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- 0:24Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark. That's Chuck Bryant. Let's get back to
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- 1:37Speaker 1: out the door? It's way off the door, buddy, Okay,
- 1:40Speaker 1: you see it, yes, leaving Chuck, Josh. Have you ever
- 1:45Speaker 1: met a Viking? Uh? No, I haven't. Well, you know
- 1:51Speaker 1: the football team, right, Minnesota Vikings. Yeah, I've seen them.
- 1:54Speaker 1: You can tell their helmet a mile away because they
- 1:56Speaker 1: have those horns on the side, which are very Viking.
- 1:59Speaker 1: Se No, not true, Yes it is. Uh. It turns
- 2:04Speaker 1: out a bunch of archaeologists were um digging around, uh,
- 2:08Speaker 1: the north, the Nordic area Scandinavia, which includes what Sweden, Denmark,
- 2:16Speaker 1: the Netherlands and yeah I think Finland, sure, Norway too,
- 2:21Speaker 1: can you forget the Norwegians? Um And they found an
- 2:26Speaker 1: ancient helmet with some horns on it, and this was
- 2:30Speaker 1: before we had um reliable carbon dating technology and they said, well,
- 2:35Speaker 1: it's a Viking, but it turns out that it was
- 2:37Speaker 1: probably from the pre Viking era, right, Well that's when
- 2:43Speaker 1: it was popularized in the in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries.
- 2:46Speaker 1: You know, the the enormous woman would come out with
- 2:49Speaker 1: her bosom very prominent and uh, you know, a helmet
- 2:54Speaker 1: with with horns or wings. And it turns out they
- 2:57Speaker 1: wouldn't have worn this because these guys were or dedicated
- 3:02Speaker 1: to battling as efficiently and as brutally as any group
- 3:07Speaker 1: that's ever sprung up on the global map. Yes, they
- 3:11Speaker 1: were very good at what they do. And I just
- 3:13Speaker 1: want to point out this is a listener request, a
- 3:16Speaker 1: very recent one actually that piqued our interest, and this
- 3:19Speaker 1: is from David d from Waterloo. He said, can you
- 3:22Speaker 1: do something on vikings since you've covered Ninja and um,
- 3:25Speaker 1: what else did we cover? Pirates? He said, I hear vikings.
- 3:28Speaker 1: You stuff warriors called berserkers who would eat magic mushrooms
- 3:32Speaker 1: before sending them into battle. And uh, we're going to
- 3:34Speaker 1: talk about that, so stay tuned. It's a teaser. So
- 3:37Speaker 1: chuck there there does seem to be a lot of
- 3:39Speaker 1: um misconception around vikings. But one of the things I
- 3:43Speaker 1: took from this article by the Grabs their a Grabanowski
- 3:47Speaker 1: he writes good stuff he does, um, was that there's
- 3:50Speaker 1: also a lot of accuracy in the history associated with
- 3:54Speaker 1: with Vikings, Like they were extremely brutal, they would indiscriminately
- 3:59Speaker 1: kill men, women, children. Um. So let's let's peel this apart.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Let's separate fact from fiction as it were. Right, Yes,
- 4:07Speaker 1: when were they around? H josh? The Vikings were prominent
- 4:13Speaker 1: in uh Europe in the ninth through the eleven centuries,
- 4:17Speaker 1: commonly known as the Age of the Viking. Right, and Um,
- 4:21Speaker 1: you tend to think of Vikings as Nordic. They were
- 4:24Speaker 1: sure they were from Scandinavia, which are the countries we
- 4:27Speaker 1: listed off earlier. But this These weren't communities of Vikings.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Vikings were like a job. Yeah, it was a profession, basically,
- 4:38Speaker 1: a you were a professional conqueror. Yeah, because Scandinavians are
- 4:42Speaker 1: also farmers and um did many other things weavers, and uh,
- 4:47Speaker 1: they weren't just Vikings. It's not interchangeable. Viking and Scandinavians
- 4:51Speaker 1: not interchangeable. Weaving has never really been a lucrative job.
