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Dan Morgan made ALL the right decisions for the Carolina Panthers! · C3 Panthers Podcast: Carolina Panthers

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  [UNKNOWN]: did Dan Morgan make all the right decisions for the Carolina Panthers.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He parted ways with Chandler Savala and Trevor Wallace and they decided to keep Haines King.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Bobby Okareki Okaree and Darren Walker have new numbers that were previously held by Panthers Legends.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And did you know that bootleg football says work great at one thing, playing bad football?
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  [UNKNOWN]: You're gonna, we're gonna check it all out tonight on the C3 Panthers podcast.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Tell you, darling, and not to it, but to do it, brother.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Let's row.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You don't work with me.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We're here online on Panthers fans.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Having social distancing.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers lose opinions.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Only one podcast.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's the same dream and it's my guess.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Wow, wow, wow!
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  [UNKNOWN]: Welcome to the C3 Panthers podcast sponsored by my bookie.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's right, we got some big developing story lines when it comes to this podcast, but more importantly, the Carolina Panthers have made their official cuts to the 53 man roster from 90 to 53.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The code cuts have been made throughout the league, but Dan Morgan,
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  [UNKNOWN]: was not standing still with just this roster, making trades, adding players, adding depth, and trying to interestingly, continue to work on this defense.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We've got all the latest news from the fan perspective.
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  [UNKNOWN]: My name is Tony Dunn, and that's my Wheelman Cody Lack.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Tony Dunn.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You already know there's no way I'd rather be on the Tuesday night than to hear him up boys talk and panther of football.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Tony, okay, we got some very candid news and information from both Dan Morgan and Dave Canales on the bunch of the different moves that were made.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Why they bought in Bobby Ocariki?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Why they're carrying five tight ends?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Why they're carrying three quarterbacks?
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  [UNKNOWN]: And what the future means for Hans King.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Tony Dunn, we have one hell of a show for the viewers tonight.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And you know, we're not going to do this without the best damn Panther fans.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And all of YouTube, you know, we got Justin, the building.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The loud pack of Luke, John B. Jenkins, Kristen Butler, Tony Donn, and untoer but to do a brother, let's roll.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, 50, 98.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's two, five, two, two, two, eight, 50, 98.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We're gonna get your calls, your thoughts and your opinions on this roster.
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  [UNKNOWN]: How Carolina is building this team, potentially for success and what you think about some of these cuts in some of these additions.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you for your time, energy, and attention.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Football is back week zero of college football hit.
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  [UNKNOWN]: My son, who's at NC State right now went to go see his Wolfpack play, the Virginia Cavaliers, and they got smoked.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They got smoked, but guess what?
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  [UNKNOWN]: We've got more football in store, college football abounds, but the pro football game that we love, the Carolina Panthers, are just weeks away from playing.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You're going to open up against the Chicago Bears, a tough schedule ahead.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Head.
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  [UNKNOWN]: How will they fare?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Are they prepared?
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  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to be here for you all season long and we know you're here for us.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
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  [UNKNOWN]: CK, the man with the golden pipes, the master would work or how are you doing my friend?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, man, I'm not here.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Living dreams, as they say, man, just happy to talk about some real panther football, right?
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  [UNKNOWN]: You know, for the past month, it's been, what will the panthers be?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Now we know who they will be going into the season.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And it'll be good to be able to look in, maybe read between the lines of what this roster looks like.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I'll be interested to see the conversation back here with my popcorn as you and Cody go out at about Haines King.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Oh boy, I do we go after it and I owe Cody five bucks.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It will be included in his PayPal.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It will be in your PayPal before you know it, Cody.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I am a man of integrity and you out did me on where this roster addition how it would be made.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and we've been, we had a great discussion and, um, Sunday when we did our impromptu about the 53-man roster and, and that Heinz King made it now, because he has a roster spot.
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  [UNKNOWN]: What do you do with them?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Do you just sit them there and try to work and develop them?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Or do you try to integrate him somehow?
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I know that you put a post up on X.
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  [UNKNOWN]: and right away, everybody's probably like, oh, Cody wants them to be quarterback, but they can't see that we may be looking for some ideas of packages, roles, taste them, hill roles, some different things.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We've got all of that and so much more for you tonight on the C3 Panthers podcast, Cody's tonight's show, Dan Morgan made all the right decisions for the Carolina Panthers.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You put exclamation mark when I opened the show, I asked a question, did Dan,
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  [UNKNOWN]: the man make all the right decisions.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Take us into tonight podcast.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, man.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So listen, there is obviously a lot that we have to talk about.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And you know, the reason I titled the show, what I did Tony was because when we were talking about who was going to make the 53 and we were breaking down the wide receiver room and the
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  [UNKNOWN]: There were a lot of players that we really wanted to make this roster.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So not only did the 53 man surprise us, but there was a bunch of players that we were really disappointed.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Didn't make that 53.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Just seen Reed, Cam Hill, Isaiah Simmons, and Tony.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm here to tell you.
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  [UNKNOWN]: that we have absolutely all of those guys back on the practice squad.
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  [UNKNOWN]: There's still one this team and we have an opportunity to be big time in our practice squad and having a bunch of guys that can step right up.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to get into all that later but first let's jump into everybody's favorite topic of the night brand new numbers because two new free agent
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  [UNKNOWN]: has some very famous legendary numbers, according to Panther fandom, about Bobby Ocaricke, wearing number 58, Bobby Ocaricke took the practice field for the first time Tuesday.
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  [UNKNOWN]: After general manager said the intention was for him to start next to David Lloyd, and that's how they lined up for the first defense and the period of practice open to the media.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They gave the third year old Ocarikia helmet with the receiver and practice so he could familiarize himself with the language But he said he was under noble illusion that he'd be calling in place.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's the Lord's job He said no, I've been telling Devon since I got here.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's your show Ocarikia said I'm here to support him any way I can so I'm just excited to play wherever they've got me
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  [UNKNOWN]: And Tony, you know, he's wearing Thomas Davis' number.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He's all sensibly wearing the same position or playing the same position.
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  [UNKNOWN]: As Thomas Davis, just in a three, four, and I liked that there's no guessing to this.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Bobby Ocariki was broadened to be a starting linebacker for the Carolina Panthers, and now him and Devon Lloyd are that one-two tandem in the center of our defense.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthership, you know, look, they knew that this linebacker group had been a problem stick around later to find out just how difficult this Panthers team played last year.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The schedule they played and their performance and how they thread the needle to get those eight wins.
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  [UNKNOWN]: This defense, while they went out and made the big acquisition of Devon Lloyd, they also added Jalen Phillips and they addressed some of the big time problems of last year.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That linebacker group felt incomplete.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We knew it from the beginning.
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  [UNKNOWN]: that Trevor Wallace, maybe not maybe was did not seem ready to take on a role where they were comfortable because the Carolina Panthers have to be able to have linebackers that can support the run, but also our effective and past coverage.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We talked about this is that we did not feel that the Carolina Panthers were done making moves that they were just going to
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  [UNKNOWN]: trim the roster and find out who they had that was best.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But we knew that there was going to be some sort of splash Bobby okay, okay, I think is okay, okay, okay, Bobby okay, okay,
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  [UNKNOWN]: is a big time name it feels like for the Carolina Panthers.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe not big time if you're just sitting there looking around like, oh, you got a top free agent because he's been sitting there the whole time, but a top a big name or an experience player that really can ultimately or immediately make your team better.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Bobby, a caracay, why do you think I'll ask you guys this?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Well, Tony, to be honest, I kind of think of as one of those scenarios where he was waiting to see what team needed him to avoid having to go through a training camp, like, I was wondering if you were to stay.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Then he's kind of guy that knows that he's coming in to be a starter, forget all the potential going through, preseason and all of that, let's just jump in, the one thing that you don't
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  [UNKNOWN]: Tony, I wanted to play Dan Morgan, and what he had to say on about Bobby and the signing.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's kind of a little bit on how the whole vocabulary thing like down.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You have that you'll come together with me.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, we kept in contact with his agent all through the summer time all the way leading up to, you know, when we signed him here, you know, a couple days ago.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So he's a guy, he's a veteran guy that
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  [UNKNOWN]: He's been productive in this league.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He's super smart, high football like you, really fits what we do schematically on the defense aside.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So putting ahead next to Devon Lloyd, we felt we're too big, long, uh, rangey guys that can cover, they can blitz, they can do a lot of things.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Um, so we felt like he was really good fit for what we do.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So they'd like them, they'd like them to be able to bliss with them if you're strong against the run.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And overall, this was just a move that bolsters our defense in a real big way and I love the signing.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I love it when we made it, I love it even more now.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I can play some clips of his in a minute.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He seemed very excited.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He seemed very excited to be here and on the team.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I think this is just a great opportunity no matter what.
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  [UNKNOWN]: pull that down so I can put my clip up from for Dave Canales.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Let me see how do we get it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, Dave Canales, one of the things this was Mike Kay that asked this is interesting and X and O conversation right here, about what other team teams offenses are doing
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  [UNKNOWN]: that potentially not only the Carolina Panthers face, but we're talking about like the L.A. Rams, we're talking about the Chicago Bears right out the gate and what other teams are doing and how we're trying to pad our defense in this process, make sure the volume's up, let's see.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Here's how much did you guys look into kind of the growth of that 13 personnel package in all teams
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  [UNKNOWN]: What if you can make a song?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, gosh, of course we're going to get an ad.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Let's start with the drums.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you, you, too.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I got to just spring for the premium.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, I mean, some opponents got studies.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You know, the Rams did a great job utilizing 13 personnel in the run game and the past game.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Having those versatile type of tight-ends who are rugged enough to play in the box, but that can also stretch the field is huge.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The Bears have done a fantastic job that way, also making 13 looked like 12.
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  [UNKNOWN]: look like 11.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And then bringing it all back in and having some core runs and play action.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So something we certainly have to work on.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And definitely, you know, having having that profile of athlete in the inside lineback or position, be able to match up some of those guys that they have is valuable.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So what I like about this comment right here.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Question.
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  [UNKNOWN]: is how to these immediate acquisitions in a sense.
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  [UNKNOWN]: How are you adjusting for what maybe not only did you struggle with last year, but also what you're going to face immensely this year?
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  [UNKNOWN]: If we remember at the end, as the Carolina Panthers battled specifically, or battled the Rams in the playoffs, one a crazy, wonderful, beautiful throw
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  [UNKNOWN]: heart breaking to us, but a great throw in catch was from at Stafford to a tie-in deep down the field.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And you're trying to sit here and you're going against two teams that you're going to have to play regardless this year.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The bears and the rams who are great at this 13 package.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Now, if we think about what the 13 package is, is you're running three tight ends.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Right, and you're running one receiver, but you're using those tight ends as receivers.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Now in historically, you've used this kind of in a run heavy defenses, but it feels like there's a lot of changes that have been made to use this to make a more an explosive big passing offense as well.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Sean McVay loves using tight end movement.
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  [UNKNOWN]: a test linebackers eyes when LA goes heavy, they fake power runs and drag linebackers linebackers into the line of scrimmage.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They open up bootlegs, high load crossers.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Carolina is trying it seems like by adding Bobby Ocaricay, but more importantly, him beside Devon Lloyd to try to combat some of these difficulties.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Chicago does this.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They like to bully teams with front sevens by lining up 13 personnel and smashing sea gaps, forcing nickel, nickel secondary plays to play tight in heavy and running backs in space.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Carolina knew that this was a weakness, not only where have we been trying to adjust for trying to kind of diminish a team's ability to run against us, but our
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I feel like not only by adding, I mean, obviously, Devon Lloyds the big name, okay, okay, all of a sudden makes this group significantly better.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But there's another name, Tyrell Dodson or Tyrell?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Tyrell Dodson just picked him up as well.
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  [UNKNOWN]: practice squatted though, but this guy, he excels in some cover drops.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He has great gap discipline.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Carolina is interested.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They were not sitting around sleeping on this linebacker room and saying, let's make it work.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And this was not just, oh, let's get Jocie Jewel and try to see if we can make it happen.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like Carolina attacked this.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And Dan Morgan has shown he's willing to attack
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  [UNKNOWN]: Absolutely, and Tony Tan last year we had Christian Rosebone and Trevor Wallace as our starting linebackers.
• 17:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, okay, this has been, you know, easily the weakest part of our defense for the past three years in a row now.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So now to have two guys who are going to prove it themselves to be really good players and to be very scheme versatile.
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  [UNKNOWN]: This is such a boom, you know, boom to our defense.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I really love all the different potential avenues that it opens up for us to be versatile.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm really excited about it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think Indian these guys are really going to pay dividends on this offense and telling you things
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  [UNKNOWN]: but I'm calling my shot.
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  [UNKNOWN]: This front seven has top five in the NFL potential.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I've really do believe this now more than ever and I don't believe I'm just being a Homer.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I believe it's based on the person that I am looking at.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Can you say tapped in?
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  [UNKNOWN]: No.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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  [UNKNOWN]: All right, here's what I'll ask Cody.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We'll offer some grace to Tony.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Would you guarantee it'll be a top 10, but with the potential to be a top five?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, the only thing guaranteed is death and taxes.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, so there's nothing I can guarantee what I am saying is when I look at this defensive front seven from top to bottom The guys that we have on our defensive line the guys that we have in the middleboard defense
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  [UNKNOWN]: There's nothing that we should not theoretically be able to do.
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  [UNKNOWN]: If we don't evolve stopping the run, we have the guys to do it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: sideline the sideline, we have the guys to do it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Getting after the quarterback, we have the guys to do it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: blitzing our opponents.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We have the guys to do it covering big body titans that they might put in the slot.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We have the guys to do it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I did not feel that previous years, even the past two or three years and especially going into 2021 in 0 of arrow.
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  [UNKNOWN]: and his defense have no more excuses for not being on one of the very best indeed NFL, especially since it comes from that famed Vick fan geo tree of coaching.
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  [UNKNOWN]: There's no reason why we shouldn't be in the highest of echelons when it comes to defensive front 7s.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Would you feel here's where I think if I'm looking at the front 7,
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  [UNKNOWN]: Historically, when you look at the Panthers historic front sevens that have been like the top tier, we didn't have just one ad rusher.
• 19:52
  [UNKNOWN]: We had two ad rusher and we had really good, you know, middle pieces beyond just one player.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Right now I think we look at Derek Brown and he's really the only one that you know for fact as the star.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Um, whereas like I look at the 2015 where you had Thomas Davis, Luke, you had Charles Johnson, you had, uh, Starla Tulale, you had, um, K K K K one, short, um, who's on the other side of a Charles, or Jared Allen, um, I mean, you had, you had a defense that was, you know, just big all the way around.
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  [UNKNOWN]: really important, you know, part to having a top 10 front 7.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't know, I'm hopeful princely can be that, but I don't know that he is.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I would feel a lot better about that statement if we made another move for the opposite side of Jalen Phillips.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We have Patrick, Patrick, Patrick Jones, Patrick Jones the second.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So, by the way, thank you, Patrick.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Patrick.
• 21:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Just to show their graphic that they put up.
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  [UNKNOWN]: This is our Panthers starting line-up, and this is one of these, right?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, it has both sides of it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, also, when I look at that defensive interior, I'm not even just counting the guys that we have right there.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm also counting the guys that we have as depth pieces.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, so Cam Jackson is there.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He had a really good, uh, preseason.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Even if you don't know a lot about that guy, you also have Lee Hunter, a second round pit.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You have Bobby Brown.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, Tejra and words I believe his name is.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Tejra.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Tejra.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's Tejra.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I thought it was too easy.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think there's a sea in it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's Tejra.
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  [UNKNOWN]: OK. Well, Tejra, it is a beast.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Right, so you tried to add, you're kind of trying to make up for what you lost with a Turk Morton there, right?
• 22:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, Cody, let's, well, we're not going to just spend, we'll come back to this when we need to, but that here's the one thing is like where I think you might be overly ambitious.
• 22:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 22:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's interesting that the Carolina Panthers have spent so much equity or in a sense to try to strengthen the defense.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, like is if I mean, we've heard C. K. How long did we have to hear how.
• 22:40
  [UNKNOWN]: crazy like how good this defense was and how they held teams and all of this well why is it that the Carolina Panthers have expended so many or so much effort on this defense pull that graphic right back up though of the start line up here's the one reason where I just won't
• 22:57
  [UNKNOWN]: go out here and say like oh they're going to be a top five defense.
