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California’s Nuclear Exit | President Trump's Secret Flight · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 3: Six forty Bill Handle here, and a good morning. It
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  Speaker 3: is a Monday morning, August seventeenth. A couple of things
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  Speaker 3: that I just want to note before we get into
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  Speaker 3: the nuclear power plants here in California. On the story
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  Speaker 2: makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: that one.
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  Speaker 2: Handle.
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  Speaker 3: You're just such a cheap shot on that one. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I am, okay, Now sorry. Something I've been talking about
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  Speaker 3: and been pitching for a very long time, and that
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  Speaker 3: is I'm very much in favor of nuclear power, and
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  Speaker 3: not so much the kind of power that you can
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  Speaker 3: blow cities up, although that's pretty neat too, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: talking about civilian use of nuclear power to generate electric
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  Speaker 3: And it used to be that the environmentalists were so
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  Speaker 3: totally against nuclear power. I mean, that was one of
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  Speaker 3: the big issues. The demonstrations would go crazy, no nukes.
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  Speaker 3: Look was happening because of the fear of the meltdown
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  Speaker 3: and radiation being leaked, And it has happened.
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  Speaker 2: We know about Chernobyl. That was crazy making.
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  Speaker 3: That was the worst disaster in nuclear power plants that
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  Speaker 3: has ever been.
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  Speaker 2: And then we had.
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  Speaker 3: Fukushima, Fukusheima, not Fakushima, whatever, Fukushima in Japan, where radiation
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  Speaker 3: was released also three Mile Island was very close. There
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  Speaker 3: was a meltdown happening, but the radiation that was released
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  Speaker 3: was fairly minimal. But when they go when nuclear power
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  Speaker 3: plants go south, man, do they go south? And the
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  Speaker 3: fear was, Okay, we don't want nukes because a couple
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  Speaker 3: of reasons, because of the fear of radioactive radioactive leakage,
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  Speaker 3: which causes unbelievable damage. You look at Chernobyl, the town
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  Speaker 3: of Chernobyl, it is still a ghost town. I mean
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  Speaker 3: miles and miles surrounded by all kinds of fencing. You
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  Speaker 3: can't go in there, although there are tours being taken
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  Speaker 3: in there, sort of black market tours where you sneak
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  Speaker 3: in through the fence and everybody has a Geiger counter.
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  Speaker 2: But the place is dead. It's dead.
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  Speaker 3: The town is gone, surrounding areas are gone. And so
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  Speaker 3: that was one problem, the dangers of radiation. And the
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  Speaker 3: other one is what do you do with a nuclear
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  Speaker 3: waste because there's tons of nuclear waste that is produced
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  Speaker 3: when the nukes are being utilized. You know, when those
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  Speaker 3: reactors are being run, and at this point we don't
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  Speaker 3: know what to do with them other than put them
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  Speaker 3: in these concrete casing or put them in basically fifty
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  Speaker 3: five gallon tins that are then the barrels that are
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  Speaker 3: then rounded by concrete, which are pretty good. And then
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  Speaker 3: some of them sunk in the ocean and some them
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  Speaker 3: put in underground vaults like old salt mines, that sort
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  Speaker 3: of thing. And we haven't yet figured out a way
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  Speaker 3: of how to deal with this nuclear waste. So those
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  Speaker 3: are the two big issues. So now environmentalists are some
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  Speaker 3: in favor, some not. There actually have been some who
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  Speaker 3: have turned to the dark side. And what does that mean. Well,
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  Speaker 3: one of the things about nuclear energy, these plants, these
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  Speaker 3: nuclear power plants have a tiny little footprint relative to
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  Speaker 3: other power plants, and there's zero emissions, zero other than
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  Speaker 3: radioactivity if it leaks, and the waste that is then
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  Speaker 3: secured and then put someplace as I just described. And
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  Speaker 3: the philosophy is that by the time these things become dangerous,
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  Speaker 3: by the time there really is a danger with this
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  Speaker 3: nuclear waste, we will have the technologology to deal with
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  Speaker 3: it nuclear fusion, if I'm not mistaken, nut fission. And
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  Speaker 3: so they're working on ways of dealing with this waste.
