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Ruby Franke Sobs In Court, Verdict In · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. Disgraced YouTube star mommy blogger
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  Speaker 1: Ruby Frankie cries in court when she is told she
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  Speaker 1: will serve up to thirty years in prison for the
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  Speaker 1: brutal abuse of her own children in a quote concentration
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  Speaker 1: camp like setting. Let that sink in a concentration camp
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  Speaker 1: like setting. You know, I was thinking about that. I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking about I asked the twins yesterday, do you
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  Speaker 1: want me to make mozzarella chicken or do you want
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  Speaker 1: me to make Irish shepherd pie for supper tonight? Which
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  Speaker 1: one would you like the most? Just thinking of any
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  Speaker 1: little thing I can do to make them happy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they're sixteen now, they don't really need me anymore. But
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  Speaker 1: anything I can do to try to make them happy
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  Speaker 1: makes me happy. This woman starved her children, She duck
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  Speaker 1: taped them, She abused, berated and humiliated her children. I
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  Speaker 1: know I can use a lot of parenting advice and tips,
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  Speaker 1: but I am telling you this woman needs to rot
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  Speaker 1: behind bars. Oh and get a load of this. She
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  Speaker 1: stands up in court and elocutes, in other words, blabs
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  Speaker 1: on and on about her distorted vision of reality that
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  Speaker 1: led her to abuse her children.
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  Speaker 2: Woman.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think you're any better than the other child
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  Speaker 1: abusers out there?
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  Speaker 2: Because you're not.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care how attractive you think you are, how
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  Speaker 1: educated you are, that you had millions of followers on
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  Speaker 1: your YouTube show. I don't care. You're going to jail.
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  Speaker 1: You're getting three hots and a cot at best. Imancy, Grace,
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  Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thanks for being with us here
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  Speaker 1: at Crime Stories and on series XEM one eleven. You've
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  Speaker 1: got to hear this. You've got to hear Ruby Frankie,
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  Speaker 1: who once had nearly three million followers to her Mommy
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  Speaker 1: Advice show on YouTube, I mean, listen to this thing
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  Speaker 1: in court.
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  Speaker 3: For the past four years, I've chosen to follow counsel
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  Speaker 3: and guidance that has led me into a dark delusion.
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  Speaker 3: My distorted version of reality went largely unchecked, as I
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  Speaker 3: would isolate from anyone who challenge me. I was led
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  Speaker 3: to believe that this world was an evil place, filled
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  Speaker 3: with cops who control, hospitals that injure, government agencies that brainwash,
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  Speaker 3: church leaders who lie and lust, have beens who refuse
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  Speaker 3: to protect, and children who need.
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  Speaker 4: Abused.
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  Speaker 3: My choice to believe and behave this paranoia culminated into
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  Speaker 3: criminal activity from which I stand before you today, ready
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  Speaker 3: to take accountability. Jody Hill D Grant was never my
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  Speaker 3: business partner, nor was I ever employed by her. I
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  Speaker 3: have never received wages from her or connections. Jody was
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  Speaker 3: employed as my son's counselor in two thousand nineteen, and
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty I paid her to be my mentor.
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  Speaker 5: It is important to me.
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  Speaker 3: To demonstrate my mercenary regret without brain. I take full
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  Speaker 3: accountability for my choices, and it is my preference that
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  Speaker 3: I serve be prison sentence.
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  Speaker 1: How much time Ruby Frankie, we'll spend behind bars will
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  Speaker 1: be determined by the Utah Board of Pardons and Paroles,
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  Speaker 1: and state law means she can only serve a maximum
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  Speaker 1: of thirty years.
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  Speaker 2: What does that mean to me?
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  Speaker 1: She's going to get out early. She'll probably do another
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  Speaker 1: YouTube show. Then I wonder if she's going to try
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  Speaker 1: to broadcast from behind bars. This woman will find a way.
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  Speaker 1: Ruby Frankie, six children in all breaks down in court,
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  Speaker 1: apologizing to her quote little chicks, Hello, would those be
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  Speaker 1: the ones that you bound with duct tape? Beat, humiliated
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  Speaker 1: and starved? Are those the quote? Little chicks? Okay, take
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  Speaker 1: a listen to this woman in court.
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  Speaker 2: What a nerve that.
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  Speaker 5: Is the moment duck who was consistently are you to safety?
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  Speaker 5: I can't see that. One of the last four years,
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  Speaker 5: I was in a deep undercurrent that leads to danger.
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  Speaker 5: I la'ture into darkness swillingly. I was so sorry, but
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  Speaker 5: all the right dark was light, and right was wrong.
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  Speaker 5: I don't do anything in this world for you. My
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  Speaker 5: d was to sacrifice all for you was monsterusy manipulated
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  Speaker 5: into something very ugly. I took for all that was soft.
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  Speaker 5: It's safe and good. That took for at the lever
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  Speaker 5: I had terrifires must have been for you.
