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Anatomy of a Lie Recap w/ Jaime & Emily · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Drama Darling, Drama Darling, Drama Darling.
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  Speaker 2: It is drama Darling today because we were talking about
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  Speaker 2: Anatomy of a Lie, which is an incredible series. Over
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  Speaker 2: on the Peacock, we are joined by two very dramatic
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  Speaker 2: Darlings today, and one is Emily Deresis and the other
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  Speaker 2: is Jamie Moyer. Ladies, welcome man.
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  Speaker 1: Together, we are the Mauricis.
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  Speaker 2: Of the the Maurice's Sisters.
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  Speaker 3: I hope you are all if you can see us,
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  Speaker 3: Jamie and I blend together to make Amy Sweater.
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  Speaker 2: I'm realized, Oh my gosh, that's sick you guys.
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  Speaker 1: That's that is gag.
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  Speaker 2: That is disgusting.
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  Speaker 1: That is so I'm mad, is twisted the way your
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  Speaker 1: mind works. The podcast is off. You're you're as close
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  Speaker 1: to Elizabeth Finch as a human kit.
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  Speaker 2: Good day. I hope you're all enjoying your holiday. This
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  Speaker 2: is when this episode is airing, so hopefully you can
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  Speaker 2: got you guys can get a real pep in your
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  Speaker 2: step after this. The way we're going to do this
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  Speaker 2: is we are going to assume you've already seen this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to go and explain the story because
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  Speaker 2: that just will take too much time, So we're going
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  Speaker 2: to put it out there. There's a woman named Elizabeth
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  Speaker 2: Finch who was a writer on Gray's Anatomy, and this
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  Speaker 2: is what happened, and these are our responses to it.
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  Speaker 2: So welcome into that's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It might be fun if they haven't seen it to
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  Speaker 1: still listen to this. Oh absolutely, really get in there
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  Speaker 1: and then watch it.
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  Speaker 2: And then watch it, you know after the drama Darling
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  Speaker 2: Holiday Zoo Extravaganza. Uh, there were there was a couple
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  Speaker 2: of Darlings. They're like, you know what, I haven't seen that.
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  Speaker 2: I just listened to Amy's recaps and I was just like,
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  Speaker 2: what an amazing compliment. So you don't have to watch
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  Speaker 2: the shows to listen to the recaps. So that being
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  Speaker 2: the point, So welcome and wow, this is this is
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  Speaker 2: this is a crazy town USA popular.
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  Speaker 3: It is crazy town usay. And I think we all
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  Speaker 3: probably have cross paths with somebody like this, especially in entertainment. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: oh yeah, and family, I think it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean like family, friends, acquaintances, guys. You know, like
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  Speaker 2: I have a family, I have a family member personally
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  Speaker 2: you know that's nowhere near in this level. But is
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  Speaker 2: like a compulsive liar, Yeah, Okay, m hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I say entertainment, but I mean it's anywhere
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  Speaker 3: in the world that this happens. But I mean I think,
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  Speaker 3: I I think because and in the world of entertainment
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  Speaker 3: lends itself to fantasy, like you do kind of attract
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  Speaker 3: a certain person, and not just like television and film,
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  Speaker 3: I mean the act. I'm just saying in general.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god. When they started, I was like, say
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  Speaker 2: no more. When they explained that drama she was in
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  Speaker 2: the drama club, and I was like, and we so
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  Speaker 2: many of us have been in the drama club. But
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  Speaker 2: all I kept seeing was somebody who just wanted to
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  Speaker 2: be a TV star. As Jannon Badoor said, all I
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  Speaker 2: saw was somebody who loved theater. I was like, you
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  Speaker 2: are a theater geek. Gone turn left, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Like this to the next level. But at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, obviously it's not that simple. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is a major mental illness. And quite frankly, at
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  Speaker 2: the end and towards the end, I just really I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't help but feel bad for her because I just thought, yes,
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  Speaker 2: she's destroyed lives, she's destroyed her own life, she's betrayed
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  Speaker 2: so many people. She's completely fraudulent, but she is completely
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  Speaker 2: mentally ill, and she has not had the help that
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  Speaker 2: she needs, like she's been able to like run rampant
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  Speaker 2: like this. And I did feel bad because she's a
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  Speaker 2: she is a victim of her own brain. Unfortunately. So
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  Speaker 2: though I know that she's responsible, you guys are looking
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  Speaker 2: at me like, no, she needs to pay up.
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  Speaker 1: She needs to.
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  Speaker 3: She's a person.
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  Speaker 1: I concur she has an illness, but she is a
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  Speaker 1: con person. And the the no crying that that is
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  Speaker 1: no empathy. People with no empathy sociopaths. They scare me
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  Speaker 1: very deeply.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, because I think if she was a straight
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  Speaker 3: white guy or you know, just so, I would be terrified.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have one ounce of any like I think
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  Speaker 3: if if it was if it came in a different package,
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  Speaker 3: you will probably be like, oh my god, run, don't
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  Speaker 3: walk right. I don't feel bad for this person because
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  Speaker 3: it's too dangerous.
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  Speaker 1: Amy I did. I did feel bad for her about
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  Speaker 1: one little time when she was like, you took my kids.
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  Speaker 1: A part of me thought maybe she did like having
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  Speaker 1: the kids. But then again, what does she say all
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  Speaker 1: the time to that guy, I don't want kids?
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  Speaker 2: Right, Well, yeah, they weren't kids when they got kids, right,
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  Speaker 2: she got got married to.
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  Speaker 1: Them, she got attached to them.
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  Speaker 2: And yet she was in that house. Well, tell me
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  Speaker 2: about this house across the alley from that. That fucking
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  Speaker 2: like HGTV makeover thing that was insane, the drone shots
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  Speaker 2: at that McDonald's house. I was like, guys, take it down.
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  Speaker 3: Down a notch. Yes, but just the fact that you
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  Speaker 3: can get a house and then across a big old
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  Speaker 3: house and then across the street have your like office
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  Speaker 3: set up. I was like, this is Kansas, living man,
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  Speaker 3: this is great Kansas.
