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The Late Debate | 9 October · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Late Debase and Paul is roaring out
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  Speaker 2: of the car park as we speak. Welcome to the program.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Caleb Bond with Frey Leitch and Dnika to Georgio.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what's coming up tonight. A radical plan from the
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  Speaker 2: European Union to let kids pick their own gender without
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  Speaker 2: seeing a doctor or having therapy, and sanctioned countries that
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  Speaker 2: don't give in to extreme gender ideology. That's soon. And
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  Speaker 2: what a momentous day Israel and Gaza on the edge
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  Speaker 2: of a peace steel broken by Donald Trump? Is there
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  Speaker 2: anything the man can't do? And later the country where
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  Speaker 2: they've had such a great apple season that the cider
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  Speaker 2: has turned out too alcoholic and now the brewers can't
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  Speaker 2: sell it to the pubs. But first, you can't believe
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  Speaker 2: it's another only in Victoria story. You can't be serious, man,
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  Speaker 2: You cannot be serious. I know. I feel like I've
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  Speaker 2: done one every night this week. But it is Victoria,
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  Speaker 2: so here we are. It's another Only in Victoria's story.
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  Speaker 2: And we talked extensively last night about the state of
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  Speaker 2: the bail system and the justice system, the crime problems
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  Speaker 2: they're having in Victoria, and just yet another example of
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  Speaker 2: how and why things are so bad, particularly when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to youth crime. Today, it's a fourteen year old
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  Speaker 2: boy who has been bailed now for the third time,
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  Speaker 2: despite the fact that the address he has been bailed
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  Speaker 2: to is like within walking distance up the road from
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  Speaker 2: his co accused. He's been accused of home invasion, carrying weapons,
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  Speaker 2: multiple aggravated burglaries, motor vehicle thefts, on and on it goes,
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  Speaker 2: all in the course of this year. Now. Last time
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  Speaker 2: he got picked up in September and they put him
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  Speaker 2: in the cells and he's been there ever since. But
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  Speaker 2: he's gone and applied for bail and lo and behold,
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  Speaker 2: he gets it now. Of course, these crimes are alleged,
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  Speaker 2: so he's not convicted of anything. We don't know that
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  Speaker 2: he's actually committed any crime. But you know, I think
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  Speaker 2: you get the picture that if you've been bailed three
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  Speaker 2: times in the course of a year, so you've been
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  Speaker 2: accused of a crime, you've been released on bail, and
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  Speaker 2: then you get arrested again, and then you get bail again,
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  Speaker 2: and then you get arrested again and they put you
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  Speaker 2: in the clink for a month and then they let
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  Speaker 2: you out again. To live up the road from the
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  Speaker 2: people who are your co accused, Like, how does it
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  Speaker 2: get any dumber?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the problem is because they keep getting released on
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  Speaker 3: bail and then reoffending and then released again. The message
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  Speaker 3: that these kids are getting sent is that it actually
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  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. They can go off and do what whatever
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  Speaker 3: they want because they won't face severe penalties. There's a
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  Speaker 3: group of eleven hundred kids in Victoria between the ages
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  Speaker 3: of ten and seventeen who in the year to June
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  Speaker 3: of twenty twenty five were arrested seven thousand times in
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  Speaker 3: one year. Seven thousand times eleven hundred kids. So this
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  Speaker 3: youth crime crisis is being driven by repeat offenders. The
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  Speaker 3: best way to deal with repeat offenders is to lock
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  Speaker 3: them up. But again we've seen just today a new
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  Speaker 3: Bench book of guidance on how to apply bail laws
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  Speaker 3: given to Victorian magistrates saying use bail as a last resort,
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  Speaker 3: go for the least interventionist approach, especially when you're dealing
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  Speaker 3: with indigenous youth. So again you have a legal system
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't want to actually enforce the law and has
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  Speaker 3: been so taken over by woke ideology that they're putting
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  Speaker 3: the feelings of criminal delinquents, of the safety of Victorians.
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  Speaker 1: It's insane and what message does that send to victims.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is half of the problem.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it basically says to victims, you're not the
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  Speaker 4: priority here. And we're seeing this time and time again
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  Speaker 4: in Victoria. I just said to Alan has absolutely no
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  Speaker 4: clue whatsoever how to deal with this youth crime crisis.
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  Speaker 4: And we only have to look at the machete bins
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  Speaker 4: for example too as an example of how.
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  Speaker 1: She thinks you can deal.
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  Speaker 4: We have got youth offenders laughing in our faces because
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  Speaker 4: guess what, they're.
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  Speaker 1: Out smarting everyone. They know.
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  Speaker 4: As soon as that they go to court, all they
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  Speaker 4: do is get a slap on the wrist. They're back
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  Speaker 4: out there the next day, and that cycle of crime
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  Speaker 4: continues over and over. And this is not just a
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  Speaker 4: Victorian problem. This is a nationwide problem, I've got to say.
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  Speaker 1: But to give it to.
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  Speaker 4: Queensland, they've actually seen youth crime drop since they introduced
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  Speaker 4: adult crime adult time laws, and they say that it's
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  Speaker 4: actually reduced by more than ten percent across the state.
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  Speaker 4: But it goes to your point, freyer lock these kids up.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care how old they are.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: I could not.
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  Speaker 4: Care less because the issue is they are doing this
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  Speaker 4: time and time again. So no no sympathy here and
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  Speaker 4: I don't buy this DOLLI incapax argument. But you know, children,
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  Speaker 4: you know under fourteen are incapable of evil.
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  Speaker 1: You know, give me a break.
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  Speaker 4: There was a kid in New South Wales last year,
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  Speaker 4: eleven years old who was in the children's court for
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  Speaker 4: the seventieth time in his life.
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  Speaker 1: Eleven years old. They know what they're doing and they're
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  Speaker 1: out smarting all of us.
