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Reali-TEA Crime Stories: Illegally Blonde - Erika Jayne & Tom Girardi · Reality with The King

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from The
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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, rain Drops of today's episode of
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Speaker 1: Reality Crime Story Baby. Along with my co host Cortney Parker,
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Speaker 1: we have to get into this week's topic, which is
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Speaker 1: the fall of Tom Girardi, who we all come to note. Yes,
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Speaker 1: his his personality was you in the movie that starred
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Speaker 1: the beautiful Julia Roberts Aaron Prokovich, but he is known
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Speaker 1: as Erica James's husband. So Cordie and I today are
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Speaker 1: going to talk about exactly what's going on with his case,
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Speaker 1: because listen, you have to be living under rock to
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Speaker 1: know what Erica Jane has been going through for the
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Speaker 1: past couple of years, not only in her real life
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Speaker 1: but on the real house spots of Belly Hills where
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Speaker 1: a lot of the girls on the show question whether
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Speaker 1: or not she knew what was going on with Tom Gerardi,
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Speaker 1: who was recently found guilty and sentenced to prisident for
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Speaker 1: his crime. So, Courtney, what is going on in this case?
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Speaker 2: Listen? This is not just another celebrity scandal. It's a
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Speaker 2: systemic legal failure that exploits vulnerable clients, his family, families
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Speaker 2: that were uh dealing with plane crash victims, injury workers
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Speaker 2: for his own personal gain. And he wasn't just any lawyer.
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Speaker 2: He was a super lawyer. He was a champion for
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Speaker 2: justice whose firm was recently just disbarred and bankrupt. His
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Speaker 2: downfall and the alleged misuth of those funds to prop
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Speaker 2: up his reality star wife is what we're talking about today.
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Speaker 2: And yes, this case intersects reality TV because of who
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Speaker 2: he was married to, but the courts focuses on squarely
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Speaker 2: the fraud, the deception, and the restitution and the eagle
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Speaker 2: the legal ethics involved. This is not just about story,
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Speaker 2: but we are the master storytellers and we're going to
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Speaker 2: get into the reality crime of this illegally blonde couple.
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Speaker 1: Not illegally blonde. Oh, according to you are a woman
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Speaker 1: with words, baby so ray jobs. Let me give you
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Speaker 1: all the timeline dating back to nineteen ninety nine before
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Speaker 1: I talk about what he was sentenced to, So to
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Speaker 1: catch all of you up. In nineteen ninety nine, Erica
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Speaker 1: Tom met at Chassen's It's the Beverly Hills hotspot, where
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Speaker 1: Erica is a cocktail waitress. The following year they get married.
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Speaker 1: I know that's my Erica. I'm not dating for more
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Speaker 1: than a year, married me booth. So they get married.
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Speaker 1: At that time, Tom was a high powered attorney, like
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Speaker 1: I said, best known for the Aaron Brokovich case. Erica
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Speaker 1: is starting her music career. Between two thousand and seven
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Speaker 1: and fifteen, she launches her also ego Erica Jane Music
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Speaker 1: on the charts, and at this time during those years
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Speaker 1: is when Tom reportedly was funding her career with the
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Speaker 1: millions of dollars through his law firm, which we have
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Speaker 1: come to know today. Erica joins the Real Housewives of
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Speaker 1: Belly Hills in twenty fifteen. We were able to see
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Speaker 1: her jet setting lavish lifestyle right Courtney, it was like
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Speaker 1: the Glitz and the Glenns.
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Speaker 2: Was the real Housewife of Beverly Hills, like undeniably beautiful,
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Speaker 2: blonde bombshell, living the life of a high powered attorney
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Speaker 2: with just money flowing. Champagne, Carvier, she caviar, she was
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Speaker 2: lifestyles of the rich and famous.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and during the pandemic. In November twenty twenty, which is,
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Speaker 1: you know, the early days of it, Erica fought for
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Speaker 1: divorce from Tom after twenty one years of marriage, just
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Speaker 1: week before lawsuits begins surfacing alleging financial frog December of
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty through twenty twenty one, Tom has sued for
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Speaker 1: allegedly embezzling settlement funds from victims of the Lion aircrash.
