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- 0:02Speaker 1: The radical, fundamental principles of freedom, rational self-interest, and individual rights.
- 0:14Speaker 1: This is the Yaron Brook Show. All right, everybody. Welcome
- 0:21Speaker 1: to Yaron Brook Show on this Tuesday, September 29th. I
- 0:27Speaker 1: am still in Madrid. Uh... I'll be here tomorrow and
- 0:34Speaker 1: then heading back home on Thursday. No show tomorrow. No
- 0:39Speaker 1: show on Thursday, but there will be. There will be.
- 0:45Speaker 1: If there are no surprises, there will be a show
- 0:47Speaker 1: on Friday from my studio at home. It will be
- 0:51Speaker 1: a relief to get back to doing shows from my
- 0:56Speaker 1: setup at home. A lot fewer Right. A lot fewer
- 1:03Speaker 1: technical issues, a lot fewer things to think about and
- 1:07Speaker 1: to focus on. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to that. Also,
- 1:14Speaker 1: a bunch of developments, AI related, are going to happen
- 1:18Speaker 1: in the next few months. I'm excited about that. So
- 1:20Speaker 1: a lot of things to be excited about. All right.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Anything else logistics wise? Anything I want to tell you? No,
- 1:31Speaker 1: saw some really beautiful sculpture today, so enjoying. I will
- 1:38Speaker 1: say this, there's a lot of small museums in Madrid.
- 1:44Speaker 1: There's the big museum, the Prado, which is amazing, but
- 1:46Speaker 1: there are a lot of other museums in Madrid with
- 1:49Speaker 1: some phenomenal art. So if you're a fan of art,
- 1:54Speaker 1: Madrid definitely should be on your list of places to visit. Spectacular.
- 1:59Speaker 1: All right, let's turn to our news. So 46 years
- 2:03Speaker 1: ago today, an economist and a biologist made a $ 1, 000
- 2:10Speaker 1: bet on whether the world was running out of stuff.
- 2:14Speaker 1: We'll end the show talking about that because it seems
- 2:19Speaker 1: like everybody else this week is betting on shortages and
- 2:23Speaker 1: scarcity and things not being available. Trump wants to keep
- 2:27Speaker 1: American diesel at home. As of midnight, you can't buy
- 2:32Speaker 1: Canadian whiskey in America. Spain wants to ban evictions until 2030. U.S.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Senate just voted to cap what college athletes can earn.
- 2:45Speaker 1: And an AI company that's about to go public for
- 2:49Speaker 1: maybe $ 2 trillion, a $ 2 trillion valuation, says its own
- 2:55Speaker 1: product could pose, quote, this is in its S1. which
- 2:59Speaker 1: is the filing documents for its going public. Its own
- 3:03Speaker 1: product could pose, quote, existential risk to humanity. So we
- 3:09Speaker 1: want you to value us at $ 2 trillion, but we
- 3:11Speaker 1: might kill you all. It's a great marketing pitch, don't
- 3:15Speaker 1: you think? All right. So let's back up and start
- 3:24Speaker 1: with some of the lead stories out there. Iran continues
- 3:28Speaker 1: to be in the news. We talked about this yesterday. Today,
- 3:33Speaker 1: after Trump dismissed Iran's latest proposal, the chief negotiator of
- 3:40Speaker 1: Iran has basically come back and said, if you don't
- 3:44Speaker 1: accept our proposal, we're going to strike regional infrastructure. Regional infrastructure.
- 3:49Speaker 1: We want security guarantees, not sure what kind of security
- 3:53Speaker 1: guarantees they want from the United States, but They're expecting
- 3:58Speaker 1: a final U.S. response to the Qatari mediators any day now. Otherwise,
- 4:02Speaker 1: they're going to launch a hot war, a hot war
- 4:05Speaker 1: which they will lose. They can't win this one. But,
- 4:10Speaker 1: you know, they figured out the threat thing to bomb
- 4:13Speaker 1: the Saudis and the UAE. They won't strike Israel. They're
- 4:16Speaker 1: too afraid to do that. But they can go after UAE.
- 4:19Speaker 1: They can go through the Kuwaitis, the Saudis, the Qataris,
- 4:23Speaker 1: and nothing will happen. Nothing will happen. So that is
- 4:26Speaker 1: their threat. And what they're hoping is that all those
- 4:31Speaker 1: Gulf states will put pressure on Trump to cut a deal. So, yeah,
- 4:38Speaker 1: Iran's full conditions to reopening the strait and to not
- 4:42Speaker 1: striking the infrastructure is a seven-day regional ceasefire, assets, Iranian
- 4:50Speaker 1: assets unfrozen, end to oil sanctions, and an end to U.S.
- 4:55Speaker 1: naval blockade and in exchange, They will consider what kind
- 5:06Speaker 1: of concessions they're willing to make on the nuclear program.
- 5:09Speaker 1: That is what they're offering in return. The IRGC is
- 5:18Speaker 1: claiming that they have the Strait of Hormuz basically closed
- 5:25Speaker 1: and that they will hit any ship trying to pass through.
- 5:29Speaker 1: You know, so far since the beginning of the war,
- 5:32Speaker 1: 85 ships have been hit, 24 mariners have been killed
- 5:37Speaker 1: by the Iranians. So that's kind of where we are
- 5:43Speaker 1: in terms of negotiations. Iranians threatening the U.S. holding pat
- 5:47Speaker 1: so far. I mean, the reality is that this blockade,
- 5:53Speaker 1: which should have been done on day one of the war,
- 5:56Speaker 1: Combined with the fact that it seems right now that
- 6:01Speaker 1: the U.S. Navy has kind of, at least partially opened
- 6:05Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormuz, that the combination of those two
- 6:09Speaker 1: are really hurting the Iranians, and the Iranians are starting
- 6:12Speaker 1: to panic. I mean, the Iranian economy is in free fall.
- 6:18Speaker 1: The rial, the Iranian currency, has reached a record low.
- 6:23Speaker 1: So you know how many rials It takes to buy $ 1. $ 1.
- 6:26Speaker 1: How many reals does it take to buy $ 1? $ 2. 5 million. Million. So,
- 6:31Speaker 1: you know, $ 10, $ 25 million, $ 100, $ 250 million. $ 1, 000 is $ 2. 5 billion.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Billion real, sorry, billion real. That's pretty nuts. It's dropped
- 6:56Speaker 1: to $ 2. 5 million just over this month, over the last
- 7:00Speaker 1: 27 days. It was at $ 2. 2 million on September 2nd.
- 7:04Speaker 1: So the currency is falling. Inflation is high. Prices are high.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Standard of living, quality of life sucks. Jobs are hard
- 7:12Speaker 1: to find. The Iranian economy is really suffering. I mean,
- 7:19Speaker 1: this war should be easily won. regime change should be
- 7:23Speaker 1: achievable if only the Trump administration was committed to doing that.
- 7:32Speaker 1: But here's the thing. The blockade should have been instituted
- 7:36Speaker 1: in day one of the war. It was not. Indeed,
- 7:39Speaker 1: oil sanctions were lifted in day one of the war,
- 7:41Speaker 1: hoping that that would help reduce oil prices. They should
- 7:45Speaker 1: have blockaded Iran in day one. Second, Oil is flowing
- 7:51Speaker 1: through the strait. Now, it's not flowing as if normal conditions.
- 7:55Speaker 1: In September, according to a tanker tracking organization called Kepler,
- 8:02Speaker 1: September flows through the strait, average about 10 million barrels
- 8:05Speaker 1: a day, plus about 6 million a day routed around
- 8:08Speaker 1: it by pipeline. Now, other tanker tracking websites or organizations...
- 8:20Speaker 1: placed a number, a different number, and of course the,
- 8:25Speaker 1: what do you call it, CENTCOM places the number much higher.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Tanker Tracker places the number at 7.4 million. But if
- 8:33Speaker 1: you add, if you take Kepler as reasonable, 10 million
- 8:38Speaker 1: plus 6 million routed, rounded pipelines, that's 16 million, you know,
- 8:43Speaker 1: that's 85% of pre-war levels. The problem with that is,
- 8:49Speaker 1: That's tankers. I don't have numbers and I haven't seen
- 8:53Speaker 1: numbers with regard to natural gas, LNG, liquefied natural gas.
- 9:00Speaker 1: And the reality is that given the spike in LNG
- 9:04Speaker 1: prices and what appears to be a shortage in Europe,
- 9:08Speaker 1: maybe oil is traveling through, but LNG is not. The
- 9:16Speaker 1: world is still struggling because... of what is going on
- 9:20Speaker 1: in the state of Hormuz and because of what the
- 9:22Speaker 1: Houthis are doing on the Red Sea. Prices are still
- 9:26Speaker 1: going up. Prices of diesel, and the shortages of diesel,
- 9:33Speaker 1: prices or shortages, no shortages. Prices are just going up.
