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Soul Bonds Part 2 with Yvonne Orji · Deeply Well with Devi Brown

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Speaker 1: Mm from grandmothers who whispered in their baby girl in
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Speaker 1: two fathers on dimly lit street corners, instructing young soldiers
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Speaker 1: to always keep their eyes open. You be queen, you
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Speaker 1: were fired. You will pass through centuries on the hands
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Speaker 1: of your daughters. They called you wisdom. Proverbs on the
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Speaker 1: backs of diamond eyed school children who growing into hymnals
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Speaker 1: recited by amethyst holding urban philosophers who recited neighborhood commandments
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Speaker 1: out of the windows of restored Alchemedo cheriots. To keep
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Speaker 1: the warmth of their blood. Be wise, be smart, being black,
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Speaker 1: opal brown courts, bloodstone, and prayer. Be every form of
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Speaker 1: jim se King told, scribe, scribe, told son, son, told wife,
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Speaker 1: wife told her daughter, and daughter told the ass is.
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Speaker 1: And the ancestors told me that you would come to
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Speaker 1: give wisdom. Thousands. They said you would come, dropping chain,
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Speaker 1: dropping the chain. Okay, welcome to part two of this
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Speaker 1: amazing conversation with my dear friend, Emmy nominated actress author
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Speaker 1: Yvonne Orgy. Bamboozled by Jesus is in stores now, and
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Speaker 1: you and I have been having a really expansive, decadent
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Speaker 1: conversation about loving ourselves and friendships, both the friendships that
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Speaker 1: really nourish us ways to be your full self and
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Speaker 1: friendship and also the friendships that sometimes we just have
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Speaker 1: to let kind of gracefully shed UM. And so we
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Speaker 1: were we kind of left off in our last episode together, Cliffhanger.
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Speaker 1: We were exploring you know, um, I guess really what that?
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Speaker 1: What that how we shift into more grace for ourselves
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Speaker 1: and how we shift into being able to be in
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Speaker 1: choice around our friendships. Yeah, I think for me, what's
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Speaker 1: you know? I have a friend that that always asks
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Speaker 1: what's coming up for you? I was like, don't you
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Speaker 1: theropose me? And I think what's coming up for me?
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Speaker 1: Is this is this um? In the same way that
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Speaker 1: you recognize, like everyone in every season might not be
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Speaker 1: the right uh person for you, the same could be
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Speaker 1: on the flip side, you know, giving that opportunity to
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Speaker 1: say you may not be for them, and and that
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Speaker 1: our ego went to be like, well that, I mean
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Speaker 1: I don't walk around being a trash human being, So like,
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Speaker 1: how was that possible? But to what you said in
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Speaker 1: the first episode, you don't know what they're going like,
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Speaker 1: what what it may not be about you? Because for me,
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Speaker 1: I was very it's based right growing up, because you know,
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Speaker 1: I grew up where if things are performative, it's like
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Speaker 1: black or white, it's like a square plus B square
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Speaker 1: equal cit squared. And so it's like the evidence. It's like, well,
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Speaker 1: this is why we are withholding you know, whatever from you,
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Speaker 1: because this is evidence a you didn't do this. And
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Speaker 1: so I was always I was subconscious to you or
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Speaker 1: consciously trained to look for the evidence. There has to
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Speaker 1: be a y. You know, we can't be friends because
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Speaker 1: you did this thing to me. I have evidence proof,
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Speaker 1: And now I'm in a place where it's like we
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Speaker 1: can't be friends because something doesn't feel right. And I
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Speaker 1: actually don't want a way for evidence because I think
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Speaker 1: by the time I was for evidence, it was too late.
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Speaker 1: Like now you know it's now I was gonna be
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Speaker 1: a problem. But my I think I think in the
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Speaker 1: past I have entrusted my intuition and my spirit right
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Speaker 1: because it's just like no, I know not not no, no,
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Speaker 1: I don't think. So, you know, like other people would
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Speaker 1: be like I think this person and I was like, nah,
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Speaker 1: you just don't know that they're great because I saw
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Speaker 1: through eyes of grace. I saw through oh, that's just
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Speaker 1: down for that's what like, isn't that what what makes
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Speaker 1: people them? And time? And it's just like now I'm like, okay,
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Speaker 1: the evidence is not tangible evidence, it's spiritual and m
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Speaker 1: you and I don't have to think about how to
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Speaker 1: show up for each other because spiritually we're in you know,
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Speaker 1: in aloightnment. It's like I love it's easy, you know,
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Speaker 1: and we have a groove in in like you know,
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Speaker 1: there was one time that I was like sending you
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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff and you you do you so graciously.
