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KRAKEN WEEKLY: The young kids, Lane Lambert reaction, the Firebirds and mailbag (1/20) · Seattle Kraken Audio Network

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  Speaker 2: He scoress.
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  Speaker 3: When the space off dunshot save the can't rebound, he
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  Speaker 3: scores Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Done left circle shot right on turn aside scors Matty
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  Speaker 1: vanire Sjordan every both crashing the goal, Ben Myers hard
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  Speaker 1: off the in boards, Inner stops it.
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  Speaker 3: Now Myer's again right side star.
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  Speaker 1: Ben Myers from the right circle under the bar, over
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  Speaker 1: the shoulder, Bob Stewart's skinner, the Seattle cracket on.
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  Speaker 4: The board two to one, three forty eight left and
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  Speaker 4: Perry a number one. Well, last time this line was
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  Speaker 4: on the ice, I talked about this newly minted fourth
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  Speaker 4: line with Jaden Schwartz out there with Winterton and Myers
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  Speaker 4: and Schwartz doing some good pressure behind the Pittsburgh then
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  Speaker 4: picks up that Puck makes a great beat up to Myers.
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  Speaker 4: Meyer beats skinner blocker side just under the bar to one.
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  Speaker 3: This play. But this is why we're here for you, folks. Again.
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  Speaker 3: kjar dot com. The Kraken from the last time we
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  Speaker 3: spoke with you then played New Jersey, Boston, Utah, Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 3: three on the road, this one, this last game, opening
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  Speaker 3: a six game homestand and let's just say not exactly
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  Speaker 3: going to plan. Overtime loss at the Devils, back to
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  Speaker 3: back to back, three in a row losses here at Boston,
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  Speaker 3: Utah and at home against the Penguins. So cracking right now,
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  Speaker 3: fighting for dear life. Entering today, they are officially on
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  Speaker 3: the outside looking in at the wildcard spot, two points
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  Speaker 3: back of the Anaheim Ducks. And guess who's coming in
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  Speaker 3: later on this week? Yep, the Ducks as well. All
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  Speaker 3: wrapped around games against the New York Islanders, New Jersey Devils,
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  Speaker 3: and much more. Without further ado, time to bring in
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  Speaker 3: the all star crew ever written now, Fellas it was
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  Speaker 3: fun on the road. I think the winds would have
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  Speaker 3: been a lot even to make it a lot more
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  Speaker 3: fun as well. But I want to begin here name
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  Speaker 3: one thing we enjoyed off the ier from this previous
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  Speaker 3: road trip.
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  Speaker 5: The food. Yeah, too quickly.
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  Speaker 3: You can't beat Uncle Jackson Manhattan. I will say that
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  Speaker 3: you can't beat Uncle Jackson.
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  Speaker 5: The camaraderie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say the company. I'm gonna the company.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed getting you, getting you out the New York
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  Speaker 1: Mike trips to New York and MSG.
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  Speaker 2: When I when I first I did my first game.
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  Speaker 1: There, it was it was a close to a biblical
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  Speaker 1: experience for me inside the world's most famous arena, doing
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  Speaker 1: what we do for a living. You know, I think
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  Speaker 1: for you you obviously that first game in Staples Center
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  Speaker 1: was big. But growing up watching a lot of Knicks
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  Speaker 1: games and a lot of NBA on NBC and seeing
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  Speaker 1: that that arena, that was.
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  Speaker 5: Really cool for me.
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  Speaker 1: So to see you be able to work in that
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  Speaker 1: press box and the habit that was that was probably
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  Speaker 1: the company You and Al getting to hang out and
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  Speaker 1: doing all that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the company makes it all happen. You
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  Speaker 3: guys make it all happen. But I will say this,
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  Speaker 3: going into New York, man, that building an MSG, it
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  Speaker 3: just hits different. And what I love about it is
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  Speaker 3: that it's been renovated, but not to the point where
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  Speaker 3: you've scraped away the entire identity of what was say
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  Speaker 3: the seventies nixt the nineties, rangers, et cetera. You can
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  Speaker 3: still see parts of that building, a big crusty around
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  Speaker 3: the edge, just besides the renovated seats and luxury suites
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  Speaker 3: and whatnot. So that's just what made a pretty cool plus.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, man, the brand new press box and that
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I shouldn't say brand new, but sort of
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  Speaker 3: brand new. That gondola up there, it's one of the
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  Speaker 3: best views in the NHL period.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: We'll just start here with our opening thoughts, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to begin with trying to go down the road
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  Speaker 3: of matter of fact, the Seattle Kraken sent down Jacob
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  Speaker 3: Mallanson shortly before Thursday's game against Boston last Thursday. Ever
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  Speaker 3: since then, they're rowing three. They have a full lineup,
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  Speaker 3: but where's the identity? Beginning in mid December, the krack
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  Speaker 3: and trade of Mason marchmant and sent a new message
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  Speaker 3: that there are kids who have potentially a place in
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  Speaker 3: this lineup. Ty Cartier is right there, not so much
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  Speaker 3: a kid, but still a call up in Ben Myers,
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  Speaker 3: he's right there. Jacob Allanson then coming up hitting everything
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  Speaker 3: that moved as well. Lane Lambert called that line also responsible.
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  Speaker 3: That's how you earned trust. Eventually, Cartier was replaced by
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Winterton on that line, but yet that line continued
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  Speaker 3: to hit. They ford checked and they produce as well.
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  Speaker 3: And not only that, but they capture the entire imagination
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  Speaker 3: of fans in this entire area. They capture the attention
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  Speaker 3: of the national media as well, and last was certainly
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  Speaker 3: not least, they captured the attention of their own team.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, they gave them energy and energy can
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  Speaker 3: be an infectious thing. You just look at the record
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  Speaker 3: when that line was put together afterward eighth to two
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  Speaker 3: and ten games. Energy dragged this team right back into
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  Speaker 3: the playoff mix, where a month ago it seemed bleak.
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  Speaker 3: And this should be a message to anyone who suits up.
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  Speaker 3: The kids are waiting. They deserve to be up here,
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  Speaker 3: They need to be up here, and if you want
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  Speaker 3: clear direction and a winning path, eventually, my opinion, they
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  Speaker 3: are going to be up here. The only question is
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  Speaker 3: how soon can they get this back together, because there's
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  Speaker 3: absolutely positively zero way the chemistry and calculus of this
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  Speaker 3: lineup one to two weeks ago, in my opinion, results
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  Speaker 3: in sluggish and lagging play that we've seen that led
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  Speaker 3: here to this, And you can point no further than
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  Speaker 3: last night and what happened against the Pittsburgh Penguins. Guys,
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  Speaker 3: your opening thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: Spicy, spicy Mike, Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Mike, for me, I think I
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  Speaker 2: think you're spot on. You know, the Kraken. We're unfortunately
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  Speaker 2: in a bit of a no.
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  Speaker 1: Win situation with them being all healthy. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I love what Lane Lambert said the other day when
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  Speaker 1: he goes, I don't want to say that having everyone
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  Speaker 1: back healthy.
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  Speaker 2: As a problem, it's a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: But then also in that same breath, he pretty much
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  Speaker 1: told us, you know, we're kind of going back to
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  Speaker 1: to the beginning here because we're forty at the time,
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  Speaker 1: forty six games in something like that, and that was
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  Speaker 1: the first time that they've had a full lineup.
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  Speaker 2: So Lane Lambert was like, yeah, I gotta work.
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  Speaker 6: On this chemistry again. These guys got to get.
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  Speaker 2: Used to playing with one another again.
