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From Doctor Stress to Drug Guess, DMV Mess and Trolls Obsessed · Rik and that Michele Chick

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Welcome to Rick and That Michelle Chick, the weekly
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podcast where your hosts, Rick and Michelle, confidently dive
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into topics they know absolutely nothing about and somehow make
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it sound legit. They're not experts.
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They're not qualified. Honestly, they barely googled
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it. So grab a drink, lower your
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expectations, and let's pretend this counts as content.
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So buckle up. Facts are optional, but the
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bullshit? That's premium grade.
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This is Rick and that Michelle chick.
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Awesome. Hey, we're back.
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Well, normally you start it. See, I always joke about setting
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the table, but normally, normally you start this,
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Michelle. So I was surprised.
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Number one, usually when we're talking about responses to the
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podcast, it's 99.9% your friends and I'm and then I'm always
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yeah. And then no one ever makes a
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comment to me about the the podcast.
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But out of the blue, I got an, an Instagram from a friend of
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mine and her name is Kate. And she was listening to the
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podcast and we were talking about the radio situation with
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our friend that's in Phoenix. And then and then she goes, oh,
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and then I talked about the fact that the person, it had never
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been in radio in Nashville, got on the radio and then of course
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got let go like 6 months later. So she made a comment about that
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and thought maybe we knew the same people, but we didn't.
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But I want to do a quick shout out.
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Hopefully. I hope Kate is listening on this
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one because she says she goes, oh, I really enjoyed the
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podcast. And I'm like, what?
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Somebody want, you know, somebody's actually.
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I know. I think we don't believe it.
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When I don't. Believe it.
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And it's mainly our friends and family that tell us this.
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And we know they're lying when they tell us.
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Yeah, yeah. I love listening to the podcast
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every Thursday. I can't wait for it to drop.
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And I'm like, are you mental? Like right?
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Yeah, I'm always, again, I'm always shocked, but I will.
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I will. So I knew.
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This is why I got to do a little shout out for is I knew Kate in
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high school, so so I sat behind her in I had dumb head.
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I had dumb ass math. I needed an elective.
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I needed an elective. So I took the easiest math
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course, which I'm still horrible at math, but I took the easiest
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math class in my senior year and I sat behind Kate and I, I just
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want to say a couple things about her is so and I've talked
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about this before on the podcast.
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I had always thought. Sounds familiar, I think.
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Haven't you told stories about? No, no.
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So Katie. Katie, how?
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Oh, Katie. OK.
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How? Kate and Katie, Sorry.
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It's yes. Right, right.
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So this is my Yeah, so. So yes.
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I mean, not to say that I I didn't think Kate was cute
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because she's adorable. She really is.
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But yeah, Katie Howe. Oh my God, we could spend.
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Someday we'll spend a whole podcast on what I call the.
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Sickness. We know what the sickness is.
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Done it a little. Bit yes, yes, I I am mentally
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deranged and and it's a very unique it's it's weird.
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It's almost my secret it's it's almost my secret superpower, but
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you do not want it going the wrong direction.
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It is yeah, it it's a it's a mental thing.
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So what maybe we'll talk about that.
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I call it the sickness, but I went to school with Kate and so
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anyway, sat behind her in this dumb head, dumb ass math class.
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Anyway, she so I was, I, I will, I was, I was very nerdy or I was
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geeky or I was not popular in high school.
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And she was super nice to me. Like she would turn around and
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talk to me. We'd have conversations and she
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was always super nice to me, right?
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And then at the 10 year reunion, it was kind of that awkward.
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Like you're, you're, you're kind of still at the 10 year reunion.
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You're still in your weird. Clicks.
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Clicks, Yeah. You still are, you know.
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So here I am over at the at the nerd table or whatever, but Kate
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walks by and and she's 10 years older and, and she just stops by
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and grabs my arm and arm and says Hey, Rick.
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And or well, Virgil says Virgil, not Rick, because she knows me
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as Virgil anyway, so she was very nice to me at the at the 10
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year reunion. Now, I didn't see her as she
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didn't come to the 20 or she didn't come to the 30, but I've
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never forgotten that kindness because at the 10 year reunion,
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you're still kind of, I don't know, you know what I'm saying,
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You're trying to interact with people, but everybody's really
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kind of still the way they were. And the best part is, I will
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tell you, the 20 year reunion is absolutely the best because you
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are who you are. There's no, there's no denying
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it. There's no like who's driving a
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better car, who's got a better career?
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That stuff after 20 years kind of goes like.
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You don't most. People 99.9% don't care about
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it, but the tan, they still are holding on to some of that
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previous high school glory and, and trying to make it, you know,
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and, and in both cases in high school, she was nothing but nice
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to me. And then at the tenure union,
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she was nothing but nice to me. And of course, we've stayed in
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contact and she's happily married, got three kids and they
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live in Oregon and, and she's just an amazing person.
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But I will tell you a quick, super quick story.
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One of the biggest lessons, and I don't think I've told this on
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the podcast yet, the biggest lesson I ever learned in high
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school was as I got to my senior year.
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So I, so I talk about it in the book, my book, I talk about the
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fact that between my junior year and my senior year, I went to
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Seattle and I visited my friend Don Luther.
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And so anyway, they took me to Nordstrom's, they bought me some
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clothes, different things like that.
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And so it was interesting that I was in Seattle and people would
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like like the, the, the daughters of, of Dawn.
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They had like three daughters. They were close to my age, you
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know, but I was, but I remember being at the swimming pool in
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Seattle and, and the, the daughter goes, oh, that girl
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over there thinks you're cute. Now, being a geek and a nerd or
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growing up with that, that impression of who you think you
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are and who you really are, two different things.
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So I was like, what someone actually thinks that I'm, you
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know, attractive or semi attractive, not I'm not fugly.
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I mean, so but but I but because you go through junior high, you
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go through high school where people have told you that you're
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ugly and all these different things that you don't even think
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right, right. So I didn't even think about it.
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So it was interesting that, oh, and I was, I was.
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So going to Seattle changed my perspective in terms of, my
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gosh, this is just one little slice of life.
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Like, you know, it's like, I know that you're, you're, you're
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bigger than the sums of that, of that experience.
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And and so when I got back to my senior year, because of my great
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friends, Don Luther and them, I mean, I, I was dressed in
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Nordstroms. I had the sweet mullet going on.
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I mean, no, but I mean, I'm just saying that who you see today is
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pretty much kind of, sort of, you know who I was, you know, So
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by by going to Seattle. Yeah, by by going to Seattle and
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coming back to my small town, I gained a lot more confidence and
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how I dealt with people. And it was like I, I I just
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realized that there's more, there was more value than what
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what people, people's perception in my school about who I was.
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And so and that, and so I just remember that I got into one of
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my classes and I'd gotten into an argument with one of the
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popular kids about just but about cliques and nerds and all
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these different things. And I can't remember if it's if
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it and, and Kate will know these people.
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I can't remember if it's Rocky or Tina.
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So there's they were twins. There was Rocky Ridge and Tina
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Ridge and they were twins. I cannot remember which twin it
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was, but she said the most profound thing to me and it
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taught me everything. It reminded me of of people's
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perception. She said I had said, man, you've
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never, you never treated us nerds, right?
