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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Frodday, October seventeenth. I'm
- 0:03Speaker 1: your host Tom Moore. The Wisconsin game in one day,
- 0:05Speaker 1: the game against Michigan in forty three days. Today, we're
- 0:08Speaker 1: looking at the Ohio State defense, how it performed against
- 0:10Speaker 1: the Illinois offense, whether the align I have maybe stumbled
- 0:14Speaker 1: upon something that might help opposing teams attack Matt Patricia's defense.
- 0:18Speaker 1: And we're gonna be talking about that with our buddy
- 0:20Speaker 1: Ross Folton, the ex's and OS guru at buckey Huddle
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- 0:35Speaker 1: a reservation today. All right, So before we get to Ross,
- 0:37Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you hear from one of our other
- 0:39Speaker 1: good friends, Brett Bilama, Illinois head coach. After the game,
- 0:43Speaker 1: he had some rather pointed thoughts. We're gonna hear the
- 0:46Speaker 1: audio drop out here.
- 0:47Speaker 2: At one point.
- 0:48Speaker 1: That's because Brett says a word you're not supposed to
- 0:49Speaker 1: say on TV. So it was asked about the use
- 0:53Speaker 1: of tempo by the Illinois offense and how that helped
- 0:57Speaker 1: them maybe achieve some things at other teams have not,
- 1:00Speaker 1: such as reaching double digits, scoring multiple touchdowns, and so forth.
- 1:04Speaker 1: That was all in the second half of the game.
- 1:08Speaker 1: So here's Brett Brielamo's quick thoughts on how they used
- 1:11Speaker 1: tempo in the game.
- 1:12Speaker 3: I knew I actually wanted to go tumple the whole
- 1:14Speaker 3: freaking game because they couldn't do with it right, Like
- 1:16Speaker 3: we were doing a lot of really good things. So
- 1:19Speaker 3: in retrospect, I think we could have done that a
- 1:21Speaker 3: little bit sooner, a little bit quicker. Our quarterbacks really
- 1:23Speaker 3: good with it, but they got good players all over
- 1:26Speaker 3: the plays Mass obviously a very talented coordinator. They got
- 1:30Speaker 3: really good personnel. But it seemed like when we went
- 1:33Speaker 3: tempo that things really began to work our way. We
- 1:35Speaker 3: just needed to go to it probably a little sooner,
- 1:37Speaker 3: a little more often.
- 1:38Speaker 1: All Right, So there's Brett Beielma's thoughts. Now, much more importantly,
- 1:41Speaker 1: let's get Ross Fulton's thoughts on that. Ross We're going
- 1:44Speaker 1: to start. We've got three plays here from the portion
- 1:47Speaker 1: of the game where Illinois was running tempo. The first one,
- 1:51Speaker 1: they have some success on the ground, and that is
- 1:53Speaker 1: not something that teams have had a lot of success
- 1:54Speaker 1: against Ohio State with this year. How much did the
- 1:58Speaker 1: tempo kind of factor into all of the success that
- 2:01Speaker 1: Wisconsin had and then maybe the success they had on
- 2:03Speaker 1: this drive in this play?