- 4:54Speaker 1: You know, it's not not even back then. But yeah,
- 4:57Speaker 1: so there was a group that that were dedicated to
- 5:00Speaker 1: moving out of the North Lamb downward into Europe. Yeah,
- 5:04Speaker 1: because Scandinavia it wasn't a very hospitable place. I imagine
- 5:08Speaker 1: it still isn't, you know. Lots of ice, lots of
- 5:10Speaker 1: winter snow, not that much land, and the land that
- 5:14Speaker 1: is available isn't all arable. So yeah, they went and
- 5:18Speaker 1: took it, you know, like broadwater. Uh. There was also
- 5:23Speaker 1: evidence that population pressure led to Viking plundering, yeah, because
- 5:29Speaker 1: they started to grow and then obviously as they grew,
- 5:31Speaker 1: they needed more things. And this is before they started
- 5:35Speaker 1: spreading out, because eventually they would do that, but at
- 5:37Speaker 1: first they would just go plunder and then return home
- 5:41Speaker 1: to Viking land Scandinavia. You said that they were around
- 5:45Speaker 1: from the ninth of the eleventh centuries, right, So there
- 5:47Speaker 1: were Scandinavian cultures before the ninth century. There were Scandinavian
- 5:53Speaker 1: cultures after the ninth century, so two years basically, um,
- 5:57Speaker 1: this population explosion forced this group out to go get
- 6:01Speaker 1: more resources, to more conquering, to conquer more land, and
- 6:05Speaker 1: then the end point at the eleventh century actually generally
- 6:09Speaker 1: represents the adoption of Christianity. The Vikings did readily. Yeah
- 6:14Speaker 1: once you once you converts, like, you can't plunder any longer,
- 6:18Speaker 1: at least not you know, only plundering in the name
- 6:20Speaker 1: of God. And Vikings were were pagans pre pre Christianity, right,
- 6:27Speaker 1: and which also means that they worshiped the pantheon of gods.
- 6:30Speaker 1: There Um, their religion was actually highly personalized. There was
- 6:34Speaker 1: no central church in any of the Scandinavian cultures and
- 6:38Speaker 1: their their religion was actually highly personal Uh. It evolved
- 6:44Speaker 1: in relative isolation without a central church and any of
- 6:47Speaker 1: these Scandinavian cultures. Um, but there was a a pantheon
- 6:52Speaker 1: of gods that were recognizable across these cultures generally, right,
- 6:58Speaker 1: two groups should we talk about them real quick? Yeah, Uh,
- 7:01Speaker 1: the s and the Veneer were the two groups of gods,
- 7:04Speaker 1: and the scre were very warlike. That's Odin and Thor,
- 7:09Speaker 1: and then the Assir were kind of like hippies like
- 7:11Speaker 1: fertility goddesses and gods. Uh. They lived. The gods lived
- 7:15Speaker 1: in Asgard and it was a kingdom connected to mortal
- 7:19Speaker 1: Earth by a rainbow bridge, which I didn't know which
- 7:22Speaker 1: is you think Okay, so um, Scandinavian pre Christian pagan
- 7:28Speaker 1: religion is pretty sweet. They've got hippies, they have rainbow bridges.
- 7:32Speaker 1: They had evil giants and dark elves. Yeah, here's where
- 7:35Speaker 1: it gets dark dwarves. And apparently the gods were destined
- 7:38Speaker 1: to fight against these giants and evil forces in a
- 7:41Speaker 1: battle known as Ragnarok. Right, and they were also predicted
- 7:46Speaker 1: to lose, which would plunge uh Mortal Earth and uh
- 7:51Speaker 1: Asgard into chaos, darkness, disorder, which I mean to think
- 7:56Speaker 1: about that, chuck. All of our religions today are pretty hopeful, Like,
- 8:01Speaker 1: even if there isn't into the world, if you adhere
- 8:04Speaker 1: to that religion, you're gonna be saved. You won't be
- 8:06Speaker 1: around for like the torment. Right, this this religion as
- 8:11Speaker 1: loose as it was predicted, Like, no, our gods are
- 8:14Speaker 1: gonna lose and we're all gonna be in really big trouble. Right.
- 8:17Speaker 1: But if you were a noble, awesome warrior and you
- 8:22Speaker 1: died in battle, you would go to Valhalla, which was
- 8:25Speaker 1: warrior heaven, and you would be transported there by the Vulkyrie,
- 8:29Speaker 1: which were little warrior angels at the command of Robert
- 8:33Speaker 1: Duval right, and uh, what happened was in heaven you
- 8:37Speaker 1: would fight alongside Odin and feast and die in battle
- 8:41Speaker 1: every day, and you would get up alive the next
- 8:44Speaker 1: day and do it all over again. Right, that's their
- 8:45Speaker 1: idea of heaven. It was who was pretty funny. Yeah,
- 8:48Speaker 1: so them that that battle part is really significant because, um,
- 8:53Speaker 1: in Scandinavia and many of the Scandinavian cultures, a young
- 8:56Speaker 1: man proved himself by going, I Viking. Yeah that I'm
- 9:00Speaker 1: gonna get a T shirt made it says I Viking.
