female of the species
• 2:07:43
  Uh-huh. Is very well done. It Paul has not sent it to you. Did you did you you saw it? Yes. I've got it. I'm gonna send it to you. Paul sent a link to you? Yeah.
• 2:07:54
  Oh. And I don't want him taking the time to send it to you. I'll send it to you, Paul. You go back. We got people. We got got
• 2:08:00
  folks on the air here asking where when you leaving? When you leaving? What's going on? So, anyway, don't I'll deal with that. I'll get it to Brent, but it's very well done, I thought. Wait. People are asking go
• 2:08:13
  Unknown: ahead. Somebody said something. Go ahead. Yes. Who was that?
• 2:08:17
  Unknown: It's Doug.
• 2:08:18
  Doug.
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  Doug the thug.
• 2:08:23
  Unknown: Three days a day. What an honor. Go ahead, sir.
• 2:08:26
  Unknown: Yeah. I'm vacationing
• 2:08:28
  in my house.
• 2:08:30
  The
• 2:08:31
  so when you
• 2:08:33
  talk about the can I may I push that rang a bell with me?
• 2:08:40
  I once
• 2:08:41
  had a
• 2:08:43
  it was a guy who was an instructor
• 2:08:48
  for
• 2:08:48
  Dale Carnegie.
• 2:08:51
  And he
• 2:08:53
  well, he he was a communicator.
• 2:08:56
  There was many classes.
• 2:08:59
  Maybe a week or two, he was there visiting in the school I was going to. So one of the things his
• 2:09:06
  well, one of the things he addressed
• 2:09:09
  was
• 2:09:11
  people using the statement, you know,
• 2:09:14
  you know, you know. So
• 2:09:17
  so
• 2:09:18
  what he was
• 2:09:20
  doing was breaking people out of that habit Like? Of shame.
• 2:09:26
  Pardon me?
• 2:09:29
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 2:09:31
  Yeah. Same
• 2:09:32
  thing. And so Just commenting. Go ahead, Doug. Thank you.
• 2:09:37
  Unknown: So
• 2:09:41
  he would would be a class. So he would be
• 2:09:46
  teaching,
• 2:09:47
  and then he'd call on someone or whatever.
• 2:09:50
  I don't remember. This was back in the
• 2:09:53
  seventies.
• 2:09:54
  But he would say
• 2:09:56
  he he'd open it up. You got any questions
• 2:09:59
  or comments?
• 2:10:01
  And
• 2:10:02
  so as soon as you would use the words, well, you know,
• 2:10:07
  he'd stop you immediately go, no. I don't.
• 2:10:12
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 2:10:13
  Unknown: Yeah. And so that that
• 2:10:15
  that broke that. On another note,
• 2:10:19
  about a week ago,
• 2:10:22
  yeah, I have been coming on more talking
• 2:10:26
  on the the live
• 2:10:28
  this thing
• 2:10:30
  and afterwards.
• 2:10:31
  And I was
• 2:10:33
  extemporaneously
• 2:10:36
  speaking
• 2:10:37
  the name Amalek, and the history of Amalek came
• 2:10:41
  up in my mind.
• 2:10:43
  Yeah. So
• 2:10:45
  and then I'm sure you do this, Brent. Many of us do
• 2:10:50
  as a
• 2:10:51
  someone who guards
• 2:10:53
  the scriptures
• 2:10:55
  and truth,
• 2:10:56
  and I was
• 2:10:58
  reexamining
• 2:11:00
  what I had said.
• 2:11:02
  And and I was I realized I was a little foggy
• 2:11:05
  on this character
• 2:11:07
  named Amalek.
• 2:11:10
  So
• 2:11:11
  I open up my bible. I open up my
• 2:11:16
  Strong's Concordance.
• 2:11:17
  I get out my eight and a half by 11
• 2:11:20
  notepad, and I start writing,
• 2:11:23
  making note. Because I
• 2:11:26
  want I don't wanna be foggy
• 2:11:28
  in these topics.
• 2:11:31
  So
• 2:11:33
  there's
• 2:11:34
  a thread
• 2:11:37
  of a topic that's been spoken about today,
• 2:11:41
  which has to do with
• 2:11:43
  the
• 2:11:44
  the people
• 2:11:46
  or the entity
• 2:11:48
  which is the cause of
• 2:11:51
  the evil going on, the the
• 2:11:54
  kill,
• 2:11:55
  steal, and destroy.
• 2:11:57
  You know, steal, kill, and destroy people.
• 2:12:00
  And
• 2:12:01
  so it brought me to
• 2:12:04
  Genesis 36.
• 2:12:06
  The opening verse is and this is a well, it'll be self explanatory.
• 2:12:11
  It says, now these are the generations
• 2:12:14
  of Esau,
• 2:12:17
  comma,
• 2:12:18
  who is Edom.
• 2:12:21
  Okay?
• 2:12:23
  And then it goes through
• 2:12:26
  a
• 2:12:27
  that condensed
• 2:12:31
  categorization
• 2:12:32
  of
• 2:12:34
  his wives that he married.
• 2:12:37
  Mhmm. And
• 2:12:39
  and
• 2:12:41
  and so that takes eight verses, and then at the eighth verse,
• 2:12:46
  it says,
• 2:12:47
  thus dwelt
• 2:12:49
  Esau
• 2:12:50
  in Mount Seer,
• 2:12:52
  and then it repeat, Esau
• 2:12:54
  is
• 2:12:55
  Edom.
• 2:12:57
  So
• 2:12:59
  so now I'm remembering.
• 2:13:01
  Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right. Esau is Edom.
• 2:13:04
  So now I'm okay. So where's Amalek and all this? Mhmm. Well, anyway, I won't go into it, but but
• 2:13:12
  the
• 2:13:13
  first wife that
• 2:13:15
  Esau married
• 2:13:16
  was a a
• 2:13:18
  a Hittite.
• 2:13:20
  Mhmm. And we know
• 2:13:22
  that the
• 2:13:23
  I don't know if these were nations or tribes
• 2:13:26
  that
• 2:13:29
  the heavenly father condemned
• 2:13:31
  and Hittites were one of them. So
• 2:13:35
  after this,
• 2:13:36
  the generalization,
• 2:13:38
  then it starts going in and it starts with
• 2:13:41
  these are the names of Esau's sons and now it starts
• 2:13:45
  actually
• 2:13:46
  giving more detail.
• 2:13:48
  One of the interesting things
• 2:13:51
  I know we've spoken about, when I say we, I mean, collectively,
• 2:13:58
  how
• 2:13:59
  the Jews
• 2:14:02
  use the female as
• 2:14:05
  the
• 2:14:06
  the the
• 2:14:08
  gender
• 2:14:10
  from which
• 2:14:13
  they pay attention or or gives the
• 2:14:16
  the progeny
• 2:14:19
  validation.
• 2:14:20
  And that's what this does. Genesis 36.
• 2:14:23
  It it's all it's all about the daughters, the wives, all this stuff.
• 2:14:28
  And so
• 2:14:30
  so there's
• 2:14:32
  in this,
• 2:14:33
  as it starts toying, talking about these are the generations of Esau, the father of the Edomites
• 2:14:40
  in Mount Seir.
• 2:14:42
  So it starts from the first son, second son, etcetera.
• 2:14:47
  And there's
• 2:14:48
  Amalek,
• 2:14:50
  and there's
• 2:14:51
  Kannaz also.
• 2:14:54
  So,
• 2:14:55
  you know, from which we get the Kannazi, I would assume.
• 2:14:59
  You know, I thought that was interesting.
• 2:15:01
  These are the enemies,
• 2:15:04
  the people that
• 2:15:05
  the heavenly father hate.
• 2:15:08
  And
• 2:15:09
  we we see
• 2:15:10
  how the roles have been reversed,
• 2:15:13
  how Israel
• 2:15:15
  who is
• 2:15:16
  Edom, who is Amalek,
• 2:15:21
  they're they reversed the roles where now they're they're going after Amalek. It's just it's a
• 2:15:30
  well, I'm sure Eli James' book,
• 2:15:34
  the the great impersonation,
• 2:15:36
  covers that. So, anyway, I thought I'd throw that in there.
• 2:15:41
  Unknown: Well, then the fact that that's who never
• 2:15:44
  Netanyahu's
• 2:15:44
  always calling
• 2:15:46
  the
• 2:15:47
  Arabs, did they tell you that's who they are?
• 2:15:53
  Unknown: Yeah. Me. Alternative.
• 2:15:54
  It could be anybody.
• 2:15:56
  It could be anybody that that they
• 2:16:00
  want to label
• 2:16:02
  enemy
• 2:16:03
  terrorists,
• 2:16:04
  the worst people. Yeah. Yeah. That's so it's a reversal.
• 2:16:08
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. Well, it's they always do. Everything's an opposite.
• 2:16:12
  Brent, I don't know about you. My stomach's getting a little antsy here, but I've gone over a bit. I didn't know you were there lurking.
• 2:16:20
  So you
• 2:16:22
  got to see how I would handle the show without you, my friend. It's
• 2:16:27
  not anywhere near as colorful.
• 2:16:29
  So thanks for jumping forward.
• 2:16:32
  Let's see. What else did I wanna you you know congress is out till middle of November?
• 2:16:39
  Unknown: No. I didn't pay attention.
• 2:16:41
  Unknown: Well, not the senate, the house.
• 2:16:44
  Oh. The house is out until the middle of November.
• 2:16:48
  Unknown: Oh, wow. That's a long time. Well, they're gonna Sure is. Well, they're gonna go campaign.
• 2:16:53
  Unknown: That's why. Well, yeah. That's that's of course it with the. Yeah. Now, otherwise, it's just like insanity as usual, my friend.
• 2:17:01
  So, thanks for joining us. We always look forward to it and I hope you have a good week.
• 2:17:07
  Thank you. You too. Yeah. Don't know. You can catch Brandy. Does this a church
• 2:17:12
  service on Sunday?
• 2:17:14
  If you don't have a church home and then he's on opposite us tomorrow
• 2:17:18
  with his normal Saturday thing.
• 2:17:20
  We're always happy to spend time with him. And if you need to find out anything more,
• 2:17:26
  go over to commonlawyer.com.
• 2:17:28
  Unknown: Mhmm. They don't have all that.
• 2:17:31
  Unknown: You can find out more than you wanna know. Yeah. That's true.
• 2:17:35
  Yeah. Alright, buddy. Well, listen. We'll see you next week. Thank you.
• 2:17:39
  Else, party, you wanna say?
• 2:17:41
  Unknown: No. No. Just thank you for those that can ask talk talk and make comments and ask questions and
• 2:17:49
  all that. Well, I'm that's what that's what I'm trying to I'm getting tired of talking, Roger. If I if people like
• 2:17:56
  Joe talked, Larry didn't talk today,
• 2:17:59
  Paul talked, and you talk.
• 2:18:01
  Unknown: I think it's people like change in cadence of voice and Well, that's true. I I need a break too. You can't just sit here for hours and do this stuff. Yeah. That's why I try and insist on the communications
• 2:18:16
  conversation
• 2:18:17
  aspect of it. Mhmm. Mhmm. But after a while and people don't know that have never done radio, you're totally focusing on what we're doing.
• 2:18:26
  I mean, generally, like a laser beam.
• 2:18:29
  And so after after a while, that is really is work whether you see it as that or not. It's draining on you.
• 2:18:35
  Unknown: Well, I was taught when I was young that an hour
• 2:18:38
  in front of a crowd talking
• 2:18:41
  or a group, just a group, not a crowd, but big or small, if you're really putting your mind into it, the expend the amount of energy expended is easily equivalent to eight hours of hard labor. Yeah. And if you spend two hours and if you put your soul and mind into it and I really believe about what you're doing, it it can two hours will drain you. I I can tell you for sure. I promise you. And that's where I am. That's why after two hours, I you know, I love the after show. I'd like to hang around, but I'm about to spend. You know? You're not your people are sucking out of sucking energy out of you. Yeah. Yeah. Very true. Yeah. That's true. So anyway, well, you can do it again tomorrow. If you like it, come back. You can do it again tomorrow over with Brent whenever you want, and, buddy, we'll look for you next week. And, hopefully,
• 2:19:28
  Unknown: the world will end. Join now and then.
• 2:19:31
  Unknown: Mhmm. Thank you, Roger. Alright. Always a pleasure, buddy. See you. See you. Bye.
• 2:20:06
  I had a question.
• 2:20:09
  Oh, go ahead. I was just getting ready to click off.
• 2:20:13
  Oh,
• 2:20:15
  Unknown: your name came up as someone who might help with the idea of a common law abatement,
• 2:20:20
  like per Melvin Stamper.
• 2:20:22
  I didn't know if that was a way to avoid this rattlesnake
• 2:20:25
  persecutors.
• 2:20:27
  Unknown: Accuser of Satan that you talk about. A common law what?
• 2:20:31
  Abatement.
• 2:20:33
  Oh, abatement. Abatement.
• 2:20:35
  Well,
• 2:20:37
  that's a more
• 2:20:39
  complex question the patriot community would lead you to believe, what it comes down to is,
• 2:20:45
  is it all true? Is it all available? Yeah. It depends upon how you apply it,
• 2:20:49
  but it's it's up to the court. It's up to the judge. It's a matter of law. It's a matter for the jury as much as the judge in most of those cases.
• 2:20:58
  And if
• 2:20:59
  you're if you think abatement is an issue in your case, whatever case it is,
• 2:21:05
  then you can
• 2:21:07
  possibly use it. But if you're gonna use abatement, if you're gonna go into the courts,
• 2:21:11
  you don't need some statute. You need a lot of cases that uphold what you're talking about. Remember the courts in our common law tradition follow the courts. They don't follow the legislature.
• 2:21:22
  If that's the unless they want to. If they wanna agree with it, fine.
