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Ian Furness 10/7 H2: Hang the banners! Stewart Mandel and the Daily Power Play! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: All righty. Headlines are brought to you by Frost Brewed
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  Speaker 1: Coors Light. Is that true, Ashley? Is that still the case?
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  Speaker 2: That is still the case. You know they're cold as
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  Speaker 2: the Rockies, don't you?
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was told. Cold as the Rockies
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  Speaker 1: is what they like to tell you. And you know what?
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't had a beer for a
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  Speaker 1: few days.
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  Speaker 2: You should probably change that today.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, God, that sounds like I got a problem. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God.
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  Speaker 2: Or it just sounds like it tastes so good.
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  Speaker 1: Did I just say that out loud like it's a
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  Speaker 1: bad thing? I haven't had a beer in a few days.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like, hmm, that sounds delicious.
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  Speaker 1: It does sound delicious right now. Cold as the Rockies.
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  Speaker 1: Rough night for the Kraken last night. Golden Knights in town.
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  Speaker 1: Vegas scored a lot early, often, many times, lots of times,
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  Speaker 1: too many times. 6-2 loss for the Kraken. Ended up
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  Speaker 1: being a pretty physical game. Someone called a gong show.
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  Speaker 1: I might.
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  Speaker 4: Close.
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  Speaker 1: It was close. Silver lining, if you want. After the
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  Speaker 1: Kraken play a five-game road trip, they come home on
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  Speaker 1: the 20th to take on Detroit, and then on October
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  Speaker 1: 30th to see the Flames again. That's a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: And I think they see them on November 3rd or 4th, too.
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  Speaker 1: November 4th. That'll be it. Final game of the four-game
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  Speaker 1: set this year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, then they don't see them again the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the year.
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  Speaker 1: That's unfortunate, because I can tell you this. At least
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  Speaker 1: one of those teams, maybe both, but at least one
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  Speaker 1: of those teams ain't going to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The team up in Alberta, Canada, ain't. We'll get more
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  Speaker 1: news from Greg Bell in just a couple seconds on
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  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's news conference. We'll stand by for that. We'll
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  Speaker 1: find out who's in, who's out, what's going on. We
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  Speaker 1: had Derek Holland early, if you missed it. Great interview.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be podcast later on. We may replay part of
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  Speaker 1: that on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking that same thing. I saved it.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you worry.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley won't be here Friday. She doesn't really care.
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  Speaker 2: No, but I think the listeners would, and I care
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  Speaker 2: about the listeners.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what? You care about the show, and
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: That's the truth.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Ah, let's see what else we got
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  Speaker 1: going on. Jon Rahm, leaving Live Golf. Not a surprise.
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  Speaker 1: They were trying to keep him for Live 2.0, but
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  Speaker 1: he says, look, there's no money there. You're in bankruptcy.
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  Speaker 1: I like to make money. Screw you. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: go grovel to the PGA Tour and try to get
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  Speaker 1: back on there. Actually, he's going to go, I think,
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  Speaker 1: to the European Tour for a while and do that.
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  Speaker 1: They're nicer over in Europe than we are over here,
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  Speaker 1: so nobody likes you, Jon. It's true. That's true. NFL
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  Speaker 1: news and notes. Cam Juergens, now a member of the
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, after a trade with the Eagles, sent the
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  Speaker 1: two-time Pro Bowl center and a seventh-round pick to the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens in exchange for a fifth-round pick next season and
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  Speaker 1: a second-rounder in 2028. How about Odell Beckham Jr., signing
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  Speaker 1: with the Vikings practice squad after being released by the Giants,
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  Speaker 1: and Niners fullback, that's right, Niners fullback, Kyle Juszczyk. His
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  Speaker 1: fine has been canceled. He appealed saying, I don't drink beer.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't drink Frostbrew Coors like cold as the Rockies.
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  Speaker 1: It was a juice celebration, and the NFL said, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we believe you. We're not going to fine you after all,
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  Speaker 1: even though we're the no fun league. We'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: this with Stuart Mandel at 120 today, but right now
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  Speaker 1: there's no plans to cancel or postpone the Georgia-Alabama game.
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  Speaker 1: Hurricane moving in there, but there should be some pretty
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  Speaker 1: good stuff going on. as far as weather clearing out
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  Speaker 1: by the time the game is played on Saturday. Let's
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  Speaker 1: get to our number two of the show. Should mention
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  Speaker 1: Cooper Cupps spoke today. Leonard Williams did not. And as
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  Speaker 1: we're out here every Wednesday at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center,
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you that normally Leonard Williams speaks on Wednesdays.
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  Speaker 1: It's Cooper Cup and Leonard Williams come in. It's Mike McDonald,
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  Speaker 1: Leonard Williams, Cooper Cup, in that order. They come in
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  Speaker 1: and speak. That did not happen today. It was Jaron
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  Speaker 1: Reed instead who took the place representing the defensive line
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  Speaker 1: of Leonard Williams. So read into that what you like.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get more from Greg in just a couple seconds.
