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One Piece, 385-387 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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This is an unspoiled network podcast. This is spoil Me, covering One Piece
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episodes three eighty five, three eighty six, and three eighty seven. Halfway
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across the Grand Line Arrival at the Red Line and he hates the One Piece
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crew, Iron Mask Duval makes his appearance, and three the fated Reunion Save
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the Captive Fishman. In these episodes, we meet a mermaid and although she
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does have a distinctly different vibe than what I expected, it's okate because she's
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accompanied by her friend slash Teacher, a starfish with a Rastafarian hat on,
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so you know, sure. Welcome to spoil Me. Welcome to the show
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everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you very much too. I believe it's
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Florian that commissioned this episode. Thank you Florian, and Florian is here in
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the chat listening to me whine and complain, and I appreciate you very much
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Florian for bearing with me on that this trio of episodes. First of all,
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we're on a new season, so to speak. This show doesn't really
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do like traditional seasons in that way, but according to the dropdown menus on
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here and on Hulu, it's a new season. And I know that there
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were some filler episodes before this one. I had been messaging with Florian and
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he said that they were some of his favorites. But I fully plan on
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watching them, like right after he and I talked about it, and then
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things did not go to plan, as is so often the case, so
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I haven't gotten a chance to see them yet. But I did see that
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our slow, slow Friend returns, and I'm definitely gonna go back and watch
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those. I have to. I have to watch those. And there was
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another chunk of filler episodes. I almost called them spoiler episodes ways back at
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this point, I believe before the thriller bark arc even began. So I'm
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planning on doing a day where I go back and just like let those roll.
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But these we start off in the like there's an episode that's really a
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lot less happens until the very very end. Most of what we get at
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the first half of the episode is everybody thinking about the red line and what
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it meant to them and what it was like to cross it. And we
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get a little bit of information about everybody else's situations as well, like we
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find out about the way that Frankie goes over it, where I think he
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says that he was a baby, but I'm just gonna like start the episode
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off. And the thing that I wanted to mention as well. I don't
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know how many of y'all have listened to the episode, but I covered the
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one piece movie that I guess is agreed to be like one of the better
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ones, which is Baron Omatsuri and the Secret Island. And there is a
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moment in this episode where there are these like see snake shaped water currents.
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It's so strange, but they really really reminded me of the quote flower from
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baron Omatsuri's Secret Island, and I was just like, I don't need this
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imagery again right away. It was disturbing enough in that movie, I'll want
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to do this again. And thankfully it's it's not that similar, and of
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course the animation style is also pretty different, which helps keep it from being
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so unnerving looking, but it just evoked a really similar like vibe for a
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moment, and I was just like, no, we're not back here again,
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are we. So we have another moment yet again at the start of
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this episode, with Sanji imagining what a mermaid would look like, and of
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course the way he's imagining her is like pretty traditional in the way that we
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have seen them. She's got a purple tail, she's got a couple of
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seashell cups for her bra there's no straps or anything, they just like hold
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on and they are yellow. And she has giant ease and some sort of
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like you know, decorative necklace. And then she's got long wavy blonde hair
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down to her waist, and she's got a bracelet and earrings on, like
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she's really really decked out, right. But once we actually meet a mermaid
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here, and it's not the first mermaid we've ever met, but she is
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still very cute, but just an extremely different sort of energy to her design.
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And I kind of liked that that she manages to be like still like
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extremely cute, but she looks more like a normal human girl and not so
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like otherworldly glamorous or anything. She's even got like a T shirt on instead
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of you know, the seashell cups. And I'm wondering if that's like on
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purpose, if there is something specific that like Oda is trying to do with
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her, or if there's We're going to meet others and it's going to turn
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out that they all dress a similar way, or don't you know the guy
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that she's with, this will Starfish dude is apparently like a fashion designer or
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want to be, so maybe it's to do with that. But anyway,
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so all of our friends are at this point sitting on the railing of the
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ship and they're trying to fish because Lufy, as usual, is extremely hungry,
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and they see this massive school of fish that's like heading straight for them,
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and Nami is watching it and she's sort of like, I know this
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is supposed to be good, look but something about this just feels really really
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off to me. And the boat passes right over them, but none of
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the fish try and take a bite, or it seems more like they're fleeing
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than they are just swimming purposelessly. And then Nami looks up at the clouds
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and she sees these like really dark and she's you're kidding me, And I
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loved this piece of dialogue a lot us Up looks at her and says,
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don't just make a scary face and say foreboding things like that. Thank you
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us up hard agree like just the whole you're kidding me, without telling anybody
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else what's going on, ma'am, this isn't a Western recorded in nineteen sixty.
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Get to tell them what's happening for crying out loud. So all of
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a sudden, you see this like whirlpool develop and the camera pulls back and
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there's a bunch of them, and she says it's a sea snake current,
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to which Chopper says, okay, but what's that? And then all of
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a sudden, all of these sort of tentacle looking like spire of water begin
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to come up out of the surface of the ocean like they are cyclones almost,
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and it's I think that this is like actually something that can occur,
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not in not to this degree. You know, there's a scene at one
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point where we're looking at the ship from far away and they're surrounded by what
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looks like at least fifty of these And I don't mean quite like that,
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but I think that a ce spout, if I'm not mistaken, is what
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they're called. And it's when there's like kind of a combo of a wind
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and water current and it causes it to become airborne like this, and it's
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sort of like a visible tornado. So yeah, they're all looking at this
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and the of course instinct that they all have is like, okay, we
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can just fight this, and you know, at first, Sanji or a
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moment, it's just like I'll steer away from them, but he can't get
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the wheel to budge, which makes sense because these are extremely powerful currents.