- 2:05Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Illinois they you know, I know, Beelman
- 2:08Speaker 4: talks about how, you know, he went back and watched
- 2:11Speaker 4: old Patriots games and thought he needed to use tempo
- 2:14Speaker 4: and spread out Matt Patricia's defense, and I think there's
- 2:18Speaker 4: probably a little something to it. I think also, you know,
- 2:23Speaker 4: I think we need a little bit more like a
- 2:25Speaker 4: sample size because there's like the other factor at play
- 2:27Speaker 4: here is without Lorenzo Styles, I think they were a
- 2:31Speaker 4: little bit limited in what they could do in the
- 2:34Speaker 4: back end because you know, Jermaine Matthews obviously was impactful
- 2:39Speaker 4: as a nickel as we'll see, but like a lot
- 2:41Speaker 4: of what Styles does, as we talked about, is play safety,
- 2:44Speaker 4: and that allows them to sort of like rotate disguise more,
- 2:48Speaker 4: rotate guys more, breakdowns down in the box more. And
- 2:53Speaker 4: I think they seemed a little bit more hesitant to
- 2:55Speaker 4: have Matthew's function as an actual safety who's much more
- 2:59Speaker 4: in that like additional slot nickel role. So those I
- 3:03Speaker 4: think those factors are both at play in terms of
- 3:06Speaker 4: in this game. But I do think the tempo probably
- 3:10Speaker 4: limited a little bit in terms of like the disguise
- 3:12Speaker 4: and what they could do. I mean, but they can
- 3:14Speaker 4: bind it here. So for instance, like this is a
- 3:17Speaker 4: four by zero unbalanced look. So obviously when you do
- 3:20Speaker 4: that with tempo, like the defense has to respond quickly
- 3:24Speaker 4: to match that personnel and a just and honestly doesn't
- 3:28Speaker 4: find here. I mean, they're lined up, they're getting a
- 3:30Speaker 4: cover one over, which is like you know, pretty simple
- 3:32Speaker 4: but an easy way to deal with it, and they
- 3:34Speaker 4: have every gap accounted for.
- 3:36Speaker 2: It's just that the backside safety here, Dylan.
- 3:39Speaker 4: McLain has to play the backside the gap, which, like
- 3:43Speaker 4: you know, we've talked about like safety is having to
- 3:44Speaker 4: fill into your gaps, like not necessarily ideal, but having
- 3:49Speaker 4: your safety do it is not the worst. He just
- 3:51Speaker 4: takes a bad angle rank like he's too late to it.
- 3:54Speaker 4: He comes downhill to vertically and so they get to
- 3:59Speaker 4: the edge and then they're obviously no other support out
- 4:02Speaker 4: there with the end balance. So Illinois hit a couple
- 4:04Speaker 4: of plays out of this, like four by zero running
- 4:06Speaker 4: the ball. That was you know, I'd say the majority
- 4:09Speaker 4: did their success on the ground those two run plays,
- 4:11Speaker 4: So not a lot, but.
- 4:14Speaker 2: You know there's some design to it on that one,
- 4:17Speaker 2: all right.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Next up, that was a little bit of a running
- 4:19Speaker 1: success plit story for Illinois. Now let's get to a
- 4:22Speaker 1: little bit of a passing success story. They did not
- 4:25Speaker 1: have a ton of success growing downfield against Ohio State.
- 4:29Speaker 1: This is one example where they did. Is this one
- 4:32Speaker 1: where you're chalking up the tempo? Is this when you're
- 4:34Speaker 1: chalking it up to the absence of Lorenzo styles or
- 4:36Speaker 1: is there something else at play here?
- 4:39Speaker 4: This one I would actually talk chalk up to the
- 4:43Speaker 4: this is the sim pressure scheme not getting home. And
- 4:47Speaker 4: so you know, this happened a few times where I'd say,
- 4:51Speaker 4: Matt Patricia, he's using some like zone blitz five or
- 4:56Speaker 4: more rusher schemes, but a lot of it is like
- 4:58Speaker 4: dizzy sim pressure, right, And this one is a boundary
- 5:03Speaker 4: corner blitz combined with a non traditional tampa. So that
- 5:07Speaker 4: just means that like you're again, you're we talked about
- 5:09Speaker 4: the disguise, you're like rotating.
- 5:10Speaker 2: You're playing Tampa too.
- 5:11Speaker 4: So you have two D four hunner with Caleb Downs
- 5:14Speaker 4: as the pole runner, but your guys are getting into
- 5:17Speaker 4: it from different positions. So like you know, bo Atkinson's
- 5:20Speaker 4: dropping back here as the hook curl, and so Downs
- 5:25Speaker 4: obviously is dropping from back from the deep middle, the
- 5:28Speaker 4: place where I think Ohio State has been a little
- 5:32Speaker 4: bit vulnerable as the season's progress has been on these
- 5:35Speaker 4: like middle of the field throws, both like kind of quick.
- 5:38Speaker 2: Game as well as like these mid range throws.