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  Speaker 6: H the rest of cry.
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  Speaker 5: I d to suppose.
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  Speaker 1: You are your super everybody, just remember reality check as
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  Speaker 1: you're listening to her sobbing and carrying on in court.
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  Speaker 1: She tortured her children by holding their heads underwater, keeping
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  Speaker 1: them handcuffed and shackled, and starving them and telling them
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  Speaker 1: they were quote possessed.
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  Speaker 2: How did the whole thing unfold? Let's kick it off
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  Speaker 2: with our friends at ABC.
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  Speaker 7: Arrest documents saying the child escaped to a neighbor's home.
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  Speaker 7: The twelve year old child described by that neighbor in
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  Speaker 7: a phone call to police as emaciated and malnourished with
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  Speaker 7: open wounds. Court documents also describing deep lacerations from being
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  Speaker 7: tied up with a rope.
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  Speaker 6: About the saying that their back at the homeless bum.
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  Speaker 7: Police say they also found Frankie's ten year old daughter malnourished.
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  Speaker 7: Frankie is known for her strict parenting advice to millions
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  Speaker 7: of TikTok and YouTube followers.
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  Speaker 8: Police say a clearly malnourished twelve year old child crawled
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  Speaker 8: out of the window of Hildebrand's Ivans Area home. A
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  Speaker 8: neighbor called nine one one when he showed up at
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  Speaker 8: their house asking for food and water. Officers say his
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  Speaker 8: wrists were duct taped, he had wounds for being tied
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  Speaker 8: up across his body. Investigators say they found a ten
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  Speaker 8: year old girl inside the same house who was also.
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  Speaker 1: Wellnourished and also hearing our friends at KSL. So we
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  Speaker 1: have at least one child who had apparently just turned twelve,
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  Speaker 1: crawling out the window of the family home starved. And
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  Speaker 1: believe you me, if you haven't ever seen it, I
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  Speaker 1: hope you never do. I pray to God you never do,
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  Speaker 1: because when you see a child that has been starved
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  Speaker 1: as I have.
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  Speaker 2: It's something you never forget.
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  Speaker 1: I think about this twelve year old little boy to
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  Speaker 1: the point where he crawls out the window and goes
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  Speaker 1: to a neighbor asking for food, and the neighbors see
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  Speaker 1: these lacerations, lacerations for the child has been tied up.
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  Speaker 1: And then we learn that there's another child in the home,
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  Speaker 1: a ten year old little girl with the same lacerations,
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  Speaker 1: mal nutrition, mal nourished living.
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  Speaker 2: In that home. Who and the hell is the mommy?
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  Speaker 1: Who and the hell is the dad that would do
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  Speaker 1: this to their children? Well, I hope you're sitting down,
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  Speaker 1: take a listen to our friends at GMA.
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  Speaker 7: A Utah mom influencer arrested facing six felony counts of
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  Speaker 7: aggravated child abuse. For the first time, we're hearing emergency
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  Speaker 7: responders as they see one of Ruby Frankie's children after
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  Speaker 7: he allegedly escaped through a window.
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  Speaker 6: And now that's how God favor oty you uncle.
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  Speaker 9: He is not tying up right.
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  Speaker 10: Tours around her with that uncle becoming.
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  Speaker 11: Becoming emotional regarding the childtel I'm glad to.
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  Speaker 1: Have with me an all star panel to make sense
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  Speaker 1: of what we know right now. But first I want
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  Speaker 1: to go to investigative reporter with TSL dot com out
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  Speaker 1: of Utah. Emily Ashcraft is with us. Emily, thank you
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  Speaker 1: for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: Who is this woman?
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  Speaker 1: And we're hearing a lot about the mom, But as
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  Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, the father can go straight to
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  Speaker 1: hell too.
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  Speaker 2: But first tell me who is she?
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  Speaker 9: She is a family YouTuber blogger and the family actually
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  Speaker 9: it's it's YouTube channel faded out or stopped recently and
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  Speaker 9: she started up another YouTube channel ler as a counselor instead.
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  Speaker 11: Of a mom.
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  Speaker 9: What is eight Passengers so that that's the family's YouTube channel,
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  Speaker 9: and you know she said in an article KSL wrote
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  Speaker 9: years ago that she started the channel because she wanted
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  Speaker 9: other moms who were kind of starting out with infants
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  Speaker 9: to see what it's like to have kids that are
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  Speaker 9: getting older. Kind of the rewards of motherhood is what
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  Speaker 9: she wanted to show off in her in the eight
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  Speaker 9: Passengers YouTube channel.
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  Speaker 2: How many followers did she have?
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  Speaker 1: Ruby Rankie, YouTuber mom of six Ruby.
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  Speaker 2: Rankie f R A n K E. How many followers?
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  Speaker 1: I understand over two point two million subscribers to eight
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  Speaker 1: Passengers channel.