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  Speaker 2: No dnegri he couldn't possibly understand right from wrong. Just
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  Speaker 2: listen to this. This is from the report in the
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  Speaker 2: Herald Sun today. This is what the kid has to
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  Speaker 2: do to adhere to his bail conditions. On Thursday, the
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  Speaker 2: court heard, as part of intensive bail conditions intensive right,
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  Speaker 2: Just keep that in mind, the team would engage in
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  Speaker 2: two youth justice sessions a week. That's intensive, and would
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  Speaker 2: be required to go to school for at least fifteen
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  Speaker 2: hours a week. I'll come back to that. But prosecutors
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  Speaker 2: made an impassioned plea for the boy to remain behind bars,
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  Speaker 2: starting zerms of him returning to his local area where
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  Speaker 2: he allegedly offended and would be living near his co accused.
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  Speaker 2: This is the quote from the prosecutor. He started networking
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  Speaker 2: actively with at least two other groups in his local area.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how much more obvious could it be that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, for the benefit of this kid, he should
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  Speaker 2: probably be behind bars to protect him from these influences
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  Speaker 2: in his life. But you know, he's going to go
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  Speaker 2: to these two youth justice sessions, whatever the hell they are.
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  Speaker 2: But he's got to spend at least fifteen hours a
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  Speaker 2: week at school. A school day is six hours a day,
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  Speaker 2: so six times five is thirty. So he's only got
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  Speaker 2: to spend half the week at school in order to
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  Speaker 2: adhere him to his bail condition.
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  Speaker 4: What the other issue is, and we don't talk about
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  Speaker 4: this enough, where are the parents?
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  Speaker 1: Right? You know?
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  Speaker 4: I understand people, You know, kids can come from very
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  Speaker 4: difficult upbringings, different households, But for goodness sake, our parents going,
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  Speaker 4: oh where's John?
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  Speaker 1: At six pm at night?
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  Speaker 4: He should be at the dinner table having dinner with us,
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  Speaker 4: and he's out, you know, ransacking homes and carjacking.
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  Speaker 1: You just think parents also have a responsibility.
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  Speaker 4: And I do agree that the justice system has let
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  Speaker 4: us down time and time again. But come on, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I think that we need to actually also start pointing
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  Speaker 4: the finger at parents as well. But anyway, let's move
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  Speaker 4: on to the European Union.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on.
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  Speaker 5: We're coming for them, We're coming, oh dear, well, look
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  Speaker 5: the European Union time and time again pushing a woke
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  Speaker 5: ideology on the rest of the world.
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  Speaker 4: But I've got to say this one really takes the
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  Speaker 4: cake because now they're considering new proposals which would mean
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  Speaker 4: that children are allowed to choose their own gender. You
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  Speaker 4: heard that, correct, Children would be able to choose their
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  Speaker 4: own gender and member states would be able to be
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  Speaker 4: punished for challenging gender ideology.
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  Speaker 1: Now you heard that? Right now?
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  Speaker 4: This is part of the European Commissions new LGBTIQ plus
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  Speaker 4: a quality strategy for the next couple of years, and
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  Speaker 4: I want to share with you some of the highlights
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  Speaker 4: of what they're proposing. Firstly, any age limits on gender
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  Speaker 4: recognition could be scrapped, and therapy to check whether children
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  Speaker 4: want to change their gender would be outlawed. So therefore,
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  Speaker 4: if a child is confused questioning their own gender, then
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. You don't have to go and see
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  Speaker 4: a therapist. You don't have to go and see a GP.
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  Speaker 4: It would be very easy for a child to go,
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  Speaker 4: I'm a boy, but actually I think I'm a girl.
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  Speaker 1: Booth. That's it too.
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  Speaker 4: It suggests blocking funds from discriminating regions and supports the
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  Speaker 4: strengthening of equality bodies. So what if a member state says, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: I don't agree with this plan, Oh, well we're going
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  Speaker 4: to block your funds.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to be punished for that.
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  Speaker 4: And it also suggests a ban on talking therapy for
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  Speaker 4: children suffering from gender issues. Now, look, I actually I'm
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  Speaker 4: really really worried about this, to be honest, this sets
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  Speaker 4: a very dangerous precedent because what does is it says parents,
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  Speaker 4: mom and dad, you've got no say in what happens here.
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  Speaker 4: When a child who can barely read or write, could
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  Speaker 4: be any age child can barely read or right, can't vote,
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  Speaker 4: can't drive, but suddenly is able to make an adult
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  Speaker 4: decision to change their bodies and cause irreparable damage, and
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  Speaker 4: you don't know what's going to happen later on in life.
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  Speaker 4: This is extremely dangerous. The consequences for children are particularly bad.
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  Speaker 4: But what on earth is the European Commission doing, and
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  Speaker 4: my concern is that countries around the world would follow suit. Now,
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  Speaker 4: obviously this has to go through a process, but we
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  Speaker 4: are already seeing this sort of gender ideology starting in
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  Speaker 4: Australia and who's not to say it could go further.
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  Speaker 4: Look what's happening again only in Victoria. You've got this
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  Speaker 4: program that just into Alan implemented whereby a teacher can
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  Speaker 4: ask a child if you don't feel like you're a boy,
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  Speaker 4: you don't feel like you're a girl, that's all right,
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  Speaker 4: you can question your own gender. I mean the ideology
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  Speaker 4: has started. And if this is going on now in
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  Speaker 4: the European Union, where children are going to be able
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  Speaker 4: to pick their gender, Caleb, where does it end?
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  Speaker 2: Well? How smart do the Poms look right now having
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  Speaker 2: built out of the European Union? Right, Because it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: the business about saying well, children can can choose their gender.
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  Speaker 2: We've heard it before and it is sick. But when
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  Speaker 2: you then add on that you're going to use the
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  Speaker 2: long arm of the law and the funding that you
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  Speaker 2: give to nations to say, well, you either fall into
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  Speaker 2: line or you lose money. I mean you're at a
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  Speaker 2: coercive point there where you're saying you just have to
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  Speaker 2: adhere to gender ideology. There's no questioning we get rid
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  Speaker 2: of recognized forms of therapy. You have to fall into
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  Speaker 2: line or will take your money away. I mean that
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  Speaker 2: is insane and particularly I can't believe. And yes, this
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  Speaker 2: has to go through a process of ratification if it's
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  Speaker 2: to come in, you know, there's in all likelihood it
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  Speaker 2: won't get past and I hope that that is the case.