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  Speaker 1: He's wrapping things up in the locker room as we speak.
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  Speaker 1: So stand by for that. that's the big story this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the health of the Seahawks. And I think
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  Speaker 1: the best news, I told Len this today. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: really talked about it. We did talk about it with
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  Speaker 1: Hugh a little bit the other day. One of the
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  Speaker 1: big things is getting Julian Love back was huge. Like
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  Speaker 1: just absolutely. Yes. Just a massive mass. And Ty Okada
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  Speaker 1: is going to practice today. That's also big. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think with with Julian specifically, but Ty is like
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  Speaker 1: an extension of Mike McDonald. We've had him on the
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  Speaker 1: show a few times. He's a fun guy to talk to.
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  Speaker 1: His voice sounds like Sean McVay. What he says sounds
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  Speaker 1: like Mike McDonald. It's kind of a weird, if people
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  Speaker 1: haven't heard his interviews, it's kind of disturbing in a
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  Speaker 1: sense because he's got that Sean McVay voice, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just going to get out there. But he's
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  Speaker 1: channeling his inner Mike McDonald as a defensive guy. So
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  Speaker 1: But that'll be big. If you get two starting safeties
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  Speaker 1: back against it, you just need them against this team.
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  Speaker 1: You just absolutely flat out need them against this team.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to hit on this real quick while we
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  Speaker 1: wait for Greg. Ashley, do you watch the local news much?
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes. Sometimes I find it too death, death, and deathy.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 1: It is that way. My friend Lauren Donovan at Fox
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  Speaker 1: 13 and other reporters and even other reporters with the
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  Speaker 1: local newspaper did a story with the Museum of History
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  Speaker 1: and Industry. And I don't know if you saw this,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm going to take it a different direction. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: they're actually bringing out and bringing back. They've been storing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why they were storing it, but like
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  Speaker 1: maybe there's just room and they have different, I, I
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  Speaker 1: should probably be more of a museum guy. My apologies.
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  Speaker 2: Not, not my, but how dare you?
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  Speaker 1: I know. So maybe they're just like, it's cause I've
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  Speaker 1: been like, have you ever been to the rock and
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  Speaker 1: roll hall of fame? I have not. No, it's really cool.
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  Speaker 1: It's in Cleveland. It's one of the outside of the mustard.
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  Speaker 1: It's the best thing about Cleveland.
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  Speaker 2: Outside of the mustard. Of course.
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  Speaker 1: The mustard. Yes. They, they have a, when I last
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  Speaker 1: couple of times I've been there, they've had like on the,
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  Speaker 1: They rotate different exhibits.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why I thought you were going to
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  Speaker 2: say they rotate different mustards.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: That reminds me. I could order that stuff. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to see if I can find that on Amazon. But
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  Speaker 1: they do that. Well, maybe that mohai is the same way.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody will tell us at 49451. But they've
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  Speaker 1: been holding on to, for a while, well, I guess
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  Speaker 1: 18 years, they've been holding on to all the Sonics
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  Speaker 1: banners and just some memorabilia from when the Sonics left.
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  Speaker 1: And they're bringing that out. They're doing a basketball-centric exhibit, basically,
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  Speaker 1: which will be next spring. It's called Sonic Boom. And
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  Speaker 1: they're going to show they've got the banners from conference championships.
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  Speaker 1: They've got jerseys, nameplates, and others. And I was just
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  Speaker 1: thinking this the other day, and I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: it could work, but I wish it was part of
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  Speaker 1: climate polygamy right now. I look across from where we
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  Speaker 1: do our shows, whether it was last night in the
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  Speaker 1: press box or normally when I'm doing the studio stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and a shout-out to my friend Chris Egan, did a
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  Speaker 1: great job last night. And I see the Metropolitan banner,
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  Speaker 1: which that's a whole different topic. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: get into it because Laiwick, you'll get mad at me,
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  Speaker 1: but that. But the Storm have their banner. Sue's jersey
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  Speaker 1: is retired. Lauren Jackson's jersey is retired. And I love that. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I love getting that stuff up there. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's cool. And they have their, you know, the championship.
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  Speaker 1: Think of the Storm, they've won four of them.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, you know, WNBA champions, they have four. Unlike,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like a lot of teams, if you have one,
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  Speaker 1: you just have one, right? Right. They have the one
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  Speaker 1: banner that has to list all the years because they're
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  Speaker 1: that good. So they're hanging up there. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: I wish we had the Sonics title banner up there.
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  Speaker 1: That's the only one I need right now. If we're
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  Speaker 1: going to have the Metropolitan, like, can we not have
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  Speaker 1: the Sonics 79 title? Banner hanging in Climate Pledge Arena.