• 2:21:26
  But if they don't, they won't. And so you need cases. Just what
• 2:21:30
  research you can do now on the Internet, you don't even need a a law library anymore.
• 2:21:35
  It's just getting better all the time, and you can type in abatement and get more in your state and write in your state and only the courts of your state and type in the question you want,
• 2:21:47
  and you can go not only good idea. Yeah. Go to AI.
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  That's not always reliable, but you can go to other sites that are law sites, like Cornell University Law School and a lot of others.
• 2:21:59
  They'll give you some pretty straight information,
• 2:22:02
  and then you can read the cases on yourself,
• 2:22:05
  which you're responsible to do anyway, and make sure that they're not lying to you about what the cases say.
• 2:22:11
  It's all it's all available, but what state are you in?
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  Idaho.
• 2:22:17
  Oh, well, are you up north or down south, or where are you?
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  Unknown: North.
• 2:22:24
  Unknown: Alright. Is this somebody I've talked to before on this outlet?
• 2:22:28
  Unknown: Yes. Yeah. I'm I'm actually right near the
• 2:22:33
  Idaho
• 2:22:34
  College of Law, actually, the U of I College of Law.
• 2:22:37
  Unknown: Oh, near Pullman in Moscow in there.
• 2:22:40
  Unknown: There you go. Palouse.
• 2:22:42
  Unknown: The Palouse. Yeah. I know that. But, anyway, you but you haven't called in and talked to us before, have you?
• 2:22:50
  Unknown: I've oh, yeah. I call in all time, but I not necessarily yourself on Fridays just because,
• 2:22:58
  you know, I didn't have a law matter really, but or a religious matter, but there's religious abatements too that the Christian journal societies have tried, but I don't know how successful those were. Not to make it complicated, but abatement just means to reduce.
• 2:23:12
  Unknown: Reduce fine,
• 2:23:14
  reduce penalty,
• 2:23:16
  reduce a tax. It it's it's a general catch all kind of word. Are you
• 2:23:22
  so you're from that area. Is that right?
• 2:23:28
  Unknown: I'm a nay I'm a native Idahoan.
• 2:23:31
  Unknown: But you didn't grow up You know why there's You didn't grow up around the that realm we are now, you're saying? No. I grew now. A transplant.
• 2:23:40
  Unknown: No. I yes. I did. I grew up south of the Mason Dixon Line, actually.
• 2:23:44
  Unknown: Oh, I see.
• 2:23:46
  Well, what what brought you to that area
• 2:23:49
  of Idaho?
• 2:23:50
  Unknown: Family.
• 2:23:51
  Family was out here.
• 2:23:53
  Unknown: You didn't go there for religious reasons?
• 2:23:59
  Unknown: Somewhat.
• 2:24:00
  Somewhat, you could say. Yeah. Presbyterian religious reasons, probably. Yeah. That's a good point. So you go to church in Moscow?
• 2:24:07
  I do. I'm a I attend mass there. Yep.
• 2:24:10
  Unknown: So you're a Roman Catholic?
• 2:24:15
  Unknown: I am. And part of my appeal was gonna actually be to the Vatican because I understand that they're in charge of a lot of the law
• 2:24:21
  It's still
• 2:24:22
  Unknown: Well, I thought you I thought you said a while ago the word Presbyterian.
• 2:24:28
  Unknown: I did.
• 2:24:29
  Unknown: Oh, so I thought Part of my part of my family, yeah, part of my family is
• 2:24:35
  practicing Presbyterians.
• 2:24:36
  Yep.
• 2:24:37
  Unknown: Well, you can be a practicing Presbyterian
• 2:24:39
  around there in Moscow, can't you?
• 2:24:43
  Unknown: Oh, you could. Yep.
• 2:24:45
  Unknown: I've heard of it. There's a famous Presbyterian church there that's nationwide famous.
• 2:24:51
  Unknown: It is. In fact, Pete Hegseth is part of that deal, I guess.
• 2:24:55
  Unknown: Oh, that's what I I've read on the Internet.
• 2:24:58
  Well, I mean yeah. And so they're they they've begun to plant in Presbyterian churches all over the country is what I've heard. Is that right?
• 2:25:07
  Unknown: Yes.
• 2:25:08
  World, really. They got missions in Zambia and Ukraine and Brazil.
• 2:25:14
  Unknown: Do you go to that church?
• 2:25:16
  Unknown: I do not attend there now. No.
• 2:25:19
  Unknown: But but you're you attend mass now? Is that what you're saying?
• 2:25:24
  Unknown: Yes. I grew up
• 2:25:25
  I was my whole heritage has always been
• 2:25:28
  Roman Catholic, so I was like, who am I to change that that bloodline?
• 2:25:33
  Unknown: Well, if you but those Presbyterians will explain all that to you, won't they?
• 2:25:38
  Unknown: Oh oh, they do. They have, yeah, they have their they have their
• 2:25:43
  they have their
• 2:25:44
  Unknown: hermeneutics, I guess,
• 2:25:46
  Unknown: we'd call it.
• 2:25:48
  Unknown: Now what does that mean, hermeneutics?
• 2:25:57
  Did I lose you?
• 2:26:02
  Unknown: Hello? Sorry. I missed that. Yeah. Missed that. I was another call. You said Herman who? You said something about Herman? Something about hermeneutics, I think. Like, theology. They're really into, like I think they're called old testamentarians
• 2:26:14
  a lot of times, the Presbyterians.
• 2:26:16
  Unknown: How long have you lived around there? I mean, you've been around these folk a lot. You know quite a bit about them.
• 2:26:22
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. No. I I I've been around a while. How long have you been around Presbyterianism?
• 2:26:27
  Unknown: Well, all my life and off and on. But what I mean to say is
• 2:26:31
  that particular brand of Presbyterian there is pretty radical, ain't it? Pretty aggressive.
• 2:26:38
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. They're they're definitely what would be called Christian nationalists, I guess, here.
• 2:26:43
  Unknown: Yeah. That doesn't appeal to you?
• 2:26:46
  Unknown: I'm not sure. I'm not sure about Christian nationalism
• 2:26:50
  as it's
• 2:26:52
  yeah. It's difficult because I think,
• 2:26:55
  in one sense, the country was the first experiment
• 2:26:58
  to to allow all religions, which, of course, included
• 2:27:02
  or I guess it was interpreted later to include Muslims, Jews,
• 2:27:06
  Unknown: etcetera. So, yeah, that's that's a whole interesting story about whether
• 2:27:11
  Unknown: and I don't and back back on the conquests and everything, everything was originally, you know, Saint Saint Augustine and all the missions out west and everything pretty much was all all Catholic. So it's, yeah, it's a it's a hard question. I mean, if you go to Oxford, my
• 2:27:24
  parish
• 2:27:25
  vicar, he's got a
• 2:27:27
  he's got PhD from Oxford. He looks up there and sees the buildings are off in, like, 12/17,
• 2:27:32
  or whatever, way before the, you know, king Henry the eighth took over the churches and made the altars into stairs
• 2:27:40
  to the churches. I mean, I'm I've read Kramer's revolution
• 2:27:44
  Uh-huh.
• 2:27:45
  And everything into Vatican too, kind of the subterfuge that's happened. But
• 2:27:50
  Unknown: Okay. So you you looked in. Well, no. None of us know everything, but you've looked into it. So you've made your choice, and you're gonna follow the pope and not not anything
• 2:27:59
  else. Is that your choice?
• 2:28:02
  Unknown: Well,
• 2:28:03
  pope is he is the the
• 2:28:07
  pontiff of the church, but he does not speak in perfection. You know? Obviously, there's the holy holy scripture,
• 2:28:15
  and there's the magisterium.
• 2:28:17
  Mhmm. So there's much more
• 2:28:19
  than,
• 2:28:21
  you know, just a single pope.
• 2:28:23
  Unknown: So Well, isn't that the official doctrine of Rome that the pope does speak perfectly?
• 2:28:29
  Unknown: No. No. The pope
• 2:28:31
  speaks in ex cathedral,
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  and
• 2:28:35
  Unknown: I think
• 2:28:37
  Unknown: it's only been one time, maybe with regard to Mary.
• 2:28:41
  Unknown: I'd have to check it, but So ex what isn't ex cathedral? It doesn't that mean that when he speaks
• 2:28:48
  from the chair, from the throne, from his position, that he's preserved from all error, isn't that the official doctrine?
• 2:28:56
  That's not your understanding? No.
• 2:28:58
  Unknown: It's gotta be within the context of the magisterium and the scriptures. So
• 2:29:03
  yeah. But he Just what he does have an opinion on, you know, like this boat, for example, he has an opinion on appointing a bishop that believes in,
• 2:29:12
  you know, welcoming all to whatever.
• 2:29:15
  It doesn't necessarily mean that that's, you know, scriptural or the magisterium of the the magisterium covers way, you know, right from the initial
• 2:29:27
  practices of the faith, you know. So So which is which Which is the
• 2:29:32
  Unknown: final authority then? The Bible or the Pope?
• 2:29:41
  Which is the final authority? Yeah. When there's a apparent
• 2:29:44
  disagreement between the two, for example, you mentioned the word a while ago, you said the Pope is the pontiff of the church. Well, if the Bible says, and the Bible doesn't
• 2:29:56
  doesn't authorize that, clearly, that's easy,
• 2:29:59
  who's right? The Pope or the Bible?
• 2:30:06
  Unknown: Pope has to pass everything that the pope says has to line up with the magisterium and the scripture. So
• 2:30:12
  this is kind of the this is the problem with sola
• 2:30:16
  scriptura
• 2:30:17
  Uh-huh. Is that, you know, everybody gets to be their own interpreter.
• 2:30:21
  And that's the that's the huge part. Anybody can open up I can open up a church here as I pull into a little strip
• 2:30:28
  mall here, and I can call myself
• 2:30:30
  Gio's,
• 2:30:30
  you know, redemption
• 2:30:32
  block or whatever, and I can preach the Bible and all that stuff. And but,
• 2:30:37
  you know, you know what I'm saying? It's it's very skismatic, and that's weakened us, I think, as a it's weakened us as nation as nations and races, you know, as as misdemeanors. So So you're
• 2:30:48
  Unknown: I appreciate you taking time to
• 2:30:51
  allow me to talk to you. And the more you talk, the more it becomes abundantly apparent
• 2:30:57
  that you're educated formally in these matters.
• 2:31:06
  Unknown: I'm a I'm just a
• 2:31:08
  I'm a armchair
• 2:31:10
  formation.
• 2:31:11
  I'm constantly being formed, I guess.
• 2:31:14
  I don't I don't know I don't know everything. It's for sure. Well But I do I go deeper than I go deeper than just saying, hey, here's a bible, you know, trust God and you're saved, you know. It's Mhmm.
• 2:31:27
  Well, anybody that I think I think that's the problem that we that we got to, you know, that we have these
• 2:31:33
  you know, I had a buddy who was flying these
• 2:31:37
  preachers around. He said it was unbelievable. And I'm not saying it doesn't happen within the church either. Trust me. But Mhmm. You know, he says it was unbelievable what he saw with these these preachers and going into their big big venues
• 2:31:48
  and cash they're making. They're flying around the Learjets.
• 2:31:51
  Some, I guess, that we discovered the Netanyahu gave, but I don't know. I could be wrong. I just read it on the Internet.
• 2:31:57
  Unknown: Well, I've never talked to a Roman Catholic,
• 2:32:01
  a Romanist,
• 2:32:02
  or anybody else who could throw around words like sola scriptura and hermeneutics and then explain them to me, and you have.
• 2:32:11
  That's not that's not normal.
• 2:32:13
  And that's good. Thank you. I think it's a it's a good thing. You know? And so whatever the case
• 2:32:17
  but but what amazes me is I'm just asking questions. I'm a little bit amazed. It's it's I can't I can't
• 2:32:26
  imagine somebody not having been steeped
• 2:32:29
  into reformed theology,
• 2:32:31
  which is what Presbyterianism
• 2:32:33
  is,
• 2:32:34
  and
• 2:32:35
  and choosing Rome
• 2:32:38
  over the Bible. And you say that what the Pope says has to line up, but clearly,
• 2:32:43
  by the thousands upon thousands of times, it doesn't line up.
• 2:32:48
  Through the centuries, the popes
• 2:32:50
  speak ex cathedra,
• 2:32:52
  all sorts of insane
• 2:32:54
  things and still do. For example for example,
• 2:32:59
  I would I ask you, and you're kind enough to
• 2:33:02
  talk about it, and that's what is interesting
• 2:33:05
  and what we're doing here, and that's helpful. That's why I want other people to talk.
• 2:33:10
  But do you accept the perpetual virginity of Mary?
• 2:33:20
  Unknown: I do in the sense that there needed to be a perfect vessel for god.
• 2:33:24
  So I think it lines up with I think it lines up with the scriptures even though it's not expressly
• 2:33:30
  stated in there. She is a woman of grace, David.
• 2:33:33
  So.
• 2:33:35
  Unknown: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
• 2:33:37
  Unknown: In fact, we just celebrated her her nativity
• 2:33:41
  the other day. Church has many
• 2:33:45
  still carry many of the
• 2:33:47
  feast days and saints days that the
• 2:33:50
  Vatican two church does not, which is pretty interesting.
• 2:33:54
  Unknown: So And the and the Immaculate Conception, these are fundamental doctrines of Rome. The Immaculate Conception, you you
• 2:34:02
  buy into that one too?
• 2:34:05
  Unknown: Yes.
• 2:34:07
  Unknown: Okay. And then also the finality of the Pope of Rome over all things in heaven and on earth. That's the official doctrine of the church.
• 2:34:17
  You accept that one?
• 2:34:19
  Unknown: In conjunction with the magisterium and the scriptures.