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  Speaker 3: So a lot of controversy and I'll tell you what's
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  Speaker 3: going on. We effectively were to shut down nuclear facilities.
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  Speaker 3: There has not been a nuclear power plant built in
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  Speaker 3: the United States in what thirty five years, And there
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  Speaker 3: are power plants that have been decommissioned, and these provide
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  Speaker 3: so much electricity that is no small deal when they're
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  Speaker 3: taken offline. Oh, before we go, on, Neil, a little
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  Speaker 3: Right, back we go, and this is all about nuclear
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  Speaker 3: power here in California. Big change afoot and that is
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  Speaker 3: the move towards shutting down nuclear plants, and that's been
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  Speaker 3: going at a pretty rapid pace across the country.
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  Speaker 2: Well, things have changed. The demand for.
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  Speaker 3: Electricity has exploded after about a decade of sort of
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  Speaker 3: flat use.
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  Speaker 2: And it has to do with a few things.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the big one is AI the amount of
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  Speaker 3: energy these data centers use is just astronomical. Also, the
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  Speaker 3: electric the electrical the electric electrification of in certain name
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  Speaker 3: of anything here, cars for example, and just other energy
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  Speaker 3: use buildings. We're building more, even though the buildings themselves
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  Speaker 3: are becoming certainly energy friendly, but still the amount of
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  Speaker 3: building is beyond the limited use of electricity. So for
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  Speaker 3: all these reasons, electricity is desperately needed, and nuclear power
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  Speaker 3: plants provide a lot of that. I didn't know this,
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  Speaker 3: but California gets nine percent of the entire energy used
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  Speaker 3: from nukes here in California.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's a lot. By the way, you go
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  Speaker 2: to France, it's seventy five.
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  Speaker 3: Percent of nuclear power nuke of power comes from the
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  Speaker 3: nukes in France. So things have changed. We now are
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  Speaker 3: looking at recommissioning or extending the life of nuclear plants,
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  Speaker 3: and one of them is I think the one in
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  Speaker 3: Santa No Free and correct me on this one, because
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  Speaker 3: this is memory and that is one of the two reactors.
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  Speaker 2: There were two, the big breasts.
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  Speaker 3: One of the breasts they had a partial messtectomy where
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  Speaker 3: they decommissioned one because there was an issue about piping.
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  Speaker 3: In a lawsuit with Mitsubishi, that provided the pipes and
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  Speaker 3: that had to be redone. So I think one of
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  Speaker 3: them is still working and they're going to bring both
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  Speaker 3: of them online, and they are extending power plants now.
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  Speaker 3: To build a nuclear power plant is no small deal.
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  Speaker 3: It's ten years or longer to get the licensing to
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  Speaker 3: build it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it is crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I can't think of anything else that's more extensive and
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  Speaker 3: more difficult to build. But the amount of power that
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  Speaker 3: they produce is incredible and it is consistent because if
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  Speaker 3: you look at wind power, if you look at solar power,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, those are great ways of producing energy with
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  Speaker 3: zero emissions, zero burning of fossil fuels when it's burnt,
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  Speaker 3: when it's used in power plants. There's two kinds of
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  Speaker 3: energy that you don't run out of that are there
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  Speaker 3: twenty four to seven one power plants that use a
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  Speaker 3: huge amount of fossil fuels read natural gas here in
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  Speaker 3: southern California and in some cases coal across the country,
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  Speaker 3: and the other one is nukes. Other than that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes the wind doesn't blow, you know, sometimes the sun
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  Speaker 3: don't shine where oh, I don't know, it's a rainy day,
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  Speaker 3: for example, or in various areas of the world. It's
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  Speaker 3: rain three hundred and fifty days a year, and you
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  Speaker 3: have wind power. You also have now they're using power
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  Speaker 3: off the oceans wave power, they're not available twenty four
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  Speaker 3: to seven. And therein lies the rub and that's why
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  Speaker 3: nuclear power makes so much sense. It is consistent. There
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  Speaker 3: are no emissions, and of course the risk is of
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  Speaker 3: the containment buildings being breached or the nuclear plants themselves,
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  Speaker 3: and we've had it. We've had a few big accidents
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  Speaker 3: and they're pretty dangerous. As I said, the big one
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  Speaker 3: is Chernobyl. I mean that one was just devastating, astronomical
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  Speaker 3: and there was radiation that went across Europe with.