• 23:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like they have hopefully if everything goes right the potential to be a top 10 defense.
• 23:09
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm sorry, is that defensive front right there?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Is not
• 23:15
  [UNKNOWN]: you can't it can't just be jail of Philips bringing pressure.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It can't just be you just say all right we got Derek Brown he's amazing you're putting a lot of hope on a rookie and Jackson you're putting a lot of
• 23:36
  [UNKNOWN]: not excuse me, uh, not Jeley Hunter.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think you mentioned Lee Hunter.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't more.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Cam Jackson was on second.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So I mean, but like, I mean, you've, you're you're sitting here saying Lee Hunter is the difference maker more than Cam Jackson.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 23:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that if you wanted to rearrange that order, you're talking about Lee Hunter making this big difference as a rookie.
• 23:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I, I'd feel like this is that it puts a little too much hope on Princey, Princey, um, um, being, um, a guy that could be like a seven, eight-sat guy.
• 24:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And Jalen Phillips alone just fixing the problem.
• 24:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think, I think that the Panthers defensive front is going to get more pressure.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think they, I think they've improved.
• 24:20
  [UNKNOWN]: But I don't know if I just look at that front right there and say they're dominating games.
• 24:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, and then you look at the secondary as well while you have horn and Mike Jack, you've got people the punching bag or the cute of of panthernation Nick Scott, do you have a range of guy back there, I think this defenses is significantly improved in talent, but I don't know if it's.
• 24:47
  [UNKNOWN]: There to go to top five, Cody.
• 24:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that saying top 10 is optimistic.
• 24:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And if we get a top 10 defense, we should be remarkably happy.
• 24:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh absolutely.
• 24:59
  [UNKNOWN]: But while I'm saying this, I'm considering in the rotation.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's not just Patrick Jones.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's also princely.
• 25:06
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not just cam Jackson.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's also the 100.
• 25:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Derek Brown is an all pro.
• 25:16
  [UNKNOWN]: We love this dude.
• 25:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Also Bobby Brown the third is another guy that's looked really good at the start of the year last year and I think that this defense
• 25:29
  [UNKNOWN]: has an opportunity to be that good if our ad rosers can be that much improved.
• 25:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I really like our big guys in the middle and I'm sticking to my guns Tony just like you thought I was crazy for saying hands King was making the 50-3 man rosters.
• 25:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I just do did we can roll back the tape I am dying on this hill
• 25:56
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• 25:59
  [UNKNOWN]: The defensive front 7 and I know you have to consider the back for also, but I legit think that this defensive front 7 can be a top 5 unit in football.
• 26:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I really do.
• 26:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't say you I don't think I said you were crazy.
• 26:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I just thought that I didn't think that the Panthers wanted to keep three active quarterbacks with the roster.
• 26:25
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• 26:27
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• 26:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Dave can now is kind of alluded to as much, which once we get to and up to not to, you know, trying to bury the leader here, but I kind of think it was a Dan Morgan decision.
• 26:41
  [UNKNOWN]: to Hugh Pan's King, but well, I think when we continue to look at how they navigated this roster, there were some surprises on IR, and that short-term IRR that we didn't necessarily see coming, is like, how do you deal with ATN, HN, whatever that we want to call them?
• 27:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Brady Christianson on the IR.
• 27:11
  [UNKNOWN]: They used the IR like I thought they would except for I thought Haines King was gonna be part of that IR to keep the players around.
• 27:21
  [UNKNOWN]: They manipulated it a different way I'm very glad that if they kept three quarterbacks that was the third quarterback They kept I could not see a world where they were keeping all of these quarterbacks and then letting him go right so
• 27:34
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• 27:35
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• 33:41
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• 33:44
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• 34:03
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• 34:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, if you are leaning in that direction CK where he believes the Panthers not only can cover but will come out on top, I actually say hold that wager off till closer to game time, because I think the number moves.
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• 36:44
  [UNKNOWN]: So Tony, give me a second to get to it all, but what did you make of the Carolina Panthers carrying five tight ends and then we'll go to some of that and I'll bring up Dan Morgan talking about it.
• 36:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've got a canalist clip on that.
• 37:00
  [UNKNOWN]: A little surprising.
• 37:02
  [UNKNOWN]: right is that the Carolina Panthers they kept tremble, they kept Mitchell, they kept Jutavian Sanders, they kept Felipe Franks and they kept Darren Waller.
• 37:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought this is that one of these guys when it came to Sanders, Felipe Franks and Waller would be
• 37:32
  [UNKNOWN]: are so bloated here C. K. Yeah.
• 37:36
  [UNKNOWN]: We saw them that they damn working made a big move or I think two big moves that kind of show like you're willing to.
• 37:46
  [UNKNOWN]: no longer be in the sunk cost fallacy.
• 37:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Difficult moves.
• 37:51
  [UNKNOWN]: They released Chandler Savala and Trevor Wallace.
• 37:57
  [UNKNOWN]: These are draft picks that were important to them.
• 38:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Savala is the only player from the
• 38:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce Young draft other than Bryce.
• 38:07
  [UNKNOWN]: That is still, Bryce is the only one left from that draft.
• 38:13
  [UNKNOWN]: To take in Sanders, fourth round pick, I believe, maybe third.
• 38:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I felt like this is a wanted to see Dan Morgan show that look.
• 38:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not holding on to like I believed in these guys.
• 38:29
  [UNKNOWN]: We drafted and we had conviction, but can we be better right now if without just saying we thought these guys were going to be better in the future these were to it in interesting people for me and jeteven Sanders made it through.
• 38:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I do agree.
• 38:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I cannot imagine a world where we're holding on to five tight ends.
• 38:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Come week one.
• 38:59
  [UNKNOWN]: There's just no, I think this is we're holding off on and maybe we read into a statement that Dan Moore, Dave Canal, said after our preseason game against the Texans
• 39:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Dave canalists didn't say absolutely not he said I have no information on that.
• 39:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And
• 39:26
  [UNKNOWN]: So I wonder if there is a conversation going on somewhere for somebody to be able to trade a fit there, six round for Jitevian Sanders and allowing them to, I think right now, the below you see tells me that they have in their eye on a free agent right now.
• 39:44
  [UNKNOWN]: That's my personal opinion.
• 39:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they have their eye on a free agent, similar to the situation.
• 39:48
  [UNKNOWN]: When we knew that a Bobbiocarek was coming to the Panthers,
• 39:54
  [UNKNOWN]: We didn't know who was going to get cut.
• 39:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Everybody assumed it was going to be to tapian sanders.
• 39:58
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't think wallers that guy though?
• 40:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I think wallers.
• 40:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm saying to tapian sanders.
• 40:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but like as in the, Oh, they're eye on a, free, like another acquisition feels like, I'm just going to down and you keep waller like maybe.
• 40:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Like you're saying is maybe you're thinking that they're still trying to find some movement for J.T.
• 40:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think they're still looking to move on from at least one of these guys and I think that in my opinion, I think it's to make room for whoever they're talking to in the free agency market right now, right?
• 40:46
  [UNKNOWN]: In my opinion, I think that when you see bloat at one position, it's an intentional to allow them to be able to make a move for somebody else at a different position.
• 40:56
  [UNKNOWN]: So when you look at any of these pieces that we have, if you're seeing that, man, we're kind of thin at this position, don't be shocked when Dan Morgan makes that finding and then release is one of these tight ends.
• 41:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 41:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 41:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I see what you're saying there.
• 41:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, what a Dan Morgan have to say about keeping five.
• 41:16
  [UNKNOWN]: and obviously Darren Waller was here for a couple of weeks.
• 41:19
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a couple of past and team drills.
• 41:21
  [UNKNOWN]: How did you have to weigh the lack of information you create in while he was here with Keaton Vibesitis?
• 41:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, I think, you know, keeping five tight ends, you know, I think it really comes down to each of those guys have a specific skill set that we like.
• 41:37
  [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, if you go down the line with Tommy, you know, a really good blocker and receiver,
• 41:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Mitch, you know, just a big body wide blocker, you know, who's also a very capable wide out for us.
• 41:51
  [UNKNOWN]: So you go down the list and there aren't all there to answer your question.
• 41:55
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I think he has a unique skill set that I think we can utilize.
• 42:01
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I think I know Coach Canales and his staff are really excited about having him and and what he can bring to our offense, different dimension to our offense.
• 42:12
  [UNKNOWN]: So, you know, I think that all went into keeping there.
• 42:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this Cody was interesting.
• 42:19
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I've always talked about in the past that they say there's competition.
• 42:23
  [UNKNOWN]: They're saying there's competition in certain groups.
• 42:27
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't know that like draft like you've invested in people and certain people have luxuries that other players don't.
• 42:36
  [UNKNOWN]: But if you look at this is to me, Felipe Frank's making this team, whether or not he's going to be on this team in two weeks, like CK potentially, maybe a Sanders or not, but Felipe Frank's in what Claude chairless Claude chairless, Claude and chairless, Claude and chairless, these are two guys that I think, like I think they embraced this, yeah.
• 43:01
  [UNKNOWN]: just team.
• 43:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that like, Felipe Franks, like, kind of better camp than J. T. Sanders not to take me in Sanders, shouldn't like, they made a mistake or it's not over like C. K. said, but like, they picked chairless over Wallace.
• 43:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I think we saw a couple of battles pan out.
• 43:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I agree, I think that the Trev and Wallace battle, unfortunately, there's a vola situation.
• 43:36
  [UNKNOWN]: The Brady Christensen, I think, is also a
• 43:42
  [UNKNOWN]: a soft cut just based on the fact that they did I are for him, um, you know, I do.
• 43:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I think there's a lot of battles that I think we got a definitive answer on and one of those battles that we haven't got a definitive answer on is this tight in room.
• 43:56
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 43:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Great.
• 43:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Here is Dave Kinnallis on this tight in-group.
• 44:00
  [UNKNOWN]: It's hard enough dealing with five block receivers out there.
• 44:02
  [UNKNOWN]: How are you going to manage the past catching them through?
• 44:05
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• 44:06
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• 44:15
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• 44:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, again, stuff that I'm not going to share about.
• 44:21
  [UNKNOWN]: But I will talk about that group and talk about the unique skill set from the tight end group and just having different body types you have Mitch, Mitch Evans who is a big wide.
• 44:31
  [UNKNOWN]: traditional body type who can body up with OLB's defensive ends.
• 44:35
  [UNKNOWN]: You have Tommy, who's got versatility, physical in the run game, fast enough to stretch a field and make things happen that way.
• 44:43
  [UNKNOWN]: You got JT, who kind of does a little bit of all of it and can play in the slot sum you know as a receiver.
• 44:48
  [UNKNOWN]: And then you talk about JT's ability to contribute on special teams, which he has improved.
• 44:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, over the course of time, Felipe, one of the, one of the really premier special teams players in the league, and then watching his growth as a tight end and his past catching ability is really intriguing.
• 45:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And then of course, running it off with Darren Waller, we know what he looks like on film, we know the element he can bring to us.
• 45:08
  [UNKNOWN]: So some things to work out there to see who we're going to have up helping us on game day.
• 45:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, but a group that I feel really strongly about Dan and I both felt that each guy has something unique that they bring to our team.
• 45:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and felt like it was a position we wanted to keep together.
• 45:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like he was trying to sell and pitch to David and Sanders there.
• 45:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't disagree.
• 45:27
  [UNKNOWN]: And I was like, but he wasn't willing to go so far as to say, you know, he's he's really excelled the, uh, special teams.
• 45:36
  [UNKNOWN]: He says he's gotten better.
• 45:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 45:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 45:39
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like he was like that is actually not what he's good at.
• 45:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I love this comment.
• 45:45
  [UNKNOWN]: the null 9256 as Sanders wasn't brought in here to block.
• 45:48
  [UNKNOWN]: He was expecting to be a playmaker.
• 45:51
  [UNKNOWN]: And somebody that big should be able to block and be a playmaker.
• 45:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Carolina has not excelled at making plays beyond initial contact.
• 46:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And while he struggled with injury and different things like this is, uh,
• 46:09
  [UNKNOWN]: you we picked him and we got excited about him because he was giant it was giant and fast and he hasn't played giant and fast and maybe that's injury and I don't want to shit on a player who's working hard hopefully and doing this but it does look like he's on the outside looking in and Felipe Frank's box at him out.
• 46:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I do think that you have some good point that you're made there when it sounds like they're you know, they're kind of trying to sell JT Sanders as a trade.
• 46:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I do think that JT has been underwhelming for the Panthers.
• 46:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I keep on remembering last year and Monday and I football on the road against the 49ers and JT Sanders just whiffed on a block that would have been a touchdown.
• 47:02
  [UNKNOWN]: But I do think that they really like what they saw from fully paying for angst in the preseason.
• 47:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And I mean, this has been on the roster for a number of different years now.
• 47:14
  [UNKNOWN]: So I think that they do like him.
• 47:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And I also think JT Sanders, they do want to see if they can get any of the mileage out of him that they thought they would when they drafted him.
• 47:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I think, uh, Junsu Sanders.
• 47:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, I think he was fourth.
• 47:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought he was third.
• 47:37
  [UNKNOWN]: He may have been a fourth.
• 47:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he's a fourth rounder.
• 47:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, thank you Eric Blair 6873.
• 47:46
  [UNKNOWN]: A C3 super fan for over a year now at 27 months.
• 47:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And I agree with his comment.
• 47:52
  [UNKNOWN]: He writes, damn Morgan has shown he can make some tough moves.
• 47:57
  [UNKNOWN]: C. K. I think about a lot of this when it comes to stocks and stock market stuff is that when you buy stock you kind of have a belief in what why you're buying it what it can do where the market's going to go and you can't just be like, oh, it lost money today, yeah, jettison it or
• 48:17
  [UNKNOWN]: The idea though, but you then get kind of committed like there becomes a ego component and emotional component where you want to be right and you're like, I'm going to ride this out and I think that has been one of the issues for the Carolina Panthers.
• 48:34
  [UNKNOWN]: with players is that, and we'll go, we'll get to this later when it comes to AJ Dylan making this team, which I think was an important thing.
• 48:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Now did they massage it and put at the end or HN or whatever you want to call them now on the IR and make it a little bit easier for them, but making those tough moves is an ego thing.
• 48:56
  [UNKNOWN]: or at least causes you to bring your ego into the cohesion where you just say this is like I can be wrong and being wrong in the past can make me right now and I think that
• 49:14
  [UNKNOWN]: For me, the big one was Trevin Wallace.
• 49:16
  [UNKNOWN]: If it would have been Trevin Wallace and J.T.
• 49:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Sanders, I think that would have been a big statement about like shedding that ego in that past.
• 49:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they tried.
• 49:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you gave me some good insight into why maybe they didn't just do it right away.
• 49:31
  [UNKNOWN]: But you also had to survive.
• 49:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god, Savala Savala and I don't like shit on people, but so much, but I think if you want to shit on Nick's guy, it's easier to shit on Savala is like he had the most fucking penalties in the game in a single game for a player.
• 49:49
  [UNKNOWN]: He's a little bit terrible.
• 49:50
  [UNKNOWN]: He just hasn't progressed.
• 49:52
  [UNKNOWN]: A lot of people also forget that when Bryce Young or her just foot last year, it was
• 50:03
  [UNKNOWN]: going into this favor.
• 50:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but yeah, I'm happy that we were sort of all Cody, we're gonna still keep working through this roster and some of the clips in the changes we've made, but I think it's time for us to try to bring in some calls to this equation.
• 50:19
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• 50:26
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• 50:32
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• 51:07
  [UNKNOWN]: So there is not me running the calls through the board.
• 51:11
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• 51:13
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• 51:19
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• 51:20
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• 51:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Did he make the tough decisions?
• 51:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, let's take these cat calls.
• 51:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's do it, the number 252, 228, 1598, your voice be heard on the longest running pan through this podcast.
• 51:38
  [UNKNOWN]: So what do you thought's on cat calling?
• 51:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's pretty sh**t, you shouldn't do that to somebody.
• 51:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And how do that make you feel?
• 51:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Very uncomfortable.
