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Episode 23: Hidden Pictures By Jason Rekulak Book Review | Minnesota Dumb Crimes & Laws | Crying In The Closet · This Is My Circus

• 0:00
  Hey, this is Stephanie and I am Meredith.
• 0:02
  And welcome to, this is my circus.
• 0:06
  We, we'll get this right one day.
• 0:08
  I dunno what I, why?
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  I always feel like I need to like do something different each time.
• 0:13
  Me too.
• 0:14
  I dunno why either we need to just record it and use the same intro every time.
• 0:18
  That's what we definitely should do.
• 0:20
  Yes.
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  Oh goodness.
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  So how has your week been?
• 0:24
  Um, well, let's start with you because I feel like you've had a lot going on.
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  I know you're super, super busy.
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  So, um, for our listeners, if we do sound a little funny, we're doing a Zoom.
• 0:35
  Um, I'm in the car rider pickup line at school, and, and I'm, I'm here in park, so I am being safe, but, um, um, but you have just going on.
• 0:51
  What's the deal?
• 0:52
  Oh, I just, uh, I, you know, I know that we've talked, um, you and I have talked, uh, one-on-one, um, just about like having anxiety and, and just overwhelmed.
• 1:00
  And, um, I think being away for nine days at the World Championship, um, it put me so behind and.
• 1:08
  So I have just been having some moments.
• 1:12
  Yeah.
• 1:12
  Understand.
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  I love my closet crying.
• 1:16
  No, I've, I've been there.
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  I've cried in my closet as well.
• 1:19
  Yeah.
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  Um, it's just sometimes and I get to that point where I'm so overwhelmed that I.
• 1:25
  Just give up.
• 1:26
  Yeah.
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  And throw my hands up in the air and just let it all burn down around me.
• 1:31
  Yeah.
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  And that's, that was where I was at and you know, I, I kept, I'm like, I'm gonna get it together tomorrow.
• 1:38
  I'm gonna get it together tomorrow.
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  And, yeah.
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  You know, today was the day that I, someone gotten it together.
• 1:45
  It's hard.
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  It's difficult.
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  Yeah.
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  It's difficult.
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  And then, you know, trying to, you know, do like break down in front of your kids and you know, like it's just, yeah.
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  You know, mommy is not easy.
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  Like they don't talk about the hard stuff.
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  Yeah.
• 1:59
  Yeah.
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  I know, and I was foolish enough to think when Jackson was little, that that was the hard time.
• 2:06
  I did not realize how much.
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  Harder and ev just, you know, different aspects of it I didn't think about at that time.
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  I was just like, please God, let us sleep through the night at some point.
• 2:15
  Yeah.
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  And then you don't sleep through the night because they're out with a friend or on, you know, somewhere else.
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  So, um, yeah.
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  I'm sorry.
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  Well, hopefully this week you get yourself together a little bit.
• 2:28
  Yeah.
• 2:29
  Well, on a brighter note, I did find my AirPod.
• 2:35
  Brandon didn't.
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  Brandon didn't steal it.
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  The public apology?
• 2:39
  No.
• 2:40
  No, there's no apologies because he even said it was something he would've done.
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  So where was it?
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  Um, so I went to go get dinner out of the oven and I grabbed my oven mitt.
• 2:53
  And it was stuck inside my oven mitt.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  Like how, how does, how does it get in the oven mitt?
• 3:01
  I don't know, but that's where I found it.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  I was doing the Find my AirPod, but I guess it was dead so it wouldn't beep.
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  Yeah.
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  And it kept showing like in the, like my office or like on that side of, you know, where the kitchen is, it was on that side of the house and I couldn't.
• 3:18
  Well, why didn't you think to look in the oven mint?
• 3:21
  I mean, dude, that should I even looked, I looked in the fridge and Dylan's like, why would it be in the fridge?
• 3:25
  Yeah.
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  I'm like, I Right.
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  Could I Oh yeah.
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  Could be unfair.
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  I've done that before.
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  Yep.
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  Yeah.
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  So, or put fridge stuff in a cabinet, um, thinking that I was putting it in the right place.
• 3:35
  Yeah.
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  Um, oh, well, I'm glad you found it.
• 3:38
  Me too.
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  I didn't have to buy any pair.
• 3:41
  So Jackson and one of his friends were riding the golf cart the other day and they were riding on the road behind us and they found a wallet.
• 3:48
  And, um, they figured out who it belonged to and we know the kids, so we were like, oh, let's go take it.
• 3:53
  So Jackson and I hopped on the golf cart like the next day'cause it was getting dark or whatever.
• 3:58
  And, and you could tell the wallet had been there for a while.
• 4:00
  So it wasn't like a emergency, like there was no important cards in there at that time.
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  And so I got the wallet, Jackson and I jumped on the golf cart to go and, um, it started sprinkling and Brian was like, it's gonna rain.
• 4:15
  And I was like, it'll be fun.
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  This is an adventure.
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  No, we got like up our door, like it dropped and I'm yelling, crying like, go Jackson, go.
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  And we got like halfway there and I was like, turn around and come back.
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  So we came back and um, of course Brian was like, I told you so.
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  Oh, I actually took a picture in the middle of it.
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  I'll have to post on our page.
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  'cause it was just one of those ridiculous, I can't believe we're, I thought this was a, a good parenting idea.
