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The Podcast Interview Turned PR Nightmare · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Tammy Hembrough's
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  Speaker 1: sisters have labeled her fiance, Matt Zukowski, as an immature baby.
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  Speaker 1: Lucy Jackson has spilled the tea on her breakups And
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  Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley reveals dramatic fox eye results. But first, Katy
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  Speaker 1: Perry's grand final performance is going viral on TikTok and
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  Speaker 1: it has even made headlines in the US after a
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  Speaker 1: dancer suffered a costume mishap. I love this story so much.
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  Speaker 1: It's the story that keeps on giving because this mishap
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  Speaker 1: happened when Katy was singing Teenage Dream and her set
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  Speaker 1: had this really futuristic sort of space age vibe to it.
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  Speaker 1: But then at the same time, it was very early
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  Speaker 1: 2000s and She wore speed dealer sunnies and had this
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  Speaker 1: blue gladiator-esque breastplate on with white shorts and these deconstructed
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  Speaker 1: combat pants. What did you think of the outfit? I
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  Speaker 1: thought she looked amazing. And she was also looking very
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  Speaker 1: bronze because she ended up getting a fake tan by
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  Speaker 1: Bec Judd and Nadia Bartel's business, which is Spray Oz. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I saw the TikTok of the woman who actually performed
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  Speaker 1: the spray tan on Katy Perry and it just made
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  Speaker 1: me think how odd it must be for celebrities. to
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  Speaker 1: have spray tans done because you just know everyone would
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  Speaker 1: be talking about it. Or they'd be taking everything in
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  Speaker 1: and analysing you. Now getting into this mishap, so it
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  Speaker 1: happened with one of her backup dancers and they were
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  Speaker 1: dressed in these metallic space suits and they were holding
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  Speaker 1: oversized foil balloons. So they were using them as props
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  Speaker 1: to dance with. And things didn't go exactly to plan
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  Speaker 1: for one dancer whose balloon popped mid-performance and instantly deflated.
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  Speaker 1: So this stood out so much in the sea of
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  Speaker 1: over 150 dancers. And to the dancers' credit, they carried
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  Speaker 1: on trying their best to dance with this deflated balloon
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  Speaker 1: and not detract from the performance. That would be the
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  Speaker 1: worst thing ever because every time there's a huge event
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  Speaker 1: on like the AFL Grand Final, you just know there
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  Speaker 1: are the armchair spectators at home waiting for something like
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  Speaker 1: this to happen. And it didn't take long for this
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  Speaker 1: clip to go viral. And the consensus online was that
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  Speaker 1: the deflated balloon looked like a goon sack. So it
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  Speaker 1: was a very patriotic moment for Aussies. And someone on
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  Speaker 1: TikTok had an absolute banger comment. They said, do you
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  Speaker 1: ever feel like a plastic bag drifting through the wind
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  Speaker 1: wanting to start again? Of course, in reference to her
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  Speaker 1: song Firework. Well, it's not the first time that one
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  Speaker 1: of Katie's dancers has distracted the crowd from her performance
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  Speaker 1: because during Katie's Super Bowl halftime show in 2015, there
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  Speaker 1: was a guy dressed as a shark and he didn't
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  Speaker 1: know any of the dance moves properly. He was so
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  Speaker 1: distracting and US Weekly have compared the balloon incident to this.
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  Speaker 1: Now the talk of the town has been Katy Perry's
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  Speaker 1: pay packet because it was $ 5 million. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: seven songs is worth $ 5 million? Well, initially everyone was
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  Speaker 1: saying she was only going to perform five songs. So
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  Speaker 1: everyone was like, gee, a million dollars per song. That's
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  Speaker 1: a huge amount of money. And when I first heard it,
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  Speaker 1: I also thought, wow, that is a lot. But it's
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  Speaker 1: also being reported that the AFL was originally after the
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  Speaker 1: Rolling Stones and reportedly they wanted $ 20 million to sing
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  Speaker 1: four songs. That's ridiculous. So $ 5 million in the scheme
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  Speaker 1: of things doesn't sound that bad. And I think she
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  Speaker 1: deserved it because it's not just for the one performance.
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  Speaker 1: There would have been a lot of effort going into
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  Speaker 1: the preparation. Also the fact that she's built herself up
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  Speaker 1: to be this glorious. Yeah, isn't it a simple sensation?
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  Speaker 1: It's not really the preparation. It's more the 20 plus years.
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  Speaker 1: How long has Katy Perry been around for? probably about 15,
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  Speaker 1: but also for her to come out and have that
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  Speaker 1: much impact, like everyone is saying that this is the
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  Speaker 1: best performance they've seen at an AFL grand final. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Batuta Advocate sums it up pretty well. They said credit
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  Speaker 1: to the head honchos at the AFL. That was fucking awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Katy Perry has today vindicated the decision to pay her
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  Speaker 1: fat stacks to come and perform at the AFL grand final.
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  Speaker 1: All I could think was how much would Taylor Swift
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  Speaker 1: have charged? Yeah, that's a good question. I have absolutely
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  Speaker 1: no idea. I also think though it is really good
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  Speaker 1: publicity for Katie's show because she's obviously coming to Australia.
