Latest / Soul Salon with Ayandastood / 28: palestinian liberation, decolonization, resistance poems, & resources
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- 0:00Hello, my loves. My heart is so heavy today. And I know many of yours are as well. And I was thinking,
- 0:09what can I do? And in this space, I wanted to do three things. First, I want to share my personal
- 0:20connection or feelings on the cause of Palestinian liberation. Second, I want to read you poetry
- 0:28in honor of the idea that poetry can pierce through to the heart of, to the feeling of an
- 0:37experience. And that is informed by Audrey Lord's essay, poetry is not a luxury. And so I'm going to
- 0:45include some clips of Palestinian poets reading their own words. And for the poems where I couldn't
- 0:53find clips, I will read it in my own voice. And the third thing I want to do is amplify resources,
- 1:00places we can learn, places we can donate for parts of our community who can do that. So those are
- 1:05the three things that I want to accomplish in this episode. Share my own connection, share poetry
- 1:12and share resources. So starting with my own connection, I am a Black South African. I was born in
- 1:201995, which is one year after South Africa had its first democratically held election. And
- 1:28the ANC became the first democratically elected government and ended the apartheid regime in name,
- 1:37I will say, because much of the institutions and the frameworks and the setup of apartheid of
- 1:43inequality remain. And South Africa is one of the most unequal nations in the world. However,
- 1:51that was a huge accomplishment in terms of a liberation struggle. And something that I have noticed
- 2:00in my past 10 years living in the US is from that perspective. There is a pervasive idea among many
- 2:06people that it was sanctions or the international community that was really the end of apartheid.
- 2:14And there is less of a confrontation among especially white people that I've noticed that apartheid
- 2:22ended because of an armed struggle. Choose peace rather than confrontation except in cases where we
- 2:31cannot proceed, then if the only alternative is violence, we will use violence.
- 2:42That they called Nelson Mandela a terrorist and that the organization that ended apartheid,
- 2:52the name was Umkonto Aseezwe, born in the early 60s as the ANC's military wing.
- 3:01It generally became known as MK, its translation meaning spear of the nation.
- 3:10And was essentially the third stage in the anti-apartheid struggle.
- 3:14Passive resistance had given rise to a civil disobedience campaign.
- 3:21But that all changed when Henrik Fervord's government said it would use maximum force to silence
- 3:28any notion of a liberation movement. So in that vein, I would not be here if it weren't for
- 3:38a violent liberation struggle. And with that I want to say the following, we can never conflate
- 3:45the violence of colonialism with the violence employed as a tool or a mechanism to oppose colonialism.
- 3:55To conflate those two things, to compare them, to put them on the same level, to say things like
- 3:59there are two sides to this story. It is a complete abomination. They are not the same.
- 4:07I want to play you this eight-minute clip from Palestinian-American journalist Dina Takaruri
- 4:14because it gives context on the situation and on the disproportionate violence and terror that
- 4:20the Israeli state has inflicted on Palestinians. So if you are not looking to learn more context
- 4:25on the situation, but instead would rather go to the poems and so on, skip ahead by eight minutes
- 4:30and I'll see you there. A lot of the condemnation of the Hamas attack has called it unprovoked,
- 4:36but is that accurate? Now the purpose here isn't to condone or justify it. It's to understand
- 4:43why it happened because if we don't, then it's more likely that we'll see this happening over
- 4:47and over again. While things may have been calm and normal for Israelis until then, for Palestinians,
- 4:53daily life was intolerable pain. In fact, for sixteen years Gaza has been under an Israeli siege
- 4:59so severe that it's often called the world's largest open-air prison. The Secretary General of the
- 5:05United Nations has described Gaza as hell on earth. And way back in 2012, the UN warned that if
- 5:12Israel's policies in Gaza didn't change, this tiny strip of land that's one of the most densely
- 5:17populated places on earth would become unfit for human living by 2020. It's now 2023.
- 5:24And in fact, analysts who had been paying attention were trying to sound the alarm
- 5:28that things were getting worse, that the status quo was getting more and more untenable,
- 5:33that an explosion was inevitable. The siege began when Hamas took over Gaza in 2007 a year after
- 5:41winning the Palestinian Authority elections. You see, Hamas was founded in Gaza in the late 1980s,
- 5:4620 years into Israel's occupation of the territory. The group has a military wing, but it's also a
- 5:52political party. Its stated goal is to liberate all of Palestine and the return of Palestinian refugees
- 5:58exile during Israel's founding in 1948. And it has always said that the only way to achieve that
- 6:04goal is to fight. For the 2.3 million Palestinians who live in Gaza, the 16-year siege means that
- 6:10Israel controls basically everything about their lives. And it has created a humanitarian catastrophe
- 6:16for them. The economy is devastated because Israel limits Gaza's trade with the outside world,
- 6:21leaving most of the population unemployed. The health sector has also been in crisis, with
- 6:26medicines frequently running out, and patients denied Israeli permits to leave for life-saving
- 6:30healthcare. And electricity only lasts a few hours a day because Israel limits the amount of fuel
- 6:36let into Gaza. At one point, official documents showed that Israel calculated the number of calories
- 6:42allowed into Gaza, just enough to keep people from starving. Nearly half of Gaza's population is
- 6:49under 18. That means most of the people living there have never been able to leave Gaza. They've
- 6:54never stepped foot in Jerusalem or met a fellow Palestinian from the occupied West Bank. And they've
- 6:59survived several major attacks, leaving them with unimaginable trauma. Tens of thousands of
- 7:05homes and buildings were targeted and destroyed by Israel during these assaults, which left thousands
- 7:10of Palestinians dead. For example, in the summer of 2014 alone, at least 2,100 Palestinians,
- 7:16including at least 500 children were killed by Israeli bombardment. In that conflict, 72 Israelis
- 7:22were killed 66 of them soldiers. Despite some international criticism, Israel has never faced serious
- 7:29calls to end its siege on Gaza. In 2018, tens of thousands of gossips tried to break the siege by
- 7:36marching non-violent onto the boundary fence with Israel every Friday for almost two years.
