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Brewsers #351- Hilarie Rose · Brewsers

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Bruisers podcast about be Your Coffee, Booze and Bruisers.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your historian, John, and today we talked to Hilary Rose.
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  Speaker 1: We talk about her journey into MMA, being a teacher,
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  Speaker 1: and so much more. Hillary is doing absolutely amazing things
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to the world of MMA, and you
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  Speaker 1: definitely want to make sure you keep your eyes on her,
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  Speaker 1: so while you do that, make sure to listen to
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  Speaker 1: her story. Now here is Hillary Rose. I would like
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  Speaker 1: to welcome my show, Hillary Rose. How are you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 3: I am great? How are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing well? So for those listening, kind of paying
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  Speaker 1: us a word picture where you at, what's going on
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  Speaker 1: around you?
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  Speaker 4: I am at home, just hanging out as of right now.
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  Speaker 4: I head into the gym soon. So I am a
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  Speaker 4: full time martial arts instructor, so I teach muy Thai mma.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a yoga instructor, so I teach where I train.
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  Speaker 4: So I head in around like three thirty three forty
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  Speaker 4: five to teach some classes.
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  Speaker 3: Tonight and then yeah, I'll be there till about like
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  Speaker 3: a thirty Nice.
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  Speaker 1: That's not a bad gig.
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  Speaker 3: Then, no, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's go along back in time. What is your
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  Speaker 1: earliest memory of martial arts.
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  Speaker 4: My earliest memories I started when I was fourteen and
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  Speaker 4: I started taking classes at the gym that I teach
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  Speaker 4: at now and that I train at with my mom.
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  Speaker 4: So my mom and I went into classes together. I
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  Speaker 4: always was very athletic and grew up playing sports, but
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  Speaker 4: in high school I didn't really love like the team
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  Speaker 4: aspect and like going to school all day and then
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  Speaker 4: having to like stay in extra three hours after school.
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  Speaker 4: And then I was at like a bokaytional school, so
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  Speaker 4: then I had like an hour ride home, and it
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  Speaker 4: just I didn't love it and wasn't like thriving.
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  Speaker 3: So I like took some time off of sports.
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  Speaker 4: It was kind of like, you know, in my attitude
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  Speaker 4: a fourteen year old age, and my mom was like,
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  Speaker 4: we got to get you back into something, and I
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  Speaker 4: really wanted to box.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: So my mom found the gym that I'm at now,
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  Speaker 4: and that's when I started muay Thai. So I took
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  Speaker 4: classes there for a while, and then my mom was
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  Speaker 4: a single mother, like I'm my dad's in my life,
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  Speaker 4: but she couldn't afford to pay for my memberships.
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  Speaker 3: So the owner of the gym, my head coach.
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  Speaker 4: He allowed me to like work off my hours so
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  Speaker 4: that I could train. So I would like work there,
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  Speaker 4: check people in, like make protein shakes and things like that,
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  Speaker 4: and then yeah, it all just kind of lingered into
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  Speaker 4: what it is now.
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  Speaker 3: And now I teach there.
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  Speaker 4: I've been training there for eighteen years, so for a
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  Speaker 4: many long time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, very long time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I had read that what you just said
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  Speaker 1: about you know, you kind of got out of the
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  Speaker 1: you got bored a little bit with the high school
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  Speaker 1: athletics and everything. Yeah, what what sports were you playing
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  Speaker 1: growing up before that?
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  Speaker 4: Played soccer, softball, basketball. I was a cheerleader for a
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  Speaker 4: little bit. I did all the sports. I was on
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  Speaker 4: travel soccer teams like my whole life, like from when
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  Speaker 4: I was like seven to thirteen, like right before I
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  Speaker 4: went into high school. So it was on like you know,
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  Speaker 4: town soccer and then travel soccer, and I played that
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  Speaker 4: every every season and then I stopped. I was invited
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  Speaker 4: when I was young. I hold this to my mother,
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  Speaker 4: like her gut. I was invited to go to like
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  Speaker 4: a kids sporting soccer school for like kids that excelled
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  Speaker 4: in soccer. And my mother wouldn't let me go. And
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  Speaker 4: then after that I quit soccer like playing and down
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  Speaker 4: never played it, never played again in my life. So
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  Speaker 4: after that I was like disappointed. So then I kind
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  Speaker 4: of like stopped and then I played softball and like
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  Speaker 4: cheerleaded a little bit, which I wasn't like a good cheerleader,
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  Speaker 4: but it.
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  Speaker 3: Was just like something to do.
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  Speaker 4: And my my older sister was a cheerleader and I
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  Speaker 4: wanted to do everything she did, so so then I
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  Speaker 4: stopped playing soccer and then inevitably ended up where I'm
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  Speaker 4: at now.
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  Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I still hold it Like She's like, you'll stay
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  Speaker 4: it at my grave and I'm like, yeah, probably.
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  Speaker 1: You need to work. You need to work the eulogy
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  Speaker 1: out now, so you somehow slip that in there.