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  Speaker 1: You Emily, you nailed it on the head.
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  Speaker 2: Move.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a friend who's living in Where's where
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  Speaker 1: is Kate Kentucky?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Edmond, Oklahoma? Pardon me?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And uh not to put her city on blast. She
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  Speaker 1: lives in what I would call in l a a
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  Speaker 1: ginormous mansion.
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  Speaker 3: And wait a second, is it Oklahoma? It might be
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  Speaker 3: Oklahoma that they live in. No, not in the an
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  Speaker 3: anatomy of lies, is that where jas? It is Kansas? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: I have no recollection. I feel like it's Topeka.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, thank.
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  Speaker 1: You you say so, Amy. I will not fact check you.
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  Speaker 1: Is that a Luke Perry coffee mug? What do you
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  Speaker 1: got going on there?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's it's Lake Tahoe but close.
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  Speaker 4: Like I like it.
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  Speaker 3: Even it would just say Luke Perry.
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  Speaker 2: But with that background, this is the greatest thing that's
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  Speaker 2: ever happened to me. Jan Perry. Sorry, all right, we
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  Speaker 2: can leave. We have plenty to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so let's dig in. Let's dig in.
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  Speaker 2: Who wants to start?
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  Speaker 1: Good? Yeah, so good, Emily, I heard tell you've seen this.
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  Speaker 1: More of the ones I could see, I have almost
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  Speaker 1: immediate rewatch.
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  Speaker 3: Well. The one thing that stuck out to me, like
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  Speaker 3: the second time I watched it was at the very beginning,
• 7:28
  Speaker 3: when they're talking about, Oh, first of all, there's a
• 7:32
  Speaker 3: couple of things. Her cadence is a question everything. When
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  Speaker 3: she's saying, it's like I worked as an assistant for
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  Speaker 3: a season and then they fired one of the writers
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  Speaker 3: and I got his job, Like it's all that.
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  Speaker 1: There is an official term for that, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: I studied it in college. Oh what is it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the effect? No, what is it?
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  Speaker 1: It's called up speak.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're right. You're totally right. Because everybody
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  Speaker 3: accused Katie Porter of having up speak, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: just let her do her thing right. But I noticed
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  Speaker 3: that this particular way of speaking I'm familiar with with
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  Speaker 3: somebody that was.
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  Speaker 4: A pathological liar in my life, and I was like, they.
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  Speaker 3: Are speaking the same ways.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. She had a lot of tells too, when she
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  Speaker 2: was at that birthday, her fortieth birthday party, where it
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: was like, I'm so I can't believe I've made it
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  Speaker 2: this far. I'm alive. I should be dead. Thank you
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  Speaker 2: to all. This is a miracle.
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  Speaker 3: And a doctor and doctor oh.
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  Speaker 2: My god, they want to remain anonymous, so I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to call them out.
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  Speaker 3: And then she does what she'sous.
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  Speaker 2: She like reaches up to her head, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: it's like it's a total lie. You can see she's
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  Speaker 2: got these tells. And you know, no, I've never lied
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  Speaker 2: and I've I have no regrets so far. No one's
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  Speaker 2: been disappointed in my work so far, you know, all
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  Speaker 2: these types of things along the way, you see. But
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  Speaker 2: the doctor's thing, I literally ll oled out loud.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, this.
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  Speaker 2: Is I mean, they flew all the way in from
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  Speaker 2: Missouri to be here for me. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: call them out.
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  Speaker 1: It's like they asked not to be They asked.
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  Speaker 2: They asked not to be acknowledged.
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  Speaker 3: Right, but it's like a Hollywood party.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, please, My jaw hit the downstairs neighbor's floor.
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  Speaker 2: That party, man.
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  Speaker 1: Unba believable that party. That And also speaking of that party, frankly,
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe those are the kind of candles you're
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  Speaker 1: supposed to blow out. I think she really biffed it
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  Speaker 1: on that. That was another moment where I was like, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: maybe work Lily insane. It sells fireworks. They're not supposed
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  Speaker 1: to it's just decorative.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, it was insane and we had to see
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  Speaker 2: it over and over again. It was a fire hazard.
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  Speaker 3: She probably people probably wanted to have a fortieth birthday
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  Speaker 3: party for her, and she probably knew that, and then
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  Speaker 3: she'd have to like expose herself too much if somebody
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  Speaker 3: who's going to have a party for her, So.
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  Speaker 2: She probably people would be talking and connecting for her.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's such a.
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  Speaker 3: Great I'm just realizing that now.
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  Speaker 2: You are so right. Well, this whole thing about like
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  Speaker 2: it is pretty amazing that she did get genuinely like
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  Speaker 2: actually got writing jobs on True Blood and Vampire Diary
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  Speaker 2: on her own.
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  Speaker 3: That was the point I noticed on the second time
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  Speaker 3: I watched that she is talking about when she got
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  Speaker 3: promoted from a writer's assistant to a writer. Is that
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  Speaker 3: something happened with the guy and then she he didn't
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  Speaker 3: do his job, she killed him.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'm sure she.
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  Speaker 3: Like probably loosened the soil with some bullshit. Yeah, got
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  Speaker 3: him fired.
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  Speaker 1: At the bottom, fell out from under the guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking. And the fact that she had applied
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  Speaker 2: to get that job on Gray's Anatomy didn't get it
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  Speaker 2: and she was so mad. But then I wasn't going
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  Speaker 2: to watch it, and then memorized basically every single episode,
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: and then with this whole cancer thing when she decided
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  Speaker 2: that she was gonna she she sent that book to
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  Speaker 2: her friend, her friend coming with her to the Mayo
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  Speaker 2: clinic and her friend going inside, and she's like so
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: mad that she went inside. This reminded me of that
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: podcast that you turned me on to, Emily Commanda Commander.
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  Speaker 1: I love, yes, love that podcast. Yes, this really smacked
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  Speaker 1: that too.