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You, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And I remember her going, well, I never, she goes, I never saw
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you at a football game. I never saw you at any
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fundraising. I never saw you at actively
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interacting with our class. And I thought, well, no, I
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thought, whoa, hang on a second. And she goes, she goes, if you
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would have met us halfway, we would have met you halfway.
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Now that was a that's a lesson because, because, because my
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perception was nobody, my perception was nobody likes me
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or I didn't like, I didn't, they didn't like me and I didn't like
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them, you know, and, and I could, I could hardly wait to
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get out of high school to pursue whatever I'm going to pursue in
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my life. And and at that, in my senior
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year, I got put in my place and I look back like she was right.
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Now, there was circumstances because of the Wallaces, I
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wasn't able to do all these different things she was talking
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about. I know it was.
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I know it was more than just going to a football game or
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going to the bake sale or but right, but.
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But those were the people that were bullying me like, you know,
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like the popular kids or the kids get that everybody got
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along with or liked. So why would I they extend
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myself out to the kids that were like them because the chances of
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me being bullied by them as well were pretty high.
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I know and I, I, it's hard to describe.
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So I went through a weird change between my junior and senior
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year. And if you go read my annual,
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because everybody wrote in my annual, you know, different
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people wrote my annual and they had all said, you've changed so
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much. You, like you, are so different
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than you were. And well, I'd gotten away from
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the Wallaces, which we didn't. They didn't know.
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I mean, all these things I wasn't.
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The Wallaces did not allow me to be who I am.
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They did not allow me to be the person the bogans had raised.
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Right. That would that you know.
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So they they wanted to stifle that person.
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Correct. That person was stifled so so it
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wasn't so in elementary school. It's not.
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And it's not about being popular.
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I think that's just a horrible word.
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But but I was well liked in elementary school.
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Like like kids didn't make fun of my name in elementary school.
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I was, you know, I guess I'd be what could be considered a cool
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kid, you know, But once I hit, you know, or at least I had no
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issues. I had no issues with anybody,
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you know, like there was no bullies for me in elementary
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school. None of none of that happened.
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But when I got to junior high and got put with the Wallaces at
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Lincoln Middle School, that's when they made fun of my name or
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they made fun of the fact that I, that I, you know, didn't
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shower as much as I should. I mean, all the things that,
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that I was not directly in control of.
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So I know that they did have a, a perceived perception of me.
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And then and then the course by leaving the Wallaces between my
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junior and senior year. You know, I've always, I even
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talked about it in my book that be the senior year was the
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greatest year for me because I was able to, to do all the
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things I wanted to do, take a shower.
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I mean, not smell, not be the smelly kid, you know, and, and,
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and be my and be my what I would like to think my true
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personality. So but Kate was one of those
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people who was always nice, just nice to me.
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So I, you know, but I just go back to, I mean, I, I mean, and
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again, everybody's experience is different, but it really was
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profound when she had when when Rocky or Tina had said, hey,
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man, you could have met us halfway.
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Now, Rocky and Tina, they weren't the ones picking on me,
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OK. I mean, if I was getting picked
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on, it wasn't girls. I mean, it was, it was dudes.
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I mean, for for a guy, guys. Yeah, yeah, it was other guys.
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And I remember and one instance where Sean Wexler, who was very,
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at least I thought he was popular in school, he had a
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muscle car and he had a Corvette.
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And I don't know how we got talking, but he goes, man, come
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on, let's go downtown and let's go cruising.
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And so when I showed up in my senior year cruising in downtown
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Lewiston, people are like, Oh my God, Virgil's here because it
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was just, I wasn't, I was never, you know, so, so it's like, so I
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learned by putting myself out. Well, I, well, I don't, I try
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not. I mean, I mean, it was just a
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total. It was just perception is
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different than reality. Right.
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That's all. And I realized when she when
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that when Rocky and Tina said, hey, you know, and I look back,
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you're right because I was stifled by the wall and says I
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couldn't join football or basketball or volleyball or any
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of those things that would have. I think from a bullying
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standpoint, I'm not saying that that's the right thing to do,
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but usually if you're involved with groups of people.
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Yes. Yeah, you know, I'm not into.
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Them you're part of the group and so you're less likely to be
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bullied like. Sure.
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Right. Exactly.
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Yeah, I'm not. And I'm not saying that that's
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every situation, but it for me, it was just that profound, like,
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hey, you know, I look back like, yeah, I, I, I could have, I
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could have met them halfway. So anyway, shout out to Kate.
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I just want to give her a you know, and we're still buddies on
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Facebook and Instagram and she's awesome and I I can't tell a
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lie. I do a did I had a little crush
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on her in high school so and I love sit, I love I I think she
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already knows because I sat right behind her so I looked at
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her butt all the time so I was good so.
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Oh, OK. No, she was so.
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Cute. No, I'm no, she already knows
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I'm not, I'm not worried about it.
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No, she was adorable and, and now I now for me, Kate was too
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cool. I don't, I mean, I think she had
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a boyfriend in high school. So I never asked Kate out or
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anything, but I look back like, oh, she's just a cool.
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She was just a cool person. Right, right.
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Yeah, so anyway, shout out to her.
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And and again, the lesson, the lesson learned was you got to
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meet people halfway. You can't just make an
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assumption about people. I think that's the worst thing
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you could. Have you ever had a Co worker,
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Michelle? Have you ever had a Co worker
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where you're like, oh, that person's an asshole, that
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person's a Dick. And then you got to know him and
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you're like, well, this person's actually pretty cool.
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It's kind of because people, because people said yeah, yes.
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Yeah, yeah. Where people said, hey, man,
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don't go into that person, that person's a jerk or that, you
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know, you're not right. And then you get to know me.
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You're like, oh, I like this person.
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Right. But usually for the most part
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they're correct. I think I can count on one hand
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where that has happened, like so it's very rare or like my own
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Spidey sense I can detect like this person, be this person, be
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an ass, don't. Bother I would I would like to
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think that I would like to think that I usually within a few
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minutes of knowing somebody, get a good vibe or a bad bad vibe
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from me. But when you're young, you're
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not tapped into that or don't understand it.
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So it's gotten better as I've gotten older.
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But, but I still think I, I think some of the biggest
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lessons I've ever learned, and we can say this for another
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podcast is I have, I have made, you know, errors in judgement in
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terms of judging someone before I really knew them.
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And we'll do this in a different podcast.
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And, and I, and I look back that I myself did not give people
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chances because of my own, like you said, of my own getting
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picked on and different things that happened.
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I closed myself off and didn't allow myself to because you're
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because when you're young, you're in survival mode
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especially, especially if you're getting picked on.
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So your guards up, your Shields up, and your.
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Home life isn't like you're trying to survive both realms,
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home life and school life and and it's a lot.
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It's daunting. And I've also said about about
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bullies. I know some people, hey, let's
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just be realistic. Some people are just mean, just
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plain and simple, whether they have a good life or a bad life.
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Some people are just mean. But on the flip side, I've also
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learned that some people that I thought were really mean, you
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know, we sat down with the conversation and I realized, Oh
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my gosh, they had abuse on their side, hence their meanness or
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their their their defense shield was to pick on people to be
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superior because in their home life, they're they were greatly
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abused too. So you kind of try to find that
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that middle ground in that, in that situation.