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  Speaker 9: That's the numbers that I've seen as well.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, who in the hay is drinking the kool aid
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  Speaker 1: crime stories with Nancy Grace. This woman got a sweetheart deal.
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  Speaker 1: She took a plea deal that shaped thirty years off
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  Speaker 1: the maximum sentence and spared her from going to trial.
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  Speaker 1: She claimed she was manipulated by her business partner, Jody Hildebrant. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she's the devil's handmaiden as well. Sickening new details of
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  Speaker 1: the torture youtubeer Ruby Frankie subjected her children to are
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  Speaker 1: now public after she pleads guilty to felony child abuse.
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  Speaker 1: In newly released court documents, we see the true Ruby
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  Speaker 1: frank a sadistic mother, violent and cruel hell bent on
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  Speaker 1: hurting her own children that she claimed were possessed and evil.
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  Speaker 1: The children, as young as nine were forced to live outside,
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  Speaker 1: were barefoot and the brutal utah summer heat, often shackled
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  Speaker 1: and handcuffed. They were denied food and physically punished if
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  Speaker 1: they were even caught trying to sneak SIPs of water.
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  Speaker 1: During this Frankie would kick them while wearing heavy boots,
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  Speaker 1: hold their heads underwater, and even sometimes suffocate them by
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  Speaker 1: holding her hands over their noses and mouths. Finally, the
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  Speaker 1: children were rescued after one of her starving, emaciated sons
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  Speaker 1: escaped and ran to a neighbor's home begging for food
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  Speaker 1: and water. One child, a nine year old little girl.
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  Speaker 1: I found this in the court documents. The child only
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  Speaker 1: described as E F was forced to run barefoot down
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  Speaker 1: dirt roads. Her eleven year old little son known as
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  Speaker 1: R F, and the documents was forced to stand in
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  Speaker 1: the brow beating sunlight for days at a time. We're
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  Speaker 1: learning this from the court documents. When their handcuffs cut
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  Speaker 1: through their skin, Frankie and her so called business partner,
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  Speaker 1: Jody Hildebrant would cover the gashes with duct tape and
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  Speaker 1: place handcuffs over the tape. Her claims that Jody Hildebrant
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  Speaker 1: manipulated her to torture her own children. That's bs. Frankie
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  Speaker 1: often talked about prioritizing quote principles of truth end quote
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  Speaker 1: over your own children. Well, you're going to learn the
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  Speaker 1: whole new truth behind bars, woman, What more do we know?
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  Speaker 1: Dona Kelly, former Utah Senior Deputy District Attorney and lawyer
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  Speaker 1: for Crime Victims Legal Clinic, Donna, thank you for being
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  Speaker 1: with us, and I've seen this over and over and over.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just a story.
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  Speaker 1: It's not something we're reporting on. It's not some fiction
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  Speaker 1: or TV made for TV movie. Not only do you
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  Speaker 1: have the parents abusing the child horribly, but people around them,
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  Speaker 1: they know what's happening, and.
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  Speaker 2: They do nothing. What is wrong with these people.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not as if this just happened and
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  Speaker 1: they suddenly see, Oh, the child has bruises all over
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  Speaker 1: their arms.
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  Speaker 2: That's suspicious.
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  Speaker 1: They're starved, they're starved. That takes a long period of time,
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  Speaker 1: Donna Kelly, and nobody noticed.
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  Speaker 6: Yes it does.
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  Speaker 4: And unfortunately, many abusers are have the mindset that they
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  Speaker 4: work hard at portraying themselves as you know, the good parent,
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  Speaker 4: the parent you go to when you need advice. That
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  Speaker 4: type of thing is not uncommon, and so that appears
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  Speaker 4: to be what's going on here, is that this particular
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  Speaker 4: set of parents decided that they were going to portray
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  Speaker 4: themselves as the ideal parent and put that out there
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  Speaker 4: to the world, and apparently a lot, at least two
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  Speaker 4: point two million people.
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  Speaker 6: Were fooled.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, I just want you to hear something. Take a
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  Speaker 1: listen to our friends at Fox.
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  Speaker 12: Thirteen independent journalist and YouTuber Katie Paulson tracks child abuse cases.
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  Speaker 12: She says Frankie's YouTube channel eight passengers caught her attention.
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  Speaker 13: And she was saying how she would send her daughter
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  Speaker 13: to school with no food, and it was almost like
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  Speaker 13: she was bragging about it.
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  Speaker 12: She recalls another time when Frankie's son openly talked about
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  Speaker 12: his punishment on the channel.
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  Speaker 13: He was talking about how he had been sleeping on
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  Speaker 13: the floor on a bean bag chair and how his
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  Speaker 13: mom had taken away his bed and is taking away
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  Speaker 13: his door.
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  Speaker 2: Child.
