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- 0:03Speaker 1: Somewhere in the vowels of the city that Never sleeps.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough, radio host with Sailor Medium is a.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Man also not sleeping, and that guy would like a
- 0:15Speaker 2: word review.
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- 0:19Speaker 3: Of course, that Kevin Show is going to be great.
- 0:21Speaker 1: The only thing that could.
- 0:21Speaker 4: Be greater, of course, would be that Donald Show, but
- 0:23Speaker 4: we don't have that. So we have that Kevin.
- 0:25Speaker 5: Show featuring the music of Dick Honey and the Dream in.
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- 0:42Speaker 5: Everything you need to know about the top headlines of
- 0:45Speaker 5: the day, and a perspective that will give you some
- 0:48Speaker 5: eternity to it, plus practical tips for family life, spiritual life,
- 0:54Speaker 5: and good old regular life. It's Kevin McCullough Monday through
- 0:59Speaker 5: Friday on did that Heavin go? And now from the
- 1:09Speaker 5: Connors and Sullivan Broadcast studios, the man who is not
- 1:13Speaker 5: what he wants to be, but is way grateful that
- 1:17Speaker 5: is not who he used to be.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Here, Welcome aboard, Kevin mccallough. Glad have you with us.
- 1:26Speaker 1: It's the Wednesday edition. Lots of interesting stuff to get
- 1:30Speaker 1: to in the next two hours. I really do. It's
- 1:33Speaker 1: one of these things where people have asked, keV, do
- 1:35Speaker 1: you enjoy doing the show that you do now? And
- 1:38Speaker 1: I have to say, I enjoyed doing this show more
- 1:40Speaker 1: than I've ever enjoyed doing any of the shows I've
- 1:43Speaker 1: ever done. And you're the biggest reason why, because those
- 1:46Speaker 1: of you that listen and interact with us and respond
- 1:50Speaker 1: and do all the things that you do make it
- 1:52Speaker 1: exceedingly special. But when I was a kid growing up
- 1:55Speaker 1: listening to Rush Limbaugh, I thought I was going to be, like,
- 1:57Speaker 1: you know, the big conservative talk radio star, And it
- 2:01Speaker 1: was pretty clear that that wasn't going to be my
- 2:04Speaker 1: permanent path because I really enjoyed talking about my faith
- 2:08Speaker 1: and faith and news talk didn't seem to work in
- 2:12Speaker 1: markets where I was growing up, and so I just
- 2:14Speaker 1: tried to get better at being a great talk show
- 2:16Speaker 1: host on all levels. And then as I joined Salem
- 2:20Speaker 1: a few years ago and had a chance to dip
- 2:22Speaker 1: my toe in the water of doing daily talk radio,
- 2:25Speaker 1: loved that, met a lot of icons, Barry Farber and
- 2:30Speaker 1: others in the business, and then went away from Salem
- 2:33Speaker 1: for a little while and started my own syndication work
- 2:36Speaker 1: and got up on running on a bunch of stations
- 2:38Speaker 1: on the weekend, and that was fun. And then Salem
- 2:40Speaker 1: brought me back Phil Boyce. I guess he was just
- 2:42Speaker 1: a glutton for punishment. He said, I want to work
- 2:45Speaker 1: with that Kevin guy, and I'm joking by the way.
- 2:49Speaker 1: I was humbled and astonished that Phil Boyce, who's kind
- 2:55Speaker 1: of a king maker in our business, even knew what
- 2:57Speaker 1: I was doing. So the fact that he should to
- 3:00Speaker 1: any interest at all was a humbling thing that I
- 3:02Speaker 1: was thankful for. But then when we started talking about
- 3:06Speaker 1: bringing the show to the network and to the nation,
- 3:08Speaker 1: in the spots where we're at, in some places we're
- 3:11Speaker 1: in for Eric Mataxis, where Eric Texas was, in some
- 3:14Speaker 1: places wherein where Charlie Kirk was, and for those of
- 3:17Speaker 1: you on those stations who have been nothing but incredibly
- 3:19Speaker 1: gracious and so kind. I just my heart is full.
- 3:24Speaker 1: And when I tell you what's on today's show, you
- 3:26Speaker 1: may think, well, that's an odd combination of stuff. It is,
- 3:31Speaker 1: And here's the thing, because I'm passionate about all of it.
- 3:34Speaker 1: I want you to be passionate about all of it
- 3:36Speaker 1: because it's something that I find of interest and I'm
- 3:39Speaker 1: going to try to make it an interesting storytelling experience
- 3:42Speaker 1: for you. I hope that it does. But at the
- 3:45Speaker 1: end of the day, I love talking about my faith.
- 3:47Speaker 1: I love talking about the issues that we face in
- 3:49Speaker 1: the country today, in the world today. I love talking
- 3:52Speaker 1: about what's going well, and I love helping us figure
- 3:54Speaker 1: out how to do it better. So in the next
- 3:56Speaker 1: couple of hours, we're going to talk about wellness. We've
- 3:59Speaker 1: got an incredible dynamo, doctor Laura Perty. If you've never
- 4:03Speaker 1: heard her on my show, she is just incredible. But
- 4:07Speaker 1: we're going to talk with her about a very wide
- 4:09Speaker 1: range of health things. We're also going to talk about
- 4:12Speaker 1: a major ruling from the Supreme Court that didn't get
- 4:15Speaker 1: a lot of play because the War is sucking up
- 4:18Speaker 1: all the oxygen. The thing I love about this show,
- 4:21Speaker 1: I can tell you all the latest that's going on
- 4:22Speaker 1: in the War, and I can tell you about stuff
- 4:24Speaker 1: that's going on in the Supreme Court that every parent
- 4:26Speaker 1: in the country is going to care about. I promise you,
- 4:31Speaker 1: especially if you're a parent in California, you're gonna care
- 4:35Speaker 1: about what I have to tell you about that coming up.
- 4:37Speaker 1: And then we're entering I don't know if you've noticed this,
- 4:40Speaker 1: we're entering a season where Lent leading up to Holy Week,
- 4:44Speaker 1: people are starting to think about spiritual things in a
- 4:46Speaker 1: way that maybe they haven't been in recent weeks or months.
- 4:50Speaker 1: And there's a new initiative that I am in cooperation
- 4:54Speaker 1: with a group called Open the Bible in where we're
- 4:57Speaker 1: going to try to get the Gospel told on people
- 5:00Speaker 1: personal devices and TV screens and on their radios and
- 5:03Speaker 1: in their podcasts listening in a way that's never been
- 5:06Speaker 1: attempted before. We want to have one hundred million people
- 5:11Speaker 1: be exposed to the Gospel between now and Resurrection Sunday,
- 5:14Speaker 1: and I'm hopeful that you will help us in doing it.
- 5:16Speaker 1: We're not asking you for a dime to get any
- 5:18Speaker 1: of that done. By the way, Open the Bible is
- 5:21Speaker 1: doing all the heavy lifting gonna I'm gonna wave the
- 5:24Speaker 1: flag for it, but ultimately the work is going to
- 5:26Speaker 1: be yours. We're going to give you some tools. You
- 5:29Speaker 1: can organize events in your home. You can have a private, quiet,
- 5:32Speaker 1: one on one night with maybe just a friend. You've
- 5:34Speaker 1: been trying to tell about the good news, but it
- 5:37Speaker 1: is it is the time of year where we have
- 5:40Speaker 1: the good news retold for us. And along those lines,
- 5:44Speaker 1: how do we live today? We're going to take another
- 5:46Speaker 1: step into the story of the Prodigal Son, and Bishop
- 5:50Speaker 1: Hugh Nelson is going to be with us from New York.
- 5:54Speaker 1: We're going to look at the father in that story.
- 5:57Speaker 1: And the thing about the father in the story of
- 5:59Speaker 1: the prodigal Son is that that dude had every reason
- 6:03Speaker 1: to hate his son and to be unkind and to
- 6:05Speaker 1: be judgmental, and to do all the stuff that I
- 6:08Speaker 1: would probably want to do if I was a dad,
- 6:10Speaker 1: if my son came to me and said, Dad, I
- 6:12Speaker 1: wish you were dead, Like, I don't know how grateful
- 6:15Speaker 1: I would be. Actually, I would hope that I would
- 6:18Speaker 1: be gracious and kind and compassionate. But the story that
- 6:22Speaker 1: we're looking at, the aspect of the story we're looking
- 6:25Speaker 1: at today, I just as I was studying it just
- 6:27Speaker 1: ripped my heart out. So hang on because that's coming
- 6:30Speaker 1: up next. And then we're going to talk about being
- 6:32Speaker 1: strategic this this Holy Week season as we're just closing
- 6:36Speaker 1: in now, as Lint is underway and we're getting closer
- 6:38Speaker 1: to Holy Week all the time. But let me get
- 6:40Speaker 1: you cut up on what's going on in the news,
- 6:42Speaker 1: because there there's a lot of stuff happening and just
- 6:47Speaker 1: some highlights. The US Secretary of War Pete Hegseth says
- 6:53Speaker 1: that we have sank sunk. The US Navy has sunk
- 7:00Speaker 1: the prized Iranian battle flagship that they have in their navy.
- 7:06Speaker 1: There is a ship that they are very very proud of,
- 7:09Speaker 1: and we have we hit it twice and it is
- 7:11Speaker 1: now on the bottom of the ocean, and that's a
- 7:14Speaker 1: good place for it to be, and we're winning on that.
- 7:18Speaker 1: The Secretary of War also announcing today that you may
- 7:21Speaker 1: remember that the Iranians had threatened to assassinate President Trump,
- 7:25Speaker 1: and there's still some question as to whether or not
- 7:28Speaker 1: they were behind one or more of the assassination attempts
- 7:30Speaker 1: against Trump in recent months. Well, the leader that was
- 7:34Speaker 1: behind that effort from the Iranian side has been hunted
- 7:39Speaker 1: down and now killed in the Iran war actions. So
- 7:44Speaker 1: that's a positive and I think that it's going to
- 7:47Speaker 1: be very very interesting to see how many more kind
- 7:53Speaker 1: of ancillary benefits we get to the war on Terror,
- 7:56Speaker 1: because we're eliminating everybody that was part of that evil,
- 8:01Speaker 1: heinous regime. On the Supreme Court front, by the way,
- 8:05Speaker 1: not only have they ruled in favor of parents on
- 8:07Speaker 1: a very important ruling. But they are also announcing that
- 8:11Speaker 1: Scotus will determine the San Jose State University volleyball scandal
- 8:17Speaker 1: outcome after the judge there kind of just gave a
- 8:22Speaker 1: free pass to the wrongdoers. So you got a lot
- 8:27Speaker 1: of stuff related to helping protect and keep our kids safe.
- 8:32Speaker 1: We've got a lot of winning on the warfront that
- 8:35Speaker 1: is happening as we're kicking off today's show, and we've
- 8:39Speaker 1: got a lot of really, really great things to talk about.
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- 10:08Speaker 3: Here.
- 10:08Speaker 7: He is from New York. That n Kevin McCullough.
- 10:15Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. It's Kevin McCullough. It's Wednesday edition
- 10:19Speaker 1: of That Kevin Show, that Kevinshow dot com. And we
- 10:22Speaker 1: stop every week at this time, every day, at this
- 10:25Speaker 1: time to just ask the big question, how do we live?
- 10:29Speaker 1: How do we live in a culture that despises God?
- 10:33Speaker 1: How do we live in a culture that really has
- 10:35Speaker 1: no use for his word because it's full of rules?
- 10:38Speaker 1: And how do we live in a culture that looks
- 10:40Speaker 1: at us as though we are in some way deficient
- 10:43Speaker 1: because we follow that word and we love that God.
