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Live from Annecy: AI in Animation, How the Festival Works, and Why the "AI Category" Won't Last · Kids Media Club Podcast

• 0:06
  Hello
• 0:06
  and
• 0:06
  welcome
• 0:07
  to
• 0:07
  another
• 0:07
  episode
• 0:08
  of
• 0:08
  the
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  Kids
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  Media
• 0:09
  Club
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  podcast.
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  I'm
• 0:10
  Jo
• 0:10
  Redfern.
• 0:11
  I'm
• 0:11
  Emily
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  Horgan.
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  And
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  our
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  EVP
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  of
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  Technical
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  usually
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  gives
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  me
• 0:15
  hassle
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  about
• 0:16
  my
• 0:17
  squeaky
• 0:17
  chair.
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  And
• 0:18
  I'm
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  about
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  to
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  give
• 0:19
  him
• 0:19
  hassle
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  about
• 0:19
  the
• 0:20
  birds
• 0:20
  that
• 0:20
  I
• 0:20
  can
• 0:20
  hear
• 0:21
  really
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  clearly
• 0:22
  singing
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  in
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  the
• 0:23
  background
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  against
• 0:23
  the
• 0:23
  blue
• 0:24
  sky
• 0:24
  in
• 0:24
  Annecy.
• 0:25
  Andy
• 0:25
  Williams.
• 0:27
  Look
• 0:27
  at
• 0:27
  this.
• 0:28
  I
• 0:28
  had
• 0:28
  to
• 0:28
  wear
• 0:28
  my.
• 0:29
  The
• 0:29
  regulation
• 0:30
  sunglasses
• 0:31
  here.
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  Yeah.
• 0:32
  I
• 0:32
  mean,
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  Annecy
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  Animation
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  Festival
• 0:34
  and
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  it's
• 0:35
  a.
• 0:35
  See,
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  very,
• 0:36
  very
• 0:36
  hot.
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  So
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  I
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  hate
• 0:37
  to
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  be
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  the
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  English
• 0:38
  guy
• 0:38
  that's
• 0:38
  complaining
• 0:39
  about
• 0:39
  it
• 0:39
  being
• 0:39
  too
• 0:39
  hot,
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  but
• 0:40
  it's
• 0:41
  dangerously
• 0:41
  close
• 0:42
  to
• 0:42
  being
• 0:42
  too
• 0:42
  hot.
• 0:43
  Oh,
• 0:43
  mate,
• 0:44
  I
• 0:44
  saw
• 0:44
  you
• 0:44
  post
• 0:44
  that
• 0:45
  on
• 0:45
  LinkedIn
• 0:45
  and
• 0:45
  I
• 0:45
  was
• 0:46
  like,
• 0:47
  I
• 0:47
  usually
• 0:48
  run
• 0:48
  to
• 0:48
  like
• 0:48
  your
• 0:48
  posts.
• 0:49
  I'm
• 0:49
  like,
• 0:49
  oh,
• 0:49
  should
• 0:50
  you
• 0:50
  be
• 0:50
  any
• 0:50
  more
• 0:50
  British?
• 0:51
  Yeah.
• 0:53
  Not
• 0:53
  get
• 0:53
  a
• 0:53
  like
• 0:54
  for
• 0:54
  that.
• 0:54
  Move
• 0:54
  on,
• 0:54
  Andy.
• 0:55
  I
• 0:55
  know,
• 0:56
  but
• 0:56
  yeah,
• 0:57
  it's.
• 0:58
  There's
• 0:58
  a
• 0:58
  good
• 0:58
  atmosphere.
• 0:59
  Yes.
• 1:00
  Yesterday
• 1:00
  it
• 1:01
  was
• 1:01
  still
• 1:01
  in
• 1:01
  the.
• 1:01
  There
• 1:02
  was.
• 1:02
  There's
• 1:02
  like
• 1:02
  a
• 1:02
  musical
• 1:03
  festival,
• 1:04
  sort
• 1:04
  of
• 1:04
  a
• 1:05
  music
• 1:05
  solstice
• 1:06
  happening.
• 1:07
  So
• 1:07
  every
• 1:07
  street
• 1:08
  corner
• 1:08
  was
• 1:09
  DJs
• 1:10
  or
• 1:10
  live
• 1:10
  bands
• 1:10
  yesterday,
• 1:11
  which
• 1:11
  was,
• 1:12
  yeah,
• 1:12
  an
• 1:12
  interesting
• 1:13
  way
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  to
• 1:14
  arrive.
• 1:14
  Wow,
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  what
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  a
• 1:15
  privileged
• 1:16
  industry
• 1:16
  we
• 1:16
  work
• 1:17
  in.
• 1:17
  I
• 1:17
  know,
• 1:18
  yeah.
• 1:18
  I
• 1:18
  have,
• 1:19
  I
• 1:19
  have
• 1:20
  visions
• 1:20
  of
• 1:21
  overheated
• 1:21
  animation
• 1:22
  execs
• 1:23
  paddling
• 1:23
  in
• 1:23
  the
• 1:23
  shores
• 1:24
  of
• 1:24
  the
• 1:24
  lake
• 1:24
  to
• 1:25
  cool
• 1:25
  down.
• 1:26
  Gotta
• 1:26
  do
• 1:26
  what
• 1:26
  you
• 1:27
  gotta
• 1:27
  do,
• 1:27
  man.
• 1:28
  Yeah.
• 1:28
  I
• 1:28
  think
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  the
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  other
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  thing
• 1:29
  people
• 1:30
  start
• 1:30
  to
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  realize
• 1:31
  is
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  that
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  they've
• 1:32
  booked.
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  They
• 1:33
  might
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  have
• 1:34
  booked
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  a
• 1:34
  meeting
• 1:34
  in
• 1:34
  the
• 1:34
  old
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  town
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  and
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  then
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  there'll
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  be
• 1:35
  another
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  meeting
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  in
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  Imperial.
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  And
• 1:37
  they've
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  really
• 1:38
  underestimated
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  how
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  easy
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  or
• 1:40
  quickly
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  they
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  can
• 1:41
  get
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  from
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  one
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  to
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  the
• 1:42
  other.
• 1:42
  So
• 1:43
  there's
• 1:43
  a
• 1:43
  lot
• 1:43
  of
• 1:43
  producers
• 1:44
  dashing
• 1:44
  from
• 1:45
  one
• 1:45
  location
• 1:46
  to
• 1:46
  the
• 1:46
  other
• 1:46
  to
• 1:46
  make
• 1:46
  their
• 1:47
  meetings.
• 1:47
  But
• 1:47
  yeah,
• 1:48
  it's
• 1:48
  good
• 1:48
  and
• 1:49
  it's,
• 1:50
  it's
• 1:50
  just
• 1:50
  kicking
• 1:50
  off
• 1:51
  now,
• 1:51
  but
• 1:51
  already
• 1:51
  there's
• 1:53
  the
• 1:53
  subject
• 1:54
  of
• 1:54
  AI
• 1:54
  and
• 1:55
  animation
• 1:55
  is
• 1:56
  raising
• 1:57
  its
• 1:57
  head,
• 1:58
  which
• 1:59
  it
• 1:59
  has
• 1:59
  done,
• 1:59
  I
• 2:00
  think,
• 2:00
  for
• 2:00
  the
• 2:01
  last.
• 2:02
  I
• 2:02
  mean,
• 2:02
  the
• 2:02
  last
• 2:03
  two
• 2:03
  or
• 2:03
  three.
• 2:03
  Anna
• 2:04
  C.
• 2:04
  It's
• 2:04
  definitely
• 2:05
  been
• 2:06
  a
• 2:06
  feature.