• 51:44
  [UNKNOWN]: How do you think cat calling makes the person feel?
• 51:47
  [UNKNOWN]: It feels good like, please, and of course, and of course, that gets it.
• 52:03
  [UNKNOWN]: was the Z3 itself from Spartanburg and man, the season's almost here.
• 52:08
  [UNKNOWN]: It was like a week and a half away.
• 52:10
  [UNKNOWN]: We're there.
• 52:11
  [UNKNOWN]: But this team, I like the roster.
• 52:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I like everything on it.
• 52:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I just wish, I mean, it's been an issue for us for a long time now, but drafting always seems to hurt us.
• 52:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I was looking at that 2024 class, Dan Morgan's first draft and it was
• 52:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Sanders, Charleston, the Wade, and then Cromedy, and then Barrett.
• 52:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, if Brooks gets injured again, and they get doesn't pop, that's the zero player or something that's rough, but didn't, I mean, anything.
• 52:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I feel like our lack of drafting is causing us to have to spend so much on these free agents.
• 52:56
  [UNKNOWN]: We had to spend 150 million
• 52:59
  [UNKNOWN]: on Robert Hunt and Damian Lewis because we can't just craft a guard like we try our best and we trust of all of us and he's awful and then our safety is terrible so we have to go get free agents next shot and free agent drive on morgue and then open linebackers suck so let's go get Devon Lloyd and Bobby will correct K I mean it's just like what
• 53:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I hope we have a great season, but I feel like with this really bad drafting history that we have, unless it changes what I hope it does, I hope all these most recent takes do, then I feel like we're just going to be in the revolving door spending high on free attempts.
• 53:51
  [UNKNOWN]: All right y'all, I hope y'all have a good show, see you.
• 53:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, this, he makes a great point.
• 53:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think one of the things that we're still suffering from, Tony, is a lot of the terrible decisions that Scott Fiddler made.
• 54:06
  [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, Dan Morgan is still very young as the GM for the Carolina Panthers.
• 54:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Even though he was here in a different capacity, but...
• 54:16
  [UNKNOWN]: It is true.
• 54:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, Zavala was a whiff, a traveling of Wallace who was drafted by Dan Morgan.
• 54:23
  [UNKNOWN]: He was a whiff.
• 54:25
  [UNKNOWN]: There are a lot of drafting things that we need to do better.
• 54:30
  [UNKNOWN]: However, I do feel like we are moving in the right direction.
• 54:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I'd like to hear a move in in the right direction.
• 54:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 54:37
  [UNKNOWN]: CK, I like the feeling that we are moving in the right direction, but I do want to give this caller his due right here.
• 54:47
  [UNKNOWN]: are we window dress look is we've had three draft classes now under damn Morgan his first one though can be considered like we as Cody said is you want to put it on fitter
• 55:03
  [UNKNOWN]: and not that he was putting that class on fitter but like the legacy of draft picks which is true right like he's inherited this crazy insanely terrible roster but this 2024 draft could go down as very difficult right you have Xavier look get in the first round you traded up to try to get a fifth round option Jonathan Brooks I'm a giant
• 55:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Jonathan Brooks fan like I'm a super fan here, but he's got to become the star, not just be the idea of a star.
• 55:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Trevor Wallace, miss, cut him.
• 55:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Just saving in Sanders, we're talking about him, ultimately being cut or wanted to be traded.
• 55:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Chows me the way though, playing pretty good
• 55:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Cremadi, when we get to the six and the seventh, nothing matters.
• 56:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Really, if you look at this 2024 draft class, it's the stain on damn organ except for the Michael Barrett.
• 56:10
  [UNKNOWN]: trade it yeah can I be I'm going to give my opinion about I agree that that is something that is that that was a draft that I think right now depending upon if the if the Jonathan Brooks thing pans out.
• 56:26
  [UNKNOWN]: that makes up for the entire 2024 draft in my opinion, because you've got to keep in.
• 56:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, get, look, gets got a pan out.
• 56:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, the get, I agree because we traded up into the first round for that, but I also think I'm looking at this from the perspective of Dan Morgan was inheriting a draft where he didn't have his number one overall pick option available to him.
• 56:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, and so Andy had to trade away his best to play your in bright turns to be able to give you a contract capital draft capital.
• 56:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, he's coming off of this off season of turmoil, uh, from having to them firing Federer to now.
• 57:04
  [UNKNOWN]: He's got to then establish his, his footprint within the organization very quickly, because like, let's be real.
• 57:12
  [UNKNOWN]: He was not the general manager until like a month before the draft.
• 57:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 57:17
  [UNKNOWN]: At the end of the day, there were a lot of moving parts, so I'm going to give him grace on that.
• 57:20
  [UNKNOWN]: But even with all of that, I think the 2024 draft is telling us something is that is far more important and that I think that he's not married to people that he has drafted and he's willing to move on from them, even though it's a it doesn't make him look great.
• 57:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I agree.
• 57:41
  [UNKNOWN]: He could have kept traveling Wallace on this team and kept him in the second string of position where, because I mean, he wasn't horrible for us.
• 57:49
  [UNKNOWN]: He just wasn't great.
• 57:51
  [UNKNOWN]: And so there were improvements that we could have made at the position.
• 57:55
  [UNKNOWN]: And so letting him go, showed that Dan Morgan isn't married to people just because of his own ego.
• 58:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I love this take, C.K.
• 58:04
  [UNKNOWN]: and we came here on Sunday and did the 53 and like as the cuts were being announced.
• 58:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And I, initially when I was going to phrase it is like, does this show an evolutionary step for the front office?
• 58:18
  [UNKNOWN]: But I don't think evolutionary is the right word.
• 58:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I think developmental step for like Dan Morgan, the front office, Dan Morgan.
• 58:27
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm including Dan Morgan of Dave Canales and help me out who's the big head, Moffa, that's the money guy.
• 58:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I literally had it in my head just now until you said the big end.
• 58:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and then you said his head is his head is in our head.
• 58:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I agree with you CK is that like I was looking for this one statement that is like we can do something that shows again not the sunk cost, fallacy, right when it comes to this.
• 59:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I would argue though, is that did they, I mean, I won't say I would argue.
• 59:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I had a question, was releasing Trevint Wallace enough.
• 59:15
  [UNKNOWN]: You hold on to Cheatavian Sanders.
• 59:18
  [UNKNOWN]: You feel like he's on the bubble.
• 59:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like this is that I think that Xavier LaGette, Trevor Wallace, and Cheatavian Sanders are all in this same conversation or are you holding onto them?
• 59:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Brat and tell us, by the way.
• 59:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Brat and tell us, thank you.
• 59:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Giant head, Brat and tell us.
• 59:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Huge head was Mike Myers would say, but the idea is I agree with you, CK,
• 59:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Exactly what you're talking about is to the willingness to say it's better to be good now Then to hold on to my ego and my conviction of what I did in the past.
• 59:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I just hope and I pray that That this the trev and Wallace wasn't just me doing this To kind of like show you
• 1:00:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I, and this is hot take, people are gonna be mad about it.
• 1:00:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I like Xavier LaGette.
• 1:00:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I've been a big fan in hoping he's gonna develop.
• 1:00:21
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think he's just as much in the conversation as Wallace Sanders and LaGette is like, are you holding onto your belief of what I did to Long?
• 1:00:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And LaGette was a lot on this roster from the beginning.
• 1:00:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, there wasn't any, it almost didn't even feel like he had to go, I don't feel like I look at him.
• 1:00:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I look at Metchie Cody said, Metchie's making this team.
• 1:00:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And I said, man, this bubble guy, I hope he does.
• 1:00:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I could see it, but he did, JC Horr, like I watched these guys run routes and I'm like, fuck man, these guys are going to fucking put people in a blender.
• 1:01:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't see more development for LaGET and I'm not brooting against him folks.
• 1:01:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I know you're going to go ahead and spend this is you don't like I don't dislike LaGET but was trevin Wallace CK just enough to say oh fans
• 1:01:25
  [UNKNOWN]: this is I've changed I've developed maybe 2024 draft fucking suck somebody in the comments said he fired all the scouts if you can take this off his resume he's cooking a lot but he had a great free agency that year too this is a very worried draft you're right but I also I look at his
• 1:01:50
  [UNKNOWN]: his draft picks.
• 1:01:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think the draft picks themselves tell a story.
• 1:01:56
  [UNKNOWN]: The Xavier Leagueet pick was a feel good pick for people in Carolina.
• 1:02:01
  [UNKNOWN]: And we needed receivers like we needed to write a way and we needed excitement moving back into the first round when we didn't think we were going to be there.
• 1:02:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I think offered excitement.
• 1:02:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I also think that he so I think that first draft he was influenced and I think it was influenced by a few things.
• 1:02:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it was influenced by the fuel good story of Xavier really get.
• 1:02:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he was also influenced against drafting Peyton Wilson instead of trevin Wallace because I'd be a big stain on his record because well, I don't know, Peyton Wilson has not been great.
• 1:02:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Like he's been he's been he's still on the steelers don't get me wrong and I'm not saying he's like bad, but he hasn't been like a guy you're saying like all this guy is the guy.
• 1:02:45
  [UNKNOWN]: he hasn't shown anything that made you feel like he was going to be the next Luke.
• 1:02:50
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think that the fact that I think we all can now say with almost certainty that Peyton was going to be a better pick if they had gone with him.
• 1:02:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that I look back at that and I think if he had drafted Peyton, I think he looks like he's being
• 1:03:06
  [UNKNOWN]: essentially controlled by the front office or controlled by the likes of Luke who had him on his top of the priority list.
• 1:03:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, sometimes maybe just listen to the cakely with his training with the guy.
• 1:03:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I do think that the film was better from Peyton Wilson and I don't really know what he's done since.
• 1:03:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, but I do know his rookie season.
• 1:03:35
  [UNKNOWN]: He was a standout for the Steelers.
• 1:03:38
  [UNKNOWN]: This is what Dan Morgan had to say about making the difficult decisions and then I will give
• 1:03:48
  [UNKNOWN]: You made the decision to cut back and wallets through the party.
• 1:03:51
  [UNKNOWN]: The questions are low, but you can hear it down for that.
• 1:03:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's difficult.
• 1:03:56
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, me and Trevin, we developed a really close relationship.
• 1:04:00
  [UNKNOWN]: He's been in my office multiple times.
• 1:04:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Us watch and tape together.
• 1:04:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I've really, you know, wish him the best.
• 1:04:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Obviously, getting claimed by the jets.
• 1:04:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Really happy for him and his family.
• 1:04:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And a new start for him and new direction.
• 1:04:16
  [UNKNOWN]: And I know he's excited about it.
• 1:04:19
  [UNKNOWN]: But again, those decisions, they don't come easy.
• 1:04:23
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think bring in linebackers in like Bobby Ocaricay bring in Tyrell dots and on to the practice squad and then having Claude Charilis and Jackson Kuwaj, two young guys that were really excited about we feel good about our lineback and core.
• 1:04:41
  [UNKNOWN]: So let's open this on Twitter.
• 1:04:43
  [UNKNOWN]: The fact that we were able to move on from
• 1:04:49
  [UNKNOWN]: And even David Moore, that we didn't do what we call kind of expedited him to do Tony and just grant him a 53 man roster spot, even in spite of younger talent on the team, I feel like this is growth from Dan Morgan don't hold ties to players too long, when you have better younger upstart players that are available to take that spot.
• 1:05:16
  [UNKNOWN]: you know, give them the opportunity to win the job.
• 1:05:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And I love that Dan Morgan has done that.
• 1:05:23
  [UNKNOWN]: We went with John, matching in Jimmy Horn, instead of David Moore, Chandler's Avala is no longer on the Adter 503 man roster.
• 1:05:32
  [UNKNOWN]: And look, we have driven Wallace as much of an opportunity as anyone could have ever had to be a starter here in Carolina.
• 1:05:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And it just didn't work out.
• 1:05:43
  [UNKNOWN]: And that was
• 1:05:45
  [UNKNOWN]: But the way that he was able to evaluate Jackson Kuwaj, bring in Bobby Ocariki, said, you know what?
• 1:05:53
  [UNKNOWN]: We think Claude and Charlottes can be better than Chairman Wallace.
• 1:05:58
  [UNKNOWN]: It shows an ability to learn from your mistakes and move on and always do what is in the best interest over your roster.
• 1:06:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I love this about Dan.
• 1:06:09
  [UNKNOWN]: His ability to move on.
• 1:06:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I think has been great.
• 1:06:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I cannot tell you the last time where I felt like we had real leadership at the GM position was.
• 1:06:21
  [UNKNOWN]: It was probably the last time I thought David Heddleman was still a good GM, and I was wrong then, but
• 1:06:28
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 1:06:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I think C.K.
• 1:06:46
  [UNKNOWN]: brings up some really great points when it comes to circumstances that Dan Morgan was facing.
• 1:06:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't necessarily think generating this excitement C.K.
• 1:06:58
  [UNKNOWN]: of trading up for Excel into the like is.
• 1:07:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that was as much on his mind as like we need a receiver.
• 1:07:08
  [UNKNOWN]: We think this development all we can get a fifth year option.
• 1:07:16
  [UNKNOWN]: He was, I mean, he inherited a fucking mess.
• 1:07:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:07:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go ahead and say that.
• 1:07:20
  [UNKNOWN]: And Dan Morgan has he been flawless, not at all.
• 1:07:24
  [UNKNOWN]: But again, we're trying to look and see if he was development, if he's developmentally improving.
• 1:07:30
  [UNKNOWN]: But those early draft, that early draft right there was difficult.
• 1:07:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And it does, it's not out of the gate that he is just drafted perfectly.
• 1:07:41
  [UNKNOWN]: But who can?
• 1:07:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I like the idea that Dan Morgan is moving now to make moves for today.
• 1:07:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, and I think that is when we see Trevin Wallace in chairless, or when we see him adding uh, Oh, correct.
• 1:08:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, good.
• 1:08:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I know.
• 1:08:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 1:08:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 1:08:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 1:08:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
• 1:08:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 1:08:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Is not just like, oh, where it's it's a five year.
• 1:08:11
  [UNKNOWN]: How many times do we have to hear the fucking Matt rule clip of it's a six year plan, a six year plan?
• 1:08:16
  [UNKNOWN]: At some point, the plan also has to marry today.
• 1:08:20
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think AJ Dillon is another great example of how the future and today meet together.
• 1:08:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, let's take another call and we'll continue to work through some of these roster moves.
• 1:08:34
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• 1:08:37
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• 1:09:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's hit them with another cat call.
• 1:09:09
  [UNKNOWN]: What is going on?
• 1:09:10
  [UNKNOWN]: See three nations.
• 1:09:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Good to see you guys here.
• 1:09:13
  [UNKNOWN]: You guys tonight calling
• 1:09:19
  [UNKNOWN]: for last eight and a half years.
• 1:09:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I've been calling in from beautiful Idaho and so excited to be saying I'm calling in from North Kaka Lacky.
• 1:09:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my gosh, I've done.
• 1:09:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm excited to be back in town.
• 1:09:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I've managed the NFL package to watch my Panthers play.
• 1:09:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Super excited for the season.
• 1:09:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to know, I know you guys are going to be talking about cuts and the rosters and what not.
• 1:09:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I just, I know the professor is a junkie for a good thought experiment, so I wanted to throw this out.
• 1:09:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 1:09:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I am.
• 1:10:00
  [UNKNOWN]: We've got our by week and week spies early and then we go play the fillies.
• 1:10:17
  [UNKNOWN]: and braces looked up and down like he has.
• 1:10:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that the time that we put the king in?
• 1:10:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you got to get on Cody's role, man.
• 1:10:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, no.
• 1:10:30
  [UNKNOWN]: You got to get on Cody's role.
• 1:10:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, both of that I experiment.
• 1:10:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyway, love to hear what you guys think.
• 1:10:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm hoping for, hoping for a great season.
• 1:10:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm expecting this team to,
• 1:10:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I'm not expecting them to be world-beaters by any means, we got a tough schedule, but hopefully, same record, maybe a little bit better than last year, or maybe same record is last year, but want to know your thoughts on how bad is it when the king comes to town
• 1:11:10
  [UNKNOWN]: This is not a thought experiment, this is just trying to trick your people.
