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Here’s How Trump Could Become Speaker in 2023 (& Decertify 2020) – Ivan Raiklin Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So it's some more hopeful news. Nancy Pelosi may be forced to pass her gavel to Trump if Republicans dominate the midterm elections, which they should. And according to my guest today, Trump could actually become the speaker of the house in 2023 without even being elected, which also means that he could potentially impeach Biden.
• 0:28
  Of course, the rhinos and legacy media are calling the idea ridiculous. But in fact, it's highly possible and even probable. And Ivan Ranklin, a lawyer and former special forces and intelligence officer, will be joining us today to explain exactly how this could unfold. But first, today's show is brought to you by Rise TV, a Patriot owned streaming platform. With all the big tech censorship and the monetization going on right now, the subscribers at Rise TV are literally the reason I can bring you this critical information today.
• 0:57
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• 1:22
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• 3:58
  And that information is also in the description below. Alright, folks. So I have a guest with me today, which I'm really happy to have on. And we've been trying to coordinate this for quite some time. And I think you I think you're gonna love today's show.
• 4:12
  And look, there's some there's some crazy stuff happening in the world. There's a lot of doom and gloom stuff. And so this is it's a what we're talking about today is a very real possibility. We're gonna have some fun with it because we could use a little bit of brevity in today's dark world. So let's go ahead and bring on my guest, mister Ivan Ranklin.
• 4:27
  Thank you, Ivan, so much for joining me today.
• 4:31
  Speaker 2: No. I appreciate it, Seth. Yeah, hopefully it's a little bit of levity. If I to not remedy all the pain that we've endured over the last two to six years at a minimum.
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, man, I couldn't I
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: appreciate you.
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that we're actually we're gonna be the opposite of having brevity on today's show. We're gonna be talking talking your ears off, folks. So, Ivan, let's just start with just give us your quick background of, you know, a, like your your your history with the special forces and intelligence, but also how you got involved in the the two thousand twenty election with what happened. And before we do that, though, I wanna just say quickly to the YouTube viewers, I I apologize, but we're gonna talk about a lot of the details of what really happened in 2020.
• 5:17
  And if we have this conversation on YouTube, then I'll get kicked off of it. It's actually that's like, by God's grace, I'm still on YouTube anyway. So if you're watching on YouTube or Facebook, because both those places don't like the truth, please, please go watch on Rumble. There's a link in the description or just go to Rumble and search for Man in America. And in general, I encourage you to start using Rumble instead of Facebook and YouTube anyway.
• 5:41
  Because they're just that data, I in my understanding is going straight to China. They're using it against us. So let's just use, you know, get out of their systems altogether. So, Dom, you can go ahead and cut the Facebook and YouTube streams. And I encourage folks to come join us over on Rumble.
• 5:59
  So sorry about that, Ivan. Just wanna I want you to give us the true history without the censored version of it.
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: So we're completely off then?
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: We're good enough. Yep.
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: Yep. We're doing platforms. Okay, excellent. So no, I appreciate you doing that. I know it's, it's a big leap, because most people do have a big audience, sizable audience on there.
• 6:19
  It's incumbent on us, you as leaders to be able to pull folks off, and to really expose them to, whether it's alternative hypotheses. And then at the end of the day, it's from my perspective, what I can lay out is essentially the truth of what I experience, right? So a little bit about my background. You asked first and foremost, professionally, I've spent the last quarter of essentially, quarter of a century up until August 30, serving in some way, shape, form in military, active guard reserve, or in a civilian contract capacity within our national security apparatus. What does that mean?
• 6:57
  In detail, I happen to have an opportunity to serve to counter ISIS, Taliban, MS-thirteen, Russian aggression across four continents in five languages and pretty much unscathed. You know, a few little scratches here and there, but nothing too major. And I essentially served as a Green Beret commander, Intelligence Officer, Military Diplomat, both I mentioned OCONUS, meaning overseas, as well as serving on the Ukraine Crisis Team of all places in 2014 in the Pentagon. We may get to that a little bit. But a lot of the things that are coming out in today's world that were censored by folks like the John Brennan's and the 59 other friends of his, where they published a piece in Politico saying that this is all the earmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign, meaning the Hunter Biden criminal syndicate laptop.
• 7:55
  Yeah, all that's been debunked. And I'm glad to see a lot of this stuff coming out that at that time in 2014, I kind of witnessed some of it in real time from the failed vice president Biden, now pronounced Zhijidin, and then his son as they operated in Ukraine. So as well as John Brennan. But I'm not sure how much we're going go into that. That's just a general overview of generally what I had been doing.
• 8:23
  And just to give a little bit of context to why that's relevant to your second part of the question is, when did I get involved in the twenty twenty election? So understanding somebody's background that has served as a tactical, operational and strategic level soldier, if you will, officer, you're able to, you know, you have conducted operations at the tactical level, you've planned at the operational level, as well as to have strategic impact at a strategic national and sometimes global impact on when you're planning. That coupled with the times when I was in the reserves in the National Guard during my career, I happened to obtain a law degree, became an attorney. So I kind of had this dual parallel track, if you will, especially particularly in the times where I wasn't doing active military service or deployed to some of these places. So in 02/2005, I obtained my law degree, passed the bar exam, and then did a little bit on the side in terms of national security law, constitutional law.
• 9:31
  And then fast forward to 2020, we witnessed what we witnessed. And it didn't sit well, that's probably exactly why you got involved with what you're doing now, Seth. But for me it was more, I think it goes back even more visceral than that. For me personally, in 2014, when I served in the Defense Intelligence Agency, when General Michael T. Flynn was the director of the DIA, that's when I would say my story begins on why I am going all in and I really don't care what happens to me.
• 10:09
  Because for me, the truth is much more important than anything they can throw at me. And so that's kind of the overview, depending on where we go, we can go into details on that. But essentially, that took me from there over to, I may have to move the cat outside of the room here in the background, give me one second.
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: Sure, sure. And also, just, know you can still hear me, but I think that one thing that I wanna say to folks is that during this interview, we're absolutely gonna be talking about one of the biggest kind of complaints I see within the patriot community, which when they say, look, we gotta fix 2020. You know, talk of Trump in the speaker role is is is kinda silly talk without talking about fixing twenty twenty. So I wanna give you a chance to move your cat, but I also wanted to address that because we're we're we're gonna definitely dig into that in this conversation. So, anyway, back into where your
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: story was starting agree with that wholeheartedly. That twenty twenty is still the focus. But time continuum still shifts, If you will, the clock ticks. So we need to operate on a multilayered front. Twenty twenty is still the most important thing to remedy, but we still have to still participate because the rest of society is participating in a twenty twenty two election.