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  Speaker 1: I would think you could. Because, let me point out,
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  Speaker 1: it would be hanging from, wait for it, the iconic roof.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: It's still the same roof, last I checked. I mean, they,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my friends at State Roofing are your friends
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  Speaker 1: at where?
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  Speaker 2: North Creek Roofing.
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  Speaker 1: They may have, one of those companies, great companies in
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  Speaker 1: the Northwest, may have replaced the roof itself, like the
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  Speaker 1: shingles and stuff, but that's the same roof. I saw
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  Speaker 1: that story, and I'm like, why can't I go into
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  Speaker 1: that building and see the Sonic 79 title banner there?
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  Speaker 1: And honestly, to be honest with you, I know the
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  Speaker 1: NBA's not here anymore, but neither are the damn Metropolitans.
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  Speaker 1: And I wouldn't mind seeing the retired numbers up there
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  Speaker 1: for the Sonics. Now, maybe time will come and all
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  Speaker 1: that's going to happen. Maybe you don't need Lenny's number
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  Speaker 1: and Gus and all those guys and Bob Blackburn's microphone,
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  Speaker 1: but give me the banners. Like it's cool. It's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a mo high. Give me that one banner.
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  Speaker 1: Can I just not have that one banner? Can I
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  Speaker 1: not go in there and look at that? And can I,
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  Speaker 1: am I asking for too much there?
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  Speaker 6: I don't think so at all. I think that would be,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I think it would be nice. And yeah,
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  Speaker 6: maybe they are waiting until the team comes back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe.
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  Speaker 2: And then it's like all a big celebration.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe people think it would be depressing to see those
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  Speaker 6: and a reminder of the team we used to have
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  Speaker 6: that we don't have.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe it'll.
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  Speaker 1: Be, we're getting it back. Ash is coming here.
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  Speaker 2: And it's, it's, I hope so.
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  Speaker 1: We are, if we're, It's hard to count down the
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  Speaker 1: days without knowing the ultimate day. Like, I'm sure Palmer
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  Speaker 1: counts down the days until Christmas, right? Or her birthday today. Yeah, both, both. Yeah, right?
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  Speaker 1: Because usually there's something involved, like gifts or what have you.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to count down the days when we don't
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  Speaker 1: have a definitive, like December 25th, the definitive date. It's coming.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be. We are going to have a
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  Speaker 1: day to celebrate here in Seattle sometime before the end
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  Speaker 1: of the calendar year. it just, it's, it's inevitable. It's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen. It is going to happen. So when
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  Speaker 1: that day does happen, I can't wait. It's going to
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  Speaker 1: be awesome. Um, but I want that banner hanging up there.
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  Speaker 1: I like to go there. When I go there 41
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  Speaker 1: times a year, I want to see that damn banner.
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  Speaker 1: I want to see 79 banner. I agree. Just, just,
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  Speaker 1: if nothing else, let's just have a reminder, let it
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  Speaker 1: hang there for two years, put the rest of them
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  Speaker 1: up after that. But just the 79 banner can be there.
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  Speaker 1: I should just text my wiki and say, can we
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  Speaker 1: get that up there?
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  Speaker 2: You can, but I do think they're just— What do
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  Speaker 2: you think he's going to say?
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  Speaker 6: I think he's going to say no. I think they're
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  Speaker 6: waiting until the day that it's announced that they're coming back.
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  Speaker 6: And I wouldn't be surprised if they don't wait until
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  Speaker 6: the day... I mean, if they don't wait until the
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  Speaker 6: season opens, I wouldn't be surprised if they.
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  Speaker 2: Once it's announced that it's official, then they do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe once the first season starts, you just kind
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  Speaker 1: of slowly have a banner night for everything. All the banners,
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  Speaker 1: like the retired numbers. We're going to unveil Lenny's number tonight.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to unveil Gus's number. Whatever it be.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great idea.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe do that. That would almost make sense because the
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  Speaker 1: team's going to win like 10 games the first year.
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  Speaker 1: So that's something to look forward to.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. A lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, I think we'll check in with Greg
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  Speaker 1: after we get a chance to go out and watch
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  Speaker 1: practice here in a little bit. They're going to hit
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  Speaker 1: the field here in about five or ten minutes, so
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  Speaker 1: we'll do that. We'll combine a little Greg Bell update, perhaps,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe just wait for Corbin coming up at 2.
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  Speaker 1: And then we've got a day with Power Play at 145.
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  Speaker 1: When we come back, let's talk a little college football.
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: Our guy Stu Mandel is going to join us. We'll
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  Speaker 1: talk to him, get his thoughts on what's going on
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  Speaker 1: around college football, a lot of stuff, including his thoughts
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: on the Washington-Iowa game coming up on Friday night. At
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  Speaker 1: Husky Stadium, 6 o'clock, also on the Fox Network, but
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: of course right here on 93.3 KGRFM with sideline reporter
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  Speaker 1: Dave Sofsymar leading the coverage. He's in charge of everything.
