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Married to Medicine EXCLUSIVE with Dr. Simone and Toya · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 3: Okay, so, rain.
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  Speaker 4: Drop, this one is very special. No, this is not AI.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing is artificially here. Baby, I be Carlos King got
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  Speaker 4: Sam out of the doctor's office to make an appearance
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  Speaker 4: on her favorite Blockers podcasts. Yeah, listen, I'm gonna run
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  Speaker 4: with this book because no, listen, we're gonna talk about that.
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  Speaker 4: And you all know my detoic is. Y'all may call
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  Speaker 4: her treacherous Toya a baby to me, she is my
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  Speaker 4: love giving up for the stars baby, the Dynamic Duo
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  Speaker 4: their husbands were here last time, but knock.
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  Speaker 2: Out the mind?
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  Speaker 3: How don't we know I'll do that?
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  Speaker 2: Did you like to interview Get? First of all? Fantastic job,
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  Speaker 2: Y'll probably very very absolutely yes.
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  Speaker 3: Are you gonna be as sweet a.
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  Speaker 5: Way?
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  Speaker 3: Questions?
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  Speaker 2: Very entertaining, I've got.
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  Speaker 6: I got so many calls and they were like they
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  Speaker 6: loved it, and I literally, honestly all my way here.
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  Speaker 2: I sent it to my mom because she was like,
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  Speaker 2: what are for you? She couldn't wait, you know, so
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  Speaker 2: she call me backs watching it. Did you like to talk?
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  Speaker 7: Was a god some moone approved.
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  Speaker 2: I loved it. And for a nano second when you
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  Speaker 2: asked Cecil about Timmy, I thought, Carlos.
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  Speaker 4: What I was doing it for the audience. I don't
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  Speaker 4: care personally. What I do is for the audience. And
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  Speaker 4: I want to start with this all jump aside. I
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  Speaker 4: am so grateful and thankful that you said yes to
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  Speaker 4: coming on my podcast, because number one, you don't do interviews,
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  Speaker 4: you just you.
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  Speaker 7: You do not do press.
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  Speaker 3: If Bravo says them up, I do.
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  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Bravo says them up.
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  Speaker 2: But you're not like You're not like.
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  Speaker 4: Out there with the publicist outside of Bravo's publicists trying
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  Speaker 4: to garner press you. And you've been on the show
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  Speaker 4: for ten years and you have always focused, you know,
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  Speaker 4: primarily on your your business, on the amazing work you
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  Speaker 4: have done in.
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  Speaker 7: The community of Georgia and in the medical field.
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  Speaker 4: So I really do appreciate you being here. And for me,
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  Speaker 4: I want the audience to know this. And I'm not
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  Speaker 4: going to be emotional because this means something to me.
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  Speaker 4: What it means to me is as black people and unscripted,
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  Speaker 4: it's only so a few of us.
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  Speaker 7: And yes, I have my own production company.
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  Speaker 4: I have my own shows that you talk about, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, I choose to make Mariti Medicine my priority
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  Speaker 4: because I always felt that it was the best show
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  Speaker 4: on the air to me. And to be able for
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  Speaker 4: this season to have the opportunity for every Monday to
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  Speaker 4: go live with Doctor Heavily, who's my dentist and friend,
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  Speaker 4: just to like give our opinions on the show, you know,
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  Speaker 4: has really made people aware that know this show.
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  Speaker 7: You guys should be watching. And yes, you.
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  Speaker 4: And I I of misunderstanding apparently repeat me, man, what
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  Speaker 4: was funny about this?
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  Speaker 2: Is this what we're showing the world? Is this? Nothing?
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  Speaker 7: Is that deep?
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  Speaker 3: Correct?
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  Speaker 7: We had fun with that. I have been told from.
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  Speaker 4: Doctor Heavily to your husband correct saying like it was
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  Speaker 4: there and zero yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad to be here in person so that I
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  Speaker 2: can say to you, so that I can say to
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  Speaker 2: your rain drops. It absolutely was not shade to you.
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  Speaker 2: What I was trying to say is I'm thinking in
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  Speaker 2: my head, we're doing good. In my phone on the
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  Speaker 2: text messages, I'm doing good with this person. And then
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden there's an interviewer, there's a blogger,
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  Speaker 2: there is a tweet that shows me something different than
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  Speaker 2: what's going on in reality. Yes, and that really honestly,
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  Speaker 2: this has been going on for years. So it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: just this year that it happened. And I was trying
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  Speaker 2: to make that point. I am sorry if I offended you.
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  Speaker 2: I have known about you since you were producing on
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  Speaker 2: Housewives with your show Cecil and I watch several of
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  Speaker 2: your shows, like We Got your Back as a Black Man,
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  Speaker 2: you had the after Dark show. We were watching that
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  Speaker 2: every episode.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you, And so I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Have to be invited to an interview.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have to be your favorite cast member on
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  Speaker 2: my show for me to still support black excellence.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, and I thank you for that, and I
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  Speaker 4: of course feel the same way and listen.
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  Speaker 2: It also goes to show you.
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  Speaker 4: That listen sometimes, and I'll take responsibility for this.
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  Speaker 7: You get caught up in.
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  Speaker 4: The pray of like you know people, and I'm a funny.
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  Speaker 7: Guy, like to have fun.
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  Speaker 4: And again, this is to show the world that it
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  Speaker 4: ain't that deep.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 4: It was never that deep, and I am happy to
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  Speaker 4: have cleared the air and.
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  Speaker 7: We're gonna have fun.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna get to some stuff.
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  Speaker 4: To Child, But for the most part, I want to
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  Speaker 4: say thank you to for doing this again. Marrition Medicine
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  Speaker 4: is my favorite show.
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  Speaker 7: I've said it for years.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not new to this, I'm true to this, and
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  Speaker 4: this season has been fucking amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Really what makes them amazing?
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  Speaker 4: And listen, let's let's let's have a real conversation, real let.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do it this.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, every season has been fantastic, you guys.
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  Speaker 2: In my humble opinion, you.
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  Speaker 4: Guys have been the only show to me that has
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  Speaker 4: consistently had great seasons.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, some seasons be.
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  Speaker 4: Like Child, this ain't that greatest, but it's okay with
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  Speaker 4: on things the next season, you guys have consistently been great. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: So that's no surprise this season, Baby, we gotta.
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  Speaker 2: Give it up for Sweet Tea. Okay, you know we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna give it up to Sweet Tea. I'm glad you
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  Speaker 2: said that because she's like he does, she needs.
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  Speaker 4: What's crazy about this with Sweet Tea is this and
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  Speaker 4: Sweet Tea.
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  Speaker 2: If you're if you're watching, I want you to know this.
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  Speaker 4: What Samona and I just did was have a real
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  Speaker 4: grown conversation and some ownership. And for me, if you
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  Speaker 4: watch the stuff that people don't clip to show you,
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  Speaker 4: I said day one on my recaps with Heavenly, that
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  Speaker 4: sweet Tea baby.
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  Speaker 2: Now, look am I right? I said, Dave.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I was like, she's the one. Now we're having fun.
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  Speaker 2: So it's fun as shake.
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  Speaker 4: Like well clalls on her vision war and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: It's me being silly. And if I offended you, Sweet Tea, apologize.
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  Speaker 2: I'm never here to offend the girls. I love all
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  Speaker 2: the girls. I'm not here to offend the girls. I said,
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  Speaker 2: they want. Sweet Tea brought something.
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  Speaker 4: That the show needed, and Pedra, I'm gonna tell you.
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  Speaker 4: Aedra obviously being a house a former housewife, brought that
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  Speaker 4: excitement like what are we going to get?
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  Speaker 2: And then it was like.
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  Speaker 4: Back to swift But because you ladies are the og
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  Speaker 4: so you already know how this is made.
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  Speaker 2: So it was that doctor.
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  Speaker 4: G and the quad thing and and it made everyone
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  Speaker 4: sort of like figure out this new world that you
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  Speaker 4: guys embraced an amazing season forty six percent increase in
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  Speaker 4: the ratings.
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  Speaker 2: You guys have done so well in.
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  Speaker 4: The ratings, beating other shows and live same day, which
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  Speaker 4: is hard to do your tenth season.
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  Speaker 2: I did hear though that with this show.
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  Speaker 4: Getting the attention that it always deserved, that some of
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  Speaker 4: the casts are used to it, and it's becoming a
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  Speaker 4: little i'm gonna say scary. It's just different because it's
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  Speaker 4: not like, well, they are every.
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  Speaker 2: Beat down for this season, the absolute beatdown, and the
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  Speaker 2: majority of the feedback that I've gotten from Twitter, from
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  Speaker 2: social media, eighty percent of it has been positive. I've
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  Speaker 2: had a bad year, but this year, I babe. They
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  Speaker 2: are dragging me through the mud, but they're dragging her.
