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KRAKEN THIS MORNING: Motoring in with plenty to talk about (10/9) · Seattle Kraken Audio Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Kraken This Morning, a presentation of the Kraken
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  Speaker 1: Audio Network and Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
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  Speaker 2: Here's Mike Bettman.
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  Speaker 1: A five-game trip opening this evening at Little Caesars Arena
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  Speaker 1: as the Kraken look for the long adventure of the road.
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  Speaker 1: to get their season going in the right direction for
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  Speaker 1: a long-term cause. Mike Benton with you. We have coverage
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  Speaker 1: opening up at 3.30 today. Take note on sports radio,
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  Speaker 1: 9.50 KJR AM for the radio flagship side. You can
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  Speaker 1: also catch us. all across the Global Credit Union Kraken
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  Speaker 1: Audio Network, wherever you may be within Washington, Oregon, Alaska, Idaho,
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  Speaker 1: and Montana. The Kraken will face Detroit in the first
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  Speaker 1: of two matchups coming up here for this month, and
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  Speaker 1: they head into a place that has been through an
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  Speaker 1: absolute spin cycle with the news over the recent few months,
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  Speaker 1: all the way from GM Steve Iserman out of his
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  Speaker 1: GM position to to Dylan Larkin's trade request, to now
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  Speaker 1: where does Simon Edvinson play? We'll replay some of our
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  Speaker 1: conversation with Max Boltman of the Athletic on the state
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  Speaker 1: of the Red Wings, plus also get you caught up
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  Speaker 1: here for puck drop heading into game one of this
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  Speaker 1: five-game trip. Well, previous home game didn't go exactly as planned,
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  Speaker 1: but maybe were some seeds planted for the long term
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  Speaker 1: in a 6-2 crack and loss against the Vegas Golden Knights.
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  Speaker 1: Here's how things unfolded. And it was Vegas opening up
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  Speaker 1: the score early before scores were out to be settled
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  Speaker 1: in a physical, emotional, and wild third period.
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  Speaker 3: Jack Eichel, below the goal line here for Mark Stone.
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  Speaker 3: Centers it in front to Tomasz Hertel, and they score.
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  Speaker 3: Stone over to Eichel, two on one, short-handed. Eichel, right
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  Speaker 3: side across the stone, he scores. A very unfortunate play.
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  Speaker 3: For Seattle, a broken stick by Montour on the shot.
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  Speaker 3: Two on one. Eichel and Stone probably the last guys
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  Speaker 3: you want to see coming down on you. 35 seconds
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  Speaker 3: to play here in the second period. Jack Eichel forcing
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  Speaker 3: a turnover on a breakaway. Down the slot, he scores.
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  Speaker 3: Up the bracket, Kapo Kakko, left wing entry to the
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  Speaker 3: high slot.
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  Speaker 4: Shane Wright scores!
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  Speaker 3: Shane Wright breaks the shutout, and the Seattle Kraken.
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  Speaker 1: On the board.
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  Speaker 3: It's a 5-1 Golden Knights lead with 15.08 to play
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  Speaker 3: in the period.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Kapokaro gets a great feed in stride down.
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  Speaker 2: That left side.
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  Speaker 5: He's a left shot, so he's got all kinds of passing.
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  Speaker 2: Lanes to his right.
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  Speaker 5: He finds Shane Wright coming high in the slot, and
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  Speaker 5: Wright beats Carter Hart, glove side, under the bar, breaks
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  Speaker 5: that shutout. 5-1 Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: Just wiggled his gloves at him.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see if they go.
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  Speaker 2: Here's Montour, now they're gonna go.
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  Speaker 3: Montour, Mark Stone, right circle inside of Kraken territory. Gloves
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  Speaker 3: and sticks are down, they'll size each other up. Mark
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  Speaker 3: Stone reaches first. Montour grabs him. Two strong rights over
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  Speaker 3: top of the head. Now they jostle at one another.
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  Speaker 3: Mark Stone has one. Now Montour another strong right hand.
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  Speaker 3: Mark Stone counters with a right of his own. Montour
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  Speaker 3: trying to grab his footing.
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  Speaker 6: He does.