• 2:34:23
  Yes. There have been popes that have been been overturned,
• 2:34:26
  etcetera. So and there's been reforms in the in the in the church as well. Mhmm. So And As long as there's been reforms in I'm sure there's been reforms in many Protestant churches as well. Uh-huh.
• 2:34:38
  Unknown: And so you also then accept that
• 2:34:41
  Peter is the first pope. That's fundamental to Romanism.
• 2:34:48
  Unknown: Correct.
• 2:34:49
  Unknown: And and you accept it in light of there is no evidence in the Bible or out of the Bible that Peter ever was in Rome?
• 2:34:59
  Unknown: I
• 2:35:01
  don't know about the evidence of where Peter went and didn't go, but Christ appointed him as the as the
• 2:35:08
  place where the church would be built at the the Uh-huh.
• 2:35:12
  Unknown: The office of the And you accept then you you the doctrine that says Peter
• 2:35:18
  is the foundation upon which god's organization called the church
• 2:35:22
  is built.
• 2:35:25
  Yes.
• 2:35:27
  And you do that in spite of the scriptures saying that Jesus Christ is the foundation.
• 2:35:34
  Unknown: Well, of course, he's the foundation.
• 2:35:37
  Unknown: Uh-huh.
• 2:35:39
  And Christ
• 2:35:40
  Unknown: Christ, you know, first causes you have to look at. I mean, sin is clear
• 2:35:46
  on first cause.
• 2:35:48
  Unknown: Well, of course, I say that I say that with
• 2:35:52
  full understanding and conviction that Jesus Christ never said that Peter was the foundation of the church. That's ludicrous, and it doesn't say that.
• 2:36:02
  Although it is understood that way, and Rome has promoted the idea very hard. It's contrary to the grammar and the vocabulary clearly
• 2:36:10
  of that particular passage. That's why I say it. But I'm asking you what what your position is, and I don't think I don't think you've come up this flippantly. That's why I'm asking.
• 2:36:20
  And I'm enjoying asking you, and I'm enjoying listening to you. I hope that you see it as an opportunity to say what's on your mind. But so you you're familiar with reformed doctrine,
• 2:36:34
  but you reject that in favor of Romanism.
• 2:36:39
  Unknown: I think there's a, yeah, there's a more perfect way, and that's the
• 2:36:43
  original purpose of the you know, and there's a lot of politics, obviously, in any organization. If you go to the church going back through everything. But if you look at the original
• 2:36:52
  causes of the
• 2:36:54
  I call it the revolution, Protestant revolution,
• 2:36:59
  doesn't square with what we should have kept as kind of a lot of babies got thrown out with bathwater, let's put it that way. But but I was I was really asking you about abatement, but I we could debate. But
• 2:37:10
  bit a bit of abatement is kinda look
• 2:37:13
  at that. And and, you know, to this point, I think you can appeal on temporal matters
• 2:37:17
  to the vicar of Christ. If we're Christians and we call ourselves originally, we just called, you know, Catholics, if you will. But if we're all of that universal faith,
• 2:37:27
  then there should be a point on earth that we also
• 2:37:32
  can appeal to. And this is this is where the reformer came in. He actually wrote to the Holy See,
• 2:37:39
  and he got a call from the attorney general of Great Britain out of New York's office
• 2:37:44
  when he was getting prosecuted over his IMF.
• 2:37:48
  DOJ was bringing all kinds of tax, you know, taxing issues to him. He appealed to the Holy See, and they basically said disregard anything from DOJ.
• 2:37:56
  So what Would you I was like, that might be prima facie, but it's that something bigger is going on than The United States Of America. You Well, then you follow the you follow the doctrine of Rome then that
• 2:38:09
  Unknown: the pope of Rome
• 2:38:13
  has
• 2:38:14
  Trumpian authority
• 2:38:16
  over the authority of The United States.
• 2:38:20
  Unknown: This is what's interesting. I I don't know. You know, I don't I don't know all the ins and outs of it. I mean, I've heard rumors cardinals control stuff, but
• 2:38:29
  I do Well, no. Wait. Wait. Wait. Reading the other day. Let me finish. I was just reading the other day that the guy from Maine found that Pope Francis had told everybody to stand down as far as being
• 2:38:39
  being that there was no more immunity.
• 2:38:42
  And I don't know if that had to do with all the CEOs resigning, but remember all the CEOs resigning kinda in the COVID era?
• 2:38:49
  So I'm like, what is going on? You're talking
• 2:38:52
  Unknown: but you're not responding to the question, but it's all interesting what you're saying. But my question more specifically was,
• 2:38:59
  does the pope have authority over the sovereignty of The United States?
• 2:39:04
  You're you were talking about what people believed and what what they did. Well, I'm not as concerned with that. People have power to do a lot of weird stuff, and they believe a lot of weird stuff. But does the pope of Rome have authority
• 2:39:15
  from God himself
• 2:39:17
  over the over the sovereignty of The United States?
• 2:39:22
  Unknown: Based on the papal bulls and based on the
• 2:39:25
  where like, how King George the third,
• 2:39:28
  his plenty potentiaries signed the peace treaty of, I believe, 1783
• 2:39:33
  with regard to how the assets would be all split up after the revolution.
• 2:39:38
  I would say that and he he signed it as his HRE, Holy Roman Empire, arch treasurer. I would say there's something there. I don't know. I don't have evidence that the pope makes a phone call on the on the football phone and says, by the way, John, over to supreme Scotus,
• 2:39:55
  make sure you rule this way, you know, or by the way, Donald,
• 2:39:58
  Unknown: make sure you, you know, you do this. I don't I don't have that. But no. I'm not asking you what what people do. I'm asking you, does he have that authority from God? Yeah. That's what I'm out to over the sovereignty of The United States. That's what I'm asking.
• 2:40:15
  Unknown: I would say that if there was gonna be a temporal
• 2:40:17
  person in charge, if you will, it would be the pope. It would not be Benjamin Netanyahu,
• 2:40:22
  Unknown: and it wouldn't be, you know, now So your your answer your answer is yes. It sounds like, but you're not coming clear.
• 2:40:30
  Unknown: I don't I don't I don't know. I don't have the I don't have the the knowledge to
• 2:40:35
  Unknown: to speak Let me ask you this. Well, where where are you where's your final allegiance? To the pope of Rome or The United States?
• 2:40:44
  Unknown: I would say that
• 2:40:46
  the
• 2:40:47
  well, that's a good question. I would say that the universal church the universal church
• 2:40:53
  is
• 2:40:54
  is key, but also patriotism
• 2:40:57
  Unknown: is key. We have to be You're not you're not answering. You're waffling. You're waffling. It's one or the other. Planted on our own.
• 2:41:04
  Sovereignty,
• 2:41:05
  Unknown: you're waffling. You're waffling. You're not interested. I would I would say I would say if somebody's doing something against Christ, that that would be that would be against even if it was for The United States, then I would go to Christ. I'm not talking about Christ. I'm talking about the pope of Rome versus The United States.
• 2:41:21
  Unknown: And does the pope of Rome have authority
• 2:41:24
  over the sovereignty of The United States? That's what I'm asking.
• 2:41:29
  Where is your loyalty? I
• 2:41:31
  Unknown: think that he has influence. What is your where is your loyalty? Let me ask you that. Is your loyalty to Christ or to The United States?
• 2:41:38
  Unknown: My loyalty is to Christ, but Christ demands
• 2:41:42
  that my loyalty be to the land that he has given me.
• 2:41:46
  That's the answer. That's the biblical answer to the question.
• 2:41:49
  And anything else is disloyalty.
• 2:41:52
  If you insert the pope, the Bible says there is no mediator,
• 2:41:57
  no go between, no daysman between God and man except
• 2:42:01
  the man Christ Jesus.
• 2:42:03
  The priesthood of Rome Let me ask you this. The priesthood of Rome and Mary and the saints have no business in there, and to put them in there in your mind is blatant.
• 2:42:13
  Blasphemy
• 2:42:14
  and idolatry.
• 2:42:16
  That's what the Bible says.
• 2:42:18
  Clear. But why are there parishes
• 2:42:20
  Unknown: why are there parishes in Louisiana?
• 2:42:23
  Unknown: Well, they cause the people down there wanting them, I reckon. Is that is that an easy answer, or what what am I missing here?
• 2:42:30
  Unknown: Well, I think there is a tie between church and state. I don't think they're I don't think they're
• 2:42:35
  Unknown: divisible. You're you're you're you're you're all over the lot. We're talking about the ultimate question,
• 2:42:41
  ultimate sovereignty. Sovereignty is not divisible.
• 2:42:44
  It's either one or the other.
• 2:42:47
  Who
• 2:42:48
  who demands our loyalty? The pope of Rome
• 2:42:52
  or Jesus Christ?
• 2:42:53
  Period.
• 2:42:55
  And no no in between. And there is no mediator that can be stuck in there with Jesus Christ. The Bible makes that pretty clear.
• 2:43:03
  Unknown: What so that's my point. Yeah. I would say that I would say that Christ is our king, of course.
• 2:43:09
  Unknown: Well, if he's our king, where does he command us to obey some man in Rome who's the head of a large pedophilia ring?
• 2:43:16
  That's to put it bluntly, that's the question. That's been going on. That pedophilia has been going on for centuries.
• 2:43:22
  That's why that's why all the monasteries were eliminated in Britain during the days of Henry the eighth for all the other evil things that happened. That's how they got that done,
• 2:43:32
  because of the sex perversion
• 2:43:33
  and the official report that came out with it. I'm just making a simple point not to get caught up in who's good and who's bad because there are no good men. The Bible says that. Jesus Christ says that. But I'm posing the question,
• 2:43:47
  where does our loyalty ultimately
• 2:43:49
  lay?
• 2:43:51
  To some priesthood?
• 2:43:53
  Some false mediator?
• 2:43:56
  Some
• 2:43:57
  body stuck between me and God, or is it like John Wycliffe said that we worship our God under the open vault of heaven without any mediator? And there was nobody in the world at that time
• 2:44:09
  that was more of a the great more of Romanist
• 2:44:13
  than John Wycliffe,
• 2:44:14
  and nobody who knew more about it, scholasticism of Saint Thomas Aquinas and those kind of fellows
• 2:44:20
  than John Wycliffe. And he denied it all. He said that's silly. It's utterly silly.
• 2:44:26
  The whole thing. Transubstantiation
• 2:44:29
  contrary to the senses and contrary to the Bible itself.
• 2:44:33
  Now I
• 2:44:34
  said that to you because I really believe you know what transubstantiation
• 2:44:37
  is. Is that right?
• 2:44:45
  Unknown: I believe that we have
• 2:44:47
  a responsibility
• 2:44:49
  Unknown: to keep the ministry in our in our faith. Because Do you know? I know. You're a nice guy and you're talking about I wanna know. Do you know? I believe from what you've said that you know what transubstantiation
• 2:45:01
  is. Is that right?
• 2:45:03
  I do. Oh, I thought you might. Hey, listen. You're an amazing man. And it's not you obviously have informed yourself very well. What is it just if you may say, what is it you've done for living all your life?
• 2:45:19
  Unknown: I'm a contractor, I'm working with my hands every day. So I transubstantiate
• 2:45:24
  through my blood and my toil
• 2:45:27
  Uh-huh. The love and to my family and my community
• 2:45:30
  at my church.
• 2:45:32
  Unknown: Yeah. And so you're an ardent
• 2:45:35
  Romanist.
• 2:45:36
  You're are you one of those Romanists like Mel Gibson where, you know, the old Latin mass and all that stuff?
• 2:45:45
  Unknown: The traditional Latin mass is interesting. I did not grow up with that,
• 2:45:50
  but I was an altar boy. I was never abused, but I was an altar boy.
• 2:45:54
  Oh, wow.
• 2:45:55
  And I can tell you that I have a cousin who is a priest. I have a great aunt who is a nun.
• 2:46:03
  I have
• 2:46:06
  a history
• 2:46:07
  with
• 2:46:10
  Catholicism,
• 2:46:10
  but
• 2:46:11
  and that's my question is, could we abate things temporarily?
• 2:46:16
  Is there a temporal office we go to
• 2:46:19
  that Christ
• 2:46:22
  you know, is Christ representing us through democracy kinda? Is that how you think,
• 2:46:27
  Unknown: like, a nation there How long to be a democracy?
• 2:46:30
  I wanna get to your your question is your yeah. Your question is important to me, and I wanna answer that question, but and I I wanna do it here in just a minute. But what is it that
• 2:46:41
  how long have you been listening to the show here before I answer the question? That will help me to know what to say.
• 2:46:47
  Unknown: Stop. Well, I've had national
• 2:46:50
  status
• 2:46:51
  since
• 2:46:53
  probably 2009,
• 2:46:56
  and then I started listening to this show probably three years ago.
• 2:47:00
  Unknown: Okay. So you've heard me run my tater trap quite a bit then. Is that right? I love your stories. That's for sure.
• 2:47:08
  Well, I mean but you get a sense for who I am and what I've said. And then I wanna answer that question because your question,
• 2:47:14
  as we say, it hit the nail you hit the nail with your head.
• 2:47:18
  And you said,
• 2:47:20
  who what you were really asking was, what is final in our country?
• 2:47:24
  Who has the final word? That's what and that's what I've been asking you. Who has the final word?
• 2:47:29
  And the answer the answer is available
• 2:47:33
  without
• 2:47:34
  first, it's good just to make the contrast.
• 2:47:37
  Does the supreme court have the of The United States have the final word in America
• 2:47:41
  on how law is to be applied and understood? And the answer is no. Never was.
• 2:47:47
  What about the president of The United States? No. He's not final either. What about the congress of the United States? No. Congress isn't final either.