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  Speaker 2: That, So what cost that?
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  Speaker 3: By the way, there was a meltdown A meltdown, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was a whole bunch of accident. It's one of
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  Speaker 3: those where this happened, and then this happened, and then
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  Speaker 3: a B, C, D and E, any one of which
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  Speaker 3: if it had not happened, you would not have seen
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  Speaker 3: it happen. And what happens is when they have to
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  Speaker 3: have enormous amounts of water to cool down the reactor.
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  Speaker 3: I mean incredible amounts of water that has to circulate through,
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  Speaker 3: and they were doing some testing and a valve had
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  Speaker 3: been turned off. The water had been turned off, and
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  Speaker 3: they were testing it and the valve was defective where
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  Speaker 3: the valve didn't work, and then they tested the valve
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  Speaker 3: and that didn't work, and then there was override system
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  Speaker 3: and that didn't work, and one of the operators who
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  Speaker 3: was supposed to be there, who was overseeing the testing, said,
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  Speaker 3: we don't need to test. He left and went to sleep,
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  Speaker 3: and it all happened, and it blew up. I mean
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  Speaker 3: it blew up, and there was no containment building. If
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  Speaker 3: you look at nuclear power plants around the world, there's
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  Speaker 3: these huge concrete buildings. Those are containment vessels. As something
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  Speaker 3: goes wrong, the radiation is kept within those Chernobyl. Russian
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  Speaker 3: plants don't have that. The Russian technology is not particularly good.
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  Speaker 2: They are down.
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  Speaker 3: This is what they do. They're down and dirty and
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  Speaker 3: let's get it fast. That's the way it works in Russia,
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  Speaker 3: or it used to the way. That were the way it
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  Speaker 3: works in Russia. So they're coming back and in California,
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  Speaker 3: what does the governor do.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he sort of let them.
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  Speaker 3: Let the next administration deal with this, and so there's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of controversy here. I think they're
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  Speaker 3: coming back. You know, we were on our way back.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, power plants were on the books, applications have
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  Speaker 3: been filed, and then Fukushema happened, and that just shut
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  Speaker 3: down nuclear power construction across the world.
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  Speaker 2: Old because that one was horrific.
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  Speaker 3: Still, it's like a to a lesser degree, Fukushima is
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  Speaker 3: basically Chernobyl and that had to do with flooding because
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  Speaker 3: of the tsunami that overran any of the defenses. Fukushima
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  Speaker 3: had some good defenses. I mean they had they had
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  Speaker 3: what do you call it, sea breaks where the waves
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  Speaker 3: would not come in, not even close enough, so natural
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  Speaker 3: natural disasters. At this point, they're gonna have to build
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  Speaker 3: those now into power plants. So we're still a ways away,
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  Speaker 3: but power nuclear power is coming back as it should.
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  Speaker 3: Oh and in order to buy law make us zero
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  Speaker 3: use of emissions in California for power, zero use of
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  Speaker 3: fossil fuel. The only way we're going to be able
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  Speaker 3: to do it is with nuclear power as well as
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  Speaker 3: alternative energy. Okay, moving on the secret, super duper secret
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  Speaker 3: flight out of Ankra, Turkey, the President was on was
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  Speaker 3: there for a summit. He flew New Air Force one
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  Speaker 3: to Ankra, but he didn't fly Air Force one back.