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  Speaker 1: After seeing her perform at the AFL Grand Final, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I want a ticket to this. I have
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  Speaker 1: been playing her songs nonstop in my car. What did
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  Speaker 1: you think of Tina Arena popping up during I Kissed
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  Speaker 1: A Girl? It was a bit of a letdown for me,
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  Speaker 1: probably because she's not really in my age demo. I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking maybe a Kylie Minogue. That being said, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of publications are saying that Tina Arena outshone Katy Perry. Oh, vocally?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she was amazing in Chainsmokers. I just thought
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  Speaker 1: they were going to kiss at one point during the song. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's what they were sort of alluding to. At one point,
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  Speaker 1: because I saw it on TikTok, the clip popped up
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  Speaker 1: and they almost looked like Jess and Lisa from the
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  Speaker 1: Veronica's when they were back to back. You said that.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see that at all. Now, they would have
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  Speaker 1: been a great inclusion. My partner and I said, what
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  Speaker 1: about Delta? I think Delta would have been amazing.
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  Speaker 2: So you guys hate me.
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  Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough's sisters have made it clear. They don't approve
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  Speaker 1: of her fiance, Matt Sikowski, just weeks out from their
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  Speaker 1: Byron Bay wedding. Appearing on Matt's podcast, Emily and Amy
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  Speaker 1: Hembrough labeled the reality star an immature baby and admitted
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  Speaker 1: they had massive concerns about the relationship. episode was an
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  Speaker 1: absolute bloodbath and I must admit I loved every second
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  Speaker 1: of it I still don't know how this episode was
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  Speaker 1: allowed to air it began by Anna asking Amy and
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  Speaker 1: Emily what they first thought of Matt and she did
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  Speaker 1: preface that they could be honest and they were they
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  Speaker 1: were very honest it's clear that they weren't interested in
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  Speaker 1: giving some sort of PR response and they went into
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  Speaker 1: what they really thought of him but it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: on brand for the Hembrough sisters to do that Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: After listening to this, I just thought, why did they
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  Speaker 1: never bring out the reality show? Because I would have
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  Speaker 1: loved to see all of this playing out in real time. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Emily said she had massive concerns about Matt right off
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  Speaker 1: the bat and that she didn't want to meet him
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  Speaker 1: and said it was too fresh. Now, that comment was
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  Speaker 1: in reference to the fact that Tammy had only called
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  Speaker 1: off her engagement to a former Ironman fiance, Matt Paul.
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  Speaker 1: less than a year before meeting Matt 2.0. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: could tell that their sisters were hoping that Tammy was
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  Speaker 1: going to chill out for a bit and not really
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  Speaker 1: get into any serious relationships. It is pretty crazy when
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  Speaker 1: you look at the timeline because Matt Paul and Tammy
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  Speaker 1: got engaged in November 2021 and she then gave birth
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  Speaker 1: to their daughter Posey in June 2022. And it's reported
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  Speaker 1: that they split just three months later. So it's all
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  Speaker 1: been very quick. And the sisters explain that that they'd
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  Speaker 1: previously got very invested in Tammy's relationships and had overstepped.
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  Speaker 1: It kind of reminded me of our relationship with each
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  Speaker 1: other where you give your honest opinion on guys. Well,
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  Speaker 1: also you spend all of this time during the breakup
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  Speaker 1: pumping the person up, telling them what they should do.
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  Speaker 1: And it's quite clear. that Emily and Amy were upset
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  Speaker 1: because they said that they had a plan with Tammy
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  Speaker 1: after the breakup with Matt Poole. They said the next
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  Speaker 1: person Tammy meets, that she should take things slower with them.
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  Speaker 1: And Tammy agreed to it. Here's how Amy described Tammy
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to relationships.
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  Speaker 3: And Tammy loves love. You would know that she loves
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  Speaker 3: romance and it's why she always falls so hard, which
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  Speaker 3: I like hated, but also loved about her and didn't
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  Speaker 3: want her to ever lose that. So I always just
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  Speaker 3: like hoped for you guys to work out.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Tammy would have been happy with this
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  Speaker 1: description because she cops so much shit online from people
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  Speaker 1: saying that she races into relationships every And she falls
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  Speaker 1: head over heels too quickly. And this is kind of
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  Speaker 1: cementing it. Yeah, it just reiterates what everyone's been saying online. Now,
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  Speaker 1: there were so many revelations during this podcast, but one
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest involved a planned elopement. Oh, I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: believe they were talking about this. So this was only
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  Speaker 1: weeks into their relationship when Matt and Tammy announced to
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  Speaker 1: their families that they were eloping and even had a
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  Speaker 1: location booked in. Now, for context, this was before Matt
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  Speaker 1: then went on to propose to Tammy in the Maldives
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  Speaker 1: last year. I can't imagine why the family were concerned
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  Speaker 1: at all. Oh, it just seems totally normal, doesn't it? Now,
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  Speaker 1: this elopement led to crisis meetings with the Hembrough family,
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  Speaker 1: and it sounded like things got particularly heated with Emily.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what she said.
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  Speaker 4: You and Tammy were going to elope.
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  Speaker 1: We were going to elope, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: We were concerned. They were very concerned.
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  Speaker 1: Naturally. I know you say you had no feelings, but
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  Speaker 1: you were very strong on.
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  Speaker 4: The other side of the kitchen bench.
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  Speaker 5: No, I thought it was really crazy and silly and
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  Speaker 5: it would have been a really bad mistake. But I
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  Speaker 5: just didn't, I didn't express it to anyone, but I
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  Speaker 5: think I expressed it just to you.
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  Speaker 1: So you guys hate me?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 5: It was nothing to do with you and your character and.
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  Speaker 4: Who you are. It was going to be any person
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  Speaker 4: that she was with.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know?
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  Speaker 5: And I just found it like, I remember saying to you,
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  Speaker 5: the first time we spoke about it at her house,
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  Speaker 5: And I just said to you like, what's the rush?
