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Allow ourselves to introduce ... ourselves · The Naked Room

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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: This is good.
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SPEAKER_02: I like this better.
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SPEAKER_02: This is the get to know you episode.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So.
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SPEAKER_02: Shall I explain?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Go for it.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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This episode is brought to you by no one because we don't have
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sponsors yet.
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SPEAKER_02: However.
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We thought that a great way to get to know each other more and
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for our audience to
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SPEAKER_02: get to know us would be to ask each other a series of questions.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: We've written these on our own away from each other.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Neither one of us knows.
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SPEAKER_02: Secret.
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SPEAKER_00: And Jamie Lynn and I have known each other.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm Kelly.
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SPEAKER_00: Kelly Garthwaite.
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SPEAKER_00: Jamie Lynn.
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SPEAKER_00: Fincham.
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SPEAKER_00: And I have known each other for 12.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Almost 13 years.
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SPEAKER_00: Almost 13.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And so we know a lot about each other,
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SPEAKER_00: but it's going to be interesting to see what we wrote for each other.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, for sure.
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SPEAKER_00: Like most of the stuff that I wrote on here,
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like,
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SPEAKER_00: there's a couple of questions where I feel like I know the answer.
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SPEAKER_00: But then other ones where I'm like, we haven't talked about that before.
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SPEAKER_00: And you have some incredible stories.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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Now I'm nervous as to what questions you,
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this is going to be,
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this is good.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm excited we're doing.
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SPEAKER_00: Me too.
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SPEAKER_00: Me too.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'm getting sweaty.
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SPEAKER_02: The only prompt,
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SPEAKER_02: or I guess it wasn't even a prompt that I gave you,
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SPEAKER_02: but the only,
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SPEAKER_02: the only insight that I gave you into the questions that I wrote,
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SPEAKER_02: I said I would do five or six questions.
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And I said that some of them were serious and potentially
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relating to female health,
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but
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Because we do want that to be part of the focus of this podcast
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because it's one of
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SPEAKER_02: the things that we feel like doesn't have enough attention.
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But we don't want it to primarily rest on that subject alone
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because there's just
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SPEAKER_02: so much else that needs to be discussed that would be about womanhood,
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SPEAKER_00: about womanhood,
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SPEAKER_00: about like from a millennial perspective and beyond and beyond.
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SPEAKER_02: I yeah,
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the only insight I gave you was that maybe a couple of those
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questions would be in
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SPEAKER_02: that arena,
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SPEAKER_02: but that there were some wild cards and that there's one.
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SPEAKER_02: You said you worried if your questions might be too PG.
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SPEAKER_02: And I said,
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SPEAKER_02: I do have one that's not really PG,
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SPEAKER_00: but I might have to amend based on whatever you ask me.
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SPEAKER_01: No dress code.
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SPEAKER_01: No rules.
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SPEAKER_01: Just B-Y-O-U.
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SPEAKER_01: It's time to tell society that it's a taboo.
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SPEAKER_01: You can be the you-est you here in the naked room.
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SPEAKER_00: Should we go back and forth?
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SPEAKER_00: Do you want to go first?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we can go back and forth.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going to start off strong with this one, Kelly.
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SPEAKER_02: Fuck, marry, kill.
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SPEAKER_02: Liam Neeson, Sam Elliott, or Harry Styles?
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SPEAKER_00: Holy shit.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I can't believe you.
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SPEAKER_00: I was like, okay.
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SPEAKER_00: I was thinking about our other friend who's obsessed with Harry Styles.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, Jamie Lynn's not obsessed with Harry Styles in the same way.
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SPEAKER_00: But that, oh my God.
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I can't believe that you asked this because I was legit this
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close to asking you.
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SPEAKER_00: This is so funny.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, what's funny is that you say we know each other really well.
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But when I knew from the from the bat that I wanted to ask you
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this question,
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SPEAKER_02: because I feel like it tells you so much about somebody.
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SPEAKER_02: It was interesting to try to come up with three people.
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SPEAKER_02: I almost tossed a woman in there, too, just for shits and giggles.
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SPEAKER_02: But like,
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it was interesting to come up with three that I thought would
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actually be a
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SPEAKER_02: challenge for you.
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SPEAKER_02: And I have to say that prior I changed Harry Styles.
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SPEAKER_02: It was Benson Boone because I have the hots for him.
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SPEAKER_02: But I didn't know if you know that makes sense.
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yeah no i know i know because of the well before the coachella
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performance that he
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did but the thing that bothered me the most about that
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performance is that the
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audience didn't know who the actual queen member was did you
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see that no yeah he
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brought out brian may and nobody reacted everyone was like
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everyone was like oh my
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SPEAKER_02: god and then benson boone's like brian may from from queen and
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probably still there was a group of i can imagine in the
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coachella audience that
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was like what who's queen my mom has a shirt that says that
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yeah i also have a
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shirt that says that because yeah i have a shirt because that's
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popular right now
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to wear band tees of bands that i've never heard of this is
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great so far we're
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we're not even fully into our first question okay so then i
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repeat to you fuck mary
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kill liam neeson sam elliot harry styles kelly garthwaite what
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is your answer okay
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SPEAKER_00: so
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Every single person who's like 50 plus at this point says that
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my husband looks
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SPEAKER_00: like a young Sam Elliott.
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So I guess I'm going to marry Sam Elliott because I'm already
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married to young Sam Elliott.
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SPEAKER_00: That's so true.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I would definitely fuck Harry Styles of those three.
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SPEAKER_00: And then I guess I would kill Liam Neeson.
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SPEAKER_00: He's kind of asking for it.
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SPEAKER_00: I guess.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, his roles have definitely been... Oh, it's so hard.
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SPEAKER_02: But I do love him.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: He seems so sweet.
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SPEAKER_02: And then he has that movie coming out.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's like he's back in the... You know, he's like back in the saddle.
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SPEAKER_02: And so I feel like we're seeing a lot of him and he just seems so sweet.
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SPEAKER_00: I have no hate for him whatsoever.
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SPEAKER_00: But it's because of the other two options.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Which is the nature of this beast.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Because...
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Harry Styles is an amazing performer I've seen him twice and he
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I can see why
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Olivia Wilde was like peace yeah peace out I'm gonna go I know
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she's like head
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SPEAKER_00: lasso I can't believe it god
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brings a tear to my eye i find him really attractive now too
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anyway we could go
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down that all right so okay yeah then your turn let's go back
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and forth that told
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me a lot about you although i have to say it was hard to hold
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back my comments so i
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guess i'll do it now i was like interesting about marrying sam
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elliott because i'm
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like did you eventually because i don't you know it's like were
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you eventually were
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SPEAKER_02: you originally attracted to curtis because of the way he looked
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SPEAKER_02: Or because of the way he was like his personality.
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SPEAKER_02: Obviously, now you love both.
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But it's interesting because it's like I almost feel like you'd
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want to fuck Sam
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SPEAKER_02: Elliott and Mary Liam Neeson.
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SPEAKER_02: That would have been my guess.
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SPEAKER_02: Sorry, Mary.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, but then you would have had to kill Harry Styles.
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SPEAKER_02: You made a good choice.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm going to try to not hang on it too long.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Because that one, yeah, it is a little, that was a rough one.
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SPEAKER_00: It really was.
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SPEAKER_00: Because honestly, Liam Neeson is awesome.
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SPEAKER_00: He's great.
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SPEAKER_02: It's about a very special set of skills.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: He does.
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SPEAKER_00: He has a special set of skills.
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SPEAKER_00: Can you tell me your first kiss story?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_00: This is...
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this is good okay so i guess i have two and i i feel like does
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everybody have two
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like do you have your first like you know like little peck kiss
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that might have
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happened and then like your first real kiss my technical first
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kiss was at a like a
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kissing party like we did oh my god in the bottle how old were
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you like 12 and
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there was like the like the tip of the tongue and then everyone
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got like or
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everyone two of us both of us were like oh my god because there
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were people who
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SPEAKER_00: were watching yeah so that was technically my first kiss
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SPEAKER_00: This guy, Jeremy.
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SPEAKER_00: And you just did tongue tips?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And we both got freaked out.
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SPEAKER_00: We're like, oh, what's that?
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SPEAKER_00: We're going to get mono.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: So I guess mine's a two-part story.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'm going to take you back to kindergarten and the bus trip.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty sure this little man asked permission to give me a kiss.
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SPEAKER_02: And I think I must have said yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Chivalry is not dead.
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SPEAKER_02: At least not in kindergarten.
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SPEAKER_02: Not in kindergarten.
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SPEAKER_02: He gave me a little peck on the lips.
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SPEAKER_02: And that was considered my first kiss.
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SPEAKER_02: I do remember getting off of the bus, walking home.
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SPEAKER_02: Telling my mother and her thinking it was really sweet.
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But then she told me that she wanted me to tell my dad who was
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in the bathroom
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SPEAKER_02: getting ready for work at the time.
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SPEAKER_02: He's a musician.
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SPEAKER_02: So he was like it was the evening and he was getting ready to leave.