• 11:26
  And then we have to start impacting things in 2023, right? So I'm sorry, just wanted to throw that in there.
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: No, it's important. But yeah, so you were telling us about basically working with the Defense Intelligence Agency, I believe. And that's kind of where your story started. That's where you were at.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: Right. So since we are on that topic, in 2010, I had the opportunity to, when it came out, a report written by General Michael T. Flynn, when he was the senior intelligence officer in Afghanistan, he wrote a piece called Fixing Intel. And that was my first touch point, really knowing who this individual was, right? And in that, it literally wrote all the issues, failures, missteps, if you will, fraud, waste and abuse even, of the intelligence community as it operated on a battlefield in Afghanistan.
• 12:25
  And so to me, that was an indication of, wow, we have somebody at a senior level actually calling it out what it is, speaking truth to power. And that's being done in a way that's very public, very risky, right? And so I thought to myself, and I read through it, a couple of quotes and they're very, to this day are very important. And so that was in the back of my mind in 2010. But then when he came back later on to be the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, you could see some of the cultural, now without getting into the details, but the cultural injection just by virtue of him stepping in in the leadership position, it was night and day.
• 13:09
  We moved from a very aloof, I would say culturally speaking organization to a very focused, mission focused, a lot more organized, more flat communications going on amidst from senior down to the lower levels, as opposed to more of a top down driven. And that's the culture that he brought in from a book by one of his previous cop, one of the folks that he worked for, General McChrystal, who since took a different path in life and didn't want to remedy some of these unconstitutional activities in 2020. So you can see where that played out. But nonetheless, back in the time they worked together and they had this philosophy of team of teams. That's the name of the book that was written by General Stanley McChrystal.
• 13:57
  And that essentially flattened your decision making process. And I'm going to tie this into what essentially I observed in 2020. That's why I'm going in this direction. So it was essentially your tactical operator at the ground literally has the ability to communicate with the two three star general of that higher level command to then iterate at a very high speed level to then incorporate any negative issues or reinforce any of the positives that were observed in that particular operation. And it's a constant interim process which improved.
• 14:31
  And then you would make things happen based on who had the information at the right time, based on where they're located, right? So it was kind of a networked, informal network, but still a very effective mechanism. Fast forward to 2014, that sort of approach was ingested into when he was the director of the DIA. And that sort of culture, I think you've probably seen since then has operated. And that I think that's in a network or decentralized networked globe.
• 15:06
  That is something that we can really effectively do, right? Rather than having me to be in a centralized location. So fast forward to 2016, we know what happened with that election. And then fast forward into 2020. When I got involved was essentially on November 5, I believe it was.
• 15:28
  I noticed that Mayor Giuliani, Corey Lewandowski, Pam Bondi, some other other players in the Trump world and Trump campaign were up in Philadelphia trying to make sense of what just happened in Pennsylvania. You remember, recall that?
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: So, me being in Northern Virginia, I decided it was basically that weekend to go up there and make a determination for myself because at that time, was a volunteer on the Veterans for Trump Advisory Board as a national surrogate. So, know, volunteered in my private capacity, off duty, right? And I went up there just take a look to see what was going on, see where I can assist based on my understanding and knowledge of the twenty five years of what I just explained. Just imagine how that could help inform and shape the ability to not only communicate, coordinate, but also assess if you will, a situation. And then add on top of that, me being an attorney, particularly focused on constitutional law issues.
• 16:35
  And most of society did not know how a presidential election actually is conducted in early, late November. That started to become a thing, probably I'd say in mid December, especially in our community, because at that point, everybody realized how this thing works.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We're talking about the electors and whether we'll certify the state.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: The president I learned that whole
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: process after, you know, after the election was stolen and and looking at it, because I think everyone's in in problem solving mode. It's like, okay, how do we fix this? How does it work? Right?
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Right. And so I took it based on my background. I'm looking to my left. I'm looking to my right. I didn't see anybody in the campaign really just articulating at a national scale, you know, in structured communications manner of how this could play out.
• 17:27
  It was piecemeal is what I felt. And so I reached out to folks that I knew that were somewhat had the ability and the courage, if you will, to kind of step forward and they were giving me information on what's going on. The key states I was trying to organize and coordinate as well as motivate folks that this ain't even close to being over. Right? Because a lot of people, especially those were most of the people in the White House were like, you know what?
• 17:54
  It's over. A lot of the people in the campaign, you know what? It's over. Because they didn't know. They thought that, alright, popular vote, that's it, done deal.
• 18:04
  Well, popular vote coupled with a contested popular vote nullifies that, then you got the legislature's governor and then the congress. All those have a factor in So I took to Twitter and posted my daily, I don't know if you caught it because it got quite a bit of traction. I put out once or twice a day, my electoral projection map based on the electoral contact construct and the US constitution construct twelfth amendment, of how that plays out. Well, it went a little bit counter to your popular vote reporting in the mainstream media. And then I was immediately LinkedIn and Twitter were saying I was spreading misinformation.
• 18:48
  And then I would screen grab it and say, hey, look, my misinformation apparently is the electoral contact in The US constitution. And then they would renege because, I mean, we have what, 20, 20 five year old non lawyers that are basically saying that, hey, this does not meet the standard of what the mainstream saying, so then it's false. It's the other way around. We learned that, right? So fast forward, I think the biggest thing I was known for before we get into the speakership component of why we need to go that route in order to fix things.
• 19:20
  I just kind of want to lay the framework of what some bad actors did in this time, which need more, I think, visibility. So on December 23, under the Electoral Count Act, in one of the sections that stated that if by the fourth Wednesday, the president of the Senate did not receive, and I argued constitutionally viable slates of electors, then it was incumbent on that federal, the first federal officer in the process, meaning the vice president, the president of the Senate, to send a memo back to the states to say, hey folks, you six states conduct transmitted electoral slates that were conducted the underlying election was conducted illegally, not according to your state election law. And as a federal officer, I have to defend the US constitution. You guys decide how you're gonna do it. I'm just telling you, you violate it the way you did it.
