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- 0:09Welcome. It is Tuesday night, and you know what that means. It
- 0:14is time for Ignition, the AEW Fan Hub podcast. I am your co
- 0:19host, Alex. This is Kelson. Hey, Alex, have a lot
- 0:25to talk about tonight, I think, so let's just jump right into it.
- 0:28What do you want to talk about? Absolutely? Yeah, I think
- 0:31the number one thing that I want to talk about is the cage match.
- 0:36It made a lot of waves. There was a lot of people talking about
- 0:40it. We got responses from all of the House of Black members on Twitter.
- 0:45Yeah, so that's what I think we should start things off with.
- 0:48Sounds good, Okay, So yeah, let's start from the beginning AW collision.
- 0:55A week ago we had that Daniel Garcia versus Buddy Matthews. After that
- 1:00match, they announced that there was going to be an elimination cage match the
- 1:06week after. So two days ago they announced the elimination cage match. Then
- 1:15on Dynamite they showed a new graphic that said it was a Escape the Cage
- 1:22elimination cage match. So we know that AW has only had traditional cage matches,
- 1:30and when I say traditional cage matches, I mean inner submission. The
- 1:34cage exists to force the guys in the match to fight each other. Correct,
- 1:42that's my understanding. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So WWEE we know
- 1:48they've always done escaped the cage matches or whatever you want to call them,
- 1:52But the goal of a cage match in WWE is to climb the side of
- 1:57the cage. They opened the door for you so you can get out of
- 2:00the cage. So I've always been a big fan of ae W dial cage
- 2:05matches, and this is the same style. That's like going back to the
- 2:08territory days. This is what a cage match has always been before WWE reinvented
- 2:15them and made them stupid. In my opinion, I'm not a fan of
- 2:20fair enough escape the cage matches. Do you have any thoughts on escaping the
- 2:24cage versus pin and submission? Well, you know, look, when you
- 2:31have a steel cage, to me, the whole purpose of the steel cage
- 2:37is is to keep the people in the match in the match, not running
- 2:40around the arena. Of course, you know, the cage is often used
- 2:46as a weapon and that's always fun to watch too. But yeah, I
- 2:51mean, I don't really have a problem with escaping the cage or pinfall submission
- 2:53in the cage. I don't really have a preference. Well they're fine,
- 2:58I think, okay, And with a multiman cage match like this was,
- 3:02it was a three on three cage match, and then to have it be
- 3:07escape the cage rules, now you're saying that, Okay, the guys need
- 3:13to escape the cage to win. So whatever team escapes the cage first wins.
- 3:19But now you're in a situation where if two guys on one team escape
- 3:22the cage, now it's three guys versus one inside of the cage. So
- 3:28until you win the match, it's like escaping the cage is the last thing
- 3:31you want to do. And one of the things that I said, Alex
- 3:37was when what the person escapes the cage in this case, instead of putting
- 3:43your team at a disadvantage, they should just say okay. For example,
- 3:50daxx Hardwood escape the cage. Now he's allowed to go back into the cage,
- 3:57but he can't escape again. He he's already escaped, but he's there.
- 4:00He can actually assist his team because exactly what you were saying, getting
- 4:06two people escaping the cage on one team now puts that team, even though
- 4:12they're you know, winning, I guess is the best way to put it.
- 4:15They escape. They had two teammates achieved the goal. Now the other
- 4:23teammate is an a complete disadvantage, is going to get mrked. Yeah,
- 4:28and they even played into it in the match they had I think it was
- 4:31like Cash and Buddy or escaping the cage and then Cash was out, his
- 4:36feet hit the ground, and then Buddy Matthews is like, oh, I'm
- 4:41going to go back in and give my team the advantage. It's like it's
- 4:45so convoluted and silly, and yeah, the way you explained it, at
- 4:50least that makes it make a little bit more sense your team a lot more
- 4:55sense. I mean, I would say, just don't have this escape the
- 5:00cage match rules in the first place. That's just going to be better.
- 5:03But at least the way you're proposing is like an improvement. Yeah. You
- 5:10know. The big thing for me, though, Alex, is this,
- 5:14when they initially announced this match, it was you know, was it a
- 5:20still cage eliminator match? Yeah? Right, right then they changed it,
- 5:25but at no point that they and this is something that's kind of ongoing with
- 5:30with a W and that and I could point to the Continental Classic. When
- 5:36it initially started, people were not only confused by the rules, but they
- 5:43were also confused by what. Okay, when they somebody wins, what are
- 5:48they? Are they Continental Champion champion or the do Japan Strong open Weight Champion
- 5:56or all three? And you don't be Frankly, I think there still people
- 6:00that are more casual fans that still don't get it. You know, AW
- 6:04has to get better at explaining what the world is going on. They've got
- 6:11t TV, they've got three TV shows, five hours of TV, They've
- 6:15got a strong presence on Twitter. You know, there's no reason why anybody
- 6:23could should be confused over a match. That's just my opinion. Mm hmmm.
- 6:29Yeah, and so yeah, back to this match. It was it
- 6:33seemingly it seemed like they announced one thing and then changed it. And I'm
- 6:40watching the match and I'm wondering, why did they change it? Right,
- 6:45Like, I'm I'm thinking a couple of different thoughts. My first thought was,
- 6:48like, you have six guys in this match, and they're in a
- 6:53they're in the cage, and it's they're all like trapped in the ring in
- 6:58the ropes because there's no room because it's a cage. My first thought was,
- 7:01maybe they can't fit a ref in addition to these six guys, so
- 7:06that's why it had escape the cage. But they have like three or four
- 7:10ref refs outside the cage the match, Yeah, because they needed to be
- 7:15there, I guess to to you know, see who escaped the cage anyway,
- 7:19So that was my first thought, and then my second thought was,
- 7:23yeah, maybe something along the lines of does the House of Black or everyone,
- 7:29Like I thought, maybe everyone in the match they don't want to eat
- 7:32a bunch of pins, like they don't want to get pinned, because if
- 7:35it's an elimination match, then five guys are going to get pinned or submitted.