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  Speaker 2: But the fact that this would even be put up
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  Speaker 2: before the European Union when most of the Western world
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  Speaker 2: has started to wake up to where gender ideology is
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  Speaker 2: at and that we have gone too hard for too
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  Speaker 2: long and that harm has been caused. The cash report
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  Speaker 2: out of the UK, most of the world is actually
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  Speaker 2: turning the dial down on this stuff, and the European
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  Speaker 2: Union is turning around and saying, well, actually maybe we
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  Speaker 2: should ratchet it up. That is insane.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And the other element of the report was they
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  Speaker 3: have a whole section dedicated to combating transphobia online through
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  Speaker 3: combating disinformation about LGBTQ stuff. All that they're now empowered
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  Speaker 3: to do under their Digital Services Act, which essentially gives
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  Speaker 3: the European Union huge powers to coerce social media giants
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  Speaker 3: to take things down at their will, much like what
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  Speaker 3: we've seen now in Australia with our e Safety Commissioner.
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  Speaker 3: And that's where this is all headed really, because the
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  Speaker 3: general population does not support this, even if you're not
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  Speaker 3: a conservative. This is not left all right, This is
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  Speaker 3: common sense versus insanity. So how do they convince the
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  Speaker 3: population to go along with it through censorship? And the
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  Speaker 3: report's very clear about that. It's all about combating disinformation.
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  Speaker 3: But if I were a parent in the European Union
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  Speaker 3: right now, I'd be packing my kids up and leaving
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  Speaker 3: because that is terrifying. You could now be facing the
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  Speaker 3: prospect of setting them off to school and then they
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  Speaker 3: come back and say, Mom, Dad, haven't been too therapy,
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  Speaker 3: haven't seen a doctor, haven't done anything, but I'm now
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  Speaker 3: a boy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, at least the UK had that court
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  Speaker 4: decision a couple of months ago whereby you know, an
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  Speaker 4: adult woman was actually defined. You know, you can actually
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  Speaker 4: define the sexes. But here in Australia we don't know
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  Speaker 4: what a woman is in our own Sex Discrimination Commissioner
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  Speaker 4: this week in the Senate estimates she couldn't even define
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  Speaker 4: the difference between a biological man and a biological woman. And
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  Speaker 4: this is where it starts to get very on edge
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  Speaker 4: when the definitions in law they're not clearly defined. Even
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  Speaker 4: though why we need laws to empoint?
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  Speaker 1: Fine? But in court, why did it accord to tell you?
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  Speaker 4: But once that ideology starts, it doesn't end well.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of the UK, the UK Prime Minister Sekis Starma
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  Speaker 3: is in India and has met with the architect of
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  Speaker 3: India's digital ID system. He met with Nandan Nilakhani and
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  Speaker 3: was then spreaking how wonderful digital ideas. Just look how
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  Speaker 3: fantastic India is. He said, there is a case to
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  Speaker 3: be made about the benefits for voluntary ID into other areas,
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  Speaker 3: and obviously we need to make that case. We're going
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  Speaker 3: to a country India, where they've already done ID and
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  Speaker 3: made a massive success of it. So when Starma says
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  Speaker 3: India has done digital ID, that is very true. But
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  Speaker 3: their digital ID goes so far beyond just a digitization
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  Speaker 3: of records or your license.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: No, they track your residential address. They have iometric data
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  Speaker 3: on every single citizen. One point three billion people are
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  Speaker 3: using this thing. You need a digital ID to access
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  Speaker 3: any government payments, to enroll in schools, to go to hospitals.
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  Speaker 3: And this is a whole of society thing that is
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  Speaker 3: required to even function in India. Now kirst Arma's gone
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  Speaker 3: off there and gone, see look how well digital ID
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  Speaker 3: is going. If India is your example, the UK is
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  Speaker 3: in trouble.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if we should do a digital ID
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  Speaker 2: because India did it, let's have a caste system as well,
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  Speaker 2: because they do that too. But he went on to say,
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  Speaker 2: and he's to do the journos along his trip in India,
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  Speaker 2: he said, and this is hilarious, he says, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how many times this is justifying way you need
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  Speaker 2: a digital D and say it's going to spand you
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  Speaker 2: know it'll be more than just getting a job. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how many times the rest of you have
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  Speaker 2: had to look in the bottom drawer for three bills
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  Speaker 2: when you want to get your kids into school or
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  Speaker 2: apply for this or apply for that. Drives me to frustration.
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  Speaker 2: You think we could gain a significant advantage. Yes, that's
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  Speaker 2: how he's now selling the idea of digital ID that
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  Speaker 2: when you're sending your kids of little Johnny goes off
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  Speaker 2: to kinder, you won't need to find three bills. And
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  Speaker 2: he's setting it up, as we said from the beginning,
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  Speaker 2: it's all, well, we need this to stop illegal migration
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  Speaker 2: because they're coming to take our jobs, and so you'll
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  Speaker 2: need a digital ID to prove that you are a
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  Speaker 2: citizen of the UK, have a visa or whatever the
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  Speaker 2: hell it is. It begins as that, and then it
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  Speaker 2: becomes well, there's all these other things we can link
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  Speaker 2: up to your digital ID too. It's going to make
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  Speaker 2: your life easier. It also means the government has oversight
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  Speaker 2: of everything you do, and that's what he is now saying.
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  Speaker 2: You can use it to apply for a bank loan,
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  Speaker 2: you can use it to get your kid into school,
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  Speaker 2: you can use it to pay your utility bills. Suddenly
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  Speaker 2: everything is linked to your digital ID, which is linked
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  Speaker 2: to the government. Get it away from Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He's really trying the hard sell at the moment, so Kia,
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  Speaker 4: isn't he. But he also said, actually another quote, he said,
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  Speaker 4: so on the one hand, it's mandatory for work, but
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  Speaker 4: I actually think it would be a good passport. So
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  Speaker 4: where slowly he's creeping in is it he's really just
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  Speaker 4: expanding his horizons it's gone from immigration now, it's gone
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  Speaker 4: from everyday life now, passports down the track and of
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  Speaker 4: course all under the guise of proof of the right
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  Speaker 4: to work and.