• 20:14
  So you can either do a reelect you do a new election according to your election law. COVID does not matter. But he he had a conflict of interest because he was the one that headed up the CCP nineteen task force. Right? That probably doled out the massive amounts of money that ended up coming back to his cronies.
• 20:32
  Right? Mikey Pence. And then he was the one that provided top cover over Deborah Birx, Anthony Fauci. He has yet to be investigated on that. That's one of the components of what we're gonna do when we take over in the Congress.
• 20:45
  Number two, the states could have abstained, right, and not sent an electoral slate pending their resolution of what they felt was the right path to go with those electors. Or number three, probably the easiest one, the legislature of that state there, they could have had a joint session. He would have sent the memo on December 23 or December 24, or they could have waited till January 2, January third, whatever. As long as before January 6, could have said, you know what? Here's a joint session and we're gonna go ahead and allocate our electors in such a manner.
• 21:22
  I I didn't ask Mike Pence to tell them how to vote. All we did was ask Mike Pence to tell them they violated the constitution. They have to they have to fix it. So they could reaffirm Biden electors. I wouldn't be happy, but I would be the first one to say congratulations.
• 21:40
  You constitutionally secured that election, and unfortunately, I can now call you president rather than resident, where the p is silent. But we're still in this constitutional crisis where the current person squatting in the White House, their title is the Chinese Communist Party ambassador and not a resident where the P is not silent.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I like the term hand puppet. You know, Xi Jinping's hand puppet.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Right. Hand puppin, pronounced with a dash, right? So All these different terms.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Ivan, where does this lead us? Because I know that, like, ref Matt Gaetz, for instance, there's been a lot of people that have say they're saying, look, we can actually, if we take back the house, which is expected, it seems like the senate is contested, you know, according to the polls, which are we we know that's all just complete lies anyway. Right? And we know it should be a red tsunami. It's kinda like the the question is how much are they gonna cheat and where are they gonna cheat?
• 22:40
  But let's assume that we do take back the house.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: How much are we going to let them cheat?
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: That's a good point too. I think it's
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: We're taking over. I'm always positive. Good. They're gonna try. We're gonna literally be breathing down their necks.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So Sorry. I know that It's okay. No. I think that, you know, I know that that Trump has responded to the whole idea of him being speaker a few times.
• 23:02
  Like, oh, you know, we'll see what happens. I could be interested. Not really. But where do, you know, where do you see that this is at? Because this isn't a new concept.
• 23:10
  Right? And this is something that was introduced Right. Upwards of a year ago. But where do you see that we're at heading into this election? And what could happen?
• 23:19
  And why do you think because when I was talking to you before the show, you seem to think that based on the intel you're getting that that Trump is seeing as a potential viable option.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I when this started, after the second impeachment hoax in February of twenty twenty one, when that when when President Trump was exonerated fully, there were still, I even argued this back in the day, were still methods to remedy the situation that we're in. And as we've been getting to the point where the state legislatures and the secretaries of state did not over the course of the last year really do their constitutional duty, meaning decertify the illegally certified election or the state legislature. After meeting with Speaker Robin Voss, I was in the room with several other people to include Johnny Eastman others, as well as meeting with President Karen Phan. It just seemed as though that while they knew the right thing to do was to decertify culturally or just there was lack of courage to do so at a minimum. And maybe there were some other things nefarious related to it.
• 24:36
  So in the absence of having the ability to remedy 2020 under the existing elected officials, really the only step to remedy 2020, and this is why I say a Speaker Trump is the remedy for 2020 because we've gotten so far down the path. So when we get folks like Mark Fincham in Arizona to be Secretary of State, Christina Caramo in Michigan, Doug Mastriano gets to appoint his Secretary of State, Pennsylvania, and so does Dan Cox in Maryland. And Jim Marchant is going to be a Secretary of State in Nevada. My gut feeling tells me that the very first thing that they're going to do after they get sworn in is to decertify 2020 if I was a betting man. And if I'm listening to this show, I would encourage you, all of us collectively, to ensure that they do what they ran on, which is exactly that, to remedy 2020 and decertify that election.
• 25:33
  Now, while the states are doing that, to go back, I know it's a long route to your Speaker House component. While those states are doing that to remedy their twenty twenty election, only way, I think, to get our nation, I set the TF arrangements through them, over to demanding the restatement in a very visceral manner, Speaker Trump, or I should say President Trump, is to have him to be Speaker. And in the constitution, it does not say you have to be a current member of the Congress to be the Speaker. That is something within the purview of the majority member party of Congress to decide who their speaker is. Okay?
• 26:21
  Now in order for that to happen, it has to be what? There has to be a Republican majority. But even more so, there has to be more America First Freedom Caucus members of the Republican Party than there are, at a minimum, more than the threshold margin between what the lead is between the Republicans and the Democrats. And even better, if we have more America First Freedom Caucus members of Congress than we have in the entire Republican Caucus, then it's, would say we're in a position where it's almost guaranteed should President Trump want to become Speaker, we are in that position. But I say at a minimum, and I think we're gonna have it.
• 27:05
  I mean, if we, for example, have a majority by five votes and we have six America First candidates of that caucus, that means we have the necessary leverage needed to make sure that Kevin McCarthy listens to the plan and will support. As part of this plan, when people say no, President Trump is the rightful president, my plan that I'm putting forward, I don't wanna say it's not my plan. It's the constitutional path to remedy. It's our plan based on all of my interactions with thousands of people, never stopping a single day to essentially formulate this with all the different thought leaders that you thought of. So we go into, here's how it would work.
• 27:48
  Day one, January third, is when the one hundred and eighteenth Congress gets sworn in. So then we have first order of business. You vote for your Speaker of the House. Assuming we have the requisite majority like we played out, Kevin McCarthy is gonna be interested in becoming Speaker because that's what he wants. We say, Mr.
• 28:06
  McCarthy, we will support you to be the Speaker of the House after the following is done. Meaning at the earliest we will allow you to be the Speaker of the House on January 20 at 1PM. Why January 20 at 1PM? Because that is the midpoint of this current term of the current resident. So that if someone goes in like Trump, that does not
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Ivan, can you repeat that
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Term, so he's on for reelection and back up.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Sorry. Mean, you cut out. There's a the connection's little
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: bit Yes.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Poor. So So you're saying that what would happen after January 20? God,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: it's getting excite it's getting exciting. So on January you gotta remember that some people consider the guy currently in the White House as a resident with where the P is not silent. So making that assumption or like let's taking that for what it is, then under normal circumstances, if a person becomes a president for less than half of the four year term, that constitutionally does not count as being one term of your two that you're able to be in office for as a president. So when we reinstate Trump after one p. M.