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Speaker 1: We're like, I love you so much, however, I do
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Speaker 1: not desire this this kind of information. So stop and
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh. And in my mind
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Speaker 1: I was like did I just offend her that I
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Speaker 1: didn't know? And I was just like I'm so sorry,
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Speaker 1: and you were like not to big deal. In this moment.
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Speaker 1: I had to honor what was coming up for me
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Speaker 1: and I'm telling you stop and we didn't continue. You
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Speaker 1: want to eat later like it was and it was
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Speaker 1: just that like, oh, so this is possible, and it wasn't.
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Speaker 1: We had an agree disagreement. It was just like I
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Speaker 1: don't I don't desire this thing. That you are finding
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Speaker 1: out and like wanting to share and I appreciate your journey.
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Speaker 1: I've already journey through that, so stop and because it's
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Speaker 1: not in this moment, it's not good for me. And
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Speaker 1: it was like, oh, as your friend, I can honor
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Speaker 1: what you're saying and to not take it personal. And
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Speaker 1: three believe that when you say we're good, you mean it.
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Speaker 1: I've encountered what I don't like, what I is just.
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Speaker 1: What I don't like is if you say we're good,
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Speaker 1: but I noticed a ship. Come on, don't do that
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Speaker 1: because for me, I'm I'm Nigerian in this way and
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Speaker 1: that I'm like, I don't like difficult conversations, but when
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Speaker 1: I have to have them, Mam, have because I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't also don't know how not to be. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how to move authentically knowing that like there's
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Speaker 1: something in the back of my mind like I need
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Speaker 1: to get off my chest, like it's just I can't.
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Speaker 1: I'm not able because I'm gonna be a version of
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Speaker 1: myself that's not the full the fullness of me. And
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Speaker 1: I know and I hate inauthenticity and fakeness. I can
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Speaker 1: just take me out of it. And like we don't
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Speaker 1: do this. It's so exhausting. It is. And I think,
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Speaker 1: you know, when I give people the ability to be
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Speaker 1: like what's up? Like she straight with me? Like that's
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Speaker 1: me mean like giving you the permission to be one
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Speaker 1: thousand with me. I mean this is happening like in
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Speaker 1: past friendships people that were like employees and whatever, and
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Speaker 1: I'm just like, yo, keep it a buck and they
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Speaker 1: say they are yeah, and then I'm like I believe
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Speaker 1: you because for me, I'm like with my friends, I
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Speaker 1: don't want to be discerning. I don't want to be
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Speaker 1: that's that's not that's not what I have to be discerning,
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Speaker 1: But I don't want to have to like be a
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Speaker 1: genie to discern is this real? Is this vague? And
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Speaker 1: I want to just build the mental gymnastics. I would
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Speaker 1: like to just be yes. I just I want to
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Speaker 1: I want to be in an honest space again where
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Speaker 1: I can take off the cloak because in Hollywood, in
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Speaker 1: my actual life, I gotta be dumb discerning. I gonna
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Speaker 1: be like, Okay, does this person want me for me?
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Speaker 1: This person want when I offered? Is this person just
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Speaker 1: wants to deal? Like I gotta I gotta be double
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Speaker 1: dutching off different relationships make it easy for me. Fam
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Speaker 1: Like if I come to you and I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: this is the real, I want you to also be like,
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Speaker 1: this is the real and then we can figure out, Okay,
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Speaker 1: what where do we go from here? Is it good?
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Speaker 1: Is it bad? Is it in different? And so I'm
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Speaker 1: the kind of person where I'm like, I believe that
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Speaker 1: when I give the opportunity for transparency, it's reciprocated, and
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Speaker 1: I just have problems when I feel like it's not.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, h but I did that. I did
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Speaker 1: the thing of like giving you space to occupy that.
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Speaker 1: So now I'm like, so this so here, this is
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Speaker 1: the this is the yummy piece to add to that beautiful,
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Speaker 1: beautiful um meal on the table. It's you know, we
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Speaker 1: also when we're in our transparency, I think we have
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Speaker 1: to also fully released the expectation because the transparency is
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Speaker 1: for us at the end of the day. Because I
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Speaker 1: do think, you know, and I want to preface this
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Speaker 1: by saying, sometimes people are narcissists and they have various
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Speaker 1: personality disorders and various traumas that they're maneuvering through um
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Speaker 1: and so there are some people that are actively trying
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Speaker 1: to manipulate us when we're transparent. Um, but then there's
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Speaker 1: this whole other group of people. And I think there's
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Speaker 1: a quote I love that illustrates I think this so well.