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Speaker 1: Erica is named in civil suits, but matains she had
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Speaker 1: no knowledge between the years of twenty twenty two and
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Tom not only is this barred, he's
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Speaker 1: also placed under Conservative ship. Eventually ignited. Erica fights civil
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Speaker 1: suits tied to the legend USA FOMPS and the Courtney.
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Speaker 1: June of this year, a month ago, Tom is sentenced
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Speaker 1: to seven years in federal prison Erica continues performing and
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Speaker 1: working amiss public scrutiny. Now, look, I will say this, Courtney,
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Speaker 1: I was the minority in the situation, and I still
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Speaker 1: stand on my belief that Erica did not know what
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Speaker 1: was going on. I don't believe she knew what was
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Speaker 1: going on. I believe she was a wife who was
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Speaker 1: able to just brief the benefits of having a high
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Speaker 1: powered attorney giving you the jets, the backup dancers as
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Speaker 1: a blind weave. Honey, I don't think she knew anything, Courtney.
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Speaker 1: I still believe that till this day, Courtney, she is
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Speaker 1: being sued for a lot of civil suits. What is
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Speaker 1: going on there?
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Speaker 2: Well, listen, what happens is exactly what happens. She has
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Speaker 2: become the face of the scandal she swears she didn't
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Speaker 2: know anything about, nor did she create. But here's the problem, Carlos,
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Speaker 2: Erica didn't just benefit from Tom's money. She built an
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Speaker 2: empire and a brand off of it. And when that
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Speaker 2: money turned out to be stolen from plane crash victims
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Speaker 2: and burn survivors, the glam fortune became real grimy Uh.
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Speaker 2: The million dollar question that we always ask and that
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Speaker 2: so many people have asked, is did she know? It's
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Speaker 2: interesting that you say she didn't. I don't think she did.
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Speaker 2: Even if she Even if she, if you feel like
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Speaker 2: she didn't, what needs to really be discussed is why
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Speaker 2: didn't she? I think sometimes we want to get into
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Speaker 2: the did she or didn't she? Of it all without saying,
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Speaker 2: how are you married to someone for twenty one years
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Speaker 2: who is a super attorney, the fighter for justice and
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Speaker 2: you not know that some of his dealings and some
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Speaker 2: of that fortune was not above board? And although she
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Speaker 2: wasn't officially charged, public opinion is not even really and
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Speaker 2: truly solely fight it in this case. They're like, if
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Speaker 2: you claiming you didn't know, then the onus and responsibility
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Speaker 2: still should be on you to know. And does your
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Speaker 2: ignorance is your ignorance in this respect bliss? Or do
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Speaker 2: you have an obligation to say.
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Speaker 1: That it's not.
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Speaker 2: Well?
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Speaker 1: I think this. I think this. I think if you
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Speaker 1: look at very wealthy men or even excuse me, men
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Speaker 1: of beings who do have literally a real housewife, right
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Speaker 1: like I'm a housewife. I stay at home, I take
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Speaker 1: care of the kids. Teresa Judais went to prison because
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Speaker 1: her husband gave her papers to sign and says, sign
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Speaker 1: of this dot to lie as far as taxes. She
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Speaker 1: did it without reading it, and she got sentenced to prison.
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Speaker 1: When fraud was committed on Jaill's behalf and Teresa was like,
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Speaker 1: I had no idea what was going on, And I
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Speaker 1: still to this day believe Teresa didn't I know, but
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Speaker 1: she did get what some people consider a harsh sentence
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Speaker 1: of one year in prison base on what's going on
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Speaker 1: with Erica Jane. Listen, what I believed is this, and
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Speaker 1: again this is this is you know, my opinion, and
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Speaker 1: this is me just watching the show. I got a
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Speaker 1: chance to meet Erica Jane as well, but she could
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Speaker 1: not have been more lovely. So look, Erica Jane, like
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Speaker 1: we said, is being accused Courtney of using over too
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Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars for personal use, all of which
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Speaker 1: came from the firm's funding. Attorney Ronald Richards and his
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Speaker 1: legal team are seeking financial justice, which with me making
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Speaker 1: Erica Jane pay back the money. I don't believe she knew.