- 9:02Speaker 1: And just see how many people know what that means.
- 9:03Speaker 1: That's like the verb of what Vikings did, leaving your homeland,
- 9:08Speaker 1: going down, butchering, raping, pillaging, studying, churches on fire. Churches
- 9:14Speaker 1: are actually a big target of their's because the churches
- 9:17Speaker 1: are where most of the gold was stored, livestock, spices, jewels, whatever, um.
- 9:22Speaker 1: So they would target churches and and kill everybody or
- 9:27Speaker 1: else they would take them as thralls slaves, which I
- 9:30Speaker 1: looked up the etymology of enthrall. Then that's where it
- 9:33Speaker 1: comes from. So when you're telling somebody you're enthralled by them,
- 9:36Speaker 1: you're saying that you're enslaved by their by how interesting
- 9:40Speaker 1: they are interesting. And you know that Actually all the
- 9:46Speaker 1: church thing is kind of key too, because that's how
- 9:47Speaker 1: the that's like, the only written history about the Vikings
- 9:51Speaker 1: where it was was written by the hand of the
- 9:54Speaker 1: church that was plundered. So that's one reason. Because the
- 9:57Speaker 1: Vikings only told oral orald stories folklore, right, but scrawls,
- 10:02Speaker 1: scrawls which told saga's it's where all these words come from.
- 10:06Speaker 1: And uh, but the church was the ones who actually
- 10:08Speaker 1: wrote down stuff. So that's why a lot of the
- 10:10Speaker 1: written history of the Vikings is so brutal, because they
- 10:13Speaker 1: were the people that were just you know, had someone
- 10:16Speaker 1: went I Viking on them, right, chuck. And they also
- 10:18Speaker 1: attribute the word Viking to um Europeans who were conquered. Yeah,
- 10:24Speaker 1: I mean there are a lot of different uh theories
- 10:26Speaker 1: there on the word. There are most of them. Do um.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Either the Norse adopted a word that was that they
- 10:34Speaker 1: were called by the Europeans like um uh, an old
- 10:39Speaker 1: English word vic w i c means port port of
- 10:43Speaker 1: trade um, which is where the Vikings like to attack.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Another theory is that it came from the Norse word
- 10:50Speaker 1: vic big different, but this one's v I k meaning
- 10:54Speaker 1: bay or body of water. Or there's another word that
- 10:58Speaker 1: sounds similar that means to turn away or to leave
- 11:01Speaker 1: on a journey, which is as we said, what going.
- 11:04Speaker 1: I Viking began with um. And then there's the last one,
- 11:08Speaker 1: which makes a lot of sense, is called um. It's
- 11:11Speaker 1: an old Norse word called viking or which means pirate.
- 11:14Speaker 1: That's that's my guess, right, But they think that they
- 11:17Speaker 1: picked that up from the Europeans they conquered. So either way,
- 11:21Speaker 1: these people were written about by Europeans, they were named
- 11:24Speaker 1: by Europeans. They were just going to get some food
- 11:26Speaker 1: and gold cheap. Yes, how they do this though? Should
- 11:32Speaker 1: we talk about that? Yeah, I Viking. Yeah, they were
- 11:37Speaker 1: famous for being experienced seamen. They were built awesome boats
- 11:42Speaker 1: and built boats that traveled really fast through the water.
- 11:46Speaker 1: So when the when the Christian uh you know, let's
- 11:49Speaker 1: say a monastery would see the Viking ships approaching and
- 11:52Speaker 1: dragon ships, yeah, dragon boats, they didn't have much time
- 11:55Speaker 1: because they would get there really really fast because they
- 11:57Speaker 1: were very experienced fishermen. And uh, I guess since we're
- 12:00Speaker 1: on the boats, we we should talk about that for
- 12:02Speaker 1: a second. Yeah, they had pretty particular boats as Um,
- 12:06Speaker 1: you know, I think anybody could pick one out. They
- 12:08Speaker 1: had a double sided hole, which I thought was pretty
- 12:11Speaker 1: cool because you can go forward or backward without having
- 12:13Speaker 1: to turn around. You just pick up your butt and
- 12:16Speaker 1: turn around and start rowing the other way right, or
- 12:18Speaker 1: just switch the sail around. Um. They had a keel,
- 12:22Speaker 1: They had riveted wood construction. Um. And then they had
- 12:25Speaker 1: a single mask, and this mask could be as much
- 12:27Speaker 1: as um or the the sail that that was attached
- 12:31Speaker 1: to the mass could be like three thirty square feet
- 12:34Speaker 1: of double sided wool, all hands sewn, usually painted red
- 12:38Speaker 1: to symbolize the blood that was about to be spilled
- 12:41Speaker 1: by the people who saw it approaching. UM. And then
- 12:44Speaker 1: you see pictures of Viking ships with like the little
- 12:47Speaker 1: circles along the side. Yeah, that's actually accurate. Um. Most
- 12:50Speaker 1: Viking ships had mounts where somebody could put their shield
- 12:54Speaker 1: up as extra protection to to protect the guys who
- 12:57Speaker 1: were rowing. Of course makes good sense. Took about a
- 13:00Speaker 1: seventy ft Viking long ship. Josh would have required about
- 13:04Speaker 1: eleven trees to make it about three ft in diameter each,
- 13:08Speaker 1: and then one really tall tree to make the keel.
