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Full Show Podcast: 24 October 2024 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new
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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
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Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture bands and a play at store news dogs.
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Speaker 2: That'd be good morning. It is six after five.
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Speaker 3: Great to have your company this morning before six o'clock.
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Speaker 2: The Auditor General's report.
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Speaker 3: Why do some poor kids achieve well at school and
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Speaker 3: others not? Property investors are sniffing around again? How many
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Speaker 3: of them are lurking? The US Correspondent today on Trump's fascism,
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Speaker 3: claims he's a fascist and apparently also said that he
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Speaker 3: wanted generals like Hitler had. Plus why would you be
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Speaker 3: a bus driver? After another stabbing on a bus, this
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Speaker 3: time resulting in a death in aucklandest today.
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Speaker 4: The agenda.
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Speaker 3: It is Thursday, the twenty fourth of October. The United
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Speaker 3: States Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin confirms that North Korean troops
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Speaker 3: are in Russia.
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Speaker 5: If there are coll Belliterans, their intention is to participate
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Speaker 5: in this war on Russia's behalf. That is a very
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Speaker 5: very serious issue. This is an indication that he may
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Speaker 5: be even in more trouble than most people realize.
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Speaker 3: As I mentioned yesterday, it might pull South Korea into
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Speaker 3: the conflict with Ukraine. They may be about to provide
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Speaker 3: some weapons. Gunfire and an explosion have been heard outside
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Speaker 3: the headquarters of an aerospace company.
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Speaker 2: This is in Turkey. Authorities say four.
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Speaker 3: People have been killed at least fourteen injured, labeling it
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Speaker 3: a terror attack. Turkey's Interior minister says two suspects have
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Speaker 3: been quote neutralized. Donald Trump's former chief of staff, John
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Speaker 3: Kelly says the former president said he needs the kind
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Speaker 3: of generals that Hitler had, adding that Trump has met
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Speaker 3: the definition of a fascist.
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Speaker 2: Timuls isn't happy about it.
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Speaker 6: Don't be the frog in the boiling white and think
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Speaker 6: this is okay.
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Speaker 4: As a twenty four year veteran of our military, that
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Speaker 4: makes me sick as hell, and it should make you sad.
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Speaker 2: Back to our neck of the woods.
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Speaker 3: King Charles has arrived in Sarmore for the Commonwealth Heads
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Speaker 3: and Government meeting following his trip to Ozzie. Prime Minister
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Speaker 3: Christopher Luxen and Foreign Minister Winston Peters are also in
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Speaker 3: RPA for the meeting, which is how every two years
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Speaker 3: are heading there today.
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Speaker 2: It's just gone eight after five.
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Speaker 4: Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge, you for twenty
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Speaker 4: twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
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Speaker 4: Furniture Beds and a playing Store.
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Speaker 3: News Talk said be Sarah says, Ryan, why are the
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Speaker 3: police not showing the CCTV footage of the Auckland bus
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Speaker 3: murderer's face to the public in order to help find him.
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Speaker 3: It's a very good question, Sarah, It's a very good question.
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Speaker 3: I don't have an answer for you. Nine nine the
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Speaker 3: number to text. Did you see the story yesterday? The
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Speaker 3: mother of the young person and who was leading the occupation,
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Speaker 3: if you will, of the rooftop. This is the standoff
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Speaker 3: at the ordering a tamidiki facility in Auckland. They were
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Speaker 3: protesting on the roof, ripping parts of it off. They
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Speaker 3: were up there for sixteen hours. According to a New
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Speaker 3: Zealand Herald photographer who was there, they were demanding McDonald's
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Speaker 3: cigarettes and a getaway car. Now you're the mother of
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Speaker 3: the leader of that group and you see this obviously unfolding.
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Speaker 3: I imagine you are concerned. You're horrified. This particular mother
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Speaker 3: picks up the phone and calls the Herald or emails
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Speaker 3: the hel gets in contact with the media. Told the
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Speaker 3: Herald the group was acting out as they had allegedly
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Speaker 3: been denied access to fresh air and outside time for
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Speaker 3: that day. Apparently they were given outside time over the
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Speaker 3: weekend and that day, according to ordering A Tamidiki, but
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Speaker 3: that doesn't stop the mother from continuing. The mother told
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Speaker 3: the he or she was advised that her son was
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Speaker 3: involved at about nine am via a phone call from
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Speaker 3: staff at the facility. She says, they couldn't really give
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Speaker 3: me a good enough reason as to why he was
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Speaker 3: on the roof in the first place. They just said
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Speaker 3: that they were trying to find out. She added the
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Speaker 3: facility should have been secure to prevent the breakout. I
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Speaker 3: was concerned about my son being up there the whole night.
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Speaker 3: That's not safe. What if something else had happened. I
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Speaker 3: just don't understand this. She then goes on to complain
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Speaker 3: that they were being taken to an adult facility, which
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Speaker 3: presumably would be more secure, but that wasn't good enough either.
