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NFL Coaches' Favorites, Kyler vs. J.J., Watson's Contract Demands & Dad Diaries · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: just dive in and talk some football. So I wanted
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Speaker 1: to start with this because I think, you know, I
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Speaker 1: worked in personnel. I know a lot of people that
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Speaker 1: work in that industry, and they get very passionate over players,
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Speaker 1: no different than fans. Personnel people have a lot in
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Speaker 1: common with fans. They dislike certain players and they love
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Speaker 1: certain players. And you know, it's the old adage of
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Speaker 1: like pound the table, get on the table, stand on
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Speaker 1: the table for this player, and tell us how much
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Speaker 1: you love them. Obviously, general managers, depending on the organization
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Speaker 1: button most have the control and the power to actually
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Speaker 1: pick the player in conjunction with the coach. But I
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Speaker 1: don't think we do a good enough job of talking
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Speaker 1: about how much influence coaches have during that process and
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Speaker 1: how they fall in love with players. And I remember
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Speaker 1: hearing stories when I first got in the league of
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Speaker 1: like you know, the personnel people liked the player, but
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Speaker 1: we knew our position coach hated them, coordinator wasn't that
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Speaker 1: fond of him. It wasn't worth taking them because we
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Speaker 1: knew they probably wouldn't play them and it would just
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Speaker 1: be too big of a pain, so we just went
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Speaker 1: in a different direction. That type stuff happens all the time,
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Speaker 1: and beside, the general manager in the personnel department really
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Speaker 1: has any power once the guy is in the roster,
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Speaker 1: whether he's playing or not, coaches have all the influence, right,
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Speaker 1: And it's why so often as the season goes like
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Speaker 1: why isn't this guy playing more? Or vice versa, why
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Speaker 1: is this guy playing so much? It's usually because coach
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Speaker 1: likes him a lot. And one thing, you know, from
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Speaker 1: a personnel standpoint, it was always like, you know, I
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Speaker 1: don't really care that he knows the playbook, he can't
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Speaker 1: actually play, and the coach is like, but he's so smart,
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Speaker 1: he's always in the right position. I was like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and he misses every tackle when he's there, or he
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Speaker 1: never catches the ball, or he never makes a play.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes though, it just the marriage is perfect, like I
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Speaker 1: love this player and the player is actually good and
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Speaker 1: when the play caller or the coordinator is that person,
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Speaker 1: the ceiling for that individual player is really really high.
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Speaker 1: When the head coaches that individual, the ceiling for that
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Speaker 1: player is unlimited. And Ben Johnson, you know, last year
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Speaker 1: when they're their first draft, I do think some people
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Speaker 1: were shocked when they took Loveland at ten and then
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Speaker 1: they took Luther Burden in the second round. People went,
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Speaker 1: they already got multiple wide receivers, they already got DJ Moore,
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Speaker 1: They just drafted Roma Dunes in the top ten. They
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Speaker 1: have Cole Comett, who they just extended, who's really solid
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Speaker 1: tight end. It was like, no, I want my own
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Speaker 1: guys up in this operation. And what happened this offseason
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Speaker 1: they got rid of Dj Moore. What's probably gonna happen
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Speaker 1: next offseason. Maybe Cole Comett gets dope. And I'm not
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Speaker 1: lumping those two players together. And in the sense that
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Speaker 1: I don't know how big of a DJ Moore guy
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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson was, but I know that this offseason Ben
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Speaker 1: Johnson told you how much he loved Luther Burden. Well one,
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Speaker 1: he told you when they drafted him in the second round,
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Speaker 1: which I think a lot of teams around the league
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Speaker 1: were like, I don't know, no one ever just be
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Speaker 1: the guy's talent. I think there were some other question
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Speaker 1: marks off the field, which there are with a lot
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Speaker 1: of guys on the draft, and depending on the draft
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Speaker 1: room you go in, some teams aren't his I would say,
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Speaker 1: pessimistic about those things, and another front officers are like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's that's a deal breaker for me. And when Ben
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Speaker 1: Johnson said this offseason, I'm going to buy stock in
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Speaker 1: Luther Burn and then he compares him to Amen Ross
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Speaker 1: Saint Brown, who I would say is viewed as one
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Speaker 1: of clearly the most productive players in the league, but
5:33
Speaker 1: just pound for pound, one of the tougher guys in
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Speaker 1: the league, one of the guys like if you just
5:37
Speaker 1: need to go to war on Sunday, you want that
5:40
Speaker 1: guy in the in your huddle, you want that guy
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Speaker 1: on your team. He's that type player, regardless whether he
5:48
Speaker 1: has ten for one fifty and two touchdowns or just
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Speaker 1: a couple catches, you want to be in the trenches
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Speaker 1: with Amen Ross Saint Brown. That's the type guy he is.
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Speaker 1: And Ben Johnson in a front row seat becoming a star,
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Speaker 1: play call with that guy, and now he's building up
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Speaker 1: and listen Luther Burdon had a pretty exciting rookie year,
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Speaker 1: given that there were a bunch of other offensive pieces
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Speaker 1: and they were running the ball a lot. He had
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Speaker 1: forty seven catches. So Ben Jonson's trying to tell you, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fantasy football guy. But if that's
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Speaker 1: the guy calling the place, and he keeps telling you
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Speaker 1: by stocking this guy, this guy's reminding me of amenros
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Speaker 1: Saint Brown, it's pretty clear this is one of his
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Speaker 1: favorite players on the team, just based on his words,
6:31
Speaker 1: might be his favorite player on the team. And when
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Speaker 1: that's the case, and listen, I've seen head coaches love
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Speaker 1: guys on the practice squad. You just are not cutting
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Speaker 1: this guy because I love him. I'm not saying he's
6:44
Speaker 1: gonna play on game day, but we are not getting
6:45
Speaker 1: rid of this player. I love this guy for whatever reason. Ideally,
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Speaker 1: you would want it to be a really talented player
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Speaker 1: that you're using for your head coach to love, and
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Speaker 1: that seems like the case here because this is a
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Speaker 1: guy that's gonna start play a lot and he's the
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Speaker 1: guy that you know, draws up the offense. So if
7:05
Speaker 1: I was a fantasy football guy and I wanted someone
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Speaker 1: to be really productive in twenty twenty six. I would
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Speaker 1: imagine Ben Jonson's gonna have a lot of play calls
7:14
Speaker 1: in the Kayleb Williams that involve throwing the ball to
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Speaker 1: this guy, because it'd be one thing of like, you know,
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Speaker 1: I set the standard really high. He's kind of started slow.
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Speaker 1: He keeps telling you how well this thing is going
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Speaker 1: and is powerful right when the decision maker, When the
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Speaker 1: person in power believes in you, that's an empowering feeling.
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Speaker 1: I can say it from my own experience, you know,
7:40
Speaker 1: being involved with Colin for as long as I've been involved.
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Speaker 1: It's a confidence builder. When the guy that matters most,
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Speaker 1: talks you up, wants to involve you, is behind and
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Speaker 1: in your corner, that kind of matters. I saw it
7:57
Speaker 1: firsthand when I used to go to forty nine or
7:58
Speaker 1: practices when brock per he was young. Do you think
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Speaker 1: it's random that his confidence came out of nowhere just
8:03
Speaker 1: because he was a starter at Iowa State. No, Kyle
8:06
Speaker 1: Shanahan believed in the motherfucker and told everybody, I think
8:10
Speaker 1: this guy's a franchise quarterback. It's like, are you sure?
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Speaker 1: It's like, well, Kyle was. It's like, you think this
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Speaker 1: guy's Amin Ross Saint Brown. You think this guy's gonna
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Speaker 1: be like a Pro Bowl high end all Pro wide receiver. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I do. And I'm Ben Johnson. You all think I'm
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Speaker 1: one of the best play callers in the league. I
8:28
Speaker 1: resurrected the Bears, and this is the guy I believe in,
8:31
Speaker 1: cause like, yeah, a lot of people believed in Caleb Williams,
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Speaker 1: like what's he leveland was a top ten pick. He's
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Speaker 1: basically telling you, like, this guy's going to be a
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Speaker 1: stud and that you know resonates it should. If I
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Speaker 1: was Luther Burden's agent or in his camp, I would
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Speaker 1: be like, bro, the most important guy in the building
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Speaker 1: believes in you want you to be a star. Do
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Speaker 1: everything humanly possible to do everything he wants. When he
9:05
Speaker 1: says jump, don't just jump, then jump again because I'll
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Speaker 1: promise you this. I'm looking around the landscape of the
9:12
Speaker 1: league and just saw Chris Olave, who good player for
9:16
Speaker 1: him first round pick, have one breakout year and get
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Speaker 1: ninety million dollars guaranteed in a couple of years. Because
9:22
Speaker 1: you were a second round pick, meaning you are contract
9:25
Speaker 1: eligible after your third year. The numbers we could be talking.