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  Yeah.
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  Um, but anyway, we came home and I have no idea where I put the wallet.
• 4:46
  So this poor kid's wallet with his carins pass from last year is in my house somewhere.
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  I know, I know.
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  So I lose things randomly too.
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  That was a long way to get back to that story.
• 5:00
  Well, I've, I've, I've done, I, I lose stuff all the time and I, I mean, you know, your brain's going all over the place all the time and Yes, I lose stuff.
• 5:11
  I, I should like buy like every air tag, available air tags on everything.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Um, so how did Dylan like school last week?
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  He loves that school and I'm so glad, like, I'm so relieved and it, you know, it made it transition easy.
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  He knew the kids.
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  Oh, some kids there, he knew.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, I think like one or two kids that are in all of his classes, so it wasn't like, awesome.
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  He was like, totally.
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  You know, alone.
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  Yeah.
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  Um, lacrosse started today, so he's super excited.
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  He actually, I just got the notice that he's at home now.
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  but today was their first practice and, okay.
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  So he's really, really excited about that.
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  he's absolutely loving being able to drive to school.
• 5:53
  oh yeah.
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  How are you handling that?
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  I just follow him on life 360 whole, every Yeah.
• 6:00
  The whole way.
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  I would do the same thing.
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  And then I'm like, you know, like he, he was out all weekend, you know, he, he, we gave him the truck, like Brandon's old truck.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And it's like a 2004 Nissan.
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  It's like, not anything like spectacular.
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  And, you know, I think that's perfect.
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  Yeah.
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  but it has four wheels and it gets'em to where it needs to go.
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  So we got the couple of things that needed to be fixed, fixed, um, last week.
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  And so Friday we picked it up and he got the truck.
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  so of course we didn't see him the entire weekend.
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  He ran in to like get a change of clothes and then ran out again.
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  Oh gosh.
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  I know that's so, yeah.
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  but, when he ran in I'm like, Hey, do the dishes Yeah.
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  Before you leave again.
• 6:40
  Hold on.
• 6:40
  Yeah.
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  So, um, yeah, but he's, he's loving life right now and, couldn't wait for lacrosse practice to start, so, yeah.
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  Good.
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  I can't wait to hear how that goes.
• 6:50
  And he gets out at nine o'clock every Friday.
• 6:51
  So like, what's there?
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  Not like, it's like a four day week, like every, every day.
• 6:58
  So what time is his, um, lacrosse practice?
• 7:01
  Until, so they get out in I think like one 30 or two o'clock, like an extended practice.
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  Um, they do weightlifting two days a week three days.
• 7:10
  Oh, two days a week.
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  Yeah, it's two and two.
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  So, um, and then they have off on Fridays from lacrosse.
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  Awesome.
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  Good.
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  And I know they get out at like 10 30, but I think they have like a lunch break and then they have practice, right?
• 7:23
  They don't actually serve lunch there.
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  so Right.
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  But they have a chance to, they have a, I guess to go in between break.
• 7:29
  Um, so if they aren't doing a sport and they're not taking their electives online, then I think that they, they could have more classes like in person, but like on the sports program, yeah.
• 7:40
  They do their lessons online so they can get out early.
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  Yeah, that is good.
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  I'm glad that he is loving it.
• 7:47
  So then I was like, well, you know, you've got like really good hours that you, you know,'cause he wants to get a job, to have extra money.
• 7:52
  So my, Friend Edina, has a photo booth business, where they set up like a photo booth at weddings and stuff and Yeah.
• 7:59
  Put all the funky little Oh, yeah.
• 8:02
  And boas and whatnot.
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  So, she was looking for some help and, So he's gonna go help with the setups and as if he gets more comfortable and outgoing, like having people dress up and, oh, he'd be good at that though.
• 8:17
  He'd be good at that.
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  I think so.
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  Yeah.
• 8:19
  They're so goofy that they would have no problem, like throwing hats at people.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  Put this on, put this on sunglasses.
• 8:32
  Jackson.
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  I take him to school in the mornings.
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  and God bless, God bless, hoof.
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  Do, do what?
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  I said.
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  God bless you, hoof.
• 8:41
  You know, it's really not that the first few days were kind of bad, but now that we've kind of figured out our times mm-hmm.
• 8:47
  It's not that bad.
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  It actually goes pretty smoothly.
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  Knock on all the things.
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  Plastic, wood, metal, whatever.
• 8:53
  Um, but I have a friend who's a teacher in elementary school and she needed.
• 8:58
  Help with getting her daughter to school in the morning.
• 9:01
  So I was like, yeah, I can get her on the days that she's not riding with another friend.
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  No problem.
• 9:04
  Yeah, it's, you know, a mile outta the way.
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  It's not that big of a deal.
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  And, she rides with us.
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  I thought Jackson would just sit there and just chill and look out the window.
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  But he is always like vibing, like singing.
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  I think starting a little bit later for him is working really well too since they start at nine.
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  So they get there at like 8 45 or eight 50, something like that.
• 9:27
  So that's so much better for him than getting there at like seven 30.
• 9:31
  Yeah.
• 9:31
  Um, yeah, I think so.
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  These boys are just so goofy though.
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  They just have these personalities that are just so, I was telling him that there's another girl that might need some rides sometimes, and he was like, bro, you need to pay me for this.
