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The Kenny Report | 8 July · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Sky New Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report. Thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Albinizi is back in Australia, still spinning nonsense, but
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  Speaker 1: journalists failed to quiz him on his very unprime ministerial embarrassments.
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  Speaker 1: Pauline Hansen is in the UK where reform leader Nigel
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  Speaker 1: Farage has quit to get ahead old cross to Esther
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  Speaker 1: Krakhu that Telstra outage hits triple zero calls and train
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  Speaker 1: services what are shambles?
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  Speaker 2: We'll get a tech head update.
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  Speaker 1: Also, the US strikes Iran again. Is the ceasefire dead?
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  Speaker 1: Tom Switzer will give us the latest there. Also Dave
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  Speaker 1: Sharma on the Pacific and James Boldendnika de Giorgio are
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  Speaker 1: going to make sense of everything for us. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: into it. It's hard to overstate the amount of denial,
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  Speaker 1: delusion and bias in our political debate. The overwhelming majority
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  Speaker 1: of journalists and media in this countryside with the Green Left,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, and they're weak and deferential to labor.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bit like this in all Western liberal democracies,
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  Speaker 1: but I reckon it's worse in Australia, probably because of
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  Speaker 1: the disproportionate influence of the public broadcasters, plus the powerful
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  Speaker 1: union movement, including the journalist union, which is as woke
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  Speaker 1: as they get. Anyway, this influences the big debates, of course,
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  Speaker 1: like climate, energy, immigration and national security, and we've got
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  Speaker 1: to look at how it works on the smaller issues. Today,
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  Speaker 1: when the Prime Minister returned from overseas and held a
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  Speaker 1: press conference, his first since the kerfuffle over his tacky
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  Speaker 1: Kylie Minogue comments, and can you believe it, the media
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  Speaker 1: pack did not ask him a single question about it,
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  Speaker 1: not a single question about what is at the very
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  Speaker 1: least a major political embarrassment for the PM. How pathetic, now,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. Whichever journalist asked this question is going
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  Speaker 1: to be sneered at by the PM and his minders. Sure,
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: but you're supposed to have some spine. Instead the journo's
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  Speaker 1: elicited nonsense like this.
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  Speaker 3: I find it a good thing to not comment on
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  Speaker 3: things that people tell me.
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  Speaker 4: Barnaby Joyce has said.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it would be a good thing not to
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  Speaker 1: comment on which women you want to shag, Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 1: And after his classless, kyly comment, this quip on another
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  Speaker 1: issue ran kind of hollow.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I don't know it hurts anyone
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  Speaker 3: for people to be polite.
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  Speaker 2: It sure doesn't. So Albo is allowed to move on.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently the press pack don't ask him about his embarrassments,
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  Speaker 1: he's not forced to address it in front of the cameras,
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  Speaker 1: and we're expected to pretend that this is a level
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  Speaker 1: playing field politically. We don't even need to wonder if
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  Speaker 1: coalition politicians would get tougher treatment, because we've all seen
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  Speaker 1: Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison haranged for much less. The
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  Speaker 1: double standards are stark. Listen to one of Albanezi's female
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  Speaker 1: backbenches complaining that it was sexist to call the Victorian
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  Speaker 1: Premier a witch.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I'm somebody who has worked pretty hard to
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  Speaker 5: develop codes of conduct to try and start improving behavior
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  Speaker 5: within the Parliament, within political parties. You know, anyone that
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  Speaker 5: thinks that is an acceptable way in which to behave
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  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty six is like so disappointing. I cannot
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  Speaker 5: express how deeply I feel about this, to be honest,
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  Speaker 5: this is not about a party that somebody belongs to
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  Speaker 5: here I would say exactly the same thing if it
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  Speaker 5: was one of my political opponents who were under attack.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I reached out to Sharon Clayton today to find
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  Speaker 1: out if she was happy with her leader's comments on Kylie,
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  Speaker 1: but I didn't hear back from her office. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: Albo himself is the very definition of hypocrisy on these
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  Speaker 1: issues here.
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  Speaker 2: He was last month on the ditch the Witch campaign.
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  Speaker 3: Sexist campaign targeting the Victorian premier is totally unacceptable and
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  Speaker 3: has no place in public life.
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  Speaker 1: And he backed that up with a social media post saying,
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  Speaker 1: no matter who you support in politics, it's completely unacceptable
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  Speaker 1: to demean, objectify, belittle or offend women. Yeah, so he's
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  Speaker 1: against objectifying women, except it seems when he does it
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  Speaker 1: on camera in the lodge as Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 2: What an example, Hay. Then again, this is a.
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  Speaker 1: Bloke who says he believes in truth, honesty and promises.
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  Speaker 3: My word is my bond, and we said during the
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  Speaker 3: election campaign that we would maintain the position that had
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  Speaker 3: already been legislated. I've always been a man of my word,
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  Speaker 3: and I believe that when you go to an election
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  Speaker 3: and you make commitments, you should stick to them.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: But his budget is full of broken promises and tax
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  Speaker 1: grabs that he swore he would never impose. What we're
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  Speaker 1: seeing is double standards, lies and hypocrisy being normalized.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about post truth politics.
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  Speaker 1: Reality doesn't seem to matter to this bloke or the
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  Speaker 1: camera bubble.
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  Speaker 3: Reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars,
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  Speaker 3: falling by two hundred and seventy five dollars per household.
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  Speaker 2: It's reputexas modeling.
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  Speaker 3: It's reputexas modeling. It's reputexas modeling from that time. It's
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  Speaker 3: reputexas modeling based upon the circumstances at that time.
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  Speaker 2: Grace tame difficult.
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  Speaker 3: She has had a difficult life, and that was what
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  Speaker 3: I was referring.
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  Speaker 6: To photos with everyone okay in the middle. I stepped
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  Speaker 6: back one step.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't fall off the stage, just one leg went down.
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  Speaker 7: But I was sweet.
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  Speaker 2: I was sweet. Well, living in a topsy turvy world,
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  Speaker 2: aren't we?
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  Speaker 1: Oh for just a bit of truth, reality and consistency.
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  Speaker 1: The Nigel Farage announcement live from London was pretty compelling
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  Speaker 1: viewing last night here on Sky. This was an act
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  Speaker 1: of political genius. I reckon a theatrical attempt to resign
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  Speaker 1: and recontest his seat, to try to put serious allegations
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  Speaker 1: about failing to declare huge donations behind him.
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  Speaker 8: Over the last year, some big donors have been attracted
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  Speaker 8: to us extraordinary. These are men who've gone off as
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  Speaker 8: entrepreneurs around the world and succeeded, the sort of people
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  Speaker 8: we used to admire over centuries. Now government ministers refer
• 7:05
  Speaker 8: to them in Parliament as malign actors, and so they
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  Speaker 8: keep changing all the rules again and again just to
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  Speaker 8: stop reform. Frankly, it is like living in a communist country.
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  Speaker 8: I could never have believed such a thing would happen here.
