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To Introduce Our Guest Star - Episode Twenty: Season 2 Wrap Up · Muppet Fan Podcasts with ToughPigs.com

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  Hello, I'm Jared Faircloth. And I'm Johannes and welcome to
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  to introduce our guest star Muppet fan podcast, the
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  topics.com over the last eight weeks.
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  Joe and I have been taking it in, turns the price of each
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  other. With each week's guest, we have
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  got any guests this week joke. So let's just talk about this.
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  Season instead, wonderful, what a surprise guest.
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  It's nobody noticed. It's nobody I did think about
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  like maybe I get like Brian or Anthony on to like surprise you
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  with them and they can talk about the season, whether it's
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  but I'm like, I feel like there's a lot of behind the
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  scenes stuff, they don't know, all won't care about those.
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  Nobody's those nobody's, do you calling them?
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  Nobody's. Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah. And like, they be talking I'll
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  be like, oh, come on, moving right along.
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  Yeah, right. Get it.
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  Yeah, that was a Good joke. I'll put in, I'll put in our
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  bedroom. If I forgot to put into the
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  blooms, just go back in time and listen to you instead of
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  yourself what a season Joe. Yeah, this was a blast is
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  unexpectedly very different from our first season.
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  It really was like first days and we had amazing people don't
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  get me wrong. But like, we had bona, fide
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  celebrities. We had like Peter, like been
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  nominated for Emmys and like a pea.
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  People who whatever you say, man had several Emmy winners.
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  And one of these we did. That is correct.
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  Yeah, what do you what are your thoughts as we've racked up?
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  I mean, I feel real good about the whole season, you know, I
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  don't think that there was a dud of an episode not to say that
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  there were any Duds in the first season either.
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  But like, these were eight very strong episodes and great
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  interviews and great guests. Everyone was so generous with
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  their time and, you know, like it's always that not only is it
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  a treat to get to talk to these people.
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  It's cool to talk to these people that we've known or have
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  talked to or whatever in the past, but like, never really sat
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  down and Like an actual interview.
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  It's like to get to talk to like you know Houston Ian or Marty
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  Robinson or whatever. Like well like what a gift that
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  really was for us. Well I think this is the first I
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  think season one I had interviewed some of those people
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  before this was granted Frank's a different story because you
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  know I could interview that man 25,000 times and talked about
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  25,000 different things but I'd never spoken to Alice before or
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  Marty before or friend before or Bob before I God knows I've
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  never spoken to you know that or or can or Bobby.
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  That's so it was a real Treat to be like, a couple of times
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  because we do these interviews like your nighttime usually
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  afternoon, our time, my morning, and I would do these interviews
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  before I went to work and I'd walk around the whole day work
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  going, how am I supposed to have a normal day when I've just
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  spent an hour and a half on Zoom with Bobby Moynihan.
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  Oh and I have the opposite problem where a walk run or D
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  going, I have to do a normal like workday and live my life
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  knowing that tonight. I have this big interview that I
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  have to do. Yeah, yeah.
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  It's It's such a weird concept for show you.
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  You kind of touched on this. I know we have a lot to talk
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  about, but like we kind of touched on this a little bit,
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  with talking about the scheduling, I meant to look this
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  up. When did you and I start
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  production on this season on phase and to like, like, why
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  would you you were already email Guy?
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  Yeah, you are already telling me after we wrap season 1.
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  You're like, okay, let's start on season two, right?
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  Right now and I was like, hang on.
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  I need a minute to like clear my brain but like it wasn't.
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  Yeah. I feel like it wasn't that long
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  afterward that you like? It wasn't.
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  OK, let's start scheduling. Okay, so we add the final
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  episode of season 1 in May I want to save 20 21 Sure Times
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  Like These, when they arrived I believe that's when the wrap-up
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  went up. We recorded the Alice episode on
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  the 21st of November 20 21. So that's how long Productions
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  been for this show. Like we actually would have
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  thought it was much earlier that we started.
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  I thought it was well, I first episode but I also think we did
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  the first two or three episodes like Alice Marty and Fran.
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  I think we did those three within the space of like Couple
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  of months. So we've recorded, oh, for sure,
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  besides really quickly, and then it took us a while afterwards,
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  like just looking here. Yeah, we did within two months
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  of each other. We've done three episodes.
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  So, so I, this is something we talked about with our wrap up
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  after season one. But like, it's so complicated
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  for so many reasons to schedule this show because number one,
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  you're in Melbourne, I'm in New York.
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  So the time difference It's crazy.
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  Our guests could be anywhere like some of them are.
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  Yep. You're in New York or this time
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  zone with me. Some of them have been in Los
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  Angeles, which is another complicated thing.
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  We have talked to people in the past who did not appear on the
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  show who were in the UK. That was not going to happen
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  that there's just no time that worked for all of us.
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  And so, that's number one. Number two, has been the fact
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  that the nature of this show Between the fact that we're
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  taking turns and we have that question of, what do you want to
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  ask? The next guest means that we
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  have to record in order and, you know, as well as you know, the
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  fact that we don't want to step on each other's toes with
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  reaching out to people. So like, I don't necessarily
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  want to reach out to anyone until I know who your next guest
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  is. So yeah, the Outreach for
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  reaching out to people and scheduling these interviews.
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  There's a ton of time in there before, we're actually recording
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  something. Thing.
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  So we really did need, you know, the last four, five, six months
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  to do this entire eight episodes of season.
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  We're really good. What just having a look at the,
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  at the dates of the using or codes.
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  Now, like I said, we did the first within the three months.
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  The next one, wasn't for another two and a half months, which was
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  bottom graph. And then it was again, another
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  two months after that, another two months after that, Four
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  months after that. Oops to another two months and
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  then another month. So we we why?
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  No, that's what we. How many is that?
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  Yeah. No, I was gonna say that's
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  started real number. I was gonna say Bobby and
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  Thursday. Before we normally here before.
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  Is that what you said? It's been, it's been over a
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  year. We get the first one we did
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  Alison. In 2021, holy cats Allison body
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  was worth in 2021. The first one of 2022 was brain
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  Braille which was the end of January Okay.
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  So in my defense time is meaningless right now.
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  Yeah, I have no concept of time. So yes, right.
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  It took us so it's change 14 14 months to do it.
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  I mean, you know, it's but talk about scheduling.
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  So the first season was different as well because that
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  point I was working casually at that point.
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  So I could basically give you like four days a week where I
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  was going to be available. And then after just after season
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  one finished, I got a new job where I then worked full-time
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  Monday to Friday 9 to 5 and my schedule completely changed.
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  You got a new job in that time as well.
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  So we were both having to go through.
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  You know, you jobs completely different schedules.
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  We both bought houses during it as well which, you know, for
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  things that away because I bought, I bought a house I moved
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  but I didn't buy hamburgers, I can buy a hat, okay.
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  Okay. Well I bought a house what we
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  want to make sure that Daniel know people need to know that I
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  don't have money. Yeah, it's important to head to
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  head, to patreon.com forward slash topics and I don't like to
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  Joe's house fund. But what we, what we both moved
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  so that took up a lot of time as well.
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  So that meant, you know, for a few weeks we couldn't record
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  whatever it was. Yeah, scheduling has been
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  chaotic K tortilla for this season.
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  Yeah, but but it was a great Susan.
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  Anyway, now I had you, sorry. I was going to say, I had, I had
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  you before we started. Today, we're just gonna go back
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  to the first episode. I had you listened to the first
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  60 seconds of the Alice, Dineen episode There was a reason for
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  that. I might quickly dropped in
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  curious. I'm gonna go by quickly drop in
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  here a quick clip of that. So please enjoy going back in
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  time everybody. Hello, I am Jared Faircloth.
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  And I'm Johannes and welcome to to introduce our guest star
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  Muppet fan podcast for topics.com back.
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  The season 2 in this show Joe and I were taken in turns to
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  surprise each other with each week to guests this week.
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  It is my turn. Joe, you have no idea who Our
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  Guest is today. Do you?
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  We're back baby and no, I still have no idea, no clue and I had
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  forgotten how terrifying it is. Yeah, no no, it's not easy.
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  Yeah, it's not-it's not fun. Not fun.
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  You guys. And welcome back.
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  Anything. You can tell me Joe.
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  Anything you noticed about those the 60 seconds.
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  No. I mean I it sounded perfectly
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  normal to me but it wasn't, it wasn't listening for anything
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  but what was so unique about that?
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  So I went to edit that episode and realized that I had lost my
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  audio. So luckily Zoom records.
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  The audio is so the episodes is done using zooms recorded audio
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  for my at least my track and Alice's track your different but
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  I obviously hadn't pressed record until 60 seconds in.
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  So the first 60 seconds of that, I recorded 12 months later so
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  you and I are having a conversation and I'm all my
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  parts are 12 months later. Holy crap.
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  So wait a minute. So you so when you want to edit
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  this like two months ago yeah you you didn't even know what
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  you had said the first time around now that was lost.
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  I had to completely make up a conversation.
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  The first 60 seconds with will ever, you said I just said
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  something that would lead into whatever you said.
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  I would then answer whatever you had said, just for 60 seconds.
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  Like I wasn't too much had a bit of alcohol, interview screwed.
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  Yeah. But yeah, but if you go back and
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  listen yeah. That first 60 seconds I think
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  until you say Muppet Sesame Henson, I think.
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  When I answer like whatever I all three or whatever, I
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  answered. Everything beforehand was
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  recorded 12 months later. Wow.
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  Well that yeah, that stinks. I mean, think I was only 60
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  seconds. Geez, yeah, yeah.
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  Well, that episode was a little charm.
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  I guess. Thank you.
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  That episode was filled with Bayern technical difficulties.
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  If you remember, we got on and we both were like, are we
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  forgotten how to do this? And we both freaking out.
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  I had lost my webcam, so I was doing.
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  I was logged in twice once on my webcam, as I once on my iPad for
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  the sake of a webcam which was like, on a three second, Les.
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  So I would talk and then my webcam would start, you know,
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  speaking I was on mute, right? So that was fine, I remember
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  that. Yeah.
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  And then like yeah my webcams like the angles completely off.
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  So I'm not looking at anybody while we're talking, it was a
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  whole thing and then I don't know if you remember this or
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  not, but I accidentally told you who it was before we even start
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  a recording. And luckily yeah.
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  Do you said that too? Me, you didn't hear me, didn't
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  ya? No, not at all.
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  Yeah, as we were setting up and like others gonna look awful and
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  I remember saying, I'm going to have to apologize to Alice when
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  she gets here and you just didn't hear me.
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  And my stomach dropped, I was like, oh god, I've given it
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  away, or drop the ball on the first one, the first episode.
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  And then I said, but did you get?
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  And I thought he hasn't said anything.
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  So I'm gonna just so short term memory, doesn't jump in and you
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  guys wait a minute. What did you say?
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  I'm just going to leave it and then you are.
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  Yeah, you missed the whole thing.
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  Thank god. Well, the good news is, as I've
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  already established. I don't think a lot.
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  I just see things so like, no. Like, I'm tonight, I show a
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  minute. Yeah, really.
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  For like, for the, you know, I just assumed that we, when you
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  said that, we had recorded all these episodes in the last four
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  months. I just took that as truth
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  without thinking for a half a second that there's no way
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  that's true. And second of all, I never
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  listen to you anyway. Sorry, did you say something?
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  Yeah, that get I might have you going that episode?
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  Also featured pedal ends. Yeah, that was the most treat.
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  You know, it's funny. We both knew that that she and
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  Peter lens are obviously very close and part of me was like I
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  don't wanna it's much as I love Peter and I would never take
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  like miss out on an opportunity to talk to Peter.
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  I didn't want to make it about like oh, so you're you're like
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  you're seeing Peter. Like that's your thing that's
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  that's that's your connection to those to them up.
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  Well, no, of course not. Because she's done a ton of
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  great stuff on her own. Yeah.
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  And then of course, like he's They're so we're like, okay,
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  well, we gotta guys had a Peter. No, Peter.
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  Yeah. So I my original idea was that I
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  was going to have both of them. I was gonna, Oh, I thought let's
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  chat to both of them and then I went no, no, you know what?
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  We've talked to Peter a thousand times and we love Peter very
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  much, but I feel like Alice doesn't get heard you.
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  Like she hasn't sort of had the Limelight enough as far as I'm
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  concerned. So that's why I was like, no,
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  let's let's just have a else by yourself.
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  Yeah, so yeah, it was a nice surprise.
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  Like when you who was around, when you hear was I think she'd
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  mentioned just before we probably got into the interview
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  that he was in the house but it was a nice surprise when yeah,
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  when all of a sudden we just, he who, hey buddy, hey, Joe and we
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  just hear a little Ernie's voice coming what I guess that was.
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  That was very cool. I'll never get over the fact
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  that early knows my name. I can't, I can't get over that.
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  Yeah, that's a whole other thing.
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  That's a halt. A lot of things.
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  But but that was, that was fun. Although, that also, you know,
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  speaking of my own, you know, Joe doesn't use his brain stuff.
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  We had a big snafu in that episode where we were ready to
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  wrap up. Yeah.
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  And she's like, I guess you're not going to ask about age
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  resistance. Okay.