- 10:47Speaker 1: I'm so glad to have Bishop Hugh Nelson back with us,
- 10:49Speaker 1: and he is the pastor of the Evening Ebenezer Urban
- 10:53Speaker 1: Ministry Center in Brooklyn. Wonderful congregation, doing great work. And Bishop,
- 10:59Speaker 1: always appreciate the time that you and I have to
- 11:02Speaker 1: be together. We've been looking at the prodigal Son this
- 11:06Speaker 1: week from Luke chapter fifteen, and yesterday we talked a
- 11:11Speaker 1: lot about the kind of arrogance and the stubbornness that
- 11:16Speaker 1: the son begins this story with, but then we moved
- 11:19Speaker 1: to the father and the father is seen in a
- 11:21Speaker 1: couple of different places in this story. He's seen at
- 11:24Speaker 1: first being petitioned by the son, and he kind of
- 11:28Speaker 1: responds in a way that, really, if you understand the
- 11:31Speaker 1: cultural significance of it, it really defies human reaction, because
- 11:37Speaker 1: in essence, the son was telling the father, I wish
- 11:40Speaker 1: you were dead, I want my stuff, and I wish
- 11:43Speaker 1: that you weren't here anymore. And yet the father doesn't
- 11:46Speaker 1: respond with anything other than gentleness, and later we see
- 11:51Speaker 1: that gentleness enacted on behalf of the Father in a
- 11:54Speaker 1: couple of different places as he relates to both sons.
- 11:57Speaker 1: But take us inside the character of who this father
- 12:00Speaker 1: is in this story and why his reactions matter so much.
- 12:04Speaker 8: Thank you, Kevin, and I'm surely always a pleasure now
- 12:08Speaker 8: as we're looky. Of course, in the past couple of
- 12:10Speaker 8: days we looked at the horror of a renegade son
- 12:13Speaker 8: who was so entitled. Today we want to focus on
- 12:16Speaker 8: the heart of the loving Father. I think somehow it
- 12:21Speaker 8: is difficult, and at least in my journey to really
- 12:24Speaker 8: capture the essence of the compassionate heart that God has
- 12:29Speaker 8: towards us. I like what one person said, to some degree,
- 12:33Speaker 8: the first picture of God one sees is the Father,
- 12:38Speaker 8: their biological father. To some level, when we think when
- 12:42Speaker 8: we pray our Father, who are in heaven, our minds
- 12:46Speaker 8: immediately reflect on our relationship with our earthly father, and
- 12:51Speaker 8: so in many ways we oftentimes think of the word love,
- 12:57Speaker 8: but love in terms of conditions. You know, even as children,
- 13:01Speaker 8: when you're doing right, you feel the sense of men
- 13:04Speaker 8: being special. But when you mess up, all of a
- 13:07Speaker 8: suddenly you feel the punitive side. And many times we
- 13:12Speaker 8: confuse the love of God with the love we were
- 13:16Speaker 8: exposed to the appearance, and so I found it quite
- 13:20Speaker 8: ironic that Christ painted a picture because he wanted us
- 13:25Speaker 8: to understand the love of God so far exceeds the
- 13:30Speaker 8: kind of love you and I have been exposed to.
- 13:33Speaker 1: And so here we find.
- 13:35Speaker 8: A son, a rebellious son, of course, as you said,
- 13:38Speaker 8: wasted his father's inheritance, and the fact that he even
- 13:43Speaker 8: demanded his inheritance meant I really don't care if you're alive.
- 13:48Speaker 8: And so here we find the father responding in compassion.
- 13:53Speaker 8: The Bible said, when the son was yet a far
- 13:56Speaker 8: way off, the father saw him. Now you can imagine
- 14:01Speaker 8: this young man left in his up uppul and said,
- 14:05Speaker 8: dom it's royal attire. But on his return he looked
- 14:11Speaker 8: everything different from what he left. The love of God
- 14:17Speaker 8: is unconditional, and it's nothing we can do to earn it.
- 14:21Speaker 8: But when we look at how we live, many times
- 14:25Speaker 8: the unspoken theology is that we still try to earn
- 14:31Speaker 8: what God.
- 14:31Speaker 1: Has so freely given.
- 14:33Speaker 8: And so we find this father embracing his son just
- 14:38Speaker 8: where he was, and when he brought him into his home,
- 14:42Speaker 8: he immediately instructed his servants get him cleaned up, play
- 14:48Speaker 8: he plays the robe on his shoulders, a ring on
- 14:52Speaker 8: his finger, and shoes on his feet, And I mean,
- 14:55Speaker 8: as a pastor, you and I know you begin to
- 14:58Speaker 8: go and you imagination begin to go even further, and
- 15:02Speaker 8: you think, wait a minute. This broken man return so defeated,
- 15:08Speaker 8: he had come to the end of his rope. But
- 15:11Speaker 8: when his father received him, he placed on his shoulders
- 15:17Speaker 8: is royal rope, reminding him your condition, your shame is
- 15:25Speaker 8: now covered. And that's the kind of love God has
- 15:28Speaker 8: towards us, that it doesn't matter how we mess up,
- 15:31Speaker 8: it doesn't matter how we fail. When we come to
- 15:34Speaker 8: a place of repentance and we return to our father,
- 15:38Speaker 8: he covers our shame. He plays a ring on his finger,
- 15:43Speaker 8: and in my mind it was a sense of reminding
- 15:47Speaker 8: him your authority as a son is now restored. And
- 15:52Speaker 8: he plays shoes on his feet. My gosh, And I mean,
- 15:56Speaker 8: I'm thinking, comes on, I'm placing this. I'm giving you
- 16:00Speaker 8: now shoes a fresh direction for your life. Some of
- 16:07Speaker 8: the greatest people I have known, some of the greatest
- 16:10Speaker 8: Christians I've ever met, were people who had been broken greatly,
- 16:15Speaker 8: and so when they are restored, there's a sense of hue,
- 16:20Speaker 8: a sense of humility that literally baffles those around them.
- 16:27Speaker 8: And so many times I think, even in the church,
- 16:31Speaker 8: and I find as a pastor, we're still we're still
- 16:36Speaker 8: uncomfortable in how we restore or broken. Sometimes even after
- 16:41Speaker 8: they have repented and returned, we still have conditions. We
- 16:45Speaker 8: still as ourselves. Are they truly repentant? Should they be
- 16:50Speaker 8: restored the Father? When the sun sets, Father, forgive me.
- 16:56Speaker 8: I've seen against Heaven, I've seed against you. It goes son,
- 17:01Speaker 8: and that sense of identity covers everything.
- 17:06Speaker 1: You're still my son.
- 17:08Speaker 8: You've messed up, you've wasted all that I've given on
- 17:12Speaker 8: to you, but you're back the sun I thought was dead,
- 17:17Speaker 8: it's now alive. Son, And just that designation. You may
- 17:24Speaker 8: have messed up, but you're still son. And I thought, man,
- 17:29Speaker 8: all that we could get in a deep sense that
- 17:34Speaker 8: even in our darkest moments and in our greatest failure,
- 17:39Speaker 8: it still sees us as son, as daughter. We may
- 17:42Speaker 8: beyond sure as to how we handle backsliders, but as
- 17:47Speaker 8: far as God is concerned, You're still son.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Bishop. I uh, I'm sitting here listening and on some
- 17:59Speaker 1: level weeping because I know that to be true. In
- 18:03Speaker 1: my own life. But beyond that, I'm thinking of people
- 18:09Speaker 1: that are hearing us today and they're talking about fathers
- 18:13Speaker 1: that have abandoned them. And in my own life, I've
- 18:16Speaker 1: had three fathers that have walked out on myself, and
- 18:23Speaker 1: over the course of time, as my children have come
- 18:26Speaker 1: and been blessings in my life, I see myself both
- 18:30Speaker 1: as the son and the story, but also as the father.
- 18:34Speaker 1: And I just want to encourage folks today to open
- 18:40Speaker 1: your heart and to try to love the way God
- 18:44Speaker 1: has loved you, and to try to love the way
- 18:47Speaker 1: this father loved the prodigal because we in this life
- 18:55Speaker 1: are unfinished, even as followers of Jesus. We won't be
- 19:01Speaker 1: perfectly perfected until heaven, and we have a chance to
- 19:05Speaker 1: impact people that are equally imperfect. And as we have
- 19:12Speaker 1: peered into the heart of this Father in this story,
- 19:16Speaker 1: I just pray that it convicts and helps and moves
- 19:20Speaker 1: people today. And Bishop, I want to say thank you
- 19:23Speaker 1: for bringing our attention to it, because it's one of
- 19:25Speaker 1: the most hopeful messages that we can offer.
- 19:29Speaker 8: You know, some years ago God began to convict me.
- 19:32Speaker 8: He says, it doesn't matter which minister falls in reproach.
- 19:38Speaker 8: It doesn't matter which believer may fall into a place
- 19:44Speaker 8: of shame. Never forget you can never fall so deep
- 19:50Speaker 8: that you can recover, and you can never go so
- 19:53Speaker 8: far that you cannot come to yourself. And so we
- 19:57Speaker 8: are always reminded.
- 19:59Speaker 9: You know.
- 20:00Speaker 8: I think it was said that after a prominent minister
- 20:04Speaker 8: had fallen and one of the press journalists was speaking,
- 20:09Speaker 8: was Billy Gryam, and he says, well, what do you
- 20:12Speaker 8: think about that person? Expecting that he would walk through
- 20:17Speaker 8: you know, in his righteous indignation. He says no, He says,
- 20:21Speaker 8: it's just a simple reminder that if it could have
- 20:24Speaker 8: happened to him, it could also happen to me, for
- 20:27Speaker 8: all of us are broken people in need of God's
- 20:32Speaker 8: Chrisce say.
- 20:32Speaker 1: Man, all right, wow, what a great discussion, Bishop Nelson.
- 20:38Speaker 1: We will talk to you again tomorrow. Thank you for
- 20:40Speaker 1: being here. Got to take a break. Kevin mccalloch coming
- 20:42Speaker 1: right back.
- 20:47Speaker 10: Stick around for more that Kevin next here he is
- 21:08Speaker 10: from New York. That Kevin McCullough. Welcome. It's Kevin mccallough.
- 21:16Speaker 10: Glad you're with us from Times Square.
- 21:17Speaker 1: It is that time of year where I get really
- 21:21Speaker 1: excited about what is just in front of us. I
- 21:25Speaker 1: don't even know the number of years ago. I think
- 21:27Speaker 1: it was eleven, maybe twelve, maybe more than that, that
- 21:30Speaker 1: my next guest came into my life and we started
- 21:33Speaker 1: working on a project that I don't even think we
- 21:36Speaker 1: knew at the time really what it was going to become,
- 21:39Speaker 1: but it ended up becoming something that I have had
- 21:41Speaker 1: an immense emotional and spiritual connection to every year, not
- 21:46Speaker 1: just because of the way it turned out, but the
- 21:48Speaker 1: way it impacts people consistently time after time. We're talking
- 21:52Speaker 1: about the biblical ubiquitous story of the Thief on the Cross,
- 21:56Speaker 1: and John i Elo is the president of Open the Bible,
- 22:00Speaker 1: who is the organization that has produced this story in
- 22:04Speaker 1: a couple of really significant ways that has impacted people. John,
- 22:07Speaker 1: it's good to see you again. Thank you for being here.
- 22:10Speaker 1: To go back to that first year that we started
- 22:14Speaker 1: talking about this story, and there's a little pre story
- 22:18Speaker 1: before the story itself, and that involved you and your
- 22:20Speaker 1: dad and a message by a pastor in the Chicago area.