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  Speaker 1: Don't tell Elise that. That's coming up next. Stuart Mandel.
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  Speaker 5: All right, welcome back in.
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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 9, 3.3 with KJFM. Again, for us, we're
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  Speaker 1: with you at Seahawk headquarters today, getting ready for the
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: 49ers on Sunday. A bit of time to talk a
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  Speaker 1: little college football with our good friend Stuart Mandel from
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  Speaker 1: The Athletic and The Audible Podcast. Stuart, how are you,
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  Speaker 1: my friend?
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  Speaker 5: Good, Ian.
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  Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good. I'm very good. Hey, I loved–
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: this is one of my favorite topics of conversation. Usually
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: it's in August, but I loved– people can take a
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: listen to the long form of The Audible Podcast from
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  Speaker 1: a day or two ago. When you guys are talking
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  Speaker 1: about the AP Top 25 polls, how the polls are
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  Speaker 1: working and the issues with the polls, I found it
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  Speaker 1: very fascinating on a lot of levels because how fans
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  Speaker 1: get upset, other media get mad at other media and
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  Speaker 1: so forth. Let me take a step back as we're
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  Speaker 1: here five, six weeks into the college football season. What
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  Speaker 1: is Stuart Mandel's stance on polls, both preseason and in-season,
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  Speaker 1: and how relevant or irrelevant they should be?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I take a much lighter approach.
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  Speaker 1: They're fun.
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  Speaker 3: They make for fun debate. They tell you, oh, it
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  Speaker 3: was a big game this week between such and such,
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  Speaker 3: but fairly harmless. Now, I would love for the preseason
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  Speaker 3: polls to be forgotten at this point. We have five
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  Speaker 3: weeks of games to to judge the teams on. We
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  Speaker 3: don't need to be like, well, USC was 15th or
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  Speaker 3: whatever in the preseason, and they've only lost once, so
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  Speaker 3: maybe they should be 18th instead of... Have you watched USC?
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  Speaker 3: Do you really think they're a top-25 team? We're already
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  Speaker 3: talking about firing their coach because they look so bad. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I think.
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  Speaker 4: I can't.
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  Speaker 3: Remember if it was Bruce or Ralph. Somebody brought up
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  Speaker 3: the point of should we... Should the AP and the
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  Speaker 3: coaches end preseason polls? And I said, even if they do,
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  Speaker 3: it's not going to stop me from doing one. It's
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  Speaker 3: not going to stop CBS Sports from doing like 24.
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  Speaker 3: So everybody does offseason, preseason rankings, whether they're official or not.
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  Speaker 3: And so when you get to September, everybody kind of
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  Speaker 3: knows the pecking orders of the teams. So I don't
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  Speaker 3: know why them getting rid of it would change that.
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  Speaker 1: What I like about them, I guess, in a sense
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  Speaker 1: is I think they're fun for fans, which at some
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  Speaker 1: point needs to be remembered that college football needs fans
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  Speaker 1: and not that they're going away at large droves or anything.
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  Speaker 1: When I say that the fans like them, it's because
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  Speaker 1: if you're the underdog, and hell, I'll use Nebraska as
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  Speaker 1: an example. Nebraska's trying to get its first win over
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  Speaker 1: a ranked team in, what is it, 30 attempts or
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  Speaker 1: something like that? If they do at home, they're going
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  Speaker 1: to storm the field. That's fun. If they were just
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  Speaker 1: playing a team that there's no number next to the team,
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  Speaker 1: it's just another Big Ten game. And so, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think they're fun. I guess the question would be,
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  Speaker 1: does the college football playoff committee ever look at the
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  Speaker 1: AP or coaches poll? Because that's really the only thing
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  Speaker 1: that would matter and make it a problem if preseason
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  Speaker 1: polls and baked-in biases are there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the committee makes a big point of
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: not starting their rankings until early November. and that they
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: start with a blank canvas, but then when it comes out,
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: it's not that different than the eight people. There's usually
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: maybe one or two teams that they have a bit
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: higher or a bit lower, but it doesn't look completely different.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: And they're human beings. They read college football coverage. They
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: watch the games. They have the numbers in front of
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: the teams. It's really impossible to truly throw all that
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: stuff out.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Stuart Mandel joining us on Audible Podcast Athletic. All right,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: let me get to the games this weekend, and we'll
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: use rankings just for fun and giggles and talk about them.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: There are some pretty significant games. Let me start with
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: the game here in Seattle on Friday, and it's Washington
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: playing host to number 20, Iowa. And you wrote a
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: story in the mailbag about the tier system in the
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Big Ten. So I believe this is a Tier 2
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: versus Tier 4. Sorry, Huskies. I think Stu's got you
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: in the fourth tier. Iowa Tier 2. This feels like
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: a massive game for Iowa. Almost like an elimination game
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: for them, in a sense, Stu.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. I mean, obviously, there's no shame in
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: losing to Ohio State. But if this is going to
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: be a year where Iowa actually makes a playoff run
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: as opposed to, congrats, you won eight and four. It's
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: a good season. This is a game they have to win.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: And it's tough because you're traveling out west on a
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: short week after a big– you saw what happened on
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: Ole Miss the week after LSU and all the hoopla around.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: There was so much hoopla at Iowa. I don't think
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: they're going into this in a very good position today.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: but if they lose, chances of making the playoff go
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: become pretty slim.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: What's your read on Washington? Jed Fish in his third year.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: They go down to USC. They've got a chance. Unable
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: to overcome a USC team that most of us feel
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: is really not very good. Lincoln Riley's on the hot seat.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: It was a hot day and all those things, but
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Washington with that loss and the two losses and what
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: their schedule looks like, they're playing for whatever bowl they
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: can get into now. So what's your read on where
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: this Washington program is?
