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Embracing Youth: The New Era of Women Dating Younger · The Diva Details

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Welcome to the Diva Details. Welcome to the Diva Details.
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Let's dive in with Diva Mia and Diva Kat.
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Well hello diva Kat hello diva mia
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how are you today i'm great did you
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have a good weekend oh yes i was a good i love my weekend yeah good times huh
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yeah i live for summer i love summer summer's good yes yes so you know i wanted
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to talk a little bit about this thing that's been like kind of we mentioned
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a few times on the previous podcast about women dating younger,
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and you know i've made little kind
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of offhanded comments that maybe i need to go younger but there's been
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so many people that have talked to me about dating younger and why it's important
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to date someone that's younger so what do you think about that i'm all for it
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my husband did seven years younger than i am i know you married younger yeah
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and i met wonderful woman wealthy couple.
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Her husband also seven years younger than her. Really? Yes. Where'd you meet her?
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At the gym. At the gym? Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, I worked out with two years.
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I didn't know they were a couple. I worked out with them for the past seven
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years when the gym opened seven years ago by my house. Yeah.
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And they're a couple. Yeah. I think that dating younger is kind of interesting.
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And lately, it's been a lot of older women dating younger, not older men.
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My niece, they're about to get married. She's six years older than her fiancé. Really? Mm-hmm.
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Wow. Everybody seems to be going...
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And, you know, lately there's been a ton of movies. But you know what it is?
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Because us nowadays, as a woman, we take care of ourselves much better than the older days.
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You know what I think it is, actually? I think it's also related to money.
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Yeah. Because, no, because it used to be that the old rich guy would get divorced
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from his wife that was close in age, right?
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Right. Right around his 50s or 60s, and he would go and he would marry someone
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younger, right? Yes. And that's what they would do is it was their standard, you know, procedures.
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Oh, they went through their midlife crisis. Right.
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They ended up finding some young thing on the side and then they got divorced.
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And it was just a process and everybody would make fun and then they go buy their red convertible.
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Right. Right. So that was the thing. But lately, I think a lot of it has to
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do with the fact that women in our 40s and 50s and 60s, we have our own money.
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Well, the table is turning. The table is turned, and a professional woman in
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her 40s, 50s, and 60s, she wants to be happy, too.
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And maybe she—I don't think we were, you know, calling out men to get divorced.
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But there's been movies on it lately, that baby girl movie. Have you seen that?
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It's about a woman who cheats on her husband with a really young guy in his 20s.
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And she's in her 50s. Well, remember, that's a true story, that movie,
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How to Get Her Group Back. Yeah.
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How stellar—well, no, she wasn't cheating, though. But how Stella got her group
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back, she went with a much younger man.
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A much younger man. Like 15 years or 20 years. But that's based on a true story.
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Well, and then there's the family affair.
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There's the idea of you, which is somebody dating super younger.
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There's all these movies. Lately, Hollywood has taken notice.
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They are. And you mentioned Madonna and her boyfriend. I don't know if they're
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married. Cher and her boyfriend.
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But they're all younger as well. And, I mean, these are significant anywhere
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from 5 to 30 years younger or more.
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Yeah. But, you know, some people...
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We don't talk old. Remember we met Renee on the cruise? She said,
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we're not talking. Yeah, Renee dates younger, too.
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That's what I'm saying. She's 73, and she only dates. She'll date 20, 30 years longer.
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So, I mean, because she can.
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He's only 53 years old, and he is a two.
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Renee's boyfriend. Really? Yeah. Wow. I follow her. Wow, that's awesome.
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But you know what? It's energy. It's energy. It's energy.
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And it does matter how you look as well. but let's
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kind of like focus on you know i think a lot of it is that
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you know in our 50s and 60s we're freaking confident oh
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yeah we know what we want financial secure
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we're financially secure we know we want physically we know what we want sexually
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we know what we want in a partner yes and we're empowered and when we were younger
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i think a lot of women also settled because they just we were pushed into marriage
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a lot by our families not to say i mean it's true right that's There was society,
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oh, you need to get married or you're going to get too old to have babies. There was that push.
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Now we're in our 50s, 40, 50, 60s, and some of us, although you waited and you
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married younger anyway.
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Well, my mom was going to marry me off at 22. I fled the country.
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You did? Oh, yeah. I had to show you the guy that I was supposed to marry him.
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I'm so glad you did because you got an awesome man.
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No, I had to show you the guy that I was supposed to marry him because of family arranging and stuff.
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He looked like his grandpa with the belly up. Yeah, his belly bigger than, I don't know.
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He looked like he's carrying a nine-month-old baby.
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That's terrible. You know when you're pregnant right before you give birth?
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Yeah, that's terrible. I said, oh my God, thank God, thank Buddha,
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thanks everybody. Yeah.
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I'm glad I made my own decision. Wow. Yes. You know, I think in our 20s and
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30s, we're still exploring, we're still learning.
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Yeah, I mean, there is a lot of successful couples, you know.
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My parents are arranging marriage, but there is a lot, I have to say. But it's not for me.
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The energy does not match. I'm attached to younger energy.
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People still want to go do stuff, pick our bed, be spontaneous,
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let's drive to the beach. You're the one to call. Right. Yes.
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Well, I think in our 20s and 30s, we're more chaotic and we're focused on growing
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and passion and following our dreams and things like that.
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And whether we get married or not in our 20s
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and 30s some of us do some of us don't right but we're
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still it's different now in our 40s we
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might be rebuilding after divorce or in our
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50s rebuilding after divorce 40s 50s 60s and
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we're more intentional there is when we're
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dating i think we're looking for emotional intelligence and i
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don't think age matters as long as they're emotionally intelligent
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no it doesn't matter anymore and they have to be stable yes
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you know sometimes you date somebody in their 50s and
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they've gone through two or three divorces and they're kind of broken you
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don't want that and you don't want that so sometimes getting a guy
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in their 30s or 40s you know if
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you're in your 50s or 60s might be a fun thing yeah my
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niece my niece following my footsteps she dating
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him right after med school yeah now they're
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getting married and he's well he's six years younger six years
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younger well i think that in your 50s we're
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self-assured yeah i think so i think we're confident i
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think we're looking more for connection and values than.
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Necessarily age yes so it's interesting i might end up dating younger diva Kat
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and they might have to get me married off at a wedding you're my my maid of
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honor remember you know i'm all for it there is no stopping right now we go
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to bora bora for diva me a bachelor party.
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Oh, bachelorette. A bachelorette party. Bachelorette party.
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So I think you're right. I think it's energy and vitality. I think some people
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have it and some people don't.
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Younger men will often...
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They bring a perspective of spontaneity and youth that, I'm sorry to say,
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guys, in your 50s and 60s, you're kind of, you're slow.
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And you may not have the energy of a 30 or a 40-year-old. And I get it.
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But women in their 50s and 60s, they still have a lot of energy. They do.