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Speaker 1: That's my opinion. I really do believe that. The attorney
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Speaker 1: for the victims did say that we are hopeful that
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Speaker 1: on June fourth. I'm sorry. The attorneys really do feel
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Speaker 1: like they do have a case, but I'm not too
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Speaker 1: sure if they do. But what's fascinating is Erica Jane
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Speaker 1: is hitted to trial in February of twenty twenty six
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Speaker 1: over a twenty five million dollar lawsuit.
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Speaker 2: Right, it's blood money, and that's what the media is
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Speaker 2: calling it. That's what the streets are even saying, Like,
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Speaker 2: the reality is you're citing innocence, But innocence isn't just
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Speaker 2: about what you know. It's also about what you chose
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Speaker 2: to not ask. Like it gives very don't ask, don't tell,
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Speaker 2: but that doesn't make you innocent. That makes you guilty
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Speaker 2: somewhat by association. She built a fantasy around luxury, but
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Speaker 2: the receipts were bloody. There were plane crash settlements, brown
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Speaker 2: victim payouts, and she was front row at findy. So
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Speaker 2: it's the perception of evil that can cause people to
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Speaker 2: be judged just as harshly as the person who committed
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Speaker 2: the sin or in this case, the crime. There are
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Speaker 2: too many women oftentimes when they marry these high profile
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Speaker 2: people that are reacting and responding to, Oh, this is
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Speaker 2: just the soft life I want of the self life.
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Speaker 2: I want to be kept. You mentioned the words kept,
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Speaker 2: But there is a responsibility to knowing where the money
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Speaker 2: is coming from, what is it costing somebody else. When
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Speaker 2: you're flaunting your wealth and you're rich, is you also
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Speaker 2: need to be able to back up that your riches
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Speaker 2: were legitimate because you're putting your finances, You're putting your
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Speaker 2: lifestyle at the forefront, whether it's by way of Real
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Speaker 2: Housewives of Beverly Hills or whether just it's within your
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Speaker 2: simple circle. You made America, you made viewers fall in
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Speaker 2: love with the flash. So no matter what, you have
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Speaker 2: a responsibility to at least own it. Own that your husband,
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Speaker 2: by far was just not a good person and misappropriated
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Speaker 2: the funds. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: No, and that's the thing I've always believed that. Look,
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Speaker 1: he did the crime, and as we now know, he's
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Speaker 1: paying the time for it.
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Speaker 2: Right, he.
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Speaker 1: Alluded to have a dementia, but at the end of
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Speaker 1: the day, the jury to be guilty and he has
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Speaker 1: to spend seven years in jail for what he has done.
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Speaker 1: Erica did have a lot to celebrate a few years ago, Courtney.
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Speaker 1: She did get dismissed from a few lawsuits. But like
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Speaker 1: I said earlier, she has to fight for this one
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Speaker 1: that's for twenty four million dollars. Look, do you think
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Speaker 1: that because this was a big topic on the Real
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Speaker 1: Housewives of Billy Hills, right, Erica had some ear rings,
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Speaker 1: some diamond ear rings Courtney. And the reason why it
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Speaker 1: was a big topic of conversation is because a lot
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Speaker 1: of the people felt that she should just give those
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Speaker 1: ear rings back, like they were like, give the ear
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Speaker 1: rings back. The ear rings allegedly were worth seven hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars, and she refused to give them back.
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Speaker 1: She was like, these are my ear rings. They were
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Speaker 1: a gift for me. I had nothing to do with it.