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  Get up early to go.
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  And I was like, No, shut up.
• 9:51
  You know, being stupid with him.
• 9:52
  And I was like, I have an idea.
• 9:54
  And he was like, what?
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  I said, we're gonna have every day a different musical day.
• 10:03
  Taylor Swift.
• 10:06
  And then Wednesday, I think we said Broadway Wednesday.
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  'cause he is like Broadway.
• 10:10
  Um, but Friday is my day and he's like, mama, are you really gonna do that?
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  I was like, yes, I'm gonna do that.
• 10:16
  So what's your day?
• 10:17
  What's your day?
• 10:18
  Uh, it's, it's, uh, fun Friday, but I need a better name, but I'm gonna play, it'll probably fun Friday.
• 10:24
  Yeah.
• 10:25
  Yeah.
• 10:26
  It'll probably be on nineties music.
• 10:27
  Yeah.
• 10:29
  Um, Dylan.
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  Dylan gets down with all sorts of nineties music.
• 10:32
  Yeah.
• 10:33
  Oh yeah.
• 10:33
  It's the best that there could be.
• 10:35
  Yes.
• 10:36
  Um, so Jackson did have to go to school early today because it's so hot here right now.
• 10:42
  They're having their football practice before school.
• 10:44
  Oh, instead of after.
• 10:46
  Yeah.
• 10:47
  Um, so he had so much stuff'cause he packed his bag to shower and stuff here.
• 10:53
  So close the change into then his regular book bag.
• 10:56
  And then I have some exciting news.
• 10:59
  Um, so, you know, with Clover Sports, there's a ninth grade at jv, a varsity.
• 11:04
  Mm-hmm.
• 11:05
  Jackson got moved up to play jv.
• 11:07
  Awesome.
• 11:08
  I know.
• 11:09
  I'm so proud of him.
• 11:09
  He's worked, you know, you know how hard he's worked.
• 11:11
  You've known him since he's been putting all that extra time in.
• 11:14
  So, um, yeah, he got, so he had to move his stuff from the ninth grade locker room to the high school locker room.
• 11:21
  So he had his tube, his book bag, his clothes changing bag, his helmet, his pads, and then another bag that had all his.
• 11:28
  Locker stuff like his pants and the girdle that they wear and all that stuff.
• 11:32
  So he was just walking around like a little dude with all his backs.
• 11:37
  Um, so that's why I'm here early to get him out, of school with regular times since they don't have practice.
• 11:43
  Yeah.
• 11:43
  Um, but I'm very excited for him.
• 11:45
  So he, he is, nervous.
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  But I think he'll do fine once he Yeah.
• 11:50
  You know, figures out his spot there.
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  So I'm proud of him, though.
• 11:52
  That's awesome.
• 11:53
  Oh my gosh.
• 11:54
  Congrats, Jay.
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  Woohoo.
• 11:55
  Yay.
• 11:56
  Yay.
• 11:56
  That's awesome.
• 11:58
  well you had asked me last week what my favorite crime was or my like Oh, most interested about.
• 12:04
  Yeah.
• 12:05
  Okay.
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  And only because when it happened, I, like you only heard the jokes and you only heard like the stupid stuff about it or like the man side of it, but Lorena, bob, it Yeah.
• 12:18
  Because you did not know the whole backstory of Right.
• 12:21
  All the abuse and everything that she put up with.
• 12:24
  Yep.
• 12:24
  And so when I actually, I first listened to, true crime obsessed, like their Yes.
• 12:30
  Episodes about it and then, I watched the documentary.
• 12:34
  Mm-hmm.
• 12:35
  And I just didn't know, like the whole backstory.
• 12:38
  Right, right.
• 12:39
  No, you don't want one.
• 12:39
  I was, I was like, uh, not even, uh, I don't think I was like 12 when it happened or something like that.
• 12:44
  Well, and because I really like, TCOs take on it because like you said, everybody was all just joking about awe.
• 12:51
  She cut his junk off.
• 12:52
  Mm-hmm.
• 12:52
  And you don't hear the other, the why, which, I mean, not that anything.
• 12:56
  Well, yeah, some things do validate that, but still like, It was just a big joke at that time.
• 13:01
  Yeah.
• 13:02
  Yeah.
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  So, because I just thought like the coverage on it was so, like, it was like they made it humorous.
• 13:08
  It's not funny, but like Right.
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  It was made into a big joke and they didn't tell her side of everything.
• 13:16
  Right.
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  Well, and they mentioned this on T C o too, that when she went on Dr.
• 13:20
  Phil, He made some kind of a joke about Oh, duh, duh.
• 13:25
  Yeah.
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  And I mean, come on dude.
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  Like, have a little bit of class.
• 13:29
  Yeah.
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  I, just some, some things aren't meant to be joked around about.
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  and her history of abuse definitely was not.
• 13:35
  Yeah.
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  the documentary you watched, was it the one that T C O did?
• 13:39
  Yeah.
• 13:39
  Mm-hmm.
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  Okay.
• 13:41
  Yeah.
• 13:41
  I've seen that one.
• 13:42
  Yeah.
• 13:43
  Uh, what, what's your favorite crime?
• 13:45
  well I was looking it up so I can make sure I got his name right.
• 13:48
  This is, one that's also on, I've heard it on Crime Junkie and I'm pretty sure I heard it on T C O.