- 7:40So that did cross my mind. Yeah, but then that leads to
- 7:45I think David melt Dave Meltzer, David Meltzer, I just called him,
- 7:48but he reported that basically be and he's a he's a so called journalist,
- 7:56and the things that he says you kind of assume that he as sources or
- 8:01he's talked to people at AEW, but he basically says that, you know,
- 8:05House of Black doesn't want to do the job, and they don't want
- 8:09to do the job because they want to leave and go to WWE. So
- 8:11he's saying, Buddy Matthews wants to go and be with his wife, and
- 8:15Malachi Black wants to go and be with his wife in WWE, And he
- 8:18says all these things, and he makes it sound I feel like he's hearing
- 8:26it from sources, right, But he's just going through the same thought process
- 8:30that I'm having when I'm watching the match. Yeah, well, you know,
- 8:35one of the things that came up was that the House of Black didn't
- 8:39want to eat a pin MH and members of the House of Black came out
- 8:46and we were like, are you absolutely insane? Basically they called him out
- 8:50on it. Yeah. Since look, since All In, which was on
- 8:56August twenty seventh of twenty twenty three. Since all Buddy Matthews is one and
- 9:01two in singles matches and four and four in all types of matches, Brody
- 9:07King is two and three in singles matches and four and six in other types
- 9:13of matches. Malachi Black has not had any singles matches and has FOIGN three
- 9:20overall since since then, So you're looking at basically all with not Basically,
- 9:26it's absolutely the House of Black as a team has a losing record since all
- 9:31in. Yeah, of course Julia Hart's in the House of Black and she
- 9:37was part of this match. But you know, look, if you ask
- 9:45Julia Hart's eleven and three overall since all in and ten and one in singles.
- 9:48By the way, look, I think people are reading misreading this completely.
- 10:01Malachi Black is a very creative driven wrestler. He's creative, Okay,
- 10:09the way I look at it and what I want to believe Now, I
- 10:11have no sources, so I'm just saying this off the cuff. Malchi Black
- 10:16looked at this match and said, what is the main purpose of this match
- 10:22is to probably it's probably to get Daniel Garcia over. How can we get
- 10:28Daniel Garcia over? Three ways? One, we have him somebody beat the
- 10:33hell out of him before the match, that he's laying in a pool of
- 10:35his own blood, you know, an hour before the match, and he's
- 10:39if he about coming out. Two, we have Julia Hart spit the black
- 10:50mist into his face, putting him in even more of a disadvantage. He's
- 10:56already injured, he's bleeding, he's got his head wrapped, and now he's
- 11:01got black crap all over his face and in his eyes, right, and
- 11:05three you have him still persevere and who does he beat Basically didn't pin him,
- 11:15but nobody got pinned in the match, but he beat him outside of
- 11:20the ring. He escaped the ring first, he beat ultimately Malachi Black.
- 11:26So how in the hell are you gonna say that Malachi Black and Brody King
- 11:33and Buddy Matthews are refusing to job to anybody when the job just fine to
- 11:41everybody. They did it in such a way that it furthered the story more
- 11:46you look at it. Now, look at Daniel Garcia. Not only is
- 11:50the hero because it was a huge celebration after the match, right, but
- 11:52also you got to think, okay, well now he's been spit in the
- 11:58eye, in the face the Black Mist. Is this going to affect him
- 12:03in any way? Yeah? And yeah, and okay. To agree with
- 12:07your point, I think House of Black loses too much. If anything,
- 12:13they're they're the best stable or one of the best stables in ae W.
- 12:20They're like a main event stable on Collision there. They need to be booked
- 12:24strong. And Malachi Black's the leader, like you don't want him taking pins,
- 12:31Like if anyone's choosing for Malachi Black not to lose, it would make
- 12:35sense for it to be Tony Kahan if anyone. And yeah, and to
- 12:39your other point, I I can't wait to see what they do with Daniel
- 12:43Garcia, because yeah, you're gonna hint at joining House of Black? Are
- 12:48we gonna get like the dark evil dancing Daniel Garcia, the evil dancing Daniel
- 12:54Garcia because he can't stop dancing. It's it's the same dance. But now
- 12:58he just told Machetes, Yeah it's Britney Spears spot style. Oh my god.
- 13:05Yeah. But look all the crap that Malachi Black, Buddy Matthews and
- 13:13Brody King got before, even before this match and after this match is preposterous.
- 13:20It's it was uncalled for. Look at what they did in this match.
- 13:26They got the crap beat out of them, and they put on a
- 13:28good match. Why are people taking away from this match? This match should
- 13:35have been about ultimately, it should have been about Daniel Garcia, persevering,
- 13:39we shouldn't be talking about the House of Black at all. No, And
- 13:45this match, despite all the things I said about the rules and how goofy
- 13:50they were, it was a great match for what it was. And I
- 13:54love the ending. Yeah, and they put on a great cage match despite
- 14:00the fact that, yeah, the rules made no sense. Yeah. And
- 14:03so another thing that came out with all this stuff that was the health of
- 14:09Black is that Buddy Matthews and Malachi Black maybe leaving a w wend their contracts
- 14:16over. Yeah. Well you know, well look, so let's talk about
- 14:20that. Sure, Buddy Matthews's wife, our girlfriend of Freance. I think
- 14:26they are engaged now. Ray Ripley is in ww's Alita Vega is married to
- 14:33Malachi Black. She's in WWE. It makes perfect sense for Malachi Black and
- 14:39Buddy Matthews to go to WWE. However, one thing I've learned from being
- 14:48a fan of Malachi Black is that from time to time he gets on a
- 14:54live video like a live Instagram video, and he starts talking with by saying,
- 15:01I can't believe I have to do this all over again. I for
- 15:07example, when he was absent for a late period of time, he said,
- 15:13I am in I am taking some time off. I am still in
- 15:16AW and I will be back. I guess what. He took some time
- 15:22off he was still in AAW because he came back, you know, and
- 15:26he basically says that I'm paraphrasing him here saying if you don't hear it from
- 15:33me, don't believe it. So, look, is there a possibility to
- 15:37Malachi Black is going to leave AW when his contract is up and go to
- 15:43WWE. Sure, sure, anything is possible, But until Malachi Black says
- 15:50it, it's a non issue. Yeah. And the reports are his contracts
- 15:56up in twenty twenty seven. That gives us three years before any free agency
- 16:03rumors, before he shows up at the twenty twenty eight Royal Rumble or twenty
- 16:08twenty seven whatever. Yeah, and a lot can change in WWE. I
- 16:14mean, the Triple H may not be there, there might be no supporters,
- 16:18his wife may not be even employed there. In three years, A
- 16:22lot, a lot can change. So, well, look what's happened just
- 16:26recently between AW and WWE. There's j Cargill just made her debut in the
- 16:33ring debut at the Royal Rumble, Andradi Lede Loge just showed up at the
- 16:37Royal Rubble. DM Punk just showed up there. You know. So there's
- 16:45free agents that are going there from AW and other places now, you know.
- 16:49So, and all those people are taking top spots in WWE. Yeah,
- 16:56but then you also have to look at aw look who's coming a w
- 17:00recently. Of course, we've got Adam Copland. That was you know at
- 17:04h Russell Dream. We got Deanna Well, we got Mariah May in early
- 17:11November. It doesn't it's hard to believe it. It's been two months,
- 17:15over two months already for that. Uh. We got Dianna Parazzo. Yeah,
- 17:19there's you know, strong speculation that Mercedes Monett is coming. We've got
- 17:25returns out the wazoo coming. I mean, you've got Britt Baker and Jamie
- 17:34Hayter who seemed to be close to coming back. I mean, it just
- 17:38makes sense they've be gone so long, just come back. Thunder Rosa just
- 17:45came back. You have Tamello that may be coming back. You know,
- 17:48she she had her baby. You know, we don't know the time frame
- 17:52for that, but you know, and I'm sure that Tony Kahn is the
- 17:56type of person that's not going to rush her to come back. But seems
- 17:59to me from what Tamla is saying, that she's itching to come back.