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  Speaker 4: And you were like, well, why not? We love each other.
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, that's just like so silly.
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  Speaker 1: It's so fascinating hearing all of the dirty details of
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  Speaker 1: what went on behind the scenes because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we were almost gaslit into thinking that the whole family
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  Speaker 1: approved of Matt and that everyone thought it was so
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  Speaker 1: normal that things were moving at such a fast pace. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they had Papa Hembro on as in Tammy's dad a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago and he was acting like he
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  Speaker 1: was cool with the whole thing. But it sounds like
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  Speaker 1: the sisters had a very different take on it. But
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  Speaker 1: sometimes the parents, like, of course, Tammy's dad is going
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  Speaker 1: to go on there and speak her up. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's the sisters that give the very genuine side of
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  Speaker 1: the story. It was so awkward listening to this because
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  Speaker 1: Matt was clearly not reading the room because he then
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  Speaker 1: went on to ask Emily and Amy, oh, would have
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  Speaker 1: you guys attended the elopement if it went ahead? Shut up, Matt.
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  Speaker 1: Stop talking. And Emily hit back and said, isn't the
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  Speaker 1: point of an elopement to do it without people? I
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  Speaker 1: think it was Matt and Emily that were butting heads
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  Speaker 1: the most because Matt kept going at Emily and And saying, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: you got engaged to your husband very quickly after meeting him.
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  Speaker 1: But she was like, well, I hadn't just been proposed
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  Speaker 1: to twice. Or had a one-year-old child involved. Which was
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a burn to Tammy. It also made
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  Speaker 1: it very clear that that's clearly what Tammy and Matt
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  Speaker 1: are saying behind the sister's back. She's done the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: It did seem like Tammy's sisters must have gotten through
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  Speaker 1: to the couple a little bit because despite the elopement
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  Speaker 1: being booked in, Tammy changed her mind. He said, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want a loaf anymore because we had it booked in,
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  Speaker 1: in like a month later.
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  Speaker 4: And then I was like, well, I'm going to propose,
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  Speaker 4: make it more like romantic.
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  Speaker 1: And then she was like, nah, we're not a loafing.
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  Speaker 2: I want to do a wedding.
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  Speaker 1: Despite Tammy's sisters really pushing for them to slow things down,
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  Speaker 1: Matt was still very adamant that he wanted to propose.
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  Speaker 1: So he explained in this interview that he locked in
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  Speaker 1: a time to visit Amy and Emily at their skin clinic.
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  Speaker 1: And he had the ring with him because he was
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  Speaker 1: there to seek their approval. I mean, it was so
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  Speaker 1: obvious that they weren't cool with the thing the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: And her absence spoke volumes. And she said it was
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  Speaker 1: her way of giving Matt a big fat no. This
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  Speaker 1: is what Emily said.
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  Speaker 5: When you guys said you were getting engaged, I was like,
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  Speaker 5: he must be that delusional.
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  Speaker 4: I was really concerned.
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  Speaker 5: Because she is like, she's spontaneous and she's a fun
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  Speaker 5: spirit and she likes to do what she wants to do.
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  Speaker 5: But for a guy to come in and think that's
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  Speaker 5: okay when she's got a one-year-old, like I thought that
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  Speaker 5: was a big red flag.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty evident that Emily hates Matt's guts. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I took from this interview. And it was
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  Speaker 1: almost like she was saying that he was too irresponsible
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  Speaker 1: to be a stepfather. Yeah. And things got even worse
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  Speaker 1: when Emily then issued a warning to Matt about.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I like Matt as a person. Like,
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  Speaker 4: I think he's nice.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I think he's immature. I think he's got to
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  Speaker 5: do a lot of growing up. Like, you're very immature.
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  Speaker 5: But I think you're a nice person. Like, you've got
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  Speaker 5: a good heart. Like, you've got good intentions with her.
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  Speaker 5: But I do still feel like it could be a
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  Speaker 5: longer engagement. But, like, we get along.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: There's no beef. There's love. No beef.
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  Speaker 2: After this, there might be.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: Immature?
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  Speaker 4: In what way?
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  Speaker 5: You're like... Some of the stuff you say, I can't
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  Speaker 5: think of things off the top of my head. I'm
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  Speaker 5: pretty rogue.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just say stuff.
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  Speaker 4: That's like a little teenager boy would say something like that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Like a little baby. Yeah. A big baby.
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  Speaker 1: You know you're rogue. I know.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was a good idea to get these
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  Speaker 4: guys on.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, sure.
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  Speaker 5: I just hope you know marriage is a serious thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely. You have said that to me before.
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  Speaker 5: It is actually a serious thing and, like, I hope
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  Speaker 5: you don't make any mistakes. Like I really pray and
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  Speaker 5: hope that you don't do anything to hurt Tammy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to hurt Tammy. I have no intention
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  Speaker 4: of hurting Tammy.
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  Speaker 1: I totally get the baby comment after hearing Matt say that, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to hurt Tammy. That is my absolute
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  Speaker 1: ick when people speak in baby voices. It's like he
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  Speaker 1: was this little boy who was being told off. Look,
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  Speaker 1: the biggest issue for me, and it appears the sisters,
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  Speaker 1: is Matt's rush. It just seems like everything is such
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  Speaker 1: a rush. I don't get why it has to be.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if he really loves her, why can't they
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  Speaker 1: wait two years to get married? These comments from Emily
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  Speaker 1: are just so explosive because what she's essentially saying is
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  Speaker 1: that she is concerned that that Matt is going to
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  Speaker 1: cheat on Tammy. I don't know if she's saying that.