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  Speaker 2: After the reunion, I think I got dragged after NAPA.
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  Speaker 2: I got I don't know, I got blamed for NAPA.
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  Speaker 6: It was almost like it was almost like even though
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  Speaker 6: Simone was the.
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  Speaker 3: One who initiated. And let's be clear, I.
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  Speaker 6: Want everyone to know, this woman will never do what
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  Speaker 6: I ask her to do.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't agree, no let me.
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  Speaker 6: If you don't agree, If she doesn't agree with what
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  Speaker 6: I'm asked, correct, she's going and she knows.
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  Speaker 3: There hasn't been a season that I have.
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  Speaker 2: Ever said, hey, I think she should be off our
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  Speaker 2: show to anyone. I have never said that about Mariah.
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  Speaker 6: I've never said it about Quad, I've never said it
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  Speaker 6: about Heavenly. What I will say is there.
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  Speaker 2: Should be some type of equality amongst us.
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  Speaker 3: If I feel in a certain.
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  Speaker 2: Amount of time, if I show my family, if I
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  Speaker 2: show you know, personal real life things, I would like
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  Speaker 2: to see the same for our audience.
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  Speaker 3: I don't believe that was happening for.
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  Speaker 6: Years on our show, and so I think NAPA was
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  Speaker 6: the build up for everyone. I think everyone was just
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  Speaker 6: at a place where they were just like they had
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  Speaker 6: their own reasons, but it really was about that individual
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  Speaker 6: not showing up up end of the day, she's still show.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's let's let's get into that.
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  Speaker 4: So based on what we've seen, right, because again I
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  Speaker 4: create shows, our produced shows, so I know firsthand you
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  Speaker 4: can't show everything like you just can't. We have forty
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  Speaker 4: two minutes to show, y'all a plethora of scenes, and
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna miss.
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  Speaker 7: The mark sometimes, right.
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  Speaker 4: What we saw was there wasn't enough evidence, as the
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  Speaker 4: audience does the audience.
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  Speaker 6: So you mean there wasn't enough evidence for the season
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  Speaker 6: or past.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna say that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched every season, Okay, even though it was
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  Speaker 4: Buffy was on Audra.
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  Speaker 7: We should have come back. I love baby, do you
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  Speaker 7: like I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know her to like her?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you sure you watched every season because you would.
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  Speaker 2: Know I to. I don't know gonna like her, thanking
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  Speaker 2: her a little bit more now than during the season.
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  Speaker 2: I felt like she didn't really reach out. My advice
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  Speaker 2: to anybody new filming a reality show that's existing, get
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  Speaker 2: to know everybody for yourself. Don't yet believe what you've watched.
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  Speaker 2: Get in there. Get to know each individual for yourself,
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  Speaker 2: even if you think that's somebody I would never like.
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  Speaker 2: Because filming with each lady on my show, especially one
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  Speaker 2: on one, you can have a good time.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna have some laughs with each.
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  Speaker 2: And every one of us, But if you don't take
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  Speaker 2: the time to do it, you're not gonna know that. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 7: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: You have to get to know.
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  Speaker 4: People outside of the show, and I know that when
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  Speaker 4: it comes to Quad, a lot of you ladies felt
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  Speaker 4: that if you guys weren't filming a scene, you do
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  Speaker 4: not hear from her.
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  Speaker 2: I'm aware that you.
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  Speaker 4: Ladies have said that off season, you guys just do
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  Speaker 4: not talk at all, meaning she doesn't talk to you ladies.
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  Speaker 4: You ladies keep a touch with each other, so we
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  Speaker 4: know that, but from the audience, obviously, we don't see that.
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  Speaker 4: What we did see in past seasons was she wasn't
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  Speaker 4: the closest to you ladies, especially when she made the speech.
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  Speaker 2: About her sister Circle.
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  Speaker 4: Co host, and we saw that you ladies were upset there.
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  Speaker 4: Now this season, yes again all these speaking as a viewer,
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  Speaker 4: we did not see enough evidence to where Quah had
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  Speaker 4: to get kicked off the island and her basace robe
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  Speaker 4: being called down from a hotel suite.
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  Speaker 6: And honestly, I hate that because when none of us
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  Speaker 6: wanted that. I think the problem was the cameras were
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  Speaker 6: up and they just did not show the way Quad
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  Speaker 6: really came into that book. It was like she was like, look,
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  Speaker 6: I'm here for a check only not to support you.
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  Speaker 3: And then she turns around and says as a difference,
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  Speaker 3: and she's like.
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  Speaker 2: I'm here to see I'm for you, and it was like,
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  Speaker 2: what was wrong with her?
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  Speaker 8: You know?
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  Speaker 6: And so we just got upon her fed up. We
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  Speaker 6: just wanted people to be their genuine self. If you
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  Speaker 6: genuinely don't want to support Toya, or if you just
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  Speaker 6: don't if you have an issue with me, whether it
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  Speaker 6: be Audior or anyone.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, do what you would do.
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  Speaker 2: In real life, not what you would do because the
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  Speaker 2: camera's on. So let's just analyze what would shown. Let's
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  Speaker 2: let's give credit to the editing. Right, she wasn't around
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  Speaker 2: first appearance. You crash a bachelorette party, you were not invited,
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  Speaker 2: and what was the purpose of that? Okay, so we're
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  Speaker 2: not even gonna get into a purpose. You crashed her
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  Speaker 2: party that you were not invited to, and then you
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  Speaker 2: have a resurrection that basically turned into a ship show.
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  Speaker 3: We ended on a ship show, and she said we did.
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  Speaker 8: Not end.
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  Speaker 2: In a good way, right, And so now the next
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  Speaker 2: thing is Napper.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, let's keep it a buck.
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  Speaker 2: Forget editing, Let's keep it a buck. The Napper trip
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  Speaker 2: belonged to Toyo, and I'm like, hey, I'm all about the
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  Speaker 2: places she What place is she with Toya? And if
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  Speaker 2: it were me, right, you got to have a one
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  Speaker 2: on one with the person whose trip it was. She
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  Speaker 2: didn't want. I would have fought with production to have
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  Speaker 2: a one on one. Listen, I heard a phone call
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  Speaker 2: of facetimed anything. Listen, I heard you were having a
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  Speaker 2: girl's trip. I know that you and I are not
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  Speaker 2: in the best place. I know that the resid direction
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  Speaker 2: hasn't gone well. Our production company loves the one on
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  Speaker 2: one loves me years and so again, show some effort
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  Speaker 2: like you're really trying to fake us out to be
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  Speaker 2: a part of the group, right other than you're on
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  Speaker 2: a show cast cashing a check, and I'll take the
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  Speaker 2: beat down with the viewers. I'll take it because I
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  Speaker 2: stand in my authentic self.
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  Speaker 3: And on that trip she had had a connection.
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  Speaker 2: With zero people. It did make logical.
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  Speaker 3: Sense that she was there. She she didn't fly out
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  Speaker 3: there with anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody wanted to be associated with her in flight.
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  Speaker 3: You know how we do the little.
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  Speaker 6: Because truly she had it been me or some more,
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  Speaker 6: we would stay and we would have been turning up
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  Speaker 6: and they would have filmed it. They would have filmed us,
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  Speaker 6: me by myself doing something, and she would have been
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  Speaker 6: in an episode because there Quide may be filmed three,
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  Speaker 6: four or five houses, but she still was in every episode.
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  Speaker 3: She does it all the time.
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  Speaker 2: She signs her contract late, we've already started, but we
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  Speaker 2: will literally have started and filmed the whole month and
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  Speaker 2: they were looking like Kwan was in the first episode.
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  Speaker 3: And she would have been in that episode.
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  Speaker 2: Even if her she had a one on one with
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  Speaker 2: Toy and it was a blow up, she would still
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  Speaker 2: been in the episode.
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  Speaker 3: And so it is about.
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  Speaker 2: Maneuvering in a way that's smart and convincing. Right, But
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  Speaker 2: you can't blame us for your issues with anybody. If
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  Speaker 2: you are not getting along with anybody in the room,
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  Speaker 2: you are the common denominator. You are the problem. I
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  Speaker 2: love that she has people that ride with her outside
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  Speaker 2: of the show. I ride with her. I tried writing
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  Speaker 2: with her. She's not interested. That's okay, pack your bags
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  Speaker 2: when you.
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  Speaker 4: Watch the episode out because you know, I want to
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  Speaker 4: have a real conversation too when.
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  Speaker 2: You first watch.
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  Speaker 6: When she first watched it, she was like, I'm going
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  Speaker 6: to get They're gonna kill me.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's insane.