• 13:53
  It's, the Death of Kendrick Johnson.
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  Mm-hmm.
• 13:56
  He is a boy that was in Georgia and they found him rolled up in gym mats.
• 14:02
  Yeah.
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  with the mats standing up.
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  and they said that he died of natural causes.
• 14:07
  Yeah.
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  And it's.
• 14:09
  In my opinion, not how he died.
• 14:12
  So I would like to get to the bottom of that and, um, get that one solved for everybody I know with our, with our skills, I'm telling you, why not I've got a Google machine.
• 14:28
  No, but there's just so much.
• 14:29
  I watched some more, documentaries and I can't remember.
• 14:32
  There was several that were like on Hulu and Prime and all that, but just the different players that were involved in that.
• 14:39
  Some of the kids he went to school with and the parents that were very influential in, law enforcement.
• 14:44
  Yeah, like F B I type.
• 14:46
  And so there's something sneaky going on there that.
• 14:50
  I'm not digging.
• 14:51
  we had talked too, since we're on the subject that we were gonna give some podcast recommendations.
• 14:57
  Oh yeah.
• 14:57
  So I'll go first while you, you, since I'm kind of springing it on you.
• 15:00
  have you ever listened to Crime Junkie?
• 15:03
  I have.
• 15:04
  Okay.
• 15:04
  So I'm, that's actually how I started listening to True Crime.
• 15:07
  That was like my first True Crime Yeah.
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  Podcast.
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  And I binge listened.
• 15:11
  oh yeah, totally.
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  To God knows how many episodes.
• 15:16
  and I don't know, I kind of like out, I dunno if I, I don't wanna say I outgrew it, but, I just wasn't vibing with it anymore.
• 15:24
  Yeah.
• 15:25
  Well sometimes it depends on, do you want somebody to sit down and tell you the story like they do, or do you want some banter and discussion about it?
• 15:32
  Yeah, so sometimes, I mean, you want different things, but there's one that Ashley Flowers, who's one of the co-hosts, does called The Deck.
• 15:39
  Mm-hmm.
• 15:40
  And, that's kind of just like a, a quicker, Who done it kind of thing.
• 15:45
  Yeah.
• 15:45
  and that one's interesting.
• 15:47
  I was listening to one the other day though, a years ago, and I'm looking this person's name too.
• 15:55
  And it was in Charlotte, North Carolina.
• 15:57
  And I was like, oh, okay.
• 15:59
  This is probably something that I've heard about.
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  And it's, um, Katie Memory Jones is her name.
• 16:04
  Mm-hmm.
• 16:05
  Well, she's like, okay, so I interviewed the police detective and his name was, and I don't, well, I don't know if I should say his name or not, but I was like, I know him.
• 16:13
  It was the craziest thing.
• 16:15
  Yeah.
• 16:15
  And then I heard his voice and I was like, oh, he sounds the same.
• 16:21
  So it was really cool.
• 16:22
  It was a really cool thing to, to know somebody who was trying to help out with some of these things.
• 16:27
  during Covid when we were Super bombarded with online orders'cause everything was closed.
• 16:32
  I was doing packages for like hours and hours on top of hours a day.
• 16:35
  And so I would just listen to either TV shows or like podcast, whatever.
• 16:40
  And there was a crime, like in my neighborhood or in my whatever.
• 16:44
  It's a, it was a TV show.
• 16:46
  And so the one episode was in Rock Hill.
• 16:50
  It's like the nineties or something like that.
• 16:52
  And I was like, no way.
• 16:54
  Like even if you were like a town close to you, you're like, what?
• 16:56
  I know.
• 16:57
  Um, and then there was another one in Gastonia and then the one in Gastonia, the person that went Missings last name was Fraley and Dylan's best friend's.
• 17:04
  Last name is Fraley is Fraley.
• 17:06
  And I was like, what the heck?
• 17:08
  That's crazy.
• 17:09
  That's like when you're like, oh my gosh, they've be related or know something.
• 17:13
  Something.
• 17:13
  Yeah.
• 17:13
  It was so weird.
• 17:14
  Um, but yeah, so like I totally, I was like, you just don't expect to hear.
• 17:18
  Like your area?
• 17:20
  No, no.
• 17:21
  I've actually been watching something on one of the, the shows where it talks about a crime and it was in Lake Wiley.
• 17:28
  Oh.
• 17:29
  And it was a situation where the woman poisoned her husband with Visine over a period of time.
• 17:35
  Yes, yes, yes.
• 17:36
  Uhhuh.
• 17:37
  Mm-hmm.
• 17:37
  Yeah.
• 17:38
  And I can't remember their names, but, um, anyway, yeah, that was, that was wild.
• 17:42
  To be like, oh yeah.
• 17:44
  Like totally.
• 17:46
  One of my best friends is a cop in Charlotte.
• 17:48
  And so the stuff that she tells me that like, you don't hear about?
• 17:53
  Yeah.
• 17:54
  Yes.
• 17:54
  And I'm like, oh, sweet Jesus.
• 17:59
  Yeah.
• 17:59
  It's crazy.
• 18:01
  I don't wanna know.
• 18:03
  Well, one I have actually, because you know, like I'm a huge Brittany Fan, speaking of, did you see that her husband fi, they filed for divorce?
• 18:10
  But is it really her?