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Speaker 1: It's you know, people can only meet you as deeply
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Speaker 1: as they have met themselves. See okay, guys, first episode.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'd be like that, people can only meet
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Speaker 1: you as deeply as they have met themselves. So just
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Speaker 1: because we're in a space of being able to be
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Speaker 1: in our glorious as transparency, it may depending on that
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Speaker 1: person's background, like you know, how we explore our family
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Speaker 1: structures depending on what was their quote unquote real because
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Speaker 1: real is relative depending on what was real for them.
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Speaker 1: They might think they're showing up in authenticity, but there's
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Speaker 1: so much wounding and so little self awareness or self
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Speaker 1: mastery that it still is coming out really in a
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Speaker 1: way that is not maybe as heart letter dignified as
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Speaker 1: we are giving it or would like to receive it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I fully understand that because I you know, therapy,
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Speaker 1: because and said the same thing. It's like you're, like
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Speaker 1: you said, your transparency is for you, and it patch
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Speaker 1: yourself on the back to know like I'm doing the work.
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Speaker 1: I'm doing the work, and I'm able to shed you know,
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Speaker 1: because I'm kind of I attack like therapy and self
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Speaker 1: working in the same way. I'm like, I gotta guess
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Speaker 1: three days. You know. It's like which mother was like,
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Speaker 1: that's not how this working. I'm like, you speak to
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Speaker 1: yourself that um, but it isn't like if I only
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Speaker 1: get one shot at this I want. I'm not here
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Speaker 1: to pity pad because I also know those people who
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Speaker 1: are life first, like I'm gonna be in therapy for
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Speaker 1: twenty years, and it's just like that's not the goal.
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Speaker 1: The goals to be at the tools and working process, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and like and like not use the therapies as a
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Speaker 1: crutch and like, oh I got something else for you
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Speaker 1: this week. Oh what about the stuff we were working
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Speaker 1: on the last four weeks? Like where are we in
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Speaker 1: our progress and order that? You know what I mean
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Speaker 1: because that was literally my you know, people talk about
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Speaker 1: the things the barriers to people getting help. I had
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Speaker 1: somebody who I was like, Yo, if this is what
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Speaker 1: therapy is, like, I don't want none of it because
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Speaker 1: this chip in a therapy Oh my life, oh my life,
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Speaker 1: grinding all my life. Oh her life ship been in
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Speaker 1: therapy and I'm looking at her like, so you just
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Speaker 1: don't want revelation, Like is that like you just want
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Speaker 1: so this is entertainment for you. This is like you're
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Speaker 1: going to the movies. You don't want to apply none
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Speaker 1: of them. And we quit, like my therapist says, and
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Speaker 1: I'm like, well what what what do you say? But
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Speaker 1: what do you say? Damn? And I just was like
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Speaker 1: I was had such a visceral reaction that therapy because
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Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, this is this is a waste
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Speaker 1: of time. Because I also was like mad at the
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Speaker 1: therapist because like when is she gonna hold her accountable
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Speaker 1: to the change? Like you just you just happy collecting
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Speaker 1: these money, this, this check every week on too. You
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Speaker 1: don't you say you got a whole monster on your couch.
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Speaker 1: Then there's that. So I mean so I think to
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Speaker 1: your point, it's just like for me, I'm like, yo,
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Speaker 1: you can't give me new information and me act like
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Speaker 1: I mean I'm a bucket it like oh I don't know,
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Speaker 1: and then at some point the Holy Spirit gonna beat
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Speaker 1: me up like are you ready to deal with it
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Speaker 1: or you need a minute, and like you're right you're right,
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Speaker 1: You're right. Okay, cool, Like so here's here's really what
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Speaker 1: I'm really upset. If I'm really being honest with myself,
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Speaker 1: like this is what it is. And it's just like okay, cool,
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Speaker 1: we have more information now, great, you want to go
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Speaker 1: deeper with it, and I do because I'm like, I
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Speaker 1: only got me one time, man, I only got me
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Speaker 1: one time in this one life. It got to be
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Speaker 1: the best version of it. But you know, the hurt
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Speaker 1: even in the transparency and understanding that, like yo, some
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Speaker 1: people aren't ready for that level of transparency. Some people
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Speaker 1: are still healing it. There is that hurt of but
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Speaker 1: I might have to keep I'm gonna have to move on. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have I'm gonna have to move on because
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Speaker 1: it's like I'm gonna allow you your process, but in
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Speaker 1: your process, like I also have to protect me. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you have to make the most serving choice for you.