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Speaker 3: I just don't understand this logic. First of all, ordering
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Speaker 3: it timodik He says, it's not true. You know there
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Speaker 3: was yard time for the kids, etc. But if your
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Speaker 3: child committed a crime and we're told that it's serious,
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Speaker 3: repeat offending that goes on and that's why these people
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Speaker 3: are here and then smash their way out of the facility.
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Speaker 3: Wouldn't you be a bit embarrassed about it? Wouldn't you
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Speaker 3: have words with the offender aka your son first before
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Speaker 3: calling a newsroom to complain about ordering a tamadiki?
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Speaker 2: Why is he there in the first place. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Maybe there is something I'm missing here, but I just
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Speaker 3: cannot understand.
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Speaker 2: How that is your response to a situation like that.
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Speaker 3: It's eleven minutes after five Ryan Bridge.
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Speaker 2: Lots want to come on the program.
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Speaker 3: Are you getting scammed?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 3: Ninety percent of us are New B and Z numbers
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Speaker 3: out on that. Is the grass really greener in Australia
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Speaker 3: when it comes to construction workers. We've got an answer
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Speaker 3: for you this morning. Plus Genesis is saying, if you
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Speaker 3: want coal next winter, gets your orders in.
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Speaker 2: People You're on Newstook ZB.
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Speaker 4: News and View as you trust to start your day
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Speaker 4: is early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
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Speaker 4: Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.
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Speaker 3: News Talk said be fourteen after five. News Talks b
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Speaker 3: reporting season continues as a quarter three in the United States,
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Speaker 3: Bowing obviously not doing very well. The food and drink
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Speaker 3: stocks are one to watch thus sliding. Starbucks is down.
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Speaker 3: They had some pretty lackluster results, apparently going to completely
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Speaker 3: revamp their menu because there's too much stuff on it.
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Speaker 3: Coca Cola their volume was down, prices were up, but
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Speaker 3: weak sales mean that they've taken a bit of a hit.
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Speaker 3: McDonald's though, shears and McDonald's fell five percent, which you
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Speaker 3: can imagine how many billions of dollars that must be
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Speaker 3: five percent. This after the Centers for Disease Control said
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Speaker 3: that their hamburgers. Some of the hamburgers were linked to
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Speaker 3: fatal E. Coli outbreaks with anyone like a fries with
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Speaker 3: your mcpheesisburger quarter.
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Speaker 2: Past five, Ryan Bridge.
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Speaker 3: Looks like investors are starting to return to the property mark.
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Speaker 3: This is a new core Logic report out this morning.
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Speaker 3: It finds that in September, mortgaged multiple property owners made
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Speaker 3: up twenty two point six percent of all sales. That's
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Speaker 3: up from a record lower year ago twenty point four.
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Speaker 3: Core Logic says investors are the group to watch coming
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Speaker 3: into the new year as interest rates continue to fall.
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Speaker 3: Matt Balls with the Property Investors Federation he's with us
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Speaker 3: this morning.
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Speaker 2: Matt, good morning, Good morning, Ryan. How are you we
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Speaker 2: do good? Thank you, thanks for being with me.
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Speaker 3: This is still low by historical standards, but early signs, yeah.
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Speaker 7: I think this is spot on. Actually we're noticing similar
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Speaker 7: signs as well. Your investors who have got cash, they
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Speaker 7: are going to be first off the block, and that's
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Speaker 7: the one that I've been watching first, and then mortgage
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Speaker 7: reliant investors will be on after that. I mean, that's
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Speaker 7: not to say people aren't out there now looking for bargains.
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Speaker 7: And some of our members are out there buying the
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Speaker 7: rundown properties, in them up and making good money out
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Speaker 7: of it. You know, you get a better return once
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Speaker 7: you've done up a property. You're providing a nice new
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Speaker 7: homes to people. So that's fantastic. And our investors, our
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Speaker 7: members tend to be probably slightly ahead of the market.
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Speaker 7: I would say they had access to good advice from
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Speaker 7: some of our older investors.
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Speaker 3: Who is investing. I'm not imagining that this will be
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Speaker 3: our mum and dad's with one extra property going out
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Speaker 3: in force at the moment. It's your older investors with
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Speaker 3: multiple freehold properties.
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Speaker 2: I would imagine.
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Speaker 7: What we're finding is that it's actually a mix ryme. Yes,
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Speaker 7: some of our older investors or more experienced investors are
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Speaker 7: cash too, don't rely on mortgages. Are out there and
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Speaker 7: they're looking for bargains. But I can give you of
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Speaker 7: an example of a member's a single income home family
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Speaker 7: and who has been out there brought a couple of
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Speaker 7: properties in the last twelve months. These are pretty rundown
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Speaker 7: of properties and they've done them up. They're now fantastic
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Speaker 7: rentals and they're making that person's an income. So your
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Speaker 7: bargains are out there if you're prepared to put in
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Speaker 7: the time and do the hard work. So person, I'm
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Speaker 7: thinking of that all the renovations themselves.
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Speaker 3: In terms of the interest deductibility at eighty percent, you
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Speaker 3: know the interest rate's coming down. What is the bigger factor.