• 1:11:18
  [UNKNOWN]: It's so good and Tony, look man, I do not regardless of what some people might tell you.
• 1:11:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I did not pray in for the downfall of Bryan Stone.
• 1:11:29
  [UNKNOWN]: What I am saying?
• 1:11:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I would never nobody better not if we have a down for the price young you What I am is that if Bryce don't for whatever reason flames out
• 1:11:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I do feel like we have a potential start and quarterback on our roster.
• 1:11:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I really do and I know we only got to see one game against the third string for the Arizona Cardinals.
• 1:11:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, I'm telling you, if Bryce doesn't live up to expectations in year four, you're about to get more annoyed and annoyed and annoyed because it is far from just maybe in Panthers fandom who thinks that we have a king.
• 1:12:10
  [UNKNOWN]: and the Queen soon and baby.
• 1:12:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Just tell you this, if Bryce doesn't flame up and he flames out this year, the Carolina Panthers will be searching for options at the quarterback position.
• 1:12:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you go back into the draft and reinvest?
• 1:12:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you move up and trade like you did?
• 1:12:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you do you go and get a free agent?
• 1:12:39
  [UNKNOWN]: C. K. the only thing about hands king in this developmental thing that Cody's talking about is that price price flames out I could see a scenario where the Panthers go we're going to try to rock with.
• 1:12:56
  [UNKNOWN]: a cheap quarterback that has a run pass option for a year and see if we can get better next year, not better, but like, oh, like give us some buffer room.
• 1:13:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that they're like, oh, all the sudden, this is a long term project or like a long term answer.
• 1:13:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they could use it as a buffer.
• 1:13:20
  [UNKNOWN]: to kind of like just try to figure out where they're going after that.
• 1:13:23
  [UNKNOWN]: But I don't want to get too much into flame out.
• 1:13:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, we need Panthers flame up.
• 1:13:31
  [UNKNOWN]: We need Bryce young flame up.
• 1:13:32
  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers are open with the bears at home.
• 1:13:35
  [UNKNOWN]: They go to them speaking specifically to the
• 1:13:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Falcons on the road week two on the road against the browns hosting the lions 1234 week five they have the buy you're coming off the you're going on the road against the Eagles you're hoping that you're probably two and two walking into that moment
• 1:14:07
  [UNKNOWN]: How do the Panthers approach an Eagles team coming off a buy?
• 1:14:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that might just like the color is, I think, intimating in some ways, is that that Eagles game in week six is a giant game.
• 1:14:24
  [UNKNOWN]: for the direction the team is going you could be best case scenario.
• 1:14:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I want to say best case scenario.
• 1:14:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, in best case scenarios, you win all your games.
• 1:14:35
  [UNKNOWN]: But I mean, think realistically, you win two out of the first four games, bears, falcons, browns, panthers, maybe three.
• 1:14:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that Eagles game coming off the bat is an opportunity for you to
• 1:14:54
  [UNKNOWN]: and I don't know if Haynes King, I don't think he's going to be.
• 1:14:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't worry, if Haynes King is starting against the Eagles, our fucking season is fucked, but could you come off the Bicycle and have a couple of gimmicky plays for Haynes King is the taste and hill of the Carolina Panthers.
• 1:15:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I do.
• 1:15:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that could happen.
• 1:15:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I think we could see that happening regardless of how well Bryce is playing just because of the versatility that he brings to the team.
• 1:15:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I will say that I don't believe this team is ever going to be prepared to push all their chips on the Haynes King scenario.
• 1:15:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I think if
• 1:15:45
  [UNKNOWN]: If we go into next year and Bryce is clearly hit as ceiling this year, and he's not able to I don't think that they I don't think there's a chance that they are not pursuing a veteran because I think this is the most ready team that we've seen in the Panthers Carolina Panthers sense to at least 2017 to make a run.
• 1:16:05
  [UNKNOWN]: and I think that at the very least they're going to pursue somebody who is a proven commodity at the position to be able to take them over the top.
• 1:16:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't even think they're going to risk drafting a rookie if we hit the numbers that we should this year.
• 1:16:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I think 100 percent there's going to be the Tom Brady Tampa Bay experience if we end up if we end up not having brush on work out this year.
• 1:16:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I do not think they're going to be putting hands keen in a position
• 1:16:35
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what can I just ask there still.
• 1:16:38
  [UNKNOWN]: If we're going get a veteran quarterback, who is that veteran because you're going to have to look at what the shuffle brings because you're Yeah, you're going to have to know
• 1:16:51
  [UNKNOWN]: there's going to be somebody out there every year there is and I think that it's not out of the question that you get somebody who you are shocked isn't going to be at the place they've been at for a while.
• 1:17:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying I'm a homes or anything like that's ever going to be available to us, but I certainly don't think that it's out of the realm of possible for there to be a high quality
• 1:17:17
  [UNKNOWN]: quarterback that could be available to us either via trader through a free agency and not a guy that's necessarily brought in to just lead you to a superbowl, but that's to try to be to make you a non-win team.
• 1:17:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And it feels like we're always in that position that we're just trying to be no, we're not even in that position, bro.
• 1:17:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, again, we weren't that's essentially what we were trying to be last year.
• 1:17:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't want to go listen, go with hands king over another Teddy Bridge water.
• 1:17:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Why wouldn't you go with the younger, more physically available guy with the bigger arm that can do a lot of things rather than a retreat?
• 1:18:00
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'll also remind you that Brock Perty is the starting quarterback for the 49ers and he was the last pick of the NFL draft.
• 1:18:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm telling you this year, if things go bad for Bryce, which again, I'm not predicting that they will.
• 1:18:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I do think he will have a good year this year, but if things don't go well for Bryce, there is no reason to not evaluate and start to see what you have in hands can.
• 1:18:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And it could make it a bus year on purpose not on purpose, but it's like, oh, this is what we'll try and if it works and we catch a little magic then Oh, we'll develop this guy, but then it also gives you a buffer year.
• 1:18:46
  [UNKNOWN]: to say, I mean, that sucks.
• 1:18:48
  [UNKNOWN]: It kind of feels like it could be a throwaway year.
• 1:18:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:18:52
  [UNKNOWN]: C. K. Thanks, man.
• 1:18:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Brother, I know you're not feeling well.
• 1:18:57
  [UNKNOWN]: We're not where I don't want to put that out.
• 1:18:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you for hanging out with us.
• 1:19:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And we'll see you soon.
• 1:19:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I will see you guys on the next one.
• 1:19:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 1:19:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Can't help them, brother.
• 1:19:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Be so.
• 1:19:09
  [UNKNOWN]: As we continue through, let's take another call.
• 1:19:12
  [UNKNOWN]: That thought experiment is more to me.
• 1:19:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Not about, look, that's how Cody lack question is like, oh, his hands can take.
• 1:19:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, if hands can't,
• 1:19:26
  [UNKNOWN]: anywhere in the conversation of being a starter this year.
• 1:19:29
  [UNKNOWN]: That means the Panthers have taken a step back as a team.
• 1:19:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me give you a point, KJ-7-3.
• 1:19:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Hands, can, as a little trick you'd be one in this league.
• 1:19:40
  [UNKNOWN]: OK. That's a good idea.
• 1:19:41
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a better chance to win today.
• 1:19:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Telling you, you know what, they don't have the guts to do it right away, and they can't.
• 1:19:50
  [UNKNOWN]: You can get an award with me saying this.
• 1:19:53
  [UNKNOWN]: But they're just, you know, I just feel like this if we're at that point to where that conversation is anywhere realistic, right?
• 1:20:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Like is that we're not, it's not like hyperbally, it's not a little extravagant.
• 1:20:14
  [UNKNOWN]: That means that the entire Bryce Young experiment is completely over.
• 1:20:22
  [UNKNOWN]: and to be honest, it's not even a hot take, it's to take that people don't like us talking about on this podcast, all the fluffers or what do you go glazers of the internet?
• 1:20:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Is Bryce Young is not out of the weeds, man.
• 1:20:41
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, anyone who says otherwise is just being a homer.
• 1:20:46
  [UNKNOWN]: This is the theory that he absolutely has to prove his worth.
• 1:20:51
  [UNKNOWN]: If he does not, we're going to be looking at hands king or looking to draft another quarterback or maybe looking to trade for another quarterback somewhere else in the NFL.
• 1:21:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And when we say where we're not when we, when I say proof your worth is that you are a asset to the team.
• 1:21:12
  [UNKNOWN]: rather than, oh, we can manage or a detriment, like I think it's time and there's no argument that the Carolina Panthers have not afforded time.
• 1:21:25
  [UNKNOWN]: It's time for Bryce Young to show he's an asset that the Carolina Panthers, again.
• 1:21:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I know I have to caution in this cancel culture of everybody saying, I fucking hate whatever.
• 1:21:36
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I don't hate him at all.
• 1:21:38
  [UNKNOWN]: It's time to show you an asset to this team to where we can ride on your back.
• 1:21:46
  [UNKNOWN]: You can drag us to two more wins rather than, oh, hope you can help us get two wins.
• 1:21:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, let's take another call if you got it cut up.
• 1:21:59
  [UNKNOWN]: If not, we'll do another direction.
• 1:22:01
  [UNKNOWN]: You're the producer.
• 1:22:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Yo, you, what's going on?
• 1:22:04
  [UNKNOWN]: See three tempting from Charlotte.
• 1:22:06
  [UNKNOWN]: What's up, man?
• 1:22:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Have a good Tuesday, man.
• 1:22:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, football month is here, man.
• 1:22:10
  [UNKNOWN]: 12 days away.
• 1:22:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Streamly pumped.
• 1:22:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, I just wanted to call in quick.
• 1:22:18
  [UNKNOWN]: So I have to you guys.
• 1:22:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Where's y'all said that going into week one?
• 1:22:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Um,
• 1:22:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel pretty good, man.
• 1:22:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I do.
• 1:22:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel really, pretty good.
• 1:22:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I like what Kenals came on said today.
• 1:22:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I like what Dan Morgan said, man, like, getting into that.
• 1:22:35
  [UNKNOWN]: It's crazy how much he, you know, slipped around the linebacker room in the span of a couple days.
• 1:22:43
  [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, making hard decisions, things that you just like to see, right?
• 1:22:48
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, we've had teams here in the past that have kept players around for far too long.
• 1:22:53
  [UNKNOWN]: and haven't replaced them because they felt insecure about admitting their mistakes and at the end of the day I think Dan said all the right things today men so you know fair world of trevying but I like the guys we sign um... there's also weird you talk about the tight ends and he didn't mention J.C. Sanders
• 1:23:18
  [UNKNOWN]: So, you know, that's something still to keep an eye out for.
• 1:23:21
  [UNKNOWN]: On the other thing I will say to you is, man, we have like seven key players on IR, and I still feel really good at this team.
• 1:23:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know the last time, maybe seven's a little exaggerated, and I think it's like five, but I don't know the last time I've been able to say it, I mean, like this is a testament to the roster
• 1:23:47
  [UNKNOWN]: three years, you know?
• 1:23:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm pumped man for week one.
• 1:23:54
  [UNKNOWN]: What are your guys thoughts?
• 1:23:55
  [UNKNOWN]: What are you guys feeling?
• 1:23:57
  [UNKNOWN]: You optimistic or you pessimistic?
• 1:23:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Because dude, I think the defense is going to kick ass this year.
• 1:24:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I really do.
• 1:24:04
  [UNKNOWN]: My questions are with the offense, you know?
• 1:24:06
  [UNKNOWN]: And can outs as I stand in there.
• 1:24:07
  [UNKNOWN]: We're trying to get out of the division.
• 1:24:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I like to ease, you know?
• 1:24:11
  [UNKNOWN]: We'll see.
• 1:24:12
  [UNKNOWN]: We'll see if they're prepared week one.
• 1:24:16
  [UNKNOWN]: he's on board with what we're trying to do here like we're trying to compete the extrications are higher i will say i will be disappointed if we come out and this often looks cool is again i don't think it's it's acceptable for that this year especially with what's on the line but give me your guys thoughts what are you that feeling about week one what are you thinking about how are you feeling about this roster turn around let me know Anthony from charlie can motherfucking
• 1:24:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Thanks, Anthony, from Charlotte, one of our greatest friends.
• 1:24:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, I love this kid.
• 1:24:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I love this kid.
• 1:24:51
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not a kid.
• 1:24:53
  [UNKNOWN]: He's a man.
• 1:24:53
  [UNKNOWN]: He's a great man who knows a ton about football.
• 1:24:56
  [UNKNOWN]: He said this, what stood out about his call is how the Panthers used the IR.
• 1:25:04
  [UNKNOWN]: He didn't phrase it that way.
• 1:25:05
  [UNKNOWN]: He was like, these players went to IR
• 1:25:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the name that I look at going to IR is Trevor Etzion.
• 1:25:21
  [UNKNOWN]: is that is we've talked about this or at least I've tried to I feel like I've continued to emphasize this discussion about tough decisions for the front office.
• 1:25:35
  [UNKNOWN]: AJ Dillon has played great in the preseason.
• 1:25:41
  [UNKNOWN]: He is a proven player in the NFL.
• 1:25:44
  [UNKNOWN]: He was ultimately like
• 1:25:52
  [UNKNOWN]: He had a neck injury when he went to Philadelphia, so it's like, oh, you're like, oh, well, AJ Dylan's old and he fell off.
• 1:25:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, he had a serious injury that took more than a season ultimately.
• 1:26:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I think to deal with AJ Dylan came in here.
• 1:26:08
  [UNKNOWN]: They called him, what Thaisilla?
• 1:26:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I think reducing him to just a short yard.
• 1:26:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Thaisilla.
• 1:26:16
  [UNKNOWN]: quadzilla that's what it is I don't even think he's like a short yardage back I mean I'm not saying he's not a short yardage back but like I think you just look at his thighs and think he's fucking supposed to be this guy that you're gonna put on in fourth and short
• 1:26:36
  [UNKNOWN]: He did everything in the preseason.
• 1:26:38
  [UNKNOWN]: He caught passes out of the backfield.
• 1:26:40
  [UNKNOWN]: He played on the special teams.
• 1:26:45
  [UNKNOWN]: He looked good in space.
• 1:26:47
  [UNKNOWN]: He showed that he was a player, a good player in this league.
• 1:26:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I think to me is moving Trevor at the end to IR to keep AJ Dylan was the move.
• 1:27:02
  [UNKNOWN]: that what Anthony is kind of saying is that like I'm not even that big mad.
• 1:27:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm actually excited.
• 1:27:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm gonna be real as somebody who was a super fan of his brother Trevor to then their channel, whatever, Clemson Tiger.
• 1:27:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I won't call him that.
• 1:27:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Trevor has been underwhelming.
• 1:27:27
  [UNKNOWN]: And I know maybe I'm a little bit of a little bit of a thing.
• 1:27:29
  [UNKNOWN]: It's still young in the league.
• 1:27:30
  [UNKNOWN]: But that's why I like that.
• 1:27:32
  [UNKNOWN]: He's on the practice for us.
• 1:27:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 1:27:33
  [UNKNOWN]: But, you know, and I had this letter in the show too.
• 1:27:37
  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to talk about it whenever.
• 1:27:38
  [UNKNOWN]: But the kick returner, I like that they're going in a different direction.
• 1:27:45
  [UNKNOWN]: that they're giving guys like Jimmy Hoon Jr. and opportunity on kicking forward.
• 1:27:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I love how they've made me.
• 1:27:50
  [UNKNOWN]: It's mother fuckers up.
• 1:27:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, that's what you should do.
• 1:27:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, get this guy that can make a move.
• 1:27:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm really done with running back being years for kick returners.
• 1:28:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not into that.
• 1:28:03
  [UNKNOWN]: But.
• 1:28:04
  [UNKNOWN]: But Tony, this is why I called, uh, why I named the fine cash with I did the night Dan Morgan made all the right decisions for the Carolina Panthers.
• 1:28:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Because even all the guys that we think could be good or developmental players, you know, like Trevor, uh, like just seeing we'd like to volunteer Smith to corner, uh, you know, like Isaiah Simmons.
• 1:28:28
  [UNKNOWN]: they're all still Carolina Panthers.
• 1:28:31
  [UNKNOWN]: We were very fortunate that a lot of people that we were excited about that we put to waivers cleared waivers that we could then practice squad Isaiah Simmons read in that group.
