515 | How Public Defense is Failing in Rural California w/Rio Scharf and Josh Schwartz

Public Defenseless · Sep 15, 2026 · 54m

On this episode, Hunter speaks with Rio Scharf and Josh Schwartz to discuss a report detailing the incredible failing of public defense in rural California.

Guest:

Rio Scharf, Staff Attorney, UC Berkeley Law's Criminal Law and Justice Center

Josh Schwartz, Principal, Wren Collective

Resource:

Read the Report Here:

https://wrencollective.org/contracted-to-fail-part-2-how-flat-fee-contracts-undermine-the-right-to-counsel-in-california/

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