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  Speaker 8: Ignore the fact, of course that over decades peerages have
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  Speaker 8: been given to donors, and that Labour's donors in the
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  Speaker 8: run up to the twenty twenty four general election now
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  Speaker 8: seem to have been awarded the most extraordinary government contracts.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the genius in Faraja's approach is that he's quitting parliament,
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  Speaker 1: which brings the investigations into his affairs to a close
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  Speaker 1: for a while at least, and once he wins his
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  Speaker 1: set beck he will use the fresh endorsement to dismiss
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  Speaker 1: the attacks.
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  Speaker 8: I thought about it hard, and I've decided today. Today
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  Speaker 8: I will resign as a member of Parliament for Clacton
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  Speaker 8: on Sea by forcing a by election which had happened,
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  Speaker 8: I hope in short order. Now I've decided that the
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  Speaker 8: people of Clacton should be the judges of my actions.
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  Speaker 8: This will be a people versus the establishment by election.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Farage and Reform against the establishment. He's played
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  Speaker 1: the victim, sure, everybody seems to do that these days.
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  Speaker 1: And he's also played the system with his by election stunt,
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  Speaker 1: and it just might work. It just might blunt all
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  Speaker 1: the investigations into his affairs. Now as to whether these
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  Speaker 1: parliamentary standards investigations are fair and whether Farage has followed
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  Speaker 1: the rules, well we'll leave that to the British authorities.
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  Speaker 1: But it occurs to me that this is familiar territory
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  Speaker 1: for the new wave of populist right have sent to politicians.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen, for instance, in the US, endless congressional and
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  Speaker 1: legal investigations over many years to try to Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 9: Continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time. And
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  Speaker 9: I don't think the people of this country are going
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  Speaker 9: to stand for it. If I weren't leading in all
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  Speaker 9: the polls, or if I weren't running, I wouldn't have
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  Speaker 9: any of these cases. I wouldn't be seeing you this morning,
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  Speaker 9: but I'll be seeing a lot of you because this
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  Speaker 9: is a horrible thing that's happening to our country. I
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  Speaker 9: can tell you the voter's getting it because every time
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  Speaker 9: they give me a fake indictment.
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  Speaker 6: I go up in the polls.
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  Speaker 2: And that's never happened before.
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  Speaker 9: But this is a disgrace.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Democrats have tried to defeat Trump in the
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  Speaker 1: courts and with extraordinary allegations. Our own ABC went full
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  Speaker 1: in on wild conspiracy theories about Trump being installed by Russia.
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  Speaker 1: And then, of course here in Australia, paul enhanced and
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  Speaker 1: riding high in the polls.
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  Speaker 2: Now, of course, was once.
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  Speaker 1: Pursued by her political opponents all the way to prison.
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  Speaker 10: See But of all the challenges as the family has faced,
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  Speaker 10: by far the greatest was when Pauline was sentenced to
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  Speaker 10: three years jail for a electoral fraud.
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  Speaker 3: After the guilty verdict was handed down, Hanson remained defiant,
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  Speaker 3: declaring her innocence and later saying rubbish, this is a joke.
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  Speaker 2: It is a shock, but she's doing well. She's a
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  Speaker 2: strong woman.
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  Speaker 10: Pauline's imprisonment was met with outrage.
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  Speaker 11: It's a disgrace that we have a political prisoner in
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  Speaker 11: Australia and.
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  Speaker 10: Three months later her conviction was overturned.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so in Australia too, and even in France, the
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  Speaker 1: National Rally leader Marine Le Penn has been convicted of
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  Speaker 1: misusing European parliamentary funds, but she'll still be able to
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  Speaker 1: run for the presidency next year. So there's a pattern here,
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  Speaker 1: isn't there. Either all of these right of center populists
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  Speaker 1: sail close to the wind, or they're all pursued by
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  Speaker 1: the establishment. They will challenge the establishment, the political media class,
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  Speaker 1: the Washington Swamp as Trump calls it, or the Canberra
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  Speaker 1: bubble as we know it, and they all end up
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  Speaker 1: being pursued by some of the legalistic and investigative arms
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  Speaker 1: of that very establishment. Now, we all support the rule
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  Speaker 1: of law, but we need to know it's being applied
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  Speaker 1: equally and without fear or favor. Political battles should always
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  Speaker 1: be settled at that sacred place that we've created for
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  Speaker 1: these important contests, the ballot box.
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  Speaker 2: Now let's catch up.
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  Speaker 1: Live with the Shadow Communications Minister Sarah Henderson. Thanks for
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  Speaker 1: joining us, Sarah, I know you have been very busy
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  Speaker 1: today with the Telstra outage, just a warning. We expect
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  Speaker 1: Telstra will be holding a press conference sooner and we'll
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  Speaker 1: try and go to that live if it happens in
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  Speaker 1: this hour.
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  Speaker 2: But tell us your authors.
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  Speaker 1: I see, Labor, we're criticizing you for testing the Triple
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  Speaker 1: O numbers today. I thought, well, someone needed to test it.
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  Speaker 1: You certainly can't take Labor at their word. And we
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  Speaker 1: do know that there were calls missed, at least at
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  Speaker 1: least thirty calls that should have gone to Triple Oh
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  Speaker 1: that failed.
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  Speaker 11: Well, Chris Good, afternoon. Today has been a pretty dramatic
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  Speaker 11: day for all Australians who rely on Telstra's network. This
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  Speaker 11: is critical infrastructure and we've seen a day of chaos.
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  Speaker 11: Train services shut down, payment systems are completely lost, and
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  Speaker 11: of course some Triple zero calls it did not get through.
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  Speaker 11: And it's ridiculous that the government is criticizing me.
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  Speaker 2: It just goes to show.
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  Speaker 11: How desperate they are, because we know last year when
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  Speaker 11: Optus receive preliminary calls about the Triple zero network saying
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  Speaker 11: it was not working, those calls were ignored. And the
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  Speaker 11: couple of calls initially that I made this morning showed
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  Speaker 11: that the Triple zero network was not working, and I
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  Speaker 11: think the Minister is now down playing this and she's
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  Speaker 11: announced Chris an inadequate inquiry, an ACRO inquiry, there's one
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  Speaker 11: underway after the Optus September outage of last year.
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  Speaker 4: We still have no result.
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  Speaker 11: So I've called for an urgent inquiry for the regulator
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  Speaker 11: to report back within seven days as to what caused
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  Speaker 11: this out each, what immediate steps can be put in
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  Speaker 11: place to ensure this never happens again, and to provide
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  Speaker 11: Australians with all information, including if anyone has been impacted
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  Speaker 11: by the triple zero outach.
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  Speaker 1: Look, we'll go to more of those fundamentals in a moment.