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So the first one to jump in as usual is Zoro and he slices one
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of them. I do enjoy the sort of delayed reaction where he slices.
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He lands on the ship, there's a beat, and then all of a
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sudden, water powers all over him. Frankie's using like his shields and stuff,
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and there's all kinds of little attempts that they make to chop them in
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half and get cut them off of the pass. I want to say,
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but it's such a on the nose pun that I sort of resisted it.
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But you know what, I'm just going to lean into it, and for
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a moment it's sort of like, okay, yeah, we can defend ourselves
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against these things. While they are very big and scary, they are not
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living and so they don't come after us with the same like purposefulness or tactic
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that a live creature that's a predator would use. But as soon as they
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start to think, Okay, we're in the clear, we can get through
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this, Nami starts looking ahead because what Frankie proposes is using that ability of
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the ship to fly ahead, and I think that it's a maximum of one
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mile is as far as they can go if they go airborne. And when
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Nami tries to like foresee if that's going to be enough to get them in
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the clear, she sees it is not. That they are in the midst
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of this and there is nothing to be done. And it's honestly, like,
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I really enjoyed this part, just because we have met up with so
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many creatures, and we have met with so many bad guys that they're just
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being a sort of like naturally occurring phenomenon that they have to deal with.
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I really enjoyed this, you know, And it sort of reminds me a
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little bit of the Red Line and the fact that this is like a bizarre
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waterfall that they have to climb up and over. Like as far as I
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recall, the Red Line wasn't built by human beings. That's just a naturally
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occurring structure, if I'm remembering right. So they all start to panic,
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basically because Nami is just like there's no escape, and Brooke says, I'm
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going to go ahead and play some music and you guys can all sing along,
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and he starts to and all of a sudden, there's this huge like
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shove and they get thrown into the air by one of these and then the
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ship begins to fall. Chopper falls off the side, and Robin, using
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her like ability to make a bunch of arms inter linked, manages to catch
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him before he falls. You guys, I hated watching Chopper fall. I
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know he's going to be fine. I do not anticipate ever there being a
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moment where Chopper is not okay permanently, but it's just that free fall and
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he's so little, you know, and everybody else is like on the ship
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and fine. I don't know. I also wanted to mention here really really
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quick that we don't have like a full on change of costume for absolutely everybody,
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but we've definitely got some new vibes for a few of our friends.
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So Chopper is still in red shorts. I can't remember if his are the
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like he's usually only in shorts if I remember correctly, So I don't think
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that's really changed. But we have an outfit for Nico Robin and I don't
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know. I was about to her Nikki and I, you guys know,
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I don't know what happens with me. But her name just like doesn't want
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to wedge itself in my brain. And I don't know why that is.
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But she is wearing this sort of I want to call it almost a Saturday
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night fever vibe because it's a very popped collar and it's sleeveless and v neck,
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but it's got a very disco sort of look to it, and it's
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that's the top. And then she's got a pair of like hip hugger bell
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bottoms that are the same color, with a very low slung belt and what
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looks like a belly chain as well. So you could really take your pick
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here on whether or not this is straight up disco or if this is a
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sort of like disco referenced nineties outfit. Actually, Rankie is wearing a purple
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shirt with I with a pattern all over it that I don't know if those
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are supposed to be gears or if they're supposed to be anything. In particular,
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Nami's outfit I believe is different, so or it's got a black,
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a red and white striped shirt. Sangie's got a green shirt with a blue
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and white striped tie. Lufy's got a blue vest. I think his vest
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had been red, And you know, I'm not sure whether or not.
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There's always a costume change every single season for everybody, but Nami has and
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it was hard for me to catch it because for a lot of this episode,
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we're pretty up close on people, you know what I mean, Like
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she I don't think it really sank in for me how different her costume was
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until a little bit later. But there is a point at which she's in
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an orange flowered top and a beat a yellow beaded necklace, and all of
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our friends are looking over and they see the red line and are thinking back
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to the moments where they decided to go to the Grand Line and team up
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together and what their goals were going to be, and it's just a sort
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of flashback moment, and I do enjoy that everybody is sort of reminiscing about,
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like how much they've grown and how even though technically not that much time
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it has passed, it just feels like it's been ages. And that's so
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like time is such a bizarre thing, because there will be moments where you're
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like, wow, was that only five years ago? That feels like and
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you guys know what I'm talking about, especially the pandemic I think fucked up
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our perspective of time. So there would be like a news cycle that would
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happen of a particular story, and then like three weeks later, somebody would
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be like, hey, do you guys all remember like a year ago when
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such and such happened? Except that was literally four weeks ago, and that
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it was very like helpful to me to see that other people were experiencing the
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same thing, because I can being like, how how can it simultaneously feel
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like no time has passed but also like an eternity has passed? How does
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that work? And it all depends too on like how much has really dramatically
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changed in that time and how many things have been like a real slow progression
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of change but not major ones. And that's sort of what's crept up on
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me here. Like I moved to Texas. This year will be nine years
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and I do not feel those nine years because I I pretty much am doing
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a lot of the same things as I did when I first moved here.