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Especially if they keep themselves in decent shape. They just want to go out
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and dance and have fun and live.
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A lot of times where the kids are off to school or about to be off to school,
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we've sacrificed a lot of our lives to take care of other people.
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And now it's time to take care of us.
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You don't want a guy who just sit there and watch Netflix. No. Friday night. No.
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And talk about weather. And I will say most of the divorced women I have met
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are much happier single than they were married because we felt like,
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especially Generation Xers.
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Yeah. We felt like all we did was take care of our husbands and worked our butts
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to the bone and took care of the family and the finances and the children, and it was exhausting.
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Took care of the house alone. Took care of everything. So now we find ourselves
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single, and we're like, wait a second.
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I don't have to be a slave to a man that abuses me. You know what I mean? Yeah.
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That I get to have fun with a man that respects me, wants to play and have some good time. Yeah.
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I don't plan to hide Wasubia again.
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Yeah. You know, and then 70 years old guy, nothing to do that. Oh, no, no.
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Oh, don't lie. It's 70 years old, like Harrison Ford.
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Yes. You know, it's funny. I married a couple of years younger too.
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Mine was a couple of years younger than me.
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And he ended up with a woman that was much older than me. You see? See, it does happen.
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So the reality is, is that a lot of people are going way older in their selection process. Right.
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And the one thing you find is that,
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When you date a younger man, they are going to come at you as an equal if they're emotionally mature.
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And they're not going to try to fix you because you're going to be a strong,
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confident woman. They're not even going to try to fix you.
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So it might be a better match than dating someone else.
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I will say when I was younger, I dated a lot of older guys though.
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Yeah, I did too. I did too. And it was a thing because the thing is,
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is we're looking for a certain level of maturity yeah older
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was mature enough for us but now the older
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is kind of dry and boring am I wrong yeah I
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did and I'm glad I didn't marry I did not marry
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the older guy because I probably enough divorce because the energy just not
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match it doesn't match and I will say sexually oh my god no I it's it's a different
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thing it's a different ballpark it's a whole new different thing yeah so So
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when they're in their mid-50s and up,
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and some guys even in their mid-40s,
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a lot of them aren't in the best of shape anymore.
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Right. And when they get out of shape, good luck.
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Right. Think of it as nowadays, there is no more. You move up from fast food to fine dining.
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You take your time and you enjoy every bite of it.
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You don't want those fast stuff, no. Yeah. Those days are gone.
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The other thing I think is women are much more into weightlifting now.
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Oh, yeah. So their bodies, they're staying youthful longer.
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And women in the past, they weren't really into weightlifting.
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I mean, I don't think that really took hold until like the 90s. Oh, yeah, the skinny.
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They were in skinny. And what would happen is by the time women got into their
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50s and 60s, they started to get osteoporosis.
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They got sick. They got sick. They got arthritis. They were as sick as the men
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are in their 50s and 60s now because I see a lot of men.
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They've got a lot of health conditions, too.
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Yeah, I think redlifting and keeping up with your physically,
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mentally, that's the key. What was that old movie, Mrs.
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Robertson? Mrs. Robertson. I'm talking about Mrs. Robertson.
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Yeah, where she dated. The graduate.
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That was really young, though. That was a little scary young.
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No, that's scary young. He's high school. Yeah.
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That's not good we're not talking about robbing the cradle or we're
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not talking here about you know no jailbait no jailbait
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we are not mrs robertson no jailbait
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so the other thing is a lot
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of people are very comfortable going eight to ten years younger oh
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yeah and i think that it depends on
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who you are like our friend that's the the bodybuilder
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she's 73 she's dating 53 20 years
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younger but she's got the spirit honestly guys of a
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30 year old so she does she is
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my idol all the way amazing her spirit her attitude the way she lives it's amazing
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and it's just a different life stage for us right yes yes yes society i think
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in the past we got more criticism for dating younger. Mm-hmm.
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But now I think it's kind of hip. I think it's shifting.
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Because we're empowered. We are empowered. And I do believe that,
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If it's more about matching energy and matching person than matching ages. Yeah.
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And it may be funny, but the reality is then if you date younger,
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you're going to have a good sex life for a lot longer.
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Funny you say that. I just came back from this yoga retreat.
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Yeah. And the night after, we go out to the rooftop bar.
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First, I met two amazing women. Yeah. One is 58, one is 60. Yeah.
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And their boyfriend is only 50 years old. And they're amazing. Yeah.
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Amazing. Good-looking woman. Taking care of themselves. Very spiritual.
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Very into outdoor weightlifting. Taking care of hormones.
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Taking care of themselves. Oh, yeah. And their boyfriend, I think,
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got to be like 50, 52 tops. And they were good-looking?
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They are hot. Okay. But were they emotionally mature? Oh, my God,
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yes. So it was a match? Yes. is their energy together.
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They don't, they bite together. They practice yoga together.
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They went for a hike together.
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Even when they sit down talking to each other, looking at each other,
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it's just amazing energy.
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I think that's part of the trick too, is that you have to find somebody that's
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an emotional match because if they're not emotionally matched with you, it's not going to work.
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So just saying, oh, I want to date younger and just go and finding somebody
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20 years younger, that's not going to work. They have to be emotionally mature.
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The other thing you need to worry about, and I was talking to someone about
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this today is if I'm 50 and I want to date somebody in their 30s,
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I need to make sure they don't want to have any more kids.
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Some guys don't want to have kids these days, which is fine.
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But if they're in their mid-30s and they're wanting to find someone to have
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one or two more kids, I'm not going to have any more children.
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I mean, I could, but I don't want to because that would make me 70 by the time
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they're going to college.
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Oh my God, no. So I think I'm kind of done with the having kids,
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but you need to find someone that's okay with that.
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So just make sure they realize that, yeah, hey, if you're with me and this is
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going to be a relationship, we're not having children.
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But some young guy, they don't want children. They just want all of you to themselves.
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That's true, but sometimes that changes. Just like women have a biological clock,
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sometimes men do too. So just, and a lot of times by the time they're 35,
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they've already had a few kids and they don't want any more. That's true.
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So there's that. And especially since like me, I waited until I,
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my first child was 37. Yeah.
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So I was like, you know, they might have kids the same age as me and they're 35.
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Who knows? You know, so anyway, but the question you have to ask yourself, are you dating people?
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With confidence or are you dating because you're afraid to be older and i i
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will date at any age honestly i don't really care age is not a thing to me it
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is energy for me but the more i've been dating older the less i'm enjoying it
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and i found that a lot of the older ones are kind of.
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Damaged to the point that i have to fix
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them and i don't want to fix anybody yeah i
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need somebody that's emotionally healthy that's not
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insecure and that is comfortable
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in their skin and i'm telling you something happens between
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55 and 65 in the
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men in men and they shift into this
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depression sad state that they're
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not the happiest in their skin anymore i see
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and maybe it's because their libido is going down
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their testosterone is going down maybe
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it's the the men menopause for
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men yeah menopause we'll call it menopause menopause
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that they're going through well the midnight crisis can happen anytime between
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40 and 60 yeah but i think usually happens between 40 and 50 that's when they're
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like oh i feel like i'm getting older and i need to change stuff but like Between
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55 and 65, that's when they're getting ready to retire.