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  Speaker 3: Keeps him at arm's length. Stone over top of the head.
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  Speaker 3: Too strong for Montour. And then Mark Stone will catch him.
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  Speaker 3: And then they'll take each other down to the ground.
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  Speaker 1: Jack Eichel and Tomas Schertl were pretty hard to stop
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  Speaker 1: that night, each collecting four points in a 6-2 crack
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  Speaker 1: and loss against Vegas, but also both teams suffering a
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  Speaker 1: loss of bodies from their lineup as a result. Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Lindgren took a hit by Mark Gatcombe just 15 seconds
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  Speaker 1: into the game, would not return after period one. He
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  Speaker 1: will be out now four to six weeks with an
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  Speaker 1: upper body injury. Victor Olofsson also, who was hit by
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  Speaker 1: Ben Myers in period three, he's out week to week
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  Speaker 1: with an upper body injury. On top of that, the
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  Speaker 1: two teams combining for 65 minutes in penalties, 55 occurring
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  Speaker 1: in period three alone. Those escalated into two fights separately.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Winterton fighting Gatcombe at 15.03 of period three. And
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  Speaker 1: the headliner that got plenty in the hockey world talking
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  Speaker 1: about Brandon Montour fighting Vegas captain Mark Stone at 9.21
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  Speaker 1: of period three. Keep in mind, next meeting for these
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  Speaker 1: two teams will happen January 9th. Mark your calendars. Nonetheless,
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  Speaker 1: the Kraken had to deal with a pretty grounding loss
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  Speaker 1: and had a couple of days to move on mentally
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  Speaker 1: before getting here to the road for five straight games
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  Speaker 1: opening up in Detroit. At Morning Skate on Friday, head
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  Speaker 1: coach Lane Lambert began his remarks with what the Kraken
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  Speaker 1: will miss with Ryan Lindgren out of the lineup.
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  Speaker 7: Leadership and compete. You know, what it does is it
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  Speaker 7: gives other guys opportunities to play. And, you know, Otto Weinen, Fleury, Mahura,
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  Speaker 7: these guys have, you know, been waiting in the wings,
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  Speaker 7: so to speak, especially Fleury and Mahura because of the
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  Speaker 7: number of games that they sat out last year. So
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  Speaker 7: it just creates opportunity for those guys for sure.
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  Speaker 6: What can you see from them that would help earn
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  Speaker 6: your trust?
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  Speaker 4: Reliability.
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  Speaker 7: Just keep the game simple. Be physical. Be good on
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  Speaker 7: the penalty kill.
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  Speaker 6: After reviewing the last game, what kind of takeaways do
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  Speaker 6: you have when it comes to what needs to be
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  Speaker 6: cleaned up and just sharper today?
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  Speaker 7: A lot of things, actually. We didn't play very well,
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  Speaker 7: but we have to be more on our toes, more pressure.
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  Speaker 7: For whatever reason, I don't know what it is, we
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  Speaker 7: sat back and watched Vegas play hockey.
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  Speaker 6: With Detroit, they scored five goals last game. Debrinket, Arvidsson,
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  Speaker 6: you know, driving that up. What do you expect out
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  Speaker 6: of them just offensively, and what kind of defensive details
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  Speaker 6: does your group need to be aware of with them?
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  Speaker 7: Well, they've got some people that can score. There's no
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  Speaker 7: question about it. They move the puck well. We're going
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  Speaker 7: to have to be solid. We're going to have to
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  Speaker 7: be solid in our structure, and we're going to have
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  Speaker 7: to take away their time and space.
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  Speaker 5: What do you like about Mackie and Maddie together?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I like the speed of Mackey. I think it
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  Speaker 7: goes well also with Jared McCann on the left side
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  Speaker 7: as well. I think certainly Matty, he can transport the
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  Speaker 7: puck through the neutral zone, and I feel like Mackey
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  Speaker 7: does a good job of getting himself available, certainly wide
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  Speaker 7: with speed.