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  Speaker 2: It smacked to that. It smacked to that big time.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you actually, because I was literally least seconds from
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: saying do you do you guys know about a podcast
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  Speaker 1: about a mom who did this?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Emily told me about it and I binged it
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  Speaker 2: and it's like, so she had started this stuff early
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  Speaker 2: on and it was really just a ruse in the
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  Speaker 2: beginning with her friend. Then she then she was I
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  Speaker 2: guess she wanted to like move on to other writing jobs.
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  Speaker 2: And she wrote an article that to lle about battling cancer,
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  Speaker 2: about the Friday night lights thing, and then she got
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  Speaker 2: that viral thing about.
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  Speaker 3: Her fuck her for using Friday night lights and how
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: dare Yeah that was see Coach Taylor's precious fucking time
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  Speaker 3: with that state picture.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to say something back to the difference
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  Speaker 1: between Finch and Scamanda. I think that Scamanda is not
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  Speaker 1: a true sociopath. I think that was a grifter thing
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  Speaker 1: and a money grab. She wanted the money, so the
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  Speaker 1: Amanda wanted all the donations. She wanted the money. I
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  Speaker 1: do I think they are the same. Yeah, But as
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: a listener of true crime podcasts of these natures, I
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  Speaker 1: will tell you another thing. Jen, the.
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  Speaker 3: Poor Jen Buyer.
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  Speaker 1: Wife. Yes, Jen, when she said we pulled up to
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  Speaker 1: the beach and I said, I know you lied about this.
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  Speaker 1: I know you lied about that. I know you light
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  Speaker 1: about this. All I was thinking is, bitch, you are
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  Speaker 1: so lucky she didn't murder you in that way. That
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  Speaker 1: is what the podcast would have done.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, wow, Okay, here's what I was thinking. Bit,
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  Speaker 2: why did you fly all the way to Los Angeles
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  Speaker 2: to confront her to then lose your mind on the beach?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah fucking mora. Okay, well, well hang.
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  Speaker 3: On now, Jen, she's very open that she is not
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  Speaker 3: maybe making the most stable decisions.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, She's like, we needed a place, we need it,
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  Speaker 2: a place to Sorry, all right, do.
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  Speaker 1: Not make fun of Jen's vocal fry.
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  Speaker 2: It never let up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she's been through Hallie.
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  Speaker 2: I know, but I'm sorry. There is something too. Someone
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  Speaker 2: inviting trauma into your life at this level again and
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: again and again. Okay, I'm not talking about Brendan. That's
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  Speaker 2: a whole different story. That's a complete victim. But when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to this, she very much turned her head
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  Speaker 2: in many different directions and was overlooking it. She made
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  Speaker 2: extremely reckless decisions. She brought this woman into her life
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  Speaker 2: and married her four weeks later after her kids experienced
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: it a traumatic situation, and she wasn't even able to
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  Speaker 2: be with them this entire time. So I have an
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  Speaker 2: issue with Jen. Okay, but then wait.
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  Speaker 3: A second, let me wait one quick argument to that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, how fucked up?
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  Speaker 3: Was the apparent psychologists and all this, Oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: that probably was guiding some of Jen's decisions, especially early
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  Speaker 3: on because they met at the mental facility, and then
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  Speaker 3: the psychologists stayed on and was both of their individual therapist.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds like, wait, that the you mean the psych
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  Speaker 2: so Jen's psychologist that she's talking about that ultimately Elizabeth
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  Speaker 2: stole from her in the end, was the psychologist from
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  Speaker 2: the institution.
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  Speaker 1: That they were in.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, oh my god. I did not know that. I
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  Speaker 2: thought it was just someone on the outside. So this
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  Speaker 2: person knew both of them.
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  Speaker 3: Was and was Jen's I think hers right, it was,
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  Speaker 3: And then I think, yeah, that was the violent my understanding.
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  Speaker 3: And then so it started then to like once they
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  Speaker 3: were out, was still gens and then was also Elizabeth's
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  Speaker 3: and then Elizabeth and then fully Elizabeth's and then advocating
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  Speaker 3: for Elizabeth right crazy.
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  Speaker 2: That was one of the most intense moments I think,
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  Speaker 2: And I thought that level of betrayal is like you
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  Speaker 2: can't even compare that, because that is a professional that
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  Speaker 2: you're trusting in and you think that they're the person
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  Speaker 2: that you're going to be able to like actually, you know,
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  Speaker 2: stick up for you and be there for you. And
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  Speaker 2: for her to switch sides in the middle of it
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  Speaker 2: was like and it just left her alone.
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  Speaker 3: And I also feel bad for Jen because it's like
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  Speaker 3: when somebody is I mean, she was actually really trying
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  Speaker 3: to get the most help you can get. She knows
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  Speaker 3: she has these problems, and she was trying to get
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  Speaker 3: that help. Yeah, and then she got.
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  Speaker 2: She was doing the work. She was doing all the work.
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  Speaker 3: And there was a wolf in there and a wolf
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  Speaker 3: and that was and that was Finch, and she was
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  Speaker 3: just looking she was a predator. Yeah, and apparently maybe
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  Speaker 3: even this doctor was too, so in a different way.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like, no, Jen did not get better in
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  Speaker 3: that way. Like to your point, Amy, like how could
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  Speaker 3: she be to whatever? I know you didn't say that
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  Speaker 3: I'm exaggerating, but like I think she actually tried and
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  Speaker 3: then the and she got fucked over it.
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  Speaker 2: I do agree, I do agree with you, but and
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  Speaker 2: I think that it was an impossible situation for her. Obviously,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: this is a comedy podcast, and we're discussing a very
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  Speaker 2: traumatic series, so I'm gonna be off color. But at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, she was gonna lose lose
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: situation because I don't know how anybody can make soch
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  Speaker 2: any good decisions based on being in a traumatic situation. However,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: if the most important thing to her is getting your
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: kids back, I think it's pretty simple to say to
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  Speaker 2: not include someone else in the in the situation based
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: on the fact that you're just getting them back and
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: your ex husband did commit suicide and you're now bringing
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  Speaker 2: this person in on that exact day.
