Latest / Scam Goddess / The Necklace Caper That Sparked a Revolution w/ Vic Michaelis
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Scal Come ro froll Sca, Come.
- 0:13Speaker 2: R froll Godess bus Pop and Congregation.
- 0:20Speaker 1: It's your girl.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Lacey Mostly aka scam God is back with another installment
- 0:23Speaker 2: of the podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who
- 0:26Speaker 2: paractice it.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. We will
- 0:30Speaker 1: see along the way.
- 0:32Speaker 2: And y'all already know. I'm what, Yes, I am excited,
- 0:36Speaker 2: I am thrilled. I'm elated. Today we have an improviser
- 0:38Speaker 2: and a comedian on the show that I've known for
- 0:40Speaker 2: many years because we came up in the same beautiful
- 0:43Speaker 2: cult together.
- 0:45Speaker 1: That's it. I was gonna used to be a call,
- 0:47Speaker 1: but it's It's a good place, guys.
- 0:49Speaker 2: I love it. I love that place. If you if
- 0:51Speaker 2: you know anything about me, you know I love that place.
- 0:53Speaker 2: You may have seen them in college humor sketches. You
- 0:55Speaker 2: may have also seen them on the Dropout game show
- 0:58Speaker 2: Make Some Noise and later on Game Changer, or perhaps
- 1:02Speaker 2: you've heard them on the podcast Comedy Bang Bang Okay.
- 1:06Speaker 2: But they're also the host of their own show, Very
- 1:10Speaker 2: Important People, which has been nominated for awards. It's on
- 1:14Speaker 2: Dropout TV. It's hilarious. They interview comedians playing improvised characters
- 1:19Speaker 2: while wearing elaborate costumes.
- 1:21Speaker 1: It is so good.
- 1:22Speaker 2: If you have not watched it, which I the Internet
- 1:25Speaker 2: puts it in your face, Henny, because it's good.
- 1:26Speaker 1: The algorithm gonna make you see it. Get into very
- 1:29Speaker 1: important people.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Congregation, please welcome a very important person, the wonderful Vic.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Oh my god, Michaela's that's it. Okay, I thought I
- 1:38Speaker 1: had it, but you know we can get insecure reading
- 1:40Speaker 1: something absolutely.
- 1:41Speaker 2: Congregation, please welcome the wonderful Vic Michaelis to the show.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Hey, Bills, so much for having me. I cannot believe
- 1:48Speaker 1: this is your first time on the show.
- 1:49Speaker 3: I'm nothing if not a fan. I'm a little star strukes.
- 1:51Speaker 2: World class improviser, so this is such a treat to
- 1:54Speaker 2: have you.
- 1:54Speaker 1: I'm so excited.
- 1:55Speaker 3: It's also I like, I have such vivid memories of
- 1:58Speaker 3: watching you at a show called Two Crew.
- 2:00Speaker 1: That I used to go watch all the time.
- 2:03Speaker 3: Like I just have been such a longtime fan as
- 2:06Speaker 3: well as just sort of knowing you and so now
- 2:08Speaker 3: being here performing as well.
- 2:11Speaker 1: Amazing.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Look at us, Harold to TV everything and hear me,
- 2:16Speaker 2: I love it a your nails are fire like literally
- 2:18Speaker 2: but also like I mean that in the compliment way
- 2:21Speaker 2: is well.
- 2:21Speaker 3: I have never had long nails in my life, and
- 2:23Speaker 3: for a show, I was just on. I was in
- 2:24Speaker 3: hungry for six months. I had my nail song and
- 2:27Speaker 3: we're going into a new season of VIP where I
- 2:29Speaker 3: have just sort of like claws and I could not
- 2:32Speaker 3: keep like the hot pink nail polish on and so
- 2:34Speaker 3: now they're painted kind of like a hot Wheels car.
- 2:36Speaker 1: I love it.
- 2:37Speaker 2: So so this was like you you put some stuff
- 2:40Speaker 2: on them yourself.
- 2:41Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no. I was like I paid somebody.
- 2:44Speaker 3: Can you imagine if I was just like yeah, I
- 2:46Speaker 3: don't know.
- 2:46Speaker 1: I was like tinkering around. Some people can do it.
- 2:49Speaker 1: My nail artists can do it.