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  Speaker 1: And you're right, yes, the fourth line was was your
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  Speaker 1: best line and they were providing that energy. And to
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  Speaker 1: quote one of my earliest childhood crushes, Janet Jackson, what
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  Speaker 1: have you done for me lately? Well, lately that line
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  Speaker 1: has been your best line. But you have to get
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  Speaker 1: Chandler Stevenson back in. You have to get Brandon Montor
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  Speaker 1: back in. Jordan neverly missed those couple of games. You're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna sit those guys. And it's it's the unfortunate
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  Speaker 1: nature of our business that you know, certain guys are
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  Speaker 1: gonna play over other guys. And I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 1: they're not deserving. I don't want this to come off
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  Speaker 1: as me saying Stevenson and Montour and Emily and all
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  Speaker 1: those guys don't deserve to play. They're your best players
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  Speaker 1: for a reason. But when you've got a twenty three
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  Speaker 1: man roster, you can't carry twenty four. When you've got
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  Speaker 1: guys who have been vets in this league for years
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  Speaker 1: and have and have been through it, they're gonna play games.
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  Speaker 1: And you're right, the kids are here, the kids are coming.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you, play the kids. But unless a trade happens,
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  Speaker 1: unless there's another injury, that happens.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm being frank, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Not you know, I understand that I'm a company employee,
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  Speaker 1: so I got to watch what I can say a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more than you guys maybe do. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: unless that trade call is made, or unless an injury happens,
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  Speaker 1: which we're hoping for, not another long stretch of injuries.
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  Speaker 1: I think the crack and they've gotten their injuries out
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  Speaker 1: of the way for the year. Let's not have any
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  Speaker 1: more guys hurt unfortunately. You know you're going to see
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  Speaker 1: some really good players who maybe deserve another shot to play.
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  Speaker 6: Out of the lineup.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, A couple of things that stand out to me, Mike.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, I don't necessarily disagree with you with
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  Speaker 4: your opinion, especially even though that makes for a good conversation.
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  Speaker 4: I think that some combination of getting these kids back
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  Speaker 4: in the lineup is an important part of moving forward.
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  Speaker 4: But having said that, when I look at the last
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  Speaker 4: five games, a couple of things that stand out to me.
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  Speaker 4: Three of those games you get scored on shorthanded, three
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  Speaker 4: in a row. There's no verifiable evidence that this franchise
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  Speaker 4: has ever been scored on three games in a row shorthanded.
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  Speaker 4: And I cannot emphasize enough how much that takes the
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  Speaker 4: wind out of your sales from a player from a team,
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  Speaker 4: from a you know, a momentum standpoint in a game.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's not impossible, obviously, but it's hard to battle
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  Speaker 4: back from that, So that's number one. Number two is
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  Speaker 4: our goaltending, I think is the reason why this team
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  Speaker 4: is in a playoff position.
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  Speaker 5: You have to score goals, but this duo.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there are three goaltenders, but over the last
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  Speaker 4: five games, it's been Grubauer and Decord. This this duo
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  Speaker 4: has put this team in a position just about every
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  Speaker 4: game to win hockey games three to two, two to one,
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  Speaker 4: three to one, something like that. And over the last
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  Speaker 4: five games things haven't gone that way, two games in
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  Speaker 4: a row, losing six to three.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously some empty nitters in there, but.
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  Speaker 4: My point is is that this team relies on not good,
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  Speaker 4: but great goaltending to win hockey games, and they haven't
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  Speaker 4: had it over the last five. So in addition to
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  Speaker 4: playing the kids more, I think giving up shorthanded goals
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  Speaker 4: and goaltending that seems to have progressed a little bit
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  Speaker 4: over the last five is hurting this team right now.
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  Speaker 3: And I think this is certainly a good part of
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  Speaker 3: the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Yet I remember I was gonna say, yeah, we talked
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  Speaker 1: about that not too long ago, about your goltening has
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  Speaker 1: been your best player night in, night out. But it's
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  Speaker 1: almost unfair to heap all of that pressure on to
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  Speaker 1: decord At Grubauer, to have to go out and consistently
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  Speaker 1: throw out nine to fifty save percentages, to consistently have
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  Speaker 1: to shut down thirty or thirty two shots. At a
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  Speaker 1: certain point, you know, you gotta score goals. And Lane
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  Speaker 1: Lambert has said it multiple times. I want this team
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  Speaker 1: to be more selfish. I want these guys to shoot
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  Speaker 1: the puck more. He challenged Chandler Stevens and he's been
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  Speaker 1: finding the back of the net and be getting some
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  Speaker 1: points in recent games, and he's like, yeah, I want
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  Speaker 1: Chandler Stevenson to shoot the puck more. And then so
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  Speaker 1: taking pressure off of your goaltending, I think is going
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  Speaker 1: to be important as well as you move down or
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  Speaker 1: as you move along into these next eight games, if
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  Speaker 1: you include tomorrow night, eight games between now and the Olympic.
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  Speaker 3: Break, the goaltending part of this and the shorthanded goal
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  Speaker 3: part of this is going to be I think a
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  Speaker 3: big thing that we'll talk about here. But I want
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  Speaker 3: to go back to Lane Lambert and what he said
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  Speaker 3: after the game against Pittsburgh, and there's two parts of this.
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  Speaker 3: Number one it had to do with the shorthanded goal,
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  Speaker 3: and I think also number two with what he's looking
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  Speaker 3: for more out of this line up. Then here's Lane
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  Speaker 3: Lambert meeting with the media after last night.
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  Speaker 7: Coach talking about the shorthanded goals. Is there a common
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  Speaker 7: thread among the three that you've given up in the
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  Speaker 7: last three games, because I would think that might make
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  Speaker 7: it easier to correct or is it a bunch of
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  Speaker 7: different things or pucks bouncing off over sticks? Is there
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  Speaker 7: something that you see that is correctable.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's always correctable.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 8: We you know, we have a face off battle in
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  Speaker 8: Utah the other day and they end up coming out
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  Speaker 8: of that with a three on two. We play that
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  Speaker 8: very poorly tonight. You know, we knew that they were
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  Speaker 8: locking their bench side with their forward and their forward
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  Speaker 8: was going to step and that was pre scouted for
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  Speaker 8: our players.
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  Speaker 2: That was indicated to them.
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  Speaker 8: They saw a video on it, and they stepped, got
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  Speaker 8: a breakaway, So we got.
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  Speaker 2: To be better.
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  Speaker 3: That was a short hand of goal. And here's Lane
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  Speaker 3: Lambert Now as far as has view in the lineup,
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  Speaker 3: the guys got it.
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  Speaker 2: Within one on the power play and the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 6: Would you maybe wanted to see to you know, try to.
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  Speaker 2: Fill the result.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I thought, you know, when we got it within one,
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  Speaker 8: I just didn't think we for checked. Well, I thought
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  Speaker 8: we were not connected enough. Whether it was a lack
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  Speaker 8: of energy from coming off a road trip, I don't know,
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  Speaker 8: you know, but I just didn't think there was a
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  Speaker 8: lot of connectivity to our game, and as a result,
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  Speaker 8: we allowed them to break out of their zone too quickly.
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  Speaker 8: You know, we we got back into it, so to speak,
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  Speaker 8: where we had an opportunity to pull our goalie, and
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  Speaker 8: we took ourselves right back out of it with a
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  Speaker 8: failed breakout.
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  Speaker 9: Coach, you kind of mentioned yesterday that there might be
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  Speaker 9: some mixing up of the lines today, and sure enough,
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  Speaker 9: Jane Schwartz was for a lot of the game on
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  Speaker 9: the fourth line. How did you like that combo? I
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  Speaker 9: mean they can averted for two goals. How'd you like
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  Speaker 9: him playing with those two?
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  Speaker 2: I liked.
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  Speaker 8: I liked the fourth line. I'd like the fourth line
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  Speaker 8: for a while. You know, we need the other lines
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  Speaker 8: to be better.