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So anyway, shout out to Kate and she's awesome and and I was just
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surprised that she was listening so.
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Thank you for listening, Kate. Yeah, absolutely.
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And of course, she probably misses this whole thing.
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She probably didn't even hear this part.
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Probably or she like fast forwarded through.
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She's like, OK, that's enough, that's enough, OK, enough,
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enough of that. All right, so I know Michelle,
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now I'm going to unset the table and it's all Michelle.
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Michelle, what you got going on? Well, yeah, so a lot of things
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have happened with me, but yesterday the doctor upset me.
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So I really wanted to talk about this.
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And I might cry and I don't and I don't even know why.
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So. So my knee has been bothering me
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and it's the one that I had the meniscus transplant on in 2021,
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which I first injured my meniscus in 2017.
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And that's when I had surgery that kind of like cut out the
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tear, whatever. So this has been going on like
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10 years. So my knees been bothering me.
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I'm like, OK, I'll go in and see my regular doctor and see what
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she wants to do. I just thought maybe it's just
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some residual from that surgery because once in a while it will
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kick up and bother me, especially if it swells up blah,
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blah, blah. So she sends me in to get an
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X-ray. I get I got an X-ray and then I
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happen to go into my chart. You know how you can look at the
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results? So this was the result.
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It says significant degeneration, changes of the
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left knee, medial joint compartment space, which that's
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the inside medial, significant loss of joint space and early
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medial osteo. So I don't know how to say that.
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Word is that osteoporosis or whatever.
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No, it's no, it's not osteoporosis.
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It's something different, I don't know, significant
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worsening since previous exam, which the X-ray I would have had
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prior to this one would have been before my meniscus surgery.
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So you would have expected that it would have been better.
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And so I was like, oh shit. So I wanted to go see my surgeon
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in Seattle that did the meniscus transplant.
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So I called her office, left a message like, hey, can you call
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me back? I want to get a referral to go
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see Doctor Garcia. And she calls me back and
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immediately she says, I'm sure that you, you know, saw your
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X-ray results in your my chart. She's like, yeah, you're going
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to need a total knee replacement.
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Like right off the bat. This is what she says.
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And I am, I don't know if I just wasn't prepared for that or
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what, but I was like, what? And then she's like, yeah,
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you're pretty young. So I'm not sure what surgeon is
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going to do that, which normally they don't.
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Usually they do knee replacements when you're like
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6065 because those joints only last like 10 to 15 years, 20
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years at Max. So you would have to have a
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revision, you'd have to have another knee replacement at some
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point in time typically is what happens.
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And so I'm just, I'm a little bit stunned because I'm like
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what? And I tell her, well, I'm like,
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I, and she's like, I'll send over the referral for ortho here
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in Yakima. And I'm like, no, no, no, no,
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no. I'm like, I, I want to go to
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Seattle. I'm not seeing anyone in Yakima.
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And I'm like, and Doctor Garcia is going to want an MRI and
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she's like, no, I am not. She kind of like almost yells at
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me. She's like, I am not going to
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order a $5000 test when your knee joint is completely gone
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and the only option is a total knee replacement.
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And I don't know if like if all that is just what I mean.
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I didn't cry on the phone. It was like after because I was
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like, what in the actual hell? Like I, I don't want a knee
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replacement because like it just really limits like your movement
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typically. And so I'm just like, holy shit.
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But she's going to send the referral over.
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She's like, if Doctor Garcia wants an ex, an MRI, then he'll
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tell me that. And so now I'm waiting for his
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office to call. But I know like if he tells me
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like there's no other option, then there's no other option
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because there are things like a cartilage transplant along with
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the like, yeah, I think it's like ostectomy or whatever it's
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called where they like cut part of the bone out so that they can
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so that they can make space. I know it's gonna be.
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It would be horrible whichever way I have to go.
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But I know like there are those options that I'm not sure that
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they do here in Yakima. So I don't know if she just
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doesn't know about them. There's also a new thing.
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It's called Misha, which is almost like a little like shock
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absorber, but it's only good if only one side of your knee and
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and it's the medial, which is what I have the inside.
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It's only good if it's only that side of your knee.
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And so it's like almost like a shock on a car is literally what
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it looks like. Cuz I was like researching all
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this like, what are my other options like Oh my God.
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Anyway, So yeah, that just upset me.
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I don't know. I I don't know why.
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I don't know if it was just like how she like talked to me or
21:03
just the fact that like I could like chances are high that I'm
21:08
going to have to have a total knee replacement and at my age
21:11
51, like that's, that's pretty young.
21:15
There will there are surgeons that will do it, but still that
21:19
it's just it was a lot. It was a lot and here.
21:22
I think you're in your 40s, so. Thank you, I didn't.
21:26
Realize isn't Isn't it funny if you if you know someone for so
21:31
long that you have no idea what their their age is so like or
21:35
you just. Think like we stay like that
21:37
age. Yeah, I didn't realize that.
21:39
Yeah, I, yeah, we do. It's like so funny.
21:42
It's like, yeah, I that's like you said it.
21:48
But I mean, I'm sure they've had to do that for other people
21:51
before. The knee replacements or just.
21:54
Yeah, 'cause not, yeah, I mean, I said even this.
21:58
The surgeons will do it like they prefer not to until you get
22:02
older. But if that's my only option and
22:04
Doctor Garcia will tell me, like, if my chances are not good
22:08
with like a cartilage transplant and all this other stuff, he'll
22:11
he'll tell me he'll be like look like, yeah, like you're.
22:15
There really isn't any other option.
22:18
Or if are you in? I can are.
22:20
You in a lot of pain. Yes, and it's gotten like
22:24
progressively worse with just within the last couple months.
22:27
I don't know what has happened. I haven't done anything.
22:31
I haven't like fallen down. There hasn't been anything
22:35
that's happened to me that would, you know, injure it.
22:39
So again, I don't know if it's just old age and times just
22:43
catching up to me. I I don't know, it doesn't make
22:46
any sense why it's just all of a sudden bothering me.
22:49
But again, I'm getting older and maybe my bones are just
22:52
deteriorating. You like and you like this
22:54
doctor. You like this doctor, though,
22:55
You Doctor Garcia. You like this doctor.
22:59
And Doctor Garcia, he's like super cute.
23:03
That's besides the point. I didn't know that when I first
23:05
found him though, so that was just out of bonus.
23:09
But it was my regular doctor that was the one that called
23:13
and. Said I'm not gonna do a $5000.
23:16
Well, I guess. And just the way she's, I guess
23:18
they're protecting her. I guess they're protecting your
23:20
pocketbook, I guess. Right, but I'm but she could
23:23
have said it nicer. Not like I mean, just her tone
23:27
of voice. It was just like and she raised
23:29
her voice like weird woman. I just, I know that he's gonna
23:35
want this or he's or, or they're just gonna say, I can't help
23:40
you, I'll refer you to someone because he doesn't do knee
23:43
replacements, but other doctors in that same office do, right?
23:48
So he'll, he'll just say you have to go see Doctor Peterson
23:51
or, you know, whatever. It is.
23:53
I can't imagine that being cheap for a knee replacement.
23:57
No, I mean none of these things, even if I have to have like a
24:00
cartilage transplant and ostectomy, any of that like
24:04
combination of stuff that's not going to be cheap either.