- 5:43Speaker 4: You know, I guess you'd kind of expect that against
- 5:45Speaker 4: Prince primarily zone defense. You know this one, I think
- 5:50Speaker 4: you know, they just get underneath kind of this dagger concepts,
- 5:54Speaker 4: So you get the hole runner getting pulled by that
- 5:56Speaker 4: seam route and then throw the deep dig underneath. A
- 5:59Speaker 4: good design against Camp two, But again it was like that,
- 6:03Speaker 4: you know, if you run the sim pressure and the
- 6:06Speaker 4: boundary corner, Platz doesn't get there eventually, Like in a zone,
- 6:10Speaker 4: especially like when you're spot dropping, there'll be some holes
- 6:12Speaker 4: for a good quarterback, which Almeyer is to find some gaps.
- 6:16Speaker 2: So again a couple of times they hit those, you know.
- 6:19Speaker 4: I mean, the thing is, it's weird about the final
- 6:22Speaker 4: stats are actually like don't tell the story of this
- 6:24Speaker 4: game very well. You know, we like the park are flaming.
- 6:28Speaker 4: I like to talk about, like how bad did we
- 6:29Speaker 4: get beat? Like Illinois actually like had a higher success rate,
- 6:33Speaker 4: but so much of it's in the fourth quarter when
- 6:36Speaker 4: it's not considered like you know, these these advanced statues,
- 6:40Speaker 4: garbage time is twenty eight or more points. I honestly
- 6:43Speaker 4: it was up twenty four, so the garbage time didn't
- 6:45Speaker 4: kick in. But honestly, they put their backups in. So
- 6:47Speaker 4: Illinois had one touchdown drive against the starters that those
- 6:51Speaker 4: two plays were on where they use the tempo, and
- 6:53Speaker 4: then the second one was you know, obviously put some
- 6:56Speaker 4: backups in.
- 6:57Speaker 2: It was that fourth quarter.
- 6:58Speaker 4: So you know, Illinois like game over one hundred yards
- 7:00Speaker 4: in that fourth quarter when the game is largely over.
- 7:02Speaker 4: So I don't think there's like any significant causes for concern,
- 7:06Speaker 4: but obviously to the tempo and certainly attacking the middle
- 7:11Speaker 4: of the field will be something I'll continue to watch.
- 7:14Speaker 2: That's Matt Patrician defense, all right.
- 7:18Speaker 1: So that's a couple of things that did not go
- 7:19Speaker 1: particularly well for the Ohio State defense. Most of the
- 7:22Speaker 1: rest of the day went pretty well or really well.
- 7:26Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a little bit, but first off,
- 7:28Speaker 1: wanted to take a look at some of the stuff
- 7:30Speaker 1: where they're just showing some different looks in coverage.
- 7:34Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're, you know, again our high State every week.
- 7:38Speaker 4: Matt Patricia keeps expanding, I feel like a little by
- 7:41Speaker 4: a little of the playbook, right, and so this is
- 7:43Speaker 4: actually like half quarter quarter. So this is a or
- 7:46Speaker 4: at least that's what Big Fangio calls it. So you're
- 7:49Speaker 4: playing cover two to the field and cover four to
- 7:51Speaker 4: the battery. So we talked about quarter quarter a half
- 7:53Speaker 4: before to that, which is where you're playing cover four
- 7:56Speaker 4: to the field and cover to the boundary. So a
- 7:58Speaker 4: little bit different look here. You've got the two underneath
- 8:01Speaker 4: linebackers and sort of robbers. We talked about how, you know,
- 8:04Speaker 4: teams have had some success gets Ohio State with these
- 8:07Speaker 4: sort of quick game underneath throws or middle of the field,
- 8:10Speaker 4: so you're trying to minimize that. Obviously they Illinois some
- 8:13Speaker 4: completes this for a short game, but again, just different
- 8:16Speaker 4: looks that Ohio State is presenting quarterbacks. And you know,
- 8:21Speaker 4: so far, you always worry about, like we talked about this,
- 8:24Speaker 4: the offense that you know, the more you put on
- 8:26Speaker 4: people's plates, the more bust you have or you know,
- 8:28Speaker 4: miss assignments or execution. But so far the Ohigo State
- 8:31Speaker 4: defense has been effectively handling like more and more scheme.