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Speaker 1: And that's and I think that's what hurts because and
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Speaker 1: I think to like you said, with your with your
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Speaker 1: relationship that you had to gracefully buy out of. It's
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Speaker 1: one thing if it was like this, this moment is
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Speaker 1: the thing, the catalyst, But then when you go deeper.
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Speaker 1: You're just like, yo, I'm recognizing, like you, you didn't
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Speaker 1: show you showed up in other ways that I'm now
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Speaker 1: remembering that, like the pattern, but I didn't know. I
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Speaker 1: didn't know to to something my spirit knew because it
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Speaker 1: was like but then the either the people pleasing or
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Speaker 1: the the go on to get along or the de
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Speaker 1: nihilate like but no, not them brushed it down and
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Speaker 1: I made it again about like like it was now
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Speaker 1: the onus was on me to keep the peace. The
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Speaker 1: onus was on me to be like this maybe maybe
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Speaker 1: wounds from your baths, Like I made it as opposed
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Speaker 1: to be like, hey, this came up from me and
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Speaker 1: didn't let's check it and it's it's you as it's me.
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Speaker 1: I just was like, it's not them, it's popping me.
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Speaker 1: And now I'm like, well, I'm not doing that anymore.
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Speaker 1: Whether it's you or me, I'm gonna make the choice
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Speaker 1: of what feels best right now, yeah, and or whether
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Speaker 1: it's you or me, I'm gonna be well rounded and
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Speaker 1: not even downplaying ego because if it is me, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna check myself and be like, okay, so this was you.
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Speaker 1: But then if it's not just like, oh ah, I
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Speaker 1: see how you're moving. Okay, cool, And that's hard. It's hard.
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Speaker 1: But then the beauty of the juxtaposition is when you
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Speaker 1: find the people that you're like, I know that this
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Speaker 1: isn't me because I don't have to have these conversations
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Speaker 1: with these people, you know what I mean? And again,
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Speaker 1: it's not to just like find the people that, um,
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Speaker 1: what's the one that cater to the lowest part of you.
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Speaker 1: So there's also that it's not like these people don't
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Speaker 1: they're fine with it. And it's like, so, so you're
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Speaker 1: okay with someone being okay with the with the not
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Speaker 1: great part of you. And that's not to say that
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Speaker 1: we don't have grace, but it's just like, but are
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Speaker 1: they are they challenging you to become a better version
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Speaker 1: of you? Because people luxuriate with the people who allow
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Speaker 1: them to skate by as not their best selves. That's
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Speaker 1: different than someone giving you grace to grow. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: I think I think everything that you're saying now out
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Speaker 1: one is like you're just beautifully working your process, Like
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Speaker 1: this is what we all, this is the gift we
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Speaker 1: can give ourselves in every moment. Is just I'm just
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Speaker 1: willing to observe. I'm just willing to observe myself. I'm
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Speaker 1: willing to observe this scenario and how it's unfolding. Um,
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Speaker 1: And I'm willing to honor myself by making a choice
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Speaker 1: based on my preference, my needs, my desires and being
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Speaker 1: okay okay, because for me in the past, I wasn't.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't okay with it because it was like, no,
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Speaker 1: is there we to save it? Or what can I do?