24:07
And that is like bone and soft tissue.
24:11
So you cannot be weight bearing kind of like my meniscus where I
24:14
could not be weight bearing for like 8 weeks.
24:16
And it was, it was, it was a lot.
24:19
It was it, it was a lot. But with a knee replacement like
24:24
they have you like up and walking like the the day you
24:27
come out of surgery basically. So I know this because my mom
24:31
has had both of her knees replaced so.
24:33
Yeah, well, maybe it's. I wonder if maybe it's a family
24:36
thing? Oh, it's definitely, Oh yeah,
24:39
it's totally family thing. And yeah, yeah, it's just
24:44
genetics probably. I know genetics is the genetics
24:47
play such such a key role in all of our health and people don't
24:52
realize, you know, realize that you know, one person can keep
24:56
all the. Stupid stuff I did younger, I
24:58
mean, and riding horses that pretty rough on your knees, all
25:02
the stuff that. All these different things, but
25:04
yeah, it's always, it's always crazy that one person can eat a
25:08
cheeseburger till the day they die every single day and not
25:10
gain a pound and then the next person is.
25:12
A super healthy person is just dying of a heart attack at like
25:16
45 or something, yeah. It's just, it's just genetics or
25:19
yeah, so well, I'm sorry that happened to you.
25:22
And but I mean, we'll just have to wait till the results, right?
25:26
Well, well, I'm gonna call Doctor Garcia's office.
25:30
I mean, she sent the referral over, but I'm going to call them
25:34
probably. Like get my head up after.
25:35
We're done with this pot. Yeah.
25:36
Or be like, hey, my doctor sent this referral.
25:39
When can I come over? Like, anyway, yeah, OK.
25:44
Also another thing I want to ask you guess which one of my kids
25:48
that my brother thinks is doing drugs?
25:52
Oh, this would be fun. This will be.
25:56
Fun. This will be fun.
25:57
So I'm going to go and this is and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but
26:01
I I'm going to go with Jackson. You're correct.
26:04
Of course, because I follow Jackson on Instagram, not that
26:07
he's doing anything, not that he's doing anything wrong.
26:10
I'm just saying of the kids, you know, I'm going to say Jackson
26:14
right now is probably the wild child.
26:16
Well, Matthew was probably. I think Matthew beats them all,
26:21
but. Yes, I like.
26:23
Brother. I like your son's really quick
26:26
before we get to it. I like your son's.
26:28
Isn't it JJ at your mom's house? Yeah, OK.
26:32
There you go, his Instagram. Is JJ at your mom's house?
26:36
Well, yeah, but you know how like the.
26:38
That's funny when you. Say you yeah, you know, when you
26:41
say something to them, their response is your mom.
26:44
And it drives me crazy because I'm like, I am your mom.
26:48
And then they're like wrong your and I'm like kind of like the
26:51
whole 6 seven thing. All right, right, but.
26:55
But Oh my gosh, so. Yeah, so.
26:57
Yeah, yeah. My brother came over to borrow
27:01
some of our tables and chairs for his wife's birthday party,
27:03
and he kind of pulled me aside. It was super weird.
27:07
He was like, this has been bothering me since Easter.
27:13
It's something that I saw, but I wanted to let you know.
27:16
And I was just like, OK, I thought it was going to be
27:19
something about our mom, but no, he's like, I think that Jackson
27:25
is shooting up drugs. And I was like, what?
27:30
I think I was in shock. I did not know what to say.
27:34
And he's like, yeah, I saw, you know, how like the right inside
27:38
your elbow, the little, I don't know what that's technically
27:40
called the little crease there. He's like, yeah, I saw what
27:43
looked like track marks. And I was like, I was like, OK,
27:48
I'm like, well, Jackson does have a skin disease like
27:51
psoriasis or it's similar to psoriasis.
27:54
And I was like, OK, I'm like, you know, thanks.
27:58
Thanks for telling me. I get that he's coming from a
28:03
place of concern. He used to work at a treatment
28:05
facility, whatever. And so I asked Jackson, I'm
28:10
like, Jackson, you are you shooting up drugs?
28:13
Because I know he isn't. He wore a shirt where his like
28:16
sleeves were rolled up. If you're like shooting up
28:19
drugs, you're not going to be hiring a shirt.
28:21
Yes, exactly. Sure.
28:23
And he's even he was like what he was like speechless.
28:27
Again, we know he smokes weed. He's over 21, so there's nothing
28:32
we could do about it. It's kind of like you with
28:34
Logan, like they're old enough to buy it and do it, so you
28:38
can't. Consume it.
28:40
Exactly. You can't tell them no, they're
28:42
legally old enough. And he's like, well I do have
28:46
like he has like 2 little moles that are like right there in the
28:50
crease of. So we don't know if that's what
28:54
my brother saw. I'm sure it was.
28:56
I'm sure what, but I am just like, what in the world?
29:00
My brother's like, you know, just so you can get him some
29:03
treatment early. That's.
29:04
Hilarious. Like a That's hilarious.
29:07
What, out of everybody's kids, like between his and mine, you
29:11
think mine is the one that's going to be shooting up drugs, I
29:14
mean. Yeah, he saw the moles.
29:16
He saw the two moles next to the the elbow.
29:18
And what? Oh, that's, you know.
29:20
I was just speechless. So is Jackson.
29:24
I couldn't believe it. But I mean, now it's kind of
29:27
funny looking back at it. But.
29:28
And if he was doing it like, there would be other signs like.
29:33
Well, there's a ton of other. He would be like failing school
29:36
for one, and he's not so so yeah.
29:40
No, there'd be a lot of, there'd be a lot of different songs,
29:43
yeah. Like his personality would
29:45
change. Yeah.
29:47
So yeah, yeah, again, we were just in shock and I was like,
29:53
what in the world? What like disbelief?
29:58
I think that that is even was something that he even went to
30:04
thinking would be possible that my brother thought that, but I
30:08
don't know so. I picked the right kid, that's
30:11
all. Yeah, I get.
30:12
You did, Yes, I get. The Gold Star for the day
30:14
because I picked the right kid, but that was process of
30:17
elimination, so. Right, right.
30:20
But the kids all tell me Matthew is not the Angel.
30:23
So that's the. Game even though even though he
30:25
may come off as the Angel, he's not the Angel that.
30:28
Well, I think now that he's gotten away from home, he's been
30:32
a little bit more experimental, so.
30:34
OK, all right, all right. Yeah, which is not things you
30:37
want to hear as a parent, so. What do you do?
30:40
What do you do? What do you do?
30:42
I mean, it's one of those things where it's.
30:43
Like, because they're, they're all adults, you can't, you can't
30:47
tell them, hey, don't do this like they're adults and they're
30:51
going to make decisions for themselves.
30:54
All we have to. Do is hope that you've given
30:56
them the best tools to? Yeah, That's all you can do now.
30:58
Yeah. Are you in that?
31:00
Yeah. Are you in that camp that
31:02
marijuana is the gateway drug? No.
31:06
To to to harder drugs. You think that do you think do
31:09
you? But do you think marijuana is
31:10
addictive? Oh, yes, definitely, yeah.
31:14
I think. In the yeah, like younger
31:16
brains, especially Jackson's probably isn't good.