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  And we were like oh because it wasn't listed on your Wiki
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  article and I forgot to write it down and you know whatever.
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  So yeah we got ahead. Force acting up and her Muppet
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  wiki page has a picture of her on the set or like her
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  promotional picture. Just completely left my mind.
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  It wasn't easy but it wasn't like listed it was like it's
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  listed elsewhere. Of course on the wiki but like
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  it just wasn't like in the main paragraph.
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  It might be. Yeah, I don't know.
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  But but yeah, the time. Yeah.
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  Just like it just didn't occur to me.
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  Yeah, no. I just figured, we got there, we
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  got there, we got that. We got there.
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  We had a lovely chat about it but you know, it's too busy.
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  Asking all the questions about community.
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  Which God knows. I got to want it.
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  More questions about community in the season, Joe.
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  Yes. Well we'll get there.
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  Who was our, who was our second? Guest we move on the next guest
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  was Marty Robinson. Yeah.
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  So yeah. Marty was something I wanted to
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  bring in on season one. I did not ask him for season 1,
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  but there was just like, wasn't like I asked him and he said no,
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  and then I asked him again. He said yes, it was like, no,
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  no. He was like high on my list of
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  people I wanted to bring in And so when you and I started
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  planting season 2, he was literally the first person I
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  wrote to yeah, hey, yeah. If you have what, if many of you
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  listen to it and also, if you go and watch the reaction video
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  that I put up a couple of weeks ago, that was hilarious.
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  Because literally like, like we'd be open and honest about
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  the fact that, you know, we don't say, you know, please
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  welcome Frank Oz and then Franco's immediately B's we say,
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  please welcome Frank Oz, and then we have five minutes and
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  then Frank Oz appears. But if you've listened that
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  episode and seen that video, you'll know that literally Joe
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  says, Please welcome, Martin P Robinson and bang purely by
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  chance. Marty click table had clicked on
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  the link and was like, dudes, what's going on?
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  And it's like, oh, we're really getting into this straight away.
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  Oh, yeah. And that also spotlights, one of
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  the things, the many, many things that could go wrong with
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  this type of podcast, that think, goodness, that never
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  happened. No one ever came in before the
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  The, the big reveal. Yeah.
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  And all these interviews that we had done, nobody spoiled the,
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  the surprise. And I mean, if anything, I think
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  party may have been the only one who came in early like we made
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  it clear like OK at 6:00 on the dot don't come in before six
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  like they all. Yeah.
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  Yo understood respect to that. Yeah.
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  Yeah. And but and I think it changed
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  the energy of the podcast a little bit because I didn't have
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  that five minutes to go. Okay.
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  All right. Well ploppies Wiki and what are
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  we gonna do? No, no.
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  I was like oh web whirring. Okay, let's go.
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  Yeah I mean and when you say five minutes, I think it's also
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  important to say like that's not five minutes of you saying, like
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  Okay, let me look at the wiki and start writing down
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  questions. Yeah.
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  No. No, it's five minutes where
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  whoever's being surprised with the guests can has enough time
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  to bring up their wiki page, you know, bring up, you know,
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  whatever. If they have a website or
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  whatever, bring bring that up. And and then honestly, we just
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  kind of like like, isn't it exciting?
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  Like I was guarding believe that Venice a person say you're the
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  best or whatever that it's just two and a half minutes of that
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  Bachmann It's is one of us gown. Oh my God, okay, yep.
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  Alright okay, oh God, alright, who am I gonna?
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  Oh God, I really had to get dark.
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  All right, that's what the first two and a half the recipes.
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  Yeah, there's no like because it's I better call Brad.
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  Okay, Right. But it's also important to me
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  that like the purpose of this podcast is one of us is
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  completely unprepared. Yeah.
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  And you know I think it I think it's a bit of a cheat to say but
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  actually technically had enough time to write down ten
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  questions. It's like no, no you didn't do
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  it. Like we kept got to our word.
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  Yeah. No.
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  But yeah, that was that was that was a real that was that was a
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  fun moment just to because you can hear it in my voice and he
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  actually forgot again you watch a video, you can say it.
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  I really am just like Okay. Like because I have that moment
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  of, oh my God. Okay.
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  This is gonna be great. Oh God.
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  No, you're actually here. Okay.
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  And I have to almost hit that but I always have to lift a
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  surprise like subside because no now I have to do the interview,
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  right? Yeah.
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  It was, yeah, it was a lot of fun.
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  Marty was great. Marty his work.
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  He was in his Workshop. I think and yeah, it was just it
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  was a feast for the eyes because the more you watched it like you
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  saw him, he would just like have we We'd things in the background
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  and like, he had his creepy clown puppet that we brought up
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  and there'd just be like weird eyes in the back and whatever it
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  was. Yeah, it's a shame that this is
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  a podcast, another video cast because that would have been
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  there. All been fun for everybody to be
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  like yeah what's that? Tell us what this is?
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  And you know like Marty he just showed a few things to us but
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  like you know that was like it wouldn't be able to share that
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  as well but that's that's that anyhow podcasts work.
• 20:36
  Alright, our next guest was Fran Brill we had Umbrella on the
• 20:39
  show. So it was writing I yeah, good.
• 20:43
  So I was gonna say friend. I had asked the first season, I
• 20:46
  think I talked about this in the first season wrap up as well.
• 20:49
  I had asked for an but the email address I had she didn't
• 20:53
  regularly check. So she had said, yeah, great
• 20:57
  let's do it. I had said.
• 20:59
  All right. Well, how about this date?
• 21:01
  I had then sent her a zoom and everything and gone.
• 21:05
  All right, well, I guess we're going to do this and then a
• 21:08
  couple of days beforehand I'm like I don't think she's coming.
• 21:10
  I don't think she's even seen this so I think we canceled and
• 21:14
  then that's when I got Leslie but then Fran had emailed me
• 21:20
  back about three weeks later and said, oh my God, I'm so sorry.
• 21:25
  You know, I'd still love to do this and so when it got two
• 21:28
  seasoned Sushi was the first thought because she had we asked
• 21:32
  like I really do want to come and talk to you guys and I
• 21:34
  really do want to be a part of this show and I felt really bad
• 21:36
  that I didn't know didn't get to do it last time.
• 21:38
  So she was first on the list. I feel like my only mistake on
• 21:43
  it was that I had told you beforehand that I had asked her
• 21:46
  so it wasn't necessarily the biggest surprise but worth it.
• 21:50
  Absolutely worth it. Yeah, that that's the thing.
• 21:52
  I was going to add was I didn't remember that.
• 21:54
  You said that you wanted to get friend for season one and I just
• 21:59
  assumed that you were going to get her for season.
• 22:01
  So that made the guessing part a little bit easy on my part.
• 22:06
  It also made it easy of like that's one person.
• 22:08
  I know I'm not going to reach out to because you're already
• 22:10
  doing it but also like France, great.
• 22:13
  I've never I've met Fran on several occasions she and I have
• 22:18
  always got along very well on those times but I've never
• 22:22
  actually like sat down and done like a real interview with her.
• 22:25
  So that was a real treat and you know she's great.
• 22:30
  I mean Fran is the best So, what about a gift to get to talk to
• 22:34
  her? That she was willing to take the
• 22:35
  time with us. Especially, you know, when she's
• 22:37
  like, no longer involved with anything Sesame or Muppet
• 22:40
  related, and, you know, to kind of dive deep into some of the
• 22:44
  stuff in her career that like, I think that she may be hasn't
• 22:46
  really talked about much like, you know, we got to ask about
• 22:49
  like Jim Henson our and stuff like that, which is fantastic.
• 22:52
  All right, episode full Joe, I believe it was Bob McGrath.
• 22:59
  It was it was the great Bob McGrath, what a gift to get to
• 23:03
  talk to him at that one time? Yes.
• 23:07
  So that was the end of my age. Yeah.
• 23:12
  And you know, I mentioned this in in the episode because we
• 23:16
  recorded a new like a little some of the go along with it.
• 23:20
  You know, it's talk about Bob a little bit and I had become
• 23:26
  relatively close with Bob over the last few years.
• 23:29
  And so, this was a gimme for me that like I knew that I would be
• 23:33
  able to get Bob for this show. And, you know, I knew exactly
• 23:37
  how to get in touch with him and you know, everything that We
• 23:40
  would need to do on our end to get Bob.
• 23:43
  So yeah, like that was always kind of on my radar and, and I
• 23:49
  believe I considered getting Bob for the first season if my
• 23:53
  memory serves me right. But because we had already done
• 23:58
  Emilio, number one, I was like, well, we already talked to a
• 24:02
  sesame human, like maybe not, let's not make this the Sesame
• 24:05
  human show. And number two, I feel like we
• 24:07
  had a lot of Sesame people and I kind of wanted to diversify.
• 24:10
  Yeah, the Muppet Henson Sesame groupings.
• 24:15
  So I didn't go after Bob at that time.
• 24:19
  So, yeah, so I knew that season two, we had to happen.
• 24:23
  Yeah, that was a really special episode and it was like it was
• 24:28
  before hand, but obviously, it took on a lot of different
• 24:33
  meaning, I guess after he passed away.
• 24:36
  But I mean, when do you, when you said it was Bob, I was just
• 24:39
  feeling. Filled with absolute Glee and
• 24:42
  joy and he was everything I wanted him to be, he was funny.
• 24:49
  He was sweet. He was, I mean, it was bother
• 24:52
  me, just hearing that the made that's such an iconic voice
• 24:54
  especially in the Muppet world and a hearing it is that lilting
• 24:59
  you know, sweet high voice, say my name, it was like, oh okay
• 25:03
  cool yeah. Everything is right with the
• 25:05
  world. Yeah.
• 25:07
  Yeah. And there's something really
• 25:08
  special about those people who have been on Sesame Street for
• 25:12
  so long because it means that like these are people who we
• 25:16
  grew up with. I mean, we, they were there when
• 25:18
  we were, when we were of Sesame, watching, age and continued to
• 25:22
  be a part of our lives for like the next 30, 40 years.
• 25:26
  So yeah. So Bob specifically, it's like,
• 25:30
  man, let me even more so than, you know, like even Loretta
• 25:36
  long. Who was also there in the first
• 25:39
  episode but for me growing up, she wasn't on the show as much
• 25:42
  as Bob was, and Bob has just always been there.
• 25:46
  Like he's just been this rock of Sesame Street.
• 25:49
  So, yes, you feel that that emotion I feel.
• 25:51
  I feel like I also see that when people see Bob and saw Bob in
• 25:55
  person, you know, there's that guy that like he was, he was
• 25:59
  there when I was three years old and he's still here and, you
• 26:02
  know, obviously not now. But like, but a gift, what a
• 26:05
  gift he is. His family were lovely enough to
• 26:09
  let us release a little bit of video of its Bob and said, what
• 26:15
  is the meaning of life? Which was Franz question.
• 26:19
  I believe, it's right for him, what is the meaning of life?
• 26:24
  And like, it was a beautiful answer beforehand, but then
• 26:28
  after he passed away, just again, took on a whole new
• 26:30
  gravitas almost and I'm not ashamed to say that during that
• 26:36
  editing process I got Emotional a couple of times.
• 26:40
  Yeah. It was, it was a really good way
• 26:42
  to be visiting that moments when you post it it.
• 26:44
  Yeah, that was that was Gap. So so I mean, if you want to
• 26:49
  hear us, talk more about that interview and Bob, you can go
• 26:51
  and listen to the episode because Joe and I, yeah, we
• 26:54
  spent about 10 15 minutes talking about it.
• 26:57
  Which recorded just after he passed and thanks Bob, Wherever
• 27:02
  You Are. Yeah.
• 27:04
  Thanks Bob. Our next guest after Bob was and
• 27:09
  klaw apis. Yeah, so what one obscure get.
• 27:15
  So you know I have a list of people who I want to interview
• 27:21
  some day and like this is a an insane list like this list
• 27:25
  includes every living Muppet Show guest star.
• 27:28
  Like I'm never going to interview ask people, you know?
• 27:30
  Like that's it's got, you know, all the puppeteers and that list
• 27:34
  thing for you is going down down down.
• 27:37
  But always since day, one on that list has been kenko apis
• 27:40
  and I never knew how to get in touch with him, so I never never
• 27:44
  tried, but I just like as Follow, That Bird is a very
• 27:48
  special movie to me. I grew up with it, but also
• 27:52
  like, I still watch it regularly regularly as an adult because I
• 27:57
  think it's genuinely a great movie and it gives me a lot of
• 27:59
  feels. And, you know, I wanted to know
• 28:04
  more about it and Ken's the guy and I'm really, really grateful
• 28:08
  that you were able to get in touch with him and sorry.
• 28:12
  That happened because so now we'll get to this a little bit
• 28:15
  later when we go through here. We are asked, and who, you know,
• 28:19
  we nearly had and all those sorts of things.
• 28:22
  But I had a lot of trouble if you remember getting a guest for
• 28:25
  that episode and I couldn't think of anyone and I'd reached
• 28:31
  out to a ton of people. Some people I came close to and
• 28:35
  I can't wait to tell you who they were.