- 18:03We just had Serena deeb come back. All right, then you've got like
- 18:10Megan will I'm just staying with the women's division, because that's why Traded thought
- 18:15a women's division. You have Megan Baine who's coming back. Y Kazakazaki just
- 18:22graduated from t J p W. She's she's coming to the United States.
- 18:26Then again, I'm just talking to women's division. There's still speculation. I
- 18:32don't really think that Julia is going to come, but she could, especially
- 18:37with all the stuff that's going on in WWE right now, may make it
- 18:40a little bit less uh attractive to a woman wrestler to go to w W
- 18:45right now. Specifically, you've got Camille as well, who was backstage recently
- 18:56at an aw show. You know she's got a look. Yeah, so
- 19:02there's all that. Then when you you know, you brought up will Osprey.
- 19:04As far as the men go, Okata is a very strong possibility coming
- 19:10to AW. So here's the thing, And this is what I want to
- 19:17ask you, Alex is like, Okay, so I just named off a
- 19:18bunch of women, because let's face it, the women's free agency is a
- 19:23little bit stronger and fluid right now. The men's free agency another man,
- 19:29by the way that I can mention, that seems to be heading toward free
- 19:32agency. Soon if the accounts are correct. Is Drew McIntyre. Yeah,
- 19:37possibly Sammy Zaine. So but here's the thing is that right now it seems
- 19:45like the free agency free agent market for the women is a little bit more
- 19:49strong than the men's market. Uh. But the thing is, oh,
- 19:55in another person, Jack Perry. I wanted to bring on Jack. We
- 19:57don't know what's going on with Jack Perry? You know, is he still
- 20:00aw? Is this you know? What's going on there? So I think
- 20:06we'll get that answer pretty soon. But anyway, my point is is that
- 20:11the women's free agency seems to be a little bit stronger than the men's free
- 20:14agency right now as far as that goes. But let's just say that AW
- 20:22brings in some of these people like Juliet, Mercedes Bonet and and uh Camille
- 20:30uh and then of course we got will Osbrey Whatt's let's say they bring in
- 20:34Sammis Ain and Drew McIntyre and Okata. Okay, do we have to make
- 20:42room for some you know, it seems to be like you gotta voted roster
- 20:48man. We got to get you know, we've got to make room for
- 20:52these people. Yeah, well, we are going to be losing thing.
- 20:56We're going to be losing Brian Danielson sometime in the next I probably like all
- 21:03In would be his last match for Danielson. He still says that Daniel said
- 21:08just say in an interview that he still wants to wrestle like maybe ten times
- 21:14a year. That's that's a lot. That's it is a lot. You
- 21:18know, that's like every AEW pay per view basically exactly, Yeah, why
- 21:22not, but he's not. He said something. I believe he said something
- 21:26like five ten times a year, So but go ahead, I'm sorry,
- 21:29I didn't mean yeah, no worries. Yeah, I hope he sticks around
- 21:33and and is maybe in that you know, less frequent time frame. But
- 21:41yeah, the other person like will Ospray, I know we mentioned him,
- 21:44but he comes in and he's he to me is the best wrestler in the
- 21:48world and he can cut a good promo. Like bringing him in is going
- 21:52to be a real game changer. It'll be interesting to see how they handle
- 21:56that. Obviously if they bring in as well, there's so many dream matches
- 22:02and like pay per view main events you can do with that's like just those
- 22:06two they slid in immediately to like the top of the card. Yeah.
- 22:12Well, you know the thing is is that, look, if you look
- 22:15at the aw roster, you have guys like Daniel Cinapore and next thing who
- 22:19you mentioned, You got people like Dustin Rhodes and you know, guys like
- 22:26that, Chris Jericho even that are getting up there in age. Yeah,
- 22:33and you know, not saying that they can't perform, because they certainly can.
- 22:37However, being a guy of that age myself, I can tell you
- 22:42that I can't do what I used to do be able to do, and
- 22:47even if I can do it, it hurts a heck of a lot more
- 22:49when now you know what I mean. It's just it's just, I mean,
- 22:53you're more susceptible to injury. Let's face the facts. It's part of
- 22:57the human condition. And I have all the respect of the world for these
- 23:02guys for being able to go out there without killing themselves every week. Yeah,
- 23:07and I think once you're up there in age, and I think Dustin's
- 23:11there and Jericho is definitely quickly approaching there, you don't really want to see
- 23:15those guys beating younger talent. You know, you're not fantasizing about them winning
- 23:22world titles. I think it would be cool for Dustin because he's never really
- 23:27climb that mountain to maybe see him get one run with the title at some
- 23:32point. But like Jericho, I think fan interest is waning, and you
- 23:37do want to see him. I'd love to see him on TV and in
- 23:41some kind of program, but you don't want to see him beating Kyle Fletcher
- 23:47on Dynamite next week or winning titles. You know, he's kind of he's
- 23:52kind of past that point where you can really get behind him in my opinion.
- 23:56Well, the thing that Jericho has done very well, and I have
- 24:00to give him credit for this, is that Jericho's one of those older wrestlers
- 24:06that works hard to put people over, not only by giving them good matches,
- 24:11but actually getting them wins. Look at the matches that Jericho has had
- 24:15against younger wrestlers like Action Andretti, where the opponents are better to Jericho because
- 24:26he makes them look better. He makes them look good. Kenny Omega does
- 24:30the same thing, does the same thing, and you know, as much
- 24:33as I don't really want to talk about him, Ciampunk actually did very well
- 24:38in that regard to putting over to younger wrestlers. But the thing with aw
- 24:44is like I said, with the free agency and whatnot, is that yes,
- 24:48we are gouda. AW is gonna lose some wrestlers, both on the
- 24:52men's division and the women's division because they're good. Okay. For example,
- 24:56everybody's been talking about Ricky Stark's poss moving to WWE. That's well and fine,
- 25:04you know, but I guess what I'm saying here is AW is being
- 25:11smart for example, what they did, what they're doing with Daniel Garcia,
- 25:17because let's face it, we need is AW fan somebody to root for and
- 25:25or somebody to root against, and not just the same people. We can't
- 25:29rest on our laurels. Look at it this way. Kenny Omega is out
- 25:33indefinitely. MJF. We don't know when he's coming back. Adam Cole,
- 25:38we don't know when he's coming back. You know, these are guys that
- 25:42are integral to aw's success and they're not able to wrestle right now. So
- 25:49these young kids and the guys that have been toiling in the indies and never
- 25:55got a chance, this is their opportunity and they've got to take it.