• 2:06
  Of
• 2:06
  the
• 2:06
  conversation
• 2:09
  and
• 2:09
  you're
• 2:09
  a
• 2:09
  regular
• 2:09
  at
• 2:10
  Annecy,
• 2:10
  so
• 2:11
  tell
• 2:11
  us
• 2:11
  how
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  that
• 2:12
  conversation
• 2:12
  around
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  AI
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  has
• 2:13
  shifted
• 2:14
  because
• 2:14
  already
• 2:15
  I've
• 2:15
  seen
• 2:15
  a
• 2:15
  couple
• 2:16
  of
• 2:16
  people
• 2:16
  say
• 2:17
  it's
• 2:17
  the
• 2:17
  hot
• 2:17
  topic.
• 2:18
  As
• 2:18
  soon
• 2:18
  as
• 2:18
  I
• 2:18
  arrived
• 2:19
  in
• 2:19
  Annecy,
• 2:19
  it
• 2:19
  was
• 2:20
  the
• 2:20
  thing
• 2:20
  that
• 2:20
  everybody
• 2:20
  was
• 2:20
  speaking
• 2:21
  about.
• 2:21
  But
• 2:21
  you've
• 2:22
  been
• 2:22
  there
• 2:22
  for
• 2:22
  several
• 2:22
  years
• 2:23
  on
• 2:23
  the
• 2:23
  trot.
• 2:23
  How's
• 2:23
  it
• 2:24
  is.
• 2:24
  How
• 2:25
  has
• 2:25
  it
• 2:25
  evolved
• 2:26
  from
• 2:26
  last
• 2:26
  year?
• 2:27
  Well,
• 2:28
  I
• 2:28
  think
• 2:28
  the
• 2:29
  makeup
• 2:29
  of
• 2:29
  Annecy
• 2:30
  is
• 2:30
  quite
• 2:31
  unique
• 2:31
  because
• 2:31
  it's.
• 2:32
  There's
• 2:33
  a
• 2:33
  large
• 2:34
  element
• 2:34
  of
• 2:34
  animation
• 2:35
  students
• 2:36
  here.
• 2:37
  There's
• 2:38
  also
• 2:38
  a
• 2:38
  lot
• 2:38
  of
• 2:38
  producers
• 2:39
  of
• 2:39
  animation.
• 2:40
  And
• 2:40
  it's
• 2:40
  a
• 2:40
  festival
• 2:40
  where
• 2:41
  they're
• 2:41
  showing
• 2:42
  animated
• 2:43
  films
• 2:43
  and
• 2:44
  shorts.
• 2:44
  And
• 2:45
  so
• 2:45
  it's
• 2:45
  very
• 2:45
  much
• 2:46
  a
• 2:46
  showcase
• 2:46
  of
• 2:46
  that.
• 2:46
  So
• 2:47
  it's
• 2:47
  like
• 2:47
  a.
• 2:48
  You
• 2:48
  get
• 2:48
  a
• 2:48
  real
• 2:48
  meeting
• 2:49
  of
• 2:50
  industry,
• 2:51
  so
• 2:51
  you'll
• 2:52
  get
• 2:52
  software
• 2:52
  developers
• 2:53
  and
• 2:53
  you'll
• 2:54
  get
• 2:54
  people
• 2:54
  looking
• 2:54
  to
• 2:55
  recruit
• 2:55
  talent.
• 2:56
  You
• 2:57
  get
• 2:57
  a
• 2:57
  lot
• 2:57
  of
• 2:57
  animation
• 2:58
  students,
• 2:58
  and
• 2:58
  then
• 2:59
  you've
• 2:59
  got
• 2:59
  producers
• 2:59
  and
• 3:00
  the
• 3:00
  industry
• 3:01
  in
• 3:01
  terms
• 3:01
  of
• 3:01
  Netflix
• 3:02
  and
• 3:02
  a
• 3:03
  lot
• 3:03
  of
• 3:03
  the
• 3:04
  broadcasters
• 3:04
  and
• 3:04
  platforms
• 3:05
  will
• 3:05
  be
• 3:05
  here.
• 3:06
  And
• 3:06
  so
• 3:06
  because
• 3:06
  of
• 3:07
  that,
• 3:07
  each
• 3:07
  of
• 3:08
  them
• 3:08
  will
• 3:08
  probably
• 3:08
  have
• 3:09
  their
• 3:09
  own
• 3:09
  position
• 3:10
  on
• 3:10
  AI.
• 3:11
  I
• 3:11
  think.
• 3:13
  I
• 3:13
  think
• 3:14
  students
• 3:14
  have
• 3:15
  been
• 3:15
  understandably,
• 3:16
  a
• 3:16
  bit
• 3:16
  nervous
• 3:17
  about
• 3:18
  the
• 3:18
  impact
• 3:18
  it
• 3:19
  will
• 3:19
  have
• 3:19
  on
• 3:19
  the
• 3:19
  job
• 3:20
  market
• 3:20
  when
• 3:20
  they
• 3:21
  leave
• 3:21
  college.
• 3:24
  And
• 3:25
  then
• 3:26
  studios
• 3:27
  and
• 3:27
  execs
• 3:29
  are
• 3:29
  trying
• 3:29
  to
• 3:29
  get
• 3:29
  their
• 3:30
  heads
• 3:30
  around
• 3:30
  how
• 3:30
  it
• 3:31
  can
• 3:31
  be
• 3:31
  incorporated
• 3:32
  into
• 3:32
  the
• 3:32
  workflow.
• 3:33
  And
• 3:33
  up
• 3:34
  to
• 3:34
  now,
• 3:34
  I
• 3:34
  think
• 3:35
  the
• 3:35
  conversation
• 3:35
  has
• 3:36
  been.
• 3:37
  It
• 3:38
  started
• 3:38
  off
• 3:38
  as
• 3:38
  more
• 3:39
  theoretical,
• 3:39
  where
• 3:39
  people
• 3:40
  were
• 3:40
  trying
• 3:40
  to
• 3:41
  wrap
• 3:41
  their
• 3:41
  head
• 3:41
  around
• 3:41
  what
• 3:42
  it
• 3:42
  might
• 3:42
  mean.
• 3:43
  And
• 3:43
  now
• 3:44
  people
• 3:44
  have
• 3:45
  had
• 3:45
  a
• 3:45
  chance
• 3:45
  to
• 3:45
  really
• 3:46
  play
• 3:46
  with
• 3:46
  those
• 3:47
  tools,
• 3:47
  incorporate
• 3:48
  them
• 3:48
  into
• 3:48
  their
• 3:48
  workflows
• 3:49
  and
• 3:50
  decide
• 3:51
  how
• 3:51
  they
• 3:51
  can
• 3:52
  best
• 3:52
  utilize
• 3:52
  it.
• 3:53
  So
• 3:53
  I
• 3:53
  think
• 3:54
  it's
• 3:54
  moved
• 3:55
  on
• 3:55
  to
• 3:55
  more
• 3:56
  of
• 3:56
  a
• 3:56
  practical
• 3:57
  reality
• 3:58
  this
• 3:58
  year
• 3:59
  than
• 4:00
  previous
• 4:00
  years,
• 4:00
  when
• 4:01
  it's
• 4:01
  something
• 4:01
  that
• 4:01
  everyone
• 4:01
  knew
• 4:02
  was
• 4:02
  coming
• 4:03
  and
• 4:03
  they
• 4:03
  were
• 4:04
  sort
• 4:04
  of
• 4:04
  navigating
• 4:05
  their
• 4:06
  positions
• 4:06
  to
• 4:06
  kind
• 4:06
  of
• 4:07
  really
• 4:07
  work
• 4:07
  out
• 4:07
  what
• 4:07
  it
• 4:08
  meant.