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Speaker 3: It's probably interest rates, presumably rates lying rather than the
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Speaker 3: interest deductibility. They both help, Yeah, I look, they both help.
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Speaker 7: I think the interest deductibility gives people confidence. That's not
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Speaker 7: something that gives you a big pile of cash. You
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Speaker 7: don't actually see any money from that. It's just that
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Speaker 7: the government doesn't extract as much from you at the
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Speaker 7: end of the year. Interest rates going down yet that
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Speaker 7: is going to be a fact. But don't forget this
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Speaker 7: is a lagging impact. Most people aren't feeling that impact
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Speaker 7: straight away. Two thirds of mortgages are fixed but due
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Speaker 7: to roll off over the next twelve months. So it's
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Speaker 7: it's over that next month period that you're going to
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Speaker 7: start to see this impact. And so i'd say you'd
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Speaker 7: be looking at second half of twenty twenty five or
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Speaker 7: fourteen to will really start to pick up, right, Matt.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for that.
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Speaker 3: Matt Ball the Property Investors Federation talking about the Newcorelogic
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Speaker 3: data out this morning, saying property investors are slowly creeping
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Speaker 3: back into the market. I suppose everybody is really as
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Speaker 3: interest rates come down. Eighteen minutes after five News Talk hb.
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Speaker 4: Ryan Bridge new for twenty twenty four on early edition
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Speaker 4: with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a player
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Speaker 4: store News Talk Zibby.
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Speaker 2: Twenty after five News Talk ZB.
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Speaker 3: In the last twenty minutes, his biller has confirmed the
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Speaker 3: death of another of its top top brass This is
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Speaker 3: Hashim suffered In, one of the candidates possibly slated to
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Speaker 3: take charge of the group. This after the assassination of
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Speaker 3: Hassan israela the Israeli Defense Forces said that he was
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Speaker 3: killed when the Israeli Air Force attacked the underground intelligence headquarters.
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Speaker 2: Of his blow.
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Speaker 3: This is in Beirut, in one of their southern suburbs,
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Speaker 3: so thus slowly but surely taking out the top brass
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Speaker 3: the leadership. Twenty one minutes after five. Now Italian just
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Speaker 3: a second about Genesis and their warning for other electricity
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Speaker 3: providers about coal. Right now, though, we're going to talk ambulances.
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Speaker 3: Saint John and it's ambulance workers have found a solution
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Speaker 3: to their previous pay dispute. Saint John says there will
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Speaker 3: be no more industrial action that would disrupt road ambulance services.
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Speaker 3: It comes as the government announces a twenty one million
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Speaker 3: dollar funding boost for Saint John to go towards the operation.
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Speaker 3: The Ambulance Association secretary Mark Quinn is with us this morning. Mark,
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Speaker 3: good morning, good morning. This is obviously good news. I'm
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Speaker 3: struggling to find detail on this. What will this mean
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Speaker 3: for your average ambulance worker.
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Speaker 8: All this means that pay increases, which is above the
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Speaker 8: inflationary pressures that have been going on, and including some
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Speaker 8: conditions which medical, which is quite significant. So it only
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Speaker 8: takes us through to the end of June twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 3: Right, So next year will we be back in the
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Speaker 3: same situation with strikes again.
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Speaker 8: Possibly. It's certainly not the first option that we look
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Speaker 8: as a union to go to, but it's indicative what
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Speaker 8: the exits we took this year of the frustration and
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Speaker 8: actually the end how angry some of our members were
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Speaker 8: around where they found themselves when going to the bargaining
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Speaker 8: table with the employer saying they had nothing to offer us,
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Speaker 8: which I did in February this year.
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Speaker 3: They said it was the last, final offer, best and final, right,
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Speaker 3: and here we are with, you know, with more money
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Speaker 3: they've found behind the back of the couch presumably, so
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Speaker 3: problem not solved, problem just band aid it over.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, to a degree, I don't have a result that
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Speaker 8: this is a pay perity, you know. And this is
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Speaker 8: where since paramedics particularly were registered in twenty twenty, we've
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Speaker 8: seen that they have come a valuable commodity outside the
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Speaker 8: traditional inblance services of Saint John and Warrington free and
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Speaker 8: that is partly driving you know, their recognition to be
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Speaker 8: sitting alongside doctors and nurses and other health professions where
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Speaker 8: there sitting because they are now valued in the community,
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Speaker 8: and that's having seeking positions or getting positions out in
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Speaker 8: emergency department's, primary health care organizations and in the other
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Speaker 8: community healthy agencies. So that's you know, Saint John's been
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Speaker 8: slowly recognized that they're actually a valued product outside the
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Speaker 8: traditional inblance services.
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Speaker 3: The one hundred percent funding, obviously we're not there yet.
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Speaker 3: The New Zealand First Party has had promised during the
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Speaker 3: election campaign to get ninety five plus. Do you know
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Speaker 3: where this extra funding gets us to in terms of
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Speaker 3: a percentage, No.