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I'm still recording a ton. I'm still with Owen and living in the same
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house. And even though we got married, and even though you know,
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in terms of like the way we live a lot of things have changed,
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there hasn't really been anything like truly substantial that has been a sea change for
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either of us. I wouldn't say so. Whenever I realized that I'm going
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on a decade, you know, I have to stop and be like,
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what the fuck because I do not feel it at all. And then there
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are times where somebody's like, oh, do you remember such and such than
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we did that like last year, And I'm like, last year that was
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like four years ago, wasn't it. Oh? Gus is in a chat
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and says, yes, it's a criminal in parentheses Crimin brand T shirt that
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pop Pug is the designer of pop Ug. I hope I'm saying that right.
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In the manga, it's a whole sequence of different weird weather phenomena.
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At one point it even snows cotton candy. Oh, I wish we'd gotten
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that. That sounds really fun, especially because Chopper loves cotton candy so much
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because it's on his post art. Gust does he have a moment in the
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manga where he's eating the cotton candy and like really happy and excited because you
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know, I want to see that. Demian says the starfish's name is Papagoo.
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I really don't like it. I might be saying it wrong, and
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that's why I don't like it, but I don't like it, So just
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letting you all know that. So oh right, And then Nammy is like
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in a rainslicker at one point, like a pink ringslicker. So yeah,
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they all just like reminisce here, and we have some flashbacks with Brooke as
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well. And I had thought, you guys, and I guess it's just
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supposed to be that we're at like a different spot on the Red Line.
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But isn't this where they met Laboon. Isn't he like at the Red Line?
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I thought this was where they met him? Or are they just not
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near like the sort of entrance exit. It's just a really long wall,
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right, so maybe it's just a different spot on it. And I was
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really surprised to find out that they are looking for Fishman Island before they try
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and go back to Laboon. I was certain we were doing Laboon first,
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even though they talked in the last episode about going to Fishman Island. I
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was sort of assuming that this was going to be the first stop. So
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I am not understanding like the setup of the universe here as is usual,
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because the way this map is doesn't really make sense for me. You know,
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I know that there's like a plan in place, that Oda has a
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map that he's working from, but every time that I that you guys,
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like, show me the map, my brain fails to comprehend it because it's
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just so wacky. Oh, Gus says, there an entire hemisphere away from
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Laboon. Demian says, the red line is a circle around the globe there
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at the exact opposite side of Laboon. Florian says, there's a short animation
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somewhere in this episode that shows it good I think the world and where Laboon
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is. Oh, how did I miss that? But anyway, so yeah,
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they're all realizing that the way that this natural phenomenon is happening is very
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similar to the way the knock up Stream worked, and that they were terrified
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of that, but it ended up being okay. It's still like at the
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time they were sort of thinking maybe we're gonna die and then they want up
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in this like cool magical land with clouds for furniture, and they're all basically
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gritting their teeth and going, if we were able to survive that, we
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can survive this. And Frankie does his couda burst as they like crest the
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top of one of these like huge cyclones is what I'm going to keep calling
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them sea snakes, I guess, And they managed to propel themselves up and
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out away from them into the air. Everybody is looking so happy and relieved
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about this, except for predictably us Up and Chopper, who are utterly terrified,
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and for good reason. There's like a temptation to see this ship as
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being like an airplane, but there's something holding it up. It's just been
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flung, you know. It's just a straight up like sling shot basically,
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you know. So, yeah, they this whole moment. Maybe this is
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a spot where it's because Nami is talking about how it feels sort of nostalgic,
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and I'm getting a little bit choked up. I thought for sure that
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Sangi was going to chime in there and say something or try and comfort her,
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but he just lights a cigarette. Us Up himself is crying a lot,
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and Zoro is the one who says, I feel like we've really grown
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up. Oh here it is. I see the graphic now. Wow.
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Okay, it's sort of odd the way it's set up, the twin capes
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where we met Labuner connected to the red line on the other side of the
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world. Okay, I got you. I I like must have blinked and
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missed that because it's a pretty quick little animation, you know. Also during
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this episode was when I was interrupted with a neighbor at the door with my
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two dogs. So I've both gotten out. So this is the moment where
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everybody is really feeling like, all right, we made it out, and
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shit's good. We have a little bit of downtime with everybody doing the things
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that they enjoy, which you guys know that I always always want more of
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this. Most of what we've got here is Zoro lifting I want to say
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lifting weights. He's lifting a weight, a weight that's like about the size
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of two cars connected by a pole. He is lifting it with one arm,
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and then he flips onto his hands in a handstand and puts the bar
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on his feet and begins to do like push ups with the bar balanced above
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his head, which is the sort of thing that while I know this is
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an exaggeration in a cartoon, I have seen people actually do stunts like this,
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and I just how are we the same species? Do you ever have
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that where you just look at somebody and you're just saying, nah, nah,
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we're not made out of the same stuff. You got muscles in places,
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and people tell me I have those same muscles. I don't think so.
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I think that's just a mistake. You've definitely got some extras like stuffed
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in there for sure, and also probably an extra lung and also probably like
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an entirely different type of metabolism, because there's just no way. And I
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know that's not strictly true, but it's like a little bit true. Once
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you get to know some of how these people's bodies work, it's like no,
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no, they are working at like a particular Optimi level for whatever reason.