• 2:47:55
  Well, if there's only three branches of government, then
• 2:47:58
  how does our government operate if nothing's final? That's the that's the great wisdom of our common law tradition. It's opposite
• 2:48:05
  of Rome.
• 2:48:07
  It's opposite of the Roman system that governs the whole world.
• 2:48:11
  The greatest vehicle of the propagation of evil men's law, the canon civil laws of Rome, is today the Roman church. But the code of Justinian, which is the canon laws of the Roman church, the code of the Roman emperor Justinian governs every country in our world today, except the handful of common law countries. And that government is a government of a single will. The Roman system is a government of a single will. In the case of the ecclesiastic
• 2:48:38
  case, that'd be the Pope.
• 2:48:40
  There are a lot of so called Protestant churches that way too, and that's the very definition of Antichrist. When John Knox of Scotland preached his first sermon at Saint Andrew's Castle when he was trapped there by the French fleet,
• 2:48:52
  he preached it on
• 2:48:55
  John the Apostle's use of the word antichristus
• 2:48:58
  in the Greek New Testament.
• 2:48:59
  And he concluded correctly, and this is blatantly obvious,
• 2:49:03
  antichrist means
• 2:49:05
  one
• 2:49:06
  who is
• 2:49:09
  not
• 2:49:11
  against Christ on the surface,
• 2:49:14
  but one who says, I'm here to help Jesus Christ. I'm on Jesus Christ's side. I'm the right hand of Jesus Christ. I'm the one that Jesus Christ has given authority to in this bailiwick, whether it be the Roman church or a charismatic church, a Baptist church, a one man rule situation.
• 2:49:32
  And John Knox says that's antichrist, and that's why the Presbyterianism.
• 2:49:36
  It began in Scotland, and they called it Presbyterianism
• 2:49:40
  because
• 2:49:41
  presbytos
• 2:49:42
  is the word from the Greek New Testament that means
• 2:49:46
  plurality, presbytoi,
• 2:49:48
  plurality
• 2:49:49
  of rulers,
• 2:49:50
  plurality
• 2:49:51
  plurality
• 2:49:53
  of elders.
• 2:49:55
  And the whole distinction
• 2:49:57
  fundamentally
• 2:49:58
  between Presbyterianism
• 2:50:00
  and all the Roman system, which includes Anglicanism,
• 2:50:03
  a lot of Baptist churches, lot of Charismatic churches, the Lutheran churches, you got one man running everything.
• 2:50:10
  And God will not permit that among mankind.
• 2:50:13
  And our government here in America is a common law government of three co equal branches.
• 2:50:19
  Neither one of the branches, the president, the executive, the congress, the legislative branch, the courts, the supreme court at the top, and the federal courts,
• 2:50:28
  neither one of those has Trumpian power over the other one unless they wanna agree.
• 2:50:33
  And the rest of the world can't understand how our how our government runs when nobody's
• 2:50:39
  finally in charge.
• 2:50:41
  And that's an important study in the Bible too, but it's biblical.
• 2:50:45
  God will not tolerate you can see the examples in the Bible. He will not tolerate a government by a single will, whether it be a will of one man or the combined many
• 2:50:55
  men combining their will into one as final legislation on anything.
• 2:50:59
  That's what Rome is. That's what a lot of other religious organizations are, including Islam.
• 2:51:04
  And God will destroy a people, utterly destroy a people that persist in doing that. It's gonna happen. That's the horror of Babylon.
• 2:51:14
  And that's why John the Apostle and John Knox said this, John Knox of Scotland said,
• 2:51:19
  there are many antichrist among us, quoting
• 2:51:22
  John in first John. Many antichrist.
• 2:51:26
  And it's
• 2:51:27
  our job to stand force where against that
• 2:51:30
  and say, no. That's not right. We're we're not gonna go along with that. It's not you mentioned the word democracy.
• 2:51:37
  No. The demos is not final. That's part of the Roman system.
• 2:51:41
  What did they say in Rome? The voice the voice of the demos is the voice of God, And the translations will say, the voice of the people. Well, it's not the people.
• 2:51:51
  The voice of 51% or more.
• 2:51:53
  And the fifth 49%
• 2:51:55
  that don't go along get crushed.
• 2:51:57
  That's not it either. And republicanism
• 2:52:00
  isn't it either. Republicanism
• 2:52:02
  is majority rule as well. And the Greeks didn't distinguish between those two words, democracy and republicanism.
• 2:52:08
  So what is final?
• 2:52:10
  God has delegated to us mere mortals here on our land,
• 2:52:14
  government of our common law tradition.
• 2:52:17
  It's in the Bible. It doesn't arise from the Bible, but the Bible acknowledges it and dovetails with it. It arises from nature. Rome says that natural law is logic,
• 2:52:28
  scholasticism.
• 2:52:29
  That's why the writings of Aquinas are official at Rome. That's their official doctrine. Well, it is a logic.
• 2:52:36
  And the Bible says no.
• 2:52:38
  Logic is not final. Logic is a whore.
• 2:52:41
  Logic will do anything you want it to do given the false premise that you wanna use.
• 2:52:46
  But what's final is God's assertive statements
• 2:52:50
  of fact of law.
• 2:52:52
  The way things are and they aren't gonna change. And that's what the Bible gives us, and that's what our the creation around us gives us. And God demands
• 2:53:00
  that we observe it and follow it. We observe it and follow it even when we don't understand it. But the fact of the matter, he establishes by his testimony.
• 2:53:10
  That's what Isaiah calls the Bible, the law and the testimony.
• 2:53:14
  So what is final then in our common law tradition? Getting to your question. Good good question. I love it. What is final among us is the 12 man jury.
• 2:53:24
  And that's why God empaneled 12 men to witness the evidence of his deity,
• 2:53:30
  his sovereignty,
• 2:53:31
  that he had been that God had had delegated him all power on land and in the skies.
• 2:53:39
  And he has ordained
• 2:53:41
  the jury of 12 men.
• 2:53:43
  Isn't that amazing 12? Why 12? Well, it's all through the bible. The number of 12 has to do with government from cover to cover and lid to lid. And Jesus Christ in panel 12 and he said, the jury of 12 is final and the jury of 12 is final in our common law tradition. Our courts have recognized that. As long as the course of our common law was filed and the jury is followed and the jury is according to the course of the common law, then no fact no fact the jury finds will be overturned. That's what our constitution even says.
• 2:54:14
  And
• 2:54:15
  our common law courts have said it for centuries. We're still saying it.
• 2:54:19
  It is that 12 man jury. So in answer to your question, again, it's just amazing.
• 2:54:25
  You're a contractor.
• 2:54:27
  You're up around
• 2:54:29
  Moscow Pullman where the universities are.
• 2:54:32
  And now they
• 2:54:34
  do a lot of things there that by the way,
• 2:54:37
  where I'm from and where I'm at here in the Wabash Valley,
• 2:54:41
  there are a lot of things about out there that I don't understand, but I've heard about, of course, that church out there, That Presbyterian church has been in the news. I don't understand everything about it. You apparently have been there a while, and you understand something about that Presbyterian
• 2:54:55
  church. Is that right? You've been there a number of years?
• 2:55:03
  Unknown: Yes. Sorry. I'm still adjourning here in my
• 2:55:06
  my personal accommodation.
• 2:55:10
  Yeah. They're
• 2:55:12
  they're like a denomination.
• 2:55:14
  So they yes. They're set up that way. They have
• 2:55:18
  you know, they got a, like, a a government structure, a hierarchical structure, I guess.
• 2:55:22
  Mhmm.
• 2:55:23
  Unknown: So They have a corral sure how vital decisions are made. But yeah. Well, I'm not either about them. Well, I and I've found they probably have a plurality of elders as the Bible teaches, not a single man show.
• 2:55:37
  Although in a situation like that, I'm sure there's a dominant personality,
• 2:55:42
  and that's dangerous.
• 2:55:43
  I would say that. I don't I don't I just know what I know what I read and what I see in the news and on the Internet, and they've even been in the news there.
• 2:55:52
  Quite a national news.
• 2:55:54
  So that's what I know about it. Well, thanks for calling in. I'm gonna run. Hey, Brett. Yeah. Hey, Brent. Yeah. Just one thing. This is Doug. Oh, yeah. I think
• 2:56:06
  Unknown: yeah. Thanks.
• 2:56:09
  So my understanding
• 2:56:10
  from
• 2:56:12
  the Roman
• 2:56:14
  Catholic
• 2:56:16
  religious
• 2:56:17
  aspect
• 2:56:19
  is
• 2:56:20
  and
• 2:56:20
  your
• 2:56:21
  the man you're speaking to,
• 2:56:24
  he mentioned
• 2:56:25
  at one point in the discussion about the great protester. I'm assuming
• 2:56:30
  he was talking about Martin Luther.
• 2:56:33
  Unknown: Yeah. And I don't know either. I didn't I guess I get to follow-up. Maybe he can clear that up. Well mhmm.
• 2:56:40
  Go ahead. Well,
• 2:56:42
  Unknown: during the time
• 2:56:43
  of Wycliffe
• 2:56:46
  I think Wycliffe
• 2:56:47
  Huss and
• 2:56:51
  Martin Luther,
• 2:56:52
  they were contemporaries.
• 2:56:55
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:56:56
  Mhmm.
• 2:56:57
  Kind of. Well, but but it close, but they were yeah. They didn't know each other. Wycliffe was little before, but keep talking.
• 2:57:05
  Unknown: Well so I think Wycliffe was the first one that
• 2:57:09
  translated
• 2:57:13
  the and it was in a written form. It wasn't printed,
• 2:57:19
  the bible.
• 2:57:21
  Unknown: Mhmm. And
• 2:57:23
  Unknown: I believe it was all
• 2:57:25
  three of these
• 2:57:26
  people, Hus,
• 2:57:28
  who was burned alive.
• 2:57:31
  Mhmm.
• 2:57:32
  Martin Luther, who was protecting and escaped,
• 2:57:36
  Unknown: I think, and White Cliff. I I don't think he was martyred either. Well, they tried they tried to kill him, but he died of natural causes before they get to him. That's right.
• 2:57:48
  Unknown: So but for 12
• 2:57:50
  for twelve hundred years,
• 2:57:52
  some say sixteen hundred years Uh-huh. The Roman Catholic pontiff whatever
• 2:57:58
  you wanna call it were
• 2:58:01
  killing people for not agreeing with them even though
• 2:58:06
  probably a 100% of the people couldn't read Latin
• 2:58:09
  or Greek. No. No. Yeah. I bet. So
• 2:58:13
  so here's my point.
• 2:58:16
  The the straw that broke the camel's back as far as I understand this
• 2:58:21
  was when the Roman Catholic church
• 2:58:25
  started
• 2:58:27
  handing out indulgences.
• 2:58:30
  Mhmm. And it first began
• 2:58:33
  with
• 2:58:34
  you could it was all about paying
• 2:58:37
  so you could get a written
• 2:58:41
  paper
• 2:58:41
  that said your your former
• 2:58:45
  sins
• 2:58:45
  were
• 2:58:46
  forgiven.
• 2:58:47
  Unknown: For a fee. For a fee. You had to pay a lot. That's what I said. Yeah. For payment. I'm sorry. I didn't catch you. Go ahead. Yeah.
• 2:58:54
  Unknown: But then,
• 2:58:56
  subsequently,
• 2:58:58
  it became
• 2:59:01
  your
• 2:59:02
  future sins could be could be bought
• 2:59:06
  Mhmm.
• 2:59:07
  Paid for. Mhmm. And
• 2:59:10
  so, of course, this is ridiculous.
• 2:59:13
  But
• 2:59:15
  so
• 2:59:16
  and that's when
• 2:59:20
  these notable
• 2:59:21
  White Cliff and Huss and Martin Luther had had enough
• 2:59:26
  and came. But
• 2:59:28
  from what I understand, they weren't necessarily trying to get rid of or destroy the I think they were Romanists.
• 2:59:35
  Unknown: Oh, they were Romanists. Uh-huh. Huss Huss was a student.
• 2:59:39
  Huss traveled to England and studied at Oxford under Wycliffe, and then he went back home. Yeah. And was it Bohemia or someplace?
• 2:59:48
  And Yeah. Yep. They they burned him alive. And then Luther came later and
• 2:59:54
  Wycliffe's called the morning star of the reformation because he was he was looked upon throughout all the all the
• 3:00:02
  Christendom,
• 3:00:03
  as they call it, as the man that knew everything.
• 3:00:06
  And when he said, wait a minute. If I know everything, here's what I know, and then he told them and it it didn't go well. They tried to kill him, but they didn't get to him in time. He died of a stroke at a little church he was pastoring,
• 3:00:18
  Letterworth, I think the name of it, and they buried him out there. And then Rome came along later and had a trial, dug up his bones, and had a trial and burnt his bones, and after they had a trial and declared him a heretic. But what he did that they didn't want, this is amazing. He just translated the Bible into English as a Roman priest, by the way. Yeah.
• 3:00:40
  And
• 3:00:41
  try and he didn't wanna bolt in the church and neither did Luther. They wanted to call the church back to reality.
• 3:00:48
  Unknown: That's all. Well, who which one of these translated it into Greek? Because that's what really
• 3:00:54
  from I could be wrong, but as I understand it,
• 3:00:58
  you know, these were
• 3:01:02
  these were on parchment or paper.
• 3:01:04
  And then
• 3:01:05
  when it was translated,
• 3:01:08
  it was the same.
• 3:01:09
  But right around that time is when so I'm saying,
• 3:01:14
  from what I understand, it was translated into Greek. A lot of the not a lot of the scholars
• 3:01:20
  spoke Latin, but a lot of the Greeks
• 3:01:23
  spoke Greek.
• 3:01:25
  And and so once it was translated into Greek,
• 3:01:29
  the Gutenberg press
• 3:01:32
  came out shortly thereafter.