- 2:51Speaker 2: And my nail artist has like I have to call
- 2:52Speaker 2: her an artist because she is an artist and artist
- 2:54Speaker 2: and she owns a nail salon.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Her name is Hannah.
- 2:56Speaker 2: And I didn't get my nails done for my birthday
- 2:59Speaker 2: because luckily they still held up. But she would know
- 3:01Speaker 2: if I cheated on her. And also I really don't
- 3:04Speaker 2: want to go anybody else. But her nails are like
- 3:06Speaker 2: out to here, like when I tell you, they're like
- 3:07Speaker 2: almost two inches like and she just does nails and
- 3:11Speaker 2: everything with her nails like that, and I'm like, wow,
- 3:13Speaker 2: I get like the Cardi B nails, like the real
- 3:15Speaker 2: big long ones. I'm like, how are y'all doing this?
- 3:17Speaker 2: How do you wipe?
- 3:18Speaker 1: But they're like you, God, just niff your hand up.
- 3:20Speaker 1: You gotta take your.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Palm and shove it up in the middle and then
- 3:24Speaker 2: take the nails down like this. Like so I'll post
- 3:27Speaker 2: a picture of my hand doing the wipes because this
- 3:29Speaker 2: is how you got to do it. If you got
- 3:30Speaker 2: the nails ten hours, yeah, it is, you know what.
- 3:33Speaker 2: But it's worth it for the beauty.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Well that's it.
- 3:36Speaker 3: Wheels nails. Yes, the years are beautiful too, thank you.
- 3:39Speaker 1: You gotta look at them from Afar.
- 3:40Speaker 2: I haven't seen Hannah, but I'm gonna just be flashed
- 3:44Speaker 2: my hands real quick.
- 3:44Speaker 4: Sick.
- 3:45Speaker 1: You never really though, Yes, she'll know that. She's only
- 3:48Speaker 1: going to her.
- 3:49Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:49Speaker 2: And then next thing you know, I got a little
- 3:50Speaker 2: cutical cut and she took them about oops or something.
- 3:54Speaker 1: It wasn't an accident. Okay.
- 3:56Speaker 2: So we always ask on this podcast, what is your
- 3:58Speaker 2: relationship with scams?
- 4:00Speaker 1: Do you love them? Do you hate them? I it
- 4:02Speaker 1: could be anything.
- 4:03Speaker 3: Have you run some I love scams genuinely, like I
- 4:06Speaker 3: truly do, and I think it comes from my fascination
- 4:09Speaker 3: of sort of you were talking about cults earlier, and
- 4:11Speaker 3: I think like cults are sort of scam adjacent and
- 4:14Speaker 3: I am always half a step away from joining a cult.
- 4:17Speaker 3: I feel like, like I just I want to believe
- 4:19Speaker 3: really badly.
- 4:20Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like if I joined a cult, it
- 4:22Speaker 2: would really get rid of a lot of my stress,
- 4:25Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because then like all I'm
- 4:28Speaker 2: focused on is work, you know, taking care of myself
- 4:31Speaker 2: and going out with the cult and doing cult activities.
- 4:34Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's like, well, to your point earlier,
- 4:36Speaker 3: where is it? I think a cult is in the
- 4:39Speaker 3: eye of the beholder, right, because if you're kind of
- 4:41Speaker 3: successful at the cult, it doesn't feel like a cult
- 4:44Speaker 3: because you're.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Like, I don't know how I made it. Well that's it.
- 4:47Speaker 3: It's like, well, I'm working. So it's that type of thing.
- 4:49Speaker 3: And I feel I feel that way about churches and
- 4:51Speaker 3: stuff like that. Is while I grew up in the
- 4:53Speaker 3: church and it was like a very culty feeling type thing,
- 4:56Speaker 3: but I just like I got really good at it
- 4:58Speaker 3: and I was like in all of the the groups
- 5:01Speaker 3: that were like doing stuff within the community, and so
- 5:03Speaker 3: I was like, oh no, this rocks.
- 5:04Speaker 1: This is great.
- 5:06Speaker 2: And I think churches are one of those things that
- 5:07Speaker 2: they sit on the line because it's all about who's
- 5:10Speaker 2: running the church. Because a church can be a wonderful
- 5:12Speaker 2: source of community for a lot of people, free therapy
- 5:16Speaker 2: and you get to have a place to go out
- 5:19Speaker 2: and people know your name, and like spirituality is good
- 5:21Speaker 2: for the spirit and the soul. But then you also
- 5:23Speaker 2: have the cult churches where it's like, why is my
- 5:26Speaker 2: pastor driving a Rolls Royce? Yeah, but asking me for money?