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  Speaker 3: So this is what I think, beginning part one, what
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  Speaker 3: frustrates a lot of fans here, And I'll go back
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  Speaker 3: here to the short handed goal. Chandler Stevenson who's been
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  Speaker 3: great at producing offense, and we all know how well
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  Speaker 3: he is that at the face off circle he had
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  Speaker 3: a clear giveaway and the Connor do Or turnover and
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  Speaker 3: then boom, a shorthanded goal. This isn't Lane Lambert singling
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  Speaker 3: one guy out, but across the board, it's sending a
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  Speaker 3: clear message here to everyone else, because aside here from
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  Speaker 3: the Ben Meyers line, he said, everyone's got to be better.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you think I'm making this up here, folks,
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  Speaker 3: I mean at first off one coach said it to
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  Speaker 3: look at the metrics here from last night five on
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  Speaker 3: five shot attempts Schwartz, Meyers, Winterton nine to three in
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  Speaker 3: their favor. Everyone else, Cock Openeer's every outshot nine to two,
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  Speaker 3: Tolben and Stevenson, Goudrou outshot eleven to five, McCann, Wright
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  Speaker 3: Catton outshot five to one. Then there's the the zillion
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  Speaker 3: other line combos that Lane Lambert tried last night in
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  Speaker 3: the Blender, who said, I mean, it's like training camp
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  Speaker 3: all over again, with a lineup that really hasn't been
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  Speaker 3: much in place here since about untill roughly three games ago.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, hey, when you chase the NHL bottom line,
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  Speaker 3: you teen fade too much. And I think this is
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  Speaker 3: the most candid we've ever heard and seen Lane Lambert,
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  Speaker 3: who's prest accountability from day one, culture from day one,
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  Speaker 3: but he's working with a lot of moving parts right now, guys.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's frustrated, Mike.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's frustrated that he's seen this team at
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  Speaker 4: their best and what they can do. And when you
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  Speaker 4: don't see that, you're disappointed, you're frustrated.
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  Speaker 5: So I get it.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's not necessarily one thing, but it always
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  Speaker 4: starts with leadership. If your leaders aren't going, it's tough
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  Speaker 4: to have success in this league. So it's always going
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  Speaker 4: to start from leadership, and then you look for more,
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  Speaker 4: and certainly the fourth line is one area you look
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  Speaker 4: for for more. But when the fourth line is doing
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  Speaker 4: the best they can do and contributing, but there are
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  Speaker 4: other pieces that are missing, again, that's frustrating.
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  Speaker 5: So I get his position on those questions. I think
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  Speaker 5: it starts there.
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  Speaker 4: I think it spreads beyond in terms of, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the starts have not been good over this these last
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  Speaker 4: five uh, for whatever reason. And and and you know
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  Speaker 4: Lane will say, is it fixable? Yeah, it's fixable. But
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  Speaker 4: he can't fix it. The players have to fix it,
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  Speaker 4: right So until they decide to come out with an
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  Speaker 4: intensity that outmatches the team they're going against, until they
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  Speaker 4: decide to uh punish the team physically in the first
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  Speaker 4: five to seven minutes, especially at home, to get the
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  Speaker 4: crowd behind it, until they decide to not give up
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  Speaker 4: the first or second goals of the of the game. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: those bad starts are going to continue, and and those
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  Speaker 4: are a couple of areas where you can change that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for me listening to that, it goes
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  Speaker 1: back to a lot of what we talk about. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there really aren't egregious mistakes. These are These are small
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  Speaker 1: areas that you know you're forty five games in and
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  Speaker 1: you can hear in his voice like, guys, we shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be doing this forty five games in, right that That
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  Speaker 1: That's what I That's what I heard from from Lane
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  Speaker 1: in those comments. And I think the frustration of hey,
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  Speaker 1: we knew what they were going to do on the PK,
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  Speaker 1: we watched it, we knew this was coming, and we
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  Speaker 1: fell into that trap, right That is? That is uh,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: you know, the laps of the judgment. Whatever you want
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: to call it momentary lapse of judgment. This isn't a
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: bad hockey team, but this team more often than not,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: will let one mistake, two mistakes.
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: End up in the back of their net.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: And we've seen that, whether that be some bad passes
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: from the defensive zone.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: All of these things are fixable. All of these things
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: are fixable.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: And you know, I don't have the comments in front
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: of me, but he a couple of games ago, I
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: think Mikey you you tweeted it out about the mentality,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: you know, about coming out four or five shifts later
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: and having that same mentality.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: After the Utah game.
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the Utah game.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when when Winterton and Myers and Milansen were together.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I remember listening to a couple of folks online, the
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Daily Face Off people. They were talking about how that
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: line was the identity line, and that line the way
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: that they played. You're hoping that that filters into the
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: rest of your lineup and the rest of your team,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: and I don't think we've seen that in the last
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: couple of outings for Seattle.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: More deep stuff here, and we're gonna get back to goaltending.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Let's just kind of compare the numbers since out of
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: the Christmas break because they are what they are right now.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Philip Grubauer seven games say percentage nine to two five,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Joey Decord six games say percentage eight eighty four. I
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: think paraphrasing this lane Lambert wasn't too thrilled at some
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: of the goals that were led in, especially by Decord,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: And I think you had to kind of look at
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: this here from a contextual matter. Was a topable shot?
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Was he screen? Was it deflected here? But guys, where
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: are we at with goltending right now, at this clear
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: and present day.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike, I looked at the last five games for
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: each goaltender. Of those five or of those ten five
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: for each goaltender, six of them have had save percentages
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: below nine hundred. And again I go back to my
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: previous comment. For this team to win, our goaltenders need
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: to be in the nine hundreds just to have a
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: chance at winning. Now when they drop, when they drop
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: below that, you'd love to see this team step up
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: and say, don't worry, Joey, don't worry, Phil, we got you.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: We're gonna put five or six in tonight and we'll
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: win six, five, five four.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: But I don't you can count on that very often.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: So if these goaltenders aren't playing above nine hundred save percentages,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: it just doesn't put this team in a position to
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: win hockey games. That's number one. Number two is specifically
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: in the game against Pittsburgh, I looked at three of
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: the five goals. There was a nineteen netter as well,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: but three of the five goals there were shots that
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: went through screens. Now you can say, as a goaltender,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: I couldn't see the puck, and at least on one
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: of them, you could see Joey looking left, looking right,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: trying to see around the screen. And at a certain point,
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: and I have this from talking to goaltenders, at a
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: certain point, when you can't see the shot coming, all
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: you can do is anticipate when it's coming, listen for
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: the sound, and then get into the butterfly position. Well,
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: what happens when you go into the butterfly position, Both
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: top corners are wide open.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: That's where those goals were scored.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: So I'm not putting it on Joey decord that three
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: of those five goals were his fault.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: They were screens.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: My point is is that when this goltening duo, and
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: eventually the trio isn't able to keep the same percentage
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: above nine hundred.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: They don't put this team in the position to win
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: hockey games.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know this, It's it's very unfortunate because it's
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: almost as if our goaltending, this team's goaltending, is not allowed.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: To have a bad day.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: They're not allowed to have a slump.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: And that's unfortunate because, like, how many times have we
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: talked about players not scoring, you know, to two guys
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: in particular, Jade Schwartz is on a nine game point round.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Shane Wright gotten assists, He's got five points his last
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: twenty three games, right but other players are picking them up.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to call.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Those guys out, you know, specifically, but those are the
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: two that are the top of my mind right now.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Goaltending guys are gonna slump, you know, even the even
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: andre Vassilevski, even Igorsky, even the best goaltenders that we
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: have in our league, Jay otten Erconnor Hellibuk, even those
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: guys are going to have a down week or a
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: down month, and but they've got the pieces around them
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: to pick them up.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: And we and we've said it before.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: This is not me talking smack like this is this
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: has been said from coaches and players. Our goaltenders have
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: to be our best players, and I think that sometimes
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: can be a little bit of an unfair.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Weight to put.