- 13:10Speaker 1: So I guess it was all one piece. Yeah, and
- 13:13Speaker 1: these things could haul but through the water apparently because
- 13:15Speaker 1: they're real narrow and they used wind power and manpower.
- 13:21Speaker 1: Viking manpower was that was something. So what happened when
- 13:25Speaker 1: you saw a dragon boat chuck? You saw a dragon
- 13:28Speaker 1: boat docks and all of a sudden, this horde of
- 13:32Speaker 1: Vikings just comes streaming off at you. You poop your
- 13:35Speaker 1: pants the first thing you do. I would have rolled
- 13:38Speaker 1: around the ground crying like a baby and offering up
- 13:41Speaker 1: my cattle to be spared. But you might not be spared.
- 13:44Speaker 1: They generally would not leave much. Anything woulden was burned.
- 13:48Speaker 1: They would just burn the town to the ground. Kill people,
- 13:51Speaker 1: take women if they wanted, or kill them, take children
- 13:54Speaker 1: if they wanted, or kill them. Take the cattle. Probably
- 13:58Speaker 1: wouldn't kill the cattle now they wanted the cattle. They
- 13:59Speaker 1: were more useful in humans generally. Um. And you would
- 14:03Speaker 1: also see these guys coming at you with the acts, which,
- 14:05Speaker 1: as everybody knows, is my weapon of choice for a
- 14:08Speaker 1: zombie apocalypse. Right, you would go I Viking on zombies, sure,
- 14:12Speaker 1: and Josh. As far as their battle gear, like you said,
- 14:14Speaker 1: the sword was huge. The swords are about as long
- 14:19Speaker 1: as the uh as a man's arm, right. They also
- 14:22Speaker 1: had bows and lances and javelins. Uh, And they wore
- 14:26Speaker 1: like you would think, they wore big heavy iron helmets
- 14:30Speaker 1: with a little nosepiece that came down a lot of
- 14:32Speaker 1: times they wore iron on their breastplate unless they had
- 14:36Speaker 1: some dough and they could afford chain mail. But this
- 14:39Speaker 1: kind of indicates how strong these dudes were. Do you
- 14:41Speaker 1: know what, Like an iron Viking helmet would weigh a
- 14:44Speaker 1: lot a lot and actually Vikings, well not Vikings, but
- 14:47Speaker 1: skin Navians, I should say. Skin Navian cultures were really
- 14:51Speaker 1: really adept at doing whatever they wanted to do with
- 14:54Speaker 1: iron because they've been pulling it from bogs um very
- 14:58Speaker 1: easily without any need for mining for many, many centuries.
- 15:02Speaker 1: So they were kind of ahead of the curve as
- 15:04Speaker 1: far as the iron age goes. And chuck. When these
- 15:08Speaker 1: guys died, let's say you were a Viking, had had
- 15:11Speaker 1: some successful raids, garnered some powers, some money. The concept
- 15:17Speaker 1: of a Viking funeral, you know, being put on a
- 15:21Speaker 1: ship instead of fire a fire and pushed out to see,
- 15:24Speaker 1: that's actually accurate. Yeah, that's one way they did it.