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  Speaker 1: Live in the United Kingdom.
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  Speaker 4: Look, this is actually really dangerous and I can see
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  Speaker 4: why Kiirstarma is so low in the polls because there
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  Speaker 4: has been such a backlash across Britain towards this, because
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  Speaker 4: it really is big Brother is watching, he's and if
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  Speaker 4: India has got biometrics, that in itself is frightening. And
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  Speaker 4: we know that kirs Starma, he loves to be influenced there.
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  Speaker 4: He's very easily influenced by people. So I feel for
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  Speaker 4: the UK and I just think that this is a
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  Speaker 4: real worry.
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  Speaker 1: It is absolutely a form of control.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, if they can start to use it
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  Speaker 2: for your excess to services, they can also potentially catch
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  Speaker 2: offer service there, right, And this is what Nigel fra
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  Speaker 2: has talked about. You know he was debanked, but that
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  Speaker 2: was without a digital ID. But they could start doing
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  Speaker 2: this stuff very fast and could be behaviors that they
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  Speaker 2: deemer that they don't like, like you know, I like
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  Speaker 2: a punt for instance. And you know, it's always been
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  Speaker 2: the good thing about going to the pub or the tap.
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  Speaker 2: You're punting cash and they can't track what you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: But you know eventually they'll take that away and then
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  Speaker 2: they'll say, well, in order to use a betting service online,
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  Speaker 2: you'll have to give you a digital ID to prove
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  Speaker 2: who you are, and then the government will track how
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: much you're betting, and then they'll knock on the door
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: and say, excuse me, sir, you can bet no more
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: because it's a bad thing. And that's what this chap
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: in the UK wishes happened to him. Now. His name
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: is Lee Gibson and he's a multimillionaire. He's a property developer.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: He's not short of a quid. But he put nearly
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: one and a half million pounds through Betfair, which is
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: a betting company, and he says that they should have
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: stopped him before he did. And bear in mind that
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: the man has millions of dollars. It's not like his
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: destitute because he gambled this money and he gambled it
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: over the course of a decade between twenty and nine
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: and twenty nineteen. But he is now going off to
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: court in the UK to say that Betfair should have
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: worked out that he was a problem gambler and stopped
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: him from gambling all that money away. And look, as
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I said, I like a punt. That's not a secret.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I own horses, owned dogs. I'm going to the Adelaide Cup,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: the Greyhound version of Tomorrow Night, so see you're there,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: if you're there. So I have no aversion to gambling.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: And I understand that, Yes, bookies do have some level
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: of responsibility, and generally I think they're pretty good at
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: shutting people down. They often shut people there when they
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: win too much as well. I should not because you know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: we can't have them on the books. But there are
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: rules in place across the western world, so it's one
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: of the laxus countries. But in the UK, in particularly,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: they're much stricter than they are here about keeping on
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: top of this stuff. If you've got a block who
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: has millions of dollars and over the course of ten
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: years puts a million and a half pounds through the bookies,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't necessarily look at him and go, oh, well,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: he's a problem gambling. You just say he's a guy
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: with a lot of money who's gambling a lot of money,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: as is his right. But he now thinks that the
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: courts should do something about it. Mate, why didn't you
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: just go get some help if you think you were
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: a problem gambling?
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Well, his claim is essentially that the gambling company owes
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: him a duty of care to protect him from himself.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: That's the fundamental argument, which just on a legal level,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: really makes absolutely no sense. And if you extended that
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: to every industry and said everyone has a duty of
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: care to protect people from themselves, I mean, there goes
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: personal responsibility out the window, and then what kind of
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: a society would we be left with. It would be crazy.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: But the other thing is the gambling company did take
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: steps to stop him. They disabled his account back in
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, so now he's claiming the losses from the
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: decade before that. I mean, this is ridiculous, and it
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: should be noted the case already went to the High Court.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: It was thrown out in the High Court. Now it's
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: going to the Court of Appeal. So I think it's
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: more litigious and just about proving a point. But the
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: point it's trying to prove is stupid and society would
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: crumble if it were actually to succeed as a case.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, and the reality is is this guy
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: is a multi millionaire and by all accounts, is a
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: professional gambler. Like we're not talking some amateur who's just
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: you know, gone down to the slot machine on a
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Saturday night and given it a crack. Like this guy
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: knows exactly what he's doing, so what he wants the
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: gambling company to try and save him from his own stupidity.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: You know, it's just ridiculous. But my issue now with
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: this is in the event that you know, this obviously
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: going to the Court of Appeal. Okay, so say, for instance,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: the Court of Appeal rules in favor of this man. Gee,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: that sets a pretty big precedent, does it not for
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: gambling companies.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, if beth Fair is found to have.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: You know, not stepped in enough and you know, stopped
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: him from gambling, every man and their dog are going
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: to start suing every single bedding.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Company because they're going to go, well, I've run out
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: of money. What can I do? Actually, you know what,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I'm going to sue the betting company. And this is
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: exactly what they're going to do.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: The bookie forcibly took the money from my hands, you know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine Kerry Packer back in the day,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: and he liked to have a large water cash on
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: a horse, picking out the phone of the tab and
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: the toab saying, oh sorry, mister Packer, we'd like to
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: see your payslip before you put the bed on. I mean,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: you're can imagine what are you want to say?