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: You understand her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, to quote baby Face sent pebbles in there e
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: pitome of a duet. Love makes things, Love makes things happen.
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  Speaker 1: You never know when you're gonna love, You never know
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  Speaker 1: who you're gonna trust.
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  Speaker 3: And it's also a chemical reaction.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I think Jenna had been through hell. This this Finchy,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: which I love the whole time. Everyone's so cute about
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: her nicknames while they're like, she's an absolute nightmare, little
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: finchy bird all Yeah, told chi uh Finci swept in
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  Speaker 1: And I have a vibe that I have two sides
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  Speaker 1: of the love coin. One is she just wanted to
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: date someone so she could siphen some more stories. Yeah
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: we all think that, right, But she.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Went to a trauma center to find that.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly really yeah, actually very smart yet again calculated.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: But the other thing that I do think is Elizabeth
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Fincher did it to yourself by letting someone in. Everyone
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: knows the only person you can trust is yourself. Don't date.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: You're going to have to keep it real if you
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: want to keep on this track and end up one
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: of the hottest tickets in Hollywood. Sorry, no dating. Yes,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: that you let someone behind the curtain.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: It's a great point, which makes me wonder what is
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: behind all of her motivation to fly out to Kansas
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: City and save this person's life and be the hero
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: for this family. Like, what's behind that? If it's just
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: a story that she's looking for, that's a huge that
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: just yeah, it's like, was she maybe looking for something more? Now? Emily,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: you have the statement there that she put on her
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Instagram and this was her response.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Ticket Drama Darling. I haven't seen this yet, so I'm
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: very excited.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Well, it's basically her response to after Anatomy of a Lie,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: came out, and what's weird about it is that there's
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: something in there that is also doesn't pan out. I
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: don't know who's telling the truth. Because she mentions that
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: they fell in love and that Jen proposed to her
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: with a lavender wrapped around her finger, and I was
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: like what, But I thought that Elizabeth proposed to her, so.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, maybe there was it was a little
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: of both, you know what I mean, like maybe they
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: played engagement, you know how that goes. You know, when
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Brett brought you lavender, but then you were also proposing
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: to him with.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Sure that's true.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: That did happen.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: That did happen.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: You're right, I love how I thought you were about
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: to be, Like, lavender is never in season in Canada.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: On the table, did.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Either of you watch The British Office, because there's an
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: episode where there's like the like the kind of guy
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: that can upstage Ricket your vase in the office and
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: his name's Finch and Ricky's your vase is kissing his
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: ass the whole time He's like Finch.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Ay, I forgot about that.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I thought every time they said Finchy, I'm like, oh.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: My god, that's so funny. Okay, so do you want
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: to say, yeah, Jamie's got her drama Darling had on.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: It looks looking so good. Oh no, her headphones are
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: falling apart. So in this Instagram statement, by the way,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: what is wild is everything that she admitted on the
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: actual I'm sorry in in real time she's, oh, okay,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I'm just just gonna talk until you. I was finally okay,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Jamie's got her headphones back together. But what I was
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: gonna say is on the show she kind of retracts
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of her lies, but she sticks to that.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: She never retracts the director uh, the acusation that the
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: directors sectually harassed her, and she never fully retracts that
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: her brother was abusive on some level.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: So that is fucking crazy.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Also, like, don't forget remember at the beginning when the
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: theater gal is remembering that she wrote the Daddy's Home
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Play about her dad who was abusive father. Yeah, she
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: didn't say it was her dad, but it was so
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: like fucking remembering her parents were like her mom was
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: like crying.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: You're so right. It was probably some other student story
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: from that Drama Department of Television.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: She was watching. Yes, Yeah, yeah, you know what when
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: she was like, I don't deny what happened to my brother,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: he would hold withhold the remote control and the room.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I'm like, bitch, that is like I did that yesterday
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: to my husband. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I did not
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: do that. I did throw the room. I did throw
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: the remote towards him one time. I'm at the walk
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: So I was very mad, okay and he and he
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: was like, I can't believe it did that. He's like,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: you almost hit me? And I go, if I wanted
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: to hit you, I would have hit you. And that
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: was like probably the worst fight we ever got in.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: And it was during COVID because everyone was going fucking berserk.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: What was what? What was the circumstance?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: It was during COVID, and I think we had both
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: had drinks that night, and so I don't remember. I
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: honestly do not remember what we were even fighting about.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I can't even remember the fight. But all I know
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: is I was seething with anger. No, no, I threw
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: it in the room at the wall. I threw it
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: at the wall, you guys, Yeah.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Did it bounce off the walk break? Yeah?
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: No, it didn't break. It was it didn't throw it
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: that hard. It did not it did not break. And
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: he was like, what the fuck he was Look, I'm
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: telling him, look that it happened. Okay, that's the worst.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: That's the worst. That's the thing I've ever done.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I don't even know that I've ever seen you ever
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: even barely upset.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Really Okay, Well that's the that's wow, that's the that's
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: the worst it's ever been. Is the worst fight we
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: ever got into, and I don't even know what it's
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: about yet.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Was when I couldn't get my headset that cat.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, So all right. So in this statement, she says, well,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to read the whole thing. It just
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: says I lied about so much things so many people
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: have been devastated by in real life. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Feels like the smallest words compared to what I've done,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Yet they are the truest. I trap myself in the
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: addition of lies, betraying and traumatizing my closest family, friends
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: and colleagues. I'm making amends and expressing my genuine remorse
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: as I best can when people are ready.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: So it's every It's also I can't help. Like every
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: time she speaks or anything, it sounds like a Gray's
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Anatomy monologue to me too, and like and sometimes I
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: lied and sometimes and there's always like a fourth and.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Sorry she got caught. Not sorry you guys.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah you know we didn't start back up. We were recording.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: R we are no, we are recording. Oh okay, yeah,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: you guys?