- 15:27Speaker 1: They also, Yeah, the other way would be that they
- 15:29Speaker 1: entombed you in uh an earthen barrow, which is like
- 15:32Speaker 1: a mound. It was called mounting. Right. The thing is,
- 15:36Speaker 1: if you were a thrall, let's say you have been
- 15:38Speaker 1: captured in battle and taken back to Scandinavia, and you
- 15:41Speaker 1: were a servant to this guy, especially particularly useful servant,
- 15:47Speaker 1: you would probably be murdered and entombed in the thrall
- 15:50Speaker 1: or the barrow. Yeah. The deal there was they believed
- 15:53Speaker 1: in a life after death. Um. Whether it was like
- 15:56Speaker 1: an eternal life, didn't really know, or just like a
- 15:58Speaker 1: temporary life until you get to your old life. But
- 16:00Speaker 1: they definitely believed that you did not just die. So
- 16:04Speaker 1: that's why they would send you along with maybe your
- 16:06Speaker 1: favorite slave or your possessions. They would your cat, they
- 16:09Speaker 1: would bury you with your clothes on, and maybe with
- 16:12Speaker 1: your your acts, and they would send you along with
- 16:15Speaker 1: these things that they think you would need in the
- 16:16Speaker 1: following life to go I Viking. Uh. You know there
- 16:21Speaker 1: was another a stratified class almost um in Viking warrior culture. UM.
- 16:29Speaker 1: And there was this little subgroup that the guy who
- 16:32Speaker 1: called for this podcast mentioned berserkers. So these guys I
- 16:37Speaker 1: want to talk about berserkers yeah, if you've seen the
- 16:40Speaker 1: movie Clerks. Did you see Clerks? Yeah? Remember uh Silent
- 16:45Speaker 1: Bob's cousin Olaf from my Russia. He sang a medal.
- 16:50Speaker 1: He was in a Russian metal band he had. It's
- 16:51Speaker 1: long called Bezerka. I don't remember that. That was the
- 16:54Speaker 1: first time I heard Berserker And wait, we can't say
- 16:56Speaker 1: the lyrics because they're really filthy, but it was funny. Well,
- 17:00Speaker 1: what he was talking about where this this group of
- 17:02Speaker 1: warriors that were they think that they grew out of
- 17:06Speaker 1: a bear cult, like these people worship bears. They were nuts.
- 17:09Speaker 1: They during battle especially, they would go nuts. They would um.
- 17:14Speaker 1: It was told in the Sagas that they would take
- 17:16Speaker 1: on they would either become a bear or a bowl
- 17:19Speaker 1: for something like that. They would shape ship or else
- 17:21Speaker 1: they would take on the qualities of a bear like.
- 17:24Speaker 1: They would go into battle naked or shirtless, or at
- 17:27Speaker 1: the very least armorless. They would cut five people's heads
- 17:31Speaker 1: off at once with one swing of an axe. They
- 17:33Speaker 1: couldn't feel pain. Supposedly, they would scream a lot. Their
- 17:36Speaker 1: eyes were kind of glazed over. Part of the problem
- 17:38Speaker 1: was is they would get into such a um war frenzy,
- 17:42Speaker 1: a battle frenzy that if you were near them, even
- 17:45Speaker 1: if you were on their side, they'd kill you just
- 17:47Speaker 1: as soon as they would kill somebody else. And as
- 17:51Speaker 1: the guy said, they do think that, um, this bear
- 17:53Speaker 1: colt that went berserk, the berserkers um were on mushrooms
- 17:59Speaker 1: during battle. That may be the case. Can you that?
- 18:03Speaker 1: So you would take this regular already super badass warrior
- 18:08Speaker 1: viking then jack him up on magic mushrooms and give
- 18:12Speaker 1: him an ax, give him an ax and tell him
- 18:14Speaker 1: to like take his clothes off and wear like a
- 18:16Speaker 1: bear skin. And uh, it was That was it. It
- 18:19Speaker 1: was all over. I've read a little bit more about them,
- 18:21Speaker 1: and what's weird is the same guys. They also think
- 18:24Speaker 1: it's possible that this cult was largely made up with
- 18:27Speaker 1: them mentally ill, right or else maybe a little slow? Yeah, Um,
- 18:33Speaker 1: these same guys would also go berserk during like physical
- 18:36Speaker 1: labor sometimes too. You just didn't want to hang out
- 18:40Speaker 1: with the berserkers, basically you wanted to be in battle
- 18:43Speaker 1: with them. But like fifty meters to the left or
- 18:46Speaker 1: the right, nowhere near him, I would go in way
- 18:49Speaker 1: behind there. I would drag up the rear behind the
- 18:50Speaker 1: berserk also saw another theory that um, they weren't in
- 18:55Speaker 1: fact on magic mushrooms, but they uh drank heavily and