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Exactly? No, well look exactly now.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Look they said Donald Trump couldn't do it, and guess
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: what he has, because today we have found out that
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Hamas has indeed agreed to the plan that's been put
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: forward by Donald Trump for peace. This will be the
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: first phase of the deal, where it is expected that
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: twenty living Israeli hostages will be released over the weekend.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Israeli Defense Force will also retreat from seventy percent of
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: the Gaza strip and work will begin to disarm and
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: exalt the terrorists from Gaza. Look, this is absolutely phenomenal.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Here is what we know so far. We'll bring up
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: that graphic so her Mus to release all the hostages,
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: IDF withdrawal to a greed line, Palestinian prisoners freed, and
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: the entry of aid into Gaza. Here was the moment
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: that Donald Trump found out officially that Hamas had indeed
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: agreed to his plan.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: To find the criminal conspiracy.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, I was just given a note by the
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: Secretary of Stage saying that we're very close to a
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: deal in the Middle East and they're going to need
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: me pretty quickly.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: And as you can imagine, this has been met with celebrations.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, for two years, Israel has been at a standstill.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: It doesn't know when it was going to be attacked
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: again by its enemy. And we've seen celebrations, finally, jubilation
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: out of Israel because.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: They know that they finally have a way forward.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Have a look at some of the celebrations that we
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: have been seen taking place. But look, I've got to
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: say Donald Trump should be commended here because he is
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: the only leader in the world who has had the
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: moral courage to take this song to come up with
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: a plan. While you had people like Anthony Arbenzi and
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Serkia Stamer falling over themselves in a congoline at the
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: United Nations recognizing a Palestinian state, Donald Trump was working
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: in the background on a plan for peace for the
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: very first time since twelve hundred Jews were slaughtered, women
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: were raped, and the hostages were taken. Donald Trump has
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: been strong on this from the beginning. You recall back
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: in January he said to Hummus, if you do not
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: release these hostages, there will be hell to pay. A
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: week and a half ago, he said to Benjamin Ett Yahu,
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: if her Must has not come to the table on this,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: you have my full permission to do whatever you need
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: to do. That takes a lot of courage. It takes
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: a lot of moral courage to do so. Now I think,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: right now I feel it's cautious optimism because I won't
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: believe it until this actually happens. Harmas have They've never
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: followed through. A couple of months ago, they did that
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: prisoner swap in exchange for hostages, but then they broke
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: that cease fire.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: And they've done this multiple times.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: So whilst I think this is fantastic news, I don't
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: think we can be like, yay, it's all.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I'll believe it when I see it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: But for the first time, you've got the Middle East
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: on board with this, and I think that it really
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: was the Middle East and States that pushed Hermas to
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: do this, And it essentially means that Hamas will have
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: to lay down their arms.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: This is huge Frayer.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: And it's the ultimate vindication of the Piece through Strength doctrine,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: because that's the only reason this deal has gone through,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Because there is a credible and serious threat that if
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Hamas doesn't accept the deal, Israel will continue, Israel will
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: go into Gaza City and they will destroy whatever is
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: left of Hamas once and for all. But for this
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: deal to get to this point, that threat had to
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: be very real and very believed. And as much as
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: people criticized it at the time, Israel's strike on the
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Hamas leaders in Doha in Qatar also tip the scales.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: All of a sudden, the Middle Eastern States went, oh
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: my gosh, they've hit Iran. The US joined in, They've
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: hit Qatar.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Who else are they going to hit?
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: We need to actually stop this now. But the critical
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: thing here, though, is one, what will actually happen to Hamas?
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: How do they actually deride clie the Gazan population? And
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: this is going to come at immense costs. Around one
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: thousand Israeli soldiers who were already died finding the war
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: in Gaza. Now you've got thousands of prisoners that are
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: going to be released, some of whom participated in October
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: seven and they're going to go back into Gaza and
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: just live a happy dandy life.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, where do they go? Now? Where are
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: these terrorists going to go?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's a lot, there's a lot to
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: This is the early stages, right there is. There's a
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: lot to come. But I've just got to say that
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the guy who wrote the Art of the Deal proves
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: again how he pulls off the deal. He had Hamas
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: exactly where he wanted him, he had Nitnya who exactly
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: where he wanted him. He had it all sorted and
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: ready to go. He laid it all down and by
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: all accounts he's been able to pull it off. And
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: it's very hard to think of anyone else who would
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: be able to do.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: That exactly right. Well, this is a segment we normally
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: save for later in the show, but we're bringing it
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: to you a little early tonight.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: John took the Day.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: It's our dope of the day, and today it is
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: none other than the sweetish goblin Greta Tunberg, who posted
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: a post on social media decrying the suffering of Palestinian prisoners,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: who said, it's not a matter of opinion, it is
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: a fact of systemic and dehumanization. Humanity cannot be selective.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Justice cannot have borders. Except if you look at one
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: of the images there on the right side of the post.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Who's that an emaciated Palestinian prisoner. According to Greta Tumberg,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: that is actually an Israeli hostage who was released at
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: the video of this was released in a her mass
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: propaganda video where he was forced to dig his own grave.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: So the only photo of adult starvation in Gaza, and
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: the only one that the pro Palestine side can actually
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: go here here, it is all our claims of starvation.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: It's right here.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: It's actually an Israeli hostage.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Think about that. Think about that.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: And now we thought she'd reached extreme levels of stupidity.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: This is just next level.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: But still no mention of the hostages, even though I
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: thought justice shouldn't have borders.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Greta, And if she'd spent more time working out her
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: facts and not working on her Lord far cord head,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: she might have worked it out. I mean, I think
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: it proves. I think it proves, doesn't it that because
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: she's so young, was set up as the activist and
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: on on a particular issue, which of course was climate
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: and as she's gotten older and she's not a kid anymore,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: she needs something to do, and she's sort of stuck
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: in that activist rat that she's just latched onto what
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: is the latest thing. At the time, it was climate change,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: then she latched onto Palestine because it's the latest thing.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: She doesn't really care about the issue, She just cares
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: about the relevance. And so she can't even do basic
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: fact checking about images in her graphics.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: She ever had a job, That's what I'd like to know.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: What does she do in her spare time when she's
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: not out being a serial.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Pest, a serial goblin? Did she she work?