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  Speaker 4: Seriously, Oh, I'm sure I will.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if if that didn't happen, you wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: end up where you are now, So who knows even
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  Speaker 1: where you were?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, everything worked out in my favor, and I ended
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  Speaker 4: up exactly where I needed to be. I think about
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  Speaker 4: that all the time, like, oh, what if I like
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  Speaker 4: did high school sports and never started training and never
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  Speaker 4: really got engulfed into this lifestyle that I'm in and
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  Speaker 4: like surrounded by people who were doing it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think about it often.
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  Speaker 4: Especially now that I'm like a little older and I
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  Speaker 4: know that I only have like a few really good
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  Speaker 4: years left. I'm not like at the beginning of my career.
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  Speaker 4: I'm more towards like the end, so I think, like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: what am I gonna do like when I'm done, Like
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  Speaker 4: obviously I'll coach, but like, it's weird that it's closer
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  Speaker 4: to the ends than like in the beginning. So I
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  Speaker 4: think about it constantly.
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  Speaker 1: So you've never played a second of soccer, even for
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  Speaker 1: fun after the fact, Okay, no, do you keep up
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  Speaker 1: with soccer? Is that something you still?
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  Speaker 3: You're like, I keep up with it at all.
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  Speaker 4: I think occasionally I'll watch, like when the World Cup
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  Speaker 4: and stuff is on. Occasionally I'll mix it up and
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  Speaker 4: I'll watch.
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  Speaker 3: But no, I don't, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: I'm always curious when stuff when people just like drop
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  Speaker 1: it cold turkey like that, It's like, do you kind
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  Speaker 1: of keep up with it or is it just something
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  Speaker 1: You're like, Nope, there's no interest whatsoever.
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  Speaker 3: I just like kicks that right out of my life.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, see you later.
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  Speaker 4: But it definitely benefited me soccer, like when it came
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  Speaker 4: to footwork and like, oh, for sure, transitioning all that
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  Speaker 4: into like martial arts, Like I was able to pick
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  Speaker 4: up like footwork and movement and angles really really well,
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  Speaker 4: I think because I was good at that playing soccer,
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  Speaker 4: so it all worked out well.
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  Speaker 1: And then the cheerleading also controlling of your body because
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  Speaker 1: you know you, yeah, there's so many different motions and
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  Speaker 1: moves you have to do, and then if you could
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  Speaker 1: actually know how your body works already as opposed to
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  Speaker 1: then having to learn later about how to do it,
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  Speaker 1: like you just have steps up on so many other people.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I was a relatively good cheerleader. I just
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  Speaker 4: didn't like all the like faces and like it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: for me.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't do the faces, and they were like, you
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  Speaker 3: don't like be more. I'm like, I just can't. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, it's not in me right.
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  Speaker 1: Because you have to be an athlete and then also
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  Speaker 1: an actor.
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  Speaker 3: At the same time for sure, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: But it definitely helped with like memory, like you have
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  Speaker 4: to remember all these dances and these things.
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  Speaker 3: So you know that it helped. I can't say it
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  Speaker 3: did it.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. Well, so how did you end up at
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  Speaker 1: a muay Thai gym considering you wanted to do boxing?
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  Speaker 1: You know, you live, so you're in the Boston area, right.
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  Speaker 4: I'm outside of Boston, so I'm about forty minutes outside
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  Speaker 4: of Boston, so I'm not like we weren't close to
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  Speaker 4: any boxing gyms. And I think now that like martial
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  Speaker 4: arts like other than like karate and taekwondo and all
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  Speaker 4: those things, Like I never did any of that growing up.
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  Speaker 4: I had no interest in like karate or taekwondo, but
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  Speaker 4: there was no boxing gyms near where I lived. So
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  Speaker 4: I grew up in a town, Norfolk, which is kind
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  Speaker 4: of like near Jillette Stadium, and the only boxing type
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  Speaker 4: gym was muy Thai.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: So we went there and like it was like cardio
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  Speaker 4: kickboxing class that I took and I like loved doing it.
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  Speaker 4: And then you know, one of my head coaches now
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  Speaker 4: was like, oh, you're actually like pretty good at this
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  Speaker 4: and we would do like privates and then I started
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  Speaker 4: jiu jitsu like five years later when I was like nineteen.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't do jiu jitsu when I first started because
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  Speaker 4: I was kind of like, oh God, like like I
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  Speaker 4: had no interest, and then I started jiu jitsu and
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  Speaker 4: I picked it up really really fast.
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  Speaker 3: I like fell in love with it and was obsessed.
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  Speaker 4: Which I'm I'm disappointed because then I probably would have
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  Speaker 4: wrestled in high school. Like if I had done jiu jitsu,
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  Speaker 4: I probably would have wrestled in high school. But I
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  Speaker 4: had like no interest at the time. But yeah, there
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  Speaker 4: was no boxing gyms and like now where I live,
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  Speaker 4: there's definitely more boxing just type gyms, uh, instead of
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  Speaker 4: like MMA or moay tire jiu jitsu.