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And so this, the moment where he does this, was just making
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me think of a couple of things that I'll be scrolling Instagram and all of
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a sudden I'll see somebody doing something truly wild, and I'm just like,
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while I give up, Okay, good to know that these superhuman beings are
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out there, and I guess I'll just I would love now that I think
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about this in these terms, and like a comic or a skit about ordinary
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people who are used to being like really strong in their community, being like
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tough, and then they find out that there are like, you know,
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Marvel superheroes, and the sort of identity crisis that they have because they're no
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longer the strongest person, or because they realize that no matter how hard they
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work, they're just never going to be able to do the things that these
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people can do, and that that would be like a really tough thing to
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deal with because so much of the time it's when we see like those kind
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the kinds of characters that are like just sort of I don't know, the
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flunkeys. I guess in stories, there's a lot of people who are meant
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to be helping out villains and stuff that they themselves don't have any kinds of
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superpowers, And I'm sort of like, maybe they just teamed up with the
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villain because they realized that they are completely vulnerable and don't really have any way
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to protect themselves, so they may as well align with somebody who can have
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their back, let's see, Gus says. I think Brooke also explains in
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these episodes or last time that they aren't going straight back to Laboon because their
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promise was that they would go all the way around the world and come back
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over the grant the red line from the front to meet Laboon again. Oh
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okay, I didn't remember that, but I believe you. But I just,
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yeah, I didn't remember that at all. But forgive me, guys.
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Like I was talking about this before recording, but it has been a
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very like high stress week a couple days, I don't know, decade whatever,
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and I have been feeling like I'm not retaining things the way I normally
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do. That's not to say I don't miss stuff on the regular, but
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I usually am a little bit better than I feel like i've been today.
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So we also get the flashbacks to Zoro getting all of that pain inflicted on
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him by Kuma, and he is really motivated by the fact that he feels
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he is still too weak and could potentially fail his crew. Which I wouldn't
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say that you were two weak, sir, because you got that deal in
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the first place and managed to get everybody else off scot free. Somehow,
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although I still think Kuma was like he was doing something shady, and also,
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you withstood all of that pain and afterward you were okay, Like,
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granted you did pass out for a bit, but you came out the other
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side. It didn't kill you, and that's fully what he expected it to
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do. So to me being like I'm too weak and I'm going to let
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down my crew, I'm like, you showed how strong you were and Loki
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saved everybody, I'm drawn the opposite conclusion from you, sir. But anyway,
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so our friends decide that at this point they are going to start looking
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for the Fishman Island, which is apparently like underwater, and so some of
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them get onto the little submarine, which I had said I was excited about
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seeing in the the Filler episodes because it was mentioned, but I didn't expect
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it to just come up in the regular episode. So there's a moment and
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I have to address it where Brooke asks Nami again what kind of panties she's
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wearing. Oh, guys, I know that it's too late, it's done,
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and that this little running joke is gonna be a thing I just wish
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so much. It warn't I just wish we could just delete this part,
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you know, like make it literally anything else. You know what I would
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do, were I to be somebody who came in and just sort of went
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over some things that were really problematic, is I would make Brooke, because
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he is obsessed with his afro and it's such a part of his identity.
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I would make him be really like curious how Nami maintains her hair and asking
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her what products she uses and stuff all the time, and like during really
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inopportune moments, being like, you know, I saw this like a deep
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conditioners somewhere, but you had to keep it warm, And I don't know
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if I have the setup to do that. Have you ever tried this,
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like just during you know, a battle where it's not really appropriate to be
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talking about hair care. But I feel like you could do something where he
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has a particular like connection to Nami or not connection, but like she's the
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primary person he's talking to and is going to with this little, you know,
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repetitive joke and not have it be just straight up sexual harassment. So
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let's just pretend from now on, every time that he does one of these
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jokes that he's just doing a little like deep conditioner hair care joke. Can
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you recommend a hot curling iron or something? I don't know. So we
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go down into the water and it supposedly got a max depth of like five
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thousand meters, but Brooke, at one point it starts to shake, and
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he's like, that doesn't seem right, And then he looks and sees like,
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I think that we actually passed the five thousand meters already. So we're
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in a bad place. This is no good. There's water pressure and it's
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going to crack this submarine like a tin can. Hey, everybody, those
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of you listening far into the future may not feel this as acutely, but
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I'm recording this. I think three days after they found the pieces of the
31:55
submersible the titan that went down to see the Titanic. They never found bodies
32:00
because likely there aren't any. They probably just got completely like pulverized into paste
32:07
from the pressure and basically like you know, became powder, wet, wet
32:15
powder. But all I could think about was that in this scene, y'all,
32:21
I did not need this particular like shaking. Oh, we went too
32:27
deep. It's more than this sub can handle. After that whole thing and
32:35
for those of you who want to hear my Reshawn's thoughts about that debacle,
32:42
we recorded an unsobered episode where we basically talked about why billionaires are evil,
32:50
like there's no possible way to be a billionaire without being an inherently bad person,
32:57
and thus why we were not particularly sorry or able to work up much
33:04
empathy for the folks on board because they got killed due to traveling in a
33:13
vehicle that was like built to skirt around all kinds of regulations, and rich
33:22
folks are the ones that are always pushing for deregulation, but normally it's only
33:25
the poor people who get to suffer the consequences of that. So there's something
33:30
that feels extremely appropriate for a change about some rich folks getting bitten in the
33:37
ass by their own desire to just like circumvent the law, and also the
33:44
fact that these assholes wanted to do what they wanted to do without oversight,
33:52
so they purposely try to go into international waters to make it possible to avoid
34:00
certain laws and regulations. But then once the submersible was lost, one of
34:09
the I can't it's not the CEO because he's the one who died, but
34:14
there's one of the guys who was in charge who basically said, any government
34:19
that refuses to help us with the effort of finding them, I am going
34:24
to let all the public know that you refuse to help, which is really
34:30
a hell of a flex because you straight up did this so that you were
34:35
not under the jurisdiction of these countries, and now you're like, you better
34:40
fucking help because why what just the audacity of these people. I truly it's
34:49
beyond belief that anyway, So you guys, I'm sorry, but I had
34:54
to mention it, you know, I had to mention it. So at
34:59
this point, this creature comes up and looks like it's going to bite them.