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And I just remember having like paralyzing anxiety to tell my
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dad that I that a boy
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SPEAKER_02: kissed me on the bus.
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SPEAKER_02: And I can't remember if at that age it was because I was,
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SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: worried he was going to hurt him.
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I don't think that had even,
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like,
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developed yet where I felt like he was,
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like,
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protective.
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SPEAKER_02: But I think I just felt,
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know,
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SPEAKER_02: maybe it's that age where you're so young that your dad is,
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SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: your sweet,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: your dad's your sweetheart.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, it's your dad, your daddy.
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SPEAKER_02: And I feel like that another boy,
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SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: gave me a little kiss was,
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SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: so,
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SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: I felt like I,
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SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: betrayed my father or something.
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at that age and he didn't have like any sort of negative
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reaction like i think he
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was just like oh really so that would have been my first little
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peck my real first
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kiss boy these are really good let me take you to the uh the
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hillside of the
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SPEAKER_02: walmart in fairmont west virginia
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SPEAKER_02: I was 14 and I went to a lock-in that was at this big,
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SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: there was this church a few towns over.
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SPEAKER_02: It was like a big warehouse or something.
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SPEAKER_02: I can't remember what they called it.
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SPEAKER_02: The faculty?
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SPEAKER_02: The factory?
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SPEAKER_02: Were you actually locked in?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, it's interesting you ask.
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SPEAKER_02: What if there's a fire?
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SPEAKER_02: Interesting you ask that, Kelly.
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So...
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SPEAKER_02: We, this place was actually pretty rad for where I grew up.
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SPEAKER_02: So they had like a rock wall inside.
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They had a band that played like all these songs that were hits
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that you would
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SPEAKER_02: know,
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SPEAKER_02: except they changed the words to make them Christian.
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SPEAKER_02: I remember a lot of REM songs being changed.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: It's very interesting.
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But you give me physical activities like rock climbing and live
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music,
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no matter the genre.
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SPEAKER_02: Apparently at age 14, no matter my religion, I was there.
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SPEAKER_02: I went to this lock-in and I had just won a pair...
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SPEAKER_02: Do you remember Hot Topic?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I was born in 83.
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SPEAKER_02: You and I both have a, I'm sure had many a Hot Topic outfit.
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SPEAKER_02: So at 14,
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I was probably getting to that age where I like had I started
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having a style and
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SPEAKER_02: there were certain things I really wanted to like wear.
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So we were at Hot Topic or at the mall one day and there was a
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pair of silver pants
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SPEAKER_02: and I saw them hanging as they did in Hot Topic.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was like, I have to have those.
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SPEAKER_02: They were like silver pleather, like tight pants, like skinny jeans.
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SPEAKER_02: And I came home and I guess I probably didn't stop talking about them.
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SPEAKER_02: And my dad was like, I'll challenge you to a game of Uno.
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SPEAKER_02: If you win the game of Uno, then I will buy the pants for you.
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SPEAKER_00: I love that.
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SPEAKER_02: And I won the game of Uno, which he probably let me win, I feel.
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SPEAKER_02: But that was just his jam.
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SPEAKER_02: So I had these silver pants, super excited, wore them to this lock-in.
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SPEAKER_02: A boy came up to me and said, I can see myself in your pants.
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SPEAKER_02: And, you know, that really got me, I guess.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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the rest was history no we the rest was history history we
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snuck out of the um
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lock-in it was myself this boy who was who was 17 he was older
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than me his friend
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and then my friend that i came with so she kind of you know as
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as it happens kind
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SPEAKER_02: of became the
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SPEAKER_02: the interest of the other friend.
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SPEAKER_02: So the four of us, these boys talked us into sneaking out.
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SPEAKER_02: And so I don't even remember how we did it.
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We went out some sort of back door or somebody distracted
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somebody and we went out
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SPEAKER_02: and within walking distance from this church was the Walmart.
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So our big outing was that we walked to a Walmart and walked
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around and sat on like
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SPEAKER_02: the hillside near Walmart.
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SPEAKER_02: And he leaned over and he French kissed me.
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SPEAKER_02: And then shortly after that,
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SPEAKER_02: a four-wheeler or a quad,
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SPEAKER_02: if you will,
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SPEAKER_02: depending on where you come from,
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SPEAKER_02: an ATV pulled up and was yelling at us and was like,
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SPEAKER_02: you got to get on and go now.
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SPEAKER_00: The ATV was yelling at you?
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SPEAKER_02: The ATV was screaming.
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SPEAKER_02: It was a Suzuki.
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SPEAKER_02: It sounded terrible.
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SPEAKER_00: No,
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SPEAKER_02: the person on the ATV was yelling at us and took us back to the,
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I think there must have been a couple because they took us all
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back to the lock-in.
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SPEAKER_02: And I had to tell my parents that I got kicked out.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm pretty sure that I got grounded for an entire year.
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SPEAKER_02: What?
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SPEAKER_02: 365 days.
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SPEAKER_00: How can you actually follow through with that as a parent?
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SPEAKER_02: I was a good kid,
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SPEAKER_02: so I think it was probably more about the fact that,
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SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: I stuck to the rules.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, they didn't have to, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: You grounded yourself.
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, okay, I guess so.
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The only part of it that I fought back against is that they
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took my guitar away.
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SPEAKER_02: And my dad said,
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if you write a three-page essay on why you did what you did and
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why you shouldn't
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SPEAKER_02: have and why you're sorry and why you want your guitar back,
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SPEAKER_02: then I'll give you your guitar back.
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SPEAKER_02: You should have just written hormones.
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SPEAKER_02: Hormones.
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SPEAKER_02: Teenager.
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SPEAKER_02: That's it, dad.
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SPEAKER_02: Don't you understand?
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SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that's my first kiss story.
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SPEAKER_00: Damn.
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SPEAKER_00: That doesn't surprise me at all that it's some epic thing.
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SPEAKER_00: Some ridiculous thing.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: My second question for you,
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SPEAKER_02: and I actually know,
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SPEAKER_02: I think I know the answer to this unless you finished it,
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but I feel like you're so passionate about it that I really
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wanted you to talk
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SPEAKER_02: about it some more because we haven't had a chance to discuss it.
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SPEAKER_02: Kelly, what are you reading right now?
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SPEAKER_00: Menopausing.
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SPEAKER_00: As you pause.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm very big on nonfiction.
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SPEAKER_00: I've been trying to sprinkle in fiction here and there,
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but I really just like to absorb lots of new information and
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have something
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SPEAKER_00: interesting to talk about at cocktail parties,
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SPEAKER_00: honestly.
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SPEAKER_00: And menopause.
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SPEAKER_00: We all go through it.
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SPEAKER_00: It's cool.
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SPEAKER_02: I remember when you first told me about that book,
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SPEAKER_02: you said that it was recommended to you actually by a man.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And you read it with his wife.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: When she was going through menopause, which I thought, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: I think she's perimenopausal because they're mid-40s.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Perimenopausal, just understanding how to prepare.
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There's a lot of information about hormone replacement therapy
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because the person who wrote it.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Is really big on HRT.
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SPEAKER_00: And there's a co-author who's a doctor.
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SPEAKER_00: So there's a lot of medical information in there,
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SPEAKER_00: but it's broken down in this way that's super approachable.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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And there's also lots of like,
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it's not pictures,
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but there's just like huge...
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SPEAKER_00: I love it because it's a picture book.
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SPEAKER_00: I create my, I like make the book up based on my imagination.
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No,
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there's pages where there's just like in really big text facts
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and stats.
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SPEAKER_00: And I love that because it's super digestible.
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SPEAKER_00: It feels like it was written for the social media age.
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SPEAKER_02: I like that.
14:36
SPEAKER_02: I just I read a book recently that was very much like that.
14:39
SPEAKER_02: It was like a mix of art from the author, Florence Given.
14:42
SPEAKER_02: She wrote this book called Women Living Deliciously.
14:44
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
14:45
SPEAKER_02: And it's just like a decadent book.
14:47
SPEAKER_02: It's so the work like everything about it is colorful and vibrant.
14:52
SPEAKER_02: I listened to it as I read it,
14:54
SPEAKER_02: actually,
14:54
SPEAKER_02: because I originally was like,
14:56
I'm just going to listen to it just because I was in the car a
14:58
lot of the time or
14:59
SPEAKER_02: something.
15:00
SPEAKER_02: But then I saw the book, I think, online.
15:03
SPEAKER_02: It's like a picture book almost.
15:04
SPEAKER_02: It's like so cool.
15:05
SPEAKER_02: And all the art that she does that goes along with,
15:10
SPEAKER_02: you know,
15:10
SPEAKER_02: with the book that she's written is just beautiful.
15:14
SPEAKER_00: Wait, now it's my turn.
15:16
SPEAKER_00: It's your turn.
15:17
SPEAKER_00: I just realized it's your turn.
15:18
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
15:19
SPEAKER_00: I already know the answer to this one.
15:21
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you do?
15:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I want other people to know.
15:24
SPEAKER_00: And maybe we can talk about it in another episode.