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  Speaker 1: What was it? What was it like hitting the pads
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  Speaker 1: for the first time?
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  Speaker 4: It was awesome? I remember thinking again I was athletic
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  Speaker 4: growing up. I always like thrived in sports and it
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  Speaker 4: being so tiring like that, I was like, why is
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  Speaker 4: this so like exhausting? But the endorphins that I built
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  Speaker 4: in my body because I never really got in like
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  Speaker 4: fights or anything. I got in a few fights like
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  Speaker 4: after I started training. But yeah, it was definitely something
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  Speaker 4: new and I loved it and I picked it up
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  Speaker 4: really fast, which I think motivated me to want to
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  Speaker 4: stick with it more. And I would, you know, go
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  Speaker 4: twice a week and then that turn into four times
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  Speaker 4: a week and then into like almost every single day.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was super fun and even now I still love
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  Speaker 4: like hitting the pads. It's it's like my favorite part
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  Speaker 4: of training.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah it was. It was definitely cool.
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  Speaker 4: And I love holding pads for people too, because you
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  Speaker 4: see like people who have done it her are doing
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  Speaker 4: it for the first time, like they're like, oh, this
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  Speaker 4: is like really great and it's like a different way
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  Speaker 4: to burn energy and get my heart rate up, but also.
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  Speaker 3: Like have fun.
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  Speaker 1: Right, how long does your mom stick with it as opposed.
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  Speaker 3: To you, Oh, probably like a month. Yeah, not long.
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  Speaker 3: She was just trying to get me in the door.
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  Speaker 4: So I think when she got me in the door
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  Speaker 4: and I was excited to be doing something and not
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  Speaker 4: just like hanging on the couch all day and wanting
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  Speaker 4: to like go hang out with my friends, she was
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  Speaker 4: just happy that I was, you know, because she knew
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  Speaker 4: that I like love sports and that I was athletic
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  Speaker 4: and I needed some sort of outlet. So I think
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  Speaker 4: she was just trying to give me that outlet to
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  Speaker 4: get me, you know, back motivated to doing something. You know,
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  Speaker 4: when you're fourteen, you're like your emotions are all over
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  Speaker 4: the place. Yeah, you're in high school, You're dealing with people.
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  Speaker 4: So I think she was just happy to get me
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  Speaker 4: out of the house and like again motivated to just
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  Speaker 4: want to show up and do something.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that is a crazy thing about I mean just
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  Speaker 1: growing up in general, Like, yeah, that whole puberty age
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  Speaker 1: where all the endorphins and all the weird drugs in
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  Speaker 1: your system that you don't know what's going on, your
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  Speaker 1: body's doing all kinds of weird things. You're getting all
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  Speaker 1: over the place. All of a sudden, you're you're actually
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  Speaker 1: attracted to either the same sex or the opposite sex.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, this wasn't here before, Like they were
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  Speaker 1: just friends.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like full of attitude, like who isn't
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  Speaker 4: like fourteen fifteen, And my mom was like, all right,
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  Speaker 4: we get to we need some sort of And it's
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  Speaker 4: definitely like doing martial arts, like calmed me down for sure,
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  Speaker 4: Like the way I would like burn energy and be
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  Speaker 4: exhausted and like not be so short fused like I was.
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  Speaker 4: The way it like elevated and kept me in line
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  Speaker 4: with my emotions, like was very very good. So I
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  Speaker 4: like recommend it to anybody who has like a teenager.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I always think yeah, without a doubt. I
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  Speaker 1: always say either kid or yeah, teenager, get some kind
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  Speaker 1: of martial art or some kind of physical thing that
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  Speaker 1: they can do rarely because it's your first off. You're
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  Speaker 1: learning discipline, which we all need a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: in our data light data. And then like you said,
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  Speaker 1: you're getting all these all the energy out and so yes,
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  Speaker 1: you do feel more accomplished, or you do feel a
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  Speaker 1: little more drained because your body's exerting actually things as
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  Speaker 1: opposed to sitting down, you know, two screen watching at
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  Speaker 1: all times.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so, I mean, so you mentioned earlier about how
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  Speaker 1: you wanted to do everything your sister did. Did your
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  Speaker 1: sister end up trying to want to actually get into
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  Speaker 1: Muay Thai or boxing or anything.
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  Speaker 4: No, she would come in and like take classes here
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  Speaker 4: and there with me. She was very damn her cheerleader,
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  Speaker 4: like she cheerleaded at the Pro Bowl. She was on
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  Speaker 4: fire in high school. Like, so she did gymnastics her
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  Speaker 4: whole life. But she was very athletic. Like I'm a
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  Speaker 4: very competitive person, but my sister is way more competitive
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  Speaker 4: than me. Like anytime you're on her team, if you're losing,
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  Speaker 4: she's gonna yell at you. It's gonna be a whole thing.
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  Speaker 4: But like, she's competitive in a good way. She likes
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  Speaker 4: to win, and of course I like to win. So
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  Speaker 4: we always team up, so we're always like a solid
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  Speaker 4: team together. But I always say that she's way more
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  Speaker 4: competitive than me. But she thrived in like dancing and
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  Speaker 4: cheerleading and gymnastics.