- 9:38Speaker 1: That's the way you deal with supply reductions. But there
- 9:45Speaker 1: might actually be shortages of LNG because Europe, doesn't seem
- 9:49Speaker 1: to have stored enough energy this summer to get it
- 9:52Speaker 1: past the winter we'll see what happens between now and
- 9:56Speaker 1: winter but energy prices are up. Consumers around the world
- 10:00Speaker 1: are still suffering from the inability of Trump to end
- 10:04Speaker 1: this war, the inability of Trump to actually achieve victory
- 10:07Speaker 1: in this war. The entire world is suffering. And of course,
- 10:11Speaker 1: the fact, as I've talked about many, many, many times
- 10:14Speaker 1: on the show, the fact that early on in the war,
- 10:17Speaker 1: the Trump administration did not do what was necessary to
- 10:21Speaker 1: keep the state of Hormuz open. They could have. We're
- 10:25Speaker 1: seeing proof that they could have now. They still could
- 10:28Speaker 1: do more. But they're so risk-averse in terms of casualties,
- 10:35Speaker 1: in terms of potentially ground troops, in terms of taking
- 10:41Speaker 1: some of the islands from the Iranians. They're so cautious
- 10:44Speaker 1: about casualties. that they're not doing what is necessary to
- 10:49Speaker 1: win this. And there's no point in going to war
- 10:52Speaker 1: unless you're willing to win it. Unless you're not just willing,
- 10:57Speaker 1: unless you're committed to winning it. So a lot of
- 11:04Speaker 1: oil is flowing out of the Middle East. But with
- 11:07Speaker 1: China back buying a lot of oil and refining capacity
- 11:12Speaker 1: around the world limited, and the Russian capacity to refine
- 11:19Speaker 1: very limited because of Ukrainian attacks and because of shortages
- 11:24Speaker 1: in LNG, liquefied natural gas. Energy prices are up, up
- 11:30Speaker 1: across the entire world, and that is causing real angst.
- 11:39Speaker 1: And among the people paying the price for this American consumers,
- 11:45Speaker 1: and they're not happy. They're not happy. So, you know,
- 11:49Speaker 1: there's this thing called the Conference Board, and they run
- 11:52Speaker 1: a consumer confidence index. They manage that index through surveys.
- 11:58Speaker 1: They get the index through surveys that they do every month,
- 12:02Speaker 1: and they measure how confident consumers are in their economy
- 12:07Speaker 1: and their ability to consume. Of course, the best indication
- 12:11Speaker 1: of consumer confidence is how much they spend. And by
- 12:14Speaker 1: that measure, consumers still are spending. But the Conference Board
- 12:18Speaker 1: Consumer Confidence Index fell another 6.7 points in September to 81.9
- 12:25Speaker 1: from 88.6. That's the third straight monthly decline and the
- 12:29Speaker 1: sharpest monthly decline in a long time. So... Yeah, it's...
- 12:41Speaker 1: Measures across the board in terms of people's attitude towards
- 12:44Speaker 1: the economy show that people feel negatively about it. Business
- 12:50Speaker 1: conditions turned negative for the first time since September 2024.
- 12:54Speaker 1: Inflation expectations among people average around 6.1%, medium 5.1%. Both
- 13:01Speaker 1: are up 0.3 points. Inflation is about 3.7%. Again, this
- 13:06Speaker 1: is all price inflation. Look, this is what people care about.
- 13:10Speaker 1: What people care about is the fact that they pay
- 13:13Speaker 1: more for the stuff that they buy. What people care
- 13:16Speaker 1: about is the fact that their dollar is worth less
- 13:21Speaker 1: in terms of its purchasing power. That's the kind of
- 13:24Speaker 1: inflation people care about. Now, economists care about monetary inflation,
- 13:29Speaker 1: which manifests itself in all kinds of other things like malinvestment,
- 13:33Speaker 1: like investment in the wrong things, investments that don't actually
- 13:36Speaker 1: pay off. investment in things that ultimately will collapse, will
- 13:43Speaker 1: cause damage, or just investment in things that are not optimal,
- 13:49Speaker 1: that is invested in some things instead of other things
- 13:51Speaker 1: that should be invested in, all caused by monetary inflation.
- 13:56Speaker 1: But the reality is that what people care about is
- 14:00Speaker 1: grocery shopping. How much are their groceries costing? How much
- 14:03Speaker 1: are their automobiles that they buy costing? How much is
- 14:08Speaker 1: their affairs costing? How much does living cost them? And
- 14:14Speaker 1: are their wages keeping up? Most people are now saying
- 14:20Speaker 1: that jobs are hard to get. Consumers are naming prices,
- 14:25Speaker 1: fuel costs, and geopolitical tensions as their top worries. That's
- 14:30Speaker 1: from a survey from September 1 through 23. So right
- 14:40Speaker 1: now there's something called the Expectations Index, which is down
- 14:43Speaker 1: to 63.6. The Conference Board treats anything below 80 as
- 14:48Speaker 1: a signal of recession ahead, and this is well below 80.
- 14:52Speaker 1: It's not a perfect indicator, so I don't know that
- 14:56Speaker 1: it actually appears that recession is ahead. But things are
- 15:00Speaker 1: not doing well, right? And we talked about yesterday, 10-year
- 15:05Speaker 1: and 30-year bonds, 10-year bonds at well above 5, 5.2,
- 15:12Speaker 1: mortgages at above 7, it's not going to make consumers
- 15:16Speaker 1: more confident. It's going to make consumers less confident. So, yeah,
- 15:24Speaker 1: third month in a row that consumer confidence has softened.
- 15:29Speaker 1: And what are they concerned mostly about again? is fuel costs. Now,
- 15:37Speaker 1: President Trump has a solution for some of the fuel
- 15:40Speaker 1: cost problem, and that is diesel. Diesel has gone up
- 15:46Speaker 1: a lot. We've talked about this on the show, that
- 15:48Speaker 1: there are real constraints in terms of diesel, in terms
- 15:52Speaker 1: of refinery capacity, and the fact that that capacity, diesel
- 15:56Speaker 1: has to compete with things like jet fuel and other fuels.
- 16:00Speaker 1: And diesel prices are going up because there's not enough
- 16:04Speaker 1: It's not that there's no oil. There's not enough capacity
- 16:08Speaker 1: to refine that oil into diesel. Diesel is a product
- 16:13Speaker 1: of refining. Russia is a big refiner of diesel. The
- 16:22Speaker 1: Gulf states are big refiners. And again, one of the
- 16:24Speaker 1: things that... It seems like it's true that oil is
- 16:29Speaker 1: flowing out of the Middle East. The problem is... refined
- 16:36Speaker 1: products flowing out of the Middle East? Is LNG flowing
- 16:39Speaker 1: out of the Middle East? That we don't have any
- 16:42Speaker 1: real information about. Prices of LNG and prices of diesel
- 16:48Speaker 1: suggest that maybe not. Maybe not. As a consequence, Trump
- 16:56Speaker 1: is considering a ban on U.S. diesel exports. He says
- 17:00Speaker 1: he's considering it very seriously. This was talked about about
- 17:03Speaker 1: a week ago. And then he said, nah, I'm not
- 17:06Speaker 1: going to do that. And now he's back to saying
- 17:09Speaker 1: he's considering it very seriously. He hopes that by doing that,
- 17:14Speaker 1: he'd bring down record prices ahead of the midterms. No
- 17:20Speaker 1: decision is being made. Chris Wright, the Energy Secretary, is
- 17:25Speaker 1: more of a free marketer than Trump is. He's floated
- 17:28Speaker 1: the idea of setting limits instead of a blanket ban
- 17:32Speaker 1: on We'll see what they ultimately come up with. None
- 17:36Speaker 1: of this is good. Government intervention in the economy is
- 17:38Speaker 1: never good. A ban on diesel exports is not going
- 17:44Speaker 1: to solve the problem of refining capacity. And it's unlikely
- 17:52Speaker 1: that a ban on diesel exports will actually lower price.
- 17:57Speaker 1: We will see. Certainly not in the long run. Maybe
- 18:00Speaker 1: it's a short run like a price cap But it's
- 18:04Speaker 1: going to create problems. It's going to create real issues.
- 18:09Speaker 1: Diesel averaged about $ 6. 50 a gallon last week. It was $ 3. 75
- 18:15Speaker 1: a year ago, $ 5. 61 a month ago. The U.S. is
- 18:20Speaker 1: the world's largest diesel exporter. It ships about 1.4 to 1.6
- 18:25Speaker 1: million barrels a day of distillants, mostly to Europe and
- 18:31Speaker 1: Latin America. exports equal roughly 40% of U.S. domestic consumption.
- 18:38Speaker 1: So if they stop exporting, you know, that's 1.4, 1.6
- 18:45Speaker 1: million barrels that disappear from global markets. You'll see shortages
- 18:49Speaker 1: around the world. Those shortages in diesel might manifest in
- 18:56Speaker 1: other prices going up. There's no free lunch in economics.
- 19:00Speaker 1: There's no free lunch in economics. And everybody around Trump
- 19:05Speaker 1: should know this. I was going to say knows this,
- 19:07Speaker 1: but I don't know that they know it because he's
- 19:09Speaker 1: got a bunch of dumb people around him. They should
- 19:12Speaker 1: know this. So, you know, limiting exports will raise prices
- 19:18Speaker 1: in other countries, which will raise prices of imports into
- 19:21Speaker 1: the United States, which are already high because of tariffs.
- 19:25Speaker 1: The U.S. doesn't gain from this. So... Exports are about
- 19:33Speaker 1: 40% of U.S. consumption, so if we stop exporting, the
- 19:37Speaker 1: supply available domestically will increase. That is true. Prices might
- 19:45Speaker 1: come down, although, you know... we'll see how refiners behave.
- 19:52Speaker 1: Will refiners limit the capacity of how much they actually
- 20:00Speaker 1: refine in terms of diesel? Because they can refine other stuff.
- 20:05Speaker 1: They can use the They were finding capacity to do
- 20:07Speaker 1: other stuff because now they're making less money on their diesel.
- 20:11Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I haven't thought through all
- 20:13Speaker 1: the economic implications of this, but I can tell you
- 20:17Speaker 1: that price controls, export controls, import controls, they never, ever,
- 20:23Speaker 1: ever turn out the way the central planner expects them to.