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  Speaker 1: But it bears dwelling on this, doesn't it, because it
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  Speaker 1: goes to my critique of this government and the weakness
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  Speaker 1: and the lack of accountability here, Because here's a government
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  Speaker 1: dealing with what is a national crisis with an outage
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  Speaker 1: like this, this disrupting transport, disrupting people's lives and disrupting
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  Speaker 1: Triple zero services, and you, as a shadow Communications Minister,
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  Speaker 1: are trying to get onto this has happened before, for
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  Speaker 1: they haven't fixed it, and the government, this government, instead
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  Speaker 1: of fixing what's going on here, Instead of holding Telstra
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  Speaker 1: to account and instead of making sure that everything's operating properly,
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  Speaker 1: they're wasting their time attacking you for daring to check
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  Speaker 1: the system.
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  Speaker 11: And I think Chris, Australians have very little faith in
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  Speaker 11: our telecommunications carriers at the moment after what occurred last year,
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  Speaker 11: and there's been a range of other failures. The government
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  Speaker 11: has also systemically failed to safeguard our Triple zero network.
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  Speaker 4: Would you believe it took two years for the.
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  Speaker 11: Government to accept a recommendation of the Bean Review to
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  Speaker 11: inquire into and review the entire regulatory framework governing the
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  Speaker 11: Triple zero emergency call network. Now that is not good enough.
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  Speaker 11: This Minister has systemically failed in her job, including in
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  Speaker 11: reviewing Triple zero's network, and of course she now announcers
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  Speaker 11: and inadequate review. We're going to wait months more for
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  Speaker 11: AKMA to tell us what went wrong. It is just
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  Speaker 11: not good enough. This minister and frankly the Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 11: they're not acting with appropriate urgency and that's what I
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  Speaker 11: was doing. I want to make sure my job is
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  Speaker 11: to ensure that the welfare and safety of Australians is
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  Speaker 11: protected as much as possible, and that means holding the
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  Speaker 11: government to account when they fail and holding the carriers
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  Speaker 11: to account when they fail to deliver this critical infrastructure.
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  Speaker 1: Look, this is a big problem for the country. Imagine
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  Speaker 1: if this happened at a time of a national emergency.
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  Speaker 1: It creates crisis just whenever it occurs, but it could
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  Speaker 1: happen at a time when we're dealing with bush fires
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  Speaker 1: or floods or the like.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a problem here that when we have.
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  Speaker 1: The whole of our communications system digitalized and operating over
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  Speaker 1: microwave and satellite services.
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  Speaker 2: That it can't be protected.
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  Speaker 1: That you just can't guarantee communications with triple zero or
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  Speaker 1: anything else because these systems can always fall over, there
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  Speaker 1: can always be a glitch.
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  Speaker 11: Well, there's got to be appropriate resilience and redundancy in
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  Speaker 11: the network so that if something goes wrong, a backup
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  Speaker 11: system kicked into place. I mean hospitals have that if
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  Speaker 11: they have a power for out each they have generators
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  Speaker 11: to kick in to make sure that lives are not
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  Speaker 11: put in threat. We need the same safeguards on our
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  Speaker 11: telecommunications networks. And that's why today, on behalf of the coalition,
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  Speaker 11: I have called for mandatory minimum mobile network performance standards.
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  Speaker 11: The government has done nothing to push forward minimum standards
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  Speaker 11: relating to performance and governance and reliability, and of course
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  Speaker 11: if the telcos don't meet those standards then there should
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  Speaker 11: be penalties that flow sure agains. This Minister is just
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  Speaker 11: not doing enough and I am raising a very big
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  Speaker 11: red flag. Australians deserve first class communications infrastructure and when
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  Speaker 11: it fails, this government has a responsibility to act urgently
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  Speaker 11: in the national interest, and time and time again, this
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  Speaker 11: Prime Minister and Anika Wells, the Communications Minister, has failed
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  Speaker 11: to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Sarah Henderson, thanks very much for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it and just mentioning there that we will
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  Speaker 1: cross live to a Telstra press conference when that happens now.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, despite the recent Middle East peace deal, the
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  Speaker 1: Iranian war has turned hot again.
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  Speaker 2: Have a look.
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  Speaker 12: The deal to end the war was signed about three
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  Speaker 12: weeks ago, but there seems to be little ceasing of
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  Speaker 12: the firing. Ran attacked three tankers in the straight of
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  Speaker 12: holl Moves. In response, the US carried out a wave
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  Speaker 12: of strikes. US Central Command says its forces began launching
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  Speaker 12: a series of powerful strikes against Iran to impose heavy
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  Speaker 12: costs for targeting and attacking commercial shipping. Bandera Bus and
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  Speaker 12: the southern port city of syric were among the locations struck.
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  Speaker 12: The Americans were targeting air defense systems, coastal surveillance systems,
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  Speaker 12: surface to air missiles, anti ship cruise missiles.
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  Speaker 2: And drone launch sites. And once again, the world is.
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  Speaker 12: Watching the Strait of Hormus, the Middle East and the
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  Speaker 12: global oil prices which jumped off the back of the
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  Speaker 12: latest attacks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's bring in Tom Switzer columnists with the Australian Tom,
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  Speaker 1: here we go again. Doesn't Donald Trump just need to
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  Speaker 1: finish this war by taking out all of the relevant
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  Speaker 1: Iranian military Well.
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  Speaker 2: That's easy said than done.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, as we found out between February twenty eight
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  Speaker 13: and the beginning of the ceasefire on April seven, both sides,
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  Speaker 13: both the Iranians and the Americans, went out at hammer
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  Speaker 13: and tong and it was in America's interest to shut
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  Speaker 13: the war down lest the global economy go off the cliff.
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  Speaker 2: So what's going on now?
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  Speaker 13: Well, this is certainly the most serious military escalation between
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  Speaker 13: the two sides since they signed the Memorandum of Understanding
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  Speaker 13: on June seventeen. I think what's happening here is that
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  Speaker 13: the Iranians want to show that they got coercive leverage
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  Speaker 13: in the straight of hor moves, and this will be
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  Speaker 13: the case after the sixty day ceasefire comes to an end.
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  Speaker 13: But the Americans don't want that. They want freedom of
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  Speaker 13: navigation for good reason.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, we'll see where it all leads, because theoretically
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  Speaker 1: there's still a cease fire in place.
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  Speaker 2: I want to get your.
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  Speaker 1: Thoughts on the funeral during the week for the former
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  Speaker 1: Iranian leader. Obviously an attempt by the regime to display
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  Speaker 1: the fact that it's still in place, to at least
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  Speaker 1: trying to convince the world that the population supports it
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  Speaker 1: as well, and a bit of support from other renegade nations.
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  Speaker 13: Well, look, the regime has been battered and bruised, there's
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  Speaker 13: no question about that. But it still exists. It still survives.
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  Speaker 13: It survives, and it's got its ballistic missiles, and it's
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  Speaker 13: still got its militia proxies, and they're showcasing that at
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  Speaker 13: this funeral. I think that they're trying to convey the
• 20:00
  Speaker 13: impression that nationalism is at fever. Pitching irm you do
• 20:03
  Speaker 13: never mind, we think, do we.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Think that's well.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Have we been able to tell from the coverage whether
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: or not that's a legitimate claim.