35:01
He's got a very rabbity vibe. And it's a bizarre thing because a
35:07
rabbit underwater, it's just not something you're used to seeing. He's got fur,
35:12
for sure, and it's like fur sure, and also the long years
35:17
and everything, and I was just sort of like, what is this doing
35:22
down here? What even? And we wind up seeing it again later and
35:28
everybody's treating it like a joke, like, oh woo, it's about to
35:30
eat us. Meanwhile, up on deck, everybody is like, what is
35:36
this like good or bad? Should we go in and rescue them? I'm
35:39
not even sure what we should be doing. And they all get very distracted
35:45
by Sanji prancing out with a pear tart, and he's so excited about presenting
35:54
this to all of them that they have him animated with these like waving legs.
36:00
Love these, I love these weird animations of him. But yeah,
36:04
they're all delighted having their pear tarts, and I was just like, oh,
36:07
that sounds so good, you guys. If I were extremely wealthy,
36:17
I after obviously helping my friends, and I would probably keep on retainer a
36:25
chef to do like meal prep for me, maybe once a week, so
36:30
that I didn't have to do it. And one of the things I would
36:34
have them do was like a particularly intricate pastry dessert, the kind of thing
36:42
that like, you can't really get it out in Texas. You have to
36:46
make it yourself. And if you're going to make it yourself, it's a
36:50
ball breaker. So because there's so many things that I know how to make
36:54
them, and I even enjoy making them, but they take specialized equipment or
37:01
space and it's just not going to happen in my little kitchen. So this
37:07
tart just made me sort of go, oh man, they've really got a
37:10
good on this ship with him as a cook, Like I feel this way
37:15
already with everything that he makes a savory, but when he dances out here
37:20
with this lovely tart that's looking so like neatly put together, I was so
37:24
jealous. So this is when our friend's surface and they get out of the
37:32
sub and they're just like, oh, yeah, that was really fun.
37:36
And I was thinking, like, oh, they're back because they found it,
37:40
but they did not find it, And Nami is getting really frustrated because
37:45
she's got that paper that's supposed to help her, but it's just really difficult
37:51
to know how to use it when they are in like three dement four dimensions
37:57
here. I guess because it's pointing downward, but as far as like how
38:02
straight down to go, and it's just a really difficult thing to guess and
38:07
to know. As they're talking about this, the monster comes up out of
38:13
the water, looking like the fucking rabbit from Donnie Darko, and it's got
38:17
a like a rabbit front half, but it's got a fish tail. It's
38:23
like like a rabbit. Mermaid and Lufy punches it with gum gum rifle and
38:34
as it falls, I really do enjoy this. Oo's up and Chopper are
38:40
both going man After fighting Oars, nothing really seems that big anymore, Like,
38:47
I mean, it's big, but it just doesn't feel the same.
38:51
I feel like this would have been a lot scarier before we met Oars.
38:55
And then all of a sudden, you see these two shadows fly out of
39:00
his mouth and plummeting towards the deck of the ship. Are a starfish in
39:08
a hat. So he's got a real weird silhouette and a mermaid. And
39:15
she lands directly on top of Sanjie, who has of course rushed out to
39:19
catch her unsuccessfully, And I was sort of wondering if Sanjie was going to
39:24
be disappointed because she doesn't quite look like what he was anticipating. But I
39:30
should have known better, because Sanjie really is kind of an equal opportunity pervert.
39:36
Like in terms of obviously when it comes to Kokoo, the incessant fat
39:43
jokes are very tiresome, you guys, So I'm just going to skate right
39:46
past that. But in terms of like if a girl is cute, it
39:52
is of no consequence to him what color her hair is, how long her
39:58
hair is, and they all in this universe the exact same face, so
40:00
that's kind of not an issue at all. But yeah, so this mermaid,
40:09
she's got the little T shirt on, she's got green hair that spiked
40:14
out, she's wearing this little backpack that looks like something straight out of Animal
40:17
Crossing to me, and she's a little bit freaked out to see them all,
40:22
but she's extremely cheery and like a second later, is just going,
40:27
oh, I'm so sorry. I'm really glad to meet you all. That's
40:30
like the twentieth time that I almost have been eaten by a sea king.