- 22:25Speaker 1: Take us back there and kind of show us the
- 22:27Speaker 1: introduction to where all this began.
- 22:29Speaker 11: Yeah, well, thank you, Kevin. It's great to be with
- 22:31Speaker 11: you as well, and this topic always is near and
- 22:34Speaker 11: dear to my heart as well. So I guess the
- 22:36Speaker 11: story really begins in late twenty eleven, of all things,
- 22:39Speaker 11: so fourteen plus years ago, and it began with a
- 22:42Speaker 11: sermon preached by Pastor Colin Smith, who I work with
- 22:46Speaker 11: very closely to open the Bible. In fact, he's the president.
- 22:48Speaker 11: I'm the executive director. I don't want to take anare okay,
- 22:50Speaker 11: my bad?
- 22:53Speaker 10: No?
- 22:53Speaker 11: But Pastor Colin preached a sermon called Breakfast with the
- 22:56Speaker 11: Devil Supper with the Savior, Pator collinssh and boy they
- 23:00Speaker 11: come up with great titles. What a great title to
- 23:03Speaker 11: tell the story. The thief on the cross, in and
- 23:05Speaker 11: of itself, woke up on his way to hell quite candidly,
- 23:08Speaker 11: going to be crucified and hung next to Jesus Christ.
- 23:11Speaker 11: And yet at the end of the day was ushered
- 23:13Speaker 11: into Heaven by our Lord and Savior himself.
- 23:15Speaker 1: And so at people to understand. Not only was he
- 23:17Speaker 1: ushered in, he was the first absolutely believer of post
- 23:21Speaker 1: Jesus death. He was the first one to experience the
- 23:24Speaker 1: promise of heaven, and that in and of itself is
- 23:27Speaker 1: kind of important. We'll come back to that in a second,
- 23:29Speaker 1: but finish out the I mean.
- 23:31Speaker 11: What does it say about about our savior right that
- 23:33Speaker 11: the first human ushered into heaven by his side was
- 23:37Speaker 11: a violent criminal who came through repentance to great faith.
- 23:41Speaker 12: So Patrick Collin Preachts' sermon.
- 23:43Speaker 11: My father, John Senior, happened to be battling renal cancer
- 23:47Speaker 11: at the time and had been coming to church with
- 23:50Speaker 11: us off and on.
- 23:51Speaker 12: I had a faith, but kind of a nominal faith.
- 23:53Speaker 11: Kevin and I paraphrased that sermon to my dad on
- 23:56Speaker 11: the phone that afternoon Sunday afternoon. We spent about ninety
- 23:59Speaker 11: minutes talking about this thief guy and from the Book
- 24:02Speaker 11: of Luke, chapter twenty three, if people aren't familiar with
- 24:04Speaker 11: the story, and it was absolutely transformational in terms of
- 24:08Speaker 11: the nature of our conversation. My dad was confronting his
- 24:11Speaker 11: own mortality as people we all will ultimately someday, and
- 24:15Speaker 11: something just clicked and it was a different kind of conversation.
- 24:18Speaker 11: I told Pastor Colin about it. Colin was a friend,
- 24:21Speaker 11: and I said, and Colin said, John, I'd love to
- 24:22Speaker 11: meet with your dad and just talk to him a
- 24:24Speaker 11: little bit. And sure enough we got together with my dad.
- 24:26Speaker 11: I wasn't there, and apparently my dad started telling Colin
- 24:30Speaker 11: the story of the thief on the crosses. I didn't
- 24:33Speaker 11: know it, which was great, and Colin asked my dad,
- 24:36Speaker 11: John Senior, you know, have you ever put your faith
- 24:39Speaker 11: in Jesus like this thief did? And my dad said, well, yeah,
- 24:42Speaker 11: I have, And Colin asked him when, and my dad said,
- 24:45Speaker 11: love last Sunday when I was talking to my son.
- 24:47Speaker 12: So I'll be the first to get emotional today, keV.
- 24:50Speaker 11: But pretty pretty extraordinary to step out and share the
- 24:54Speaker 11: Gospel with your dad and have a story from the
- 24:57Speaker 11: Bible so simple, so clean, so clear of what grace
- 25:00Speaker 11: is ultimately be what the Lord used to bring my
- 25:03Speaker 11: dad to him. And so my dad's in heaven today
- 25:05Speaker 11: for sure. And this project kind of was born out
- 25:08Speaker 11: of that whole story. There's a lot of people like
- 25:12Speaker 11: my father, maybe people watching listening today maybe have a
- 25:17Speaker 11: belief of who Jesus is and knowledge of who Jesus,
- 25:19Speaker 11: but who don't understand grace, who don't understand the completed
- 25:22Speaker 11: work of the Cross, and so heaven.
- 25:25Speaker 12: How I got here was.
- 25:26Speaker 11: An idea that started with reaching people like that with
- 25:29Speaker 11: this story, and so we built a little bit of
- 25:32Speaker 11: a fictional narrative around the story of the thief. Anything
- 25:34Speaker 11: that's in the Bible is always exactly as it is
- 25:36Speaker 11: in the Bible, but we wanted to build a story
- 25:39Speaker 11: about maybe what was this guy's background, Why might he
- 25:41Speaker 11: have been on that cross. Had to have been a
- 25:43Speaker 11: violent criminal to be crucified, so probably an angry guy, right,
- 25:47Speaker 11: you know, maybe angry at rome. And so we tell
- 25:49Speaker 11: the story and it became a book told in the
- 25:52Speaker 11: first person, So Heaven, How I got here? Literally from heaven,
- 25:55Speaker 11: the thief telling his own story. And this project has
- 25:59Speaker 11: just taken on so many different exciting forms over the years,
- 26:02Speaker 11: but it all started with a legit conversation one one
- 26:06Speaker 11: person to another, which is well.
- 26:08Speaker 1: And the power of this story is in what we
- 26:11Speaker 1: teased just a second ago, and that is that here
- 26:14Speaker 1: was a guy who was the worst of the worst.
- 26:17Speaker 1: He was in modern era, a terrorist, a rapist, a murderer.
- 26:21Speaker 1: He was somebody who was scorned by society, looked down upon,
- 26:28Speaker 1: just seen as a real threat. And that's why he
- 26:31Speaker 1: would have been receiving capital punishment for whatever crimes he
- 26:35Speaker 1: had committed, and thievery was probably among them, but probably
- 26:41Speaker 1: wasn't foremost, let's just leave it at that, but here's
- 26:45Speaker 1: the power. He didn't have a chance to join a
- 26:49Speaker 1: Bible study or a men's group or a small group
- 26:52Speaker 1: or a Sunday school class, or serve on a ministry team,
- 26:56Speaker 1: or share his faith with anyone else. This was literally
- 27:00Speaker 1: a guy who, after an end of life that had
- 27:04Speaker 1: been totally and completely self obsessed with his anger and
- 27:08Speaker 1: self pursuit, says to Jesus, I believe in you. Okay again.
- 27:13Speaker 1: If you want to have these watch kits for your use,
- 27:18Speaker 1: go to that kevinshow dot com and click the promotions tab.
- 27:22Speaker 1: There's going to be an line item there that's about Heaven,
- 27:25Speaker 1: How I Got Here? Just put your email in and
- 27:28Speaker 1: we will get back to you via email. The watch
- 27:32Speaker 1: kit form for the how Heaven How I Got Here
- 27:37Speaker 1: film and package that you can use this Holy season
- 27:41Speaker 1: to help bring someone to Jesus. John I ELO's with me.
- 27:44Speaker 1: He's coming right back. Don't go anywhere here.
- 28:07Speaker 7: He is from New York.
- 28:12Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough, all right, very glad to have you with us.
- 28:16Speaker 1: We are talking about Holy Week and the importance of
- 28:20Speaker 1: using capitalizing this time of season for the gospel for
- 28:25Speaker 1: the purpose of the gospel, and John i Ello is
- 28:28Speaker 1: back with me here at that Kevin show. It doesn't
- 28:31Speaker 1: get much deeper and much more non negotiable than this guy.
- 28:36Speaker 1: And yet Jesus said, it's not too late for you.
- 28:38Speaker 1: And over the years you've explained it nicely. But we've
- 28:43Speaker 1: turned it into an audiobook that became a radio drama,
- 28:48Speaker 1: it's been filmed as a live presentation, and there's even
- 28:53Speaker 1: hopes to maybe go further with the visual presentation of
- 28:56Speaker 1: it in the future. But this is a story that
- 28:58Speaker 1: every year that it gets played on the radio or
- 29:00Speaker 1: touches people in that way that you hear from more
- 29:03Speaker 1: and more people. How many languages is it now in?
- 29:07Speaker 11: Well, so, the book itself translated into fifteen languages.
- 29:10Speaker 12: And then you alluded to both the radio.
- 29:13Speaker 11: Drama which has translated into several languages and has aired
- 29:16Speaker 11: around the world, but importantly a one man play that
- 29:20Speaker 11: Stephen Baldwin performed the earle of the Thief on the Cross,
- 29:24Speaker 11: and that one man play was filmed, and that film
- 29:27Speaker 11: performance has been translated into thirty languages at this point.
- 29:32Speaker 11: Last year we aired around the same time, Kevin. We
- 29:34Speaker 11: believe more than five million people saw it, and the
- 29:37Speaker 11: types of notes we got to your point of I
- 29:40Speaker 11: shared this with somebody in my life who doesn't net
- 29:42Speaker 11: no Christ, and it opened up conversations like we've never
- 29:45Speaker 11: had before, people saying I was living a.
- 29:48Speaker 12: Life that I was not proud of.
- 29:49Speaker 11: I thought God wanted nothing to do with me, and
- 29:52Speaker 11: yet I'm like that thief.
- 29:53Speaker 12: I want what he got. You know, the beauty of.
- 29:56Speaker 11: The clarity of Jesus Christ. He doesn't say to the thief, Hey,
- 30:00Speaker 11: you know, let's let's think this over for a while,
- 30:03Speaker 11: you know, I mean, let's take our time. Maybe we'll
- 30:04Speaker 11: sit it out for a month. He says, today you'll
- 30:07Speaker 11: be with me in Paradise. Today, you'll be with me
- 30:09Speaker 11: in Paris. It just so powerful to know what the
- 30:13Speaker 11: ultimate power of what Jesus Christ did at that cross.
- 30:16Speaker 1: Well, five million just last year. How many do we
- 30:19Speaker 1: have any estimations of how many people have heard it
- 30:21Speaker 1: or seen it over the course of the fourteen years.
- 30:24Speaker 12: No question.
- 30:24Speaker 11: The radio drama, which you actually worked on and produced
- 30:27Speaker 11: so wonderfully, Kevin, has been probably heard by more than
- 30:31Speaker 11: twenty million people over the years, and several different languages.
- 30:34Speaker 11: We've veried across the Salem Network, other radio channels globally, and.
- 30:38Speaker 12: It just keeps.
- 30:39Speaker 11: You know, it's a project that we renew every year
- 30:42Speaker 11: because it keeps doing new things every year. It's kind
- 30:44Speaker 11: of God's word. It doesn't get old, it doesn't get stale.