• 29:30
  On 01/20/2023, he can run for another term.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: So he's still eligible for 2024. Whereas say like, if he got reinstated today, hypothetically, then that would still count as his second term. I see.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: If he was reinstated. Yes. So that's why I've had, you know, Plan A, B through Z. Now we're getting towards like Plan Z because we've gotten so far. And very few people have had the courage to remedy at the state level.
• 30:00
  So here's what I recommend happen for folks to consider to add on to what I recommend, because this could be a free for all. Day one, January third, Trump is elected as speaker. The very first thing that I would recommend that he do is appoint his Sergeant at Arms. I know some folks that would be available for that. And the first thing that that House Sergeant at Arms should do is to release all fourteen thousand hours of tape.
• 30:32
  Sorry,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Ivan, you cut out again. Think the Xi Jinping is wiggling the Zoom wire for us. So you're saying that
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I mean, I have all the Internet here.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Know, got one crazy how this happens. So basically, what you were saying is that as a speaker of the house, one of the first things that could be done is appointing a sergeant at arms. And now and and Yeah. Basically, that that person could then release all the hours of tape from January 6. Right?
• 31:09
  It's almost
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: like January fifth and
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: sixth I see.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: And release all of the communications between the previous speaker of the house and her daughter that was on the inside of the Capitol that day and her son-in-law that was outside of the Capitol that day and any communications between them and those that they were coordinating with such as John Sullivan for the inner breach, such as Michael Voss and Ray Epps for the outer breach and the rest of the black bloc team for that breach, so that we can get the totality of the story to show beyond a reasonable doubt that almost entirely all of those entered the Capitol either did it intentionally or were entrapped. And then, oh, by the way, the Sergeant at Arms as a member of the Capitol Police Board could potentially contact the DOJ and say, guess what? I'm going to pull back on those nonviolent criminal referrals, and I'm gonna replace them with the following individuals that happen to be Ray Epps and his team, John Sullivan's Black Bloc team, and the list goes on so that we get the totality of what actually occurred uncensored on C SPAN one, two, and three as this comes out. Because guess what?
• 32:31
  Speaker Trump gets C SPAN for his daily or twice a day or 10 times a day press conferences that everybody can access without it being censored. See how powerful that position now is?
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: It's interesting, actually. And it's you know, obviously, you've looked into this way more than I by
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Seth. Okay. Well, I'm just like, I'm all ears because and look. I know there's a lot of people. Like, I see Greg Polgar on Rumble who says, do you really think a red congress will do anything to rectify 2020?
• 33:00
  I think if you do, you're naive. And I know that for a lot of us, it's like, you know, I we went through the Maricopa audit. We went through the cyber symposium. We went through everything. And I think that it's like, okay, well, nothing's gonna really save us now.
• 33:13
  So let's just, you know, build a bunker and try to hope to survive. But I think that what you're putting forth is a very logical plan. It's not like, well, Biden's in a latex mask, and he's gonna rip it off tomorrow. And, you know, like, the secret service is gonna storm in. Like, you know, what maybe that might happen.
• 33:33
  Look. I don't know. These days, it's like, you know, anything goes. But what you're really putting forth here is actually quite logical. And to think of the power that Trump could wield in that
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: especially Because right now, he's still technically censored, right? So as I kind of thought through this and bounced the ideas around, it's like the devil's in the details, right? And this is how we're going to pull this off, I think. Because for me personally, I wanna see a remedy to this constitutional crisis that we're in, in the most peaceful manner possible. I get it.
• 34:09
  There's in the spectrum of conflict of, know, I've been through that. There's a whole wide array of options that are out there. But in the domestic political realm, I like to keep it peaceful, right? Because we have so many options at our disposal to keep it still within that peaceful, legal, moral, ethical realm that we haven't even gotten close to even touching. We don't need to go like, because if we go that other route, okay, it'll happen like that today.
• 34:36
  And then tomorrow it'll happen like that. And we'll flip back. When we get the psychological mindset, right, of the entire country, that's when it sticks. So right now, you know, they've been able to buy time because of the censorship. You know, you had to pull off, right?
• 34:52
  Whether it's censorship from the commie platforms, whether it's the mainstream media providing cover, whether it's the former intelligence community officials trying to use their positions to lie, right? As opposed to I'm trying to like come up with solutions here. They just say flat out, I rush in disinformation because they want power. I could care less. I just want the truth out.
• 35:12
  And then, right, the thing is in the backyard of Silicon Valley, they're actually in somebody else's backyard. Speaker Nancy Pelosi's backyard is that district, right? So here's kinda, let me go back. I just started with some of the options. This is just the day one.
• 35:31
  Day one appoints the sergeant at arms, releases the tapes. That right there is massive, right? So then we go to the next step, which is what? We start off with our hearings. So as Speaker of the House, you have control of approximately 30 committees.
• 35:49
  If you coordinate and organize that, you can go up, you can have 10 committees per C SPAN one, two and three, twenty four seven providing and creating content and basically showcasing to the entire world of all the illegal actions committed by every single member of the deep state by name, date, location, transgression going all the way back to our good friends in July or earlier of 2016. Crossfire hurricane much? Crossfire razor much? Spying on Trump on General Flynn? Was Mike Pence involved?
• 36:29
  I argue that he was. He was the one that provided the necessary top cover for all these people. So as we do all of that, and then showcase on why the final vote to that hearing process requires a nullification of impeachment hoax one, it literally, use, you know, Speaker Trump is going to use that venue to rebut everything that he was not able to rebut over the last six years. See span one, two and three uncensored for the whole world to see all 30 committees. You know, Jim Jordan can have prime time because, know, he he briefs well, right?
• 37:07
  He's gonna get more. And then some folks that may not have a good presence in front of the camera. Well, you get the two in the morning. Yeah, 2AM time slot. But here's the deal.
• 37:16
  You're getting 20 fourseven content exposing everything. We have some, like, subversive activity going on. Do you hear that in the background?