40:32
And I'm getting really tired of this and I should pay you back. So
40:37
how about some octopus fritters? And this begins an ongoing thing with Lufy where
40:49
and I honestly relate to him so much with this where she mentions the octopus
40:59
fritter heat and that just becomes the driving force of absolutely everything that he does
41:07
for the next three episodes. And I, y'all, I think this is
41:16
one of those things that like really made me realize what a food addict I
41:22
am. And I'm chasing this dragon. When it comes to food, where
41:28
I'm looking for, like the kind of good feeling that I would get when
41:30
I ate certain things. It's not about the food itself. It's about trying
41:34
to like recapture a moment. But I am also really really impressionable. So
41:40
if I'm watching television and somebody shows me like a picture of a gooey piece
41:46
of pizza that's being pulled out of a whole pie with the cheese like drooping,
41:52
I will not be able to stop thinking about pizza for at least a
41:58
couple of hours. I can sometimes shake it and I can move on with
42:01
my life, or I can completely lose the plot and be like, well,
42:09
it's pizza time. It's pizza time. Pizza time is now we're doing
42:12
pizza. And that could be with anything. Like you there's a and this
42:20
never works on me because I literally get a soda every time I go to
42:22
the movies. But there's a point in when you're at a lot of movie
42:27
theaters well where they'll play the sound of ice cubes hitting a glass and then
42:32
just the sound of like the carbonation as the sodas poured into the glass,
42:38
and there's no music, there's no nothing. It's just meant to evoke the
42:44
feeling of the soda. And I have always just been so impressed with Like,
42:47
if I didn't have a soda already, I absolutely would go get one.
42:52
It would happen, It just would. So the fact that he grows
42:53
so obsessed with this, I was just like, nah, I get it,
42:57
I really do, you know, especially because it seems like it's a
43:00
specialty of theirs, which means that they're probably extra good. Although I will
43:05
say it is really weird that the octopus man is selling octopus fritters because it
43:08
feels like that is not something that he would want to cook. But that's
43:14
fine, and I appreciate all of them standing around and just kind of being
43:22
like, what is this girl's deal? And Brooke comes forward and asks her
43:31
if she would be so kind as to lend him some money. I don't
43:37
know what the deal is here. I thought that there was going to be
43:39
another panty s joke, but because she wouldn't wear panties because she's got a
43:44
fish bottom, I was sort of thinking that was going to be the punchline
43:47
is that, of course she doesn't, you know. Lucy asks her the
43:51
same question about pooping, and she is like trying, She's trying to answer
43:59
him and say that she does, but Sanji doesn't want to hear it.
44:02
And then we slow pan over to her friend, the starfish, who seems
44:09
very sad to not be included in the conversation, and Lufy drags him over
44:16
and is like, is this a talking glove and he says. She says,
44:22
he's my pet and a starfish. He's also my teacher and he's got
44:30
the wildest voice. You guys, this starfish. When he is talked to
44:37
a little bit later by Lufy, who's like, how did you learn how
44:39
to talk, he says, basically, I grew up thinking I was human,
44:45
and by the time I realized I was just a starfish, I had
44:50
learned how to talk to which Lufy says, wow, I didn't know talking
44:54
worked like that, which is honestly one of the best. It's not just
45:00
the line itself, it's the way it's delivered, like totally innocently. That
45:06
made me. Lol. I really that bit got me good. I don't
45:09
know why. And he sings a song and you guys, it really is
45:20
like I'm not sure whether or not it's supposed to be that he's really bad
45:27
at this. I am assuming it is because brookes thing whenever he was playing
45:31
music was so good. And I don't know if maybe it's just they didn't
45:37
work as hard with the translation because they didn't feel like it mattered or what.
45:42
But he is terrible and he's just like singing this little introduction for himself
45:49
and it's just a real weird moment. And I kind of expected everybody to
45:53
just be like, Okay, I guess, dude, but basically they all
45:59
just get distracted and don't pay attention to him. I thought they were going
46:04
to actively mock him, and it's more that they just move on, and
46:07
I'm just look, guys, I understand that we can have like a joke
46:15
about somebody being a bad musician, and that's fine, but I'm somebody who
46:20
has a really hard time with watching people sing or musical numbers when they feel
46:27
like really forced anyway, So I am just going to cross my fingers and
46:31
hope that it's not going to be a running gag that we have to deal
46:39
with a bunch, because I felt like it was supposed to be a lot
46:43
funnier than it was. So anyway, we find out in the course of
46:51
things, she has a transponder snail, and she's talking to somebody named and
47:00
everybody is sort of vaguely like that name is familiar. But the person Hatchie's
47:07
supposed to own this transponder snail and be the one that answers, but the
47:10
guy who picks up is not him and is gloating over the fact that,
47:19
like, we were planning to sell your friend. If you want to save
47:22
him, you'd better hurry. And they're trying to lure her in. I
47:25
thought when we go to the scene a little bit later and they're like,
47:30
your plan worked exactly as possible. She's coming to us. I thought that
47:35
this was an attempt to lure the straw Hats as well. I thought they
47:37
already knew that she was with them, which of course they don't. I
47:42
don't know why I would think that, but they find out pretty quickly.
47:47
So yeah, basically what happens here is Nami volunteers everybody's services in helping her
47:54
friend in in pain mint for this girl, showing them where Fishman Island is,
48:05
which wouldn't be a hardship for her since that's likely where she would be
48:07
heading anyway, and they come to this agreement. But everybody behind her is
48:15
sort of mad at the fact that Nami is acting like she's their boss.