- 30:47Speaker 1: And so well, we're excited, friends, because the reason that
- 30:51Speaker 1: John and I are telling you about this is that
- 30:54Speaker 1: we want to be even more proactive. We have not
- 30:56Speaker 1: we're not resting on laurels. We are in fact hungry
- 30:59Speaker 1: like hungry can be, and we have put together what
- 31:04Speaker 1: in essence is kind of a little WatchKit. It has
- 31:08Speaker 1: the trailer that you could show your small group or
- 31:11Speaker 1: people that you're talking to. You could share it with
- 31:13Speaker 1: a neighbor or a relative, or someone that you have
- 31:16Speaker 1: even a more intimate relationship with. There will be I believe,
- 31:20Speaker 1: a link to the full length film in English. If
- 31:24Speaker 1: you need it in other languages, you could send us
- 31:26Speaker 1: an email. We can probably get you hooked up with
- 31:28Speaker 1: some of the other languages that are going out there as.
- 31:31Speaker 12: All available for free.
- 31:32Speaker 1: That'll be yeah, it's all available for free, but it
- 31:35Speaker 1: would just be a matter of making sure you had
- 31:37Speaker 1: the right one and then maybe some study questions that
- 31:40Speaker 1: if you watch it and maybe your move to ask
- 31:43Speaker 1: some questions yourself. There's some study helps, or maybe there's
- 31:47Speaker 1: some people that you would watch it with that would
- 31:49Speaker 1: have questions you could pose to them and deepen the conversation.
- 31:54Speaker 1: But what we really want to do is spread the
- 31:57Speaker 1: hope that this story tells in a way that we've
- 31:59Speaker 1: never before. And so I'm going to ask you to
- 32:02Speaker 1: go to that kevinshow dot com and click the promotions
- 32:04Speaker 1: tab and where you see Heaven How I Got here?
- 32:07Speaker 1: Click on that, Just give us your email address and
- 32:11Speaker 1: we'll shoot you back the little watch kit. It's in
- 32:13Speaker 1: the form of an email. There's no cost to it
- 32:15Speaker 1: at all, but we'll get it to you. Get it
- 32:17Speaker 1: in your hands, and then between now and Holy Week,
- 32:20Speaker 1: be thinking and praying and asking God, who do you
- 32:23Speaker 1: want me to show this to? How can I use
- 32:25Speaker 1: it in my own life? How many people may Maybe
- 32:28Speaker 1: you have several gatherings in your home where you have
- 32:31Speaker 1: different groups of friends that want to see it. Maybe
- 32:33Speaker 1: you've got work friends and school friends and other people.
- 32:36Speaker 1: Just use it to use it until it can't be
- 32:39Speaker 1: used anymore. Ring it out with youse. Between now and
- 32:42Speaker 1: Resurrection Sunday because John, the hope is that the message
- 32:47Speaker 1: of Jesus, the joy of his redemption and salvation, take
- 32:50Speaker 1: holds it takes hold of everybody's heart that we can
- 32:54Speaker 1: reach with this story. And thank you to open the
- 32:56Speaker 1: Bible for providing all of those materials for free. Want
- 33:00Speaker 1: to deepen that experience, and we just want to hope
- 33:03Speaker 1: and pray that a lot of people will be touched
- 33:05Speaker 1: and blessed between now and Eastern Yeah.
- 33:08Speaker 11: You know, you think back to the origins of this project, Kevin,
- 33:11Speaker 11: and hopefully everybody watching and listening can appreciate conversations with
- 33:15Speaker 11: people in their life. It doesn't need to be more
- 33:17Speaker 11: formal than just opening up a conversation and the story
- 33:20Speaker 11: just invites you into and I promise you if you
- 33:24Speaker 11: start the conversation, the Holy Spirit will give you the
- 33:26Speaker 11: right words.
- 33:27Speaker 1: I can't tell you intimidating, it'll it'll go pretty well
- 33:30Speaker 1: from there if you will.
- 33:31Speaker 11: And what we've tried to do, you know, study questions
- 33:34Speaker 11: probably makes it sound even too formal or official.
- 33:36Speaker 12: They are that, but they're just conversation start. Yeah, yeah,
- 33:40Speaker 12: and you just watch a sixty.
- 33:41Speaker 11: Minute powerful performance from Steven you know, or even if
- 33:45Speaker 11: you're listening to the radio drama the different things that
- 33:47Speaker 11: we have, how do you start that conversation when that's over?
- 33:50Speaker 12: How do you begin to say, hey, you know, how
- 33:52Speaker 12: did that hit you?
- 33:53Speaker 7: You know?
- 33:53Speaker 12: And and what does that mean to you?
- 33:54Speaker 11: And we like the Thief, right, it gives you a
- 33:57Speaker 11: great opportunity to even confess yourself a bit like the
- 34:00Speaker 11: thief to someone who doesn't yet know Christ.
- 34:02Speaker 12: So I hope that and we'll pray.
- 34:04Speaker 11: We have a team that opened the Bible, that prays
- 34:07Speaker 11: mightily over these things, and so we'll be praying that
- 34:09Speaker 11: somebody Kevin in your audience listens, hears, watches, and then
- 34:14Speaker 11: opens that conversation. And we probably won't know any of
- 34:17Speaker 11: the fruits of that work until we are in heaven ourselves.
- 34:21Speaker 11: But what a great way to celebrate somewhere up there together,
- 34:24Speaker 11: even with the Thief.
- 34:25Speaker 12: If people brought to.
- 34:26Speaker 1: All as the culture and the society are starting to
- 34:29Speaker 1: focus in on Lent and Holy Week, and there's a
- 34:32Speaker 1: kind of a natural turning of the culture to that
- 34:35Speaker 1: story and that time, and even people that aren't necessarily
- 34:38Speaker 1: religious become more reflective and you know, sometimes do open
- 34:42Speaker 1: up just friends as you're listening, just pray, Lord send
- 34:46Speaker 1: somebody across my path. I guarantee you he will answer
- 34:50Speaker 1: that prayer. If you spend twenty five seconds thinking about
- 34:54Speaker 1: it in your heart, you can probably think of someone
- 34:56Speaker 1: that you already know that you want to share this with.
- 35:00Speaker 1: On that. Don't let that impulse that the Holy Spirit
- 35:03Speaker 1: puts in you, don't let that die out. Act on it,
- 35:06Speaker 1: take action, and we've got everything you need for that
- 35:09Speaker 1: in this one little watch kit. And again, go to
- 35:11Speaker 1: that Kevinshow dot com, click on the promotions tab and
- 35:14Speaker 1: just put in your email. We'll get it to you
- 35:16Speaker 1: free of charge. You can also if you want to
- 35:19Speaker 1: email me for more info. There's other things that open
- 35:21Speaker 1: the Bible has to offer, and we don't have everything
- 35:25Speaker 1: online exactly yet the way we want it to. Over
- 35:28Speaker 1: the next couple of days, that'll all be falling in place.
- 35:30Speaker 1: But if you have any other questions about the translations
- 35:32Speaker 1: or the things, send those to that Kevinshow gmail dot com.
- 35:34Speaker 1: More than happy to help you with that as well.
- 35:36Speaker 1: John Ilo, you're going to talk to us a couple
- 35:38Speaker 1: of times between now and Easter. Thank you for being here.
- 35:40Speaker 12: And my pleasure, Kevin.
- 35:41Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Kevin mccallough, coming right back from
- 35:44Speaker 1: Times Square, Go away, stick around.
- 35:48Speaker 9: For more of that, Kevin next, serving it up with
- 36:02Speaker 9: a no drink mintial.
- 36:04Speaker 1: It's that cabin show, all right, friends, Kelvin mccaullaugh. Glad
- 36:10Speaker 1: to be with you. And as we wrap up our
- 36:12Speaker 1: number one, just a couple of thoughts on some of
- 36:15Speaker 1: the stuff that is happening in the news. You know,
- 36:19Speaker 1: it's been interesting to watch the coverage of the war
- 36:22Speaker 1: because there have been a few voices that I wasn't
- 36:25Speaker 1: as aware of, but am becoming much more aware of
- 36:27Speaker 1: based on the coverage. A couple of voices. One has
- 36:31Speaker 1: been Mashi Alinashad And if you don't recognize the name,
- 36:37Speaker 1: you'd probably recognize her look. She's got that really super
- 36:40Speaker 1: curly hair that she wears proudly without a head covering.
- 36:45Speaker 1: She called out Kamala Harris, She said, who are you? No, honestly,
- 36:49Speaker 1: who are you? A democrat who built your career talking
- 36:51Speaker 1: about women's rights, Yet you've stayed silent when more than
- 36:54Speaker 1: thirty thousand people, many of them women, were massacred, and
- 36:58Speaker 1: now suddenly you found your voice. Meaning she's spoken against
- 37:03Speaker 1: the liberation of Iran. Another one, doctor Shila Nazarian, a
- 37:08Speaker 1: Jewish Iranian who made a harrowing escape from Iran as
- 37:11Speaker 1: a child, said women have almost no rights in the
- 37:14Speaker 1: theocratic regime that has ruled in Iran for the last
- 37:17Speaker 1: forty seven years. Even leaving home requires quote permission from
- 37:21Speaker 1: a woman's husband, father, or closest male relative. All women
- 37:25Speaker 1: are subject to a very strict dress code. Disregarding these
- 37:27Speaker 1: or other requirements can lead to a woman being violated
- 37:30Speaker 1: by regime en forcers. It's no coincidence that Margaret Atwood
- 37:35Speaker 1: drew inspiration from the Islamic Republic when writing her dystopian
- 37:38Speaker 1: novel The Handmaid's Tale. This is why I'm flabbergasted by
- 37:42Speaker 1: purported feminist siding with the radical regime in Tehran. Friends,
- 37:46Speaker 1: I told you, I told you last week, and are
- 37:50Speaker 1: on Monday, and I'm telling you every day since the
- 37:55Speaker 1: Democrats chose poorly. You want to say, you're four women
- 38:00Speaker 1: and you're siding with dead Hitler, Dead Islamic Hitler and
- 38:04Speaker 1: all of the brutish animals that sought to confine, kidnap, disrespect,
- 38:13Speaker 1: and sometimes murder innocent women in a country for years
- 38:18Speaker 1: just because they could just because they had the votes
- 38:24Speaker 1: that would protect them. They didn't. There was no idea
- 38:28Speaker 1: like civil rights that a person. And the problem is,
- 38:34Speaker 1: and this is a big problem for the faith of Islam.
- 38:38Speaker 1: I have Muslim friends. We don't talk about this much,
- 38:41Speaker 1: but this is the problem with your faith. You do
- 38:44Speaker 1: not recognize the Imago day. You don't recognize the mark
- 38:50Speaker 1: that God puts on the soul of every human being.
- 38:53Speaker 1: If you did, you couldn't throw gay people off of buildings.
- 38:57Speaker 1: If you saw the Imago day and someone. You could
- 39:00Speaker 1: not be okay with a boarding unborn children, if you
- 39:03Speaker 1: saw the Amago day and someone, you can't be okay
- 39:06Speaker 1: with hideously violating and abusing women the way strict Islamak
- 39:14Speaker 1: regimes do. And I don't care how many times you
- 39:18Speaker 1: beat a woman or cajole her into saying what you
- 39:22Speaker 1: want her to say. There is something that she inherently
- 39:25Speaker 1: knows that is so wrong about not having her own agency.
- 39:30Speaker 1: And the reason that it all came about was because
- 39:33Speaker 1: Mohammed couldn't stand a woman that was smarter than him,
- 39:37Speaker 1: and so he saw to it that none of them
- 39:38Speaker 1: ever would be That's why education for women is banned
- 39:42Speaker 1: in Islam. You can't have women, smart women figuring things out,
- 39:47Speaker 1: especially for themselves. That threatens to put the whole ecosystem
- 39:53Speaker 1: in the upside down, which it should be. The moderate
- 40:01Speaker 1: practicers of Islam, you know, we can have a we
- 40:05Speaker 1: can have a debate about whether or not your moderations
- 40:08Speaker 1: are enough to coexist in a you know, free society.