• 28:37
  But and then I was reading. I got the The giant book that
• 28:43
  granted, I forgot his name. Now the guy who played Kevin on
• 28:45
  the office Brian Baumgartner or something like that, whatever
• 28:50
  his name is that somewhere around Brian Baumgartner, but
• 28:53
  yeah, Gardener found got enough. So he had written a book that
• 28:58
  was like, the oral history of the office and he all the people
• 29:01
  from the office and sort of gotten involved.
• 29:03
  And I was reading that and they get to well, who we going to get
• 29:07
  to direct the first episode, the pilot, and then there's a little
• 29:11
  on the side. A little about me thing for this
• 29:13
  guy, named Ken Corpus and it says, in there directed, the
• 29:18
  Sesame Street movie, Follow That Bird.
• 29:19
  And I was like, oh, okay, oh oh, he could be good guests.
• 29:23
  Oh, that'd be interesting, you know.
• 29:26
  All right. Well, I wonder what else he's
• 29:27
  done and I had a quick Google. And, you know, I saw that he'd
• 29:29
  done a few other little things but I hadn't really dived in
• 29:32
  properly. And I was like, all right, well,
• 29:33
  I'm so I found his his information or his publicist
• 29:37
  information and I had a, yes within 12 hours And then I ran
• 29:42
  with it. And within 12 hours later, they
• 29:44
  had sent me a copy of his book, and we had a date confirmed, so
• 29:48
  he was like on board. Yeah, let's go.
• 29:50
  And it wasn't until afterwards that I Googled.
• 29:54
  What he else. He had directed at all of a
• 29:56
  sudden, I was like, oh, this guy's directed, some of my
• 29:58
  favorite things, this guy's directed some great films.
• 30:01
  This guy's directed some great episodes of Television.
• 30:04
  It's funny. I've been briefed on TV.
• 30:06
  Yeah, I've been re-watching. Santa Clarita diet on Netflix at
• 30:09
  the moment, which if you haven't seen.
• 30:11
  Scene is brilliant, Drew Barrymore, and Timothy Olyphant
• 30:17
  comedy, power house, but I was watching an episode that was got
• 30:22
  really made me laugh and have some really great moments.
• 30:25
  And at the end it came up and said directed by Ken Corpus, and
• 30:27
  I was like hey that's my friend I know Ken so yeah.
• 30:32
  He's done a ton of stuff. But but yeah.
• 30:35
  Then he came on and he was fully prepared.
• 30:37
  I think he'd gone through some of his stuff to find you know,
• 30:41
  fun little tip. It's for us.
• 30:43
  Yeah, he's fine photos that he said yes, he sent us like he
• 30:46
  sent me directly a bunch of like that before seen photos which
• 30:52
  you can see now on our social media.
• 30:56
  Yeah. What a what a get I was.
• 30:58
  So I was so happy that if I was I had no idea what to expect
• 31:03
  with it because I'd gone and looked at a couple of these
• 31:06
  interviews just to make sure that he did.
• 31:09
  He, you know, that I knew what I was sort of getting in tune that
• 31:11
  he Could speak properly, I guess in a in a properly interview
• 31:15
  setting so I had no idea what to expect and he completely
• 31:21
  excelled any expectations. I could have ever had he was
• 31:24
  wonderful And to top it all off, afterward, his publicist was so
• 31:30
  happy with it. The scent of us hard copies of
• 31:33
  his autobiography there, no more.
• 31:36
  And the funny thing is, is like, so it's my copy is sitting on my
• 31:39
  bedside table right now. Yeah.
• 31:41
  And I wanted to, after that interview, I wanted to dive
• 31:44
  right into it, but I realized that if I read it, I can't talk
• 31:48
  about it because I didn't want to reveal to anyone in my
• 31:53
  circles that we got an interview with Kinko apis.
• 31:56
  So, I was waiting until the interview came out and now I
• 31:58
  have no excuse, but like I now, I'm not saying this out loud.
• 32:02
  I'm going to start that book very soon, but choice, but yes,
• 32:05
  I've been like staring at it every night before I go to bed
• 32:09
  be like I'm sorry that book soon.
• 32:11
  Just gotta get that episode out. I got an email from him just
• 32:14
  after we released the episode a few weeks ago just to say hey
• 32:18
  just so you've released it you know again just want to thank
• 32:21
  you very much for a great interview.
• 32:22
  I had a great time hope you're well I was like what a sweet
• 32:25
  man. Sweet guy.
• 32:28
  That's like guy. I'd also think was great because
• 32:31
  a, I don't think he gets to talk about Follow That Bird, as much
• 32:33
  as he would like to. I think he really is pray, left
• 32:36
  film and be, I don't think we ever talk about Follow That Bird
• 32:40
  enough. So that's true.
• 32:42
  We should talk about it more. We should write some pigs
• 32:44
  articles about it, we could you first.
• 32:48
  But it was, it was nice to get a spot like that film for an hour
• 32:54
  because it really is a beautiful family.
• 32:57
  Yeah. Yeah, I agree.
• 32:59
  Let's talk about the heart attack.
• 33:00
  He gave me the next episode, Joe.
• 33:03
  Okay was so Evette. Nicole Brown.
• 33:09
  I made a face I've never made before, or since, when I
• 33:12
  realized that that was coming. I did watch the entirety of
• 33:17
  community over the next two weeks afterwards and every time
• 33:20
  a vet came on, I'd be like, that's my friend of that, that's
• 33:24
  right. Yeah, tell me, tell me Joe.
• 33:28
  Tell me about getting the bet. I'm going to, let me tell you
• 33:30
  everything. So first of all, so I reached
• 33:32
  out to Yvette much earlier because I was considering doing
• 33:40
  another season of my podcast 15 seconds of curtain, which is
• 33:45
  actually it's the first podcast on this channel that you're
• 33:47
  listening to this right now. It was an interview Series where
• 33:51
  I'm talking to people who are celebrities are notable people
• 33:55
  who are also huge Muppet fans. So Yvette has talked about her
• 33:59
  love of Muppets in public many times on interviews and such and
• 34:03
  so I've always known that and I'm a huge fan of hers.
• 34:05
  So she's been on this long list of people.
• 34:08
  I want to interview for, you know, for years.
• 34:12
  She started following us on Twitter and so I reached out to
• 34:15
  her over Twitter and, you know, for that series and then
• 34:21
  immediately afterward. And I could talk about this
• 34:23
  later with the other people that we didn't get for the podcast.
• 34:26
  Uh, yeah, I only had a few yeses for that, 15 seconds of curtain
• 34:30
  and I'm like, I can't make a whole season out of this, like,
• 34:33
  it was just too much. And so I decided to put a stop
• 34:37
  to. It was actually at the time that
• 34:38
  I started doing fraggle, talk with the Henson company.
• 34:41
  So like it was like I can't focus on both of these things at
• 34:43
  once. I had to put that pacce project,
• 34:45
  aside and focus on fraggles but I did have the information I
• 34:50
  needed to potentially book Yvette.
• 34:54
  One thing I was worried about was that Jared have access to
• 34:59
  the tough pigs Twitter. So you could have and maybe you
• 35:02
  did see all the DMS between us. I did not great.
• 35:08
  I'm glad that didn't spoil anything.
• 35:11
  So, yeah, I mean, Yvette was very excited to do this.
• 35:16
  She also have to think Emily angle because the reason that
• 35:21
  Yvette started following us to begin with, but it was because
• 35:24
  she bought Muppet replica off of our friend, Emily angle and
• 35:28
  Emily said, okay? But you also have to do an
• 35:30
  interview with tough pigs. And I think she was like, yeah,
• 35:34
  but it was enough to get to work.
• 35:36
  Yeah, right. Exactly.
• 35:37
  So thank you, Emily. And yeah, and you know, on top
• 35:42
  of it, since I originally said to myself, I would like to talk
• 35:47
  to this person because she's a muppet fan and that when we
• 35:51
  actually booked the interview, she had actually worked with the
• 35:54
  Muppets. So we had something really solid
• 35:56
  to About which was appearance in monotone and Mansion.
• 36:01
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 36:02
  That was like, I've spoken many times before Community is, as
• 36:08
  far as I'm concerned, one of the all-time great TV shows and
• 36:10
  she's one of the all-time great characters.
• 36:14
  So that was just completely gobsmacked now generally, as
• 36:19
  well, you and I, we were all, we've always been very good
• 36:22
  about not giving away who's coming.
• 36:25
  Although even that we have a big first we'll talk and we'll talk
• 36:28
  about that when we get to Frank. But yeah this I deliberately was
• 36:34
  so you knew this about you. You you and I are both huge
• 36:37
  Community fans but I knew specifically that you are a huge
• 36:40
  Community fan and I thought if I do that thing which we've done
• 36:44
  for other guests to say, like, I'm so excited about this
• 36:46
  person. I didn't want you to like, start
• 36:50
  thinking like that, figure it out.
• 36:51
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was deliberately playing it
• 36:55
  way, way, way back. Be like, yeah, I guess, I mean,
• 36:57
  here we go with, you know, some, yeah, some Schmo coming brother.
• 37:00
  Just said, hey, I've got a guest, and I was like, okay, you
• 37:03
  know, can't wait, you know, and I think I probably said a couple
• 37:05
  times, you know, I hope it's a good one.
• 37:06
  You like, yep. Yes, yep.
• 37:09
  Yeah, yeah, anyway, and inside, I'm dying.
• 37:12
  Just died. Yay.
• 37:13
  And then all of a sudden, there's, you know, Shelly from
• 37:15
  Community. I didn't point out something for
• 37:18
  that episode though because it was that was probably my hardest
• 37:22
  episode to edit the reason being a bit.
• 37:25
  Did it on Earth. Phone.
• 37:27
  We could see her but she was, I think, just on a phone or maybe
• 37:30
  an iPad or something. And every time, one of us spoke,
• 37:35
  Her audio would cut out. And so yeah, there are times
• 37:39
  where we are having conversations with their are
• 37:41
  asking questions and she would be answering or she would laugh
• 37:45
  at something, whatever it is, but you wouldn't be able to hear
• 37:47
  it. And so editing it, there are a
• 37:51
  couple of times where she almost seems to start mid-sentence or
• 37:54
  like missed a couple of words and it's because we would say
• 37:57
  something she would then answer, and then we would miss the first
• 38:02
  little bit, so I have to then go in that one.
• 38:04
  I went to edit because I have to go in and basically make it flow
• 38:08
  properly. So yeah, so sort of going
• 38:11
  through and editing it, it's almost like, oh, she's not
• 38:14
  laughing at our jokes. Well, no, she was, it's just it
• 38:17
  didn't work like and I couldn't make the audio work, right?
• 38:22
  Yeah. But she also did a cute thing
• 38:26
  that maybe you remember what exactly what it said because you
• 38:29
  had access to the video. But Shane is a prize gonna be
• 38:32
  surprised. Yeah.
• 38:35
  You tell that because you'll remember exactly what I said.
• 38:37
  Yeah, so she she knew the concept of the show was that I
• 38:40
  didn't know she was coming and she thought it was going to be.
• 38:45
  I would have to guess while she was on the call.
• 38:48
  So she spent time beforehand changing her Zoom photo to like
• 38:53
  a photo of a pillow and changing her Zoom name to it's a surprise
• 38:59
  which she didn't need to do in the end but it was very, very
• 39:02
  cool that she that she even thought to do.
• 39:04
  It was very Wait. Well, wasn't there?
• 39:06
  Also like, didn't she like, have a card or something up?
• 39:09
  It's like shit or something like that.
• 39:11
  Oh, yes, I did. Yes, no, she did.
• 39:13
  Yes, I forgot about that. Yeah, that's right.
• 39:16
  So it was very, very, very that was great.
• 39:17
  She really played along. Yeah.
• 39:18
  She did. And we're also, and the whole
• 39:20
  time, we're like event. It's fine.
• 39:22
  Yeah. Just come on camera.
• 39:23
  You can just come on camera. That was wonderful.
• 39:27
  She spoke to us for a few minutes afterwards, as well,
• 39:29
  which is always lovely next episode.
• 39:33
  Bobby Moynihan. Bobby wanted this great liquor.
• 39:38
  We might have broke the mold of the, of the, we broke the rules
• 39:43
  a little bit. He Joe, because we did get into
• 39:49
  the introduction. Joe, I'm very pleased to present
• 39:52
  our guest star, Bobby Moynihan. And we waited our five minutes
• 39:57
  and then we wait another five more minutes and then we waited
• 40:00
  45 more minutes and then I realized Bobby wasn't coming.
• 40:05
  So we record this, I lied always tell to be weird about it
• 40:09
  because it will, if you remember, we recorded the Sunday
• 40:13
  after Thanksgiving. So, it was Thanksgiving weekend.
• 40:17
  And I was always a little bit. Like, I hope you actually, like
• 40:21
  I felt a bit weird about it anyway, and then he just didn't
• 40:24
  turn up and so I was emailing his publicist, but his publicist
• 40:28
  didn't have a email open. It was Thanksgiving weekend.
• 40:30
  She was with her family. Presumably, and so Again, we
• 40:36
  broke our own rules because you did know.
• 40:39
  Bobby was coming because we recorded get actual interview
• 40:42
  itself about 10 days after we did the intro.