• 20:09
  Speaker 13: Or whether I think certainly the extremest hands of the
• 20:12
  Speaker 13: regime have been strengthened, you know, the IIGC that has
• 20:16
  Speaker 13: been strengthened that hand. But let's remember, as the many
• 20:20
  Speaker 13: millions of the Iranian diaspora show tell us time and again,
• 20:24
  Speaker 13: there are a lot of brave Iranians there who are
• 20:26
  Speaker 13: fed up with the regime. We had these massive protests
• 20:28
  Speaker 13: in January, but unfortunately they're quiet voices today.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Tom, It was a pleasure had
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: it short there because with the tell stratetag today want
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: to take you live to this latest update.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: From the communications giant. Thank you, Michael.
• 20:43
  Speaker 14: Hey great, thanks Steve Ye.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Turn the plug around audio, m good good to go.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Can you hear me testing YEA.
• 21:12
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I can so. Michael Ackland, CFO, Group CFO for Telstra.
• 21:18
  Speaker 14: Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for making the time to
• 21:21
  Speaker 14: come back together again. I wanted to provide an update
• 21:26
  Speaker 14: on today's out each and so when I briefed you
• 21:29
  Speaker 14: this morning at around ten am, we had just under
• 21:33
  Speaker 14: ninety percent of calls and data services back.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Up and running.
• 21:36
  Speaker 14: Since then, we've worked to restore all remaining services and
• 21:40
  Speaker 14: in good news, as a four pm today, we had
• 21:43
  Speaker 14: resolved all of the final issues and our network issues
• 21:46
  Speaker 14: are fully resolved. We know it will take some time
• 21:50
  Speaker 14: for devices on the network to reconnect correctly, and I
• 21:55
  Speaker 14: encourage customers still facing issues to restart their device. We're
• 22:01
  Speaker 14: working closely with many of our enterprise customers, as you
• 22:04
  Speaker 14: can imagine, on working through this and resolving those issues
• 22:07
  Speaker 14: from their end, and we have teams working on that
• 22:10
  Speaker 14: with many of our enterprise customers around the country. We
• 22:16
  Speaker 14: are still conducting our investigation into the root cause, but
• 22:21
  Speaker 14: we are confident we have identified a software defect we've
• 22:25
  Speaker 14: been able to isolate it. We'll provide further technical details
• 22:29
  Speaker 14: of this once that once we complete the investigation. I
• 22:33
  Speaker 14: want to be clear this was not the result of
• 22:36
  Speaker 14: a cyber incident. I also want to ask customers to
• 22:40
  Speaker 14: be extra vigilant about calls they receive at the moment
• 22:45
  Speaker 14: by people claiming to be Telstra. We have seen reports
• 22:49
  Speaker 14: of customers receiving calls from fraudsters trying to take advantage
• 22:53
  Speaker 14: of this moment, and our advice to our customers is if.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: You get a call from someone claiming to be.
• 22:57
  Speaker 14: Telstra asking you for details in light of today's outage, please.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: Hang up and call us back directly.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 23:05
  Speaker 14: Throughout today's mobile outage, we have monitored triple zero calls
• 23:09
  Speaker 14: very closely, and we talked about this this morning. We've
• 23:12
  Speaker 14: conducted testing of triple zero calls early this morning and
• 23:15
  Speaker 14: confirmed calling was working successfully. As part of our standard process,
• 23:19
  Speaker 14: we conducted welfare We conduct welfare checks when a triple
• 23:22
  Speaker 14: zero call is unsuccessful or is dropped after connecting. Now,
• 23:28
  Speaker 14: as of this afternoon, we've completed three hundred and thirty
• 23:31
  Speaker 14: three welfare checks.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: The way that we did that is we first sent
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: an SMS to customers.
• 23:38
  Speaker 14: One hundred and thirty or eight of those told us
• 23:40
  Speaker 14: they didn't need assistance.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: At that point, we.
• 23:44
  Speaker 14: Then called the remaining one hundred and eighty nine by
• 23:49
  Speaker 14: voice calls to get in contact with them. One hundred
• 23:51
  Speaker 14: and ten of those customers informed us that they did
• 23:53
  Speaker 14: not need assistance, and there are seventy nine calls that
• 23:57
  Speaker 14: we could not people we could not get in contact with,
• 23:59
  Speaker 14: and through the course of today, in real time, they
• 24:02
  Speaker 14: were referred to police in the various states and they
• 24:04
  Speaker 14: are doing a physical welfare check where they haven't responded.
• 24:08
  Speaker 14: We will hear more of that as we will hear
• 24:11
  Speaker 14: more of that from the police as we progress through
• 24:15
  Speaker 14: the next period of time. Now six customers out of
• 24:18
  Speaker 14: that three hundred and over three hundred customers told us
• 24:21
  Speaker 14: they needed assistance. That was addressed immediately and they were
• 24:24
  Speaker 14: referred to the emergency service that they needed to be
• 24:26
  Speaker 14: connect with. Now, the volume of these welfare checks was
• 24:30
  Speaker 14: higher than we expected, and it has prompted us to
• 24:33
  Speaker 14: investigate further as we said we would. Now we now
• 24:36
  Speaker 14: see that in some of these cases, customers phones were
• 24:39
  Speaker 14: not able to connect correctly on the first call attempt,
• 24:42
  Speaker 14: which prompted the US to call them back. We can
• 24:46
  Speaker 14: also confirm that in some of these cases, the call
• 24:49
  Speaker 14: was picked up appropriately by the TPG and Optus networks
• 24:52
  Speaker 14: and they have confirmed that with US and was successfully.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Connected as part of that three hundred.
• 24:59
  Speaker 14: Now, we expect members are inflated due to a large
• 25:02
  Speaker 14: number of people calling to test Triple zero because they
• 25:05
  Speaker 14: felt anxious around not being able to make calls and
• 25:08
  Speaker 14: as a flower as a flow on from our call issue.
• 25:10
  Speaker 14: So our backup systems worked as they should have through
• 25:13
  Speaker 14: this time. We know how much our customers need us
• 25:17
  Speaker 14: to get this right and rely on us to do
• 25:20
  Speaker 14: their jobs, run their businesses, keep safe and keep in touch.
• 25:23
  Speaker 14: And we are deeply sorry for the impact that this
• 25:26
  Speaker 14: has had today on so many people. I want to
• 25:29
  Speaker 14: also thank you for your patients and understanding as we've
• 25:32
  Speaker 14: worked to put things right today. We don't take that
• 25:35
  Speaker 14: patience for granted.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Thank you. I've got to questions.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I think that's there you go.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: That's the Telstra Chief Financial Officer, Michael Acklan. They're giving
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: an update confirming there have been problems with the Triples
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: zero services today and warning people to be skeptical if
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: they get calls saying they're coming from Telstra. The outages
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: situation dominating news today around the country. We're going to
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: take a short break. When we come back, I'll check
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: in on the UK and Nigel Faraja's amazing move last night.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Don't forget James.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Boldend, Nika Di Giorgio de Kama, also Esther Krak who
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: in London.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: But joining me on.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: The desk now is Dave Sharma, Shadow Assistant Treasurer.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Dave.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I was really keen to catch up with you after
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the Prime minister's trip to the Pacific. You also have
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: a shadow portfolio looking at the Pacific.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: It was a pretty sensible trip for the country.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Wasn't a lot of people wins about the money we
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: spent in the Pacific, but underpinning defense relations with Fiji
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: and Solomon Islands and the region in general is pretty important, right.