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  Speaker 3: The new Air Force one for a couple of reasons.
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  Speaker 3: One because we had heard the Secret Service was not
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  Speaker 3: happy with a security on the airplane didn't have the
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  Speaker 3: same defense mechanisms that Air Force one, the real one,
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  Speaker 3: the old one had. And so that was the reason,
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  Speaker 3: we later find out is because there was a credible
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  Speaker 3: threat against the president involving a shoulder fired missile service
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  Speaker 3: to air missile, one of those stinger kind of missiles
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  Speaker 3: that can bring down an airplane, especially taking off and
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  Speaker 3: landing or even going up to several thousand feet on
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  Speaker 3: the way up on the way down. And based on
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  Speaker 3: that evidence, based on that information, that intelligence, what they
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  Speaker 3: had had the President do was get on the new airplane,
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  Speaker 3: Get off the new airplane on one of those food containers,
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  Speaker 3: you know those that brought that brings those big containers
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  Speaker 3: down in the truck on that elevator thing, and then
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  Speaker 3: drive off. He was in there, can't imagine he was
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  Speaker 3: scrunched up or whatever. And then off he went secretly,
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  Speaker 3: and then he was taken to the old Air Force one,
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  Speaker 3: which he then flew to London and then flew back,
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  Speaker 3: and he had said there was all kinds of reasons
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  Speaker 3: being given that he the reason he didn't go on
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  Speaker 3: the new air Force one, he sent it to England
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  Speaker 3: empty so the Armed services American service people could see
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  Speaker 3: the new airplane. I mean, that's the lamest excuse they've
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  Speaker 3: ever heard by life. But in reality, it was because
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  Speaker 3: of that credible threat, and a big deal was made
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  Speaker 3: of that. Oh and this is the press. You should
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  Speaker 3: have told us, we should have known. This should be transparency. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there was a credible threat against the president. Now, interestingly enough,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of his staff did knew. The didn't know,
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  Speaker 3: the press didn't know that was on the airplane. I
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  Speaker 3: mean maybe three four people that were on the plane
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  Speaker 3: did know. And if there was a shoulder fired missile
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  Speaker 3: that took the plane down, hey, as long as the
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  Speaker 3: president lives, you know, it doesn't matter who else dies,
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  Speaker 3: which actually is true as far as a secret service
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  Speaker 3: is concerned. Certainly in terms of the presidential detail, man,
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  Speaker 3: it's everything, and no matter what happens, the president has
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  Speaker 3: to be protected. I mean that's the way it works,
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  Speaker 3: that's the way it should work. And so asking for
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  Speaker 3: transparency under those circumstances is stupid, is just dumb. The
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  Speaker 3: administration handled it perfectly well as the way it should
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  Speaker 3: because of the threat. So now people are comparing the
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  Speaker 3: way Trump flies around and is protected because to do
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  Speaker 3: this is I can't even imagine last time they did
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  Speaker 3: this where they took this secret sort of false narrative
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  Speaker 3: in terms of where he's going, what he was on
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  Speaker 3: it's and the kind of protection that he has. Now
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  Speaker 3: the comparison is being made now to Putin and to
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  Speaker 3: another extent, to Kim Jong un. And that is and
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  Speaker 3: we're told and this interview was done by a Putin
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  Speaker 3: expert saying, if you think what they did for President
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  Speaker 3: Trump has an issue, you should see what kind of
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  Speaker 3: security measures and how Putin operates.
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  Speaker 2: Man, it's on a whole different planet.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to come back with that one because that
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  Speaker 3: is just fun and I love aviation, and I'll compare it.
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  Speaker 3: Why it has to do with trains, that's one. The
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  Speaker 3: comparison to Queen Elizabeth or King Charles now has to
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  Speaker 3: do with the way FDR traveled. So and many world
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  Speaker 3: leaders do exactly this, but there's a difference. And then
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  Speaker 3: the comparison was made to Putin, and we are being
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  Speaker 3: told this was a story in the New York Times
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  Speaker 3: that Putin that the what happened with the President is
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  Speaker 3: child's play comparison.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on with Putin?