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What is it? Is someone busting My
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: alarm went off. Yeah. One second. I'll be right back.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Sure. Well, folks, this is what happens on on a live interview, which is, you know, this is how how it is. So anyway, when Ivan gets back from fending off the deep state that's kicking his door down, I want to then, you know, walk into what happens with decertification. Alright, so Ivan, now that you're back, you're alive. Sorry.
• 37:55
  It's alright. Fandom audio. So what would the process look like then of decertifying? I'll give you a quick caveat to add a point. So I interviewed If
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: I may, before we jump into that, can I finish kind of my thought? So Yes. So step one is to at a big picture level, speaker Trump presides over seventeen days worth of the following. Just big picture. Number one, nullifying impeachment hoax one.
• 38:20
  And that's basically calling to task every single person that was involved in that, all the way up to Mike Pence as well. James Comey, right? Peter Strzok, and all those Andrew McGabe, you know the list. I'm not gonna repeat Impeachment hopes too. We're gonna do the same thing.
• 38:34
  At the end of the hearings, we basically nullify the impeachment. So that means that Trump never was impeached because the current new congress nullifies it. And everybody's gonna watch that and say, you know what? My orange man bad TDS is way less than my anger towards the lies that the media just spilled to me. That's what we're trying to get their country to.
• 38:57
  So impeachment hoax too. We go after Eric Ciarmela, the whistleblower and his two attorneys, Mark Zaid and Andrew Bacaj. And then, right, you get it. Then we move on to then showcase everything that we missed and the impeachment hoaxes one and two, the Mueller investigation, all the lies, corruption, right? And we're gonna start including the, what is it, the transcripts and everything that's come out ever since with John Durham stuff.
• 39:27
  I don't see John Durham doing much, but we can use some of the transcripts of the cases that he had to essentially convince the country of all the abject lies that are committed by all these, let's just call them what they are, scumbags, right? And then to your question, once he has defended himself and totally exonerated himself and people see, oh, wow, he was screwed. That guy actually deserves, he deserved the real first term and he actually deserves a second term. Well then, once we get to that point after going through this process, in the court of public opinion, which is how we can fix this, Then we look back to what's going on in Arizona. Here's what I see happening.
• 40:13
  Carrie Lake is gonna be the governor with a big mega phone. And she's gonna say, I'm the governor of Arizona. I'm not the one that gets to decertify or nullify electors. That is something that it's legally within the purview of the Secretary of State Mark Fincham to do. And Mark Fincham is gonna say, yeah, absolutely Governor Lake, you are correct.
• 40:36
  And guess what? Arizonans, yes, she is right. It is a legal option for the states under our tenth amendment authority to fix these things. And this is how it would look. I open the books, look under the table, take a look at everything that's been transmitted so far, and then coordinate with Attorney General Abe Hamada, which then is gonna prosecute all the illegal activity, which Bernovich didn't.
• 41:05
  And I, as secretary of state Mark Benjamin, I'm gonna decertify those electors from 2020 and it's gonna be up to the new house and senate to determine how they wanna allocate those electors since I just decertified them. See how this plays out? Legally within the right of the state. That's why they want to do HR one to subvert it all, right? They do plan is going to be promulgated.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Because I interviewed Peter Navarro recently. And when I asked him about what his thoughts were on on this certification, he said the exact same thing. He said, look. He said, look, Isaac, I know a lot of us want we wanna fix 2020 before looking to 2022. But what he said was that if we get the right people in place in 2022, that's the key to decertification, which really really
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: On day one, think Jain
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Barrow knows what's going on behind the scenes. Right?
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Communicate this plan to I've communicated this plan to quite a few people behind the scenes that are in the mix, way more in the mix than I am, Seth. Way more.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, I'd say quickly that for the folks that are watching who just came on, a few points. One is if you have any questions, we'll take some of the these we'll take some questions publicly from the Rumble crowd before we head over to the rise for the more exclusive q and a where if you want to get your question answered for sure, that's the place to do it. But I do want to engage out because I appreciate all the folks that are watching on Rumble. And also if you are watching on Rumble, make sure you go click on that subscribe button.
• 42:37
  Make sure you subscribe to the Man in America channel. I'd really appreciate that. You'll get see this smiling face a lot more in your life. So anyway, so I'm
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: joined over from all your other platforms.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Proud
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: of the folks that are on here.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Exactly. I totally converted over. If you're on Rumble or or Rise, just make sure you write question in your comment, put it up there. And then you know, the folks will feed up to me and we can get to some of those questions. Basically, gave you Go ahead.
• 43:01
  Yep.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I gave you the example of how Arizona could potentially play out, right? Multiply that by Michigan, where we have Christina Caramo, right? Like I mentioned before, multiply that by Governor Mastriano's Secretary of State, because he's going get to appoint that individual. And one of these domestic radical domestic terrorist leftist organization publications thought that I might be on the shortlist for that. I'm not going to answer that question until somebody gets me on Joe Rogan, and I get to have an opportunity to red pill the entire country on this plan and what happened for five hours, but we'll see.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Joe Rogan and his twin.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: So Michigan, Pennsylvania, I talked about Jim Marchant, right? What about in Wisconsin? Wisconsin is an interesting one. I'm praying, the time's running out, I get it. But I'm praying for the time where maybe on the next Friday, President Trump stops between Iowa and Pennsylvania for a rally in Wisconsin to do a singular focused rally to support the writing campaign of Adam Steen to remove Robin Boss as the Speaker of the House in Wisconsin.
• 44:18
  In that primary, we were short supposedly by two sixty ballots where he was able to pull it off. So now we need to go with round two because there's only one person on the ballot. And then the real conservative patriot election integrity gentleman is Adam Steen. So Adam Steen's endorsed by Trump and he's re endorsed by Trump for the general election against Robin Voss. If we can pull that off, here's what's gonna happen.
• 44:49
  By removing Robin Voss, we removed the Speaker of the House that blocked the decertification and the remedy effort for 2020. That's number one. Number two, if I were to guess, good chances there's a lady by the name of Janelle Branch and that could become the Speaker of the House. And she was the one, if you don't recall, was the one that headed up the election campaigns committee to showcase all the evidence of true the vote, of Justice Gableman's report, of everything. So she may have a vested interest in actually decertifying 2020 as a speaker of the house.
