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❄️ RHOSLC Reunion Part 3 "Pills, Planes, and Accountability" · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Welcome into drama Darling. It's Salt Lake City Reunion
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  Speaker 2: three day. Joining me from Maryland is the one and
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  Speaker 2: only Maryland Emily, Emily, Hello, welcome in.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, Greetings from a snowy, almost salt lake like Maryland.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean keep warm out there, Maryland and everywhere
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  Speaker 2: else in the country. I know Michigan is getting it
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  Speaker 2: pretty good. I've got friends, you know what. I have
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: friends all over the country. Yes, Emily, don't question it.
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  Speaker 2: I do, Okay, at least three states. Okay, speaking disgusting, No,
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  Speaker 2: it's true. People like me. My wife looks me. Planes,
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  Speaker 2: trains and automobiles. You guys, you know, do.
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: You ever want Amy to openly weep?
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  Speaker 3: Just launch into John Candy's monologue from Plane, Trains and Automobiles?
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  Speaker 1: Is that closing monologue? And she'll do it. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna I'm not doing it.
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  Speaker 3: You're a liar and I'm malicious, despicable.
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  Speaker 2: How dare you do that to me? And on a
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  Speaker 2: charter with Captain Jason? How could you? We'll talk about
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  Speaker 2: it at our own reunion, okay, Emily, but we will
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  Speaker 2: discuss reunion three, and I hope this will keep you
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: guys warm wherever you're getting that snow. Oh poor Brittany.
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  Speaker 2: She left. She returned with a great interrupting sentence with
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  Speaker 2: Meredith Mayor. Right in the middle of Mark, Andy was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: we're done. Fuck you, I apologize, it's over. I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: all right. I love that she gathered herself and like,
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  Speaker 2: you know it was empowered herself back up and came
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  Speaker 2: back out and was like if I don't say it now,
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  Speaker 2: I'll never say it. But also, there's a time and
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  Speaker 2: a place, so let's just you know, we could wait
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  Speaker 2: at our turn to say say what we needed to say.
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  Speaker 2: And I appreciated that. Whitney was like, hold done. I
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  Speaker 2: think of what they were saying was actually interesting because
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  Speaker 2: Andy was like looking at his cards after that, like
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  Speaker 2: ready to move on to whatever. So Mary and Meredith
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  Speaker 2: couldn't even like they were just gonna leave it. It
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  Speaker 2: just was so abrupt and funny to me that I
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  Speaker 2: I appreciated that. And then also, you know, Andy picked
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  Speaker 2: it up this week with you know, Meredith saying that
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  Speaker 2: she has felt that Brittany had targeted her, and I
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  Speaker 2: did appreciate that Andy was like, well, if she took
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  Speaker 2: the post down, it sounded like she handled it. Both
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  Speaker 2: sides were you know, Andy was able to ask her
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  Speaker 2: the tough questions and Meredith was able to give the
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  Speaker 2: answers that she had. That's her truth, which is that
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  Speaker 2: Brittany questioned it first about the anti semitism and because
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  Speaker 2: the post said, well I only heard one thing, what
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  Speaker 2: else is there? So I think I think Meredith's point
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  Speaker 2: still stands, which is like, why do you need more
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  Speaker 2: than one reason? You know what I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what Brittany was told, Like, I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: it was that she was told about. The one thing
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  Speaker 2: she heard was not that bad that you were like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I'll give it a pass, you know. I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of like, well it was it was at least
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  Speaker 2: bordering at all on anti Semitism, like oh, of course
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  Speaker 2: you should do something, so that I'm taking issue with that,
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  Speaker 2: So I understand Meredith's problem with that. Now when Meredith
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: goes into like I've felt targeted from the beginning, I
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  Speaker 2: did appreciate some follow up questions on that from Andy,
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  Speaker 2: which is like, well, did she say anything, did she
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  Speaker 2: do anything? And that he was like, well, we didn't
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  Speaker 2: know her intentions about the post if she fully knew.
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  Speaker 2: I liked that we kind of left it where we
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  Speaker 2: actually don't really know the truth. And I'm more comfortable
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  Speaker 2: with that than figuring out like the details that I
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  Speaker 2: don't really know. Like I don't know what Brittany knew,
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  Speaker 2: but I can say that if she knew a little wisp,
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  Speaker 2: I would have much more be what I would love
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  Speaker 2: to be walking away with, Like she took it down
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  Speaker 2: knowing what she knew. But the whole thing about like
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  Speaker 2: Andy's like, well maybe she just no offense, but like
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  Speaker 2: doesn't like you yoke. That was a rough thing to
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  Speaker 2: say in Meredith was like Okay, well alrighty then and
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  Speaker 2: so we move on. But I mean, I think it
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  Speaker 2: may be more about that than other things. Then she
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  Speaker 2: was targeted. That's just my opinion. But I don't like
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  Speaker 2: what Brittany did about not taking down her review, And
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  Speaker 2: in light of what was actually going on, what do
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  Speaker 2: you think.
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  Speaker 3: That just feels much more like Brittany in terms of
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  Speaker 3: like again, it goes back to her like need to
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  Speaker 3: please men, and I thought like her and Jared had
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  Speaker 3: this her and Jared aligned with this guy and Brittany
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  Speaker 3: wanted to like hold on to that for too long.
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  Speaker 2: How Jared involved? Did he get his nails down there too?
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  Speaker 1: Or what was the I guess because that was the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. Like the two of them.
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  Speaker 2: Were oh, the two of them were there.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, So I just thought, like, this just reeks
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  Speaker 3: of Brittany trying to please somebody else and not realizing
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  Speaker 3: the magnitude.
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  Speaker 2: Of the situation. Interesting, that's a good point. I like
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you're like, I blame Jared.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like I always do.
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  Speaker 2: I'm fair. All right, we can move on from that.
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  Speaker 2: The plane ride came back up. So did you have
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  Speaker 2: a drink before you got on the plane before we
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  Speaker 2: diverted into this whole thing with Brittany? She had one
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  Speaker 2: drink in the lounge? Okay, sure, sure.
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  Speaker 1: But we also got the ambient mentioned.