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: It's been a disappointing season, given the expectations coming in.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: I will say they looked better last week. Now, maybe
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: that's a more USC thing than a Washington thing, but
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, DeMond Williams is driving
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: them down the field with a chance to win in
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: the final minutes. You know, obviously the game turned in
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: a hurry on the scoop and score. So, yeah, they
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: didn't get embarrassed by any means, but they also weren't playing,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: you know, Indiana or Ohio state. So you're right. Like,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: I think at this point, a little bit of goal resetting,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: but if they can get their act together here and
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: then play pretty well down the stretch, you know, at
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: least you feel good about it or you feel better
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: about it than you do right now.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: The, you, you, the big 10 as a whole, is it,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: And I kind of like the tier system that you
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: put together. But if we look at the Big Ten
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: as a whole, is it really top-heavy, kind of like
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the SEC? How would you describe the Big Ten? Ohio State, Indiana,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Oregon all kind of feel like maybe they're separate. And
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: then it's kind of the middle class, and then it's
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: a lower class. But how would you describe how the
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Big Ten is? Because I think we all agree, the
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: SEC and the Big Ten, they're the big two. Then
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: there's another two more power conferences. But how would you
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: describe the Big Ten from what we've seen so far
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: this season?
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: The thing is, all you can do is base it
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: on the results on the field, and the record speaks
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: for itself. Four and ten against power four. SEC went
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: ten and two. Maybe the Big Ten still goes on
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: to win a fourth national championship, but at this moment,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: you can't really look at those two numbers and say, well,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: they're just as strong as the SEC. So it seems
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: a little more top-heavy even than usual, and Oregon is
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: one of the teams that.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: You would– is in.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: That top tier, but had a pretty humbling loss. Now
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: we'll see over the next couple of weeks. Nebraska has
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: a chance to make a statement this week. UCLA has
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: a chance to make a statement going to Oregon. I
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: pointed out that Northwestern actually looks better than probably any
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: of the teams outside of that top group. But it's
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: not that deep, let's be honest.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Northwestern's a good story. 3-1, 1-1 in the conference. Really
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: good story. And it kind of goes to something that
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: we talk about here. I talk about a lot. I'm
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: talking about, I mean, my school's not a power conference school,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: but I'm looking at first-year head coaches. How has the
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: dynamic changed in college football with the transfer portal being
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: as big as it is, NIL being as key as
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: it is along the way? where it used to be
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: you'd hire a new coach, and I just mentioned Jed Fish.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: He's three years in. You hire a new coach. You
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: give him a couple three years. You kind of see
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: how the recruiting looks like. Okay, what's his first class, second, third?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: By the time he gets to year three, he's got
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: his third recruiting class in there. Those guys are maybe
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: redshirt sophomores, maybe true juniors, however it may be, and
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: they're playing. And then you start to judge a coach.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: It feels like that has all changed. And I know
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Cignetti's kind of an outlier what he did, but what
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Bob Chesney's doing at UCLA. And then what Jamarcus Shepard's
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: doing at Oregon State. You go across, Eric Morris at
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, all across the country. Summerall before last week
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: at Florida. How has the dynamic changed in terms of
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: coaches and what the expectations are when they're first hired
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and maybe how short of a leash they're getting in
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: terms of expectations from boosters and alums and so forth.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's truly no patience. You know, Bruce had a
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: story up on The Athletic just today about what's wrong
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: with Michigan, how the offense is a bad fit. Five
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: games into the Kyle Whittingham era, you know, things are
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: pretty dire in Penn State, Arkansas. They're wearing bags on
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: their heads to the games, right?