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  Speaker 8: With Brandon Montour coming in last year around this time,
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  Speaker 8: he's coming off an injury, and then he had his
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  Speaker 8: brother passing away. I mean, now... Things have changed a
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  Speaker 8: little 12 months later. Do you notice any difference in
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  Speaker 8: his demeanor? Do you notice it impacting him in a
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  Speaker 8: positive way that he can come in?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I thought that, you know, I thought his demeanor
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  Speaker 7: for everything that he was going through last year was
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  Speaker 7: really good. You know, it's a credit to him, his character,
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  Speaker 7: you know, the kind of person he is. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: you can maybe see there's a little bit of weight
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  Speaker 7: off his shoulders, so to speak. you know, you'd have
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  Speaker 7: to ask him that question. But, you know, we've elevated
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  Speaker 7: and asked, you know, him and Vince Dunn to, you know,
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  Speaker 7: join the leadership role wearing the assistant captain. And I
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  Speaker 7: think he's done a good job of trying to pull
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  Speaker 7: everybody into the fight. I like what he did the
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  Speaker 7: other night against Vegas.
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  Speaker 5: Todd McClellan talked a lot about your relationship this morning.
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  Speaker 5: Just you had dinner last night and talked about coaching
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  Speaker 5: things and this goes back 30 something years, right? Like,
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  Speaker 5: like what have you learned from Todd? What's your relationship
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  Speaker 5: been and what is it now?
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  Speaker 7: Well, yeah, no, Todd and I, uh, we do go
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  Speaker 7: way back. We're Saskatoon guys. Um, you know, and certainly, uh,
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  Speaker 7: I think he's, I think he's a brilliant coach to
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  Speaker 7: be honest. Um, you know, there's always challenges when you
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  Speaker 7: play a Todd McClellan team. He's had a lot of
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  Speaker 7: success obviously throughout his career. Um, and we talk a
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  Speaker 7: lot and, We share ideas a lot. Mostly he shares
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  Speaker 7: his with me because he does have a lot of
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  Speaker 7: knowledge and a lot of experience, but we definitely do
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  Speaker 7: talk a lot over the course of a season.
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  Speaker 1: So it's on to Detroit, never a Fitzhugh's old stomping grounds,
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  Speaker 1: where the Kraken are looking for their first win in
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  Speaker 1: three years. That happening last at Little Caesars Arena back
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  Speaker 1: on October 24th of 2023 when the Kraken came back
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  Speaker 1: down 4-3 on a game-tying goal by Jared McCann with
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  Speaker 1: 1.22 to go in regulation before Jordan Eberle put it away.
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  Speaker 1: with five seconds remaining in sudden death overtime. The Kraken
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  Speaker 1: will see Detroit for their two matchups both in this month,
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  Speaker 1: and the Red Wings have been through quite the spin
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  Speaker 1: cycle of the news cycle in the last few months,
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  Speaker 1: starting with Steve Iserman stepping aside from his position as
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  Speaker 1: GM to the trade request of Dylan Larkin, who then
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  Speaker 1: came back after injury to make his season debut Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: and not just score a goal but earn first star
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  Speaker 1: of the game honors here. in the Red Wings' first
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  Speaker 1: win of the regular season over Ottawa, and the lingering
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  Speaker 1: doubt over Simon Edmondson's future, the big, burly, and promising
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  Speaker 1: standout defenseman right now back home in Sweden, in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of a contract standoff with the Red Wings, who
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  Speaker 1: is right now also an unsigned restricted free agent, and
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  Speaker 1: the topic of trade talk across the NHL. We had
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  Speaker 1: Max Bultman from The Athletic on with us in our
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  Speaker 1: recent edition of Kraken Weekly, and here's a part of
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  Speaker 1: that conversation beginning on the current state of the Red Wings.
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  Speaker 2: Confusing.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's a team that was in first place
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  Speaker 4: in its division in late January of last season. They
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  Speaker 4: spent the better part of the last three to maybe
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  Speaker 4: even four years really trying to emerge from a rebuild.
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  Speaker 4: and have never quite been able to get there, but
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  Speaker 4: have always kind of been on the doorstep. So you
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  Speaker 4: enter last offseason and you're thinking the state of the
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  Speaker 4: Red Wings is still trying to get over the hump.