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  Speaker 3: We also got a Benzo mentioned, which is I watched
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  Speaker 3: the Peacock version and so I don't know if that
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  Speaker 3: was on the Bravo, but the Peacock version was eighteen
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  Speaker 3: minutes longer or something, so I don't know, but anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Eighteen minutes of Benzo's no. Yeah, but they weren't referring
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  Speaker 2: to the ambient the xanax or like referring to the benzo,
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  Speaker 2: referring to the xanax as benzo. That wasn't on that trip.
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  Speaker 2: That wasn't what was what happened on that plane ride
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  Speaker 2: before that plane ride?
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  Speaker 1: Right? It was mentioned.
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  Speaker 3: It was put out there as so you were you
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  Speaker 3: doing a similar thing from when Heather gave you that
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  Speaker 3: pill that right time? Yeah, And then somebody said ambient
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  Speaker 3: and I was.
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  Speaker 1: Like, okay, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Is this it is ambient considered a benzo? Or is
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  Speaker 2: annex considered a benzo? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Annex is ambient?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but it is definitely whoa makes you sleep,
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  Speaker 3: So I would.
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  Speaker 1: Assume that it's got something some component of that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh interesting, okay, okay, So yeah, So basically what you're
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  Speaker 2: saying is they laid the groundwork with this footage of
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  Speaker 2: we've been here before, you have taken this before. And
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of funny, because I mean, none of
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: this is funny obviously, but this is a comedy podcast,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm going to find the humor and everything. But
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: for the most part, I like that Meredith was essentially
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: blaming the drug dealer and not like themselves, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like it was kind of like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you are my dealer and you gave me that, Oh
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  Speaker 2: you are the one and was responentable. I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so who's to blame the drug dealer or the drug
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  Speaker 2: e you know what's happening here. And but I think
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  Speaker 2: that Heather holding her feet to the fire of like,
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  Speaker 2: well you don't do you say you don't take pills,
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  Speaker 2: You never ever take pills, but you did accept pills
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  Speaker 2: that we gave you. And I also appreciate Heather coming
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  Speaker 2: clean about just like and Whitney, Oh yeah, what were
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  Speaker 2: we popping that day? What did we give her? I
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  Speaker 2: can't remember? Was it this or that? Or I was like, wow, okay,
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  Speaker 2: look I don't have much of a problem with that anyway.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're flying. I get it. It's difficult for
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  Speaker 2: some people. It's also difficult when you go when you're
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  Speaker 2: traveling to get to sleep. Blah blah blah. All that aside.
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  Speaker 2: Very interesting that Meredith is absolutely tripling down that she
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  Speaker 2: doesn't do that, but then was like, oh, but what
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  Speaker 2: did you you gave me something? It was you and
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  Speaker 2: what is it? Because I don't even know what pills are?
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  Speaker 2: They are? They are? They like? What is it a
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  Speaker 2: form of tik tak? Is it something you swallow or
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: you crushed? Like, I don't know, is it like cough medicine?
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's just like what, well, what are you
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  Speaker 2: pick a reason at this point, Meredith, because at the
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: end of this reunion it was you know, we've been
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  Speaker 2: on the journey. We've now seen three parts. She's had
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  Speaker 2: every opportunity to own up or take accountability for what
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  Speaker 2: happened on that plane, whether it's as bad as we
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  Speaker 2: thought or not as bad as we thought. Listen to
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  Speaker 2: my episode from last week, but she hasn't to the
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  Speaker 2: point where Andy's like, Meredith, is there anything that you, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, want to actually own for once at
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  Speaker 2: all in your life, for just a second, in any
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  Speaker 2: possible way, regarding only just the plane ride, not even
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  Speaker 2: anything else helping you out here. And She's like, I
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  Speaker 2: was the wrong time and Plance and I'm sorry that
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  Speaker 2: Brittany overheard. So I'm on that thing work And he's like,
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  Speaker 2: so nothing, nothing, give me nothing, Okay, let's move on.
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  Speaker 2: It's a rap on, Meredith, you know, I mean that's
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  Speaker 2: like where we are, and it is just unbelievable. Now
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  Speaker 2: last week, as you remember, I had completely gone to
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  Speaker 2: the other side, which is like it wasn't as bad
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  Speaker 2: on the plane as they explained it to me. And
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of holes in everyone's stories. And I
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  Speaker 2: still stand by that can't tell me that you were
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  Speaker 2: descending for an hour and that's when it was really bad,
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  Speaker 2: because I thought it was for two hours. And then
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  Speaker 2: there's a producer on there that didn't that was like
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: sitting in another class but didn't come up. All of
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't really pan out. But needless to say, she
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  Speaker 2: will not budge on her behavior on the plane. She
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  Speaker 2: will give us that she had one drink in the lounge.
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  Speaker 2: Highly doubt it was one drink. It was probably one drink,
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  Speaker 2: but it was probably a double, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I go back to pills because I
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  Speaker 3: think even though okay, maybe he's not gonna say ambient,
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  Speaker 3: I think maybe she's on some kind of prescription medication.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well then that's a different that's a different story.
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  Speaker 2: That's a different story. I thought of that as well.
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  Speaker 2: So if it's yes that ambien could be.
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  Speaker 3: A prescription, but she seemed to like totally distance herself
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  Speaker 3: from that idea, and on the reunion, she's like, what
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  Speaker 3: is that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't even so I was.
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  Speaker 3: Like, Okay, well it looks like that to me. But
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  Speaker 3: maybe she's on some yes medication.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I was thinking too, because from her doctor,
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  Speaker 2: even though she is playing dumb about pills, which she is,
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  Speaker 2: and she very well much knows what a fucking ambient
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  Speaker 2: and a xanax is and a benzo, I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: of course she knows. So her playing dumb is what's
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  Speaker 2: irritating me. However, I do kind of believe her that
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't take those things, and I believe that she's
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  Speaker 2: probably on a prescription meta vcation, whether it's like an
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: antipsychotic or by the way, like love the antipsychotics. Everyone
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  Speaker 2: take them if you need them, So this is not
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  Speaker 2: at all like a bad thing. Ye but I'm saying, like,
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  Speaker 2: there must be something that she could be taking, even
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  Speaker 2: if it's like heart medication or you know, diabetes, what
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  Speaker 2: have you, whatever it is, she is not willing to
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  Speaker 2: be vulnerable and share that she is on something that
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: would cause that type of reaction. So yea, here we are,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like she won't budge with anything, She's just yeh.