• 40:47
  It was only less than muscle to wait.
• 40:50
  Yeah. I think we were meant to do it
• 40:51
  on the same day. We did it the Wednesday, a week
• 40:55
  and a bit later. Sure.
• 40:57
  I mean, it's so, you know, like I said before, you know, this
• 41:01
  was, you know, this is part of the show, it's part of the
• 41:04
  skull. Of the show is that we have to
• 41:05
  be surprised and there's nothing we could do, like, isn't like,
• 41:08
  oh, I'll just forget and then we'll do it all over again.
• 41:13
  So I tried very, very hard over the next whatever it was 10 days
• 41:20
  to just, not think about it. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't look
• 41:24
  them up. I didn't like, you know, revisit
• 41:27
  any of the, you know, stuff. I know about, you know, the
• 41:32
  Hollywood Bowl show or Sesame Street episode.
• 41:34
  Whatever it was like I just didn't I just tried so hard not
• 41:37
  to think about it. And then when we went back to
• 41:40
  actually record, it's like okay pretend like I just found out
• 41:43
  bring up that Muppet wiki page no notes.
• 41:45
  Just, yeah, we literally, just looking at his page and, you
• 41:49
  know, like making up questions off the bat but I didn't want it
• 41:53
  to feel like, oh, but this is the one that Joe is reading
• 41:57
  pre-written questions or, you know, ye that you did very well.
• 42:01
  Yeah, you made a point of saying that you weren't going to
• 42:03
  prepare for it. Um, yeah, and I don't think you
• 42:06
  can tell at all that it was that you had any prior knowledge of
• 42:11
  that. I hope secretary genuinely don't
• 42:14
  like doing any prep work like it's like it's like oh yeah, I
• 42:19
  don't have to do anything great. I will continue to do that for
• 42:21
  another week and a half. Yeah, but that was such a good
• 42:25
  interview. I was so happy with that.
• 42:29
  The fact that you had the quacker duck man hat literally
• 42:33
  within Arm's Reach and you just put it on for a bit and again
• 42:37
  like he was on that list of people who have always wanted
• 42:41
  interview because I know that he's a huge Muppet fan.
• 42:43
  Like that makes that very clear and you know that had the user
• 42:49
  for bringing him in. Had you gone for him at all in
• 42:51
  season one? So no, but I tried for him for
• 42:59
  15 seconds to curtain, okay? Because I wonder at his, his
• 43:03
  contact info. I had someone who knows him ask
• 43:08
  on my behalf and I came and he was like, yes, yes, of course.
• 43:11
  And actually, when I met him at the Hollywood Bowl show, I told
• 43:16
  him like, I'd love to talk to you more and he's like, oh
• 43:18
  absolutely. And like he told me he beats the
• 43:19
  site and all that. So I thought it was a gimme and
• 43:21
  I just I'm, he's a busy guy. I'm not taking a person.
• 43:24
  Yeah, he was just probably too busy to get back to me about
• 43:27
  this podcast set. No one's listening to because
• 43:30
  there was one episode, I can't remember.
• 43:33
  It was in season. One where he was like granted my
• 43:39
  theories never panned out beside the one but we'll get to him
• 43:42
  before he goes. Well, he would he would had been
• 43:46
  my theory. I was convinced that's who you
• 43:49
  are going for and I wonder if it had been around either the same
• 43:55
  time that I had because I had sent an email to his publicist
• 44:00
  and I had got something back saying that he had Painting
• 44:05
  talks or something with tough Peaks, or something like that.
• 44:09
  I can't remember exactly what it was but I had a theory that it
• 44:13
  was going to be him, so it's a cut.
• 44:14
  There was one where I was so convinced it was going to be
• 44:17
  Bobby Moynihan that when I started doing them up at Sesame
• 44:21
  Henson and it wasn't him. I was like, oh god.
• 44:25
  Well, I have absolutely no idea who this is going to be.
• 44:28
  And so that's why I just sort of and again, so with the Cannabis
• 44:34
  owed and the Bob, Episode. I had such trouble getting
• 44:37
  guests for them and we'll go through all the people.
• 44:39
  I emailed and the people I nearly got and all that will go
• 44:43
  that that shortly. But I was, that's why I just I
• 44:47
  nabbed him. I was like I don't think Joe's
• 44:49
  gonna go for him for this or hopefully whatever thing he had
• 44:54
  been talking to tough pigs about two years ago.
• 44:58
  Obviously fell through because it never came out.
• 45:01
  I'm gonna go for him. So hopefully Jose just
• 45:04
  completely forgotten. He exists and you were 100%,
• 45:08
  right? That was.
• 45:08
  That was correct. Yeah, yeah.
• 45:10
  And and because you had told me that, that you were having
• 45:13
  trouble booking guests. I remember now thinking like,
• 45:16
  well, it's no way. It can be someone huge like Zoe
• 45:19
  could be like, like a Saturday Night Live cast member.
• 45:23
  Like it was like, okay, well you got you know, whatever, like one
• 45:26
  of the puppeteers that we already know or like yeah.
• 45:29
  You know. Someone that like a friend of
• 45:30
  ours can get you in contact with easily or whatever it is.
• 45:33
  Like they wouldn't it didn't even It occurred to me.
• 45:35
  That it was someone of that caliber?
• 45:37
  Yeah. Hey.
• 45:40
  Hey, was that he was one afterwards were I assumed?
• 45:42
  Because he's, you know, Bobby Moynihan, I assumed you were
• 45:45
  going to say, you know. All right.
• 45:46
  Well, thanks Bobby. Appreciate, you know, thanks
• 45:48
  very much for your time and he was going to close his laptop
• 45:51
  and go away. But no, he, the second we
• 45:54
  finish, he was like, oh, I want to go show you my muppet
• 45:56
  collection and he took his laptop out of his recording
• 45:59
  space and he took us into both his garage and he study and he
• 46:03
  just showed us all these much. But collection.
• 46:06
  Yeah yeah he hasn't because Hannah stuff.
• 46:09
  One of us. Yeah it's um and he was so
• 46:11
  excited to show it. Yeah, and that's the thing is
• 46:15
  like, I feel like, I mean, this is I think true for all of us in
• 46:17
  probably like, people were listening to this podcast as
• 46:19
  well. We're like, I would love to be
• 46:21
  like a look at this thing that I have and it's really special to
• 46:23
  me. And I'll be really special for
• 46:24
  you and like maybe not so special for like, you know, my
• 46:27
  wife or like our cab, your friends, who've or visiting our
• 46:30
  home or whatever it is. But it's like, but this is a
• 46:32
  thing like this is like I like a big puppet thing and like I want
• 46:35
  you to geek out with me over it and like now, you know, he might
• 46:38
  feel the same way, like he's got his Muppet fan friends, he's got
• 46:41
  his you know everyone else like his family is.
• 46:43
  His kids, his, you know, his comedy friends, whatever.
• 46:48
  But I think, I think that was a special moment for him of like,
• 46:50
  you guys will understand like, yeah, that's what it was.
• 46:53
  He said beforehand, I am because I granted, I stopped the
• 46:57
  recording. I make a big effort to stop the
• 46:59
  recording after the interview at stuff done.
• 47:02
  That way, we can have a conversation that is completely
• 47:04
  just the three of us and they don't have to worry about
• 47:07
  anything getting taken out of context.
• 47:08
  Anything like that? Not that I ever would.
• 47:10
  But I but I stopped it just as he Is all you guys will really
• 47:15
  enjoy this. Come have a look at my
• 47:16
  collection and so he seemed really came to be like, because
• 47:19
  I think waste out of wrapping it up to be like, oh, thanks Bobby.
• 47:21
  Appreciate your time. He was like, oh no, wait, come
• 47:24
  back to look at my collection and so I think Jackie, please
• 47:27
  we're going. Yeah, yeah, he been sitting
• 47:29
  there for an hour going. No, no, come on.
• 47:30
  Let's finish up so I can show you my cool puppets and stuff
• 47:33
  I've got. But then, but then like, I got
• 47:37
  to show him my, like, fun collection of stuff that I've
• 47:40
  got a rant, and he loved all of that stuff.
• 47:42
  And I think he was pointing at her.
• 47:43
  Stuff you had in your background and everything like that.
• 47:46
  So, um, yes. Don't remember what I eat.
• 47:48
  What I want to show. No, but yeah, I don't know, but
• 47:51
  but he was, he was probably got it.
• 47:54
  Joe, let's talk about another man.
• 47:58
  Oh man, the elephant in the room, the elephant in the room.
• 48:04
  Franco's in the woods. This is steady.
• 48:07
  Zoom name was Franklin. The woods anyway.
• 48:10
  Well, the first thing I know. Yeah, but I just okay.
• 48:15
  Sorry. Can I just quickly say, why I
• 48:18
  guessed Frank and why I had my theory?
• 48:21
  Yes, two reasons, one you and I were Racing for Frank.
• 48:26
  I I said it in the interview before any of the intro I went
• 48:31
  for Frank more than once I just it just never panned out.
• 48:36
  I had a theory in season one, you'd gone for him because I
• 48:39
  emailed I was talking to Bill Beretta and Bill was trying to
• 48:42
  set it up because I didn't have any other way that I could think
• 48:46
  of to get to Frank and I was told Frank's interested but just
• 48:50
  give him a couple of months and I was like, well I know we've
• 48:53
  got wanted Joe's coming up. I wonder if I've been told to
• 48:57
  wait a couple of months because Joe's got him.
• 49:01
  Second reason is because it will talk about this more a little
• 49:04
  bit later. But we've talked about the
• 49:05
  future of this podcast and what happens next and I figured you
• 49:10
  were going to, you were going to really swing for the fences.
• 49:13
  And so you also did a great job and because you're a liar and I
• 49:19
  knew you were lying to me, you said at one point about five
• 49:23
  days beforehand, I Going for someone big, I've just got a,
• 49:27
  what are we? A fun interview, but it won't be
• 49:28
  anyone, you know, really? Oh yeah, yes, bang, amazing.
• 49:33
  And I've gone, don't lie to me hina's, don't lie to me.
• 49:37
  I do exactly what you'll be doing.
• 49:40
  Also at that time, we were on a time crunch the, the oh yeah,
• 49:44
  already being released. Yeah.
• 49:45
  So you told me you're like we have until this day to record
• 49:49
  and like that day was coming up. Yes.
• 49:51
  I'm like, I mean I guess I have to go for someone else, you know
• 49:55
  that's it. It so yeah, I think all the
• 49:57
  interviews had been recorded before we started airing besides
• 50:03
  Frank and we only recorded Frank like less than two weeks before
• 50:10
  before that got released. Which is why we had the reaction
• 50:14
  video to give us another week. We need a little buffer to
• 50:18
  because that and also like as we spoke that thing I was having
• 50:22
  surgery so I was going to be out for a couple of days so I
• 50:24
  couldn't edit. So It was a real, it really was
• 50:26
  that this has to happen and this has to happen now.
• 50:30
  Yeah. Yeah, literally was the last
• 50:31
  day. Yeah.
• 50:32
  So, all right. So let me tell you, kind of what
• 50:34
  happened. I'll keep it brief, but yeah.
• 50:35
  But basically I had someone else lined up like from the get-go,
• 50:39
  someone who was going to be our my season 1 finale guest.
• 50:43
  Yes. And I can't wait to find out who
• 50:45
  it is. Yep.
• 50:47
  Well, you're gonna light up but yeah, that that person was I
• 50:50
  already talked to them. They're gonna be my season 2
• 50:52
  finale, guess I had planned it. Like, if I had done this
• 50:56
  differently I would have maybe said, let's swap you No, I'll do
• 51:00
  the odd episodes. Do the even episodes or
• 51:02
  whatever. Just so that I'm not also I'm
• 51:04
  not doing the season finale again.
• 51:06
  Yeah. But I already knew who my last
• 51:09
  guest was going to be, we're going to build up to it and that
• 51:12
  person was not able to come through again and so I was kind
• 51:18
  of stuck feeling like okay well I have to get another guest.
• 51:22
  I already knew, I think I already knew at that point that
• 51:24
  we had done Bobby moynihan's interview so I'm like yep.
• 51:29
  And like here? The thing that I'll get back to
• 51:30
  that, but like one of the big differences between season 1 of
• 51:34
  this show and season two is season 1, I feel like we were
• 51:36
  trying really hard to come up with really interesting
• 51:38
  different types of people. You know, we've got puppeteers
• 51:41
  and songwriters and you know, like I remember thinking like
• 51:44
  one of my first guest was TC Gordon specifically because it's
• 51:47
  like this is the kind of person who doesn't get these kind of
• 51:49
  interviews, very much, because we're aiming for people like
• 51:52
  Paul Williams and Dave goals. Yeah, so I wanted that, I like
• 51:55
  that. Diversity of season one and
• 51:57
  season two is been a ramp And it's been like, we started
• 52:01
  strong with some of these great performers and then it goes into
• 52:05
  like, you know, Fran Brill and can Co apis and then it goes up
• 52:08
  to the second that you Bobby Moynihan.
• 52:11
  The second you got event you kicked it up a notch.
• 52:14
  So yeah. It's your own fault.
• 52:17
  It is my own fault, but whatever it was.