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But what also happens to men is they can't perform the same they used to.
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Their testosterone goes down.
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They're getting beat out by younger men.
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And women are just getting started. I mean, we're like, our libido is going
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up and theirs is going down.
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I'm telling you, though, I think right now when I look at the younger and the
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girls in the 30s versus the women in the 50s, I think the 50 women,
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it's more attractive to me, for me anyway. Well, yeah, because we're confident.
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Right. And the women in their 30s, they're still finding themselves. They're secure.
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Yeah, we're more secure in who we are. Not all, but a lot of times.
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So a lot of times we may be more aligned with somebody in their late 30s,
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early 40s, in our 50s and 60s.
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So it's an alignment issue too.
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And one of the other things is I have found is that,
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When a man is getting ready in their 50s and 60s to retire, their careers are going down.
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I see. And a lot of times ours are flourishing.
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Right. And then there's a power struggle. Mm-hmm.
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And they may get envious of your growth into your career because you have a
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lot of energy in your 50s and 60s, women do. Yeah.
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Because we've gone through menopause and we may have already gone,
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some have, some haven't.
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And menopause is once it's done, we feel pretty inspired. Yeah.
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You know? And children are older. Children are older, so we don't have to spread
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our energy so much between multiple different things. We can focus on one thing.
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And remember, ladies, when we're focused on one or two things, we're powerful.
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I think a lot of the problems women have is that we do everything for everyone,
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and we split our energy. But when we can come back to ourselves and to our center,
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my gosh, we have so much more energy, and we're so much more powerful.
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All right. Application open, guys.
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Applications are open. Go look at those older women.
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Diva Mia is going for younger. Oh, I don't know about that yet, but I'm open.
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But the question is, do you think that younger men are looking for a forever
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partner or just a plaything?
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Because I will say I've gotten a lot of younger men on dating apps in their 20s even, 26, 27.
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I'm like, dude, I could be your mom. but anyway in their
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20s that have propositioned me and it
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was not for a forever partner proposition they just wanted
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they wanted a a play thing if
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you will and one guy even sent me a list of reasons why they date older really
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and it's one of it was like they know what they want in bed they're sexually
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mature and then they'll also do your laundry oh my god and they'll make you a sandwich after.
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Did you really? Yeah, it was so funny. It was adorable. But yeah,
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I've gotten a lot, a lot. And I, a lot.
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And there's one guy that was like 30. And he says, I only date women that are 45 and up.
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He says, they just know what they want. And they know how they want it.
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Wow. And they know how to ask for it.
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I mean, I mean, that's what our podcast has been about, right?
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Telling people that you need to be self-confident, you need to be empowered.
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And there you have it. The table really had turned.
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Normally, it's the other way around. A guy go for a younger woman. I know.
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Well, here's the other thing, if we think about it, not to be a little too,
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but women tend to live longer than men.
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That's true. It's true. So if you're in your 50s and 60s and you're looking
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for a forever partner that you want to live with for the rest of your life,
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If you get someone 10 years younger than you, you may live your lives together forever.
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If you get someone older than you, you might end up taking care of them.
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You're either going to take care of them or they're going to die earlier than
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you. And then you're going to have to find somebody again in your 70s. That's true.
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And that hurts, right? Yeah. Like our bodybuilder friend, I can totally see her living into 100.
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I think so, too. I think so, too. Her energy, vitality, she's going to live into 100.
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So i'm all for it i'm all about i'm
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following with a 53 year old man who's probably gonna
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die in his 80s yeah so they'll die
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around the same time now i don't want to get too grotesque about death
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etc but that's a reality so if you're dating younger
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you're more likely to have a true forever partner
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well sure yes i think
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but our friend i think
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everybody should should look at her she is my idol
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she's amazing she is amazing i don't care now if you're a younger man and you're
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wanting to date an older woman i will say we require a certain level of respect
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that you're not going to give to a younger woman so if you come into it like
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you're dating a 30 something.
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And you're rude or you don't open car doors or you don't take us out or you don't respect.
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You're not gonna you're not gonna be able to match a woman's
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energy in her 50s because she's going to have a certain level of respect
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that she's going to require yeah you know
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especially if you're just a boy toy like one of those pretty
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boys that doesn't have you know hasn't got a successful career
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and hasn't made it for himself and you're dating an older
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woman because you want to be taken care of because there are those wow
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the boy toys you know how there used to be women that
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just looked for men so that they could pay for their stuff now
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it's switched and now we have a lot of men that
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are it's reverse where they want to be taken care
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of financially and they're looking
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for a woman to financially take care of them they're good-looking men so there
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are i they're arm candy from women yeah yeah yeah yeah so that happens too but
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you better make sure you step up in the respect in the chivalrous way yeah you
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have to especially if you want to date the successful older woman. It's true.
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Now, the other thing you have to think of is someone in their 50s and 60s is going to love to travel.
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Yeah. And if a man is mid-career, I don't know how much they can travel. No.
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I don't think how much they could afford there's a question well and
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it depends every guy's going to be different right so when you're
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looking younger and you know my i
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think my dating app preference was set to 45 to
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55 i think if i ever go
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back on the dating apps i would have to adjust it to go
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maybe go 35 oh that scares me
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a little i will say right 35 wow they
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would be able to keep up with me then though that would be nice
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so i i do think that
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your value doesn't decline as we get older i
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think it compounds i think we're like compound money we're
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like interest earned i think women as you get older you all of these elements
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come to be together and we just your confidence you're secure it just go up
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the roof it does and you just take care of yourself that's it it does I think
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the ability to focus just on one man helps as well.
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Because at this age, your kid's done. You know, it's just you.
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You take care of you now. Yeah. And I do think respect is huge. Yeah.
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And one of the things you'll get from a younger man, hopefully,
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is more respect. Because I will say some of the older men aren't so respectful.
24:33
No? Some are respectful, like they'll be chivalrous, but they're not so respectful
24:37
when it comes to your emotions.
24:39
I see. So if we can find a man that's respectful, I'd date younger. I know.
24:45
I would consider it for sure. I think age is only numbers.
24:50
Now, why do you think it is that so many people lately are lying about their age? I think insecure.
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You think so? Mm-hmm. I dated a guy that lied about his age.
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Yeah? Yeah, he said he was seven years younger than he was.
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Hmm. So I don't know why people do lie about their age. Maybe because they feel they should be that age.
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Like me, I'm 60. I don't feel I'm 60. I should be 50.