- 5:30Speaker 3: Total size thing too. Like I was a part of
- 5:33Speaker 3: those big megachurches where it's just like, at what point
- 5:36Speaker 3: is it a community? Like where does the community line
- 5:38Speaker 3: versus the corporation start?
- 5:40Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 5:41Speaker 3: Do you want to hear kind of a fun scam?
- 5:42Speaker 1: Yes, I do.
- 5:43Speaker 3: Okay, So I I'm worried I'm gonna get sued, Okay,
- 5:48Speaker 3: I worry.
- 5:49Speaker 1: I think it'll be okay. I think it'll be.
- 5:50Speaker 3: Okay, okay, because it's true. It's just like facts that
- 5:52Speaker 3: you can go find. It's not really slander because it's
- 5:54Speaker 3: just like a thing. So it's like the big scam
- 5:56Speaker 3: that they were running at the megachurch that I was
- 5:58Speaker 3: a part of. Name I will not say was. It
- 6:01Speaker 3: was like the pastor and all of his kids were
- 6:03Speaker 3: running sort of like the church and youth group and
- 6:06Speaker 3: they were like franchising the church and yeah, so there
- 6:09Speaker 3: was a bunch of them. He so they were stealing
- 6:12Speaker 3: a ton of money. They were all living in like
- 6:13Speaker 3: four or five million dollars okay houses around time. Naturally,
- 6:16Speaker 3: of course he put out, uh, there was this big
- 6:20Speaker 3: like Christianity Today article on it. He put out a
- 6:22Speaker 3: hit on his hit, a hit on his son in
- 6:26Speaker 3: law and one of the reporters from Christianity Today that
- 6:29Speaker 3: was doing this big like report on him and his
- 6:31Speaker 3: family trying to expose them safe any money from the church.
- 6:33Speaker 2: It's crazy how you be a man of God and
- 6:36Speaker 2: you're like, well, I'm gonna send you to meet him,
- 6:38Speaker 2: Like you got to go meet guy right now because
- 6:40Speaker 2: you getting in my way.
- 6:41Speaker 3: He got eggs exited out and then he started a
- 6:43Speaker 3: podcast and that's what he does and so he didn't
- 6:46Speaker 3: even have to go to jail for the hit or nothing. No,
- 6:49Speaker 3: because it's all kind of like you know, I think
- 6:51Speaker 3: with stuff like that. I don't know that money changed hands.
- 6:53Speaker 3: It was just like conversations that were being had.
- 6:56Speaker 2: Okay, so it's not It wasn't quite attempted murder because
- 6:59Speaker 2: they didn't like have a confirmation services.
- 7:02Speaker 3: But it was enough that they were like, okay, you're
- 7:04Speaker 3: out of here.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Wow crazy A hit is wild.
- 7:08Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, I'm a man of God, I knowing
- 7:10Speaker 2: real will and I need some people to meet him.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Meet him. Do you think they need to have a conversation.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that's how the conversation goes. Legally, it's a
- 7:19Speaker 2: gray area. I just said I wanted them to meet
- 7:21Speaker 2: their maker, who is also a close personal.
- 7:24Speaker 3: Friend and Jesus a relationship. Yeah, so there you go.
- 7:28Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just sending them home to their house
- 7:30Speaker 1: in the sky, have a conversation with their father. Let
- 7:33Speaker 1: their father deal with it. That's what my mom is
- 7:35Speaker 1: talking about. Go talk to your father. Go talk to
- 7:37Speaker 1: your father.
- 7:37Speaker 2: And by out of I mean the one upstairs is
- 7:39Speaker 2: that I don't know hit, right, the father, the son,
- 7:42Speaker 2: and the Holy Spirit.
- 7:43Speaker 1: I was just throwing them a small party, like you know,
- 7:45Speaker 1: they go up there, they kick it with them. That's
- 7:47Speaker 1: really it.
- 7:48Speaker 3: You're welcome actually right, I was doing a good thing.
- 7:53Speaker 1: Oh man, but starting a podcast after that? Crazy? Just wow?