• 3:01:34
  And soon thereafter,
• 3:01:36
  there were printing presses everywhere
• 3:01:39
  and subsequently then it went into English. Does that sound
• 3:01:44
  Unknown: correct? Well, I'm hearing what I'm hearing. Well, let
• 3:01:48
  me let me go back and just say what I know in case there's a tanglement that I don't understand from what you said.
• 3:01:54
  John Wycliffe translated the Bible into English for the first time, and he didn't have any manuscripts of the original tongues.
• 3:02:02
  All he had was the official Roman
• 3:02:05
  translation called the Vulgate of Jerome from about
• 3:02:09
  four hundred AD.
• 3:02:11
  And so he had been in Latin and the pope commissioned
• 3:02:14
  because there were so many Latin editions. He wanted he wanted finality,
• 3:02:19
  he said.
• 3:02:20
  Well, that's inconsistent because he's final, but right. So Jerome was commissioned and the the Latin Vulgate was the is still
• 3:02:28
  the final bible. They do not. Rome does not take the Greek or the Hebrew text of the original tongues to be final.
• 3:02:37
  And that's a fault right there. You you've you've bolted from reality at that point, but but the Latin Vulgate become final.
• 3:02:45
  Well, Wycliffe took the Latin Vulgate not having anything else and he just word for word in the same pretty much the same order of the Latin text,
• 3:02:54
  put it into English. That is why people that read it or try to read it, it is very old English, it is hard to read. But they notice that it is all stilted and rough going because
• 3:03:05
  the word order is off. Well, Bible translation had been forbidden for well over a thousand years. Nobody even had a thought in our highest in the highest levels of learning to how to do it. So he just took it word for word and tried to do it that way. It's not really that all that smooth or understandable, but he got it into English.
• 3:03:23
  And he said this, that England will never get its freedoms
• 3:03:27
  back or keep them unless the boy walking behind the plow can read. Well, after that time,
• 3:03:33
  then, of course, John Hus went to Bohemia. He wasn't a translator, but he promoted what we call today biblical ideas.
• 3:03:40
  But then after that,
• 3:03:42
  of course, they started burning at the stake a lot of people that were helping pass out bibles.
• 3:03:49
  And then after that, the printing press was invented. And when the printing press was invented,
• 3:03:53
  a Roman priest by the name of Erasmus
• 3:03:56
  from he was Dutch.
• 3:03:58
  He got the idea he could make a fortune by putting
• 3:04:02
  he by the way, he was the bastard son of a of a Roman priest
• 3:04:07
  and that's a legal term back at that time. In other words, Roman priests were producing babies all over Europe
• 3:04:12
  by the hundreds and thousands but never getting married. They had brothels.
• 3:04:17
  Oh, yeah. They were, you know, they were having a lot of fun. They always have had, still are by the way. But
• 3:04:24
  he said, can make money. I'll produce
• 3:04:26
  the first Greek New Testament.
• 3:04:29
  Oh, and I'll
• 3:04:31
  I'll put it in Greek and it'll be a best seller.
• 3:04:34
  And he had about a half a dozen, really half a dozen. There were seven, if my count's right. He had seven manuscripts of the New Testament.
• 3:04:44
  And those seven manuscripts
• 3:04:46
  became
• 3:04:47
  what he put in print. And the idea was to prove to the Pope of Rome
• 3:04:53
  that he was a better translator of Latin than Jerome.
• 3:04:57
  He wanted a new Latin translation
• 3:05:00
  that was better and more up to date And so what he did was he put the Greek text on one side, on one page, and on the other page was his Latin translation.
• 3:05:09
  He dedicated the whole thing to the pope of Rome
• 3:05:12
  and he said we needed to and I'm showing you how accurate it is so you can you can compare and contrast. In other words, the funny thing about the the funny thing about Rome, the official bible was Latin.
• 3:05:24
  But here are the the priests and everybody's saying, but we gotta compare it back to the original Greek.
• 3:05:29
  Well, that's what the protestant
• 3:05:31
  reformer said. No. Not the Latin. The Greek is original. If you don't go back to that, you're you're not even trying to come close.
• 3:05:39
  But he published that to promote his
• 3:05:41
  his translation
• 3:05:43
  of into Latin.
• 3:05:45
  Well, of course, a lot of people got a hold of that real quick because the printing presses were pumping it out. And he hurried. He hurried to get it done because there were a couple three, I think, a couple of Roman priests from France or Spain
• 3:05:58
  that were trying to do the same thing and it was a race. Whoever got theirs out first would get the money, you're right, get the sales.
• 3:06:06
  Well, Erasmus won, but because
• 3:06:09
  he only had six manuscripts or seven, about seven of the New Testament,
• 3:06:15
  He didn't have any
• 3:06:18
  manuscripts
• 3:06:19
  that had the last 12 verses of the book of Revelation.
• 3:06:24
  Because traditionally, if you have a manuscript of the Bible in Greek, by the Middle Ages, they had invented what we call the book.
• 3:06:31
  They put a hole, three holes through the sheets of papyri and they put them together in sheets into a book. That was a new idea. But over the centuries,
• 3:06:41
  since that had been done in the Middle Ages,
• 3:06:43
  the last sheet and the cover sheet would be the first to rot away.
• 3:06:48
  He had nothing
• 3:06:50
  for those last 12 verses.
• 3:06:52
  So what he did was to get it published before these fellows from France or Spain or wherever it was, to get it published now I'm thinking it was Spain, but you can go look it up. To get it published, he back he had the Latin Vulgate, so he back translated
• 3:07:05
  the Latin Vulgate into Greek.
• 3:07:08
  And he that's what you've got in the King James Bible, for example. And in the German Bible, all the that Luther translated,
• 3:07:16
  those early ones of the early reformers, they translated from that text,
• 3:07:20
  and they didn't even have the whole New Testament. And he introduced when he did that, by the count of most everybody it looks, he introduced 12 new variations,
• 3:07:30
  differences in the Greek. Now we have we found they turned up in the monasteries and all over Europe.
• 3:07:37
  These manuscripts
• 3:07:38
  of the Greek New Testament and now we have almost almost
• 3:07:43
  6,000.
• 3:07:45
  And what's amazing about those 6,000 with the exception of those two twelve verse sections I was talking about and it's obvious there
• 3:07:53
  what is and what isn't the bible.
• 3:07:58
  You could take all the variations and there are hundreds of thousands
• 3:08:03
  of maybe a letter to misspell a word or something like that
• 3:08:07
  or
• 3:08:08
  ditto or a word will appear twice, know. Those are
• 3:08:12
  differences in manuscript copying that don't make a difference. In other words, don't change anything.
• 3:08:18
  And of
• 3:08:20
  all of them, the only ones of any significance
• 3:08:23
  you could put them on a on an eight by 10 sheet and it would only fill up half of the sheet
• 3:08:30
  and those are the ones that can make a difference in fact.
• 3:08:33
  But as those that hate the Bible say,
• 3:08:36
  and I can cite the names of those who say it, they're not a manuscript variation in all of the Bible that changes any doctrine
• 3:08:45
  of Christianity.
• 3:08:46
  Now
• 3:08:47
  that's saying so.
• 3:08:49
  6,000
• 3:08:50
  manuscripts. And one more I gotta say one more thing. I gotta say one more thing.
• 3:08:55
  The the the only ancient manuscript that comes close to 6,000
• 3:09:00
  is the Iliad of Homer, and it has almost 600.
• 3:09:05
  And every other ancient piece of literature
• 3:09:08
  like the
• 3:09:10
  historian
• 3:09:11
  Tacitus,
• 3:09:12
  Roman historian, they have anywhere from six to 20 manuscripts and that's it. And even then, sometimes not even a half a dozen.
• 3:09:20
  So the New Testament and the Bible itself is so overwhelming in reliability
• 3:09:25
  of the manuscripts
• 3:09:26
  that it's an veritable embarrassment of riches.
• 3:09:29
  Why do I need to go to a Baptist preacher, a charismatic preacher,
• 3:09:33
  a present day prophet of the charismatics,
• 3:09:36
  a present day prophet of the Mormon church, the Pope of Rome, which is their present day prophet by the way. That's their official doctrine. The history of the church shows that clearly. Why would I wanna go to anybody and ask them what God said?
• 3:09:52
  Besides,
• 3:09:53
  as John Owen said, John Owen was the teacher of John Locke.
• 3:09:57
  John Locke is the man that Jefferson said, one of the three greatest mortals that ever lived. I don't disagree with him.
• 3:10:05
  But John Locke was a biblicist to the nth degree. His teacher, John Owen, said there's only two times of extra biblical revelation. Only two times.
• 3:10:15
  There's the kind of extra biblical revelation that disagrees with the bible.
• 3:10:20
  We said we don't need that. So let's just get rid of that. That just leaves extra biblical revelation that agrees with the bible.
• 3:10:27
  Well, if it agrees with the bible, we don't need that either. We got the bible.
• 3:10:31
  So he concludes,
• 3:10:33
  we don't need any extra biblical revelation and we don't.
• 3:10:36
  We have the revelation of the nature of creation around us. The way things are, the seasons,
• 3:10:43
  movements of the heavenly bodies, etcetera. That won't change.
• 3:10:47
  And a whole lot of other laws of physics, we call them, and we've got the Bible. And the Bible talks about both of those. Logic is not part of it's a tool we use, but that's not revelation.
• 3:10:59
  That is not natural law as
• 3:11:02
  the Babylonian system of Rome and the other Babylonian system say.
• 3:11:06
  The code of Justinian, the laws of the Roman Empire. If you're a Romanist
• 3:11:10
  and any other religion that adds anything to the Bible like the Mormons add
• 3:11:16
  the Book of Mormon, the Romanist adds
• 3:11:19
  tradition.
• 3:11:22
  If you're in that kind of a group, notice, just look close and you'll see that the bible recedes from consideration.
• 3:11:29
  Just recedes.
• 3:11:31
  And the same thing is true in the charismatic churches. They're not known for being bible translators
• 3:11:36
  for crying out loud. They're known for extra biblical revelation.
• 3:11:41
  But the bible always recedes from consideration
• 3:11:44
  where there's extra biblical revelation.
• 3:11:46
  Well, now, Doug, I gotta quit and you talk enough. Yeah. Well, thank you for that.
• 3:11:53
  Unknown: It was a since I
• 3:11:55
  happen to delve into this in the last week,
• 3:11:59
  these questions came up, and
• 3:12:02
  I
• 3:12:03
  appreciate you greatly,
• 3:12:04
  for
• 3:12:06
  your historical
• 3:12:07
  knowledge of these things. So thanks again.
• 3:12:10
  Unknown: Yeah. And I do have thank you too.
• 3:12:13
  I thank you too, and I I do have to head into mass, but catholicanswers.com
• 3:12:17
  Unknown: would do a better job. I don't represent the Vatican, not even my parish. So but But I I and you're enough questions. You know? Appreciate it. Well, appreciate you. You're a nice fellow and hardworking man, I'm sure. But notice again, you say and this is common with a Roman Romanist.
• 3:12:34
  He will say, please ask my priest.
• 3:12:37
  Go to catholicanswers.com
• 3:12:38
  because a Romanist
• 3:12:40
  is trained on his heart of hearts to trust the scholastic experts and not trust the word of God. That's what I noticed about all Babylonian religion. Mormonism,
• 3:12:50
  Judaism,
• 3:12:51
  Romanism,
• 3:12:52
  and by the way, the founders of those three religions in the modern times
• 3:12:57
  were contemporaries.
• 3:12:58
  They lived at the same time and they all fell prey to an Islamicist,
• 3:13:03
  a sage in North Of Africa named Bavaros,
• 3:13:06
  who introduced the writings of Aristotle and Plato into the Western world.
• 3:13:11
  Aquinas got a hold of them
• 3:13:13
  and then
• 3:13:15
  Mohammed is the Jewish rabbi got a hold of them, and those became the official doctrines. You ask a rabbi, they'll tell you, well, no rabbi rabbinicism
• 3:13:24
  is a scholasticism.
• 3:13:26
  You ask a Romanist.
• 3:13:27
  These guys are big on education. Oh, trained in logic to the nth degree.
• 3:13:33
  The
• 3:13:34
  Jesuits for crying out loud.
• 3:13:36
  But as Paul the apostle says, ever learning but never
• 3:13:41
  able
• 3:13:41
  to come to a knowledge of the truth.
• 3:13:44
  I don't care how many PhDs you've got.
• 3:13:48
  Dinky doctors and punky professors are everywhere,
• 3:13:51
  and they know a lot.
• 3:13:53
  But do they have knowledge,
• 3:13:56
  interactive
• 3:13:57
  personal
• 3:13:58
  experiential
• 3:13:59
  knowledge
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  with Jesus Christ? That's the question.
• 3:14:03
  Do they know him? Not know about him. Not know all the theology about him. Do they know him?
• 3:14:11
  Knowing God is the goal and to know God is to know what he wants. Daniel said in the eleventh or ninth chapter, I believe, Daniel verse 11, you can look it up.
• 3:14:21
  It says there, they who do know
• 3:14:25
  their God
• 3:14:27
  shall be strong
• 3:14:30
  and do.
• 3:14:32
  The
• 3:14:33
  translation say do exploits.
• 3:14:35
  There is no Hebrew word there for exploit.
• 3:14:38
  It's just do, a powerful simple three
• 3:14:41
  letter Hebrew word
• 3:14:43
  shall do.
• 3:14:45
  But how do you get strong and how do you do and how do what makes you strong?
• 3:14:49
  You know. Not know about God.
• 3:14:52
  Not having studied theology,
• 3:14:55
  but nothing wrong with doing that, but you better know him. What did Jesus Christ say?