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  Speaker 3: She was very, very good at all of that.
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  Speaker 4: But she would pop in and take classes like I
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  Speaker 4: was doing, like an all women's jiu jitsu like seminar
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  Speaker 4: type like workshop over a few weeks, like a few
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  Speaker 4: years ago, and her and my mom came and they
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  Speaker 4: like took the jiu jitsu class together, and like would
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  Speaker 4: come for a few weeks. Uh so, but no, what
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  Speaker 4: like wasn't for her, But she loves watching it. She
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  Speaker 4: I mean she watching me. She like loves watching it.
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  Speaker 4: She wouldn't watch it like if it was on TV. Right,
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  Speaker 4: she'll don't support me, and she'll you know, she's always
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  Speaker 4: there at every fight. She wasn't in my last fight.
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  Speaker 4: She's about to have a baby, like any second now,
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  Speaker 4: so she wasn't able to go to.
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  Speaker 3: My last fight.
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  Speaker 1: But that's Okay, yeah, you'll let this one pass.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll let it pass. I'll let it pass.
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  Speaker 1: Well, how long did it go until you actually did
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  Speaker 1: decide to take your first fight? Was it at first?
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  Speaker 1: Did you take a muay tipe fight first or an
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  Speaker 1: MMA fight first?
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  Speaker 4: I took a muaytie fight, so I did like a smoker,
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  Speaker 4: which is like you know, like unsanctioned like event at
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  Speaker 4: a gym. I did two of those when I was sixteen.
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  Speaker 4: So I had two like smoker fights when I was sixteen.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't win either one. I like shot for takedowns
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  Speaker 4: and didn't know like a lick of jiu jitsu, but
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  Speaker 4: I was like stuck in the clinch and like I
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  Speaker 4: was a very good striker always. It's like what I
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  Speaker 4: excel at the most is striking. But yeah, no, I
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  Speaker 4: never won one. And then once I started doing jiu jitsu,
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  Speaker 4: I competed and I was just like running through people,
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  Speaker 4: like not being confident or whatever, Like I was running
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  Speaker 4: through people like I'd grapple against people who are way
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  Speaker 4: more skilled than me or more experienced, and I would
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  Speaker 4: just I would win constantly. So then I started merging
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  Speaker 4: them together with my coaches, and then I can't even
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  Speaker 4: remember what year I had my first MMA fights. I
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  Speaker 4: feel a little like over ten years ago and I
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  Speaker 4: had my first MMA fight and I won by head
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  Speaker 4: kick knockouts.
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  Speaker 3: So the girl knocked out cold, like seized.
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  Speaker 4: It was scary, but it was like the most thrilling
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  Speaker 4: thing that I ever experienced in my life.
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  Speaker 3: And then I knew from like that moment.
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  Speaker 4: On, I was like, oh, I'm this is this is
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  Speaker 4: what I'm going to do.
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  Speaker 3: Like I love this.
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean, what an amazing way to debut. But again, also,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, very scary, so yeah, very scary.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah, I mean you don't anticipate, like your
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  Speaker 4: first fight to go that way. I'm just thinking, like
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  Speaker 4: I need to get in there and hope my body
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  Speaker 4: does what it needs to do and I come out uninjured.
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  Speaker 4: And uh yeah no it was yep, a nice one
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  Speaker 4: two head kick and that she went right in and.
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  Speaker 3: That was that.
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  Speaker 1: Well when did so when you started training more obviously
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  Speaker 1: and then competing with MMA, what how much more did
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  Speaker 1: your training change? Because I mean, obviously you were focused
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  Speaker 1: so much on the muay Thai and then so much
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  Speaker 1: on jiu jitsu. How did your training then? Obviously you
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  Speaker 1: have to add wrestling and all this other stuff, and
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  Speaker 1: so how was it? How did how'd you kind of
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  Speaker 1: break that up?
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  Speaker 4: So there's obviously classes that I would take at the gym,
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  Speaker 4: whether it was like jiu jitsu class or you know,
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  Speaker 4: pads class, those types of things, and then you have
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: to be like invited to the team practice training. So
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: once I was like invited to go train, I went.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: And at that point there like my gym is full
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: of girls. Now there's like five of us to fight,
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: whether it's Muay Thai or MMA, there's about five or
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: so of us. But I had no women to train with,
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: so I was mixing it up with all the guys.
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: There was a few fighters who fought at like one
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: twenty five, one thirty five, so I was moving around a.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: Lot with them.
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: So I was, you know, never really winning in the
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: gym ever, but it definitely like built me to like
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: my confidence and stuff now because now with all the girls,
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, you guys have me, and then there's
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: these other girls who fight pro so like I never
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: had the guidance of a girl.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: I was always just getting beat up by the guys.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: But I think it built character in me and like
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: now when I see how like the team's training, I
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: was like, man, I used to just get beat up
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: all the time, and now it's a little different.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: But it's good. We beat each other up the right
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: way as females, so it's it worked out.