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Did you DIEI it was an honest prank that I
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: didn't mean to do. That's not a lie.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Go aheady, did you guys die? When Jen went to
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: go look through her stuff in the Facebook and she
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: was all dressed as Wednesday.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I'm pretty good. She's like, where what's she
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: on the day of the shooting? What a Wednesday?
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: And she qualified for Best Costume? You qualified for Best Costume?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: You weren't there?
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Wait? Oh god, oh good, Oh my god. It was
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: so that was insane too. I just picked up the
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: blown of bart bits. It's like you would not be
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: allowed on their crime scene.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Well, the one writer, the guy with the pool in
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: the background, Mark Wildling. I had to write his name down.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: He was the one that was back at Gray's Anatomy, Like,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: isn't it The FBI is there, like what is going on?
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: And then her friend Andy was like, well, I don't
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: know what. I don't know the Jewish faith that well,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: so I don't know if there's some protocol like and
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: so they kept giving her a pass and I couldn't
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: believe that she had them all fulled because in our
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: world we had somebody like that. I don't know if
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: you guys know this person or not, but like people
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: figured it out and words spread and there was no
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: going back. We all knew the bullshit. And so I'm like, wow,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: these people really believed her for a long time. And
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: the other thing is she did look ill.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I will say, I mean though she is the picture
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: of illness. And she straight up was getting that bruise
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: kit like it's the it's you know, you go right
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: over and get like the palettes with the green and
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: the blue. And she was probably doing that.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: But her hair was thinning.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: You can't take that thin you But she was shaving
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: her head, wasn't she when she was putting on the
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: was she not?
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: No, there was like it was like very thin. And
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: I thought like maybe she was like maybe taking something
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: like like maybe she was ingesting something.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I think she had a little bit of like possibly
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: PCOS because she had a little bit of but you
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: could tell she had a little bit of a.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Hair right hair, Yes, hormonia balance, Yes.
• 28:01
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  Speaker 1: I want to say something back to what you just said,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Emily about when you know some one. So I also
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: knew someone this was in Detroit, and this is not
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: the guy I was also mentioned. This is a whole
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: other person. And what I came to understand is that people,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and this is what I think the writers did, and
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: all the people who in her life. People tend to
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: believe people because they themselves usually tell the truth. So
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: this person that I used to know would be like,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: like we'd all be sitting around and someone like like,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: let's say I say something hilarious, okay, and everybody last,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: let's just say I I can't. Let's just say let's
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: just say this was this is pre Second City, this
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: is when I was in college, and this person would
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: be like, did I tell you I'd saved someone from
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: drowning in a lake? And we'd all be like, what happened?
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Like we didn't. Then I came to start realizing, oh,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: they're lying all the time, and I started noticing all
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: the time, these little lies, and and then I started
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: to look like the crazy person because I was like, like,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I remember one time this person said, oh, I was
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: at the gas station and they gave me free cigarettes.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: And then my other friend goes, oh, it must be nice.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: They have boobs, and everyone laughed, and I'm thinking to myself, no,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I gave you free cigarettes. If you were at the
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: gas station, they might give you a free pop or
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: a free like some candy. But cigarettes is their moneymaker,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: that is their stock. But then if I start yelling that,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I start to look nuts.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: You know, No, you're right, because then that's their intention.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: It's like you can never call them out, which is
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: why it's it's this group of writers had no escape
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: from this, and that was the most fascinating thing to watch,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: these especially the two like the one whose story was
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: actually stolen, the about her father's race, Ki ky Leilei Donovan. Yeah, right,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: she was like between her and that other guy that
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: you said. I just kept thinking to myself, they are
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: They're kind of having to put it on for the
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: camera in the sense of the like we just believed her.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: We just thought, oh my god, I felt so bad,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: and I was like, you were sitting there going are
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: you kidding me?
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Again?
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: They know, Oh my gosh, we'd betext one hundred percent
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: from the jump, and they have to be like, oh,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: we totally understand, Like that's horrific. I can't believe this
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: is happening to you because they have to. She is
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: in charge, she's the co executive producer under Shonda Rhymes.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: And the fact that she was able to get away
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: with this and then go off. But I did want
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: to ask you a question when she went to the
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: when when there was that attack on the synagogue, So
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: when she was like freaking out when that happened. They
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: said that she just up and left and flew there
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh, Right, is that what happened? So she just
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: picked up and left, saying that what she had been
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: there before, she knows people, and she had to go
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: get their ashes. Why did what does she say she
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: had to do or why did she.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: They they don't cremate in the Jewish faith, but they Yeah,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: she'd knows she had to go and be with the bodies.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: But why why I knew? Okay, so she said she.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Used to go there back in the day, and she's
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: starting out of the room and didn't even say anything.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: She just sent an email later. But I also thought
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: something else about her, and I just cannot wait to
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: tell y'all what I was thinking. Okay, I think that
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: she didn't even go to Pittsburgh. I think that she
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: another costumes on time leep. I think, well, yes, she
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: loved to dress up and she loved to rest.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I was just going to say, the man, you love
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: to sleep.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I get every time someone thought she was off doing something,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I feel like she was laying in bed watching the
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one equivalent of TikTok.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I agree. I think she had to escape to rejuvenate,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: to recharge, because this is exhausting having to live a lie,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: not one lie, tremendous amount. She's like, this is my
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: ticket to leave, figure something else out and rest. I
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: totally agree, which is why she's over in that house
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: across the way, sleeping, sleeping.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I also could see her being so manic to
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: just fly to Pittsburgh and get a hotel room and
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: do it and not really ever leave the hotel room.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: That's exactly, I totally right, exactly that she probably did
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: go there and then just held up in a hotel
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Vibe that she likes to sleep kids kind of alluded
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: to that, and she just feels kind of lazy. She
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: feels kind of like she's just like chilling. Uh, you know,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: when she leaves these places, I think she goes to rest.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I think that it has a lot to do with
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: the mental illness too. I mean, your brain is like
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: it outside of control so.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Much to keep track of.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: What do you think? Dana and I were texting about
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: it when I watched it initially.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Chang ex spread without us. I don't love it.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Well, you're really gonna hate it too, because it's mainly
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: about you being a pathological liar.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Never again, I am, I am no kid.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: You're lying, right, guys.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I just got a text. I'm going to be in
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: the touring company of Wicked. I'm going to be Alphaba.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Oh this is so exciting. Good lie, good lie that
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: for you. You'd be great. You have a great voice.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Jamie's lying again. She's lying again. Jamie's You're lying in congratulations,
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Amy though, thank you, thank you.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: So did you think that I really had to have
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: a knee replacement today? When I put that lie on.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: The threads, I will say, I will say for one
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: second and I was like, oh, wait, this is a lie,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: and I could have you could have had me praying actually.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Because you wrote back and You're like really, And I
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: was like, is that a bit on her purchase? Right?