• 18:11
  Because her wedding picture does not look like her.
• 18:14
  I know, but I'm just Hopefully that's good.
• 18:16
  A good sign.
• 18:17
  So do you remember when she was married for like 55 hours in Vegas?
• 18:22
  Yes.
• 18:22
  To her high school friend or something.
• 18:24
  Jason, somebody.
• 18:25
  Oh my God.
• 18:25
  Random knowledge, but yes.
• 18:27
  Yes.
• 18:27
  So he went on the podcast Dumb Blonde, and that is Jelly Roll, like the country singer Jelly Roll.
• 18:34
  Oh yeah.
• 18:34
  It's his wife who does the podcast.
• 18:36
  Okay.
• 18:37
  And she's an ex hooker.
• 18:40
  She's like wide open.
• 18:41
  I mean, like, I, I absolutely love the podcast.
• 18:43
  It's like just, yeah.
• 18:45
  When you want easy listening, that's what I go so anyway, she had him on there and It was like the tell all of Brittany.
• 18:51
  Oh my gosh.
• 18:52
  And saying everything.
• 18:53
  The conspiracies are not that she's dead or anything, but he said that she still calls him and they like control like every single little thing she does, she has to have burner phones to make phone calls.
• 19:02
  me looking up that, um, yeah.
• 19:05
  Podcast right now.
• 19:06
  Dumb blonde.
• 19:07
  Yes, episode.
• 19:12
  Oh, really?
• 19:12
  Yeah.
• 19:14
  I like her.
• 19:16
  So I, I really do like that.
• 19:17
  they swear a lot.
• 19:18
  They talk about some crass stuff.
• 19:20
  So if that's not your vibe, yeah.
• 19:22
  You know, that's probably not the podcast for you, but if you're like me and you love swearing and you love all the, the, the drama and the details of other people's lives, then this is for you aboard, right?
• 19:37
  Yeah.
• 19:39
  It was a shirt that I saw the other day that I sent it to my, and I was like, I need you make this for me.
• 19:44
  And.
• 19:46
  Something like, I'll, I'll love all the drama.
• 19:48
  I just don't want it to be mine, or something like that.
• 19:51
  That was like the first thing that we said on our, our first or second podcast.
• 19:55
  Yes.
• 19:56
  Yes.
• 19:57
  I don't wanna be involved in the drama.
• 19:59
  I just wanna know 107% of what happened.
• 20:02
  Yeah.
• 20:04
  since you've been so crazy, did you get to read our book, our Hidden?
• 20:08
  I did.
• 20:08
  I did and I absolutely loved it.
• 20:09
  yeah, I thought it was awesome.
• 20:11
  Totally good.
• 20:12
  Do you have the blur pulled up?
• 20:13
  Yeah.
• 20:13
  Cool.
• 20:13
  I do.
• 20:14
  so we, it was hidden pictures.
• 20:15
  I'm not gonna even try the dude's name.
• 20:18
  Was it Jason something?
• 20:19
  I dunno.
• 20:20
  Yeah.
• 20:22
  Alright.
• 20:22
  Mallory Quinn is fresh out of rehab when she takes a job as a babysitter for Ted and Caroline Maxwell.
• 20:27
  She is to look after their five-year-old son, Teddy Mallory immediately Loves it.
• 20:32
  She has her own living space, goes out for nightly runs and has the stability she craves and she sincerely bonds with Teddy, a sweet, shy boy who is never without his sketchbook and pencil.
• 20:42
  His drawings are the usual fair trees, rabbits, balloons.
• 20:46
  But one day he draws something different.
• 20:47
  A man in a forest dragging a woman's lifeless body.
• 20:51
  Then Teddy's artwork becomes increasingly sinister, and his stick figures quickly evolve into life-Like sketches well beyond the ability of any five-year-old, Mallory begins to wonder if these are glimpses of a long, unsolved murder, perhaps relayed to a supernatural force, knowing just how crazy it all sounds.
• 21:08
  Mallory nevertheless sets out to decipher the images and save Teddy before it's too late.
• 21:13
  So, trigger warnings, drug use, kidnapping, um, gender identity.
• 21:18
  Mm-hmm.
• 21:20
  I think that's all the stuff that I've hit on.
• 21:23
  Yeah.
• 21:24
  Yeah.
• 21:24
  but I loved it.
• 21:26
  I mean, I loved, I loved it.
• 21:27
  I, I thought it was written so good at the, the twists, throughout the whole book.
• 21:31
  Yes.
• 21:32
  I, I would love, love to go back and listen to it again, knowing Yeah.
• 21:37
  What I know, I didn't see what I missed.
• 21:38
  Well, the, the book did a really, in the author, sorry, Jason R let's just call him Jason.
• 21:43
  S not last name is not one that we wanna butcher.
• 21:45
  Um, we're on, we're on a first name basis with him.
• 21:48
  Yes.
• 21:48
  With Jason.
• 21:49
  So he does a really good job at leaving a lot of clues.
• 21:54
  Like in retrospect, you can look back and see like favorite colors mm-hmm.
• 21:58
  And things like that.
• 22:00
  That are subtle enough to not give things away, but they're obvious enough that it's out of the norm, so you know, to pick up on it, if that makes any sense.
• 22:10
  Yeah, yeah.
• 22:10
  Because a lot of times I miss Easter egg type of things.