• 52:20
  It's like, so now it's, this is gotta continue with that.
• 52:24
  Like, I can't not that there's a backwards when we talk when it's
• 52:28
  talking to these people but like it can't go.
• 52:29
  Go backward. Yeah, so I thought for a second
• 52:34
  I'm like okay well if you're really going to shoot for the
• 52:37
  stars then and if this is truly going to be the end of this
• 52:44
  series which will talk about to, but you know who's going to be
• 52:48
  the, who's it going to be the end?
• 52:49
  And I thought, well, it's one of two people who, who do you know
• 52:52
  what the other person was? I didn't try for them, but do
• 52:55
  you know who the other person would have been?
• 52:57
  But the handsome was a Brian Henson.
• 53:00
  Yeah, that would have been it wouldn't Frank or when Brian
• 53:02
  Henson. I feel like those are the two.
• 53:04
  Like that's your. That's that's like you know, put
• 53:07
  a little chocolate, you're done. Well we'll talk more about Brian
• 53:10
  Kelly. I had a feeling you've reached
• 53:13
  okay. Well, go back to okay.
• 53:14
  Yeah, so we'll get. Huh?
• 53:15
  So I thought, okay, well, which one do I want to reach out to?
• 53:18
  Okay, look, I can't say no to Frank.
• 53:20
  Frank will be the best. Frank says, no, I'll try for
• 53:22
  Brian. That was my thought.
• 53:24
  So I II know the Proper channels to get through the Frank.
• 53:30
  And I think it was a combination of two things.
• 53:33
  Number one, I went through specific people, to get to
• 53:37
  Frank. And number two was, I think, and
• 53:41
  this is probably why he didn't say yes.
• 53:43
  The first time around for you is, there's probably a tiny
• 53:46
  window and a lot of luck to ask at that right time.
• 53:51
  Yeah. And the problem was that I got
• 53:54
  through to Frank. It took a while and then he Ask
• 53:58
  me again in a few weeks because he was going on vacation.
• 54:00
  And so, I had to wait a while. And like, by the time, I finally
• 54:04
  got through to him. And he finally said, yes, and
• 54:05
  we're finally setting this up. We're getting closer and closer
• 54:10
  to that. Like it was within the week of,
• 54:12
  when we needed to record this thing.
• 54:14
  And the tricky thing that I think most people don't know,
• 54:18
  when I won't get too much into the weeds with this stuff, but
• 54:22
  Frank was asking some very specific questions about, you
• 54:24
  know, like content and how we going to release it and like
• 54:27
  things that. Anyone should be asking, who
• 54:30
  doesn't quite know what the project is and I wasn't 100%
• 54:35
  sure if he was happy with the answers, I was giving him.
• 54:40
  So when we recorded our intro and you, you know, I revealed to
• 54:45
  you that Frank Oz is Going to Be Our Guest.
• 54:48
  It's like well he's supposed to be here in five minutes but he
• 54:52
  didn't respond to my last email so I guess genuinely had no idea
• 54:56
  if he was going to show up or not it Like we had booked Bill
• 54:59
  Murray to be in our movie and you're like, well, I guess Bill
• 55:01
  Murray might show up if you know, decides that this is
• 55:04
  something he wants to do and thank goodness.
• 55:07
  As I'm telling you this, I get an email from Frank saying, you
• 55:11
  know like hey can you resend you the zoom?
• 55:13
  Like some like I knew he was coming.
• 55:14
  Yeah. But it was like like genuinely
• 55:17
  didn't know. So that was lucky.
• 55:20
  It was really yeah, it was really interesting as well
• 55:24
  because Frank has a There is a conception of Frank that he, you
• 55:33
  know, is a bit of a conventionally old, you know,
• 55:35
  man. And he doesn't like this, and he
• 55:36
  doesn't like that. And so it's going to be really
• 55:38
  interesting to see. I guess how he was going to
• 55:41
  react to, to Muppet fans. Saying, hey, let's talk about
• 55:44
  all these different things and then he turned out to be the
• 55:49
  world's biggest sweetheart. And, you know, because I had a
• 55:54
  heart out. I was, I was like, I have to
• 55:56
  get, go get surgery now. Now I have a heart out and you
• 55:59
  said to me, oh he's got a harder out.
• 56:01
  He's told us 45 minutes and he's good to go.
• 56:04
  Yeah and then it got to ask for an hour and he said 45 so I'm
• 56:08
  like he must mean 45. That's yeah.
• 56:10
  You know. Yeah.
• 56:11
  And then he gave us close to an hour and a half.
• 56:14
  Because I think he said the thing that everyone wants to
• 56:17
  hear Frank say which was you're like, okay I guess we'll wrap it
• 56:20
  up and like, oh no, we're having a good time.
• 56:22
  Let's keep going. Yeah, I'm having fun.
• 56:23
  So I wonder if he says it to people so that if he's not
• 56:26
  having fun, he can get out of it or as I bet he does.
• 56:29
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. There that, that was, I mean,
• 56:34
  that's, that's the mothership that is, that is the Pinnacle.
• 56:38
  That is the white whale. That is my Moby.
• 56:41
  Dick is to talk to her. Frank Oz and to get to talk to
• 56:45
  him for as long as we did and as open as we did like it was going
• 56:49
  to be interesting talking to him anyway, but the fact that he was
• 56:54
  so open and honest about some of these stuff.
• 56:55
  Like I remember asking, like I said, you know, there are things
• 56:59
  that you think they have done right in the last 20 years.
• 57:02
  And, you know, him talking about what he really thinks of my
• 57:05
  personal space. I was thinking I was going to
• 57:08
  ask these things and he's going to go.
• 57:09
  Now, I don't want to talk about it.
• 57:10
  I don't want to mention it because it's just going to get
• 57:13
  blown out of proportion. Ian, whatever it was.
• 57:15
  And he's like, no, no. Let's I'll quite happily tell
• 57:17
  you what I think of these things and what I think they've done,
• 57:19
  right? And what I don't think they're
• 57:20
  doing, right? And you know all the things
• 57:22
  about Sesame and everything like that and then I also thought to
• 57:25
  myself afterwards, okay. We're going to get a thing from
• 57:27
  you soon saying, hey, can you take out all that stuff?
• 57:30
  Can you just, you know, remove it.
• 57:32
  Because that doesn't need to be out there.
• 57:34
  Now he listened to, I think you sent it to him and he listened
• 57:38
  to a little bit of it is like, yeah, cool.
• 57:39
  Go for it, release it. Do what you want to do with it.
• 57:44
  So, I actually got an email from Frank before we released it.
• 57:47
  I just want to make sure that he had the episode.
• 57:51
  He could listen to it. Tell us if there's anything he
• 57:52
  wanted us to edit it out because last thing we want to do is
• 57:54
  anger, Frank Oz. That's not a I don't want to be
• 57:57
  on his bad side so I send the file and he responded.
• 58:01
  Joe, I got the file, the file said this file might harm your
• 58:06
  computer. Pretty sneaky way to get back at
• 58:08
  me for ruining your show. I did hear a third of it but
• 58:12
  then it Stop playing another attempt by tough pigs to censor
• 58:15
  me. He says, but that's okay, I'm
• 58:19
  sure. However, Jared edited it, he
• 58:20
  made me look bad. Go ahead and visit.
• 58:23
  I had a lot of fun with you guys, Frank?
• 58:25
  Well, I how great is that? And like on a man.
• 58:28
  The fact that he he said, I had a lot of fun with you and
• 58:31
  honestly the best moment of the interview for me was there was
• 58:34
  one or two moments where I said something and like Frank would
• 58:39
  laugh but not a just a polite laugh.
• 58:41
  There was one comment belly laugh.
• 58:42
  Belly laugh? And like I consider Frank Oz to
• 58:46
  maybe be the funniest human being on the face of the Earth
• 58:48
  and like to have a reaction from him.
• 58:52
  Like that is, it gives me so much joy.
• 58:56
  I'm going to take that one to my grave.
• 58:57
  Like, that's great, that's it. Yeah, there are a couple of
• 59:01
  moments, I think you get a couple.
• 59:02
  I think I have to get one in there, but yeah, but he gives
• 59:05
  that real deep belly laugh. And yeah, that was a great
• 59:08
  moment. What I think helped with that
• 59:11
  episode. And why I wasn't as intimidated
• 59:14
  as maybe I could have been. Was that Frank did the first 30
• 59:18
  seconds on camera? But he wasn't feeling well and
• 59:20
  he didn't want to be like coughing and sneezing all over
• 59:22
  it. So he turned the camera off and
• 59:24
  then turn it back on at the end, just to say, thanks.
• 59:27
  But so we could hear him but we couldn't see him and you, and I
• 59:31
  are sort of making faces at each other.
• 59:33
  Sort of just a bit like I think, just always communicating,
• 59:36
  telepathically of like, like what the hell's going on?
• 59:41
  Like, that's Frank Oz were Going to, and one of us would make him
• 59:44
  laugh and he like the other one would look and be like good job.
• 59:47
  But again, we're not actually. Well yeah, but we're not giving
• 59:53
  you the telepathically. We're going super proud of you
• 59:56
  for that. Yeah that was that was that was
• 1:00:00
  crazy and then very sweetly. You let me know that he emailed
• 1:00:04
  not long after we finish just to be like hey Hope Jared's doing
• 1:00:07
  well after his surgery. And I can't work.
• 1:00:11
  I think I woke up out of anesthesia and had that and I
• 1:00:14
  was just like, what? A nice man.
• 1:00:16
  What I call it a lovely man. Yeah, it wasn't a dream, it
• 1:00:21
  wasn't a dream. It was a weird day but look, I'm
• 1:00:26
  hoping it might be the start of a wonderful relationship and
• 1:00:30
  might be, you know, maybe Frank might be Keen to do some more
• 1:00:33
  stuff with us in the future, he had leased to Frank.
• 1:00:36
  Frank Oz knows my name and laughed at stuff.
• 1:00:38
  I said like if I never speak The Broncos again, I've got this.
• 1:00:43
  Absolutely. You will always have it.
• 1:00:45
  I'll always have it. And that's it.
• 1:00:47
  That's the whole season. I'll season.
• 1:00:49
  What a great season. This was, it was, what do we
• 1:00:54
  want to talk about? What comes next, which is?
• 1:00:59
  Yeah, well probably lie, nothing.
• 1:01:02
  I mean, that's the thing is, you know, we had such a such trouble
• 1:01:07
  scheduling this thing, and there was a point.
• 1:01:10
  I remember probably we were halfway Recording and you were
• 1:01:14
  having some trouble. Like, I don't like everyone.
• 1:01:16
  I've asked either I can't get them or I don't, you know, we've
• 1:01:20
  already wasn't getting a mouse back anymore.
• 1:01:23
  Yeah, you were just having some trouble and I said like I what I
• 1:01:27
  want to do is I want to help you but I can't there's literally
• 1:01:29
  nothing I can do to help you. Yeah, I feel like whatever we
• 1:01:33
  decide to do after this because we want, we do want to keep
• 1:01:37
  podcasting. We just need to find a new
• 1:01:39
  format because I think some of our best work comes from.
• 1:01:42
  So, the collaboration and not being able to collaborate on the
• 1:01:46
  planning has been kind of, you know, it's been hard, it's been
• 1:01:51
  kind of not the ejecting. Like, I don't think we've gotten
• 1:01:54
  that much rejection, but like, it does feel that way a bit
• 1:01:58
  where it's like, yeah, I'm kind of, like sitting here by myself,
• 1:02:01
  emailing people, not getting Ramon got like that.
• 1:02:03
  Thanks got to a point where it was causing anxiety because I
• 1:02:09
  was thinking to myself, we can't be spending 14 months in
• 1:02:15
  pre-production like we can't be spending 14 months getting this
• 1:02:18
  app before it gets out to people.
• 1:02:21
  And so yeah. I was having real moments where
• 1:02:25
  I was just like this is almost stopped, being fun, trying to
• 1:02:29
  find people like the funding. This is sitting down and
• 1:02:33
  surprising you or being surprised.
• 1:02:35
  That's that's the fun in this. It's it wasn't anywhere near as
• 1:02:39
  fun sorting it out as it was the first season.
• 1:02:44
  And so, we decided that we will, we will keep doing something.
• 1:02:50
  We will be providing you Avenue, we both good ideas for podcast.
• 1:02:53
  We want to do for this channel, but as much as it saddens me to
• 1:02:58
  say, because I truly do, I'm so proud of this show, I am so
• 1:03:02
  proud of everything we've done and every interview we've done,
• 1:03:05
  but it's it. It has to go to bed now.
• 1:03:09
  It has to go away. At least for the moment who goes
• 1:03:11
  in five years, we might turn around and go.
• 1:03:13
  Yeah, let's do it again, but for the moment I was gonna say the
• 1:03:16
  same thing. Yeah, leaving that door open.
• 1:03:18
  That's it may not be the end butbut.
• 1:03:21
  Yeah butbut. I don't expect any for the next
• 1:03:23
  little while. Yeah, it may not come back, if
• 1:03:25
  it does surprise. And we're not going to top Frank
• 1:03:29
  has like that's it? What a great series finale.