9:29
Speaker 1: If this goes well, are start in the nine figures
9:34
Speaker 1: guaranteed money. So whatever this man asks. And if you
9:39
Speaker 1: if you don't feel one hundred percent but you're not injured,
9:42
Speaker 1: you're just a little banged up, do everything possible to
9:44
Speaker 1: be on the field at all times and lay it
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Speaker 1: on the line for this guy, because where your position's
9:51
Speaker 1: trending financially and the ability to be a star at
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Speaker 1: your position, given that this guy's the one pulling the
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Speaker 1: trigger on where the ball goes and telling Hale where
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Speaker 1: to throw. Bro, you got it pretty good speaking of
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Speaker 1: someone that doesn't have it really good. Is by all
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Speaker 1: accounts in reports and the buzz around the league is
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's gonna be the starting quarterback, which to me
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Speaker 1: is not a story. It is not a story. I mean,
10:19
Speaker 1: it's going to be a story, but it shouldn't be
10:21
Speaker 1: like a jaw dropping WHOA didn't see that coming when
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is named the quarterback, like after what happened
10:30
Speaker 1: last year, and then you factor in the previous year
10:32
Speaker 1: that he was just unavailable, and then you factor in
10:35
Speaker 1: his body of work in college didn't have to do
10:37
Speaker 1: that much. It just you could have seen this coming
10:39
Speaker 1: from a mile away once we got to the off season.
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Speaker 1: To me, the question is with JJ McCarthy, once Kyler
10:47
Speaker 1: is named the starting quarterback, can JJ McCarthy be the
10:51
Speaker 1: backup quarterback? Because let's face it, when you got Kevin
10:55
Speaker 1: O'Connell making a lot of money, I think Brian Flores
10:57
Speaker 1: is one of, if not the highest paid co co
11:00
Speaker 1: ordinators in the entire league. You're paying a bunch of
11:04
Speaker 1: guys on your team a lot of money, multiple tackles,
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver like You've invested a lot into this
11:10
Speaker 1: team at a bunch of different positions. You got a
11:12
Speaker 1: bunch of high end players. So the expectation, even if
11:15
Speaker 1: you can't win the division because you got some quarterback transition,
11:18
Speaker 1: will be to compete for a wildcard spot. Do you
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Speaker 1: feel comfortable making JJ McCarthy your backup quarterback? And I
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Speaker 1: think we have recent examples. Trey Lance is won. When
11:29
Speaker 1: you draft a guy really high and then he is
11:32
Speaker 1: basically benched, it gets uncomfortable, and it gets uncomfortable fast.
11:38
Speaker 1: And last year Anthony Richardson, which somewhat of a similar situation,
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Speaker 1: when Daniel Jones was named the starting quarterback, I can't
11:48
Speaker 1: remember the exact day, but maybe midway through training camp
11:51
Speaker 1: there was that moment when Anthony Richardson in the preseason
11:53
Speaker 1: game didn't see the blitz come in and got injured
11:55
Speaker 1: and like dislocated as pinky remember or one of his fingers.
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Speaker 1: They just didn't have a choice because the were only
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Speaker 1: other quarterback on the roster was the rookie who was
12:05
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure was injured two at the time. I'm
12:07
Speaker 1: kind of forgetting. But when Trey Lance, who had to
12:10
Speaker 1: compete with Sam Darnold for the backup job, like he
12:13
Speaker 1: didn't win the jobs, like, well, we don't even want
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Speaker 1: him on the roster, and they just traded him to
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, And I just wonder, if JJ McCarthy can't
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Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback, can he be the backup when
12:24
Speaker 1: you already have Carson Wentz on the roster. And he'd
12:27
Speaker 1: be like, well, John, why do you just want to
12:30
Speaker 1: sell low trade him for a sixth or a seventh
12:33
Speaker 1: conditional pick. Why wouldn't you just keep him around, keep
12:36
Speaker 1: working with him and not just you know, wave the
12:40
Speaker 1: white flag to this experiment, Because in fairness to JJ,
12:44
Speaker 1: all quarterbacks drafted high unless you're freaking John Elway, Peyton Manning,
12:49
Speaker 1: or like Andrew Luck are kind of experiments. Patrick Mahomes
12:54
Speaker 1: was an experiment. Now, some experiments turn out to be
12:59
Speaker 1: have an incredible results, right, and some experiments go nowhere
13:04
Speaker 1: and their results are putting a shredding machine and never
13:09
Speaker 1: seeing again. And I think at this point in time,
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Speaker 1: if you're Kevin O'Connell, you have a new general manager,
13:16
Speaker 1: how about we just move on. I'm a huge believer
13:19
Speaker 1: when something isn't working of just pivoting and going to
13:23
Speaker 1: the next thing, because I think anytime most humans are
13:27
Speaker 1: wired the same way, whether it's you know, kind of
13:30
Speaker 1: a relationship. You know, when you're trying to break up
13:32
Speaker 1: with somebody but you're still seeing them, you're still kind
13:34
Speaker 1: of sleeping together, and when you get lonely, you still
13:36
Speaker 1: hang out. It's like you're never going to break up
13:39
Speaker 1: doing that. Sometimes you just gotta put a line in
13:41
Speaker 1: the stand, delete the other person's number, mute the other person,
13:44
Speaker 1: and just go your separate ways cold turkey. It's very,
13:47
Speaker 1: very difficult to do, but when you do that, it's
13:51
Speaker 1: easier to take the next step of like, what do
13:52
Speaker 1: we need to do to figure out our quarterback situation,
13:55
Speaker 1: assuming that Kyler Murray can't just resurrect his career and
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Speaker 1: be the franchise quarterback for Minnesota, because I don't believe that.
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Speaker 1: Like I still got a lot of questions, but like
14:04
Speaker 1: as a lot of you Vikings fans often pushed back
14:06
Speaker 1: when I think this is not gonna work, you go,
14:09
Speaker 1: this franchise historically has had a really really high floor.
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Speaker 1: And I'm in totally agreement here. You have excellent coaching,
14:16
Speaker 1: you have really good players on the roster. You know,
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Speaker 1: Kyler's proving, he get banged up, and he's a little
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Speaker 1: bit of an inconsistent player. And in fairness to him,
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Speaker 1: like some of his inconsistency is simply when you're five
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Speaker 1: to nine and you're throwing over guys six foot four,
14:28
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of difficult. So it's hard to just
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Speaker 1: sit in the pocket and just slice and dice people
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Speaker 1: like you're Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. Like to me
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Speaker 1: as short of a quarterback as you want, like six'
14:38
Speaker 1: one is really pushing. It, well six' one is like
14:41
Speaker 1: three and a half inches taller Than Kyler. Murray but
14:44
Speaker 1: Like Kyler murray's worst, day he's more. Talented he's just
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Speaker 1: gonna be more effective THAN jj. McCarthy the question, is
14:52
Speaker 1: Is Carson wentz gonna be more effective THAN jj, McCarthy and,
14:56
Speaker 1: honestly that might not even be the. Question maybe the
14:59
Speaker 1: question is Does kevin O'Connell and the new general manager
15:03
Speaker 1: From seattle believe That Carson wentz is going to be
15:06
Speaker 1: more effective THAN jj, McCarthy because if that is the
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Speaker 1: case this, league you, KNOW i love it WHEN gm
15:14
Speaker 1: say my job is to think about the next five.