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  Speaker 1: I had to sleep on a bean bank chair for
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  Speaker 1: seven plus months for pulling a prank on his brother,
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  Speaker 1: A prank I might add, that didn't even cause any
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  Speaker 1: physical harm. What he did was he told the brother
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  Speaker 1: they were going to Disneyland the next morning, and the
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  Speaker 1: brother got up and packed and put on his sunglasses
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  Speaker 1: and was ready to go. It was a joke. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't go to Disneyland. What I also don't understand. To
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  Speaker 1: doctor Dana Anderson, forensic psychologist and consultant, you can find
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  Speaker 1: her at psychologydoctor dot com. She's bad enough, but who
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  Speaker 1: are the two point two million people that tune in
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  Speaker 1: to watch her gibberish.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I can tell you I certainly wasn't tuning in,
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  Speaker 10: and I've never even heard of Ruby Frank until this
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  Speaker 10: came up. But what's more deplorables her sidekick Jody Hildebrandt,
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  Speaker 10: who's a license professional, who's observing this the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: Two point two million people are following this witch straight
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  Speaker 1: from hell. I want you to hear more of what
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  Speaker 1: we have learned. Take a listen to our friends at
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  Speaker 1: Fox thirteen.
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  Speaker 12: Diane Nevins remembers and being horrified at what she was
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  Speaker 12: watching on YouTube.
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  Speaker 14: It was kind of like every video there was something
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  Speaker 14: to be shocked about. Her son couldn't walk from until
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  Speaker 14: he was like two and a half years old, and
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  Speaker 14: she never got any help. And she admitted that she
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  Speaker 14: had a one point he'd fallen off the couch or
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  Speaker 14: she dropped him. He had gotten no no physical therapy anything.
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  Speaker 12: Nevin says when she commented her concerns, she was blocked
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  Speaker 12: by Frankie.
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  Speaker 1: What exactly to Emily Ashcroff, joining US investigative reporter for
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  Speaker 1: KSL dot com, what was found in the home After
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  Speaker 1: the neighbor has to call nine one one when he
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  Speaker 1: gets a twelve year old little boy who says his
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  Speaker 1: ten year old sisters inside of the same injuries starved,
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  Speaker 1: starved and covered lacerations showing the child had been tied up.
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  Speaker 1: What they cops fired When they go inside.
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  Speaker 9: They found a second child and that the two youngest
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  Speaker 9: children in the family were both so starved. The one
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  Speaker 9: that didn't crawl out and initially refused medical care, but
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  Speaker 9: they after interacting with her for a while, they kind
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  Speaker 9: of said, let's go to the hospital as well. And
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  Speaker 9: both of the women were churched with six counts, three
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  Speaker 9: for each child of aggravated child abuse.
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  Speaker 1: Authorities say that both children were described as quote their words,
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  Speaker 1: not mine, emaciated and malnourished, with open wounds and duct
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  Speaker 1: tapes around the extremities, begging for food and water, begging
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  Speaker 1: for food and water.
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  Speaker 2: And this woman And don't think.
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  Speaker 1: I'm letting the husband off, Oh no, I'm getting to him.
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  Speaker 1: This woman actually has a YouTube channel where she dispenses advice.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just imagining the inside of that home and how
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  Speaker 1: the children were bound with duct tape and apparently there's
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  Speaker 1: was burned with ropes having tied them up. What kind
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  Speaker 1: of mothering and fathering is that it brings to mind
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  Speaker 1: the so called.
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  Speaker 2: House of Horrors. Yes, the evil Turpin parents.
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  Speaker 1: Their daughter crawled out of the house out of a
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  Speaker 1: window and ran to call nine to one one to
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  Speaker 1: save her brothers and sisters. They were found in the
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  Speaker 1: same exact condition. Take a listen to our cut thirty five.
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  Speaker 1: Our friends at ac GTN.
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  Speaker 15: Officials say when they entered the Turpin home they found
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  Speaker 15: a modern day who foul smell, extremely dirty conditions, and
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  Speaker 15: they say it was immediately clear that the siblings were malnourished.
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  Speaker 15: Authorities say they found three of the children shackled to
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  Speaker 15: their beds with chains and padlocks, kept in dark and
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  Speaker 15: unclean conditions inside this Riverside County, California home. Deputies located
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  Speaker 15: twelve children inside the house as young as two years old.
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  Speaker 1: And upon further investigation, when authorities went to their last
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  Speaker 1: home where the Turpins lived, they found claw marks on
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  Speaker 1: the inside of closet doors where children had tried to
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  Speaker 1: claw their way out. And listen to this nine to
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  Speaker 1: one one call in our cut thirty six. This is
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  Speaker 1: a Turpin child that crawled out the window much like
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  Speaker 1: this influencer's child did.
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  Speaker 16: Okay, I listened a family of fifteen people, and my
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  Speaker 16: parents are abused in the abuse us and my two
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  Speaker 16: little sisters right now are chaned up.
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  Speaker 11: And how many of your siblings are tied up?