48:22
But I think she is their boss, So I think it's fine. If
48:29
you guys want to get somewhere and she's your navigator and she needs help,
48:34
that's about as good a deal as you're going to ask for, in my
48:37
opinion. So she is thrilled. It's like, okay, you guys are
48:43
gonna help me, say hatchie perfect, And she yells off the deck of
48:49
the ship and asks for help finding where they need to go from the fish,
48:55
which form a straight like arrow in the direction they need to go.
49:01
And it is a really fun little bit until the fish are like, oh,
49:07
something's going on, so sorry, we're gonna have to get back to
49:09
you. We can't finish this. Meanwhile, we go over to du Valls
49:16
Well Kingdom. I guess on this C shaped island, and I don't know
49:22
if it's an actual island or if it's a ship in and of itself,
49:27
since we've seen islands that are actually ships. But his henchman, we've got
49:32
a dude who's like, he's so pretty that he looks like one of the
49:40
if those of you who have seen gravity falls, and if you haven't,
49:44
you really should. There is an ongoing joke about a couple of characters that
49:51
the little girl has a crush on fictional dudes like cartoon guys, but also
49:57
a boy band. And this dude looks like he walked straight out of that
50:04
joke. He almost gives me the vibe of like, what if the duck
50:08
lips fishman were a regular human, this is what he would look like,
50:14
you know. And it turns out that it's mermaids that fetch like the highest
50:22
price of all, so they're luring her in and that way they can sell
50:28
her and I don't know what that would be for, but I don't really
50:32
want to think about it. Hatchie is sitting here, really sad, tied
50:38
up, and once he hears that the straw Hats are here, begins to
50:45
freak out that not only are the straw Hats going to kick everybody else's ass,
50:52
but as soon as they see him, they're going to recognize him and
50:54
they are going to come at him for what happened on the island, which
51:00
they were not wrong. He was not wrong. Initially they were going to
51:05
do that, but eventually Nami is just like, you know what, let's
51:10
let bygones be bygones, which I do appreciate. So this guy Duval has
51:22
encountered Loofy before and considers Loofy to be the one who has ruined his life.
51:30
And I am very, very uncertain what who this is. A part
51:37
of me keeps thinking Crocodile. We get like a real creepy bulging eye at
51:43
one point because he's wearing this heavy metal, heavy metal, this metal mask
51:47
that covers up his face purposely to you know, give us a bit of
51:52
a shock. I'm sure once it's revealed who he is. But I kept
51:57
thinking about Crocodile and I couldn't remember if he was actually killed. That's the
52:02
thing with like the way the universe works is I kind of feel like nobody
52:07
ever actually dies, even when it looks like they died, you know,
52:10
I it's unclear, but I'm pretty sure. I mean it's not Buggy because
52:19
he The thing that keeps happening with Duval is that his accent keeps coming out.
52:27
And I only started watching the dub like you know, in the fifth
52:34
arc, fourth arc, if this character were dubbed with this accent, I
52:39
wouldn't know it, and I'm pretty sure that Buggy wasn't dubbed with a Southern
52:45
accent, although I'm feeling like I remember you guys saying that Crocodile was dubbed
52:50
with a weird accent, So maybe it is Crocodile. And I wouldn't be
52:54
mad if Crocodile came back as a villain because he was just so scary.
52:59
But this guy does also seem extremely huge, and I don't recommend, or
53:06
I don't recommend. I don't remember Crocodile being this gigantic. So I'm trying
53:14
to see, like he's got the bell bottom pants and boots that look like
53:21
Western boots. He's got a sort of harness across his chest. This is
53:30
like ringing vague bells, but like not enough, you know what I'm saying,
53:36
And a sort of looks almost to be like fur scarf draped around his
53:42
neck, with like a black leather jacket and these giant metal epaulettes. I
53:49
oh my god, you guys. I I keep thinking like, is it?
54:00
And then I kind of cut myself off. Well, I'm just gonna
54:05
really hold out hope that it's not. Don Creeg because anytime that you mentioned
54:09
metal epaulets, that's who I'm going to think of first. But don Creek,
54:16
as much as I remember, wasn't this big. Like, we never
54:21
really met guys this size until kind of later on in the story, right,
54:25
I feel like it wasn't until the grand line that we ran into dudes
54:30
who were basically three times the size of a regular man. I'm the only
54:37
exception that I can remember being like Arlong and his guys because they were a
54:40
fishmen and they weren't even human, so they got to be whatever the fock
54:44
size. So that's kind of where I'm running into problems here with like who
54:49
he could be, because I don't think Crocodile was this big either. I
54:54
genuinely don't know. He's wearing a helmet that that almost looks like it's like
55:02
medieval but not. It's the sort of thing that I feel like a character
55:07
in Road Warrior would wear, you know. But yeah, he is like
55:15
completely overwhelmed at the idea that the straw hats are here, and everybody gets
55:20
alarmed at the fact that his accent is starting to get stronger, because apparently
55:24
that's the sign that he is starting to completely lose his temper and folks around
55:30
him get hurt when he loses his temper. So he tells everybody to fucking
55:37
listen to him and be extremely careful with how they deal with these guys,
55:44
because if they fuck this up, he is never ever going to let them
55:50
forget it. I don't know if maybe this is somebody that's like from even
55:58
beyond where we saw in the show, like further into Lucy's past. I
56:04
don't know. So they set up this trap, and of course our friends
56:12
sailed right into it, but they mostly are aware of what the trap is,
56:16
even if Cammy and I can't remember that guy's name, the Starfish.
56:22
I'm just gonna calm Starfish. His voice, you guys, his voice actor.