- 7:42They were met with gunfire. For weeks, Israeli soldiers shot at those attempted to get close,
- 7:47resulting in hundreds of deaths and thousands of injuries, including medics and journalists.
- 7:52Even before Hamas took control of Gaza, Israel had subjected the territory to a closure since the
- 7:571990s. This meant that Palestinians could rarely enter or exit Gaza unless they had a rare Israeli
- 8:03permit. This policy is part of a larger Israeli military occupation of Gaza and the West Bank that's
- 8:09now lasted more than half a century. Multiple human rights groups around the world have found that
- 8:14Israel actually runs a system of apartheid with separate laws for Israelis and Palestinians.
- 8:20Ultimately, this means that Israel is a state that based on ethnicity denies citizenship and
- 8:25rights to the millions of people over which it rules, i.e. the Palestinians. Under international
- 8:30law, Israel's occupation, which is now in its 56th year, is illegal, and apartheid is a crime
- 8:36against humanity. Meanwhile, the occupied West Bank is ruled by Hamas' political rival, the
- 8:41Palestinian Authority, which rejects confrontation with Israel hoping to end the occupation through
- 8:46US-led peace talks. But since those peace talks began 30 years ago, Israel has only expanded its
- 8:52illegal settlements on Palestinian land, and the occupation has become more entrenched. Time and time
- 8:57again, Palestinians have seen that negotiations, peaceful marches, and other nonviolent means of
- 9:02protests have not gotten them any closer to achieving freedom and rights. In the meantime, the overall
- 9:08situation for Palestinians living under Israel's occupation has steadily gotten worse.
- 9:13The current Netanyahu government, the most right-wing and anti-Arab in Israel's history,
- 9:18includes leaders who have openly called for the renewed ethnic cleansing of Palestinians,
- 9:23and the destruction of entire Palestinian towns. In 2023 alone, they've incited several
- 9:29attacks on Palestinian villages in the West Bank, attacks that even Israeli observers referred
- 9:35to as pogroms, referring to the anti-Semitic rampages suffered by Jews in Eastern Europe.
- 9:41Armed Israeli settlers smashed homes, burned cars, and set fire to fields. When Palestinians try
- 9:47to defend their property, Israeli forces shot at them, both with live fire and rubber-coated
- 9:52bullets, as well as tear gas. Israeli politicians and settlers have also repeatedly entered the
- 9:57Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem, the third-holious site in Islam, where Israeli forces have attacked
- 10:02Palestinian worshippers. By the way, they've been open about their attempts to destroy the mosque
- 10:08and build a new Jewish temple atop it. And the number of Palestinians killed by Israeli soldiers
- 10:13and settlers in the West Bank hit a 20-year high in 2023. The scale of the Hamas attack was
- 10:20unprecedented in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. While dist and misinformation has spread widely
- 10:26in the aftermath about precisely what happened, there's no doubt that Israeli civilians were targeted.
- 10:31It's important to remember that Israel has one of the best-equipped militaries in the world and
- 10:36the backing of many Western governments. That's why it's always been able to inflict far more death
- 10:41on Palestinians than vice versa. This has been the case ever since the state was founded in 1948,
- 10:47when it used that force to expel most Palestinians from their homes in what became Israel. In fact,
- 10:52around two-thirds of people who live in Gaza are refugees or their descendants. Many of them come
- 10:57from towns and villages just across the boundary fence. Some of those villages, now with Hebrew names
- 11:03and Israeli residents, were among the areas where Hamas fighters entered and attacked. Back in Gaza,
- 11:08things look apocalyptic. Israel's defense minister has ordered fuel, electricity, and even water
- 11:15to be cut off, saying his government is dealing with, quote, human beasts. The only power plant in Gaza
- 11:21has officially run out of fuel, leaving 2.3 million people with no electricity and in the dark.
- 11:26With fighter jets, artillery, and warships under his command, it's expected that the already
- 11:31massive Palestinian death toll is only going to climb. Also, keep in mind that Gaza's under a
- 11:36blockade, which means when the bombs drop, Palestinians are trapped there with nowhere to flee and no
- 11:42bomb shelters to go to. Israel had previously launched large-scale wars against Hamas and Gaza in
- 11:482008, 2012, 2014, and 2021, with the stated goal of stopping Hamas. But while these wars inflicted
- 11:56catastrophic damage on Gaza's civilian population and infrastructure, they clearly did not stop Hamas.