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: But the more I like showed up and was able
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: to go to those trainings, the better I got. And
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: then you know, fights started coming up and my coaches
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: were like, would you like to fight?
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: And I would fight.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: And then as an amateur, I traveled a lot for fights.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: There wasn't a lot of women in my area, like
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: in New England, so I was going to Philly or
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: New York kind of all over the place because there
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: wasn't really any women to fight. And then I had
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: like a few local fights and like you know, I
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: went to Maine and everywhere, so I think it only
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: really had two or three fights as like a local
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: everywhere else. We kind of had to travel because we
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: just didn't have girls to fight. So when the opportunity came,
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: we just kind of rolled with it and took every
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: fight we could get.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna ask, what is the scene like
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: in Massachusetts? Obviously now it's gonna be completely different than
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: when you're coming up. But like you said, you were
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: just training with a bunch of guys and you didn't
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: really have any other women to train with. And now
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: that we're seeing so much of the growth when it
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: comes to MMA, women's MMA, we have a whole you know,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: company based around it, which I think is fantastic and
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: amazing and obviously some of the on this, specially in
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: the UFC cards, most of the women's fights are better
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: than the men's fights.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: So I say this all the time to my boyfriend.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: I'm like the women's fights because I feel like women
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: know they need to like still create this platform for
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: themselves and like show up and show out, and you know,
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: I feel like every time they get in the cage
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: they want to do that.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: They never really have like a boring fight.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Occasionally, you know, you run into a fight where a
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: girl's on her back and she can't get up, but
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: that it doesn't happen often. They're usually there to like
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: stand their ground and you know throw and But yeah,
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: when I first started fighting, there was really no women
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: at all. There was a few girls, like this chick
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: eron Lamont. She was around, and like Sarah Klick, there
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: was really only like three of us, I'd say.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: And then, which is funny, we never really fought each other.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: But yeah, and then like weight classes, like not a
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: lot of women in way classes, so we were all
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: fighting different way classes things like that, So we always
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: it was always.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Traveling, which I didn't mind.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: And of course some promotions like Cage Titans, which I
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: still fight for now, they would bring like a girl
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: in from you know, Philadelphia or New York or somewhere
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: that was relatively nearby as an amateur, but yeah, no,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: there was really it was tough to get fights and
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: I always had to travel. But I think it was
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: good to travel because once I became a pro and
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: had to travel for pro fights, it just kind of
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: made it easier because I.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Was used to it.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: How does traveling work for you? Because we see, like,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: you know, the the different vlogs that people have or
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: the embeddeds or whatever, and yeah, they always show up,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: but then you don't really think about afterwards, like all right,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: how are they getting their meals? How are they really
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: going to get all their liquids and a workout in?
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they could find a local gym, But like,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: what was traveling like for you. When it comes to.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Fighting, traveling was usually okay.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I always would like to leave a day early.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: So usually if you have like a weigh in on
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: a Friday, they'd fly you out Wednesday, or like if
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: you're weighing on a Thursday and you're fighting Friday, I'd
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: always try to ask them to send me a day early,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: and I would like cover the one hotel night because
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: I like when you fly sometimes you bloat and you
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: like hold on to a lot more water attention. So
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: I always liked to get there a day early, and
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: they were usually pretty chill with that. They would let
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: me come a day early. But it was always easy.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: They take care of you. Most promotions you fight for
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: are gonna give you some sort of like money while
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: you're there. So they'll give you like two hundred three
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: hundred bucks so that you can get food, you can
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: you know, drive to where you need to go if
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: you need to uber, or you know, feed your coaches,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: and then you'll obviously you get sponsorships that help you
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: out that gets you there. But I always liked traveling
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: because sometimes when you're home and you're like around the gym,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: like or like I stop at my mother's house. It's
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: always those same like annoying, you're ready, how you feel
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: you gonna do okay, where when you like take yourself
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: out of that situation, you kind of like automatically get
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: into fight mode. So I like traveling because it kind
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: of it already puts you there instead of like, oh,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: it's fight day, like oh my mom wants to see me,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: or like you know, I gotta go, I gotta go
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: in the gym and everyone's like in your face.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Like oh you're ready, like did you make light? Like
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: what you know?
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: And it's it tends to be a lot and like
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: energy of like fight day for me is very like
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: low key. I try to waste or I try to
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: keep my energy at a very good level so I
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: don't get like overly excited. And I feel like sometimes
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: I come off like a little bit you where people
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: are excited and I'm like, let's like, let's just dim
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: it down. I'm so God, you're excited for my fight tonight,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: like but I'm trying to like hang right here and
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: you're like up here.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: So I liked traveling.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: And anytime you fight for promotion, especially as a pro,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: they're gonna take care of you, they're gonna, you know,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: pay for one of your coaches to come out, and
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: usually a sponsor will help you pay for the other,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: or at least in my case, I know sometimes that's
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: not always the case. And they give you a hotel room,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: especially as a girl, they're more they'll give you two
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: hotel rooms because you're a female, so they'll new summer
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: where your coach can stay if you're not like comfortable
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: staying with your coaches or like having a man.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: In the room.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: So that's always nice. But yeah, the promotions always take
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: good care of you for the most part, which is good.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm always careous about yeah, the food and everything
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: else like that. Well, I mean, let's go to the
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: fight day. What does what is the standard for you? Like,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: are you just obviously you're kind of warming up and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: you're you know, like you said, you're mentally kind of
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: kind of keeping even keel. Do you are you keeping
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: music going the whole time? How is the food situation?