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Speaker 1: Years maybe that used to be the, case but in
15:20
Speaker 1: the pace in which the league operates now society, operates
15:24
Speaker 1: it's probably more like a couple of. Years and most
15:28
Speaker 1: coaches live year to year and really week to week
15:32
Speaker 1: once the season. Starts so my guess is THAT jj
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18:26
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Speaker 1: You AND i think we've seen a couple of recent
18:33
Speaker 1: examples Of Matt, ryan who is And i'm not saying
18:37
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18:40
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18:44
Speaker 1: game and it leads to some very very easy passes
18:49
Speaker 1: when the running game is working because it's a lot of,
18:53
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18:57
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19:18
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19:22
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19:27
Speaker 1: jackson that could go from like a couple of yard
19:29
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19:32
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19:35
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19:39
Speaker 1: Matt ryan is a good example of someone that hated,
19:41
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19:45
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19:47
Speaker 1: it and won AN. Mvp BUT i don't think that's
19:50
Speaker 1: a great example Because Matt ryan is not a good
19:52
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19:56
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Speaker 1: Shotgun i've proven to be one of the great all
20:01
Speaker 1: time players playing my, Way but new, coach can we
20:06
Speaker 1: morph an offense into WHAT i do well and what
20:09
Speaker 1: you do? Well and what Happened Aaron? Rodgers he went
20:11
Speaker 1: back to back. MVPs SO i think if they can
20:14
Speaker 1: find a perfect happy medium of the Stuff Lamar jackson
20:18
Speaker 1: has excelled at for five years to some of the
20:21
Speaker 1: easy shit that Makes Sam darnold and, pretty you, know
20:26
Speaker 1: have games where they look like stars because it's pitch and.
20:30
Speaker 1: Catch with twenty thirty percent of these passes that are
20:34
Speaker 1: just easy because of the, scheme it can unlock some.
20:38
Speaker 1: Stuff And i'm not that bullish on The, ravens BUT
20:44
Speaker 1: i do think when you have a guy with this
20:45
Speaker 1: skill set who can be an accurate, passer who can
20:48
Speaker 1: throw on the, move and who's just movement ability in
20:51
Speaker 1: this offense is better than everybody's. Right if you just
20:55
Speaker 1: go around The shanahan offense over the LAST i don't,
20:58
Speaker 1: know ten. Years the high end athleticism is Like, Rogers Sam,
21:06
Speaker 1: darnold you, know But stafford can't move. Anymore Matt ryan
21:11
Speaker 1: could never, Move cousins couldn't. Move so if you kind
21:14
Speaker 1: of go, around it's kind of uniquely set up here
21:18
Speaker 1: to be pretty. Fun and speaking of being pretty, fun
21:23
Speaker 1: we often talk about quarterbacks and the importance of who their,
21:28
Speaker 1: coaches because it can make or. Break if you Get Bill,
21:32
Speaker 1: wallash if you Get Andy, reid if you Get Mike,
21:34
Speaker 1: holmgren you can become a. Legend if you get An Ebra,
21:38
Speaker 1: fluse it could ruin your. Career Jeff fisher's first year
21:42
Speaker 1: With Jared goff made him look like a. Bum next
21:44
Speaker 1: Year Sam sean McVay shows, up he looks like An all.
21:48
Speaker 1: STAR i, mean he just learned how to play football.
21:51
Speaker 1: Overnight no coaching, scheme, techniques confidence building up a, guy
21:58
Speaker 1: letting a guy figure it, out figuring out what they do,
22:01
Speaker 1: well what they don't do. Well all that really. Matters
22:04
Speaker 1: we don't talk about it. Enough at running, back most
22:07
Speaker 1: guys are Not Barry. Sanders you could Put Barry sanders
22:11
Speaker 1: anywhere and he would have been, okay if you gave
22:15
Speaker 1: him a better offensive, line he would be more. Dominant
22:18
Speaker 1: but you could give him a terrible offensive line and
22:20
Speaker 1: he was still gained fourteen hundred. Yards. Right BUT i
22:23
Speaker 1: was thinking the other day About Terrell, davis you, know
22:26
Speaker 1: kind of one of the more unique careers of all.
22:28
Speaker 1: Time late round. Pick makes a big play in training,
22:31
Speaker 1: camp they have some. Injuries by the start of his rookie,
22:33
Speaker 1: year he's starting at running. BACK a couple of years,
22:35
Speaker 1: in he's running for two thousand yards and Winning Super. Bowls,
22:39
Speaker 1: clearly he's a talented player and just needed the right.
22:41
Speaker 1: Opportunity but it's not like he came From Valdosta. State
22:44
Speaker 1: he was playing At. Georgia he Got Mike, shanahan he
22:48
Speaker 1: Got John, elway he got the inside and outside. Zone
22:52
Speaker 1: it was the perfect match for the perfect. Player Like
22:56
Speaker 1: christian McCaffrey had proven that he could be a really
23:00
Speaker 1: GOOD nfl. Player he became AN mvp candidate When Kyle
23:03
Speaker 1: shanahan traded. Form SO i was thinking about asking gent
23:08
Speaker 1: because he was talking About Listen. Night there's a lot
23:11
Speaker 1: of pressure on him to be a, leader to be
23:13
Speaker 1: one of the league. Guys he was six overall. Pick
23:16
Speaker 1: kubiak had a great quote today that, like we don't
23:18
Speaker 1: have any turds on this. Team turd is such a
23:22
Speaker 1: such a coach scouting kind of, Term like you don't
23:26
Speaker 1: hear you just don't hear that term. Anywhere gotten to
23:30
Speaker 1: dinner with your, buddies go to just some random convention
23:34
Speaker 1: for some random industry football always used the word, turd
23:39
Speaker 1: like that guy's a, turd you know that Guy's And
23:42
Speaker 1: kubiak is, like we don't have any. Turds and clearly
23:45
Speaker 1: it feels like they have a bunch of high level.
23:47
Speaker 1: Guys how good they're gonna be only time will, tell
23:50
Speaker 1: But jitti is a high, character super impressive. Guy talk
23:55
Speaker 1: to some people with The. Raiders they, said he's a great,
23:58
Speaker 1: shape he looks. Excellent but a lot of that position's
24:01
Speaker 1: out of. Control the offensive. LINE i think there's still
24:04
Speaker 1: some question, marks but there is no question mark With,
24:06
Speaker 1: kubiak who go back To Jerald, davis whose dad was
24:09
Speaker 1: on that staff With Mike Shanahan, kubiak whose dad then
24:13
Speaker 1: taught all these guys that offense where all these guys
24:17
Speaker 1: worked for. Him Gary, kubiak who this is his, son
24:22
Speaker 1: so and you look At clinton last. Year by the
24:25
Speaker 1: end of the, year who won THE mvp in The Super.
24:28
Speaker 1: Bowl Kenneth walker not a fantasy football. GUY i could
24:35
Speaker 1: See Asha genty having a big step this, year being
24:38
Speaker 1: a really productive, guy being a featured guy in this.
24:41
Speaker 1: Offense pretty excited to, watch kind of the maturation of
24:46
Speaker 1: this coach and running. Back Clearly. Cousins it's not like
24:51
Speaker 1: you're going to lean on him for him forty five
24:53
Speaker 1: times a. Game and the one Thing mendoza excelled at
24:57
Speaker 1: was running an offense that was run center in. College
25:01
Speaker 1: SO i look For Ashon genty to have a pretty big. Year.
25:05
Speaker 1: SUBSTATION i understand where the first reaction to a lot
25:12
Speaker 1: of people, Say i'll just conspiracy. Theorists this is just
25:15
Speaker 1: throwing shit at the wall and seeing if it sticks.
25:19
Speaker 1: Well since twenty, fourteen the forty Nine ers have consistently
25:24
Speaker 1: been one, of if not the most injured team in THE.
25:28
Speaker 1: Nfl in twenty fourteen was also the year the substation
25:34
Speaker 1: was extended and was added to and Became, honestly Maybe
25:42
Speaker 1: i've been To Santa clara a million times to forty
25:44
Speaker 1: nine or, PRACTICE i never paid that much. ATTENTION i
25:48
Speaker 1: didn't notice and THEN i saw a video the other
25:50
Speaker 1: day of the size of. It i'm, Like, god it's
25:52
Speaker 1: even bigger than you. Realize and the forty nine ers
25:56
Speaker 1: are just dropping like. Flies Mike evans now has a quad.