- 7:57Speaker 1: Does hellpen also right on track? Perfect? And what are
- 8:01Speaker 1: the Christian girlies? Are they? It's a part like God podcast?
- 8:04Speaker 1: Yet the godcast? Is that a thing? Can't be right?
- 8:09Speaker 2: Maybe now I want to search godcast because if that's
- 8:11Speaker 2: not a thing TM, that's mine.
- 8:13Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I'm gonna get on here. I'm
- 8:15Speaker 1: seeing type, I'm seeing typing.
- 8:16Speaker 2: Frantic typing God and seeing if there's a godcast God
- 8:20Speaker 2: caster that's different, that's God cast.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Take that all off? Why say the podcast godcast podcast host?
- 8:29Speaker 4: No?
- 8:30Speaker 1: Give it a second? Yeah? Goodcast? Well how many followers
- 8:33Speaker 1: are they still making episodes? Right? Oh?
- 8:36Speaker 3: They got three hundred and seventy four reviews, okay, and.
- 8:39Speaker 1: They got four point four stars.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Now, how you're gonna give a podcast about God a
- 8:44Speaker 2: one star review?
- 8:45Speaker 1: Yeah? That's really tough. How you gonna give God one star?
- 8:48Speaker 1: You ain't right? See, it's a hater for everybody, Like
- 8:51Speaker 1: come on, man.
- 8:51Speaker 3: Well it's Bible style, you know, it's somebody's written it.
- 8:54Speaker 3: So you don't know, like, is it was it through
- 8:56Speaker 3: the Holy Spirit? Was it a translation issue? You know?
- 8:58Speaker 2: That type of thing and maybe save for the spoken
- 9:00Speaker 2: they got a couple of bear reviews. Damn, yeah, that's tough, right,
- 9:05Speaker 2: It's just somebody like I'm an eighthiist, So I just
- 9:07Speaker 2: came over here to say I didn't like goodcast. Now,
- 9:11Speaker 2: so your scam here was.
- 9:14Speaker 3: Some wasn't my scam so much, just as like a
- 9:16Speaker 3: scam that was happening. My scams largely would have been
- 9:19Speaker 3: Like I was really bad in school. I was like
- 9:21Speaker 3: very dyslexic, and I had a really hard time writing stuff,
- 9:25Speaker 3: and so I went to for a little while, like
- 9:28Speaker 3: a very conservative Christian school from like eighth grade to
- 9:32Speaker 3: tenth grade. Wow, And so you could kind of get
- 9:35Speaker 3: away with stuff if you knew like the right language
- 9:38Speaker 3: to be saying. And so I used to like if
- 9:42Speaker 3: I had an essay that I couldn't write, I would
- 9:44Speaker 3: just type out nonsense like absolute gibberish, save it in
- 9:47Speaker 3: a file type that was like like an like an
- 9:51Speaker 3: FTX file or whatever, and then I'd send it in
- 9:53Speaker 3: and basically say that like, oh, they couldn't open it,
- 9:55Speaker 3: or like it had scrambled the words.
- 9:57Speaker 2: Because I like, beautiful, you said, this is a technological issue.
- 10:02Speaker 2: I got a little scared but that you were going
- 10:04Speaker 2: to say, and then I would put it in to
- 10:06Speaker 2: chat GPT and I was like, no.
- 10:08Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no. We hate AI, we hate AI.
- 10:11Speaker 1: We hate it.
- 10:11Speaker 3: Large what are they called large? Large word models? It
- 10:14Speaker 3: literally is a scam. My brother works in robotics and
- 10:16Speaker 3: was telling me how chat GBT works because it is
- 10:18Speaker 3: not doing anything. It's the large language models are literally like, oh,
- 10:22Speaker 3: well you're talking about this, so we're predicting it.
- 10:24Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what it is. It's literally a scam. Yeah,
- 10:27Speaker 2: and it costs. I think it's like a lot of energy.
- 10:28Speaker 2: It takes up a lot of energy when people are using.
- 10:30Speaker 1: It, chugging scam.
- 10:36Speaker 2: God, I've got some printed word in front of me.
- 10:40Speaker 2: Historic hoodwings. Okay, yes, So we are going to regale
- 10:45Speaker 2: Vic with a famous concaper group of criminals. Maybe we
- 10:49Speaker 2: love them, maybe we hate them. We'll give vixed opinions
- 10:51Speaker 2: all throughout and let's see. So I love this for
- 10:57Speaker 2: us because it kind of feels character It kind of
- 11:00Speaker 2: feels like it's like a VIP adjacent story.