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: How do you kind of manage an entire day because
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: it's it's a whole day up till fight time, and
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: then obviously after that is you know, it's cake.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I tend to like compartmentalize my day whause like it's weird,
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: like not. I don't intentionally do it. I just do
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: it like naturally. And usually after Wigan's like that night,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: it's always hard to sleep. So it's hard to get
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: like a good night sleep. I think just because you're
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: adrenaline's already building and.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: You're like you sleep, you wake up, you're like, oh
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: my god, I gotta fight. You sleep, you wake up,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: You're like, oh God.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: But usually, like I wake up, I'll have something pretty
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: basic to eat, something that's gonna like sit in my
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: stomach pretty well, a lot of what I've been eating
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: like leaning up to like weighing in or you know,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: something that's not going to like turn my belly upside down.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: And then uh, like usually the night before I see
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: my boyfriend, I hang out with my boyfriend. We just
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: like kind of talk about the fight, talk about how
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: I feel, and then the next day I go I
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: get my hair braided. So I always go get my
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: hair braided by the same girls. So usually that takes
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: you know, forty five minutes to an hour hang out
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: with them, and then after I'll like get a coffee.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: I'll usually see my mom and this is if I'm home.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: If I'm traveling, usually I'm like hanging at the hotel
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: or uh, depending on where we travel. Like, I don't
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: like to sit around because it just builds my anxiety.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Like if I'm sitting at home, I'm like thinking about
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: the fight and like, oh, I got an hour and
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: a half before I have to leave. Oh, we get
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: forty six minutes. So, like I fought it in my
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Agrifalls once, so me and my coaches went.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: To Niagara Falls.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: We'll walk around you try to like see stuff to
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: kind of get my mind off what I have to
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: do later. And then usually like around three o'clock, I
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: meet my coaches, we drive into you know, wherever I'm fighting,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: and my nerves always seem to settle once I get
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: to the event. Like once I think I'm around the
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: same similar nervous energy of all the other fighters, whether
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: they're nervous or excited. I think, once I'm in that
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: like bubble of emotions, I kind of calm down, like
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: I think less about it, and I'm like, all right,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: well we're here now, and now you know, we get
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: into fight mode. You know, we'll watch if you Usually
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: I'm later now because I'm a pro, So I'll like
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: watch bites, I'll go say hat to all the people
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: from the gym and my family, and then you know,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: once it kind of hits like intermission, I'm usually like
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: after intermission, we go, we get my hands wrapped, we
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: start warming up, stretching, and then it's fight time and
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: then you blink and you're like, oh, we're on the
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: car ride home and it's over.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Right very fast.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: It's all that build up. Yeah, just for that short
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: little period and then you.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Know, but it's fun, enjoyable.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Well how did you get into yoga?
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: So my studio or like my gym offers you and
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: martial arts. So I was always like taking yoga.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Here and there, and then I like to teach.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: I like to I think that I'm a very good instructor,
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: and I think I just wanted to dive deep into
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: yoga and yoga instruction because it was something that I
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: did want to do. And then my studio was offering
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: a yoga teacher training, so I signed up for that
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: teacher training and I finished that in May of twenty
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: twenty four. I had taken one years ago, so technically
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: I had been two yoga teacher trainings, but I was
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: kind of like in a weird relationship and like not
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: in the best mental place, so like it never really
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: got all my work done and got certified. I kind
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: of just like you know, fucked around a little bit
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: and like didn't wasn't motivated.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: So once I got older and was like in my thirties,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I'd like to do it again.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: And I loved it. And it's you know, I love yoga.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna get.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: My plate certification soon, just because it's very popular right now.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: And but yeah, and I think it's good to have
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: that like high energy you know, martial arts, jiu jitsu
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: and then like kind of that tamed yoga and uh yeah,
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: I mean I just love to teach.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I think that it's.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Something that I'm knowledgeable and like I teach really well.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: I like feed that back to my own instructors who
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: taught me how to teach correctly, and like sometimes you
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: go to other gyms and you're like, what, like what
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: is this instruction? So I just I take pride in
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: teaching well, in people understanding, and that was just like
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: another step in becoming a good instructor.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, well, I think the yoga is so fit.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: It's crucial for everybody. I think, yeah, yoga and pilates
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: really because they do do two different things. People are
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: thinking they're roughly the same, and as someone who's taken both,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: they're both very.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Different, very different, very different.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I mean they're both stretching, yes, but everything like pilates,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: like with the with the motion and everything in the ropes,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: it's much different. And stretching, yes, stretching is much deeper,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: and I think it's fantastic. I dated a plate's instructed
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: for a little while and sometimes I would have things
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: out of whack, and so I take a class. I'm like, oh,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I feel so much better afterwards.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: So so much better.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: And pilates, I think a lot of people like underestimate
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: it and this it is hard. I mean I like
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: to think I'm physically fit. I have a strength and
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: conditioning coach I see all the time like I'm in
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: good shape and like I took my first pilates class
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: and was like what, Yeah, I'm like, why am I so?