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  Speaker 2: After Andy was like paused towards the end of this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, part three, towards the end of this whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: He even took it upon himself, which is very unusual.
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  Speaker 2: Or maybe he does and we just don't see it,
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe they leave it out of the edit.
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  Speaker 2: But I like that they showed us that Andy took
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: a moment to basically say to all them, I've been
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: doing this for twenty years and I appreciate all your transparency,
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: your vulnerabilities. You're doing so much and you're sharing so much,
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  Speaker 2: and you're also great mothers. And it was just a
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  Speaker 2: really beautiful moment. And yeah, and it just to go
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  Speaker 2: from that to just this strict, you know, like absolutely
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: stiff person that stands out to the rest of us
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  Speaker 2: as just not opening up about much at all, shutting
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  Speaker 2: everything down, denying everything, not being forthcoming, only apologizing to
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  Speaker 2: some degree withholding in others. The walls are completely up
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  Speaker 2: on Meredith, and I wonder when we're going to move on.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have a weird not weird. I just don't
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  Speaker 2: think she's going to come back. I don't think I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, because it's like with Meredith, it's like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like when before the Cubs won the World
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  Speaker 3: Series forever, it was like people are like, the Cubs
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  Speaker 3: don't need to win the World Series because it's like
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: everybody's going to go to Wrigley anyway and buy sell
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: out every game. And I feel like that's kind of
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  Speaker 3: Meredith because she gives us these iconic moments every season,
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: the most quotable moments of the season, sorry, extremely correct, despicable,
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  Speaker 3: case in.
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  Speaker 2: Point case in, point yup.
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  Speaker 1: You win. She doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: She's not gonna maybe make it to the playoffs, but like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, she's iconic anyway.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: I mean the beginning, I agree. My only thing is
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: what's different this season is that it's been going on
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  Speaker 2: for a really long time, and I think even Andy
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: seems absolutely done with her. And the reason why I
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: say that is for two reasons. One obviously, just this
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: past episode where he's like, so nothing, nothing at all,
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  Speaker 2: no apologies. And so it's not just that because he's
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: done that with Teresa and Melissa every single year until
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: they're not on anymore, right, and they were carrying that show.
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  Speaker 2: So but there's plenty of other players in the Salt
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Lake City. So anyway, so there's that, and then remember,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know if it was I think it
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  Speaker 2: was part one of this where everyone was like talking
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  Speaker 2: over everybody, and Meredith wanted to slow it down and
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: divert from talking about the drink before the plane and
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: then call out the whole Britney thing, right, and so
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: she's like, well, hold on on it before we get
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: into that, I just want to say this, and he
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: did not stand the ground of like continuing that conversation.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: He was like, Okay, sure, because this is probably the
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: last time you're ever going to be on a reunion,
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: So ahead, That's like, honestly what I was thinking, Like,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: go ahead, Meredith, you talk as much as you want,
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: because this reunion is going to show us where we
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: stand for next season. And between that and her having
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: a problem with production, that's where it is. Yeah, So
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: I think it's well, I think it's several things and
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: that's not going to go well for her at all.
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  Speaker 2: And what's hilarious to me is that, like Whitney and
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: then Mary crying, I'm like, you guys don't care about
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  Speaker 2: production that much. You care about this job. So don't
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: try and like stand up. At least Meredith is being
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  Speaker 2: real for once and saying she has a problem with production,
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  Speaker 2: whereas Whitney's like, we would not to be even to
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: be here in this world if it were not for production. Na,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: It's like, relax, you're fine, You're not going anywhere, you know.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, we can kind of see you right through.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not to say that they don't appreciate and
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: have relationships with these people, but guess what, it can
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: turn on a dime for every single one of them
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: because they can feel set up, they can feel betrayed,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: and it's inevitable because that's part of the show. The
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: producers are going to do their job no matter what,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: and unfortunately they have to probably be a little more
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: strict with Meredith, and she doesn't like it because she's
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: not being vulnerable. She's being sneaky. And we've seen it
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: so many times on this episode, in particular with braun
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  Speaker 2: Wyn and Heather and whatever. You're constantly pulling me aside
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  Speaker 2: and saying blah bah bah blah blah off camera, you're
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: telling me to come to you and tell you secrets.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: You know, everyone is saying that Meredith is basically plays
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: that way. So she is not a production's best friend.
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  Speaker 2: She's not a good player on the team as far
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: as production goes. So for those reasons, I think they're out.
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  Speaker 2: She's gonna at least be a friend of She won't
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: think that. She won't do that.
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  Speaker 3: Mmmmm, you don't think absolutely up for I think that's
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  Speaker 3: what she wants.
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  Speaker 2: She would never Her ego is way too big for that.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: What was she.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: If you were to ask if production okay, you be Andy,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: and you call me and tell me you're offer me
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: a friend of her roll and I'll play it.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Hello, ring ring ring, ring ring ring.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Yes. Hello, I'm sorry I can't hear you. I'm DJing
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: right now, Oh Andy, I've never been butter soup, and
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I'm We're just in Dallas for the second spot in
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: our tour for Meredith and Mixes or whatever the fuck
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: it's called. Yes, and.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: We think we have an exciting opportunity for you as
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: one of the senior veteran wives of Salt Lake City.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: We have an incredible opportunity.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: For you, and you can lean click. But seriously, I
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: will consider that. And ebe, I didn't see that coming.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: As a matter of facts, not the eye and Chloe
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: and Brooks, Marx and I were just talking about my
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: return as a housewife, and I had a lot of
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: ideas that I was gonna throw by you and share
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: with you about my journey and being a wife and
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: a mother and the DJ. And I was even considering
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: going back to law and my jewelry store and fashions.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: So if you don't want that or interested in that,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I suppose I'll have to think about your offer.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, okay, So we just thought this would be
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: an exciting opportunity because now you can finally do traders,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: you can become the Watch with Happens.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Live band as the DJ. So what do you say, Meredith?
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I was not aware that the Watch What Happens Live
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: had a band?
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Andy it will now, Meredith, we've been waiting. Someone's waiting
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: for you come on.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: So she's going to be devastated and hurt and then
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: she's gonna call Andy back. Okay, now I'm calling you
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: back as Anton. You're andie.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't hear it. Ringing.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I wanted you to say hello, and then I was
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: going to cut you off with my ring ring. Okay,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Andy Cohen's got the four one one. That's his ringtone,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: King King of Midnight fan teacher. Hello, Andy?