• 4:08
  But
• 4:08
  now
• 4:08
  it's
• 4:08
  here
• 4:09
  when
• 4:09
  people
• 4:10
  are
• 4:10
  using
• 4:11
  it
• 4:11
  and
• 4:11
  people
• 4:12
  are
• 4:12
  sort
• 4:12
  of
• 4:13
  seeing
• 4:13
  how
• 4:13
  it
• 4:13
  works
• 4:14
  in
• 4:14
  practice.
• 4:15
  So
• 4:15
  that's.
• 4:16
  That's
• 4:16
  the
• 4:17
  change
• 4:17
  that
• 4:17
  I
• 4:17
  can
• 4:17
  see.
• 4:18
  Is
• 4:18
  it.
• 4:18
  Is
• 4:18
  it
• 4:18
  like
• 4:18
  the
• 4:19
  philosophical.
• 4:20
  The.
• 4:21
  Some
• 4:22
  people
• 4:22
  sat
• 4:22
  there
• 4:22
  having
• 4:22
  a
• 4:22
  philosophical
• 4:23
  question
• 4:23
  about
• 4:23
  it.
• 4:24
  Yeah.
• 4:24
  Other
• 4:25
  people
• 4:25
  got
• 4:25
  on,
• 4:25
  started
• 4:26
  using
• 4:26
  it,
• 4:26
  and
• 4:27
  now
• 4:27
  the
• 4:27
  critical
• 4:28
  mass
• 4:28
  of
• 4:28
  people
• 4:29
  who
• 4:29
  were
• 4:29
  having
• 4:29
  a
• 4:29
  philosophical
• 4:31
  discussion
• 4:31
  or
• 4:32
  argument
• 4:33
  about
• 4:33
  it
• 4:34
  versus
• 4:34
  the
• 4:34
  number
• 4:34
  of
• 4:34
  people
• 4:35
  who
• 4:35
  actually
• 4:35
  just
• 4:35
  got
• 4:35
  on
• 4:35
  using
• 4:36
  it
• 4:36
  as
• 4:36
  flipped.
• 4:37
  Yeah,
• 4:38
  I
• 4:38
  think
• 4:38
  so.
• 4:38
  There's
• 4:39
  definitely
• 4:39
  a
• 4:39
  lot
• 4:39
  of.
• 4:40
  I
• 4:40
  mean,
• 4:40
  there
• 4:41
  will
• 4:41
  be
• 4:42
  AI
• 4:43
  animated
• 4:43
  movies
• 4:44
  that
• 4:44
  are
• 4:44
  part
• 4:44
  of
• 4:45
  the
• 4:45
  festival,
• 4:46
  and
• 4:47
  so
• 4:47
  there
• 4:47
  are
• 4:47
  definitely
• 4:47
  people
• 4:48
  kind
• 4:48
  of
• 4:48
  using
• 4:48
  it.
• 4:49
  But
• 4:49
  in
• 4:49
  some
• 4:50
  ways
• 4:50
  I've.
• 4:51
  And
• 4:51
  I.
• 4:51
  And
• 4:51
  I
• 4:52
  think
• 4:52
  the.
• 4:53
  You
• 4:53
  get
• 4:53
  the
• 4:53
  feeling
• 4:54
  that
• 4:54
  maybe
• 4:55
  the.
• 4:55
  The
• 4:55
  people
• 4:56
  that
• 4:56
  are
• 4:56
  embracing
• 4:57
  it
• 4:57
  or
• 4:57
  kind
• 4:57
  of
• 4:57
  pragmatically
• 4:58
  using
• 4:59
  it,
• 4:59
  that
• 4:59
  contingent
• 5:00
  is
• 5:00
  definitely
• 5:00
  growing
• 5:02
  and
• 5:02
  people
• 5:02
  are
• 5:03
  sort
• 5:03
  of
• 5:03
  modern,
• 5:04
  sort
• 5:04
  of.
• 5:05
  They're
• 5:05
  adjusting
• 5:06
  and
• 5:06
  amending
• 5:06
  kind
• 5:07
  of
• 5:07
  their
• 5:07
  thoughts
• 5:08
  on
• 5:08
  it
• 5:08
  as
• 5:09
  it
• 5:09
  becomes
• 5:09
  more
• 5:09
  a
• 5:09
  reality.
• 5:10
  And
• 5:10
  I
• 5:10
  think
• 5:10
  the.
• 5:12
  But
• 5:12
  there's
• 5:12
  still
• 5:12
  a
• 5:13
  very
• 5:13
  large
• 5:13
  passionate
• 5:15
  sort
• 5:16
  of
• 5:16
  contingent
• 5:17
  that
• 5:17
  just
• 5:18
  see
• 5:18
  it
• 5:18
  as
• 5:19
  something
• 5:20
  to
• 5:20
  be
• 5:21
  opposed
• 5:22
  to
• 5:22
  at
• 5:23
  all
• 5:23
  costs.
• 5:24
  And,
• 5:24
  and
• 5:25
  is
• 5:25
  the
• 5:25
  worry,
• 5:26
  because
• 5:26
  obviously
• 5:26
  you've
• 5:26
  got
• 5:27
  a
• 5:27
  lot
• 5:27
  of
• 5:27
  students
• 5:27
  there,
• 5:28
  so
• 5:28
  by
• 5:28
  nature,
• 5:28
  them
• 5:29
  at
• 5:29
  the
• 5:29
  beginning
• 5:30
  of
• 5:30
  their
• 5:30
  careers,
• 5:31
  they're
• 5:31
  more
• 5:31
  junior.
• 5:32
  Is
• 5:33
  the
• 5:33
  nervousness
• 5:33
  that
• 5:34
  it
• 5:34
  potentially
• 5:36
  impacts
• 5:36
  their
• 5:36
  ability
• 5:37
  to
• 5:37
  get
• 5:37
  into
• 5:38
  the
• 5:38
  industry
• 5:38
  at
• 5:39
  that
• 5:39
  kind
• 5:39
  of
• 5:39
  junior
• 5:39
  level.
• 5:40
  Yeah,
• 5:40
  absolutely.
• 5:41
  Because
• 5:42
  it
• 5:43
  also,
• 5:44
  I
• 5:45
  mean,
• 5:45
  I
• 5:45
  think
• 5:45
  inevitably
• 5:46
  what
• 5:46
  it
• 5:46
  does,
• 5:47
  it
• 5:47
  will
• 5:47
  remove
• 5:48
  some
• 5:48
  junior
• 5:48
  roles,
• 5:49
  which
• 5:49
  are
• 5:51
  what
• 5:51
  I
• 5:51
  think
• 5:52
  students
• 5:53
  and
• 5:54
  graduates
• 5:55
  will
• 5:55
  end
• 5:55
  up
• 5:56
  feeling
• 5:56
  like
• 5:57
  that's
• 5:57
  the
• 5:57
  rung
• 5:58
  of
• 5:58
  the
• 5:58
  ladder
• 5:58
  that
• 5:58
  they
• 5:59
  can
• 5:59
  then
• 6:00
  climb
• 6:00
  on
• 6:00
  and
• 6:01
  sort
• 6:01
  of.
• 6:02
  And
• 6:02
  start
• 6:03
  their
• 6:03
  career
• 6:03
  with.
• 6:04
  And,
• 6:05
  and
• 6:05
  it
• 6:06
  will
• 6:06
  remove
• 6:06
  some
• 6:06
  of
• 6:06
  those,
• 6:06
  I
• 6:07
  think
• 6:07
  inevitably.