• 1:28:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I just want to go back real quick to AJ Dylan is I think that just
• 1:28:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Emma Quadzilla and reducing him to a short yardage back is ultimately just saying he's Mike Tolbert.
• 1:29:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And Mike Tolbert was a good running back for the Carolina Panthers, but I was still can test this is like meet me and I will fight you like Cody like Will on the internet all the
• 1:29:26
  [UNKNOWN]: He was not, he was a bull, he needed momentum to get going through.
• 1:29:30
  [UNKNOWN]: He was not Jeremy Jerome Bettis.
• 1:29:34
  [UNKNOWN]: He took, he was, this is why his mom fucking fought with me on the internet.
• 1:29:41
  [UNKNOWN]: and I've been blocked or whatever by that is that he was not just because he looks thick does not mean that he moved the pile.
• 1:29:50
  [UNKNOWN]: He needed some runway.
• 1:29:52
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm not just looking at AJ Dylan going, oh, well, we got our short yardage answer.
• 1:29:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm not saying that AJ Dylan cannot be a short yardage answer.
• 1:30:04
  [UNKNOWN]: But this is something that we came back to Cody
• 1:30:10
  [UNKNOWN]: about Haynes King.
• 1:30:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:30:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Is like, do we just keep on the roster and develop him?
• 1:30:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to do that.
• 1:30:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to just keep him as a third position.
• 1:30:23
  [UNKNOWN]: It'd just be like, oh, maybe there's a day that you can be on this team.
• 1:30:29
  [UNKNOWN]: If you compare him to this team, right?
• 1:30:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, I'm not even say, preparing to be a starter, but like you obviously know that he has some sort of asset that can deliver now.
• 1:30:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that the Carolina Panthers using Haines King in a Tasem Hill role negates him from development as a quarterback.
• 1:30:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that there's a lot of people out there that's like, oh, no, let them just be on the squad and let them progress as a quarterback, we don't.
• 1:30:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is that if you're going to use that roster spot, you better use that motherfucker.
• 1:31:05
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't think just saying, oh, we've got.
• 1:31:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Dylan as an active person negates what short yardage could be.
• 1:31:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Haynes King, we've seen this, is that Bryce, that he didn't perform, the coaches didn't have faith in him in these cuby sneaks.
• 1:31:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't even there.
• 1:31:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm actually kind of upset that this little kid can't just sneak between this guy's legs and get that.
• 1:31:34
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:31:35
  [UNKNOWN]: It's Tom Brown.
• 1:31:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's the use of athleticism.
• 1:31:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Tom Brady did not use his athleticism to get.
• 1:31:43
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'll say every first down.
• 1:31:45
  [UNKNOWN]: But if you don't have faith,
• 1:31:48
  [UNKNOWN]: in the fourth and inches with Bryce.
• 1:31:52
  [UNKNOWN]: What's wrong with putting Hank's King in there and AJ Dylan?
• 1:31:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, but that's the goal line package.
• 1:32:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, there's some big strong dudes in there.
• 1:32:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think it has to be either or dealing.
• 1:32:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, oh, we got Dylan.
• 1:32:07
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't want to use both.
• 1:32:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, you're going to 100% use both.
• 1:32:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'll say this and then we'll play one more call and we'll continue with the show.
• 1:32:17
  [UNKNOWN]: But I feel like AJ Dylan, if it's AJ Dylan, Jonathan
• 1:32:24
  [UNKNOWN]: you can be an incredible running back.
• 1:32:27
  [UNKNOWN]: But truthfully, and I've said, just forever, your running back is only really ever as good as the offensive line that's making holes for it.
• 1:32:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, maybe not.
• 1:32:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, listen, there aren't going to be a good running back, that's due to running back, so they've been tied by your offensive line.
• 1:32:46
  [UNKNOWN]: period.
• 1:32:47
  [UNKNOWN]: There are guys that can make magic, but I'm saying, you don't even have to be a magic maker.
• 1:32:53
  [UNKNOWN]: If you have a dependable online in front of you, I think early on in the season in those go-line scenarios.
• 1:33:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I'd do prefer AJ Dylan as a badgering ram of a player to just turn out those extra y'all.
• 1:33:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't really even think that that's true,
• 1:33:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me put it pose it to you this way is that everybody's worried about Jonathan Brooks getting hurt, right?
• 1:33:21
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what the concern is, the crazy concern.
• 1:33:24
  [UNKNOWN]: But think about a world where Jonathan Brooks stays healthy, but it's chuba hovered that gets hurt.
• 1:33:32
  [UNKNOWN]: What's the better right of the running back group?
• 1:33:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Jonathan Brooks and AJ Dylan, or Jonathan Brooks and Etienne.
• 1:33:44
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think it is the former.
• 1:33:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it is, we've got a proven running back that can do everything in AJ Dillon.
• 1:33:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think, I think this was to me a very important move for the Carolina Panthers.
• 1:34:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe.
• 1:34:01
  [UNKNOWN]: They mastered it through I are with Etienne with this is very similar to me of a trevin Wallace move is AJ Dylan makes her team better right now.
• 1:34:17
  [UNKNOWN]: But the amount of injuries that we've been incurred over the years that running back, I mean, we could easily see traveling, I mean, you know, traveling, a change into you and whatever, being called up to the active roster.
• 1:34:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's something that we could see happen.
• 1:34:34
  [UNKNOWN]: We have two more calls on deck, but let's take another one that will go back.
• 1:34:38
  [UNKNOWN]: And we gotta get into the things came down a little more, man.
• 1:34:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Whenever you come in here, can you please hit the light button?
• 1:34:49
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• 1:34:52
  [UNKNOWN]: The C3 podcast is the lowest one of the content is podcasts on YouTube.
• 1:34:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Prechanges to see the whole thing.
• 1:34:58
  [UNKNOWN]: They got free for all every Friday.
• 1:35:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And on Sunday, they got the game recaps every Sunday during the season.
• 1:35:07
  [UNKNOWN]: But real quick, man, this roster shake up, man, real quick, damn Morgan.
• 1:35:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Ever since then, Morgan, but in GM, he's just been fucking cooking.
• 1:35:19
  [UNKNOWN]: A bi-C, so-through, wherever you want.
• 1:35:22
  [UNKNOWN]: He got them, got it.
• 1:35:23
  [UNKNOWN]: He cooking it, got them it.
• 1:35:25
  [UNKNOWN]: But a cook-a-law, let's buy, buy, yeah, out of here, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:35:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, we were, we were then Bobby, got them a lawyer.
• 1:35:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, this defense, we legit, you know what, everybody keeps talking about the fucking rams and all those booze shit.
• 1:35:40
  [UNKNOWN]: But everyone, I'm going to pay them a couple of years.
• 1:35:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And my opinion, we have one of the best decisions in the league.
• 1:35:46
  [UNKNOWN]: We have two set-down corners, you know.
• 1:35:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And we have a pass for us now with Zacilus.
• 1:35:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I predict Zacilus and Trits both get double the taxes, season, you know, but yeah, it's a strong possibility.
• 1:36:02
  [UNKNOWN]: At my opinion, we shouldn't have a top five, top 10 D-sets.
• 1:36:06
  [UNKNOWN]: But that being said, just what I, just what our D-sets,
• 1:36:11
  [UNKNOWN]: But our defense alone, you know, so Bryce can't get it done.
• 1:36:17
  [UNKNOWN]: So, Hank's team made a team.
• 1:36:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I was, you know, happy about Hank's team because he said he looked good, man.
• 1:36:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And I hope we got any hope he has some packages.
• 1:36:28
  [UNKNOWN]: If Hank's team has packages, Bryce Young would not be in the future for the Panthers.
• 1:36:33
  [UNKNOWN]: If Hank's team has packages this year, you know,
• 1:36:42
  [UNKNOWN]: But then we did bring back Isaiah Simmons, you know, they did get rid of the shuttle of Sevalla.
• 1:36:48
  [UNKNOWN]: The only thing I'm still mad about right now is Nick Scott is still on this team for some reason.
• 1:36:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Now I've gotten to take Isaiah Simmons, got down the mind, Richard said, I would take anybody over Nick Scott.
• 1:37:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 1:37:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I would take Cody Rack over Nick Scott, over Nick Scott, over Nick Scott, over Nick Scott, over Nick Scott, over Nick Scott, over Nick Scott, over Nick Scott, over Nick Scott, over
• 1:37:10
  [UNKNOWN]: But like seriously, like what do we do?
• 1:37:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right.
• 1:37:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, fuck out of here.
• 1:37:13
  [UNKNOWN]: You're always fucking up.
• 1:37:15
  [UNKNOWN]: You know.
• 1:37:16
  [UNKNOWN]: But with that being said, I'm excited, man.
• 1:37:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm excited for the season real quick.
• 1:37:21
  [UNKNOWN]: If anybody going to be down here in the land, I will get the landing game.
• 1:37:24
  [UNKNOWN]: If you want to hang out.
• 1:37:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to catch the rest of my smoke.
• 1:37:27
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm green.
• 1:37:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I can turn up.
• 1:37:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I would, you know, I live down here in the land.
• 1:37:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I would be that we too, you know.
• 1:37:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyway, everybody have a great fucking week.
• 1:37:35
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• 1:37:43
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• 1:37:46
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• 1:37:47
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• 1:37:48
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• 1:37:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Lenton ransom, we got back there.
• 1:37:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I think next cut is the last holdout.
• 1:37:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Once we truly upgrade that position,
• 1:38:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, I feel like we're beginning the money, man.
• 1:38:05
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm hoping that's the key.
• 1:38:06
  [UNKNOWN]: We really can be that for us in the future, being that long, rangey safety and just being capable of cutting off one half of the field as a free safety.
• 1:38:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Tell me what you're doing.
• 1:38:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to appreciate you to see it all.
• 1:38:24
  [UNKNOWN]: We got some more calls.
• 1:38:26
  [UNKNOWN]: We got Joey.
• 1:38:29
  [UNKNOWN]: in the queue next.
• 1:38:30
  [UNKNOWN]: But, Tony, let's talk about this a little bit.
• 1:38:33
  [UNKNOWN]: On hands, can, hand, canes, black, hands, canes, quarterback development.
• 1:38:41
  [UNKNOWN]: One of the, by the way, this is all from these articles that we're pulling from.
• 1:38:46
  [UNKNOWN]: This is all from Darren Gantt on Panthers.com.
• 1:38:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Check them out.
• 1:38:51
  [UNKNOWN]: One of the other mild surprises of the cuts was the decision to keep undrafted rookie Haines King as a third quarterback.
• 1:38:59
  [UNKNOWN]: He didn't place himself in a hamstring injury, late in the Hall of Fame game.
• 1:39:03
  [UNKNOWN]: but showed enough promise throughout the summer that they wanted to keep him.
• 1:39:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Of course, given there's running background in Georgia Tech, there's a curiosity about his use as a trick play or a special package player.
• 1:39:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And knowing the bears are listening, Canalis said with a grin anything's possible.
• 1:39:24
  [UNKNOWN]: King can be in uniform each week as the emergency third quarterback,
• 1:39:32
  [UNKNOWN]: and then the camp returned to game for him to play he'd have to be a part of the actor 48 on game day without the emergency designation.
• 1:39:45
  [UNKNOWN]: So telling you this is what we've been talking about.
• 1:39:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I've been telling you that listen in the Dave canalists and especially listen in the Dan Morgan who I will play here in the second.
• 1:39:56
  [UNKNOWN]: The things that you're when I
• 1:39:59
  [UNKNOWN]: or a very real possibility, they will snap into the ball, not knowing whether it's going to be a run, if it's going to pass it, even just on some RPO players just to keep the defense guessing.
• 1:40:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I really believe that they're going to do this, as you were telling me, and I believe that this is going to be their justification for not letting him go, not running with two quarterbacks like Dave Canales admitted that he's used to doing and using this guy as a real weapon on your team.
• 1:40:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is going to happen this year.
• 1:40:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I think if they do not incorporate packages at some point, some sort of, let's get you involved in the Tasem Hill type of role, then you are sort of burning a roster spot.
• 1:40:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I understand the desire to have a guy that could develop and do this, but how do you shield them?
• 1:41:09
  [UNKNOWN]: You can't put them on the practice squad.
• 1:41:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe you can.
• 1:41:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe put them on the practice squad is who's the guy that got, I think he was, maybe he's a former Alabama quarterback
• 1:41:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe it wasn't.
• 1:41:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh John Milton Milton right I mean like maybe like it look it's like To these guys that like we latch on to that we get excited about that the do big things But they're not here and now I don't think the Panthers are burning a roster spot
• 1:41:49
  [UNKNOWN]: on the active 53 for next year.
• 1:41:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm not talking about like this year being a quarterback, but if you don't find a way to integrate him into some sort of offense, some sort of plays, he doesn't offer special teams ability.
• 1:42:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Not that he doesn't, like I'm sure he could.
• 1:42:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 1:42:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:42:17
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not what you're doing it for.
• 1:42:19
  [UNKNOWN]: If you're just sitting in there to run for rightness with you, I think you're wasting time and time, I don't think, and this is where I disagree with a lot of people that when you put your tweet out is like, we've been going back and forth, back and forth, I don't think that trying to bring Haynes King into this offense in some capacity.
• 1:42:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Whether it's that tastes him Hill role negates his development as a quarterback later.
• 1:42:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he could still develop as a quarterback.
• 1:42:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he could still be like, oh, we can still want that to happen.
• 1:42:58
  [UNKNOWN]: But let's fucking try to run this RPO or do this in this instance.
• 1:43:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying a gimmick, but if you kept him and you don't believe in him, you wasted a spot.
• 1:43:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, look, let's let Dan Morgan tell it.
• 1:43:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you have Dave Canalis's hands king answer, what do I actually do?
• 1:43:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I can pull that up.
• 1:43:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't have, I don't have any answer.
• 1:43:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I do, so I'll play that after.
• 1:43:25
  [UNKNOWN]: But this is what Dan Morgan had to say about hands king.
• 1:43:28
  [UNKNOWN]: And when you listen to the things that he has to say, it lets me know that they're going to be using him in some capacity this year.
• 1:43:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Besides increased season games, what made you feel a bit of pain's came to roster?
• 1:43:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think, you look at his athleticism and then seeing him out there on the field, you know, you watch his college state, you think he's just a runner, he's not just a runner, like he can sit in the pocket, he can process, he can get the ball up, if he knows where to go with the ball.
• 1:44:00
  [UNKNOWN]: And then I think you saw him in the,
• 1:44:02
  [UNKNOWN]: whole of the game, the way that he operated the offense, led the offense.
• 1:44:06
  [UNKNOWN]: We felt like he was a guy.
• 1:44:08
  [UNKNOWN]: We didn't want to expose to waivers.
• 1:44:11
  [UNKNOWN]: We didn't want to let somebody have the opportunity to get him.
• 1:44:15
  [UNKNOWN]: We, he's our type of guy, the type of guy that we want to work with and continue to develop.
• 1:44:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I was right on that, Cody, I just was not right on the how they would get there.
• 1:44:35
  [UNKNOWN]: How they would prevent him to getting to waivers.
• 1:44:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought they were going to try and put him on the eye or I was wrong.
• 1:44:42
  [UNKNOWN]: They did the active.
• 1:44:45
  [UNKNOWN]: But if you are going to have a third active quarterback,
• 1:44:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Which is fine, I guess.
• 1:44:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's fine, okay?
• 1:44:54
  [UNKNOWN]: But like, if we're in week four and we're struggling with offensive line depth or safety depth, pick your position and you have these hard line numbers that you have to work with, you would hate for them to have to
• 1:45:13
  [UNKNOWN]: move that then.
• 1:45:15
  [UNKNOWN]: And I, you know what I'm saying is like, oh, what we're trying to hope in that we can protect this player.
• 1:45:22
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think if you believe they have some sort of capacity to contribute now, you don't have that question is not as big.
• 1:45:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Does that make sense?
• 1:45:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I'm excited.
• 1:45:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, let's, I'm not hiding my cards here.
• 1:45:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm excited for what he can potentially be.
• 1:45:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Tony, you're saying that they could do both, they could play him and develop him as a quarterback.
• 1:45:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just curious enough.