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Is this Meredith and Seth?
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Hey Andy, I'm doing great. I'm thinking about being pan
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: sexual up anyway? What's up, buddy? Big hugs, kisses through
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the phone, Get off of the phone, back all right?
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Later the landline two lines like he's upstairs and.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, get off of the other lines. Sat, Oh, I know, okay,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I'm going to Toledo. Andy. I had a long discussion
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: with Sam and Chloe and Brooks Marks and like Arabis
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: and my mother. Oh, and I for my own mental
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: health and h are you texting right now? Andy?
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Who is who is on the phone?
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: This is Meredith. And I feel that I would be
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: much better served if I stepped down as a housewife
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: and didn't return next season. And I thank you so
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: much for this opportunity.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Well Muzzle of the Week to you, Marey. This is
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a brave step.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I have already posted that I've left the show and
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I thanked you and Ramo TV.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Well we love you. There's always hang on. Yeah, I'm
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: hang on. I'm talking to Lisa on the other line.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's Meredith Meredath. Sorry, sorry, Meredith, I'm sorry.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: What were you were saying something about it?
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I am leaving the show because and I resign cordially
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and respectfully. I thank you for letting me be a
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: part of Ramo history.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Mm mmmmm.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I graciously appreciate the Severn package that oh I heard seference.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: That show is not on Bravo and we don't offer
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: also seference packages.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Now you've got my attention. But I'll tell you what
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: you can. How about this, how about.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: You don't do the show anymore, Meredith? This is we
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: have an exciting opportunity, but you still come back and
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: film two episodes and or we'll let you know when
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: someone's having an event at their house and.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: You can just show up there. It's working great for
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Cherisse in Potomac.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: You're a liar and I'm a delicious despicable person.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I will not respond to that. And I don't even
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: know what a house is. I've never seen a house. Great, goodbye,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: you can leave, all right, Well I think that's how
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: it's gonna go. And okay, you know, I mean, look,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: you can all have ideas on what you think is
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: going to happen, but those are the facts.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Trust Yeah, well it does need a bit of a shape.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I don't not that it needs to shake up. But
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: if it's going to try to.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Refresh itself, salt Lake could see Meredith go. I think
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: that would be a good way to maybe move something.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I don't want Brittany as a full housewife. I don't
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: think I can handle it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, unfortunately I were not ready for that. Yeah,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: and if Lisa is on her own, that's gonna be
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: scary stuff. I don't know how she'll like. That will
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: be a conundrum. I don't know who she will have
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: an hour I ship with.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: She's gonna be so up.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: She will really be trying to befriend Heather and Angie,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: But she she won't be. She definitely has protection in Meredith.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: But like, I think she's going to have to pivot
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: obviously if Meredith isn't there.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know how. I honestly don't know. I mean,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Angie and Lisa they go so hard and then the
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: next second Lisa is just like, and we're good friends
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: because we've been friends since high school. And then the
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: next minute it's like, I will take you down to
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: your studs it's just so weird, you know, these ladies
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: are She was like that savage.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she was like that with Meredith too.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, like she's not been the most savage she
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: was ever was with Meredith.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: And that will always like dumbfound me. As much as
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I am dumbfounded about Wendy on Potomac, this is almost equal.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Where Meredith has a stick up her butt about something
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: with somebody four years she cannot get over anything, and
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: she somehow magically has moved on from Lisa saying those
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: things about her, and I mean it doesn't even make
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: scientific sense.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Do they have some sort of major arrangement. I mean, yeah,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: it's an arranged marriage.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Ting ting.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Ting, That's how Brittany should have come back. I mean,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: if you're gonna do that bullshit, at least do it
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: when it matters on.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: The reunion stage.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Hey Brittany, Hi, I'm so happy.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: To be here. I know you are, I know, you
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: thirsty bitch. She had both of her girls with her
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: at Christmas for the first time and I don't know
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: how long, and that was good news. I'm happy to
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: hear that.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: My main thing with Brittany is that I don't know
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: where to land, what's real and what's not.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: But the thing with her becoming a.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Wife is that I just know that Jared's going to
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: be involved, and when I see her in scenes with Jared,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I just lose all respect.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: In terms of like no backbone.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: And then I think about the girls, and like Andy
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: asked her about having Jared at Bravo Khan with her
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: daughter there, and I just felt bad for the daughter
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: again because here she is having like the special time
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: with her mom and she's got to like manage all
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: these emotions because Jared's there.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know that Jared was just like special, Well, babe,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I mean I got to be there. I mean it's
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: the Unicorn. I mean, the unicorn is going to be
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: there in the museum, probably a big part of the season.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine I am in your life.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, who is this girl? She just showed up
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: from one scene. I've been in this for two seasons.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I don't understand, you know. I mean, and you know
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, I guess you're right.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's it. That's my problem with Brittany.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Right after they were closing out the package for or
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: the segment rather for the plane, okay, And he's like
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: flipping over the card and she's like, babe, or more
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: one more thing, Meridith. If that were me, there'd be
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: an air marshall right here right now. If you did
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: that to me, there be one on the plane when
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: you land, you and there'd be one right here. She's like, grant,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: thank you. I mean, can you, as a passenger like
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: call an air marshal or isn't that kind of up
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: to the actual plane because they see that it's so badly.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you can just be like, hey,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: air marshall, can you come down here right now? This
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: person who's.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: I think that Angie probably was trying to say she
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: would have been bringing in flight attendant like she would
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: have been calling people into action. I don't think she
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: could call in an air marshal.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know. She li that would be up to
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the flight attendant.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: It would which is like I know, so, I mean,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: if there was something that serious going on, the flight
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: attendants would know. I don't think you'd have to go
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: up to them and say something because it would be
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: so bad.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: It seems as though everyone thought it was really bad,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: and they're having some guilt that they didn't do more
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: in the moment because it's become such a big moment
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: and they are having to answer for not doing anything.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting, maybe, yeah, which is why Angie's like
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: she was actually in a worse state on the plane
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: than she was leaving this stage.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's always going to be the measurement of how
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: upset you are. Well, were you as bad as Brittany
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: was on the stage or.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Worse better or worse or unknown factor airplane Brittany.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, unknown airplane Brittany.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I don't.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: It's interesting because that moment became so huge and you