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: On them eighty two times a year.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Year.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: You need a Patrick Wavian goaltending performance in order to
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: win three to two, Right, Like, at a certain point,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: we're gonna need four goals, We're gonna need five goals.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: We're gonna need You know, the Kracking have given up
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: twelve goals in the last two games. Right, They've been
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: outscored twelve to six in the last two games.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: It would be nice if the Cracking could.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Outscore a team twelve to six over a two game stretch, right,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: That would be nicest, Right, But it's just not how
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: this team is constructed. We've talked about the offensive struggles
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: all season long. It's just not this team. So it
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: is the unfortunate weight that the goaltenders have to bear.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: And I say all of this to say, Joey Decord
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: in the last couple of games is probably going through
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: an average normal slump that anybody in the course of
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: an eighty two game season will go through right. This
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: is nothing egregious. This isn't like man Joey Decord has washed,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: you know. This is this is Joey Decord playing in
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: January with you know, twenty some odds starts under his belt.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: He's going to get back, He's gonna get back to
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: playing the way that we've seen him play all year long.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: But it's just magnified because the cracking had been losing games.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Before we get to break here, I want to check
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: in here on the power play because they have been
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: terrific and I think they deserve a lot as far
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: as the spotlight on them, because since December one, thirty
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: point eight percent, the only better team in the NHL
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: in that span is the Edmonton Oilers at thirty five
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: point five. Chris Taylor is helping steer that wheel right now,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: deserving a lot of praise. They are not just producing,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: but delivering in key moments. And I think on the
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: flip side, the shorthanded goals, yeah, it's a rash that's
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: got to stop here, but overall they are producing. I
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: go back and look here at the point man for
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: powerplay ice time, and this is where it gets interesting.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: The Boston game vin'ce done powerplay ice time two forty
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: eight Brandon Montour three twelve. This coincided with the re
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: turned a Montor here to the lineup Utah game, Vin's
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: done two fifteen Montor a shade below him at two
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: oh eight. Last game against Pittsburgh, Vin's done two thirty
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: three random Montur two fifty. I'm posing this in this matter.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Do we think there's a conversation merited about how the
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: number two unit or parts of it are now being
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: used more and deservedly?
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I think you're always trying to stack your
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: top unit as much as possible, Mikey. I think they, uh,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: you know, that's your best shot of scoring on the
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: power play. Not because the first half of the power
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: play is better than the second half of the power play.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: It's just that that first unit tends to stay on
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: the ice longer. That first unit. You know, if they
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: don't get up ice right away, but it's later in
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: the first minute that they finally get some sustained ozone
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: time at you know, fifty seconds, sixty seconds, they're going
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: to keep going. So now you're pushing into a minute,
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: minute and a half. That second unit just doesn't have
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: as much time. So I like the idea of stacking
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: your first unit. I don't think our first unit is stacked.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: If you were, you probably would have Montour and Done
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: together out there a couple of big shots. That's my
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: comment on personnel, but I also have comments on.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: The approach to the power play.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: I still don't think they're shooting the puck enough, and
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: it seems like when they do shoot the puck. We
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: saw Jared mccannon shoot the puck in the Pittsburgh game
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: on the power play, and Stewart Skinner could see the
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: shot the entire way comes out, takes out the angles,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: makes a good say, no traffic in front? Saw done
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: do it a couple of times, same thing, no traffic
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: in front. But when there is traffic, it seems like
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: this team doesn't shoot the puck. And obviously there's a
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: fear of it going off a shin pad and giving
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: up a shorthand and break away.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: I get that, but.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: It's putting the pucks past the shin pads, as we
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: saw Pittsburgh do three times in that game, that often
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: result in either goal or or skirmishes in front they
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: can can turn into goals.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think as far as the power play goals,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I mean power play goes.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: It's it's shooting.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: And again I say it all the time. I hate
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: to be the guy six cors lights in in the
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: fifth row. But you're seeing the Kraken shoot the puck more,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: whether it's from the point, whether it's McCann getting that
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: shot off. And and we've said, you know this team's
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: gonna score by going to the net. Shoot the puck,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: go to the net, jam it off someone's face, I mean,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: or off someone's backside, off someone's leg, off a shin.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: We asked Lane Lambert about two weeks ago, three weeks
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: ago what the change was on the power play, and
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: he was kind of cagy. He was a little cooie
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: about He was like, I'm not gonna tell you what
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: this change was, but we get changed.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: I was like, okay, sounds good, but but I'm not
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: gonna argue with you.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: But no, out you're right, like I think the Kraken
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: if they loaded up that top power play unit with
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: with a dum and.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: I'm on tour two of your shooters, and then you
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: give that.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Second power play to Riker Evans and because they're only
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: getting forty seconds and you think about it, right, So,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: but no, I like the direction the power play is going.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: In the penalty kill, I feel like has been making
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: improvements in spurts a little bit. You know that they'll
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: go pretty well and then they'll give up a couple
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: that you like to see not go in and they go,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: you know, back to playing pretty well for the next
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: four or five games. But you know, as as far
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: as the power play goals goes, that's one of those
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: areas that I think if we want to keep seeing
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: this team stay in the fight, you need one of
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: those units. You can't have two bad special teams units.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: And right now your power play has been giving you
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: some much needy goals.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: So just one comment on goal scoring because I want
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: to I want to time my previous comments about needing
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: to score four or more to having success, and part
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: of that is the power play.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: But the last time.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: This team scored four goals in regulation was Big Boston
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: wins seven to four, And you could say seven goals
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: is a lot of goals.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: Maybe that's an anomaly game.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: But prior to that, you have to look back to
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: December fourth against Edmonton and it was a four to
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: one win where this team scored four goals in regulation.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Now what I mean is there were no empty net goals.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: There are a lot of goals or a lot of
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: games where there were wins where they were empty net goals,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: and it ended up being four total, but four that
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: don't include an empty net goal that goes back.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: To December fourth.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: So my point is that when you look at the
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: wins throughout the year, other than a small handful, this
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: team needs to keep the goals against at three or less,
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: and when they don't, whether that's the goaltender's fault, whether
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: that's screens, whether it's the player's fault, whether it's the
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: coach's fault, they oftentimes are not in a position to win.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: This cracking team is a three to two team. This
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: is a two to one, three to two hockey team.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: This isn't a five to four team, This isn't a
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: four to three team. This is a three to two
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: team and win. And by all account it seems like
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: they have been pretty comfortable. But when they get comfortable
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: realizing it's not always going to be sexy, it's not
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: always going to be pretty, you're allowed to win games three.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: To one, and you're right fits it's not fair to
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: blame the goaltenders. They're allowed to have a bad night
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: as well, and you know when they can't see shots
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: coming through. My point was is that Joey Decord didn't
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: necessarily play bad in that Pittsburgh loss.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: He just couldn't see the bucks.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: So if they're if the goaltenders can't keep this team
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: at three goals against or less, they're often not.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: In a position to win. That's just the reality.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: We have to get to break here because we have
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Evan Pivnick coming up, but again our Crack and Whetley
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: poll question, who's next to get called up from Coachella Valley.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Vote right now at x AD Krack and audio and
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: as a Jacob Alanson or Jagger Fergus or Oscar Fisko
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Mulgard or someone else, vote right now. Evan Pivnik right
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: around the corner right here on ninety three three k JRFM.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: A lot to talk about here with Coachella Valley's six
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: points clear of the cut line heading into this part
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: of the season and without further ado. Joining us right
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: now is broadcast voice Ethan Pevnik for the Coachella Valley Firebirds.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Piv and enjoined some fun in the sun right now
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: and also some Firebirds wins on top of that. How
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: are you, man?
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I'm doing great.
• 30:14
  Speaker 10: Those two paired together, I think, uh make for a
• 30:17
  Speaker 10: great couple of winter months, if we can call it
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: a winter.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I see your I see your your social media posts
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: every now and again, and it's just sunny. You're outside
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: and in a Firebirds jersey promoting Pride night. You got
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: a little glisten of sweat because it's a little warmed eye.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I always have a glisten of sweat.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: How many times have you made it into the office
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: in flip lops like Dan Bilsman used to tell us
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: he used to do.
• 30:42
  Speaker 10: I hate my I hate my feet, So not very often,
• 30:47
  Speaker 10: but you know what I've I've thought about it before.