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Speaker 1: And a lot of people felt like, what you're saying, Corney,
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Speaker 1: Like there's blood on those ear rings. You know there
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Speaker 1: were your husband used the stolen money to pay for
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Speaker 1: those ear rings. It was it was a big topic
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Speaker 1: of discussion based upon that, but it was also something
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Speaker 1: that really to me show that this is something that
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Speaker 1: a lot of people have deep feelings for. The gag
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Speaker 1: is she did win the legal battle over the ear rings.
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Speaker 1: They found that she did not have to give them up.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that's the right call from the courts?
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Speaker 2: Again, it's simple. Erica wasn't in the courtroom. She didn't
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Speaker 2: take these cash settlements that were due to these families,
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Speaker 2: but she was. She's been a part of all of
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Speaker 2: these conversations. She didn't move the money, but she moved
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Speaker 2: with the money from the glam squads to the diamond
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Speaker 2: earrings seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars diamond earrings, to
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Speaker 2: this money that he stole allegedly from victims and victims' families,
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Speaker 2: paid for her life off of other people's pains. So
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Speaker 2: just because she may have not signed the check, cashing
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Speaker 2: the check and living this lavish lifestyle, because he has
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Speaker 2: been found guilty, it kind of makes her again guilty
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Speaker 2: by association. This was your husband. You knew where this
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Speaker 2: money come came from, even though they were gifts.
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Speaker 1: There, well, the thought it came from. If you don't,
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Speaker 1: but when you know, when you know better?
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Speaker 2: Right, when you.
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Speaker 1: Right? Okay?
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Speaker 2: How do you make it right? How do you consciously
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Speaker 2: know that I have profited, profited off of the pain
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Speaker 2: and suffering of people who have lost everything and money
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Speaker 2: is due to them. So how do you and good
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Speaker 2: conscience walk around with seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars
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Speaker 2: of potential settlement money that was due them and just
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Speaker 2: wear them in your ears or carry it with your
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Speaker 2: birken bag, knowing that even though you might have been
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Speaker 2: innocent and not realizing where it came from.
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Speaker 1: You know now, you know now, you know now.
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Speaker 2: And again, it's not just about innocence, it's not just
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Speaker 2: about its. People have to be paid restitution, People have
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Speaker 2: to be made aware. And there doesn't feel like where
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Speaker 2: she's losing public empathy is she's going on with her life,
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Speaker 2: not that she should be free, but it's still lavish.
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Speaker 2: She's going on with her life to such an extent
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Speaker 2: that we haven't forgotten the fact that she got She
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Speaker 2: paid forty thousand dollars a month on glam, just glam.
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Speaker 2: That's certain people's salary and that's what she paid to
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Speaker 2: look good a month. While she was singing about expensive,
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Speaker 2: I think that was the title of her song.
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Speaker 1: It was it's expensive to be Go ahead, Courtney.
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Speaker 2: To be me. Your rain drops are not coming from
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Speaker 2: me for not knowing, Erica Jane. Now I am listening.
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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
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Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show.
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Speaker 2: But when you have a case like this, I think
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Speaker 2: it's it's really good to look at the optics and
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Speaker 2: I'm all four living the soft life being kept. And
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that she planned it that way, but
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Speaker 2: when the glam is funded by grief, it's harder to
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Speaker 2: separate her lifestyle from the lives that were impacted by
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Speaker 2: her husband's wrongdoings.
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Speaker 1: So you're on the same page as the attorney who's
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Speaker 1: representing a few of the people involved in the civil cases,
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Speaker 1: Ronald Richards him and his legal team Coordiney, are seeking
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Speaker 1: financial justice. They're looking to make Erica Jane pay back
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Speaker 1: the money. Ronald said on Twitter, he posted this Erica
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Speaker 1: James spouse that she abandoned is on his way to
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Speaker 1: a defecto almost life sentence. Meanwhile, the judge in the
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Speaker 1: twenty five million dollar fraudulent convenience action we filed wants
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Speaker 1: additional briefing on how to try this case. Erica's defense
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Speaker 1: is the money went to her personal service company, EJ Globo.