- 20:27Speaker 1: They always have negative consequences. And the reason for that is,
- 20:32Speaker 1: Milton Friedman said, I think somebody said it way before
- 20:35Speaker 1: Milton Friedman, But there's no free lunch. You know, anything, anything,
- 20:43Speaker 1: anytime you manipulate the market, there are going to be
- 20:45Speaker 1: negative consequences to it. EU Energy Commissioner, in the meantime, EU,
- 20:51Speaker 1: European Union Energy Commissioner, wrote to all 27 member states
- 20:55Speaker 1: urging them to cut gas and electricity use, warning that
- 20:59Speaker 1: gas shortages, gas storage is exceptionally low. This is the
- 21:05Speaker 1: LNG problem. European officials are basically on the phone with
- 21:16Speaker 1: the Trump administration, really, really urging that this diesel export
- 21:23Speaker 1: ban not happen. I mean, this is what Trump said.
- 21:31Speaker 1: I've said, let's not send out the diesel. We make
- 21:34Speaker 1: a lot of diesel. And he sent this at the U.S.
- 21:38Speaker 1: General Assembly, right? last week. But then he retracted, and
- 21:43Speaker 1: now it's back on the table. I mean, pretty much
- 21:48Speaker 1: everybody's against this. The Europeans are, you know, really frantic
- 21:53Speaker 1: about trying to get the U.S. not to do this. U.S.
- 21:57Speaker 1: oil companies, obviously, don't want this to happen. Chamber of Commerce,
- 22:01Speaker 1: the Business Roundtable, these are businesses that use diesel. They're
- 22:06Speaker 1: asking Trump not to do this. They know that this
- 22:10Speaker 1: will disrupt and distort. And it just adds to this,
- 22:17Speaker 1: I think, idea globally, really becoming globally, but certainly among
- 22:22Speaker 1: our allies in places like Europe, that you can't trust America.
- 22:26Speaker 1: You cannot trust America. You know, we're importing diesel from America.
- 22:32Speaker 1: They might just stop selling it to us. So, Let's
- 22:37Speaker 1: make sure we're importing diesel from other places. Things like
- 22:42Speaker 1: this could move Europe to become much more pro-Russia. Russia
- 22:49Speaker 1: has diesel. They're happy to sell it to Europeans. Yeah,
- 22:57Speaker 1: we will see, right? Yeah. I mean, one commentator said,
- 23:06Speaker 1: diesel trades on the world market, just like corn. Force
- 23:10Speaker 1: a lower price and they'll make less diesel. You likely
- 23:15Speaker 1: see American refineries just making less diesel. So that's one
- 23:24Speaker 1: attack on trade that Trump is initiating, this idea of
- 23:28Speaker 1: we're going to ban exporting diesel. But he's also banning
- 23:32Speaker 1: importation as of midnight, or 12.01 today, a few hours ago.
- 23:40Speaker 1: The U.S. has banned importing of Canadian alcoholic drinks, Canadian
- 23:44Speaker 1: dairy products, including whey protein. So if you rely on
- 23:50Speaker 1: whey protein to mix your protein shake in the morning,
- 23:56Speaker 1: prices might have gone up. And we're limiting the importation
- 23:59Speaker 1: of Canadian motorcycles. I don't know, do you guys, What
- 24:03Speaker 1: motorcycle brands does Canada make that they export to the
- 24:07Speaker 1: United States? I don't know. It's about $ 967 million a
- 24:13Speaker 1: year worth of imports to the United States. 87% of
- 24:18Speaker 1: it is alcohol. This, of course, follows the 50% tariff
- 24:24Speaker 1: that Trump placed on Canadian goods, on about $ 20 billion
- 24:28Speaker 1: of Canadian goods. where he used a Depression-era Smoot-Hawley bill
- 24:35Speaker 1: to impose it. Canada, of course, retaliated with tariffs of
- 24:39Speaker 1: 15% to 50%, and some provinces pulled U.S. alcohol off
- 24:42Speaker 1: store shelves. I mean, Trump has said there's a way
- 24:47Speaker 1: out if Canada would only come to him and apologize.
- 24:51Speaker 1: So this is not about economics. This is not about geopolitics,
- 24:57Speaker 1: other than Trump flexing muscles. This is not about, I
- 25:03Speaker 1: don't know, national security. This is about Trump being insulted
- 25:07Speaker 1: and wanting an apology. This is about whim. Whim. Trump's whim.
- 25:22Speaker 1: You know, Canada says, yeah, we're going to trade with
- 25:27Speaker 1: other countries. The reality is 70% of all Canadian exports
- 25:31Speaker 1: went to the United States last year. Two-way trade is
- 25:35Speaker 1: about $ 880 billion. Remember, the tariff's only on $ 20 billion,
- 25:40Speaker 1: and the outright ban is only on $ 1 billion. So
- 25:44Speaker 1: you could say, $ 1 billion, who cares? And indeed, there
- 25:47Speaker 1: weren't a lot of headlines today about this ban going
- 25:49Speaker 1: into effect, because most people think, $ 1 billion, eh, you know,
- 25:54Speaker 1: chump change. But the reality is, a ban on $ 1
- 25:56Speaker 1: billion worth of stuff is incredibly destructive to the people
- 26:01Speaker 1: who can't get that stuff, who value it. Now, granted,
- 26:05Speaker 1: 87% of it is alcohol, but still, people consume alcohol.
- 26:09Speaker 1: They like the Canadian whatever, whiskey. They can't get it anymore.
- 26:15Speaker 1: People's lives are disrupted. And more than that, Canadian manufacturers
- 26:20Speaker 1: are going to lose money. People are going to lose jobs.
- 26:24Speaker 1: This is not good news. For Canadian manufacturers, I'll call
- 26:28Speaker 1: them manufacturers of motorcycles and even dairy farmers. And there's
- 26:32Speaker 1: no winners here. It's lose, lose, lose, lose, lose, lose, lose.
- 26:38Speaker 1: None of the losses there. Trump has no strategy. It's
- 26:43Speaker 1: completely driven by whim. It's completely driven by emotion. Come
- 26:47Speaker 1: and apologize. Come and apologize. Canada retaliates with tariffs, so
- 26:57Speaker 1: they hurt themselves and they hurt American producers. It's lose, lose, lose, lose, lose,
- 27:02Speaker 1: as I said. It really is sad and pathetic. Now,
- 27:11Speaker 1: as I said, this affects a small fraction of trade
- 27:16Speaker 1: with Canada. Total trade is $ 880 billion. This affects, what,
- 27:18Speaker 1: $ 21 billion. The rest is covered under the, I forget
- 27:28Speaker 1: the acronym, but it's NAFTA, the new NAFTA, the Trump-negotiated NAFTA.
- 27:35Speaker 1: But if Trump walks away from that, if Trump refuses
- 27:40Speaker 1: to renew that, and now you're putting $ 880 billion worth
- 27:46Speaker 1: of trade at risk, I mean, then you'll have a
- 27:49Speaker 1: real diesel shortage because the reality is, that a lot
- 27:52Speaker 1: of the refining to diesel uses Canadian oil, heavy oil
- 27:57Speaker 1: that U.S. refineries are very good at using. It would
- 28:01Speaker 1: be a massive disaster for the U.S. economy. I mean,
- 28:04Speaker 1: the relatively small tariffs on a small segment, or high
- 28:09Speaker 1: tariffs on a small segment of Canadian goods is already destructive.
- 28:13Speaker 1: But if you actually tariff all $ 880 billion of trade
- 28:17Speaker 1: that's covered today on the NAFTA, that's just... economic stupidity
- 28:22Speaker 1: and economic disaster. And there's no reason for it. Again,
- 28:25Speaker 1: no reason for it. There's no economist, no economist in
- 28:30Speaker 1: the world out there that thinks this is a good idea.
- 28:33Speaker 1: Trump is just a, as I said, he has an understanding,
- 28:37Speaker 1: a five-year-old's understanding of trade, a five-year-old's understanding of economics.
- 28:49Speaker 1: You can't, claim national security. You can't claim that Canada's
- 28:55Speaker 1: not being fair to the United States. Fair, whatever the
- 28:57Speaker 1: hell that means. Canadian tariffs on American goods have been
- 29:03Speaker 1: basically zero. Literally, there's no excuse for this. None. Zero. Nada.
- 29:11Speaker 1: Not even by some you know fantasy of unfairness. The
- 29:20Speaker 1: only reason this is happening is because Trump hates trade deficits.
- 29:25Speaker 1: Because he's ignorant. Ignorant and dumb. And generally, I'll say
- 29:33Speaker 1: this again. I've said it a hundred times. I'll say
- 29:35Speaker 1: it another hundred times. Maybe I'll say it a thousand times.
- 29:37Speaker 1: Who knows how many times I'll have to say it.
- 29:40Speaker 1: for some of this to sink in with some of you.
- 29:42Speaker 1: The only legitimate trade policy a government should engage in
- 29:50Speaker 1: is no trade policy. Zero tariffs. Unilaterally. Lower tariffs to zero. Oh,
- 30:02Speaker 1: it's a negotiating tactic. He wants all the other countries
- 30:05Speaker 1: to lower tariffs. Well, it's failed. It's failing. Tariffs for
- 30:12Speaker 1: the U.S. globally have increased significantly because of Trump. Trade
- 30:19Speaker 1: has gotten worse, not better. I advocate for zero tariffs. Zero.
- 30:30Speaker 1: If you want to tax consumption... then you should have
- 30:33Speaker 1: a consumption tax across all goods. I'd like to get
- 30:37Speaker 1: rid of the income tax before we did that. But
- 30:43Speaker 1: a tariff is just a stupid tax, a discriminatory tax,
- 30:49Speaker 1: a hurtful tax, a harmful tax. It has no benefits.