• 30:50
  Speaker 10: I probably have done it a couple of times because
• 30:51
  Speaker 10: I if here's here's here's a flexment for you guys,
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: I will do it if I'm like playing golf later
• 30:57
  Speaker 10: in the day and I need to pop it.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Down nice, you know.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: But I don't do that very often.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Past a halfway point of the season, PIV. What are
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: we learning about this team, the kids and where Derek
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Laxtall's taking them?
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: I think one thing we've learned is it's a resilient team.
• 31:14
  Speaker 10: And whether that is because of the inexperience for a
• 31:18
  Speaker 10: lot of these players or just the overall character, could
• 31:22
  Speaker 10: be a combination of the two. But it feels like
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: every time the Firebirds are down in a game, they
• 31:26
  Speaker 10: don't get down on themselves. They kind of just go
• 31:28
  Speaker 10: out and say, Okay, well, you know what, we have
• 31:31
  Speaker 10: X amount of time left in this game. Let's go
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: out and make the most of it. And we've seen
• 31:34
  Speaker 10: them come back from multi goal deficits a bunch this year,
• 31:37
  Speaker 10: and it's it's different guys that step up too. I
• 31:40
  Speaker 10: think the Firebirds were struggling about three weeks ago and
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: and kind of at the core of their heartbeat was
• 31:47
  Speaker 10: was a fourth line, kind of similar to how the
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: Kraken were. Their fourth line was keeping them moving until
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: the other guys kind of found their groove once again.
• 31:55
  Speaker 10: Getting Yannie Newman back down and him getting acclimated was
• 31:58
  Speaker 10: a big help. And again, Jagger Fercus and Logan Morrison
• 32:01
  Speaker 10: are just having fantastic seasons. You paired that with Oscar
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: Fisker Molgard who's doing your great job as well, And
• 32:08
  Speaker 10: of course you know, John Hayden has been a guy
• 32:09
  Speaker 10: who's been down the majority of the year and has
• 32:12
  Speaker 10: just kind of made the most of it. So it's
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: been really good to see everyone come together. And then defensively,
• 32:18
  Speaker 10: you know, Tyson jug Nath has been doing his thing.
• 32:20
  Speaker 10: He's just been so consistent for Coachella Valley this season,
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: and goaltending has been top notch too.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get to some prospects here in a bit,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: but I think the obvious question off the bat is
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: people who have been watching Yanni Newman, people who've been
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: watching Jacob Allanson, they know what they're all about. At
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: the NHL level. The question is how much more can
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: they refine their game right now or how much can
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: they hold firm until the numbers called right back up
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: again once a roster spot opens. So I mean Yannie Newman,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I mean well deserved for AHL Player of the Week honors.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Three straight games with two goals, and my goodness, it's
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: like it doesn't matter where he's fighting a way to
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: score a goal. Evan with a shot going to the
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: front of the net. Jacob Allanson, I wish hits were tracking.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: AHL stats don't make this possible. He too at this
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: present day, but one assist since coming back, five shots
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: as well in two games since coming back. What do
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: we make so far out of Newman and Malanson while
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: they're there right now?
• 33:13
  Speaker 10: I think Newman took a little bit of time to
• 33:14
  Speaker 10: acclimate back. I think the main thing was just the
• 33:18
  Speaker 10: time on ice was a big differentiator for him. You know,
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: he came in this season not playing a ton of
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: minutes each game with the Kraken, and then he went
• 33:26
  Speaker 10: from playing a few minutes to not playing at all,
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: and then all of a sudden, his first game back
• 33:30
  Speaker 10: down here, I think he played, you know, at least
• 33:33
  Speaker 10: fifteen minutes, and I think he felt it a little bit.
• 33:35
  Speaker 10: So it took a little bit for him to get acclimated.
• 33:38
  Speaker 10: But you know what, once he does, he's a goal scorer.
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: He's a guy who just goes in and puts the
• 33:41
  Speaker 10: puck in the back of the net, no matter how
• 33:43
  Speaker 10: it is. He had a power play goal in his
• 33:46
  Speaker 10: first game, but I think his leg has kind of
• 33:48
  Speaker 10: caught up to him a bit. He was minus five
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: in that game too, but he since has adjusted. He's
• 33:54
  Speaker 10: been a plus seven over his last four games mentioned
• 33:58
  Speaker 10: six goals and assist as well, AHL Player of the Week.
• 34:01
  Speaker 10: So he's just he's just finding ways to hit the
• 34:03
  Speaker 10: back of the net and he's been really sharp.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: And you talked about Jacob Allanson.
• 34:06
  Speaker 10: He's a guy who I think has come back and
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: he's just been a better version of himself since his
• 34:13
  Speaker 10: call up in the NHL. And that will do it
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: for you, right, you know, you get your confidence back,
• 34:16
  Speaker 10: you get big time minutes, you get higher responsibilities, better responsibilities,
• 34:22
  Speaker 10: and I think he came back and really is you know,
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: I'm I'm sure the conversation between him and you know,
• 34:30
  Speaker 10: the crack and hockey ops, you know, Jason Botral and
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: Ron Francis, I'm sure it was a great conversation. You know,
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: it probably met me like the way he probably left
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: that meeting. I'm sure he felt great. Right, Hey, we
• 34:41
  Speaker 10: we love to keep it right now, but hey, contracts
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: and waivers and whatnot. Go down and do your thing
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: with with the Firebirds a place where he's comfortable playing
• 34:50
  Speaker 10: without a doubt.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: You know what.
• 34:52
  Speaker 10: He he's just he's been awesome. He's you know, I
• 34:56
  Speaker 10: don't know if there's a little ship on his shoulder.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there is.
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: Right, Whenever you get sent down, you're you want to
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: show people that you belong and you know, he's come
• 35:03
  Speaker 10: in hit everything that moves, He's you know, had a
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: couple of assists. He just makes things happen, and that's
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: he's doing the same exact thing as he did up
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: in the NHL.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: His game doesn't change with Jannie Newman. What were the
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: things that they sent.
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: Him down to work on.
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: I think one of the biggest things is trusting the shot.
• 35:18
  Speaker 10: I think confidence is the biggest thing for Yanni and
• 35:21
  Speaker 10: I'm sure for any young player who has scored so much,
• 35:25
  Speaker 10: and I think we see it a lot with the
• 35:27
  Speaker 10: guys coming from junior. I know he came from overseas
• 35:29
  Speaker 10: in Finland, but you go from being the guy right
• 35:33
  Speaker 10: and you're expected to be a contributing player when you
• 35:37
  Speaker 10: get to the American Hockey League. Things are different though,
• 35:40
  Speaker 10: because everyone in the league, for the most part, was
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: the guy at one point. But you know, it took
• 35:46
  Speaker 10: Gianni a little bit to figure out last year too,
• 35:48
  Speaker 10: once he started playing a little bit adjusted, and then
• 35:50
  Speaker 10: he ended up scoring twenty eight goals and becoming an
• 35:52
  Speaker 10: All Star and one of the best rookies in the league.
• 35:56
  Speaker 10: But it's just a little bit of confidence for him,
• 35:58
  Speaker 10: and I think when he plays more, he plays consistently,
• 36:01
  Speaker 10: that's when we see the best of Yonnie Newman.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: We're starting to see it right now.
• 36:04
  Speaker 10: And hopefully if he gets call up another call up
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: this year, which we hope he does, he steps up
• 36:09
  Speaker 10: and keep keeps that confidence up to the NHL level.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Evan Pivnick joining us right now on the Beacon Plumbing hotline,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: and I want to get to Oscar Fisker Moleguard here.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Evan twenty one points in thirty four games, and people
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: who might look at surface numbers might say, well, ho hum,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: and he's got points now in three straight games. But
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I think we learned a little bit more with Fisker
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Moleguard at the NHL level with the right kind of
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: role and the right kind of fit for him, and
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: how he's able to adapt to the pace of the
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: NHL and then help find a way to generate momentum,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: if not scoring opportunities at the NHL level. So what
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: do the numbers say about him, but also the play
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: under the hood say about him right.