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  Speaker 1: She is by giving him a warning saying you better
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  Speaker 1: not hurt her. Well, they were obviously pissed off after
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  Speaker 1: that Grand Prix DM that got exposed. Oh, well, that
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  Speaker 1: is totally what this is in reference to. And I
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  Speaker 1: think she's very concerned that when the reality of marriage
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  Speaker 1: sets in for Matt, you know, once all these festivities
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  Speaker 1: are over, that he will become bored and unhappy and
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  Speaker 1: particularly when he's becoming a new stepdad to three kids
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  Speaker 1: do you think they're also trying to get it on
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  Speaker 1: the record like before they get married it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like we were right i feel like they probably had
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  Speaker 1: a fight with tammy beforehand and they just can't stand
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  Speaker 1: sitting there and blowing smoke up this guy's ass but
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  Speaker 1: how did it air like if this was recorded a
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  Speaker 1: few weeks ago surely tammy would have heard and said
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  Speaker 1: please don't air this this is too damaging In terms
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  Speaker 1: of PR, this is the worst PR this couple could
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  Speaker 1: have just weeks out from their wedding. Well, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Emily wasn't glowing of Matt either when it came to
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  Speaker 1: discussing how he was with her kids because online there's
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  Speaker 1: been a lot of discussion like, oh, he looks like
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  Speaker 1: quite a good stepdad. That's what I took from all
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  Speaker 1: the TikToks they do. I was like, oh, good on him.
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  Speaker 1: He's having fun with the children. He's taking them to
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  Speaker 1: the movies. Well, because we saw that he and Wolf
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  Speaker 1: both shaved their heads and everyone's been saying how much
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  Speaker 1: Wolf looks like Matt and they seem to have quite
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  Speaker 1: a cute little connection. And when- Maybe he's on their level.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Emily said, oh, I haven't really seen him much
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  Speaker 1: with the kids. And she confessed that the first time
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  Speaker 1: that Matt hung out with the whole family, she purposely
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  Speaker 1: tried to make it appear extra chaotic with the kids. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was hilarious because she said she even
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  Speaker 1: went as far as banging the table when he wasn't watching.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, oh, the kids are pretty good today.
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  Speaker 1: They're not that noisy. Yeah, it was clearly a test.
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  Speaker 1: And she said that Matt looked like he'd seen a ghost.
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  Speaker 1: I just couldn't help but feel like Emily in particular
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  Speaker 1: was trying to insinuate that Matt was a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a gold digger because he stands to gain a lot
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  Speaker 1: from marrying Tammy. She is reportedly worth $ 50 million. And
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  Speaker 1: unless they sign a prenup, Matt could potentially claim half
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  Speaker 1: of her fortune if they get divorced. Well, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they have prenups in Australia. I'm sure there's some
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  Speaker 1: legalities around it though. And I just think ultimately, this
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: is why they are so suspicious of him rushing into this.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Because there seems to have been a lot of love
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: bombing from the start. And Tammy had been telling her
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: sisters that she was in love and had met her
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: soulmate and that they're going to be together forever. And
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: they're probably just thinking, well, if she was worth nothing,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: would you be rushing in to marry her? I don't
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: think that Matt is a gold digger. I don't think
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: that's why he's after Tammy. I just think, as the
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: sisters said, he's immature. So you don't think that her
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: lifestyle has anything to do with the fact that he
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: wants to lock things down quickly? When you of a
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: gold digger you generally think of somebody who's going after
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: some like old person that has nothing going for them
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: like Tammy Hembrough has a hell of a lot going
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: for her I don't think the age matters no but
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: I'm saying like I think he's in awe of Tammy
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: because she's gorgeous She's super successful. Yes, she has a
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: lot of money and probably a lifestyle that he is
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: quite envious of or wants to be involved in. But
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: what's the point of getting married so quickly? Like, couldn't
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: you just enjoy? Because I think he's being immature and
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: he's in awe of her because of how famous and
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: successful and talented she is, to be honest. It sounds
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: like he is very immature. But also, I loved this
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: part of the podcast because the sisters pointed out that
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: they found it particularly concerning that the way that Matt
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: was so quick to call Tammy's house our house, that
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: would piss me off. Here's what they said.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: And you were talking about, I think, the New Year's
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: Eve party and you were like, are you going to
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: come to our house that we're hosting our party?