- 19:00Speaker 1: got wasted basically on mead before battle too. Huh. Wouldn't
- 19:04Speaker 1: that slow you down? Though? Um, I would think so,
- 19:07Speaker 1: but it would also kind of make you somewhat impervious
- 19:09Speaker 1: to pain and not care as much. And yeah, I've
- 19:12Speaker 1: gone berserka on a Friday night. Yeah, yeah, I subscribed
- 19:16Speaker 1: to the mushroom theory for two reasons. One, it's awesome
- 19:19Speaker 1: to uh. Ritual use of mushrooms in certain Scandinavian cults
- 19:25Speaker 1: is known for a fact, so it's entirely possible. These guys,
- 19:27Speaker 1: all right, we're Truman, So David d from Waterloo. That's
- 19:31Speaker 1: what initially piqued my interest, and that's why we did
- 19:33Speaker 1: this podcast. So Josh says, yes, okay, uh, chuck, these
- 19:38Speaker 1: guys weren't all berserk, right, No, the the Vikings and
- 19:43Speaker 1: the Scandinavian cultures they came from actually were pretty good
- 19:48Speaker 1: at democracy. Yeah. Supposedly, the the the common farmer would
- 19:53Speaker 1: have just as much say in matters Viking as as
- 19:57Speaker 1: the higher ups. Right, they had um assemblies. I don't
- 20:01Speaker 1: know if they were annual or more frequent, but they
- 20:03Speaker 1: had scheduled assemblies where everybody got together talked about matters
- 20:07Speaker 1: of the day, divided land. Um. And they called them
- 20:11Speaker 1: things because I think they just couldn't think of the
- 20:13Speaker 1: word at the time, right, Maybe they were a little slow.
- 20:16Speaker 1: And there was a guy. I love this part. There
- 20:18Speaker 1: was a guy who was in charge of running the meetings.
- 20:20Speaker 1: He was an impartial judge and they called him the lawmaker,
- 20:24Speaker 1: So he was the lawmaker of the thing. Pretty generic stuff,
- 20:28Speaker 1: primitive democracy, you could call it. Um. And they actually
- 20:32Speaker 1: extended this downward to the lands that they conquered. Um.
- 20:36Speaker 1: These guys made it a lot further south than I realized.
- 20:40Speaker 1: Did you know all this? And now I didn't as
- 20:42Speaker 1: far as going through Europe? Yeah, Um, they the Vikings
- 20:46Speaker 1: um conquered a town called Ulster. A Danish Viking did
- 20:51Speaker 1: an eight thirty nine and crowned himself king, and um
- 20:55Speaker 1: founded what is now the town of Dublin. Did you
- 20:58Speaker 1: know that? I did not know that until I read this. Uh.
- 21:00Speaker 1: They said they actually laid siege to Paris at some point.
- 21:03Speaker 1: They controlled part of England half of England from the
- 21:07Speaker 1: late nineteenth century to the eleventh century Danish Vikings, and
- 21:10Speaker 1: they struck a deal with France with Frederick the Simple Charles, Charles,
- 21:15Speaker 1: Charles is simple. You don't want your king to be
- 21:17Speaker 1: called the simple, No, especially when the Viking leader was
- 21:20Speaker 1: named Rolo. So they were causing a lot of problems
- 21:24Speaker 1: with the Franks. And so Charles the Simple, poor thing
- 21:27Speaker 1: sat down with Raloh and struck a deal and said, hey, um,
- 21:32Speaker 1: why don't you guys leave us alone and convert to
- 21:34Speaker 1: Christianity and I'll give you Normandy And they said okay,
- 21:38Speaker 1: said and uh, Frederick the Simple went that was easy.
- 21:41Speaker 1: Charles is simple. Yeah, he's a simple guy. Yeah. Um.
- 21:46Speaker 1: And like we said, the Vikings were they readily converted
- 21:49Speaker 1: to Christianity. These lands that they conquered and held um
- 21:53Speaker 1: for centuries, and they especially in Ireland and England. The
- 22:00Speaker 1: the Celts and the Anglo Saxons would defeat the Vikings,
- 22:03Speaker 1: and then more Vikings would come in and defeat whoever.
- 22:06Speaker 1: So it changed hands pretty much constantly. But through this interaction,
- 22:10Speaker 1: even though it was fighting, Vikings eventually became absorbed into
- 22:14Speaker 1: these local areas. They brought their customs, but took on
- 22:18Speaker 1: new customs, and the the whole milange or the whole
- 22:22Speaker 1: area of Ireland, England, France. Um is a milange actually
- 22:27Speaker 1: of Nordic culture and Southern European culture. I learned a
- 22:33Speaker 1: lot with this one. And they actually had trading routes
- 22:35Speaker 1: all the way down in North Africa. They did. And Chuck,
- 22:39Speaker 1: we've talked about this before. You know that they settled
- 22:42Speaker 1: North America. Of Eric the Red. He was exiled for murder.