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  Speaker 4: I'm and you know, I'm very real. I'm very honest.
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  Speaker 4: When I watched that episode, it did something to me
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  Speaker 4: emotion It did because because well, no, no, no, listen, listen, listen.
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  Speaker 2: Let's be real. Had I said Alicia home, you would it.
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  Speaker 3: Would have done something to you.
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: Not at that time, She's passive New Challenge that she
• 19:54
  Speaker 9: was on at this New Challenge for a decade has
• 19:56
  Speaker 9: not Doctor Misha.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I'm advocating for you to come back next year. I
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: do like her.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna be real obviously. Yes, I'm friends with Quad.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: I'm also friends with Toya. I'm friends with the Heavily.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: You and I will be friends. Not gonna be mad,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: but no real talk.
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: Because I have such a fashion for this show.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: And the reason why I love this show is because
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: I always said to myself, damn one thing about this cast.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: They get into it, but they find a way to
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: bring it back home. Yes, and that's what's missing on
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: reality television. I look at my own shows like I
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: gotta figure some shit out because y'all be the way
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: too long and I'm over it, and I have to
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: apply down to some cities, hey, hon Stile to get
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: them together and get back together. So what triggered me
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: outside of her being my friend? I was triggered by
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: just one person being exiled in terms of again, I'm
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: only just watching the show.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: And wasn't were you triggered because because the public also
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: was there, we had.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Exiled No no, no, no, no, no no, again, because the
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: public exiles me when they feel like it, and I
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: get rid, I'll be like, ty, y'all crazy, Do we.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Have the ability to exile though?
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: No, you don't. You do not. So that's so I'm
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: gonna tell you what.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I don't have that kind of power.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna tell you what triggered me. It felt
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: like it felt like we're all going to let her
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: know how we feel by any means necessary, even when
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: she's apologizing, because I'm I'm gonna tell.
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: You, I'm gonna tell you what's wrong.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Let's be real.
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: What went wrong was at least when the camera.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Was rolling, she was apologized. She apologized a lot.
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: I don't know what happened before doing.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: A lunch break, a battery change, you know, a potty break.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: All I can say to you on the television is
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: I want you guys to really see things from the
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: perspective of the audience. Right again, I produced this shit,
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: so I.
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: Know way more right. It triggered me because I was like,
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: I don't want y'all.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: To be seen as a bunch of bullies, because I've
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: never seen that in the ten years on this show,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: and so it wasn't triggering that my friend.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Was So, how would you have handled it? Producer had
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: real talk?
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Yes, I would have done a one on one I
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: would her and I yes, and I would have been
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: the spokesperson on behalf of the collective. This is how
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: we're feeling, and if you would like to understand how
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: the girls are feeling, let you and I have the
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: conversation and then we're at a decent place. Let me
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: bring you in to the collective because if they visually
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: see that, okay, Toya and Quad made amends, at.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: Least we know that she's at the place to do.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: So. Was that what we did while we're with Mariah
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: back in the day, Yeah, remember in New Orleans. Yes,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: that was how we brought her back. Me and Mariah
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: had a conversation and I said, I'm going to bring
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: you to New Orleans.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: No one knew when she appeared. They all looked at me, like,
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: really you brought her?
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I mean off camera there was so much going on.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: But you're right, it did allow them to say, well,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: she's back.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: She has a connection here.
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: Maybe we need to figure out our own connections with her.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: But from a producer's standpoint, you're saying that he should
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: have orchestrated himself. Because the difference between our show I
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: would I would have to say in a lot of
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: shows is that we.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Don't orchestrate stuff. It's truly about organically, about how we feel,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: how we moved.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: And why would I call her?
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: You see what I'm saying of everything that has transpired
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: with me back then, and this is us talking about
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: the situation.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Back then, right, Why would I have called her?
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: Because everything that has happened with her and my husband
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: and I, my children, everything else had never been settled.
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: There was no I'm.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Sorry at that point from her, never, not even.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: At the reunion last year. There was nothing.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: There was no ownership. We went to Bravo Khan never
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: and then when the camera goes up, it was random.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: So you felt like club plays in the camera. She
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: plays in the audience a profession, Yes, And I think
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: that to have a show, you how to have a
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: couple of those you.
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: Do you have, you have, you have one person that
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: caters to the audience and whatever the audience says, whatever.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: The audience, Heavenly, if the audience is saying, are you disagree,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: she does do that. If the audience don't like Toyda.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: It only does not like Toya. Oh, then you have that.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Other individual who is the victim.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: You tell me because you said you're an advocate, you
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: just scause they.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Want but you do know they exist medicine.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I would say that I and I hate to say
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: it because then, oh my god, Toya's.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Mad at Quad.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not mad at her. I just don't like the
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: gas lighting that she does. It's like she constantly plays
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: this role like you know there they don't, and she
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: waits for.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: The audience to say things like what they don't.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Like you, Quad? You should go on Real Housewives of Atlanta.
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: And it's like, isn't this the same thing that you
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: deal with Mariah.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: It's the exact same thing.
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: I didn't ask her that it is.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: And she and she can't.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: For the life of me, I don't understand why she
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: can't see it.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: You literally said.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: This girl was doing drugs. You went on to say
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: her family, y'all said.
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: Whatever about each other, right, dragged each other through the mud.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Never came back around.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: And but you want people to come back around.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: For you, Well, we did see at the reunion though, and.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I do come back around. We saw at the reunion,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: she went on an apology tour.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I did say that.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I said, Beyonce sold about her tour, my tour reality
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: with the King sitting in you, My tour is selling out,
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: and I said, qua, it's on the apology tour now.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Honestly think she was genuine I thought she was.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: I I think I have a good judge of character,
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: and I think at that time she was genuinely apologetic.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: But she also knows, and everyone knows in this industry
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: that at the reunion.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: If you don't do that ars putting the nail in
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: your conston, if you don't make a man, yeah, and
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: if you don't bring you don't give enough for people
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: to talk about you. It's the reality for God's sake,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I just feel like,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: was it convenient TV for her to apologize?
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: I don't know, but I took it genuinely and I said,
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: I appreciate it and moving forward, but there has been
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: no changeing an.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: So well, we saw the reunion and this is what
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: I said too heavily when we through our lives, I
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: said that that's why I love this fucking show, because
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: when I saw doctor Jackie and Kui have that moment,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: everybody's got to launch break and they're crying. I said,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: that's why we love the show. We get to see that.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Then we saw that with you and her. I would
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: like to address what happened part one reunion where everybody
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: have very strong reactions, even me, based on you telling
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: the story what happened at Quas Home for the child.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I did say to.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: My audience, they like to call you surround sound some.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I'm about to appreciate.
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: To me, I'm me too, me too, me too.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: So my rain drop said that is around sounds some O,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: and I thought that was great.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: So that's one of your pan bates.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, So I said to the audience, I said, if
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: I'm able to give her the benefit of the doubt,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: one thing I know about these reunions. You guys are
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: seated far apart, and I said, maybe doctor Simonte and
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: I heard quad when.
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: She said none of them. I heard her. You heard her?
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Why did you feel they need to say I had.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I was making a very specific point that needed to land.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: And the point is, even when she is not speaking
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: to me, even when I am not speaking to her,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I show up. It's whenever I think that that's how
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I process who's real in my life versus who's just
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: here faked it? Because, let me finish, Atlanta's one of
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: those cities where people are here when the money is rolling,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: when the times are good, people the room is full.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: It is when shit is down that you got those
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: one or.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Two people right by your side.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: And even though she was saying not to say it, honestly,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: it's been said before. It's been on the news, it's
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: been on social media. It is not like I said
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: anything that's not already out there. It is not like
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I gossiped about anything I heard surrounding it. But the
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: point was, no matter what condition you and I are in,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I still show up for you in a real way,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: the realist that it's ever gonna get Why didn't I
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Why Now that that reunion on a good foot, I
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: have a whole stream of text messages because I texted her.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: The next day.
• 30:23
  Speaker 10: First of all, she came right after that and hugged me.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: We embraced. I texted her the next day, regardless of
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: this show, regardless of this platform, I'm gonna always love you.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Two weeks ago, I had a birthday, Hey, what's up?
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: For your birthday.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Let's get together from quad.
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: Okay, I got.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Those receipts in my cell phone and so again, once
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: that episode hits and the fans go in, right, but
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I'll stand in my truth.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: And we're not We're not cool right now, Oh Nash.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: No, because again the fans have told her that I'm
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: a low down, dirty bitch. But saying that after she
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: told me not to, even though she came to hunt
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: me right after that.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: What was the last communication you guys have via text's birthday?
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: It was the birthday. Yes, my birthday is February twenty third,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: but we've been texting the whole time since January twenty
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: third's so, I'm sorry.