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  Speaker 3: Putin has identical offices in several places. So when he
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  Speaker 3: gives a speech, a televised speech from his office, it's
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  Speaker 3: that version of the oval office.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know which one he's at, You have no idea, and.
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  Speaker 3: You don't know what time he does it because it's
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  Speaker 3: basically broadcast days later, and so reporters are trying to
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  Speaker 3: figure out which one he is at. And by the
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  Speaker 3: leaves that are wilting in the office, let's take a look.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that leaf is wilted versus the last one we
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  Speaker 3: saw versus Oh no, he can't be there. And these
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  Speaker 3: little bits of minutia, because that Putin is paranoid.
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  Speaker 2: It's that simple.
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  Speaker 3: He drives around, or he moves around the country in
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  Speaker 3: this armored train, and I mean an armored train that's
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  Speaker 3: painted to look like a regular train, and it is
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  Speaker 3: has a spa in it and offices. I mean, these
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  Speaker 3: guys travel around in really high end transportation. And Kim
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  Speaker 3: Jong Unn has an armored train. Now FDR drove around
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  Speaker 3: or he was taking the places in a train, his
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  Speaker 3: own train, his own cars at least.
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  Speaker 2: But the press knew about it. There was no secrecy here.
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  Speaker 3: Same thing with Harry Truman, who did his whistle stop
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  Speaker 3: tour to win his second term, but the press knew
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  Speaker 3: about it. Kim Jong un the press doesn't know about
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  Speaker 3: So it's a question of secrecy. It's a question of
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  Speaker 3: making sure the public doesn't know. For security reasons. Putin
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  Speaker 3: is so paranoid. He's because of the war in Ukraine
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  Speaker 3: and the drones are flying all over Russia can reach Moscow.
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  Speaker 3: And since COVID, he's just gone even more nuts. For example,
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  Speaker 3: when he had meetings with any officials, they had to
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  Speaker 3: be quarantined for two weeks before he would talk to them.
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  Speaker 3: So here is his cabinet member, let's say a defense
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  Speaker 3: minister or an economic minister. You have an appointment with
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  Speaker 3: the president, Yeah, you're going to be quarantined for two
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  Speaker 3: weeks before you even get to see him. And so
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  Speaker 3: it is. These presidential trains are really kind of neat.
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  Speaker 3: Also with Putin, there are secret tracks and spurs that
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  Speaker 3: go to at least three of his residences. He has
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  Speaker 3: residences all over Russia. He has residences. We know he
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  Speaker 3: has residents in Soshi, which is a port a tourist
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  Speaker 3: which is a tourist city, certainly Moscow, other cities that
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  Speaker 3: I think odess say he has one and it's just
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  Speaker 3: super secret stuff. So it's a question of paranoia. So
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  Speaker 3: the paranoia level, which I really enjoy. I think that
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  Speaker 3: the two top ones are Kim Jong un and the
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  Speaker 3: President of Russia and then everybody else sort of you know,
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  Speaker 3: there may be armored facilities. I don't know if if
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  Speaker 3: the president far president travels in on a train, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think he ever has. And the other thing about
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  Speaker 3: Kim Jong Lun, he travels on his armored train because
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  Speaker 3: he won't fly. He just he won't get on an
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  Speaker 3: airplane a lot like John Madden. So when Kim Jong
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  Speaker 3: un goes to either do a sports broadcast or when
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  Speaker 3: he was on the team, was when he was coach,
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  Speaker 3: he pulled a Kim Jong Un.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why it works. Okay, we're done.
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  Speaker 3: How's that for an analogy, right, John Madden and Kim
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  Speaker 3: Jong Un and Prutin.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that worked, that worked all right?
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  Speaker 3: Coming up the US Department of Agriculture, the USDA oh
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  Speaker 3: Man changes are a foot big time. I'll share that
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