- 30:55Speaker 1: And even if other countries tariff our goods, we should
- 30:59Speaker 1: not tariff their goods. If other countries want to do
- 31:01Speaker 1: stupid stuff, We shouldn't do stupid stuff in response to them.
- 31:07Speaker 1: Basic economics, people. Basic economics. Tariffs are tax. A consumption
- 31:13Speaker 1: tax on some goods. The fact that other countries have
- 31:17Speaker 1: high taxes does not mean the United States should have
- 31:19Speaker 1: high taxes. If, you know, the socialists in the UK
- 31:29Speaker 1: increase taxes on goods, The Brits, should Americans increase taxes
- 31:33Speaker 1: as well? No. Taxes are just taxes. If you think
- 31:37Speaker 1: about it as taxes, it's really easy to understand. We
- 31:44Speaker 1: don't like taxes. Taxes are bad. If you tax something,
- 31:47Speaker 1: you get less of it. Tax imports, you get less imports.
- 31:51Speaker 1: There's nothing good about getting less imports. No benefit to that.
- 31:59Speaker 1: So what we have right now is prices are up.
- 32:02Speaker 1: to a large extent because of tariffs. And by the way,
- 32:05Speaker 1: Republicans are going to lose the House and the Senate,
- 32:08Speaker 1: maybe the Senate, to a large extent because of tariffs,
- 32:11Speaker 1: even from a purely political perspective, even from a pro-Trump perspective. Yay, yay,
- 32:16Speaker 1: go Republicans. This is such a disastrous policy. Such an
- 32:23Speaker 1: unbelievably disastrous policy. By the way, for those of you
- 32:26Speaker 1: who are not regular listeners, watchers of the Iran book show,
- 32:31Speaker 1: If you're interested in more of my thoughts about trade,
- 32:33Speaker 1: about tariffs, I've got a long history of talking about that.
- 32:38Speaker 1: Just put Yaron Brook Trade or Yaron Brook Tariffs in
- 32:42Speaker 1: YouTube and you will find some in-depth analysis that I've
- 32:49Speaker 1: done over the many, many years, starting with Trump's election,
- 32:53Speaker 1: regarding trade, tariffs, free trade, what that means, what fair
- 32:57Speaker 1: trade means, what the history of free trade is, where
- 33:00Speaker 1: the concept of fair trade comes from. All of this stuff,
- 33:04Speaker 1: you know, can tariffs achieve anything? All of those questions
- 33:09Speaker 1: I've answered, happy to answer them here in the Super
- 33:12Speaker 1: Chat again, but all of those questions have been answered
- 33:14Speaker 1: in previous shows, and I've had shows 100% dedicated just
- 33:18Speaker 1: to the issue of trade. So check it out. So
- 33:21Speaker 1: price is up, confidence in John is down. There's a
- 33:25Speaker 1: trade war. You would think Americans are getting poorer, right?
- 33:32Speaker 1: Are they? Is the Americans getting poorer? So the Congressional
- 33:38Speaker 1: Budget Office has just released the distribution of household income
- 33:42Speaker 1: for 2023. Now, granted, we're in 2026, but the government
- 33:47Speaker 1: is slow. Getting this data is hard. Putting it all together,
- 33:52Speaker 1: analyzing it, not easy. So there are a few years behind.
- 33:57Speaker 1: But let's look at 2023, because I don't think things
- 34:01Speaker 1: have gotten that much worse since 2023. Remember, 2023 is
- 34:05Speaker 1: in the midst of the Biden-era inflation. So here's some
- 34:12Speaker 1: facts around this. Let me just quote from Scott Lincecum
- 34:16Speaker 1: on X. Quote, real incomes up across the board. Income
- 34:22Speaker 1: inequality basically flat for decades. Taxes falling for everyone except
- 34:28Speaker 1: the rich. That's Scott Lincecum's summary of what the Congressional
- 34:33Speaker 1: Budget Office has released. Here's some data. And, you know,
- 34:38Speaker 1: we've been talking about this on the Iran Brook Show
- 34:40Speaker 1: for a long time. All the hype about how awful
- 34:43Speaker 1: things are for American workers is just wrong. About 134
- 34:49Speaker 1: million households earned about $ 20 trillion in 2023. Between 2022
- 34:53Speaker 1: and 2023, income for the lowest Quinta rose 5%. Now,
- 35:03Speaker 1: all the numbers I'm giving you, all the numbers I'm
- 35:07Speaker 1: giving you are inflation adjusted. Again, inflation being price inflation.
- 35:13Speaker 1: Income for the lowest, Quinta, rose 5%. The top 1%
- 35:17Speaker 1: fell 9%, mostly from lower capital gains. That was in 2023.
- 35:24Speaker 1: Since then, incomes for the top 1% have risen a lot.
- 35:29Speaker 1: Income inequality fell in 2023 relative to 2022 because of
- 35:34Speaker 1: the lower capital gains and the fact that income of
- 35:38Speaker 1: the top 1% fell and lowest quintile rose. Now, that
- 35:45Speaker 1: is true, the inequality, before or after transfers and taxes,
- 35:51Speaker 1: however you want to look at it. Now, again, income
- 35:54Speaker 1: inequality doesn't matter I've made this case over and over again.
- 35:58Speaker 1: I have a whole book about it. But people are
- 36:01Speaker 1: anxious about income inequality, and yet it's not getting, quote,
- 36:07Speaker 1: worse from their perspective. It's not. From 1979 to 2023,
- 36:13Speaker 1: real income, inflation adjusted. Before transfers and taxes, the lowest
- 36:20Speaker 1: quintile rose from about 19,000 to 28,500, so it rose 50%.
- 36:26Speaker 1: the highest quintile, from about 179,000 to 409,000, 128%. Every group,
- 36:36Speaker 1: every single group of income is richer than they were
- 36:42Speaker 1: in 1979. Now, it's true. The rich are getting rich
- 36:46Speaker 1: faster than the poor are getting richer. That is absolutely right.
- 36:51Speaker 1: The lowest quintile rose 50%. The highest rose 128%. But
- 36:57Speaker 1: everybody's better off. In real terms. Inflation adjusted. Taxes. The
- 37:07Speaker 1: lowest quintile's average federal tax rate is negative. About negative 11%.
- 37:15Speaker 1: Meaning they get refunds. They get credits. They get from
- 37:21Speaker 1: the government more than they paid. And you know, that
- 37:30Speaker 1: fell by another one point in 2023. The top 1%
- 37:38Speaker 1: rate rose by about a point. So the so-called rich
- 37:43Speaker 1: are paying more taxes. The so-called poor are receiving more
- 37:49Speaker 1: from the government, is the way to think about it.
- 37:54Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about who raised taxes, the
- 37:55Speaker 1: top quintile, now pays about 70%. Quintile is top 20%,
- 37:58Speaker 1: is that right? Quint is five, so top 20%. Now
- 38:01Speaker 1: pays about 70% of all federal taxes, up from 55%
- 38:06Speaker 1: in 1979. The top 1%, the top 1%, pay about
- 38:08Speaker 1: 26% of all taxes, federal taxes, up from 14%. Now,
- 38:30Speaker 1: you know, you can go to Scott Linscombe's X-Page or
- 38:35Speaker 1: Substack and you can find a ton of graphs and
- 38:37Speaker 1: information about this. But basically, America's poor middle class household
- 38:43Speaker 1: has seen significant income gains since the 1990s in particular,
- 38:48Speaker 1: especially after transfers and taxes. If you count welfare, if
- 38:52Speaker 1: you count transfers, negative income tax rates and all of that,
- 39:01Speaker 1: the lowest fifth have seen their income rise faster than
- 39:08Speaker 1: the median, faster than the second fifth, the middle fifth.
- 39:13Speaker 1: They've increased their income substantially. Here's another, I'm looking at
- 39:22Speaker 1: another thing. America's poor middle class families with children have
- 39:25Speaker 1: seen significant income gains since 1990s. especially after transfers and taxes.
- 39:31Speaker 1: So again, this is middle-class and poor families with children.
- 39:40Speaker 1: So everybody's richer. Everybody's richer. And significantly so. Now it
- 39:45Speaker 1: is true that everybody got much richer during COVID because
- 39:48Speaker 1: they got checks from the government. And then those checks
- 39:51Speaker 1: went away. They got a little poorer. Maybe that's why
- 39:53Speaker 1: they feel poor right now. I don't know. But they're
- 39:56Speaker 1: much poorer. They're much richer. Their income is up relative
- 40:00Speaker 1: to where it was before COVID. And this is for
- 40:04Speaker 1: the lowest fifth, the second fifth, the middle fifth. Now,
- 40:08Speaker 1: it's true. Again, the top is doing great. Stock market
- 40:14Speaker 1: is up. Home prices are up. So they're doing fantastic.
- 40:21Speaker 1: post-taxes and transfer, income inequality has been roughly flat since 2000.
- 40:28Speaker 1: So the gap, the gap between how much the rich
- 40:35Speaker 1: make and how much the middle class or the poor make,
- 40:39Speaker 1: pretty stable since 2000. Which is, again, you don't hear that.
- 40:46Speaker 1: I don't know if this is good or bad, I'm
- 40:50Speaker 1: just saying. Since 1989, average federal tax rates fell for
- 40:58Speaker 1: the bottom four-fifths. So the bottom 80% of taxpayers have
- 41:04Speaker 1: paid less taxes in 2023 than they paid in 1989.
- 41:09Speaker 1: But they rose for the top 20% and especially for
- 41:10Speaker 1: the top 1%. Again, exactly the opposite. Of what you
- 41:22Speaker 1: hear out there, the rich don't pay any taxes. They
- 41:25Speaker 1: pay zero taxes. Just untrue. Untrue. So, yeah. Everything you
- 41:35Speaker 1: hear about these things, pretty stunning how much falsehoods are
- 41:42Speaker 1: out there. Real median household income has reached its highest
- 41:46Speaker 1: level on record in 2025. real median household income, reached
- 41:53Speaker 1: its highest level on record in 2025. And households are
- 41:58Speaker 1: a lot smaller today than they were back in the 1960s.