• 26:45
  Speaker 15: It is important, and I'm glad the promise to made
• 26:47
  Speaker 15: the trip, and I think the signing of the security
• 26:49
  Speaker 15: agreements on that trip was a welcome step and the
• 26:51
  Speaker 15: Coalition certainly welcomed it. It's about making sure Australia's positioned
• 26:55
  Speaker 15: as the partner of first choice in a region that's
• 26:57
  Speaker 15: more contested and we're outside powers to take a much
• 27:00
  Speaker 15: closer interest in a way that could be deeply harmful
• 27:03
  Speaker 15: to Australia's interests.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: And fig that defense deal is pretty significant. It's a
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: significant country with what would have the strongest military in
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the South.
• 27:12
  Speaker 15: Pacific, probably the most capable military. They're not the largest
• 27:15
  Speaker 15: country in the Pacific, but they're one of the largest economies,
• 27:17
  Speaker 15: and they're the host of a lot of the regional
• 27:20
  Speaker 15: institutions and secretariats, and they've got the best transport links.
• 27:24
  Speaker 15: They're probably the most sophisticated economy they in. The Fijian
• 27:27
  Speaker 15: military participates in peacekeeping exercises around the world, so they've
• 27:31
  Speaker 15: got a high level of professionalism and discipline. And I
• 27:34
  Speaker 15: think that security agreement is a very important one because
• 27:36
  Speaker 15: they are one of the most vital countries in the
• 27:38
  Speaker 15: Pacific from their location but also their capability.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, another country that's pretty important because of the history there,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: the history of domestic strife and and the role Australia
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: has played there is Solomon Islands. Anthony Albanezi went there
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and the Prime Minister. Because of that Chinese missile test,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: we've been worried about them getting too strongly into the
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Chinese orbit. He has actually moved to say about China,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: don't threaten us.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: That was an encouraging sign.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe a miscalculation by China, I think it has I
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: think this test should be seen as a miscalculation by China.
• 28:14
  Speaker 15: I met with A Solomon I as Prime Minister a
• 28:16
  Speaker 15: month or two ago when he was in camera with
• 28:18
  Speaker 15: some of my coalition colleagues, and I was very impressed
• 28:21
  Speaker 15: with his clear sighted strategic picture in the region and
• 28:25
  Speaker 15: the sense that he wanted to move his country closer
• 28:29
  Speaker 15: to Australia and strengthen security and defense ties, which this
• 28:32
  Speaker 15: visit has now done. But I think, look, you know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 15: the region has been big for some time. I'm making
• 28:37
  Speaker 15: sure that outside powers don't use their areas of contests
• 28:40
  Speaker 15: for military influence. And I think China's testing of a
• 28:44
  Speaker 15: submarine launched intocontinental ballistic missile that overflew their espace and
• 28:48
  Speaker 15: landed in their waterways can only be seen by them
• 28:50
  Speaker 15: as a destabilizing and threatening action.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Do we think it could have been time to coincide
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: with Anthony Albanese's visit or would this have all been
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: set in place a long time ago.
• 29:00
  Speaker 15: Look, obviously I don't have the answer to that, but
• 29:03
  Speaker 15: my suspicion is that these things, these testing protocols, take
• 29:07
  Speaker 15: some time to prepare and take some weeks to prepare.
• 29:09
  Speaker 15: It's not the sort of thing he can turn on
• 29:10
  Speaker 15: the Diamond turn on in a matter of hours or days.
• 29:13
  Speaker 15: So I think the timing was more fortuitous from China's perspective,
• 29:18
  Speaker 15: but I think it is the contrast is quite important
• 29:21
  Speaker 15: that here is Australia tightening relationships in a way that
• 29:24
  Speaker 15: supports the countries of the region with these alliances at
• 29:29
  Speaker 15: the same time that China is basically rattling a saber
• 29:32
  Speaker 15: of the region.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I don't like to give Anthony album Easy too much
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: credit because he's lied and broken promises and he's been
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: weak on so many issues when it comes to foreign affairs,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: especially in the Middle East. But at the risk of
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: overdoing it, it's not a bad move by him on
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the back of this taking some of these specific leaders
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: to the State of Origin in Brisbane tonight. That's good
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: soft diplomacy. Is that they love their league.
• 29:56
  Speaker 15: It is they love rugby league. I think it's great
• 29:58
  Speaker 15: that they're all at the final, the State of Origin match.
• 30:01
  Speaker 15: Hopefully the Blues win. I know that we're playing at
• 30:03
  Speaker 15: lang Parks. It's a big ask, but you know, if
• 30:06
  Speaker 15: we can repeat that performance from game one, I think
• 30:08
  Speaker 15: we're in with a good shot.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I hope they do, mate, but I'll tell you what,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: if I can sit here and praise Anthony Alberdez He's diplomacy,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: then maybe Blues can get up tonight.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Chris Dave Sama, the Shadow Assistant Minister
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: for Treasury and also responsible for the Pacific.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: We're going to get to a break.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: After that, we'll cross to London and catch up with
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Esther Krak who find out about these amazing moves by
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: that man there, the Reform leader Nigel Farage.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's get back to the mercurial.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Nigel Farage and that by election, which he says is
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: about the people versus the establishment is sky UK.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: That was the claim by Nigel Farage as he made
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: his shock announcements that he plans to resign as an
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: MP and fight a by election. I have not broken
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: the laws to Farage is under a parliamentary investigation into
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: an undeclared five million pounds do Nation from Christopher Harborne.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: He's also now facing a further inquiry into his links
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: with a longtime friend and ally convicted fraudster George Kotchell. Labor,
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: the Conservatives, the lib Dems and Restore Britain said they
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: won't be standing in the by election. It's obvious why
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: he's doing it.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: He is up to his neck in sleeves.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I should add that sky UK, which has no direct
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: affiliation with US, is one of the media organizations that
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: is in the sights of Nigel Ferras. Let's cross to
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: London and catch up with writer and broadcaster. It's the
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: krak who as we do. So this was remarkable. I
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: watched it unfold live last night our time. It seems
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: to me that it's a pretty ingenious move by Farags
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: to try and put all these investigations and allegations behind
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: him and start afresh.
• 31:57
  Speaker 16: If nothing else. Is quite hilarious because even if he
• 32:01
  Speaker 16: does win, and it looks like he's going to win,
• 32:03
  Speaker 16: because his opponent, because none of the major parties that's
• 32:06
  Speaker 16: spanning our kid, is a bin with a face on it,
• 32:10
  Speaker 16: So I can assume rightly that he's probably going to win.