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Think well and you look young too yeah you
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look you look like you could be 50 you think so yeah i
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know so the thing is how you feel maybe that's
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how they feel maybe maybe he didn't feel seven
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years older yeah you know i mean i
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i don't really care about my age as long as i feel good and i look
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good yeah i mean look at look at renee she's publishing
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everywhere she's 73 she doesn't care and she
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looks like she's 35 or 40 so yeah she
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she's hot yeah i think
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diva cat wants to date yeah diva renee oh i'm all for it her muscle her ab oh
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yeah her butt she's got a nice butt anyway i think that men after men turn 60
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i think they feel like they're too old.
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And they come across as not being excited or active,
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especially virile in the bedroom.
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Yeah, maybe they're ready to just sit in the couch, watch Netflix.
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Yeah, and some of them date younger women, but a lot of them lately,
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a lot of younger women don't want to date that older.
26:18
No, they don't. Who wants to do that? Do you?
26:21
No. See? You want to just sit home, watch Netflix, and talk about weather?
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I will say most of the younger women that are dating older, like older than five years.
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Are dating them because they want to be kept.
26:35
Ah, I see. Now the question is, on the younger men, how many of the younger
26:40
men are dating older women because they want to be kept? I don't think it's the same.
26:44
I think younger men are dating older women for the maturity level.
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And honestly, we're, I think, more focused in our 50s and less chaotic mentally.
26:55
Maybe we should interview older guys. I think we should. Right?
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A really good-looking one for me. Yeah.
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We need to. Maybe get like two or three good-looking younger men that are really good-looking.
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Make it look like the street talk. Remember that show, Street Talk?
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You just come up to people on the street and start asking questions.
27:18
That might have to be a podcast, too. Yeah.
27:21
I remember that show. You know, I think society's standards are changing.
27:26
I think that the dogma related to the older women and younger men, it's just different.
27:33
It has been a lot of movies making about older women with younger men, too, though.
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I think the movies are huge. Yeah. I quite like it. Yeah.
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Yeah. I think that people, even when they're older, should always tell their
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age, though. They shouldn't lie about it. I think they should be truthful.
27:53
Yeah. I don't know why people have to lie about their age. Women have been doing it for a while, though.
27:57
They do? I had a friend that would never say her age. Every birthday, she was 29 years old.
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And it was so funny, because I went back and saw her on a trip I went on, and...
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I said to her, I go, well, you're like way younger than me anyway.
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And she's like, I'm like four years younger than you.
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We're like the same generation. I was like, well, I don't know.
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You've been 29 every year for like the past 15 years.
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Okay, we started with my 29th birthday. Again. Again.
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But women have been so, so scared of their age. And I don't think it matters
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to women as much, especially if you look young.
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I don't know. It's kind of a fun thing to be told, because I am told this a
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lot. You don't look that old.
28:40
I get told that a lot. And so people are like, oh my gosh, you look like you're
28:44
in, I would have said mid-30s to early 40s is what people tell me. Yeah.
28:48
It's energy, but I also look younger. Yeah. So that helps too.
28:53
Yeah. You know, all the day people wear like tons of makeup and I think that makes you look old.
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I barely wear makeup. Now because of bare face, you know, just a little recourse,
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I think it very, making you very young, especially your real skin, you know? Yeah.
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That's why you look very young. Yeah. Because you rarely wear.
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I very rarely wear makeup.
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Yeah. I think that people that lie about their age, there's something underlying as well.
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Insecure. I think they're also manipulating you.
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They do. I do. I think they're just dishonest people. And when they lie about
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that, they're going to lie about everything else.
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Maybe. And how are you going to ever get that trust back? If you lie to somebody
29:29
about your age in the future, how are you ever going to get that trust back?
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What are you going to do? Six months into a relationship, tell them they're the true age?
29:37
Shouldn't you know it's like by the way i'm not 52 i'm 62
29:40
yeah you can't do that because that's
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the first thing i think of if they're lying about their age what else are they
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lying about right that's true leaving the
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line so now let's discuss okay diva
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mia is thinking about dating younger after this conversation go
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for it now what do i need to do and
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what do you need to do as a listener if you want
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to date younger in order to get yourself in
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a better position to date younger you just
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have to i don't think you need to do anything else i
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think personally i need to mentally prepare for it because i i'm gonna ask myself
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am i drawn to their energy or what am i specifically looking for in a younger
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man because honestly up until this point i thought I was going to date somebody
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maybe within two to three years of my age either way.
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But if I'm going to go significantly younger, I'm going to say,
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well, look, I'm going to have to be more spontaneous myself.
30:38
Right. And I'm not very spontaneous. You know me. I'm a planner. Right.
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And do I have the mindset to match the energy of some man that's younger?
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Yeah. That's another thing. Are you looking for a long-term relationship?
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I'm always looking for a long-term relationship.
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I don't do one-night stands. I don't do fly-by-night dating.
30:59
And I've also found that if someone gives me red flags, which I'm very proud
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of now, if somebody gives me red flags within the first week or two, I just let them go.
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Right. I used to give them multiple opportunities.
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But now I've realized that the red flags, if they're there in the very beginning,
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they're going to be there forever.
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So I don't even want to waste more than a week or two. So are the younger men,
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are they going to give me less red flags? That might be a thing as well.
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Yeah. Are they in it for sure?
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Are they just in it to have fun, to date?
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Because I know a lot of people are actually addicted to dating. Yeah.
31:39
Yes. I have found that there's so much gameplay on the dating apps and people
31:42
have such a huge roster of people lined up in their dating pool that they just
31:48
call on whoever they want.
31:50
Yeah. So you could be dating, talking to a guy for a week and you're supposed
31:53
to go out, but then they ghost you and then you find out that they're talking
31:57
to five other women and that they they'll get back to you in a week or two.
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And I don't play that game. No. So as soon as somebody goes to me, I'm just done.
32:04
Yeah. So, but will the younger group be more in tuned, especially the guys that
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are looking to date older?
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They should be prepared themselves to date older women. Older women don't like
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to play around with multiple men. No, no, no. We don't play that game.
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So I think for the guy who are willing to date older women, they might already
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prepare themselves, just like you prepare yourself for the younger guy. Maybe.
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Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I think you need to determine your motivation.
32:33
I think you're right. I think you need to say, hey, am I at a stage in my life
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where I'm just dating multiple men or am I at a stage where...
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I want a relationship and I only do relationships. I've never done,
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I don't do a roster of guys. Like I'm dating one guy and I'm just dating that
32:50
guy. And I know people say that's crazy.
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And they say, well, some people say that's crazy. Some people say you can't
32:56
be exclusive with a guy until they're, you're engaged or whatever,
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or you can't be exclusive with a guy until you guys have formally said it. But here's my thing.
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If I'm, if I'm dating a guy and I've gone on two or three dates with a guy,
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I'm not dating a bunch of other guys. I see.
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First date, yes. I might have two or three first date in a week. Who knows?
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I haven't done that for a while because I'm not seriously dating right now.
33:22
But there was a time where I would have first dates and I'd have two or three
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of them lined up for a week.