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: These coaches just started.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: It would be interesting to compare it to, I mean,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Kyle Whittingham got hired pretty late, and he took over
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: for a coach that was a taking time bomb. And
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: in a previous era, maybe that would be a, yeah,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: you know, the first season could be a little rough.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: But he, because there was a five-star quarterback already on hand,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: because they weren't bad last year, they were a 9-14,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: people certainly expected better than this. And then, you know,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: I think Kurt Cignetti raised the bar for everybody, what
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: he was able to do there that first year. But
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: I like that you brought up Jamarcus Shepard. I think
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: that's one of the best stories in college football right
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: now that maybe not a lot of people are aware of.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, Oregon State was awful last year, and they
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: were picked to finish last in the new Pac-12. And
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: even though they started the season with two losses, you
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: could already see they were the big 12 teams.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: They were competitive.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: You could see this team is definitely better. And then
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: it's been, you know, they've been rolling ever since. And
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: suddenly Oregon State fans have something to be excited about. So, again,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: like there are instances where somebody takes over a rebuilding
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: situation and it takes off right away. But now fans
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: expect everybody to be able to do that.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: It's funny. With Jamarcus Shepard last December when Wazoo was
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: looking for a coach, mutual friends, people that know him well,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: and I had talked to some people, and he was
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: very interested in the Washington State job. I ended up
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: going to Kirby more. He gets the Oregon state job.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: And a lot of people were saying, well, Oregon state
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that I don't know about that higher and all that.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: And what he's done now, it helps you have the
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: best freshman wide receiver in the country. That, that probably
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: helps a little bit, but I think what it comes down,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: but you know, one of the things I look at
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: now it's talent evaluation. You know, I think that was,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I think that might've been kind of in Bruce's story too,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: like what Kyle Whittingham's doing and you know, what you did,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: you know, what Michigan did three years ago with Bryce
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Underwood and paying him that money. And, you know, Jed
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: to a certain extent with the money, like, you're trying
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: to identify players not at the age of 18 anymore,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: but also at the age of 20, 21, and playing
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: at lesser competition or other schools. Your more so talent
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: evaluation seems to be one of the biggest keys now
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: in college football for coaches.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: And Jamarcus Shepard had the best talent evaluation of anybody
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: because that freshman receiver, Jesse Legree, was a zero-star recruit
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: who nobody had even given an offer to. And he
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: gets them, you know, he finds them through his contacts
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: and gets them a few days before signing day and
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: the rest is history. But yeah, there's good players everywhere.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: You just have to be, you have to pick the
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: right ones. And Matt Campbell has been kind of a, uh,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: object of mockery for bringing all those Iowa state guys
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: with them. And the idea that like, see now, now
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: you're finding out like the big 10 is a lot
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: tougher than the big 12. Well, you know, Kurt Cignetti
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: did it with James Madison guys. There's good players everywhere,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: but that doesn't necessarily mean there's the, you know, that you, um,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, you've got to, you have to be really
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: good at it.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: You're right.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Like, I think that's one thing I really like about
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: this new era of college football that everybody else complains
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: about is that there is a, it rewards the coaches
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: who are either really good at evaluation or really good
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: at allocating their resources. It's not just the old days
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: of like, you know, who can, who can woo the
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: mom the best and who is, you know, shows up
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: in the living room and closes the deal and Or
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: let's be honest, who maybe has a way to slide
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: some money to the kid under the table?
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I used to always say, you know,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: like when you see, you know, Mike Riley leads an
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Oregon State team to the promised land and has success,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you know, in one of his two stints there. It's
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: because he found guys, talent evaluation under the radar guys,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: like a Legree, who is a zero-star recruit, right? Yeah.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: ends up being a really good player. Mike Price was
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: really good at that back in the day. And the
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: good coaches at some of the schools that find those
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: guys are two and three stars, and then they develop them. But, yeah,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: it's a whole new thing. I want to get to
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: a couple of the games. I mentioned Bob Chesney. UCLA-Oregon
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: this weekend, number 21 versus number 13, if we want
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: to use the numbers. What a massive game that is.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: And I can't remember the last time I thought, wow,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: UCLA is playing a really big football game. But they're
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: playing a really big football game this weekend.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're playing with a chance to make a statement. And,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, they've looked great.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: They've scored 50 points in the last two games. But
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: they're playing Maryland and Purdue. They haven't played, you know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: even the Cal win in the first game that seemed
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: pretty encouraging at the time. You can tell Cal is
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: a mess. So, best opponent they're playing by far so
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: far this season. And, you know, one thing to keep
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: an eye on is– When's the last time Nico won
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: one of these big games? And he's going to go
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: try to do it on the road at Austin. So
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: UCLA is still considered a pretty big underdog. But if
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: they can beat Oregon, that tells me they have a
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: chance to contend for a playoff spot.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: USC-Penn State. It's a bigger game for who and which coach?