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Speaker 8: It only twenty one million only adds so I think
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Speaker 8: is a total of three hundred and fifty seven million,
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Speaker 8: So it probably adds somewhere another ten percent of their
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Speaker 8: good will take. But it certainly is a band aid
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Speaker 8: because it doesn't nobody knows what one hundred percent funding
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Speaker 8: looks like, and certainly Saint john are now and this
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Speaker 8: year have taken a turn from promoting themselves as only
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Speaker 8: wanting eighty two to eighty two percent funding to now
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Speaker 8: wanting one hundred percent. But there's a recognition partly of
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Speaker 8: the economic situation in New Zealand and the inability to
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Speaker 8: meet the inflation the pressures that you know for any
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Speaker 8: other business or organization is currently experiencing.
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Speaker 2: Mark, thank you very much for your time.
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Speaker 3: Best to like Mark Quin, New zeal An Ambulance Association
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Speaker 3: Secretary twenty.
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Speaker 2: Five after five, Ryan Bridge, she ordered.
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Speaker 3: To generally has the report out which we're going to
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Speaker 3: look into just before six this morning, and it asks
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Speaker 3: the question if I do some kids who are low
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Speaker 3: income poor kids managed to achieve at school and others not.
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Speaker 2: The Ministry does not have an answer.
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Speaker 3: We will ask that question of one of the unions.
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Speaker 3: Just before six twenty five after five News Talks INB
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Speaker 3: News Talks AB just gone twenty seven after five.
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Speaker 2: Why would you want to be a bus driver?
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Speaker 3: Yesterday a driver, fellow passengers all witnessed a stabbing take
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Speaker 3: place and the person died. This is two thirty in
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Speaker 3: the afternoon on a bus in suburban Auckland and someone
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Speaker 3: is stabbed to death. There's been beatings of passengers and drivers.
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Speaker 3: I don't have to explain this. You've seen the headlines.
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Speaker 3: The problem of driver safety seems to only be getting worse.
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Speaker 3: I was walking past a bus. Just a few weeks back,
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Speaker 3: there was a guy. He looked wild in the eyes.
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Speaker 3: You know the ones that just look crazy, You know
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Speaker 3: the ones that I'm talking about, swearing and yelling and
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Speaker 3: walking up to buses and kicking the doors. So every
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Speaker 3: time a bus would come along, the guy would just
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Speaker 3: kick their door, and he did it to several of them.
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Speaker 3: I didn't say anything. I was with other people. They
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Speaker 3: didn't say anything because you're just worried he's gonna go.
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Speaker 2: Nuts at you. But we could carry on walking down
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Speaker 2: the road.
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Speaker 3: When you work on public transport, you cannot escape the public,
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Speaker 3: and when the public is increasingly hostile, there are more
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Speaker 3: and more bad eggs on the bus. Where do you
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Speaker 3: go to Nowhere? You can't go anywhere. And the long
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Speaker 3: promised safety screens are finally being installed, but as we
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Speaker 3: heard on the show a couple of months back, it'll
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Speaker 3: take another two years to even get to eighty percent coverage.
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Speaker 3: There are plenty of safe bus journeys out there, plenty
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Speaker 3: of drivers who love what they do, no doubt about that.
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Speaker 3: But the more you hear about these awful acts of
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Speaker 3: violence on or around our drivers, you've got to ask yourself,
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Speaker 3: is it worth the risk, Dry and Bridge twenty eight
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Speaker 3: after five the Genesis thing. I'll get to you in
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Speaker 3: just a second. Being zed has a survey out this morning. Surprise, Surprise,
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Speaker 3: Nine and ten of us have been targeted by scammers.
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Speaker 3: I had a call yesterday from a random number. Did
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Speaker 3: a quick Google search and people had listed it on
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Speaker 3: a website as a scam call. So I just blocked
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Speaker 3: the number. I know a woman who I won't say
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Speaker 3: who it is, but I know a woman who has
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Speaker 3: a whistle by her phone and when the scammers call,
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Speaker 3: she blows the whistle in the air, trying and make
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Speaker 3: them deaf.
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Speaker 2: Do you have a strategy like that?
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Speaker 3: Nine? Two the numbers text so Genesis. Have we got
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Speaker 3: time for quick Genesis ten seconds?
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Speaker 2: No, we don't. We'll do it after the news.
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Speaker 4: The news you need this morning and the in depth
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Speaker 4: analysis Early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City New
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Speaker 4: Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store. News Talk Z
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Speaker 4: it'd be.
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Speaker 3: Good Morning New Zealand. It is twenty four away from
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Speaker 3: six year on news Talk ZB.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.
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Speaker 3: If you're just joining us, We're live to the United States.
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Speaker 2: Shortly.
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Speaker 3: Did Trump rarely say that he wanted generals like Hitler
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Speaker 3: and why does some poorer, lower socioeconomic kids do well
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Speaker 3: at school and others not. The Order to General's report
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Speaker 3: will look at that before six this morning. Genesis I
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Speaker 3: promised you I'd get to this. Genesis Energy has told
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Speaker 3: the rest of the electricity sector if you want coal
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Speaker 3: to cover the shortage next year, because everyone's saying next
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Speaker 3: year is going to be really bad. We thought this
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Speaker 3: winter was bad. Get your coal orders in now, folks.