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And then if I liked someone, then I would go on a second date.
33:29
But the problem was I wasn't liking anyone.
33:32
And that's fine. But if I've gone out two or three times and I think by the
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third date, you kind of start to have a connection with someone.
33:39
Otherwise, why are you still going out with them?
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Yeah, you know, yeah. So by the third date, if I've gone on three or four dates,
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I'm just dating them. I don't need to play the field, per se. Right.
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So if they are not the right fit, I can let them go quickly.
33:55
So younger men, I don't know if that's the same mindset for younger men.
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It might be. We're going to have to try it out. We're going to have to try it
34:03
out. I can't speak to the younger men.
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I will say one of the things that I do love is confidence in a man.
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And something about younger men in their 30s, late 30s and early 40s,
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they're pretty darn confident.
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The late, the early 40s. About everything.
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Yes. They're confident about how they look. Mm-hmm. They're confident about
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their bedroom performance.
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Mm-hmm. They're confident about, typically they're confident financially too.
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If they're going to be on my level, they're going to have to be anyway.
34:30
Yeah. They try stoning still up, not low yet. Yeah. So they don't have to lie about their age. Yes.
34:36
You know? So they shouldn't lie about their age, but yeah, so they're still
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spry, which gives me another solid 20-plus years if I go for somebody in their
34:47
early 40s or late 30s. Yeah.
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Before they have to have supplemental pharmaceuticals.
34:56
That could happen. You know that, right? Guy believes in science.
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Yeah. Yeah, I think you should go for it. I'm telling you. Yeah.
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You know, and it's nice to be desired by a younger man. I will say that's got to be interesting.
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Go for it. Go for it? Mm-hmm. I think a younger man will help you flourish.
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Mm-hmm. And hopefully be supportive of you. It's going to make yourself glowing. Oh, no.
35:23
Diva Kat wants me to walk in here glowing, and then she'll know.
35:26
Yeah, I walked in. I'll know.
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So if you're wanting to date a younger man, you just need to make sure your
35:32
body's prepared for it, too.
35:34
That's another thing. You cannot be out of shape.
35:38
For sure. You're going to have to be in great physical condition and mental condition.
35:43
Now, I think mentally we can all day long show up a lot of younger women.
35:48
Now, it's not a competition, but, you know, you need to honor you.
35:52
But physically, you're going to have to be in the same shape as a younger woman. For sure.
35:56
So don't think that, oh, you're going to date younger guys and you can just
36:00
let yourself go. No, you've got to be in great shape. You've got to be stylish.
36:04
You've got to be emotionally intelligent and very vibrant. like our friend is.
36:09
I mean, you can be resistible at any age as long as you're vibrant.
36:13
Right. And lively. Yes.
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And I think that not all younger men are mature enough to date us.
36:21
No. You have to be very selective when you go younger.
36:24
Yeah, for sure. Because some young men have very mature, it depends how maturely
36:29
they are, you know? Yeah.
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They could be 30-something, but they already accomplished a lot of things.
36:35
Like an old soul. Right, right, right. I love that. Yeah.
36:38
An old soul is like somebody that's emotionally intelligent. They're respectful.
36:43
They might even have shared values. Yeah.
36:46
Not just looking at your hotness, just shared values at what you value most,
36:50
some of your core values. Yes. Yeah.
36:54
They're pretty much set, I think. I do think you need to have a boundary up
36:58
there because there's a lot of young men that have fetishes and older women now.
37:02
Yes, for sure. It's like a mama complex. Yeah, I think you have to make sure,
37:06
too, though, right? Are they going to be good with your children?
37:09
Yes. You know what I mean? Are they going to be good with your children?
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Are they going to respect you or is this just something to get their rocks off
37:15
because they have a fetish?
37:16
Right. Or do they still want more kids?
37:19
The kids thing is huge. Yeah. Because you don't want to, you also don't want
37:23
to pull somebody out of the dating pool that wants more children when you can't have them.
37:28
So let's talk about where you find these younger men. I don't know.
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So I think. Spoke game maybe?
37:35
I'm not going that young.
37:40
It's it's probably not going to be friends of friends
37:43
because i think a lot of times in our 50s and 60s
37:46
we have friends that are in our 50s and 60s i don't 60 yeah i don't have any
37:50
friends that are more than 10 years older or 10 years younger than me me either
37:54
except for our renee she's 20 years older than over 20 years older than me but
37:59
well the other friend she's 50 and Well, she's the same age, yeah.
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But most of my friend, though, is a lot younger.
38:07
Well, that's because you have a young spirit, though. Yeah, like my yoga guru. Yeah.
38:11
I think I'm the same age with her mom, a couple of them. Yeah.
38:15
They're in their 30s. Okay. Yeah. So you might know some younger men that you can set me up with.
38:21
Now my head is spinning. Huh.
38:24
Somebody that's, I think 35 would be my lowest. I don't think I would want to
38:28
go more than 15 years or so underneath my age. Mm-hmm. So.
38:33
I don't love, I don't mean, it has to be somebody in my yoga circle.
38:38
No, it has to be somebody emotionally mature and somebody that's financially stable.
38:43
I'm not going to financially support a man ever again either.
38:46
That's the thing is, ladies, when you're in your 50s and 60s,
38:49
and if you date somebody too young, you might be financially supporting them.
38:54
And I mean, if you want to do that, that's fine. I just don't want to do that ever.
38:58
Yeah, because some of them are just looking for sugar mama.
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A lot of them are looking for sugar mama. So they either have a fetish or they're
39:05
looking for a sugar mama. I will say I went to Cabo one time.
39:08
And went to a really high-end resort, and there were these older women,
39:12
and I'm talking full-on white hair, 70-something, and they would have eye candy
39:20
easily in their 40s on their arms.
39:23
See? Oh, my God. And it was because those men wanted a sugar mama,
39:28
and they knew these women had money, and they would be completely taken care
39:32
of, and when the woman passed, they would collect it all.
39:35
You know, women used to do that with men.
39:38
They would go marry a really old guy that was 10 years away from death or less.
39:42
Remember Ann Annacole Smith?
39:44
And they would marry older, and then the older person would pass away,
39:48
and then they would collect a fortune.
39:51
In Anna's case, I think she really loved him. It can be. And I'm not saying
39:56
that you can't love older.
39:59
But there is a, you know, I don't know if I could date somebody 50 years older
40:03
than me because they'd be one foot in the grave, you know what I mean, or 30 years older.
40:07
It's so funny you say that. Our new friend that I just met, he called her my mama.
40:12
Yeah? Mm-hmm. She's seven years older than her.
40:15
I mean, than him. Seven years is not enough to call somebody your mama.
40:19
But she always called her mama.
40:22
I mean, he always called her mama. And the thing is, she's already married,
40:26
two kids, two girl kids, and he didn't want any more kids.
40:28
They've been together for 25 years already.