• 6:09
  It
• 6:09
  does
• 6:09
  also
• 6:10
  give
• 6:10
  space
• 6:10
  for
• 6:11
  different
• 6:11
  roles,
• 6:12
  I
• 6:12
  suppose.
• 6:13
  And
• 6:13
  there's
• 6:14
  always
• 6:14
  different
• 6:14
  roles
• 6:15
  that.
• 6:15
  You
• 6:15
  know
• 6:15
  what
• 6:15
  I
• 6:15
  mean?
• 6:15
  Like
• 6:15
  there's,
• 6:16
  there's
• 6:16
  lots
• 6:16
  of
• 6:16
  ways,
• 6:17
  intermediate,
• 6:17
  you
• 6:18
  know,
• 6:19
  just
• 6:19
  one
• 6:19
  way.
• 6:21
  And
• 6:21
  the
• 6:21
  opportunity
• 6:22
  it
• 6:22
  gives
• 6:22
  to
• 6:22
  students
• 6:23
  to
• 6:23
  take
• 6:23
  their
• 6:23
  own
• 6:25
  creative
• 6:25
  swings
• 6:26
  into
• 6:26
  their
• 6:26
  own
• 6:26
  hands
• 6:26
  and
• 6:27
  stuff
• 6:27
  like
• 6:27
  that.
• 6:27
  There's,
• 6:27
  you
• 6:28
  know,
• 6:28
  there
• 6:28
  is
• 6:28
  an
• 6:28
  enablement
• 6:29
  factor
• 6:29
  of
• 6:29
  it
• 6:29
  too.
• 6:30
  Yeah,
• 6:30
  I
• 6:31
  mean,
• 6:31
  I
• 6:31
  think
• 6:31
  one
• 6:31
  of
• 6:31
  the
• 6:31
  things
• 6:32
  that.
• 6:32
  I've
• 6:32
  spoken
• 6:33
  to
• 6:33
  a
• 6:33
  number
• 6:33
  of
• 6:34
  animation
• 6:35
  studios
• 6:36
  here
• 6:36
  that
• 6:36
  are
• 6:36
  using
• 6:37
  it
• 6:37
  and
• 6:38
  I
• 6:38
  think
• 6:38
  it's
• 6:39
  definitely
• 6:39
  going
• 6:39
  to,
• 6:40
  it's
• 6:41
  going
• 6:41
  to
• 6:41
  present
• 6:41
  an
• 6:42
  advantage
• 6:42
  to
• 6:43
  smaller,
• 6:43
  more
• 6:43
  nimble
• 6:44
  companies
• 6:44
  to
• 6:45
  be
• 6:45
  able
• 6:45
  to
• 6:45
  really
• 6:46
  amplify
• 6:46
  what
• 6:47
  they,
• 6:48
  what
• 6:48
  they
• 6:48
  can
• 6:48
  do.
• 6:49
  And
• 6:49
  so
• 6:50
  for
• 6:50
  newer
• 6:51
  entrants
• 6:51
  into
• 6:51
  the,
• 6:52
  into
• 6:52
  the
• 6:53
  industry,
• 6:54
  I
• 6:54
  can
• 6:54
  see
• 6:54
  there
• 6:55
  being
• 6:55
  a
• 6:55
  big
• 6:55
  advantage
• 6:56
  to
• 6:56
  that.
• 6:59
  So,
• 6:59
  yeah,
• 7:02
  it's
• 7:02
  been
• 7:02
  interesting.
• 7:04
  One
• 7:04
  of
• 7:04
  the
• 7:04
  things
• 7:04
  I
• 7:05
  think
• 7:05
  is
• 7:05
  going
• 7:05
  to
• 7:05
  fall
• 7:05
  away
• 7:06
  a
• 7:06
  bit
• 7:06
  is
• 7:06
  that
• 7:07
  this
• 7:07
  idea
• 7:07
  that
• 7:08
  there's
• 7:08
  like
• 7:09
  an
• 7:09
  AI
• 7:11
  animated
• 7:11
  category,
• 7:12
  I
• 7:12
  feel
• 7:12
  like
• 7:13
  that
• 7:13
  reminds
• 7:14
  me
• 7:14
  a
• 7:14
  bit
• 7:14
  of
• 7:14
  when
• 7:16
  Toy
• 7:16
  Story
• 7:16
  came
• 7:17
  out
• 7:17
  and
• 7:17
  you
• 7:17
  effectively
• 7:18
  and
• 7:18
  you
• 7:18
  had
• 7:19
  a
• 7:19
  different
• 7:20
  category
• 7:20
  for
• 7:20
  CGI
• 7:21
  animation.
• 7:21
  Whereas
• 7:22
  now
• 7:23
  CGI
• 7:24
  animation
• 7:24
  is
• 7:24
  kind
• 7:24
  of
• 7:25
  everywhere.
• 7:25
  Even
• 7:25
  in,
• 7:26
  even
• 7:26
  in
• 7:27
  a
• 7:27
  stop
• 7:27
  motion
• 7:28
  animated
• 7:28
  movie,
• 7:28
  there'll
• 7:29
  be
• 7:29
  elements
• 7:30
  of
• 7:30
  CGI
• 7:31
  animation.
• 7:31
  So
• 7:32
  it
• 7:32
  becomes
• 7:32
  a
• 7:32
  bit
• 7:32
  of,
• 7:32
  a
• 7:33
  bit
• 7:33
  of
• 7:34
  a
• 7:34
  meaningless
• 7:34
  category.
• 7:35
  And
• 7:35
  I
• 7:35
  think
• 7:36
  in
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  same
• 7:36
  way
• 7:37
  AI
• 7:38
  animation
• 7:39
  will
• 7:39
  become
• 7:39
  a
• 7:40
  little
• 7:40
  bit
• 7:40
  mean
• 7:40
  this
• 7:41
  as
• 7:41
  it
• 7:42
  will
• 7:42
  kind
• 7:42
  of
• 7:42
  feature
• 7:43
  in
• 7:43
  so
• 7:43
  many
• 7:43
  different
• 7:44
  varieties
• 7:44
  of
• 7:45
  animation.
• 7:45
  And
• 7:45
  I
• 7:46
  think
• 7:46
  hybrid
• 7:47
  animation
• 7:49
  is
• 7:49
  kind
• 7:49
  of
• 7:49
  going
• 7:49
  to
• 7:50
  be
• 7:50
  the
• 7:50
  way
• 7:51
  people
• 7:51
  are
• 7:51
  going
• 7:51
  to
• 7:51
  use
• 7:51
  it.
• 7:52
  I
• 7:52
  don't
• 7:52
  think
• 7:52
  you're
• 7:52
  going
• 7:52
  to
• 7:52
  get
• 7:53
  a
• 7:53
  lot
• 7:53
  of
• 7:53
  people
• 7:53
  where
• 7:54
  it's
• 7:54
  just
• 7:55
  wholly
• 7:56
  done
• 7:57
  with
• 7:57
  AI
• 7:58
  and
• 7:58
  generative
• 7:59
  AI.
• 7:59
  I
• 7:59
  think
• 7:59
  it's
• 8:00
  always,
• 8:00
  I
• 8:00
  think
• 8:01
  it's
• 8:01
  going
• 8:01
  to
• 8:01
  become
• 8:01
  a
• 8:01
  component
• 8:02
  of
• 8:03
  an
• 8:03
  overall
• 8:04
  hybrid
• 8:05
  animated
• 8:06
  kind
• 8:06
  of
• 8:07
  way
• 8:07
  of
• 8:07
  approaching.