- 40:18Speaker 1: But for the for the extremists, for the ones that
- 40:20Speaker 1: hold to the purest form, you don't you. You cannot
- 40:26Speaker 1: be part of American society because you're You're the rules
- 40:31Speaker 1: by which you live do not coexist with the American
- 40:34Speaker 1: constitution in the American way of life. Doesn't work that way.
- 40:40Speaker 13: Kevin McCullough Hour two straight ahead, somewhere in the bowels
- 40:49Speaker 13: of the City that Never sleeps.
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- 40:54Speaker 2: Media, because a man also not sleeping. That's Kevin mcalla
- 40:59Speaker 2: and that would like a word review.
- 41:02Speaker 1: Many of you know him when I spooks for Damas.
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- 41:06Speaker 1: The only thing that could.
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- 41:27Speaker 5: Ahead, everything you need to know about the top headlines
- 41:30Speaker 5: of the day and a perspective that will.
- 41:32Speaker 1: Give you some externity to it.
- 41:35Speaker 5: Plus practical tips for family life, spiritual life, and good
- 41:40Speaker 5: old regular life. It's Kevin McCullough Monday through Friday on
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- 42:04Speaker 13: Here all right, welcome in Kevin McCullough, That Kevin Show.
- 42:14Speaker 1: Thrilled to have you with us. That Kevinshow dot com
- 42:17Speaker 1: for everything related to the show. That Kevin Show at
- 42:20Speaker 1: gmail dot com. If you want to email me, always
- 42:23Speaker 1: glad to read your emails. I don't pawn that off
- 42:26Speaker 1: on staff or anybody else. I always take care of
- 42:28Speaker 1: that on my own. We are still covering the events
- 42:31Speaker 1: of what's going on in the war, and I want
- 42:33Speaker 1: you to be informed and up to date on all
- 42:35Speaker 1: of that. Some big good things happening today the Israelis
- 42:40Speaker 1: and the Americans, not gloating, but very very confident in
- 42:45Speaker 1: the ability that they've had to take over the skies
- 42:47Speaker 1: of Iran, and there's basically no air force defense systems
- 42:53Speaker 1: that the regime can power up. They killed another layer
- 42:58Speaker 1: of top leadership yesterday when eighty eight of them decided
- 43:01Speaker 1: to go get into a building together, took them out.
- 43:05Speaker 1: What's left of the leadership. It's getting lower and lower
- 43:08Speaker 1: on the totem pole, and there's a lot of confusion,
- 43:11Speaker 1: a lot of really kind of bis management of things
- 43:14Speaker 1: that seem to be happening there. So good stuff. They
- 43:17Speaker 1: also got the guy that had been behind the assassination
- 43:22Speaker 1: attempts on President Trump, the Iranian that had planned those
- 43:26Speaker 1: and talked about those and kind of threatened those. He's
- 43:29Speaker 1: been killed. So again, a lot of winning and hopefully
- 43:34Speaker 1: the Iranian people are going to have a new government
- 43:36Speaker 1: and their land their home back, very very soon. That's
- 43:41Speaker 1: our prayer anyway, at least. But I want to get
- 43:44Speaker 1: over to some other breaking news, because there is news
- 43:46Speaker 1: that is being made and it is worth talking about.
- 43:50Speaker 1: And I feel a little perplexed because it's almost breathtaking
- 43:56Speaker 1: that anything about this needs to be said. Let me
- 44:00Speaker 1: the title of the column that I put up at
- 44:02Speaker 1: town Hall about this is Scotus actually parents do matter,
- 44:08Speaker 1: and again, it's kind of a shame that that has
- 44:11Speaker 1: to be kind of codified by a court ruling. But
- 44:16Speaker 1: parents do matter, not the bureaucrats, not the school boards,
- 44:19Speaker 1: not the activist teachers, not even the state of California.
- 44:22Speaker 1: Parents are the ones that matter. And yet here in
- 44:25Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, the United States Supreme Court had to
- 44:29Speaker 1: step in and remind the one of the largest public
- 44:32Speaker 1: school systems in the country that the people who actually
- 44:35Speaker 1: raise children are still supposed to be involved in their lives.
- 44:40Speaker 1: That is just astounding to me that they have to
- 44:43Speaker 1: make that statement. In a divided ruling yesterday, the Court
- 44:49Speaker 1: cited with a group of parents challenging California policies that
- 44:54Speaker 1: had allowed schools to listen to this conceal a child's
- 44:58Speaker 1: gender identity, and to decide to not tell the parents,
- 45:03Speaker 1: so to hide the decision that the child had come to,
- 45:06Speaker 1: and to basically lie to the parents and have the school,
- 45:11Speaker 1: have the school board or the school district complicit in
- 45:15Speaker 1: that lie. The justices instead reinstated a lower court order
- 45:19Speaker 1: that prevents schools from misleading parents and requires them to
- 45:22Speaker 1: respect parental instructions regarding how their children are addressed at school.
- 45:27Speaker 1: Think about that for a second. The highest court in
- 45:31Speaker 1: the land is what was required to tell a state
- 45:35Speaker 1: government that schools cannot lie to parents about their own children.
- 45:41Speaker 1: Just think about that with me for a second. You
- 45:43Speaker 1: had to have the Supreme Court tell one of the
- 45:48Speaker 1: largest states in the Union that they weren't allowed to
- 45:54Speaker 1: lie to parents about their own children. What has become
- 45:59Speaker 1: of our our country That shouldn't require the Supreme Court
- 46:02Speaker 1: to say anything. Every voter in the state should be
- 46:06Speaker 1: furious it was required to have the justices of the
- 46:10Speaker 1: Supreme Court weigh in on it because you couldn't get
- 46:13Speaker 1: clarity in lower courts. What's wrong with our court systems.
- 46:17Speaker 1: The case arose after California adopted policies encouraging and allowing
- 46:21Speaker 1: educators to hide i elie deceive a student's gender transition
- 46:28Speaker 1: at school from their parents. The twenty twenty four California
- 46:31Speaker 1: Safety Act even barred schools from requiring teachers to inform
- 46:35Speaker 1: parents if their child adopted a different gender identity at school.
- 46:39Speaker 1: In plain English, that means a child could be living
- 46:41Speaker 1: one identity at school and another at home, and the
- 46:44Speaker 1: adults entrusted with their education were expected to help keep
- 46:47Speaker 1: the secret. Friends. That is not education. That is state
- 46:51Speaker 1: sponsored child abuse. When you divide parents from kids, that's
- 46:59Speaker 1: child abuse. Parents across the state challenge the policy, arguing
- 47:04Speaker 1: that the government had no right to insert itself between
- 47:06Speaker 1: families and their kids, particularly in issues of identity, faith,
- 47:11Speaker 1: and moral formation. Come on, now, the Supreme Court agreed,
- 47:16Speaker 1: at least for now. Thank god. The Justice is granted
- 47:20Speaker 1: the parents' request to reinstate a federal district court order
- 47:23Speaker 1: preventing schools from misleading parents and requiring schools to follow
- 47:27Speaker 1: parental guidance regarding names and pronouns used for their kids.
- 47:31Speaker 1: Here's the thing, my little trans educators out there. You
- 47:36Speaker 1: don't get to take my little Johnny and Susie into
- 47:38Speaker 1: your classroom and then just have your jolly well weigh
- 47:41Speaker 1: with them and your imagination and your perverse weird other
- 47:44Speaker 1: than what is reality that you're living in. I don't
- 47:48Speaker 1: really want you teaching in the school systems, period because
- 47:52Speaker 1: I think that if you're if you're of that mindset,
- 47:57Speaker 1: you probably have some unre quieted mental trauma that has
- 48:02Speaker 1: never been addressed. Because what we're finding out about is
- 48:04Speaker 1: all these kids that you're trying to force to transition,
- 48:07Speaker 1: that they all want a de transition because they all
- 48:09Speaker 1: had other things that needed to be addressed, and when
- 48:11Speaker 1: the other things got addressed, then the whole trans thing
- 48:14Speaker 1: just went away. That's happening in dozens upon hundreds of
- 48:18Speaker 1: kids that have gone partially down the path. So, no,
- 48:22Speaker 1: I really don't want you teaching in my kids' school,
- 48:25Speaker 1: But I really will not approve of you having Johnny
- 48:29Speaker 1: and Susie at your little perverse desire, getting them to
- 48:35Speaker 1: come up with their own new identity, and then you
- 48:39Speaker 1: entertain that and you play with that, and you put
- 48:42Speaker 1: that into their imagination and their experience and the power suggestion,
- 48:45Speaker 1: all the rest of that garbage. You don't get to
- 48:47Speaker 1: do that with my Johnny and Susie in your classroom.
- 48:50Speaker 1: They are my children, given to me by God, and
- 48:55Speaker 1: I am responsible for them until they are an adult.
- 48:58Speaker 1: So get your rubby, perverted hands off of their minds
- 49:04Speaker 1: and bodies and identities and names and pronouns and everything else.
- 49:08Speaker 1: And that's what the Supreme Court said. The Supreme Court said,
- 49:10Speaker 1: Kev's not crazy, He's just a good parent. The court
- 49:13Speaker 1: acknowledged something most Americans instinctively already know. Parents are not
- 49:17Speaker 1: optional accessories in their kids' lives. They are the primary authority.
- 49:22Speaker 1: And that truth is older than our Constitution, older than
- 49:26Speaker 1: the Republic. It is rooted in the natural order and
- 49:29Speaker 1: natural law. Long before legislators existed. Mothers and fathers were
- 49:33Speaker 1: responsible for raising and guiding and protecting their kids. Civilizations
- 49:38Speaker 1: function because families function, and families function because parents have
- 49:41Speaker 1: both the authority and the responsibility to shape the lives
- 49:44Speaker 1: of children entrusted to them. Yet in recent years, this
- 49:48Speaker 1: new ideology has tried to flip that order upside down.
- 49:51Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, friends, over my dead body, we're
- 49:56Speaker 1: not going to just sit back and say, oh, okay, sure,
- 50:00Speaker 1: if it's okay with you. And for this brief, meaningful moment,
- 50:07Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, who should have never have had to
- 50:10Speaker 1: decide the issue, the highest court in the land, has
- 50:13Speaker 1: reminded America of something profoundly important. Parents matter, and they
- 50:18Speaker 1: matter more than almost anything else when it comes to
- 50:20Speaker 1: a child. Civilizations rise and fall not primarily on their
- 50:24Speaker 1: laws or their politics, but on the strength of their families.
- 50:27Speaker 1: And when a society forgets that truth, history eventually reminds it,
- 50:31Speaker 1: and it usually comes the hard way. Kevin McCullough coming.
- 50:34Speaker 6: Right back.
- 50:53Speaker 3: Here.
- 50:53Speaker 7: He is from New York, exact.
- 50:58Speaker 13: Kevin McCullough, Welcome back Times Square, Kevin mccallaugh.
- 51:02Speaker 1: Glad to have you with us. That kevinshow dot com
- 51:05Speaker 1: for everything related to the show. We don't ever put
- 51:09Speaker 1: anything behind a paywall because we want you to have
- 51:10Speaker 1: access to all the good stuff on Wednesdays, you know
- 51:14Speaker 1: that we oftentimes we'll tell you about the breaking news
- 51:17Speaker 1: as it's happened, but we also kind of set that
- 51:19Speaker 1: aside and take a look at some of the issues
- 51:22Speaker 1: related to wellness and to healthy living and to extending
- 51:25Speaker 1: life and to being fit into doing all those types
- 51:28Speaker 1: of things. And I'm very, very honored to welcome back
- 51:31Speaker 1: doctor Laura Perdy to the broadcast. She was on the
- 51:35Speaker 1: show regularly for a while and then she got married
- 51:38Speaker 1: and had a baby, and so she's been a little
- 51:40Speaker 1: bit busy, but she is coming back with a force.