- 22:49Speaker 1: This is another thing that they probably did it the
- 22:51Speaker 1: things they tried people. Uh, Eric the Red was accused
- 22:54Speaker 1: of murder. He was convicted, so they exiled him. He
- 22:57Speaker 1: took a bunch of guys with them and went from
- 23:00Speaker 1: Sland over to Greenland. His son was born there, Leif Ericson,
- 23:04Speaker 1: son of Eric, Right, and he said, you know, I'm
- 23:06Speaker 1: going to travel even further west and he ended up
- 23:08Speaker 1: in Newfoundland. This is just part of the oral tradition
- 23:11Speaker 1: until the nineteen sixties when an archaeologist discovered the traces
- 23:17Speaker 1: of this um of Leif Ericson's Viking settlement in Newfoundland.
- 23:21Speaker 1: He found a horned helmet, right, He's like, oh, it's
- 23:24Speaker 1: a Viking of course. So yeah, they were all over
- 23:26Speaker 1: the place. Yes, And if they sound like all they
- 23:30Speaker 1: did was rape and pillage and plunder. They did a
- 23:33Speaker 1: lot of that, but not so much anymore than anyone
- 23:35Speaker 1: else at the time. That was just kind of the
- 23:37Speaker 1: action of the time. But they were just so much
- 23:40Speaker 1: better at it than anyone else. They got this rep.
- 23:43Speaker 1: But they also, Josh had entertainment. Did you know that?
- 23:46Speaker 1: I did not check layd on me. They did. They socialized,
- 23:49Speaker 1: and when they socialized, they it was generally competitions because
- 23:53Speaker 1: they were clearly big on competing. There was cutting, so
- 23:57Speaker 1: they would compete in friendly games like running and wrestling
- 24:00Speaker 1: and horseback riding. Uh. They had acrobats and entertainers, poem
- 24:05Speaker 1: tellers and tall tale tellers. And they actually ice skated.
- 24:10Speaker 1: What they did they made ice skates out of animal
- 24:13Speaker 1: bones and played a game on the ice skates, similar
- 24:17Speaker 1: to hurling, which I looked at hurling hurling. Hurling is
- 24:21Speaker 1: sort of like the best I can say is, uh,
- 24:24Speaker 1: it looks sort of like a cross between rugby and
- 24:28Speaker 1: field hockey. I think it was on ice because you
- 24:32Speaker 1: had a stick and you're hitting a ball toward a net,
- 24:34Speaker 1: So maybe it was the first ice hockey. No, nothing
- 24:38Speaker 1: to do with hote. Uh. Yeah, so they were. They
- 24:43Speaker 1: were into all sorts of games. Actually had a game
- 24:45Speaker 1: called Kinky Bat, which was like ping pong, except they
- 24:49Speaker 1: used shields. I wanted. So they would use a shield
- 24:52Speaker 1: to hit like a ball back and forth over. I
- 24:54Speaker 1: don't know if it was a net or just back
- 24:55Speaker 1: and forth on some surface, but they potentially invented ice
- 25:00Speaker 1: hockey and ping pong. Wow, how about that? That is something.
- 25:03Speaker 1: Speaking of Viking culture, Chuck um Vikings made it into
- 25:07Speaker 1: our culture popular culture big time, quite a bit. Obviously
- 25:10Speaker 1: The You Got Thor, the Marvel superhero, one of my
- 25:14Speaker 1: favorites of all time, soon to be a movie next year. Yeah,
- 25:17Speaker 1: made at least one appearance in um Adventures in Babysitting.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Oh I didn't see that movie. He played the mechanic.
- 25:25Speaker 1: Oh really very interesting. Uh yeah, Kenneth Brandon was making
- 25:29Speaker 1: that movie. Um, Anthony Hopkins plays Odin and some Australian
- 25:33Speaker 1: guy plays Stor. He didn't look very thory though. When
- 25:35Speaker 1: I looked at the pictures, I'm sure they're going to
- 25:37Speaker 1: deck him out and give him long blonde hair. Oh. Actually,
- 25:40Speaker 1: I meant to mention that apparently some of them used
- 25:42Speaker 1: to um bleach their hair. Blond because I guess it
- 25:46Speaker 1: was more intimidating, so that that is not a myth.