• 45:22
  You see how that plays out? And then subsequent to that, aside from the Speaker Trump plan, the RNC is hosting their twenty twenty four RNC convention in Milwaukee. If you're the Speaker, if you control the speakership in Wisconsin, you probably are gonna control how the electoral system will take place, not only in the general, but in a primary. That is a pretty strong position to be in. And if you're a Paul Ryan lackey like Robin Boss and closely affiliated with your college roommate, I don't know, what's his name?
• 45:59
  Former RNC chair Reince Priebus, I think is how you pronounce it. Then guess what? And all of a sudden, last couple days, Robin Voss is coming out of the word work saying, oh, no, Trump's not gonna be the nominee of the RNC. Well, guess what? When we remove this is the importance of why a rally needs to happen for Adam's team.
• 46:18
  Because by removing Robin Voss, it is the domino effect to almost guarantee and secure a Trump nomination in 2024. And if you don't do that, it is going to be almost not not almost, but it's going to. Create a massive roadblock on a Trump twenty twenty four ticket. It's so doable. It's just it creates a problem.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And here's actually here's an interesting question. This is from Cooper True on Rumble, who says that rumors of Trump being arrested are out there. If that were to happen because I'm I'm hearing this as well. People saying that, look, they they think that there's a good chance that, you know, he'll be that first arrest, that he'll be arrested before even before the midterms potentially.
• 47:03
  But if that were to happen, how would that play into this?
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing I forgot to mention is that, I guess the maximum that he would be sitting in, let's just, I don't think it's going to happen. But let's just say they go nuts and make the mistake to actually arrest. It's going to get spicy for one, right? I love spicy. And then number two, I like habaneros.
• 47:28
  I like the
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I grow ghost peppers and Reapers at home. Yeah.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I put out a message a couple days ago, was yesterday on telegram, prepared spiritually, mentally and physically. Because it's gonna get fun, right? Now, if that does happen, which I don't think it will, Then the Speaker Trump plan is still, I think, a brilliant plan because on day one of being elected a Speaker, you now have full immunity from anyone, any Article two branch of government overreach Because a speaker, the DOJ, the FBI, what? You get to sit in your cushy little area known as the capital jurisdiction. And if any of your Article two branch of government friends that want to arrest you want to do something, guess what?
• 48:21
  You're going to do the same thing that Nancy Pelosi did to those that peacefully entered and exercised their First Amendment inside of the capital. You're going to put them in the slammer. So we have so much precedent that's gonna be brilliant for us to actually use
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I see.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: That Nancy has provided us.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: It's like they've used this as a weapon, thinking it was their weapon, but now it's like, well, we're taking it potentially.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Now Right. And a couple other things to actually add on to that. Remember, you know, the gentleman by the name of Poy Griffin in New Mexico?
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I've met him many times. Yeah.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Cowboys for They do they did this. Yeah. They did the article was excuse me, fourteenth amendment section five, I believe, where he can't run for office now because they removed them.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: You heard that happen to him? Well, guess what? As we go through this process, I recommend so as part of that nullification vote and the reinstatement before that reinstatement happens, but that I just mentioned under the twelfth Amendment after we decertified three states, we're also going to start impeaching. We're going to have a half a dozen impeachments against Xiidan, a couple against Kamala Harris. And I get it.
• 49:23
  It's not because we consider them as legitimate. It's to essentially move the country to come and join us to seeing how illegitimate they are. This is probably the best mechanism for it. And as we do that, we can probably start impeaching other folks like, oh, I don't know the other illegitimate members of the executive branch and the previous one. So just like they impeached Trump when they consider him as not a president, we can do the same thing with our good friend, Mikey Pence.
• 49:55
  Now, I'm sure some of you folks that are listening in here think Mike Pence is a great guy, but let me provide some evidence here.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Not me.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Who provided top cover? What's that?
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I said not me.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: So who provided the necessary top? Comey, a Republican, and Robert Mueller, a Republican, to go ahead and launch Crossfire Hurricane. And then when that was not successful, to go ahead and launch the Mueller investigation. The only constitutional officer that a president cannot remove, the vice president. And then let's fast forward a little bit.
• 50:31
  How about we skip skip around a little bit and say, you know what? What if what happened to Mike Pence when he launched the CCP-nineteen task force? Me, me, me, Mr. President, I wanna be the coronavirus task force lead because I get to make all the decisions with the governors and everybody else. And don't worry about where the money goes.
• 50:51
  You just need to do, approve this warp speed in two weeks to stop the spread and all this other stuff. We're gonna look to that. But more importantly, as we're looking into that, let him impeach Mike Pence for two, these two articles is on during the joint session convening. Nancy Pelosi gabbled in. You can review this on Seaspan, it's all for the whole world to see.
• 51:20
  She gabbles in and says, hey, according to the agreement between leadership, meaning Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, Kevin McCarthy, and myself as speaker Pelosi, we agreed that only 11 members of the house Republicans, eleven members of the house Democrats, and the same in the Senate, meaning 44 total, could participate in the joint session at the advice of the House Senate Sergeant at Arms and the medical officer. But when you look at the twelfth amendment, it says two thirds of the states need to be represented at a joint session, twelfth Amendment. While two thirds of the states represented is what?
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Two thirds of what? Like
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: 67? Sorry. At least one member of each
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: of the Can you say it
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: one more time, Ivan?
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: You cut out just 34
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: in the house.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: And 34 in the senate.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, absolutely. So under the twelfth Amendment for the joint session, that's the only place where it references a joint session, if you will, under the Electoral Count Act, the Electoral College contingent election and kind of that framework where it talks about it in the twelfth Amendment. It states that a quorum constitutes two thirds of the states represented. So two thirds of 50 states is 34 states, right? Would you agree?
• 52:46
  If the audio still works.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Which was obviously what they've done is not two thirds by a long stretch.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, the audio is fine. So 34 and then 34 in the Senate. So you needed a minimum, at a bare minimum of 68 members participating if they were from the appropriate allocation. Well, there were 44.
• 53:09
  That doesn't hit the quorum. So what does that mean? That means the person that gaveled in, the presiding officer of the joint session, the ultimate arbiter and responsible authority of that joint session is a guy by the name of Mike Pence, who was the presiding officer, president of the Senate, right, and vice president. That's a violation of the twelfth amendment. I argue that then that's an impeachable offense, because we have still yet to have a legitimately conducted and certified twenty twenty election.