31:20
I think it's not good for the younger brains, but it's, it's
31:25
been shown to help people with like PTSD and chronic pain.
31:31
So I can't just be like, no, it's bad or I think there's real
31:36
positives to it as. Well, yeah, well, Logan and I go
31:39
around and around the same. With mushrooms, I think there's
31:41
a real positive with psychedelics.
31:46
Yeah, not you already know not my you know, don't drink, don't
31:49
smoke. What do you do?
31:50
Good. 2 shoes. Adam Ant.
31:52
So I'm not the I'm not the guy to talk about, but the but the
31:55
reason for me is just it for me, it all just stems back to my
31:58
childhood. It's like I just have I just
32:01
have it has nothing. I always tell people they're
32:02
like, oh, you're religious. I'm like, no, I grew up around
32:06
it. So I have no desire to be but.
32:08
Did you only did you only grow up around Alcoholics or was
32:12
there other? Yeah, well, Alcoholics.
32:14
I mean, there's. No, I mean, there's smoke.
32:17
I mean smoking cigs, you know, smoking cigs 24/7 that, you
32:21
know, all my, all my bro, all my siblings smoke.
32:24
I don't smoke, but they all smoke, you know.
32:26
And so the Wallaces smoked, the Wallaces smoked, but my foster
32:32
parents didn't smoke. So am I and, and, and I and
32:36
would they have an occasional drink yet?
32:38
But they didn't drink. So they weren't like every night
32:41
drinkers after the crack open. But the Wallaces were much more.
32:45
Yeah, the Wallaces were different.
32:47
Mr. Wallace was definitely a drinker.
32:49
My dad was a drinker. My mom was a drinker.
32:51
I mean, I've said my, my cousins are drinkers.
32:54
I mean, real power drinkers, real mean people drinking.
32:56
I always, I always talk about it.
32:58
It's like there's only two ways to be drunk, and you're either a
33:00
happy or drunk or you're mean drunk.
33:02
And for some reason, our family had the mean drunks.
33:05
And so it just was not a fun thing to to grow up around.
33:08
So, yeah, I'm just curious about, I was just curious about
33:10
that. So that's, that's for me.
33:10
That's why I don't, it's just, you know, and I've never had it.
33:13
It's just never been one of those things where I always
33:16
joke, I take my pain straight up.
33:17
I don't escape, you know? Right.
33:20
I mean, I've had a gum here too. It's just makes.
33:24
Me hungry. Yeah, Megan knows more about it.
33:27
Megan knows more about these things than I do for sure.
33:29
And you know, but. But you know, Logan calls it his
33:32
night night medicine and my and Patty, my Co host.
33:35
Interesting. So Patty recently went to the
33:39
went to the pot shop. She's thinking about endorsing
33:42
them or whatever. And so she got so she got
33:44
gummies and and to fall asleep better because she said it
33:48
helped you sleep whatever. She came back the next morning
33:51
and goes, Oh, my God. She goes, I am not, I am not a
33:54
pot person, you know, because it made her feel really weird.
33:58
Yeah. Yeah.
33:59
So. So I don't know.
34:00
I have to ask her if she, if she did didn't, you know, take
34:02
anymore. But she was using it to go to
34:04
sleep. Right.
34:05
It depends on like the milligrams, how much you're
34:07
taking, yes. Absolutely.
34:10
Absolutely. So, you know, it's one of those
34:12
things and down the road I'm, I may need those, I don't know,
34:16
but. But if you if you if your knees
34:19
get blown out, you have a choice.
34:21
Well, so the difference, Michelle, Michelle, between you
34:24
and I in, in 50 years of living on this planet, I've tried to do
34:28
as little physical activity as humanly possible.
34:31
So, So the elbows and the joints are pretty good.
34:34
You know what I mean? This, this is all I do for a
34:36
living, right? So, so the, you know, and then,
34:40
and then it's like, you know, the, you know, trying to go run
34:43
on a treadmill at high speed, you know, because so Cheryl, our
34:46
old boss was a huge treadmill runner.
34:49
She'd literally go, she'd go home at lunch and run on a
34:52
treadmill. Well, about 10 years ago,
34:54
whatever, she wasn't running anymore.
34:56
And I said, oh, what happened? She goes, my, my knees are shot,
34:58
They're blown. Doctor said I'm going to need
35:01
knee replacement down the road because of all my running.
35:04
Like runners especially that it greatly happens to them more
35:08
than. The rest of us and I went and I
35:10
went, see, see this, This is why I This is why I go in and talk.
35:15
This is it. Right.
35:17
Remember when I suckered you into going to the gym?
35:20
Oh. Yeah, we had fun.
35:21
We did a while. Yeah.
35:22
Yeah. I love that.
35:23
There's some great photos. I still let.
35:24
Yeah. Yes.
35:25
Yeah. Yeah, you know, but yeah, that's
35:27
I'm, I'm good for a light workout, a light workout.
35:30
I am not anybody who knows me. It's like, I'm not, I'm not
35:34
trying to put up a personal record.
35:35
I'm not trying to impress anybody.
35:37
I it's it, it it's just not a it's just not a Oh my gosh.
35:41
Number one, it's not a desire for me.
35:42
I just never. Yeah.
35:44
I mean, you do feel good after a good workout, but but when I'm
35:47
at Orangetheory or wherever it's it's like for me it's not about,
35:50
oh, what did I run last week? Oh, I run that.
35:52
I need to Yeah, no. The people that I was like, I
35:56
know are the people that would work out so intensely that then
36:01
they would throw up. I'm like, no, no, not for me, no
36:04
thank you. But that's the worst.
36:07
Believe that. Well, my worst experience with
36:11
you and I was when Micah was going through his phase where he
36:15
was going to that personal trainer and that you remember
36:18
how Micah Cifa's bulked up. And so he goes, hey, I want you
36:21
to go on a workout with me. So we went over to what is it
36:24
Balasteries? Cafe.
36:26
Oh yeah, yeah. Balasteries Cafe And so he goes.
36:29
He goes. You got to carve up, man.
36:30
You got to carve up before the workout.
36:32
So we had sausage, we had eggs, we had bacon, blah, blah, blah,
36:35
whatever we had. And then we went and worked out.
36:38
Oh God. I discovered something in that
36:41
process is if I work out, I cannot eat before I work out
36:45
because guess who was up chucking and who was like, no,
36:48
because it's like, so I learned that when I work out, I have to
36:52
work out on a, on an empty stomach.
36:54
I am not a carb up, you know, and then go run a couple miles.
36:59
No, I need to be light on my, you know, and I learned less.
37:01
I felt sick. I was like deathly ill because
37:06
because of that. And I learned real quick, OK,
37:07
yeah, that's not that's not how I work out.
37:09
Yeah, Yeah. No, I think I would maybe have a
37:13
protein bar, if that. Before maybe.
37:15
Exactly. Exactly.
37:17
Usually, yeah, if I'm working out, I go out.
37:19
Or like, you know what, as my wife says, I OK, Hey, full
37:23
transparency. I don't work out.
37:25
I go walk a couple miles on the treadmill.
37:27
That's it. At my own I mean.
37:29
Walking. At my own pace.
37:30
The best thing for you, especially people at our ages.