- 25:59But it's not up to them. It's also up to Tony kNN to book
- 26:02them to take that opportunity and giving them a chance, affording them that opportunity.
- 26:12Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I I think, yeah, you've
- 26:17mentioned Daniel Garcia, and he's he's just hit you know, another level because
- 26:22he's now like the full package, right, Like he's on the cusp of
- 26:27being I could see him being a main event guy or at least being there
- 26:33in like a TNT title picture winner champion. So I think they've done a
- 26:40good job with some of these homegrown talent. And I think Chris Jericho,
- 26:45especially for Daniel Garcia, like he he owes, he could get a lot
- 26:49of credit for that because he gave him that sports entertainer aspect and I thought
- 26:55that was a good fit, even though people probably didn't like it at the
- 26:57time and probably preferred seeing him with the Blackpool Combat Club, but I think
- 27:03it just kind of rounded him out and made him what he is today.
- 27:11Yeah, And another thing to mention, I think, you know, there
- 27:14is a lot of free agents and there's going to be people going back and
- 27:18forth between aw and WWE, and that's good. That's good for wrestling because
- 27:22you want to see fresh faces in both companies for both fans, and I
- 27:27think we're seeing Tony early on he was picking up every free agent, like
- 27:33he brought in Miro and Andraday and so on and so on, and anyone
- 27:37that left WWE, he was ready to pick him up. But we've seen
- 27:41him not pick up Dolf Zigler now Nick Nemeth, and we've seen him not
- 27:45pick up Mustafa Ali. So both those guys are in New Japan and TNA
- 27:52both, so we've seen him not pick those guys up, and he's going
- 27:56instead for will Osprey and possibly Okata Mercedes Monet. So it's almost like he's
- 28:02focusing more on main event talent, like maybe putting his money, bundling it
- 28:08together and giving it two bigger names, and maybe that's more of his focus.
- 28:14And I think that makes a lot of sense to me. Oh,
- 28:17you know what also makes sense to me is you know you're getting wrestlers in
- 28:19And again I don't mean this disrespectful. I'm just using this as an example.
- 28:23You know, you're trying to build a company that's gonna have momentum through
- 28:29the next decade. It doesn't make sense to get guys in their fifties,
- 28:33m you know, because by the time you build that momentum, they're too
- 28:37old to perform realistically, you know. So hey, you know, it's
- 28:45a it's a very weird situation. But the one thing I will say,
- 28:48you know, and I think that you will probably agree with me, is
- 28:52that when it comes to free agency and signing free agents and booking, I've
- 28:57never done it before. I don't have the money, I don't have a
- 29:00company to do that. So hey, it's easy for me to sit back
- 29:04in my little reclining chair here and spew at the mouth, But that doesn't
- 29:10mean I know what the hell I'm talking about. Yeah, it is wild.
- 29:15A lot of people seem to think they'd be so great at it,
- 29:18and it's a job that you're not going to be able to get a lot
- 29:22of on the job training, considering like, you know, five people have
- 29:26done it successfully in like the history of the last thirty years or something.
- 29:33True. True. Yeah, well, anyway, let's move on. Is
- 29:38there anything else you want to mention about? Collision, Alex. I think
- 29:44the only other thing that jumps to my mind is Serenade. We saw her
- 29:48return put on a pretty short match, but I thought it was pretty fun
- 29:52and just seeing her, you know, she's like that technical wrestler who is
- 29:59technical in a mean way. She doesn't like take a break and pose after
- 30:04doing a bunch of technical things. She's just trying to hurt people. And
- 30:10then I thought she cut like her best promo ever at the end of that
- 30:14match. I remember back maybe a year or maybe multiple years ago, where
- 30:19she cut some promo and she was like, said something about your your favorite
- 30:26sports team or the sports team here. She didn't even mention the sports team's
- 30:29name, and it was just one of the worst promos I had heard on
- 30:33TV. And I thought she gave a really good promo this week. And
- 30:37I was happy to hear that she was speaking sincerely, which makes a difference,
- 30:41I think. And yeah, that match short was short, but you
- 30:49know, we talk a lot about rig Rust and Rustler's coming back needed to
- 30:53be protected having rig Ross and they should be in a tag team match.
- 31:00Sube deeb looked like she was ready to go after Tony Storm right then,
- 31:06write then, you know, simply put she's ready, you know. And
- 31:11second thing I want to bring up on this match, you know, and
- 31:14I and I actually posted this on Twitter x is I I wanted to give
- 31:18a little bit of credit to Robin Renegade, who was very fluid, very
- 31:25light on her feet and was just there. I mean, she nailed it.
- 31:30Yes it was a short match, but everything she did she did right.
- 31:33You know. I give Robert Rennegade a lot of credit and patting myself
- 31:38on the back a little bit, you know, it kind of made me
- 31:41feel good when I made that Twitter post. Robin Renegade's father actually liked the
- 31:48post, and so Robin Renegade herself, so it was your Twitter post basically,
- 31:52it was on Twitter. I basically said, you know, hey,
- 31:55it was great to see Sarita d D back. She is back, you
- 31:59know, thank goodness. And I also want to give a special shout out
- 32:01to Robin Renegade for really doing really well, you know, and that was
- 32:07cool. Your dad's name Renegade, No Papa Renegade. Papa Renegade is his
- 32:17Twitter bio is like, I'm the father of two women, two female wrestlers,
- 32:22at a rock star at a at a you know whatever. I think
- 32:27his son. I think he said my son is a rock star, so
- 32:30whatever. Maybe maybe he is, maybe he isn't. I don't know.
- 32:35But anyway, that was that he'd liked my post and a couple hours later,
- 32:38Robin Renegade did I just thought it was interesting. You know, it's
- 32:42I like, I like when you say something positive about a wrestler instead of
- 32:50being so damn critical all the time needlessly. Look, it's you know,
- 32:57from the short time that you've been doing these podcasts with us, is you
- 33:02know that what I'm critical, I'm gonna be critical, but damn it,
- 33:06if something's good, I'm gonna say it was good. And that match was
- 33:09good even though it was pre you know, predestined that there was no way
- 33:15that's there to do, was gonna lose that match. I'm Renegade put on
- 33:19a fine match. Yeah. Yeah, she's good and I hope to see
- 33:22more of them, the Renegade sisters in aw proper and I'm sure you know
- 33:28a year from now where a year and a half, we'll start to see
- 33:30them more. Yeah. So gosh, let's move on to let's just talk
- 33:39briefly about well, we don't have to talk briefly. I'm gonna talk briefly
- 33:44about Dynamite because it's not for you. This this card is as I said,
- 33:54I'm not afraid to critique anything. I haven't watched the matches yet on
- 34:01paper, however, this card is awful. There's nothing in this card that
- 34:08and it is confusing because we're Strickland and Adam Page could pick anybody they wanted
- 34:17to to fight. These guys fight the other in this Dealer's choice batch,
- 34:22and I'm like, okay, well, neither of these are gonna strike care
- 34:27in anybody. And then these other matches are I mean, they're fine.