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: Yell around sounds some a You're good.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: I'm just wondering why, I think because I think the
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: audience and just speaking from an audience perspective, they probably
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: felt that you were getting too invasive, right Because she's
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: saying no, no, no, don't bring it up, don't bring
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: it up.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: I would have said there was an incident that occurred
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: at her house. She said that no, no, no, no no,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: I would not have mentioned I would have gone pregnant
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: in detail because I would have seen this woman already
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: triggered by the thought of me saying it, I would
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: have stopped it. And I'm saying this as.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Somebody who was told by.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: A cast member on Love and Match Huntsville when we
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: filmed Martell apologizing to his son, I was listen. I
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: wasn't in the room. I didn't produced it. I wasn't
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: in the state of Alabama. But because it's my production
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: company and it's my show that I created, I took
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: for a responsibility instead. I didn't know my bad. It
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: will never happen again, and it hasn't. So I think
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: that's why I got unfair.
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: I think it's unfair for people to feel like we
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: would attack or Simon would attack Quad in a place
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: where she would have been triggered.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't move in a way that I would
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: ever want to harm anybody as a result of filming
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I see you're getting emotional. Doctor Simone wives that, and.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: You know I made the comment, and.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: As inappropriate as it was, it wasn't my intent to
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: injure her or anybody in her family. It wasn't the
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: intent to read injure was to drive home the point.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: But again, I have nothing.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: But love for Quad.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: If we never speak again, and that's what I told
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: her the next the next day, literally, if we never
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: speak again, I still have nothing but love for her.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: And again, for people to take this narrative that we
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: would try to push any one individual off of the
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: show is a bad narrative. Each individual owns her position
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: on the show, and she is the only one who
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: keeps her job or loses her job.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: So if then I'm you know, if the rain drops
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: say that and see a tear falls because I'm trying
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: to save the makeup I can stuff. Don't mind me. Yeah,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I don't film with the intent to injure people. I
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: do not get online with the intent to injure people.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I do get online, and I do get petty sometimes and.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: We tweet it like tweets.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: That are negative. I do, but never I'm not moving
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: in a way. My life is solessed that I have
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: no reason to be walking around with hate or with malice.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I thank God every day for what he gives me,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: the good and the bad.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: If Quad is watching now, is there anything you would
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: like to say to her?
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry if I injured you or anybody in your
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: family that comment I made. We've all made mistakes on
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: this platform and our own mind. That was my mistake.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Listen, I appreciate the two of you really sharing that
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: because this show. Do y'all feel the weight of how
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: popular this season has become? Does it feel different in
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: the past season just based on the fandom, the blogs
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: picking get up, the attention is getting. Is it something
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: to where You're like, I mean, we wanted to be
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: number one, but damn.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Is this half of what it costs to be number one?
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Ship?
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: Child?
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Like they had so many other great seasons and I'm
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: just like, y'all just not catching on that. I'm still
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: in that. I'm like, difference. You definitely feel the difference.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, like even seeing that shave shave on real
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: shape shave. But you know, all of them whatever, I
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: love them all, you know, but it is nice to
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: be recognized.
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: It does come with a lot because me and Eugenie,
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: we could be in a great place and then he'll
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: bring up something and I'm like, well, I don't agree,
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: and I'm like.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: I don't want to do that in my house.
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: I don't want to argue about what the perception or
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: other people's perception is because I'm like, you do know,
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: we know the reality.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: We can't forget the reality. You see what I'm saying.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: We got we even though that's what they see. We
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: got to stay and what we know. You see what
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, that's what they see.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: We gotta stay with what we know. That's big. How
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: do you feel Let's talk about the husbands. Okay, you
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: two have great husbands, great husband.
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: We know that that season for bullying that Greg I
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: not sold cecil, but I.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Did not agree. I did not agree. I just it
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: was I felt like he got a way. She knew
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: exactly what I was talking about. Yes, sir, father reunion
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: cheat and you think I would have cheated? Yes? And
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: then Greg said, I don't know what you would do.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: What's wrong with that?
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: Because hes what Greg should have said it. I didn't
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: know I was capable of cheating. I didn't know Jackie's
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: husband was capable of So I really honestly don't know
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: what you're capable of.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: So for you to make me and I said, mate,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: because now you have you.
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: Being a double team, it's a yes no answer. It's
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: not a yes and no answer.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: It's a flat out I don't know what you're capable of.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: But if you want me.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: To just say no, just because y'all teaming up against me,
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: I just feel like that wasn't fair.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: It wasn't fair for Cecil. He should have stayed out
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: of it. And definitely Jackie's husband.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: Quiet please, because if this man says he doesn't know,
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: it is what it is.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Do you think doctor David has cheated? Don't have an
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I think everyone a point some time that somebody will
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: or will not cheat.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: And everybody that.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: The world would have said, oh, Kathie Lee Gifford said, oh,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: my husband would never cheat. And what happened. Who would have.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Thought Bill Clint would begin Do you know what I'm saying?
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day stuff, I.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Think we all kind of knew that was gonna go down.
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: But understand, yeah, the president, so where you.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Have guess Bill Cosby would be locked up right.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: No, this is the thing and Ciso's defense, and this
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: is where my nostosterone comes into play.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I do have this boy.
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: They tell me otherwise, But I got a couple.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: Wh I watched They're gonna bead for this one when
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: I saw that clip.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be real with you, I did agree with you.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: What you're saying now. I felt the same way initially,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: like I didn't think there was anything wrong with doctor
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: G's answer. I don't know because if somebody asked me now,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: if my African is cheating, I'm gonna say.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: And if he is doing it, keep doing it, because
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: I don't.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Know the healthy relationship, right.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I got the blood work done right.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: I felt that see soul because and again I don't
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: know these men personally on that level. I felt that
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: ciecoul doesn't like for the men to be and I
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: felt like he was trying to dig the situation because
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: he's like, if you don't answer this man right now,
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: yes or no, this is this is gonna go bads
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: on a leaner.
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: But I think could have just said then, hey, he
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: doesn't know.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: It's just that simple.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: And I know it took everything for Eugene to be quite.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Because the reality is, why didn't you like to talk?
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Well has an opinion.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: He has an opinion.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: You sh't have to be an opinion opinion of me,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: let's be clear.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: But he had an opinion.
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: And I believe that Ciso and I don't think.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: That they should have.
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: I don't think that they should have put him in
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: a place where he had to just agree read it's
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: a yes or no if that man and testos from
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: that man said, I don't know, I don't know.
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: No, I listen. I definitely understand you point.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: Like I said, I thought that way initially too when
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: it comes to the husbands, though, your man gets a
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: lot of black on social.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Media from the other cast members. Heavenly had from the
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: other cast members from Heavenly. Okay, you're right, you're right,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: you're right, So that's my mistake.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: From Doctor Heavenly especially and Quad, she's a doctor heaven
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: Quad have said some things about your husband that I
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: said to both.
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: Of them that was wrong.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: I told Quad, I'm calling this man Ugina. Yes, although
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: clever very.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know if she makes them up, but it's clever.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: You think quas reads are rehearsed, Okay, what shee?
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Senor?
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: You think Quad comes in with the with her reads rehearsed.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: You don't think you ain't gonna pops on the top.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Of her head.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Let me, you got three thousands, Mone, you got two thousands.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: But she can't come off the top of her head.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: She can't, So she has.
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: Those asia is great when coming off the top of
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: her head, and you can tell the difference because she
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: didnet gave it some thoughts. It was not something that
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: you kind of heard before, or maybe somebody slipped it
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: in her.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Ear and she has good people to slip her slider
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: mm hmm.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, your man, I love. Does it affect.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: You when people do call him sassy and zesty.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Ugina?
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: You know, he articulated such a good point in terms
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: of like, not all men have to be this toxic
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: masculine man, which I thought for a hitero sexual black
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: man to speak to that is really really touched me,
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Like we're real talk. But as his wife, does that
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: affect you or do you see it affects him at
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: home and you have to like deal with it.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I think one of Eugene's biggest issues back in the
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: day used to be and maybe even still today. He said,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: I hate when people put feminine characteristics on a man
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: just because he does things that some people have said
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: are feminine things like cooking.
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: Or you know, hanging out shopping with your wife. He
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: was like, he really and truly feels like he's a
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: he No not, he really and truly, Eugene.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Is a man.
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: Right when I met Eugene, I knew I was dealing
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: with a man.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I'm a sassy man, not no know nothing. Everything about
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: him was manly. I remember when he first pushed me
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: on the other side of the street, was like, I
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: have to walk on this side of the street. You
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: see what I'm saying. He doesn't bother you. It can't
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: bother you because it bothers me, he asked me. It
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: doesn't about it him, he said.