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Speaker 1: And it's just about you about you. Now I'm in
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Speaker 1: the space of like, this is life of divine trust
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Speaker 1: and you know God protects you like that is one
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Speaker 1: thing that I know. You don't have any shadow of
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Speaker 1: a doubt about God. God to tax you. And you
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Speaker 1: know what it is that I'm still finding out. Remember
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Speaker 1: when I said I would trick things off. What I'm
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Speaker 1: finding out about myself now, the things that I'm like
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Speaker 1: either trying to protect me or other people from. It's
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Speaker 1: when I like, for instance, I was just like yo,
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Speaker 1: my roommate, I gotta give her my passport. I was
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Speaker 1: like yo, um, I don't want to move, Like how
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Speaker 1: a lot of Nigerians be moving anymore? Like what do
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Speaker 1: you mean the perfectionism thing, the grinding. I'm like, yo, fam,
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Speaker 1: is there a version of like doing the work and
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Speaker 1: not being exhausted? Um? Is there a version of ease
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Speaker 1: and flow to get me to the promised land? And
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Speaker 1: my fromer was like, oh wa, give me your passport
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Speaker 1: because you're not talking like like you eat and love right,
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Speaker 1: She's like give it like she was just like and
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Speaker 1: I was like no no if. I was like, that's
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Speaker 1: been successful. I've done the Nigerian thing and and it's
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Speaker 1: worked out great for me. But I hope it's tired. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: hold that thought. We are coming right back. How does
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Speaker 1: it feel to be in this moment in time where
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Speaker 1: you have a book that celebrated and being so beautifully
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Speaker 1: received all over the world and you are walking in
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Speaker 1: this beautiful journey with Insecure and coming coming into the
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Speaker 1: space where you guys are completing that. What does that
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Speaker 1: feel like right now? How does it feel to be
18:49
Speaker 1: in this final season of Insecure? Are you guys crying
18:53
Speaker 1: every day? It is? It is getting more and more emotional.
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Speaker 1: It is getting more and more because it's get more real,
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Speaker 1: like this is it? And you know, this was a
19:03
Speaker 1: challenging season of trying to do it within covid um
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Speaker 1: because it's like trying to just stay your live, stay safe,
19:12
Speaker 1: make sure nobody gets to make sure we don't get
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Speaker 1: shut down um. And then you know, also trying to
19:16
Speaker 1: give our baby a send off. You know, Issa and
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Speaker 1: Prentice and everybody and all the writers are just like
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Speaker 1: wanting to make sure that like this is the legacy,
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Speaker 1: like you know, the final episode, you don't you don't
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Speaker 1: want people to be disappointed, like we've been rocking with you,
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Speaker 1: and it's like you know why, you know. And so
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Speaker 1: we had our final table read and tears definitely got
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Speaker 1: shut because I think in in the in the words
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Speaker 1: that these characters were saying to each other's a little
19:49
Speaker 1: hikey low key with we're saying to each other like
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Speaker 1: we have to, we have to we all have to
19:56
Speaker 1: go our separate ways. I'm not ready. I am not
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Speaker 1: We're not ready. I'm not ready not either. But but
20:03
Speaker 1: you know, but a lot of good things, you know
20:05
Speaker 1: what we're talking about, friendships, Like some good things have
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Speaker 1: to you have to say goodbye to some things, and
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Speaker 1: and and that's okay, Like because for what they were
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Speaker 1: in that moment, they were like, insecure is great Insecure
20:19
Speaker 1: is great, you know, And for five seasons we've had
20:24
Speaker 1: Sunday Nights be amazingly frustrating and fun and entertaining and
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Speaker 1: beautiful and loving and yeah, and now we're going to
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Speaker 1: move on to different things, but we'll always have that
20:40
Speaker 1: content is forever um on file, it's on film. Yeah,
20:47
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like when we go
20:50
Speaker 1: back and watch in Living Color or Girlfriends or any
20:55
Speaker 1: of the shows that people grew up with, you know,
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Speaker 1: fresh Friends, you go back, can the nostalgia hits you.
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Speaker 1: It's just like, man, thank god that we have these
21:03
Speaker 1: episodes of Martin, you know, thank God that we have
21:05
Speaker 1: a different world. And it's just like one thing, someone's
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Speaker 1: gonna be like, Yo, let's gonna watch season one through
21:11
Speaker 1: Father Been Security again. Yeah, that's my show twenty years
21:14
Speaker 1: with now and tomorrow, and I feel like we're already
21:19
Speaker 1: we already feel that way with that show tomorrow. Yeah,
21:22
Speaker 1: Like it's um. It's also a moment because Jay said
21:28
Speaker 1: this and I don't want to believe it. He said
21:30
Speaker 1: it and I was like, there's a part of me
21:32
Speaker 1: that's sad if it's true. But he was just like,
21:35
Speaker 1: we'll never get this again. Black people working on a
21:39
Speaker 1: black show with black creatives in front of and behind
21:44
Speaker 1: the scenes. And I'm like the fact that that's so
21:48
Speaker 1: um rare in is actually problematic for me. Um and
21:57
Speaker 1: the fact that he might be right it's also problematic
22:01
Speaker 1: for me. But I want to hold on. I want
22:03
Speaker 1: to believe that he's wrong, Like I want to believe that,
22:06
Speaker 1: like if we can do it once, we can do
22:10
Speaker 1: it again. So who got next? You know who got next?