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: I'm like, you literally just met. You just moved in.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: You literally just sat down.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Did I really? You're like the audacity.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: Like a few times, I'm like, okay, I get it.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: You guys have a good relationship.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Surely not. No. Party.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: You did.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, house.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: This is the first time you've been to this house. Yeah,
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: it's the first time I'm there.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I was still staying in a hotel. This is so
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable to listen to. It is so clear that he
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: has totally rubbed this family up the wrong way. And
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: his comments just really seem to lack awareness because it's
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: like he's sending the message, oh, this two-story mansion is
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: already mine, even though it's like the first time he's
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: fucking been there. Well, there was a huge red flag.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I think I would have loved to have been a
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: fly on the wall during the car ride home between
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Amy and Emily, because they would have been bitching their
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: faces off. Like if this was me and I'd met
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: your boyfriend, Sophie, and he was calling your house his,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: that would infuriate me so much. Oh, totally. There would
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: be so much bitching going on behind the scenes. It
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: was probably not a great move as well when he
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: said that they were in fact invited to the party. Like,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: of course they were invited to the party. The whole
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: vibe that I get from this is that Emily and
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Amy and the other sisters potentially have made it very
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: clear to Tammy what they think about Matt. And Tammy
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: is probably wanting to prove them wrong by marrying him,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: by saying, look, it all worked out. Like, not only
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: is she wanting to prove her family wrong, but she's
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: wanting to prove all of the trolls wrong. And I
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: just think she would have been beyond livid to listen
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: to this episode back because it just plays into what
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: trolls have been saying. Can someone please make this a
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: reality show, their wedding? Like, could they make it like
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: newlyweds or something? Because this would be sensational to watch.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: It's got the whole Kim Kardashian, Chris Humphries vibe because
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: maybe it won't last for very long as well. The
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: only reason I can think of that Matt would have
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: wanted this episode to see the light of day is
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: to gain exposure for his podcast. But interestingly, it hasn't
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: been picked up by the mainstream media yet. Well, I
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: first heard about this podcast through TikTok. Because the Where's
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Your Head At podcast put up this clip and it
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: was where Emily was warning Matt. And I was like,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: fucking hell, with no context, this looks even worse. Do
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: you reckon Anna was like, look, mate, we're going to
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: have to put it up because our podcast needs some
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: extra views.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: You knew what was coming.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: In a much anticipated podcast episode, Lucy Jackson has spilled
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the tea on why she dramatically broke up with her boyfriend, Sam,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: a day after he moved in. Lucy announced a breakup
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: on TikTok two weeks ago, sharing that she was looking
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: for a new roommate. She then confirmed in the comment
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: section that Sam had cheated on her. However, we did
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: not know all of the dirty details until now. This
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: has been popping up all over my TikTok because people
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: have been taking the most explosive parts of this episode
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: and showing their reaction whilst they're just doing everyday tasks.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Like some girl was getting her nails done and was like,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: oh my God. it did not disappoint. Now this episode
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: was entitled, I got cheated on, never trust a boy
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: in low cut vans. And this is quite iconic because
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: she explained on her TikTok how low cut vans have
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: been on her ick list for years. And these are
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: the shoes he chose to wear on their first date.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Isn't it funny how sometimes you just know in your gut,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: like you know ahead of time, this guy's going to
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: be a fucking dick. There's some little red flags along
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the way. Now they started the podcast by prefacing that
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: they didn't want their listeners to go and leave Sam
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: hate comments and that they don't condone bullying in any way.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Lucy also said that no one is perfect and that
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: she's made mistakes in her life. And I think that
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: this is in reference to rumours which have since surfaced
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: about her allegedly being unfaithful to her past partner. I
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: got the vibe throughout this podcast that she's concerned that
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Sam is going to start spreading vicious rumours about her.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I always find it amusing when people have to put
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: these warnings in at the start, like, please don't give
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: him hate, but then they create an absolute town on him. Like,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: obviously their listeners are going to go after Sam. I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: reckon it must have been really cathartic for her to
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: record this. Yeah, I mean, I don't blame them for
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: going in hard on him. He sounds like an absolute dickhead. Yeah,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: she sounds like a douchebag from this. So she... started
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: by explaining their relationship timeline as it was quite pivotal
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: to the story. So just a quick refresher. They met
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: in Feb this year. They went on a first date
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and saw each other for two weeks until Lucy called
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: things off when she went to America for a month.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: And she said that she called things off because she
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: was uncertain about him. She wasn't really into him. Now,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: when she got back from America, they picked things back
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: up straight away. And during the month of April, they
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: weren't really official, but she said that they were still
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: seeing each other five times a week and they started
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: meeting each other's friends and discussing meeting each other's family members.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, if you're catching up with someone five times
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: a week, you've got to put a title. That's official.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Well, in May, that's when things became really serious and
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: they planned to meet up in Europe and they also
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: discussed moving in with each other after the trip. And
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Lucy explained that they were very much together, but because
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: she's been so busy with work, They were like ships
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: in the night. So they spent a lot of time apart,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: but it sounded like they were official. And she went
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: on to say what a great time they had together
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: in Europe. And when they returned, they exchanged I love yous.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: And this was when he was then set to move in. Yeah.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Now let's get into what actually went down. So he
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: moved in on the Tuesday and by Wednesday night, she
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: was kicking him out. So on Wednesday, Lucy and Sam
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: went out to dinner and they met up with some
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: of his friends that she hadn't met before. And they
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: were supposed to be going to a wedding together the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: next day. Now, when they got home, she decided to
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: check her indirect and hidden DMs. And she said that
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: this is a bit of a toxic trait of hers
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: and she religiously checks them. It's not because she was
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: concerned about anything. She just does it all the time.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: And in there, there was a message from a girl
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: claiming to have slept with Sam in May. Here's what
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Lucy said.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: There was a message from a girl pretty much saying
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: that She had an encounter in May with him. Should
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I call it an encounter?
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Like I don't know. What do you even call it?
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: SCX?
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like slept with him.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: In May.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: And that when we were in Europe, he was texting
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: her and calling her and trying to like essentially, you know, woo.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Her from outside.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Afar from a music festival in Belgium.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I go, surely there was better things to be doing
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: at that point in time, bro.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: And so I had a moment and I was like, whoa.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: And you know, when everything kind of just like spins
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: in front of you and you're like, what the fuck's
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: going on? I was literally in my undies. Like I
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: was just like, you know, not prepared. And I just said,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: get the fuck out of my house. And Obviously, a
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: lot of shock. He was very shocked. And I just said,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: get the fuck out of my house. And then obviously
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I said, do not make me raise my voice.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Get the fuck out.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: And he left.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Did he know why you said that?