• 8:10
  Feels
• 8:11
  like
• 8:11
  we've
• 8:12
  been
• 8:12
  in
• 8:13
  this
• 8:13
  movie
• 8:13
  before
• 8:14
  in
• 8:14
  terms
• 8:14
  of
• 8:15
  those
• 8:15
  technological
• 8:16
  advancements
• 8:17
  that
• 8:18
  come
• 8:18
  along
• 8:18
  and
• 8:19
  for
• 8:19
  a
• 8:19
  while
• 8:20
  everybody
• 8:20
  talks
• 8:21
  about
• 8:21
  them
• 8:21
  and
• 8:21
  then
• 8:21
  they
• 8:21
  either
• 8:22
  disappear
• 8:22
  or
• 8:22
  they
• 8:22
  just
• 8:23
  become
• 8:23
  so
• 8:24
  embedded
• 8:24
  into
• 8:25
  that
• 8:25
  creative
• 8:25
  process,
• 8:26
  they
• 8:27
  almost,
• 8:28
  I
• 8:28
  mean,
• 8:28
  it's
• 8:28
  picks
• 8:29
  and
• 8:29
  shovels.
• 8:29
  Isn't
• 8:29
  it?
• 8:30
  It's
• 8:30
  part
• 8:30
  of
• 8:31
  that
• 8:31
  creative
• 8:32
  process
• 8:32
  as
• 8:32
  you
• 8:32
  go
• 8:33
  along.
• 8:33
  So
• 8:34
  as
• 8:34
  someone
• 8:34
  who's
• 8:34
  never
• 8:35
  been
• 8:35
  to
• 8:35
  Annecy
• 8:35
  and
• 8:36
  who
• 8:36
  would
• 8:36
  love
• 8:36
  to
• 8:36
  go,
• 8:37
  I
• 8:37
  want
• 8:37
  to
• 8:37
  know
• 8:38
  what
• 8:38
  does
• 8:38
  a
• 8:39
  typical
• 8:39
  day
• 8:39
  look
• 8:39
  like?
• 8:39
  Andy,
• 8:40
  tell
• 8:40
  us.
• 8:40
  I
• 8:40
  mean
• 8:40
  obviously
• 8:41
  you're
• 8:41
  highfalutin
• 8:41
  and
• 8:42
  high
• 8:42
  flying
• 8:42
  and
• 8:43
  having
• 8:43
  all
• 8:43
  of
• 8:43
  these
• 8:44
  high
• 8:44
  powered
• 8:44
  meetings.
• 8:45
  There
• 8:46
  was
• 8:46
  definitely.
• 8:46
  There'll
• 8:46
  be
• 8:46
  a
• 8:46
  lot
• 8:47
  of
• 8:47
  meetings.
• 8:47
  Some
• 8:47
  people
• 8:47
  will
• 8:48
  just
• 8:48
  be
• 8:49
  based
• 8:49
  permanently
• 8:50
  at
• 8:50
  the
• 8:50
  Imperial,
• 8:51
  which
• 8:51
  is
• 8:51
  the
• 8:51
  kind
• 8:52
  of
• 8:52
  the
• 8:52
  very
• 8:52
  grand
• 8:53
  hotel.
• 8:53
  So
• 8:53
  they'll
• 8:54
  be
• 8:54
  permanently
• 8:54
  placed
• 8:55
  in
• 8:55
  the
• 8:55
  bar
• 8:55
  there
• 8:56
  and.
• 8:57
  And
• 8:57
  everyone
• 8:57
  will
• 8:58
  come
• 8:58
  to
• 8:58
  them
• 9:00
  and
• 9:00
  so
• 9:00
  they'll
• 9:00
  have
• 9:01
  kind
• 9:01
  of
• 9:01
  a
• 9:01
  table
• 9:01
  that
• 9:01
  they
• 9:02
  won't
• 9:02
  really
• 9:02
  have
• 9:02
  to
• 9:02
  move
• 9:02
  from.
• 9:03
  And
• 9:03
  then
• 9:04
  do
• 9:04
  you
• 9:04
  need
• 9:04
  to
• 9:04
  like
• 9:04
  have
• 9:05
  a
• 9:05
  ticket?
• 9:05
  Do
• 9:05
  you
• 9:05
  buy
• 9:06
  it?
• 9:06
  Like
• 9:06
  will
• 9:06
  you
• 9:07
  buy
• 9:07
  it?
• 9:07
  Do
• 9:07
  you
• 9:07
  buy
• 9:07
  a
• 9:08
  table?
• 9:08
  I
• 9:08
  took
• 9:08
  it
• 9:09
  to
• 9:09
  Annecy
• 9:10
  and
• 9:10
  Mipha
• 9:10
  and
• 9:10
  MIFA
• 9:11
  is
• 9:11
  the.
• 9:12
  Effectively
• 9:13
  there's
• 9:13
  a
• 9:13
  sort
• 9:13
  of
• 9:14
  a
• 9:14
  tent
• 9:14
  that's
• 9:15
  next
• 9:15
  to
• 9:15
  the
• 9:15
  Imperial
• 9:16
  where
• 9:17
  there'll
• 9:17
  be
• 9:18
  a
• 9:18
  lot
• 9:18
  of
• 9:18
  stands
• 9:19
  so
• 9:19
  that
• 9:19
  you'll
• 9:19
  have
• 9:20
  people
• 9:20
  like
• 9:20
  Moho
• 9:21
  Animation,
• 9:22
  Blue
• 9:22
  Zoo
• 9:23
  will
• 9:23
  have
• 9:23
  a
• 9:23
  stand,
• 9:24
  you'll
• 9:24
  have
• 9:24
  Anime
• 9:24
  and
• 9:25
  Animation
• 9:25
  UK
• 9:26
  will
• 9:26
  have
• 9:26
  a
• 9:26
  stand
• 9:27
  there
• 9:28
  and
• 9:28
  so
• 9:29
  there'll
• 9:29
  be
• 9:30
  that
• 9:30
  element
• 9:30
  of
• 9:30
  it
• 9:30
  and
• 9:30
  that
• 9:30
  opens
• 9:31
  tomorrow
• 9:34
  and
• 9:34
  then
• 9:34
  there'll
• 9:34
  be
• 9:34
  the
• 9:34
  festival
• 9:35
  element
• 9:35
  and
• 9:35
  the
• 9:35
  festival.
• 9:36
  There's
• 9:37
  cinemas
• 9:37
  throughout
• 9:38
  Annecy
• 9:39
  and
• 9:40
  so
• 9:40
  there'll
• 9:40
  be
• 9:41
  different
• 9:41
  screenings
• 9:42
  and
• 9:42
  festivals
• 9:43
  on
• 9:44
  across
• 9:44
  the
• 9:44
  town.
• 9:47
  And
• 9:48
  then
• 9:48
  for
• 9:48
  a
• 9:48
  lot
• 9:48
  of
• 9:48
  producers
• 9:49
  they'll
• 9:49
  be
• 9:51
  taking
• 9:51
  meetings
• 9:52
  kind
• 9:52
  of
• 9:52
  in
• 9:52
  different
• 9:53
  bars
• 9:54
  across
• 9:54
  Annecy
• 9:55
  and
• 9:55
  quite
• 9:55
  a
• 9:56
  lot
• 9:56
  of
• 9:56
  people
• 9:56
  will
• 9:56
  come
• 9:56
  without
• 9:57
  getting
• 9:57
  a
• 9:57
  ticket
• 9:57
  and
• 9:58
  they'll
• 9:58
  just
• 9:58
  take
• 9:59
  meetings
• 10:01
  by
• 10:01
  the
• 10:01
  lake
• 10:02
  or
• 10:03
  in
• 10:03
  the
• 10:03
  lake.
• 10:05
  This
• 10:05
  year.