- 11:04Speaker 1: Because we're going back to seventeen eighty five.
- 11:06Speaker 2: Here we go in France, there was a Marie Antoinette impersonator.
- 11:12Speaker 2: Ooh yes, and yeah, okay, this is like just a
- 11:16Speaker 2: Halloween costume of Marie Antoinette. I think we're looking at
- 11:19Speaker 2: just but you know what it's giving. It's giving us
- 11:21Speaker 2: the it's putting us in the headspace of the historical period. Okay,
- 11:25Speaker 2: we're in our seventeen eighty five bag. Now, okay, a
- 11:29Speaker 2: cell phone? What is this magic? Witchcraft?
- 11:32Speaker 1: Yeah, literally drowned. Yeah, this was back in the day
- 11:34Speaker 1: where women knew things.
- 11:35Speaker 2: They'd be like, oh, did she read you're out of here?
- 11:38Speaker 2: All right, let's downe her to deaf.
- 11:39Speaker 1: She's a witch.
- 11:40Speaker 3: She's a landowner, so she's out of Here's that a
- 11:42Speaker 3: whole thing with that? Yeah, And they kept calling people
- 11:44Speaker 3: that had any kind of because it was so hard
- 11:46Speaker 3: to own land, and so they were like, they're a witch,
- 11:48Speaker 3: and now actually that land gets to go to the
- 11:49Speaker 3: family of the accused.
- 11:50Speaker 2: And if they're not a witch, then when we throw
- 11:52Speaker 2: them in the river, then they won't Okay, if they're
- 11:55Speaker 2: a witch, they'll float, and if they're not a witch.
- 11:57Speaker 3: They'll sink.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Made no sense.
- 12:01Speaker 3: Depending on who you're talking to, I guess right.
- 12:03Speaker 2: That would have been a Win went for the pastor.
- 12:05Speaker 2: He was like, I was just trying to make sure
- 12:06Speaker 2: they weren't witches. Like if they drowned, then they weren't
- 12:09Speaker 2: a witch. Can we know now we know if they
- 12:11Speaker 2: float they are, which we gotta stone them.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Yeah, makes sense to me.
- 12:16Speaker 2: So there's a Marie Antoinette impersonator that caused a scandal
- 12:20Speaker 2: at the Court of Louis the sixteenth that discredited the
- 12:24Speaker 2: French monarchy and may have led to the start of
- 12:26Speaker 2: the French Revolution. So an impersonator might actually have all
- 12:31Speaker 2: of this on their hands, be the.
- 12:32Speaker 1: One that started the French Revolution, okay, which is.
- 12:35Speaker 2: Kind of like metal to me. I love it and
- 12:38Speaker 2: it makes me remember like the last Olympic ceremony when
- 12:41Speaker 2: they were in France and they had that really cool
- 12:44Speaker 2: like performance where they had Marie Antoine's.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Hit oh yeah on the building on the building. Yeah,
- 12:50Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Yes, And they also made people swim in the dirty
- 12:53Speaker 2: ass scene like.
- 12:56Speaker 1: How does in google water? I believe so.
- 13:00Speaker 3: I've been calling it cine.
- 13:01Speaker 1: Oh no, how ya gonna make me do the Olympics
- 13:05Speaker 1: and poop water? This is ridiculous. This is supposed to
- 13:08Speaker 1: be a world class event, really hard.
- 13:10Speaker 2: But so the necklace is where we're starting the necklace,
- 13:14Speaker 2: and we're gonna see the necklace. Look at this, this
- 13:16Speaker 2: Mari Antoinez necklace. It's gorgeous. It's so gaudy, and if
- 13:20Speaker 2: you think about seventeen eighty five, I can't even imagine
- 13:23Speaker 2: how much work it took to make this.
- 13:25Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the mixed material too. Look at that with
- 13:28Speaker 3: the ribbons on the side. Yeah, that really is sensational.
- 13:31Speaker 2: Yeah, the ribbons are really kind of giving me a
- 13:33Speaker 2: little something if you especially think about the time period
- 13:35Speaker 2: and the flowy kind of roughly clothing, Like, I don't know,
- 13:39Speaker 2: I'm into it.