• 53:40
  Number two, when Pelosi and her Capitol Police Board entrapped folks to enter the Capitol to change the narrative of an illegally certified election to a insurrection with the names that I just mentioned. Then Mike Pence, to Lizzie Cheney, was the one, according to Lizzie Cheney and General Milley, Mikey Pence was giving clear direct orders on how to use the National Guard in support and around the Capitol. Also, was giving clear orders to the DOJ and the DHS. Seth, where in our constitution does a vice president have the authority to be the commander in chief?
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Nowhere.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Kind of whoopsie, right?
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Unless the president dies, and then okay, then you know,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: then Unless we have a twenty fifth amendment section for removal of the president. And there are two ways to do that. One is under constitutional authority, which there isn't one or wasn't one, there still isn't one. Or number two, the main one that most of us know about is that where the vice president convenes the cabinet and the majority of the cabinet decides that the president is incapacitated for then the vice president to take over. And guess what?
• 55:07
  That didn't happen because Nancy Pelosi was screaming from that day until January 20 for Mike Pence to actually invoke the twenty fifth Amendment. And he didn't. So when he ordered around the National Guard, clear violation of the twenty fifth Amendment. And actually one of these radical leftist publications, the same one that wrote about the president Trump saying that military veterans were chumps, publication that lied about that. They actually put something together cogent and it said, Mike Pence has some explaining to do about his role in ordering the military around as a vice president.
• 55:49
  So kudos to them, you know, a clock's right twice a day and they happen to be right on one one occasion out of their millions of publications, I guess. I won't even mention it.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Back to the the comment mentioned earlier from Greg Pogr in Rumble, who's saying, do you really think the red Congress will do anything to rectify 2020? I mean, so from how I
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: don't think they will do that unless we have a speaker Trump because no one else has the I don't think anyone has the courage to do it. He's in a bull in the China shop and it's necessary. It's necessary to remedy the mask formation psychosis and spell that we've been under for the last two years. Not you and me and not the people that are listening here. I get it.
• 56:34
  But in order to get folks that are still on the tummy pot, and who knows, I'm not sure how, what Elon Musk will do starting tomorrow and whether or not he's going to open things up. But it's still a process, right? Trump has four, four and a half million followers on truth. That's nowhere near the or maybe it is near. There's 80 that he had on the other platform.
• 57:04
  So while we're building, the faster we move over there, I think the faster we can remedy the absolute, abject, illegal, last two years. And I think that is a Speaker Trump option is probably from I think is the fastest lawful mech to get things back on track. Because if we work it through the court system, and we're talking years decades, if we try to wait for the DOJ and the FBI to do it, well, that's gonna be at least until 2024 plus the cleansing of all the scumbags in those institutions, that's gonna take yet another couple of years. So we're talking 2025, '20 '6 at a minimum, right? We don't have that much time.
• 57:54
  So I think the right thing to do for president Trump, think, is to wield his popularity, his influence, to literally go back in a position where he has full immunity. Because once you're once you have immunity, you're no longer on defense. And if you're not on defense, what are you on?
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Exactly, offense.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: A big offense. So And that's how I think we get it back on track. And then once Kevin McCarthy, you know, plays along, then we'll say, all right, you know, we'll close our nose and say, all right, you earned your way to becoming speaker and you can kind of allocate the funds and, you know, and essentially rule the house how you would like to, but not until impeachment hoax one nullified, impeachment hoax two nullified. Every single person in the entire duration of the last six years is exposed. And probably your homeboy, Mike Pence, too, and Paul Ryan.
• 58:49
  So he's to have to swallow quite a bit of a, I don't know what you want to call it, but he's going to have to swallow a few nails, if you will, to get his speakership. But he does have leverage. So we'll see how this plays out. Those are my thoughts. Yeah.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Well, great. So we're I have another question for you, which which we'll get to shortly, but also tell people that we're going to be continuing this on Rise TV. So if you have more questions for Ivan, if you want to be continue to be part of this discussion, make sure you come join us over on Rise. There's a in the description below the video there or the podcast, there is a link for a free trial. It's a fourteen day free trial.
• 59:29
  Come check it out. Hang out. You're gonna love it. But so but before we head over there, one of the questions I do have is, so basically, as I understand it, the decertification of 2020 would happen first. It's not about just impeaching biographies.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Concurrent. It's a concurrent method.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: What's the process look like the specifics of Trump actually being back into the White House before 2024, potentially?
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't close that thought on that. So thank you for coming back to that. So one parallel track is what's going on in Congress with him being speaker, exonerating himself and doing that mechanism. While that's going on at the national level uncensored, at these states that are decertifying, that same process is going down at the state level where it's literally converting the psyche of that state through their public broadcasting system to hold hearings on decertification, right?
• 1:00:26
  It's not just like, hey, we're gonna hold the vote. It has to be a methodical, justifiable reason so that people so that a clear majority says, you know what? Orange man bad. But now I've seen the evidence because the evidence was censored, banned, shadow banned. Now that I have the opportunity, I think we get to the point where truth is more important than orange man bad, right?
• 1:00:53
  Those decertifications happen at state level. Once 37 electors are decertified, that triggers the twelfth Amendment in the US Congress where Speaker Trump is presiding to hold a twelfth Amendment contingent election vote, meaning one state, one vote. And depending on how well we do in two weeks basically, we could have it set up to where 27 to 30 states is what I'm saying are going to be Republican under that framework. So you have 50 votes in the Congress. DC does not have a vote in the contingent election.
• 1:01:31
  So 50 states are represented. An example of that would be if Alabama were to vote right now on how they would vote under a twelfth amendment, it would be, they have seven members of the house, six Republicans and one Democrat. So those seven members of the house sit together and decide how their one state vote goes. If they vote by party, it's an internal six to one, meaning Alabama's one vote then goes to the Republican or Trump, right? Now multiply that by 50.
• 1:02:04
  Right now we're at 27 to 20 to three. Remove Liz Cheney. She's gonna vote with the Democrats. So that's 26 to 21 to three. But depending on how well we do, we could have up to 30 because you have three states that are tied up, Pennsylvania, Michigan, one other.
• 1:02:24
  If we pull off a flip of a house seat, now we're at 30. So we have a lot of wiggle room if a couple of people, a couple of states don't wanna play ball. And that would be the method to reinstatement legally, constitutionally. Now the other side is gonna argue, oh, you can't do that. You could only do that before January 6.