- 51:44Speaker 1: And Laura, it's good to see you. Thank you for
- 51:46Speaker 1: being here.
- 51:47Speaker 14: It's so great to be back. Kevin, thank you for
- 51:49Speaker 14: having me.
- 51:49Speaker 1: Absolutely we have talked a lot about and you have
- 51:53Speaker 1: a very broad experience as a medical doctor. You've served
- 51:57Speaker 1: in uniform for our country, and you've seen kind of
- 52:00Speaker 1: what the military medical arena was all like. In fact,
- 52:04Speaker 1: you took some of their early kind of adoption of
- 52:08Speaker 1: technology and trying to use technology to help patients and
- 52:11Speaker 1: kind of really pioneer a lane for yourself that's kind
- 52:14Speaker 1: of unparalleled. And I want people to know that swell
- 52:18Speaker 1: Care dot health is where they can go and access
- 52:21Speaker 1: what you're doing now. Swell Care all when word dot
- 52:24Speaker 1: h a LT. But because you have such a wide
- 52:29Speaker 1: knowledge base of so many different medical things, I want
- 52:31Speaker 1: to hit some of the hot buttons today. And in
- 52:35Speaker 1: recent months, I have heard the term perimenopause, and I've
- 52:41Speaker 1: seen more headlines about menopause and about all kinds of
- 52:45Speaker 1: things related to that stage of life. And I think
- 52:47Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my entire life leading up to that.
- 52:50Speaker 1: So I don't know why that stage of life and
- 52:54Speaker 1: this kind of it seems like perimenopause. And according to
- 52:57Speaker 1: some women that you talk with about it, it's kind
- 52:59Speaker 1: of like a joke and they kind of make fun
- 53:01Speaker 1: of each other with it and that sort of thing.
- 53:03Speaker 1: I don't but walk us through what is happening with
- 53:06Speaker 1: that change of life in our culture, in the medical circles.
- 53:10Speaker 1: What's happening on that topic right now?
- 53:14Speaker 15: Certainly, Kevin, this is an amazing time in the history
- 53:17Speaker 15: of women's healthcare, because for decades, decades, I mean when
- 53:22Speaker 15: I was going through training, and that was fifteen years ago,
- 53:26Speaker 15: we were always taught and told that once a woman
- 53:28Speaker 15: goes into menopause, and to take a step back and
- 53:31Speaker 15: define it. Menopause is the time in a woman's life
- 53:34Speaker 15: when she's no longer able to have children. She can
- 53:36Speaker 15: no longer bear children, and your hormones start to change,
- 53:40Speaker 15: predominantly the estrogen, the progesterone, and the levels that they
- 53:43Speaker 15: are at when you're in your reproductive years. They start
- 53:46Speaker 15: to get a little crazy, the cycles get irregular. There's
- 53:49Speaker 15: lots of mood swings, exhaustion, hair loss, skin change.
- 53:54Speaker 14: Is bone loss.
- 53:55Speaker 15: All that stuff usually starts to happen in the mid
- 53:58Speaker 15: to late forties for most women to fifties, and for
- 54:01Speaker 15: decades we were told you can't do anything, there's nothing
- 54:05Speaker 15: you can do, no treatments, just good luck. Sometimes we
- 54:08Speaker 15: would even prescribe antidepressants, say, oh, here's some antidepressants, tafe
- 54:12Speaker 15: you feel better.
- 54:13Speaker 14: Don't take hormones because.
- 54:15Speaker 15: You'll have a heart attack or you'll have a stroke
- 54:17Speaker 15: and that'll be very, very dangerous for you. Even as
- 54:19Speaker 15: a doctor they would say, don't do that. But now
- 54:23Speaker 15: research has actually shown and they've removed that recommendation and
- 54:27Speaker 15: it's now okay and considered to be healthy and advisable
- 54:31Speaker 15: for women that are going through that change in their
- 54:34Speaker 15: life to receive hormonal support prescribe by their doctor so
- 54:38Speaker 15: that they can feel as good as possible while they're
- 54:42Speaker 15: going through that transition.
- 54:44Speaker 1: Is there an organic or natural component to hormones versus
- 54:49Speaker 1: an artificial or synthetic component that played into that debate
- 54:53Speaker 1: or was it just the use of hormones themselves, You know.
- 54:57Speaker 15: I think when the studies themselves are being done almost
- 55:00Speaker 15: always using pharmaceuticals, not the compounded types. There are compounds
- 55:06Speaker 15: that a pharmacy can make for you, which if you're
- 55:09Speaker 15: using the right kind of pharmacy, they'll be qualified, certified,
- 55:12Speaker 15: registered with their state board, passing all their inspections, and
- 55:16Speaker 15: you can feel confident that what's coming to you is
- 55:19Speaker 15: safe for you to consume, or you can do the
- 55:22Speaker 15: name brand stuff at your pharmacy that your insurance will cover.
- 55:25Speaker 15: So I'm sure that most of the studies that have
- 55:28Speaker 15: been done have been on the name brand stuff. But
- 55:30Speaker 15: the good news is the industry has been far ahead
- 55:36Speaker 15: of the regulations. I mean, for the last probably ten
- 55:38Speaker 15: to fifteen years, women have just done it anyways. They
- 55:42Speaker 15: have to pay cash for it, insurance doesn't cover it,
- 55:45Speaker 15: and we've had to have a lot of consent forms
- 55:47Speaker 15: and educational things to say, Okay, you know, you could
- 55:50Speaker 15: in theory have a heart attack or stroke, but there's
- 55:52Speaker 15: a lot of.
- 55:53Speaker 14: Options out there.
- 55:54Speaker 15: There's lots of functional medicine providers and pharmacies that give
- 55:57Speaker 15: women access to a lot of choices.
- 56:01Speaker 1: And by the way, we have one of those great
- 56:02Speaker 1: compound pharmacies sponsoring this part of the show each week,
- 56:06Speaker 1: pdlabs rx dot com. Friends, if you are looking for
- 56:09Speaker 1: a reliable compound pharmacy. But let me ask you, doctor
- 56:13Speaker 1: Laura Purdy, why was the negativity in the argument to
- 56:20Speaker 1: begin with? Was there a sense that you were messing
- 56:23Speaker 1: with nature? What was the what did what was the thinking?
- 56:26Speaker 1: I mean, I know at one point in time, medical
- 56:29Speaker 1: practitioners thought leeches were good to bleed people when they
- 56:32Speaker 1: had disease and stuff. So I know we've come a
- 56:34Speaker 1: long way in terms of like trial and error and
- 56:36Speaker 1: actually figuring out stuff that's real. But what did they
- 56:39Speaker 1: what did they try to tell people that they were
- 56:41Speaker 1: going to be more likely to be exposed to things
- 56:44Speaker 1: like cancer or what was the argument?
- 56:47Speaker 15: No, I honestly, I genuinely think it was largely a
- 56:50Speaker 15: gender discrepancy. I mean, I know that's kind of an
- 56:53Speaker 15: easy button to hit, but if you think about it,
- 56:55Speaker 15: think about it this way. Men have been able to
- 56:57Speaker 15: take testosterone whenever they have low testosterone for decades, and
- 57:02Speaker 15: that actually does increase their risk of stroke. It can
- 57:05Speaker 15: make your blood thicker, it can hurt your liver. You've
- 57:07Speaker 15: got to take all these tests when you're on testosterone
- 57:10Speaker 15: to make sure that you're not having thick blood count
- 57:14Speaker 15: or your livers, you know, not having problems. And despite
- 57:17Speaker 15: the fact that there are risks, men have been taking
- 57:19Speaker 15: it for decades, and I think for women there was
- 57:22Speaker 15: probably less research, less funding allocated, and it just it
- 57:28Speaker 15: was not a messing with nature. It's a direct analogy
- 57:30Speaker 15: to the testosterone thing. And there's actually lower risk of
- 57:33Speaker 15: side effects with the estrogen than there is the testosterone.
- 57:37Speaker 15: So I think it just took that long for enough
- 57:40Speaker 15: people to care enough about studying it to produce the
- 57:43Speaker 15: right kind of data to override maybe some old stuff
- 57:46Speaker 15: that wasn't high quality that said heart.
- 57:49Speaker 14: Attack and stroke risk if you take estrogen.
- 57:52Speaker 1: But to be clear, what you're saying now is that
- 57:54Speaker 1: the official recommendation is that there's not a necessarily increased
- 57:58Speaker 1: chance of stroke.
- 58:01Speaker 15: I think the exact recommendation is that it can be used,
- 58:04Speaker 15: it can be treated, and it can be done safely.
- 58:06Speaker 15: There are some patients that will have a higher risk
- 58:09Speaker 15: of breast cancer, you know, like, for example, if you're
- 58:11Speaker 15: increasing their estrogen, So do you have to make sure
- 58:14Speaker 15: you're still getting your mammograms and doing any blood work
- 58:16Speaker 15: that's relevant for you minimizing.
- 58:19Speaker 14: Your cardiac risk if you have a higher risk.
- 58:22Speaker 15: But the generic blanket recommendation that no women should ever
- 58:26Speaker 15: have it for any reason has been what is gone now?
- 58:30Speaker 1: Well, that is certainly a threshold that is historic in nature,
- 58:34Speaker 1: And just hearing you talk about it makes me think
- 58:37Speaker 1: of why I hate all the pharmaceutical ads on TV,
- 58:40Speaker 1: because there were there are companies invested in trying to
- 58:46Speaker 1: get you to try all kinds of things. And I
- 58:48Speaker 1: literally heard one, I think it was in the Super Bowl,
- 58:50Speaker 1: and I turned to my wife, I said, that's a
- 58:52Speaker 1: new disclaimer. The side effectgative potential negative side effect was death.
- 58:57Speaker 1: And yet there's saying but ask your doctor if you
- 59:01Speaker 1: can take it. I'm like, Okay, maybe we can find
- 59:04Speaker 1: maybe some other things that might work. I do think
- 59:08Speaker 1: that the market should be unless it's just really posing
- 59:12Speaker 1: an overwhelming danger to the citizenry. I think that there
- 59:15Speaker 1: should be a lot of leeway for doctors and patients
- 59:17Speaker 1: to figure out what works best individually for each person
- 59:21Speaker 1: that they're dealing with. Because you know, as well as
- 59:23Speaker 1: inbody doctor Purty, none of us know two of us
- 59:25Speaker 1: are exactly alike, right.
- 59:28Speaker 15: We believe in patient autonomy but also shared decision making.
- 59:32Speaker 15: Just like before you have a surgery. There's always risk
- 59:35Speaker 15: associated with surgery, but we do it anyways a lot
- 59:37Speaker 15: of times. So talking about the risk, talking about suitability
- 59:41Speaker 15: and the patient, I mean, you're assuming the risk, you're
- 59:45Speaker 15: taking on the risk yourself. And I'm happy that we
- 59:48Speaker 15: now have the opportunity to let women have more of
- 59:51Speaker 15: a choice in what they do for their lives their
- 59:54Speaker 15: bodies at that stage in their life.
- 59:56Speaker 1: One of the things that you have really pioneered is
- 59:59Speaker 1: the whole concept of digital medicine and telemeds and the
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: ability to treat people at a distance and to be
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: able to treat more people and swellcare. Dot health is
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: a really shining example of how modern day healthcare is done.