• 1:03:32
  No Andy, man of people who said in the comments and stuff this
• 1:03:37
  would make a great. See, I expect you to do this the
• 1:03:39
  series finale. Well, we kind of did which is
• 1:03:42
  again, why I think why I went, which is again, I think why?
• 1:03:46
  Yeah, why I guessed it was going to be frank because I assumed we
• 1:03:49
  were going to go anywhere else. We're going to swing for the
• 1:03:52
  fences because I knew that this was going to be the last
• 1:03:55
  interview at least, like I said, for the time.
• 1:03:57
  Being like, I'm not going to come to you in three months ago.
• 1:04:01
  All right, let's start season 3. Well, and I think that's one of
• 1:04:05
  the reasons why we you, and I feel comfortable talking about
• 1:04:08
  some people we didn't get because, yes, it's not like, I'm
• 1:04:12
  going to tell you who I didn't get, and then I'll shoot.
• 1:04:14
  I got to book people in the couple.
• 1:04:15
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:04:16
  You know, yeah, well, I mean, that leads us in.
• 1:04:21
  Should we go through some of the people?
• 1:04:22
  We didn't get. Hmm.
• 1:04:24
  Let's do it. I'm happy that I'm happy to kick
• 1:04:27
  his ass. Off.
• 1:04:29
  Yeah, please. Here are just some of the people
• 1:04:31
  Joe that I sent emails to. And didn't he back from sure.
• 1:04:39
  It's because they're very busy and not because they hate us
• 1:04:43
  eggs are like I'm sure they're also human being also because
• 1:04:46
  their publicist definitely looked at this and just deleted
• 1:04:48
  the email. But one that really surprised me
• 1:04:52
  that I thought would answer, but I didn't get was James boban.
• 1:04:55
  I thought I'd surely get a response from his people got
• 1:04:58
  nothing from him. Did I wait for Ricky Gervais?
• 1:05:00
  So it was never gonna hurt him. Mark Hamill, was never going to
• 1:05:02
  get him Bret McKenzie. He thought I might get Bret.
• 1:05:05
  McKenzie, didn't hear anything. There.
• 1:05:07
  Tina Fey was never gonna hate her.
• 1:05:09
  Wait, let me jump in here while you're still here because so
• 1:05:13
  I've also tried not for this but for just regular tough pigs
• 1:05:16
  interviews. I've tried to reach out to James
• 1:05:17
  bobin and Mark Hamill and, you know, it's like I we have their
• 1:05:24
  publicist, publicist contact information.
• 1:05:27
  And I feel like it's like, I know that they would say yes, I
• 1:05:30
  know, James Baldwin would say yes if I can just get through to
• 1:05:33
  him, you know, I know Mark Hamill would say yes, because he
• 1:05:35
  loves Muppets, he loves, he was friends with Richard Hunt.
• 1:05:38
  He wants to talk about these things.
• 1:05:39
  Hmm. And like, if assuming they have
• 1:05:41
  time, of course, but like yeah, at the very least.
• 1:05:43
  It's like, let me just just give me a little.
• 1:05:45
  Okay. Sorry, go on.
• 1:05:46
  I would have and I tried again for Jason Segel, I am 100% sure,
• 1:05:52
  Jason Segel would happily sit and talk about Muppets with us
• 1:05:54
  for an hour, but his publicist just never that.
• 1:05:57
  I could, I tried again for season, so glad I tried in
• 1:05:59
  season 1 as well. I tried and season 2 and I got
• 1:06:02
  another, this isn't going to happen and I was just like, all
• 1:06:04
  right, fine? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:07
  So like I said, like Tina Fey, Ty Burrell, Was never going to
• 1:06:10
  get any of those guys. There's a few that I went for
• 1:06:15
  swung for the fences. And actually got responses and
• 1:06:21
  coupled it will, like, I got close to and one that I actually
• 1:06:25
  almost had a confirmed time, but I'll get to that in a moment.
• 1:06:32
  I nearly got Stephen Colbert. Whoa, so wow.
• 1:06:37
  That was out of out of the sort of five or six.
• 1:06:40
  I'm going to tell you. That was probably the least
• 1:06:42
  close. I got out of these ones, but I
• 1:06:44
  at least had a conversation with his publicist.
• 1:06:46
  Steve seems interested and then I got another thing saying it
• 1:06:52
  wasn't going to happen basically.
• 1:06:53
  Like all this is like I'm paraphrasing.
• 1:06:55
  It was all written a lot nicer, then I'm probably making a
• 1:06:58
  sound. The next one I got even closer.
• 1:07:01
  Still was John Oliver. Wow issue with John Oliver was
• 1:07:08
  that there were only going to be able to give me 15 minutes now
• 1:07:11
  granted, I thought about it last night.
• 1:07:13
  I'm like I should have just grabbed it and I shouldn't have
• 1:07:15
  done it for this. We should have done it for
• 1:07:16
  something else but I think at that point I was so panicked
• 1:07:19
  about trying to find a guess. So this is all for episode 5 so
• 1:07:23
  the one that was can clubbers sure.
• 1:07:25
  Yeah. I should have done it and I
• 1:07:27
  regret not doing it and I should reach out to these people and
• 1:07:29
  maybe see if I can't sort it out.
• 1:07:34
  Who else? Did I nearly get?
• 1:07:35
  Oh, I granted. I didn't come close to these
• 1:07:38
  guys, but I did get a very lovely email from their
• 1:07:40
  publicity team that I thought was going to be a form letter
• 1:07:44
  when I first got it and then I read through it and I actually
• 1:07:46
  talked about the Muppets in it. I reached out to Michelle
• 1:07:49
  Obama's people, why not? And I got a lovely email about
• 1:07:57
  the Muppets being American tradition and all that sort of,
• 1:07:59
  you know, rah-rah stuff, which I could I try to find the email
• 1:08:04
  last night, I can't find it anyway.
• 1:08:06
  Oh, you gotta, I want to see that.
• 1:08:08
  I'll have to see if I can't find it, but I did that.
• 1:08:11
  Wow, yeah, it was a lovely email, which is, you know, the
• 1:08:16
  Muppets are great. No, sorry I we did, it's kind of
• 1:08:22
  like we invited the Obamas to our Wedding.
• 1:08:25
  Yeah we got a very lovely letter.
• 1:08:28
  Yeah, we have it framed on our wall which like we knew that
• 1:08:30
  like they're not going to come but like they said a little like
• 1:08:33
  a very nice rejection. Yeah.
• 1:08:37
  Okay. So this is so for, then episode
• 1:08:41
  7. So what we came Bobby, I had a
• 1:08:44
  couple of things. One of them was that the plan
• 1:08:48
  was to get as many of the hence, and kids as possible.
• 1:08:53
  I had Basically had Brian and cherrylle down and then the plan
• 1:08:59
  was to get laser and Heather as well.
• 1:09:01
  So I was talking to Colin Henson.
• 1:09:04
  The issue, the reason that didn't happen was that they
• 1:09:06
  weren't going to be able to do it until like early no, Italy
• 1:09:09
  February. I think it was and we needed it
• 1:09:11
  beforehand and so that didn't end up happening.
• 1:09:20
  But yeah, that the plan was to get just get all of them on and
• 1:09:22
  to have a full conversation about, you know, No.
• 1:09:25
  I really want to have a conversation about their, like
• 1:09:28
  Jim Henson has a father and stuff like that and sort of that
• 1:09:31
  Legacy and how they feel about, you know, the Muppets and all
• 1:09:33
  that sort of stuff. So, that almost happened that
• 1:09:37
  came, that came close that. But also another reason that
• 1:09:40
  didn't happen. Is that eat day.
• 1:09:41
  I got the email saying, Brian and Cheryl are definitely,
• 1:09:45
  interested was the same day. I got the email from Bobby's
• 1:09:48
  publicists confirming Bobby was in and so, I was like, all
• 1:09:52
  right. Well, so I messaged Nicole.
• 1:09:55
  Goldman, Adam Henson, who I was talking to and said, Don't
• 1:10:00
  stress. Don't need it.
• 1:10:02
  But we've got some ideas for other things.
• 1:10:04
  We might want to do and we'll definitely reach out then
• 1:10:05
  because we do have other ideas that I'd love to talk to you
• 1:10:08
  that also, that's still a really good idea, we should still do
• 1:10:12
  that. Yeah, this is getting all the
• 1:10:14
  hints and kids in Aliens together, still great idea.
• 1:10:16
  So The other idea and it was delicious six, which is too hard
• 1:10:22
  to sort out was I had a lot of conversations with Frank Rob.
• 1:10:29
  Schneider at Disney, who was the publicist for the Muppets?
• 1:10:33
  We were going to attempt to do, basically a long 45, one-hour
• 1:10:38
  interview with Matt Vogel and Kermit the Frog.
• 1:10:43
  The plan was that. Wow.
• 1:10:45
  Matt would sits on webcam, with Kermit sitting there next to him
• 1:10:50
  and we would talk to Kermit and Matt together and we would go
• 1:10:54
  back and forth like that. And there was going to be a lot
• 1:10:56
  of logistics about what Kermit couldn't couldn't say.
• 1:10:59
  And I understood that, you know, we can't necessarily talk about
• 1:11:02
  like, you know, A gym or Steve, or anything like that.
• 1:11:05
  And we can't disturb talk about, current being a puppet, but we
• 1:11:08
  can to Matt and it was gonna be a whole thing and Disney will
• 1:11:11
  like they will Keen. It was just going to be a lot of
• 1:11:15
  figuring out what the hell that was going to look like.
• 1:11:18
  And yeah, it was probably going to have to be an earlier
• 1:11:21
  conversation with you. Not even not nearly a
• 1:11:23
  conversation but like you know instead of 15 minutes before the
• 1:11:26
  guests arrive 0, Let's jump on half hour before the guest
• 1:11:28
  arrives because we've got a few things to go through.
• 1:11:31
  The reason that fell through was because it was because if Matt
• 1:11:39
  had Kermit it was considered a performance.
• 1:11:43
  And Matt has to get paid and so yes that's right.
• 1:11:46
  So they were going to have to find a time that Matt was going
• 1:11:50
  to be already performing. Otherwise we were basically
• 1:11:54
  gonna have to front some cost somewhere and so I had a like
• 1:11:59
  several people say to me like when we started producing
• 1:12:04
  publishing this season. Yep.
• 1:12:06
  You know people guessing already of like who are you going to get
• 1:12:08
  your going to go big? Several people said to me like
• 1:12:11
  are you gonna get a character? Yeah.
• 1:12:12
  And And I I knew, you know, that was going to be too complicated
• 1:12:17
  for for all the reasons, you just said of like what they can
• 1:12:19
  and can't say but but really, I knew that there was going to be
• 1:12:22
  a money issue. Yeah.
• 1:12:24
  So I just didn't want to. I just didn't want the headache
• 1:12:27
  of like figuring out the logistics.
• 1:12:29
  I just wanted a book someone and then move on, you know?
• 1:12:31
  Yeah, yeah. So the they had a date in mind
• 1:12:37
  that Matt was going to be available.
• 1:12:40
  They just didn't know whether or not he was going to have time.
• 1:12:43
  Said he was going to be shooting something with Kermit.
• 1:12:46
  I don't know what it was. Might have been those Disney
• 1:12:48
  Emoji Blitz. Ads that have been coming out
• 1:12:50
  recently, something like that. They had something they were
• 1:12:52
  going to be shooting with Kermit.
• 1:12:54
  Anyway with that, they just didn't know if he was going to
• 1:12:56
  have 45 minutes for us. So in the end I was like this is
• 1:13:01
  going to be too hard, don't stress like that.
• 1:13:04
  That like I'll tell you what, we'll worry about it for
• 1:13:07
  something else so that didn't happen in the end but that was a
• 1:13:11
  conversation for about two weeks.
• 1:13:13
  The one that I had, Joe that will haunt me for the rest of my
• 1:13:17
  dreams. so, what happened was, I reached out to this person
• 1:13:24
  publicist They said yes are they said they would pass it on to
• 1:13:30
  this person this person then said, yes.
• 1:13:33
  And it apparently was like quite excited about the idea.
• 1:13:36
  They then said, okay, we'll come back to you in the next couple
• 1:13:39
  of days with a time. It should be in the next couple
• 1:13:42
  of weeks and I was like, yep. Great.
• 1:13:45
  So three days later. I sent another email saying, hey
• 1:13:48
  just wanted to go out, anytime they said give us the rest of
• 1:13:50
  the day. We should have a time confirmed
• 1:13:52
  for you for next week. I was like, yep.
• 1:13:54
  Great. I think I messaged you and said
• 1:13:55
  I've got two guests lined up probably next week so I try
• 1:13:59
  great. I then get an email about two
• 1:14:02
  hours later saying, hey, something's come up.
• 1:14:03
  The guess is no longer available but feel free to reach out in a
• 1:14:07
  few months. I did work at a few months later
• 1:14:11
  for the what was going to be the Bobby episode and I guess never
• 1:14:14
  heard back. I'm so upset Joe because it was
• 1:14:21
  Dame, Julie Andrews. What it was Dame, Julie Andrews.
• 1:14:28
  I came that close to marry freaking We came that close.