- 34:36That's all I'll say is are fine. There's nothing wrong about them, There's
- 34:40nothing special about them. There's no main event matches in this in this card
- 34:46name either what's your main event? Nobody can I'm looking. I think the
- 34:54main event would be Rob van Dam versus Swear Strickland boiler alert, because you
- 35:02know, Robert Dam has not been announced yet, but I think everybody and
- 35:06their mother knows it's going to be Rob Adnam announced. No, but like
- 35:14just hints being dropped that are just stupid. For example, uh, because
- 35:22I guess they're trying to be cute. What was the one? Let me
- 35:24think I got to look it up now, but there was one hint that
- 35:28was posted by on the aw official Twitter page, you know, and it's
- 35:36and it says it's high time hangman Man. It's it's high time for hangman
- 35:43Adam Page to pick an opponent for tomorrow's aw Dynamite. When the smoke clears,
- 35:50who will and then in all caps, who will walk down the ramp
- 35:55to face where strickly Well, look, yeah, you know, you know,
- 36:01hit hit, nudge, nudge, you know it's it's it's Rob van
- 36:06Dam unless look unless it's a unless it's a you know, part of the
- 36:13pun a swerve that they're trying to get over on people. But this would
- 36:19be a pretty dumb swerve when you have all these opportunities, for all these
- 36:22swerves they could have done and they didn't do, this is the one they're
- 36:24gonna choose to actually pull off. Yeah, it's a strange match. Rob
- 36:32van Dam obviously well passed his prime, but he can still go. He
- 36:37can still do the things he used to do, maybe a little bit slower.
- 36:44And I am I love that Tony paid for Pantera Walk and and he
- 36:50better keep paying for it every time Rob van Dam comes out. But like
- 36:53when you go and watch old w W E footage of Rob van Dam,
- 36:58or because they bought the easy D library, like they cut that music out
- 37:01because ECW didn't pay the rights for it, so to have that come back,
- 37:07I mean, that's just such a treat for me, as like a
- 37:12Rob van Damn ECW fan from back in the day. So I'm happy just
- 37:17because of that weird match. I mean, yeah, you're a hangman out
- 37:22of a page. Yeah, but let me ask you this. The purpose
- 37:27of this match is to basically beat the other guy down right, Yeah,
- 37:31h would Rob van dam be your fifth choice, sixth choice, fifteenth choice
- 37:39for that. I'm not putting Rob van Damn down here, but I'm telling
- 37:44you, man, if it was me, if I was hangman at a
- 37:47page in a real world situation, who would I want to get into into
- 37:52the ring? What's worst? Rickland Wardlow? Yeah, I guess it has
- 38:00to be someone that's good. I mean, I guess Keith Lee's getting surgery,
- 38:07so he's not an option. Yeah, or put somebody in there.
- 38:13No, I would pick someone maybe under the age of forty, somebody that
- 38:19can act like an assassin, somebody that's known for Yeah. Remember when they
- 38:27remember when they brought in I think like Jeff Cobb and maybe he was NJF.
- 38:30But yeah, they brought in Jeff Cobb and he was like the bounty
- 38:34hunter. Yeah, like someone like that. You can go pick someone out
- 38:37of New Japan or like freaking who's that guy that was had some matches dirty?
- 38:45He's like an m M A guy. Yeah, yeah, I can't
- 38:52think, I know, I know you're talking about Yeah, filthy, filthy,
- 38:58filthy Tom Lawler. Yeah, a cool guy to bring to lawn,
- 39:04Yeah, filthy Tom Lawler. Okay, I didn't know if it was filthy.
- 39:07Yeah yeah, filthy, Yeah, like him, like someone that's you
- 39:12know, an MMA guy, a killer, or just someone that's young and
- 39:15known for just somebody. You're not going in there to win a match.
- 39:21Rob van Dam would be going in there to win a match, right,
- 39:23yeah, hayvan Adam Page should not want Rob van Dam to go in there
- 39:28to win a match. Adam Page should be wanting Rob van Dam to go
- 39:31in there to beat the snot out of Swearstrickland, whether he want it or
- 39:37not. And that's what you get somebody like fifthly filthy Tom Lawler or Ward
- 39:40Low or somebody of that elk to do, you know, not Rob van
- 39:45Dam and then you go on the other side sphere Strickland picked his uh one
- 39:51of his Mogul embassy members, which is great even though you know it's kind
- 39:54of weird because I could never say his name because I always get a mistaken
- 39:59with David Company's wife Taolione. So I'm just gonna call him TAOLIONI because I
- 40:04will not get it right if I tried to say the right arm. So
- 40:07Tayoleoni against Adam Paige may mean, Yeah, that's kind of what I'm talking
- 40:15about. Yeah, Yeah, that's a cool match. And I don't think
- 40:17he's had a singles match. He hasn't, right, he hasn't had a
- 40:21singles match, And I think it's cool that he's getting some time to have
- 40:28a match against the great wrestler and he's probably gonna look amazing. Yeah,
- 40:34I'm excited for that match. I mean, obviously, hangman, Adam Paige
- 40:37is gonna win, But yeah, that makes a lot more sense than Rob
- 40:43van Dam for sure. See even if Adam Paige. Look, we know
- 40:45that Adam Page is gonna win, But is Adam Page going to get the
- 40:51snot beat out of him as he wins? Yes, guarantee, yes,
- 40:54yes, Rob dan Dam is not going to beat the snot out of Square
- 40:59Strickland. Even if he even if he wins the match, he's not going
- 41:02to beat the snot out of Stricklin. See what I'm saying. That's just
- 41:07that's just it. So then what else? What other match? Ah?
- 41:14Well, okay, let's just start Jeff Hardy versus John Moxley. That's probably
- 41:20the one that's got me scratching my head the most. Okay, why why
- 41:24are you scratching your head on that one? Because it's just a weird fit.
- 41:30Uh, you know, I guess they're both kind of baby faces.
- 41:34I guess John Moxley is trying to challenge veterans at this point, it's not
- 41:39really clear. Maybe we get a Jeff Hardy heel turn, and he's had
- 41:45some great his last two matches against Swerve last week and Darby at Rampage.
- 41:50We're both like fantastic Jeff Hardy matches. So but that, But John Moxley
- 41:57and his style don't really sink up the me So it is weird. Bill
- 42:02probably be a better match than I'm expecting. Bold prediction time. Boxley isn't
- 42:08gonna bleed in this match either, Yeah, unless he hits his head on
- 42:14the you know, on the stage walking out of the tunnel, you know
- 42:17whatever. Do you think he's not going to bleed? No, he's not
- 42:21gonna bleed. You know how longest bets it's Boxley's blood in a match.