• 10:08
  On
• 10:08
  a
• 10:09
  boat.
• 10:10
  Yeah.
• 10:10
  So
• 10:10
  there's
• 10:11
  kind
• 10:11
  of
• 10:11
  a
• 10:12
  lot
• 10:12
  of
• 10:12
  different
• 10:12
  ways
• 10:12
  that
• 10:13
  people
• 10:13
  approach
• 10:13
  it.
• 10:14
  Okay,
• 10:14
  so
• 10:15
  if
• 10:15
  me
• 10:15
  and
• 10:15
  Joe
• 10:15
  are
• 10:15
  gonna
• 10:16
  go
• 10:16
  next
• 10:16
  year.
• 10:16
  Right.
• 10:17
  So
• 10:17
  you've
• 10:18
  got
• 10:18
  the
• 10:18
  Imperial
• 10:19
  where
• 10:19
  the
• 10:20
  main
• 10:20
  thing,
• 10:20
  you've
• 10:21
  got
• 10:21
  the
• 10:21
  old
• 10:21
  town.
• 10:22
  Yeah,
• 10:22
  I
• 10:22
  suppose
• 10:23
  it
• 10:23
  was
• 10:23
  a
• 10:23
  bit
• 10:23
  like
• 10:23
  what
• 10:24
  used
• 10:24
  to
• 10:24
  be
• 10:24
  with
• 10:24
  the.
• 10:25
  Yeah,
• 10:26
  it's
• 10:26
  a
• 10:26
  little
• 10:26
  bit
• 10:27
  like
• 10:27
  Mipcom.
• 10:27
  You
• 10:27
  don't
• 10:27
  have
• 10:28
  to
• 10:28
  have.
• 10:28
  Well,
• 10:28
  you
• 10:29
  can
• 10:29
  get.
• 10:29
  Get
• 10:29
  away
• 10:29
  without
• 10:29
  having
• 10:30
  a
• 10:30
  ticket.
• 10:31
  Yeah,
• 10:31
  I
• 10:31
  suppose.
• 10:32
  What's,
• 10:32
  what's
• 10:32
  the
• 10:33
  walking
• 10:33
  distance?
• 10:33
  Because
• 10:33
  if
• 10:33
  it's
• 10:34
  38
• 10:34
  degrees,.
• 10:38
  It's
• 10:38
  probably.
• 10:38
  About
• 10:39
  15
• 10:39
  minutes
• 10:40
  from
• 10:40
  the
• 10:40
  old
• 10:40
  town
• 10:41
  to
• 10:41
  see
• 10:41
  the
• 10:42
  Imperial.
• 10:43
  Yeah,
• 10:43
  yeah.
• 10:44
  And
• 10:44
  this
• 10:44
  is
• 10:44
  the
• 10:44
  Imperial
• 10:45
  in
• 10:45
  the.
• 10:45
  Center
• 10:45
  of
• 10:45
  the
• 10:45
  city.
• 10:47
  The.
• 10:48
  It's
• 10:48
  quite
• 10:48
  hard
• 10:48
  to
• 10:49
  kind
• 10:49
  of
• 10:49
  work.
• 10:49
  No,
• 10:50
  not
• 10:50
  really.
• 10:50
  I
• 10:51
  mean
• 10:51
  I'm
• 10:51
  not
• 10:51
  quite
• 10:51
  sure
• 10:52
  where
• 10:52
  the,
• 10:52
  where
• 10:52
  you'd
• 10:53
  say
• 10:53
  the
• 10:53
  center
• 10:54
  was.
• 10:56
  It's
• 10:56
  all
• 10:57
  spread
• 10:57
  out
• 10:57
  around
• 10:57
  the
• 10:57
  lake.
• 10:58
  Yeah,
• 10:58
  I
• 10:58
  mean
• 10:59
  they're
• 10:59
  Kind
• 10:59
  of
• 10:59
  on
• 11:00
  one
• 11:00
  end
• 11:00
  of
• 11:00
  the
• 11:00
  lake,
• 11:00
  really.
• 11:02
  And
• 11:02
  it's
• 11:02
  a.
• 11:03
  It's
• 11:03
  a.
• 11:04
  You
• 11:04
  don't.
• 11:04
  I
• 11:04
  don't.
• 11:05
  I
• 11:05
  mean,
• 11:05
  maybe
• 11:06
  you
• 11:06
  do,
• 11:06
  but
• 11:06
  I
• 11:06
  don't
• 11:07
  tend
• 11:07
  to
• 11:07
  really
• 11:07
  venture
• 11:08
  out
• 11:08
  beyond
• 11:09
  the
• 11:09
  Imperial.
• 11:09
  There's
• 11:10
  not
• 11:10
  so
• 11:10
  much
• 11:11
  out
• 11:11
  on
• 11:11
  that
• 11:12
  side,
• 11:12
  so.
• 11:14
  So
• 11:14
  your
• 11:14
  kind
• 11:14
  of
• 11:14
  route
• 11:15
  is
• 11:15
  often
• 11:15
  the
• 11:16
  Imperial
• 11:16
  one
• 11:17
  end
• 11:17
  and
• 11:17
  then
• 11:18
  the
• 11:18
  kind
• 11:19
  of
• 11:19
  the
• 11:19
  edges
• 11:19
  of
• 11:19
  the
• 11:19
  old
• 11:20
  town
• 11:20
  on
• 11:20
  the
• 11:20
  other.
• 11:20
  There'll
• 11:21
  be
• 11:21
  people
• 11:22
  that
• 11:22
  are
• 11:23
  more
• 11:23
  Annecy
• 11:24
  experienced
• 11:25
  that
• 11:25
  will
• 11:25
  tell
• 11:25
  me
• 11:25
  that
• 11:26
  that's
• 11:26
  all
• 11:26
  wrong
• 11:26
  and
• 11:27
  that
• 11:27
  there's
• 11:27
  somewhere
• 11:28
  that
• 11:28
  I
• 11:28
  should
• 11:28
  be
• 11:28
  going
• 11:29
  past
• 11:29
  the
• 11:29
  old
• 11:29
  town
• 11:29
  or
• 11:30
  past
• 11:30
  the
• 11:30
  Imperial.
• 11:31
  But
• 11:31
  that
• 11:32
  tends
• 11:32
  to
• 11:32
  be
• 11:32
  kind
• 11:33
  of
• 11:33
  the
• 11:33
  map
• 11:33
  that
• 11:33
  I
• 11:33
  think
• 11:34
  a
• 11:34
  lot
• 11:34
  of
• 11:34
  people
• 11:35
  use.
• 11:36
  And
• 11:37
  presumably
• 11:38
  people
• 11:38
  are
• 11:38
  looking
• 11:38
  for
• 11:39
  funding.
• 11:41
  Yes.
• 11:41
  So,
• 11:42
  for
• 11:42
  instance,
• 11:42
  we're
• 11:42
  at
• 11:43
  Viqueens,
• 11:44
  which
• 11:44
  is
• 11:44
  a
• 11:45
  animated
• 11:45
  feature
• 11:46
  film
• 11:46
  that
• 11:46
  I'm
• 11:46
  involved
• 11:47
  in.
• 11:47
  We're
• 11:48
  presenting
• 11:49
  on
• 11:49
  Thursday.
• 11:50
  Yeah.
• 11:50
  And
• 11:51
  to.
• 11:51
  And
• 11:51
  to
• 11:51
  market
• 11:52
  the
• 11:52
  movie.
• 11:53
  So
• 11:53
  the
• 11:53
  people
• 11:53
  definitely
• 11:54
  use
• 11:54
  it
• 11:54
  as
• 11:55
  a
• 11:55
  platform
• 11:55
  to
• 11:55
  do
• 11:56
  that.