- 42:02Speaker 1: I'm looking at a graph that starts in 1967 and
- 42:06Speaker 1: goes up to 2025. And it's up. And yet, in 1967,
- 42:11Speaker 1: households were big. In 2025, households are small. So if
- 42:15Speaker 1: you look at it per person, not on a household basis,
- 42:18Speaker 1: income is way up. Since 1967, this is amazing, since 1967,
- 42:28Speaker 1: the share of households with incomes of $ 100, 000 or more,
- 42:33Speaker 1: in real terms, inflation adjusted, has nearly tripled. Has nearly tripled. Pre-tax.
- 42:53Speaker 1: Cash-only Gini Index, Gini Index is the way they measure inequality,
- 43:00Speaker 1: has risen modestly since the early 1990s. So inequality for pre-tax, pre-tax,
- 43:11Speaker 1: before you pay taxes and before, you know, goodies are
- 43:17Speaker 1: paid to you, has risen modestly. If you include, what
- 43:28Speaker 1: do you call it? If you include transfers and taxes,
- 43:34Speaker 1: it has not. It's been flat. Since 1967, the share
- 43:39Speaker 1: of households with income of $ 150, 000, again, inflation adjusted, has
- 43:46Speaker 1: more than quintupled. Quintupled. And this is the share. This
- 43:54Speaker 1: is not just the share number. Today is 28% of
- 43:59Speaker 1: households and was 5% of households. Again, in real terms, right?
- 44:09Speaker 1: And then since 1967, real household income has risen by
- 44:12Speaker 1: more than half at the 10th and 20th percentiles and
- 44:17Speaker 1: at the median. So basically, everybody's income is going up.
- 44:23Speaker 1: At least, you know, until... at least as of 2025.
- 44:30Speaker 1: I don't think much has changed since then. All right.
- 44:35Speaker 1: You know, that's some of the good news in spite
- 44:38Speaker 1: of people feeling poor, in spite of people having no confidence,
- 44:43Speaker 1: all of that. Do you see the economy, if you
- 44:50Speaker 1: actually look at the numbers, do you see the economy
- 44:54Speaker 1: is doing okay? Okay. could be doing a lot better.
- 44:57Speaker 1: People's wages, income, is up. Now, a lot of that
- 45:01Speaker 1: has to do with transfers, welfare. But that should make
- 45:06Speaker 1: people feel good. But it doesn't, because welfare doesn't. The
- 45:11Speaker 1: middle class is shrinking because people are becoming rich. More
- 45:15Speaker 1: and more people are entering upper middle class and wealthy.
- 45:22Speaker 1: And the wealthy are are paying more and more and
- 45:25Speaker 1: more taxes. And basically, the bottom 80% of Americans pay
- 45:31Speaker 1: very little taxes into 80% of their income. The exact
- 45:41Speaker 1: opposite of what you're led to believe by both left
- 45:43Speaker 1: and right, because every politician in America tells you the
- 45:47Speaker 1: middle class is being hollowed out. Every politician in America
- 45:51Speaker 1: is telling you wages are stagnating. Every politician in America
- 45:54Speaker 1: is saying things are awful and it's all because of
- 45:57Speaker 1: the Chinese and immigrants and H-1Bs and the Jews and
- 46:05Speaker 1: the elites and whatever. It turns out that the Congressional
- 46:11Speaker 1: Budget Office, Congress's own scorekeeper, says, wait a minute, none
- 46:16Speaker 1: of that is true. Even the story of the rich
- 46:21Speaker 1: don't pay their, quote, fair share, whatever the hell that is,
- 46:25Speaker 1: is just not true, given that we've only increased the
- 46:29Speaker 1: percentage of the tax burden that is borne by the
- 46:34Speaker 1: so-called rich. All right. Why are you guys talking about Apple's?
- 46:50Speaker 1: Maybe because, maybe it's a trade issue. I don't know.
- 46:52Speaker 1: I've missed the chat. I haven't been following, and the
- 46:55Speaker 1: conversation has moved to apples. By the way, very few questions. So,
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- 48:03Speaker 1: So we're getting richer. But it seems like a lot
- 48:08Speaker 1: of young Americans think that the real problem lie with
- 48:15Speaker 1: the opposite sex. So the Survey Center of American Life,
- 48:22Speaker 1: the Survey Center on American Life, which is run by
- 48:26Speaker 1: the American Enterprise Institute, ran a survey as of September 22nd.
- 48:32Speaker 1: And the survey results suggest that young Americans increasingly blame
- 48:36Speaker 1: the other sex for their problems. And it splits along
- 48:41Speaker 1: party lines, unsurprisingly. 66% of young Democratic women 66% of
- 48:50Speaker 1: young Democratic women say men are responsible for many of
- 48:54Speaker 1: the problems women face. 18% of young Republican women agree.
- 49:04Speaker 1: I mean, it's, wow. I mean, it's pretty amazing. The
- 49:09Speaker 1: partisan split there, the partisan break there. 66% of young
- 49:13Speaker 1: Democratic women blame men 18% of young Republican women blame men.
- 49:24Speaker 1: Maybe the Republican women just want to be trad wives
- 49:27Speaker 1: anyway and they don't have any problems because the man
- 49:32Speaker 1: is going to take care of them. Men are responsible
- 49:36Speaker 1: for many of the problems women face. On the other hand,
- 49:39Speaker 1: flip side of that, 26% of young Republican men, 26%,
- 49:44Speaker 1: a quarter of all Republican men, say women are responsible
- 49:47Speaker 1: for many of the problems men face. Isn't that interesting?
- 49:51Speaker 1: It's only 26%. Among men overall, the number is 16%,
- 50:00Speaker 1: which means that the Democratic men, it's far less than that.
- 50:04Speaker 1: They think it's politically incorrect to blame women. So 26%
- 50:10Speaker 1: of young Republican men say women are responsible for many
- 50:13Speaker 1: of the problems men face. Yeah, I mean, there's a
- 50:15Speaker 1: growing movement on the right to blame everything on men,
- 50:19Speaker 1: on women, to blame it on the women getting the vote, right?
- 50:27Speaker 1: I mean, there's a very influential pastor. I think he's
- 50:30Speaker 1: the pastor for either J.D. Vance or Hegseth, or maybe both.
- 50:34Speaker 1: I think Hegseth. Hegseth's pastor, the Secretary of War, who
- 50:40Speaker 1: thinks that women should not be allowed to vote and
- 50:42Speaker 1: they should do away with. So it's super tribal, super collectivistic,
- 50:52Speaker 1: men versus women, another tribal split. More than two-thirds of
- 51:00Speaker 1: young women say women face a lot of discrimination, a lot.
- 51:06Speaker 1: I wonder if the women here think that's true. I
- 51:09Speaker 1: understand some discrimination, because I think women do. A lot
- 51:13Speaker 1: of discrimination in the world in which we live today?
- 51:18Speaker 1: I don't know. That seems like it's coming from a
- 51:22Speaker 1: place of entitlement. I don't know. Maybe something else. Again,
- 51:27Speaker 1: this is all young women who didn't experience... I mean,
- 51:32Speaker 1: if you guys have seen the show Mad Men, And
- 51:36Speaker 1: one of the things I found amazing about Mad Men,
- 51:39Speaker 1: not only is the fact that everybody is smoking and
- 51:41Speaker 1: drinking constantly, drinking alcohol constantly, but how women are treated.
- 51:47Speaker 1: And I think it's a pretty accurate depiction of Madison Avenue,
- 51:51Speaker 1: of an advertising agency in the 1950s and early 1960s.
- 51:58Speaker 1: And I can understand if you grew up in that environment,
- 52:02Speaker 1: the resentment you would have. Because the discrimination was brutal
- 52:06Speaker 1: and unjust, unfair, and just horrific. But I don't think
- 52:15Speaker 1: that's true anymore. I think, if anything, the world is
- 52:21Speaker 1: going out of its way to treat women more equally
- 52:25Speaker 1: and going out of the way to treat women even
- 52:27Speaker 1: better than men in some cases. So a lot of
- 52:30Speaker 1: discrimination sounds wrong to me, right? Sounds wrong to me. Yeah,
- 52:40Speaker 1: Linda says, I faced some bias in job hunting in
- 52:43Speaker 1: the late 1960s, but not after that. Yeah, I don't,
- 52:48Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at women achieving senior management
- 52:52Speaker 1: positions now, more and more, entering more and more jobs, look,
- 52:57Speaker 1: a lot of it is choices women make in terms
- 53:00Speaker 1: of the kind of professions they go into and so on.
- 53:02Speaker 1: That's why You get a lot of underrepresentation in certain areas,
- 53:05Speaker 1: but I don't think you can blame discrimination. Not a
- 53:09Speaker 1: lot of it. I'm not saying it's gone completely. It's
- 53:11Speaker 1: probably not gone completely. Democratic women are far more likely
- 53:21Speaker 1: than Republican women to say that men are responsible for
- 53:23Speaker 1: many of the problems women have. Yeah, this is what
- 53:27Speaker 1: the survey concludes, and that's absolutely true. I think there's
- 53:33Speaker 1: a much more of a, on the left, there's much
- 53:36Speaker 1: more of a oppressor-oppressed attitude. And I'm being oppressed and
- 53:42Speaker 1: kind of a victimhood mentality on the left. The right
- 53:46Speaker 1: has its own problems. The fact that 26% of young
- 53:50Speaker 1: Republican men think women are responsible for their problems suggests
- 53:54Speaker 1: low self-esteem among many other things among them. Yeah. So yes,
- 54:02Speaker 1: more collectivism, more tribalism. But if you want something to
- 54:12Speaker 1: worry about, I'm not sure you should be worried about
- 54:20Speaker 1: men and women undermining you or the other sex undermining you.