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: When the public said, when my castmate says it, of
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: course it bothers me.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Because I know my castmates demo.
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: They feel like if they say something once, twice, maybe
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: three times, it's.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Gonna stick and it's going to become this scene.
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: That goes viral. And so I'm a protector, right. I'm
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: a mama Beer.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: Of my sons.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I'm a mama Beer of.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: My husband, and he's a daddy bear for me.
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: You see what I'm saying.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Even when he doesn't agree, we're gonna have our conversation
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: on our off camera whether he agrees or not. But
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: he's still gonna be very respectful. He's still going to
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: be a man.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: He's gonna be and he's right. It doesn't have to
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: be forty nine.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: If he won, it doesn't have to be because he
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: knows what I married is someone if something happens to me,
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: she can carry this household and vice versa.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: And so we we we can, I can.
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: Make decisions for our family. And it doesn't it doesn't
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: emasculate him.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: I I what I don't like is I'm from Detroit.
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: And I'm not blaming it all Detroit, but Detroit women.
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: We are very strong women. Yes, we have a strong back,
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: We're pretty, we're pretty aggressive sometimes in our approach.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: We have a woman on this show is aggressive, but
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: it's a different way, but in a different way.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: But it's in a different way.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Every woman in a Jeni way. When it comes to
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: the South, every woman, when it comes to the child,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: it's got out on whatever we need. She knows I can't.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: I'll talk her.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: But the reality is there is a Southern dynamic.
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: Right even my following base, I have the most followers
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: from Philly, New York first, and Chicago.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: What does that say?
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: Those are all places where and.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Are the least in Atlanta?
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Okay? And the reality is the women are different in
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: those places we speak with authority, we are very We
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: can come across as hard, you know what I'm saying.
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: But I've always told people Eugenie has softened me, really
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: and truly. I was way.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Worse, okay, And I love that about him, that he's
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: able to soften me, able to put me in a
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: place of vulnerability, because we're not that type of women
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: where we want to be vulnerable. We haven't had the
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: luxury of being vulnerable.
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: Most of our families in Detroit are not married. These families,
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: there's broken homes everywhere. All of our parents were working
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: in the the Big Three, as we say to before,
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: the christis of the jail, which means they never really
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: went to college.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: So we're dealing with a fight, and it's always been
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: a fight. And so now I meet this man who
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: knows how to assaulten me, who is loving toward me.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: And they want to say he's.
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: A yugina or he's sassy. It doesn't matter to me
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: what they say.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I just know what I feel and how he treats
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: me and how he treats our household, and that's it.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: How does it feel to be the breadwinner? I've been
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: the Red Winner for a long time.
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: What's a long time.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I can't speak to.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Three years married. We've been married for married, we've been
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: married for years. This year year, sixteen years, this year,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: maybe three or four years.
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: I've been a great winner and I've taken it on
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: the chain with people saying that, you know, I'm this
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: girl who was just gonna put him in the whole.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: He just he ain't gonna add no money when she's what.
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: She's done with him that I would go God for
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: being I'm sorry, I'm not gonna digging where that's tea,
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: But that's what they're saying.
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: That's not what I say, right, But the reality is
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: that's what they've always thoughts.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: But I think that's that's the character. And I'm gonna
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: use the word character.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: That I created, and I'm I'm gonna own that.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: When I look back at past season season one, two three,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: I was talking about money all the time. I was
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: talking about shopping. I'm shopping for a house that we
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: didn't even have yet. I was doing the craziest things
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: because I'm just a fund loving hot This be jovial,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: and then when you look back, you're like, you really
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: didn't talk about saving, you didn't talk about the necessities
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: around the things you were doing.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: You just shopping, You were just spending.
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: You know, all my things was Toya coming in, was
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: shopped at Das with the kids.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: And I was okay with.
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: That back then, but now seasoned that ten years later,
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: I'm not okay with the perception.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: And so I do feel like I'm at a place
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: where I have.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: To recreate and show the world.
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: Who I have always been. But I just never showed
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: them that side of me.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: And I think you owe that to the audience.
• 49:27
  Speaker 8: We go.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: A lot of women are housewives, and one thing.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: That isn't normal is when a woman is a housewife
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: and all of a sudden she becomes the breadwinner and
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: the man still stays that's an ego trip to a man,
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: because a man likes the idea of providing.
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: If that's how it was set.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Up, as I would, weren't you there. We had that
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: conversation we were talking about.
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: It was hard for him because he started feeling like, well,
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: what can I give her?
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: She's already getting it for herself, you know.
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: But then it was a turning point, maybe two years ago,
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: two Christmases.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: Ago, and he got the cutest things made. There were
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: these cartoon characters of us, our whole family, of who
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: we are a af produced. It was adorable.
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: And then he bought me a little week of tennis, you.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Know, to go to improve my game.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh.
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: He looked in and he went from within, I don't
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: need to snail that, I don't need anything else of
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: a name ran right now okay, and he realized I
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: just I just got a little deeper, and I think
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: we're at a good place.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: We're not.
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: I don't count his money. All I asked of Eugenias,
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: have you attack some money? That's the it, because I
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: don't want to do that.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: I don't do you pay the rent, the mortgage, the rent.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: No, I think the and I think all for a minute,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: I was like, he takes care of that, takes care
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: He takes care of you, take care of my cardinal.
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: But then I was like, well, you know, I'll take
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: care of it.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: I paid for my cardinals. I pay, yeah, I think
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: for the things that I want to say.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Then we don't do. Utilities are not a big deal.
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: I pay for my children's tuition, which is about sixty grand.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I pay for all of their clothing, anything that they need.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: I supply.
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: I play for every vacation. And I don't know if
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: he was following, but they we don't. We don't vacation.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: I don't have the whole family, the parents, to London
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: and to Amsterdam and they.
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: Only fly first class. I do not put my kids
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: somewhere else.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: No, I do you say, wondering if she's going to
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: World right, I take care. I take care of my
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: husband the way he would take care of me. Yeah.
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, I buy Eugene for Christmas. I I'll do it
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: myself for Eugene. He even took stuff back and he
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: was like, I don't need this.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, you want to do this, and I
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: just I don't need all this.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: And I even took back something he bought me. I
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: was like, I don't need this.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: So this perception that and I want to get your
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: thoughts on this.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: To doctor Monow, there's this perception that.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: You are looking for an exit plan, that you're going
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: to lead Doctor Eugene. You really want a hood boy
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: right to be your man. The only reason why you're
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: with Doctor Eugene is to stay.
• 52:48
  Speaker 7: On the show.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: There's people who say.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: You're really mad at Quad because Quad divorced Doctor Gen
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: and she's still on the show and you wish you.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Have her life.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: That's good, and they're accusing your chie as you know,
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: I think that in every marriage there's a trying time.
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: And there was a time maybe two three years ago
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: being Eugene just were not communicating well, and it was
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: around the people calling him ugina, you know. And it
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: started before that though. It started with me feeling like
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: he was attacking me with my children on camera and
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: he was like, what do you mean? And maybe I
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: wasn't expressing myself in the right way, but I was
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: feeling like I was being attacked by in so many areas.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: You know. It was like production had always showing me
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: with alcohol, and I was just like, this is not fair.
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: And then I got to come home and I got
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: to deal with them and they're making jokes about you know,
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: how it talk and they never made jus a while
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: I talk before.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: And it was like I was getting hit in so.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Many directions that it was starting to affect me.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: As a person, my own personal self esteem, and I
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: was like, that's.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Kind like Toya.
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: Toya has high sep stin Toya is she knows who
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: she is. I knew who I am in God, I
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: don't know he created and I'm okay with that girl.
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: And when he just it was like I was speaking
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: another language, and it was because he was obviously speaking
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: another language to me, and our communication was dead, right dead,
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: and I had to go back home. I went back
• 54:20
  Speaker 6: to Michigan, and I spent some time with some very
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: old friends of mine that I had been friends with,
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: whether it be my ex who was a really nice
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: person that Eugene knew about met introduced all of that.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: That was the truth I did.
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: I I didn't spend time, but we all sat down, me,
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: you know, and my girls. Well, I was just going
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: quite a bit, and then all of a sudden, I
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: was like, you know what, I'm gonna start.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: To be in a ceilogy, So marijuana state. I was,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I want to do it, you know, legally, And then it.
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: Became it was one of the moments where I just
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: I wasn't even talking to Eugene anymore.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: I was talking to my friends and I was talking
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: to my girlfriends, and it was because they were telling
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: me things like, girl, we know who you are. Why
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden. Are you crying everything? I don't think
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: about this show? Why are you so upset?
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Why is the effect in your marriage? You know who
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: you are. I know who you are.