- 8:35Speaker 4: So obviously the more things you can run, particularly in
- 8:37Speaker 4: the back end, the more difficult you make for best quarterbacks.
- 8:41Speaker 1: All right, and so next up we're going to get
- 8:44Speaker 1: here we go to the happy portion of the of
- 8:46Speaker 1: the show, and this is Jerem Jermaine Matthews. We talked
- 8:50Speaker 1: about him earlier and I saw a lot of people
- 8:53Speaker 1: asking should he just stay in the slot, And it
- 8:55Speaker 1: sounds like the answer in your mind is probably not,
- 8:58Speaker 1: just because of some of the other stuff that that
- 9:01Speaker 1: Lorenzo styles lets them do and all that in terms
- 9:03Speaker 1: of being able to play that sort of safety role.
- 9:06Speaker 1: But man, Oman, when you looked at him in the
- 9:07Speaker 1: slot against Hank Batty, you understood why do people you know,
- 9:10Speaker 1: why people thought, hey, this might be a you know,
- 9:13Speaker 1: something that they want to think about long term. Because
- 9:16Speaker 1: Hank Baby came in as their leading receiver for Illinois
- 9:18Speaker 1: and Matthews, who really hasn't gotten thrown on all that
- 9:21Speaker 1: much this year when when Illinois was throwing the ball
- 9:24Speaker 1: with his way, he was making stuff happen. This first
- 9:27Speaker 1: one exam is an example of that sort that tipped
- 9:29Speaker 1: pass that ends up getting picked off by Peyton Pierce.
- 9:33Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, you know, A for the reasons
- 9:35Speaker 4: I said about styles and B because you want to
- 9:38Speaker 4: put your best eleven out there, I don't think they have.
- 9:40Speaker 2: Devin Sanchez is ready as a corner.
- 9:42Speaker 4: Like Illinois went after him right away, he's sort of
- 9:45Speaker 4: gotten picked on when he's been out there. That's you know,
- 9:48Speaker 4: he's a true freshman. So it's not like it's not
- 9:50Speaker 4: like anything bad per se. It's just I don't think
- 9:53Speaker 4: you're putting your best eleven if you're doing that that said,
- 9:57Speaker 4: I do if you were playing a ton of Cover one,
- 10:00Speaker 4: which you know, again is not exactly not what all
- 10:02Speaker 4: Saints doing, right. They're playing some, but what's really like
- 10:06Speaker 4: where they've been really successful is with the disguise and
- 10:08Speaker 4: like mixing you know, zone and.
- 10:10Speaker 2: Man coverages that.
- 10:13Speaker 4: But if you were playing a tone of Cover one,
- 10:14Speaker 4: obviously Jermaine Matthews here is going to be a better
- 10:16Speaker 4: man coverage player than Lorenzo Styles is particularly against as
- 10:21Speaker 4: you said, Hank Baby is as a slot receiver. So
- 10:23Speaker 4: this is obviously a way to take away some of
- 10:25Speaker 4: those quick game throws by playing cover one.
- 10:29Speaker 2: You know, every every coverage.
- 10:30Speaker 4: Has its pluses and minuses, and so you know, cover
- 10:33Speaker 4: one certainly helps take away some of this underneath stuff,
- 10:35Speaker 4: particularly if you're pressed up. And so obviously Illinois tried
- 10:39Speaker 4: to throw this early great play by Matthews on cover
- 10:43Speaker 4: one rat tail downs by rat, we just mean like
- 10:45Speaker 4: the underneath guys, the other safety coming down, and uh,
- 10:50Speaker 4: you know, so that's again they are able to play
- 10:54Speaker 4: cover one, and like they will do it. I would
- 10:57Speaker 4: still say it's a change up to their zone. But
- 11:00Speaker 4: I think you'll continue to see, like if teams really
- 11:02Speaker 4: try to throw a lot of quick games stuff like this,
- 11:04Speaker 4: they'll mix it in. And you know which with Matthews,
- 11:07Speaker 4: you can always if a team has like like Baby,
- 11:11Speaker 4: if like they're best receivers in the slot, there's certainly
- 11:14Speaker 4: things they can do in terms of like you know,
- 11:17Speaker 4: flipping guys around or following covers where you know, maybe
- 11:20Speaker 4: you put Lorenzo Styles depending on the formation on the
- 11:23Speaker 4: outside receiver at Matthew's inside.