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Or she just you know, hops on boats, waves a
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: flag around, you know, where's a kefe. She's just look,
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: she's absolutely pathetic. But this was a serious blunder. And
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: you know, she's fresh from her flotilla flop number two,
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: which was another disaster. I'm sure there'd be a third
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: flotilla attempt at some point where she'll claim that she's
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: been detained and you know that she's been abused and
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: she was forced to kiss the Israeli flag or whatever.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: The help I mean, you just can't make this stuff up.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: When it comes to greater.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Seriously, but honestly, this was actually a real, real blunder.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: In fact, the sister of that Israeli hostage also wrote
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: a comment underneath that post to say, you should do
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: your research before you post these things that you don't understand,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: and that would be terribly or just awful for a
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: family member to see that vision come up again, but
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: especially by somebody like Greta Thunberg.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Kissing the Israeli Did you say that they made so?
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Basically, there was a Swedish activist who was also deported
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: as well, and they came out claiming that she was
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: forced to kiss the Israeli flag and that she was
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: also beaten up by the IDF, which I mean, it's
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: just it just is so nonsensical.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: There's a load of nonsense have been.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: You would have seen as she got released two days ago.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: She looked bright as a button. She had certainly not
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: been physically harmed. But that's the kind of nonsense that
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: they're pedaling.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Got a kiss from Greta Tunberger. I wouldn't even wish
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: that on the Chinese flame. I want to reach it
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: on my DOMEBOOKA to be honest, good point speaking of
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: people you wouldn't wish things upon. It's very hard to
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: buy a house in Sydney. We know that the median
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: house price house one point six million dollars in Sydney,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: but find the Comparison website has got to off and
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: crunch some numbers about if you're a single person, how
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: much money you need and how long you need to
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: save in order to buy a median house in Sydney
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: working in certain jobs, and they worked out that if
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: you're a nurse, a teacher, a vet, a bricklayer and
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: a bunch of other jobs, it'll take you about fifty
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: two years if you're a single person to save up
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: for a twenty percent deposit. This is from the story
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: today as the data fact, it can take as long
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: as fifty two years for a single buyer and these
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: professions to put down a twenty percent deposit on a
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Media and Sydney property valued at one point six million dollars.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Social workers, psychologists and plumbers were also in the fifty
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: two year club, while dentists and engineers could take as
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: long as forty two years. Now, these numbers based on
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: the entry level wage. So you would like to think
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: that you'd get pay rises as you go along, but
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: it does illustrate a point, even if you know, fifty
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: two and forty two years maybe a bit extreme. It
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: raises a serious point that if you are a single person,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: try to buy a property in Sydney, unless you are
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: on an exceptional wage. It's almost impossible because it's hard
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: enough for two people a married couple on an average
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: wage each to club the money together to go and
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: buy a house. How you would ever do it if
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: you lived on your own eye do not know?
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's just another lesson to young people.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Get out there, fall in love and get married, because
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: in Sydney these days you kind of have to be
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: to survive financially. But it's true, right like that, if
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: you are a single person, I don't know how you'll
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: ever do it, if you're working an average job with
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: an average wage. And that's a sad reality. And we
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: need to of course build more houses, but we have
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: to bring down immigration because clearly there is something fundamentally
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: wrong with the supply and demand equation in Australia's housing market.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah well, I mean there was a story actually earlier
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: this week that more women are going after rich men,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: so maybe maybe that's what you've got to do. You've
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: got to find yourself. You know what they call a
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: sugar daddy.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Isn't that I.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Was addressing both of you to be To be fair, No,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: I'm absolutely joking.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: That would not be my advice.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: But you do what you want.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, you know, look, it is really hard.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: And when you think even as even if you are
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: a single person, rent is so high in Sydney as
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: it is that you know, a lot of your salary
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: ends up going towards your.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Rent plus all of your bills.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: So I agree for you know this is go find
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: a husband. If this is not, if this is not
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: the push you need to get out there and then.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Let me know how youre going. Sugar daddy dot com.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Well, if you can't find a husband, it just contacts
• 33:18
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• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Has found a way to make a couple of extra bucks.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: There you go, there you go.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Well, speaking of a couple of extra bucks, let's talk
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: about electric vehicles.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're very expensive, aren't they.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know what you feel about how you feel
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: about them, but how do you feel about the concept
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: of driverless cars look personally, I don't know, but here's
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: one example that they could be coming to Australia anytime soon,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: because a Cadillac sub brand is in the midst of
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: launching as an Evy only brand in Australia using this
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: autonomous driving technology. Now, I don't know if you've both seen,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: but this is actually big.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: In Los Angeles at the moment.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: They're using like ride sharing services and they're all driverless.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I don't like it.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: What happens if this car breaks down in the middle
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: of the road. You've got no driver, you don't know
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: what buttons to push. That's my concern with these vehicles.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I don't like them.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: I don't like eb's full stop. I think they're a
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: complete waste of time. But a driverless car, no thanks,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: I want to be in control.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: No, I think this is the best thing ever.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Really, I think most driving most car crashes come from
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: human error, people falling asleep at the wheel, driving under
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: the influence, being distracted by their phone. You can get
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: people off the wheel. It's probably safer for everyone else
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: on the road.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: So now we're going to have robot here is going
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: to cause all the questions, what if the guy who
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: programs the car doesn't like me, and then he makes
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: it to it crashes and I don't, well.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Don't get a Chinese driverless car.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: One recommendation, malfunctions exactly.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Anything could be hacked. Yeah, I'm not sure.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you'd have a manual override. I'm sure. But anyway,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: that will be very, very exciting. And it is already,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: as you mentioned, Danika being used quite successfully in Los Angeles.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: But speaking of California, one of the Democrat nominees to
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: be the next governor of California, Katie Porter, was caught
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: in a horrendously awkward moment where she threatened to storm
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: out of an interview because she was asked about Trump.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: We've also asked the other candidates, do you think you
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: need any of those forty percent of California voters to win?