• 22:14
  Yeah.
• 22:14
  but I think he did a really good job with that.
• 22:17
  I also liked the way that I felt like all of the loose ends were tied up.
• 22:22
  Mm-hmm.
• 22:22
  even when they circled back to the ghost, Annie, you hear a lot of that story too, so I, I like this book as well.
• 22:32
  I felt like it wasn't messy.
• 22:34
  like I said, all the loose ends were tied up and you got, you know, yeah.
• 22:39
  And even though I didn't finish the book with super happy, warm feelings, yeah.
• 22:44
  It still, I had closure.
• 22:47
  Yeah.
• 22:48
  Yeah.
• 22:48
  And I almost appreciate that it didn't end Yeah.
• 22:51
  With like one big happy family, you know?
• 22:53
  Like I, yeah.
• 22:53
  Because it's not reality, yeah.
• 22:55
  Um, so I appreciated the tactics that was used, to close it out.
• 23:01
  I love that she followed up with Teddy.
• 23:05
  Yeah.
• 23:07
  What, what an ending like didn't see that coming, you know, we talked about how we like unpredictable and all of the things and you know, you're trying to think on what's so special about this child and why is this child like what's going on?
• 23:23
  And Yeah.
• 23:24
  Totally blew me out of the water with that.
• 23:25
  Yeah, me too.
• 23:26
  I don't give tens very easily.
• 23:28
  I'd give this one a nine and.
• 23:31
  I would agree though.
• 23:32
  It's a really good book.
• 23:33
  This was a really good book.
• 23:34
  It was an easy read.
• 23:36
  Yes.
• 23:36
  it was insightful.
• 23:37
  It kept my second grade brain attention.
• 23:40
  Yeah.
• 23:41
  Yeah.
• 23:44
  I'm some more about him.
• 23:46
  Really liked his style.
• 23:48
  I did too.
• 23:49
  I felt like it was just twisted enough, but I didn't feel completely dark in, in my head.
• 23:55
  You didn't have to like, need a, a pal cleanser?
• 23:58
  No, not, not like some of these, not like the one, um, not, not even go by down there.
• 24:05
  That's gonna be Baltimore and books like you don't say the name.
• 24:11
  Um, so I really liked it.
• 24:12
  I'd give this one a, a a 9.5 as well.
• 24:15
  No, I mean, I'd give it a 10.
• 24:16
  I, I, I'll give it that.
• 24:18
  I liked it a lot.
• 24:19
  I did too.
• 24:20
  It caught my attention from the beginning.
• 24:22
  I did do the audio book.
• 24:23
  so yeah, I did too.
• 24:25
  And I actually, I really liked how the audio book was done as well.
• 24:27
  I thought it was done really well.
• 24:29
  it, it wasn't an annoying voice that you have to sit through for hours and hours.
• 24:35
  Yeah, yeah, it was, everything about this was good for me, so I enjoyed this.
• 24:39
  I also did read another book called A Mother Would Know Uhhuh Amber Garza.
• 24:44
  So if somebody else is looking for another book to read, I was gonna add it to our next list.
• 24:49
  But we're really getting a lot of books on our next list, and I need to.
• 24:53
  Nicole Eaton's book on our next list.
• 24:55
  Did your come yet?
• 24:57
  No, it hasn't come yet.
• 24:58
  I go on the site and it says like, there's not, it says it's shipped and it went like, first class, but there's no tracking number, to track it.
• 25:05
  There's probably just so many that got sent.
• 25:07
  It's just taking a minute for it to Yeah.
• 25:08
  Update stuff.
• 25:10
  so yeah, I would definitely recommend, hidden Pictures by Jason and, um, our next one is called Jar of Hearts and by Jennifer Hillier.
• 25:20
  Yep.
• 25:20
  And I have, I actually already listened to it.
• 25:23
  Have you?
• 25:23
  Okay, good.
• 25:24
  So that means it's available me hoop.
• 25:28
  Did you like.
• 25:33
  Yeah, but it, it wasn't horrible.
• 25:34
  I mean, like, I didn't find it horrible, like, you know, definitely got through it.
• 25:37
  Okay.
• 25:37
  Okay.
• 25:38
  Good, good, good.
• 25:39
  okay, cool.
• 25:40
  So that leads us up to doing our dumb crime and dumb loss.
• 25:45
  Yes, ma'am.
• 25:46
  Say it.
• 25:47
  What state did we do?
• 25:48
  Minnesota.
• 25:51
  Minnesota.
• 25:52
  okay.
• 25:53
  So do you wanna do dumb crimes first?
• 25:55
  Dumb criminals?
• 25:56
  Yeah, sure.
• 25:57
  Okay.
• 25:57
  You want the, yeah, I'll start us off.
• 25:59
  This is from St.
• 26:00
  Paul, Minnesota.
• 26:01
  Minnesota.
• 26:02
  Um, 26 year old Nicholas Wig checked his profile from a St.
• 26:06
  Paul home that he broke into, and then he didn't log off, so the homeowner said he was the world's dumbest criminal.
• 26:14
  Wood had come home to find his house ransacked, credit cards, ramp sacked as our friend Joey Toto would say.
• 26:21
  Um, um, credit cards, cash watch were all gone in their place.