15:29
SPEAKER_00: Mom or aunt?
15:31
SPEAKER_00: Oh, for me.
15:32
SPEAKER_00: Like, do I want to be a mom or not?
15:33
SPEAKER_02: What's your identity?
15:34
SPEAKER_02: What are you picking?
15:34
SPEAKER_02: I'm definitely the fun auntie.
15:36
SPEAKER_02: Like, I would even take it a step.
15:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm the font.
15:38
SPEAKER_02: And I feel like maybe less so recently.
15:42
SPEAKER_02: I feel like I've settled a little.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: But I do think that.
15:47
SPEAKER_02: For the most part,
15:48
all of my friends who have kids who like consider me auntie and
15:52
then my own niece,
15:54
SPEAKER_02: who obviously considers me auntie,
15:56
SPEAKER_02: I think that.
15:59
SPEAKER_02: I'll definitely have that role of, like, where is she now?
16:03
SPEAKER_02: Oh, what's she doing now?
16:04
SPEAKER_02: Like, how does she even have what?
16:06
SPEAKER_02: Hopefully someday says, how does she even have all that money?
16:09
SPEAKER_02: That's not the case now.
16:11
SPEAKER_02: But I think that,
16:12
SPEAKER_02: yeah,
16:13
SPEAKER_02: like,
16:13
SPEAKER_02: I love being able to come in and just fill in the blanks,
16:17
SPEAKER_02: like,
16:17
SPEAKER_02: here and there.
16:19
SPEAKER_02: And I love, like, leaving little, like...
16:24
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't say they're like rebellious nuggets of wisdom,
16:28
SPEAKER_02: but like I know for my sister Michelle,
16:31
SPEAKER_02: she has Ophelia.
16:33
And I remember one of the first gifts that I gave her was this
16:36
tiny little backpack
16:37
SPEAKER_02: and I sharpied something inside of it because I was like,
16:40
SPEAKER_02: I want to leave this little legacy for her.
16:44
SPEAKER_02: I want her to like,
16:45
I know that my mom and my sister and like the people that are
16:48
in her life daily
16:49
SPEAKER_02: because we don't live near each other.
16:51
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we do now kind of close, but still we're hours away.
16:54
But for the longest time up until I moved to Virginia,
16:57
I was always far,
16:59
far away.
16:59
SPEAKER_02: I didn't really get to see her that much.
17:01
SPEAKER_02: And so in my mind,
17:02
SPEAKER_02: I'm like,
17:03
she already has the people in her life who are going to create
17:06
this like...
17:07
this nearby closeness and stability and routine and structure
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for her and I want to
17:13
be that little wild essence that she because I know that she'll
17:16
have that in her
17:17
because she's part Fincham so I want to be that that guiding
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light for her in that
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SPEAKER_02: aspect oh I kind of want to take a train and go do my own thing for like
17:28
a year and i want her to be like i'll call auntie jamie lynn
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and she'll know what
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to do or she'll know how to like guide you through that and or
17:34
she can visit you on
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parts of the trip yeah exactly so i think it's like it has that
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that part of it and
17:40
SPEAKER_02: then yeah just the part of the part of i mean i'm gonna be 40 and
17:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, biologically.
17:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
17:45
SPEAKER_02: it's like not that it's impossible,
17:47
but I just think that you and I have talked about this before
17:50
where I've had so
17:51
SPEAKER_02: many friends over the years.
17:53
Like I've seen my friends and the women in my life like two
17:56
different ways.
17:57
I've either had the friends who were like,
17:58
I want nothing more than to be a mom.
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SPEAKER_02: Like it's like what I want.
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SPEAKER_02: That's my dream.
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SPEAKER_02: That's all I see for myself.
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SPEAKER_02: And then they do it and they get it and it's good.
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SPEAKER_02: And I have friends who also –
18:10
SPEAKER_02: feel like they don't even like children.
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SPEAKER_02: Like they just,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: it's like,
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SPEAKER_02: oh,
18:13
SPEAKER_02: and they end up becoming a mom,
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SPEAKER_02: maybe not even by,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: like plan.
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SPEAKER_02: And that ignites that thing in them where they're like,
18:21
SPEAKER_02: oh,
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SPEAKER_02: like I,
18:22
SPEAKER_02: you know,
18:23
SPEAKER_02: I didn't even know I wanted this,
18:25
SPEAKER_02: but now I'm like,
18:26
SPEAKER_02: this is like my life and I love it.
18:28
SPEAKER_02: And I've, I've just not ever had that burning desire.
18:31
SPEAKER_02: I literally have two
18:33
car seats sitting in my spare bedroom right now from a friend
18:37
that i'm helping her
18:38
sell and i don't walk past those and feel this like emptiness
18:41
like oh i wish those
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like i might feel like i want to get another puppy but like and
18:46
that's kind of
18:46
crazy because these dogs are a handful but yeah i don't think i
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think that i've
18:50
SPEAKER_02: definitely for sure chosen the fonti role
18:53
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
18:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I get that.
18:57
SPEAKER_00: I knew that answer already, but I just felt like we should talk about it.
19:01
SPEAKER_00: Dive into it.
19:02
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: What is your perfect day?
19:06
SPEAKER_02: What does your perfect day look like?
19:09
SPEAKER_02: April 20th.
19:09
SPEAKER_00: Shout out Miss Congeniality.
19:14
SPEAKER_00: So good.
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SPEAKER_00: What a gem, that movie.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: My perfect day.
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SPEAKER_00: Like a perfect day or a date?
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SPEAKER_02: I think a day.
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SPEAKER_02: Like for me, I think about like what are the elements of a day that –
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SPEAKER_02: that you hope each day has,
19:33
SPEAKER_02: or even if it's like future thought,
19:36
like maybe there are things in your life that we've manifested
19:39
that don't exist
19:40
SPEAKER_02: now,
19:40
SPEAKER_02: but like if those are in your life,
19:42
SPEAKER_02: what does that day look like?
19:43
SPEAKER_02: What will fulfill you mentally, physically, spiritually, sexually?
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Like what are all the things in the day that would be that hit
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all the marks?
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SPEAKER_00: I definitely...
19:56
SPEAKER_00: I like to exist in a sense of calmness.
20:00
So like a grounded,
20:02
some kind of a groundedness practice,
20:04
mindfulness practice.
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I want to be connected to nature in some way every single day,
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even if it's just...
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SPEAKER_00: Like I live in Los Angeles.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm here in Virginia right now.
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But fortunately,
20:15
I live in a place that's not super crowded in Los Angeles.
20:19
SPEAKER_00: But like there's a community garden that's walking distance.
20:22
SPEAKER_00: I have a bed in there.
20:23
SPEAKER_00: So I want to go and connect with Mother Nature.
20:26
SPEAKER_00: I love my plants on my porch.
20:28
SPEAKER_00: I get so much enjoyment out of that.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: Some of my plants are there.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
20:32
SPEAKER_00: Some of your plants are there.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: I know.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: We inherited.
20:34
SPEAKER_00: That's how I am an aunt.
20:36
SPEAKER_00: You're the faunty to my plants.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so everyone's like, save your money.
20:40
SPEAKER_00: Don't go buy coffee every day.
20:41
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I think I'm going to go get my daily...
20:44
oat latte yeah that's your joy there's yeah there's a lot of
20:48
joy in that my husband
20:49
and I started in the pandemic we set this president's
20:52
precedence of going to we
20:55
were living in a condo and we didn't have an outdoor space and
20:58
so we would get in
20:59
the car with our dog because we had to go walk every day with
21:02
her so in the
21:03
afternoons we would go and find a local coffee shop put her put
21:07
her masks on go in
21:08
SPEAKER_00: the local coffee shop
21:09
And then walk around a new neighborhood because we needed a
21:12
change of scenery so
21:13
SPEAKER_00: that our brains didn't start to melt.
21:16
SPEAKER_00: So doing something simple like that is really nice.
21:19
SPEAKER_00: I do want to dedicate more time to just sitting down and reading,
21:22
SPEAKER_00: not right before bedtime only,
21:24
SPEAKER_00: because that's what I've been doing recently.
21:27
SPEAKER_00: Um,
21:27
SPEAKER_00: I love this idea of reading like 35 to 50 books a year,
21:31
SPEAKER_00: but I'm,
21:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm basically like one a month.
21:33
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I've read that many in my entire life.
21:35
SPEAKER_02: I have started 10 times that, but it's like, I don't, I have book ADD.
21:45
SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
21:45
I think maybe it's a matter of just finding one that sucks you
21:48
in pretty quickly
21:49
SPEAKER_00: because then you're like,
21:50
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to go be in this closet by myself and no one talk to me.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to hold up.
21:55
SPEAKER_00: Also, like a live music element is nice.
21:58
SPEAKER_00: Like if there's a show to look forward to.
22:01
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, a perfect day overall is kind of basic.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: I don't feel like I really need a lot.
22:07
SPEAKER_00: It's more about the mental component of being able to feel really,
22:12
SPEAKER_00: oh,
22:12
SPEAKER_00: I guess like going to the gym or something like that.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: So I feel relaxed at the end of the day.