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  Speaker 16: Two of my sisters, one of my brothers.
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  Speaker 11: How are they tied up with rope or with what?
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  Speaker 2: It's ching?
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  Speaker 16: They're changed up to their beds.
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  Speaker 1: In the last days, we also learned that high profile
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  Speaker 1: YouTuber Rupy frank Ruby Frankie's husband who left her calls
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  Speaker 1: for the judge to quote jail his horrific and inhumane wife. Really, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she should go to jail, But where the hey were you?
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  Speaker 1: Where the hell were you, Kevin Frankie when your children
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  Speaker 1: were being abused?
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  Speaker 17: Huh?
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  Speaker 1: Can you answer that? That's right? Ruby Frankie's a strange
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  Speaker 1: husband publicly demands the max for Ruby Frankie. Yes, she
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  Speaker 1: deserves it. I'm just curious where he was this whole
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  Speaker 1: time while his children were being waterboarded and abused and tortured.
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  Speaker 1: That said, he's not on trial right now. Ruby Frankie's
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  Speaker 1: the one that pled guilty. What more do we know?
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  Speaker 2: Guys?
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  Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to doctor Free
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  Speaker 1: has joining US pediatrician pediatric emergency medicine expert, child safety expert.
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  Speaker 1: And you can find doctor free hes at pdmom dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Let me spell that doesn't look like it sounds. It's
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  Speaker 1: like pediatrician p as in Peter E. D as in
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  Speaker 1: daffodil I pedimom dot com. Doctor free has thank you
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  Speaker 1: for being with us. What this woman has is hair
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  Speaker 1: and makeup. That's what makes her different from the Turpin
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: family or the other mom. They're all builds a up
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: straight from hell. They're the devil's minions.
• 22:23
  Speaker 11: Yeah, and that's actually a very big misconception that a
• 22:26
  Speaker 11: lot of people have about abusers, child abusers specifically. I
• 22:30
  Speaker 11: think a lot of people have in their mind that
• 22:32
  Speaker 11: it's only a certain type of person that can do
• 22:35
  Speaker 11: these types of evil things to children, and it's not.
• 22:38
  Speaker 11: It can literally be anybody.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you think you know your neighbor, You
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: think you know all about what's going on in your neighborhood.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: These children are being starved in their own home, assaulted,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: tied up with ropes and with duct tape that we
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: know of based on the evidence we're hearing so far,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and nobody did a thing. And people kept watching this
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: woman online Jason Jensen joining me Salt Lake City, Utah,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: private investigator, owner of Jensen Private Investigations, co founder of
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the Cold Case Coalition, and you can find them at
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Jensenprivate Investigations dot com.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: This is in your neck of the woods. What do
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: you have to say?
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: Well, Nancy, there's a lot that can be said here.
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: It's interesting that you know, the outer image that was
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: being portrayed. You know, like you describer Glamour's mom raising
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: six kids, wants to show off to the world how
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: to do it right. Well, you know that seems to
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: really have like a Mormon household style image. Oftentimes in
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: the church here in our community, they try to portray
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: to the world a model style of raising a family,
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: and unfortunately this lady took matters way to the extreme.
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: Were not just showing like discipline online, but goes to
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: the extreme of child abuse.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Jason Jensen, isn't it true that your children have actually
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: watched this woman's YouTube channel?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: What did they think?
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: Yes, Nancy, Actually, my two kids were the ones that
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: brought Ruby Frankie to my attention, because years ago, when
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: they were younger, they watched and enjoyed the channel, and
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: sometimes they got a kick out of it because she
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: was such a gruff parent. She was always harsh on them,
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: and it kind of gave them the impression that she
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: was a disciplinary And what both of my kids said
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: is pertaining to the two younger kids the subjects the
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: victims of this recent arrest is they said they could
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: tell mom did not like these two kids very well.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Guys, when someone did try to speak out against frank
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: k take a listen to what happened in our cut
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: seventeen Fox thirteen.
• 25:05
  Speaker 12: Paulson also saying when she did a report on what
• 25:07
  Speaker 12: Frankie and her kids were seeing in the videos, she
• 25:10
  Speaker 12: was threatened to be sued. She forwarded me an email
• 25:13
  Speaker 12: from Frankie's lawyer sent in twenty twenty that says, in part,
• 25:16
  Speaker 12: we represent the family blog Channel Eat passengers who continued
• 25:19
  Speaker 12: to be harmed by defamatory videos uploaded to YouTube by
• 25:22
  Speaker 12: your client and saying it resulted in a baseless visit
• 25:25
  Speaker 12: by Child Protective Services.
• 25:27
  Speaker 13: They always say, if you see something, say something, and
• 25:31
  Speaker 13: in this case, when people said something, they were threatened.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Let me understand something.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Emily Ashcroft, joining us from KSL Child Protective Services went
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: to the hall and what they found nothing.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: They couldn't tell anything was going on.