37:34
Yeah. So, yeah, Well, yeah, with your
37:36
broken knee, absolutely. You know, I mean, do they
37:39
encourage you to walk? Probably not right now.
37:43
Well I mean they will want it strengthened regardless of if I
37:48
have to have a knee replacement or some of these other
37:50
surgeries. They will want the muscle
37:53
strong. So physical therapy is on my
37:56
horizon before surgery probably is my guess.
37:59
So. Which is going to wear?
38:01
Do you wear a? Do you wear a?
38:03
Is it a brace? Do you wear a brace?
38:04
I started wearing 1 today because it was really bothering
38:08
me. Like I could hear it like
38:10
grinding and catching when I was going up and down the stairs and
38:13
I'm like. Oh, no, yeah, None of that.
38:16
Oh yeah, None of that. None of that.
38:19
I, I I still live by my same thing that I've told everybody
38:22
for the last 50 years. If I can't pronounce it, I don't
38:25
have it. That's not.
38:28
Plain and simple. Plain and simple.
38:31
I know, but that's how that's how I that's how I work.
38:34
Like if I can't pronounce it, if I go to the doctor and they say
38:36
you have blahdy, blah, blah, blah, I'm like, I don't have
38:38
that. I can't pronounce it.
38:39
I don't know what you're. Talking about OK, where I'm like
38:43
researching this shit, like what are other alternatives to knee
38:47
replacements like the Macy and the Misha and all these other
38:51
things. I'm like, I am not going, I'm
38:54
not going down without a fight like which probably might not
39:03
even be an option for me at all, but at least I'm trying to
39:07
figure out what else is out there.
39:09
I was even trying to find like clinical trials for anything
39:13
that's going on for knees that would be alternatives to knee
39:17
replacements. But yeah, they're, they're not
39:21
happening right now or they're all closed or done or anyway,
39:25
that's how, that's how desperate I was yesterday, like.
39:28
When you go to like so we went to Vegas a few years back.
39:31
It was the first time for Megan to go into Vegas.
39:34
I learned a valuable lesson in Vegas.
39:36
I didn't realize, OK, the strip, it looks like it's easy to walk.
39:40
It's not that is that is that is that is an illusion because
39:43
you're like, oh, there's the big pyramid or there's the
39:45
whatevers. There's Caesars.
39:46
We could walk to that. Oh no, their.
39:48
Hotel blocks are like, we think it's like a block, but it's
39:53
technically like 5 blocks. Thank you, thank you.
39:56
We've learned, we really, we learned really quick why the
39:59
tram exists and why you jump the tram and go.
40:02
But we, you know, we tried, you know, like you said, we tried
40:04
to, to, to buff it in different things.
40:06
That's it. That's the first timer, yeah.
40:08
Yeah. Oh yeah.
40:09
No, no, we didn't. Oh yeah, we learned.
40:10
But we learned quick. Like within half a day we're
40:12
like, OK, let's get the tram. Especially if it's hot out it.
40:16
It will take you if you do. If you want to walk from one end
40:20
of the strip to the other, it will take you at least a good
40:23
hour, if not more. You're looking at like an hour,
40:26
hour and a half round trip. Two hours.
40:29
And that was one of the also the biggest lessons I learned
40:31
because I hadn't been to Vegas in a billion years was I was
40:34
overdressed in terms of like, like you said, when we started
40:37
walking around, we had to go to Ross Dress for us.
40:40
I'm like, I'm like, why is there a Ross Dress for less in the
40:42
middle of the Strip? Duh, because I realized all the
40:46
clothes I bought or brought was like, not in this heat.
40:49
Right. Yeah, idiot.
40:52
I think it was. And I think it was September.
40:53
I think it was even September and it was still pretty warm.
40:55
Oh yeah, we go in October for the Gaming Show and it's still
40:59
in the 80s. So yeah, yeah, so valuable
41:02
lesson learned. So, so yeah, Vegas is, you know,
41:05
just, you know, you think, oh, I'll just walk this.
41:07
No so, so when you walk, go to Vegas, I assume you're not
41:10
walking a lot because of the. No, we Uber even if it's like
41:14
across the street. And if it's hot then yeah, yeah.
41:17
I mean, usually we are dressed up because we're going to some
41:19
fancy dinner function or whatever.
41:21
So yeah, I'm not walking it in the heat.
41:25
And if I'm all dressed up. But now I have learned I don't
41:28
wear like the four inch heels. I can't anymore.
41:33
So I'll wear like a fatter chunkier heel, like 2 to 3
41:37
inches, but even then those will kill me by the end of the night,
41:40
so. Yeah, so the Slutty Hills are
41:42
out now I. Guess yeah yeah, I know it's sad
41:47
I had to sell a bunch of them I had some really cute ones that I
41:51
was like Oh my God and some of them I never even got to wear
41:54
like they were like brand brand new that I had to sell because
41:58
they were yeah yeah they. Were like the stripper girls I
42:00
always joke about you know, it's like I mean it's like I just I
42:06
just don't get how it like this yeah, I don't get it because.
42:09
You've had to wear heels, Haven't you done the like walk
42:11
in her shoes? Oh, yeah, for like the wire,
42:13
whatever. Yeah.
42:14
Yeah. Oh yeah, it absolutely.
42:17
Oh, which reminds me, we remember we had Doughboy Twinkie
42:20
do that, Justin. Yes, yeah, he.
42:23
Passed away. I know what happened.
42:25
Do we know what happened? From what I hear, I think
42:28
somebody, I think Todd or somebody put it up that it was a
42:30
car accident. Oh.
42:32
My God, but but I don't know any more than that.
42:34
So it was just a shocker. And young, what was he?
42:37
Probably 30, late 30s maybe if he's lucky.
42:39
Yeah, I would say late 30s, maybe early 40s.
42:42
Yeah, it was one of those. It was one of those things, I
42:43
saw a bunch of people in Yakima posting about it and that was
42:46
very sad. But but we did have Justin.
42:48
One of the first things he did is on the Cape for the morning
42:51
show was walking or heels. He hated it.
42:53
He hated it. Most men hate it, yeah.
42:57
Yeah, absolutely. It's like, yeah.
43:02
Yeah, I mean, it's good. It's good.
43:04
I think it's good for you men to experience a little bit of what
43:08
we as women go through every day.
43:11
Like there are some women that wear heels every day, like
43:14
Jesse, remember, Jesse would wear heels every day.
43:17
And I'd be like, girl, like, how do you do this?
43:19
Like I can barely manage like one night.
43:22
On a weekend, yeah. No, If I if I was a girl, they'd
43:25
be flat like my shoes would be flat.
43:28
Right. Or you'd just be in like comfy
43:30
tenor shoes. Or yeah, exactly.
43:32
Yeah. They just say, oh, there goes
43:34
there goes the lesbian Rick. Because that's probably about
43:36
what it would be. So it is.
43:38
Converse Well, it was so funny was because we I and I'll just
43:45
drop this one from a funny thing from Cheryl was having for most
43:51
of my life when I was younger, being accused of being gay,
43:54
which is whatever, you know, I'm saying like when you were school
43:56
or whatever. And it's so many people have
43:59
approached Cheryl through the years and going and they go I
44:02
they go, Oh, I think Rick's gay and Cheryl goes, he's not gay,
44:05
he's lesbian. And they go, What do you mean?