22:18
I feel like I can sit down and have a dry cider or something
22:23
and it just like hits
22:24
SPEAKER_00: in the like best way.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:26
SPEAKER_02: I love that feeling,
22:27
SPEAKER_02: especially if you've done something like physical,
22:28
SPEAKER_02: like you went to the gym and you're like,
22:30
SPEAKER_02: I earned this.
22:30
SPEAKER_02: I don't even feel bad about like,
22:32
SPEAKER_02: not that you should feel bad about having a cider here and there,
22:34
SPEAKER_02: but you know what I mean?
22:35
Well,
22:35
and I'm at a point where I'm not,
22:38
I used to obsess about calories and losing weight.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, I want to feel comfortable in my body overall.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: And I think the most important component for me is strength.
22:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:49
SPEAKER_00: So it's mental strength, physical strength.
22:51
SPEAKER_00: I just want to feel strong going into aging.
22:56
And,
22:57
you know,
22:57
being 42,
22:58
I'm not very old at this point,
23:01
but I'm trying to set myself up for
23:04
um aging more gracefully yeah by lifting weights and doing not
23:09
heavy weights i'm
23:09
not in there like doing got the sweat band on yeah exactly
23:14
weight belt yeah i'm not
23:15
like i'm bench pressing 365 no i i don't i haven't even bench
23:20
pressed in forever
23:21
but it's just about finding balance i think so um so that's not
23:27
that exciting but
23:29
SPEAKER_00: Hey, it's harder to come by sometimes than it really is.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
23:34
SPEAKER_00: We all have cortisol in our bodies,
23:36
SPEAKER_00: especially now because everything feels so up and down and uncertain.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: And there's a 24 hour news cycle.
23:42
SPEAKER_00: And it's it's so much for us to have to contend with and digest.
23:47
Yeah,
23:47
we have to figure out how to tune out and turn off and just go
23:52
be with Mother Nature.
23:53
SPEAKER_00: And and we also really have to keep our strength.
24:00
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
24:01
SPEAKER_00: So you asked me something that was a little bit more like heady.
24:07
SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to ask you, Jamie Lynn is turning 40 in October.
24:12
So what's one habit you want to keep and one you want to leave
24:17
in the last decade
24:18
SPEAKER_00: as you go into the new decade?
24:20
SPEAKER_02: That's a good one.
24:21
SPEAKER_02: I feel like I just,
24:23
I did something similar like this when I graduated and got my
24:28
yoga certification.
24:29
SPEAKER_02: This was a similar question that they asked a little bit,
24:33
SPEAKER_02: but now I'm trying to think of even what I,
24:34
SPEAKER_02: I think,
24:37
SPEAKER_02: I think when I answered that,
24:41
It was more of it was less of a habit and it was more of like
24:45
something you don't
24:46
SPEAKER_02: want to carry with you.
24:47
SPEAKER_02: Like it was very broad and like baggage baggage.
24:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:51
SPEAKER_02: And I do remember my answer to that was having a.
24:56
Having self-doubt specifically about the fact that I don't have
25:01
a formal education,
25:02
SPEAKER_02: like in the traditional sense.
25:04
SPEAKER_02: Like I've done all of these trade schools and I,
25:06
SPEAKER_02: you know,
25:07
have an esthetician license and yoga certification and can work
25:11
on diesel engines
25:12
SPEAKER_02: and things like that.
25:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're multifaceted though.
25:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
25:15
SPEAKER_02: but I don't have like what still seems so important in the job industry,
25:20
SPEAKER_02: which is like a bachelor's degree.
25:21
And so it always has weighed on me to the point where I
25:25
actually probably still
25:26
SPEAKER_02: haven't completely let it go.
25:27
SPEAKER_02: Because I always say that if I had like,
25:30
SPEAKER_02: you know,
25:30
SPEAKER_02: disposable income,
25:31
SPEAKER_02: I probably would just go to school to like be an engineer.
25:35
SPEAKER_02: I would just enjoy doing that because I just love learning.
25:37
SPEAKER_02: But not to derail.
25:40
SPEAKER_02: So from habits...
25:42
If there was one that I could keep and one that I could leave
25:45
behind going into turning 40.
25:47
SPEAKER_02: It's interesting because I feel like.
25:54
SPEAKER_02: I think being somebody that usually does like get prepared for something,
26:00
I've felt like I started making changes kind of as though I was
26:04
40 just in the last
26:06
SPEAKER_02: like few months.
26:07
SPEAKER_02: I've been like, okay, that's coming.
26:09
SPEAKER_02: So how do I prepare?
26:11
SPEAKER_02: And I think in doing that, I have definitely...
26:17
made it a habit to protect my peace that's been that's become
26:22
such an important
26:23
thing to me especially as like a people pleaser and as somebody
26:26
who's like a I'd
26:27
SPEAKER_02: consider myself like a giver and a helper and a doer and
26:33
SPEAKER_02: I think in decades past,
26:35
I definitely let it get like ahead of I let it get away from me
26:39
to where I just
26:39
SPEAKER_02: like took that on as my identity.
26:42
SPEAKER_02: And so then other people took it on as my identity, which makes sense.
26:46
Like that's how I presented myself to the world was like,
26:48
do you need something?
26:49
SPEAKER_02: I'm here.
26:49
SPEAKER_02: I can help you.
26:50
SPEAKER_02: Resonates so much.
26:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:52
SPEAKER_02: And so then it got to a point where.
26:54
SPEAKER_02: It just outgrew me to where I felt like I don't identify as that.
27:00
SPEAKER_02: It's not that I don't identify as that anymore,
27:02
SPEAKER_02: but I just have felt like my time for myself,
27:07
SPEAKER_02: with myself,
27:08
and with my little family has become so much more important and
27:12
so much more
27:13
SPEAKER_02: important.
27:14
is necessary that that is it's prioritized and it's become you
27:20
know something that
27:21
I want to make sure that I'm always putting first and then if I
27:24
have that not to be
27:26
super cliche but that cup filled or that oxygen mask on then I
27:30
feel like okay if
27:31
I've done all those things and at the end of the day or the end
27:34
of the week or
27:35
SPEAKER_02: whatever there I still have something to give then I
27:39
I will go and I will help you with this thing or I would be
27:43
delighted to offer my
27:44
SPEAKER_02: services to do this.
27:45
SPEAKER_02: But in the past,
27:47
SPEAKER_02: when I was younger,
27:48
SPEAKER_02: it was definitely like,
27:49
SPEAKER_02: well,
27:49
SPEAKER_02: let me go do that thing because it's what I'm good at.
27:52
SPEAKER_02: It's what somebody needs and it'll probably fill my cup up.
27:56
It sounds like the dogs just absolutely wrecked the house
28:01
upstairs,
28:02
like knocked over the TV.
28:04
SPEAKER_02: I don't even know what that was, but they're also really big dogs.
28:08
SPEAKER_02: That's just walking.
28:09
SPEAKER_00: That's just walking.
28:10
SPEAKER_00: That's so funny.
28:12
So I think that's a habit I guess I want to continue to track
28:15
because it's not easy.
28:16
SPEAKER_02: It's been like a tough...
28:19
change to make to when my knee jerk reaction when somebody asks
28:23
me to help with
28:24
something is like well of course yes i'll be there when you
28:26
need me and to right
28:27
now yeah yeah right like rewiring myself to to act like it
28:33
sounds so stupid but
28:34
it's like rewiring myself to ask myself do you want to do that
28:40
is what are the
28:41
other things that you could do with that time or that you
28:43
should do with that time
28:45
That will set you up for success so that you then have a bigger
28:50
part of yourself to
28:51
offer to that cause or whatever it is instead of just going and
28:54
giving whatever's
28:55
SPEAKER_02: left of you to help.
28:57
SPEAKER_02: And then it,
28:59
SPEAKER_02: you know,
29:00
comes back to bite me in the ass because I'm like overly
29:02
exhausted and I feel like
29:03
SPEAKER_02: I put something off that I should have been doing or whatever.
29:05
SPEAKER_02: you know, even resentment.
29:06
I might feel a little resentful that I like went and did this
29:09
thing and didn't take
29:10
SPEAKER_02: care of myself first.
29:10
So that's definitely a habit I want to try to continue and
29:16
build on so that it's
29:18
just more natural and not so much work every time for me to sit
29:23
with myself and
29:24
SPEAKER_02: work through the process of telling myself that I deserve to
29:29
SPEAKER_02: fill my cup first or whatever it might be.
29:32
SPEAKER_02: And then if there's a habit that I want to... So yeah, I don't know.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: That's weird.
29:36
SPEAKER_02: Am I getting rid of... That's a twofold.
29:38
SPEAKER_02: I guess I just did.
29:39
SPEAKER_02: I'm getting rid of... I'm keeping one.
29:41
SPEAKER_02: I'm getting rid of another.
29:42
SPEAKER_02: I think it can be twofold.
29:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
29:44
SPEAKER_02: So I guess in summary, it would be habit that I want to...