40:31
Yeah, they met each other when she's in her 40s, and he's only 32, 33. Well, that's good.
40:38
So there's different platforms that you can find these older men or these younger
40:44
men on. There is platforms? There are.
40:46
Well, most of the guys that were younger that wanted to date me were on Bumble.
40:50
Oh, not a Bumble or Hinge. Bumble or Hinge, yeah.
40:53
Yes, yes. And that app called Date Your Age, where you're dating people right around your age group.
40:59
But if you're looking to go younger, Bumble or Hinge or OkCupid, you can set your age.
41:06
I mean, you can even set your age on Facebook dating.
41:08
So if you want to date younger, that's the way to go.
41:12
I heard a lot about Match.com, too.
41:14
I don't like Match.com. I did not like Match.com. My best friend,
41:18
Mary, his wife, they found each other on Match.com.
41:22
Well, here's the thing. On Match.com, I wasn't setting a younger age.
41:27
Remember, I was only doing 45 to 55.
41:29
But if I'm going to go down to 35, maybe. I don't know. Might just go for the real deal. Yes.
41:34
Just make sure they don't look for a sugar mama. Yeah.
41:38
And there's also age gap-friendly platforms like Age Match, so you can match
41:42
specific or elite singles.
41:44
Wow. And then the gym is always a good place to meet them too,
41:49
I think. I think the gym, happy hours.
41:52
So, yeah, I think you can meet them at gyms or even at conferences.
41:57
There are single men at conferences. I've never picked up a guy from a conference, but never say never.
42:03
I mean, it might be a fun way to go because then you have similar interests too. A yoga retreat.
42:07
Or a wellness retreat. A wellness retreat.
42:10
Yeah. Were there any single ladies picking up men at the wellness retreat?
42:14
Uh i know it was 2 000 people there although i must say if i went to a yoga
42:18
retreat i would probably expect most of the men to be gay that weren't married
42:22
already really yeah if it's a yoga retreat and a guy is there and he's not married
42:29
and he's single i'm most likely to be gay,
42:33
I follow two, you know, I'm very passionate about yoga.
42:38
So I follow two high-performance professional yoga.
42:42
One, I only go with Johnny Cass, Johnny Keys, and other one, Travis Elliott.
42:48
They're both hot and they're both straight guy. Yeah. Well, that can be.
42:53
I'm just saying I would say hit or miss.
42:56
It's not where I would go to find a single man is at a yoga retreat.
43:00
Oh, I see. I think travel clubs could attract, like you could go on a singles
43:03
cruise. They have this adventure cruise.
43:06
Oh, there's adventure groups now. Have you seen those?
43:09
Like everywhere they have adventure groups where you can go and you can go snorkeling,
43:13
you can go surfing and paddleboarding.
43:15
And you go on these adventure groups, and that's a great way to find men.
43:19
And they're probably high-vibing men, and they might appreciate older women. Who knows?
43:24
That's so true. So way back when, when I was still in corporate world,
43:28
right? So we have this girl from Australia. We hired her. She's in marketing.
43:32
So after that, we're just talking. Hey, what are you thinking? She's from New Zealand.
43:37
And she says, I'm going to come to America, marry American cowboy.
43:42
Oh, wow. She signed up for those events.
43:45
She met her husband. Really? And he's younger.
43:49
You know, it's so funny. I had a friend last night send me the picture of somebody from New Zealand.
43:54
And then they called me because they were at a bar.
43:57
And then they had him talk to me he was really cute New Zealand
44:01
it's New Zealand Australia I think you need to adventure out yeah I think that
44:07
younger men may be more flexible as well at you know the requirements because
44:12
I think when you get somebody older they're more set in their ways yeah I think
44:18
your energy you go for younger men because you still like to do stuff you like.
44:23
You know, like a range. Let's go to the beach.
44:26
Let's pack up. Let's go for a hike without like... I like to go hiking. Yes.
44:30
You know what I mean? Yeah. I would say I do want somebody that's more active.
44:33
And I think a lot of men our age want to stay home and sit on the couch and not do much.
44:41
And I did date a guy that was 53 that was very active.
44:45
But he's very close to my age, right? But he had been active
44:48
and he'd been a bachelor for a long time so i
44:52
would say that i can date
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someone my age but it's going to be the unique individual that
44:58
can keep up with me for sure i would vote for
45:00
travel group order you think i need to go on like a singles cruise not a single
45:05
cruise like you know i went to an adventure thing in town in town yeah because
45:10
then you meet people locally too right you know there's also meetup And Meetup
45:15
has different singles groups based on age.
45:18
And, like, there's a Meetup in our area that's for 35 to 60.
45:23
Yeah. So I can meet people from 35 and up then. Mm-hmm. I think at 35,
45:29
we're less likely to find people that still want to have kids.
45:31
Right. If you like dancing, you could go on this country light cruise dance with Renee.
45:36
Ah. I could do that in November. Yeah. Yeah.
45:41
You know? You know, I will talk. I'm open to finding a person.
45:46
The guy from New Zealand wants to fly in to see me. And I was like,
45:49
well, that was kind of neat.
45:50
Go for it. That would be interesting if I do something like that or fly out
45:54
to see him. Or let him come first.
45:57
He seems sweet. I'd have to talk to him 100 times on the phone.
46:00
But it wasn't a scam because my friend was sitting at a bar talking to him.
46:05
So he was actually from New Zealand. But, yeah, he's only in that area for three
46:10
months. But we'll see. But anyway...
46:13
Is dating them for you, or is it going to be too awkward because of your social
46:18
friends and situations, too? You have to consider that.
46:22
Do you think the social pressures and the judgments, if you go really younger?
46:26
Now, I'm not talking like 20s. I'm talking 10 to 15 to 20 years younger.
46:31
You're asking me who married somebody seven years younger. Did you have?
46:35
Yeah, exactly. Did you have any? No.
46:37
No? Did he? No. No, it was just love. We are fully confident.
46:43
Okay. And you know me, I walk into the room like, I don't care.
46:46
I think you have to enjoy dating whatever age group without any guilt.
46:51
And it should be about a personal match. It's different now, too.
46:55
Right. When I was in high school and I went to my senior prom with my 26-year-old
47:00
date, it was a little awkward because my principal came up to me and said,
47:05
you know, you shouldn't be dating someone like that, especially the neighbor track coach.
47:10
Duh. Yeah, that was kind of funny. I dated the track coach from a neighbor town.
47:15
But that's, you know, that was a 10-year gap or 8-year gap. And that was different.
47:22
Now, 8 years doesn't seem like as much when we get older, right?
47:25
8 years could be... I just think people put so much time.
47:29
Uh, what's that word? Pressure. Pressure and expectation on age. They do.
47:37
It should be just, you know, it's a mutual thing.
47:40
You women, young men walk into a room, attract each other, who cares how old you are? Yeah.
47:45
And who cares what you do? And here's the interesting thing.
47:49
It can be empowering for a woman to date younger.