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Speaker 1: This defense is definitely a loser, so her best shot
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Speaker 1: is to keep delaying. Money is tight for her now
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Speaker 1: and she hates paying her own legal bills. Walls keep closing. Now, look,
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Speaker 1: that's an attorney he's on Twitter giving a good old
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Speaker 1: housewife read you thought about that? Because look, I feel
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Speaker 1: like is that the best way to argue the case
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Speaker 1: By going on Twitter reading Erica her rights for the
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Speaker 1: public consumption, since on Twitter there's people who just don't
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Speaker 1: see it for Erica.
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Speaker 2: Listen, if it's good enough for the President of the
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Speaker 2: United States to deal with our global affairs, it's good
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Speaker 2: enough for this attorney. People consume their media and attention
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Speaker 2: by way social media all day long, and with respect
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Speaker 2: to Erica not necessarily playing the victim but being portrayed
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Speaker 2: as the villain. Here, Erica is not the only woman
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Speaker 2: in the world that has been lied on or lied
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Speaker 2: to by a man. The difference is most of us
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Speaker 2: don't get a twenty five million dollar check deposited into
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Speaker 2: a shell company with her name on it. So I
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Speaker 2: don't think she is a victim. She might be a
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Speaker 2: victim emotionally, but financially she's not. She gained, she benefited
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Speaker 2: in a big way from this money, so you can't
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Speaker 2: necessarily claim it as a gift and then claim you
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Speaker 2: knew nothing about how he made his money, where his
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Speaker 2: money came from, because then you divorced this man like
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Speaker 2: he like they said, she abandoned her husband. And again,
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Speaker 2: this is the unpopular opinion, but an opinion that's floating
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Speaker 2: out there, and I can see it from both sides.
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Speaker 2: She gives the appearance of her loyalty wasn't to him,
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Speaker 2: wasn't to Tom, but more so to her brand, her image,
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Speaker 2: and the aesthetics of being kept. She is the epitome
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Speaker 2: of a real Housewives of housewife of Beverly Hills. However,
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Speaker 2: what sometimes we need to really understand is when you're
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Speaker 2: more loyal to your lifestyle than the truth, you might
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Speaker 2: end up defending a monster or becoming the monster just
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Speaker 2: to keep your closet full. That's not love, that's not
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Speaker 2: co branding. That's giving the appearance of sheer evil.
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Speaker 1: So now that Tom has been sentry is.
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Speaker 2: Yes, because we're living in a time, in an age
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Speaker 2: where everybody plays not only the fool, but everybody is
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Speaker 2: is victim. They're the victim of everything. And this is
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Speaker 2: a really good topic because she came with her receipts.
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Speaker 2: We're not talking about little money here. We're talking about
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Speaker 2: millions and millions of dollars.
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Speaker 1: That you now know.
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Speaker 2: You can't say, well, I didn't know, because you know
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Speaker 2: now that this is some someone lost their daughter, son, father,
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Speaker 2: mother behind this. These are a plane crash victims, these
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Speaker 2: are burn victims. Aaron Brockovic, we all saw the movie.
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Speaker 2: We all know the story. So those settlements that you hear,
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Speaker 2: that is justification and vindication for these families are lying
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Speaker 2: in a shell company for you. I respect her because
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Speaker 2: she did use the seed money to build this brand.
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Speaker 2: It's not like this woman is talentless. It's not like
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Speaker 2: she hasn't allowed us to see weekend and week out
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Speaker 2: season from season of her life and her journey on
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Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. It's not like her spinoff
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Speaker 2: shows and this lavish lifestyle we haven't seen come crumbling
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Speaker 2: like a cookie. I say cookie because you know what
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Speaker 2: I'm about to endure.
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Speaker 1: You doing your fast, hip your fast.
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Speaker 2: So forgive the food analogies. But there does come a
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Speaker 2: time where where do you grieve? Do you just continue
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Speaker 2: to shop? Where do you grieve for the victims' families?
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Speaker 2: And what can you do to restore or or give
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Speaker 2: or provide some kind of restitution on your ex husband?
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Speaker 2: They weren't married for two years, five years, even seven years.