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: And you're saying no, you don't.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: vote i can.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: And what I'm saying to you is that, well to
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: those voters.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you I.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Don't want to keep doing this, I'm gonna call it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna do the interview with them, not like this.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I'm not not with seven follow ups to every single
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: question you ask.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Every other candidate hasn't care.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I just don't care. Nope, I'm gonna call it.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, she's not exactly likable, but this is
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: a pattern of behavior because back during COVID times, she
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: also got into this very awkward interaction half.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: A million Californians dying prematurely the air pollution and other problems,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: and the state could lose.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: You're out of my shot.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I wanted to tell you that that's actually incorrected. It's
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: not that it's electric vehicles. It's that if we don't
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: need a commitment pars climate.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, it does.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Okay. You also were in my shot before that.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: So that's how she treats journalists and staffers, you know who.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: She reminds me of Monique Rant. She is giving teal energy.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: It's exuding, even the hair, everything about her.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: She should move to k She's so up herself.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: I feel she is absolutely loving herself sick. I wonder
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: if she's got a doctor in her title as well,
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: doctor teal doctor.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Well, well, when the beach boys saying about you know,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I wish they all could be California girls. I don't
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: think they after the breaker. We'll show you how the
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: front pages tomorrow are marking this momentous deal between Israel
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: and Gazar, and on the front of the Daily Telegraph
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: a cop speaking out about how bad youth crime is
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: getting noxious Victoria other places as well. Don't go away Radio.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Let's get into the papers, starting with the tiers of tomorrow.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: On the front page, obviously marking the historic deal and
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Noble Prize Phase one, Don Trump gets Israel and Hermas
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: to agree with that iconic photo of Mark Rubio telling
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Trump that a deal was imminent. Then in the Australian
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow another front page with the deal on it, coming
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: home Hostages to be released after two years as peace
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: deeal Herald's New Middle East in dawn with happy people
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: on the front family members of hostages. So you can
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: just imagine the excitement and the relief that's being felt
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: by so many people now. But in the Australian in
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: terms of articles, tomorrow, PM's office went over Chalmers for
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: super tax advice. Anthony Albanese's office sought a briefing from
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Treasury on the government's plan to tax unrealized capital gains
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: on superannuation accounts. After the policy received a backlash from
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: stakeholders more than two years after the unlegislated measure was announced,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: the Prime Minister's office demanded to know how the criticism
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: marked by more than twenty thousand petition protests signatures in
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: the seven weeks following the election, might change the policy.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: The revelation came after Treasury revealed last month that the
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: new tax could be hit with a legal challenge and
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: the policy considerations around large superannuation balances remain under development
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: by the government, So that's a development there.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Albo's office went.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Over Charmer's offers to get more information about this.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: But it does.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Feel like this is being pushed by the left flank
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: of the Labor Party of which Albanezi is the head.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Charmers is obviously from the right, and he is pushing
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: a lot of this crazy economic policy, but it is
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: so unpopular.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and once you start with one thing like this
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: unrealized gains, you know, then it moves into other different taxes.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: And you know they had that economic forum, well it
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: was you know, basically taxes under the guise of an
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: economic forum. So once you start you don't stop.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: The tension though between the Prime Minister and the treasurer. Right,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: it's just so obvious.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is very obvious. Okay, let's look at
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: the Daily Telegraph now, git with it. Sorry, I'm to apologize, okay.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: Detainees accused of sick fraud is the article.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: There.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: A network of alleged criminals, including men in immigration detention
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: awaiting deportation, is accused of defrauding taxpayers at least eight million.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Dollars by impersonating.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: Sick Aussies to steal their Medicare benefits Services Australia has
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: conferen multiple arreci have been made as part of an
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: ongoing joint investigation with the AFP into a massive Medicare ripoff,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: with work still underweight to determine how many victims have
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: been impacted. The alleged perpetrators are accused of tricking ossies
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: into handing over personal information and bank log in details.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Gee, you know, I mean, where do we even begin
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: with this?
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: I mean that these men are in immigration detention awaiting deportation.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Why they haven't left the country yet is you know,
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: us labor? Why they haven't and now they're defrauding Aussies.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, seriously, what the heck's going on under labor?
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Nice work if you can get it, isn't it?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: You honestly cannot make this stuff up. You genuinely can't.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: But it also tells me that there's clearly not enough
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: for them to be doing in immigration detention. Surely we
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: can put these people to work. Can they be making stuff?
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Can they be got put to work in factories? If
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: they've got all the time to sit around and defraud
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Australians I mean something.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's an argument they've shown a bit of
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: being annuity here and the ability to scam people, So, like,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: you know, surely there's something legitimate we could actually get
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: them done.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Is that what you're saying? Put them into a skills
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: trade or something like that.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Sales something that's not stupid?
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Okay. The other story on the front page kids to Killers.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Children are progressing faster than ever from their first offense
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: to a world of organized crime gangs.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: That's according to one of the state's top cops.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: New South Wales Police Assistant Commissioner Scott Cook said the
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: involvement of children in crime had dramatically changed in the
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: past five years, where The entry point for a child
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: to come to the attention of police was once shoplifting or.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Not buying a train ticket.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: It's now common a car theft or home invasion. Look,
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: it goes back to this youth crime crisis that we
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: were just discussing at the start of the program. If
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: there aren't enough to terrance, these kids are going to
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: enter a life of crime because they're going into court,
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: they're getting a slap on the wrist, and guess what,
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: they're doing it over and over again. So I really
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: do think that the justice system has a massive.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Role to play in this.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: And it's the gang element that's, you know, the main driver,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I think, because once if the kid is falling through
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: the cracks and not getting enough attention of home or whatever,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: and they're looking for something to sort of fill that void.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: And so along comes a gang that of course is
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: quite happy to take in new members, and they bring
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: you in and give you a nice, warm hug and say,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: come on, little Johnny, we've got a job for you.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: You can understand why for a kid that would be alluring.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the other element is probably they're
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: thrill seeking as well, and the police say, you know,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: It used to be shoplifting that would be the point
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: of first contact.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Now it's car theft.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: And that just shows if you don't actually take these small,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: seemingly petty crimes seriously and give out serious punishments for those,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: that won't be enough, and things will escalate and escalate
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: and escalate to where first time offenders aren't shoplifting their
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: hijacking cars, and so you have to actually crack down
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: on everything, not just the serious stuff.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Well that was essential Rudy Giuliani's theory in New York, right,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: and it worked. You know, you crack down on the
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: people graffitiing on trains and you actually fix the entire city.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: You've got to start at the beginning. Funnily enough, on
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: the front of the end T News tomorrow, A good story,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I think this one. Martin Dole appointed as first Alice
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Springs based police commissioner, doling out justice. Acting Police Commissioner
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Martin Dole has been chosen to head up the territory
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Police Force, officially replacing Michael Murphy, and will be the
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: first to be based in Alice Springs. And it just
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: seems to make sense to me if that is that,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: you know, it is so the crime hot spot of
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: the Northern Territory. We know the problems they've been having
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: in the Alice in recent years. Why not send your
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: police commissioner there to send a message to say we're
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: actually going to do something.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Look, I think this is a long time coming. Well
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: done to the Northern Territory.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: How good is les been wonderful up there?