25:59
Speaker 1: Injury they've already lost multiple running backs to different. Injuries
26:05
Speaker 1: their coach obviously is in the concussion, protocol even though
26:09
Speaker 1: it looks like he's trending out of. It the conversation
26:13
Speaker 1: about this substation for people with the forty nine is
26:17
Speaker 1: never going to go away as long as guys keep getting,
26:20
Speaker 1: injured and it is only going to grow and. Grow
26:24
Speaker 1: it's easy for me to say turn off your, phone
26:27
Speaker 1: but people with, teams young, athletes young people in, general
26:32
Speaker 1: that is a difficult thing to. Do it's easy for
26:35
Speaker 1: the fifty five year old guy to, go have some,
26:37
Speaker 1: perspective just turn off the. Phone there is truth to.
26:40
Speaker 1: That it's a very healthy thing to, do but it's
26:43
Speaker 1: not necessarily realistic with a lot of young. People and
26:45
Speaker 1: you can't convince me that this story is if guys
26:49
Speaker 1: go down at the rate in which they're already going
26:52
Speaker 1: down and the injuries maintains being a story which it
26:56
Speaker 1: has consistently been now for over ten, years and Since
26:59
Speaker 1: kyle has been, there they have been one of the league.
27:02
Speaker 1: LEADERS i just think these, players it's gonna be easy
27:06
Speaker 1: to be, LIKE i don't know, SCIENCE i don't know
27:07
Speaker 1: any of this, stuff AND i agree like no one really.
27:09
Speaker 1: Knows but we're in the heart Of Silicon. Valley they've
27:12
Speaker 1: expanded this, thing the power of that. Thing you see
27:16
Speaker 1: all these other, Clips AND i don't pretend to have
27:18
Speaker 1: been to that many practice, facilities BUT i feel like
27:23
Speaker 1: at this point in, TIME i have a pretty good
27:25
Speaker 1: idea what most of them look, like Because i've seen
27:27
Speaker 1: them on the. Internet like they're just kind of in urban,
27:31
Speaker 1: areas big, fields maybe housing projects behind, it maybe some
27:36
Speaker 1: cornfields behind just. Space, meanwhile the forty nine ers got
27:41
Speaker 1: fucking WiFi just pulsing through their joints and their, muscles
27:45
Speaker 1: and every other practice is like that guy's. Down it's, like,
27:49
Speaker 1: ah not the, substation. LISTEN i don't pretend to, know
27:55
Speaker 1: But i'm no idiot to know that this story is going.
27:59
Speaker 1: Nowhere Deshaun watson said that he would like another contract
28:04
Speaker 1: from The Cleveland browns' that's an all time, comment it really.
28:10
Speaker 1: Is you take two hundred and thirty million dollars all.
28:13
Speaker 1: Guaranteed you come out and you're, like you, know me
28:16
Speaker 1: and my wife really loved this. Place if you gave
28:18
Speaker 1: me two hundred and thirty million, dollars you could put
28:22
Speaker 1: me in any, state in any, city and you know,
28:26
Speaker 1: WHAT i would find some love for that. Place because
28:30
Speaker 1: when you can live like a, KING i don't give a.
28:32
Speaker 1: Shit if you're In, Malibu, miami or In North, dakota
28:37
Speaker 1: you are in the best spot in that area and
28:40
Speaker 1: it's just not gonna. Suck so whether you're In, Brea,
28:43
Speaker 1: ohio whether you're In, Houston, texas whether you're In North Caro,
28:47
Speaker 1: Charlotte North, CAROLINA i don't care where you. Are when
28:51
Speaker 1: you can live like a, king it ain't that, bad you.
28:54
Speaker 1: Know so when he's, like, yeah me and my wife
28:56
Speaker 1: loved this, place, well, yeah your pat is probably. Badass
29:00
Speaker 1: but there's ocean are, like, Yeah i've loved another contract.
29:02
Speaker 1: Here here's who would not like you to have another contract.
29:05
Speaker 1: Here The Cleveland, browns the front, office the coaching, staff
29:10
Speaker 1: and literally every fan that is ever rooted for this.
29:13
Speaker 1: Team SO i would imagine if you polled most, fans
29:18
Speaker 1: they'd be, like, listen just make sha door this starting
29:21
Speaker 1: quarterback and just see what we. Have we know we're
29:24
Speaker 1: out of The Deshaun watson business after this. Year the
29:27
Speaker 1: only reason unless the gap somehow in practice he looks fucking,
29:30
Speaker 1: incredible which by What i've, seen that is not the.
29:34
Speaker 1: Case and we know he's not gonna be on the
29:37
Speaker 1: team this, year so we're just basically giving him the
29:39
Speaker 1: starting nod because he's making way more Than, sanders which
29:44
Speaker 1: is because he's been making a ton of money now
29:46
Speaker 1: for four or five, years because we gave him one
29:48
Speaker 1: of the worst contracts in the history of the. League
29:50
Speaker 1: you could argue one of the worst contracts in the
29:51
Speaker 1: history of, sports truly is because it's one thing some
29:56
Speaker 1: of these LIKE nba players LIKE i CAN'T Beli Joel embiid's. Contract,
30:01
Speaker 1: well at least he's given The, SIXERS i don't, know
30:04
Speaker 1: AN mvp, Season All star, appearances been a star for.
30:09
Speaker 1: Them but some of these contracts go bad as these
30:13
Speaker 1: guys age or get banged. Up but at least at
30:15
Speaker 1: one point in time you're, LIKE i remember when that
30:17
Speaker 1: guy was really. Good knowing what The browns can, say,
30:20
Speaker 1: that knowing what the, organization no. Fans it has just
30:24
Speaker 1: been misery of just all this. Money it's had a
30:29
Speaker 1: huge impact on the. Cap it's impacted by far the
30:32
Speaker 1: most important, position and it's just led to chaos as
30:38
Speaker 1: as the other teams in the. Division, obviously for the most,
30:42
Speaker 1: part The ravens have been pretty consistently, good but The
30:44
Speaker 1: steelers have gone through, transition The bengals have gone through.
30:47
Speaker 1: Transition it's not like every year all three teams have
30:50
Speaker 1: been winning ten to fourteen. GAMES i, mean look at
30:52
Speaker 1: last Year Wide. Open so it's always something being of The.
30:58
Speaker 1: Steelers rogers went fucking taking a shit On, fauci Ripping
31:03
Speaker 1: russini and ESPN. I i can't even imagine some of
31:06
Speaker 1: THOSE c suite execs back At bristol When rogers is
31:11
Speaker 1: just Crushing he's, Like i'm a new man with my,
31:13
Speaker 1: family BUT i got Some Van. Dettis i'm Gonna i'm
31:17
Speaker 1: gonna check off the box right. Now he's a beauty
31:20
Speaker 1: when he's pissed, off he truly. Is. Uh before we
31:24
Speaker 1: do the Mailbag dad, diaries the one thing you're you,
31:32
Speaker 1: know you're supposed to feed your child food and they
31:36
Speaker 1: have just been had one source of food for the
31:40
Speaker 1: first six months of their. Life and that is breast.
31:41
Speaker 1: Milk you, know some people do. Formula jack won't even
31:45
Speaker 1: mess with. Formula. Bro he's kind of a he's a
31:47
Speaker 1: he's an elitist when it comes to. Food and you're
31:50
Speaker 1: supposed to transition him right around this point six seven,
31:52
Speaker 1: months five, months start giving him normal. Food so you,
31:55
Speaker 1: know you, start you, START i, don't she. Does you're
32:00
Speaker 1: doing some, Pures take some, apples take some, avocados take some.
32:04
Speaker 1: Carrots this, KID i mean you try to put something
32:08
Speaker 1: in his, mouth grabs, it throws it at, you starts
32:11
Speaker 1: shaking his head like an alligator having a. Child IS
32:19
Speaker 1: i can't EVEN i start thinking how MUCH i love,
32:22
Speaker 1: Food and there's a point in all of our lives
32:26
Speaker 1: when we're really really, tiny that we won't eat any of.
32:30
Speaker 1: It it is truly pretty. Crazy but the other day
32:34
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32:37
Speaker 1: egg made him a scrambled, egg put a tiny little
32:40
Speaker 1: bit in his, mouth acted like he just ate dog,
32:43
Speaker 1: shit and then took the little rubber little kid's spoon
32:48
Speaker 1: and like flipped it at us with his, hands and
32:51
Speaker 1: then started shaking his, head like where's the attitude on this?