- 13:40Speaker 3: You're gonna post this and Claire's it's going to be
- 13:42Speaker 3: all over it. Oh, there's gonna be nine dupes of
- 13:44Speaker 3: this for sure.
- 13:45Speaker 2: But also kind of the ribbon is getting on my
- 13:47Speaker 2: nerves a little bit though, because it's such an intricate,
- 13:49Speaker 2: like beautiful diamond piece. I really hope that you don't
- 13:52Speaker 2: have to tie around your neck with a ribbon because
- 13:53Speaker 2: that's crazy.
- 13:54Speaker 3: Yeah that also feels like heavy, like it would be
- 13:56Speaker 3: the ribbon would pill it really would really.
- 13:59Speaker 2: Into the rib So the necklace was property of the
- 14:02Speaker 2: Parisian firm of jewelers Bohmer and Bessinge, Bamilla and Bon Gorgeous.
- 14:10Speaker 1: They had personally.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Financed making it on like a spec, which took years
- 14:15Speaker 2: as they meticulously gathered six hundred and seventy four diamonds
- 14:18Speaker 2: of exceptional purity, totaling two hundred and eighty four carrots.
- 14:22Speaker 2: The result was a masterpiece, a cascading work of diamonds
- 14:25Speaker 2: and pearls in an elaborate like esclaviage style, escavage, very cabage.
- 14:35Speaker 2: This is where you all find out that I can't read.
- 14:37Speaker 2: I've been lying to you guys the whole time.
- 14:38Speaker 3: I can't so worried that I can't read. I'm seeing
- 14:41Speaker 3: all those news articles where they're like seventy percent of
- 14:44Speaker 3: people are not reading at a proper reading level. I'm like,
- 14:46Speaker 3: oh my god, I think that's me.
- 14:48Speaker 2: Or if I read something or I read a book
- 14:50Speaker 2: and I'm reading and I think I'm reading too slow,
- 14:52Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, I should be reading faster.
- 14:54Speaker 1: Yeah, out of time, Like, but I did finish a
- 14:57Speaker 1: book in a day and not too long ago, so
- 14:59Speaker 1: maybe I can't read. I think you're a plus great.
- 15:02Speaker 2: I think I'm literally you all find out that it's
- 15:04Speaker 2: just like just saying the words and then I repeat
- 15:06Speaker 2: them back, like like, how do his lines and with
- 15:09Speaker 2: the earpiece?
- 15:10Speaker 1: Is that true? Yeah?
- 15:11Speaker 2: And the parents of Caribbean like some of those he
- 15:13Speaker 2: was like he had an earwei again and they would
- 15:15Speaker 2: give him the line.
- 15:15Speaker 3: That's tough because that's not period accurate. Nah, take tired
- 15:19Speaker 3: to the Caribbean movies.
- 15:20Speaker 1: He can really do anything. We wasn't going to know.
- 15:23Speaker 2: We wasn't pirates. But so it's like elaborate in an
- 15:26Speaker 2: Esclavage style. We're gonna say that's right, Featuring seventeen large
- 15:29Speaker 2: diamonds at its center, surrounded by intricate garlands and pendants.
- 15:33Speaker 1: They had been.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Trying for several years to sell it, but they couldn't
- 15:36Speaker 2: find a buyer. Yeah, because it's expensive as hell. Who
- 15:39Speaker 2: needs this?
- 15:40Speaker 3: It's like do you see those house shows where they're like,
- 15:42Speaker 3: there's thirty five million dollar house has been on the
- 15:45Speaker 3: market for a year and we can't find a single buyer.
- 15:47Speaker 1: Yeah, that's this.
- 15:48Speaker 2: Nobody needs thirty five million dollars worth of house.
- 15:50Speaker 1: And also there's four people, you know what, your market
- 15:53Speaker 1: is very small?
- 15:54Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like and if they've got a place already
- 15:57Speaker 3: in La, Like, that's just tough.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna stay on the market. You're gonna have
- 16:00Speaker 2: to lower the price or cut it up into some
- 16:03Speaker 2: apartment ship. We need housing. But also like it's such
- 16:06Speaker 2: an expensive piece, but it's also gaudy, and I'm just thinking, like,
- 16:10Speaker 2: you have to be someone who's so deeply insulated by
- 16:12Speaker 2: security that you would never see anybody who could just
- 16:16Speaker 2: snatch it.