56:27
It almost feels like he's trying to do like an Iago from a Laddin
56:30
kind of thing. It's not quite as it's not like an imitation of what's
56:37
his face, but there is a sort of like crassness to it. And
56:44
I just don't like him. I just don't like him, and we'll see
56:47
if he wins me over or what. So they sail in and Cammy is
56:57
basically like, oh my god, my friend is tied up and I want
57:01
to help him, and they all refuse to help because this guy did some
57:12
shit to them, which I'm really not mad at them about. And she
57:16
is so upset that they are just going to fucking abandon her after promising to
57:23
help, that she jumps into the water without any sort of plan at all.
57:31
I think that it's Usap who's like, oh, I'm sure she has
57:35
a plan, but guess what, they do not, And she jumps in
57:44
and immediately gets scooped up by a bunch of batties who were waiting under the
57:49
water. It's so embarrassing how completely immediate it is. So they're hoisting her
57:57
above their heads, and Hatchie is watching and really really upset. Sanjie starts
58:05
to step forward and is clearly like, I'm gonna do something about this.
58:08
But Nami is watching Hacchi and the way he's like freaking out and he is
58:15
pounding against the bars of his cage and seems genuinely determined, like I'm gonna
58:20
fucking save her if I have to beat myself to a pulp against the inside
58:23
of this cage to do it, And that seems to move her, and
58:28
she's like, all right, you know what, let's go ahead and save
58:30
him. He isn't all that bad. He isn't like the other ones.
58:36
And we did promise KM maybe we'd help, so let's go for it.
58:42
Of course, Sanjie is just delighted with this. With this move, he
58:49
starts doing one of those little dances where he's got he's spinning in place like
58:54
perfect pirouets, and Lufy says, if you say it's okay, it's okay.
59:01
He's got a weird bracelet around his arm and I don't know if that's
59:06
significant, guys, but I don't remember it. And when he turns around,
59:10
there's drool dripping out of his mouth and his eyes are octopus fritters,
59:15
which I'm really glad that's in the dialogue because I did not know what was
59:19
going on there for a minute. And this like the whole thing with this
59:29
dude. He's sort of sitting in the dark in shadow, and he's on
59:36
one of the transponder snails, and he's talking to the flying fish riders,
59:39
who are the ones that brought him the report about Lofy to begin with.
59:45
And these flying fish is a really neat design, like they're underwater for a
59:50
lot of it because they are they have like fish bowl headsets for oxygen and
59:57
whatnot. So like that combo with the fact that the flying fish are equipped
1:00:04
to sort of look like motorcycles, it's a very fun aesthetic that it took
1:00:09
me a little bit to really understand what they were doing, because initially I
1:00:14
was like, these guys look like a motorcycle gang, but I wasn't really
1:00:17
getting how that could be. And then once I really saw the flying fish
1:00:22
a little bit better, I was like, oh, I see, okay,
1:00:25
we're doing like they're a biker gang of the sea. And this is
1:00:32
when Lufy uses his rubber powers to scoop up Cammy and get her back on
1:00:39
his boat, and then he yells for Zoro to chop open the cage and
1:00:45
let Hocchie out. And Hacchi, for his part, I appreciated this despite
1:00:53
the fact that he is going to be saved by these people and he could
1:00:59
just keep his men well shut. I guess it is for his own best
1:01:01
interests as well, but he's just like, guys, there's still a trap,
1:01:05
you know, so just like be careful and as they are about to
1:01:12
like let him out of the cage, Duval says to his men, Okay,
1:01:16
now attack and we go back to the surface, and everybody is just
1:01:22
sort of, it feels like, standing around happy with their guard down.
1:01:25
It doesn't seem like anybody really understands the level of the fight that's about to
1:01:31
go down because they don't know that Duval has a personal grudge against them for
1:01:37
any particular reason. I think that's really what it is, you know.
1:01:44
So this is the moment where Hachi is yelling to all of them, guys,
1:01:51
you need to stand back, and MOPy just says, bring it,
1:01:57
you, dumb flying fish, and they're coming up underneath the sunny And meanwhile,
1:02:05
throughout all of this, Duval is just in some weird room by himself,
1:02:07
like gazing morosely at the tabletop. Not really you know what I mean.
1:02:14
He's just got a very strange energy here. Where as much as he's
1:02:17
like obviously brooding and enraged, he doesn't want to be any part of this
1:02:24
particular fight. He wants to deal with them they're once they got got,
1:02:31
but he doesn't want to be part of the takedown, which I think is
1:02:35
kind of interesting and makes me wonder is he tired of fighting? Is that
1:02:38
what it is. He keeps talking about how if he takes out Lufy he'll
1:02:43
get his life back, and I really want to know what that even means.
1:02:49
So oh Gus says it's the bracelet Nami let him have from the Treasure
1:02:55
and thriller bark Okay, cool, thank you, So yeah, I'm going
1:03:00
to wrap this one up. But I really did like these these episodes.
1:03:05
It was a very unexpected direction that we went in. But I also do
1:03:09
like when there's like a character that had been an enemy that kind of turns
1:03:13
a corner. So I'm interested in that for Hatchey. We'll see how he
1:03:15
does. All right, guys, thank you again so much for hanging out.
1:03:20
Thank you to Florian for commissioning this. Until next time to loom Motherfucker's
1:03:54
That was an Unspoiled Network Podcast two