29:49
SPEAKER_02: To get rid of is,
29:51
SPEAKER_02: yeah,
29:51
SPEAKER_02: knee-jerk reaction to helping and being like of service to people,
29:57
SPEAKER_02: feeling like that's who I am as a person.
30:00
SPEAKER_02: And so it has to be my first like priority.
30:03
So I want to try to get rid of that and work more towards,
30:08
you know,
30:08
putting myself first.
30:10
SPEAKER_02: It sounds so selfish, but I'm trying to get better at it.
30:12
SPEAKER_00: No, it's not.
30:13
SPEAKER_00: It's not because you can't –
30:15
You can't give to other people fully unless you are giving to
30:19
yourself first.
30:20
SPEAKER_02: It's so true.
30:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:22
And I think maybe it's that I feel like I just need more as
30:25
I've gotten older than
30:26
SPEAKER_02: I did when I was younger and I was so quick to be like the helper.
30:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:31
SPEAKER_02: And now I feel like I need so much more,
30:33
SPEAKER_02: like,
30:33
SPEAKER_02: introspective time and,
30:35
SPEAKER_02: like,
30:35
SPEAKER_02: you know,
30:36
SPEAKER_02: all the things that,
30:37
SPEAKER_02: like,
30:38
SPEAKER_02: I enjoy doing,
30:39
SPEAKER_02: like,
30:40
SPEAKER_02: writing music or,
30:41
SPEAKER_02: you know,
30:42
SPEAKER_02: creating.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: It takes a lot of empty time by myself.
30:49
SPEAKER_02: And I think that there's sometimes a habit to fill that time.
30:57
SPEAKER_02: And I am trying to get better about just...
31:02
being grateful for big empty spaces of time where I can kind of
31:05
create at my own
31:07
SPEAKER_02: pace and not feel like,
31:09
SPEAKER_02: okay,
31:09
SPEAKER_02: I have an hour,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
31:11
carved out today where I can sit down with my guitar and like
31:14
work on that song I
31:15
SPEAKER_02: started six months ago,
31:16
SPEAKER_02: you know,
31:17
SPEAKER_02: and just really being like,
31:18
SPEAKER_02: today is just a day where I'm going to pick that thing up and write.
31:21
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to put it down.
31:22
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to have some lunch.
31:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to come back to it.
31:24
And if somebody needs something,
31:26
I'm not going to say,
31:27
oh,
31:27
well,
31:27
I do have the time.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going to,
31:29
Tell myself that this day is for me and that just because I
31:33
have the free time
31:34
SPEAKER_02: doesn't mean I don't need that time to just be.
31:37
SPEAKER_00: We're wired for productivity.
31:39
SPEAKER_00: For sure.
31:40
SPEAKER_00: And with being a people pleaser, it's like a double whammy kind of.
31:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:45
SPEAKER_00: We're, yeah.
31:47
SPEAKER_00: I'm in the same headspace that you are.
31:49
SPEAKER_00: I know this was a question that I asked you, but.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: I do the same to you.
31:53
SPEAKER_00: I want to answer it too.
31:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
31:56
SPEAKER_00: Next time we switch questions.
31:59
SPEAKER_00: I'm in exactly the same headspace though,
32:01
because I feel like even if I just have like one random call on
32:05
my calendar,
32:06
SPEAKER_00: it's
32:07
Sometimes I get anxious about it because I'm like,
32:10
but I really wanted a full day of no plans.
32:13
SPEAKER_00: I want to know.
32:14
SPEAKER_00: And I know that that's very privileged.
32:16
SPEAKER_02: I think it's also the type of people that you and I are.
32:19
SPEAKER_02: It's because I've not really ever been able to just drop into something.
32:24
I need to mentally prepare because I think it's just who we are
32:28
as people.
32:28
SPEAKER_02: We want to feel prepared when we go into something.
32:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:33
SPEAKER_02: It's made us good at the jobs that we've had.
32:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:36
SPEAKER_02: But the,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: the other side of the coin is that,
32:41
SPEAKER_02: yeah,
32:41
SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to be great when somebody is like,
32:43
SPEAKER_02: can you drop what you're doing and come do this thing?
32:47
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes I can.
32:48
SPEAKER_02: I can be pretty spontaneous with most things.
32:50
But if it's something where I feel like I want to feel like I
32:53
got my shit together
32:54
SPEAKER_02: for it,
32:55
SPEAKER_02: that might mean an hour on the front end.
32:58
And then what it's also meant as I've gotten older is having an
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hour on the back
33:01
SPEAKER_02: end to like decompress from it because –
33:05
yeah like what did we do the other day oh the pot like we
33:07
recorded a podcast like
33:09
we recorded one of the episodes and afterwards we we didn't
33:12
even realize how
33:12
exhausted we were from it until we tried to do another one and
33:15
we're just staring
33:16
at each other like gen z stare like i don't know like where
33:20
where did all that go
33:21
it's like you give we give so much when we give that i think
33:24
it's physical and
33:25
mental so there's this break that needs to happen afterwards
33:28
that is really
33:29
SPEAKER_02: necessary
33:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, which is why we're like one recording.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:34
SPEAKER_00: We've made a rule now.
33:35
SPEAKER_02: Don't worry.
33:36
SPEAKER_02: You won't get any.
33:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:38
SPEAKER_00: You won't have low energy from us.
33:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: We're going to be high energy.
33:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:43
SPEAKER_00: No, that's totally not my nature either.
33:45
SPEAKER_00: But okay.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
33:46
SPEAKER_02: Is it my turn?
33:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Number four, what is your favorite decade of life so far?
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Oh,
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I thought you were going to ask me,
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like,
33:57
what's my favorite decade in history?
33:59
SPEAKER_00: Oh, man.
34:01
SPEAKER_00: Not this one.
34:01
SPEAKER_00: I would love to go to Woodstock.
34:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: And also the late 60s was, like, kind of horrible for women.
34:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they all kind of had their own pros and cons.
34:09
SPEAKER_00: There's lots of pros and cons.
34:11
SPEAKER_00: Really good music.
34:12
SPEAKER_00: Not so good.
34:13
SPEAKER_00: Couldn't have my own credit card.
34:16
SPEAKER_00: Thanks, RBG.
34:17
SPEAKER_00: Seriously.
34:19
SPEAKER_00: My favorite decade so far,
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I really like being in my 40s because of exactly what you just
34:28
talked about with
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SPEAKER_00: protecting your peace and letting go of being a people pleaser.
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I've been contending with that for my whole life,
34:37
as long as I can remember as well.
34:39
And there's something so freeing about getting to a place where
34:43
I definitely still
34:44
SPEAKER_00: care a lot about things like
34:46
SPEAKER_00: what people think and making sure that everyone around me is good.
34:49
SPEAKER_00: But I'm beginning to care less and less.
34:54
SPEAKER_00: And that part feels really good.
34:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm noticing that I want to spend more time with fewer people
35:02
SPEAKER_00: I get that thing that people talk about where like,
35:04
SPEAKER_00: as you get older,
35:05
SPEAKER_00: your friend group shrinks.
35:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I have a lot of friends.
35:08
SPEAKER_00: I have a lot of acquaintances,
35:10
SPEAKER_00: but I,
35:11
SPEAKER_00: it's like,
35:11
I have different friends and different acquaintances for
35:14
different purposes,
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SPEAKER_00: like different reasons in my life and things that we really connect on.
35:21
SPEAKER_00: And that's fulfilling to me.
35:23
Like there's friends that I see like every six months or
35:25
something,
35:25
you know?
35:26
And then there's other people like you and I are basically like
35:29
up each other's asses.
35:30
SPEAKER_00: I know.
35:31
SPEAKER_00: We were texting until 10 p.m.
35:33
SPEAKER_00: last night.
35:34
SPEAKER_00: Like, so funny.
35:35
SPEAKER_00: We're together a lot.
35:36
SPEAKER_00: I was like, I'll see you in the morning.
35:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
35:38
SPEAKER_00: Even when we're not, we're still together.
35:40
SPEAKER_02: We make up for lost time,
35:41
SPEAKER_02: though,
35:41
SPEAKER_02: because there's a lot of times like,
35:43
SPEAKER_02: you know,
35:43
SPEAKER_02: when I left L.A.,
35:45
SPEAKER_02: we'd been friends for what?
35:47
SPEAKER_02: 13, 14?
35:48
SPEAKER_02: We'd been friends for like four years, I think.
35:52
when i left and moved to nantucket like yeah five five
35:55
something like that and i
35:56
think it was pretty hard on both of us because it was like we
35:58
had a good like we
36:00
were like we had a good cadence and but i knew i was like we're
36:04
gonna we're gonna
36:06
meet each other yeah all over the fucking place i mean they had
36:09
for marco polo too
36:10
because that oh yeah shout out marco polo maybe they could be a
36:13
sponsor we live
36:15
SPEAKER_02: like i think they they've saved friendships for me tenfold
36:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like quantity or quality over quantity.
36:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:24
SPEAKER_00: So I love that about my 40s.