- 12:02A military solution has not worked. Israeli journalist Gideon Levy just wrote in Harat,
- 12:08Israel can't imprison 2 million gozans without paying a cruel price. And Levy is on to something.
- 12:14What's missing in all of this context is the root cause of it all, a deeply violent apartheid
- 12:19system, and an occupation that robs Palestinians of their land, freedom, and rights to self-determination.
- 12:25Meanwhile, the world does a little to push Israel to end this system. And instead,
- 12:29often provides it with the aid and cover to maintain it instead.
- 12:34Stealing people's land, oppressing them, humiliating them, terrorizing them every single day,
- 12:40at every scale of terror when you think of the checkpoints in Palestine. They may last minutes or
- 12:46they may last hours robbing people of time, battering them, humiliating them, depriving them of
- 12:55resources, depriving them of freedom of movement on their own homelands.
- 13:01I am against violence in and of itself the idea of violence. But I'm against the root of violence.
- 13:09If you're against something, it makes sense to be against it at its root.
- 13:14And the root of violence is colonialism, is supremacy. We cannot have freedom until we end
- 13:22every single form of supremacy. And what we see is unless we have an absolute commitment to
- 13:29ending supremacy, all we will see is more and more replicas, more and more manifestations of
- 13:36the same root problem, which is one people with all the resources and all the backing,
- 13:41exploiting and colonizing another. So I'm never going to celebrate violence enacted upon people.
- 13:49But at the same time, I'm never going to conflate the struggle to liberate a people, which the
- 13:55colonizer has made so impossible that violence becomes one of the only mechanisms that makes people
- 14:01notice. The other thing I want to really oppose is the dehumanization of Palestinians,
- 14:08the way that they are spoken about and the complete disregard for Palestinian life.
- 14:13The fact that when for 70 years, Palestinians have been bombed, have been abused, terrorized,
- 14:21have literally been traumatized. They can't even call it PTSD because it's not post,
- 14:25have been a constant, in a constant state of trauma that that has not even been flickered and
- 14:33eyelid at. I don't even know the saying battered and eyelid at an eyelash. I don't know the words.
- 14:39And so we rarely get a glimpse just like white supremacy of whose life is seen as really mattering.
- 14:46So the idea of the Israeli military state and the violence that it enacted upon Palestinians,
- 14:54it's unacceptable and it's inhumane, it is genocidal, it is ethnic cleansing.
- 15:00And yet it feels so dangerous to admit that. So it's deeply painful to see 70 years
- 15:09of complete terrorism against Palestinians by the Israeli occupation forces or defense forces
- 15:17and the complete disregard of Palestinian life. It's the same textbook thing that happens again
- 15:25and again, which is the dehumanization of a people because you wanted the land that that people
- 15:30were on. And forcibly removing people from their lands, traumatizing them again and again,
- 15:37putting them into open air prisons. That is the true, that is the root. It's like you can't,
- 15:44you see a thorny flower and you say, oh my god, look at that terrible flower. You have to be against
- 15:49the root in my mind. And you can be against both, but there has to be a hierarchy of what you are
- 15:56principally condemning. And the principle thing I believe I must condemn is colonial violence,
- 16:03is settler colonialism, is genocide, is ethnic cleansing, is a part date. From that root,
- 16:11violence will flow. It's a natural conclusion of terrorizing people is that they will find a way
- 16:19to fight back. And it is in their right to fight back because you've given them no other option,
- 16:25but to be placed in the dehumanizing position where they must enact violence on people
- 16:30in order to defend the literal land that they were already on. That is the dehumanization to put
- 16:35people in a position where they have where they have to fight to the death for their own liberation.
- 16:41And that is the cause of people have to be willing to die. No one should have to be willing to die
- 16:46in order to be free, in order to experience the fullness of what their land and their lives
- 16:53had to offer them and their people and their communities. And even the way that the violence is
- 16:59spoken about, like Palestinians are not seen as grandparents and children and mothers,
- 17:04it's just like animals. It's so dehumanizing. And that's exactly what they did in South Africa.
- 17:10We were not seen as black people. We were not seen as human. We were seen as subhuman,
- 17:17as animal, as beasts, as people to be exploited, belittled, diminished. There is a really powerful
- 17:25paper that I read today that I've been meaning to read for a very long time and it's called
- 17:30decolonization is not a metaphor. You might have seen these words on your social media feeds.
- 17:37If you really let these words sit with you, you will feel their power.
- 17:42Because decolonization is not a metaphor, means that it's not a framework to understand or speak
- 17:51about or assess or analyze something. It's not a theory to discuss and to critique and to put forth.
- 18:02It's a practice. It's not a metaphor. It's a process. And what this paper discusses
- 18:11is that it is necessarily a deeply unsettling process. That a lot of academics and theorists and
- 18:20liberals want to ignore the actual demands of true decolonization, which are inherently very,
- 18:30very unsettling. In the sense that number one, it will make a lot of people feel unsettled.