44:08
And he goes he likes women. He's a horrific dresser,
44:10
horrific dresser, and he has horrible taste in music.
44:13
He's a lesbian. Oh my God, that's sad.
44:16
So she would tell people, she would, she would tell people
44:19
that you're like, oh, I think Rick's gay.
44:21
And they're like I. Mean and you do have a Subaru.
44:23
Yeah, when you're now Megan does Megan, Megan does Megan does
44:27
Yeah, so, but it's just a Subaru.
44:29
And dogs. Yeah, we got Subaru and dogs.
44:31
We got the whole, yeah, we got the whole pack.
44:32
But it was just always funny how people would respond to her
44:34
because we were on the. So when Cheryl was here in
44:38
Tri-cities, we were on the gay bowling bowling league.
44:42
So I was on, so I was on the gay bowling league and there was
44:44
court and a bunch and there's a bunch of guys on that the team.
44:47
And The funny thing being on the gay bowling league was hilarious
44:50
because they call me Breeder. Oh, there's the breeder, you
44:53
know, because I come up, you know, and then it was funny
44:56
during the process was we had a young man, his name.
44:59
Oh God, I can't think of his name off the top of my head, but
45:02
he was really struggling with his sexuality.
45:05
And so we were, we were sitting down at a party that Cheryl was
45:09
showing. And at that time he was dating a
45:12
girl. He was dating a girl.
45:14
And he sat down with me and he goes, he goes when did you know?
45:17
And I go, what do you mean? When did you know he goes?
45:20
Well, when did he when he goes, when did you know about your
45:21
sexuality or you know, and you were gay?
45:25
I said I what? What's that?
45:27
Did he think you were gay? Yeah, yeah, he goes.
45:29
No. When did you?
45:30
I was like when? Did you when did you come out or
45:32
what did you know? He was struggling, there was no
45:34
doubt. I could see that he was
45:36
struggling because of his family.
45:39
So he had a girlfriend because that's what was expected in his
45:42
family. And so he was like, Hey, when,
45:45
when did you come out? You know, with your.
45:48
And I said, I said, well, I, I, I, I said, I don't know what
45:52
you're talking. I mean, I was that I said I'm,
45:54
I'm hetero and, and, and, but we had a nice talk about it and,
45:59
and I, and then the next thing I know he was dating a guy.
46:02
Well, so so. Whenever he said must have.
46:05
Well, I, I, well, I, you know me, I'm a big, you got to be
46:08
you, you got to be who you are. I mean, and if and if I was, and
46:13
you know, I look back like if I was, I, I would have, I don't
46:17
know. No one, no one in high school,
46:18
at least in our school was going to, would come out.
46:20
So the people who were in our high school never came out in
46:23
high school. Right.
46:24
Not till. They came out as adults.
46:26
Yeah. Yeah, so especially.
46:28
For our generation Gen. X, you know, that's, that's
46:33
pretty common. And then luckily.
46:35
I always feel it's I I think it's tough because it's like you
46:39
just knew and I just knew. But think about the young man I
46:42
was talking to where he really struggled it because his family
46:45
was like, this is wrong. So he's dating a girl and he's
46:49
struggling with it when that's really not who he was.
46:51
And then and I see him years later and he's dating three guys
46:55
at the same time. So I was like, OK, that OK, Hey,
47:01
different he different strokes. He is that is that called?
47:06
What is it polyamorous? What's the one where it's
47:08
multiple partners? He might have been in a
47:10
throuple. It might.
47:11
Have been a. Isn't it a truffle or?
47:14
I think it's a throuple. Well, there was three of them,
47:16
it was him and then there was three guys.
47:19
So that might even be more than a throuple, because the throuple
47:21
is 3. So what is that?
47:23
Yeah, a quadruple. I don't know.
47:26
What is that? Called Oh, his name was Alex.
47:29
Alex was his name. Great kid, great kid Alex, but
47:32
it was quite the 180 U-turn to where it's like, oh, what a nice
47:36
person that he's dating this girl.
47:38
Then suddenly, oh, hey, here is Jeff, John and Jack.
47:41
What you're like, what happened? So, but but I just remember that
47:47
conversation when he when he walked up to me, he goes.
47:49
So when did you know and when did you come out like what?
47:52
It's like, I'm not out. I don't understand what you're
47:55
talking about, but so, so, but I still so to the day, if you ever
48:00
you know, as Cheryl says, he's a he's a lesbian.
48:03
Yeah. Horrible, horrible taste in
48:05
music. He loves the 80s which is.
48:06
This is a shout Outback to Kate Kate, my friend Caitlin.
48:10
She's a massive 80s fan, so we bond over.
48:13
She has great 80s musical taste and she's a hardcore 80s fan and
48:18
so whenever I follow her on Insta, she's always rocking the
48:20
80s jam. So nice.
48:22
Shout out back back to Caitlin on that.
48:24
Right. Which, Speaking of that, did you
48:25
decide if you're going to go see Mr. Page in July?
48:28
I have not, no, but I did get, I did get my real ID.
48:32
So that was today and it took no time.
48:34
I was really surprised. But you had an appointment.
48:37
Yep, Yep, had an. Appointment point that out to
48:39
everyone so everyone just doesn't go down to the DMV and
48:42
end up waiting hours so. Yep, and as and you know, I
48:45
joke, before we got the podcast started, it was probably because
48:47
I'm white and male. It was made it easier for me.
48:50
She didn't even blink an eye. But no, I had all the I had all
48:52
the I had all the documents and then tomorrow I'm going to the
48:55
skin doctor, which that'll be a a hoot.
48:58
So remember I had that thing on my.
49:01
Face that you were picking. Well, it's, but it's gone now.
49:04
Well, well. Megan's mom, First off, said
49:08
something to you the last time you saw her.
49:11
And so that's what has kind of. Well, yes.
49:14
Pushed you to to do this, or made it so that now you're
49:19
self-conscious. Then I just jammed.
49:20
Yeah, then I just started jamming.
49:25
Get it off, get off, get off, get off.
49:27
Go back and look at our previous podcast.
49:29
You can definitely see. So yeah, but but tomorrow I'm
49:32
going to go in. I'm going to just double check,
49:34
double check because we were talking about that.
49:37
We were talking about skin disease and I did get this stuff
49:40
checked out and I have this hereditary skin disease where
49:43
I've got little see how that little dark spot?
49:47
But it's not, it's not moles. It's not, it's not, you know,
49:51
pores, pores or anything. No, it's none of that stuff.
49:54
But but I'm getting it more and more the older I get.
49:57
So I'm going to go get it checked out just to make dose
49:59
double check. Right.
50:01
So maybe next week when you see when we see you, that spot will
50:04
be gone and. I don't know.
50:06
I mean, I mean, I don't think he's going to.
50:07
I mean, there's nothing going on with it, so.
50:09
I mean, if you. Want some Crawford birthmark?
50:12
What? It's not bothering me as long as
50:16
hey, as long as it's not. If you don't mind it, then oh, I
50:19
don't. They'll probably leave it, but
50:21
they probably will ask you if you want it removed.
50:23
So yeah. Well, just as you were talking
50:26
earlier about old age, I mean, I'm just starting to see.