22:13
Speaker 1: And we know that we definitely have something special, and
22:17
Speaker 1: you know we're trying to save at the moments right now,
22:19
Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna from like I would be looking
22:21
Speaker 1: at the east to like girls me and you don't
22:24
Speaker 1: care what's going on the last day, I'm showing up.
22:26
Speaker 1: I'm feeling like we end in this series together, like
22:29
Speaker 1: you know, obviously our schedules are are different, um And
22:35
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not gonna I'm not leaving this. I'm
22:39
Speaker 1: going to hear that's a rap a series finale rap
22:45
Speaker 1: on Insecure, Like I'm going to hear that. So wherever
22:49
Speaker 1: you're shooting, I'm coming. Or if we're not shooting together,
22:52
Speaker 1: I'm showing up. We're shooting together, then that's where I'm at,
22:54
Speaker 1: like it's he used to change my life. He's a
22:59
Speaker 1: not only the show's changed my life, He's changed my life. Issa.
23:02
Speaker 1: You talk about friendships. Easa remembered me at the time
23:05
Speaker 1: where I tell her all the time I felt the
23:07
Speaker 1: most forgotten. People were like, man, we're not worried about you.
23:10
Speaker 1: You're gonna make it. I'm like, just worry about me, please,
23:15
Speaker 1: Oh it's hungry. And she remembered me from when she
23:22
Speaker 1: would see me do stand up like around town or
23:26
Speaker 1: like host the African fashion shows and supported when first
23:31
Speaker 1: Shan came out, you know, and when I auditioned, it
23:36
Speaker 1: was just like you know, there's there was no guarantees,
23:38
Speaker 1: but it was just like yo, five of those jokers
23:44
Speaker 1: and I got to be the one to play Molly
23:46
Speaker 1: and I. And here's one thing I was I know
23:48
Speaker 1: about myself. Sure, I'm sure there was some talent, and
23:53
Speaker 1: you know, I write in the book about what the
23:55
Speaker 1: producers saw in me that tipped the scale for me
23:58
Speaker 1: to be Molly um which has been boosoling to me.
24:05
Speaker 1: But what I know why I know I am Molly
24:10
Speaker 1: is because more than acting, my role was to be
24:16
Speaker 1: a support to ease of right, and that that is
24:21
Speaker 1: a role that I wholeheartedly play. I play that position
24:26
Speaker 1: like fiercely. What does that mean? There's there are tons
24:31
Speaker 1: of other people that could have acted Molly and been
24:34
Speaker 1: probably better, Like it would be a different version, right,
24:37
Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm not holding my skills because I
24:40
Speaker 1: think I'm I bring to her something that we can't
24:44
Speaker 1: unsee anymore. So like I'm Molly, but my position, whether
24:51
Speaker 1: anyone asked me to be it or not, is I
24:54
Speaker 1: came in there and being like, yo, I gotta protect
24:58
Speaker 1: the head. M I'm number two. She I'm writing shotgun.
25:02
Speaker 1: This is her show. So it was never about I
25:07
Speaker 1: got pop. I got a shot. You know what you need?
25:10
Speaker 1: You're good yo this. Other people come on set and
25:15
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, not picking up the context. Clue, this
25:17
Speaker 1: is not the time to be talking like you got
25:20
Speaker 1: If she go down, we go down. Stop, you know
25:23
Speaker 1: what I mean? And I think for me that was important.
25:27
Speaker 1: That's I'm like, say what you want to say? Sure,
25:29
Speaker 1: I mean I got blessed from it. But like my
25:33
Speaker 1: major role, yo, present that because how I show up
25:37
Speaker 1: in this capacity one day, I'm mana have my own
25:40
Speaker 1: show because someone's gonna show for me in that same capacity,
25:43
Speaker 1: whether they whether I asked for it or not. I
25:45
Speaker 1: so good seeds mm hmm to say it lightly, yeah,
25:55
Speaker 1: you so epic seeds. You really do you so big
26:00
Speaker 1: seeds and people in situations in the world and yourself.