• 11:56
  And
• 11:57
  because
• 11:57
  it
• 11:57
  doesn't
• 11:58
  have.
• 11:59
  In
• 11:59
  a
• 11:59
  way,
• 12:00
  because
• 12:00
  it
• 12:00
  isn't
• 12:01
  quite
• 12:01
  so
• 12:01
  commercial
• 12:03
  in
• 12:03
  its
• 12:04
  reputation
• 12:04
  as
• 12:05
  something
• 12:05
  like
• 12:05
  Mitt,
• 12:09
  in
• 12:09
  some
• 12:09
  ways
• 12:09
  it
• 12:10
  helps
• 12:10
  because
• 12:10
  it's
• 12:10
  kind
• 12:10
  of.
• 12:11
  It
• 12:11
  helps
• 12:11
  because
• 12:11
  it's
• 12:12
  more
• 12:12
  of
• 12:12
  a
• 12:12
  soft
• 12:12
  sell.
• 12:13
  You
• 12:13
  don't
• 12:13
  feel
• 12:13
  like
• 12:13
  it's.
• 12:14
  You're
• 12:14
  really
• 12:15
  selling
• 12:15
  the
• 12:15
  movie,
• 12:16
  although
• 12:16
  you
• 12:17
  are.
• 12:17
  You're
• 12:17
  celebrating
• 12:18
  the
• 12:18
  movie.
• 12:19
  Exactly.
• 12:20
  Yes.
• 12:20
  Yeah.
• 12:21
  Rather
• 12:21
  than
• 12:21
  gurning
• 12:22
  for
• 12:22
  the
• 12:22
  sale
• 12:23
  with
• 12:23
  the.
• 12:23
  With
• 12:24
  the
• 12:24
  emphasis
• 12:24
  on
• 12:24
  the
• 12:25
  sell
• 12:25
  of
• 12:25
  celebrating.
• 12:28
  Exactly.
• 12:28
  For
• 12:28
  nothing.
• 12:29
  Redfern.
• 12:32
  So,
• 12:32
  yeah,
• 12:32
  it's.
• 12:33
  The
• 12:33
  cell
• 12:33
  part
• 12:34
  of
• 12:34
  it
• 12:34
  is
• 12:34
  definitely.
• 12:35
  An
• 12:35
  important
• 12:35
  component
• 12:38
  because
• 12:38
  there's
• 12:38
  also
• 12:38
  presentations
• 12:39
  at
• 12:39
  it
• 12:39
  too.
• 12:40
  Right.
• 12:40
  So,
• 12:40
  like
• 12:40
  there's
• 12:41
  a
• 12:41
  Netflix
• 12:41
  presentation,
• 12:42
  Disney
• 12:42
  presentation.
• 12:43
  Like
• 12:43
  some
• 12:43
  of
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  studios
• 12:44
  show
• 12:44
  their
• 12:44
  whole
• 12:44
  sites.
• 12:45
  Absolutely.
• 12:46
  As
• 12:46
  like,
• 12:46
  kind
• 12:46
  of
• 12:46
  like
• 12:47
  an
• 12:47
  overview.
• 12:48
  Yeah,
• 12:48
  yeah.
• 12:49
  And
• 12:49
  Netflix
• 12:50
  recently
• 12:50
  have
• 12:50
  used
• 12:51
  it
• 12:51
  far
• 12:52
  more
• 12:52
  to
• 12:52
  kind
• 12:52
  of
• 12:53
  to
• 12:53
  make
• 12:54
  announcements
• 12:54
  about
• 12:55
  animated
• 12:56
  movies,
• 12:57
  and
• 12:57
  they've
• 12:57
  used
• 12:58
  it
• 12:58
  as
• 12:58
  a.
• 12:59
  As
• 12:59
  a
• 12:59
  space
• 12:59
  to
• 12:59
  kind
• 13:00
  of
• 13:00
  have
• 13:00
  sort
• 13:01
  of
• 13:01
  exclusives
• 13:02
  and
• 13:03
  breaking
• 13:03
  news,
• 13:04
  really.
• 13:05
  And
• 13:06
  I
• 13:06
  think
• 13:06
  that's
• 13:06
  something
• 13:07
  that's
• 13:07
  developed.
• 13:08
  Developed
• 13:09
  more
• 13:09
  over
• 13:09
  the
• 13:09
  years.
• 13:10
  I
• 13:10
  think
• 13:11
  it's
• 13:11
  become
• 13:11
  more
• 13:11
  of
• 13:12
  a
• 13:12
  place
• 13:12
  for
• 13:12
  that
• 13:12
  than
• 13:12
  it.
• 13:13
  Than
• 13:13
  it
• 13:13
  had
• 13:14
  been.
• 13:16
  Yeah,
• 13:16
  Yeah,
• 13:17
  I
• 13:17
  think
• 13:17
  that's
• 13:17
  it.
• 13:18
  I
• 13:18
  think
• 13:18
  that's
• 13:18
  later
• 13:18
  in
• 13:18
  the
• 13:18
  week.
• 13:19
  I'm
• 13:19
  waiting.
• 13:19
  I
• 13:19
  have
• 13:20
  my
• 13:20
  bugs
• 13:20
  on
• 13:20
  the
• 13:20
  inside
• 13:21
  for
• 13:21
  that
• 13:21
  one.
• 13:22
  But
• 13:23
  yeah,
• 13:23
  those.
• 13:24
  It's.
• 13:25
  It's
• 13:25
  a
• 13:25
  very.
• 13:26
  It's
• 13:26
  a
• 13:26
  special
• 13:27
  spot.
• 13:27
  And.
• 13:28
  And
• 13:28
  I
• 13:28
  mean,
• 13:29
  I
• 13:29
  think
• 13:29
  I'm
• 13:29
  right
• 13:30
  in
• 13:30
  saying
• 13:31
  that
• 13:31
  it's
• 13:31
  the
• 13:31
  oldest
• 13:31
  animation
• 13:32
  festival
• 13:33
  definitely
• 13:33
  in
• 13:34
  Europe.
• 13:34
  It
• 13:34
  might
• 13:34
  be
• 13:34
  in
• 13:34
  the
• 13:35
  world.
• 13:36
  So.
• 13:37
  So
• 13:37
  it's
• 13:37
  definitely
• 13:37
  got
• 13:38
  that
• 13:38
  history
• 13:38
  there
• 13:38
  as
• 13:38
  well.
• 13:41
  Great.
• 13:41
  I
• 13:41
  have
• 13:41
  one
• 13:41
  more.
• 13:42
  I
• 13:42
  have
• 13:42
  one
• 13:42
  more
• 13:42
  operational
• 13:43
  question.
• 13:43
  Sorry,
• 13:43
  I'm
• 13:43
  just
• 13:44
  getting
• 13:44
  on
• 13:44
  to
• 13:44
  Plummer.
• 13:45
  Is
• 13:45
  the
• 13:45
  accommodation
• 13:46
  as
• 13:46
  bad
• 13:46
  as
• 13:46
  everyone
• 13:46
  says
• 13:46
  it
• 13:47
  is?
• 13:47
  Because,
• 13:47
  like,
• 13:47
  people
• 13:47
  have
• 13:48
  said
• 13:48
  population
• 13:49
  as
• 13:49
  bad
• 13:50
  as
• 13:50
  bad.
• 13:50
  Is
• 13:50
  it?
• 13:51
  Yeah,
• 13:51
  hard
• 13:51
  to
• 13:51
  guess.
• 13:52
  It
• 13:52
  can
• 13:53
  be.
• 13:53
  I
• 13:53
  mean,
• 13:53
  I'm.