- 42:23Holy cow, he's probably got more blood in his body today that he's had
- 42:29in the last fifteen years, maybe saving up to donate blood. I don't
- 42:36know if he's gonna donate blood at the Revolution, there's gonna be that's gonna
- 42:39be gonna be a blood bath because he's got a lot of storage. Mm
- 42:45hmm. Yeah. Wondering what direction they're going. It seems like a revolution.
- 42:49If I had to guess, he's going to have just one of those
- 42:53random dream matches, maybe somebody out of New Japan or something like that.
- 43:00I really do not. I think I think they got to stop doing that.
- 43:06They really do. I'm sorry. Uh, don't get me wrong.
- 43:10When you get somebody from like will Will Osprey comes over from New Japan,
- 43:15great, But when you have a fifty five year old come in to wrestle
- 43:17Brian Danielson, I am not gonna lie to you. When the Brian Danielson
- 43:22and the Gotta match was going on, I just I was like, oh
- 43:27god, you know, this is just this is just boring. It was
- 43:34a boor It was it good, yes, but it was good in a
- 43:38boring way. I'm the kind of guy that wants to watch you know,
- 43:47mission impossible, and what I got was Dalton Abbey. You know, it
- 43:55doesn't mean the Dalton Abbey is not a good show. It's just not my
- 43:59style. And I honestly, the match was over and I noticed that the
- 44:06match was over, and I in our chat, I was like, oh
- 44:08who won? I totally just zoned out. Yeah, it was so boring.
- 44:14I just like my eyes rolled up into the back of my head and
- 44:17that was it. I was done. I honestly, god did not know
- 44:22who won that match, because you know, it has I mean, I
- 44:25know Brian. I know Brian Danielson won it, because of course he did.
- 44:31But yeah, I can't really picture the ending, actually I can.
- 44:37I actually enjoyed the match more than I thought, but yeah, it's not
- 44:39it's not I actually actually I actually went on YouTube to pay my respects and
- 44:46try to watch the match the next day, like the next afternoon, Sunday
- 44:52afternoon, like just before football playoffs started. NFL playoffs started. You No,
- 44:57my eyes rolled right back into the back of my head again. I
- 45:00was like, no, this is just not That's actually what Eugi Nagata is
- 45:04known for for putting on his like Fuji war arm bar and then rolling his
- 45:08head his eyes in the back of his head, because yeah, look,
- 45:14I have nothing against the new japan guys coming over. But look, when
- 45:17you have Murder Grandpa come out and fight Adam Copeland, and then the next
- 45:27week, like that same week, you have somebody who's older than Murder Grandpa
- 45:30come out, you know, like Murder great Grandpa come out and fight.
- 45:35Brian Daniels said it totally. Look they are I get the purpose of it.
- 45:40They are good matches, They're like dream matches that probably Danielson was just
- 45:45thrilled to death, and I'm happy for him. Then he got to wrestle
- 45:49it, and I bet you Copeland was thrilled to death too, and having
- 45:52wrestled uh Suzuki. But ultimately those matches were completely meaningless. When you have
- 46:01a stacked locker room waiting to have meaningful matches, don't put on meaningless matches.
- 46:10Stop. My biggest wish, and I'm just being honest with you here.
- 46:16My biggest wish is that w W strikes a deal with New Japan,
- 46:21and Forbidden Door is over. Wow, wain and simple. I did not
- 46:27watch Forbidden Door the first I was there. I was not watch Forbidden Door
- 46:32the first one. I did not watch for Forbidden Door. The second one
- 46:37I completely expressed my disinterest in because I look at Forbidden Doors great matches,
- 46:43great matches, meaningless matches and total momentum killers for aw So yeah, I
- 46:52see what you mean. Like they definitely do have to put all their stories
- 46:55on halt basically for meaningless match. I like, I mean, I'm somebody
- 47:02that I love being introduced to new people, but I don't. I don't
- 47:07care about being introduced to Eugene Nagata or Minoro Szuki even like those guys are
- 47:15their best days are so far behind them. Yeah, like I'm going to
- 47:19get excited about following their careers. No, like their careers are over.
- 47:22They're Yeah, I mean a ton of Hashi Holy cow, Yeah he's I
- 47:29mean, I mean we were like nostalgia. Like the guy him being able
- 47:37to walk from the tunnel to the ring is a win for him without you
- 47:44know, he's his knees are completely shot mm hmm. You know, and
- 47:49it's just I'm just sorry. I mean Formidden Door is, they're great matches.
- 47:52I did go back and watch some of them, like the highlights of
- 47:57them, but there is no way I'm gonna for a meaningless show. It
- 48:00really is meaningly, but there's versus Omega. I mean, I could just
- 48:07watch those guys wrestle every single day in my life. The Forbidden Doors show
- 48:12they had there was like a woman's match at the show, and of course
- 48:16it was aw woman against a w woman. That was only like that was
- 48:22a meaningful match. And I'm not saying but there's a there's a far difference
- 48:28than Will Osprey now and Tanahashi now. Yeah, I mean yeah, I
- 48:37mean it is prime. Tanahashi could have probably been one of the could have
- 48:43been just as good as the Osprey match. Mm hmm. Yeah. Anymore,
- 48:49I don't want to see sixty year old, you know, wrestlers out
- 48:53of pay per view. Yeah, I'm sorry, Like I I watched maybe
- 48:59the last like there's I'm gonna There's a lot of great wrestlers in New Japan
- 49:04that are younger guys, up and coming guys, and to me, those
- 49:08are the guys you want to be introducing the American audience to like I want
- 49:13to see new exciting guys having like fast page like peak matches. Yeah,
- 49:22I don't. I don't get Panahashi, I don't get Suzuki. I don't
- 49:25get even yeah, any any of these guys that are bringing in, like
- 49:30obviously Okada is still very much in his prime, but beyond that, they
- 49:35just even Kodobushi. I mean, come on, he can barely move and
- 49:39he's a younger guy. But yeah, it's it's rough. Yeah, I
- 49:44mean, you know, but about what he was on a tricycle with a
- 49:46pipe that was the biggest that was. That was pretty funny, that was.
- 49:51But you know, you know, I don't want to be negative about
- 49:54it, you know too much, but just state back, I do not
- 49:58like the Forbidden Door and the Canadian tour. I like almost as almost as
- 50:05almost do not like that almost as much as the as the uh as Forbidden
- 50:10Door because well I'm Canadian. Yeah, I don't mind it, but it
- 50:15does hurt my wallet because they did a lot of shows in the Toronto and
- 50:20I can't prevent myself from getting in Toronto though you know that's barely Canadian to
- 50:27Americans. You know what I'm saying, it's like it's Canadian, but it's
- 50:34you're you're like us, there's not But when you get the Saskatoon, Saskatchewan,
- 50:42there's people coming out there. You know, they wrote their boose to
- 50:45the show and uh and you know, all twelve of them were there and
- 50:50they had no clue any of these people were because because they don't get them
- 50:55on their transistor radios and they're igloos. You know what I'm saying. It's
- 51:00just that in parts of Canada, they're they just don't know what a w
- 51:07is. AW went some parts like dude last year and it was like,
- 51:12what are you doing? Man? Even yeah, I knew that that was
- 51:15a bad choice, and I'm not in that business, but I was like,
- 51:19what the hell? Mm hmm. They Yeah, they did make some
- 51:22questionable decisions even here. They did a show like in Hamilton, which is
- 51:28next city over. But you know, I think they had to comp some
- 51:30tickets because there wasn't a lot of people that seemed to be that familiar with
- 51:35AW at that show. Yeah, but let me put it this way.