47:52
There can be some stigmas attached to it. Yeah.
47:55
And some people may actually admire you for it, while other people will judge
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you for it. So you're going to have both sides of the coin.
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Yeah, I have no problem walking to the bar and just sit there and order my martini
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and walk up to the guy and talk to anybody like... I know you don't.
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But everybody loves you, Kat. No, it depends how you walked in,
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how confident you are. That's how you bring up yourself.
48:16
Well, I'm confident in myself. I just don't like people like you do.
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You like to talk to everyone.
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I would rather stay by myself and because i'm very introverted you're just a
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crazy extrovert you're one of the biggest,
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extroverts i've ever seen especially i'm asian i
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know you're you're like you talk to everybody in fact even when we were on our
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cruise together that guy in the hot tub was him not even though you had a wedding
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ring i was like wow i had no idea that he was speaking i was just talking i
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know you were clueless we were all joking about it it's like everybody said
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that guy's hitting on Kat And everybody's like, yep.
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And Kat doesn't even realize it. Everybody's like, yep.
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Yeah, I was just like, blah, blah, blah. I know everything about him in that one. I know you did.
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He was really bragging about all the stuff he had, too. Oh, that's what he has.
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You know, he was like, oh, I used to be a millionaire. Now, I'm not anymore.
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Because he had the X-Y-T-C. I didn't even catch on that. I always just kept talking.
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You know, so when a man dates younger, the joke is, oh, he still got it.
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Look, he can still perform.
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Yes. When a woman does, we're called cougars or desperate.
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That's what they say. That's a social stigma that's out there.
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And you know what you're going to say? I'm proud to be a cougar and I'm proud to be desperate.
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I don't know if I'd be proud to be desperate, but I could be proud to be a cougar.
49:37
And I don't know. I think it's like if it's more than 10 years.
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I don't think you're a cougar because you're within the 10 years.
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But if it's over 10 years, I think that's when they start calling you a cougar.
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Women should be proud of themselves.
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Yes. Especially if you could still attract younger guys. Well,
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like when we were on the cruise and we met Diva Renee, she was getting checked out by the 30-year-old.
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And her friend that I talked to, I forgot her name already. Remember the lawyer? Yeah.
50:04
And she was super, super confident. Her boyfriend probably a lot younger,
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too. I don't know. I don't know.
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Anyway, older women are, you know, we have a pressure to look younger anyway. Mm-hmm.
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So a lot of us look younger well into our 60s, 70s, and 80s.
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All I could say is to the younger men, if you want to date older women,
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just remember, we know what we want and we are expensive. Yes.
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That's all I would say. We are expensive.
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Diva Kat is expensive. Oh, I know.
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No, I think all women, when you get a certain age, you are expensive.
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Just think about to get your nails done, your facial.
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But I was doing all that when I was younger, too. Right, but you need to do
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extra stuff when you're younger.
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Some stuff, yeah. Yeah, remember, you're getting expensive. But I'm not looking
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at a dating partner as someone that pays for my stuff.
50:58
No, not only that. No, not that. But you just need to make sure the guy has
51:02
to have class and be prepared for that.
51:04
Yeah, but I'm okay just paying for my own stuff. I don't need a guy that's going
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to... But the guy who's going to confront you, even though you met at the gym,
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you're not going to wear the tank top the whole time. I'm sorry, no tank top got to go.
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You have to dress naive, red-colored shirt, linen.
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You know what I'm talking about? Now she's complaining about my clothing.
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No, not my clothing. The guy that you're going to dig.
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Oh, yes. No, he has to be at a certain level. Right.
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That's what I'm saying. He has to align with me financially and physically and
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mentally and emotionally and sexually.
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I mean, it just has to be in alignment across the board. When he's younger,
51:43
he still has to have all of them. Yeah.
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Remember when we were talking? And that's the trick in life.
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I think it's to find someone that aligns with you financially is step one.
51:54
To find somebody that aligns with you emotionally is,
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Well, these steps are not in any specific order. And then to find somebody that
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aligns with you physically, sexually, spiritually even.
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All of those matters. It's all of it. And to have somebody that just aligns
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with you on all those levels, that's when you kind of know it's the one.
52:13
And I'm not saying they have to check every box. I think people are too committed
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saying, oh, he has to be six foot two or, oh, he has to be, he has to make,
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you know, $500,000 a year.
52:24
Oh, he has to drive the right car. No, I'm not saying get that detailed.
52:29
I'm saying, do they align with you? Are they close?
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Meaning, financially, are we in alignment? Do we have the same values of wanting to travel together?
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Do we enjoy traveling together?
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Emotionally, does he sit and complain about his exes all the time?
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Or is he emotionally mature enough to actually delve deep and be vulnerable and care about?
52:50
Yeah. And spiritually, I mean, let's talk spiritually.
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Are they too spiritual? Are they too over-the-top religious?
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Or are they the right kind of religious? I mean, there's different levels that
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every single person wants.
53:01
That's true. I mean, and you... None of those matters. You align so well with your husband.
53:07
Yeah. It happened naturally, I have to say. Even when I walked in the room,
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you know, I got out from a bad relationship. I wasn't thinking I'd date anybody. Yeah. It just happened.
53:15
Yeah, but you align on all those levels. Yeah. Are there any of the levels?
53:19
So let's say spiritually, do you not align?
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No. What about emotionally? We came from two different religions,
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though, but... Yeah, but you're still spiritual together.
53:29
Emotionally, you align. I know that. Intelligently, you align.
53:33
Maybe not. But are you attracted to intelligence? Yes. Is he attracted to intelligence?
53:40
Yes. So then you align. Mm-hmm. Or you wouldn't have had that attraction there.
53:46
Yeah, I'm messy and he's very neat.
53:48
That's where something you don't align, but it's not a requirement.
53:51
See, that's a little tiny detail.
53:52
Yeah, that's true. Although it might be a big detail. No, it is a big detail. You know what?
53:58
I went away for this yoga retreat this weekend. So every time I go away on the
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weekend with the girls or go to my family, I come back home and I was like,
54:06
are we going to put in our house on listing or something? Because he cleans it?
54:11
Nothing on the counter, nothing. You know, I'm crazy. I have my kitchen everywhere. Yeah.
54:17
Nothing on the counter. Well, then I think I'm similar to him because when my
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kids are gone, my house is so clean. Yeah.
54:24
And when my kids are here, it's not. And I get to the point where I can't follow around them.
54:30
Yeah and constantly clean up so i
54:33
i'm when i'm by myself everything's clean
54:36
yeah it's just not when the kids are around so you're just
54:39
like a kid for your husband and i'm
54:43
always like oh hell break loose oh no my mom gets me where the laundry going
54:48
and i never finish laundry because i hate putting things away you know and i
54:52
i honestly think that in the last decade the whole shift and mindset to women
54:59
dating younger has changed.
55:00
Yeah. Because I, in the early 2000s, you know, it was kind of a stigma.