36:27
SPEAKER_00: I met my husband.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: Well, I met my husband in my 20s, but we started dating in my early 30s.
36:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:34
SPEAKER_00: I feel like I had...
36:37
SPEAKER_00: The most pivotal changes come up in my life in my 30s so far.
36:44
SPEAKER_00: And I love a lot about different decades.
36:46
SPEAKER_00: This is really hard to pick.
36:48
SPEAKER_00: It is.
36:49
SPEAKER_02: I think mine's probably my 30s.
36:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:53
SPEAKER_02: I think, I mean.
36:55
SPEAKER_00: You just haven't entered your 40s yet.
36:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:56
SPEAKER_02: I was like, hopefully it's my 40s.
36:58
SPEAKER_02: You know, hopefully it'll get better.
36:59
SPEAKER_02: And there's been some, some shit in all of them for sure.
37:02
SPEAKER_02: And there's been some really good stuff in all of them.
37:04
SPEAKER_02: But I think my 30s,
37:05
SPEAKER_02: if I were to like put a theme on all of them,
37:08
SPEAKER_02: like my 30s definitely is when I started feeling my independence.
37:12
SPEAKER_02: And like.
37:13
SPEAKER_00: You got married super young too.
37:15
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
37:16
SPEAKER_02: I was 19.
37:16
SPEAKER_02: So like that, that like it's crazy.
37:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:19
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't even in my 20s decade yet.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: It's like you had your second coming or something in your 30s.
37:24
SPEAKER_00: Like you hit the reset button.
37:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:27
SPEAKER_02: And I felt like – I think in my 30s is when I felt like I had financial
37:31
SPEAKER_02: independence for the first time.
37:33
SPEAKER_02: I feel like that occurred more when I moved to Nantucket,
37:36
which is a place where it's like one of the most expensive
37:39
places probably to live.
37:40
SPEAKER_02: It's so funny that like the two places that I've been –
37:43
Where I've probably felt the most financially independent are
37:45
Los Angeles and Nantucket.
37:47
SPEAKER_02: And both two of the most expensive places.
37:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
37:50
SPEAKER_02: I think it's because I'm like find work easily.
37:52
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like if there's work to be found, then I find it.
37:57
SPEAKER_02: And then in those areas, there's just like so much work.
37:59
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
38:01
SPEAKER_00: So I guess.
38:04
SPEAKER_00: I love my 40s.
38:05
SPEAKER_00: I love something from every decade.
38:07
I love the freedom of the being able to party and stay up until
38:14
dawn and not feel
38:16
SPEAKER_00: awful in my teenage years and early 20s.
38:21
SPEAKER_00: No, now I'm very, I have sleep anxiety.
38:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I need to go to bed so I can get eight and a half hours.
38:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to ask you one that's a little,
38:30
SPEAKER_00: this one's going to be probably going to be hard,
38:33
SPEAKER_00: but it's not like a deep question.
38:37
SPEAKER_00: If you had to give up one of your senses, which one would it be?
38:41
SPEAKER_00: You got taste, touch, sight, hearing, and smell.
38:44
SPEAKER_02: Thanks for reminding me of what the senses are.
38:46
SPEAKER_00: I had to write it out and I wrote feel and touch.
38:52
i was like wait no there's another one in there yeah so taste
38:56
touch sight man
38:58
hearing and smell i mean off the bat i definitely wouldn't want
39:01
to give up hearing
39:02
because music is so important to me there's no way like about
39:06
like my life is made
39:08
so much like my life has a soundtrack you know like everything
39:13
i do i have music
39:14
SPEAKER_02: playing or it's in my head or whatever and so
39:16
SPEAKER_02: If I didn't have that,
39:17
SPEAKER_02: I mean,
39:17
SPEAKER_02: I guess I could still have it in my head if I couldn't hear,
39:20
SPEAKER_02: but it would only be up until now.
39:22
SPEAKER_02: My playlist would be only up until age 39.
39:25
SPEAKER_00: Would that be so bad, though?
39:26
SPEAKER_00: Because music today is interesting.
39:29
SPEAKER_02: It's very true.
39:30
SPEAKER_02: Let me rethink that.
39:31
SPEAKER_02: AI music, TikTok.
39:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I think, yeah, we wouldn't.
39:35
SPEAKER_02: And then...
39:37
I mean,
39:37
touch,
39:38
like that's a hard one because like,
39:41
man,
39:42
yeah,
39:43
taste,
39:44
smell.
39:45
SPEAKER_02: What do we got?
39:45
SPEAKER_00: Taste.
39:47
SPEAKER_02: It's a hard one.
39:47
SPEAKER_00: I know.
39:49
SPEAKER_00: And I want to put a lot of thought into it.
39:50
SPEAKER_00: So it's like taste, smell.
39:52
SPEAKER_00: You and I are wired exactly the same.
39:53
SPEAKER_00: Touch.
39:54
SPEAKER_00: It's like life or death.
39:56
SPEAKER_00: I have to figure it out.
39:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you have.
39:58
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
39:58
SPEAKER_00: So you said you wouldn't give up touch and you wouldn't give up hearing.
40:00
SPEAKER_00: So you have your taste, sight and smell left.
40:04
sight i mean i feel like i'm already halfway through the door
40:07
giving up my sight
40:07
because my eyes are getting bad so maybe that wouldn't be so
40:10
bad you get really i
40:11
know i wouldn't give up my sight i it might be taste yeah which
40:15
is like it's tough
40:17
but also i feel like if we're talking about like right now in
40:20
my life right like i
40:23
SPEAKER_02: have tasted so much
40:26
SPEAKER_02: I feel like even though I would miss things like,
40:30
SPEAKER_02: oh my God,
40:30
like a fresh base scallop that you just dove to the bottom of
40:36
the sea and got and
40:38
SPEAKER_02: opened up.
40:38
SPEAKER_02: There's so many things that I really do love.
40:45
SPEAKER_02: I love taste,
40:46
SPEAKER_02: but yeah,
40:48
I think that would have to get the boot because those other
40:53
ones are just so
40:54
SPEAKER_02: important to me.
40:54
SPEAKER_02: And taste is more...
40:57
SPEAKER_02: It's a luxury, but I don't think there's a ton of importance to it.
41:02
SPEAKER_02: I mean,
41:02
SPEAKER_02: I know there is like if you bring it back to like primal,
41:04
SPEAKER_00: like if you're a chef,
41:05
SPEAKER_00: there's if you're a chef,
41:07
SPEAKER_02: there's very important.
41:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:08
SPEAKER_02: But like as far as like survival,
41:09
SPEAKER_02: which is kind of innately always in the back of my mind,
41:12
SPEAKER_02: like I think that that's one that I wouldn't.
41:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:16
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't feel would affect me as much as the other ones would.
41:20
SPEAKER_02: So good question.
41:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: I know.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: Cause taste is a little bit more like, yeah, you're, you're right.
41:25
SPEAKER_00: It is.
41:26
SPEAKER_00: It does feel a little bit more like a privilege than,
41:29
SPEAKER_00: cause with smell,
41:30
like you could smell if your house is on fire or you could hear
41:34
the fire alarm
41:34
SPEAKER_00: going off or you could see the light going,
41:37
SPEAKER_00: but you don't need to taste the fire alarm.
41:39
SPEAKER_02: The only thing, yeah, you don't need to taste it.
41:41
SPEAKER_02: I mean,
41:41
SPEAKER_02: it would save me from like,
41:45
SPEAKER_02: all right,
41:45
SPEAKER_02: one example that now I'm like,
41:47
SPEAKER_02: shit,
41:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm thinking of some.
41:48
Like I was sick a couple weeks ago and Oliver went to Whole
41:51
Foods and got me that chicken soup.
41:53
SPEAKER_02: Shout out Whole Foods, you owe me some soup.
41:55
SPEAKER_02: He went and got me that chicken soup and the expiration date was fine.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: It was not due to expire for two more weeks.
42:03
But what must have happened,
42:04
because it was one of those fresh soups in like the clear pint,
42:08
SPEAKER_02: is it must have gotten taken out of the refrigerated section,
42:12
like somebody was going to purchase it and then they left it
42:14
out near the checkout
42:15
SPEAKER_02: counter or something is all I can imagine.
42:17
SPEAKER_02: And then they put it back, but it had went bad.
42:19
So I went to eat it and the only reason I knew,
42:22
I guess,
42:23
no,
42:24
I did smell it before I tasted it.
42:25
SPEAKER_02: But...
42:28
SPEAKER_02: I thought my smell was all messed up because I was sick.
42:31
SPEAKER_02: So I went ahead and took a bite of it.
42:32
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, this is, it was tasted like hot garbage.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: So.
42:37
SPEAKER_02: So gross.
42:38
I guess even then as a good example,
42:39
like I did smell,
42:40
it smelled bad before I even tasted it.
42:42
SPEAKER_02: So my line of defense, my scent kicked in first.
42:46
SPEAKER_02: So I'm giving up taste.
42:48
SPEAKER_02: Final answer.
42:49
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
42:50
SPEAKER_00: All right.