• 1:45:50
  [UNKNOWN]: They're from what I'm saying.
• 1:45:51
  [UNKNOWN]: This I'm just saying knowing in what capacity has a quarterback.
• 1:45:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, are they developing?
• 1:45:58
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... a backup and again a lot of this is dependent upon brisial but uh... that was a interesting answers from day can now as well let's hear it at the same day three quarter back day three quarter back from the active rock through hands king being one of them we've talked about it all summer is their possibility where hands can have a couple plays a couple factors assigned to him
• 1:46:24
  [UNKNOWN]: where he can just kind of pop in on game day and make an impact for it at the end of on game board.
• 1:46:29
  [UNKNOWN]: So it has anything's possible.
• 1:46:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's it.
• 1:46:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, my god.
• 1:46:41
  [UNKNOWN]: There's more.
• 1:46:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's get it again.
• 1:46:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
• 1:46:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, Ted.
• 1:46:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Anything's fine.
• 1:46:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, this is more about it.
• 1:46:53
  [UNKNOWN]: This is the part that's more revealing.
• 1:46:55
  [UNKNOWN]: OK. Just want to make it, you know, and just talk a little bit about the names back in practice.
• 1:47:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:47:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:47:04
  [UNKNOWN]: That was a hard one for me.
• 1:47:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I've been in the world where we keep two on the roster.
• 1:47:08
  [UNKNOWN]: We have one on the practice squad that gives you roster flexibility.
• 1:47:12
  [UNKNOWN]: There's a linebacker you can keep a safety, a special teams player.
• 1:47:16
  [UNKNOWN]: You can keep if you go with two quarterbacks.
• 1:47:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and then he didn't play in any game except for the Hall of Fame game.
• 1:47:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, that was all wrong.
• 1:47:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Because y'all fucking shielded them, bitch.
• 1:47:25
  [UNKNOWN]: You showed enough to us in practice.
• 1:47:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, in the way he prepares the way he speaks the language, calls, plays, makes adjustments.
• 1:47:35
  [UNKNOWN]: This isn't a 22-year-old rookie.
• 1:47:36
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a 25-year-old.
• 1:47:39
  [UNKNOWN]: and with a real process for how he does it.
• 1:47:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Dad's a coach loves the game.
• 1:47:43
  [UNKNOWN]: All the things you would hope for from your third quarterback.
• 1:47:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And then on top of it, the physical ability, the possibility of using him in different ways.
• 1:47:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Just because he's a true 447 guy, you know, and has a lot of speed.
• 1:47:58
  [UNKNOWN]: which is also important.
• 1:47:59
  [UNKNOWN]: We make sure we remember he's that type of athlete and even just a soft tissue and you're like a hamstring happens when you're that fast and making sure that we're continuing to build them up the right way, not just as this pocket quarterback, but as an athlete in general.
• 1:48:13
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm glad to see her and I see a future for her hands in the NFL.
• 1:48:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't believe you, bro, around we want to be able to continue to be part of his development and we didn't really want to risk the possibility of him being able to go somewhere else helps someone else so we can be here developing him and bringing him more.
• 1:48:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Everything is said for the amorgon.
• 1:48:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Everything is said for the amorgon, everything is said for the amorgon, everything is said for the amorgon, everything is said for the amorgon, everything is said for the amorgon, everything is said for the amorgon, everything is said for the amorgon, everything is said for the amorgon, everything is said for the amorgon, everything is said for the amorgon, everything is said for the amorgon, everything is said for the amorgon, everything is said for the amorgon, everything is said for the amorgon, everything is said for the amorgon, everything is said for the amorgon, everything is said for the amorg
• 1:48:43
  [UNKNOWN]: that he has the ability to throw to all levels of the field.
• 1:48:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And that he is 25 years old.
• 1:48:50
  [UNKNOWN]: He represented a package of a player that they couldn't just let me handle and go to some other team and be the legitimate option for somewhere else.
• 1:49:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Their starter gets her.
• 1:49:02
  [UNKNOWN]: He comes in and balls the fuck out and then we have egg on our face for letting them go.
• 1:49:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Who wants it anymore?
• 1:49:13
  [UNKNOWN]: who wants it more, who wanted hands king on this active roster more?
• 1:49:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Dan Morgan or Dave Cannellas?
• 1:49:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I can, Dan Morgan was the kind of vote.
• 1:49:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think Final vote, I think he was the vote.
• 1:49:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't find anything that Dave Cannellas said really exciting about.
• 1:49:35
  [UNKNOWN]: what he thinks unless he's just trying to hide it like he's playing poker face no he's wearing this long-brand long-brand hat looks like he got a duck bill on his fucking head.
• 1:49:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I know I don't think this was Dave Canales and I also don't think that Dave Canales is seeing the potential gear.
• 1:49:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean maybe he doesn't want to undermine Bryce I could see that but no he was like
• 1:50:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I don't want to do this, but I guess we have to, because I'm sorry, I'm not, I'm walking away.
• 1:50:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Ted Lacer right here did not convince me that he was in love with keep in.
• 1:50:14
  [UNKNOWN]: He's the one that I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted
• 1:50:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is he was like, no, it's like, um, I guess we could have had another player.
• 1:50:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't feel like he felt vested or excited for him.
• 1:50:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I think and saying all of those things that normally I don't run with more than two quarterbacks because of a landback or because of a special teamer.
• 1:50:47
  [UNKNOWN]: the reason why we kept hands king was because he represented too much of a total package for us just to be able to let go play it one more time play it let's play it one more time and then we'll let y'all decide in the comments we won't talk about it anymore is Dave can now
• 1:51:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Just want to make it, you know, and just to talk a little bit about how to have any back practice.
• 1:51:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was a hard one for me.
• 1:51:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I've been in the world where we keep two on the roster.
• 1:51:33
  [UNKNOWN]: We have one on the practice squad that gives you roster flexibility.
• 1:51:36
  [UNKNOWN]: There's a linebacker you can keep a safety, a special teams player you can keep if you go with two quarterbacks.
• 1:51:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and then he didn't play in any game except for the Hall of Fame game.
• 1:51:46
  [UNKNOWN]: So that was a good one.
• 1:51:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I want him, bro.
• 1:51:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, he went to the end as much as the most important.
• 1:51:53
  [UNKNOWN]: In the way he prepares the way he speaks the language, calls, plays, makes adjustments.
• 1:51:59
  [UNKNOWN]: This isn't a 20.
• 1:52:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Makes adjustments.
• 1:52:01
  [UNKNOWN]: 25 year old.
• 1:52:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And it was a main process for how he does it.
• 1:52:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Dad's a coach loves the game.
• 1:52:08
  [UNKNOWN]: All the things you would hope for from your third quarterback.
• 1:52:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And then on top of it, the physical ability, the possibility of using him in different ways.
• 1:52:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Just because he's a true 447 guy, you know, and has a lot of speed.
• 1:52:22
  [UNKNOWN]: which is also important.
• 1:52:23
  [UNKNOWN]: We make sure we remember he's that type of athlete and even just a soft tissue and you're like a hamstring happens when you're that fast and making sure that we're continuing to build him up the right way, not just as this pocket quarterback but as an athlete in general.
• 1:52:37
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm glad he's here and I see a future for her hands in the NFL and we wanted to have him around.
• 1:52:45
  [UNKNOWN]: We wanted to be able to continue to be part of his development and we didn't really
• 1:52:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, help someone else so we can be here developing him and bringing him along.
• 1:52:56
  [UNKNOWN]: They didn't want him somewhere else.
• 1:52:58
  [UNKNOWN]: They wanted him on the Carolina Panthers roster.
• 1:53:02
  [UNKNOWN]: That was that.
• 1:53:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Those were damn Morgan's words for those were not him.
• 1:53:08
  [UNKNOWN]: he started out with all the reason all that though why didn't then Morgan said that then because look he said this is what's happening and and Dave canal says to deal with the roster that he built I'm sorry is I don't believe that Dave canalist is fucking hands king train like train right now
• 1:53:37
  [UNKNOWN]: God, the quarterback is gone, the kid that kid refused to lose a year ago, and he was definitely a difference maker.
• 1:53:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he had a book 40 Russian, something like that.
• 1:53:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't be the sixth.
• 1:53:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you for checking me.
• 1:53:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to be several, I want to 40.
• 1:53:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Now we see it was 140.
• 1:53:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Great team domain.
• 1:54:01
  [UNKNOWN]: So he said Haynes King refused to lose this is happening man.
• 1:54:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm excited, you know Tony, how about this?
• 1:54:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's called this comment, that's all what regardless of who's right or wrong
• 1:54:18
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a good thing to have him.
• 1:54:19
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not about being right or wrong.
• 1:54:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not trying to be right or wrong.
• 1:54:23
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the thing.
• 1:54:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to get insight into what we can glean from these conversations.
• 1:54:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Charles says this day.
• 1:54:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they did want him for better off for having him on this day.
• 1:54:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Now I agree.
• 1:54:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't disagree with that is Charles Xavier says this.
• 1:54:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Dave has this poker face on right now.
• 1:54:44
  [UNKNOWN]: He can't come out and speak too highly of hands king.
• 1:54:47
  [UNKNOWN]: So he has to act like he's not that interested when in reality his overjoyed Dave knows that.
• 1:54:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I hope that is truly the case.
• 1:54:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 1:54:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I hope that he is pulling the Sean Payton who was trying to convince Sean Payton.
• 1:55:03
  [UNKNOWN]: There's a saw a video recently that Sean Payton was puffing up JJ.
• 1:55:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Who's the guy that is a quarterback for the Vikings JJ?
• 1:55:17
  [UNKNOWN]: and he really wanted Bownex.
• 1:55:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And he was like, I was actively doing that.
• 1:55:24
  [UNKNOWN]: If Dave Canalis is doing Sliderhand here, I'm very excited.
• 1:55:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I just don't know if Dave truly is like, I want to find a way
• 1:55:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not even trying to develop this kid right now.
• 1:55:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Develop him later.
• 1:55:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, let's run some RPOs and some funky, funky shit.
• 1:55:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's do some things every now and then that throw some people off, he can run, he can pass.
• 1:55:53
  [UNKNOWN]: You can put...
• 1:55:56
  [UNKNOWN]: you can basically do a trick play without doing a trick play in certain circumstances.
• 1:56:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I just want to know, is Dave Canales as committed to this?
• 1:56:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Or is it Dan Morgan that is committed?
• 1:56:09
  [UNKNOWN]: We will find out when I listen to that.
• 1:56:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, what is it?
• 1:56:13
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a curve ball Tony.
• 1:56:14
  [UNKNOWN]: What if it's Brad
• 1:56:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and watch out Dave can now as Brad is it coming for your job, but are we going to the next slide or are we coming to the next call coming to the next call, that's weird.
• 1:56:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Are we going to the next call.
• 1:56:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's another call.
• 1:56:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey, guys, the girl makes them out at the age of the blood and panthers and I want to talk about.
• 1:56:50
  [UNKNOWN]: 1 Kings King and the Panthers in general well I was in Raleigh and I was more interested in hugging women than the Panthers
• 1:57:13
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, last preseason game, not playing anybody.
• 1:57:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And it was kind of a flood fest.
• 1:57:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And I mean, to be honest with you, it will require some of the Panther's games that like, we had no business winnings, but we'd run, we'd truck ourselves, we'd kind of refuse to pay it.
• 1:57:29
  [UNKNOWN]: My daddy was giving me updates, but I was walking with one of said women that I got to meet.
• 1:57:44
  [UNKNOWN]: She asked me how these entrepreneurs are going to do, and I said, well, we have a great wide receiver room.
• 1:57:52
  [UNKNOWN]: We have exciting new draft picks.
• 1:57:54
  [UNKNOWN]: We have exciting free age, exciting findings, but we still have Bryce.
• 1:58:00
  [UNKNOWN]: And Bryce is, and then she stopped me, and no joke this
• 1:58:08
  [UNKNOWN]: hot chick this like 35-year-old woman I have so much always like his ortals like yeah and his question mark in proportion is way bigger than his relative height on the field and I was like damn you really went there she said yeah Bryce has a
• 1:58:38
  [UNKNOWN]: And I say, yep, exactly, that's what I say.
• 1:58:40
  [UNKNOWN]: You still have Bryce, and if Bryce is shit in the bed, why not put Hayne's came in?
• 1:58:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, can he pick it his life?
• 1:58:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Did Joey be the one in Bryce's mind?
• 1:58:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you have to put Hayne's came in.
• 1:58:56
  [UNKNOWN]: If you say, if you believe your season was fucked up by, you have to put him in a line that just a hair.
• 1:59:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Wait with the house.
• 1:59:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Wow.
• 1:59:05
  [UNKNOWN]: He says she's hot.
• 1:59:07
  [UNKNOWN]: It's way bigger than his relative joke.
• 1:59:11
  [UNKNOWN]: But more hot shit, this like 35 year old woman who's like, if his hell is like,
• 1:59:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and he's stopping right there.
• 1:59:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Stop it there.
• 1:59:24
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:59:40
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what Joey is saying.
• 1:59:41
  [UNKNOWN]: He meant one of Bryce's pumping dumps and saying my man's had a third leg.
• 1:59:47
  [UNKNOWN]: A feeling that's what I just heard Joey said.
• 1:59:50
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I heard this.
• 1:59:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I heard with definitive, um, like such confidence that this girl was hot.
• 2:00:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Like he said, this girl, this woman was not girl.
• 2:00:04
  [UNKNOWN]: He said 35.
• 2:00:05
  [UNKNOWN]: They love them.
• 2:00:06
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:07
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:07
  [UNKNOWN]: He's the woman.
• 2:00:08
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:09
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:10
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:10
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:11
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:11
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:12
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:13
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:13
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:14
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:14
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:15
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:16
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:16
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:17
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:18
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:20
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:23
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:23
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:26
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the woman.
• 2:00:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he has to be like, I mean, I mean, I can go with people look like and just let me see so hot.
• 2:00:35
  [UNKNOWN]: He's like, oh, her hips.
• 2:00:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, Joe is the fan.
• 2:00:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, come on, I mean, I'm going to say I could be more like Joey man.
• 2:00:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, but it's the so, so definitively to say this woman.
• 2:00:50
  [UNKNOWN]: He said a girl.
• 2:00:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, you a man, she is a woman, but he says she is undeniably hot, and I'll like to think about as a blind person figure out how you're thinking about Joey and like the actual mechanics of him talking to a hot woman.
• 2:01:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm thinking of the fact that he met a woman that said friends you don't has a big dick.
• 2:01:13
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not what you said.
• 2:01:16
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, I feel like I want to play this again.
• 2:01:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Play it again.
• 2:01:21
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not worth it.
• 2:01:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Listen, though.
• 2:01:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:01:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Is.
• 2:01:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And then she stopped me and no joke, this hot chick, this like 35 year old woman.
• 2:01:43
  [UNKNOWN]: And his question mark in proportion is way bigger than his relative height on the field.
• 2:01:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And I was like, oh, you really went there and tell him, yeah, okay, now I get it.
• 2:01:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce has a 65 question mark.
• 2:02:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And I say, yep, exactly.
• 2:02:05
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what I say.
• 2:02:05
  [UNKNOWN]: You still have a madman score for his sexy.
• 2:02:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I like the shit in the bed.
• 2:02:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I have 92.
• 2:02:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Why not put him in the team?
• 2:02:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, can he pick it or like?
• 2:02:16
  [UNKNOWN]: That is the same as mine.
• 2:02:18
  [UNKNOWN]: You have to put him in the team.
• 2:02:21
  [UNKNOWN]: If you say, if you boom, you're still in the truck, you have to play.
• 2:02:26
  [UNKNOWN]: But Tony, I got this a prize for you because there's another one.
• 2:02:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Painted y'all said, I thought Joey's blind.
• 2:02:33
  [UNKNOWN]: How does she know he's hot?
• 2:02:34
  [UNKNOWN]: That's right.
• 2:02:35
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what we want to know is does she bring that brown face or did he do the braille test?
• 2:02:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me feel your face.
• 2:02:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:02:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, oh, you're pretty.
• 2:02:46
  [UNKNOWN]: That would be.
• 2:02:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I need to know who I'm talking about.
• 2:02:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, wait a second.