55:06
And now it's just, it's kind of fun.
55:09
I cannot tell you, even my own family, every one of them had younger boyfriend
55:15
or younger, at least a couple years younger, five years younger, whatever.
55:19
Yeah. Well, how young do you think I could go? Oh. Or how young do you think I should entertain?
55:26
I can't tell on that numbers. Like I said, you walk into a room,
55:32
talking to people, the energy match, you like the same thing.
55:36
Don't worry about the age. No, how young? So like on the dating apps, you got to set an age.
55:41
And I will say the people in their 20s that were hitting on me before,
55:45
they were doing it because they had a fetish. and I could tell,
55:49
and I'm not really into that.
55:51
So I'm thinking, what, 30, 32 would be my youngest?
55:56
Yeah? I would do 35 up. 35 and up? Yeah. All right.
56:00
At least if you, you know, they get out, they just say they got out for college,
56:04
they've been working for 10 years, they probably paid out their student loan already.
56:07
Well, and then also they're less likely to want children. Right, right, right.
56:11
Because someone in their 20s may want children, and even if they say they don't,
56:16
sometimes that changes in their mindset.
56:18
Right. So I would say that would work for me, too.
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Yeah, 35 and up, they probably don't. Yeah, you're right. 35 and up, they may not want kids.
56:25
It's the whole kid thing, too. I think the kid thing's important because I know
56:28
I didn't really want children until I was in my early 30s. Yeah.
56:32
And God, no, you don't want any more kids, right? And I don't want any more
56:35
kids. And if a whoops happened, of course, I would have something, have a child.
56:40
But I don't want to be raising a child at 70.
56:43
No, not no. You know, like sending them off to college at 70.
56:47
That's just too much. I would do 35 and up.
56:49
35 and up okay all right I think I'm gonna I'm gonna adjust my profile when
56:53
I get back on the dating apps in a month because I'm not I'm taking a month off. Yeah.
56:57
When I get back on the dating apps in a month I will adjust my profile and then
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I'll open it up to 35 year olds.
57:03
Why are you taking a month off because right now it's the summertime especially
57:06
you want to go on the Avengers system.
57:09
Yeah but there's a lot going on in my life that I'm taking care of right now
57:12
so I'm taking some time off. Okay.
57:15
You also have to figure out, are you in this just to have some fun?
57:19
Or are you in this to actually find a partner?
57:22
You want to find a partner, no? I want to find a partner. That's something. I want a relationship.
57:27
I'm not in the state, say, hey, I have to go get married. Yeah.
57:32
But I would say that I do want a relationship. Right.
57:35
You made it clear there's no one-night stand on it.
57:39
Yeah, I'm not into a guy that's dating five women. I'm into a guy that wants to date one woman.
57:43
Right. And that's it. Yeah, I think 35 would be good age. Yeah,
57:48
I think so, too. I think they'll be more emotionally mature most of the time, too.
57:52
But you know, some guy that in their 50s, 60s, they've been dating for years.
57:58
That's a red flag already that you don't want that anyway. But I'm trying to say age doesn't matter.
58:03
You know, I am seeing a lot of guys in their 50s and 60s and they don't really
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want relationships. That's what I'm saying.
58:09
But yet for some reason, the guys in their 40s do. Right. So maybe that's what I'm saying.
58:15
So I think I've been dating possibly the wrong people. And it's been more of
58:19
a game, I think, to some of them. And I'm not looking for that.
58:23
Once your energy mesh, you'll know. Yeah, I'm looking for kind of a fun,
58:27
curious, playful guy that I can have a deep relationship with.
58:32
And, you know, here's the thing. We bring a lot to the table to a younger man,
58:36
too. We have wisdom that they have no idea.
58:39
And we're stable. We have depth. Yes.
58:43
And we're fun. Because a lot of us are moving, our children are moving on.
58:48
Or a lot of us have, you know, we're out of the constant need to take care of
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a man and now we just want a partner that completes us.
58:56
I just think you're such a nice catch. Whoever come along, you were ready to like,
59:00
do stop. I'm ready. It's just the question of, will I find the one?
59:06
And I may not, but maybe I need to just open it up to younger people in order to find my one.
59:11
Maybe I was being too, maybe my age limit of 10 years, five years below and
59:16
five years up was too restrictive.
59:19
Go for the younger one. Maybe the cool love, you know, somebody who just take
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you for a ride for the weekend, who knows where you end up.
59:24
Maybe you end up in another different state. No, I don't.
59:28
I hope I'm still alive when I end up in that different state. You don't know.
59:37
I hope that I find someone, too, that's kind of an entrepreneurial spirit,
59:42
like someone that likes to grow.
59:45
And growth, to me, is a bigger mindset issue than age. I think if they don't
59:49
have a growth mindset, that's a killer.
59:51
Yeah, it doesn't matter how old they are. If they don't have growth,
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they don't have growth. It doesn't match you.
59:56
There's just different pressures when they're older that you don't have when they're younger.
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And as long as they don't want children, I think it's great.
1:00:05
I think it's fine. Go for it. And I do think sexually will be more compatible.
1:00:10
All younger men, yes. Yeah.
1:00:13
Because they're still in their prime in their 30s.
1:00:16
You know, and early 40s. They're still doing pretty well.
1:00:20
And they're more enthusiastic. We'll just say that. Right. So there's probably
1:00:24
more sexual chemistry, which is what I've been saying I've been lacking sometimes
1:00:28
in the older men. That's what I'm saying. Age doesn't matter.
1:00:32
Because you still have such a young spirit. I hope so, man. And you have young energy.
1:00:37
I hope that I can find the right one. But you know what? Until I do,
1:00:40
I think I'm just going to keep looking. Yeah, why not?
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And I'm pretty selective. Yeah. Leave your doors open, baby. Leave those doors open.
1:00:50
So I think that's about it. I think we covered everything today.
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What do you think? Yeah, to all those ladies, it's okay. It's okay if you're
1:00:59
going younger? Yeah, open up your windows.
1:01:01
And if you can be respectful to the ladies that do go younger and don't be so judgmental. Right.
1:01:07
Because I think it's our time to shine. And I don't think it's fair to say it's
1:01:11
bad for a woman to go younger, but it's okay for a man to go younger.
1:01:15
The stereotype is gone. No. And that little glass ceiling we've shattered and
1:01:20
we have moved past that now. Right.
1:01:23
So, yeah, to all those ladies, don't feel any pressure. Don't feel pressure.
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You can do what you want. You can have fun and you can enjoy your life because life is short.
1:01:31
Why not? Life is short. Yes. You have to have lots of orgasms and lots of sex. It's very important.
1:01:36
I like it. And a younger man can give it to you. For sure.
1:01:41
Well, let's wrap it up, Diva Kat. So you have a wonderful week,
1:01:45
everyone. Yeah. I'll talk to you soon. Take care. Ciao, ciao.
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