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Speaker 2: They were married for twenty one years, So I don't know. Carlos,
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Speaker 2: what do you think do you think you could have
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Speaker 2: a good conscious and not give back something to pay
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Speaker 2: some kind of restitution to these families just because your
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Speaker 2: man was wrong.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think you raised a good point, because what
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Speaker 1: I do realize legally, when it comes to marriages, the
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Speaker 1: couple you're seen as one like your husband's debts is
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Speaker 1: yours and vice versa. So I do understand from a
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Speaker 1: legality standpoint, the idea that as a married couple, you're
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Speaker 1: unfortunately subjected to the legal debt or financial depth of
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Speaker 1: your husband or your wives situation. Hence, Teresa JULYI is
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Speaker 1: going to jail for a year because she saw it right.
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Speaker 2: Her to say, hey, this was wrong. He did it.
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Speaker 2: I participated in it, even though I wasn't conscious. I
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Speaker 2: served my time, and I divorced, and now I'm going
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Speaker 2: on with my life. It really does feel like in
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Speaker 2: this case, this was a company she did not build.
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Speaker 2: He built it. She benefited from it. When it came
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Speaker 2: crashing down, she was like, well, I'm just gonna keep
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Speaker 2: all of that I possess to myself and I'm gonna,
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Speaker 2: you know, go on and live my life because these
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Speaker 2: were gifts. And again, it just becomes a situation where
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Speaker 2: you cannot you cannot. You are really guilty by association,
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Speaker 2: and you should make right of it. Yeah, she believed
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Speaker 2: in a man, she believed in her marriage. But what
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Speaker 2: she didn't do is believe in what it gives. Is
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Speaker 2: she doesn't believe in the restitution to these families should
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Speaker 2: be on her.
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Speaker 1: So with that being said, she, like I said, she
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Speaker 1: is going to trial in February. We will see what happens.
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Speaker 1: She was able to keep the earrings per the court,
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Speaker 1: so that is a win for her. But look, I
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Speaker 1: think you and I obviously on the same page, which
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Speaker 1: is our hearts squat to the victims. I'm sure they're
26:41
Speaker 1: happy to see the person who rob them be sentenced
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Speaker 1: to jail. That's the right thing to do, and listen
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Speaker 1: our hearts, thoughts and prayers throughout. So of course, all
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Speaker 1: the victims that suffer through the crimes of Tom Giraldi
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Speaker 1: and when it comes to Erica Love. They are filming
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Speaker 1: the new season of The Real Housewives Wi Hills, but
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Speaker 1: this will be a topic of conversation because it's so
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Speaker 1: like Tom Gerardy's fall from grace because he was considered
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Speaker 1: this legal legend based on the Aaron Broncovic cage, which
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Speaker 1: is sort of like was the case that really when
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Speaker 1: you have a high profile case. The reason why a
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Speaker 1: lot of attorneys do a pro bono not saying he
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Speaker 1: did it in this situation, but a lot of them
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Speaker 1: take on high profile cases pro bono is because the
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Speaker 1: world will see you as this hero and you will
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Speaker 1: get everybody in the world to spend your actual hourly
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Speaker 1: legal wage to take them on as a client. And
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Speaker 1: obviously it was a movie was made out of it,
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Speaker 1: played by Julia Roberts. So I understand the accumulation of
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Speaker 1: the wealth he received after that that case, and this
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Speaker 1: is to me a crime of greed. It is a
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Speaker 1: crime of when you, when you, when the money is
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Speaker 1: flowing in, you want more of it and more of it,
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Speaker 1: and more of it and more.
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Speaker 2: Of it instead of just young wife especially.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a young wife you're trying to keep happy,
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Speaker 1: and you know you're you're giving money to fund her
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Speaker 1: lifestyle and her career. So it's it's it's unfortunate that
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Speaker 1: his legacy is officially ruined. He has to spend these
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Speaker 1: years in jail, and he's let me see how old
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Speaker 1: he is, because I think the other thing too is
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Speaker 1: sort of like will he be able to like survive
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Speaker 1: he's eighty six years old?