- 11:26Speaker 1: All right, now the next one. This is the Buckeyes
- 11:29Speaker 1: defending the run really well. We've talked a bunch over
- 11:32Speaker 1: the last couple of years about spill and kill. That
- 11:34Speaker 1: was something we talked about a lot during the Jim
- 11:36Speaker 1: Knowles era. I don't know if this technically counts as
- 11:38Speaker 1: a spill and kill concept or design here, but it
- 11:43Speaker 1: sort of functionally looks like what that's what happens. There's
- 11:45Speaker 1: nothing inside, running back goes outside and Caleb downs as
- 11:49Speaker 1: they're waiting for him for not much of a game.
- 11:53Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's spill in the sense because generally speaking,
- 11:57Speaker 4: you don't want to box counter like by box you're
- 12:00Speaker 4: trying to force the football inside.
- 12:02Speaker 2: You really want to spill counter like this.
- 12:05Speaker 4: I just think like, yes, Illinois hit those a couple
- 12:07Speaker 4: of runs out of tempo, but for the most part,
- 12:09Speaker 4: Ohiose continues to be very difficult to run against, you know,
- 12:13Speaker 4: particularly as I said, ILLINOI spread them.
- 12:15Speaker 2: Out a lot. This is twelve personnel.
- 12:18Speaker 4: Ohio Say continued to largely respond with their three linebackers,
- 12:22Speaker 4: and so this is the six to one look that
- 12:27Speaker 4: you know, Patricia with the Patriots had so much success
- 12:29Speaker 4: against the Rams and the Super Bowl against their run game.
- 12:33Speaker 4: But yeah, so and armal Ree has just been you know,
- 12:38Speaker 4: it's hard to even people refer to him as a
- 12:40Speaker 4: linebacker sometimes. I don't know if linebacker is the right
- 12:44Speaker 4: term for him. He plays as much, if not more,
- 12:47Speaker 4: on the edge as he does as a a off
- 12:50Speaker 4: the ball linebacker. And you know, he's really effective in
- 12:54Speaker 4: this role, right And so you know, usually the six
- 12:58Speaker 4: to one people say you want to run gap ski
- 13:00Speaker 4: against it, but he's been pretty effective taking on leave
- 13:03Speaker 4: locks and forcing to spill and obviously when you Kaleen
- 13:06Speaker 4: downs there to spill too, it's a pretty effective combination,
- 13:11Speaker 4: all right.
- 13:11Speaker 1: Next one, this is the play where the receiver was
- 13:14Speaker 1: initially I think rule to catch and then they overturned
- 13:17Speaker 1: it because the receiver had stepped out of bounds and
- 13:19Speaker 1: had not re established inbounds. This is one where there
- 13:24Speaker 1: you can just see Luke Altmeyer scanning the field and
- 13:26Speaker 1: there's very clearly nothing there for him, and Peyton Pierce
- 13:30Speaker 1: is there kind of is almost like a spy to
- 13:33Speaker 1: sort of keep things, you know, keep things in front
- 13:37Speaker 1: of him, and then forced Luke Meyer to make.
- 13:40Speaker 2: A throat again.
- 13:41Speaker 4: So we see these like you know, using some man
- 13:44Speaker 4: against these spread formations.
- 13:45Speaker 2: Right here we have like a wide bunch. Illinois ran
- 13:48Speaker 2: this a lot.