• 36:53
  Speaker 10: Now, I think he's one of the smartest players on
• 36:55
  Speaker 10: the roster. I think you look at it from you know,
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: you mentioned points, points are what they are, right, and
• 37:01
  Speaker 10: there are times where he'll set up a play and
• 37:02
  Speaker 10: if they gave you know, third assists on a play,
• 37:06
  Speaker 10: then you could probably chock him up for another ten
• 37:07
  Speaker 10: points or so. He is just an incredibly smart player.
• 37:11
  Speaker 10: And you can see that experience that he got from
• 37:14
  Speaker 10: playing in the SHL orright, he played a few years there,
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: and that's playing against men and since an eighteen nineteen
• 37:19
  Speaker 10: year old kid playing against guys who are you know,
• 37:22
  Speaker 10: matured and and bigger and stronger and smarter, and I
• 37:26
  Speaker 10: think that helped him so much in his development and
• 37:29
  Speaker 10: that's why I think he's developed to this point where
• 37:31
  Speaker 10: he can play in the National Hockey League and make
• 37:33
  Speaker 10: an impact. You know, he's a key player on the
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: palty kill, key player and the power play. He's just
• 37:39
  Speaker 10: a guy that you want to have on your team
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: and into in difficult situations because he can get the
• 37:45
  Speaker 10: job done.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: He doesn't freak out about it.
• 37:46
  Speaker 10: He kind of just takes it as a calm approach
• 37:49
  Speaker 10: to everything he does. And he's also he's a great
• 37:53
  Speaker 10: kid as well. He's great for the guys to have
• 37:54
  Speaker 10: in the locker room. He's a calming presence, that's sure,
• 37:58
  Speaker 10: and Tyler how vocal he is, but he's kind of
• 38:01
  Speaker 10: a leader by example, especially for these younger guys from.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: What you've seen, Evan, what in your mind is the
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: gap between an Oscar Fisker Moligard, a Jacob Malanson, a
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Yannie Newman, the Jagger Furcus? What's their gap between playing
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: in the AHL and playing in the NHL. And I
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: asked that because I was talking to a fan the
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: other day and a big baseball guy, and he was,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to he explain to me how Triple
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: A Baseball versus the Mariners work.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: And you know, I was telling.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Him the exact same thing about the AHL and Berth
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: the NHL. But when you're looking at that gap between
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: an everyday NHL player and an everyday AHL player or
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: or fringe guy in AHL versus NHL, what.
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: In your mind is the is the difference?
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: What what is that X factor why Malanson and Fisker,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Mouligard need to go up and down versus why they
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: just can't stay.
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: Here at the NHL level.
• 38:57
  Speaker 10: I think the biggest thing is waiting for their right
• 39:01
  Speaker 10: time to shine. It's opportunity and I think that's why
• 39:04
  Speaker 10: you see it when when guys go to different teams,
• 39:06
  Speaker 10: guys get traded and you know, change of scenery and whatnot.
• 39:09
  Speaker 10: You sometimes see guys perform way better than they did
• 39:12
  Speaker 10: even though they were on you know, playing the third line,
• 39:14
  Speaker 10: but now they're up to the second line and getting
• 39:16
  Speaker 10: better opportunities, playing more minutes, playing more consistently. You know,
• 39:21
  Speaker 10: that's that's the tough thing when you look at what
• 39:23
  Speaker 10: the Kraken can do. When a guy like if they
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: call Jagger Fercus up, where does he fit in in
• 39:29
  Speaker 10: the lineup? When Jacob Malonson goes up and plays in
• 39:31
  Speaker 10: the fourth line, that's his style of play. It's not
• 39:34
  Speaker 10: necessarily the same style of play as if you call
• 39:36
  Speaker 10: it Jagger Fercus. He's not going to be that fourth
• 39:38
  Speaker 10: line guy. So you want to be able to slot
• 39:40
  Speaker 10: him in where you can and be the most have
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: the most success when he's in that role. You know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 10: Oscar Fisker molg are the same way. He's not a
• 39:47
  Speaker 10: fourth line grinder. He could play a little bit more
• 39:50
  Speaker 10: of a tougher role if he needs to, but he's
• 39:52
  Speaker 10: a guy who needs to be second first line power
• 39:55
  Speaker 10: play minutes and whatnot. But I think that's kind of
• 39:59
  Speaker 10: the gap is just more so the opportunity than the skill.
• 40:02
  Speaker 10: You put yourself in the right situation, you're gonna score points.
• 40:05
  Speaker 10: I mean you you know, Fits, you know, I haven't
• 40:08
  Speaker 10: never seen you.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Play hockey, but you don't want to.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you're, oh, but it would make for
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: great content though the people.
• 40:16
  Speaker 10: Yes, if you're But if you're on the first line,
• 40:19
  Speaker 10: you know, first unit power play, standing in front of
• 40:21
  Speaker 10: the net, you're gonna get a couple points here and
• 40:22
  Speaker 10: there if you just plant yourself there, right, yep, one
• 40:25
  Speaker 10: way or another.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying.
• 40:29
  Speaker 10: Clause I saying, everet Fits you can play in the
• 40:30
  Speaker 10: National Hockey League.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: But that's what I'm hearing. But that's that's what sources
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: are saying.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: That ever said.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: But that's that's the point I'm trying to make.
• 40:39
  Speaker 10: Right, You're out there with your top line guys who
• 40:41
  Speaker 10: can make things happen, and it's a little bit more
• 40:43
  Speaker 10: of a situational thing than than a skill thing. Granted,
• 40:47
  Speaker 10: you have to be an exceptional athlete, an exceptional player
• 40:50
  Speaker 10: to be in the National Hockey League, right, That's why
• 40:52
  Speaker 10: it's the best league in the world. But there are
• 40:54
  Speaker 10: scenarios where guys are put into positions to succeed, and
• 40:57
  Speaker 10: I think the Kraken deaf we take that into consideration
• 41:01
  Speaker 10: of calling these guys up and going.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Up and down.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: So in that same vein, then we've seen Malanson at
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Vister Molgard, We've saw Logan Morrison, We've seen Villie Odovinen,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: we've seen Yannie Newman of the nick A Coco came
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: up last year for a bit, as well of the
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: guys the Krack, And haven't seen in your mind who's
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: next up? Who were you looking at on a daily
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: basis and saying, just give this kid a chance and
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: we'll never see him back down here again.
• 41:33
  Speaker 10: I'll say, one who has gotten a call up but
• 41:36
  Speaker 10: it hasn't gotten a call up in a bit is
• 41:38
  Speaker 10: Logan Morrison, who I think is flying under the radar
• 41:40
  Speaker 10: right now because of his line made success in Jagger
• 41:43
  Speaker 10: Fercus and how anticipated Jagger Fergus's arrival to pro hockey
• 41:46
  Speaker 10: has been. You know, he scored, you know, Fercus scored
• 41:49
  Speaker 10: by seventy five goals that last year in junior and
• 41:52
  Speaker 10: obviously a lot of weight on his shoulders coming into
• 41:54
  Speaker 10: his rookie year trying to repeat that and now he's
• 41:56
  Speaker 10: kind of figured things out. But Logan Morrison has kind
• 41:59
  Speaker 10: of flown under their radar a little bit in terms
• 42:01
  Speaker 10: of his his points. He has twenty goals this year,
• 42:03
  Speaker 10: he leads the Firebirds and goals. He's now eleventh in
• 42:07
  Speaker 10: league scoring. He was in TEMP yesterday thirty six points
• 42:10
  Speaker 10: in thirty seven games. It's just a solid, skilled player
• 42:14
  Speaker 10: who I think can really make an impact in the
• 42:16
  Speaker 10: National Hockey League have given that same opportunity, So I
• 42:19
  Speaker 10: wouldn't say it's it's kind of a newer guy, but
• 42:21
  Speaker 10: a guy who has gotten a call up to the
• 42:23
  Speaker 10: National Hockey League before but hasn't in a bit, so
• 42:25
  Speaker 10: I think he's He's kind of my pick right now.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Jagger Furcus and Tyson Jugnauth will also be gartering plenty
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: of attention because during the Olympic break they'll be going
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: to the AHL All Star Classic in Rockford this next month.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Fergus right now is the leading score on the Firebirds,
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: and Tyson Jugnath what he is doing to I think
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: open the doors for his future on the Crack and
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Blue line. My goodness, twenty eight points in thirty seven
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: games and he's your leading rookies score right now on
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: the Firebirds PIV. What a separation geting Jagger Furcus and
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Tyson jugnaff from making the big club and sticking there
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: down the road.