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  Speaker 4: But with all the uncertainty that has come up since then,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that we can say what a clear
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  Speaker 4: direction is. I'm sure that certainly in that locker room,
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  Speaker 4: they are thinking that way. They are thinking like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: we need to improve. We need to try to make
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs, get over the hump. It's a little hard
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  Speaker 4: for me to see it, though, given A, how good
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  Speaker 4: the Atlantic Division is, and B, all that uncertainty that
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  Speaker 4: is there.
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  Speaker 2: Now, you have a night like last night. And I
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  Speaker 2: say this on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 4: So Tuesday night, Dylan Larkin returns to the lineup and
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  Speaker 4: has a couple of points.
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  Speaker 2: They get a win.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying it was normal, but it was the
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  Speaker 4: most normal it's felt in a while around here. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you're having sell the team chance on the first two
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  Speaker 4: home losses of the season. I don't know that I
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  Speaker 4: can give you a two word state of the Red
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  Speaker 4: Wings right now because there is so much going on.
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  Speaker 4: I think there is definitely a, a feeling from players
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  Speaker 4: like they want to try to focus on hockey and
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  Speaker 4: come together and then play and then push. But it
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  Speaker 4: does feel like everything around them is an obstacle.
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  Speaker 2: To all of that.
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  Speaker 1: Recapping what happened with Dylan Larkin, who was a face
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  Speaker 1: of this franchise, a Michigan-born player as well, and it
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  Speaker 1: seemed kind of like the perfect marriage and perfect fit
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  Speaker 1: going back into the 2015 season when he was a
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  Speaker 1: fresh-faced rookie. Then he begins to accumulate more and more success.
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  Speaker 1: He gets all the way to the Olympic stage, wins
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  Speaker 1: a gold medal, and then we see everything as far
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  Speaker 1: as this come to a head with tearing apart at
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  Speaker 1: the seams. He officially asks for his trade request and
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  Speaker 1: then The press conference goes down, and here we are,
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  Speaker 1: as you mentioned, from Tuesday night, comes right back off
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  Speaker 1: of injury for his first game of the season, scores
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  Speaker 1: in his season debut, and also gets named the first star.
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  Speaker 2: Of the game.
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  Speaker 1: How much has this maybe shifted the dynamic with how
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  Speaker 1: Larkin is viewed around these parts right now and how
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  Speaker 1: this could maybe forecast his future depending upon if he
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  Speaker 1: stays or where he goes?
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  Speaker 2: I think the.
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  Speaker 4: fact that fans saw him play and play hard and
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  Speaker 4: stick up for his teammates and score.
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  Speaker 2: I think that matters.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it erases everything else. Um, but I
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  Speaker 4: don't think anything was ever going to erase everything all
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  Speaker 4: the way.
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  Speaker 2: Right. And so is.
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  Speaker 4: It, uh, has it fundamentally changed the nature of the situation?
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe so.
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  Speaker 4: Not at this time, but has it given me more
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  Speaker 4: of a thought that something like that could be.
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  Speaker 2: Possible in time? Yeah, I think I'm kind of open.
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  Speaker 4: To that being the case now in a way that
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that I would have really believed had
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  Speaker 4: you tried to sell me on a week or two
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  Speaker 4: even ago. I mean, there was such reaction after Larkin's...
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  Speaker 4: He hadn't spoken about it all summer, and he had
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  Speaker 4: the press conference to start a training camp, and fan
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  Speaker 4: reaction to that was not good.
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  Speaker 2: And at that point, I thought, oh, this is going
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  Speaker 2: to be an issue all year. But I also don't
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  Speaker 2: know that fans were expecting... what they saw out of
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  Speaker 2: Larkin in game one. I think, you know, I've.
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  Speaker 4: Covered Dylan my entire career and this guy loves hockey.
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  Speaker 2: He plays hard. It's who he is.
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  Speaker 4: It's why he was such a valuable piece of that
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  Speaker 4: team USA. If he was out there, he was going
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  Speaker 4: to play and he was going to play hard.
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  Speaker 2: And I, that's exactly what he did.
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  Speaker 4: And so, you know, there's a lot that can go
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  Speaker 4: into everything around this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to speak for Dylan.