- 54:25Speaker 1: You should really be worried about AI or maybe you
- 54:27Speaker 1: should be worried about AI companies. I mean, it's pretty
- 54:30Speaker 1: amazing what's going on right now. And every day there's news.
- 54:33Speaker 1: Every day there is news. And the industry is just
- 54:39Speaker 1: completely bought in to the catastrophizing. So Anthropic has filed
- 54:46Speaker 1: its S-1 prospectus. Now, S-1 is what you file as
- 54:51Speaker 1: a form, regulatory requirement. You file when you plan to
- 54:55Speaker 1: go public. They are planning a NASDAQ listing. And, you know,
- 55:01Speaker 1: maybe in November. And there are 261 pages. This NASDAQ,
- 55:08Speaker 1: the filing, the S-1 prospectus. It's 261 pages, which is,
- 55:12Speaker 1: you know, I think pretty average. 80. 80 of the
- 55:17Speaker 1: 261 pages. 80. So a third. Just under a third
- 55:24Speaker 1: of all the pages are dedicated to risks. The filing
- 55:30Speaker 1: actually warns. This is, we're going public. We're asking you
- 55:35Speaker 1: to give us money and to give us a, they're
- 55:38Speaker 1: seeking a $ 2 trillion valuation. They're warning that advanced models
- 55:46Speaker 1: could have, quote, catastrophic or existential consequences. It lists self-preserving behavior,
- 55:55Speaker 1: such as resisting shutdowns, and hiding or manipulating information and
- 56:01Speaker 1: behavior that resembles blackmail. Give me billions and billions of dollars,
- 56:12Speaker 1: tens of billions of dollars. Give me a valuation of
- 56:16Speaker 1: $ 2 trillion for a product that is likely to kill
- 56:22Speaker 1: you all. Now, there's a compelling investment thesis I've never
- 56:28Speaker 1: heard of a more compelling investment thesis than that. Give
- 56:31Speaker 1: me money so I can kill you. About 6% of
- 56:38Speaker 1: Anthropic's research computing, right? So computing, the amount of money
- 56:43Speaker 1: they spend on computing goes to safety. At least that
- 56:47Speaker 1: was the number in July. In 2025, revenues at Anthropic
- 56:53Speaker 1: were $ 4. 6 billion. That's up about 12x revenue. from a
- 56:58Speaker 1: year earlier. The operating loss was about $ 8 billion, so
- 57:02Speaker 1: they're losing money. And they have commitments for about $ 518
- 57:08Speaker 1: billion in plant infrastructure. Two customers, I don't know which ones,
- 57:14Speaker 1: but two customers alone represent 25% of 2025 revenue. And
- 57:17Speaker 1: they expect a valuation of $ 2 trillion on May. operating
- 57:28Speaker 1: loss of $ 8 billion, and capital commitments of $ 518 billion. So,
- 57:40Speaker 1: I mean, the valuation seems ridiculous to me, but what
- 57:45Speaker 1: do I know? I thought SpaceX valuation was, you know,
- 57:49Speaker 1: way too high as well. The market seems to disagree,
- 57:54Speaker 1: which is fine. But What I really found astounding, right,
- 58:00Speaker 1: really find astounding, astounding, I can't speak, is the fact
- 58:13Speaker 1: that they want your money, they want the valuation, and
- 58:20Speaker 1: they're arguing in their prospectus that they might kill you all.
- 58:28Speaker 1: It's a very strange world we live in. Very, very
- 58:33Speaker 1: strange world where companies think that this is a reasonable
- 58:42Speaker 1: thing to do. All right, let's see. I was just
- 58:49Speaker 1: looking at SpaceX. SpaceX went public, I think, at 150, 150,
- 58:53Speaker 1: and it's trading at 149. So it's down a little bit,
- 58:58Speaker 1: but it's basically flat to when it went public. It's
- 59:00Speaker 1: been down quite a bit to 108. It was up
- 59:04Speaker 1: to 214, you know, within a couple of days. But
- 59:08Speaker 1: it's it then it came down to 108 to cover
- 59:11Speaker 1: to 149 we'll see what the long term what the
- 59:14Speaker 1: long term is all right so that's anthropic give me
- 59:19Speaker 1: your money and i'll kill you open ai at the
- 59:22Speaker 1: same time announced today that it has canceled the release
- 59:26Speaker 1: of gpt 6.1 astra after it failed internal safety and
- 59:32Speaker 1: alignment testing. On Friday, it had paused training of its
- 59:36Speaker 1: most powerful systems. Reports that OpenAI deployed AI agents probed
- 59:43Speaker 1: Census Bureau and SEC websites using leaked credentials. A research
- 59:51Speaker 1: group found agents also tried to hack the Education Department's
- 59:55Speaker 1: civil rights site. In July, OpenAI agent escaped a test
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: environment and broke into a hugging face. We've talked about
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: that in the past. Florida Attorney General James Uthmeyer, a Republican,
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: has asked the court today to force OpenAI to halt development.
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: So OpenAI is in a sense, has canceled the release,
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: pausing training. All these agents are supposed to be hacking
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: into all these places. I'm still waiting for the full story.
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: I don't think even the Hugging Face, we know all
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: the facts yet. I suspect Hugging Face, the people who
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: programmed the agents knew a lot more than they're suggesting.
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: hacking the Census Bureau and the SEC website and education department. Why?
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: What were the mission they were after? What was being tested? Anyway,
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: you know, a lot of information still is coming, right?
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: So OpenAI and Anatopic are basically saying what we produce
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: is very dangerous. OpenAI is slowing down. release. Anthropic is
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: trying to raise capital while telling people it's going to
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: kill them. In the meantime, Trump is hosting a White
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: House event to launch America.gov. I'm not sure what that is.
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: And pitch an AI golden age. He is meeting privately with,
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: he had dinner with Amandai, which is the CEO of Anthropic.
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: He's meeting with Jensen Huang from NVIDIA, Mark Zuckerberg, Sundar Pichai,
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: Pichai from Microsoft and the Speaker of the House. So,
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: you know, Trump has called AI risk a hoax. I'm
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: not sure AI risk is a hoax, but I think
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: that these AI companies can deal with the risk and
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: that other companies can deal with the risk. As we
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: talked about yesterday, one of the ways to deal with
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: AI risk, and there is risk, is AI. AI is
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: the best way to deal with AI risk. Anyway, we
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: will see. This is a continuously evolving story. We've got
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: one AI company telling the SEC its product could threaten humanity,
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: another pulling its newest model off the shelf, and the president,
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: of course, calling everything a hoax. I mean, there's just
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: no adults in the room that are actually dealing with
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: this I'm glad the president thinks it's a hoax because
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: that means he'll leave it alone. But in the meantime,
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: Attorney General of Florida is suing Anthropic and demanding it
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: be shut down. Or OpenAI, suing OpenAI and demanding it
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: be shut down. Oh, Sandra Pichai is a Google CEO. Sorry. Sorry.
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: Not Microsoft. I mean, yeah. All right. From the newest
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: technology on earth to the oldest need there is, a
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: roof over your head, right? And Spain, the country I'm
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: in right now, thinks that the government can figure this out,
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: you know, solve the problem of housing. So there's a
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: big story in Spain over the last few days about
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: this woman, Marie Carmen Abascal. She's 87 years old. And
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: she was evicted from her Madrid apartment, the city I'm
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: in right now, because she couldn't pay the rent. You know,
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: the rent was going to increase, and she refused to
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: pay it. She couldn't meet it. And she was literally
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: carried out of her Madrid apartment on a stretcher, on
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: a stretcher because she couldn't walk. She's that old. Her
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: landlord is a company called Urba Gestion, a small property
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: investment company. Now, what followed was protests and rent camps. Luckily,
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: not near where I'm staying. And, you know, people upset.
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: This is altruism kicking in. Oh, my God, an 87-year-old
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: couldn't pay her rent. Oh, my God, she's got dragged
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: out of her home on a stretcher. We have to
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: do something. Typically. Anyway, today Spain's socialist government has answered
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: with a sweeping housing decree. Here's the decree. Abandon evictions
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: until 2030. Wow, this is cool. I can stop paying
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: rent until 2030 and I cannot be evicted. How cool
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: is that? I'm going to move to Madrid. Rental contracts
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: roll over automatically until 2028. So no rental increases until 2028. Wow.
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: Investment firms are banned from buying homes. Well, we did
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: that in the U.S. The Vulture Fund label now covers
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: all speculative buyers broadly. Vulture Funds, that sounds evil. There
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: are much stricter rules, according to this decree, on short-term
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: and room rentals. So, Airbnb. Health Minister Monica Garcia says
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: this will bring relief to more than 5 million people.
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: It's another one of those, you know, there are so
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: many bad things that are going to happen as a
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: consequence of this. First of all, immediately more people are
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: going to want to rent places in Madrid. And, you know,
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: they're not going to be available because landlords are just
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: not going to offer their apartments for rent. They're going
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: to hold them empty rather than do this. Evictions, abandon
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: evictions until 2030. Guess what's going to happen? Guess how
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: many people are going to stop paying rent? Now, this
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: isn't law. The government has 30 days to get parliamentary
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: approval for it, and they do not have a guaranteed
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: majority because they actually have a minority government. So we
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: will see. So, you know, there's a Catalan party in
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: the Spanish parliament, these local political parties that... that run
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: basically on regional issues. So, for example, the Catalan party
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: backstopping evictions by big funds, but objects to, you know,
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: lumping in small owners. So they might stop this or
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: might have to revise it. As the spokesman of the
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: Catalan party says, putting them all in one basket is
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: a mistake. Again, no principles. What is small? What is big?