• 1:14:35
  I that would be incredible. A um, I tried I tried to get an
• 1:14:41
  interview with her when they were doing Julie's, Green Room.
• 1:14:45
  Yeah, you know, I got in touch with, you know, all the people I
• 1:14:49
  needed to to say, like, hey, you know, I mean, they were filming
• 1:14:52
  here in New York with my new all the puppeteers so it's like,
• 1:14:55
  yeah. Let me just pop over this
• 1:14:56
  obviously before covid. Look, I'll just pop over and
• 1:14:59
  we'll just, like, sit down and look at the microphone out.
• 1:15:01
  We'll just do quick thing. And It got not quite as far as,
• 1:15:07
  oh, that sounds interesting. Let's do it, but it got further
• 1:15:10
  than I expected and then I was told ya.
• 1:15:13
  Just I don't think she's up for it.
• 1:15:15
  Do you want to interview like the other guy who's on that
• 1:15:18
  show? And I'm like, I don't know who
• 1:15:19
  he is. So no, I don't I don't want
• 1:15:21
  that. That's and I and I let it be.
• 1:15:24
  That would have been incredible. I would have been.
• 1:15:25
  It would have been a good get it will haunt my dreams forever.
• 1:15:29
  It will just. Yeah it just it devastated me
• 1:15:33
  when I got That it's not going to happen, and then I think.
• 1:15:36
  Yeah. Like, can you imagine can you
• 1:15:40
  imagine? Because it Mi was so much, I
• 1:15:41
  can't, but I can't because I feel, I also have a lot of NOS
• 1:15:45
  throughout tough pigs history, you know, I get it.
• 1:15:48
  Well, let's talk about you guys who did, who, did who did I
• 1:15:51
  almost interview Joe? Who could I, even if you do it?
• 1:15:53
  Well, so my list is not quite as big as yours because I was.
• 1:15:59
  First of all, I wasn't thinking that big aside from the vet and
• 1:16:02
  Frank And, you know, both those were obviously already talked
• 1:16:06
  about them but like I wasn't like, sending out ten emails,
• 1:16:11
  hoping that too would come back. I was, you know, kind of going
• 1:16:15
  one by one and like, kind of going for people that I knew
• 1:16:17
  would say yes or that would fit this.
• 1:16:21
  Yeah podcast series because it wasn't thinking about
• 1:16:23
  celebrities, but there are a few on that list still and there's a
• 1:16:27
  few who because I was kind of trying to plan this interview
• 1:16:31
  series and the failed 15. The curtain around the same
• 1:16:35
  time. I did send a lot of emails out
• 1:16:39
  for that. That I got a lot of NOS or non
• 1:16:41
  responses. Like, for example, I got a very
• 1:16:45
  quick know, from Michael Caine's.
• 1:16:46
  People would have been really cool.
• 1:16:50
  Yep, that would be amazing. Yeah, I got actually, the
• 1:16:54
  world's fastest know, was from Brett, goldstein's publicist.
• 1:16:58
  Yeah. Now, don't fight him a couple of
• 1:16:59
  times. He would have been cool and I'm
• 1:17:01
  not giving up on Brett Goldstein, but I also might My
• 1:17:03
  timing really stunk. I think it was right after he
• 1:17:06
  had won his second Emmy Award and I'm like yeah this guy's in
• 1:17:10
  the Marvel Universe. He's not he's not doing this
• 1:17:12
  thing. Hopefully we'll catch him at the
• 1:17:14
  right time. But there were also a few people
• 1:17:18
  that I had reached out to that. I got a yes from for 15 seconds
• 1:17:21
  to curtain that I was going to say, like, okay well that
• 1:17:24
  projects done but let me do this one with you instead, but I
• 1:17:27
  didn't think that they were that they were people that you would
• 1:17:32
  know just because They're like their famous to me, or the
• 1:17:36
  famous to some people in. Yeah, certain circles.
• 1:17:39
  But I don't know if they were famous in Australia, I kind of
• 1:17:42
  don't want to see what their names are just because yeah,
• 1:17:45
  like to try and you know what, we'll see what happens but you
• 1:17:48
  know, like one person is a director.
• 1:17:50
  That's definitely directed. Some movies that you've seen.
• 1:17:53
  One person is a comic book, writer and a TV writer who's
• 1:17:58
  probably written things that you maybe have seen.
• 1:18:00
  I'm not actually sure about that at all, but neither of them have
• 1:18:03
  I've ever worked with the Muppets.
• 1:18:05
  It was going to be more, you know, like they're their fans.
• 1:18:08
  So yeah. You know, that would have been a
• 1:18:10
  fun interview but it didn't really fit this project so I
• 1:18:12
  didn't I didn't ask for that. Yep, but I had a lot of ideas
• 1:18:18
  for people that I didn't reach out to but they were on my be
• 1:18:23
  list of if I really need a guest.
• 1:18:25
  Then I'm going to reach out because I know they'll say yes.
• 1:18:27
  Yeah among those people and like obviously there's all the Muppet
• 1:18:31
  performers and writers and such that would have been really
• 1:18:33
  Sting, you know, among them like I didn't I didn't reach out and
• 1:18:40
  I still would love to do a big interview with like Pam Arts
• 1:18:42
  hero who we've never talked to yeah.
• 1:18:45
  You know it at length L muraoka would have been a great guest.
• 1:18:49
  Yeah Chrissy Ferraro, who is a sesame writer?
• 1:18:53
  Would have been great, these are all people, like we all get them
• 1:18:55
  for something else. Like yeah, easy, but they were
• 1:18:58
  on that be list. Also on that be list, were
• 1:19:01
  people like Michael Davis who wrote this.
• 1:19:03
  Street gang. But yes, great guy love talking
• 1:19:08
  to him. Didn't end up reaching out to
• 1:19:10
  him for this but I've had a feeling you'd say yes we did and
• 1:19:14
  I was trying to think outside the box of like, who else can I
• 1:19:18
  ask on a whim and that they would absolutely say yes?
• 1:19:21
  That would have made for a really fun episode of this show
• 1:19:24
  if we hadn't already been ramping up to more and more
• 1:19:27
  famous people? Yeah.
• 1:19:28
  So on that list were people like Dave Holton?
• 1:19:31
  Who's about? If an artist we love that.
• 1:19:33
  He's a great guy. Hundred percent, you would have
• 1:19:35
  done this, you would have never guessed it.
• 1:19:37
  It would have been really fun conversation.
• 1:19:39
  Yeah, yeah, just didn't happen. I was thinking about reaching
• 1:19:47
  out to your dad. Yep.
• 1:19:55
  Great love my dad. I just thought, like, how funny
• 1:20:00
  would it be if I said, if I revealed it it's your dad and
• 1:20:03
  then you know like can you can you actually just just ask him
• 1:20:05
  he's in the Next Room over? He just told me I'm over.
• 1:20:12
  That would have been a lot of fun but yeah, just is either.
• 1:20:16
  Your dad are Frank Oz and I just I try lost a coin and it was
• 1:20:19
  Frank. So, the one though that I
• 1:20:23
  mentioned, I was going to get as the season 1 finale.
• 1:20:27
  Yes, I'm happened. So, we came in season 2 finale.
• 1:20:31
  Okay, so we have a mutual friend.
• 1:20:35
  His name is Patrick honor, he has been on the moving right
• 1:20:39
  along podcast. He's a huge Muppet fan, and he
• 1:20:43
  does a show called The George Lucas talk show, where they book
• 1:20:49
  actually. Real-life celebrities to sit
• 1:20:52
  with an improviser who is pretending to be George.
• 1:20:55
  Lucas specifically, George Lucas of 2023 of today, and he does
• 1:21:01
  not break character is his sidekick is W 0 from Star Wars,
• 1:21:06
  episode one. And so, my plan was I was going
• 1:21:10
  to book George Lucas and, but it was gonna be words would have
• 1:21:13
  come on and it was a bit, right? And George would have come on,
• 1:21:17
  and would have been George the entire time Yeah, we would have
• 1:21:21
  gotten all three of the guys, from George.
• 1:21:22
  Lucas talk show. So would have been Patrick
• 1:21:23
  George, Lucas and Waldo. And I know George would have
• 1:21:27
  talked about like, what it was like when he worked with Jim on
• 1:21:31
  Labyrinth like that sort of thing and all three of.
• 1:21:34
  Those guys also are huge Muppet fans.
• 1:21:36
  Yeah. So it would have been a fun,
• 1:21:38
  like they would have been really nice, would have been a lot of
• 1:21:40
  fun talking about. We could have kicked out about
• 1:21:42
  it, would've been so much fun, and it would have been a great
• 1:21:45
  season finale of a great series finale.
• 1:21:46
  Like it would have been would have been great.
• 1:21:49
  They are very busy. See guys, they have very all
• 1:21:51
  three of them have. Crazy, schedules are working on
• 1:21:53
  different stuff, all the time. And I think they've just moved
• 1:21:58
  to LA and they're starting to do shows out there.
• 1:22:01
  So like it just the timing was not great.
• 1:22:04
  We'd still love to do stuff with them about that.
• 1:22:07
  We'll find a good project at some point, but George Lucas
• 1:22:10
  would have been the one that would have been very, very
• 1:22:12
  funny. Yeah yeah yeah.
• 1:22:15
  I kind of want to. I was going for more weird than
• 1:22:17
  big star at the time. Interesting.
• 1:22:20
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:22:22
  So that's generally it for people that I didn't get, you
• 1:22:27
  know, like I said, I didn't I didn't shoot for the moon until
• 1:22:30
  the very end and yeah and that's, that's all, that's what
• 1:22:36
  it could have been. So jar, we've wrapped up the
• 1:22:39
  season with brand new questions that we've been asking all of
• 1:22:43
  our guests. It's we're going to do what we
• 1:22:45
  did last wrap up as well. We're going to ask each other
• 1:22:48
  these questions. So we'll take what a surprise,
• 1:22:52
  what a surprise. So we'll take it in turns over
• 1:22:54
  but I've been making a real effort.
• 1:22:55
  When you ask your first questions to not answer them in
• 1:22:58
  my head so that I could answer them here and granted, I noticed
• 1:23:01
  a remember, what some of your questions are.
• 1:23:02
  I know there's something about the movies, but we'll get to
• 1:23:04
  that. It's Joe.
• 1:23:06
  My first question is, what is the food you hate?
• 1:23:10
  Oh a food, I hate olives. Do you give me an olive up and
• 1:23:14
  I'll put it out? Spit right in your eye.
• 1:23:16
  Yeah, I don't like pumpkin. I hate pumpkin.
• 1:23:20
  Really Punk. Hate pumpkins.
• 1:23:21
  It just don't particularly love, avocado.
• 1:23:23
  I'll eat it. If I if it's like in guacamole.
• 1:23:25
  I'm like if it's been put there, I kind of have to eat it but I
• 1:23:29
  never chose it. That's too bad because I've cut,
• 1:23:34
  it was delicious. Okay, well speaking of delicious
• 1:23:37
  things. What is your favorite dessert?
• 1:23:40
  It's either cheesecake or lemon meringue pie.
• 1:23:44
  I'm probably going to go cheesecake But not pumpkin
• 1:23:48
  cheesecake and up pumpkin cheesecake.
• 1:23:50
  You what else? I hate.
• 1:23:50
  Sweet potato. No, that's just.
• 1:23:52
  That's just pumpkin the slot. You still?
• 1:23:54
  Like that's like the color orange.
• 1:23:55
  That's just pumpkin this lying about being a potato anyway.
• 1:23:57
  Go on, get out of here. All right, so, my favorite
• 1:24:01
  dessert is chocolate covered pretzels.
• 1:24:03
  Oh, I could just eat those continuous bit of the line.
• 1:24:07
  Like a, like, a like that episode of, I Love Lucy where
• 1:24:10
  their stuff in this. Yeah, Mouse.
• 1:24:11
  Like, if that was chocolate covered pretzels, I would just
• 1:24:14
  do that for my entire life. I went through with, so I went
• 1:24:16
  to Costco. Yes.
• 1:24:17
  Today with possible, guest of this podcast, my father.
• 1:24:21
  And, and we, and I bought a massive, I think it's like a
• 1:24:25
  one-kilo bag for about 10 bucks of Reese's.
• 1:24:29
  Yeah. Like peanut butter and chocolate
• 1:24:32
  pretzels. And all I have eaten, fuck.
• 1:24:35
  Yeah. I've eaten fast food.
• 1:24:36
  Jim. Yeah.
• 1:24:40
  Joe, what is your go-to karaoke song?
• 1:24:45
  Oh gosh, that's a good question. It depends if I'm singing alone
• 1:24:51
  or with someone else, all right? If I have a second person with
• 1:24:53
  me, if I if someone's with me, Give Me Shelter by The Rolling
• 1:24:58
  Stones. Yeah.
• 1:25:00
  Number one, because I'm not a good singer but that's the kind
• 1:25:03
  of song. I can kind of get belt a little
• 1:25:05
  bit but but if I have someone else with me then they sing the
• 1:25:10
  you know, the female side, you know, Ray.
• 1:25:14
  Rape murder part, and I get to listen to them.