- 13:48Speaker 4: So you get this like cover one where you're playing
- 13:50Speaker 4: locking levels so you can see the three defenders at
- 13:53Speaker 4: different levels so that you don't get like picked or
- 13:55Speaker 4: rupted when these receivers are close to each other, and
- 13:59Speaker 4: then you know you got your This is a ah
- 14:04Speaker 4: a bears uh what putting? Alexander refers to it sim pressure, right,
- 14:10Speaker 4: So you're you're you're basically using the noseguard. He's coming
- 14:14Speaker 4: to the backside Kenya and Jackson's trying to take that
- 14:17Speaker 4: guard and they're trying to free it up for r
- 14:19Speaker 4: VL Reese. We just talked about being not being an
- 14:22Speaker 4: off fall liebacker, but here he is an off fall liebacker,
- 14:24Speaker 4: but being a pass rusher and taking on the running
- 14:27Speaker 4: back and obviously forcing an Erran throw. So you know,
- 14:33Speaker 4: again we're seeing a lot of these, like, you know,
- 14:36Speaker 4: different sort of sim pressures. I would say, right right,
- 14:41Speaker 4: you're like here we're running. You got still have like
- 14:46Speaker 4: a rat in the middle of the robber in the
- 14:47Speaker 4: middle of the field that actually a double robbers Pierce
- 14:50Speaker 4: like we talked about, but using bringing forward.
- 14:52Speaker 2: But freeing up Ree. That's the rusher, all right.
- 14:56Speaker 1: And then our last play, this is another example of
- 14:59Speaker 1: Jermaine Matthews really making stuff happen. This was that strip
- 15:03Speaker 1: sack just on a corner blitz gets Altmeyer for the
- 15:06Speaker 1: backside strip sack and ended up giving the Ohio State
- 15:10Speaker 1: really good position where they were able to convert on
- 15:12Speaker 1: that relatively quickly.
- 15:13Speaker 4: Afterwards, every week they just kind of add on more
- 15:16Speaker 4: and more of these simp pressures right where you're still
- 15:18Speaker 4: bringing four, but they're just coming from different places. And
- 15:23Speaker 4: here the U so you're you know, you're walked. You
- 15:27Speaker 4: have Reese walked up. Obviously that's going to threaten the center.
- 15:30Speaker 4: He figs and drops back. So they're just playing a
- 15:33Speaker 4: cover three at the end of the day, right where
- 15:35Speaker 4: you got three deep, you got four under and you're
- 15:38Speaker 4: you're dropping off both your linebackers but as well as
- 15:42Speaker 4: Kenning out of Jackson is playing the boundary pro flat.
- 15:44Speaker 4: But then you're bringing the nickel blitz and we talk
- 15:47Speaker 4: about a con effected again. There's certainly things that Jermaine
- 15:50Speaker 4: Matthews did from that role. They were very effective, and
- 15:54Speaker 4: so this is one of them, right, bringing pressure causing
- 15:57Speaker 4: a fumble and so lead into turnover one of the three.
- 16:01Speaker 2: For h day of the day.
- 16:03Speaker 1: All right, And we had a member on our site
- 16:05Speaker 1: ask if we could do a little bit of a
- 16:07Speaker 1: preview if the look ahead game, and we know Ross
- 16:09Speaker 1: has obviously not done extraordinarily in depth scouting on Wisconsin
- 16:14Speaker 1: and grinding film all week, but wanted to get some
- 16:17Speaker 1: kind of more general thoughts on the game. And one
- 16:20Speaker 1: of them is, I know we talked earlier at tempo
- 16:23Speaker 1: and that not all the issues that people were sort
- 16:25Speaker 1: of chalking up to tempo were really caused by tempo.
- 16:28Speaker 1: But is that something that you're expecting Wisconsin to maybe
- 16:32Speaker 1: try or mean, Wisconsin's offense has been terrible, terrible, like
- 16:36Speaker 1: no good, very very bad all the time, terrible this year.
- 16:40Speaker 1: So is that something that could be an advantage for
- 16:44Speaker 1: them in some way or does that just get the
- 16:45Speaker 1: three and out over faster and put their defense back.