32:55
Speaker 1: Kid he's, like give me my milk, bottle you losers
33:00
Speaker 1: need it. Now but, uh that's our new uphill battle
33:04
Speaker 1: is trying to get him with some. Food he's got
33:08
Speaker 1: a couple of little teeth coming and he's like a
33:10
Speaker 1: little jack. Rabbit but you, know one day he'll just
33:13
Speaker 1: be eating cheeseburgers and ordering. Food one HACK i heard
33:18
Speaker 1: the other day at a party, is, uh we were
33:22
Speaker 1: at like one of her friend's house and they were
33:26
Speaker 1: she had these girls that she used to babysit for
33:28
Speaker 1: who are now like in, college and the girls come
33:31
Speaker 1: out and now watch her. Dogs and she was telling
33:33
Speaker 1: the story the new hack to get alcohol BECAUSE i
33:36
Speaker 1: was using this, story, like you know a lot of
33:37
Speaker 1: us have had fake IDs our in our younger, years
33:40
Speaker 1: maybe like, eighteen, nineteen twenty years. Old you always had
33:43
Speaker 1: the good spot you, knew like the dude at the
33:45
Speaker 1: local mini marked in card or maybe he didn't. Care.
33:49
Speaker 1: Well the new hack is you just use one of
33:51
Speaker 1: the apps you, upload you, know one of your parents', IDs,
33:55
Speaker 1: right and you just get it. Delivered so you're telling,
34:01
Speaker 1: me the kids these, days if they want to date,
34:03
Speaker 1: someone they never have to talk to their. Parents if
34:06
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34:09
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34:14
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34:16
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34:21
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34:22
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34:25
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34:28
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34:31
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34:38
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34:40
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34:44
Speaker 1: now if you're just ordering on your parents, account you're
34:46
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34:49
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36:24
Speaker 1: do you think teams that have elite gms like The
36:28
Speaker 1: eagles or The seahawks can't bottom out the same way
36:32
Speaker 1: that teams with elite head coaches, do Like shanahan or.
36:36
Speaker 1: McVeigh when The hawks And eagles, struggle they go around five,
36:40
Speaker 1: hundred but for the forty Nine ers And, rams they
36:43
Speaker 1: went around five. GAMES i think any, team if you
36:47
Speaker 1: have the perfect storm at quarterback where you have a
36:49
Speaker 1: bunch of, injuries you could have a. Disaster if you
36:53
Speaker 1: tell me The eagles Lose Jalen hurts And tanner McKee
36:56
Speaker 1: and all of a, Sudden Andy dalton's in. There the
37:01
Speaker 1: thing is their defense is so good right now that
37:03
Speaker 1: they you, know they still win six to seven. Games
37:06
Speaker 1: the forty Nine ers could have some injuries where it
37:08
Speaker 1: could Happen. Seattle Who's seattle's backup, Quarterback Drew. LOCKE i, don't,
37:16
Speaker 1: HONESTLY i have to look it. OUT i don't even
37:18
Speaker 1: know who their backup quarterback. Is that's type situation where
37:21
Speaker 1: you could find yourself in a little bit of an.
37:23
Speaker 1: ISSUE i, mean they did lose multiple players on the.
37:27
Speaker 1: Defense they lost their starting running, back even though, he you,
37:32
Speaker 1: Know Kenneth, walker you would, say over the course of
37:34
Speaker 1: his career had been a little. UNDERWHELMING i don't think
37:40
Speaker 1: it's about like elite head coach or ELITE. GM i
37:43
Speaker 1: think any no team is immune from a. Disaster no
37:48
Speaker 1: team is. Immune, now disasters come in different shapes or. Sizes,
37:53
Speaker 1: right If Josh allen missed two, months The bills would
37:57
Speaker 1: be capital F you know, What, Right Joe burrow gets turf.
38:03
Speaker 1: Towed The bengals season is. Over it's a. Rap The
38:08
Speaker 1: chiefs had been five or Six Super, bowls clearly ran
38:11
Speaker 1: out of, gas start and losing some close, games and
38:13
Speaker 1: it just that they couldn't maintain the one score. Games
38:18
Speaker 1: BUT i think any team Is no team is. Immune
38:23
Speaker 1: no team is. Immune, now if your roster as a
38:27
Speaker 1: whole is, better you are going to be more. Immuned
38:32
Speaker 1: like you can go seven and ten and look. Terrible,
38:35
Speaker 1: Right so you could go seven and ten instead of,
38:38
Speaker 1: five and what would it? Be five and five and?
38:41
Speaker 1: TWELVE i mean the difference of five and twelve and
38:44
Speaker 1: seven and, ten as crazy as it, sounds could be
38:48
Speaker 1: like less than five. Plays SO i don't know if
38:52
Speaker 1: there's a correlation. There if you were The, cardinals would
38:56
Speaker 1: you Extend Michael wilson three years seventy five million dollars sixty?
38:59
Speaker 1: Million do guaranteed he proved once there was an uh
39:04
Speaker 1: there was a REAL nfl quarterback under center that he's
39:07
Speaker 1: a real wide, receiver and it would be a discount
39:11
Speaker 1: in the future for a wide receiver. Too to, McBride
39:15
Speaker 1: If marv comes along with a fifth year, option he's
39:17
Speaker 1: under control for three more, Years So michael could be
39:20
Speaker 1: a tradable. Contract let me look AT i honestly don't
39:25
Speaker 1: know that much about him beside last Year washington play
39:29
Speaker 1: and he was killing. It he's twenty six years. Old
39:32
Speaker 1: he was a third round pick in twenty, three so twenty,
39:35
Speaker 1: three twenty, four twenty, five so he's going into his
39:38
Speaker 1: last year of his. Contract, he like you, said had
39:41
Speaker 1: a breakout year last, year seventy eight, catches seven. Touchdowns
39:47
Speaker 1: assuming that super high character Guy stanford probably pretty. Smart
39:53
Speaker 1: oh MAYBE i MAYBE i didn't quite realize who this player. Was,
39:57
Speaker 1: YEAH i MEAN i think that would be a a
40:00
Speaker 1: pretty safe. CONTRACT i think that would BE i would do. That,
40:05
Speaker 1: YES i would say where we stand right. Now if
40:10
Speaker 1: you were a betting, man IF i, said, hey take
40:13
Speaker 1: a thousand, dollars who would you bet on over the
40:16
Speaker 1: next five, Years Michael wilson Or Marvin, harrison you would
40:21
Speaker 1: have to be pretty nuts And i'll put that thousand
40:23
Speaker 1: dollars On Michael. Wilson looks way better, clearly just everything
40:29
Speaker 1: you always read and stuff at practice now with this new,
40:31
Speaker 1: OPERATION i just Think Michael wilson is a better player Markin,
40:35
Speaker 1: harrison which happens all the. Time just because you're a
40:39
Speaker 1: top ten draft, pick doesn't mean some dude in the
40:41
Speaker 1: third round in five years won't be better than you
40:43
Speaker 1: in two years and three. YEARS i mean it happens
40:46
Speaker 1: in training. Camp you draft a guy in the fourth,
40:47
Speaker 1: round and by the end of training, camp the undrafted
40:49
Speaker 1: free agent at the same position is a better. Player
40:53
Speaker 1: SO i don't think that's. Crazy if You're michael wils
40:57
Speaker 1: you could also, SAY, i You're Michael, wilson would you
40:59
Speaker 1: excit accept that you're a year away from free? Agency
41:03
Speaker 1: are they going to franchise you when they got no?
41:05
Speaker 1: Quarterback you, know it's, like are they going to franchise
41:10
Speaker 1: you and not pick up his fifth year? OPTION I
41:15
Speaker 1: i think you just played. OUT i don't think you signed.
41:17
Speaker 1: That if You're Michael, wilson do you think the league's
41:21
Speaker 1: view of running backs is fundamentally. Changing gibbs And bijon
41:25
Speaker 1: are holding out for huge, contracts but they also function
41:27
Speaker 1: as a slot receiver and among the league's most valuable offensive.