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: As Bruce says, a loser leaves town game. You've got
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: to say USC because Matt Campbell is not getting fired
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: anytime soon. Lincoln Riley is definitely playing for his job
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: this season. If they don't win this one, they've got
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: tougher games remaining. Frankly, these are the kind of games
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: he has not won at USC. Penn State is not
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: a ranked team. They don't look great, to be honest.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Everybody makes such a big deal out of the whiteout,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: and the whiteout is great. It's great TV. But other
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: visiting teams have won during the whiteout. It's not impossible
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: to win those games. And so here's their chance.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: The Georgia Bulldogs have not really been tested much this season. Alabama, well,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: we kind of thought they'd be tested last week, and
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: they weren't when it was all said and done. They
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: rolled to a relatively easy win. but Alabama playing host
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to Georgia. You know what, Stuart, it doesn't matter. It
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel like it matters what year, who the coach is,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: what's going on. This is just always one of those
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: circle the calendar, big games in the SEC. What's your
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: feel on this one? Cause that's, this is a heck
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: of a matchup. Number two, Georgia, number six, Alabama. And I,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Kalen DeBoer at four and O feels like he's got
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that thing humming, especially with his quarterback. Yeah, it's a
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: toss up game.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Um, And we've seen Alabama play in more meaningful games
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: than we've seen that they have a phenomenal quarterback. Keelan
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Russell just tore up Mississippi State last week. So I
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: feel really good about that. And Georgia's just kind of
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: been humming along. Curry Smarts teams are never flashy. They
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: just go out there and take care of business. And
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: that's what they've been doing against teams like Arkansas and Vanderbilt.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: And so we're going to learn a lot about Georgia
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: in this game. We're going to learn a lot about
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Georgia's defense because I think Kalen DeBoer now has that
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: kind of offense that you saw him have at Washington
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: with a great quarterback and weapons all around him. Can
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Georgia get a handle on that? Because this is definitely
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: a different... The last two years, the first two years
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: of Kalen DeBoer, they just didn't have it. Even though
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Ty Simpson got drafted where he did, he didn't tear
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: it up at Alabama last year, and they couldn't run
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: the ball at all. This is definitely his most potent
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: offense so far.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I got it. Before I let you go, I got
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: to get your... Oh, actually, one more. Texas and Oklahoma.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma's an interesting story. We've talked about them a lot.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I've got this perverse fascination with them because of Mateer.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: But an Oklahoma win, which would be a massive upset,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: can that kind of flip the script a little bit
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: in Norman? And what would it do to Texas?
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, it could absolutely flip the script in Norman.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: And by the way, there have been crazy upsets. The
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Red Rivers have had quite a few crazy upsets like this.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: where the coach is feeling a lot of heat. And
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: I think somebody brought up 2015, Baker Mayfield was at Oklahoma. Texas,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Charlie Strong was, you know, really much on the hot seat.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: And they were 1-4, and they beat 4-0 Oklahoma. Like,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: crazy things like that happen. Sark, you know, I wouldn't
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: want that for Sark. That would be pretty rough. They've
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: got a lot of tough games remaining. You've got to
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: think that if Oklahoma beats them, that's going to mean
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Arch had a bad game. Continue that narrative. Pretty close
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: to a must-win for the Longhorns.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Real fast, Georgia, Alabama. Weather could be a massive issue, right?
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Just looking down there, I've got relatives in Alabama. That
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: could be pretty significant. Who does it favor? in that
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: game if the weather is bad?
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Who does it favor if the weather is bad? I
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: guess Georgia, because they're less dependent on that kind of stuff.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: It's not going to be good for anybody. I guess
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: the latest is that the hurricane is going to have passed. Yeah,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: the hurricane is going to have passed, but it doesn't
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: mean it won't still be pretty nasty there. So who knows, like,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: you know, who's going to turn over the ball more.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Tuscaloosa's a far enough inland they should be okay.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Final thing, I'm sitting here at Seahawks today, and I
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: remember the many a news conference in the one year
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: with Jim Mora here as the head coach, and then,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: of course, when he was fired, and I remember I
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: said something about it on the air, and Seahawks executive
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: at the time, Todd Laiweke, says, well, you around him,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: you know why we had to get rid of him.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, good point. That's a pretty good point.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: And then I saw the epic classic Jim Mora on
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Saturday night. Play calling duties get taken away from his
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator after two scores. And then the guy walks
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: off the field and quits. Have you ever seen anything
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: like that in college football, Stu? No, not at all.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Not at all.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: You know, Mora's a good coach, but I think obviously
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: his intense personality has hurt him along the way. No,
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: obviously not. And just the press conference. I mean, it's
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: just hilarious. Like he went in there and he said
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: it very succinctly. They asked him, hey, we didn't see
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: Tyson Summers on the sideline.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: He got his play calling taken away. He left the field.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: He's no longer with the program.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: That's all he had to say. And the weird thing