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: You're a good friend, and to hear it from people
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: that had known you for twenty.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Years it felt better for me, and so I kind
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: of just shut down. And so we did have the
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: conversation of maybe this marriage isn't working. We did sit
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: down with the kids and we're like, it's it's we
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: may not go any further, but it's okay, you and
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: I kid, nothing's going to change in our family dynamic
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: because we didn't want to be unhealthy in front of
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: our kids. Because I was never raised in an environment
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: where I saw my parents argue.
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: Now one time and.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: I know my dad is terrible and you know, but
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: I never saw them argue. And so I was like,
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: when it gets to that place and our kids are
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: at that age where they're taking it all in, something
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: has got to change. And I was like, and I
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: don't want to argue with you.
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: Eugene is the king of slamming doors, I mean.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: And one why I think he locked me outside. I'm
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: going to drink living. I was living I'm going to
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: drink some more. Okay, so I drink something when you should. Yes,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm telling you a thing. He calls back,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: not that long because I said, I'm gonna call the kids.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Have some don't let money in and you don't want that.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: So some things we have to share with clothes in harlows.
• 56:36
  Speaker 10: I know he is not my cards, I know, but.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: I don't fight.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Women across the ball. I should.
• 56:54
  Speaker 10: Because the reality is marriage is great, right, okay, but him,
• 57:00
  Speaker 10: I hit her job. Heavinly's gotta hear the inn and
• 57:05
  Speaker 10: manipulate the conversation.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: But I think the reality we can go down a't
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: on YouTube anymore. You know.
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: I just feel like in every marriage, whether people want
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: to fake it or not, you know what I'm.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Saying, we don't.
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: We we were having our own issues and we came
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: to that place, and I pride ourselves.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: I pribed in Eugene on coming back. You see what
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. We worked hard to come back out of it.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: We we got to a place where we.
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: Were like, hey, going forward, what's some things you need
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: to change? He went, He found him a psychiat No
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: psychiatis a psychologist and this guy, he was amazing black
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: guy married, I mean amazing. With Eugene, I went to
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: my to my pastor's wife. We talked on a regular
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: and we started working on ourselves from with.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: Them, and then we were able to start.
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: Our communication back up. We were happier. Our kids know this,
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: and they were like, one day, Avery.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: Said, why y'all kissing so much?
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: Why else?
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Was I happy?
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: That It hurt me to hear that, because I didn't
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: want them to even be thinking that that's the way
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Mary's life should be. You see what I'm saying, right.
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: So, if we had to go down in the gutter,
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: if we had to go to a place where we
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: just was like, look, this is not healthy for our
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: relationship to continue on and then come back up out
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: of it that God willing, We're good. But I don't
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: want Quad's life a God forbid. I don't ever want
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: to have to say I was divorced and.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Figure it out.
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: You know, I wasn't forgiving, you know, especially when you
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: have children.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: You know, I've always wanted to.
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: Be a supportive wife that showed my sons they should
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: find in a mob.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: You know. I cook for them four times a week.
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: You know, I have quality time with them, quality conversations
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: with them, and we and we travel together as a
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: family and we actually have fun.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: So your great mom.
• 59:14
  Speaker 7: One thing I would say about that you are a
• 59:15
  Speaker 7: great mom.
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: I love I love it, and I like being a
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: good wife to Eugenie, you know.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: But when it got some place where I wasn't a
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: good wife.
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: To him and he felt that way he wasn't a
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: husband of me, we had to have the real conversation.
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: No, that's real.
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: And obviously you know a lot about this, because.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I ever said this publicly.
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: I did not say this to your husband when I
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: spoke with him at Doc Jean. So my show Loving
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: mash Huntsville, I created that around the time season.
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: Five American Medicine was airing.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: It was my favorite season because it was really about
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: the ups and downs with couples and I've never seen
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: that on TV. So mind you, I'm a guy who
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: did all of Atlanta Housewives right, and I'm the one
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: who said we need Peter and Apollo and we need
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: time and I want the perspective of the MiGs. I
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: just felt like irreflective black households and conversation. You know,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: black folks, if you're married, we all.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Friends and we're all gonna talk. So long story short,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: no one knows this. I'll say it for the first
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: time now.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: I was shooting a pilot a Love and Mash hunts
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Bill around the time of the reunion of season five,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: and I was touched by you and Cecil. And the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: best thing about that reunion was the fact that everybody rallied.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: To support the two of you.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: And I said, damn this.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: If I'm able to showcase that on Love and Match
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: Huntsville as I'm shooting this pilot, then baby, I have
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: a home run because I get inspired by everything I'm
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: looking at. And I was inspired by the level of
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: honesty that you and Cecil we're dealing with at the time.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: When I spoke to see So, I remember, I think, listen,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: I don't know him that well yet I think he's
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: the sweetest man in the world. He's so nice and
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: kind and and just he's such a good man. And
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: what I thought was so fascinating that season and at
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: the reunion was he really appeared confused and lost. Right,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: it was right, So I'm not like that.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: So I'm not making some I was.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: Right, but he looked that way right.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Well, we were we.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: Were confused because I wasn't expecting her to say what
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: she said on camera, you know, And and I was,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: I just was.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: I was in all. I knew we were. They were
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: having problems. We all were.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: We were all confiding and each other, and and you
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: and peggybacking off each other. But I didn't know that
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 6: was coming. And so she made it so cut. But
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: you made it so cut and dry.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: At the reunion, you were like, it's over. And then
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: when we get back home, was it really so?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: When he I'm sure you watched it, and and it's
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: interesting because I love the fact that he's like, look,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: I was wrong and I could have done better. And
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: I think the beauty of the show is unless you
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: look at things and say, oh.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's what it was. When you watched the interview,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: he and.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: I did, and he said he was rushing to fix
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: her tires. And my sisters were in the group chat
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: and they said, I would divorce his ass too.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 7: If if my husband was eager.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: To fix I don't care she's yo yo, platonic friend
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: or not. It was the urgency for me was that
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: the moment for you doos the moment you felt like
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: something has.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 7: To change here.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: No, what that thing is. Cecil is like that with
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: all his friends. She just happened to be the first
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: female friend that he made into this super important person.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: But I think the thing is as a doctor and
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: owning my own business as a black woman, we have
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: it so tough already. Sure, I'm strong, I'm loud, I'm aggressive,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: but the fact is, when you have something break down
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: or my car was stuck on ice, you need a
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: man who rescues you. And Cecil has stopped being the
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: rescuer for me. So when I and I would be
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: cool if you say, Okay, he's just in a place
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: in his life where he can't rescue anymore. But to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: see him rescue another woman was like, okay, so he
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: still has it in him.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: It's just not with me, right, and tell.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Me what's actually problem number three? Not problem number one?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Was problem number three. But the you know, when you're
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: filming reality TV, you have to make things as superficial
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: as you possibly can. And like my therapist said, well,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: my therapist said, you don't want to put anything out
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: in the TV universe. Yeah, Because he was like it's
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: permanent once you put it out there. And even coming
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: to Reunion that year, I talked to my therapist the
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: day before while I was in my dressing room at Reunion,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: because you know, I kept saying, he won't say, so,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: I'm stupid and I'm gonna stop.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: My therapist was like, it, no matter.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: What he say, your composure because once you put it
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: out there, your kids are gonna see it, your families
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: are gonna see it, and it's permanent. But we're just
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: He and I are both so stubborn, and he is
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: the coolest guide I hang with to kick it with.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: But as a wife, I need something a little bit
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: different and nurturing and protective, and.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: I need baby.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: It's unfortunate and people don't see that from me. I'm
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: needy and I need to be coddled toy. He gets it. Yeah,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: but people don't see that side of me. But Jackie
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: gets it. People get it. And my marriage had lost that,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: and you know, I was the biggest bitch ever a
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: couple of years leading into that, and that combo is
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: the combo for a divorce. I'm thankful for what Reunion
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: gave us. We would have just moved on we would
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: still be friends and still you know, get together and
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: have a drink. We wouldn't be married, so you will.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: That reunion really brought this marriage back to a place
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: to where leaving the reunion you can start making the
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: necessary steps to rebuild.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: When you it was the first time during the process
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: we have been separated that people were so vocal, and
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: I think people were working on us individually but collectively
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: in the same room. People were so vocal about we
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: were being stubborn. We let ego and pride get in
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: a way, and you have to be honest. I'm a
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: very I'm the captain of Petty and so. But when
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: you call me out, when you call me out, I
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: will sit and think and do some self reflection. I
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: have no problem doing self reflection because I love me.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: I love everything about me. But you know, I know
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: I have things I need to work on. I know
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: I need things that should be changed.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 7: Going to doctor Jackie.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: And Helton Head, did you not know, doctor Samol, I
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: didn't remember.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Jackie and I have been friends for more than twenty
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: years and that year that that.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: Picture surfaced or those pictures surfaced, like I can tell
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: you exactly where I was when somebody came to my
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: office would a cell phone showing me the pictures on
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: social media.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: I can tell you my steps. I left my office,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: went to her office, and normally I would park at
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: the front door, walk through the reception area, parked in
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: the back, call like hey, can y'all let me in,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: and then want to go sit in her office. But
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Hilton Head was not the center or the focus of
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: that situation. Here is a woman who has been so
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: graceful throughout this reality TV thing for the most part,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: and to see this be just out there and embarrassing.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: She got attacked online with people saying you work too much,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: that's why he cheated on you. Like, don't give nobody
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: an excuse for doing wrong when you're wrong, sitting it,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: acknowledge the fact that you're wrong, but it's not somebody
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: else's fault. It was a lot, and you know, just
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: praying for her and hoping for her to keep her
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: marriage and get it back on track. And I told
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: her one time, like, there's all this noise and people
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: people are quick to be Oh, I wouldn't have put
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: up with that. People putting up with shit every day
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: every day? Yeah, you putting up with something in your marriage.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: It's impossible not to be putting up with something. And
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: I told her block, cancel the noise, don't even listen
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: to that. But back to the original question, I did
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: not remember it was hilton Head. I didn't let me
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: say this. The cheating that went with that person, it
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: was in it. It started in Atlanta and went to
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: hilton Head. And I felt like there was too much
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: focus and drama about hilting Head and there was a
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: different way technically that we should have played it versus
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: highlighting the fact that but we rolled with their punches.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: We rolled with Jackie and Curtis's punches. We literally had
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: no intention on bringing up the cheating allegations and this
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: was where it all happened, and.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 6: We weren't going to do any drive by to the barrow.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 6: None of that was gonna happen. Yeah, we genuinely when
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 6: we called her.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: I was like, where are you?