26:08
Speaker 1: Thank you as to you, but like a dress light
26:11
Speaker 1: like I'm here kicking it with you and and and
26:14
Speaker 1: being transparent and vulnerable and open with you because I'm like,
26:16
Speaker 1: that's you, admit that and I I I rocks with
26:22
Speaker 1: it so heavy because that's the space I desire to. Like, man, again,
26:27
Speaker 1: if I only get one of these, I'm not I'm
26:30
Speaker 1: not doing it with folks that I got an eggshell around.
26:33
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it with folks. And I'm like toxic.
26:36
Speaker 1: Life is too short, man, Like, That's what I keep
26:38
Speaker 1: coming back to, Like could we potentially contort and maneuver
26:43
Speaker 1: ourselves and all kinds of ways for you know, what
26:47
Speaker 1: we're imagining is the sake of others? Um sure? But
26:53
Speaker 1: why okay? This is yeah, yeah, okay, listen, they're busy
27:06
Speaker 1: that deep size. How I mean when you beat dropping
27:08
Speaker 1: nuggets on me, I'm like, okay, she's dropping all like
27:11
Speaker 1: this dropping gems with yes, this makes absolute sense because
27:15
Speaker 1: you've bean dropping like dripping the drip drop dropping, Okay,
27:19
Speaker 1: all the gems and it's just like you're I remember
27:23
Speaker 1: you said something you said verrified air. I'm like, you
27:29
Speaker 1: talk about yourself too, because if you if you don't
27:32
Speaker 1: give you what you give other people. Baby like this product,
27:36
Speaker 1: open it drinking. Get high on your own supply. I
27:39
Speaker 1: know Biggie told us not to, but get how on
27:41
Speaker 1: your own supply because your supply is abundant and it
27:44
Speaker 1: is rich and it is good. It's good. Thank you, friend.
27:50
Speaker 1: I receive all of that, and I promise you I
27:53
Speaker 1: get so high on my own supply. We're still talking
27:56
Speaker 1: about like grace. Let's so um. This is then a
27:59
Speaker 1: wonderful show. Um, this is an amazing show. I love
28:06
Speaker 1: you so much. I love you so much. You are
28:11
Speaker 1: epic in so many ways. You are you. You are
28:14
Speaker 1: just a fantastic human being, but like just a breathtaking
28:21
Speaker 1: friend like you really are. I'm so grateful for you.
28:26
Speaker 1: Your book Bamboozled by Jesus by Yeshua is in stores
28:31
Speaker 1: right now in all the places. You have your podcasts,
28:35
Speaker 1: you have your show final Susan, I'm insecure. I cannot
28:40
Speaker 1: um and whenever I whenever I miss you and I
28:42
Speaker 1: don't see you, I just pop you on HBO and
28:44
Speaker 1: I watch your comedy special again. I love you. I
28:46
Speaker 1: let you tickle my soul that way. Tickle my didn't
28:49
Speaker 1: feature husband. If you do not use the words that
28:52
Speaker 1: deVie uses to describe me. And now I'm moving this world.
28:55
Speaker 1: I don't want it. Keep it. I don't want it tickle.
28:58
Speaker 1: If I don't tackle your soul, you want to share
29:01
Speaker 1: with me partically yourself? What are we doing? Get out
29:04
Speaker 1: of here? I love your friend. Thank you for blessing
29:07
Speaker 1: us on the show today. Thank you, m M You're
29:10
Speaker 1: the best, bah bah bah as always everyone, thank you
29:15
Speaker 1: for listening, Thank you for rocking with the show. Go
29:17
Speaker 1: ahead and drop that very abundant, beautifully worded review with
29:22
Speaker 1: the five stars and the app store. Um and share
29:25
Speaker 1: this with a friend. Let's really expand the way that
29:27
Speaker 1: we hold space for ourselves and the way we hold
29:31
Speaker 1: space for our friendships. Um, and a little soul work
29:34
Speaker 1: that may feel good. Gleaned from this episode is maybe
29:39
Speaker 1: spend a little time today or when you get a
29:42
Speaker 1: moment um to really sit in and investigate are the
29:47
Speaker 1: relationships in your life. Feeling nourishing, is your own relationship
29:52
Speaker 1: with your self feeling nourishing? And if the answer is
29:56
Speaker 1: not a resounding yes, s us to explore, explore why not,
30:02
Speaker 1: and explore what possibilities may be available to you, What
30:06
Speaker 1: what choices you can make, Be a little choosy with
30:10
Speaker 1: your life, choosy love. So all right, let you guys
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Speaker 1: please