• 25:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah, they went to the home to talk about those
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: claims that you brought up in videos. It was clear
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: that she sent a child to school without lunch and
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: had a child sleeping on a bean bag, and so
• 25:54
  Speaker 9: they went to investigate those and that didn't lead to
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: any charges at that point. You know it's red flags,
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: but I guess not red flagnivity.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I watched it.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: She brags about withholding food from her children.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: How is that? Okay? Take a listen our cut twenty two.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: This is Ruby Frankie in eight Passengers.
• 26:17
  Speaker 17: Russell got the big bedroom and Chack got the smaller bedroom.
• 26:21
  Speaker 17: And Russell's bigger bedroom also had a bathroom. But what
• 26:24
  Speaker 17: you guys didn't know was didn't get any room. He
• 26:28
  Speaker 17: didn't get anything. He was sleeping on the floor in
• 26:30
  Speaker 17: the family room.
• 26:31
  Speaker 11: Abby.
• 26:32
  Speaker 18: We took the phone away from Abby in November and
• 26:37
  Speaker 18: you may never get the phone back. Tobly, and my.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Kids are literally starving.
• 26:42
  Speaker 18: I hesitate to say this because it's gonna sound like
• 26:44
  Speaker 18: I'm like a mean barbarian. But I told the kids,
• 26:47
  Speaker 18: I said, I'm not even gonna let you eat breakfast
• 26:49
  Speaker 18: until you get your chores done.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: It's not just that she's withholding food, and it's not
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: just because they didn't.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Did chores one morning before school. It's all the time.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: You don't get to a point of starvation when you
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: occasionally skip breakfast. Isn't that true, doctor free hes pediatrician.
• 27:12
  Speaker 11: Yeah. Absolutely. You don't get to maeedd by missing a
• 27:15
  Speaker 11: meal or two here or there, and you don't appear
• 27:19
  Speaker 11: to be that to outside people unless you're missing a
• 27:22
  Speaker 11: substantial amount of meals and nutrition, which can then lead
• 27:26
  Speaker 11: to a whole host of other things that unfortunately these
• 27:28
  Speaker 11: kids may.
• 27:29
  Speaker 18: Have to deal with.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: So in one fell suite we hear about with holding
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: food until chores are done in the morning, not giving
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: one child.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: A place to sleep. But there's a certain amount of.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Bragging, of bravado, of joviality, of cheer, and the way
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: she describes how she's treating her children and what everybody
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: just stands by and licks it up.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Why they're a big at the trough Take.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: A list an hour cut twenty four more of Ruby Frankie.
• 28:06
  Speaker 19: I just got a text message from Eve's teacher and
• 28:10
  Speaker 19: she said that Eve did not pack a lunch today
• 28:13
  Speaker 19: and can I bring a lunch over to the school.
• 28:15
  Speaker 19: This happens quite often when you're having raising children, because
• 28:20
  Speaker 19: I know that her teacher is uncomfortable with her being
• 28:24
  Speaker 19: hungry and not having a lunch, and it would ease
• 28:27
  Speaker 19: her discomfort if I came to the school with lunch.
• 28:30
  Speaker 19: But I responded and just said, Eve is responsible for
• 28:33
  Speaker 19: making her lunches in the morning, and she actually told
• 28:36
  Speaker 19: me she did pack a lunch. So the natural outcome
• 28:39
  Speaker 19: is she's just going to need to be hungry and
• 28:42
  Speaker 19: hopefully nobody gives her food, and nobody steps in and
• 28:45
  Speaker 19: gives her a lunch.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: And isn't it true that at that time, Emily Ashcroft
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: ksl this little girl was only six years old.
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: That's what I saw is this is a first grader,
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: just you know, for hear she's bringing food to food
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: to school probably And the later the mom said, you know,
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: justifying it after after child protective services were called, she said,
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: you know, it was I didn't learn until two hours
• 29:14
  Speaker 9: before the end of school and it was a forty
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: five minute drive, so getting it to her.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Really, because that's not what she said in her.
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: Blood gratitude, she said it.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Was because the child didn't the six year old girl
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: did not pack her own lunch.
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: Change said that.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: She knew it would ease the teacher's discomfort if our
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: child had food. What about the child? What about the
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: child's discomfort? That's not all. Take a listen to our
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: cuts twenty seven to twenty eight more of Ruby Frankie.
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: Kevin and I. We have six children.