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Speaker 3: That's basically the gist of what they're saying. They're increasing
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Speaker 3: the coal supply for next winter. We are obviously going
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Speaker 3: to have shortages again. They aim to stockpile five hundred
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Speaker 3: killer tons, which is the equivalent of one thousand Gigawa ours,
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Speaker 3: to cover the Automan winter peak demand period for its
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Speaker 3: own customers. This is between March and August twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 3: And they're saying anyone else who wants to do the same,
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Speaker 3: you need to get in quick. So there you go
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Speaker 3: back to the good old days of coal. It is
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Speaker 3: twenty three minutes away.
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Speaker 4: From six brayin Bridge.
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Speaker 3: We're going to our reporters around the country now. Calum's
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Speaker 3: first and Duned and Colm good morning to you.
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Speaker 2: Good to have you on the show.
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Speaker 3: Port Otago is bringing in the cash for its regional council.
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Speaker 9: Your morning, Ryan, Your port Otago has presented its revised
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Speaker 9: statement of corporate intent for the next three financial years.
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Speaker 9: This is up until June twenty twenty seven, and it
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Speaker 9: estimates fifty eight million dollars in target dividends over that time.
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Speaker 9: The port's owned by the oc here Fully Counselors receiving
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Speaker 9: the statement at a meeting yesterday. The port says as well,
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Speaker 9: it's top priority of its eleven issues remain safety, with
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Speaker 9: climate change added for the first time ranked last. Port
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Speaker 9: Otago includes sites in Dunedin, Port Charmers and Fjordland.
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Speaker 2: How's your weather?
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Speaker 3: Cloudy, light rain at times today in twenty two cheers
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Speaker 3: Cullen Claire's and christs this morning. Hey clear, it's the
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Speaker 3: last day for this phase of the coronal inquiry into
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Speaker 3: the mask attack.
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Speaker 2: How long does this go on for?
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Speaker 10: This has been going on for more than a year now, Ryan,
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Speaker 10: and it will continue for yet more phases. Exactly how many?
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Speaker 10: We're not sure. This particular phase that we're in at
20:19
Speaker 10: the moment is when Deputy Chief current a Bridget Windley
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Speaker 10: has been hearing from experts specifically in relation to gun
20:25
Speaker 10: licensing processes. So we're talking legislation licenses, how the licenses
20:30
Speaker 10: were then used. We of course know that the terrorist
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Speaker 10: had a gun license which he had obtained in twenty seventeen.
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Speaker 10: Since starting at the beginning of this month, this phase
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Speaker 10: has heard from the terrorists licensed referees. There's also been
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Speaker 10: a brief from his sister who's in Australia, and also
20:45
Speaker 10: those involved in his application process. Lawyers are expected to
20:49
Speaker 10: make their closing statements today. This all comes as well.
20:52
Speaker 10: This is quite nice, Ryan. Some Canterbury University scholarships have
20:56
Speaker 10: been announced. One is called the Auto Tahi ado ha
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Speaker 10: wa Salam for Mosk attack survivors as well as their
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Speaker 10: family or family of victims, so they can pursue some study.
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Speaker 2: Right, how's your weather today?
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Speaker 10: Clear mainly find a bit of high cloud about Sgustine
21:10
Speaker 10: nor that these will ease at a hive of twenty.
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Speaker 2: Two great he a good one, MAXs and Wellington Max.
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Speaker 3: Some names now being floated about for the Crown observer
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Speaker 3: role for the Council.
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Speaker 2: Who are we talking?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, whoever it is will have to possess a great
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Speaker 11: deal of patience to sit in on ours long council
21:25
Speaker 11: meetings with this current group. It's mostly speculation with a
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Speaker 11: dash of speaking to sources, or more the latter than
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Speaker 11: the former. A former Toadonga City Council commissioner, and Tolly's
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Speaker 11: name has been thrown around a lot in the past
21:37
Speaker 11: day and a half. She has the experience intimate knowledge
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Speaker 11: of council workings, but not perhaps this particular council, but
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Speaker 11: that doesn't seem especially important. But now she says she
21:46
Speaker 11: is retired, but isn't ruling it out former Wantington mayor
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Speaker 11: fran Wilde, the former or Harlio MP, Peter Dunn, Kerry Prendergast,
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Speaker 11: She doesn't reckon she's up to it or perhaps some
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Speaker 11: faceless former public servant HDP yesterday suggested it should be
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Speaker 11: a lefty who can understand the books. Local government Minister
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Speaker 11: Simeon Brown says the official process is going through the
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Speaker 11: Department of Eternal Affairs, but some people have already been
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Speaker 11: putting their names forward, and of the names publicly touted,
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Speaker 11: Brown says, they've been mostly good and he appreciates the feedback.