• 3:15:01
  They are the whole you can go back and read the context, but he said depart from me.
• 3:15:06
  I never knew you.
• 3:15:08
  Well, he knows those.
• 3:15:10
  And those that he knows, then they he he puts an unquenchable
• 3:15:17
  thirst in them to know him. That's how the bible presents it.
• 3:15:22
  Unknown: Yeah. It's just in
• 3:15:25
  the Greek,
• 3:15:26
  Brent, there's many words
• 3:15:30
  translated
• 3:15:30
  into
• 3:15:32
  k n o w.
• 3:15:34
  Like, I believe
• 3:15:36
  from my memory that it's the Greek word, which
• 3:15:41
  Unknown: is That's right. Yeah. Yeah. That's the New Testament.
• 3:15:44
  Unknown: Experiencing
• 3:15:45
  Unknown: it. Yeah. Yeah. The Old Testament word is is the same. It's one it's not always true of the words going back and forth. But in this case, the Hebrew word Yadah
• 3:15:55
  and the Greek word Ganosco are
• 3:15:58
  themes of the Bible
• 3:16:00
  and the meanings are not
• 3:16:02
  ambiguous and they both always mean the same thing,
• 3:16:06
  experiential knowledge.
• 3:16:08
  The
• 3:16:09
  first appearance of the word Yada in the Hebrew Old Testament
• 3:16:13
  is where it says there in the first few chapters of Genesis.
• 3:16:17
  It says that
• 3:16:19
  Adam, our grandpa
• 3:16:22
  knew,
• 3:16:23
  Hebrew,
• 3:16:27
  knew his wife.
• 3:16:29
  And what happened?
• 3:16:31
  She conceived and had a son. The knowledge of Ginosko and Yadah
• 3:16:36
  is the knowledge that is so intimate
• 3:16:39
  that in the between men and women is the knowledge that is only gained behind closed doors.
• 3:16:45
  And I'll let you figure out the rest of it.
• 3:16:48
  But if you've ever been married for any length of time, you'd say, yeah, I get it.
• 3:16:52
  I married my wife. I didn't know her. I knew a lot about her. I liked her, but I married her. And then slowly but surely over the decades, I've learned to know her.
• 3:17:00
  And I know her. But I'll know her more tomorrow. And that's the way it is. That's just a picture.
• 3:17:05
  That's the way it is with
• 3:17:07
  with the difference distinction between knowing about
• 3:17:11
  and knowing. Being ever knowing everything, ever learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. Never able. That doesn't say you won't because you don't want. It's saying you can't and you can't
• 3:17:24
  unless god
• 3:17:26
  cross the line and gives you the new birth.
• 3:17:29
  That's how he does. That's about relationship.
• 3:17:32
  Unknown: How can you have
• 3:17:35
  well Mhmm. It is. It's
• 3:17:37
  and I don't mean
• 3:17:39
  progeny or anything like that. I mean,
• 3:17:43
  spending time with
• 3:17:45
  whomever.
• 3:17:47
  So how can one
• 3:17:50
  substitute
• 3:17:51
  a relationship
• 3:17:53
  with
• 3:17:54
  the messiah
• 3:17:56
  and the creator of all things with
• 3:18:00
  a religion
• 3:18:02
  or anybody.
• 3:18:03
  It doesn't matter. The pastor, the pope,
• 3:18:07
  the bishops, the cardinals.
• 3:18:11
  You know, before
• 3:18:14
  Martin Luther and up until that time,
• 3:18:18
  when the indulgences
• 3:18:19
  came up, that's what I was saying, that that kind of broke the camel's back when they were offering forgiveness
• 3:18:26
  for sins even in the future that these men,
• 3:18:30
  they weren't trying to tear the Roman
• 3:18:33
  Catholic
• 3:18:35
  religion down. Mhmm. They just knew
• 3:18:39
  how
• 3:18:40
  the botch this was if it was going to be allowed to go on, and that's what, in my opinion
• 3:18:47
  Mhmm. Martin Luther really disinsensed
• 3:18:50
  him, and that's why he nailed the 95 thesis
• 3:18:53
  Mhmm. And and challenged everybody
• 3:18:56
  to debate him, which no one did.
• 3:19:00
  Unknown: Yeah. And Martin Luther was a very, very young man at that time, and he was. He prided himself on his logic, by the way. Yeah. Very much at that time.
• 3:19:09
  And he liked debate and he was young and had energy and that's a big deal. That's why Charlie Kirk he was popular on the college campuses with young people and that's an important tool. Logic is an important tool, but remember,
• 3:19:21
  that's not natural law and that's not the definition of how to find truth ultimately. No. Once you find truth,
• 3:19:28
  logic becomes a tool to reason from. For example, Paul the apostle said in the twentieth chapter of the book of Acts that he left the elders. He appointed elders, plurality of elders, in a town called Miletus there,
• 3:19:41
  and that's the church government.
• 3:19:43
  And he he left them and he said, I have not
• 3:19:47
  neglected
• 3:19:48
  to declare unto you
• 3:19:50
  the whole
• 3:19:52
  counsel of God.
• 3:19:54
  Not just part of it,
• 3:19:56
  the Bible itself, all of it. And he said,
• 3:19:59
  I have
• 3:20:01
  I have
• 3:20:03
  oh, he said, I reasoned with you.
• 3:20:07
  That's logic.
• 3:20:08
  The word, the Greek word logic
• 3:20:11
  out of
• 3:20:13
  the scriptures. I did not reason with you out of the latest event in the news. I didn't reason with you out of the recent magazine or newspaper article. I didn't reason with you out of the Greek philosophers
• 3:20:26
  or Roman scholasticism.
• 3:20:28
  I reasoned with you out of a foundation
• 3:20:32
  of an irrefutable
• 3:20:33
  set of assertions called the Bible.
• 3:20:36
  And that's what the Bible is. No air of fact. Pure
• 3:20:40
  word.
• 3:20:41
  Pure assertions. Matter of fact, the word in the Greek New Testament,
• 3:20:46
  Rome has the word logos. Rome says it means one thing and the Bible says it means another. In the beginning was the logos.
• 3:20:54
  John chapter one verse one, and the logos was with God
• 3:20:57
  and the logos was God. He, the logos, Jesus Christ
• 3:21:02
  was with him in the beginning. That word logos
• 3:21:06
  is lifted
• 3:21:08
  from the tribunals of the Greek Roman world and it means
• 3:21:12
  proven claim.
• 3:21:14
  There were two words in the tribunals at that time, rhema and
• 3:21:18
  logos.
• 3:21:19
  Rhema was a complaint you filed in the tribunal.
• 3:21:22
  Complaining. A complaint we call it.
• 3:21:25
  And that's what they were. They may be true. The rhemas may be true,
• 3:21:30
  they're not proven yet.
• 3:21:31
  But then after the trial and the proof comes or whatever, whatever is proven, they call the logos. It's proven.
• 3:21:38
  Jesus Christ is proven. As we've said, the veritable embarrassment of riches, his identity,
• 3:21:44
  who he is.
• 3:21:46
  He is the rock
• 3:21:48
  upon which god's
• 3:21:51
  subpoenaed witness group, Ecclesia,
• 3:21:54
  is built, not Peter.
• 3:21:56
  He, and in that passage, he points out, I'm talking about me. The genders make that abundantly clear. The genders of the antecedents,
• 3:22:06
  of the pronouns. It's all there.
• 3:22:08
  Clear.
• 3:22:09
  It's a perversion to say otherwise.
• 3:22:11
  My question is, you wanna
• 3:22:14
  do what the Pope says or do what follow what the Bible says. Now I dare say, funny thing, a Romanist,
• 3:22:22
  I've been around them all my life. I've talked to them. When I was young, I debated them. They're all the same.
• 3:22:27
  They
• 3:22:28
  they will follow what the Pope says. How often have I read
• 3:22:33
  a Roman priest who has written a scholarly
• 3:22:36
  book on some book of the Bible
• 3:22:39
  and they'll send the priest will say, clearly this is what the text says and this is clearly, unambiguously
• 3:22:46
  what it means by what it says and followed by this, Doug, however,
• 3:22:53
  the holy father hath said.
• 3:22:57
  Now that is stupid beyond stupid.
• 3:23:00
  But they
• 3:23:02
  discover what the bible says,
• 3:23:04
  discover what the holy father says as dead
• 3:23:08
  set contrary contradiction to it and proclaim
• 3:23:12
  on that, I'm rejecting this and I'm following
• 3:23:15
  the holy father.
• 3:23:17
  Now tell me that isn't the official doctrine of Rome. Of course, is.
• 3:23:21
  You wanna follow that? You can follow it into the pit of hell. I don't wanna go.
• 3:23:26
  And I have a responsibility
• 3:23:29
  put upon me to say the truth.
• 3:23:31
  I don't have responsibility
• 3:23:33
  to antagonize.
• 3:23:34
  I have responsibility
• 3:23:36
  to speak
• 3:23:37
  and say no. That is false.
• 3:23:39
  That
• 3:23:40
  is a rattlesnake.
• 3:23:42
  Don't go near that.
• 3:23:44
  And if I don't even What? Yeah. No.
• 3:23:48
  Go ahead. Yeah. I know what you're gonna say. If I don't do that yeah. No. You're playing you're playing with a danger you can't deal with, by the way, when you do that. Don't play with it. Don't be around it. Stay away from it or it will get you. Keep yourself, as John says at the end of the first epistle, keep yourself
• 3:24:07
  clean
• 3:24:08
  away
• 3:24:09
  from idols. What is an idol? It's a three-dimensional figure that you
• 3:24:14
  pay homage to and don't tell me you don't. Well, I'm just using it as a visual aid to worship. Well, that's exactly how the Bible identifies idolatry.
• 3:24:23
  Don't do that.
• 3:24:24
  Stay away from it, it says.
• 3:24:27
  Don't go near it. Don't go in a Roman cathedral. They're full of them. Stay away from them. Why? Because the bible says, David says in the Psalms that around the idols,
• 3:24:39
  idols, the three-dimensional figures,
• 3:24:42
  the icons,
• 3:24:43
  the
• 3:24:45
  the flat the dimensional, two dimensional figures
• 3:24:48
  around them demons
• 3:24:51
  hang out.
• 3:24:52
  Under, it says, the prepositions of the Hebrew text under, around, over, with,
• 3:24:59
  Stay away from them because anybody who would stand and use a visual aid to worship like that or kneel before a Madonna, whatever,
• 3:25:09
  you're revealing your belly to the devil.
• 3:25:12
  You're showing I remember Don't think he won't jump on you. Go ahead.
• 3:25:17
  Unknown: Well, I remember some time ago,
• 3:25:20
  my brain cells were, like, really
• 3:25:23
  firing off when
• 3:25:26
  the subject of prepositions came up on Roger's show one day. Mhmm. People don't understand how important prepositions
• 3:25:33
  are.
• 3:25:35
  Mhmm. Bullying did a pretty good job
• 3:25:39
  in his book,
• 3:25:41
  and
• 3:25:43
  and he Bullinger.
• 3:25:45
  Unknown: Oh, Bullinger. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
• 3:25:48
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 3:25:48
  And,
• 3:25:51
  you know,
• 3:25:52
  you you look at well, he did witness of the stars and Mhmm. Yeah. And but his his companion bible
• 3:26:00
  I mean, a guy that could produce that much information.
• 3:26:03
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 3:26:06
  Unknown: Although
• 3:26:07
  well, anyway,
• 3:26:08
  yeah,
• 3:26:09
  the
• 3:26:11
  people
• 3:26:13
  when you
• 3:26:15
  put something
• 3:26:16
  above
• 3:26:17
  scripture,
• 3:26:18
  okay
• 3:26:19
  Mhmm. Then
• 3:26:22
  you're delving in that
• 3:26:26
  murky spiritual.
• 3:26:27
  You have to study to show yourself approved.
• 3:26:31
  A workman
• 3:26:33
  that needeth not to be disappointed
• 3:26:35
  in your expectations.
• 3:26:37
  I think that's the Greek translation
• 3:26:40
  there Mhmm. Of of what you expect.
• 3:26:43
  Mhmm. Why,
• 3:26:46
  you know, you're
• 3:26:48
  the guy you were talking with.
• 3:26:51
  It's nice to to have good intentions
• 3:26:54
  and and keep seeking for the truth. But the scripture says,
• 3:27:00
  you know, be
• 3:27:02
  a workman.
• 3:27:03
  And that is not you can't
• 3:27:06
  take someone else's
• 3:27:09
  interpretation
• 3:27:10
  or advice.
• 3:27:11
  The we have the books available to study.
• 3:27:16
  Oh,
• 3:27:17
  will.
• 3:27:18
  Mhmm. And and it's not
• 3:27:22
  a very of anything.
• 3:27:23
  You know, Brent, you know so much about farming.
• 3:27:28
  This didn't
• 3:27:29
  come it wasn't a download.
• 3:27:31
  It was it was actually a.
• 3:27:34
  Unknown: It was an experience. An experience. So how I agree, man.
• 3:27:38
  Unknown: Mhmm. So how are you going to get a relationship
• 3:27:42
  with the messiah
• 3:27:43
  and the heavenly father
• 3:27:46
  without
• 3:27:47
  putting the effort in, the work in? Study to show you that study.
• 3:27:53
  I know you're aware of this is.
• 3:27:56
  Mhmm.
• 3:27:57
  That's the Greek word. Mhmm. And is
• 3:28:03
  it can be translated as like digging a ditch.
• 3:28:07
  Hard work. Hard.
• 3:28:09
  Mhmm. Would that
• 3:28:10
  I know
• 3:28:12
  I've been a workman jackhammer. I used to jackhammer. You know,
• 3:28:16
  90 pound, 100 pound jackhammer
• 3:28:19
  for eight hours a day.