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Why do I feel like I've never stepped foot in
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: a fitness class in my life. It's so hard, but
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: it's good and they're all heated, so that's nice. Obviously
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: adds an extra like bit to it.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: So yeah, well, I mean, so as much as this
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: obviously is a very physical sport, it's very much a
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: mental one as well. Now that you're obviously a yoga
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: instructor as well, and you've gotten so much in the practice,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: you probably found a much better way to calm your
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: mind and find your center. How did you kind of
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: figure that out along the way before you got there,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: because or was it just kind of something that you
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: just kind of figured out along the way, but you're
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: still kind of ramped up in your own head.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: So that was my biggest downfall I think in some
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: of my pro career is that I wasn't I had all.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: The skill and ability to win.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: So, like my record is eleven in like I have
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: a lot of fights, but there was this like stage
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: in my career where I like thought on Contender series
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: and I lost and then I like won lost one lost,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: lost loss, and I think that my biggest problem was
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: my mental state. Like I had all the skill and
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: ability to beat every single one of those people, but
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: every time I was stepping into the cage, I was
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: so concerned about all the things they were good at
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: and not the things I was good at, And how
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: I could, you know, take advantage of what they're not
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: good at. I was just too focused on what happens
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: if I lose instead of this is how I'm going
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: to win. And it was something that really, like for
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: many many fights, held me back from being as skilled
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: as I actually was. And it's disappointing because I lost
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: before I was even in the cage, and in those moments,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: it didn't feel that way. But like reflecting on it
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: years later now that I'm in a much better mental
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: space and confidence space that I am like, oh I
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: did I lost before every single one of those fights,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Like I knew I had the ability to win, but
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: was so focused on not losing that I almost allowed
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: myself to lose. And it's frustrating because I could have
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: a better record and I could be in a different
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: place in my career.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: But it you know, that's just the way it goes.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: But I think that I in the last few years,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: I realized that your time as a fighter is so
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: drastically short. And I was going into every training session,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: or I was leaving every training session frustrated because I
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: wasn't doing the things that I wanted to be doing,
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: or I was like getting stuck on my back or
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: I got taken down, or something that I drilled all
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: week wasn't successful right away. But I was doing all
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: these other things that I wasn't ever looking at. So
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: I tried to like reswitch that and be like, all right, well,
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: I record every sparring session, so I'd look at every
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: smarting session and I'd write, you know, five things I
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: did really really well, and then a few things I
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: did wrong, and it's like, all right, well, let's highly
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: focus on these things I'm doing really really well that
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: are keeping me from doing all these things wrong. And
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: I just tried to leave every training session with a
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: positive mindset instead of being so frustrated, because that's what
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: I would do, and then it would ruin the rest
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: of my night, and then the next day when I
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: was training, it was all I could focus on. So
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: I just you know, readjusted my mindset.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: And it was hard.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: It took some time, but I think just getting older
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: and you know, being around the right people and just
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: like lifestyle adjustments all together kind of helped that. Like
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: I was in a relationship that they weren't like a
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: non supportive person, but they just weren't involved. And this
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: is such a crucial part of my life. And then,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: you know, I wasn't dating anyone for a while, and
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: then I met the guy that I'm in a relationship now.
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  Speaker 3: Who's just so overly supportive. He holds me accountable.
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  Speaker 4: He you know, asked me about my training and how
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: I'm feeling, and he cares, and I think that and
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: I see how hard he works at what he does,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: which motivated me to want to do better in my
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: own life, which I think is a great thing to have.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: It's good to have a good support system.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: And then just my coaches never quitting on me, Like
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: there were so many people who were in my ear
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: like you think you're done, Like you know, you're on
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: a three using streak, like you know you're you're thirty now,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: like maybe your time's kind of short, and I like, never,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: they never put that in my head.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: They were like, you got this.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: You know, we're going to make some adjustments and we're
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: going to come back and we're gonna, you know, keep going.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: And they never told me to quit or even put
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: that into my head where there were moments when I
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: did want to quit. So just like strong adjustment of mindset,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: I think you'll get teacher training definitely helped with that
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: because you know, I had to dive deep into my
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: body in my mind and yeah, I mean it was
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: it was all mindset. It was never skill. You know,
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: I have all the skill in the world. I'm confident
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: in my skill. I just didn't believe it in that
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: time of my life.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad that you find it later. I mean,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: it's better than never finding it obviously.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: For sure. Yeah, for sure. It took a while, but
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: we got there.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Well, I mean you kind of touched
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: on it earlier and then you just kind of touched
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: on it again. Here, your earlier days are behind you,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: and your time before you is shorter than and you know,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: athletically you would like it to be. Where do you
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: kind of see We'll say five years, where do you
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: see yourself in the next five years and what do
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: you but what would you like to accomplish?