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: We're trying to get on this bus and go, And.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: When we heard her start crying, we were like did
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: she cry? Because it really really We're like, why are you?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Should we we immediately all of us was like should
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: we stop everything?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: Like because that wasn't our intention, you know. And even
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: I even told her, I said, but you.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 6: Just say that me and Eugene would have been or
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 6: that I would have been the one to bring up
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: any negativity around your marriage, just because I didn't agree
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 6: or verbatim with everything that she was saying.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: Back then, I was like, where did that come from?
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: I've never I'll heavenly say is we could have just
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: gone somewhere else. You on a production come from, you
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: have shows. Sh It ain't that easy once you make
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: a decision.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: So that's why I said to her, I said, and
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: Doctor Someone.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: Play with you. She can just be moved like.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: No, I said to her line I said, in Doctor
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: Someone's defense, as production, we it takes weeks to months
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: to clear a trip, and we are the ones who
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: make it happen.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 7: And if something happens last minute, we can't just.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: Say all this money we put off front can be
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: melan void.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: So I did.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: But here's a fact. Here's a fact.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: They are still married, which means they overcame Hilton Head.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: There's a fact, right, And so to have this little
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: dot on the entire us of a that you're just
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: gonna avoid is crazy and unrealistic.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: If you've overcome it like it's Chris, never go Toton
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: and so.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: And so we get an opportunity to show the viewers
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: how you overcome things.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: Yes, which is what I was happy they showed up. Well,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: that's what this shows about. That's why I was happy
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: they showed up. Dude, Are you jealous of Doctor Heavenly
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: and Jackie's friendship?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: Is she jealous of your friendship with jack Is Doctor
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: Heavenly jealous of Simone?
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: Because I think Heavenly and Jackie are close?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 7: Are they closer than y'all too?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: I can't. I can't, I can't speak to you.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: Mean, are are because.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 7: You and Jackie are on from are very close?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, Now Heavenly is closer to Jackie.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: Than I am.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Now Heavenly is closer to Jackie than I am. But
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with Heavenly. And let me
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: say this. In December, we truly truly have our friendship
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: back where it's supposed to be. But I think Heavenly
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: feels like she's in competition. You can be in competition
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: with as much shit as me and jacque w and Walters.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: What do you mean like it doesn't have anything to
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: do heaven a distance. Yeah, I think that this platform,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: the fact that we made it with the friendship intact
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: for as long as we did on this platform.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: I think it's difficult. And think about.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: How often the fans will have you in your feelings
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: about something I said about something I did. I think
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: it's hard.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: So do you think that you I this is my
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 6: genuine opinion. I think that Heavenly puts in the work
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: to build that relationship.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: I think right.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: Now, tell me about ass kisser.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: I don't kiss ass. We're equal. You got on no
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: pedalst We're equal. I don't kiss no ass. And I
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: think Heavenly as a chaser and an ass kisser is
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: my honest opinion.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Heavenly gives her all the.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: Time used to down at the YouTube, and I just
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: give him my honest opinion.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: So she puts him the time.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: And I think that Jackie as.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 6: A mom with her, have not put in as much time,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: which has allowed me.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: Did you say to Quad, I can't go against Toya
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: what I said.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: Quad and I were at CNS Seafood and we were
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: having dinner, and what I told her is this, Toya
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: is not dictating any of my friendships. However, I'm not
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: gonna do anything that jeopardizes my friendship with Toya, and
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: so me hanging out with Quad being friends with Quad.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: She knows when I reached out to her after the incident.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: I told Toya, I'm reaching out to her. It's doesn't care.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: About my friendships with any of these ladies because it's
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: not impacting my friendship with her. And one of the
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: things that happened in our friendship early on is she
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: was like, you sit there, You're not saying any thing.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: You don't have my back. And I made a decision
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: because Jackie's feeling is, well, you're always defending Toya. I
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: made a decision that anytime it's two against one and
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: my friend is involved, you're gonna hear my mouth. So
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: if Quad and Toya are having a disagreement, as long
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: as Heavenly keeps quiet, I'm quiet. Heavenly jumps in and
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: I jump in because they were tag teaming, and it's
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: okay the tag team. I'm playing double dutch. I'm jumping in.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: But I like the fact that, even like earlier, I
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: want to clarify something. I love the fact that she
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: was like, well, don't drink some wine. Glass wine.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna have some water because sometimes I do give
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 6: too much and and I would like to give bullet points,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: you know. But I do feel like at the end
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 6: of the day, I know where some of these things
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 6: have came from. You know, the fact that I was
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 6: willing to do this business with people that I have
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 6: dated in the past, and that being a male that
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 6: they ran with that.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, she people have dated in the past.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: I've dated people as if you had dated some females too.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: But we're talking about a male right, So.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: About part of the LGBT coming, I'm.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Like, I would like the world.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: I want to set the record ration there has there's been.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 6: I don't have any friendships that I've ended on a
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: tragic note unless you have done something to me personally.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Is there outside of that? My excess, my my male friends,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: female friends, we all love each other from twenty five
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: thirty years plus all of my friends, and so if
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: they have a business endeavor going on, I'm like, what's up,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: what's going on? I'm talking to my husband about it,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: and I think, but I think that's the difference and
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: me and you, Jane's relationship and so many other relationships.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: I'm saying, hey, honey, what do you think about this?
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: And he's like, well, I don't really like you know
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: your ex around.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: I'm like, why have I ever.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Gave you a reason? He's like, oh, I was like,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: so can we.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: At least see if it's gonna make us any money?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: You know, what do you think? You know?
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 6: I just wanted to I think for me at that time,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: I just wanted to be out in the box. I
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: felt like I had been boxed in on the show
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 6: as this person who who just was spending his money
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: and we knew it to be different, and I was like,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 6: I gotta figure out was talking to some other business
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: on something that's genuine And.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: He's like, well I don't. I don't even know about
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: that one.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 6: So but you know, of course that ended because it
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: wasn't a great business endeavor, and then I moved on.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 6: But the reality is I my people that I've been
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 6: friends with for twenty five thirty years, they built me
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 6: back up.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: They was like, hey, girl, I know you, you know
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: you you're a good friend. Don't let these people tell
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: you're not.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: Because there was a.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 6: Time when this group of ladies were telling me that
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: I was a good friend.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: I'll never forget it.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: En quas townhouse.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: Town as long as you don't pay.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: And all these ladies, okay, even.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 6: My best scene, even my best Hey, you're deserting us.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: You have new friends, and you're not really giving out
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: our time. And I'm like, well, y'all killing me, y'all
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: break'll the other people was fun at the time, and
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: they were building me back up.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: And evencause when I went out.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm done. I don't want to do
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: Mary's mess. I was so done and and I needed that,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: and so I don't.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: I don't feel bad for anything.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 7: Why are you able to forgive Anila? Though?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: Or saying the same thing? Did you hear what I say?
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: A producer king, we all have made mistakes on this.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 11: Ana's was a yobu too, wasn't at okay?