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Speaker 2: Listen again, let me set the record straight for the
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Speaker 2: rain drops. No, I am not an attorney. I am
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Speaker 2: not a prime producer. I do have a degree too,
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Speaker 2: I'm not an attorney. He will probably get depending on
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Speaker 2: his circumstances, because now they're saying he's suffering from dementia.
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Speaker 2: He'll probably get a compassionate release.
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Speaker 1: He will not.
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Speaker 2: I don't see him withstanding a seven year sentence. And
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Speaker 2: that's why, given the money and the crime, I think
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Speaker 2: the reason he only got seven years is because of
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Speaker 2: his age. With respect to her, I you know, again,
29:44
Speaker 2: feel like she mistook proximity for privilege. She thought being
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Speaker 2: married to a powerful man made her untouchable and in
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Speaker 2: this case, but it made her extremely vulnerable because she
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Speaker 2: had no protection. She has no She's saying that she
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Speaker 2: had no real legal knowledge of what was going on,
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Speaker 2: and it comes across like she was just in it
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Speaker 2: for the bags and the lashes, but not the lawsuits, and.
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Speaker 1: Not in for the not in for the lastes, but
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Speaker 1: not the lawsuits. Courtney Parker, the worst you are.
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Speaker 2: But what reminds me of and it really does become
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Speaker 2: a cautionary out And I'm a big component and I'm
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Speaker 2: a big person on the need for women to really
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Speaker 2: come into these things with their own whether it's your own.
30:47
Speaker 2: I know several successful, brilliant women that are quote unquote kept,
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Speaker 2: but they are lawyers, they are doctors. Even if they're
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Speaker 2: not working in the field, they are educated enough to know,
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Speaker 2: like they would have met them at Brown for are
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Speaker 2: now like they are savvy enough. And even if you're
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Speaker 2: not highly educated or intelligent, you've become savvy enough to
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Speaker 2: navigate and build something that was your own. Shout out
31:20
Speaker 2: not to someone like Camara Lee Simmons, that is a
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Speaker 2: woman that not only built her own brand and business
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Speaker 2: off the hills of a successful husband, but she wore
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Speaker 2: her shoes and her heels and built a runway for
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Speaker 2: herself and when things started to tremble, she had her
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Speaker 2: own to stand up for, to stand on, not saying
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Speaker 2: that Erica Jane did not do that, but to play
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Speaker 2: ignorant and not establish things and literally be concerned with
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Speaker 2: the frivolous things. The outcome the benefits of this case
32:06
Speaker 2: versus the burden that her husband's wrong doing wrongdoings have
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Speaker 2: had to other people. That in and of itself is
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Speaker 2: like how do you recover and how do you recover
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Speaker 2: in the court of public opinion because these things happen.
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Speaker 2: Glam with no knowledge, no backup plan, and no legal
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Speaker 2: distance isn't security. It's smoking mirrors. And you know, his
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Speaker 2: money gained her access to get through the door to
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Speaker 2: acquire this fame, but without proper awareness it she became
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Speaker 2: a really pretty liability.
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Speaker 1: And there you have it. The worst for the Courtney
32:49
Speaker 1: park is so in closing, look, thank you rain Josh
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Speaker 1: for tuning against another episode of Reality Crime Stories where
32:56
Speaker 1: we are going to every single week on bail, one fraud,
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Speaker 1: one fashion icon, and a whole lot of fallout, one
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Speaker 1: episode at a time. And trust me, this won't be
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Speaker 1: the last time we see how fame, fortune and felony
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Speaker 1: charges collide. On the next episode of Reality Crime Stories
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Speaker 1: with my co hosts and co creator Courtney Parker right
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Speaker 1: here on Reality with the King, we will be back
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Speaker 1: with more receipts, more scandal, and more truth behind the headlines.
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Speaker 1: Stay tuned because the tea is just getting started. Thank
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Speaker 1: you Courtney for a great episode.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you rain Drops, Thank you King of Reality.
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