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I showed him my phone.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: And obviously he went pale as a ghost, as you
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: would when you get caught out for that kind of shit.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: So Lucy referred to this girl as girlfriend number one.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: And she explained that this girl had had a long
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: history with Sam. So things had been back and forth
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: between the pair and they'd known each other for years
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: and there were a lot of wounds. Now, girlfriend number
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: one said she wasn't aware Sam was with Lucy when
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: they'd slept together. He also told her he was going
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: to Europe with a friend called Lucy. Oh my God.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: What a stab in the heart to be referred to
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: as someone's friend. Now, despite not having a huge amount
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: of proof, Lucy instantly believed her. And Sam started to
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: go into full damage control. He allegedly started messaging girlfriend
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: number one, begging her not to say any more to Lucy,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: which is instant guilt. Now this is where girlfriend number
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: two enters the chat. So she had come up a
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: lot in their relationship as they hadn't broken up long
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: before Lucy and Sam started dating. And there were numerous
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: instances where they wouldn't go to certain coffee shops because
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: she was going to be there. Red flag. Yeah. And
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Sam had spoken quite ill of her on several occasions
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and Lucy said that that should have been a red flag,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: but she... That is so true. What do you think
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: about that? Should exes talk nicely about each other? I
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: think you should always be somewhat respectful because obviously you
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: were with that person for a reason. You'd love them
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: at some stage of your life and that they were,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: they're always going to have been a part of your life.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Don't you think it's a huge red flag when a
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: guy's like, oh, my ex was crazy. And you're like, well,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: did you make them crazy? Yeah, definitely. Definitely. I mean,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: it's different if someone has actually treated you awfully.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: If someone's cheated on you, you can say that they're
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: a pig. Now, Lucy brought up girlfriend number two on
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the phone with Sam after they split. And after a
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: lot of back and forth, Sam admitted that he did
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: sleep with girlfriend number two in April. And that was
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: when Lucy was in Bali for her birthday. So this
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: was around the time that they were hanging out a lot.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: They weren't quite official. It's pretty random because Lucy said
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: that one of her male friends ended up pursuing girlfriend
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: number two whilst she and Sam were going out. And
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: she told the friend that Sam was bad news. That's
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: clever of Lucy to push the friend towards girlfriend number two.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Let's get her out the picture. Let's get her with
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: a boyfriend. I don't think she did. I think it
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: was all just pretty random. Now, following these revelations, Lucy
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: threw all of Sam's possessions on the side of the
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: road and told him that he had until the afternoon
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: to pick them up or she'd take them to the tip. Now,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: because he moved in, he left three surfboards in her garage.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: And she said that she contemplated running them over, but
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: thought better of it. So instead, she left a note
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: on top of his possessions, which said, you are a loser.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: And she also decided to keep his ugliest jacket, which
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: he is obsessed with. And she said she's planning on
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: throwing it into the canal in front of her house.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: So that's a bit of a farewell sign. I would
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: have let him keep the ugly jacket because my theory
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: is that he'll keep wearing that on dates and keep
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: repelling people. Now, back when Lucy shared the initial breakup
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: news on her TikTok, this is when girl number three
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: popped up. And Lucy referred to this girl as random girl.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: So this girl slid into Lucy's DMs and informed her
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: that she'd slept with her ex earlier in the year. Now,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: this didn't bother Lucy as much as it could have
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: been before they met. But what bothered her was a
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: text message exchange that they had in Europe. So this
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: was at the same music festival where he was texting
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: girlfriend number one. It was actually this text message exchange
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: that Lucy said made her feel the most sick and
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: she decided to read it out word for word on
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the podcast. Here's what it said.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to read you some of the messages
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: that he was sending this girl. So how's dating on
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: the Gold Coast going? And this is him asking her.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: And she goes, pretty non-existent.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: What about you?
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I feel like there's a lot of single boys getting around.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: And then she goes, well, if you know anyone, let
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: me know. How's your dating life? And he goes, haha,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I'll keep an ear out. Yeah, I'm actually dating someone
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: at the moment. It's going pretty well, I guess. I'll
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: keep you updated.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Haha.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: And she goes, you guess, that doesn't sound promising. And
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: he goes, ha-ha, it's going well, can always be better,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: you know. And she goes, how so? And he goes,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know, just a figure of speech, ha-ha. But
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: your dating life, I seen, which I also hate when
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: people just say seen instead of saw, get some fucking grammar.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I seen you posted a pic with a boy the
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: other day. Was this something or just a random thing?