41:30
Speaker 1: Weapons teams have also invested major draft capital in the,
41:34
Speaker 1: position With Ashton gendigo and six overall And Jeremiah love
41:38
Speaker 1: going third. Overall fantasy football seems to reflect the shift too,
41:42
Speaker 1: back with strong, pedigree, usage, efficiency and age profiles are
41:47
Speaker 1: being drafted significantly early than compare bole players or a
41:51
Speaker 1: few years. Ago considering, that are we seeing a genuine
41:56
Speaker 1: correction how this position is valued or is there just
41:59
Speaker 1: an exceptional generation of? TALENT i think B John robinson's
42:04
Speaker 1: a pretty special, talent you, Know saquon And christian. McCaffrey
42:07
Speaker 1: i mean you're talking about Like hall Of fame level. Talents.
42:10
Speaker 1: NOW i don't know if the total resume of these
42:13
Speaker 1: guys all careers will lead them to The hall Of,
42:15
Speaker 1: fame BUT i think we would all Agree christian McCaffrey
42:18
Speaker 1: And Saquon barkley or hall Of fame level. TALENTS B
42:21
Speaker 1: John robinson is A hall Of fame level. Talent gibbs
42:25
Speaker 1: is A hall Of fame level. Talent, like you can
42:27
Speaker 1: build your offense around these, guys and what do they
42:31
Speaker 1: all have in? Common, Well saquon's the worst of the.
42:33
Speaker 1: Bunch his hands can be a little hit or, miss
42:35
Speaker 1: but like they can do it. All you could literally
42:40
Speaker 1: just Put bijon could just be a wide. Receiver gibbs
42:44
Speaker 1: could be a wide. Receiver christian McCaffrey literally could be
42:47
Speaker 1: Like Wes, welker so, historic Like Adrian Peterson hall Of,
42:53
Speaker 1: famer awesome bellcow running, back could only run the, ball
42:59
Speaker 1: bad pass cat sure sneaky for a, big, powerful strong,
43:02
Speaker 1: guy awful in pass. Protection wasn't really a complete, player
43:07
Speaker 1: but he was so good at just handing him the
43:10
Speaker 1: ball or pitching him the. Ball it didn't really. Matter
43:14
Speaker 1: honestly mattered at. Zero you just just give it to
43:17
Speaker 1: him twenty five times. Again but all these other guys
43:20
Speaker 1: now are just complete. Players jeremiah love complete. Player SO
43:26
Speaker 1: i think the, argument If i'm representing one of bijonre
43:30
Speaker 1: Or Jamier, gibbs they're probably, like, oh, well just whoever's
43:35
Speaker 1: the highest paid running, back we'll give you five percent.
43:37
Speaker 1: More it's, like, No, doug. Uh we view our guy
43:41
Speaker 1: as like a hybrid. Player so WHEN i see two
43:45
Speaker 1: years Ago Brandon auk get seventy seven balls and get
43:49
Speaker 1: seventy five million dollars, Guaranteed, yeah we're gonna need like
43:54
Speaker 1: eighty ninety. Guaranteed well that's not the comp that's not you,
43:58
Speaker 1: know the previous home him on this cul De sac
44:01
Speaker 1: sold for one million. Dollars that's. Great the market has
44:05
Speaker 1: changed and we plan on changing that. Motherfucker so we're
44:09
Speaker 1: gonna need double what you think we're. Worth that's WHAT
44:12
Speaker 1: i would imagine these negotiations are, going BECAUSE i would
44:17
Speaker 1: be hesitant signing one of these running back contracts If
44:20
Speaker 1: i'm their. Agent and that's WHERE i think the push
44:23
Speaker 1: and pull, of like it's, like, okay just hold, out then,
44:27
Speaker 1: okay we, will we. WILL i know you need. US
44:31
Speaker 1: i mean The. Falcons If bijon doesn't, play they wouldn't
44:34
Speaker 1: win a. Game The lions could. Function they clearly need
44:39
Speaker 1: him to be like a playoff team that The falcons
44:41
Speaker 1: could not, function they would be. Done so things. CHANGE
44:49
Speaker 1: i never understand why some of these tight, ends you,
44:52
Speaker 1: know like The chiefs were very lucky In Travis kelcey's.
44:56
Speaker 1: Prime he's putting up elite wide receiver. Numbers he's an unstoppable,
45:01
Speaker 1: force yet he doesn't get paid like the wide. Receivers
45:04
Speaker 1: he gets paid like the tight, ends even though he's
45:07
Speaker 1: legitimately a dominant wide receiver just in a tight end's.
45:11
Speaker 1: Body SO i would have a hard time IF i
45:15
Speaker 1: was an, agent IF i had certain, Players it's, like,
45:19
Speaker 1: Yeah i'm just Not we're not signing that. Contract what
45:23
Speaker 1: he brings the, table you build the offense around, Him
45:27
Speaker 1: we're gonna need more than. That your thoughts On Parague
45:31
Speaker 1: marate leaving The. NINERS i saw That quessei is back
45:36
Speaker 1: and is picking up some Of parogu's. Duties does that
45:39
Speaker 1: make you nervous for The? NINERS i Know parrague was
45:42
Speaker 1: a hard ass for negotiating, contracts but hopefully there will
45:45
Speaker 1: be less contract drama going. Forward i've been so. BUSY i,
45:52
Speaker 1: MEAN i Know parogue a little. BIT i haven't talked
45:54
Speaker 1: to him about you, know he's he was essentially the
45:59
Speaker 1: owner's right hand, guy and for a long period of
46:03
Speaker 1: time he was the go to guy for. CONTRACTS i
46:06
Speaker 1: do think over the course of the last seven eight,
46:09
Speaker 1: years he has people that have worked under him that
46:12
Speaker 1: have taken a stronger. Role so with some of these contract,
46:16
Speaker 1: negotiations not that his opinion wasn't heavily, involved BUT i
46:20
Speaker 1: don't think he was with the day to day. Operations
46:23
Speaker 1: he went all in when they started getting The leads
46:26
Speaker 1: team and get involved in, soccer AND i remember talking
46:30
Speaker 1: to him about it a long time. Ago i'd be,
46:32
Speaker 1: like what's this. Like he's, like think about it like
46:34
Speaker 1: a brand that you, know like a like a college
46:38
Speaker 1: sports team that is like undervalued that if they get
46:41
Speaker 1: the right, coach you can turn the thing around and it's.
46:44
Speaker 1: Powerful look At indiana, right look at you, KNOW, Usc
46:49
Speaker 1: it's like it's basically a valued asset that is. Down
46:52
Speaker 1: and they went all in On leads and that that
46:55
Speaker 1: is a huge important venture obviously led by, Him but
47:00
Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers ownership and in my dealings With,
47:04
Speaker 1: Progue i've always thought he was really really, impressive clearly
47:07
Speaker 1: really really. SMART i Mean i've asked him business advice.
47:09
Speaker 1: Before so he's not leaving The. Niners he's just under their.
47:14
Speaker 1: Umbrella they do other shit and he's just taking. Part Brian,
47:17
Speaker 1: hampton WHO i think interned For prague in two thousand and,
47:20
Speaker 1: three is kind Of i'm sure going to do more
47:24
Speaker 1: of that. Role. LISTEN i have nothing Against questi, PERSONALLY
47:29
Speaker 1: i just think he belongs with the numbers and keep
47:32
Speaker 1: them away from the. Evaluations now you could also, argue, Hey,
47:37
Speaker 1: kyle let's Get kyle And questy in a. Room who
47:40
Speaker 1: do you guys want to draft in the first? Round?