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Go on? You? Okay?
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: So you and so so because we were like, what,
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: we don't know what this Shonda rhymes think because it
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: wasn't like she was that far removed from everything, and
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: we were trying to figure that out.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: And I wonder if well, like so, I'm thinking, I
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: bet she can't have a statement because I think like
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: there is a there is a mental medical issue going
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: on here, and for I wonder if yes, yeah, so
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: they like had to let her go for medical reasons.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: That's what I love that they did point that out,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: that they had to go into the books and really
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: make sure how can we let her go without getting sued?
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: She did, Dear Shanda.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I mean that.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Especially because Gray's Anatomy had vilified Jen so hard. That's
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: where I'm like, yeah, that's why I think like the
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: writers didn't like really get it, because Andy was saying,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: did Jen Trapfinch? Is she making her like her cap?
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Did she kidnap her? Basically? And now she's like brain
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: like some fucking crazy workaround. So for Jen to then
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: email Gray's Anatomy in that headspace of like this psychopath.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Uh, she was very brave to expose her. I thought,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: holy shit, she's really going for it. She was like,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I emailed Shanda, I got in touch with the Vanity Fair.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I uh, you know. I was like, okay, bitch, now
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: we're taking it to Hollywood. I mean, let's be real.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: She was swept up in this fantasy of like she
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: was swept up to LA. She was flown out to
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: l A. She was then in this private home and
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: they like she was rescued.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, I mean, millionaire who don't even have
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: a bit of security. The writer raised Anatomy.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Is like, that's my I know, that's my security.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: You bring Kansas to LA. That's why my friends rich.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: They're like, I know you're rich. I saw you on
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: parks and wreck that tiny coaster. Oh my god, that's
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: what happens.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Oh on, Jamie, that's what happens when you bring Kansas
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: to la. I think that you're all that. And she
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: knew that. Wait, this other thing killed me when Anna
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Paquin gave her a kidney, got a pack. When kidney
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: you didn't want anyone to know, I mean.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: And ice, it's my new kidney pack, one in ice.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: And ice.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: That's great.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: I got to get that true blood kidney. And the
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: fact that she goes to the doctor and the kidneys.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: He's like, your kidneys look fine and gen well.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Also the nurse Jen like that is crazy too, that
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: I think fits in her narcissism. Thought, great, I'll accidentally
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: when I'm with Jen, she's going to co sign under
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: this medical shit for me. And then Jen's like, where's
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: your port scar or whatever? Like she put that together
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: and she put together the kidney. The doctor said about
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: the kidney. But then yeah, but She's like, I never
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: looked at her body that way.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, how did I get that? Jen had
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: been through a horrible trauma, her her brain was a
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: little scrambled. She found her voice there at the end.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: But also, when you are a victim of DV. I think,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: like anyone who you feel can slightly protect you in
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: that moment, you're just so scared to even be alone
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: for one minute even you know.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: No, you're right, And that does make sense that she
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: got she jumped into this quickly. I do get that
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: And she was manipulated to by the Bye Finch.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: She did not have a chance. She didn't have a
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: chance Jen.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I found it really interesting when Jen basically
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: looked at the camera and was like, I mean I
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: met her in a mental institution.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that, Like what was I thinking.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that does not sound good, and you're right,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: like it makes sense, but I get it, Like she
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: really did come in and whisk her away. When someone
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: called Elizabeth I was one of the writers an emotional terrorist,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: and I was like, thank you. Remember when Kristen Dote
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: when stasy called Christen Doti emotional terrorists. I was like, no,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: this is an emotional terrorist.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: And I found it heartbreaking when Jen's daughter said she
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: was worried. She she's very she's an amazing young lady,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: and she was.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Like very, very put together.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she said if she doesn't stick around. You know,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: she's she's going to be in every photo and she's
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: going to be an emotional photo bomber because I'm going
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: to remember these moments.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. She a way of phrasing a couple
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: things that I thought, like.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: She's the writer, she's she's she was really good her
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: father that house, when she came back to that house
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: and what he did to it, and the terror that
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: he put them through. That video he sent her when
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: she was still in the facility was the scariest.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Then for Elizabeth Finch to then manipulate Jen years later
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: with a similar video like I'm like that was supposed Yeah,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: next level oair. She knew Finch knew exactly what she
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: was doing, and Jenna thought that Finch was in la
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: and now she's taking local pictures.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Scary the way.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: What about this Camilla Luddington that says it was my idea?
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Did you also were manipulated by the way anyone can
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: make someone seem like it's their idea. We've all done it. Oh,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: if I only knew where to have dinner, I would
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: love some pasta and also some bread and some endless breadsticks.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: What about a great idea, But.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I was saying, I was really confused why they kept
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: showing that at the end that Jennifer that Elizabeth said
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: that she got the idea from for silent What was
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: the name of the episode.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, silent from from the Kavanaugh trial. Yeah, from the
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Cavanaugh but he hearings, Yeah, the rights the Senate hearings
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: with doctor Christine Ford.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Right, So it's like she's saying she got it from there,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: not from Kylie or Riley. And then Camilla is like,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: who played the character? Is like, oh, I I suggested this,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, who is the liar here? You know, like,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: are you a liar to what is happening?
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Why? Why?
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Why did they put that on there?