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: And she goes, did I? Someone that's on Instagram once
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: a week on his iPad fucking keeping tabs on everyone.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Did I?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know who it would have been. Oh, maybe
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: someone you worked with. And she goes, maybe. And he goes,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: so secretive.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Ha ha. Nikki played such a supporting role in this podcast,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: but her comments were absolutely iconic. Like her going on
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: about him on his iPad, noticing everything that's happening on
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: this girl's face. I was in absolute fits of laughter.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I can see why she'd be most offended by this
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: text message exchange because it's like as if Lucy's just
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: a nobody, like non-existent. You're literally moving into her house
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: in a few weeks' time, you dickhead. Well, I have
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: to explain. Nikki's original iPad comment because Lucy said that
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: there were so many things that were off about Sam
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: that she should have realised and one was his use
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: of an iPad. But what guy uses an iPad? He
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: claimed that he only used Instagram on his iPad because
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: And she believed him because she thought that he was this, like, artsy,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: wholesome guy who didn't like social media. But it's quite
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: clear that he was trying to cover his tracks. Now,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: the other clue that things weren't quite right was that
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: he had a weird handle on Instagram, so it wasn't
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: his real name. Well, what seemed to puzzle Lucy the
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: most was how he thought he was going to get
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: away with it. Let's have a listen to what she said.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: When you jumped in your car and drove your bloody
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: stupid car around with your stupid camper van on top, yuck,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: over to one of these girls' houses knowing who I
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: was online based on what you already knew. It's not
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: like you just stumble.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I didn't know.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Like you knew what was coming.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Like you knew what the repercussions would be and yet
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: you still chose to do it.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: She has a really good point and this is why
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I don't feel bad for the guy because she he
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: would know the type of personality that Lucy is, that
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: she would be very forthcoming to share this with her
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: podcast listeners and do a whole expose. This guy is
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: going to find it very difficult to date moving forward.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: He's probably going to run back to girlfriend number two
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: who hasn't reached out to Lucy because it's probably the
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: only person who's going to be able to get at
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: this stage.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God, I've just realised I've been in the
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: same shirt all week.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley has revealed the much anticipated results of her
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: fox eye lift three weeks after going under the knife
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  Speaker 1: in Turkey. Until now, the 30-year-old has been hiding her
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  Speaker 1: eyes behind surgery bandages and black glasses. Yeah, she's even
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  Speaker 1: had paparazzi following her every move to try and get
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  Speaker 1: a glimpse of the results. And it's clear that she
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  Speaker 1: has been inundated by followers asking her why she won't
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  Speaker 1: just show her eyes because She responded in a Q &
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  Speaker 1: A saying that she can't be fucked with people's opinions
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  Speaker 1: right now and that the healing will take three to
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  Speaker 1: six months. And to prove her point, she posted a
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  Speaker 1: photo of her nose a few weeks after her nose job,
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  Speaker 1: which she got probably five years ago and said, look
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  Speaker 1: how dumb my nose looked when I first got it done.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, the healing process ain't fun for me.
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  Speaker 1: I even hated my boobs when I first got the
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  Speaker 1: tape off. I had a meltdown about it on my
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  Speaker 1: YouTube video. Lol, you got to trust the process. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she also revealed that she didn't love how the fox
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  Speaker 1: eye lift looked straight after surgery because she said it
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  Speaker 1: was very swollen and it looked uneven. But she knows
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  Speaker 1: that she just needs to wait and be patient to
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  Speaker 1: see the actual results. And that's what a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people have been saying online, especially in our Facebook community,
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  Speaker 1: that you can't judge it now. Yeah, well, it seemed
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  Speaker 1: like she was forced to come out with her results
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  Speaker 1: earlier than she would have liked because she had a
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  Speaker 1: meet and greet with fans last Friday and Was that
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  Speaker 1: for that new drink she's got?
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  Speaker 4: I think so.
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  Speaker 1: She was dressed in a police outfit. I'm not quite
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  Speaker 1: sure what that had to do with it. Surely she
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  Speaker 1: could have worn sunglasses. Yeah, well, I assume she didn't
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  Speaker 1: want fans posting photos that she had no control over first.
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  Speaker 1: She wanted to be the one that got the chance
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  Speaker 1: to show the results, maybe in the lighting that she liked.
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  Speaker 1: And she ended up sharing a video where she turned
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  Speaker 1: from side to side to show her new look. But
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  Speaker 1: she still had a lot of heavy face tape around
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  Speaker 1: her temples and a lot of bruising, and she wrote
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  Speaker 1: she couldn't be happier with the results and tagged her
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  Speaker 1: doctor thanking him. She then added a big fuck you
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  Speaker 1: to everyone saying I fucked my face up because I
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  Speaker 1: legit just leveled it up actually. Nothing wrong in wanting
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  Speaker 1: to feel and look good. Do what makes you happy, queens.
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  Speaker 1: What worried me though is that following that post, she
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  Speaker 1: then started listing more things that she wanted to do
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  Speaker 1: to her face. So she said that she wanted to
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  Speaker 1: straighten her bottom teeth. And for reference, she literally has
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  Speaker 1: the most stunning, beautiful teeth, like to the point where
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  Speaker 1: people think that her teeth are veneers. They're that nice. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I thought they were veneers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, they're natural. So it just sounds like she's ticked
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  Speaker 1: off the fox eye lift and now gone, what else
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  Speaker 1: can I do? I'm still not happy. Yeah. And that's
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  Speaker 1: what's so troubling about this. Now she ended up posting
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  Speaker 1: the full results on TikTok where she had removed the
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  Speaker 1: tape and She did a transition video. So she was
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  Speaker 1: wearing daggy clothes and she had her eyes hidden behind
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  Speaker 1: these new glasses that she's wearing. They're sort of very
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  Speaker 1: like corporate-y glasses. And then she revealed her all glammed
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  Speaker 1: up with her eyes front and center. And I have
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  Speaker 1: to say, they look dramatically different. And again, this is
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  Speaker 1: because it is only three weeks after surgery. They looked
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  Speaker 1: really defined and almond-like. And a few of her followers
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  Speaker 1: were complimentary in the comment section saying, with one saying, oh,
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  Speaker 1: they're a vibe and you look like Bella Hadid. However,
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  Speaker 1: the majority of comments weren't so complimentary. And there was
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  Speaker 1: an influx of people saying that she looked like Jocelyn Wilderstein.