- 18:37And number two, it's literally unsettling in that so many people in the world in the West
- 18:44are living on stolen land. They may not have been the one to steal it, but they are living on
- 18:48indigenous land. So it is unsettling in that if we really are to decolonize, there would no longer
- 18:54be settlers on that land. The land would all be repatriated to indigenous people. And yet when
- 19:01people really sit with what that would mean, it's deeply unsettling. And they say that it is
- 19:06necessarily so. And so many people are not willing to sit with the fact that the actual process of
- 19:12decolonizing or of re-indigionizing, as I learned from a conversation I had with Trinity,
- 19:18if you're listening to this, it was an incredible conversation where she taught me that when we say
- 19:23decolonize, we're still centering the colonizer, yet when we say re-indigionize, we're speaking
- 19:30about centering the indigenous person who has been rubbed from their land, from their language,
- 19:37from their peace, from their well-being. You know, we were well before the colonizers came. We
- 19:42often don't talk about how health was so centered in a much more indigenous way before the
- 19:52colonizers came and brought so many diseases and traumas and violence. So the idea that decolonization
- 20:02is not a metaphor, it teaches us that if we really are committed to decolonization, we have to
- 20:08sit with the fact that as France finances, it is always a violent process. And even I, as I say
- 20:14those words, I'm unsettled. Of course I am. That's deeply unsettling. Like no one is just like,
- 20:19woo-hoo, but at the root of it, if that is the goal, to remove the colonial empire, the structure,
- 20:25the imperialist structure that exists, that exists in Puerto Rico, that exists in Haiti, Palestine,
- 20:32in so many parts of the world, then sitting with that unsettling feeling is actually more truthful.
- 20:40With that idea of feeling, I want to go into part two of this conversation, which is on poetry.
- 20:46There's a wonderful essay by Audrey Lord called Poetry is Not a Luxury. And I want to read you a
- 20:52paragraph from that essay from Audrey Lord. Poetry is not a luxury. It is a vital necessity of our
- 21:01existence. It forms the quality of the light within which we predicate our hopes and dreams
- 21:08towards survival and change. First, made into language, then into idea, then into more tangible
- 21:17action. Poetry is the way we help give name to the nameless, so it can be thought.
- 21:25The farthest horizons of our hopes and fears are cobbled by our poems carved from the rock
- 21:32experiences of our daily lives. As they become known to and accepted by us, our feelings and the
- 21:42honest exploration of them become sanctuaries and spawning grounds for the most radical and daring
- 21:51of ideas. The white father told us, I think therefore I am the black mother within each of us,
- 22:01the poet whispers in our dreams. I feel therefore I can be free. For within living structures
- 22:13defined by profit, by linear power, by institutional dehumanization, our feelings were not meant
- 22:22to survive. I think that is so powerful and what that teaches us is we need to center feeling.
- 22:31And actually that ties so wonderfully to the idea of re-indigenization. That the colonizer came and
- 22:38said, we are the thinking ones, we are the rational ones. And we could say, well, what did the
- 22:43indigenous people say? And there's an essentialization of indigenarity. They said many things,
- 22:50their ways of thinking of seeing what you raised. And also so were their way of feeling, our way of
- 22:56feeling. And so poetry is not a luxury. It is a necessity. And she's not defining poetry only in
- 23:03the strictest sense of it, but anything she says that reveals distills, experience through language.
- 23:13I want to listen to this poem with you. And the poem is by Canadian Palestinian poet Rafith
- 23:20Ziadah. Before we start this poem, please note that it does involve brief mention of the
- 23:27R word. So if you would rather not hear that, please give forward by four minutes until the end of the
- 23:33poem. I wrote this poem when we were doing a direct action at my university. And there were
- 23:42Palestinian citizens and Israeli soldiers and young. And I'm very petty about these things. So I
- 23:48said, I will only be a Palestinian. I refused to be a settler or a soldier. So I was lying on the
- 23:53ground. And this guy came and kicked me in the guts and said, you deserve to be raped before
- 23:58you have your terrorist children. At the time I said nothing, but then I wrote this poem for this young
- 24:03gentleman. It's mahalian. I speak my Arab tongue before they occupy my language as well.
- 24:17Allow me to speak my mother tongue before they colonize her memory as well. I am an Arab woman of
- 24:29color and we come in all shades of anger. All my grandfather ever wanted to do was wake up at
- 24:38dawn and watch my grandmother kneel and pray in a village hidden between Yafa and Haifa. My mother
- 24:45was born under an olive tree on a soil they say is no longer mine, but I will cross their barriers,
- 24:51their checkpoints, their dam apartheid walls, and return to my homeland. I am an Arab woman of color
- 24:59and we come in all shades of anger. And did you hear my sister screaming yesterday as she gave
- 25:05birth at a checkpoint with Israeli soldiers looking between her legs for their next demographic
- 25:11threat called her baby girl Jeanine. And did you hear Amni Mona screaming behind their prison
- 25:16bars as they tear gased herself? We are returning to fall asleep. I am an Arab woman of color and
- 25:23we come in all shades of anger, but you tell me this womb inside of me will only bring you your
- 25:29next terrorist, beard wearing, gun waving, towel head, sand nigger. You tell me I sent my children out
- 25:37to die, but those are your copters, your f-16s in our skies. And let's talk about this terrorism
- 25:44business for a second. Wasn't it the CIA that killed the land de Andlamumba? And who trained
- 25:49a summer in the first place? My grandparents didn't run around like clowns with white capes
- 25:56and white hoods on their heads lynching black people. I am an Arab woman of color and we come
- 26:06in all shades of anger. So who's that brown woman screaming in a demonstration? Sorry, should I
- 26:14not scream? I forgot to be your every orientalist dream. Jeannie in a bottle, belly dancer,
- 26:20param girl, soft spoken, Arab woman, yes master, no master. Thank you for the peanut butter sandwich
- 26:28is raining down on us from your f-16s master. Yes, my liberators are here to kill my children and
- 26:34call them collateral damage. I am an Arab woman of color and we come in all shades of anger.