- 25:49Speaker 1: So where else popular culture led Zeppelin? Can we we
- 25:52Speaker 1: can't not talk about led Zeppelin? Go ahead, Well, anyone's
- 25:55Speaker 1: ever seen song remains the same obviously, or listened to
- 25:57Speaker 1: some Zeppelin songs knows that they were big on aside
- 26:01Speaker 1: from Lord of the Rings, Valhalla, Vulkyrie, that kind of thing,
- 26:06Speaker 1: Hammer the Gods was the name of their biography. Uh
- 26:09Speaker 1: did you ever read that on crazy? Uh? And the
- 26:13Speaker 1: Immigrant Song is the most clear example after the famous Whale.
- 26:17Speaker 1: At the beginning, Um, you'll hear lyrics like we come
- 26:21Speaker 1: from the land of the ice and snow, from the
- 26:23Speaker 1: midnight sun, where the hot springs blow Hammer of the
- 26:26Speaker 1: Gods will drive our ships to land to fight the Horde,
- 26:29Speaker 1: singing cry Valhalla, I am coming. So I always thought
- 26:33Speaker 1: that song was about apple Chians. No, that is Vikings. Huh. Yeah,
- 26:37Speaker 1: Robert Plant was big into that and uh, Spike TV.
- 26:41Speaker 1: Have you heard of the show Deadliest Warriors? I have. Actually,
- 26:44Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. They picked like warriors against each other,
- 26:47Speaker 1: and the Vikings actually in their scenario lost to the Samurai.
- 26:51Speaker 1: I could see that barely though, these uh shallon monks samurais.
- 26:57Speaker 1: But I know they said the samurai UH wanted a
- 27:00Speaker 1: squeaker because they were a little bit more disciplined than
- 27:02Speaker 1: the the Crazy Eye Viking. I wonder if they took
- 27:06Speaker 1: mushrooms for that show. I don't know, and I think
- 27:09Speaker 1: that's it. Oh, actually I got one a couple of
- 27:11Speaker 1: more myths if you want to hear him. Vikings were
- 27:14Speaker 1: not dirty. They have the reputation of being dirty, filthy people.
- 27:18Speaker 1: They actually bathed once a week, which was a lot
- 27:21Speaker 1: for back then. Yeah, definitely, and they washed their face
- 27:24Speaker 1: every day apparently. So you were just saying before the podcast,
- 27:26Speaker 1: so you're the cleanest person that we know you were
- 27:30Speaker 1: the Vikings, I'm cleaner than a Vikings. Sure well sure.
- 27:33Speaker 1: And they did not drink from the skulls of the conquered.
- 27:36Speaker 1: That was a mistranslation apparently into Latin. And they they
- 27:41Speaker 1: apparently would drink mead from a horn occasionally as as
- 27:45Speaker 1: like a ritual, but ordinarily they would just drink from
- 27:48Speaker 1: a mug. That's it for the Vikings. Chuck for real,
- 27:52Speaker 1: nice additional research. Appreciate that, um and Uh. If you
- 27:57Speaker 1: want to learn a little more see some cool picks,
- 27:59Speaker 1: including some actual swords, which I thought was pretty cool.
- 28:03Speaker 1: What about you, Chuck loved it. You could type vikings
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- 28:08Speaker 1: which leads us to listener mail. Not quite yet, Josh,
- 28:12Speaker 1: you always do that. I'm teasing. Uh, actually, I'm not teasing.
- 28:16Speaker 1: We just want to plug. We did a little interview
- 28:18Speaker 1: with the dude named Wayne and Omaha, Nebraska. Yes, Worlds
- 28:22Speaker 1: of Wayne. Worlds of Wayne podcasts which he interviews artists
- 28:25Speaker 1: and musicians and cool people. So I don't know why
- 28:29Speaker 1: he called us, but he did. And uh, it's actually
- 28:32Speaker 1: already up. So if you want to hear a pretty
- 28:35Speaker 1: fun interview with us and go to Worlds of Wayne
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- 28:42Speaker 1: Josh said, you can just google Worlds of Wayne and
- 28:44Speaker 1: that's the first thing that comes up. It is, I've
- 28:46Speaker 1: done it. So apparently there's no store called Worlds of Wayne,
- 28:49Speaker 1: which is good, and it's episode one thirteen and you'll
- 28:52Speaker 1: see our big logo there and click on it. It's
- 28:54Speaker 1: kind of a cool, fun little interview. No listener mail, right, yes,
- 28:59Speaker 1: Okay to Josh, I'm gonna call this another list of
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