• 32:14
  Speaker 16: But if you listen closely, you can hear the bustle
• 32:16
  Speaker 16: with the barrel being scraped. Because we have the likes
• 32:19
  Speaker 16: of Kiirs Starmer, who's had to resign partly because of
• 32:22
  Speaker 16: scandals of his own, calling Niger Farag's operation a sleeve first,
• 32:27
  Speaker 16: which is just the most ironic thing you've ever heard
• 32:29
  Speaker 16: in your entire life. But this is the kind of
• 32:31
  Speaker 16: theater that we routinely expect from Westminster because Niger Farrag
• 32:35
  Speaker 16: is probably going to win a by election that he's triggered. Now,
• 32:37
  Speaker 16: obviously there's the questions about why he's costing the public
• 32:42
  Speaker 16: the kinds of money that's going to cost to run
• 32:44
  Speaker 16: a by election in the first place. Just to prove
• 32:45
  Speaker 16: a point, he's made a point of saying that he's
• 32:48
  Speaker 16: been treated particularly unfairly by the likes of Sky News
• 32:51
  Speaker 16: and the BBC over there haranguing him for his recent
• 32:56
  Speaker 16: donations from people that are very interested in seeing rise
• 33:01
  Speaker 16: and just to put it into perspective, that five million dollar,
• 33:04
  Speaker 16: five million pounds gift donation that has caused all this
• 33:09
  Speaker 16: huroory is a significant chunk of reforms budget because just
• 33:13
  Speaker 16: a couple of years ago their running budget was under
• 33:16
  Speaker 16: five million pounds, which in comparison to the likes of
• 33:18
  Speaker 16: the Labor Party and the Conservative Party, which are usually
• 33:20
  Speaker 16: running into the tens of millions. I think the Conservative
• 33:23
  Speaker 16: was around the Conservative Party was around thirty million pounds.
• 33:26
  Speaker 16: It's nothing to scoff at, but he is insisting that
• 33:29
  Speaker 16: he hasn't broken the law, and if he had, there
• 33:32
  Speaker 16: would actually have been formal investigations of him and he
• 33:35
  Speaker 16: would have been sanctioned. So I think there's he's making
• 33:38
  Speaker 16: a fair point there, But it's kind of funny that
• 33:41
  Speaker 16: none of the major parties are standing, which is just
• 33:43
  Speaker 16: proving his point that if I'm so terrible for my constituents,
• 33:46
  Speaker 16: why don't you stand and remove me, which again is
• 33:49
  Speaker 16: an interesting way to deflect attention from this issue, and
• 33:52
  Speaker 16: it's certainly never been done before.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I think any attacks either having an unnecessary by election
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: are easily to defend it because the Labor Party has
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: just triggered a by election of course, so that they
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: could change leaders, so that've played the same cynical game.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Tell us about how.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: This works though, because as you say, if there's no police,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: if there's no breaking of the law, what he's dealing
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: with his parliamentary inquiries about the standards, now, they would
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: cease when he's out of parliament, So the minute he
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: resigns that those investigations would cease. But of course once
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: he gets back into parliament they could reactivate those investigations.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: But this is where his argument is.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Hang on a second, all that stuff's been out there publicly,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: and the people have re elected me, so the people
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: of the ultimate power leave all this stuff alone.
• 34:39
  Speaker 16: Yes, And it ultimately just it's like egg on the
• 34:42
  Speaker 16: face of the people that are pushing this inquiry, which
• 34:44
  Speaker 16: again is kind of the ingenuity of this move, and
• 34:47
  Speaker 16: I think he's just showing the Labor Party how hypercritical
• 34:50
  Speaker 16: they are. I mean, Andy Burnham is going to become
• 34:53
  Speaker 16: a prime minister because he bullied some poor sod who
• 34:55
  Speaker 16: rightly won his seat to step aside so that he
• 34:58
  Speaker 16: can take his chances back in westmin so after actually
• 35:00
  Speaker 16: leaving Westminster for over a decade. So the fact that
• 35:04
  Speaker 16: the Labour Party has anything to say, let alone to
• 35:06
  Speaker 16: call this sleezyes is laughable to say the least. And
• 35:09
  Speaker 16: I think the one glaring point that they're missing most
• 35:13
  Speaker 16: of the mainstream media they're attacking at nide frag on
• 35:15
  Speaker 16: this is the fact that he's not going to he's
• 35:16
  Speaker 16: not Prime minister, he's not the leader of the Opposition,
• 35:19
  Speaker 16: at least not formally, and he doesn't have the same responsibilities.
• 35:22
  Speaker 16: How can they possibly have a problem with this when
• 35:24
  Speaker 16: they basically shoehorned a man who has no business in
• 35:27
  Speaker 16: Westminster because he bullied a colleague of his to basically
• 35:31
  Speaker 16: step down. Now, some will say he negotiated his way out,
• 35:34
  Speaker 16: some would say that he wanted to save the country.
• 35:37
  Speaker 16: But this was a man that was rightly elected as
• 35:39
  Speaker 16: an MP and then suddenly stepped down so that Andy
• 35:42
  Speaker 16: Burnham could go could take on a four million pound
• 35:46
  Speaker 16: by election to get back into Westminster. If that's not sleazy,
• 35:49
  Speaker 16: I don't know what it is.
• 35:50
  Speaker 17: Now.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: The other aspect of this, which I think resonates with
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of people, is that when you get these
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: right of send the populist leaders riley against the establishment,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: so often it's the established that sets the lawyers or
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the authorities onto them. If it seemed just recently recently
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Mariene Le Penn of course being prosecuted in France. Nobody
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: needs to be reminded about the countless inquiries and court
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: cases directed at Donald Trump in the US. And I
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: just want to put a picture up here today of
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Pauline Hanson, the Australian fire brand who's in the UK
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: at the moment. She caught up with Holly Vance, a
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: former Australian actress has become a conservative commentator. Pauline Hanson
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: was pursued all the way to prison before she overturned
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: charges of electoral fraud.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: So there's a bit of a theme here, isn't there.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: And often that these pursuits, these legalistic pursuits, can be
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: winned under the wings of the populist campaigners.