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: Why a big no? Small yeah? It just doesn't make sense. Again,
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: everybody wants to micromanage. Everybody wants to be a central planner.
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: Everybody thinks they can do better than the market. And
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: the reality, the absolute unquestionable reality is none of them can.
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: None of them can. Now it turns out that the
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: woman who was evicted, the company that evicted her is
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: now offered to let her return for about $ 500 a month,
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: 500 euro a month, which is 30% of her pension
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: and about her old rent. And they've offered to do
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: this for the next eight years. Or I guess, no,
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: the rent was from the last eight years. Her lawyer
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: is saying there's a deal. But she hasn't signed it yet, so,
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: you know. Anyway, you know, altruism in action. An 87-year-old
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: woman on a stretcher, and the Spanish government's response is,
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: tell every landlord in the country they can't evict anyone
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: for four years. Unbelievable. All right, Spain wants to cap
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: landlords and tell them what they can do with their property.
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: The U.S. Senate just voted to cap what 19-year-olds can
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: earn with their talent at college. Now here's, this is
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: so distorted. So today, or yesterday, actually yesterday, the Senate
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: passed the Protect College Sports Act. The passage was led
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: by Senator Ted Cruz yesterday. And it passed by 77
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: to 22. It goes to the House after the midterms.
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: So here's some of the facts, right? The bill caps
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: athlete pay at $ 21. 6 million per athletic department, plus a $ 22. 5
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: million retention fund meant to discourage transfers. Athletes get one
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: transfer and a 10-year window to graduate. Schools must provide
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: health care, including for injuries found after athletes leave. Athletes
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: are not employees. The bill codifies NIL rights and blocks
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: breakaway leagues. So ridiculous. Backers. So there are 32 conferences,
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: 380 plus colleges, the NFL, the NBA, the MLB, the NHL.
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: They all back this. The Congressional Black Caucus opposes it
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: because it will reduce athlete pay, and many of them
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: are black, I guess. What isn't capped? Ohio State alone
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: is estimated to pay its football team $ 49 to $ 55
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: million this season. The cap would be $ 21. 6 for the
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: whole department, so it would basically be cutting the amount
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: Ohio State could pay by more than half. LSU gave
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin Seven years, $ 91 million. And paid fired coach
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, a $ 54 million buyout. Northwestern's new football stadium
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: cost $ 875 million. So those are not going to be capped.
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: So the coaches' salaries, the stadiums, those are not capped.
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: Only the athletes' salaries are capped. Now why are they
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: doing this? They're doing it because... You know, it's just
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: not the way it used to be. College football used
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: to be about passion and about honor and about school
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: loyalty and about whatever, tradition and about, I don't know,
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: the school. And now it's about money. Athletes are playing
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: for money, and they don't like that. They don't like that. However,
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: the Supreme Court in 2021, in NCAA versus Alston, ruled
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: 9-0 that the NCAA pay limits to athletes violated antitrust law.
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: The schools lost in court, and now they want Congress
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: to do it for them. So what Congress is doing
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: is they're exempting, they're passing a law that basically exempts
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: the NCAA from antitrust law. This is what Justice Brett
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: Kavanaugh wrote In 2021. Nowhere else in America can businesses
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: get away with agreeing not to pay their workers a
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: fair market rate on the theory that their product is
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: defined by not paying their workers a fair market rate.
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: That's right. These are amateurs. So I agree that universities
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: should pay their athletes a fair market wage. But I
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: want to get rid of antitrust. I want to get
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: rid of antitrust laws. Not exempt schools from antitrust laws.
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: Why if we exempt schools, why can't we exempt other businesses?
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: And how does Congress get to define, I don't know, 21.6
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: million athletic departments? Where does that come from? Where does
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: that number come from? More central planning. I mean, exempt
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: them from antitrust laws and then see what happens. That's
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: the way I would do it. Maybe they'll all collude
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: and underpay the athletes. Maybe some schools will cheat. Maybe
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: now that it's official not no antitrust laws, who knows
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: what will happen, what will evolve. Make it a market.
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: I mean, Ted Cruz really. I'm disappointed. This is just
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: the government trying to manipulate a market in the name
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: of tradition without even knowing what the manipulation is actually
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: going to result in. I mean, a coach can get
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: $ 91 million. The stadium can get $ 875 million. But the
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: United States Senate passes by 77 to 22. A wage cap?
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: A wage ceiling on players? They get the salary cap. Why?
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: Because they're young? It's unfair. It's wrong. You know, Get
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: out of the way. I'm all worth getting rid of antitrust.
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: But then let's see how the market plays itself rather
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: than Congress deciding how much each player should. I mean,
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: maybe Congress should also run the offense or the defense.
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: It's really depressing, right? Today we talked about a diesel ban,
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: an eviction ban, a pay cap. Every one of these
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: rests on the same idea. There's only so much to
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: go around. It's a zero-sum world. And the government is best.
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: 46 years ago, today, two men put money on that idea.
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: Going back even further, in 1968, Stanford biologist Paul Ehrlich
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: published The Population Bomb. This is what he wrote. Quote,
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: the battle to feed all of humanity is over. In
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: the 1970s, hundreds of millions of people were starved to
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: death in spite of any crash program embarked upon now.
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: That was Pearl Ehrlich. Now, obviously, this never happened, but
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: he stuck with those beliefs, a belief in scarcity, a
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: belief in limits. Economists, and really one of the great
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: economists of all time, somebody everybody should read, Julian Simon,
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: thought the opposite. People aren't just mouths and stomachs. They're minds.
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: In Social Science Quarterly, he challenged anyone to bet that
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: raw materials would get more expensive. So Julian Simon said, abundance,
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: there'll be more raw materials in the future than there
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: are today, so prices will come down. Because human ingenuity
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: will find new ways to discover new resources. Ehrlich took
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: him up on the challenge. Here's the bet. This was
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: formalized on September 29, 1980. 46 years ago. It was
- 1:16:35Speaker 1: settled on September 29, 1990. 36 years ago. $ 1, 000. spread
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: across five metals, $ 200 each, chromium, copper, nickel, tin, tungsten.
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: Ehrlich and his colleagues chose the metals. So Ehrlich could
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: choose whatever metals he wanted. If inflation adjusted prices rose,
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: Simon paid. If they fell, Ehrlich paid. All five metal
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: prices fell in real terms. inflation-adjusted terms. Tin, for example,
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: went from 8.72 a pound to 3.88. Tungsten fell by
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: more than half. At the same time, world population grew
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: by more than 800 million people in one decade, the
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: largest one-decade increase in history. In October 1990, Ehrlich mailed
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: Simon a check. Simon offered to go again for $ 20, 000
- 1:17:50Speaker 1: on any resource, Ehrlich declined. I mean, if you look
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: at what today humanprogress.com has coined the Simon Abundance Index,
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: from 1980 to 2025, the population has grown 85%, while
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: resources became 536%. 536% more abundant measured in time prices.
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: I like time prices. I think this is the best
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: way to kind of measure prices. All 50-track commodities are
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: more abundant than in 1980. Now, what this means is
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: you track them based on how many hours of work
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: you have to spend to buy something. So, what took
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: an hour of work to buy in 1980 now takes
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: about 18 minutes. Wow. I mean, so our lives have
- 1:18:59Speaker 1: improved dramatically. Again, another story about life improving. the world
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: getting better, things getting cheaper, from a perspective of how
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: much time you spend working to gain them, they're cheaper.
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: And that's what counts. How much effort do I have
- 1:19:21Speaker 1: to put in to get my car, to get my home,
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: to get any one of these things? The hours of
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: work to put in to buy stuff. So we live...
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: in relative abundance, we live relatively wealthy lives. Everybody's depressed though.
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: Everybody thinks things are much, much worse than they used
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- 1:23:57Speaker 1: will you attend Ayn Rand Con Vienna in April? I
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: have already signed up for it, the Rand's Day Conference
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: at the end of January and the Summer Conference in Colorado. Excellent.
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: I will be at all three. I will be, at
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: least as of right now, I'm giving two talks and
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: maybe a couple of panels at the Ayn Rand Con
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: in Vienna in April, what is it, 16 to 18,
- 1:24:20Speaker 1: something like that. So if you're in Europe or if
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- 1:24:28Speaker 1: talk about art. There's some fantastic museums in Vienna. There's,
- 1:24:31Speaker 1: of course, a great opera and a great orchestra. Great place.
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: I will also be at the Rand's Day Conference. I'm
- 1:24:37Speaker 1: giving a talk on Israel's founding. And I will also
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: be at the Summer Conference in Colorado. So I'll see
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: you in all places. All right. Jennifer, if I buy
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: apples from Washington instead of Michigan, should I pay a
- 1:24:59Speaker 1: tariff to protect Washington jobs? No people would say because
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: Washington is America. But if I buy Ontario apples, oh, no, Canadian,
- 1:25:08Speaker 1: just tribal crap. Yeah, and the only reason we don't
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: have the Washington tribe versus the Michigan tribe is because
- 1:25:17Speaker 1: the founders basically– put in the Constitution protection against tariffs
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: between states. So we have, constitutionally, we can't protect the people,
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: you know, we can't protect the Michigan jobs or Washington
- 1:25:44Speaker 1: jobs from one another. That's constitutionally protected. Otherwise, today, Every
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: state would have tariff on every other state and our
- 1:25:54Speaker 1: tribes would just be smaller. If you're going to be tribal,
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: big tribes are better than small tribes. But it's still tribal.