- 51:38Yeah, all right, I'm not saying anything bad about Canada here. What
- 51:43I am saying is that where is the money for a w at it's in
- 51:50the United States, and when you spend all summer, the entirety of the
- 51:58summer out of the country with I think they had one show in the United
- 52:02States in the summer of last year and that three month period of time.
- 52:08That's just plain stupidity. I am sorry. Well, I think the thinking
- 52:15must have been that, hey, we have this truck, we're going to
- 52:17drive it. They probably have a bunch of trucks, they drive them to
- 52:22Canada and then we just drive around Canada for a while. Yeah, so
- 52:25maybe it saved money in some way, like obviously crossing the border is time
- 52:30consuming, and they thought maybe they could sell a bunch of tickets. But
- 52:35yeah, I can only imagine outside of Toronto. Toronto. Toronto was a
- 52:38good, good place to go. Winnipeg was a good place in Montreal too,
- 52:44that's a big state. Montreal was cool, except you could read the
- 52:46signs because they're in Fride. But but now that Philippe and Francois Jackson are
- 52:54the EVPs and with their spray tad and everything and there they're going to be
- 53:00retiring sting. You know, maybe they could go home to Montreal and you
- 53:06know, and they should be right at home, because they do look like
- 53:09up tight French boys to me right now. Yeah, well I believe you
- 53:15know what's his name, Daddy Magic and cool Hand Ange. They're from Montreal
- 53:21or Quebec, all right, Sammy Zaine. So yeah, maybe they could
- 53:24all get together. They could teach him how to actually speak French. Wow.
- 53:35There's two other matches on. Yeah, we've got we've got Kyle Fletcher
- 53:40and Chris Jericho, and then we've also got the Outo Prazzo on Tyavalcar.
- 53:45So yeah, first, Kyle Fletcher is my boy. I love Kyle Fletcher
- 53:52when just because of that six man that six man match at Ring of Honor,
- 53:58like he's my guy for life. Now. I love Kyle Fletcher.
- 54:00He's so good. I think I can't wait to see him just talking about
- 54:05the six man final battle match where he yeah, yeah commander to win the
- 54:09belt. Yeah, that match was just so good. And he's like he's
- 54:15right up there with Kenoski Takeshta. They're like these guys have like the talent
- 54:20of Kenny Omega and just and he's so big too, Like both these guys
- 54:24are like six to three. They look great, they're so young, like
- 54:30I just think the sky's the limit for Kyle Fletcher. Unfortunately, he's probably
- 54:35gonna lose to Chris Jericho here and set up a feud with for the next
- 54:39pay per view with the rest of the family. But do you think I
- 54:44actually think that he's that Jericho is going to succumb to uh to Kyle Fletcher.
- 54:51And I got to give a special shout out to shades the Vibe by
- 54:54mentioning that, yeah, Kyle Fletcher has like the worst haircut of any manner.
- 55:00Yes he does. Yeah, he does. When you see him not
- 55:04wrestling, it kind of makes more sense. It looks a little bit more
- 55:07appropriate when you see his clothes in that. But it's very it's very off
- 55:13putting. Yeah, I'm not kidding you here, and I hate to be
- 55:16crass and I may have that it this out, but his haircut looks like
- 55:20a looks like a circumcision gone wrong. I'm sorry. Yeah, but he's
- 55:27a bad guy, so I guess it kind of works. Yes, I
- 55:31mean, look at Boris Natasha. All those guys have bad haircut, so
- 55:36yeah, yees. Do you give tya Valkyria Snowball's chance and hell meaning Deanna
- 55:43Barozzo no, obviously not. I mean Leanna Prozzo's fresh, she's new.
- 55:52Ta Valkyrie has already kind of been a jobber to the stars for a little
- 55:55while. But like in all fairness, time of val, I feel like
- 56:00she's someone that we we've mentioned how good the women's division in AW is once
- 56:06they get some people coming back in big names, and I don't think once
- 56:09we've mentioned Tya Valkyrie, But I think she's good. She's definitely a higher
- 56:15echelon woman's wrestler in my opinion, and doing well at our Oh yeah,
- 56:23yeah, and I think she belongs in that conversation. But yeah, it's
- 56:28going to be a Deanna Prazzo make her look good match, and I think
- 56:31it'll be a good woman's match for sure. It should be a good match,
- 56:36but there's no way that that ty of Valkyri is going to win.
- 56:38And we're also going to see the non wrestling edition of the AW Women's World
- 56:44Champion Tony Storm on commentary. Uh so we're getting close to well, I
- 56:50think we've actually surpassed now two months, yes, two months today since Tony
- 56:55Storm has been in a wrestling ring. So yeah, no one, I
- 57:05know you were intensely keeping track of this. Well, I'm just saying it's
- 57:08like, come on, I mean, if you're gonna have champions, they
- 57:13got to get in the ring and fight. And I don't even count Ricky
- 57:15Starks a big bill. Their defense against Jericho and Sammy is as a I
- 57:24don't think it counts because they never made it to the ring. I don't
- 57:29think they were ever in the rig. If they were, it was a
- 57:30very brief period of time. You got to get into ring and fight if
- 57:34you're a champion. And Tony Storm has won the championship on November eighteenth,
- 57:38and she's had two matches, two total matches, been well over two months,
- 57:43and that's just not gonna fly. Sorry, I mean, if if
- 57:47that's gonna be the case, take to take the title off of Tony Storm
- 57:51and put it on somebody that's gonna wrestle, because that's what I watched the
- 57:53show sports to see them wrestle. And if your champion's not wrestling like Tony
- 57:59Storm, you're If your champions not wrestling like Ricky Stark's a big bill,
- 58:02and what's the point having them in having them in the having them with a
- 58:06title. Yeah, I'm just being honest. There you know, I mean
- 58:10to wrestling. You know, Tony Ston's there, She's being treated like a
- 58:15big deal at least like compared to Ricky Starks some big bill. They do
- 58:20feel like an afterthought. I mean, you mentioned Ricky Stark's potentially leaving in
- 58:25free agency, and you kind of get that vibe that maybe he's being treated
- 58:30as such. He's hanging around, but you know, biting his time.