- 26:42So let me just tell you, this woman side of me will only bring you your next rebel. She'll have
- 26:49a rock in one hand and a Palestinian flag in the other. I am an Arab woman of color. Beware,
- 26:57beware, my anger. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, that is so powerful. I know I use that word a lot
- 27:19but wow, I get chills listening to it every single time. Arab women of color come in all shades
- 27:27of anger. That idea of shades of anger and the double standards and then also the US's
- 27:38complicity, not even complicity, the US's direct role in the arming of the state of Israel,
- 27:45of the militarization of Israel and that idea of the womb giving birth to the rebel.
- 27:52Palestinian resistance again, people are only going to condemn the rebel. They're not going to
- 27:59condemn what they are rebelling against. Why am I the terrorist she's saying as a Palestinian when
- 28:05it is your ancestors as a white American who are the KKK who lynched black people committed genocide
- 28:12against indigenous people who have no moral high ground and yet can turn around and say that
- 28:18my child or my womb will give birth to a terrorist. I want to read you a poem by Mahmoud Darwish who
- 28:27is one of the most highly regarded, adored Palestinian poets. He was an incredibly important and
- 28:33prolific poet and this is his bio. It says Mahmoud Darwish was a Palestinian poet and author
- 28:39who is regarded as Palestine's national poet. He won numerous awards for his work. Darwish used
- 28:45Palestine as a metaphor for the loss of Eden, birth and resurrection and the anguish of disposition
- 28:51and exile. Oh my word, it's like I planned this but I really didn't. It's so wild how they say that
- 28:58Darwish used Palestine as a metaphor for the anguish of disposition and exile. It's not a metaphor,
- 29:04it quite literally is the thing itself and so again we have the idea of decolonization is not
- 29:09a metaphor. So they're saying that it's like Palestine is symbolic of but it's not a symbol,
- 29:14it's not some a referential device. It's literally the actual experience of anguish, of disposition,
- 29:22of exile and so that's really ironic because Darwish was made to be an internal refugee in his
- 29:28own native land of Palestine and so I think that's really important when we think of forced removal
- 29:33when we think of terrorization, settler colonialism I feel like it's a really beautiful poem that I
- 29:39hope you enjoy. It says they fitted his mouth with chains and tied his hands to the rock of the dead.
- 29:49They said you're a murderer. They took his food, his clothes and his banners and threw him into the
- 30:01well of the dead. They said you're a thief. They threw him out of every port and took away his
- 30:12young beloved and then they said you're a refugee. So I think this poem is doing so much in the
- 30:24structure of it, this progression. They condemned him to die, tied his hands to the rock of the dead,
- 30:30terrorized this man, oppressed him, chained him, then said you're a murderer. They stole his
- 30:36belongings, then said you're a thief. They threw him out of every port, they threw him out okay,
- 30:44implying that he was there, they removed him and took away his young beloved and then they said
- 30:53you're a refugee. The reason why this is so powerful is the structure and then they said it's
- 30:58telling us there's a whole history behind the word refugee when it comes to Palestinians and then
- 31:04they said that was the final step, it's not the first step. So they terrorized these people,
- 31:11they labeled them as terrorists, they stole from Palestinians, they labeled them as thieves,
- 31:16they removed them from the place that they were and then they labeled them refugee and so there's
- 31:21so much work that this word refugee is doing and it is almost a stand-in for these other words.