- 1:26:03Speaker 1: It's still barbaric. It's still primitive. It's still collectivistic crap.
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: Lowest form of collectivism. Tribalism. All right, Andrew. Why do
- 1:26:16Speaker 1: intellectuals seem to like convincing the public that they are
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: poorer struggling and can't afford anything. Well, because then people
- 1:26:23Speaker 1: pay attention to them. And this is the basis for
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: radical cultural change, right? So if you want to bring
- 1:26:32Speaker 1: about socialism in America, tell them capitalism has failed and
- 1:26:36Speaker 1: show them capitalism has failed. It's kind of how Argentina is, right?
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: Argentina really did fail, and that made it open to
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: a melee. Well, if they can convince us America has failed,
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: and that the reason it's failed is capitalism, which is easy,
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: then we're open to either the fascist from the right
- 1:27:00Speaker 1: or the socialist alternative. So those intellectuals who want to
- 1:27:09Speaker 1: see radical status changes, want to smear capitalism, by convincing
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: people that they are poorer than they really are. Schasbach.
- 1:27:26Speaker 1: Fox Mulder, the X-Files, had a poster in his office
- 1:27:31Speaker 1: which said, quote, I want to believe. Would it have
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: been better if it said, I want to understand? Yes. Yes.
- 1:27:41Speaker 1: Very much so. I want to understand. I want to know.
- 1:27:49Speaker 1: Belief is, I want to believe in what? And believe
- 1:27:55Speaker 1: on what basis, right? So I want to understand would
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: it be much, much better. Anonymous, do you think your
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: show would do better if the YouTube's algorithm were different?
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: What are they doing right? What are they doing wrong?
- 1:28:14Speaker 1: What is the principle? that YouTube uses to determine if
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: a video is worthy of promotion? I really don't know.
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: I mean, suddenly we know certain things, like the more chats,
- 1:28:29Speaker 1: the more engagement, the more likes, the more shares. I
- 1:28:35Speaker 1: think one of the things that hurts me is I
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: don't think you guys share my videos much, particularly my
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: live videos because they're so long. You don't share them.
- 1:28:43Speaker 1: So sharing is a big, big deal. Liking. So this
- 1:28:48Speaker 1: is why press that like button right now before you forget. Comment. Chat.
- 1:28:56Speaker 1: All these things help. So that we know. engagement. Relevance, right?
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: Topic relevance. Now there I think I should be doing fine, right?
- 1:29:06Speaker 1: But then I think I get penalized for controversy and
- 1:29:10Speaker 1: for saying things that are controversial and a lot of
- 1:29:13Speaker 1: people disagree with. So I definitely think the algorithm impacts me.
- 1:29:19Speaker 1: But I also think what is impacting is the fact
- 1:29:21Speaker 1: that I say things that upset people and people don't
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: want to hear those things. So they might listen, but
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: they don't subscribe. They might listen, but they don't return.
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: So I don't have as much return traffic. So I
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: don't think it's just the algorithm. I think if the
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: algorithm was just the way it is, and more people
- 1:29:44Speaker 1: listened to me and said, oh, wow, that's really super interesting.
- 1:29:46Speaker 1: I want to hear more. I would have a lot
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: more subscribers. I would have a lot more views. My
- 1:29:51Speaker 1: views are pretty good. And your engagement, given the level
- 1:29:55Speaker 1: of subscribers and views, is pretty good. And I produce
- 1:29:58Speaker 1: a lot of content. A lot of content. There are
- 1:30:01Speaker 1: very few people on YouTube that produce as much content. Certainly,
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: I produce a huge amount of live content. But also,
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: every live show gets split up into videos, and then
- 1:30:15Speaker 1: we put out shorts. I produce a huge amount of content.
- 1:30:20Speaker 1: So it's either the algorithm or the actual content. actual
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: nature of the content that limits the number of people
- 1:30:32Speaker 1: who subscribe and the number of people who but look
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: there's no question the algorithm but but youtube has been
- 1:30:40Speaker 1: very nice to me i think because of you guys
- 1:30:43Speaker 1: because the super chats uh by the criteria the super
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: chats i do very very well for the size of
- 1:30:49Speaker 1: show we raised a lot of money on the show
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: relatively speaking Not today for some reason. So if any
- 1:30:57Speaker 1: of you want to change that, help me change that,
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: that would be great. You know, at least another 70
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: bucks in the next few minutes would be good to
- 1:31:09Speaker 1: just get some of our goals achieved by this month,
- 1:31:13Speaker 1: end of the month, maybe. So YouTube has been very
- 1:31:18Speaker 1: nice to me. So I don't think YouTube is purposefully,
- 1:31:22Speaker 1: you know, they're like, they're like, offer to help, and
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: there's a person I can call if I've got an
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: issue and problem. They don't offer this to all creatives.
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: They've been particularly nice to me. So I think if
- 1:31:37Speaker 1: it's the algorithm, it's in the nature of the algorithm.
- 1:31:40Speaker 1: It's not something guided and purposefully done by YouTubers. Uh,
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: Linda says in the 1970s and eighties and later, the
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: people hiring me were mostly women. So much of being oppressed. Yeah.
- 1:32:00Speaker 1: I mean, I, I think that makes a lot of sense. Um, there's,
- 1:32:06Speaker 1: I think very, there's still probably discrimination that goes on in,
- 1:32:10Speaker 1: in some places at some times, but it's night and
- 1:32:14Speaker 1: day as compared to what it was in the sixties. And, uh,
- 1:32:19Speaker 1: And I don't think it affects women significantly anymore. All right, Matt.
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: I have a narcissist like Trump in my family. It
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: stopped being about tariffs a while ago. It's about proving
- 1:32:38Speaker 1: he's right about tariffs and a possible task. Yeah, I
- 1:32:40Speaker 1: think that's right. I think that's right. He can't tolerate
- 1:32:45Speaker 1: the idea that he's wrong. And that people think that
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: he's wrong. Why are AI companies seeking antitrust exemptions? This
- 1:32:58Speaker 1: is from NM. Well, because they want to be able
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: to collude in slowing down the development of their models.
- 1:33:07Speaker 1: At least that's what they're saying. So the big AI
- 1:33:10Speaker 1: companies want to get together and determine criteria for how
- 1:33:15Speaker 1: to slow down the development of frontier models. These are
- 1:33:21Speaker 1: the models that might kill us all, right? They can't
- 1:33:27Speaker 1: do that today based on antitrust. They can't sit down,
- 1:33:31Speaker 1: you know, all the big AI companies can't just get
- 1:33:34Speaker 1: together and have a policy around how to release models.
- 1:33:38Speaker 1: That would trigger antitrust. So they want antitrust exemption. I
- 1:33:42Speaker 1: think they should get it. I think everybody should be
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: exempt from antitrust. The whole world. life would improve significantly. Yeah,
- 1:33:58Speaker 1: part of what will happen if they get together is
- 1:34:01Speaker 1: they'll find ways to exclude new entrants. So part of
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: what they want to do is capture the market. And,
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: you know, excluding them from antitrust would help them do that.
- 1:34:12Speaker 1: But I'm all for excluding from antitrust. You know, so... Again,
- 1:34:21Speaker 1: I think everybody should be excluded. Tamer, did you see
- 1:34:26Speaker 1: Cash grilled by Senator Kennedy on bestiality? Who's Cash? Watch
- 1:34:35Speaker 1: the clip. He also sold pills claiming to reverse COVID
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: vaccine effects. Cash Patel. I mean, the guy's a weirdo,
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: so it wouldn't surprise me. Bestiality. All right. And I've said,
- 1:34:55Speaker 1: should a few industries get it depending on how much
- 1:34:58Speaker 1: pull they have? I mean, look, one industry getting it
- 1:35:01Speaker 1: doesn't hurt another industry. So every industry who can get it,
- 1:35:05Speaker 1: good for them. I mean, give it to the NCAA,
- 1:35:11Speaker 1: give it to AI, and then slowly give it to everybody.
- 1:35:17Speaker 1: Better some than nobody. Andrew, is the problem in regard
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: to getting a publisher for you and Don's proposed book
- 1:35:28Speaker 1: on Christianity that it's too hot for publishers to handle?
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, that would be a
- 1:35:34Speaker 1: convenient reason, but I don't think that's the case. I
- 1:35:39Speaker 1: think they're actually eager to publish hot topics, at least
- 1:35:43Speaker 1: some of them are. I think they worry about Don
- 1:35:47Speaker 1: and my credibility regarding this topic. Neither of us are
- 1:35:53Speaker 1: historians or theologians or philosophers. And, you know, one of
- 1:36:00Speaker 1: them said, you know, if they were writing a book
- 1:36:02Speaker 1: on economics like their previous books, we'd publish that. But
- 1:36:06Speaker 1: we're not sure where the audience is given who they are.
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: So it's more about me and Don and the topic than...
- 1:36:21Speaker 1: than the topic itself. I think. I can't prove that,
- 1:36:26Speaker 1: but I think. Anyway, I haven't given up complete hope,
- 1:36:33Speaker 1: but my agent stopped answering emails, so who knows. All right.
- 1:36:40Speaker 1: We might self-publish. We're still trying to figure out exactly
- 1:36:43Speaker 1: what we'll do. Self-publishing has virtues and it also has problems.
- 1:36:50Speaker 1: All right. Thank you. Thanks to all the Super Chatters.
- 1:36:53Speaker 1: Really appreciate the support. I will see you guys on Friday. Friday.
- 1:37:02Speaker 1: So we will start a new month on Friday. And yeah,
- 1:37:06Speaker 1: I'll see you guys then. Bye, everybody.