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: is that wasn't even the only coordinator that got demoted
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: the other day. Turns out Cal did the same thing,
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: but that guy didn't quit on the spot.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: No, and Kirby Moore waited to demote his guy until Sunday.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: All right, Stu, great stuff. Appreciate it. As always, thank you.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Tell people about the Audible podcast. It's awesome, and what
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: you guys have going on there.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: The Audible with myself, Bruce Feldman, and Ralph Russo is
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: live on Sundays at 8.30 a.m. Pacific, and then we
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: have shows on Tuesday and Thursday as well.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: You're great. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks, Stuart.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Ian.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Stuart Mandel joining us here on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: More to come, including a daily power play and Corbin
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Smith at Seahawk Headquarters on 93.3 KDRFM. Daily look at.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: The National Hockey League and the Seattle Kraken with Ian Furness.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: The power play.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Stevenson back on the ice. Seattle now down five on four.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: The Golden Knights will tap it in. Tomah Turtle. With
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: the puck on the far goal line, Grubauer in no
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: man's land. Nothing he can do about that. It's a
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: 6-1 Golden Knights lead, and they remain on the power play. Well,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: the good news is they didn't score again.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought that summarized things pretty well.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: The good news is that was their sixth and final goal.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Three in the second put the game away. Kraken lose
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: their first time at home this season, their second home game.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Sixth to the final. Vegas knocks off Seattle. Next up,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Kraken hit the road five straight. On the road, they'll
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: start Friday in Detroit, 3.30. Pre-game, 4 o'clock. Drop of
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: the puck. I put full blame on Mike Benton for
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: last night's performance. I think there's no other way to
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: look at it than Benton really just didn't bring his
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: A game in the pre-game show, and that kind of
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: set the tone, Ash.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, it sure did.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: When Benton's not on his game, it doesn't matter what
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: else is going on. Joey can be great. Team can
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: be playing well. Special teams can be good. If Benton's
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: not good, the game's not going to end well, and
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: it did not end well yesterday. Thomas, oh, Tomosh, Tomosh Hurdle,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: four points, two goals, two assists. Jack Eichel, four points, goal,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: three assists. Victor Olison, before he got hurt, owie, two
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: goals and no assists. Mark Stone, two points, goal and
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: an assist.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I don't like that guy.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Mark Stone, not a fan.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: I don't really have any problems with him. My bigger
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: issue is Eichel because every year I had him in
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: postseason fantasy hockey.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: And he decided to do nothing for me once he
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: got to the postseason. So he can suck it.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: He needed Brett Howden last year who had like 14 goals. Yeah.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: In the postseason and had 10 all year and then
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: had 14 in the postseason.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to pick those people.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: It kind of is. That's why it's fantasy. Oh, we
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: have fantasy football tomorrow, don't we?
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, we sure do.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: It's not going well for me right now. I'm going
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to tell you that right now. It is not going well.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: It is trending dangerously close, trending dangerously close to another
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Ian Naber show.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: I mean, I wouldn't mind being here for that because
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: it was funny when I listened to it last year
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: on my way to Wenatchee.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Well, you'll be here. You'll be there for it. Trust
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: me if it happens. I'm hoping it doesn't. I'm hoping
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: it doesn't, but it's not trending. Second highest score of
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: the week. lose another game. That's how it works.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: That's sucky.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: So those dipsticks may end up finding their way back
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: into the studio. The best part I liked about it, well, A,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't have to do a show for an hour,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: but the part I liked best is when Softie just
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: started railing them. Like cross-talk. You guys want to do
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: cross-talk with Softie? Yeah, that'd be fun. I'm like, okay.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: We'll see. We'll see how much fun it is. We'll
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: see how much fun it is. Alright, that's our Daily
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Power Play brought to you by Esquire Honda Kubota. Let's
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: do this. 49451, that is the Tacoma Dodge text line. Ashley,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: we're doing our thing again, right, with the music today?
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Okay. So text in your thoughts on the 49ers and
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: John Lunt.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: John Lunt, too. That's 49451. Keep it clean because we
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: can't edit these. If you put swear words in it,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: we won't.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you just won't be a part of it.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, but we're going to put together another musical piece
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: for you for text coming up. At 2.30 today. And
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: then I'll have a pick for Factor Fiction at 2.35.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Your chance to win a $ 1, 000 weekly prize. $ 10, 000 grand prize.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: When we come back, Corbin Smith is going to sit down.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: We just were out there a couple minutes ago watching
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: the first two minutes of practice before they kick us
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: off the field. So we'll have the latest on what
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: we saw out there. But more importantly, actually we can't
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: talk about that until after practice. Okay, we'll talk about
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: what Mike McDonald had to say today. There you go.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: And what's happening as far as the Seahawks. I know this.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: He's got a lot of thoughts on the new running back.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: They just picked up off the Commander's practice squad, so
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about that with Corbin Smith, and we'll see
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Spectrum coming up next.