- 31:29They're equating being a refugee, being a thief, being a murderer and being Palestinian and yet
- 31:34Palestinians are actually none of those things. The true murderer is the state that ties your hands
- 31:40to the rock of the dead. The true thief is the one that steals your food, your clothes, your banners,
- 31:45with this siege, steals your power, steals your water, steals your livelihood, steals your life
- 31:51force from you. So I think that's a really exceptional poem and something that I read while researching
- 31:58this episode is the idea of what may get lost in translation and this is something that I really
- 32:04had not thought about because I've read some of these poems and you don't really think about,
- 32:10I mean let me not say you, I didn't really think about how language would factor into this story
- 32:16but I want to read you this quick excerpt from Palestinian writer and poet Fadi Jouda
- 32:24and this is what he says and I think this is so interesting, he says, I love Palestine in English
- 32:32but in my heart Palestine is Arabic and Palestine in Arabic does not need to explain itself
- 32:41despite setbacks, disasters revolving conspiracies against it, Palestine in Arabic is self-possessed
- 32:51it is exterior to English yet born internationalist and shall remain so
- 32:57neither thinking it is the center of the world nor surrendering to the imperial center
- 33:03as the primary source of its future liberation, Palestine in Arabic is where the overwhelming sacrifice
- 33:12is made, Palestine in Arabic dreams lives in and with more than 1500 years of literary and intellectual
- 33:22traditions belongs to 10,000 years before that history does not end for Palestine in Arabic
- 33:34wow so Palestine in Arabic has an endless history as in you could trace it back to the most
- 33:42ancient but when you think of Palestine in English it has to always explain itself it is not self-possessed
- 33:50it has to always be elaborated upon even when you defend Palestine you have to say but I'm not
- 33:59anti-Semitic so in Arabic what he's implying is it self-possessed it possesses itself there is no need
- 34:06to explain where it is what it is why it is because it is Palestine in Arabic and obviously I don't
- 34:16speak Arabic but I think this is such an important and interesting understanding that even as we
- 34:20read these poems or even as we try to understand the cause of Palestinians that we need to understand
- 34:26that language is playing a mitigating role or mediating role because a language has a belief system
- 34:32a value system whose language is it why do we speak it you know why did the colonizer insist
- 34:38on imposing their languages on the people that they aim to subjugate because a language is more
- 34:43than a way of communication a language is a way of thinking of feeling a language is a form of
- 34:48control a language has boundaries a language has places it will not go and importantly there are
- 34:56bridges that we can form between languages but as anyone who speaks more than one language knows
- 35:02you cannot fully capture what is in one language and transmutes it into the other because you would
- 35:08be missing the value system that comes along the traditions the culture that comes along the way
- 35:14of seeing being thinking feeling understanding that comes along with that language I want to play
- 35:20one more poem by Rafif Ziyada and it's named Hadeel
- 35:29Hadeel is nine Hadeel is nine now sorry my apologies Hadeel was nine
- 35:37just this morning Hadeel was nine an official said official said they regret her death
- 35:46israeli official said they regret her death but terrorism must stop rockets must stop resistance
- 35:52must stop or they will continue they will continue they will continue they will continue to
- 35:56bum razze until we give up the bit of dignity we have left until we elect who they want sign what
- 36:03they want and die die die die in silence the way they want you see israeli security is absolute
- 36:11it's written in blood and bulldozers and the art of women spokespersons because death is softer
- 36:19coming from a woman death they tell me is more polite and elegant coming from a woman
- 36:27but who who will tell Hadeel's mother busy baking bread and zatter that the dubs the dubs will not fly
- 36:35over razze again the dubs the dubs will not fly over razze again the dubs will not fly over razze again
- 36:41Hadeel is gone and her brother Ahmed lost his sight the dubs the dubs will not fly over razze again
- 36:51Hadeel every prayer I remember every prayer I remember and half remember won't bring you back
- 36:59every prayer I remember every prayer I look inside of me to remember won't bring you back as
- 37:05you wrap yourself in stories of Palestine hide under a bed waiting for the next soldier to knock
- 37:11down your door to cast us out of a history we carry on our backs Hadeel Hadeel Hadeel who
- 37:22which of you will tell Hadeel that nothing changed the day she died next meeting next train next
- 37:30meeting next train not a pause not a tear is this worth a press release is this worth a press release
- 37:37just another Palestinian gone is this worth a press release solidarity from afar like a sick joke
- 37:43a bad story to tell a child and they tell me they keep telling me don't cry for martyrs don't
- 37:49cry for martyrs don't cry for martyrs carry on the fight carry on the fight carry on the fight carry
- 37:55on the fight carry on the fight but for Hadeel for Hadeel give me just one moment of silence
- 38:03no just give me one moment of sincere resistance sincere resistance so you can hold on to the
- 38:14bit of dignity you have left for Hadeel
- 38:25one moment of silence no she says one moment of genuine resistance for Hadeel for Hadeel
- 38:47I wonder what that would look like to some of us what would one moment of genuine resistance
- 38:53look like the answer for me is in part this episode because I had another one lined up but I couldn't
- 39:02in good conscience and I'm not saying this is enough I'm not saying this makes me anything I'm just
- 39:08saying when I ask myself that question that's this is what I came up with it also speaks to how
- 39:15the carry on the fight carry on the fight carry on the fight it's not just a mantra it's the speaker
- 39:21trying to rattle themselves up trying to give themselves the energy the life resources to keep
- 39:27going and I think we forget that no liberation fighter or activist whatever their strategies may be
- 39:34in a different they would not choose that role if they had their way they would be nothing to
- 39:39liberate and fight against and so it's often a very very draining position to be put into that
- 39:46requires everything of you and I think often we dehumanize all of the people who have
- 39:52fought for freedom like we valorize them you know where many different liberation fighters if