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  Speaker 4: He hasn't spoken about it himself about, you know, what
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  Speaker 4: really was motivating this, but I do think, when you
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  Speaker 4: look at the situation from the outside and you see
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  Speaker 4: a player who has spent, you know, his entire career
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  Speaker 4: with this franchise, he hasn't been to the playoffs since
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  Speaker 4: his rookie year. He's been at the center of this
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  Speaker 4: rebuild that he's gone through a lot of, uh, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of lows with this franchise and stuck around through
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  Speaker 4: them all. Um, I can understand how it, when someone
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  Speaker 4: kind of gets into their thirties that, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 4: winning would become feel really urgent in a way. And again,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying Dylan has said that this is me
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  Speaker 4: kind of reading the situation. And then there's also the
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  Speaker 4: reality that he and Steve Eisenman, I don't think it's
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  Speaker 4: a secret, kind of did have a difficult dynamic, especially
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  Speaker 4: toward the end there. So I look at those things
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  Speaker 4: and I think, you know, Dylan Larkin and the Red
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  Speaker 4: Wings are aligned in that they want to win. And
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  Speaker 4: the Red Wings fans are aligned in that. And I
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  Speaker 4: think if that happens, I'm never going to say never
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  Speaker 4: on anything of how I can see this playing out,
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  Speaker 4: but that's something really.
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  Speaker 2: Only Dylan, only residents at RMG.
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  Speaker 4: And Sean Orkoff ultimately can speak to and ultimately can
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  Speaker 4: have kind of control over.
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  Speaker 1: Max Bultman joins us right now on the Beacon Plumbing
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  Speaker 1: Hotline from The Athletic here on Kraken Weekly. Another name
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  Speaker 1: who is right now out of the picture and still
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  Speaker 1: is at this point is Simon Edmondson, a big, burly,
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  Speaker 1: talented left-shot defenseman, first-round draft pick back in 2021. He
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  Speaker 1: is an RFA right now, and he and the organization
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  Speaker 1: are in the middle of a contract standoff. First off,
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  Speaker 1: how much has he made an impact on that blue
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  Speaker 1: line at just age 23? And to you, what are
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  Speaker 1: the odds that he plays another game in Detroit?
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  Speaker 4: I still think it's a fair chance of this. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 4: no one's commenting on this situation from afar, but I
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  Speaker 4: know the Red Wings have said pretty recently that they...
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  Speaker 4: It's a priority to sign, as I said. It may
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  Speaker 4: mean that they have to kind of get their heads
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  Speaker 4: around what that number is. Obviously, him going back to
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  Speaker 4: Sweden is a bad sign. It's a sign that things
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  Speaker 4: really went off.
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  Speaker 2: A cliff in a hurry.
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  Speaker 4: But the thing I keep coming back to is that
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  Speaker 4: if this was August and they were three weeks into
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  Speaker 4: a negotiation and at a standstill, I don't even know
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  Speaker 4: that we'd have heard about it. I mean, how often
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  Speaker 4: does that happen in the course of summers is that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, your first offer isn't going to be accepted.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that the big difference here is that, A,
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  Speaker 4: we have the visual of Edmonton being in camp one day,
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  Speaker 4: being practicing with the Red Wings one day, and then
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  Speaker 4: in Sweden skating with Ferlanda the next. And two, it's
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  Speaker 4: that the player really did make a great faith effort
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  Speaker 4: to come here with no contract, with no GM at
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  Speaker 4: the time that he was, uh, well, I guess they
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  Speaker 4: would have had a GM two days before camp open,
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  Speaker 4: but only, only just having a GM to show up
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  Speaker 4: to camp, uh, and, and play on a PTO through camp. And, uh, I,
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  Speaker 4: you know, when you have a player make that kind
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  Speaker 4: of overture and try to do something in kind of
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  Speaker 4: the interest of a team like that to not, not
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  Speaker 4: be behind, uh, and then the negotiations don't go well quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, that's another kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of big factor that, that is impossible not to, not
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  Speaker 4: to notice in all this. Right. So, I still think
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  Speaker 4: there's a path to Edmonton signing in Detroit personally, but
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  Speaker 4: nobody's really commenting, so it's hard to say that with certainty.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: That's kind of my read on this. I still kind
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: of believe that at the end of the day, cooler
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: heads prevail here, and everyone sees that it is in
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: everyone's best interest to come to the right conclusion here,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: which in my opinion is a long-term deal for Edmonton
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: and Detroit.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: With Steve Iserman out, Sean Horkoff is in now as
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: interim GM. And also recently, Chris Draper, of course, a
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: longtime Red Wing great from those teams back in the
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: 90s and 2000s as well. He also experiences a shift
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: in his role more toward the pro scouting side. So
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: at this point, what are we learning about the change
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: in the voice in the front office and how this
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: also can wield some influence?