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: really do see like there are probably a lot of
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: things that we don't see that we don't know about,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: and that moment has become so big, and I don't
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: think any of them realized how big it would get.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: And it's not on film, and so they have to
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: add they almost have to answer to the whole audience
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: play by play questions about that moment, like the Genshaw
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: black Eye.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: We just don't know, so they're going to have to
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: answer for it.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe other set a bad precedent for the show
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: because Meredith is able to follow suit. So Heather, you
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: might want to take a little bit of a seat
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: because you did it. You did it too. Yeah, but
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I know that, Like there were witnesses, more witnesses obviously
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: actual witnesses, because Genshaw was a witness, but she wasn't
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: going to speak on it.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Oh with a Genshaw.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I was like, there should be more witnesses to the airplane,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: but like, we're not hearing from anyone.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: You would think, yeah, maybe someone in seventeen c would
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: have seen it, yes or heard it. No, they wouldn't.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: They were so far back there.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: No, but a flight attendant could like sneak in story, yeah,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: like something to do mois, Yeah, anything, just something. But
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: we're not hearing a peep, so it's you know, and
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: it could also.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Be the story, yeah right.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: But also Brittany might have been silently like crying, and
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: they they know her, and so when they're seeing her
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: like shaking and sad, they know what's going on. But
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: it wasn't reading a certain way to anybody sitting around her,
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Like who knows, we don't.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I mean the fact that Meredith can't even admit one
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: thing like even the end of Crazy Rich Asians. She
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: can't even I was sleeping. I mean, Lisa was sleeping.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: It's like, Lis, there's nothing to do with this story.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Just admit something. Can you just say I was out
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: of my mind? Not even that, not even that. She
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: just can't get past anything other than I'm sorry she
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: overheard me venting, Like you think that we're gonna believe
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: that it was just a venting it. It's crazy Rich
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Asians to me that she will not succumb to one thing.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: It is Bonkersville. Bonkersville. Yeah, it would be so much
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: better for her. We would all really like her waye.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I love Meredith, but we'd like her more if she
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: was like you know what, I was really upset and
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I took it too far. Even that would be great,
• 33:13
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• 33:16
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• 33:23
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  Speaker 2: it perfectly. Once you expose one thing in your marriage
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: that's so big and you know you basically are on
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: the breaking point of maybe not continuing, then all the
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: other stuff comes out and everything You're like, you're talking
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: so raw, almost too raw. I thought, wow, that's a
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: really interesting way to expose it and explain it. And
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I thought, well, I wonder what's going to happen. You know,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: they obviously are slugging through it. She seems to be
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: taking a lot of responsibility, which was surprising to me.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, especially well, I guess in their relationship. I can
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: see like where she i as soon as that conversation
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: or at this interview or whatever this moment of the
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: reunion was with her and Nandy, and she's like, I
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: feel like I'm the reason that things are hitting the
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: fan in my marriage. And I was like, I bet
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: you when all that shit went down recently with the
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: investment and Justin's people and everything in wild Rose, And
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: she's like.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: You did this, you asshole. Blah blah blah blah.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: He's like, you got me fired for being on this show, remember,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: because she he had his comfortable job or whatever, and
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Whitney was being Whitney on a reality show, doing her job.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: But then Justin got fired remember a couple of years ago.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: So I can't just see it all coming out.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, man.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Well if he blames her for that, I'll be like,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: fuck you. You were there too. You could have easily been like, no,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to go on camera and oil your
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: ass on all fours like, so, if that's what he's
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: coming for, I'd say that's not right.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: But I agree, yeah, clearly.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Other things that it is interesting because and I appreciated
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Mary out of all people said no, it's not it's
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: not your fault, or like it's your you know, and
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: she's like, no, I am the one. I mean. For
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Mary to be like, don't be so hard on yourself
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: was on. I couldn't believe my eyes or my ears.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I like rewound it, and I thought, did Mary actually
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: say something to Whitney that was like supportive and in
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: a way that we've never seen before? Pretty cool?
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Well, well, but they have a good thing going because
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: like Whitney and Mary seemed to have, like she invited
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Whitney to the church again this season. Yeah, but I
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: feel like there's more going on with the Justin and
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Whitney thing. And then I thought, oh, maybe she's more
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: open in the marriage, because they alluded to that this
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: season that they had an open marriage.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: So I thought, okay, there's something.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, maybe Oh interesting, I see.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's my theory.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: If she is if they did have an open marriage
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: and she was exercising that you would think in this
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: world like that would be exposed or get out in
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: some way.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Especially in Utah.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, or maybe she wasn't in Utah, which would
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: be the smart, smart thing to do. Yeah, and go
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: overseas for one. Hey, guys, take it from me. I
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: got all the tips.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: I mean that I last reunion, you and I thought
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: they would be divorced. The gossip about the three of
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: these couples won't be together next season. Yes, yeah, and
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: we thought they were. It was going to be Lisa
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: and Whitney and bron Win and we were right on one.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I never thought it was going to be Lisa, no way.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I fully did not vote for Lisa.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: No you did, did you did? Hang on, I got
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the tape.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I would never.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: I feel like, because we had the tip that it
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: was going to be Meredith and Seth, so we were like,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: well who else?
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I thought it was Justin and Whitney
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: for sure. By the way, remember all that stuff that
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: the rumors about, Oh this season Meredith leaves the show right.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: On the vacation, like, yeah, she left a vacation.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: It's so irritating. That's why I hate like blind items
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: and all the gossip that happens about a show that's filming.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I don't want to know. I don't need to know.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I don't like all the chatter.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Good for you, Emily, Yeah that's great, just throw us
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: in a whole other direction. Meredith leaves the show. She
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: does something crazy and they kick her off the show.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: So now it's like, when did she get kicked off?
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Speaking of this is in line exactly with what we're
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: talking about. Prue left Bakeoff anyway.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, liar, No, she did.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: She actually she's not going to be on Bakeoff anymore.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: She's really retiring so she can go to do more
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: gardening and enjoy her anyway.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Oh man really. Oh that's so. It's really sad, but
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: it's also really beautiful and I'm happy for her.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: And that was another one that we said. Next Salt
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Lake reunion, Proof.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Resign not together from Hollywood? No oh no, oh god,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: well now who are they going to get? It's going
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: to be something somebody really special?