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: She Yeah, I thought that was a weird.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: We didn't need that, We didn't need that, thank you.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But I do think that that she's not a liar.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I think that that she was with someone very manipul
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: who manipulated her into coming up with that idea.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think I too. I see what you're saying.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I think cover her ass.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think was about No.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: No, I got what you were saying. I just didn't
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: put it into I understand now I'm gonna set I'm
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: in an eight minute delay. Brilliant. Thank you so much
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: for putting that together. That was I that was stuck
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: in my crow.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think Finch had the idea and then
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: she to Jamie's olive garden theory exactly. She then sat
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: down with the actress and was like, man, Matt, can
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: you imagine this? And then I think in and then
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: cut too. Years later, when she's going down with Finch,
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: or prior to it going down or whatever, there's a
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: rumbling of this. She will probably manipulate the actress again
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: to be like, remember when we came up with that
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: idea after.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: It was your doctor that inspired this. Yeah, you're so right. God,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad you guys cracked that for me because
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I was so confused.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: That's why we do this.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: That is why we did this. The work you guys.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: When the staff even though they have her number by now,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: which is so crazy because you know, they're talking shit
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: about her twenty four to seven and they're loving it.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: But the fact that she's like, oh my god, like
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: I you know, I can't get back, you know, the
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: kids need me because it's COVID and like I and
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: now Jen is going away and all this stuff, so
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: I can't write my episode. Will you guys write my
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: episode for me? And then to find out the reality
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: of that that the staff writes her episode and she
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: gets all the fucking residual money.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, napping whole time.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: She was naw him naps magoodagree ps.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Not just napping, but refusing to get vaccinated so that
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: poor fucking girl could not go back to school and
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: half the rest of school years.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: That was so twist. And then she would go and
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: check into a hotel and right, what an asshole?
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Asshole? And I don't think there's a redeemable quality there
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: when I'm not hearing about the tears and stuff. How
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: do you reform a sociopath? You know? How? How can
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: a doctor? How could anyone? It's like she is the
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: epitome of I'm sorry, I got caught.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, because the things that she isn't going back
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: on are things that weren't in writing, like the brother
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: abuse and the vampire diary. Thing like those are vague
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: and she can keep those balls in the air. But
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: like Jen could prove a timeline with the Pittsburgh the
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: synagogue and the bar Halloween contest and like other things
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: that like you can't there's no port scar, there's two kidneys,
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: like you can't refute those things.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Emily, I was a little confused about something. Perhaps you
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: could shine a light, uh when they discovered those pictures.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: But also wasn't she in the writer's room and like,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I'm leaving right now? How come nobody else noticed those
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: pictures based on the fact that she went rushing right.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Over because remember she was telling people two different stories.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: So right, yeah, she was posting. That's a great question.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: How because I think the time the time, like people
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: were getting two different I think she would tell a
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: lie and heighten the lie for different people saw.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: The picture Wednesday, Adams.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: They were there, No, so she this was like the
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: day after the lot. Some of the writers were with her.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: But what she had told at the costume party and
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: then the synagogue thing happened and then she flew out.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: But I think she told Jen she was in Pittsburgh
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: when it happened.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Oh that's okay, Yeah, so when she went because that's
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: the gun Yes, that's why she couldn't hear gunshots.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: That's because she was there when it happened. To Jen,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: to the writers.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: She left the next Okay, so it was two different stories.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I see. So she told that's why she told Jen
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: and why she was in the PTSD treatment facility because
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: she was actually at in the synagogue when it happened.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: What about her giving the character name at the hospital.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Oh that was weird.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I thought that was another sign of some troubles falling down.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Oh jeez, I have another Wait, go ahead, Jamie, do
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: you have another question?
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I do?
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Is this the last will here from Elizabeth? God?
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: I hope not. Where is Elizabeth Finch?
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, she just got cast for Real Housewives of New Jersey.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Wait, how about that guy who went to the university
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: with her, and he's that writer. He's like in Hollywood,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: you know, is rework your story?
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: You had a lot of copy that morning. Kelly thinks
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Americans are absolute morons.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, she can rework it. She can work
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: on you know, because she wants to work on The
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Handmaid's Tale apparently or something like that, So she had
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: to try and go over there. Yeah, he's like, no problem,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: she can jump right in.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Just recult right, or is she going to become under
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: a pseudonym and start producing books on Amazon.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Well, she could do that.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, she's going to write a book. That's what
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: she's gonna do.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: She's going to there will be something out there for her.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: But like, this is where cancel culture is great, because
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: it's like we can't arrest her. Maybe, like you could
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: argue that there's like if you want to hire a lawyer,
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: and a lawyer could make an argument for like a
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: civil suit or something, maybe that's going to take a
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: shit ton of money in time and also might not
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: be fair punishment. Or you could just not hire her
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: for a job. And I think that's what's going to happen,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: and the word is out. And also I wouldn't want
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: to fucking work with her, So I'm like, okay, cool.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: How could anybody work with her?
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Now? That's like that person I was telling you all
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: about who was lying when I was in college. I
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: didn't even want to be alone with that person. They
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: would be like, Jamie, can I talk to you? And
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I'd be like not without a witness present, smart to
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: we kind of dated the same person anyway, It's a
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: whole nother whole thing. But I did not want to
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: be near that person without a lawyer present, because I
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: feel like she would have gone in the room and
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: been like, Jamie, slap my face, and people would have
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: been like, it's probably true, because again, you just tend
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: to believe when they say something has happened.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Remember when they had the doctor consultant come to the
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: writer's room and then she turned the room against him
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: because she said, that's the doctor that misdiagnosed my cancer.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: When they go that doctor probably went home. Why are
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: they mean to me?