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think, you know, the it's the front
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: office that needed some change. And, uh, Corey Proudman, one
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: of our, uh, writers at the athletic reported that the
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: ribbons are also going to bring Mark Leach in, who
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: was a, uh, scout. He was previously the scouting director,
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: amateur scouting director for the Toronto Maple Leafs. But before
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: that he was, uh, he was with the Dallas stars.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: And before that he was with the red wings and
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: then with the stars in a gym, no, which was
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: a franchise that has drafted quite well. So I think
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: that's a big name that they're adding to their front
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: office as well. Some of this other stuff, they're in flux.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: You're going to have to do some moving around and
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: get some new perspectives on different departments and maybe some
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: new voices in high-level positions. Chris Draper, like you said,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: will be going from overseeing the amateur to overseeing the pro. Look,
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: the pro scouting in Detroit has taken a lot of
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: hits over the last several years. When Mark Howe retired,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: they never formally replaced him as their director of pro scouting.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: They still had pro scouts, of course, but I think
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: having a voice like Chris Draper there, does that bring
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: some new perspective? Could that bring some kind of new structure?
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the result of it will be,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: but I think trying something in that department makes a
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: lot of sense for what some of the Red Wings'
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: shortcomings have been over the last few years.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: The Red Wings got their first win of the season.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: over Ottawa back on Tuesday night, 5-3. Among the names
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: that we saw pop up in the score sheet, Victor Arvidsson,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: he's been around here for quite a bit, but what
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: are we learning about the role that he could play
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: here on this team in the absence of Patrick Kane,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: who is moving on back to his old team in Chicago?
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: It's the role that he was signed to play, which
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: is a top six scoring winger. Ideally, they would have
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: him I really helped their five-on-five scoring, which is an issue. Ironically,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I think both of his goals so far are on
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: the power play. But the Red Wings will take him
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: any way they can get.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Him right now.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: This is a team that was shut out on opening night,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: had two goals in their first two games. They have
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: the outpouring on Tuesday when Larkin comes back in the
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: lineup and score five. I don't know how many nights
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: this year they're going to be able to put five
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: on the board, but they're going to need Victor.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Arvidsson to be a big part of their attack. And
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: that's why they went and got him.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: He's a guy that doesn't just score kind of the
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: pretty goal he can score from, hard areas, can do
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: it at five on five, can get to the middle
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: of the ice.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Those are all things that this Red Wings team needs.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: That's Max Bultman joining us. And again, that full conversation,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: by the way, up right now at the Kraken Audio
• 20:04
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• 20:08
  Speaker 1: without Jacob Melanson, upper body injury, Ryan Lindgren out, upper
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: body injury. And for the record, Jake O'Brien. yet to
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: make his NHL debut outright now with a lower body injury.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: The Kraken trying to stop not just the likes of
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Dylan Larkin, but also Alex DeBrinckit. Last season, 85 points,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: 41 goals, both led the Red Wings, and he's got
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: points in eight straight matchups against the Kraken. For the
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: record on the Kraken side, Jordan Eberle carries points in
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: four consecutive games. And with a goal or an assist tonight,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: he will set a new benchmark in Kraken history for
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: longest point streak to open a regular season. And while
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: he's back in Michigan, former Wolverine Matty Beneers also on
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the cusp of a milestone. One more goal or an
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: assist will make 200 points for his NHL career. A
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: lot to look after here for this evening. We'll get
• 21:02
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• 21:05
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• 21:08
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• 21:10
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• 21:13
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• 21:16
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• 21:19
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• 21:23
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• 21:26
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