• 29:46
  Speaker 18: The two youngest are showing long patterns of selfishness. They
• 29:51
  Speaker 18: have been showing through their choices, their unwillingness to repent,
• 29:56
  Speaker 18: their unwillingness to sorrow over some pretty egregious choices that
• 30:00
  Speaker 18: they've made. So Kevin and I have decided that we
• 30:03
  Speaker 18: are going to give the gift of truth to them
• 30:06
  Speaker 18: this year for Christmas. We are going to give them
• 30:09
  Speaker 18: the gift of boundaries, and we're going to give them
• 30:12
  Speaker 18: the gift of repentance. So we sat down with them
• 30:16
  Speaker 18: and we let them know how deeply sorrowful we've been
• 30:20
  Speaker 18: because of the choices that they've been making, and how
• 30:23
  Speaker 18: it's affected their teachers at school, it's affected their peers,
• 30:27
  Speaker 18: it's affected in our home, the siblings, and we just
• 30:31
  Speaker 18: laid it out very clear, and we told them that
• 30:35
  Speaker 18: this year they are not going to be visited by Santa.
• 30:39
  Speaker 18: We let them know that Christmas morning, therefore, older siblings
• 30:43
  Speaker 18: will be getting Christmas presents to open and that they
• 30:46
  Speaker 18: will have the gift of love from their dad and.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I time stories with Nancy Grace Ruby Frankie guilty and
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: the horrible mistreatment of her children awful. And then the
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: hypocrisy of having a YouTube program devoted to childcare. I mean,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: you know, they always say the devil can be charming?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Ain't that the truth? I just want to get my
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: hands around this woman's neck.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Then not only does she.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Do this to her children behind closed doors, she brags
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: about it on a YouTube channel that is two point
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: two million followers.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: It's just absolutely heartbreaking to listen to her to portray
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: herself as the victim. You know, we told these two
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: children that their dad and I were very sorrowful, and
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: so she's portraying herself as the victim, which is a
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: very common abuser tactic, you know, gaslighting the victim. And
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: these are children. They need to learn by trial and
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: error as they go along, and the parents need to
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: be responding to them in that way, in a kind
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: and loving way. And it's just absolutely heartbreaking. I can
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: see why they were charged with severe emotional harm of
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: these two children. In the charging document, they're charged with
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: not only torture maltrition, but also severe emotional harm, which
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: it absolutely is.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: To doctor Dana Anderson, forensic psychologists and consultant, what do
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: you make of the other children, four of them getting
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: all their Christmas gifts from Santa and these two being
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: left out on Christmas morning, one of the biggest days,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: one of the two biggest days in the Christian year,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: that being Christmas and Easter, and they're left out because
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't quote repent.
• 33:11
  Speaker 10: Yeah, she wants to make an example out of them,
• 33:14
  Speaker 10: punish them, humiliate them. You know, it's all this sort
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: of brainwashing, gaslightingness on a six.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Year old, gaslighting, manipulating, abusing a six year old child
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: and her brother.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: So let me understand something.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: The Emily Ashcroft, the six year old child that had
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: food withheld. Would that be the now ten year old
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: child left behind in the home, starving and tied up
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: when the twelve year old brother escapes through the window.
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: That would be that same child.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: So this has been going on since the little girl
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: was six and the little boy was eight.
• 33:55
  Speaker 9: One of the things that Ruby Frankie said after her
• 33:58
  Speaker 9: arrest was that those children and weren't fit to be
• 34:01
  Speaker 9: around other children. And I'm not sure what she means
• 34:03
  Speaker 9: by that, but it seems like it was specific to
• 34:06
  Speaker 9: those two.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Where is the dad and all this? What is he
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: doing standing by twiddling his thumbs?
• 34:12
  Speaker 9: So at this point, Ruby Frankie and her children were
• 34:15
  Speaker 9: down in Ivans, which is probably about between three and
• 34:20
  Speaker 9: four hours from Springville. We know that Ruby Frankie was
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: there because she shows up in a video and that's
• 34:26
  Speaker 9: why she was charged. She was in a video that
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: was posted shortly before. We don't know if the dad
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: was down there in Ivans, up in Springville, how long
• 34:35
  Speaker 9: he hadn't been there, or maybe he wasn't Ivans, but
• 34:38
  Speaker 9: he has the children right now.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know that he should have the children. Did
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: he not notice two of his children, at least two
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: of them, or being slowly starved and tortured near death?
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, when neighbors noticed the child is starved and
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: covered in dut tape on their extremities.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Where was the dad during all this? He didn't know
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: what's going on?
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: And apparently this has been going on for some time
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: at least since the little girl with six guys take
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: a listen to our cup thirty.
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: Carturing him stopping.
• 35:11
  Speaker 17: I know you're not, but it looks like you are.
• 35:18
  Speaker 19: I'm only gonna say it one more time and then
• 35:20
  Speaker 19: you're gonna.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Lose the privilege to eat dinner. Okay. I hear the laughter.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, but I also hear
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you're gonna lose the privilege of eating dinner.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I hear Ruby Frankie.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Saying that what makes her any different from all the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: other abusive parents? Hair and makeup? Two hours of hair
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and makeup before she gets in front of the camera.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: To Jason Jensen joining US high profile private investigator out
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: of Utah located in Salt Lake City, Jason Jensen, how
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: are we gonna go about proving this case?
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: Well, I think you hit most of it on the head.