42:52
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
42:53
SPEAKER_00: Should we do one more each?
42:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:55
SPEAKER_02: I got, oh, I have, I have two more.
42:59
oh yeah what are we at let's pick one more each okay you go and
43:04
then i'll go yeah
43:06
dang all right well god one's like a really serious one and the
43:12
other one's kind of
43:13
just like like i just love these questions even though i'm i'm
43:18
going for the last
43:18
one i'm going for my wild card just because you just said
43:20
something about fire
43:22
SPEAKER_02: house is on fire you saving curtis or zula oh no i know
43:29
SPEAKER_00: Oh, God.
43:30
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
43:31
SPEAKER_00: Ooh.
43:33
SPEAKER_00: I know it's so hard.
43:35
It's honestly,
43:36
it is really hard,
43:37
but obviously I would choose my husband.
43:40
SPEAKER_00: I'll make it a little easier on you.
43:42
SPEAKER_02: Both of them are still,
43:44
SPEAKER_02: like,
43:45
SPEAKER_02: it's not one or the other,
43:47
SPEAKER_02: but there is a small chance,
43:49
SPEAKER_02: like,
43:50
SPEAKER_02: it's collapsing.
43:51
So are you trusting that Curtis could probably make it out by
43:53
himself and you're
43:55
SPEAKER_02: going to get Zula,
43:56
SPEAKER_02: or are you going to help Curtis and...
43:59
SPEAKER_00: Well, if Curtis is still capable and he can get himself out.
44:02
SPEAKER_00: He should just get him.
44:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, then obviously I'm going to save my dog.
44:07
SPEAKER_02: She'd catch fire so quick to her.
44:13
SPEAKER_02: She'd just combust.
44:15
SPEAKER_02: Your whole house would burn down so fast because of how hairy she is.
44:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's a shepherd husky.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: I'm surprised your insurance isn't higher because you have a shepsky.
44:24
SPEAKER_00: Have a flammable animal.
44:26
SPEAKER_00: Oh, my God.
44:27
SPEAKER_00: Oh, no.
44:28
SPEAKER_00: That one's really hard.
44:29
SPEAKER_00: I know.
44:29
SPEAKER_00: I would.
44:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of course, I would pick my husband.
44:33
SPEAKER_00: But I would never recover from the loss of my dog.
44:38
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't either.
44:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:40
SPEAKER_00: Especially in that way,
44:41
like thinking about the fires in LA at the beginning of this
44:44
year and the amount of
44:45
people who lost their animals because they had to go to work
44:48
and then the fire
44:49
SPEAKER_00: broke out and they couldn't get back or something.
44:51
SPEAKER_00: People are like, I would never leave my pet.
44:55
You literally don't realize that there's going to be a fire
44:59
when you leave and then
45:00
SPEAKER_00: you can't get back.
45:00
SPEAKER_02: No, the amount that we thought about that.
45:02
SPEAKER_02: It's so misunderstood.
45:03
SPEAKER_02: When those fires were happening and like we had the dog...
45:05
SPEAKER_02: We were taking the dogs everywhere with us.
45:07
SPEAKER_02: Like if we just went down to... Because we didn't have service.
45:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course.
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SPEAKER_00: Like the...
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SPEAKER_00: They wouldn't be able to call you.
45:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was.
45:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they can't call us.
45:16
But we like we couldn't even get the evacuation alerts because
45:21
the Internet wasn't
45:22
SPEAKER_02: working and our power was out.
45:23
So we had to drive all the way down and we'd just take them
45:26
with us even if we were
45:26
leaving the house for five minutes because that shit spreads
45:29
like wildfire.
45:30
yep it does anyway we don't have to go into that too much but
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your last and final
45:34
question my last and final question okay well you commented on
45:39
how you would never
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give up your hearing because you are a big music lover so this
45:44
one's gonna suck for
45:45
you oh no if you could only choose one album to listen to for
45:49
the rest of your life
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SPEAKER_00: what would it be
45:54
SPEAKER_02: I hate these questions.
45:56
SPEAKER_02: This is like when somebody's like, what's your favorite song?
45:59
SPEAKER_02: Like, Jesus Christ.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe you could do a compilation.
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SPEAKER_00: I had one album.
46:04
SPEAKER_00: You could burn a CD.
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SPEAKER_02: No, seriously.
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SPEAKER_02: This is one of those things.
46:10
SPEAKER_02: This is a good lesson.
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Because I feel like,
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I don't know why this is like,
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it's so commonly asked.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, what's your favorite song or whatever?
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SPEAKER_02: And I always have to say, well, right now.
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And I think I do that because it's so much pressure to feel
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like I'm going to be forgetting.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, like about, because there's just so much.
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There's no way that I have like a Rolodex in my head right now
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of every single favorite album.
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SPEAKER_02: Like I can probably think of five of them and then be like, okay.
46:36
SPEAKER_02: Like, and also music for me is so mood based.
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Like I'll go through phases where I listen to exclusively funk
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music for six months.
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SPEAKER_02: Like it's ridiculous.
46:46
SPEAKER_02: Like, or maybe not that long, but like if I, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
46:49
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
46:49
SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: Right now, right now in this moment.
46:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
46:54
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
46:55
SPEAKER_00: Here, I will.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not for the rest of your life.
46:58
SPEAKER_00: What would you listen to right now?
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SPEAKER_00: Like the only thing you could listen to if it's on repeat.
47:02
SPEAKER_02: I got so fired up that you had to rephrase the question.
47:04
SPEAKER_00: I know.
47:05
SPEAKER_00: Well, I knew this one would get you.
47:06
SPEAKER_00: So for the next six months, you can only listen to one thing on repeat.
47:10
SPEAKER_00: What would it be?
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SPEAKER_00: That helps narrow it down.
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SPEAKER_00: Based on right now.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, the next six months.
47:16
So this is like,
47:18
I don't know what flavor of like,
47:20
neurological spiciness this is.
47:21
But if somebody in the medical field is listening to the way I
47:24
break this down,
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SPEAKER_02: please tell me what's wrong with me.
47:27
So you say that and I immediately think,
47:29
all right,
47:30
we're going into autumn.
47:33
SPEAKER_02: So vibes are cozy.
47:35
I'm going to be inside probably a lot or outside doing fires
47:41
with a little fire pit.
47:42
And so I'm thinking of like,
47:43
what is the vibe and the mode,
47:46
the mood that I want to like create?
47:49
SPEAKER_02: Because music for me creates the mood.
47:51
SPEAKER_02: Like if I'm having people over,
47:53
I'm obsessing over what the playlist is going to be that's
47:56
going to keep everybody
47:58
SPEAKER_02: upbeat and feel like they're having an energized,
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SPEAKER_02: good time.
48:02
SPEAKER_02: And if I am feeling anxious and overwhelmed,
48:06
then I'm going to put on music that I feel like brings me down
48:09
and centers me or
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SPEAKER_02: grounds me.
48:11
SPEAKER_02: So we're going into Autumn now.
48:14
SPEAKER_02: And it's probably going to be,
48:17
SPEAKER_02: I feel like we were videotaping this,
48:19
SPEAKER_02: so it would be like,
48:19
SPEAKER_02: cut 45 minutes of Jamie Lynn just sitting there silent,
48:23
SPEAKER_02: digging through her brain catalog.
48:25
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I will probably cut out any long silences.
48:27
SPEAKER_02: So there's going to be a few.
48:29
SPEAKER_02: So genre, is that what we changed it to?
48:32
SPEAKER_02: Like a genre of music?
48:33
SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
48:34
SPEAKER_02: Or still an album?
48:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it could be an album.
48:39
SPEAKER_00: You're like, just answer the fucking question, Jamie Lynn.
48:41
SPEAKER_00: An album.
48:44
that you it's the only one that you can play you can have it on
48:47
repeat okay so it's
48:49
like your desert like you're stuck on a desert island for the
48:52
next six months and
48:53
you get one album one album to play over and over again yeah
48:56
okay this is like your
48:58
SPEAKER_00: final meal
49:00
SPEAKER_00: But it's only six.
49:01
SPEAKER_02: God, oddly, my brain went to like the most recent Leonard Cohen album.
49:05
SPEAKER_02: But that would be so fucking depressing.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: I would just I would not last on that.
49:09
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I love that.
49:10
SPEAKER_00: Jamie Lynn did not make it to six months.
49:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, seriously.
49:13
SPEAKER_02: They're like, all right, four days in after repeating that for now.
49:17
SPEAKER_02: I think, OK, so I'm alone.
49:19
SPEAKER_02: I'm deserted.
49:21
SPEAKER_02: And I want to and I have to listen to something on repeat.
49:24
SPEAKER_00: You can move the desert island component of this, but I'm just saying.
49:29
SPEAKER_00: Every little thing that you add to it makes it so much different.
49:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh no, okay, I'm deserted on the island?
49:36
SPEAKER_00: No, it's just, it's the concept of you have to pick one thing.
49:41
SPEAKER_00: No, but you have six months.
49:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:43
SPEAKER_00: You're here in your house.