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: What's the latest in that field? We have a couple
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: of minutes before first break, just what's the latest in
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: terms of what's developing for patients. That's really kind of
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: cutting edge.
- 1:00:25Speaker 15: Well, telemedicine is here to stay, and it's really interesting
- 1:00:28Speaker 15: because there are lots and lots and lots of companies
- 1:00:31Speaker 15: out there that sub specialize in different facets of medicine.
- 1:00:36Speaker 15: But now we have access to lots of different pharmacies
- 1:00:39Speaker 15: that create lots of different products and lots of different
- 1:00:42Speaker 15: ways to connect with patients.
- 1:00:44Speaker 14: The state laws have been loosening up a little, so
- 1:00:46Speaker 14: when it comes.
- 1:00:47Speaker 15: To chat phone video, we have better tools and technology
- 1:00:53Speaker 15: and regulations than we did before.
- 1:00:54Speaker 14: So I think now is an amazing time for women.
- 1:00:58Speaker 15: Actually, menopause is a great issue to treat virtually because
- 1:01:03Speaker 15: as long as you've had a mammogram or you've had
- 1:01:05Speaker 15: some blood work and you're having an annual physical with
- 1:01:08Speaker 15: your doctor, we can actually pick it up from there.
- 1:01:11Speaker 15: And help you virtually without sending you to an in
- 1:01:14Speaker 15: person office every couple of weeks.
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: Well, that's that's a huge benefit to everybody that's got
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: a busy schedule, which is just about everybody. It's well
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: Thiss Wednesday. She's doctor Laura Perty. I'm Kevin McCullough. We're
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: coming right back from Times Square. Don't go anywhere.
- 1:01:32Speaker 7: Let's stick around for more of that. Kevin next here
- 1:01:53Speaker 7: he is from New York.
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: That Kevin.
- 1:01:58Speaker 7: Kevin McCullough.
- 1:02:00Speaker 13: Welcome back, Kavin McCullough. I've had you with us every
- 1:02:02Speaker 13: now and then we talk wellness, and.
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: Every now and then I get the pleasure of speaking
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: with doctor Laura Perty, who's doing great, great work at
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: a place called swellcare dot health. Swellcare dot health if
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: you want to look it up online. Doctor Purdy, before
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: you took time off and had your baby and disappeared
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: for a little while before you came back. The weight loss,
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: weight loss, weight loss, weight loss. Everybody's talking weight loss,
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: everybody's doing weight loss. Everybody seems to have done pretty
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: good with weight loss. I mean, I'm seeing people on
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: TV that I knew in person twenty years ago. I
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: don't recognize them because they've lost so much weight. But
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: you have like major, major global superstars like Serena Williams
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: who's doing endorsements on GLP shots and other things. There's
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: been a lot of controversy. There's been a lot of questions,
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: there's been a lot of lawsuits. There's been a lot
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: of people looking under the hood at the different types
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: of weight loss products that are out there, not just
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: GLP ones or twos, but whatever the tetrahydrocide or whatever
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: that's called is. But there's so many different ways that
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: people are going about it. Now, give us a kind
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: of a state of the state on weight loss from
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: where you sit absolutely.
- 1:03:13Speaker 15: And I feel like I should give a disclaimer. This
- 1:03:15Speaker 15: is not legal advice, it's not medical advice. We're just
- 1:03:17Speaker 15: having a conversation.
- 1:03:18Speaker 14: Okay, rrect.
- 1:03:20Speaker 15: So what has happened over the last few years now,
- 1:03:22Speaker 15: Swell Medical Orswellcare dot Health, we have been treating patients
- 1:03:26Speaker 15: for weight loss since twenty twenty one, right after the pandemic.
- 1:03:29Speaker 15: We have this massive collection of patients that we had
- 1:03:33Speaker 15: for urgent care and the first wave of weight loss
- 1:03:36Speaker 15: patients we're seeing us in twenty twenty one.
- 1:03:38Speaker 14: So we've been doing this for five years.
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:03:41Speaker 14: What has happened is when the name.
- 1:03:43Speaker 15: Brand medications came out five years ago, there was dismal access.
- 1:03:47Speaker 15: Most insurances would not cover it. Most patients didn't have
- 1:03:50Speaker 15: the proper paperwork and blood work that they needed to
- 1:03:53Speaker 15: get the insurance to pay for it. Even if they
- 1:03:55Speaker 15: would and the coverage would stop and start, it would
- 1:03:58Speaker 15: be there, it would disappear.
- 1:03:59Speaker 14: Family members could get it, they couldn't.
- 1:04:01Speaker 15: It was a disaster, and the only medications that existed
- 1:04:04Speaker 15: were name brand for diabetes. Fast forward, more medications specifically
- 1:04:09Speaker 15: came out name brand for obesity, and then they got
- 1:04:12Speaker 15: additional conditions added to them like sleep, apnea on a
- 1:04:15Speaker 15: kidney disease, cardiovascular mortality which is huge. And then due
- 1:04:20Speaker 15: to supply issues because in those early years it was
- 1:04:23Speaker 15: impossible to get supply in certain parts of the country.
- 1:04:27Speaker 15: It was absolutely an access to care issue. So that's
- 1:04:30Speaker 15: when the compounding pharmacies stepped in. Right, wrong or indifferent, right,
- 1:04:35Speaker 15: This is just the way that it worked. The compounding
- 1:04:37Speaker 15: pharmacy stepped in to create using the raw materials, the products,
- 1:04:42Speaker 15: and a lot of times they would add in additional medication,
- 1:04:45Speaker 15: so they weren't infringing on the copyright like B twelve
- 1:04:47Speaker 15: for fatigue, B six for navia glycine for muscle bulking,
- 1:04:52Speaker 15: because it's you technically can't mass produce something that's underpatent.
- 1:04:56Speaker 15: Fast forwarding from there, it opened up a gold rush
- 1:05:00Speaker 15: to the entire country because now this is essentially seen
- 1:05:05Speaker 15: as a way for people.
- 1:05:06Speaker 14: To make money.
- 1:05:07Speaker 15: So all of these companies, many of whom were already
- 1:05:10Speaker 15: providing other services to patients, they had big patient databases.
- 1:05:15Speaker 15: They all immediately decided that they were going to do glps.
- 1:05:19Speaker 14: So we call it the GLP gold rush.
- 1:05:22Speaker 15: And the industry was flooded with hundreds of companies, And
- 1:05:26Speaker 15: now it's being flooded with hundreds of people that don't
- 1:05:29Speaker 15: actually come from the healthcare industry. Affiliate marketers, tech people,
- 1:05:34Speaker 15: business people, and they're all trying to create GLP companies
- 1:05:38Speaker 15: as fast as they can to sell the highest quantity
- 1:05:42Speaker 15: at the lowest dollar value of these medications. What I'm
- 1:05:46Speaker 15: seeing these days is a massive commercialization of the entire industry,
- 1:05:52Speaker 15: low quality. They've eliminated the human touch. I've had people
- 1:05:56Speaker 15: tell me that their consultations this is true. Founder of
- 1:06:00Speaker 15: GLP companies that tell me the average time of a
- 1:06:03Speaker 15: consultation is zero point eight seconds.
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: That's barely long enough to vocally say something into a
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: chatbot and let it be read by the other side.
- 1:06:15Speaker 14: I know.
- 1:06:16Speaker 15: But what's happening is they're running it like affiliate marketing.
- 1:06:20Speaker 15: You could think they're just blasting out these performance marketing ads,
- 1:06:24Speaker 15: trying to get the lowest cost for patient acquisition, pay
- 1:06:27Speaker 15: the doctors the lowest amount of money, automate everything they
- 1:06:30Speaker 15: can inside the system, and they're really just trying to
- 1:06:33Speaker 15: make as much money as possible.
- 1:06:34Speaker 14: I mean, that is the fact.
- 1:06:36Speaker 15: So they've removed what I consider to be the most
- 1:06:40Speaker 15: important part of the whole thing, which is the doctor
- 1:06:43Speaker 15: patient connection. It's the relationship between the clinician and the
- 1:06:48Speaker 15: patient on the other side of it, where the magic happens,
- 1:06:51Speaker 15: where the healing happens. And that's been essentially removed or
- 1:06:54Speaker 15: substituted with automated systems so that these businesses can just
- 1:06:59Speaker 15: sell as much as they want want of their high volume,
- 1:07:02Speaker 15: low dollar product. And so for the records, we don't
- 1:07:04Speaker 15: operate that way.
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: What's the fix for that? I mean, how should doctors
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: be how should companies be doing it? And what do
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: you guys do that distinguishes you from that kind of
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: mass chaos.
- 1:07:15Speaker 15: Well, I have got a slight glimpse into what I
- 1:07:18Speaker 15: hope is the future of healthcare regulation because in the
- 1:07:21Speaker 15: state of Iowa they actually started regulating medspas at the state.
- 1:07:27Speaker 14: Medical board level.
- 1:07:28Speaker 15: Now, medspas are not telemedicine companies, but what I hope
- 1:07:31Speaker 15: that's going to do is set a precedent to have
- 1:07:34Speaker 15: regulatory oversight over all businesses that deliver care.
- 1:07:39Speaker 14: Because let me give you an example.
- 1:07:41Speaker 15: If Kevin decides that Kevin wants to make kevin'sglp ones
- 1:07:45Speaker 15: dot com, there's no regulatory agency aside from like the
- 1:07:49Speaker 15: FDA if you illegally market. But if you don't illegally market,
- 1:07:53Speaker 15: there's nobody that can hold you accountable for your practices.
- 1:07:56Speaker 15: Who can I know, who can inspect you and say,
- 1:07:59Speaker 15: Kevin business, No, you have a one second doctor patient encounter.
- 1:08:04Speaker 14: The doctor can get in trouble, but you can't.
- 1:08:07Speaker 15: So my hope is that what we see is that
- 1:08:09Speaker 15: eventually someday all telemedicine companies have to be registered, inspected, audited,
- 1:08:15Speaker 15: and regulated by the state level where they do business,
- 1:08:18Speaker 15: or they can have their business license revoked.
- 1:08:21Speaker 14: That's what I hope.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: I love that idea. And on that note, doctor Laura Perty,
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: we're out of time, but friends go to Swellcare Health
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: swellcare dot health to find out more about everything that
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: she and her team do. And Laura, we'll see again soon.
- 1:08:34Speaker 14: Thank Kevin, thanks for having me.
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin mckellach coming right back from Time.
- 1:08:38Speaker 10: Square downboing here he is from New York. Exact Kevin,
- 1:08:57Speaker 10: Kevin McCullough.
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: All right, have you with us. It's that Kevin Show,
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: that kevinshow dot com and you know that. During the week,
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: I of course talk about the big headlines of the day.
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: We talk about the news, we get into all the
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: stuff that's going on in the world, but I also
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: talk about travel. I also talk about wellness. I want
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: to give you tools in your life to help keep
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: you safe and to keep you healthy and to keep
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: you active. And one of the things that I came
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: across a few years ago was this little company called Medjet.
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: I had had a sister that had worked in the
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: travel emergency medical arena. She had been a nurse on
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: a flight ambulance and she had done a lot of
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: work to help people get back to the US when
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: they are injured or deathly sick in another country. And
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: as I was thinking about taking my family on a
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: trip to Italy, I was like, well, what happens if
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: we get over there, and even in a developed country,
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: I don't have what I necessarily need or want. That's
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: where I discovered Medjet. From the moment that I met
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: John and Sherry and the team, I was just so impressed.