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's all actions for her. It
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: hasn't just been all talk, its actual legitimate actions. But
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: something had to happen to the territory. There's businesses still
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: to this day saying that they've had to that they're
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: shutting early, they're scared.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Something had to be done.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: I mean remember they had to put in multiple curfews
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: over the last twelve to eighteen months to try and deal.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: With the crisis there. So look, I hope that Martin
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Doll can make a huge difference.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: And the Northern Territory is another perfect example of how
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: woke progressive politics are actually regressive and have a negative
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: impact on vulnerable communities. Lifting the grog band, getting rid
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: of cashless welfare cast those were all left wing labor policies,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: all done in the name of inclusivity and progressivism but
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: backfired and hurt vulnerable people even more just quickly. In
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: the cans posts tomorrow, midday city watering explained, ooh a
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: bit of drama. Can's Regional Council has explained the use
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: of sprinklers to water its gardens in the middle of
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: the day while enforcing strict rules on residents amid fears
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: water of water so apply constraints. As council ramped up
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: its public appeal on households to reduce water usage following
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: reservoir failures, publicly owned gardens at Shield Street in the
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: CBD were under sprinkling irrigation about noon on Thursday. Oh
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: you're going to tell us not to water, well, you
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: better not be watering either.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Council exactly. I tell you what a lot bit of
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: drama in the council. This is fantastic.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Honestly, you're like, you're not surprised when you hear a
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: council does that staff to rules for the but not
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: for me. After the break, Where in the world have
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: they had such a good apple season that the cider
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: is too strong for sell in the pubs and which
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Australian politicians sent out thousands of emails congratulating people on
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: becoming new citizens when in fact they lived here since
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: the nineteen fifties. It's coming up.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I've set it up
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: on my email service that when I send an email,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: it actually gives me fifteen seconds to undo it. So
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: if I've had a mistake, yep, yep, I didn't know that,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: you can go and look at it. You can do
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: it on Gmail. I don't know about other services, but
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: you can undo it. So if you've made a mistake
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: or so, if you regret what you've written, you can
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: do something about it. I think there's someone who wishes
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: they'd had that opportunity.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Oh yes, A liberal MP down in Victoria, Wendy Lovell
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: sent thousands of emails to local constituents congratulating them on
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: becoming new citizens. The only problem was she sent it
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: to people who were born in Australia back.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: In the nineteen fifties.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: So you can imagine the sheer confusion when you receive
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: an equal from your local and b congrats on becoming
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: a citizen, but you were literally born in this country.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Do you awkward?
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's that is actually quite quite embarrassing. It
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: is right, Frank.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'd be excited if I got that Wendy.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: That's so hard cares about me. I mean, I think
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: this is what Tony Booke wanted to do. Be fun
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: of the future election. I'll just send emails out. Suddenly
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: everyone becomes a citizen. And I wonder when they found
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: out where they became a citizen, whether they were sent
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: to a gift, maybe a carton of cider or two.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Over in the UK, and you'll know, the Somerset in
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: particular is one of the areas well known for growing
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: the apples that are turned into cider. They've had such
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: a bumper apple season over in England that the apples
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: had a higher sugar content than normal, which is great,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: they're nice apples to eat, but of course the higher
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: sugar content when you're making cider means that sugar ferments
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: into alcohol, and so all the brewers in England have
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: turned out these really high alcohol ciders. And normally they
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: sell something that sort of between four and six percent alcohol,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: but they've been tuning out stuff that's like ten and
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: a half percent and they can't sell it to the pubs.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: The pubs won't take it because they say it's too alcoholic.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the issue is. I mean, put
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: it on a and send it to me, happily drink it.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: I continue. This just seems cruel. You've got the nicest
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: apples ever and they say no, we can't turn it
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: into cider. And all the sider we've turned it into.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Is no good produce as well.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Why I think, wait, Denik, I think you and I
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: need to go and fix this problem up. We need
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: to consume some of the products.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't drink cider. Sorry, sorry, Caleb, I don't
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: drink hot day. Apologies Caleb.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: But I guess it's all down to me. I don't
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: know if you're joining.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: I can go for a signer and even that alcoholic
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: I mean spirits and stuff away.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Well spirits, Yes.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: You don't have pie.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: It is pretty high for a sight, that's true.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Well, you know who probably doesn't need a cider? This koala?
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: Because I reckon they got up to mischief. Have a
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: look at this vision. This koala has walked into an
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: Ossie pub.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: How cute is it?
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: I think he wants to side, he wants to sider.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Maybe he found his way into the Queenscliff Family Hotel
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: at King's Scout, King's Cote on Kangaroo Islands is in
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: South Astra. I had a little walk around, checked out
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: the local produce. Maybe he checked in on the side
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: or as well, Caleb. I'm not too sure what he
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: was after there at the at the pub, but what
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: a cutie.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, because cos are already high all the time,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: and all the eucalyptus, yes, cheering away on. So why
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: not just d just.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Looking for a good time and blame the guy.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Go to Somerset, MA get your hands on some of
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: the side. Thanks for joining us this week. Up next,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: The Rid of Panic Show.