- 58:37I don't know, but they gotta do some. I mean, you talk
- 58:39to anybody about it on social media. One of the big things that what
- 58:45does AW have to improve the tacting division because it's it's it's bad right now.
- 58:52Yeah, that was so good. It was so good before with FTR
- 58:58and them with like all the tag titles and the Young Bucks and Loucher Brothers
- 59:05and having like amazing matches and yeah, and it's it's coming back. It's
- 59:09coming back. But you know they're just it's it hasn't They've had good tag
- 59:16matches, but there's been no good tag title matches. Yeah, you need
- 59:23you needed multiple. It feels like there's not a lot of tag teams that
- 59:29are being treated as tag teams and fighting other tag teams. Yeah, but
- 59:37if you look at it. Over the last month or two, AW has
- 59:39done a really decent job of building the men's tag division. Unfortunately, the
- 59:45tag teams that they've been mentioning are not getting title shots, you know,
- 59:52other than Chris Jericho and Sammy Guevara, you know. And frankly, that
- 59:58was a goes good match. I enjoyed that. It was a lot of
- 1:00:02fun. Yeah, you know, but it was. I mean, nobody's
- 1:00:08was fun to watch. But nobody's really talking about it right now other than
- 1:00:13that spot. Yeah. No, it feels like FTR lost the titles the
- 1:00:19Big Bill and Ricky Starks, and then the tag titles just fell into like
- 1:00:23a bottomless pit and they just became something no one cares or thinks about anymore.
- 1:00:30And hopefully it sounds like Darby Allen and Sting are gonna retrieve those tag
- 1:00:37titles, put them on the line against the Young Bucks, and maybe the
- 1:00:39Young Bucks will take them and bring us to a much better place. Let
- 1:00:46me ask you this, do you have any put you on the spot here?
- 1:00:50Do you have any spicy predictions for Dynamite tomorrow? I guess that the
- 1:01:00the most spicy prediction I can make based on what I'm looking at is Jeff
- 1:01:05Hardy heel turn like full out heel Jeff Hardy. Okay, maybe attacking John
- 1:01:12Moxley in some form after the match, Like something's gonna happen with Jeff Hardy.
- 1:01:16I feel like you think Matt Hardy gets involved in that too, because
- 1:01:21Matt Hardy will probably be out at the ring. He could. I find
- 1:01:24it hard to imagine Jeff Hardy and Matt Hardy alone as being good competition for
- 1:01:31the Blackpool Combat Club, right, but yeah, maybe something along those lines,
- 1:01:39like they need more guys if they're gonna do that. But yeah,
- 1:01:44I see something happening interesting with Jeff Hardy. That's my spicy prediction. My
- 1:01:50spicy prediction is far, far less engaging, intelligent, or even make sense.
- 1:01:58My spicy prediction is that we're going to see the mother of all Food
- 1:02:01of all shoe fights tomorrow night. I think that we're gonna see Mariah May,
- 1:02:05Tony Storm, Diana Pronzo, and Tia Valkyri just really tossing the shoes.
- 1:02:12I think we're going to see a full odd bloodbath with shoes. I
- 1:02:15just watched the stiletto does get stuck in your forehead, That's all I can
- 1:02:20say, are they they're all going to throw their own shoes? I think
- 1:02:28that No, I think that Tony Storm and Mariah May will we'll throw shoes,
- 1:02:32they will get thrown back, and then maybe Mariah May. This is
- 1:02:37how Maria May is going to turn on Tony Storm by hitting Tony Storm with
- 1:02:42the shoe accidentally. No, I think on purpose, because I don't think
- 1:02:45I think that's the whole point of it is. Yeah, you know,
- 1:02:49there's just it's weird because when you look at the at Samoa Joe, we
- 1:02:55we know who we think is going to go after the title at at the
- 1:03:04Revolution, but we're not sure if it's going to be one person, or
- 1:03:07if it's going to be two persons, or if it's gonna be three persons.
- 1:03:10And we've kind of the same situation with which situation with Tony Storm.
- 1:03:15Yeah, it looks like Deanna Parazzo is going to be going after the belt.
- 1:03:19But frankly, it seems more reasonable for thunder Rosa to go after the
- 1:03:23belt because again, thunder Rosa never lost the title when Tony Storm got it
- 1:03:28initially, you know, as the Intern champion. So yeah, thunder Rose
- 1:03:37could rightfully say I never lost the title, so it's hers to hers to
- 1:03:40get back. You know, she should be the number one contender. She
- 1:03:44never lost it, so yeah, yeah, for sure. And have they
- 1:03:49announced Dianna Parozzo versus Tony for the pay per view? Is that they have
- 1:03:53not announced it, but it just seems obvious that that's what the way they're
- 1:03:58going, you know. Yeah, I mean they're building up the other thing
- 1:04:02that's going to be interesting tomorrow night. And I may be wrong on this,
- 1:04:05but I do believe the rankings are going to be revealed. They're coming
- 1:04:08back tomorrow night. Could they could be it could be uh on collision,
- 1:04:15but I'm pretty sure the rankings are going to be revealed tomorrow night. So
- 1:04:19look at the lower thirds when these wrestlers come out, because I think you're
- 1:04:23going to see the rankings as part of their lower thirds again. So that
- 1:04:27would be interesting to see. M M yeah, I guess would be a
- 1:04:30big part of Surtrick Lind and hang Man Out of Pages match like. So,
- 1:04:35I don't know if you can remind me how their rankings work. Is
- 1:04:40it you have to become the number one ranked person in order to get a
- 1:04:45title shot. But what they used to do to number one person would get
- 1:04:49a title shot. However, sometimes they would have number one and number two
- 1:04:56with number three get into a three way match and the winner that match gets
- 1:04:59a title shot. Uh huh, yeah, that's you know, so you
- 1:05:02know, there's different ways they can do it. The only problem that I
- 1:05:05have with the ranking system is that it still just comes down to booking.
- 1:05:15So if you want to make Commander the number one contender, you just put
- 1:05:21Commander against in matches that he's going to have a win against, you know,
- 1:05:29local talent or sir petigo, you know, stuff like that, and
- 1:05:35let him rack up some wins and next thing you know, hey, he's
- 1:05:39he's got the he's the number one rank contender, and that he did in
- 1:05:45the past, and then they would have a number one contender fight for the
- 1:05:48championship, lose, and then that number one contender would then fall down the
- 1:05:55rankings and they would never get built back up, but they just be tossed
- 1:05:58aside. They've got to make the fame ranking is more fluid and meaningful,
- 1:06:01not just as a means to build up somebody to lose and never be seen
- 1:06:06again. Yeah. Yeah, and that's whether there's rankings. There are no
- 1:06:13rankings. They have to do that, all right, then, Well I
- 1:06:18think that's gonna be it for the show. Uh, Alex, always a
- 1:06:24pleasure talking to you. Yeah, thank you bye for now. Yeah so
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- 1:06:39Good night, everybody,