• 36:49
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean this form of law fair has a
• 36:52
  Speaker 16: track record of actually feeling because it looks like the
• 36:55
  Speaker 16: establishment is out to get them. And then you think, well,
• 36:57
  Speaker 16: if politics are supposed to be a battleground of ideas,
• 37:00
  Speaker 16: why are you trying to silence leaders that represent a
• 37:04
  Speaker 16: significant portion of the country. I mean, Marie La Penn
• 37:07
  Speaker 16: won ten million votes to ten million votes of people
• 37:11
  Speaker 16: in France in a country of a population of sixty
• 37:13
  Speaker 16: seven million or close to seventy million, so she's not
• 37:16
  Speaker 16: an insignificant leader. And yet when you see these kinds
• 37:18
  Speaker 16: of actions being taken against them, regardless of whether you
• 37:21
  Speaker 16: agree with them or not, you see people turning against
• 37:23
  Speaker 16: the establishment because they're basically terrified. I mean, for Nigel
• 37:26
  Speaker 16: Farage to be facing allegations from the Labor Party over
• 37:30
  Speaker 16: sleeves as hilarious. The former deputy leader Angela Raina had
• 37:33
  Speaker 16: to resign of her own unpaid taxes, even though she
• 37:37
  Speaker 16: insisted she didn't break the law. I'm sorry, it sounds
• 37:39
  Speaker 16: very suspicious that the Revenue didn't find her for forty
• 37:45
  Speaker 16: pounds in underpaid taxes. I don't know anyone that can
• 37:47
  Speaker 16: get away with even ten pounds in underpaid taxes without
• 37:50
  Speaker 16: a giant letter on one hundred and fifty quid fine
• 37:52
  Speaker 16: at minimum. The Labor Party is just hypocritical.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Really they are, indeed, they are indeed, thanks so much
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: for joining us.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Have a dull in the politics in the UK. It's
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: the Cracker. They're live from London.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: We're going to take a break on the other side,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: we'll have a little bit more of a look with
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: the panel at.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Our own politics.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: And now I'm prime ministerial antics not being questioned today
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Anthony Albanezi given a leave pass by the media. Let's
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: get into the Wednesday wrangle. I'm joined by Denika the
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Georgio as Eva and Sky News digital guru James Bolt.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: If you're a digital guru, why couldn't you fix the
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Telstra problems today?
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Was that just some guy at Telstra who's.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Clicked on the wrong add on his on his Facebook
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: account or something?
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, I could you imagine?
• 38:40
  Speaker 18: But I also, like, you know, the head of the
• 38:42
  Speaker 18: company over in like a vineyard tour somewhere, just getting
• 38:45
  Speaker 18: the call like you need me to do what next flight?
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: That's a terrible day.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the chief financial officers having the front the media
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: he did a pretty good job.
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: I thought, you know, considering he did a he did
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: a decent job at Gee. That was a big blunder
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: given the back given off the back of what happened
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: with Optus last year and so many customers went from
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: Optus to Telstra and it still happened to Telstra. Disaster
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: for business.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I know we didn't have this topic on our list
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: of topics to discuss, but what cracks me.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Up about this?
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Of course you're going to have glitches, and I'm not
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: apologizing for Telstra, but the thing is, James, so much
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: of our lives is caught up in that phone.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: You can't buy anything, you can't go anywhere, you can't
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: communicate with anyone, you can't do your banking.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Your whole life stops.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:28
  Speaker 18: I look when Barnaby Joyce had that interview this morning
• 39:31
  Speaker 18: talking about how he's worrying like China had something to
• 39:33
  Speaker 18: do with it. That was a real moment of just
• 39:35
  Speaker 18: going like if another you know, Will Bower wanted to
• 39:39
  Speaker 18: do something to Australia, how easy it can be done
• 39:41
  Speaker 18: and how much things can go ground to a halt
• 39:43
  Speaker 18: here immediately.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: It's quite scary to think about China does that.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: They stop all our windmills, and stop all our cars
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: and stop all our phones.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: There you go, Well that's it.
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: When they're ready, Let's be honest. On our coast, they're
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: firing off flares. We've got the defense mishaps. So if
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: this is the case, what while telecommunications is next? Chris,
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: anything's possi.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Alba will be strong Albow and Penny won't preferred, dear leader,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: if you didn't do that to us, now tell us
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: about this right. Albo has this huge embarrassment really in
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: political terms, as a prime minister, to be exposed for
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: saying something so crass about Kylie Minogue. When you've stood
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: up as been the great defender of women and you're.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Against quite explicitically he says.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: He's against the objectification of women when he does that,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: and it's a big news story in most plays.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: There's not on the ABC. I shouldn't know it.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: But he comes back from overseas and the journos don't
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: even ask him one question. Excuse me, prime minister, why
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: did you apologize over that podcast?
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: I am actually shocked that not one question was directed.
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: He's way today. Obviously he's been overseas he's now front
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: of the media. This would have been a prime time
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: moment to say, Prime Minister, you've apologized since there's been
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: massive backlash, or the fact that this has gone international.
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: Now what about his comments over the melons. He still
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: hasn't fronted up about that, and I actually think that
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: that was highly offensive. But you're right, Chris, this is
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: a man who claims to be the fighter of the
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: champion of women's rights, has the most women in his cabinet,
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: and yet you know he's not just your average joe
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: blow down at the pub having a beer with mates
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: talking crap. He is the prime minister of this country
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: and now he is an international laughing stock. It's gone worldwide, UK,
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: US News, China News for goodness sake, and the fact
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: that nobody thought to maybe pose a question while he's
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: back on home So I don't understand.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: It's a sad indictment.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: It's a sad indictment on those women in cabinet that
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: you mentioned. I mean, they've all been struck dumb. None
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: of them has said anything critical about this. And James
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the journalist, now we know there's a whole lot of
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: big issues where there's a media bias in this country.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: You look at climate and renewable energy and immigration and
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the like, But to me, this one is so obvious.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: It just stands out for people that were a prime minister.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: When he's suffering this sort of embarrassment something he's actually
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: issued a statement apologizing for that. There's no one who
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: even has this spine to ask him about it. Do
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: you think that that's just just almost involuntary weakness by
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: the journalists or do you think they are media minders
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: basically intimidating them.
• 42:11
  Speaker 18: Look, I'm going to answer this in two ways. One
• 42:13
  Speaker 18: is the afternoon editor. There should have been questions. I
• 42:15
  Speaker 18: think any journalist had asked a question and the Prime
• 42:18
  Speaker 18: Minister would have rudly shut them down about it.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 42:20
  Speaker 18: I mean there's a six o'clock news bulletin right there,
• 42:22
  Speaker 18: there's the front like our journalists got into a fight
• 42:24
  Speaker 18: with Alban Easy and I think you know that would
• 42:26
  Speaker 18: have been great looked to the media minds. Yes, it
• 42:28
  Speaker 18: probably would have cost them future questions, future interviews with
• 42:31
  Speaker 18: the Prime minister if.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: He did that.
• 42:33
  Speaker 18: So that's like the news side of me. But then
• 42:35
  Speaker 18: the personal side to me just speaking is James Bolt
• 42:38
  Speaker 18: I don't want to hear anything more about alber Easy
• 42:40
  Speaker 18: and Carli Minogue. I've heard it all. It's a terrible
• 42:42
  Speaker 18: mental image. I'm sick of having it in my head.
• 42:44
  Speaker 18: So look, you know, on some level all those journalists
• 42:47
  Speaker 18: did me a favor today that I didn't need to
• 42:49
  Speaker 18: hear the word Shag and Albin Ezi in the same sound.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I beg to differ here. I don't want to hear
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: much more about either. James, but I think this extends it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I think that asked him about it today and he
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: said he's a apology in front of the cameras, then
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: it would have been a license for everyone to move on.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: But I'm not going to let it go now. He
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: has to answer a question in front of a camera.
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: Absolutely, But even James, if a journalist had asked the
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: question today, and even if Anthony Albanezi had said, I've
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: got nothing further to say about this.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: That's your story. That is your story.