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  Speaker 1: And she's known as cat lady. So she is the
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  Speaker 1: socialite who is known for getting so much cosmetic surgery
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  Speaker 1: that she now resembles a cat. Another person said, no,
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  Speaker 1: why did you do that? Which got over 1200 likes.
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  Speaker 1: Whilst another said, please tell me that you can reverse this.
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  Speaker 1: If I was Skye, I think I would have taken
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  Speaker 1: a social media hiatus for three months and come back
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  Speaker 1: when the eyes were looking how I wanted them to. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but it's her career. She needs to be- It is,
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  Speaker 1: but she's losing followers. I had a look on social
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  Speaker 1: blade on Instagram in the past 30 days. She's actually
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  Speaker 1: lost 750 followers. And I would have thought if you're posting-
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  Speaker 1: This type of content that people are talking about, people
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  Speaker 1: are concerned about it. You would think you'd be gaining more,
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  Speaker 1: but I think maybe people are disturbed by the length
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  Speaker 1: that she's going to and concerned about it. I think
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  Speaker 1: because she gained a lot of followers when she won
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  Speaker 1: I'm a Celeb and that would have been a very
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  Speaker 1: mainstream crowd who were probably quite taken back by this.
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  Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong. I actually think Sky Wheatley
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  Speaker 1: is a nice person deep down. She has had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of controversies and she's definitely put her foot in it,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think she has a bad bone in
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  Speaker 1: her body because But I'm just concerned about her. That's
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  Speaker 1: the thing. It's really difficult to watch this because it's
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  Speaker 1: quite apparent that she has body dysmorphia. And she said
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  Speaker 1: that on a number of occasions. Now, she hit back
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  Speaker 1: at some of the people in the comment section saying, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'm three weeks post-op. It's going to look crazy whilst
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  Speaker 1: I'm healing, but I love it. Well, at least she's
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  Speaker 1: saying she likes it because, you know, as she said,
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  Speaker 1: she didn't like her nose job at first. She didn't
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  Speaker 1: like her boob job at first. Yeah, but maybe she's
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  Speaker 1: just saying that publicly to save face. There's also been
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  Speaker 1: persistent rumors which have been fanned by the Daily Mail
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  Speaker 1: that Sky Wheatley was set to replace Sophie Monk as
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  Speaker 1: the host of Love Island Australia. But due to this surgery,
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  Speaker 1: the offer has been taken off the table. So a
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  Speaker 1: source told the publication that Sophie was set to work
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  Speaker 1: on other projects at Nine and Sky would be a
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  Speaker 1: really good fit for Love Island. And this is off
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  Speaker 1: the back of a huge popularity after winning I'm a Celeb.
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  Speaker 1: Now the insider claims that Nine ultimately decided not to
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  Speaker 1: work with Sky after she drastically changed the way she looked.
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  Speaker 1: So the Daily Mail quoted the source who said, the
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  Speaker 1: problem with changing your appearance and even your hair color
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  Speaker 1: is that your brand is often wrapped up in a
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  Speaker 1: look you are famous for. I don't think Nine was
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  Speaker 1: unconfident with her ability to host the show. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was just the look they were hiring her for
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  Speaker 1: has changed. Now, Skye ended up responding to these rumors
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  Speaker 1: by posting a video of her lip syncing to Sabrina
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  Speaker 1: Carpenter with the caption, when you get dropped from hosting
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  Speaker 1: Love Island because you got scary surgery and added, okay,
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  Speaker 1: who's in charge of this clickbait? Yeah, she went on
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  Speaker 1: to confirm in the comment section that they never asked
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  Speaker 1: her to host, but was unsure if it's something they
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  Speaker 1: spoke about behind closed doors. I wouldn't be surprised if
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  Speaker 1: this was the case, because if you think about all
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  Speaker 1: of the hosting opportunities that came Abby Chatfield's way after
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  Speaker 1: she won I'm a Celeb, Sky's name would be out there.
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  Speaker 1: Also because Sky recently attended the Logies and we spoke
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  Speaker 1: in that episode how the Logies is a bit of
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  Speaker 1: an audition for the roles that you want. So it's
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  Speaker 1: clear that she's out there. I mean, she mentioned that
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  Speaker 1: she wants to be cast on Big Brother, which would
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  Speaker 1: be a massive win for the show. The thing is,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of her fans said in the comment section,
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  Speaker 1: the only reason they'd start watching Love Island Australia is
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  Speaker 1: if Sky was on there. So it wouldn't be an
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  Speaker 1: entirely bad move. Well, I think that's all we've got
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  Speaker 1: time for today. Thank you for listening to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of Outspoken. Don't forget to follow us on TikTok and
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  Speaker 1: Sophie and I have started posting a bit more regularly
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  Speaker 1: on TikTok now. Yeah, a bit more personal content. I've
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  Speaker 1: been sharing a lot about my wedding. I've got my
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  Speaker 1: wedding dress try on on there because I always love
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  Speaker 1: seeing that pervy stuff from other people. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: really want to flood all of my friends and family
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  Speaker 1: who are probably not interested in seeing it. And you've
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  Speaker 1: got a few barley recommendations on there as well as
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  Speaker 1: some cooking videos. Well, I'm starting to do some cooking videos.
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  Speaker 1: And We really want to get into Christmas content as well.
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  Speaker 1: So we've been going, every Christmas store we've been going to,
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  Speaker 1: we've been doing a bit of a haul from there. Well,
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  Speaker 1: this episode was recorded on the traditional land of the
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  Speaker 1: Kaurna people of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to
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  Speaker 1: elders past and present.