- 16:48Speaker 2: On the field.
- 16:50Speaker 4: I mean, I do not think of them as a
- 16:52Speaker 4: team that can use temple. I mean, like what Illinois
- 16:55Speaker 4: was doing is fits within their DNA, so to speak,
- 16:59Speaker 4: and they have a fetcheran quarterback that's very good. I
- 17:03Speaker 4: worry that people are like underestimate at Illinoi's offense and
- 17:08Speaker 4: Lukevaldmeyer like they're very good.
- 17:11Speaker 2: So I would be surprised if Wisconsin tries to just tempo.
- 17:14Speaker 4: I think they'll try to like slow the game down
- 17:17Speaker 4: and eat possessions or limited possessions. But you know, I
- 17:21Speaker 4: guess you can see if imitation is the sincerest form
- 17:25Speaker 4: of flattery.
- 17:26Speaker 1: So all right, so there's just a little bit of
- 17:28Speaker 1: a teaser on the Ohio State defense. Now to the
- 17:30Speaker 1: Ohio State offense and what to look for from them
- 17:33Speaker 1: this weekend. We've obviously talked on the show earlier in
- 17:37Speaker 1: the week about the fact that they're probably just sort
- 17:40Speaker 1: of working on some stuff and they probably don't have
- 17:42Speaker 1: all the RPO tags turned on on some things. With
- 17:46Speaker 1: this Beagie game, Lehouse State is once again a big favorite.
- 17:49Speaker 1: Are you expecting this to be another game where Ohio
- 17:51Speaker 1: State fans are probably kind of banging their heads against
- 17:53Speaker 1: the wall and wondering why they're not really opening things up?
- 17:56Speaker 1: Or is this a week where you think Ohio State
- 17:58Speaker 1: tries to maybe put a little bit more on sans plate.
- 18:01Speaker 4: I think it's a week where you try to put
- 18:03Speaker 4: a little bit more on his plate. Like I think
- 18:05Speaker 4: they've had two road games against good teams, right, I mean,
- 18:09Speaker 4: I think if anything, like Washington is better than I
- 18:13Speaker 4: think people even gave them credit for at the time,
- 18:16Speaker 4: Like they're still very under ranked and the AP top
- 18:20Speaker 4: twenty five relative to like their advanced SAT ratings. We'll
- 18:23Speaker 4: see how they do the Saturday, obviously, and Illinois is
- 18:25Speaker 4: a really good team at home, and that was a,
- 18:26Speaker 4: you know, a difficult spot. So this is their first
- 18:30Speaker 4: road game where I think they should you know, can
- 18:33Speaker 4: all be expected to win pretty handily. So I think
- 18:35Speaker 4: this is a good opportunity on the road to put
- 18:38Speaker 4: a little bit more on Julian Sand's plate.
- 18:40Speaker 2: You know.
- 18:40Speaker 4: Ryan Day had a comment during his press conference about,
- 18:43Speaker 4: you know, they've had six games now, trying different things out,
- 18:45Speaker 4: and they you know, have a I'm obviously paraphrasing here,
- 18:49Speaker 4: but I took it as, you know, we now know
- 18:52Speaker 4: what some guys can do and can't do, and we've
- 18:54Speaker 4: got to stop asking guys to do things they can't do.
- 18:58Speaker 4: I took that as a reference to some of the
- 19:00Speaker 4: the multi tight end sets and the usage of the
- 19:03Speaker 4: tight ends, and so I've firstly a been looking for them.
- 19:06Speaker 4: I think they'll be a little bit more spread out
- 19:08Speaker 4: on Saturday. I think we'll see maybe some use of tempo.
- 19:12Speaker 4: I think we'll see some more throwing on early downs.
- 19:17Speaker 4: And as I said, put a little bit more on
- 19:19Speaker 4: Saine's plate. And you know that's not just like throwing
- 19:22Speaker 4: vertically downfield, but just like giving him some more early
- 19:24Speaker 4: down opportunities to throw the football, whether that's off of
- 19:28Speaker 4: live RPOs or just you know, down drop back past concepts.
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