• 26:26
  The thief had left a pair of tennis shoes, jeans, and a belt that were soaking wet because the raining outside it had been raining outside.
• 26:33
  So apparently I know if he's.
• 26:35
  Fits down.
• 26:37
  It never says anything in here on if he took pants or shoes.
• 26:40
  So I'm just picturing this dude leaving and like a t-shirt and like white, no, I had white.
• 26:48
  He like, that didn't fit properly and were like yellow with H Um, there was no Calvin Klein bottles here.
• 26:59
  No.
• 26:59
  No, no.
• 27:01
  So, um, the victim posted on Facebook using the burglar's profile since he had logged into his Facebook saying that he had burglarized him.
• 27:11
  he shared his phone number and the dude texted him later that day and he said, you left some things in my house.
• 27:16
  How can I get him back to you?
• 27:18
  So when he met up with them, the police were there, and, all.
• 27:23
  Yes.
• 27:25
  He wanted his clothes so bad, he wanted his Nikes back.
• 27:28
  so anyway, he could face up to 10 years in prison and$20 in fines.
• 27:33
  Oh my God.
• 27:35
  I know.
• 27:35
  Crazy.
• 27:35
  Right?
• 27:36
  All right, so another, another entry into our how not to be a dumb criminal.
• 27:41
  Yeah.
• 27:44
  do not log in on other people's computers.
• 27:46
  Right.
• 27:47
  Don't bring your cell phone, don't bring any devices, no Gs Like, why would you, why would you wanna do that?
• 27:52
  You're in the middle of breaking in and you're like, you know what?
• 27:54
  I just let, just check my notifications real fast.
• 27:57
  I mean, I don't get it.
• 27:58
  I don't get it.
• 27:58
  Maybe he was waiting for messenger, like his getaway car was there.
• 28:02
  Maybe, maybe he left his phone in the car and so, All of the thi, like he obviously didn't think beyond, let just log in.
• 28:15
  okay.
• 28:16
  Did you have a, a dumb criminal?
• 28:18
  Yes.
• 28:19
  There's so many in our know there.
• 28:21
  Minnesota.
• 28:22
  Yes.
• 28:26
  All right.
• 28:26
  a 37 year old landlord in Minnesota named Travis Carlson deliberately set his apartment on fire last Thursday.
• 28:35
  This is like a couple years ago, while blasting 33 year old Billy Joel song.
• 28:40
  We didn't start the fire.
• 28:41
  No.
• 28:42
  Oh, Travis drilled holes in his truck's gas tank, put the gas into cans, and then carried them back and forth.
• 28:49
  Up to his apartment.
• 28:51
  His downstairs tenant heard him smashing glass and breaking things for about 20 minutes.
• 28:55
  Then he knocked on the tenant's door and told them that the house was on fire.
• 29:00
  When firefighters arrived, they found the apartment on fire with, we didn't start the fire blaring from the unit.
• 29:05
  My gosh.
• 29:07
  And then in parentheses, the article says they totally should have responded by playing Alanis Morissette song.
• 29:12
  Ironic.
• 29:13
  Yeah.
• 29:15
  Or you ought to know.
• 29:16
  Yeah.
• 29:17
  Travis could face up to 20 years in prison.
• 29:19
  It's unclear why he did it or if he tried to argue that it was always burning since the world's been turning.
• 29:28
  That is so funny.
• 29:30
  That is so funny.
• 29:30
  And he put in a.
• 29:34
  In his truck, like why wouldn't you just get, go fill up the gas cans at like, why are you messing up your truck too?
• 29:39
  Yeah.
• 29:40
  Obviously he was not, he was a little unbalanced and had some things going on.
• 29:45
  Um, something.
• 29:47
  Yeah.
• 29:48
  Oh my gosh.
• 29:49
  That's crazy.
• 29:50
  You ready for a dumb laws?
• 29:51
  Yes, I am.
• 29:52
  well, just be glad that you're not in Minnesota because being jobless is illegal job now, by the way.
• 30:01
  You do.
• 30:01
  Yay.
• 30:02
  I do.
• 30:02
  Oh, congratulations.
• 30:03
  I start, um, thank you.
• 30:04
  I start the Tuesday after Labor Day.
• 30:07
  Awesome.
• 30:07
  Just doing all the background checking and all that kind of stuff.
• 30:10
  Now.
• 30:10
  I'm so excited.
• 30:10
  I forgot.
• 30:11
  Congratulations.
• 30:12
  But yes.
• 30:13
  How can be illegal?
• 30:14
  Like it's not necessarily.
• 30:16
  Your fault.
• 30:17
  There's gotta be more to that.
• 30:19
  I don't know.
• 30:19
  It didn't go into it.
• 30:20
  It just said if you're over, you're over 18 and you're capable of working and you, you do, you avoid it.
• 30:27
  That's crazy.
• 30:28
  That's crazy.
• 30:29
  So it, you cannot cross the state line with the duck on your head.
• 30:33
  How about a canary?
• 30:35
  About a swan or a goose.
• 30:37
  A goose.
• 30:38
  No.
• 30:38
  Goose is Those are mean.
• 30:40
  These are mean.
• 30:40
  Yeah, they're mean.
• 30:41
  I've been chasing bags before.
• 30:43
  Okay, well hopefully if you're old and you like to play bingo, you're not in Minnesota because state law limits nursing homes and senior centers to two days of bingo a week.