• 3:28:20
  I'm I was glad to get off of that Mhmm.
• 3:28:24
  Job,
• 3:28:25
  but
• 3:28:26
  it's hard work. Oh, man. And
• 3:28:30
  yeah. It rattles your teeth. Oh, man. Yeah. And
• 3:28:34
  yeah.
• 3:28:35
  But if
• 3:28:37
  there's anything
• 3:28:38
  this is about
• 3:28:41
  every I look at everything, all the scripture.
• 3:28:45
  It's
• 3:28:46
  the
• 3:28:48
  the goal,
• 3:28:49
  the
• 3:28:52
  the end
• 3:28:53
  of the journey,
• 3:28:55
  the rainbow the rainbow at the end of the trail, whatever,
• 3:29:00
  is
• 3:29:01
  being a citizen or an inhabitant
• 3:29:05
  in the father's
• 3:29:07
  kingdom.
• 3:29:09
  Mhmm. The messiah spoke about the kingdom.
• 3:29:12
  So it's a a different society,
• 3:29:15
  certainly.
• 3:29:16
  Mhmm. But this is what it's about.
• 3:29:19
  And and so
• 3:29:23
  what other endeavor
• 3:29:25
  I I know well, I mean, I
• 3:29:28
  when I've
• 3:29:29
  worked
• 3:29:30
  with my hands and body, I I do it to make money,
• 3:29:34
  but I also
• 3:29:36
  do it with honor
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  to be the best, and and I'm serving someone when I'm doing that. So
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  what other vocation,
• 3:29:47
  whatever journey,
• 3:29:48
  what other journey
• 3:29:50
  is
• 3:29:51
  more worthy
• 3:29:52
  than getting into the king to please the creator?
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  Okay?
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  Unknown: Mhmm.
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  Unknown: Not be a kiss butt
• 3:30:01
  Mhmm. God. You know? But to please the very creator that formed your everybody's
• 3:30:07
  whole universe.
• 3:30:09
  Mhmm. It just to me
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  Unknown: Well, I'm
• 3:30:12
  not something that's not something that's something that's not something you can, of course, ratchet up in yourself.
• 3:30:17
  You wanna please your father, and you're not in charge of who your father is. My mother was in the hospital a few years ago, and we thought we're gonna use her lose her up in her nineties and all.
• 3:30:31
  Had bladder infection, which is a problem with elderly women more than others.
• 3:30:36
  And she began to hallucinate and she'd asked me, am I really seeing this? And on she go. And the nurse came in at night and said, now you go to sleep.
• 3:30:46
  Well, my mother said, wait a minute young lady.
• 3:30:51
  You don't tell other people to go to sleep and expect them
• 3:30:55
  to be able to work themselves into that. It doesn't work that way. I'm not sleepy.
• 3:31:01
  The only way to go to sleep is if you're sleepy.
• 3:31:04
  The only way to have a desire to sleep is if you're sleepy and really do it. And the only way to have a desire and ability to please your father is if he
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  has begotten you.
• 3:31:15
  That's his business.
• 3:31:16
  That's not call.
• 3:31:19
  You talk about sovereignty and what is final, it's
• 3:31:23
  not my call that I'm born from above. That's not my final decision.
• 3:31:28
  And most of Christendom, including Rome by the way, and all other false religions say it is. The bible is point blank clear over and over and over on that point too. And by the way, the whole reformation was built on that point and that's why Luther said to Erasmus, that other fellow was talking about, they were debating that point
• 3:31:49
  and they did it publicly in their writings.
• 3:31:52
  And Luther said,
• 3:31:54
  you have identified
• 3:31:56
  the hinge
• 3:31:57
  on which all the door
• 3:31:59
  of our understanding of God turns. The hinge? Yeah. He's sovereign. That's the hinge. There isn't anything else.
• 3:32:07
  You got that straight,
• 3:32:08
  other things can fall in place properly for you. But if you think that you're sovereign, you're the captain of your fate, you make the final decision or that the Pope does or the the guru Maharaji
• 3:32:21
  or or your Baptist preacher or your charismatic prophet.
• 3:32:28
  You haven't been enlightened. That's why John says, you know all things, not them.
• 3:32:33
  They know nothing.
• 3:32:35
  For all of their learning, they know nothing. You have an unction,
• 3:32:38
  he says, from the holy one. Oh, some guy down here that trust Jesus Christ for everything.
• 3:32:45
  Nobody ever heard of him,
• 3:32:47
  but he knows all things. That's an important phrase and to understand and the Greek text fleshes it out so beautifully. A man by by the way, that man John
• 3:32:57
  didn't know much. He was formally without formal education of any kind. He was unlettered says the Bible.
• 3:33:04
  His vocabulary
• 3:33:05
  was exceedingly limited and I can prove that just in that one book.
• 3:33:09
  There's not very many words at all,
• 3:33:12
  but he knows all things. Knows that means gonosco.
• 3:33:16
  He has experienced
• 3:33:18
  the ultimate
• 3:33:19
  thing
• 3:33:20
  and if you haven't, your PhDs don't mean nothing.
• 3:33:23
  If you'd have, they may or they may not,
• 3:33:26
  but you may be a baby. Everybody has to enter knowing nothing as a newborn babe, by the new birth And God will whip you into shape.
• 3:33:35
  Yeah. Give him time.
• 3:33:36
  Well, okay, Doug. I'm gonna turn it over to you and leave. How's that?
• 3:33:44
  Unknown: I can't I can't I
• 3:33:46
  can't wear your shoes, but
• 3:33:49
  thank you so much. I'm glad I drew that out of you because
• 3:33:54
  you Glad you what? Well, I'm
• 3:33:57
  glad that I could draw draw
• 3:34:01
  all of these
• 3:34:04
  other pieces of knowledge regarding the reformation
• 3:34:08
  and
• 3:34:09
  and these people involved that really,
• 3:34:13
  regarding the Roman Catholic church,
• 3:34:17
  took the power of the Roman Catholic church
• 3:34:21
  and
• 3:34:22
  Unknown: challenged it and diminished it Let me tell a real clear way. Yeah. Let me tell one more story. And I only know what I hear and what I read and and all the times that we discussed like this and I learned a lot of things. There was a Roman priest back during the reformation and he was from Italy.
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  I don't know that I remember his name, I don't know if I ever knew it,
• 3:34:44
  But this true story from what I read in history,
• 3:34:48
  he
• 3:34:49
  he became persuaded by men
• 3:34:52
  like Wycliffe
• 3:34:54
  that
• 3:34:56
  only the blood of Jesus Christ,
• 3:34:59
  only him and him alone, all things are of him and through him and back to him, and that his word is the evidence of who he is and what he is. And without the written word of God and the experience you can have on from that evidence, there is no Christianity.
• 3:35:12
  So they brought him in and tried him for his life.
• 3:35:16
  And this reveals the doctrine of Rome.
• 3:35:19
  They said, well, we like this guy. We don't want to burn him or turn him over to the secular authorities to burn him at the stake.
• 3:35:27
  Wish they would have done a million times.
• 3:35:30
  But we like him. We're gonna give him three chances. I was it's the bet if he just change his mind, he'd be we won't he won't die.
• 3:35:37
  We'll ask him three questions and certainly, in one of those three questions, he'll give us the right answer. And then according to our canon law, we can get rid we can save his life.
• 3:35:49
  So they got him in the tribunal for his life and they said, what is the first cause
• 3:35:53
  of salvation?
• 3:35:56
  He thought for a moment and he said,
• 3:36:00
  Jesus Christ.
• 3:36:02
  Well,
• 3:36:03
  they struck out on that one. They're trying to save his life, they said.
• 3:36:08
  Then they said, well, what is the second cause of salvation?
• 3:36:13
  He said, well,
• 3:36:15
  you have to be Jesus Christ.
• 3:36:18
  And why do you say that? Well, because the Bible says everything is of him, through him, and back to him, and and the Bible says he is the beginning and the end, the alpha and the omega.
• 3:36:29
  That's the first letter of the Greek alphabet, and the last letter just as an analogy to say he's everything.
• 3:36:36
  Oh, yeah. I'd have to say for the second cause, it'd be Jesus Christ.
• 3:36:40
  And they said, oh boy, he's got one more chance to save his life.
• 3:36:44
  They asked him the third question. The third question was, what is the third cause of salvation?
• 3:36:50
  He thought for a minute and he said, well, to be consistent with
• 3:36:55
  the Bible and what I just pointed out before, it'd be Jesus Christ.
• 3:37:00
  And of course, they burned him at the stake.
• 3:37:03
  Well, what were they looking for? Well, they were think they thought in one of those three answers that he would say somewhere there
• 3:37:10
  that the priesthood
• 3:37:12
  was necessary.
• 3:37:13
  And remember in the Roman system,
• 3:37:16
  the church is not
• 3:37:17
  the people that go to mass. The church is only the priesthood.
• 3:37:21
  Only the priesthood.
• 3:37:23
  That is the church.
• 3:37:27
  Unknown: And, you know Yeah. Mhmm. Go ahead. You know, Brent
• 3:37:31
  so
• 3:37:32
  thank you for that.
• 3:37:34
  So
• 3:37:35
  the way I read your explanation is
• 3:37:39
  they're denying Jesus Christ,
• 3:37:41
  which is
• 3:37:43
  an antichrist.
• 3:37:45
  Unknown: Well, yeah. But they're doing it that's true. I agree. But they're doing it like this, like all antichrist do. They don't say I'm against Christ.
• 3:37:52
  They say No. I'm I'm I'm
• 3:37:55
  helping Christ. I'm on the other end. The the preposition anti
• 3:38:00
  described the relationship, not like all prepositions,
• 3:38:03
  between two things or two persons or a person or a thing.
• 3:38:07
  And anti
• 3:38:08
  means
• 3:38:10
  on both sides or on this side or that side. I'm on the opposite end of the log helping Jesus Christ pick the log up. That's the official doctrine of all antichrist.
• 3:38:20
  He has given me jurisdiction to handle here. I have all jurisdiction,
• 3:38:24
  you know.
• 3:38:26
  And my name is supposed to be spoken in the churches. Now in the church, that means among the priesthood. Again,
• 3:38:32
  the priesthood is the the is the interloper
• 3:38:35
  along with the pope that
• 3:38:37
  inserts itself between God and man and says, gotta go through us. Well, listen, if I don't have to go through them, then they can fleece me for a lot of money and they can that justifies their existence if I gotta go through them. But I don't.
• 3:38:51
  And I say it, therefore, I am anathema by their official decree. They have relegated me to hell and they say that Jesus Christ has given them the authority to do that. Well, take umbrage to that, of course. No. I don't need them.
• 3:39:07
  I don't need them at all. Here's another way to look at it. One more thing. I like to run the gamut if I can. If you just answer one question correctly,
• 3:39:14
  you'll fall on the right side of this discussion.
• 3:39:17
  Did the bible
• 3:39:19
  did the Did the Bible produce God's people
• 3:39:23
  or did the church produce the Bible?
• 3:39:27
  The Protestants,
• 3:39:28
  the Reformation said one thing,
• 3:39:31
  Rome still says another. Rome says that the word of God written
• 3:39:35
  that the priesthood
• 3:39:37
  of Rome produced it
• 3:39:38
  starting with Peter. That's what they say.
• 3:39:41
  And reformers said, no, no. The Bible teaches
• 3:39:45
  that this word of God is the seed that provide the conception
• 3:39:49
  that produces God's people. It's just the opposite.
• 3:39:52
  See?
• 3:39:53
  Again, it's always simple when you boil it down, but
• 3:39:57
  Unknown: Let's
• 3:39:58
  not let's
• 3:40:00
  not forget
• 3:40:01
  that
• 3:40:02
  the
• 3:40:04
  Romanists
• 3:40:06
  put Mary
• 3:40:07
  above Jesus Christ.
• 3:40:09
  Unknown: Well, to put anybody to put anybody equal to Jesus Christ is blasphemous,
• 3:40:15
  and that's what they do with her. So same thing. Somebody wanted to ask ask a question. Who was that?
• 3:40:22
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, I wanted to ask a question that's not on this subject,
• 3:40:25
  but it's current news.
• 3:40:30
  Is that okay before you go or No.
• 3:40:33
  Unknown: Yeah. Go ahead. And then I'll if I gotta go, but thanks. Go ahead. Okay. The defense attorney in the Clancy case Mhmm.
• 3:40:41
  Unknown: With a woman that murdered her three kids. We watched the
• 3:40:45
  the lone juror who would not have quit charged
• 3:40:49
  because he said he broke the law by not following the judge's
• 3:40:54
  jury orders. What do you think about that?
• 3:40:59
  Unknown: The
• 3:41:01
  that comes down to
• 3:41:03
  a doctrine or a recognition of a doctrine that arose
• 3:41:07
  during the Reformation
• 3:41:09
  called
• 3:41:10
  unlawful
• 3:41:10
  oaths.
• 3:41:12
  The unlawful oath.
• 3:41:14
  It's unlawful
• 3:41:17
  to knowingly
• 3:41:18
  take an oath
• 3:41:21
  to commit a crime or to do something wrong.
• 3:41:24
  And it's unlawful
• 3:41:28
  to
• 3:41:29
  not disregard
• 3:41:30
  an oath once you've discovered that your oath was to commit a crime. Maybe you took the oath thinking you were serving God. A nun or a priest takes an oath thinking, a lot of times, like Paul the Apostle said, when I was a Judaite, leader of Judaism,
• 3:41:46
  I had sworn an oath, and I but I didn't understand what I was doing, so I was really I was doing some nasty stuff. But once I saw that the oath was unlawful,
• 3:41:55
  I abandoned my oath.
• 3:41:59
  An unlawful oath to do an unlawful act, whether you know it or not, once you find out it's unlawful,
• 3:42:05
  you don't have an option. You have a duty to disregard your oath.