- 39:59they had their way that's not how they would be spending their lives they'd be spending their
- 40:03lives not having to have a regime to oppose carry on the fight carry on the fight carry on the fight
- 40:13reminds us that decolonization is not a metaphor
- 40:21the next poem I want to read is called the Shaling Ended and it is by Palestinian poet Najwan
- 40:28Darwish it says no one will know you tomorrow the Shaling Ended only to start again within you
- 40:39the buildings fell the horizon burned only for flames to rage inside you flames that will devour
- 40:48even stone the murdered are sunk in sleep but sleep will never find you awake forever awake until
- 40:58they crumble these massive rocks said to be the tears of retired gods forgiveness has ended and
- 41:07mercy is bleeding outside of time no one knows you now and no one will know you tomorrow you
- 41:15like the trees were planted in place while the shells were falling
- 41:27I want to go into the first two stanzas of this poem because I think they speak so well to trauma
- 41:34the shaling ended so the shaling of bombs only to start again within you
- 41:41do you have a powerful that is even as external attacks may end only to again start internally the
- 41:50trauma the pain the nightmares all of the violence starts again
- 41:57I have a friend who's from Rwanda and he says that he grew up in the Rwanda genocide and he
- 42:05said that even to this day he still feels like at night he can hear the terror
- 42:16the shaling ended only to start again within you and I think also when we think of generational
- 42:23generational violence we see how the shaling will continue and continue and continue
- 42:32the buildings fell the horizon burned and we've seen the images only for flames to rage inside
- 42:40you flames that will devour even stone and this comes back to the idea that of course there is
- 42:46an anger that is internalized on the deepest level that Arab women of color come in different
- 42:53shades of anger and when you see acts you see that they are acting from that rage of the flames
- 43:02that came to burn inside as flames were imposed and are imposed from the outside flames that will
- 43:12devour even stone the murdered are sunk in sleep but sleep will never find you and so even as you
- 43:21are alive you're condemned to a kind of death because you are awake forever awake until they crumble
- 43:29these massive rocks said to be tears of retired gods so I think this idea that even when you are
- 43:35escaped by death death will still visit itself on you because the murdered are sunk in sleep
- 43:43so that's juxtaposing both the idea of the trauma of dying but also the rest of it
- 43:51and yet rest is only for the dead sleep will never find you you will be awake forever
- 43:58forgiveness has ended and mercy is bleeding outside of time so I think this is the idea that
- 44:04it's moved so past forgiveness now as what I'm interpreting this as I always say this is one
- 44:09interpretation that I wish we could all interpret together and I wish especially a Palestinian
- 44:15person could interpret this poem because I have not had that experience and so I would love to hear
- 44:19their perspective I'm just doing my best but it says that no one knows you now and no one will
- 44:25know you tomorrow I think that speaks to erasure nameless faceless no one knows you now and no
- 44:32one will know you tomorrow you are condemned to be unknown you like the trees were planted in place
- 44:41while the shells were falling so I think that is so powerful and I hope that it moved you as much
- 44:47as it moved me there is one last poem that I want to read to you and I think it really ends on
- 44:54a powerful note that implicates all of us and the poem is named my sixteen year old mother
- 45:00by atlam brasharat who is a Palestinian poet and writer my sixteen year old mother is the title
- 45:10what is my eighty something mother doing under these conditions she watches the situation behind
- 45:18the glass once the rain stops she goes out in her plastic slippers with her shawl around her
- 45:25shoulders and her dress belted at the waist like a sixteen year old chasing the rain the leaves
- 45:31and plastic bags filled with air that the wind will burst her ten blue fingers making a beautiful
- 45:39dance in the drizzle what is my ninety something father doing under these conditions he is under
- 45:49the covers wondering what is the use of getting out of bed in these conditions if I cannot be a young
- 45:55man in his twenties if I don't sweep the water away from the well and let it pass through the
- 46:01crevices to water the wounds and the thirsty plants what can I do under these conditions I forge a
- 46:12word to hammer into the ground of my loneliness so the winds don't blow away the tent of life above
- 46:19my head and I think of my sixteen year old mother who is still playing outside I call out to her
- 46:28come back home daughter and I think of my twenty something father who tary's to tend his wounds so
- 46:35I embrace him stitch what wounds you can list blood flow from your palms you are still young life lies
- 46:45before you and I think of you what are you doing under these conditions you will calmly answer in
- 46:57a tone that disturbs one's sleep nothing I am doing nothing
- 47:15so so powerful there's one stanza that I just want to tap into again
- 47:21she's asking about how different people are reacting to these conditions of living under Israeli
- 47:30occupation living the trauma of living as a Palestinian in occupied Palestine and I love how she's
- 47:43the structure of it is what is my eighty something mother doing under these conditions what is my
- 47:48ninety something father doing under these conditions what what can I do under these conditions either
- 47:54author either poet and then I think of you what are you doing under these conditions so it's really
- 47:59wonderful it also speaks to stolen youth and how even you know there's a lot of conversation around
- 48:08oh no all the Palestinian children are being killed and that's so true but it's also a little bit
- 48:13dehumanizing what about the Palestinian adults what about the grandparents even the language
- 48:18around women and children like it's also tragic that men are being killed and it of course it
- 48:23raises non-binary Palestinians and so it's like why do they need to be children for us to value
- 48:29their life I totally agree that it's inhumane and awful and that the children facing such horror
- 48:35in Gaza in Palestine it is such a demonstration of just how evil and how sinister and
- 48:42oppressive and terrorizing this system is and yet I love how this poem speaks to the pain and
- 48:48also the way of making sense of my eighty something mother my ninety something father myself and