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: And basically we have to show that there's a pattern
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: a history between the actor, the abuser and her victim children.
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: And we have that pretty well established from some of
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: the outtakes of the YouTube channel, things that have been
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: brought up by fellow viewers and that we've discussed here
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: during the program. There's a history of this type of
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: neglect and abuse against these two particular children that have
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: been slowly brewing over time, where it was perhaps determined
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: to be minor, not enough to remove the children from
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: the home before, but now we're so severe that they're
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: being bound in duct tape like you know abductees, and
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: they're not even allowed to you know, venture forth from
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: the house, and every time that they get in trouble
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: food is taken away as a punishment.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: We also we're learning that one of Ruby Frankie's other
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: daughters says her mother was reported to police years before.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: For abuse and nothing was done. And sisters of Frankie.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Three sisters have also released statements admitting that they quote
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: kept quiet on the subject.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: What in the hay is that doctor Dana Anderson.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: That the family knows, but they choose to remain quiet
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: and let the children continue to starve and be tied
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: up and bound.
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 37:42
  Speaker 10: I can't say the extent of what the family knew,
• 37:45
  Speaker 10: but they certainly had some information, and I think it's
• 37:50
  Speaker 10: interesting that they've quickly made statements to the public stating
• 37:55
  Speaker 10: what side they're on. And I wonder if what the
• 37:59
  Speaker 10: phone on would show of them attempting to reach out
• 38:03
  Speaker 10: or call CPS.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: So the police, because they've issued a statement and I'm
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: quoting them. We quote kept quiet on the subject. Now
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: the daughter Sherry has something to say. Take a listen
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: to our cut twenty box thirteen.
• 38:23
  Speaker 12: Frank's oldest daughter, Sherry Frank, who is twenty years old,
• 38:25
  Speaker 12: posted to her public Instagram today a photo of police
• 38:28
  Speaker 12: with the caption. Finally, she added another story, saying, me
• 38:32
  Speaker 12: and my family are so glad justice is being served.
• 38:35
  Speaker 12: We've been trying to tell the police and CPS for
• 38:38
  Speaker 12: years about this and so glad they finally decided to
• 38:40
  Speaker 12: step up. Kids are safe, but there's a long road ahead.
• 38:43
  Speaker 12: Please keep them in your prayers and also respect their privacy.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: The sisters, who are also YouTubers stay this is their quote.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: For the last three years, we have kept quiet on
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: the subject of our sister Ruby Frankie for the sake
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: of her children, behind the public saying We've on everything
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: we could to try and make sure the kids were safe.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Really because they weren't. The three sisters.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: They were starving, they were being bound by ropes and
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: duct tape, and what if anything did.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: You do about it? Sounds like nothing.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Because I have a very strong suspicion that if they
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: had called Defects Department, Family Children's Services, CPS, CHOP Protective Services,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: and some jurisdictions, that there would have been a response.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Would you agree, Donna.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: Kelly, Oh, absolutely absolutely. In this case, I am very
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: encouraged by a couple of things, and those are that
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: a lot of the evidence is going to be admissible
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: without the children even having to testify about some of
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: these things. Because when this little boy ran to the
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: neighbor for help, you know, they have observations. And also
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: anything that he told them will be admissible. Anything that
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: he told and the little girl told to the medical
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: personnel will be admissible at trial. So at the very least,
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: this case has a very strong cooperation going forward, and
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: I'm very encouraged by that.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Guys, there's another person arrested. Take a list nowur cut
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: eighteen Fox thirteen.
• 40:21
  Speaker 12: Eight passengers was taken down earlier this year, and that's
• 40:24
  Speaker 12: when Frankie partnered with Jody Hildebrandt, a licensed therapist, in
• 40:27
  Speaker 12: a channel called Connections where they gave parenting and life advice.
• 40:31
  Speaker 12: Here they are pictured in Hildebrandt's home, the same place
• 40:35
  Speaker 12: Frankie's son escaped from and where her daughter was found
• 40:38
  Speaker 12: being held captive in the basement.
• 40:40
  Speaker 13: It's heartbreaking, and I think it's heartbreaking for the community
• 40:45
  Speaker 13: that watched this family.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Knew that something was wrong.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: So people watched the family and knew something was wrong
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: and did nothing. Now I want you to hear more
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: of what the sisters said. We went and feel right
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: about moving forward with regular content without addressing the most
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: recent events, their sister getting arrested and her friend Jody Hildebrant.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: But they say, once we do, we will not be
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: commenting on it further. Ruby was arrested, which needed to happen.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Jody was arrested, which needed to happen. The kids are
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: now safe, which is number one priority, Really the number
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: one priority. You say you've remained silent for three years.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Why did you stand by and let this happen to
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: these children? As we close, our prayers are sincere and
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: genuine prayers for the children of Ruby Frankie, that they
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: can heal and go on to live happy lives. Goodbye friend.