• 30:54
  Bingo.
• 30:54
  Every day.
• 30:57
  Bing.
• 30:58
  Have you ever played music?
• 30:59
  Bingo?
• 31:01
  I don't know.
• 31:01
  I don't think so.
• 31:02
  Oh, I love, we went, there's a local restaurant, um, it's in York, it's called Town Tavern.
• 31:07
  And on Wednesday nights they do music Bingo.
• 31:09
  And it's so much fun.
• 31:10
  Oh, we'll have to go.
• 31:12
  Yeah.
• 31:12
  It's so much fun.
• 31:13
  Oh, we can mic up and go.
• 31:16
  Um, okay, so I got another one.
• 31:18
  Lemme see.
• 31:19
  Um, oh my gosh.
• 31:21
  I'm looking at this list and I think we're looking at the same list.
• 31:24
  Do you have like a list of number one through whatever?
• 31:26
  Look at number six.
• 31:27
  I did like three or four different websites.
• 31:29
  I figured you would probably end up on the same one.
• 31:31
  So I just took some from like all these different places.
• 31:34
  Okay.
• 31:34
  Gotcha.
• 31:35
  Well, another one says, and this is not gonna be mine.
• 31:38
  I just think this is stupid.
• 31:38
  You can't cross with the chicken on your head.
• 31:40
  Like, why, why didn't they just put poultry?
• 31:43
  Um, okay.
• 31:44
  Um.
• 31:49
  On the phone without a parent's supervisor.
• 31:51
  okay, so, you're not allowed to park your elephants on Main Street.
• 31:55
  Oh, you have to park on the side streets, I guess so.
• 31:59
  Okay, so last one for me, eating a hamburger on Sunday is against the law in St.
• 32:04
  Cloud.
• 32:04
  Minutes old.
• 32:05
  Okay, I have two more.
• 32:06
  Okay.
• 32:07
  This one I'm kind of mad at I didn't put what town it was in, but it said policemen must kill stray cats.
• 32:13
  And so that one I didn't like at all.
• 32:15
  I don't like that one either.
• 32:16
  I mean, I'm not a cat person, but like, I don't want them to die.
• 32:21
  Um, and then people living in even numbered addresses may not water their plants on odd number days.
• 32:29
  I've actually heard something like that before.
• 32:31
  When, like locally, when we have like a drought and a water ordinance or something that, it's something like that here.
• 32:38
  Oh, I don't ever water anything.
• 32:40
  Like, I'm not like a.
• 32:41
  Yeah, I've got a black thumb.
• 32:43
  I don't have a green thumb.
• 32:45
  I do water, but I follow the rules.
• 32:49
  We have a well, so the rules don't apply to us.
• 32:51
  Yeah.
• 32:51
  cool.
• 32:52
  So I think on the same trend, we should do Wisconsin next week because I like to say it too.
• 33:00
  I hope that there's a lot of cheese laws.
• 33:02
  Should we make that the requirement that it has to involve cheese?
• 33:05
  Oh, and the crime.
• 33:07
  Okay.
• 33:07
  Well either your law or your crime has to involve chiefs.
• 33:11
  Yes.
• 33:12
  I like it.
• 33:13
  The A challenge.
• 33:14
  We haven't done one of those in a while.
• 33:15
  No, we haven't.
• 33:16
  Well, I hope the book comes today because Lord knows I need some, do you need a rock to come back?
• 33:28
  I need guidance.
• 33:30
  I know it's, it's frustrating and like we said, sometimes you get at that point where you just shut down, so yeah.
• 33:36
  Little things and cross it off the list and then move on to another little thing and cross it off.
• 33:40
  Yeah.
• 33:41
  well, Brandon is going, I think, to that event in California.
• 33:44
  I'm not going.
• 33:45
  okay.
• 33:46
  I need to like decompress, I think.
• 33:48
  And yeah, I don't need anything else on my plate or to get behind on anything else.
• 33:52
  So, he's gonna go, if he gets to go to Shear's house, I'm gonna be so mad that I didn't go.
• 33:58
  But I think for my mental health, this is the right choice.
• 34:02
  Yeah.
• 34:03
  Yeah.
• 34:03
  So this is me being a grownup.
• 34:06
  He won't get to go.
• 34:07
  He won't get to go.
• 34:08
  Oh my goodness.
• 34:09
  Next week we have, jar of Hearts and Wisconsin Cheese.
• 34:17
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• 34:18
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• 34:24
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• 34:26
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• 34:29
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• 34:29
  and then we will, also in our show notes'cause we have those fancy things.
• 34:34
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• 34:34
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• 34:39
  so if anybody wants to check that out, they can check that out as well.
• 34:42
  And, whatever other little like things that we, we always tell you guys that we love, we'll make sure to get up as well.
• 34:49
  So thank you guys so much for listening.
• 34:51
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• 34:52
  thank you for dealing with our crazy lives.
• 34:56
  This is it.
• 34:56
  This is what we should get.
• 34:59
  Hey, I'm just happy that that we, we recorded this week because it could've gone the other way.
• 35:04
  It could have.
• 35:05
  It could have, but we made it.
• 35:07
  We made it happen.
• 35:08
  Yes.
• 35:09
  All right guys.
• 35:09
  Thank you so much okay.
• 35:11
  Bye everybody.
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