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they they I've heard some names, but I don't
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: remember any of them.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Meredith Meredith is one of the names.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Andy calls Meredith Meredith. We've got a great opportunity for you.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Today's challenge bakers will be it's a blind pantry and
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: you're going to make tarts rasbary talk. I'm just getting started.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: What do you have here? Is a bolla taking a
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: pountry and you blind bank that all no things are
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: improving fast and hard.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're supposed to be out here for
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: the blind bake. That's the point. You shouldn't be seeing
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: who's doing this. I make the decisions you can leave, Yes.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end of every episode, and since it's
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: like this beautiful celebration of these people and what they've done.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: At the end, she tells these were people that they
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: can leave, so.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Mean and now I have the greatest job of saying
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: you can leave.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Hit it and she's like.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: DJ DJing in the corner. It's just ruined. The British
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: bakup is ruined. Martin, Your best skip tower was horrmal
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: and you're all Liehart, you can.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I would watch and watch.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Of course we would. Flake. We should get back to
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: this episode. Anyway, Mary fell asleep during Whitney's questioning, and
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I love that Andy called it out. Was I was?
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: I was just going like this, Yeah, no one remembers
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: anything their body does on this show.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Apparently, was was. I. So, let's talk about Lisa's moment
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: when she actually becomes vulnerable and starts talking about I mean,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: I know that her crying is nothing new, because she
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: will cry over anything, right, her.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Voice changed there.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: It was as though a human, like a caring human,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: came into being.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Like I heard it.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I heard it.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think I'm crazy.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: No, I heard it too. And then these fucking Salt
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Lake City couches couldn't slow their goddamn roles and they
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: ruined it. They ruined it all. They've ruined it all, mother,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, know when to shut up, because, like
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: if somebody who doesn't share, notoriously doesn't share, and his
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: theory controlled about their brand and their narrative and they're
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: actually starting to peel back like a little bit, what
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: you don't what you don't do is talk over them
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: and tell them how wrong they are in that moment
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: and what they're doing is not right, but they're right.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was like one after another. It was
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Angie and then it was Heather, and then I don't
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: know who else, but no wonder she shut up.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: I would too, you too, And I have a feeling,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, I wish we could have a reunion of
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: the reunion is a feeling.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: When they watched that back, especially like.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Heather, She's going to be like, uh, we should have
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: like let that one ride a little because I was like,
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: do you I felt like they don't hear this, Like
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: they literally don't hear.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: This, because I think that they got in their own
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: way and not all bad intentions. I also see where
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: they're coming from. They were trying to encourage her that
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: she was okay, and that's a normal thing to happen
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: in a relationship. And this is what Andy was talking about,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: that these are the moments that they appreciate. So I
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: get that their intentions were good, but you also have
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: to know how to share those share your encouragements. And
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: their tone was like yelly.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: It was And I got what Lisa because for Lisa,
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: what she was talking about was sounded like.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: A huge moment in her marriage because of the show.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: I got everything she was saying in that moment, and
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: I did want to hear more, and I did want
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: to hear like this because she was self reflecting. She
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: just wasn't saying the exact words that they wanted to hear.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: And I think she probably would have gotten there if
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: they hadn't, to your point, jumped all over.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: And also baby steps for somebody like that, somebody like Lisa.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Who baby gorgeous steps.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Right right, you know, I mean you got to crawl first. Yeah,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: because Lisa is an infant when it comes to I mean,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: John is right, she doesn't listen. We all know she
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: doesn't listen. Yeah, and her it's just all excuses. So
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: when and I thought it was pretty funny when Mary's like,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: if your husband tells me you're not a good listener,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: you're not a good listener. But you know it's not necessary.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: That's obviously not necessarily the case. But in this case,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: you're looking at who John is, and I think if
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: John is saying you're not a good listener, you're probably
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: not a good listener. Okay, Yeah, he's not saying that
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: you don't listen. It's just in certain situations you know
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: you're not a good listener. And so all of her
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: excuses are coming out through the pain, but that's also
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: a gateway to understanding. So if she could just talk
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: it through and have a little bit of encouragement, that
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: would be nice. But any mean, they're not all therapists,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: they're just they're housewives that are very val at all.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: But when she was coming through with like John says
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: that I am not a good listener and they'll go
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: so heartbroken, And then was like, but then how do
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: I get John's shirts all pressed? And how do I
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: do this? And how do I do that? And how
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: do I pick up all of the taco bell and
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: how do I do this? It's like, well, this is
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: the point you're just well, those are like, those are errands,
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: and those are things that you're doing. You're doing a
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: lot of work, You're doing everything. It sounds like you're
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: doing everything. But yeah, and so those things where you
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: probably feel like, since I'm doing everything, I don't owe
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: you anything. I don't owe you to have to pause
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: and listen to what you're saying about you know, everything
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: is fine. I'm perfect, is what I feel like it is.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Yeah, I don't love that John did what he
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: did on camera because I think Lisa gets enough of
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: it on camera, and that's the other thing we're not
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: she just doesn't hear.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: It on Cara.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, from that, he slammed her, she did. He he
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: body slammed her as much as I appreciated though that
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: he did that, because it makes us not feel crazy
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: watching it. John, do you see this. I also think he's,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: you know, he needs to represent himself. He doesn't want
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: to be a doormat. He doesn't want to right like,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: so I think that it's important for him to speak
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: his truth as well. He's on this show as well,
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: and I think like it was okay for him to
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: be irritated in that moment. They're filming all the time,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: so if that was one moment on top of like
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: hours and hours and he kind of like got annoyed,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: that's just like a regular relationship. And that's their point. Oh,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: this is so real, This is so normal. We all
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: do this right, and it's okay. But Lisa, her reaction
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: was so at a two hundred that she's like so
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: upset that there could be any cracks ever seen in
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: her or her marriage, which says a lot about her
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: need to always be perfect, which is really a problem yeah.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: I wish that we would have had all the ben
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Affleck information prior to the reunion.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, tell the people, tell the darlings.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean just that.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's been everywhere that ben Affleck doesn't
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: know who she is. But I not just I just
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: want to hear what she has to say on that.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: I want Andy to ask, yeah, in the court of
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: the reunion by Judge Andy, and then I want to
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: hear what she says.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I can tell you how that would go. I can
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: tell you how that would go go ahead, Andy.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: So we recently heard in an interview that ben Affleck
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: does not recall working with you.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: What a stinker. I saw that and I laughed so hard.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: I was like, Benny, oh my god. We were working.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: We literally bumped elbows. And I can tell you because
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: this is the elbow that he bumped. And I was
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: wearing a Versatje blazer that day and it left him
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: mark because he was actually where, yeah, chalk on his
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: on his jacket and he got on mine. And I
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: can show you that jacket. But he doesn't. He's such
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: a big celebrity, he doesn't remember everybody. But I can't
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: believe he doesn't remember me. I mean, who doesn't remember me,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: so he would didn't shoot it?