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Speaker 3: Where do you find a left who understands the books. Kidding,
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Speaker 3: that's kidding, Hey, I reckon, don't discount Bill English because
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Speaker 3: he finished that kying Or order. He did the review
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Speaker 3: of kying Or Order's property. He's probably got a bit
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Speaker 3: of free time and he lives in Wellington crucially, so
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Speaker 3: you'd save a bit of cash, right anyway.
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Speaker 2: How's your weatherm.
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Speaker 11: Yes, keeping him very well employed. Mostly cloudy today, some
22:41
Speaker 11: very strong winds sixteen the high.
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Speaker 3: Brilliant, thank you androit Max Neva's and Auckland Neva. Have
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Speaker 3: they found the person who they think stabbed the individual
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Speaker 3: on the bus.
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Speaker 12: No, they haven't. Oh this story makes my blood boil
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Speaker 12: and everyone else here in Auckland and around the country.
22:55
Speaker 12: So yes, you're right. Police are still searching for the
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Speaker 12: suspect the fatals stabbing the bus passenger and Norni hunger.
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Speaker 12: They've identified the person through CCTV that we know that
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Speaker 12: the emergency services they transported you know, one person. This
23:08
Speaker 12: was yesterday afternoon Auckland City Hospital, critical condition but that
23:12
Speaker 12: happened about two thirty but that person later died. The
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Speaker 12: Auckland councilors so they've come out pushing for boosted public
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Speaker 12: transport security. What do you do the Public Transport Users
23:22
Speaker 12: Association chair, This is Neil Robertson. He says, police patrols
23:26
Speaker 12: of transport, that's what's needed. He said, you know that
23:29
Speaker 12: works well, proven well overseas. So let's just see what
23:33
Speaker 12: happens after this.
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Speaker 2: How's the weather neither.
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Speaker 12: Fine apart from morning and evening cloud very very warm.
23:38
Speaker 12: Summer's coming.
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Speaker 3: Twenty one is the high brilliant.
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Speaker 5: Thank you.
23:41
Speaker 3: It's interesting. We've had lots of texts on this this morning. Ryan,
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Speaker 3: my son is fifteen and I refuse to let him
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Speaker 3: ride the bus. I'd rather take him to and from
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Speaker 3: score pick him up. Society has become two violences.
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Speaker 12: See that's the thing. I was just wondering. You know,
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Speaker 12: who's going to catch the bus?
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Speaker 2: You know today?
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Speaker 3: Right after that, exactly and lots of ye, Chris says
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Speaker 3: we need a security guard on every bus.
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Speaker 2: That must be a joke.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you cannot put a security guard on every
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Speaker 3: single bus, can you. It's just completely impractical. Eighteen minutes
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Speaker 3: away from six News Talk ZB, we're live for the States.
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Speaker 4: Next International correspondents with ends and eye insurance, Peace of
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Speaker 4: mind for New Zealand.
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Speaker 3: Business just had a texture on one of our listeners
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Speaker 3: this morning, and thank you for the updates. By the way,
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Speaker 3: we had some great ones yesterday on the America's Cup
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Speaker 3: and where it may or may not be held next time.
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Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a second.
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Speaker 3: Right now, though, we're going to our correspondent out of
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Speaker 3: the United States, Sally Patterson is with us. Sally, the
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Speaker 3: comments from Trump's former chief of staff.
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Speaker 13: That's right, Ryan, So we've heard these pretty explosive comments
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Speaker 13: from John F. Kelly coming out now. He was Donald
24:51
Speaker 13: Trump's longest serving chief of staff. He's a former Marine
24:55
Speaker 13: general who was first US Homeland Secretary Security Secretary under Trump,
24:59
Speaker 13: and he moved into the White House in twenty seventeen.
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Speaker 13: But since then he's become ever more critical of his
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Speaker 13: former boss. And after Trump made some comments that you
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Speaker 13: may remember about using the military against what he called
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Speaker 13: the enemy within, Kelly says he felt like he had
25:16
Speaker 13: to speak out now. In this new interview with The
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Speaker 13: New York Times, Kelly says, in his opinion, the former
25:22
Speaker 13: president meets the definition of a fascist. He also claims
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Speaker 13: the presidential candidate admires dictators, including Hitler, and would govern
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Speaker 13: like one if allowed. Plus, he says he has no
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Speaker 13: understanding of the Constitution. Now, this isn't the first time
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Speaker 13: we've heard comments like this coming out from Kelly. Trump
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Speaker 13: spokesperson called the accounts of his time at the White
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Speaker 13: House debunked stories. But there's less than two weeks to
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Speaker 13: go now until election day here in the US, so
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Speaker 13: every new comment coming out each day could help sway
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Speaker 13: voters one way or the other.
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Speaker 2: What is this true? Do we know that this actually
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Speaker 2: happened and was seen.
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Speaker 13: Well, we've got Kelly's accounts of the situation. He gave
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Speaker 13: quite a lengthy interview with The New York Times about it.