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: That's terrible. Wait, here's what I wanted to ask you.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: So on the Vampire Diaries, that's where she was accusing
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: the director of sexual harassment. Correct, and during the me
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: too movement she jumped out and so in that article
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: she accused the director, but did she name them? Like,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: did she name the director in the art? So then
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: all right, So then.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: It was an easy line to draw about who she
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: was speaking about. Because that's why the I think it
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: was a cost the script.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: That woman who said that she texted her and then
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: yeah and then just like who dis Yeah.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Basically the text was like you've ruined everything and you've
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: broken my heart.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: It was so funny and I like you. She laughed
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: at that too. Oh my god. But so that that
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: person that called her out was like basically saying, I
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: know this isn't true. So how did she get away
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: with even that allegation? I know the Hollywood Reporter redacted
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: that and took that out of the list from twenty
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: twenty two we know that, or from the Vanity Fair
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: article wherever that was. I think it was Vanity Fair.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: So oh, how what do you mean? Like? How did
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: they print it?
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: How do they put print on paper? No, I'm kidding.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: How how did I guess? What I'm trying to say
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: is like, how did she get away with accusing this
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: person even though she didn't name them and then didn't
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: get sued even though they.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Were because there's deniability. Okay, Again, this person could have
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: said this is me. It's very clear that it's me. Right,
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: I didn't do it. I'm outing myself and I'm suing her.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Because that's what the whole Amber Johnny Depp and Amberson
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: situation was because she didn't name his name in that article,
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: but he sued her because of that. But actually I
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: think that he lost.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: He lost in the UK and then he won in
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: the US.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, but Amy, I'm saying that the director she was
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: talking about was just as fabricated as the two doctors
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: from Male Clinic, So there was no one to step
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: forward and say unless they too were a liar. Like
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: if there was a guy who directed one episode and
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: he's like, I'm going to totally cash in on this
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: and be like, it's clear she's talking about me. But
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I literally think she made up that whole story based
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: off of no one, so there's no one to suit.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: But that woman said, no, no, I know who you're
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: talking about. You need to like because.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Remember when they got the article came out, people from
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: the Vampire Diaries, including the woman that was on camera,
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: they knew exactly who she was talking about because apparently
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: that person was not just a visiting director. That's why
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: I think it was like more of like a show
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: runner kind of thing, but had the title of director.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: I thought it was just a made up story. Well
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: I it was.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: It is, But you're right, it is.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: A made up person. You're saying it was a made
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: up sorry on a real person.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's the vibe that the documentary gave me.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: It was that you know, this person was real and
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: people knew who she was talking about that worked there,
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: and and.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: He should have stud good idea.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, but like like that's that's where it gets
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: like hard with all the allegations, right, so hard and
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: expensive to actually sue somebody, but you almost have to
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: do it and bankrupt yourself to defend yourself if you
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: are in the right, you kind of have to. But yeah,
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: it sucks.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I know we need to wrap up, so.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: A lie about something and really.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: To truth and a lie.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: No, just one lie. I'm going this start.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Oh okay.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: My my childhood was fraught with clumsiness. And I was
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: riding my bicycle when I was thirteen and I crashed
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: and my pinky toe was decimated and I have only
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: nine toes now.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, wow.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Journey.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: When I was seven, I dressed as a Miss pac
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Man for Halloween and we were roasting marshmallows for some
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: reason that night, and I didn't get in the fire.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: I did, I wasn't set on fire, but for some reason,
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: my Miss pac Man costume melted into my body. And
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: so my makeup is covering up the yellow and the
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: pink bow on my head. Oh my god, I have
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: to do it every day. Underneath I'm miss pac Man.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: What's what's the kind of makeup you use?
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: It? It's a saint and I can color it.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, Emily, Emily, do you have something you want to
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: share from more?
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: I'm going to just do a little something different because
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: these are like because like, I'm not going to tell
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: a lie. I'm going to tell something so crazy that
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: you're going to think it's a lie. And that is that.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: When I was in third grade, I got called in
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: to be a part. Do you remember like when Krista
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: mcculiffe was going to the it was the Challenger and
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: I got to go meet her and we went to
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: the launch pad and we did like space camp. It
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: was crazy, and then they were going to have students
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: go up and they and so I was in the
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: running and there was like five hundred kids and I
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: got in the top ten and I was going to
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: This is so yeah, that was really good. You were like,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna tell I'm going to go a different way.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: That was really good deflection because I literally was like,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: maybe she was there.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: Now I didn't make that. That was so buddy told.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: That was the life of a kid that I grew
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: up with and we were all like, you're going to
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: go up and then and then the Challenger, as we know,
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: did not do so hot.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: And then yeah, wow so hot. That actually did very hot.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did that episode silent all these years that
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: she wrote. When she was like, I requested a private
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: writing room for that, I was like, oh, fuck yourself.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: You know, uh what about that hallway?
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: She said, that's what I want to know, and that
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: other writers there going this is my story.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Now did she did she make up putting all those
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: staff members?
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Did she make up putting the women? The wall of women?
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Did?
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Did she make that up? Was that part of her writing?
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: It was good?
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Okay because that was remember whose idea was?
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: Okay because that was that was a director's choice.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well I was sweet.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: It was brilliant, brilliant. It was really good, very good idea.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: That's a good picture.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: There's that theater girl who wanted to be on TV so.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Man, and she was really bad. She was a bad actor.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: If you could tell. She was like walking down the
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: hall and I'm like, you suck stick to writing, bitch,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: stick to making up lies. Not believable. Oh my god.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: The other thing is I'll leave it. I'm at we
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: got finched is what the writers. Writers came up with.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: They're like, we got finished to get finished. It's like, yeah,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: you know that the bits going back and forth, that's
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: just the tip of the iceberg as far as what
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: they were doing behind her back, and they had her number.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, any last thoughts before we uh say
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: bye bye. That was fine, good talk, Yeah, good job
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: you guys.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: I would like I would like to see her interviewed
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: or something, but again, it's just sometimes people like that,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: they'll never change. It's like there's no point to even
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: see her interviewed. But I'll tell you what again, don't
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: fall in love everybody. That was that was her. She
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: she let someone in and it really burned her bottom.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll do it. Thank you, Emily Theresas, Thank you
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Jamie Moyer. Everybody knows that they are the darlings of
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: the of this episode and I love you both so
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: thank you for joining.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: That's a lie.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: Drama had drama, Happy New Year.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Drama. Darling