50:28
I mean it's just old age, you start seeing bumps and stuff
50:31
that never existed before so. When I sent you that flexi derm
50:35
or you're going to order? Something so I'm going to check
50:37
that stuff out. I'm just going to I think I'm
50:38
just going to start wearing makeup.
50:40
I think that that maybe the. That would be fine.
50:43
Just cover my cover. Yeah, Cover myself and, and be
50:46
like, be like an actor. Like, isn't it amazing?
50:49
OK, so isn't it crazy, Michelle, when you're watching ATV show or
50:53
a movie or whatever and the actor, of course, has makeup.
50:55
Duh, duh, duh. And then you see them out on the
50:57
red carpet and you see their splotchy skin or, you know,
51:01
things you've never noticed, like because they're a real
51:04
person. Right.
51:05
Or if they're on like a talk show promoting whatever movie or
51:09
whatever, they usually won't have makeup on.
51:11
I mean, sometimes they do, but. Right.
51:13
But you really start to see it like they have splotchy skin,
51:16
Yes. Were there wrinkles?
51:17
I think like especially with like HDTV or whatever it is now,
51:22
like really like the wrinkles on some of the actors and
51:26
actresses. I'm like damn.
51:29
No right do. I look like this.
51:31
Like what you? Probably would.
51:32
On you, probably would. On camera, you just don't think
51:35
about it, But now that things are like high definition and
51:37
different things. So it always, always blows me
51:39
away when I, when I see an especially when I haven't seen
51:42
an actor, an actress for a while.
51:44
And then you see them later on and you're like, Oh, and not,
51:47
not that it's a bad thing. It's, but it's the same thing
51:49
when you run into your old friends.
51:50
How many people have you run into that's an old friend and
51:53
they they have facially changed or whatever gained, gained a few
51:56
pounds and they just look different to you because you
51:59
haven't seen them in in a long time?
52:02
Right, right. And I feel like we to ourselves,
52:05
we don't notice, you know, when we start aging or when we gain
52:10
weight or any of those kind of things.
52:12
Like we just don't really notice it as much to ourselves.
52:17
I mean, other people will notice it, but yeah.
52:19
Yeah, I, it's one of those things that's funny when I, when
52:21
I run to people like, oh, you have an aged day.
52:23
I'm like, what? And I and I go and, and then
52:25
you'll look and you, you, you take the photos and you're like,
52:27
Oh, yeah, Oh, yeah, this guy, this guy's fugly, you know, You
52:32
know, we are, we are aging. We are aging.
52:35
There's no doubt about it. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
52:38
So yeah. So maybe I'll start doing the
52:39
makeup thing. OK, well, yeah, we'll have to
52:43
color match you to make sure you get the right colors and.
52:46
I was like, oh. My God, like, I don't know who
53:07
was just the sunlight or what, but I was like, good God like.
53:13
That's the way they spray. Well, boy, they spray it like
53:16
this, right? Of whoever does it, I don't know
53:19
if he does it or somebody else to if you have someone else
53:23
doing this to you, like I would fire them, I'd be like, I go
53:27
eat, get a spray tan. And you try to make sure it
53:30
looks as natural as possible. Like spray tans have evolved
53:34
now. Like you can hardly tell
53:37
sometimes that it's a spray tan, so.
53:40
Yeah, we. Have He's doing it to himself.
53:42
I think he's doing his own makeup because he doesn't think
53:45
so too we. Had a We had a Co worker many
53:48
years ago. His name was Jim Muir.
53:51
Remember Jim Muir? Yes.
53:52
Yeah, he had the perfect tan all the time, and I think that was a
53:57
spray tan, but it was perfect. Like there was no you couldn't,
54:00
you know, But some people just have that.
54:04
What's that? European olivey type skin that
54:07
looks great. But I think he was.
54:09
I think he was spray tan too as well.
54:11
I don't know, I could be wrong but but his was always a.
54:13
Long time ago with spray tans. We're not.
54:15
Yeah, not that great. So good, though, yeah, he, you
54:19
know, so so compared to the the, you know, like, I don't know, I
54:25
don't know. I don't.
54:27
Either I try, I one thing, I mean, I try to, I try not to
54:30
make fun of anybody else's looks because people could turn around
54:32
and make fun of your, you know, your looks or you know, so I've
54:35
tried, I've always tried to be kind about the fact that you
54:38
know, that, that you know, I one thing that drives me nuts on
54:42
social media is when I see somebody that is fat and balding
54:48
and then picks on a woman because she's a size 2, she's
54:51
fat, she's got Cellulite. I'm like, holy shit, look in the
54:54
mirror, fatty, looking familiar. You know yourself.
54:56
So I don't, I try not to make any physical appearance
55:00
judgments about people because I just feel like that's going to
55:03
that'll come back and bite you, right?
55:06
Yeah. Because if yeah, like it will
55:08
because how many times have you been in those comments section
55:10
and one guy says, oh, you know, whoever they're talking to, oh,
55:13
you need to lose a couple of pounds.
55:14
Then everybody jumps on that person like, hey, you know.
55:18
Yeah, I love it. Especially on Blue Sky.
55:20
You, you see these guys commenting on women's looks and
55:24
then people go and look at the guy's pictures either on
55:28
Facebook or whatever, and they're like, dude, like you
55:31
have no room to talk. Like, look at yourself.
55:33
Like, you know, think about this.
55:37
Like what? It's so weird.
55:38
I mean, again, it goes back to the bullying.
55:40
The bullying situation. It's like that's what you got.
55:43
I mean, in terms of, you know, you're going to just attack
55:45
somebody's physical appearance, you know, I think it's, again, I
55:48
think it's hilarious when someone's drop dead beautiful
55:51
and you got some goofball like, oh, you're ugly.
55:54
What, like you're just, you're like, you are just an idiot.
55:58
Well, and then usually they'll attack your personality then
56:03
like, oh, you're ugly on the inside too or like they they
56:07
can't handle any type of rejection at all or anything.
56:11
And so then they just go off the deep end and are like you're all
56:14
the way on the inside too and so.
56:17
Oh my gosh. Yeah.
56:18
Not work. Not the fight, guys.
56:20
Not work. Not worth the fight Keep.
56:22
I mean, they are the trolls. I guess They are the trolls.
56:25
Yep, Yep. OK.
56:26
We're at like fit. We're almost at an hour and I
56:29
didn't even get to talk about what I wanted to talk about last
56:32
week so. But.
56:36
I hijacked, I hijacked this podcast last week.
56:39
I got Rick jacked by you and I wanted to talk about why I why I
56:46
why I seem to love like especially, you know, 'cause you
56:50
make fun of me for watching The Secret Lives and Mormon Lives
56:53
and The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
56:55
Like why I really, I have this weird, I don't know if it's,
57:01
it's not necessarily an obsession, but why?
57:03
I love like the documentaries about Mormonism and all that,
57:07
but I think I may have figured out why.
57:11
So we'll have to save that for the next.
57:13
Week, all right, I'm I'm excited.
57:15
We'll make sure we kick it off next week at, you know, at the
57:17
top, you know for radio people at the top of the hour.
57:20
That's the first thing we're going to talk about, Michelle.
57:24
That's it for today's episode of Rick and That.
57:27
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57:33
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