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 6: And let me tell you why. Production told me they
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: said she won't stab you in the back. They said,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: you ringing this girl on, that's your bestie.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: She's gonna stab you in the back.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: I'm not gonna say who said it, you know, And
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: I was like, no, not Anila, her family. And so
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: when it happened, I was genuinely hurt like then Eugenie
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 6: got genuinely hurt, because if you see his wife hurt,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 6: he hurts, right.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: So at that point I was like, anything, they could
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: have done anything.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: I was with Anila yesterday and I was like, and
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 6: we were driving in the black card laughing, ha ha ha,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: and I and I said, you remember when I pushed
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 6: you on camera?
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: Do you remember at this at your skating party? And
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: we were all taking a picture and I pushed and
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: I said, I was playing. I said, but the qual
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: and heavenly tried to say that I was about to
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: fight you. She said they did, and they continued to
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: do that to her, and I recognized, you know what,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: Aniela is a victim. She really is. She's a victim
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: of the same thing that I was a victim of.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 6: Early on, when you know, you believe everything, you want
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 6: to believe everybody like you.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: You want to believe that everybody.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: Just wants to be your friend.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: But really they're planning seeds, right, and they're building. At
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: the time was their side of the couch, and so
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 6: they was trying to get in that because they didn't
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 6: understand that.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: The couch was heavy literally and the figure.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 11: You know, but to answer your question. It was easy.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 6: It was easy for me to forgive Aneila because I have.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: Always been a forgiving.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: Person on the show. I hate that they're drawing this
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: garritage that I would hate somebody, because I don't hate,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: not a soul in the world. We never see me forget.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, you forgave Mariah right, I forgave Aldra.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 6: I cried with Aldra right. I cleared that up when
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: I could have not. I could have went further, even behind.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: The scenes of like this girl tried to attack me
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: on camera, but instead I was like, I've been there
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: when you just you, you just lose yourself, you know.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: And so I've always been a forgiving person, so sh
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: I felt like someone hurt me when we were yelling
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: at each other, not hearing each other.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 6: We did, but I have to get to a place
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 6: where and I took the time so that.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: I can forgive. And normally when I forgive, I forget,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: I forget. I'm like, and I I really do move
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: past this. I really do.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: Aniela genuinely.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: Came to me to my doorstep and she was like
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: almost in tears, like I just want my friend back,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: and I said, you want your job back I did,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: and she said, I do, and I can appreciate that.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: I can appreciate that. And I said, I said, I'm
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: falling forward if it brings ratings. I said, but what
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do is pretend to be your friend
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: if you're not a genuine friend to me. And she said,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: let me prove it.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: I'm She was like, I'm sorry.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 6: She was so honest about everything she had did and
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 6: I was like, okay, we'll see going forward.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: So one last question, Oh boy, do you guys miss
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: Mariah being Ona Shell?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: I think Mariah makes amazing TV. Yeah, I do, but
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: I don't, like we said earlier, we don't have any
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: control over that, you know. I yeah, and I don't
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: have a hammer and I have veils. Let me say that,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: I fall she makes amazing TV. And she got there's
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: so many scenes that Mariah has done that I will
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: never forget that. I chuckle to my thought. And I
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: was just like, she was amazing on camera and she
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: was being her authentic healf to be honest with you,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: that was who she was. And didn't like to see
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: her back. I would love to see her back.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 8: I think heavily and her have some mending.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 7: I watch at the end of the day, Ham they
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 7: need somebody to play with.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I felt like and baby, they used to
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: play I would agree with you, but there I take
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: one exception to the comment. Is playing under the mud
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: now and if she had stayed her lighter, lightheart itself
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: like she was season two, season three starting to get
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: treacherous in four, we could play she goes way too far.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: And so because of that play band, I don't even
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: want to be affiliated with the show where you got
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: to play that hard boom. Yeah I got. I got
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: six more years in my industry, applying every other year
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: for hospital privileges, applying every year to renew my mouthpractice.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. I never wanted to
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: sign up. I'm I'm cool with having a little spae match.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: We don't agree. You you do some reason on your
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: green screen. I do some reens on I can screen.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: You can even say your mama. But it's there is
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: some dragging that is so bad. I don't want to
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: be a part of it. And so if you're gonna
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: get somebody to play with, heavenly I need to be
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: released because I don't. I don't want to be on
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: a show where it has to be that bad and
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: that negative and that nasty.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: If that's all we have to give.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: If I can't show you a scene with my sons
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: buying them some property, I gotta go somewhere else and
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: just go back to doing pap smears. And I'm so
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: happy doing pap smears and delivering babies. I could say.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: It has been a great ride.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: But if it is today, mentally, I'm okay with that
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: because it's so far we can't go.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: I just I want to speak on behalf of the
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: viewers because I am the president of the Maritime Medicine
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: Fan Club.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, come out, I can have No.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: We don't want to see that either, And that's why
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: when I was saying about being triggered watching that episode,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: it wasn't just about her.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: It's about all of y'all, like all of my girls.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 7: Going out like that, because I'm like, we don't. We
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 7: don't do that, Like how do we go out?
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: No, this is what I would like for the show
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: to be.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: Listen, my favorite season will always be season five, and
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Tell you why.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: Everybody have personal story going on, and it was minimal
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: female conflict, you know, what I'm saying, it wasn't you
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: used to have a.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: Little bit at.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: A little bit like you know, but but the but
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: the a story, what was happening in the household and
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: navigation through the marriages and the word. And look, that's
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: why I said Sweet Tea brought up in great this
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: season because it was nice to see a different perspective.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: So going forward, you're going to hold Heavenly accountable for
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: having a story personal story.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: Well, this is what she has said, and I think
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: this is the reason why she gets away with it.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: And again I'm not the producer of the show, because
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: you know, she is saying you will never get her
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: marriage on the show, that.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: She'll marriage very we have very limited family.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she said, she said, I will give you everything
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: else except that I expect that. She she I would
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: be messy, I'll call people out on a bullshit.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: But that's but that's her entertained, that's her making us
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: her story. No, I know she but you do have
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: you wondering exactly what goes on in that house in
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: her marriage. I want to say.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 7: That old and are gone. No, I want to see that.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: I want to go in the d R. You want
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: are they are they. I don't know because we're.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: Talking about I haven't. I'm talking about anybody but heaven Okay,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: did y'all switch to what y'all talking about?
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: You said that's her best. I'm just messing with you
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: and definitely messing with him. And she's a little bit
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: So the cast from next season would be the d R.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: We want to see curtesies retreat and resort.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: I agree. I would have been an investor. I think
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: we all would have. We all are looking for propery
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: brou I'm not but not in the D. So y'all
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: have property the d R. Now, I love d R.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: I have amazing to have, beautiful water, beautiful people. People
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: think I'm from the DR. I love the beautiful women.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: I have no beaut Bahamas beautiful, yes, beautiful resources.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 7: It's a beautiful town.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: We went to Mexico.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: Yes, so you're voting for us to go to uh DR.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: So my my, my wish for next season is this.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: I want the collective to get back together. I want
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: you ladies to find a way to all, you know,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: be one cohesive units. I would love to see what
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: happens with Sweet Tea and Heavenly.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: I would love to see doctor Alicia.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: And doctor Kima. I love his point of view because
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: it's different.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: You don't necessarily agree, but it's different.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: I don't agree with it, but he stands on business
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: and I appreciate when somebody's like, this is unpopular, but
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: And you think we're gonna see something real with doctor
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: Lisha and doctor Kima.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm hopeful based on how she got with Heavenly
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: on the I G Live because.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: I told him. I said she helped her own and
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: I was proud of her.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: I said she unmuted the zoom call and you know
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: said something. I said, she's a little you know there's
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: something up there.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: Because baby, I don't think she's gonna get read. I
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: don't think she would show that.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 6: But she had all season to say how she built
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 6: about him.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: She never did it. Her attacks were only at me
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: all season because we know you'll hit a bit. Said
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: so much.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: He didn't give her anything.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: I know, because I said, that means you woke up
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: the show. We don't get somebody nothing. I know how
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: this works, but look great tat me if it's genuine,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: if you have a genuine concern I'll give it to you.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: I'll give you what you want. Okay, so I'll call
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: all drop all. The thing is, I have no concerns
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: with me.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm teazing, I'm teazing. But no great season, great season.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: Congratulations on the ratings and this climate. To have a
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: show beall for ten years and to have a double
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: digit increase in ratings where you're beating other shows for
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: the first time in history. As a testament to you, ladies,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: it really is, continue to thrive, continue to just figure
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: shit out in a very funny, respectful, shady way.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 7: Okay, I love you girls. Thank you, doctor Samosavid the thanks.
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