• 13:55
  I'm
• 13:55
  on
• 13:55
  the.
• 13:55
  I'm
• 13:56
  in
• 13:56
  the
• 13:56
  west
• 13:57
  fantasy.
• 13:57
  I
• 13:58
  think
• 13:58
  that's
• 13:58
  right
• 13:59
  on
• 14:00
  quite
• 14:00
  on
• 14:00
  the
• 14:00
  outskirts.
• 14:01
  So
• 14:01
  my,
• 14:02
  My
• 14:02
  walk
• 14:02
  in
• 14:03
  is
• 14:03
  about
• 14:03
  45
• 14:04
  minutes.
• 14:06
  Yes.
• 14:07
  And
• 14:07
  so
• 14:07
  you.
• 14:07
  45
• 14:08
  minutes,
• 14:08
  38
• 14:08
  degrees
• 14:09
  is
• 14:09
  no
• 14:09
  crime.
• 14:10
  If
• 14:10
  it
• 14:10
  was
• 14:10
  22,
• 14:11
  it'd
• 14:12
  be
• 14:12
  beautiful.
• 14:12
  You'd
• 14:12
  be
• 14:13
  like,
• 14:13
  yeah,
• 14:13
  of
• 14:13
  course.
• 14:13
  And
• 14:14
  you're
• 14:14
  booking
• 14:14
  it.
• 14:14
  You're
• 14:14
  like,
• 14:14
  course,
• 14:15
  I'll
• 14:15
  take
• 14:15
  that
• 14:15
  walk.
• 14:15
  That's
• 14:16
  a
• 14:16
  nice
• 14:16
  time
• 14:16
  to
• 14:16
  set
• 14:16
  the
• 14:17
  head
• 14:17
  in
• 14:17
  the
• 14:17
  morning.
• 14:18
  Yeah.
• 14:18
  And
• 14:18
  so.
• 14:19
  And
• 14:19
  hopefully
• 14:20
  that.
• 14:21
  So.
• 14:21
  So,
• 14:22
  yeah,
• 14:22
  you.
• 14:22
  It's
• 14:23
  about
• 14:23
  a
• 14:23
  45
• 14:23
  minute
• 14:24
  walk
• 14:24
  in
• 14:24
  from.
• 14:25
  And
• 14:26
  I
• 14:26
  think
• 14:26
  that's
• 14:26
  not
• 14:27
  unusual
• 14:28
  is
• 14:29
  people
• 14:29
  often
• 14:29
  have
• 14:29
  to
• 14:30
  kind
• 14:30
  of
• 14:30
  find
• 14:30
  spaces
• 14:31
  that
• 14:32
  are
• 14:32
  more
• 14:32
  in
• 14:32
  there
• 14:32
  on
• 14:33
  the
• 14:33
  outskirts.
• 14:35
  And
• 14:35
  so
• 14:35
  you
• 14:36
  have
• 14:36
  to
• 14:36
  kind
• 14:36
  of
• 14:36
  bring
• 14:36
  all
• 14:37
  of
• 14:37
  your
• 14:37
  bags
• 14:37
  that
• 14:37
  you're
• 14:38
  going
• 14:38
  to
• 14:38
  be
• 14:38
  using
• 14:39
  for
• 14:40
  the
• 14:40
  day
• 14:41
  because
• 14:41
  you're
• 14:42
  not
• 14:42
  going
• 14:42
  back,
• 14:43
  not
• 14:44
  nipping
• 14:44
  back
• 14:44
  in
• 14:44
  the
• 14:45
  middle
• 14:45
  of
• 14:45
  the
• 14:45
  day.
• 14:47
  Got
• 14:47
  it,
• 14:48
  Got
• 14:48
  it.
• 14:48
  Well,
• 14:50
  we'll
• 14:50
  set
• 14:50
  ourselves
• 14:51
  an
• 14:52
  objective
• 14:52
  for
• 14:53
  being
• 14:53
  there,
• 14:53
  all
• 14:53
  three
• 14:54
  people
• 14:54
  in
• 14:54
  person
• 14:55
  next
• 14:55
  year
• 14:55
  to
• 14:56
  record
• 14:56
  the
• 14:56
  Kids
• 14:56
  Media
• 14:56
  Club
• 14:57
  podcast
• 14:57
  live.
• 14:57
  Maybe
• 14:58
  we
• 14:58
  should
• 14:58
  pitch
• 14:59
  this
• 14:59
  animation
• 14:59
  that
• 15:00
  we've
• 15:00
  threatened
• 15:01
  to
• 15:01
  one
• 15:01
  day
• 15:01
  pull
• 15:02
  together.
• 15:03
  Yeah,
• 15:03
  let's
• 15:03
  do
• 15:04
  it.
• 15:04
  Deal?
• 15:04
  Deal.
• 15:04
  Let's
• 15:05
  get
• 15:05
  the
• 15:05
  deck
• 15:05
  done,
• 15:05
  guys.
• 15:06
  Sounds
• 15:07
  good.
• 15:07
  Right,
• 15:07
  Andy,
• 15:08
  so
• 15:09
  your
• 15:09
  task
• 15:09
  today
• 15:10
  is
• 15:10
  to
• 15:10
  get
• 15:10
  us
• 15:10
  a
• 15:10
  glorious
• 15:12
  podcast
• 15:12
  cover
• 15:13
  image
• 15:13
  and
• 15:14
  send
• 15:14
  it
• 15:14
  around
• 15:14
  the
• 15:14
  WhatsApp
• 15:15
  group
• 15:15
  so
• 15:16
  that
• 15:16
  we
• 15:16
  can
• 15:16
  make
• 15:16
  everyone
• 15:16
  jealous.
• 15:17
  All
• 15:17
  right,
• 15:18
  Sounds
• 15:18
  good.
• 15:20
  Great.
• 15:20
  Shall
• 15:21
  we.
• 15:21
  Shall
• 15:21
  we
• 15:21
  do
• 15:21
  that?
• 15:22
  Rose
• 15:22
  is
• 15:22
  not
• 15:22
  going
• 15:22
  to
• 15:22
  drink
• 15:22
  itself,
• 15:23
  Andy.
• 15:23
  Yeah.
• 15:24
  Yes.
• 15:25
  Well,
• 15:25
  actually,
• 15:26
  did
• 15:26
  somebody
• 15:27
  else
• 15:27
  want
• 15:27
  to
• 15:27
  take
• 15:27
  the
• 15:27
  baton
• 15:28
  of
• 15:28
  doing
• 15:28
  the
• 15:28
  sign
• 15:29
  off?
• 15:31
  Oh,
• 15:31
  gosh,
• 15:31
  the
• 15:31
  pressure,
• 15:32
  the
• 15:32
  pressure.
• 15:33
  Go
• 15:33
  on,
• 15:33
  Emily.
• 15:34
  Thanks
• 15:35
  for
• 15:35
  listening,
• 15:35
  everybody.
• 15:36
  Andy's
• 15:36
  obviously
• 15:37
  already
• 15:37
  drunk.
• 15:37
  He
• 15:37
  doesn't
• 15:38
  want
• 15:38
  to
• 15:38
  take
• 15:38
  responsibility.
• 15:41
  Catch
• 15:41
  us
• 15:41
  on
• 15:41
  all
• 15:42
  major
• 15:42
  podcasting
• 15:42
  platforms
• 15:43
  and
• 15:43
  on
• 15:43
  TikTok
• 15:44
  and
• 15:44
  YouTube
• 15:45
  and
• 15:45
  we'll
• 15:45
  talk
• 15:45
  to
• 15:45
  you
• 15:45
  next
• 15:46
  time.