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, that's.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: My take, you know what I mean.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: No, I think that's accurate. I think it's accurate.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's move on to Bronwin. Oh yeah,
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: that was haavy.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when she also went down the list
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: of what Toad did on the weekend, where he or
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: whatever in one week, read every comment on social media,
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: watched every I mean the every season of Salt Lake
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: got got on social media for the first time.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that is insane.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: I know that he didn't get it, like he doesn't
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: he didn't understand what he was doing to himself, but
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: any anybody would say this is not good.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: He boy, did he commit. He went in so hard
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: and it just shows me, well just me personally, but like, no,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: wonder he's so successful because that's how hard he probably
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: goes at everything that he does and his work like
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: that is the biggest deep dive in a week. This
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: is like a retreat, you know. And I can't believe
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: that he actually saw it through. I would have thought
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: he started in season one and like you know, then
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: he like skipped to bron Win season you know, to
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: think that he went through all that then he went
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: on redded deep dives. I mean, he did the work,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: he showed up, and you know what, he's one of
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: us now. So I'm gonna have him on the podcast
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: next week. We're gonna recap actually vander Pump Rules and
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: see what he thinks about the new cast. No, I
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: mean I actually on some level respect that he did that,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: because you know, they are separated, but they're not divorced yet.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: So if he can get a handle on what this
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: is and is accepting of what this is on some level,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: which I think he's not. Obviously he wasn't hasn't been
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: from the beginning, but like maybe his olive branch to her,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: or his way of somehow doing work on his end
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: is like, let me understand your world. Let me understand
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: this world that now you are in, so I can
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: get my head around what's happening here, because I can't
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: even imagine what that must be like as an outsider
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: to this niche that we are all part of. We
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: have woven such a tapestry that insiders can only understand it.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Like when you're on the outside, it looks like a
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: foreign land and then you take someone's cherry off their
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: ice cream and you're getting sacrificed for it. Yeah, so like,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense. It wouldn't make sense to me.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: I would be like, what, especially if I didn't have
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: the strongest marriage, And there's a lot of blind spots
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: which we all have when we're in it. And honestly, yeah.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: I was just surprised he didn't watch the show before
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: she was actually filming.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: You would think I would.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: I was surprised that he hadn't, Like you would think,
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: given his need to know everything in terms of business,
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: you'd want to understand that.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Well, that's that's the thing he under That's what people do,
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: is they underestimate the power of the Real Housewives, the
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: outsiders do. But we know how powerful this platform is
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: because that's it destroys people. It builds them up, it
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: destroys them. It completely recalibrates people's lives in such a
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: way that they never would expect. Which is why I
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: think at the end of this conversation, her acknowledgment of
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: do I think, I don't think think the show is
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: the cause for our marriage, but it may have sped
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: it up, which is what many people say you know,
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: it highlights the problems, the cracks in it. And Okay,
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: so all that said, and of course I feel bad
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: for Bronwyn that she's going through this. I understand where
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: she's made sacrifices in her marriage and how she feels
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: like not seen and everything's been for Todd and stuff
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: like that. And so if I may push all that
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: aside for a minute, and I want to point out
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: something that I feel like, I you know, you may
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: think I'm traitorous for saying this, but I absolutely am
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: going to stand by this and say, well, no shit,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Todd doesn't want to be on the show. No shit,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: your marriage is destroyed because you came on a reality
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: show and you exposed your husband for who he is
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: and how badly he treats you. So what do you
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: think was going to happen? So in my opinion, whether
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: she did this consciously or subconsciously, this is no surprise.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: And I understand that she's mourning the loss of who
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Todd was and who he is now. But I also
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: am not really buying it because why would you think
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: that your husband would want you to talk to your
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: quote unquote friends about potentially having an open marriage, Because
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: you're referring to your friends as people on this show
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: that you just met, and you're going on the show
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: and talking about how your marriage is so bad. So
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: when she's like, oh my, I don't think that he
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: will want me to do this show because it will
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: magnify the cracks in our marriage and he doesn't want that,
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: tier tier tier, Well no kidding, who wants that? Do
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: you expect? Of course he doesn't want that. So why
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: is Todd the bad guy there? He's not the bad guy? There?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Is he the bad guy for how their dynamics were
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: in their relationship? That's up to them. Seems like it
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: seems like kind of a jerk whatever.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: But I don't think that proposed him a bad person either.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's no but she's but she's crying over
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: how he's different now than he was before. Well that's
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: because you're calling him out in front of a public platform.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I think she almost had to do that to get out.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's not my point. My point is
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: she whether she did it consciously or subconsciously, it doesn't matter.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: She needed to do it, she wants to get out.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: But for her to start questioning or being sad about
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: how boy, oh boy, I'm so sad for me because
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Todd doesn't want to do this. He gets mad at
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: me for talking to my friends about our marriage. No,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: it's not that simple. You're talking about your marriage on TV.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: So call it what it is. Let's not sugarcoat what
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: it is. I don't.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: I didn't feel like she was sugarcoating it. But I
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: see what you're saying, Like that always is weird when
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: people are like my friends, the friend group, this friend.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Group, it's like the production.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I get that they're told to do that,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: but I get I guess that it's like yeah, when
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: I when I see bron Wynn talking about all of it, I'm.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't think she I do.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's very real, and I think she
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: realizes that, like she doesn't really have a way out
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: unless she puts this thing on blast to really see
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: for herself. Because even her family, like, I don't know
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: about her daughter, but I certainly got the vibe better.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Mom and dad liked Todd more than her. They liked
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: they Like we're basically saying like all this is because.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Of Todd, and yeah, and a lot of it was financially,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: but right, right, I don't know. And also it seems
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: like in terms of her daughter, Todd and her daughter
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: have a very like close relationship. So that was there's
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: a lot going on that she I think, to your point,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: subconsciously or not. I think it must have been subconsciously.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: She's like, I need to blow this up.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she blew it. And good for her because she.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, he was stepping out on her all
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: the time, like apparently allegedly, you know, that's annoying. She