• 1:25:16
  Try to hit those notes, which is been 100% of the time hugely
• 1:25:21
  entertaining to me. Yeah.
• 1:25:24
  If it's a loan, but if I'm by myself.
• 1:25:26
  Yeah. That's a good question.
• 1:25:28
  I don't do karaoke as much as I'd like.
• 1:25:30
  So don't have this answer at my fingertips.
• 1:25:34
  I will say the first song I ever did karaoke to was centerfold by
• 1:25:38
  the Jay geils Band. Yeah.
• 1:25:40
  So that tends to be the first thing.
• 1:25:41
  I think of when I go to karaoke, yeah.
• 1:25:44
  Yeah. Sorry, I've been sorry if I
• 1:25:47
  should also point out, I have been distracted hearing this
• 1:25:49
  because my goddamn cat who is 7 weeks old, has been trying to
• 1:25:53
  chew all of the cables of the Entire Computer.
• 1:25:57
  Sorry, he's little Murray Sparkles.
• 1:26:00
  He's very cute, but I'm going to quickly, just put him out and
• 1:26:02
  then close the door because he's now got a cable that he's
• 1:26:05
  definitely unplugged, and I don't know what it's from.
• 1:26:09
  So let's just make sure my audio still recording, so that's good.
• 1:26:13
  So my might go to karaoke if I'm alone.
• 1:26:20
  It's Kiss From A Rose by Seal If I'm with someone, I don't mind a
• 1:26:29
  bit of, Don't Go Breaking My Heart.
• 1:26:34
  But I I also I also love our shares Turn Back Time.
• 1:26:40
  Wow. Yeah, wow.
• 1:26:42
  But I've got only, you could auto tune yourself, but I've got
• 1:26:45
  a few. I've got a few that I'm sort of
• 1:26:48
  jump between, but those are the main ones.
• 1:26:50
  But I also love like Drops of Jupiter by Train.
• 1:26:54
  Well and then and then don't that what I'm judging you for
• 1:26:57
  that. Don't Stop Me Now by by Queen.
• 1:27:00
  Yeah, yeah. That's well, that's That's a
• 1:27:03
  classic. That's, that's one of the best
• 1:27:04
  karaoke songs. Yeah.
• 1:27:05
  Yeah. Jared let me ask another
• 1:27:08
  question here. Who is your favorite superhero?
• 1:27:14
  I've really like Spider-Man. I really enjoyed like I've
• 1:27:18
  enjoyed all of this. I've enjoyed all the Spider-Man
• 1:27:20
  movies. Not just the top hole in ones
• 1:27:23
  but I really enjoyed the the Tobey Maguire ones.
• 1:27:26
  Andrew Garfield ones are fine. But I really enjoyed that like
• 1:27:30
  I'd loved no way home that was just full three them together.
• 1:27:36
  Yeah probably probably the old yells spitting.
• 1:27:40
  Man, how about you? Yeah, I like a lot of
• 1:27:45
  superheroes which is why I asked this question a big comic book
• 1:27:48
  reader. Yeah, love DC Comics, not the
• 1:27:50
  movies, just the comics. And you know, I I mentioned
• 1:27:54
  earlier, I like a lot of the Obscure guys but growing up.
• 1:27:57
  It's been Martian, Manhunter and Aquaman but to be the real
• 1:28:03
  honest-to-god answer. Its kind of be Superman.
• 1:28:07
  I love Superman. Yeah.
• 1:28:08
  I love everything about Superman.
• 1:28:10
  Yeah. Like I just I think about
• 1:28:11
  Superman and I Feel warmth in my heart.
• 1:28:14
  Yeah, I think Superman is just the best he has cried.
• 1:28:16
  So yeah, it's gotta be that guy. Yo, wasn't great Batman vs
• 1:28:19
  Superman, what? A stupid film know that was
• 1:28:22
  quite bad. Now, imagine imagine loving
• 1:28:24
  Superman as much as I do and then having to watch such a
• 1:28:28
  terrible Superman movie. And I kind of like that because
• 1:28:30
  my brother is a massive Batman fan and I saw that movie with
• 1:28:34
  him and I saw just be heartbreaking, my poor little
• 1:28:37
  bra actions, a little probably older brother but my pride my
• 1:28:41
  Pro Brothers. Heart.
• 1:28:42
  Even stop said he hated it. Joe, let's get philosophical.
• 1:28:46
  So I come down. What is the sound of one hand
• 1:28:48
  clapping? It's so there's nothing that we
• 1:28:54
  do this kids, we're not podcast, have to explain where you just
• 1:28:56
  hold your hand up and you make your your fingers really loose
• 1:28:59
  and you just yeah, that's it. Can't do it.
• 1:29:05
  Like that not doing it. Here's your fingers are just
• 1:29:08
  completely loose, you just move your hand up and down, okay,
• 1:29:10
  okay, that's it. Yeah, but somebody, it's not
• 1:29:12
  backing your sounds now, you know, when I do it anyway, we
• 1:29:15
  can hopefully a bit limp. All right.
• 1:29:18
  Sorry. Sorry, I'm not said, great
• 1:29:20
  things. I just want to teach you
• 1:29:23
  something Jared, what teach you a thing?
• 1:29:25
  All right, if there was a muppet based on yourself, we had you
• 1:29:30
  want to perform it. Oh, Pay Dolan's, I think and
• 1:29:37
  it's funny. So, here Linds.
• 1:29:41
  When I went to the set them up, it's actually everyone.
• 1:29:44
  I've spoken to him since I got a couple of live things with
• 1:29:47
  injuring covid and he said the same thing.
• 1:29:49
  He goes, he really takes a look at us and he goes, he takes a
• 1:29:53
  little bit. So what?
• 1:29:54
  He's like, heard of interviews and he listens to us.
• 1:29:56
  He goes, he takes little bits for Walter.
• 1:29:58
  And so, I feel like Walter there is, there is a little bit of you
• 1:30:02
  me. Ryan other Ryan.
• 1:30:04
  And all the fans in Walter. Oh, that's good to know.
• 1:30:08
  Yeah, so like that. Yeah so so yeah I think Peter
• 1:30:13
  lens because it already almost kind of does nice.
• 1:30:15
  Yeah. What about you about you?
• 1:30:17
  Yeah for me. Well so I've answered this
• 1:30:20
  question. I'm podcast before in my answer
• 1:30:24
  Remains the Same is ideally in a perfect world.
• 1:30:27
  I'm up a piece on me, would be performed by Frank Oz if only
• 1:30:30
  because every character of the Frank is ever created or
• 1:30:33
  performed. Initially has gone on to be a
• 1:30:36
  huge star because been like, like one of like a continued,
• 1:30:41
  you know, we're still hanging out with Fozzie Bear after all
• 1:30:43
  these years that kind of thing. Yeah, but truth be told like, I
• 1:30:46
  don't think that my personality lends itself to a friend, cause
• 1:30:48
  character. I think, I think it probably
• 1:30:52
  Richard Hunt. I'd kind of like the idea of
• 1:30:53
  Richard. You've got to be got some rich,
• 1:30:55
  kid, energy them up at Johannes little bit.
• 1:30:58
  That's pretty good. I don't know.
• 1:31:00
  Yeah, now here's an interesting thing jar.
• 1:31:03
  So I usually We asked people pick a number between one and
• 1:31:06
  two hundred and fifty, right? I only realized recently that
• 1:31:11
  I've actually only got 200 questions, not 250.
• 1:31:14
  Luckily, no one ever picked like 212 because I would have had
• 1:31:17
  nothing. So I will say pick a number
• 1:31:20
  between one and two hundred fifty, but if you could actually
• 1:31:22
  pick a number between one and two hundred, that would really
• 1:31:24
  help me out. 249. No, I'll go with 178 178.
• 1:31:35
  Okay Joe. What is the first thing you do
• 1:31:38
  in the morning? First thing I do in the morning.
• 1:31:42
  Well so I mean like everyone, you know, use the restroom
• 1:31:45
  brushing teeth, whatever. But lately, I've got this chair
• 1:31:49
  that sits in the window is get some natural sunlight and I sit
• 1:31:53
  there for 15, 20 minutes, you know.
• 1:31:56
  Look at my South to the Daily Wordle.
• 1:31:59
  That sort of thing. It's nice.
• 1:32:00
  Nice way to kind of, yeah. Start the day, nice and slow.
• 1:32:02
  Yeah, you and I you and I have a similar thing because I wake up,
• 1:32:06
  I set my alarm for about 10 minutes before when I wake up.
• 1:32:09
  Well, perhaps actually get up and start getting ready for
• 1:32:11
  work, or, you know, that and I am and I do the world because me
• 1:32:14
  and my friends. We sent to each other how we've
• 1:32:16
  done. So I do that, then I think, I've
• 1:32:19
  gotta go text chain with my family.
• 1:32:21
  We do. Yeah.
• 1:32:21
  What the world? Yeah, I do that.
• 1:32:23
  I do frames, which is a movie one.
• 1:32:26
  There's one called acting. The actor actor, all and movie
• 1:32:29
  doll. So I do all those and I just sit
• 1:32:31
  there for 10 minutes and get all those done.
• 1:32:33
  Thanks, like, right now. I'm right to start my day.
• 1:32:36
  Yeah, right. Yeah.
• 1:32:37
  My brains on now, let's go. All right.
• 1:32:40
  Now, I need you to pick another number.
• 1:32:41
  This one's between 1 and 100. 46 46, on the American Film
• 1:32:52
  institute's, list of the top. 100 movies of all time.
• 1:32:56
  The 46 number 46 movie. Is It Happened?
• 1:33:01
  One Night. Have you seen it?
• 1:33:03
  And if so, what did you think of it?
• 1:33:05
  I definitely haven't seen it. You know, one not and 1934 film.
• 1:33:12
  Yeah, Brett Clark Gable. I mean, I've heard of like a won
• 1:33:16
  best picture. Yeah, get it.
• 1:33:18
  Okay. No, I have not seen it.
• 1:33:22
  So I haven't got an opinion on it, but I mean, it's a one.
• 1:33:25
  I'll tell you my favorite pretty good.
• 1:33:28
  I'll tell you my opinion. It's great.
• 1:33:29
  It's a great movie. It's hysterical.
• 1:33:32
  It's a screwball comedy rare for a comedy to win, best picture,
• 1:33:37
  but it did in that year and you should check it out.
• 1:33:41
  Yeah. Oh well I'll put it on the list.
• 1:33:44
  So there we go. So I'm going to I'm gonna we're
• 1:33:46
  gonna finish this podcast. I'm going to go watch It
• 1:33:49
  Happened One. Not that's it.
• 1:33:52
  I guess for to introduce our guest star, at least for the
• 1:33:54
  moment. I mean, yeah.
• 1:33:56
  Like we've said we've got, we've got other things we want to do
• 1:33:58
  together and we both good ideas and how maybe I'll get my dad in
• 1:34:01
  on a podcast. God, no, you want him here.
• 1:34:05
  So I mean, I thank you for being, I guess the Oh, Captain
• 1:34:12
  of this ship? Yeah, it's something.
• 1:34:15
  I was going to say the same really enjoy.
• 1:34:17
  You are not only brought on so many Greek guests in both of
• 1:34:22
  these seasons of this show that like was it is a gift to me that
• 1:34:25
  I get to talk to them but you gave me a reason to bring in my
• 1:34:28
  guests as well. So thank you for doing the show
• 1:34:32
  with me. It was an absolute blast and I'm
• 1:34:36
  looking forward to the next collaboration between us in the
• 1:34:40
  meantime. We have so many things in the
• 1:34:43
  works for this podcast Channel. Right now, there's at least four
• 1:34:47
  podcast Series in pre-production right now.
• 1:34:53
  So I hope that everyone listening to this will continue
• 1:34:56
  to stay subscribed to the Muppet fan podcast will topics.com
• 1:35:00
  Channel. We got a lot of fun stuff coming
• 1:35:02
  up, can't we talk about most of it, but I will say among the
• 1:35:06
  things that you'll be seeing, will be more of the great Muppet
• 1:35:10
  fandom panel. More hubba-wha and a couple
• 1:35:14
  things that are going to be little surprises.
• 1:35:17
  So we'll see. We'll stick around.
• 1:35:21
  Yeah, you're in for a win for a wonderful ride.
• 1:35:25
  Yes you are. I didn't lie, right?
• 1:35:27
  I'll put in. Then why couldn't we ride if I
• 1:35:29
  can get the rights to it, I'll put in for not get the rights
• 1:35:32
  left there don't even try. They're actually kind of treat
• 1:35:36
  yourself for what you just saying because we're going to
• 1:35:39
  end up paying, you know, Sony whole bunch of money.
• 1:35:43
  God, I wouldn't have got a money.
• 1:35:45
  I bought a house, only not Sony Sony doesn't on that movie.
• 1:35:49
  Why do you say that Joe you dummy?
• 1:35:51
  Hey, everyone. I hope you enjoyed listening to
• 1:35:54
  us and He could be able to cut that and I won't make it and
• 1:36:01
  shit. I'm just a stupid and outro
• 1:36:04
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• 1:36:37
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• 1:36:40
  then then then then I got down behind cuz I was Takin a please
• 1:36:43
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  stop, please stop.