26:08
Speaker 13: We've even heard some recordings of that. We've really only
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Speaker 13: got his accounts and the accounts of other senior White
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Speaker 13: House officials. Donald Trump has of course consistently denied that
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Speaker 13: he would say things to this nature, but we have
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Speaker 13: heard him say quite outrageous comments in the past. He says,
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Speaker 13: for example, that he admires Hitler because of his economic
26:28
Speaker 13: policies during that period of financial difficulty for Germany, and
26:33
Speaker 13: also says he likes the way that he commanded his
26:35
Speaker 13: soldiers and his army chiefs. So we're not sure exactly
26:39
Speaker 13: which bits of these are verbatim, but certainly some shocking
26:42
Speaker 13: accusations coming out.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your time.
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Speaker 3: Great to have you on the program, as always, Seally Pederson,
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Speaker 3: our US correspondent. It's thirteen minutes away from.
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Speaker 1: Six Brian Bridge.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 3: The Order to General has a reporter out. It's fifty
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Speaker 3: four pages long, and I just be with me just
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Speaker 3: while I read one little part of it actually says
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Speaker 3: that we don't the Ministry of Education doesn't have enough
27:03
Speaker 3: information about student achievement, which I think is something we know.
27:06
Speaker 3: It's interesting they also talk about inequities in education, so
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Speaker 3: the ministry knows there wide variations in student achievement between
27:16
Speaker 3: some broadly defined groups. For example, there are long standing
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Speaker 3: disparities between girls and boys in different subjects for students
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Speaker 3: in lower socioeconomic areas, for Mali and Pacific students.
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Speaker 2: We know that right.
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Speaker 3: However, it is also clear, says the report, that some
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Speaker 3: students that belong to these broadly defined student groups are
27:37
Speaker 3: reaching their potential. There are girls who are high achievers
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Speaker 3: in maths and boys who are high achievers in reading.
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Speaker 3: Nine percent of students with the lowest socioeconomic backgrounds achieved
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Speaker 3: excellence in maths nine percent. Why is that happening? Why
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Speaker 3: do some disadvantaged kids achieve and others not. Mark Potter
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Speaker 3: is the president of the NZI, is with us this morning.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Mark, good morning. The reports is that the
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Speaker 2: ministry can't answer that question. Do you have an answer?
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Speaker 14: Well, yeah, it's actually Alfie Cohin in America said that
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Speaker 14: standardized testing is a very good way of sitting out
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Speaker 14: how big the houses are near the schools where the
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Speaker 14: tests are delivered. So the idea of standized testing giving
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Speaker 14: you in depth information that the complex question the audit
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Speaker 14: general is asking. Standardized testing is never going to give
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Speaker 14: it to us. All it's going to test is so
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Speaker 14: receive knowledge, which is only part of the learning of children.
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Speaker 14: The disparity, even within such economic groups will have answers
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Speaker 14: that we won't find just by testing the children.
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Speaker 3: Are we wasting time and money then throwing millions of
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Speaker 3: dollars at that programs that are designed to level the
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Speaker 3: playing field.
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Speaker 2: If we can't.
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Speaker 3: Answer that question, that basic question about it, that will
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Speaker 3: inform what works right.
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Speaker 14: Well, it's a very good question, and the teaching profession
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Speaker 14: has been quite clear for quite some time that we
29:10
Speaker 14: need significant investments in the things that we know will
29:12
Speaker 14: make a difference. We have a waiting lists for specialist
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Speaker 14: support that are too long. We have teachers outnumbered by
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Speaker 14: the number of children with increasing demands in the classrooms.
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Speaker 14: We need more support, teacher aids and so on. We
29:27
Speaker 14: need more time for teachers to prepare for an increasingly
29:31
Speaker 14: high expectation that society has of the learning of children.
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Speaker 14: This is where we need investments. We don't need more
29:38
Speaker 14: measurements because we already know these issues. They have already
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Speaker 14: been identified. New Zealand, OECD has said, has had the
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Speaker 14: fastest growing social economic gap in the world. And go
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Speaker 14: figure that we've been struggling to maintain the same achievement
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Speaker 14: levels we used to enjoy once upon a time. In fact,
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Speaker 14: as a country, we're an outlier inc the data, because
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Speaker 14: they say we perform much higher in education than our
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Speaker 14: social economic factors indicate we should.
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Speaker 3: Can you say, I mean, you're obviously asking for as
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Speaker 3: you have done previously, asking for more money for techarides
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Speaker 3: and all these kinds of things. Can we say that
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Speaker 3: if we put all that money in, because we're spending
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Speaker 3: well eight and a half billion dollars on education at
30:18
Speaker 3: the moment, if we put all that money in, will
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Speaker 3: we get outcomes?
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Speaker 2: Will we get results?
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Speaker 14: Well, yes, we can say that because if he's look
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Speaker 14: into the evidence research around those very factors, they do
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Speaker 14: make significant difference to how children can learn. There are
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Speaker 14: a lot of factors outside the schools that schools cannot
30:36
Speaker 14: deal with, so our teachers face inequity on a daily basis.
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Speaker 14: But the things that can be done that can be
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Speaker 14: changed within the schools means our minister who does want
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Speaker 14: to make a difference needs to have a government background
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Speaker 14: by giving a genuine new money to invest, not to
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Speaker 14: clip and cut funly from one part of education and
30:56
Speaker 14: move it to another. We've been doing that for decades
30:59
Speaker 14: and it's not looking for our children.