• 43:06
  Speaker 10: I think right now is the lack of roster space.
• 43:08
  Speaker 10: I think that's the biggest one, you know what, I
• 43:11
  Speaker 10: think there's there's always kind of been this conversation that
• 43:14
  Speaker 10: defensemen need more time than forwards to develop. And I
• 43:17
  Speaker 10: think that's a case by case basis, but I think
• 43:19
  Speaker 10: around the league, especially over the last you know, last
• 43:22
  Speaker 10: while once you know, development in the American Hockey League
• 43:25
  Speaker 10: has been more of a focus. It's always been, well,
• 43:29
  Speaker 10: a defenseman needs three to four years, three to five
• 43:31
  Speaker 10: years to develop. One thing about Tyson Jugnat, although he
• 43:35
  Speaker 10: you know, he's in the WHL. Last year he's the
• 43:37
  Speaker 10: WHL Defenseman of the Year, keep in mind that Tyson
• 43:40
  Speaker 10: Jugnav also played a season with the University of Wisconsin.
• 43:44
  Speaker 10: So he is a guy that has a little bit
• 43:47
  Speaker 10: more of a structure in terms of development, because college
• 43:52
  Speaker 10: develops a little bit differently than the WHL.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Does.
• 43:54
  Speaker 10: You play less games, it's more time in the gym,
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: more time in practice, more structure than in the w
• 44:01
  Speaker 10: h L in terms of how they prepare. So if
• 44:03
  Speaker 10: you're Tyson Dugnath, when you're exactly you're you're in the
• 44:07
  Speaker 10: gym for an hour a day, right for four days
• 44:10
  Speaker 10: a week, sometimes five days a week, depending on your schedule.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: So I think that has developed.
• 44:15
  Speaker 10: Him in a little bit more of a mature way
• 44:17
  Speaker 10: where he has found his game and you're seeing a
• 44:20
  Speaker 10: little bit more of what he's going to be. So
• 44:23
  Speaker 10: I think that's what's really really nice to see about
• 44:25
  Speaker 10: Tyson Dugnath, and that's why I think he's kind of
• 44:28
  Speaker 10: ahead of where they project him to be right now
• 44:32
  Speaker 10: and hopefully get to see him the National Hockey League soon.
• 44:34
  Speaker 10: I think that's you know, he's a fun player to watch.
• 44:37
  Speaker 10: He makes things happen out there, and you know what,
• 44:39
  Speaker 10: he scores goals, he gets assists, he sets up the
• 44:42
  Speaker 10: power play, he does a lot of really really great
• 44:45
  Speaker 10: things well. And I think obviously still needs a little
• 44:48
  Speaker 10: more time for development, because everyone does in some way,
• 44:52
  Speaker 10: shape or form. But I'm excited to see for his
• 44:54
  Speaker 10: future because he's he's just a really fun player to
• 44:56
  Speaker 10: watch and he's a mature kid for his age.
• 44:59
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• 45:03
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• 45:06
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• 45:32
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• 45:34
  Speaker 3: kids who are doing a ton right now at AHL
• 45:37
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• 45:40
  Speaker 3: before they're up here and they're producing over and over
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  Speaker 3: and over as key parts of the lineup, and maybe
• 45:44
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• 46:01
  Speaker 3: First off Zach asking, can we stop referring to the
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: the Ben Myers line as the fourth line? It seemed
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: pretty established as a third line. You have to go
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: back hereto The Devil's Game to find a game where
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: the right line had maybe more five on five time
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: on ice. I don't want to tease my three stars here, fellas,
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: but I mean it's getting more to the point now
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: where I even look back at the Pittsburgh game where
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Ben Myers and the chaos they were producing, the Ford
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: checking pressure that they were producing as well getting into
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: the first two goals. He just can't he just can't
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: resist putting that line right back out there.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this this dance we do and we do it
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: with coach Lane Lambert as well. About the first line,
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: the fourth line, who's the second line? And there are
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: there are no first, second, or third or fourth lines,
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: that just lines. I think it's interesting, you know, having
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: played the game, have you coached the game, and now
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: broadcasting the game.
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: There are four lines, however you want to number.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: However you want to number them up to you, it's
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: often numbered from your highest skilled line that produces the
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: most over the course of the season. Is your number
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: one line. Your fourth line is probably the one that
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: contributes contributes the least. I think you can go time
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: on ice. That tends to be very a very easy
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: way to sort it out, which which three guys have
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: the most or least amount of time in the game. So, yes,
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: there are some games where the fourth line is your
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: best line. And I love those games because I love
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: a good fourth line. So you know, yeah, don't get
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: too caught up in it. It's just an easy way
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: to reference which line is which.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, they're the identity of this team. I
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: think the way that you want to play, the way that.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: We've been we just talked about it, right, this is
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: going to be a team that you know, they're not
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: going to score a lot of goals, So what else
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: can you do?
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: Defend?
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Hit, you know, skate, hustle, work hard, everything that that
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: fourth line has been able to do. And oh, by
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: the way, they've been chipping in some offense as well.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: So I mean I would call them the identity line.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: I think Lane has a lot of trust, excuse me,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: in that line. I know that he likes, you know,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Ben Myers and Ryan Winterton and Jacob Allanson and ty
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Carha that combination of those four guys. You know, that
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: is the type of identity you want this team to
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: play with. And like I said before earlier in the show,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: if that line can can filter through, that mentality can
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: filter through the rest of this roster, this team is going.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: To be in a good spot.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna get to two questions here and kind of
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: lump them into one answer because I think they're they're
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: both related and they're both connected here, and we'll just
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: kind of rattle off our thoughts here on this, and
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: some of this goes back to our first segment and
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: what we were talking about as far as the young kids.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Tyler asking why is there a delay in trading expiring
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: contracts a team has proven with wins and losses that
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: players like Jacob Allanson and ty Karta are more productive
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: than others, and then Phil asking why to mot someone
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: like Malanson when he was lighting a fire here on
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: this team. To answer Tyler's first question, I think for me,
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: it's a wait and see approach, and I think maybe
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: that that we've seen, you know, I think the tip
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: of the iceberg here with the key for sherwood trade
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: from Vancouver to San Jose. But I think also, what
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Phil is saying is what a lot of fans are thinking.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: And again you can go to my account of Twitter
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: and x and look at the replies here from the
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: last roughly twenty four hours here on this matter. I think,
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: what we know, there's a simple answer here to this,
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: and we saw it coming. The Kraken are limited on
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: players who've got to pass through waivers. Malanson's one of
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: the few who are a waiver exempt, so you don't
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: lose him once you send him down. The only other
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: three Berkeley Catton, Shane Wright, and Ryan Winterton. So there's
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: a strong risk that you take with putting someone else through.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: I use say ty Krci as an example. And then
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: maybe then after that do you wait on a trade, Well,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: that's definitely a wait and see approach. Recently, Jason botterol
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: he wants to improve this team. The playoffs were a
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: part of the conversation, and he wants to get Matt Evenier's,
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Shane Wright, Berkeley Catton more support. The playoffs can certainly
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: help them in their career development as well. So who's in,
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: who's out a month from now, a week from now,
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: who knows. But this is a pure numbers game. The
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Cracker I'm playing with right now.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tap the sign. It takes two to tango
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: when it comes to trades. And I've said it before.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I would love nothing more than for Jason Moshrel to
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: offer up three seventh round picks to Colorado for Nathan McKinnon.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Not gonna happen, right, And I always say.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: The EA Sports Game has rejected your trade.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: And you gotta work the problem backwards, right, you talk
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: about the expiring vet contracts and all that. The deal's
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: got to make sense, you know what I mean? Like,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: if i'm you know, Jason Robertson, I'm gonna say that. Okay,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Jason Robertson's a name that we've heard. I read an
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: article last week that said he wants twelve million dollars.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: He wants ranting in money, otherwise he might demand a trade.