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: And now I'm never going to fly my family anywhere
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: without them. I'm not going to travel without them. And
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: now I'm traveling so much more with the new show
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: and being on in seven hundred cities. We've got a
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: lot of things that we've got to do and be
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: in places, and I'm just I'm glad to travel with
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: the protection that Medjet offers us. We were just talking
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: with John Goebbels, who is the CEO, about the Medjet
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: Assist program. But John, you do offer this other thing
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: called Medjet Horizon. And as people have watched the news
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: in recent weeks of what's going on in Mexico, it's
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: not just the fact that the government killed a cartel member,
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: but then there was violence that spread up from that.
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: Americans were told to shelter in place. There's another layer
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: of help that Medjet offers, and it's not always evacuation,
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: but there is a kind of rationale to what you
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: guys do. And what I love more than anything is
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: that you're there twenty four hours a day. I call
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: the number going to get Medjet to give me the
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: right counsel on what I need to do, but walk
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: us through how Medjet Horizon works.
- 1:11:06Speaker 3: So Meget Horizon is kind of an add on membership
- 1:11:09Speaker 3: to our Medjet Assists, which is the air medical program.
- 1:11:12Speaker 3: And what is basically what everybody wants to talk about
- 1:11:15Speaker 3: is the travel security and crisis response portion of that.
- 1:11:18Speaker 3: The Medjet Horizon membership portion is run by focus Point International,
- 1:11:23Speaker 3: who is a great strategic partner of ours. They have
- 1:11:25Speaker 3: got the guys in the call centers that have done
- 1:11:29Speaker 3: this and been around the world doing things that you
- 1:11:31Speaker 3: and I don't do and making those decisions so they
- 1:11:35Speaker 3: can help with that. It does do some other things
- 1:11:38Speaker 3: such some ground transport and antiller items, but really what
- 1:11:41Speaker 3: we want to talk about today, I think is a
- 1:11:42Speaker 3: travel security and crisis response and that provides you access
- 1:11:46Speaker 3: to that team of professionals. As you said, twenty four
- 1:11:49Speaker 3: hours a day, seven days a week. You can call
- 1:11:52Speaker 3: them if you're feeling unsafe at any point and get
- 1:11:56Speaker 3: some real time help. Then may result in an evacuation,
- 1:12:02Speaker 3: security evacuation, or it may not really depending on the
- 1:12:05Speaker 3: scenario and the circumstances of what is going on. But
- 1:12:09Speaker 3: it is a valuable tool to have in the world today.
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: Do you know if you've had any members that have
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: been impacted by the Mexico situation and if you've heard
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: from them.
- 1:12:20Speaker 3: Yeah, So we've got at least probably seven or eight
- 1:12:24Speaker 3: that have made contact directly with MEGA. Initially we have
- 1:12:28Speaker 3: a group let's say group, but several more and I
- 1:12:31Speaker 3: won't have final numbers really until this is over. The
- 1:12:34Speaker 3: contact and focus point directly which is the proper plan
- 1:12:38Speaker 3: to do. They all of our members have their crisis
- 1:12:41Speaker 3: Response Center number to that and right now at this point,
- 1:12:45Speaker 3: which I think we've seen a lot, is the members
- 1:12:47Speaker 3: are really kind of sheltering in place. It has become
- 1:12:50Speaker 3: very difficult recently to be doing evacuations, certainly in armored vehicles,
- 1:12:58Speaker 3: in anything that looks other than a regular car or
- 1:13:02Speaker 3: truck in Mexico because those are targeted. So there are
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: roadblocks and any of these transport issues that are going on.
- 1:13:11Speaker 3: They're targets and that is a very dangerous place to be.
- 1:13:14Speaker 3: So right now, unless you're kind of going gray or
- 1:13:17Speaker 3: in a way of looking like a national citizen in
- 1:13:21Speaker 3: those type of vehicles that are run down, you're a target.
- 1:13:24Speaker 3: And right now they're not pulling people from hotels and
- 1:13:27Speaker 3: things of that nature. It could escalate to that, but
- 1:13:30Speaker 3: right now, the samest thing to do for our members
- 1:13:32Speaker 3: is to shelter in place they are able to contact
- 1:13:34Speaker 3: and have daily updates from the crisis teams that are
- 1:13:37Speaker 3: monitoring them. There may be some movements to different areas
- 1:13:40Speaker 3: depending on where they're at. They've really got some people
- 1:13:43Speaker 3: that are able to hold their hands through this and
- 1:13:45Speaker 3: really provide that service.
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: What about the Olympics, were there any emergencies that you
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: know of that you guys had medical or otherwise for
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: the people attending there or was that a safe non
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: event for you guys?
- 1:14:00Speaker 3: Yeah, from a security standpoint though, everything was fine as
- 1:14:03Speaker 3: you've seen, and we were our members were very lucky
- 1:14:06Speaker 3: at least medically everything was fine. We actually had had
- 1:14:12Speaker 3: no one from our standpoint contact us for any type
- 1:14:15Speaker 3: of medical transport. So yeah, it was a great Olympics
- 1:14:18Speaker 3: for the US and as well.
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: Yeah, some gold medal winning there. If people want to
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: add on the Medjet Horizon, how does that change the
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: membership equation for them?
- 1:14:30Speaker 3: Sure, I mean it's really just the pricing, as you said.
- 1:14:33Speaker 3: I mean if we look at an individual Medjet Horizon
- 1:14:36Speaker 3: membership which has the medical transport as well, it's an
- 1:14:39Speaker 3: add on to that. It's only four seventy five for
- 1:14:42Speaker 3: an individual, six fourteen for a family, and that is
- 1:14:45Speaker 3: compared to just the medical transport portion which is three
- 1:14:48Speaker 3: point fifteen and four to twenty five. So it's not
- 1:14:51Speaker 3: a huge add on in cost for a nice dinner
- 1:14:54Speaker 3: out in Italy. Like you said, you can you can
- 1:14:57Speaker 3: have that protection and not have to worry about it
- 1:15:00Speaker 3: and travel in the comfort and security of having mege.
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: What drew you into this line of work? What was
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: it about this that you personally said, I want to
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: be about that.
- 1:15:08Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean personally, my entire life has been
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: in public safety, so you know forire our EMS and
- 1:15:15Speaker 3: law enforcement work for my entire career. Then I got
- 1:15:18Speaker 3: into air medical transport as a critical care nurse, which
- 1:15:21Speaker 3: kind of you know, had me in that position to
- 1:15:23Speaker 3: be able to see all sides, so to speak.
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: And a lot of.
- 1:15:26Speaker 3: Hats, yeah, a lot of different and that's what they
- 1:15:28Speaker 3: would would call me. I had a lot of hats
- 1:15:31Speaker 3: in my office that they got me for that, but
- 1:15:33Speaker 3: really meget was something that gave me the ability to
- 1:15:36Speaker 3: use kind of all of my curriculum that I had
- 1:15:39Speaker 3: in my previous life in all aspects. And it's a
- 1:15:42Speaker 3: company what it says that they do, and that for
- 1:15:45Speaker 3: me is very important. And that's why I've been here
- 1:15:47Speaker 3: almost twenty years now. So you know, we've done thousands
- 1:15:50Speaker 3: and thousands of medical transports and I would never and
- 1:15:54Speaker 3: if I'm not here, I would never travel without it.
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: There's friends, I just got to tell you, there's nothing
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: like it. Go and check it out medjet dot com.
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: Thank you for sponsoring our show, John, I know we're
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: hoping a lot helping a lot of people and friends.
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: Again in twenty twenty six, Medjet would like to give
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: some one twenty twenty six dollars and if you go
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: to that Kevinshow dot com you can register for the contest.
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: We're we draw the name a little later the spring,
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: but go to that kevinshow dot com click promotions and
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: you can sign up right there. John, keep up the
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: good work.
- 1:16:23Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you, sir, I appreciate you.
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: You got it. Kevin mccallach coming right back from Times Square. Yeah,
- 1:16:28Speaker 1: we still got snow. Don't go anywhere. Let's stick around
- 1:16:33Speaker 1: for more of that.
- 1:16:34Speaker 9: Kevin next, serving it up with a no drink mittal.
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: It's that Kevin Show. So glad you're with us. As
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: we round out the second hour of the Wednesday broadcast,
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: we call it Wellness Wednesday sometimes times because we talk
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: about your health and we talk about wellness and what
- 1:17:05Speaker 1: it all means, and glad to do so. Thanks to
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: doctor Purdy who joined us, and thanks to Medjet for
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: all the good that they're doing. I know that they're
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: getting tapped in the Iranian crisis, and just so glad
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: we can bring that help to you. And if you'd
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: like to win twenty twenty six dollars from Medjet in
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, we're going to draw a name. Some
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: very fortunate person is going to win that. Go to
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: that kevinshow dot com click on promotions, sign up for
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: the drawing. A new study is suggesting that middle aged
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: men may be more vulnerable to faster biological aging, potentially
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: linked to exposure to forever chemicals those sound scary. The
- 1:17:47Speaker 1: research published in the journal Frontiers and Aging examined how
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: perfluorocal fulacle and poly flur alocal substances hey you pronounce it,
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: you do any better? More commonly known as pfas, could
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: impact aging at the cellular level. Pfas are synthetic chemicals
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: commonly used in nonstick cookware, food packaging, water resistant fabrics,
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: and other consumer products. According to the study, their chemical
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: structure makes them highly resistant to breaking down, allowing them
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: to accumulate in water, soil, and the human body. Some
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: Chinese researchers analyze blood samples from about three hundred and
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: twenty six adults enrolled in the US National Health and
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: Nutrition Examination Survey between nineteen ninety nine and two thousand
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: and The researchers measured levels of eleven PFA compounds in
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: the participant's blood and use DNA based epigenic epigenetic clocks
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: tools that analyze chemical changes to DNA to estimate biological
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: age to determine how quickly their bodies were aging at
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: the cellular level. The study stated two compounds, the PFNA
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: and the pfosa, were detected in ninety five percent of
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: the participants. Higher concentrations of those chemicals were associated with
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: faster biological aging in men of certain age groups, but
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: not in women. Huh great, so we dudes, we have
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: it affect us more. The compounds most strongly linked to
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: accelerated aging were not the PFAS chemicals that typically received
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: the most public attention. The associations were strongest in adults
- 1:19:39Speaker 1: aged fifty to sixty four, particularly in men, and while
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: this does not establish that pfas cause aging, it suggests
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: that these widely present forever chemicals may be linked to
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: molecular changes. So there you go, guys. It's not fair,
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: but we're aging a little bit faster. And this is why,
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: by the way, I take my balance of nature, all
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: of those phido chemicals in the veggies and the fruits
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: doing all the good fighting on my behalf help offset
- 1:20:11Speaker 1: this stuff. So I'm not saying it's a I'm not
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: saying it's a silver bullet, but I do think that
- 1:20:19Speaker 1: I do think that it makes a difference. So lots
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: and lots and lots of fruits and vegetables can, in
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: my opinion, help offset some of the things that you're
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: seeing in some of these areas. Okay, so that's it
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: for today. We've got a lot that we're going to
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: get to every day, of course, but thank you for
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: being here. Thank you to Doctor Party, thank you to
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: mister Gobbles, thank you to John i Elo, and thank
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: you to Bishop Nelson for being with us and friends.
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: I just want you to come on back every day.
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: We're gonna do everything we can through the most common
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: sense available, help you you understand the world around you
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: and then also how you can make a difference in
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: the world as you live in it. And I'm so
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: humbled and honored and grateful to get to go on
- 1:21:11Speaker 1: that journey with you every single day. Thank you for
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: being here, thank you for telling your friends, and thank
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: you for coming on back. Calvin mccallaugh is saying, have
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: a great one and we'll see you next time.