• 3:42:10
  A juror is in that position because they require you take an oath to follow the instructions of the judge.
• 3:42:17
  But if he decides, and that's the whole point of the jury. I mean, isn't this easy? This is stupid.
• 3:42:22
  People say, well, you're not gonna oath the judge. You gotta do what he says. Well, then we don't I don't need to be here,
• 3:42:28
  mister judge. If you're gonna make the decisions anyway, I'll just leave.
• 3:42:32
  Baloney.
• 3:42:35
  A juror has absolute authority
• 3:42:39
  to
• 3:42:40
  disregard
• 3:42:41
  the instructions of the judge if the juror sincerely believes in his heart of heart hearts that what the judge he's learned from
• 3:42:49
  contemplating that what the judge has commanded is unlawful in this case as applied.
• 3:42:54
  And there is no penalty in our law for a juror that does that. Never has been. God help us. If that ever happens, our common law tradition is gone.
• 3:43:04
  Because the foundation of our common law tradition is that 12 man jury, like Jesus Christ established.
• 3:43:10
  And every man must decide on the jury, must decide for himself,
• 3:43:15
  and no one can force him to.
• 3:43:18
  Sanction in any way is unlawful.
• 3:43:21
  Now who was it that said they wanted this jurisdiction? The defense attorney?
• 3:43:25
  Is that it?
• 3:43:26
  Unknown: Well, yeah, the defense attorney wanted him charged.
• 3:43:30
  Unknown: Because
• 3:43:31
  because he said that the she was guilty? Is that it?
• 3:43:36
  Unknown: Well, well, yeah, he was the he was the lone guy, a lone person. And, actually, they disclosed that it was a male. They shouldn't have done that.
• 3:43:44
  But
• 3:43:45
  Uh-huh. You know, they weren't supposed to identify him. But anyway
• 3:43:49
  Unknown: Well, you get you said, well, I just make the first principle on how to apply us up to people that know the principle, but that's it. And that's our law and always has been.
• 3:43:58
  And here's an important thing about being a jury juror. You're sworn.
• 3:44:03
  The word juror is a Latin word that means to be sworn,
• 3:44:08
  to be on your oath. Oath to do what?
• 3:44:11
  To do what is right
• 3:44:13
  once you've examined the evidence.
• 3:44:16
  And every one of the 12 that that
• 3:44:18
  well,
• 3:44:19
  Judas hang himself and replaced by an alternate juror, just like our alternate jurors are always there.
• 3:44:26
  Every one of them
• 3:44:29
  were murdered. Every one. 11 out of the 12 were murdered, and the one that wasn't murdered, John the Apostle, died at about age 100 in chain labor,
• 3:44:39
  slave labor in chains
• 3:44:41
  on the Isle Of Patmos working in a salt mine.
• 3:44:45
  But every one of them,
• 3:44:46
  none of them,
• 3:44:48
  chained their story in the face of death.
• 3:44:51
  Now does that prove that they were right? No. It doesn't.
• 3:44:54
  But it proves that they believed they were right. Absolutely
• 3:44:58
  proves
• 3:44:59
  that having witnessed the evidence with their eyes, their ears, and their hands for three years, it proved that they, really in their heart of hearts, believed they were right because nobody
• 3:45:08
  in the history of mankind
• 3:45:11
  has ever willingly died
• 3:45:13
  for what he believed was a lie. Never.
• 3:45:17
  That has never happened and it never will. There have been millions of people that have died for a lie that they thought was the truth. Yeah.
• 3:45:25
  But never has anybody willingly died for what he knew was a lie.
• 3:45:29
  And that goes a long way to give weight to the credibility of those 11 apostles that did die, and the one that was thrown and lived out his life in chains for the truth.
• 3:45:41
  That's evidence, friends. It's irrefutable.
• 3:45:44
  And that evident irrefutable.
• 3:45:46
  That evidence is for the truth of the Bible.
• 3:45:49
  That's the only way we know who Jesus Christ is and what he believed. There is no other way. And so that evidence,
• 3:45:58
  that evidence is everything.
• 3:46:00
  To be protected with our whole being. It is the mark of the Christian man that it doesn't add to it or take away from it with the traditions of Rome, with the traditions of Mormonism,
• 3:46:10
  with the Book of Mormon,
• 3:46:13
  with the present day prophets of the charismatics today,
• 3:46:16
  with the guru Maharaji,
• 3:46:18
  with some self proclaimed,
• 3:46:20
  I've got a revelation from God. No.
• 3:46:23
  There's the evidence friends. The trial is over. The book is closed and just like our common law jury, decision must be made upon the evidence
• 3:46:32
  that has been presented
• 3:46:35
  at trial. And the Bible presents that evidence. That's why we have the gospel records.
• 3:46:40
  Friends, it's all sewn up.
• 3:46:43
  I appeal to those whom God has chosen before the foundation of the world.
• 3:46:48
  I appeal to you because God says that
• 3:46:52
  he has given you the new birth and what is done before the foundation of the world, his mind shall never change. I don't know who you are, which ones, I just know I'm scattering seed
• 3:47:03
  and the conception will occur. That's kind of funny. And we talk about young men sowing their oats.
• 3:47:09
  That's what a Christian man does or he does only he does it in the right way. He sows his God's oats and we don't know where the good ground is. We don't know who are the elect. We just sow the seed. It's that simple. How do you do it? You give testimony. You give testimony of what you've seen and heard.
• 3:47:27
  And I for one, I for one don't argue with people that say, I've seen it with my own eyes. I may think they're not telling the truth like Bob did a while ago. I don't think that's true. Well, I saw it with my own eyes. You can take it or leave it, but I'm not here to argue with you about it. If I've seen it, I've seen it. You know, it's that simple. And we're are not to argue with people, my friends. This is not a game of logic. We are not Charlie Kirk.
• 3:47:52
  Charlie Kirk was out arguing this stuff. That wasn't winning anybody to the truth. What was it doing? It was strengthening maybe the truth and those that were already born from above.
• 3:48:02
  It But wasn't winning anybody because logic is not the seed of the word of god.
• 3:48:08
  Fact.
• 3:48:09
  Unknown: The fact You know, Brent. What?
• 3:48:12
  What? Well,
• 3:48:14
  you know, we're told by Jesus Christ
• 3:48:17
  words
• 3:48:18
  like,
• 3:48:19
  if they persecuted
• 3:48:20
  me, they're gonna persecute
• 3:48:22
  you. Uh-huh.
• 3:48:24
  You have to lose your life
• 3:48:26
  to gain it type of language. Okay? Yeah. We understand what this means. Mhmm. And so
• 3:48:34
  in
• 3:48:35
  one's experience
• 3:48:37
  here,
• 3:48:39
  again, many are called.
• 3:48:42
  So when you're called, you're called, in my opinion,
• 3:48:45
  you're called to the kingdom,
• 3:48:48
  the reality,
• 3:48:49
  a different kingdom than the world around us.
• 3:48:53
  So you're called to this.
• 3:48:55
  Mhmm. But
• 3:48:57
  then it's a dream. It's a fight. You might be persecuted.
• 3:49:02
  You may be murdered.
• 3:49:04
  You may go through
• 3:49:06
  a lot.
• 3:49:08
  But
• 3:49:09
  and this is warfare.
• 3:49:11
  So in warfare
• 3:49:13
  and this is spiritual warfare,
• 3:49:15
  if you're not trained by him
• 3:49:18
  and the heavenly father
• 3:49:20
  how to engage in this warfare,
• 3:49:24
  well, good luck.
• 3:49:25
  Because you might be okay, but you might not. But if you are trained by him, which is,
• 3:49:31
  in my opinion again, submitting
• 3:49:34
  to him,
• 3:49:35
  wanting to be humble, wanting to learn.
• 3:49:39
  Okay? Wanting you know, being open
• 3:49:41
  to
• 3:49:42
  his guidance
• 3:49:44
  And all
• 3:49:46
  our heavenly father
• 3:49:48
  has
• 3:49:49
  everything available
• 3:49:51
  to protect those that are his.
• 3:49:54
  I think
• 3:49:55
  that
• 3:49:57
  in many situations,
• 3:50:00
  the reason some people don't win,
• 3:50:03
  maybe lose their life,
• 3:50:05
  is because
• 3:50:07
  they they just didn't they didn't have the total protection
• 3:50:11
  available
• 3:50:12
  because of their own opinions
• 3:50:15
  and ways of doing things.
• 3:50:17
  So
• 3:50:19
  we just have to be
• 3:50:23
  I I spent
• 3:50:25
  a lot of some years
• 3:50:27
  Mhmm. Working with young children
• 3:50:30
  Unknown: Mhmm. And
• 3:50:31
  Unknown: and teaching
• 3:50:32
  some classes to five year olds and this kind of thing. Mhmm. But then also
• 3:50:37
  having children of my own and grandchildren,
• 3:50:41
  them in my house
• 3:50:43
  Mhmm. And being
• 3:50:45
  humble
• 3:50:46
  to
• 3:50:48
  see,
• 3:50:48
  to to learn.
• 3:50:50
  And
• 3:50:51
  it was always enlightening
• 3:50:54
  Mhmm. Because
• 3:50:56
  Mhmm. It's a
• 3:50:57
  it's a it's an image. It's a kite
• 3:51:01
  of how we're supposed to be with our heavenly father and our king, our messiah.
• 3:51:08
  Mhmm. And
• 3:51:10
  you can't
• 3:51:11
  I
• 3:51:12
  know you caught
• 3:51:14
  this lesson
• 3:51:16
  consistently.
• 3:51:17
  You
• 3:51:18
  can't do anything without him.
• 3:51:21
  Nothing.
• 3:51:23
  Nothing.
• 3:51:24
  I mean, you can think you're progressing,
• 3:51:26
  whatever, financially, state,
• 3:51:29
  nice this and that, but nothing you're not gonna if you're not
• 3:51:34
  submitted to him and being guided by him Mhmm.
• 3:51:40
  Well,
• 3:51:42
  you're
• 3:51:42
  you're
• 3:51:43
  second fiddle. You're you're not gonna get what you could get out of your experience.
• 3:51:49
  Unknown: Mhmm. Mhmm. No. I I
• 3:51:52
  agree. I have a friend that
• 3:51:54
  we're growing up. He was always
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  shooting guns, he'd come out to our place and
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  think he's 22, and he'd wanna go hunting dragonflies out the pond, you know.
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  See if we could you know, dragonflies dart around a lot. He'd try to shoot them with his rifle and we'd target practice and go rabbit hunting and squirrel hunting and
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  quail hunting. And well, grew up, he just he just addicted to guns and he ended up being a sheriff's deputy all his life up in a
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  larger place,
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  larger town.
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  And he's retired now and lived through it. But he told me after a number of years of being there,
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  he said, you know why
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  law enforcement officers get killed in ninety eight percent of the cases?
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  I said, why?
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  He said, because they're stupid.
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  Now, if you're around military people,
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  you find out too and you're around
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  veterans and you're a member of the armed forces, just in that environment, you learn that
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  they tell stories and you see things happen and just say, yeah, a lot of people get killed because they're stupid
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  or get wounded.
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  And if you're well trained and you just follow some simple you know, there was a fellow, what's his name? The one that became so famous, his name was
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  Lieutenant
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  Band of Brothers. Band of Brothers, right? Lieutenant Winters.
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  And
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  read his book. I've read some of his stuff. And he was with a friend and he kept saying to him, and they're in Europe, man, you're not keeping your head down. You're exposing yourself when you don't have to.
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  This dumb, you're gonna get hit. And he did. He got hit.
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  Why?
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  Stupid.
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  And that was
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  was Winters' conclusion.
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  So take it for what it's worth. So as Christian men and women, there are a lot that get hurt, get jailed, and all sorts of terrible things happen because they're not focused
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  on the rules. Now that doesn't mean that you won't get hurt in combat
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  and warfare.
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  A lot of people get hurt that haven't been stupid. I understand that. But why increase the opportunity?
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  Like John Wickliffe said, he translated the Bible. He gave it to 70 of his students there at Oxford. And he said, I want you to take these copies
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  and go out where people congregate,
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  crossroads and places like that, and read it aloud.
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  And whatever you do, do not seek a martyr's crown.
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  Do not seek a martyr's crown.
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  If you just read the bible and do what yours what Jesus Christ wants us to do, a martyr's crown will find you soon enough if that's what he wants.
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  But don't go looking for one. And that's why we say, just be wise about how we approach the enemy. Joe, a while ago, said, well, now wait a minute. What you're saying when good men knew nothing,
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  well, I didn't say do nothing. I said don't confront them head on. Don't do that. I'm telling you, Jesus Christ said don't
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  do that.
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  And then people wonder why people get hurt in the patriot community. Well, they don't know anything about the Bible. I haven't caught it. But I almost can't hold them at fault because no the people that are responsible for teaching these simple principles are not doing it. You gotta know something about your Bible, and you've gotta see it from the perspective that the spirit will enlighten you. Only the spirit can enlighten you to see it properly and understand what the purpose behind it. What's why is Jesus Christ saying these things?
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  Well, Doug, I'll leave it on that note.
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  And thank you all for listening. Appreciate you.
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  Some of you are diehards. Been here a long time. I didn't intend to stay here at all. I got a lot to do. But thank you for listening, and Lord willing, we'll see you next week.
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  Join us on Sundays for in church.
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  And Saturdays too, you can join us at that time. Look go to the website commonlawyer.com
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  Look up the different times there when you can join us and
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  and do that.
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  I'll be looking forward to talking to you. We'll see you, Doug.
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  Unknown: Yes, sir. Love you much.
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  Unknown: I appreciate you. Back at you, brother. We'll be talking. Bye.
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  Unknown: Okay. Bye.