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: was downplaying her worth. It seems like in the marriage constantly.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: So I don't have a problem with her wanting to
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: get away from him. I think it's absolutely justified. What
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: I don't really like is the instance the untrue like.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so surprised that he would hate this.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, it doesn't make sense. It's like
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: she's too she's too smart for that or too smart
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: for that, And it makes it look like she's less
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: of a victim of him when she talks like that,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: because it's happened she's doing that.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I would say the same thing about
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: her mother.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: She put her mother on TV right to explore, like's
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: she is not an unintelligent person. She's seen the Housewives.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: She knows what it's about. She can Her package is
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: a dysfunctional marriage, an abusive mom in the world of Mormonism,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: a child that has its own conflicts from how it began.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, everything for her is like the perfect package
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: for a housewife. And she knows that obviously or else
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: she wouldn't have been in that position. And clearly casting
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: did too, which is brilliant. So don't get me wrong.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: I absolutely I love Bronwyn. I love her on the show,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: but I don't like feigning victimhood when I believe that
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: she can take a little more responsibility or be a
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: little bit more forthcoming about how you know it takes
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: two to tango at this point in her life and
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: being on the show, not what's been done in the past,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: but right now. Yeah, And I think that her like
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: she did say something about her mom, like and she's
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: on this show. Didn't she say something like and I
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: feel bad because yeahs if it weren't for me or something.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: Like the fallout with her mom being on. I think
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: with her mom, Bronwin was like, I'm just gonna film
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: with my mom. She's a character and she's hard on me,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: and if people get a read on her that's a
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: little off, well, that will be validating for me. And
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: I feel like I stand by Bronwyn on that good
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: And I think Bronwyn did not anticipate all of us
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: being like, you're very correct on your gut feelings about
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: your mom, Bronwyn, and we all see it and she
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: is not good to you. And I think Bronwyn was
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: not anticipating the wall of support backlash against her mom
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: that then she'd have to answer for privately with her mother.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: I just don't think she saw that coming the way
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: it did.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Maybe she didn't think it would come in as hard
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: as it did for both her mom or Todd, But
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I fully believe that. I actually
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: think that she may have been a little bit more
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: aware going in than we're giving her credit for. And
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: that's just kind of a set that's like a sad
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: thing to say, because you wouldn't think that about someone
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: like her because she seems so sincere. But you cannot
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: tell me for one second that there has got to
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: be raging anger in her rage.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if i'd been told I was wrong my whole
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: life by this person.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: You better believe I'd be like, why don't she go
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: and tell America some of your cools? Well then what? Okay?
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: So then why are you saying that she didn't do
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: that on purpose?
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: I don't think she anticipated the non stop waves of
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: memes in going in on her mom's looks and all.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: I don't think she thought, you know, she can't control
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: the edit. I think maybe she thought it would be
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: like a haha kind of deal. But I don't think
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: she anticipated us all being like.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Fuck this, you know, Like I agree, I disagree. And
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: I also think that the tears that we were seeing
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: from her are tears of remorse for actually following through
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: with this, because it hurts to see her mom hurt,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: and vengeance is not as good as you thought it
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: would be. And now listen, I could be wrong, and
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: that's fine.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Mom did it to herself.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: Though that's the other thing that it might be guilt too,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: because it's not like Broun went.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, Bronwin was giving her a lot of chances
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: off while they were filming.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Oh and Bronwyn exactly which, but Bronwyn knew what her
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: mom would do every single time, because I'm sure she's
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: been giving her mom lots of chances over the years,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: and every single time she teased it up, her mom
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: punts it every single time, and so there was no
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: reason to believe she wouldn't do that on camera. So
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: what Bronwyn got is exactly what she wanted to get,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: which is that Todd is finally looking at himself for
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: the asshole that he is. Right, did that cherry thing
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: really be? That? Was it really that bad? Do I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: not actually really listen to you? And her mom saying
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't realize that I didn't support you
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: as much. I thought that I was this. I thought
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: that I was that. And Bronwin's understanding now, which is
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: what Heather was able to articulate, which is when she
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: said those things to you, she was mostly saying it
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: to the Mormon community so that she could still see
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: as her show her allyship for them for Mormonism. So
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: I think Bronwin understands that more. Bronwin got everything she
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: wanted to, but in a hard way. So yeah, Bronwin
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: is sort of she got all the validation that she
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: needed from everybody on between Todd and Muzzy, so we
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: support her, like we see it. Yeah, how does that
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: feel to be finally seen, finally after all these years
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: like treated like shit from everybody. Yeah, and so now
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: she's I think it's going to be a whole new
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: era for her. I wonder what's gonna happen. She obviously
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: says she doesn't know where her and Todd are going
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: to go. And do you think that they're going to
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: try and still work it out?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're going to try. But she
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: also just booked bake Off. She's replacing Prue on me.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, that actually would be nice. Okay, Baker's on today.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: We're gonna look under the Gingham pantry and see what
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: we have here? Wow? All right, well that look. I
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: hope you all heard me out before yelling at the
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: at your phones or whatever.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: But I don't think you said anything too crazy.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: I think the keyword there's her term is subconscious, Like
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know I can see some part of her,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: Like I don't think she was up in her trader's
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: turret like we're gonna, I'm gonna maliciously take these people
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: down one by one. I think she was like they
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: might feel the burn a little and then it just
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: was like boom, it blew up. But I think she
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: absolutely and I don't fall her for it. I probably
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: do the same. Wanted them to feel a little bit
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: of what get a little dose?
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll tell you what you know. Vengeance is
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: uh oh, it is bitter. It is a bitter pill
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: to swallow. All right, Well, I don't think there's anything
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: else that we can talk. I mean, look, Heather and
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Meredith are not friends. We already talked about Meredith, So.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Brono is really the key takeaway of the whole
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: third episode for me.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: All Right, what a season, what a cast? Wow guys,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Wow wow wow. Thanks thanks for taking the journey with us.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Don't tell bron when I talked about her. Now let
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: her know you read what you saw. I'm saying that
• 1:10:17
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• 1:10:20
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