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: Now, this is based.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Off off of the article that this author wrote, So
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: this is nothing that he has done.
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: But this is just based off of this article. Well,
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: if you're the.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Dallas Stars and you look at the Seattle crack and
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: roster for Jason Robertson, who are you going to want?
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: You need to work that problem backwards. Jason Robertson, not
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: even is he twenty five, twenty four, five six ish, right,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: he's one of your He's one of the top, if
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: not the top scoring American player in the NHL this year,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: consistently a thirty five goal player, consistently an eighty ninety
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: plus point player. You're going to have to give up
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: that much value for Jason Robertson. You've got four first
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: round picks, so it's going to take at least one,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: maybe two of those. And then you start looking at
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: your prospect pool. Who won the prospect pool? Are you
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: willing to give up? Then you look at your current
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: live roster, Well, who won your current live roster?
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: Are you willing to give up?
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: The Kraken are going to enter a phase here in
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: the next couple of months, I think before the deadline
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: and definitely coming up into this where the first generation
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: of cracking players will not be here next year.
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: It's just it's it's a fact.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: There's a there's a number of players on this roster
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: whose contracts are up, they're getting older for whatever reason.
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: A lot of fan favorites aren't gonna be here.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: So I think a lot of the.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Fans are starting to realize that man, the guy that
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: really got me into this put to this. You know,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: I was a big Mike Benton fan coming up and
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: playing in the NHL. Well, now Mike Ben's contract is
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: up and Mike Ben's going off.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: To fans callery fans, fans, I appreciate it.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but but but you know what I mean, right,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: so you're gonna start seeing a lot of these guys
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: get traded. So I say all that to say, yes,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I would love for some of the contracts to get
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: moved out and your.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Upgrading team, but it takes two to tango.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: And who knows, you know, Jason Boshell could have been
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: making all these phone calls across the across the league
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: and someone could have been like, you know what, thanks
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: but no thanks. Who knows he could have he he
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: could have potentially been offering you know, thirty one other tracks.
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: I say, hey, thirty one other teams. Here you go,
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: I'll give you X for y eh.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Thanks. I'm all good, though, so you never know what
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: has happened.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: All right, three Stars time now and I'll begin first
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: off with Ellie Tolvenan and maybe not the prettiest game
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: I think numbers wise, a lot of the guys that
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: have the prettiest game as far as plus minus may
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: be if you want to really even account for that stat.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: But I mean Ellie Tolbnan, ever since they made the
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: roster moves here in the last week or so before
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: the Boston game, thirteen hits leads the Kraken. We know
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: what he does when he shoots the puck, we also
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: know what he does when he plays physically. Leads this
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: team right now with thirteen hits, two goals as well
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: in a tough stretch, and the more and more that
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: you can find open ice for him on the power
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: play like they found for him at Pittsburgh where he
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: just launched that absolute missile right paste, ARDT. Skinner, you're
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: going to be in business offensively, and so I like
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: what Ellie Tolvenan is doing when he can play physically,
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: when he can also find ways to search for open
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: eyes and find a way to get himself in good
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: position to use his shot. Those were moments that mattered
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: a lot to me. I go back as well of
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: the Boston game. Another snipe that he had right past
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: Jeremy's swiman when he played that one off the boards.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: It's a shot like his that can find the smallest
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: kind of holes that are exposed by goaltenders that make
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: a big difference right now for this offense. So Ellie
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Tolbenen and what's been really a rough last week here
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: for this team in four games is my third star.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: My second star is Ben Myers, and I think defining
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: the kind of energy and fire this team is looking
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: for is something that he personifies. And I mean again,
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: I go back to this lane. Lambert couldn't resist putting
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: him out there. It was certainly justified and it just
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: seems as if no matter who plays with Ben Myers,
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: you're finding a way to generate energy pressure here with
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: the forward check and eventually results. He factored in on
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: both goals the first two goals the crack and scored
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: against the Pittsburgh Penguins, and then the face off circle
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: as well against a good Pittsburgh team, nine of thirteen
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: against Sidney Crosby won four of six face offs as well.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: Time on ice. It's creeping up now. Fourteen fifty five
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: against Utah. Ben Myers was my second star of the week.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: My first star is Brandon Montour and getting him back.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: I think has been huge here for this defense. Getting
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: him back has been huge as well for the power play.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: He had an assist in his first game back against Boston.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: But I even think when you saw a game get
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: as chippy and for as well, the Kracking were playing
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: and you had to admit that the Krack and we're
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: playing pretty well. Despite being down two nothing against Boston,
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: the Bruins tried to raise the stakes physically emotionally as well.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Montour was there at every step of the way to
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: make sure the Kraken were in the fight physically and emotionally.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: It was pretty apparent with the slash he took, then
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: taking some chirps as well from Jeremy swimming and elsewhere.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: We're seeing the kind of emotional leadership that Brandon Montour
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: can give this team, not just offensively but also all
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: across board, and I think you're seeing some really good
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: results out of them. Brandon mont towards my first Star
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: of the week.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike, I agree with everything you said there. Interestingly,
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: I only had one carryover from year three. My third
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: star is that carryover Ben Myers's goal and assist in
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: his last five As you said, twelve to fifteen minutes
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: of time on ice, and it is increasing even in
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: this plus minus, and that's not that's hard to do
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: based on that record over the over the last five
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: one three one, you know, a high of fourteen to
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: fifty five in the Utah game. So Lane Lambert is
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: absolutely starting to trust him more on the ice. Not
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: to mention three shots on goal. My second star is
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: every two goals one assistant his last five six shots
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: on goals, So he's firing the puck a lot, which
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: you want from your captain and a guy with that
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: kind of shot.
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: So I liked that a lot.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: And then my first star, I'm going to give to
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: Jared mccannon two goals to assist an eleven shots on
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: goal over that five you over those five games, you
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: want nineteen shooting as much as possible every single game.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a hard time with Alan, you and
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: I were kind of in lockstep. But Mike, your three stars,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: I was wanting to make all of them my number
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: one star, my number three star, but I think for
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: me my number three star Ellie TOLVD and for the
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: reasons that you said, just the way that he has
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: been finding ways to either generate he's been hitting, he's
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: been shooting, he's been fighting for pugs. You know that
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: battle level that he's on that he has the last week,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: I mean more than the last week, but in particularly
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: for this conversation, last week has been has been rock solid.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I think, like Al said, I'm gonna go with Jordan
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Eberly is my number two star, continuing the second best
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: start of his career. He's found the fountain of youth,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: if you will, that is continuing to help drag this team,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: put him on his back in big moments. And then
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Jared mccannon again, I like the line that he's playing
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: on and he's now in twenty four games play.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Let me pull this up real quick.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Twenty four games played this season for Jared McCann. He's
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: got points in seventeen of those twenty four games.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: So I mean he.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Is consistently putting this team on his back, scoring when
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: it matters. That shot that he has, we know what
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: it can do. So for me, those are my three stars.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: All right, gonna be a fun one tomorrow night once
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: again National TV. He's got the Islander game. We're gonna
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: be your only local source for broadcast coverage and keep
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: no puck drop scheduled a half hour earlier than usual.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: It'll be quite a bit past six thirty, but that's
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: on the schedule. Here we're on air at six Anaheim,
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: coming up at home on Friday, New Jersey at home Sunday,
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: twelve pm faceoff. Take note to clear the way here
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: for Seahawks playoff football and then the Capitol's right back
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: here as well, come up this next Tuesday. That's all
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: the time we have again, big thanks ever it now
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: of course for the usual roundtable. Also big thank you
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: to Evan Pivnik. Talk with you tomorrow for the Kracking
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: and Islanders and this is Cracking Weekly on ninety three
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