47:42
Speaker 1: Whoever they, say we just picked the. Opposite maybe maybe
47:46
Speaker 1: we could do that be an easier way to, Draft
47:49
Speaker 1: BUT i don't think. It's it's one thing when a
47:52
Speaker 1: guy just leaves your organization and you no longer have
47:56
Speaker 1: him as a sounding. Board he's still. AROUND i saw
47:58
Speaker 1: him when me And jackson were the. COMBINE i Saw
48:01
Speaker 1: prague meeting with somebody at you, know one of the
48:04
Speaker 1: hotel kind of bar lobby. Areas SO i think it's
48:09
Speaker 1: probably sounds a little crazier than it actually. Is, AGAIN
48:12
Speaker 1: i don't have inside information with the actual, move but
48:17
Speaker 1: he's not leaving the forty nine ers business. OPERATION i
48:21
Speaker 1: also think the negotiation, part you, know football used to
48:26
Speaker 1: be separate from basketball or, baseball like you can still
48:29
Speaker 1: get over on great. Players does that happen? Anymore it
48:34
Speaker 1: doesn't really feel like. It maybe you can save five
48:38
Speaker 1: ten million dollars here or, there but high End Christal
48:42
Speaker 1: lobby's got ninety million. Dollars Jalen, carter WHO i think
48:47
Speaker 1: still is for a great talent and a guy that
48:49
Speaker 1: could be a five Time All, pro still a lot
48:53
Speaker 1: of question. Marks just got a huge. Extension like someone
48:58
Speaker 1: told me this a couple of years. Ago THE nfl
49:01
Speaker 1: has gotten and part of it's just the big business
49:03
Speaker 1: nature of. It more player not quite player empowerment like THE,
49:10
Speaker 1: Nba but it's not twenty years AGO nfl where the
49:14
Speaker 1: owners and management just got The benji. Over there is
49:17
Speaker 1: a push and pull that there is the agents and
49:21
Speaker 1: the players get a lot of what they. Want when
49:24
Speaker 1: it's a good, player they have a lot of. Juice
49:28
Speaker 1: SO I i just don't think, that you, know in
49:32
Speaker 1: CONTRACT i Think Howie Ord John schneider are viewed as
49:38
Speaker 1: really good. Gms not because it ain't necessarily like wheel
49:41
Speaker 1: and deal on contracts like he Paid Jalen hurts a
49:44
Speaker 1: ton of, money, Right he's paid a lot of money
49:46
Speaker 1: to a lot of. Players it's more the moves LIKE
49:49
Speaker 1: i trade this, GUY i trade these picks for that.
49:51
Speaker 1: GUY i trade up in the draft OR i trade
49:53
Speaker 1: back in the. Draft it's more maneuvering like, That you're
49:56
Speaker 1: gonna spend a ton of money on players no matter.
49:58
Speaker 1: What right you might get lucky here and there of like,
50:02
Speaker 1: yeah we kind of found this undervalued. Asset how he
50:05
Speaker 1: did Was Zach bond a couple of years, ago and
50:07
Speaker 1: then they paid him a lot of. Money so it's
50:09
Speaker 1: like because he got expensive so the day and age
50:13
Speaker 1: of like, god they got that guy for like four
50:15
Speaker 1: years seven million. Dollars, no that's Why belichick couldn't function the.
50:19
Speaker 1: League it's Like, belichick no one's coming to you for cheap,
50:22
Speaker 1: anymore especially when the state you play in wants to
50:24
Speaker 1: fucking tax him at every dollar they're bringing, In, like,
50:27
Speaker 1: no you gotta pay top flight. Money so Even bill
50:30
Speaker 1: had to do. That, remember its, Like, God bill spend
50:32
Speaker 1: a lot of. Money he had no. Choice is the
50:34
Speaker 1: only way to get. Players my wife overheard me listening
50:50
Speaker 1: to your pod and ask is he just talking to?
50:53
Speaker 1: Himself i'd say in most guy girl, relationships the woman
50:59
Speaker 1: tends to talk. More is that the case in your?
51:03
Speaker 1: Relationship have you always had the gift of? Gab is
51:06
Speaker 1: there anything you can't hold the conversation? About seems like
51:10
Speaker 1: a great, gift especially when you need to meet new.
51:12
Speaker 1: People the irony Is i'm kind of introverted As i've gotten,
51:17
Speaker 1: older so it's LIKE i don't always want to. SOCIALIZE
51:22
Speaker 1: i think part of my. Job, Yeah i'm just talking
51:25
Speaker 1: to myself into a computer right. Now it's literally WHAT
51:28
Speaker 1: i do for a, living which IS i feel very. Fortunate,
51:31
Speaker 1: also sometimes when you kind of put it in perspective
51:33
Speaker 1: and really think about, it it's, Like, god this is
51:36
Speaker 1: kind of. Weird, yeah JUST i can talk a, lot
51:41
Speaker 1: BUT i also do. It you, know it's easy to get.
51:44
Speaker 1: Motivated this is this is HOW i feed my. Family
51:47
Speaker 1: but SOMETIMES i want no part of. Talking AND i
51:50
Speaker 1: think sometimes when you do, this you, know you're just
51:53
Speaker 1: exhausted from. Talking and if you are at the office
51:57
Speaker 1: or you're recording podcasts and you come in and she
52:00
Speaker 1: just wants to talk about life or whatever's going, on
52:03
Speaker 1: you just. HAVE i just. Have sometimes you Get i've
52:06
Speaker 1: been very very cognitive of this since the baby's been.
52:10
Speaker 1: Born you just got to suck it up and talk
52:13
Speaker 1: a little. Bit so, YEAH i MEAN I i just
52:17
Speaker 1: think we're wired a lot different than women, sometimes like
52:21
Speaker 1: about just talking about our feelings or expressing ourselves. Emotionally you,
52:25
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't need you, know, Listen it's not the
52:28
Speaker 1: most healthy thing by any, Means but for someone who
52:30
Speaker 1: literally talks for a, LIVING i never have to talk
52:33
Speaker 1: about anything. Once i'm not doing this now, obviously If i'm,
52:36
Speaker 1: socializing having having a few, cocktails, YEAH i can get.
52:40
Speaker 1: TALKING i actually really need to work on becoming a better.
52:42
Speaker 1: LISTENER i Think i've been doing this so long now
52:45
Speaker 1: and talking to. Myself it's it's it's a skill that
52:49
Speaker 1: has deteriorated for, me not a great, listener and it's gotten.
52:53
Speaker 1: Worse so, YEAH i MEAN i can't not much ELSE
52:59
Speaker 1: i can. Do SO i don't know if it's a
53:01
Speaker 1: gift That i've had. FOREVER i JUST i talk about sports.
53:05
Speaker 1: Football but your wife is. Correct i'm just talking to.
53:10
Speaker 1: Myself but isn't that what all podcasts are doing unless
53:14
Speaker 1: you're interviewing somebody OR i have a co. HOST i
53:16
Speaker 1: guess next Week Fugazi friday should Be Major League baseball
53:20
Speaker 1: on The. DODGERS i really just don't blame The. Dodgers
53:25
Speaker 1: where's everybody? Else how is this their? Fault how is
53:28
Speaker 1: this their? FAULT i, mean anyone could have traded better
53:32
Speaker 1: prospects for? Him, Well, john they only would have had
53:34
Speaker 1: him for three four. Months who? CARES i was in
53:37
Speaker 1: the car the other day we finished playing. GOLF i
53:40
Speaker 1: got in the. CAR i was flipping around Channels SERIES,
53:43
Speaker 1: xm and there was an interview WITH Cc sabathia and
53:47
Speaker 1: he told the story about when he got traded to
53:49
Speaker 1: The Milwaukee. Brewers he was a rental. PLAYER i think
53:53
Speaker 1: they lost in the was it THE. Nlcs it was
53:57
Speaker 1: a really big. Deal it was a peak of his.
53:58
Speaker 1: Powers then he got a huge tract to go to The.
54:00
Speaker 1: Yankees used to happen all the time where teams would
54:05
Speaker 1: kind of sell out for a guy that they knew
54:06
Speaker 1: they probably couldn't resign or maybe hope to. Resign that
54:10
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. ANYMORE a lot of people's theorizing that there's
54:14
Speaker 1: collusion by the, owners thinking they wanted The dodgers to
54:18
Speaker 1: get this dude so that it can work in their
54:22
Speaker 1: benefit to try to push for the salary. CAP i
54:25
Speaker 1: can't even, Comprehend LIKE i this notion that A pr
54:33
Speaker 1: campaign like you get a root for the billionaires or
54:35
Speaker 1: one hundred. MILLIONAIRES i don't think anyone gives a. Shit
54:38
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, six we got way too much going.
54:40
Speaker 1: On just play the fucking, games figure it. OUT i
54:44
Speaker 1: think about the same thing with college football nil, Conference
54:47
Speaker 1: LIKE i don't really. CARE i don't care how much kids.
54:50
Speaker 1: MAKE i don't care salary cap. NIL i don't care revenue.
54:53
Speaker 1: SHARING i don't care if you. Unionize just stop talking
54:55
Speaker 1: about it and play the fucking. Games just whatever THE
54:58
Speaker 1: nfl is, doing try to figure out a way to
55:01
Speaker 1: implement some of those policies so you're not playing po
55:05
Speaker 1: DUNK u week one and pretend it, Matters, like can
55:09
Speaker 1: we get away from? That can we just figure it?