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: The Prime minister refusing to take responsibility when he comes
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: back on home soil. So I'd like to think that
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: tomorrow he will be asked about it. I mean, if
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: there's any journals out there going to be going to
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: any Anthony, but easy presses.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Please ask.
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: But I don't think that you should think, oh, oh, well,
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: what happens if I don't get a scoop down the line. No,
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: I think it's in the public interest to ask these questions.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I've got to say I'm a little envious of Pauline
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Hanson at the moment.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Have a look.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I think I showed this picture earlier to Estherocrat who
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: she's in the UK. She caught up with the former
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Australian actress Holly Vance. Has become a bit of a
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: conservative spokesperson and this picture here has taken it at the.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Farmer's Dog at Jeremy Klas Farm and I've become a
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: bit of a Clarkson's farm family.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I love the show James, and I'd just love to
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: be there having a drink as the farmer's dog.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I think the pub is called.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: But very interesting that Pauline's in the UK at the
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: moment catching up with Holly Vance, and expecting to catch
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: up with Nigel Farage as well.
• 44:18
  Speaker 18: That would be interesting. You can always tell how things
• 44:21
  Speaker 18: are going by body language, like I always come back
• 44:23
  Speaker 18: to like in the lead up to the US election,
• 44:25
  Speaker 18: when Kamala Harris was looking very stressed in press conferences
• 44:28
  Speaker 18: and quiet short with people, and Donald Trump spent the
• 44:30
  Speaker 18: day working at McDonald's. Like that was the kind of
• 44:33
  Speaker 18: stuff where I'm like, this is going so well that
• 44:35
  Speaker 18: nothing can rocket and you think like this is a
• 44:37
  Speaker 18: time where one nation have a lot of political momentum.
• 44:40
  Speaker 18: Then the number one in Sky News Pulse, this is
• 44:42
  Speaker 18: the time you want to be in the country campaign
• 44:44
  Speaker 18: and getting more voters across. But she's relaxed enough that
• 44:47
  Speaker 18: she can be in London at a pub because she
• 44:50
  Speaker 18: knows that party's not going anywhere.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she's going to a Conservative conference while
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: she's overseas as well, and swapping notes with Nigel Farage
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: will be very interesting now whether that's changed with his
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: resignation and everything is going on, but I would expect
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: that they'd have a lot to share.
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: Absolutely when you think about it, Pauline Hanson is on
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: the same trajectory as Nigel Farage. Obviously, putting aside what
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: happened yesterday. Nigel Farage had been in line to be
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: the next prime minister. The polls here suggest that Pauline
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: Hanson is exactly the same He has presented that alternative
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: base where people are turning off the major parties in
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: the UK, the exact same thing is happening here. So
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: I think that they have a lot to learn off
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: one another. They've got to say Chris. A lot of
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: the commentary online about that photo of Holly Balance and
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: Pauline Hanson posted to commented on the fact that there
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: was so much froth on that beer' that's what there
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: it is, So that was the main comments on that one.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Well, there'd be your pom and your warm beer, wouldn't
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: it exactly. I'm willing to get over there to check
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: it out.
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: You know, Holly Balance has become such an icon for
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: the right. She's come a long way from her neighbour's
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: days and now.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Look at her.
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: She's a real spokesperson and on her for speaking of mind.
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: We actually need more people with her prominence to do that.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: What about the Labor Party that come up with a
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: really weird strategy to try to combat one nation. It
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: involves welcome the countries. Here's one controversial one.
• 46:14
  Speaker 17: Well, welcome the country is not a ceremony that we've
• 46:18
  Speaker 17: invented to cater for white people. It's a ceremony we've
• 46:23
  Speaker 17: been doing for two hundred and fifty thousand years plus
• 46:27
  Speaker 17: BC and the BC stands for before Cook.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that was about two hundred thousand years out
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: or so. But the interesting thing, James is that Labour
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: think the way to respond to one nation is to
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: formalize the welcome the country, to sort of make it
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: standard practice, basically make it the law of the land,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: which I would have thought was exactly the opposite thing
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: they need to do. But people, most people like me
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: who support welcome the country at the right time and
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: right place, we all can see it's overdone.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:59
  Speaker 18: I think think Australian's the general public, their relationship with
• 47:03
  Speaker 18: the culture was. They don't really come down on any
• 47:05
  Speaker 18: one side, but they do tend to be, in my opinion,
• 47:07
  Speaker 18: just whoever they're against, whoever bought it up. So when
• 47:11
  Speaker 18: it comes down to welcome the countries, if there is
• 47:12
  Speaker 18: one side of politics that's really pushing it as the
• 47:15
  Speaker 18: political issue and we want more welcome to countries or
• 47:17
  Speaker 18: we want no welcome new countries, I think the general
• 47:20
  Speaker 18: public start to go I don't want to talk about it,
• 47:22
  Speaker 18: and I'm resentful that it's a conversation. So I find
• 47:25
  Speaker 18: the original source and I reject it. So I think, look,
• 47:28
  Speaker 18: that's quite a way to think about the general Australian public.
• 47:31
  Speaker 18: If you think they want more welcome the countries.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Well yeah.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: And the point is if Labor are going to formalize
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: it in their platform deniculously, it's like you had the
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Voice referendum.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Weren't you listening? Yeah? Were they listening?
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: Who were the heck in Labor thinks that this is
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: a good idea. Seriously, are they not reading the mood
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: of the nation. There is a reason why Pauline Hanson
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: is ahead of the polls, there is a reason why
• 47:51
  Speaker 7: one nation is doing so well.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: And they also want to talk.
• 47:54
  Speaker 7: About racism as well as part of these changes. It
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: is not racist to have a discussion about mass migration.
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: And once again Labor are failing to listen to the
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: tone of the Australian people when the majority of Australians
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: know that migration is out of control. They see it
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: because the cost of living crisis, the housing crisis. Again,
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure who in Labor thinks that this is
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: just a tremendous idea, but please go ahead, because it's
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: great for one nation. When you think about it.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: What the Labor Party really needs in their platform is
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: a welcome to reality.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the real world. Good joint.
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: Absolutely, they need a reality check.
• 48:27
  Speaker 18: Is that a speech you give for the start of
• 48:29
  Speaker 18: every conference?
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: They get me to open each of the Labor Party conference.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I'd enjoy that. It's just been getting out. That would
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: be the hard bet. Thanks for joining us, James and Denika.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Have we got time just for a couple of your
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: bits of feedback from what we had to what we
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: shared with you last night when it came to defense
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: and five hundred dollars light bulbs? Five hundred dollars a
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: light bulb? Are they hiring electricians? I'd like it, job,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: says one viewer. Another one says, Seriously, this country gets
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: more ridiculous.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: By the day.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: We need a complete overhaul of government bureaucracy and the
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: public's service that we do. We need a government that
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: believes in small government. I just don't see it coming
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: anytime soon. Thanks for watching. I'll be back tomorrow night.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Here's Jamie Rodgers filling anthropedic credit