• 2:02:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I need to know if you're hot.
• 2:02:52
  [UNKNOWN]: That's all around.
• 2:02:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And of course I can't tell you, it's all around.
• 2:02:55
  [UNKNOWN]: But hold on.
• 2:02:56
  [UNKNOWN]: He's very, that's the whole with another one.
• 2:02:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, let me come home.
• 2:02:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I can't even tell you what the boy and Panther call it back again, because there is another part of what I wanted to say about Haynes King.
• 2:03:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, that conversation on the streets of Raleigh being had.
• 2:03:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And that being said in our lack of confidence in Bryce.
• 2:03:15
  [UNKNOWN]: We have seen an incredibly small sample size of Haynes King.
• 2:03:20
  [UNKNOWN]: And that sample size was against.
• 2:03:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Guys that you'll be at Harris Theater in two weeks and say I got the meat and then a bell player because you've got your fucking grocery.
• 2:03:32
  [UNKNOWN]: That being said, he looked awesome.
• 2:03:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, according to what Jim Zokie was telling me, names can had a hell of a game.
• 2:03:44
  [UNKNOWN]: So much so that they did the IR stash on him.
• 2:03:50
  [UNKNOWN]: But Bryce has a lot of things to do with him again.
• 2:03:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And then why are you playing?
• 2:03:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to think about it.
• 2:03:56
  [UNKNOWN]: He played, I don't know if he's played all 30, all 31 other teams.
• 2:04:02
  [UNKNOWN]: But he definitely has had more regular season experience than Haines King.
• 2:04:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Now that being said, if Haines King were able to get that type of experience, he would
• 2:04:19
  [UNKNOWN]: that that's just a fact.
• 2:04:21
  [UNKNOWN]: The price here on doesn't look cool doing anything.
• 2:04:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:29
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• 2:04:29
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• 2:04:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:31
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• 2:04:31
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• 2:04:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:04:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Wow, wow, wow, wow.
• 2:04:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to tell you something.
• 2:04:49
  [UNKNOWN]: This pepper that I got in my blood, it came from a family tree.
• 2:04:52
  [UNKNOWN]: My granddaddy was a pin.
• 2:04:54
  [UNKNOWN]: My great, great, great granddaddy was a pin.
• 2:04:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm talking about pepper, then since pepper, since pepper, since pepper, it's singing blood.
• 2:05:00
  [UNKNOWN]: It's in my blood, it's in my blood.
• 2:05:02
  [UNKNOWN]: It's in my blood, it's in my blood, it's in my blood.
• 2:05:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Bloodline, Joey, cut, Lord.
• 2:05:07
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, Kevin, you know, so Joey is still alive.
• 2:05:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Greatest call of all time.
• 2:05:13
  [UNKNOWN]: And Bryce, nine plus.
• 2:05:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, we're going to begin into the late hours of the pod.
• 2:05:23
  [UNKNOWN]: That's when we go with it, but we weren't even trying to go that.
• 2:05:29
  [UNKNOWN]: We're like, can it get 200 yards?
• 2:05:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And this mug is like, yes, he can deep plunger.
• 2:05:38
  [UNKNOWN]: here we go.
• 2:05:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go next.
• 2:05:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's our final.
• 2:05:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, now we got a final call.
• 2:05:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Still a little time if you guys get in there.
• 2:05:48
  [UNKNOWN]: But let's rock through Dave canalists to climb to specify why Jonathan Brooks was held on a practice.
• 2:05:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Very juicy juicy headline.
• 2:06:00
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think there's a lot
• 2:06:04
  [UNKNOWN]: heard was dealing with sorness Cody is the headline match the story.
• 2:06:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, I made the reason why it's so scary is because Jonathan Brooks has come in off of the two seasons of ADCL tears, you know, so that's what, you know, it gives people pause.
• 2:06:23
  [UNKNOWN]: But according to the article, when it comes to running back Jonathan Brooks, Caroline, the Panther fans man to hold their breath for the next few days, Brooks and the first practice after the teams cut down to their initial 53 man roster has been working off to the side with Trainers on Tuesday.
• 2:06:38
  [UNKNOWN]: That of course is in the greatest
• 2:06:41
  [UNKNOWN]: The 23-year-old is devastating injury history, and Coach Dave Canales was asked about Brooks following this morning session.
• 2:06:48
  [UNKNOWN]: For sessions, JP got a little soreness.
• 2:06:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Canales target reporters.
• 2:06:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I won't get into specifics right now.
• 2:06:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Again, that may put a scare into Carolina's painful, considering him books past.
• 2:07:00
  [UNKNOWN]: The third year back has been limited to just three career games.
• 2:07:04
  [UNKNOWN]: as a result of two ACL tears and to me like the answer is it's right there in the front of you if he's a little bit sore you're going to take every single precaution to make sure that it's ready to play come regular season football.
• 2:07:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, it is absolutely imperative that John's in Brooks State and healthy, you know, in the same manner, Tony, that we talk about Bryce Y'all needing to have it great here for the Panthers.
• 2:07:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Jonathan Brooks is in the same boat.
• 2:07:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, it's not because his play has been up to poor, but his availability has not been up to poor, and unlike Thomas Davis before him, who at least had some play to fall back on,
• 2:07:48
  [UNKNOWN]: before he took the first time.
• 2:07:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Jonathan Brooks has essentially no sample size.
• 2:07:55
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's no reason for Carolina to have a commitment to him in light of another ACL Tair.
• 2:08:02
  [UNKNOWN]: His career is essentially writing on the 2020's sixties.
• 2:08:08
  [UNKNOWN]: ultimately you're right there's nothing to argue with that is this year has to be his year to ultimately show that like look is you can deal with injury and you can be a productive player and hopefully a star.
• 2:08:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not I'm not worried about
• 2:08:30
  [UNKNOWN]: any of this unless it's a major injury except for one thing is it can now I said I won't get into specifics.
• 2:08:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm Jonathan Brooks fucking Stomper here, man.
• 2:08:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I think it's going to pay off.
• 2:08:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm willing to wait and pay the cost that we did.
• 2:08:55
  [UNKNOWN]: The idea that you say it's, I don't want to get this specifics.
• 2:08:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like you just say, and I read somewhere else, soreness at one article, but I saw that too when it came to Dan Waller or somebody else.
• 2:09:14
  [UNKNOWN]: It was, um,
• 2:09:17
  [UNKNOWN]: another player that was honored like is if you don't say just like oh it's like kindness orness when you say I don't want to get into specifics are you deflecting you know like you can't say something misleading like just say I would prefer them to say
• 2:09:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to get into specifics, makes me, I want to say concern, but like, geez.
• 2:09:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, oh, Devon Lloyd.
• 2:09:56
  [UNKNOWN]: How about that?
• 2:09:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Devon Lloyd coming off of that preseason game, that second preseason or whatever, third for us where they played them.
• 2:10:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you remember Devon Lloyd?
• 2:10:05
  [UNKNOWN]: He had the joint practices with Jacksonville.
• 2:10:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And they're like, oh, it's not practicing.
• 2:10:11
  [UNKNOWN]: He's dealing with soreness.
• 2:10:13
  [UNKNOWN]: He'll be fine for a week one.
• 2:10:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I'm like, oh, God, I don't want him to be dealing with shit.
• 2:10:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I want him to be the fucking man.
• 2:10:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't this quote right here does not lend to that and I need fucking Jonathan Brooks to be the fucking bizom this year, so I don't like this.
• 2:10:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I wish he would just say, why did he say I won't get into specifics, Cody, that's the part that's not a little bit fucking deal.
• 2:10:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, but again, I also think he just doesn't want people speculating as to how he's injured so that way it doesn't get, you know, we just want to go to the park.
• 2:11:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:11:02
  [UNKNOWN]: If it's not a big deal, that's what you would say, right?
• 2:11:05
  [UNKNOWN]: So did you feel like it?
• 2:11:07
  [UNKNOWN]: There's a big deal when you're trying to like, downplay it or what, what, what, what, what, what, what, I'm, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I
• 2:11:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, so it's not like we're this from a panther pulse I think okay, all right, well then let's then let's provide some context there, but this was what can Alice said though
• 2:11:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, but maybe there was other statements that surrounded it that gave it some context.
• 2:11:55
  [UNKNOWN]: But if you're just saying, oh, man, people are dealing with, but you work out, you fucking are sore, like, there's no need for us to do walkthroughs, that's fine.
• 2:12:07
  [UNKNOWN]: But if your only statement was, I won't get into specifics right now.
• 2:12:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like this is an incomplete quote and I'm going to call up the internet right now.
• 2:12:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Cody, we got to find our source right now and chastize them.
• 2:12:27
  [UNKNOWN]: That's it.
• 2:12:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, there was more to the article.
• 2:12:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, not to the article, but like how are they using these quotes to manufacture interest?
• 2:12:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess is my question because if you are just saying, I won't get into specifics, but he's sore.
• 2:12:48
  [UNKNOWN]: He cut that off.
• 2:12:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:12:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I saw this is that Devon Wood.
• 2:12:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm going to find it.
• 2:12:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to find the rest of it.
• 2:12:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 2:13:00
  [UNKNOWN]: but keep talking to me this week tonight says this no that's exactly what he said so then i am i would say worried but yeah i am because we need johnson Brooks to fucking hit this year we don't need we've we've gambled on him so we might be able to find the full audio to this
• 2:13:23
  [UNKNOWN]: But the idea is, it was this a slip-up by Dave Canales, too, is like, why don't you just say, yeah, I mean, the article doesn't have the rest of its quote.
• 2:13:34
  [UNKNOWN]: If you give me a second, I'll just see if I can find what you said on Twitter.
• 2:13:38
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:13:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I am interested in this.
• 2:13:41
  [UNKNOWN]: My question being as this is that the Panthers have invested a lot in Jonathan Brooks.
• 2:13:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I am the biggest Jonathan Brooks fan around like find a motherfucker that likes him more than me and believes in more than him than me.
• 2:14:00
  [UNKNOWN]: These injuries have been detrimental.
• 2:14:04
  [UNKNOWN]: You jump like you kind of superseded the cowboys.
• 2:14:08
  [UNKNOWN]: You draft a player coming off an injury.
• 2:14:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe Miss Handel that maybe you didn't.
• 2:14:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Finally, Jonathan Brooks finally saw his first training camp ever.
• 2:14:20
  [UNKNOWN]: His first pads before a game day.
• 2:14:23
  [UNKNOWN]: When he was in a game, he looked really good.
• 2:14:27
  [UNKNOWN]: But the Carolina Panthers were actively rostered three running bags.
• 2:14:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Chubahub or Jonathan Brooks and AJ Dillon and then the question is, is how much him not practicing, I'm proud.
• 2:14:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't have a problem with him not practicing.
• 2:14:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't have a problem with him.
• 2:14:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we need to be safe with it.
• 2:14:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, there is no video of it.
• 2:14:56
  [UNKNOWN]: There's no video of it, but they're all just saying that he's not going into due tails.
• 2:15:02
  [UNKNOWN]: So basically, however it is just as hard as we thought it was to not do this and maybe we're more parsed and you know what this is what the internet does this is what podcast like us do maybe we are parsing words sleep tight tonight says there is a video of it oh my god send us a link with the timestamp and we will play it
• 2:15:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Happily I will play it straight up is I just would rather see him dealing with soreness and we're not fucking practicing him rather than the statement of I don't want to get into the details of it or whatever it was.
• 2:15:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody where we go in next as hopefully sleep tight tonight sends us the link with the
• 2:15:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, you also have the video up, uh, it sucks, Panthers, uh, the YouTube page.
• 2:16:06
  [UNKNOWN]: They timestamped all of Dan Morgan's, uh, but not Dave can out.
• 2:16:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've got Dave can out, but he didn't mention, he did not mention, um, Jonathan Brooks in today's press conference.
• 2:16:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I watch it.
• 2:16:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Tell us somewhere else all of the heart of this that may be a miss of Joe person.
• 2:16:29
  [UNKNOWN]: But no, he's not going to us anymore.
• 2:16:32
  [UNKNOWN]: My, my K says Jonathan Brooks or so, but Dave can Alice doesn't want to get into injuries.
• 2:16:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, Daniel Stein, so it seems like a sore, but doesn't want to get into it.
• 2:16:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Why don't you just, Dave can now is quash this shit and just say he's sore and we're giving him some time off.
• 2:16:51
  [UNKNOWN]: We want him to be fucking fresh.
• 2:16:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Miss handling, I would say this is a miss handling by Dave can now.
• 2:17:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's then, if that is the case, let's keep going through.
• 2:17:04
  [UNKNOWN]: We still have a couple of things to do.
• 2:17:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Is it, are this where we at?
• 2:17:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:17:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, oh God.
• 2:17:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I got to you got to carry us for a second.
• 2:17:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Tell us Did you see this video?
• 2:17:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Brett Coleman did uh, his, um, bootleg, uh, football podcast, and they're going through every single team, uh, they are.
• 2:17:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And do you like him?
• 2:17:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he's incredible.
• 2:17:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Join him.
• 2:17:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you remember a long time ago we had Brett Coleman on the podcast?
• 2:17:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I do.
• 2:17:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I do.
• 2:17:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And I almost was questioning if we did.
• 2:17:43
  [UNKNOWN]: No, we did, we did, they did a video.
• 2:17:48
  [UNKNOWN]: It was like right after Christian McAfrey arrived and that was a video at Reinterview Brett Coleman.
• 2:17:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I was new on the podcast, so it was like,
• 2:17:59
  [UNKNOWN]: early in 19th year.
• 2:18:00
  [UNKNOWN]: And he was new to the internet.
• 2:18:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Very smart.
• 2:18:03
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:18:04
  [UNKNOWN]: So let's set this up as Brett Coleman and the Boot led podcast is going through every team, kind of talking about what they had last year, what they're going into this year.
• 2:18:15
  [UNKNOWN]: But the name of the video and let me find it real quick.
• 2:18:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Excuse me, is somebody the panthers are gonna panther?
• 2:18:29
  [UNKNOWN]: It like fuck guys All right, I'm gonna sort of paraphrase a little bit of what he said
• 2:18:43
  [UNKNOWN]: that the Panthers are one is that they're good at limiting your possessions that your opposing team gets and the Panthers are good at dragging you into hell and making you play ugly football and they're better at it than you are.
• 2:19:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, the name of the show was you can't out panther the panthers, right, and it had a lot of hits, all right, let me do this is I can share Hopefully take this down.
• 2:19:16
  [UNKNOWN]: So like remember this, those stats, I think I can share this audio in this way.
• 2:19:26
  [UNKNOWN]: on chairs.
• 2:19:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Is it screen time window number just share a tab if you haven't or is it a window or isn't it?
• 2:19:39
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, so you have to if you can hear this.
• 2:19:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Nope, I can't hear that.
• 2:19:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't want to hear that.
• 2:19:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I can share it this way.
• 2:19:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
• 2:20:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought that we did this last week and I got it to work.
• 2:20:27
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:20:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, anyway, I hate to say this.
• 2:20:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Actually, I want to say this.
• 2:20:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I think everybody should go and watch this video.
• 2:20:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's fine.
• 2:20:39
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not fine.
• 2:20:40
  [UNKNOWN]: It's fucking terrible.
• 2:20:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Gosh, how am I?
• 2:20:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe I'm not.
• 2:20:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Hold on.
• 2:20:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to...
• 2:20:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me try one other way real quick.
• 2:21:05
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, I'm looking at Jonathan Brooks's.
• 2:21:13
  [UNKNOWN]: So, okay, they're also asking about Bobby Brown's injury, and they just said, Dave Canal is just said, he's not gonna go into detail on any injury that the Panthers are, players are going right now.
• 2:21:28
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, let me summarize this real quick for us.
• 2:21:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And then we, because we weren't, we're trying to be respectful of people's content too.
• 2:21:40
  [UNKNOWN]: So we're not just trying to like play their content over and over.
• 2:21:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, help me out, name it a podcast.
• 2:21:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you like football?
• 2:21:50
  [UNKNOWN]: But like football, they put up this stat like they how they assessed teams and they do like EPA this EPA like they're super smart right and the Panthers were terrible in every fucking component like awful.
• 2:22:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Remember a couple weeks ago when the ESPN article or something came out and said that the Panthers were the worst in the division due to their DVOA rankings.