49:44
SPEAKER_02: I'm literally ripping my hair out right now.
49:48
SPEAKER_00: This is how important music is to you.
49:49
SPEAKER_02: God.
49:52
Okay,
49:53
I'm going to cheat a little bit because I don't want to narrow
49:55
it down to like one album.
49:59
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to say like a compilation of hits from Muddy Waters.
50:08
okay all right that's fine it's like the greatest the greatest
50:11
hits yeah okay all
50:12
right all right i just feel like that's gonna be like nostalgic
50:16
and and warm for me
50:18
and like wholesome and and but it's also gonna like inspire me
50:22
to keep going for
50:23
some reason i've decided i'm not only deserted on this island
50:26
but i'm like barely
50:27
SPEAKER_02: surviving like
50:30
i'm gonna be like like i just feel like while i'm tinkering
50:32
with like trying to
50:33
make a boat to escape that's gonna get me through while i'm
50:37
sitting around this
50:38
fire i had to build you're talking to your best friend wilson
50:41
when i'm talking to
50:42
SPEAKER_02: the volleyball i am now tom hanks
50:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
50:46
SPEAKER_02: Somehow.
50:47
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
50:47
SPEAKER_00: This took a turn.
50:49
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
50:50
SPEAKER_02: That's amazing.
50:51
SPEAKER_02: All right.
50:52
SPEAKER_02: Now that I'm sweating and I was like hyperventilating.
50:55
SPEAKER_00: No, I think that's good though.
50:56
SPEAKER_00: I feel like that gives some insight.
50:58
SPEAKER_00: And I learned some things.
50:59
SPEAKER_00: I know you did.
51:00
SPEAKER_00: About you.
51:01
SPEAKER_00: We're always going to be learning things about each other.
51:02
I had one more really good question,
51:04
but I know it's like we've run out of time.
51:07
okay ask it okay i'll try to be fast since because i feel like
51:10
this is important
51:10
because i i want to know okay because it's going to be
51:13
important for me since you
51:15
since turning 40 what has been one like a positive change
51:20
you've seen and a
51:21
negative change like what's been like a favorite thing and kind
51:23
of like a least
51:24
SPEAKER_02: favorite thing since that birthday since that turn that turning of age
51:29
SPEAKER_00: A favorite thing is trusting myself more.
51:32
SPEAKER_02: Cool.
51:33
SPEAKER_02: Good.
51:33
SPEAKER_02: Common theme.
51:35
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
51:35
SPEAKER_00: Trusting myself more.
51:37
SPEAKER_00: I,
51:37
SPEAKER_00: a little backstory,
51:38
SPEAKER_00: which you already know,
51:39
SPEAKER_00: but I left my job at,
51:41
SPEAKER_00: I was working for Red Bull Media House,
51:44
SPEAKER_00: managing the photo operations team for the last couple of years.
51:48
SPEAKER_00: I was there for seven years.
51:49
SPEAKER_00: I left there.
51:50
SPEAKER_00: I knew on my birthday.
51:52
So Curtis and I had that conversation on my birthday when I was
51:57
turning 40 and
51:59
SPEAKER_00: That like, do you want to leave your job?
52:02
SPEAKER_00: You haven't been happy for a little while.
52:03
SPEAKER_00: Do you want to think about leaving your job?
52:05
SPEAKER_00: And so I was like,
52:06
SPEAKER_00: yes,
52:07
I was waiting for him to ask the question because that meant
52:09
that he's prepared to
52:11
kind of like take the reins because I had had the full time job
52:15
that whole time.
52:16
For seven years and he's the musician so he's freelancing and
52:20
his careers just
52:21
started to take off in this big way in the last year and a half
52:25
or two years.
52:26
So it's been this like passing of the baton kind of but I knew
52:29
that that was coming
52:31
SPEAKER_00: up for six months.
52:33
SPEAKER_00: And
52:35
SPEAKER_00: I really had to trust the process at that point.
52:37
SPEAKER_00: Right.
52:38
So I kind of set myself up for that,
52:40
like on my 40th birthday,
52:41
essentially.
52:42
SPEAKER_00: So that's a big one.
52:44
SPEAKER_00: Big life changes, trusting myself, just taking lots of leaps of faith.
52:49
SPEAKER_00: And then the other one thing that I that I don't like, I've.
52:54
SPEAKER_00: I do feel like my metabolism is slowing down a little bit.
52:59
SPEAKER_00: But when I go to the gym and I have a regular routine,
53:01
SPEAKER_00: I feel like I can kind of keep myself in check.
53:05
SPEAKER_00: But I can't get away with things as easily as I used to.
53:08
SPEAKER_00: So like when I was 30,
53:10
I felt like I could have a couple of days of like eating a
53:13
bunch of like a lot of
53:15
SPEAKER_00: fatty foods and calories and like not go to the gym.
53:17
SPEAKER_00: And I wouldn't feel great, but I wouldn't feel like...
53:21
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I can like, I'm feeling this in my body.
53:25
It seems like if I take a couple days off from doing a regular
53:30
health routine,
53:32
SPEAKER_00: then I notice a shift and a change very quickly.
53:36
But then it does seem like once I get into a routine of going
53:40
and being mindful,
53:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can't be like on autopilot as much.
53:45
SPEAKER_02: It's like your body's not on autopilot as much.
53:47
SPEAKER_02: I feel that too, where it's not like, eh, it'll work itself out.
53:50
SPEAKER_02: It does take a lot more even now.
53:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it feels very much like it's like you have to – it is work.
53:57
Whereas before it was just kind of like,
53:58
wow,
53:59
things are just working out because I –
54:01
You know,
54:02
I partied hard for the weekend,
54:03
but then I went on a big hike and now I'm fine.
54:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
54:07
SPEAKER_00: And also the existential crisis that is a hangover.
54:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
54:12
SPEAKER_00: I do not.
54:14
If I were to say my least favorite since like aging or
54:17
whatever,
54:18
I don't know when it started.
54:19
SPEAKER_02: I think it kind of started probably a year ago.
54:21
SPEAKER_00: Mid-30s or something.
54:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, maybe.
54:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
54:23
the sensitivity it's weird it's a double-edged sword it's like
54:26
i'd say sensitivity
54:27
to sensitivity to alcohol but i feel like i'm less sensitive to
54:31
the effects of
54:32
alcohol while i'm drinking it so i don't really even feel like
54:35
i get the fun
54:37
benefits but then i'm so much more yeah like have you're not
54:41
like yeah it's also
54:42
SPEAKER_00: light and buzzy
54:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like have a couple ciders with you or Guinness.
54:46
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I guess I felt that.
54:49
I mean,
54:49
I enjoyed having a drink with you,
54:51
but I'm not like,
54:51
oh,
54:51
I feel a little buzz.
54:53
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes I get a headache while I'm drinking.
54:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, same.
54:55
SPEAKER_02: It's like my hangover will start when I've finished the drink.
54:59
SPEAKER_00: It's so shitty.
55:00
But if I go to the gym and I have a really good workout and it
55:04
feels like I process
55:05
SPEAKER_00: things a little bit better.
55:07
So if I've been sitting around and not really doing much
55:09
activity wise and then I
55:11
SPEAKER_00: have a drink,
55:12
SPEAKER_00: it's so different.
55:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
55:14
SPEAKER_00: And it depends on what I drink.
55:15
SPEAKER_00: Like I've gotten real fancy with wine.
55:17
SPEAKER_00: Like I can't have to do organic, natural from a local wine shop.
55:22
I can't do like the mass produced wine anymore because it makes
55:26
me feel really,
55:27
really bad.
55:28
SPEAKER_02: I hate that it all ties to health.
55:30
It's like what we were talking about last night where it's like
55:32
the saying that
55:32
SPEAKER_02: like,
55:33
SPEAKER_02: if you're not healthy,
55:34
SPEAKER_02: you're not horny.
55:34
SPEAKER_02: And it's like, if you're not healthy, you're hungover too.
55:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
55:38
SPEAKER_00: Damn it.
55:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
55:39
SPEAKER_00: Even without drinking.
55:40
SPEAKER_00: Moral of the story.
55:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
55:41
SPEAKER_00: Just not getting enough sleep now.
55:43
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh my God, I can't exist.
55:45
SPEAKER_00: I can't do this.
55:46
SPEAKER_00: Anyway.
55:46
SPEAKER_00: I think that's a good place.
55:47
SPEAKER_00: That was a good get to know you.
55:49
SPEAKER_02: I feel like as much as I know you already, I just learned a lot more.
55:52
So I really hope that our audience feels more connected to us
55:56
through this and is
55:57
SPEAKER_02: excited for future conversations.
56:01
We should do more of these because I feel like we barely
56:04
scratched the surface in a
56:05
SPEAKER_02: lot of our stories,
56:06
SPEAKER_02: which is so funny.
56:07
SPEAKER_02: It should be like a monthly.
56:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
56:09
SPEAKER_00: Or like we could we could do one.
56:10
SPEAKER_00: It's a quarter or something.
56:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: OK.
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SPEAKER_02: And now if you have any questions for us.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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