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: So my goal as of right now is still to
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: get into the UFC or I'd like to get another
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Contender series shot. I'm on a five fight win streak.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I genuinely think that if I get a win in May,
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: my goal is to fight in May. If I can
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: get matched up that I would be able to get
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: the opportunity in the fall six fight winch streak became
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: a champ obviously. I had five fights when I first
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: fought for them. I'm, you know, doubled that since then,
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: I know they know who I am. I reach out
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: to them occasionally and I'm like, you know, if you
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: ever need someone, I'm always around, like I'd love to,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: you know, sending messages to Mike, like hey, like, you know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: I know contenders coming up, so I try to just
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: like keep that, you know, in in mind or in
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: their minds uh, you know, in the next five years.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: I don't want to be fighting when I'm thirty eight,
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: so I give myself another good like three years. If
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: I don't make it to the UFC by the time
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: I'm thirty five, I'll probably hang up my gloves, which
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: I'm okay with, you know, I don't unless I'm in
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: the UFC and I'm still fighting and my body is
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: in good shape and I'm able to keep doing that.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: I probably don't want to fight past thirty five. If
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: I haven't, you know, reached the goal that I set
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: for myself. And I'm okay with that, and I've like
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: emotionally accepted that, like you know, this is the way
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: the game. I fought my heart out for years and
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: if that opportunity doesn't come, I still had a good
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: career and you know, I'll have that in my pocket
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: to talk about with you know, family, friends, kids, whatever.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean in the next five years hopefully
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: I'm you know, I don't know married.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean if anything, like you said, you can,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: you're good. You can very much be coaching the next
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: person going to the DUFC.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: So yeah, absolutely, And I genuinely think that I have
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: a teammate Ashley. She's a professional. She's crushing it. She
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: does such a good job. She also fights in my
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: weight class. She's like eight years younger than me, so
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: but she's come such a become such a valuable part
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: of my training because even though we have the same coaches,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: we very much are good at different things. Like she's
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: very strong hipped, she has very strong side control positions.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Good hips.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Where I may be a little lighter on my feet,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: my striking is a little bit different. She's not afraid
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: to stand in the pocket and hit and brawl where
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: I want to hit you and get out. So we
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: benefit each other really really well because we're not the
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: same fighter. So now her being a pro, you know,
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: I'm always in her corner. I'm always traveling with her
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: when she's fighting. So if when I'm done fighting, watching
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: her fight will be like me fighting. So that's how
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: I feel like her wins are my wins. So watching
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: her be successful and you know, do the thing. And
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: if I never make it to the UFC and she does,
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: you know, it's it's like I'm getting in the UFC
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: just because she's like my soul sister, my like a
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: very very good friend. And you know, I love watching
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: her fight. She's the best.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I have a segment, so I call it the five
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Counts's five random questions. Okay, Number one, what are you
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: nerding out on right now?
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: I am currently nerding out on Great British Bakeoff. I
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: don't know if that's even nerding, but I am watching
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: every season currently.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I hear great things. Never seen it, but yeah, I
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: hear fantastic things.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: It's great.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, Number two, if you owned a liquor company, brewery, winery,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: coffee shop or dispensary. Which one would you own and
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: what would the name be?
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: I would probably have a coffee shop. I love coffee.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's a really hard question. Wow, I
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: don't know, like Hillary's Haven or something.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Here we go. I like that.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Number three what would your last movie?
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: My last meal would probably be my mom's chicken pop
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: pie with a coke zero.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Number four? Who what inspires you?
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  Speaker 4: I would say that Rosnama Unis has always been my
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: biggest inspiration.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: She's someone I look up to.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: But definitely just like my mom and my coaches and
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: my teammates, they inspire me the most. Watching them teach
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: in build in Martial Arts has motivated me. So just
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: you know, my coach is my my mom for sure.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: I love her with my whole heart.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I love that. And then number five, what would you
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: tell your seventeen year old self.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: That you are not going to sit behind a desk
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: and you are going to chase a goal that you
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: didn't know was something that you wanted so bad in life,
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: and that you're gonna be so totally impressed with the
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: person that you become and yeah, just you know, you're
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: going to live out your dreams and it's going to
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: be amazing.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: If anybody wanted to find out more about you, follow
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: you online, support you in any way, how can they
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: do so?
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: Ah, you can find me on Instagram. It's really like
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: the only I use this. I have TikTok too, and
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: you can. It's just Hillary Rose, m m A follow me,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: support me.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. I've loved this so much. Thank
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: you so much for your time. I can't wait to
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: see Yeah, I can't wait see you in the UFCS
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: one day.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Thank you me too.
• 35:31
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• 35:32
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• 35:35
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• 35:37
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• 35:40
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