• 2:22:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:22:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, the brand Coleman essentially said the same thing.
• 2:22:28
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I never don't know much Cody that he was at, um, who's the guy that used to, he was a starting quarterback from New England and then he went to San Francisco.
• 2:22:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, it's kind of chubby white kid quarterback.
• 2:22:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Matt Jones Matt and he's like, Matt Jen to better numbers, Matt Jen's at better numbers than price.
• 2:22:54
  [UNKNOWN]: right and I came out like they said this is ultimately their conclusion was is how did the Panthers actually win as many games as they did with the stats that they put up.
• 2:23:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Like it was, it was really a hard listen in a good way.
• 2:23:17
  [UNKNOWN]: They were not disrespectful in a sense, but their argument was, is like, the panthers were not good at anything.
• 2:23:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Nothing, but what they were good at was limiting possessions.
• 2:23:33
  [UNKNOWN]: and trying to drag you into the mug and hope and pray that they could find a way in the second half to get one extra possession or turn over that can flip the time.
• 2:23:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean the stats are very disheartening, but they were also like they were very complimentary of the coaching staff
• 2:24:04
  [UNKNOWN]: is to drag you down into the mud, they said this at one point is that the panters are good at one thing bad football and they are better at bad football than you are.
• 2:24:20
  [UNKNOWN]: So they try to make you play bad football.
• 2:24:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Now I'm really upset because again we've been scrambled and trying to do so much.
• 2:24:30
  [UNKNOWN]: in the last seconds and I was hoping that this audio ready will play it later next week maybe.
• 2:24:39
  [UNKNOWN]: But the idea was, is this, is that they came out of here saying, they were very complimentary coating of the coaching staff.
• 2:24:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I was like, hey, it's like you didn't try to get cooler than you were.
• 2:24:51
  [UNKNOWN]: You just tried to fucking drag people down.
• 2:24:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And if we are gonna win, this is how we're gonna win.
• 2:24:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Ground impounds, it's gonna be ugly.
• 2:25:01
  [UNKNOWN]: We'll probably lose, but this is the only way we can win.
• 2:25:05
  [UNKNOWN]: But the last component they were very complimentary about the Panthers all season, but they did a ceiling and a floor of winds, right, and the ceiling for both of them was 10.
• 2:25:22
  [UNKNOWN]: and the floor variegated between seven and six, but their argument was like, look, as you've gotten better as a team, but if you said you won eight games last year, you actually should have won eight games.
• 2:25:37
  [UNKNOWN]: You threaded the needle.
• 2:25:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And my question is, I don't know if it's a question, I wish we could have listened to it all together.
• 2:25:45
  [UNKNOWN]: We'd have added a whole hour to the podcast, probably, but,
• 2:25:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Are we overexcited about this fanther's theme?
• 2:25:53
  [UNKNOWN]: The fans, the variants can flip.
• 2:25:57
  [UNKNOWN]: The things can flip, but the panthers basically should not have had eight wins last year is there.
• 2:26:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I know.
• 2:26:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Listen, we were backward into the playoffs by the Atlanta Falcons.
• 2:26:09
  [UNKNOWN]: That is a real thing that happened, and I got a bunch of shit at the time because I was like, I don't want it.
• 2:26:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to go to a fucking place.
• 2:26:17
  [UNKNOWN]: That was me.
• 2:26:19
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what I said.
• 2:26:20
  [UNKNOWN]: That was me.
• 2:26:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I said that.
• 2:26:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I did not want to go.
• 2:26:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe you said it.
• 2:26:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I know I said it too.
• 2:26:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I got a lot of shit online for saying it.
• 2:26:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want something that I didn't earn.
• 2:26:30
  [UNKNOWN]: That's just something that I feel in life, just in general, myself and Tony, so of course we're excited about Panther football because it's back and we fucking love our Panthers and we want to see what this team can do.
• 2:26:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And we did win the division, I'll be with a caveat like being pushed into the playoffs.
• 2:26:51
  [UNKNOWN]: We did, man.
• 2:26:52
  [UNKNOWN]: But the other people lost it.
• 2:26:55
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm saying when was it but all of the record not since we ended up winning and we ended up bringing the Los Angeles Rams To the very end of the game giving them as much as they could handle so I think that is why we're so hopeful Seeing what we were able to do to achieve like the Rams, but Tony I feel like I said it to you at the start of every year
• 2:27:21
  [UNKNOWN]: It's prove it, season big dog.
• 2:27:24
  [UNKNOWN]: It's prove it, season.
• 2:27:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm done with the, I'm done with the will they won't they?
• 2:27:29
  [UNKNOWN]: All the Carolina Panthers, you know, that there might be just good enough.
• 2:27:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm done with that, shit.
• 2:27:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm done with bad to mini yogurt football.
• 2:27:42
  [UNKNOWN]: There's no more excuses for Bryce y'all, there's no more excuses for a zero-of-a-varrow, whether and whether or not they can have this, there's no more excuses for him for this organization from top to bottom.
• 2:27:57
  [UNKNOWN]: There's no more excuses to be had.
• 2:28:00
  [UNKNOWN]: It's time to go out there and fucking earn this shit.
• 2:28:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I can feel like our roster is set up in a good way where we have the ability to do that.
• 2:28:11
  [UNKNOWN]: It's better.
• 2:28:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I think what they weren't trying to say and I think this was a very
• 2:28:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, all the things, if you look at the statistics, the what you did well, what you didn't do well, they were a bottom, they were bottom at every fucking category.
• 2:28:37
  [UNKNOWN]: possible.
• 2:28:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Like the fact that they got eight wins is fucking incredible.
• 2:28:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And they celebrated that about Dave canal, like it's like, oh, well, this is what we have to do.
• 2:28:48
  [UNKNOWN]: We got to drag you into the mud, limit positions in the hope we're here at the end and take up all the clock and do all this.
• 2:28:56
  [UNKNOWN]: They said this is that the Panthers are good at playing bad football
• 2:29:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I think there is a good point to this is that looking at eight wins as a baseline for improvement or going down might be exaggerated.
• 2:29:21
  [UNKNOWN]: is like we could get better right we've made the roster better people can play better if we get nine wins we truly probably were a six win team last year and we eaked out some weird of fucking wins that we should have so i think their point was this is like don't look at it a regression if you win nine games
• 2:29:47
  [UNKNOWN]: you know is like you were he actually overperformed.
• 2:29:51
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, we'll get more.
• 2:29:53
  [UNKNOWN]: We'll get deeper into that next week.
• 2:29:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to try to have Ricky Reigns on if not the week after we're going to be bringing you a lot of hot content when it comes to Carolina Panthers.
• 2:30:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Football season abounds us Cody and things are cooking.
• 2:30:11
  [UNKNOWN]: We're excited.
• 2:30:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm excited.
• 2:30:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm excited.
• 2:30:16
  [UNKNOWN]: We are at the end of the show though.
• 2:30:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's finish it out now The final segment is when we ice someone up tough it tell them to toughen up get it together It's our homage to Steve Smith.
• 2:30:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Why don't we ice him fool's up?
• 2:30:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's do it toughen up Get your act together Hi, so I saw I saw
• 2:30:45
  [UNKNOWN]: It's our homage to Steve Smith where we tell someone to ice up tough enough to get it together.
• 2:30:50
  [UNKNOWN]: It's our opportunity to step outside the bounds of football if we want.
• 2:30:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Or we can stick inside the lines if we want we tell someone to toughen up to get it together.
• 2:31:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, do you got an ice up pick for me tonight?
• 2:31:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like we might have the same warm.
• 2:31:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Nah, probably not.
• 2:31:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, where you want to go first?
• 2:31:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, oh, well, then now I said probably not.
• 2:31:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I say it with confidence.
• 2:31:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I can go.
• 2:31:18
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not it's a part.
• 2:31:19
  [UNKNOWN]: No, here.
• 2:31:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to ice up this.
• 2:31:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I get hold on.
• 2:31:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I make sure the audio is turned down.
• 2:31:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Present.
• 2:31:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I believe this is real of everything I've seen says it's real.
• 2:31:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm not going to show them.
• 2:31:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Then you're not going to see it, but this person ran out in, I guess I initially thought they were trying to stop the airplane.
• 2:31:57
  [UNKNOWN]: But no, they were trying to stop their life, bro.
• 2:32:01
  [UNKNOWN]: And this is walking.
• 2:32:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I would just say look at the person like these people with the vest on so this I guess he's trying to stop this airplane look at this that guy why don't throw I'm icing you up if you it doesn't seem like they tried very hard to stop it
• 2:32:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, what can you do?
• 2:32:31
  [UNKNOWN]: What can you do?
• 2:32:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:32:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:32:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I tackle him.
• 2:32:36
  [UNKNOWN]: He's, don't throw yourself into a fucking wind turbine.
• 2:32:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Airplane, fucking engine.
• 2:32:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that's like, we've, I will say he had seen videos of what happens to birds, but I was not, ugh, ice up.
• 2:32:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't jump into an engine.
• 2:32:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I can do this with this ship makes me fun.
• 2:33:02
  [UNKNOWN]: This makes me laugh This is funny.
• 2:33:05
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not even a real.
• 2:33:07
  [UNKNOWN]: This is not I said, but it's just like There we go.
• 2:33:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I like this It's a kind of make it bigger.
• 2:33:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, how do you make it bigger when it's giant?
• 2:33:25
  [UNKNOWN]: It says, how one shoe can ruin a family photo.
• 2:33:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And this is supposedly this girl's foot, which I love about this is I immediately said, this is my profile pick for life.
• 2:33:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And then there was like a 9,000 comments for like profile pick, profile pick, profile pick.
• 2:33:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Joey, you don't want to see that.
• 2:33:52
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, that's dope.
• 2:33:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, okay, uh, have you all heard Tony of you're the story about Dave John Love?
• 2:34:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's my favorite, bro.
• 2:34:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I am Pro Deshawn Love, not guilty.
• 2:34:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Hashtag.
• 2:34:09
  [UNKNOWN]: So dude, so isn't saying.
• 2:34:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm root for this motherfucker.
• 2:34:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Deshawn Love, pretended to be a 40-nighter's player for years, defrauding more than 20 women and companies out of $1.3 million.
• 2:34:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know where that guy gets involved and arrested Deshawn.
• 2:34:46
  [UNKNOWN]: But I just want to give some context.
• 2:34:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I know a lot of people don't understand how the inner feel works.
• 2:34:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I think, yeah.
• 2:34:53
  [UNKNOWN]: But if you know me and see me in person, I will lose my distance from the kids.
• 2:34:56
  [UNKNOWN]: This is for the people who want to understand more about my story and get another side of the story.
• 2:35:03
  [UNKNOWN]: This guy's helping me get distracted.
• 2:35:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Where's the ice out there?
• 2:35:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I always had lock-in for the people who do want to know who want to follow me.
• 2:35:14
  [UNKNOWN]: So, no, listen, you might know where my eyes are supposed to go in.
• 2:35:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:35:19
  [UNKNOWN]: How in the hell are you a woman who doesn't even stop to Google the dude?
• 2:35:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 2:35:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh Don't I got it.
• 2:35:45
  [UNKNOWN]: This is my shit.
• 2:35:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Is this what you're talking about?
• 2:35:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:35:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, boom.
• 2:35:51
  [UNKNOWN]: He planted so much on the internet that fucking AI said he was on these teams.
• 2:35:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I love this.
• 2:35:58
  [UNKNOWN]: My favorite part of this story.
• 2:36:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I am pro day john love.
• 2:36:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I am all about it.
• 2:36:06
  [UNKNOWN]: And there's this one.
• 2:36:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I just saw that came out first.
• 2:36:11
  [UNKNOWN]: He carries his helmet everywhere.
• 2:36:13
  [UNKNOWN]: yeah everywhere it's so fucking awesome but there is this one i got to find it keep going with your i-sup pick i got to find this right no but i mean like also but if you are you want to pat them on the back to fucking whatever the fact that you never ever like bro you have to know invented you're gonna get fucking caught and you're gonna have your face
• 2:36:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Placid over the internet, like this, look at the forehand on that.
• 2:36:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Free ham, free ham, man on his mind, doesn't eat, free day's life, free day's life.
• 2:36:59
  [UNKNOWN]: That guy has a five-hand.
• 2:37:01
  [UNKNOWN]: There is this one, man, I'm telling you, I said, like so much is coming out on this.
• 2:37:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Is he went to get permanent dreads or locks put in?
• 2:37:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I saw the tweet.
• 2:37:16
  [UNKNOWN]: And it was like, oh, I'm coming.
• 2:37:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I get these locks put in.
• 2:37:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm on need security.
• 2:37:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And they took a picture with the people that put his braids in and he's holding the helmet.
• 2:37:29
  [UNKNOWN]: like what what what motherfucker is holding he's like I got to bring my helmet with me to make sure that these grades fit like what the fuck like I'm telling you I am pro I'm I'm rooting for this I don't know where you're also doing that you were sending them videos
• 2:37:51
  [UNKNOWN]: thanking them for the money that they were sending him because of his financial troubles.
• 2:37:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Have you seen the one we're sending on to sending an NFL player money?
• 2:38:03
  [UNKNOWN]: for his financial troubles.
• 2:38:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I fucking love you.
• 2:38:07
  [UNKNOWN]: What are you talking about?
• 2:38:08
  [UNKNOWN]: This is one video where this girl's film and I'm signing my contract.
• 2:38:14
  [UNKNOWN]: First of all, he signed his contract in his house.
• 2:38:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Nobody's around at all.
• 2:38:19
  [UNKNOWN]: It's just fucking papers.
• 2:38:22
  [UNKNOWN]: He's like, oh, and he flips through it.
• 2:38:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And he goes to sign it.
• 2:38:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And the pen does he retouch the paper, bro.
• 2:38:30
  [UNKNOWN]: But he's just like,
• 2:38:32
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's not even touching the paper.
• 2:38:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm rooting for this guy.
• 2:38:36
  [UNKNOWN]: My, your ice up is, are you iceing up him?
• 2:38:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Are you iceing up the women?
• 2:38:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm iceing up this.
• 2:38:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, I'm kind of not getting my hands on you.
• 2:38:47
  [UNKNOWN]: The blood is held into a firecracker.
• 2:38:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, dude, dude, dude.
• 2:38:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude.
• 2:38:53
  [UNKNOWN]: It's so dumb.
• 2:38:55
  [UNKNOWN]: It's so awesome, bro.
• 2:38:57
  [UNKNOWN]: This is my favorite shit, everyone.
• 2:38:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm icing up everyone.
• 2:39:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm icing up the dumb bimboes and fell for it.
• 2:39:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm icing up him for taking the can get away with it.
• 2:39:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm icing up everyone involved.
• 2:39:08
  [UNKNOWN]: We're living in Cartoon mode.
• 2:39:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Did you see I saw this one thing?
• 2:39:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And now I don't know what we should believe about it at all, because like, is like the internet and balancing it.
• 2:39:19
  [UNKNOWN]: But I saw one thing that was like he was trying to start a kids camp.
• 2:39:24
  [UNKNOWN]: where he was like, like, oh, we're going to do a quarterbacks camp and he had Russell Wilson, Tom Brady.
• 2:39:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I was like, this motherfucker is all in.
• 2:39:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I like it.
• 2:39:41
  [UNKNOWN]: He is a fucking new-be-end prince.
• 2:39:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Apparently apparently the NFL is getting involved now too, so
• 2:39:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, you know what, thank God for day, daymon or dayjohn, daymon love.
• 2:39:57
  [UNKNOWN]: James Ellis says, so definitely be a wide receiver in prison.
• 2:40:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, I'm telling you this is that the 49ers might need to call them up.
• 2:40:07
  [UNKNOWN]: With that substation, their court, their their code, their owner getting prostitutes.
• 2:40:16
  [UNKNOWN]: man.
• 2:40:17
  [UNKNOWN]: He got traded to the rams the last time I heard.
• 2:40:20
  [UNKNOWN]: You're listening to the C3 Panthers podcast.
• 2:40:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if Cody's icing up.
• 2:40:25
  [UNKNOWN]: He's icing up.
• 2:40:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Daymon love.
• 2:40:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm loving daymon love.
• 2:40:31
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