55:11
Speaker 1: Out just figure it? Out and the answer doesn't feel
55:15
Speaker 1: like they're going TO i played golf with a guy
55:19
Speaker 1: who was on the ninety Four. Braves Bill, pakota said
55:23
Speaker 1: the strike hit and it was like his tenth year
55:25
Speaker 1: in the big. LEAGUES i ended my. Career i'm, like
55:28
Speaker 1: that's pretty. Crazy it just. ENDED i remember that year
55:31
Speaker 1: because The giants they Had Barry, bonds they were really,
55:32
Speaker 1: good and the season just, ended just went. Away he's
55:36
Speaker 1: like The colin thought, today there's no way a strike
55:39
Speaker 1: or a lockout would take the season away for the,
55:43
Speaker 1: year because that's what a lot of people have been
55:44
Speaker 1: theorizing that baseball in twenty twenty seven will not. HAPPEN
55:50
Speaker 1: i would tend to. Agree there's just too much money
55:52
Speaker 1: in the. Line so if you're just a player making
55:55
Speaker 1: twenty five thirty forty fifty million. Dollars you're just gonna
55:58
Speaker 1: be like draw a line in sand for the, children
56:03
Speaker 1: for the. Future humans are inherently, selfish and when you're
56:07
Speaker 1: talking that much, MONEY i don't. KNOW i have a
56:10
Speaker 1: hard time think of. This it's, like, yeah just LIKE
56:12
Speaker 1: i have a hard time thinking the owners won't capitulate
56:15
Speaker 1: a little. Bit you're just gonna have an empty park
56:17
Speaker 1: for eighty one. Games you're just gonna make no, Revenue
56:21
Speaker 1: just do, zero make no. Revenue hard time seeing that
56:25
Speaker 1: one happen. Too BUT i who. Knows i'm not. PUTTING
56:30
Speaker 1: i wouldn't bet on either either. Outcome everything's clearly on the.
56:34
Speaker 1: TABLE i just know. This it's. Exhausting just just just
56:38
Speaker 1: figure it. Out Big bills Fan Love Joe. Brady this
56:45
Speaker 1: is from my Wife's. Instagram sometimes you gotta be there's
56:48
Speaker 1: nothing no better feeling if we're like Scrolling, instagram because
56:51
Speaker 1: my wife sends me a bunch of, stuff and then
56:53
Speaker 1: sometimes she'll be, like let's look through WHAT i sent you.
56:56
Speaker 1: Today So i'll flip open and write above her name
56:59
Speaker 1: will be like some blue check, mark some, girl and
57:03
Speaker 1: it's just like. THIS i just get, dudes the DM
57:06
Speaker 1: me so you got to open. It you. Know it's, like,
57:07
Speaker 1: hey this Is james from you, Know. Buffalo this is
57:15
Speaker 1: his wife's account and that's exactly what this. Is it's
57:20
Speaker 1: pretty clear this, girl you, know pop this PHOTO a
57:23
Speaker 1: Big bills, fan Love Joe, brady hype For Jim, leonard
57:26
Speaker 1: good things. Ahead one of my concerns Regarding, brady how
57:29
Speaker 1: big a deal is it that he used to call
57:31
Speaker 1: the offense from upstairs to now being down on the.
57:34
Speaker 1: Field seems like no one has really mentioned it feels
57:38
Speaker 1: like a huge. Transition, also what do you think of
57:41
Speaker 1: this partlay one hundred and eighty to pay over ten?
57:44
Speaker 1: Thousand The, bills The, bengals The, bears and The chargers
57:52
Speaker 1: don't hate. IT I i think The bills. Are i'd
57:59
Speaker 1: be stunned at The bills win the. Division The bengals
58:03
Speaker 1: is just the thing that makes you. Nervous is just
58:05
Speaker 1: health THE Nfc north in THE afs OR, theeah the The,
58:10
Speaker 1: bears The. Lions that division is, hard uh and not
58:15
Speaker 1: same thing with The. Chargers you Know, denver did you
58:17
Speaker 1: guys see the the drone That denver posted their new practice.
58:23
Speaker 1: Facility oh my, God walmart is making this pract facility
58:30
Speaker 1: is just just google. It just watch the drone fly
58:36
Speaker 1: through The Denver bronco new practic. Facility it. Is it's
58:41
Speaker 1: an eye. Opener it's, Like, god that would be a
58:43
Speaker 1: sweet place to. Work don't donate the parlay at. All to,
58:49
Speaker 1: me if you're gonna do, divisions like if you're gonna
58:53
Speaker 1: put one hundred bucks or two hundred, BUCKS i have
58:55
Speaker 1: way more fun doing that than doing like a grand
59:00
Speaker 1: on The bengals to win it at plus two hundred
59:03
Speaker 1: and have to wait all. Season LIKE i would rather
59:06
Speaker 1: do less, money do the parlays and have a way bigger.
59:09
Speaker 1: Return so even if you, lose it's not like you're
59:13
Speaker 1: losing that much to. Me if you have to put
59:16
Speaker 1: a lot to kind of win a, lot whatever that
59:18
Speaker 1: number five hundred, Dollars if your number of a big
59:21
Speaker 1: amount is five hundred dollars or one thousand dollars or two,
59:24
Speaker 1: FIFTY i think you're better off putting twenty five dollars
59:27
Speaker 1: or fifty dollars or one hundred dollars on a several
59:30
Speaker 1: team parlay and give yourself a little. Action it's it's
59:33
Speaker 1: just more, entertaining and then if you, lose you don't
59:35
Speaker 1: feel as bad because. Divisions for Every patriot that win the,
59:41
Speaker 1: division like nineteen out of twenty, years most of these
59:45
Speaker 1: divisions haven't flow pretty all the. Time that's a good
59:50
Speaker 1: question On brady from the. Booth probably not. NOTHING i
59:56
Speaker 1: will say that during the year he's calling all the
1:00:00
Speaker 1: stuff in practice on the. Sideline so it's not one
1:00:05
Speaker 1: of those Where i'm trying to think of a of
1:00:08
Speaker 1: like an. Analogy it's not that drastic of a. CHANGE
1:00:12
Speaker 1: i don't think you definitely have a different, view. Right
1:00:16
Speaker 1: it's no different than sitting in the second level if
1:00:18
Speaker 1: you're a fan watching the game where you have a great,
1:00:20
Speaker 1: view and sitting down on the, field assuming that you
1:00:24
Speaker 1: were able to, see it's a completely different way of watching.
1:00:26
Speaker 1: Football you can't often see the other. Side you get
1:00:30
Speaker 1: a much more macro version up in the. Booth you.
1:00:34
Speaker 1: Know fangio's a good, example, Right fanjo's a defensive coordinator
1:00:37
Speaker 1: that's very comfortable with calling the defense up in the.
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Speaker 1: Booth Brian flores is the. Sola they like being on the.
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Speaker 1: Field we're all comfortable in whatever we do for a,
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Speaker 1: living doing things a certain. Way but sometimes you got
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Speaker 1: to get out of your comfort level and. Adapt it's
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Speaker 1: clearly possible because look how many head coaches are the
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Speaker 1: play callers and are ALL. Adye reed is one of
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Speaker 1: the great offensive coordinators of all time right in his
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Speaker 1: twenty five years Of colin plays, McVeigh, Shanahan, lafleur, O'Connell Ben,
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Speaker 1: Field so not only is it, POSSIBLE i do think
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Speaker 1: it's something you can get comfortable doing pretty. Fast i'm
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Speaker 1: pretty Sure Kyle shanahan used to sit up in the
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Speaker 1: box before he became a head. Coach i'm sure The
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Speaker 1: lafloors have been up in the box. Before they definitely.
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Speaker 1: Have so IT'S i don't think it's that big a.
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Speaker 1: DEAL i really. Don't and at the end of the,
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Speaker 1: day he doesn't have a, choice so maybe it's maybe
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Speaker 1: a little bumpy for a game or. Two the other
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Speaker 1: thing is he's not dealing like him And Josh allen
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Speaker 1: have been working together for a long. Time so let's
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Speaker 1: say he doesn't see something like he used to see,
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Speaker 1: it he could have the ears and eyes of his
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Speaker 1: players boom right there. Here thanks for the questions, audio
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