• 1:02:47
  Okay, great. The response is going to President Speaker Trump. I recommend saying great. If you don't agree with that, take it up to the Supreme Court. Go ahead and litigate that right?
• 1:03:00
  And then wait a couple of years while that goes through. Next, I recommend because the peaceful patriotic method is, the left's gonna go nuts, right? If this happens. But a lot less of them are gonna go nuts because we just went through that process of de TDS ing the nation. But even if they are, I would recommend that the first press conference went right after the vote, Speaker Trump should say, I accept the presidency.
• 1:03:29
  I'm honored to have the presidency back rightfully, how I should have gotten in the first place. Luckily it was done, oh, thirty seconds after the midpoint of this term. So I am going to go ahead and go back to Mar A Lago, be the president for the remaining two years, almost two years, and I'm gonna allow Jideon, give him his time to go ahead and exit the White House. I'm not gonna force it on him. And American people are gonna decide the sequence of events on how quickly that should happen.
• 1:04:03
  And I'm gonna allow him to go ahead and squat in my White House. I mean, think of how boss that is, right? You're preempting anything from happening. I have a better home down at Mar A Lago. I have more safety and security, not in DC because the mayor is gonna, you know, they're gonna try to do something.
• 1:04:20
  So I'm just gonna hang out in Florida where I got my freedom and I'm going be the president, mobile president down in Florida. And while he's taking his time leaving the White House, I'm going go ahead and launch my presidential campaign for 2024. I think that is the most the cleanest, easiest, most peaceful and sticky, if you will, reinstatement that we have at our disposal. But it all is contingent on how well we do it in like ten days, basically, whatever it is, twelve days for
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: So the message is get out and vote And you know, sign up to be a poll watcher, whatever can be done to ensure that our voices are
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: in United Electoral poll watcher.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Before we jump into the q and a portion, I want to just, you know, frame my perspective on this. And I think that, you know, I'm a man of faith. And when I come down and look at what's happening in this world, like that's where it goes for me. And when I look at where we were at in 2020, a lot of us had had kind of woken up, but a lot of us didn't. And you could almost look at it.
• 1:05:32
  And I also, I really believe that nothing happens on earth that God isn't allowed to happen. So it's like you look back at what happened in 2020, that was allowed to happen. There's a reason it was allowed to happen. If the majority of the American people were focused on election integrity, were focused on the importance of, you know, really taking responsibility for our actions and what happens in our country, it wouldn't have happened. But I think that really happened because so many people had gotten just caught up with the bread and circuses.
• 1:06:00
  They weren't paying attention. They weren't paying attention to the schools, what their kids are being taught. Fast forward to now, the awakening that I've seen, the energy that I've seen from both sides of the political aisle of people that are stepping forward and even coming together and agreeing on issues, agreeing on what's happening to our children, and standing up, like, to me, this gives me a lot more faith in our future because I'm seeing that so many people are standing up. Look at Sodom and Gomorrah, right? God's like, look, if you can find five people that are good, I won't destroy the town.
• 1:06:32
  And there weren't five people. Well, there's a lot more than five good people in America. And even the people that were on the fence before are stepping forward in that good category. And so that gives me that right there gives me hope for our future.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Just to hit that point home. I listen to quite a bit of music. And when you're starting to see some of these, I know probably a lot of you folks don't listen to hip hop and rap, but I listen to it because it gives you an indication of the mindset of a particular culture in America. And when you're Bernie bro, radical left hip hop artists are now writing songs that essentially showcase how they don't like the algorithms that First Amendment is being limited. That's when I get a sense that a very large swath of society is seeing what's going on.
• 1:07:28
  And they're totally on our it's not even that they're on our side. There's these fundamental things that they've grown up with like First Amendment. That's kind of a red line. And they're willing to fight to essentially be on the same side of us on that coin. So I think it's promising.
• 1:07:45
  I'm excited. I think we're gonna pull this off because I've never seen so many people in my lifetime participating in the electoral system. I get it, they're gonna cheat. But we are so heavily involved in the electoral system. Look at what we did without phone news and with them absolutely trying to cheat as much as possible.
• 1:08:05
  When I say they, the Republican Party in Arizona. Carrie Lake absolutely decimated their darling and they didn't even allow her on phone news once. Now they're begging for interviews. So your media outlet and all these other independent sources of media that allow for truth, people are gravitating to it. And that's how we're gonna pull it off.
• 1:08:28
  I get it, we have a court system, everybody's saying, oh, we gotta wait for the military. No one's coming to save us. We have to do it ourselves. And all indications is that people that you would have never thought would be on our side of this thing, they're coming on board. Even if it's at least for this issue, because if we get even if we have 30% of discourse, as opposed to 5%, we're gonna win every time.
• 1:08:57
  If it's fiftyfifty, we're gonna decimate the other party every single time. So let's get it towards 50%, and then we're gonna convince the rest of the country in our favor.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Absolutely. So, folks, for those of you that are watching on Rumble, I wanna thank you for joining us live today. And you know, for some of the questions that came through. I do hope you come join us over on Rise TV.
• 1:09:19
  Like I said, in the description below the video, there is a link for a
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: free drop some details and names.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Okay. So now we so we've got Ivan's gonna be dropping some details and some names. This guy came with receipts, folks. So we're gonna be diving into all of that over on Rise TV. So I hope you can join us because we're also just we're just gonna have some fun with it too.
• 1:09:41
  This is this is a conversation. Look, I know that there's a lot of things that could happen there. It doesn't work out. But I think that sometimes it's good to focus on what could come about. And this is a good outcome.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: I don't see him saying no. I don't see him saying no to this plan. Once it's presented of all the mat components to it. Yeah.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Alright. So folks, so Rumble, we're gonna say goodbye to you now. Come join us over on Rise TV. Link in the description below.
• 1:10:07
  We'll see you over there soon. So Dom, you can go ahead and cut the rumble stream. And we've already got a bunch of questions. Yeah. We've got a ton there, you know, kind of built up of here.
• 1:10:20
  So I'll just jump into Laura Joe for truth who says, do you think Pence always had bad intentions, or did he get honey potted in China and is now their puppet? I used to think he was such a good man. Oops.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: Alright.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: So