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Speaker 3: All right, Mark, thanks very much for your time this morning.
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Speaker 3: That's Mark Potter, President of the NZEI.
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Speaker 2: Great to have you on.
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Speaker 3: The program is always eight minutes away from six. The
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Speaker 3: Minister will be on with Mike later on this morning
31:13
Speaker 3: for those who are interested. The audis general support. As
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Speaker 3: I said, it is quite long, but it is quite interesting.
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Speaker 3: The fact that they cannot pinpoint why some do better
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Speaker 3: than others. And if you can't pinpoint that, are you
31:26
Speaker 3: not excuse my French when you're putting money into programs,
31:30
Speaker 3: just kind of pissing in the wind.
31:33
Speaker 4: The first word on the News of the Day early
31:36
Speaker 4: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith, City New Zealand's Furniture
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Speaker 4: Beds and a Playing Store.
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Speaker 2: News Talks b.
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Speaker 3: Sticks away from six y're on news Talk seb Our
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Speaker 3: listener reports this morning. Yesterday we had one saying about
31:50
Speaker 3: Andrew Bailey, who had stood up and corrected the record
31:52
Speaker 3: in Parliament at ten o'clock the night before. This morning
31:54
Speaker 3: we've had a text from Philip who says an update
31:57
Speaker 3: from the newspaper here in Barcelona is that Barcelona will
32:01
Speaker 3: not be hosting the next America's Cup. There is a
32:04
Speaker 3: report from a local media and we've had a look
32:06
Speaker 3: at it. Organizers in the city council have apparently ruled
32:09
Speaker 3: out hosting the next America's Cup after an amicable split
32:15
Speaker 3: apparently emerates. Team New Zealand CEO Grant Dalton told the
32:18
Speaker 3: newspaper it would be difficult to expand the number of
32:22
Speaker 3: teams based on the available infrastructure in Barcelona. So then
32:25
Speaker 3: you go five minutes away from six on Newstalk z
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Speaker 3: b Ray and Bridge, Good morning, Mike morning, Good to
32:31
Speaker 3: see you.
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Speaker 6: Even better to see you Ryan.
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Speaker 3: Do you can you answer the question why do some
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Speaker 3: poor kids?
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Speaker 6: Well, there's no, no, there is no answer.
32:39
Speaker 2: Think about it.
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Speaker 6: I'm a poor kid. I came from a deprived ish background.
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Speaker 6: I did fine, I did okay?
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Speaker 2: So why?
32:46
Speaker 7: But why?
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Speaker 2: Because I wanted it? Because I wanted to? Did you
32:49
Speaker 2: have good family support? Always? There's always that, I mean
32:52
Speaker 2: for every kid.
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Speaker 6: You look at all the millionaires, all the self made
32:55
Speaker 6: people in the world who came from you know, difficult beginnings,
32:58
Speaker 6: who had dyslexia, inciting one from Richard Branson down. You
33:01
Speaker 6: know your upbringing, your background either holds you back or
33:05
Speaker 6: it doesn't. I've always believed it's a choice. And if
33:08
Speaker 6: you want to sit there and be a victim and go, well,
33:10
Speaker 6: look I as poor as a kid, or mum wasn't
33:12
Speaker 6: home much, your dad disappeared, or whatever the case may be,
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Speaker 6: and that's your excuse for life. Guess what, That's how
33:16
Speaker 6: your life will play out. Whereas if you want to
33:17
Speaker 6: make something of yourself you can.
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Speaker 3: The one thing worse than poverty is the absence of
33:24
Speaker 3: love is like a love poverty. I would have thought
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Speaker 3: it's very hard if you grew up in a household
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Speaker 3: where there's no love and care. Also, even if there's
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Speaker 3: no money, where if there's no loving care to actually
33:34
Speaker 3: do well later Probably whether you value education.
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Speaker 6: If you've got a mum or dad that never went
33:39
Speaker 6: to school and aren't interested in you go, what are
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Speaker 6: you doing that for your big loser? Why would you
33:43
Speaker 6: do that? I never do, et cetera. That's probably difficult.
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Speaker 6: You don't want to underestimate the school, the quality of
33:48
Speaker 6: the school. You don't want to underestimate the quality of
33:50
Speaker 6: the teachers, whether you know, connect with an individual who
33:52
Speaker 6: shows an interest in you, all that sort of stuff.
33:54
Speaker 6: It's a fascinating thing. I just don't know you'll ever
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Speaker 6: get to the bottom of it in a report.
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Speaker 3: Sadly anyway, despite it being fifty four pages long.
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Speaker 6: Precisely, but despite that, as you said, the minister will
34:05
Speaker 6: be willis brilliant.
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Speaker 3: Have a great morning everyone, I will see you tomorrow.
34:10
Speaker 3: I just getting to know Mike a bit more, isn't it.
34:12
Speaker 3: And then it's a little segments.
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Speaker 4: For more from early edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live
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