- 48:55then you the reader I love how she says when she asks what she can do under these conditions she
- 49:02says I forge a word to hammer into the ground of my loneliness so the winds don't blow away the
- 49:10tent of life above my head I think that is so wonderful it's like when the world is ending all the
- 49:16time what do you do what can I do and she turns to poetry she forges a word to hammer into the
- 49:23ground of her loneliness so the ground of her loneliness is kind of this piece of land or piece of
- 49:28soil which again ties the idea of the Palestinian cause being so tied to land and being forcibly
- 49:35removed from land the idea of the olive tree in that original poem is a symbol of Palestinian
- 49:41resistance and Palestinian return and so she does this so the winds don't blow away the tent of life
- 49:47it's so that poetry is not a luxury that this is a complete necessity a complete life force
- 49:56in such a deadening situation and then finally that last dance is so powerful and I think of you
- 50:02what are you doing under these conditions you will calmly answer in a tone that disturbs one
- 50:08sleep the juxtaposition here the tension here between the calmness of the tone and the disturbance
- 50:14of how can you be so cold so unfeeling so calm in such a horrific situation the idea of complete
- 50:22indifference nothing I am doing nothing you will answer calmly in a tone that disturbs one sleep
- 50:31and it's so interesting because this is in the context of disturbance the disturbance of bombs
- 50:37of shaling the disturbance of violence and yet it's the calmness of the indifference that disturbs
- 50:43one sleep on the point of what are we doing I wanted to move to part three the final part of this
- 50:54episode which is amplify resources and places that we can learn and donate so the first is
- 51:01decolonizepalestine.com this is an incredible resource and it has information on Palestine it has
- 51:09a whole section where debunks popular myths about Palestine and about Israel and I think it's a
- 51:15really really well thought out resource I've been spending time on it today and there's so much
- 51:20to learn there's also reading lists with books and there's so much to learn on this resource so
- 51:25for anyone who's craving knowledge I think this is a wonderful resource I think having a database
- 51:31of myths is such a clever and powerful form of informational resistance so it has the myth that
- 51:39Palestinian sabotage the peace process the myth that the two-state solution is the only way forward
- 51:45the myth that Israel holds itself responsible for its human rights violations the myth that Israel
- 51:51is a democracy and so on and so forth if you do enjoy that resource you can also go on that website
- 51:58and support their patreon for those of you who have the means to do so let's keep this really
- 52:04critical resource going on the topic of support there are a number of organizations on the ground
- 52:11who are supporting Palestinian lives especially as some of the hospitals and really important
- 52:17resources for Palestinians have been bombed by Israel so with that these are the five resources
- 52:24that I wanted to amplify and it says what you can do beyond reading the news about Gaza donate
- 52:31there is medical aid for Palestinians which is on the ground in Gaza where they are working to
- 52:36start hospitals with essential drugs disposable and other health care supplies that is at map.org.uk
- 52:43there is Palestine Children's Relief Fund which is the primary humanitarian organization in
- 52:48Palestine they deliver crucial life-saving medical relief and humanitarian aid on the ground
- 52:54where we can go to pcrf.net there is the World Food Program which has been distributing fresh bread
- 53:00canned food and ready to eat food to those who sought refuge in United Nations Relief and
- 53:05works agency shelters in Gaza which is wfp.org there's doctors without borders which is providing
- 53:11support to hospitals and health facilities in Gaza and there is UNRWA which is providing medical
- 53:18support trauma relief and food assistance on the ground in Gaza at UNRWAUSA.org and so I will put
- 53:26these in the show notes for you to have and I'm sending you all the love today I hope that you
- 53:32enjoyed this episode and I can only I always think that there'll always be more to say there'll
- 53:37always be something that I left out or something that I could have said in a different way or a
- 53:40better way but this is what I have to offer to the collective in service of Palestinian liberation
- 53:47as a Black South African who is a direct beneficiary of the liberation efforts some of which were
- 53:53violent that ended the apartheid regime because the idea that we can resist colonial and
- 54:02oppressive forces without violence is unfortunately not rooted in reality I wish we lived in a
- 54:08world without was possible that's what I want to emphasize I wish we lived in a world where there
- 54:12was no colonialism number one number two if there was that there were peaceful ways that you could
- 54:16end colonialism we have never lived in such a world there is no liberation movement that has
- 54:22succeeded without using violence and I really really wish that wasn't true and I don't
- 54:28celebrate violence or it's like it's so wild that you're like framed as this radical terrorists
- 54:35for saying that we want to see the end of a literal like military occupation of a people where
- 54:42their time their life their energy their well-being their literal safety is threatened every single
- 54:50minute of every single day the colonizer does not wish to know have they ever wished to end violence
- 54:57they only wish to have a monopoly on it we want to see a world where life matters and one person's
- 55:04life or death is not taken as inherently so much more important and all human life is truly
- 55:12celebrated and safeguarded and no force can oppose and threaten and terrorize and humiliate
- 55:20any other people okay I love you also much and I'm sending all the love and all the light and I hope
- 55:25that you have as peaceful of an existence as you can have at this time and that you don't look
- 55:32away you look towards I want to end with this quote from a documentary which I'll link to in the
- 55:38show notes called oceans of injustice where she argues that even as we try to confront what is
- 55:44happening and what has happened for 70 plus years to Palestinians we can only dip our toe into
- 55:49the ocean of pain the ocean of trauma that's been inflicted on Palestinian lives and she says the
- 55:56following look into their eyes hear their voices understand their story look at what was stolen
- 56:11what their fears are look at what pressure and humiliation they are made to drown in
- 56:17every day don't close your eyes don't turn away look