- 16:17Speaker 3: And I'm gonna say it confident. You gotta be confident
- 16:20Speaker 3: to wear that, you really do.
- 16:22Speaker 1: And you gotta have a strong neck. Oh yeah, you
- 16:25Speaker 1: gotta be jacked. Like, yeah, you.
- 16:28Speaker 2: Need like a John Cena type neck. Yeah, like you
- 16:31Speaker 2: need like the rock will look great in this, Like
- 16:34Speaker 2: his is strong.
- 16:36Speaker 1: Yeah, he could rock.
- 16:37Speaker 3: I actually think with necklaces coming back specifically for like
- 16:40Speaker 3: strong men, I think the rock absolutely. I think we
- 16:44Speaker 3: will be seeing this on him as some sort of
- 16:46Speaker 3: a I want to see.
- 16:47Speaker 1: Him in his black turtleneck and his jeans and that necklace.
- 16:50Speaker 3: Oh wait, I love that turtleneck with the necklace on
- 16:54Speaker 3: top of it.
- 16:54Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's just a casual you know, just throw
- 16:57Speaker 2: it on.
- 16:57Speaker 3: I think that's a up scales it a little bit.
- 16:59Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just a high low hi low.
- 17:01Speaker 2: You know, two hundred and eighty four carrot diamond necklace
- 17:04Speaker 2: and also a unique low.
- 17:07Speaker 3: I was shocked, but you talked me into it, like, I.
- 17:09Speaker 1: Mean it could give, it could get Yeah, I make
- 17:11Speaker 1: it work.
- 17:12Speaker 2: So so first they tried to get Louis the fifteen
- 17:17Speaker 2: to buy it as a present for his mistress, Madame
- 17:20Speaker 2: du Ballet, but he died before they finished it. So yeah,
- 17:25Speaker 2: that's probably something that So this is how her neck
- 17:28Speaker 2: looks like. It's strong, Like it looks like she could
- 17:29Speaker 2: really hold that necklace.
- 17:30Speaker 3: It does, but unfortunately with something that specific to give
- 17:34Speaker 3: it to the mistress and then.
- 17:35Speaker 1: Be like, oh where'd you get that? Right?
- 17:37Speaker 3: Oh can you imagine love? Actually the wife sees that
- 17:40Speaker 3: in the little ring box and then season on her
- 17:43Speaker 3: during Christmas, It's like, what the fuck? Yeah that's tough.
- 17:46Speaker 2: She also has like a lot of chest Like I
- 17:49Speaker 2: don't know if I have enough chest area. And I
- 17:52Speaker 2: don't even mean breast, I mean just like the like
- 17:54Speaker 2: the chest plate, the what's the word for this, Like
- 17:58Speaker 2: I watched the pit boom stern Yeah.
- 18:02Speaker 1: A lot of sternum. She got a lot of stern
- 18:03Speaker 1: up going on, So she's.
- 18:04Speaker 3: Really putting her pit knowledge to right to work here.
- 18:08Speaker 3: You're right, do you think that's an artist rundering and
- 18:10Speaker 3: she do you think that that's being generous sort of
- 18:12Speaker 3: with what the artist is given here.
- 18:14Speaker 2: I mean they had to sit for these portraits forever,
- 18:18Speaker 2: and the artists Like, if I sat for like that
- 18:21Speaker 2: many hours and they didn't give me some airbrush and
- 18:24Speaker 2: some some sepia and some you know, it made me
- 18:27Speaker 2: look like a baddie, I would be pissed off. The
- 18:30Speaker 2: artist did do a little Yeah, that's tough then, Yeah,
- 18:34Speaker 2: but I mean her dress is giving. I know, she
- 18:37Speaker 2: probably smelled bad because nobody was bathing back then. And
- 18:40Speaker 2: I think about that every time I see a period
- 18:42Speaker 2: piece and they start making out, and I'm like, I know,
- 18:45Speaker 2: y'all broth as hot as hell, Like, why y'all just
- 18:47Speaker 2: making out all willy Nilly's teeth.
- 18:49Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard, and I know y'all ain't taking no baths.
- 18:55Speaker 2: So in seventeen eighty two, they offered it to Louis
- 18:59Speaker 2: the sixteenth for Marie Antoinette.
- 19:01Speaker 1: Oh, Marie said no, even when they.
- 19:04Speaker 2: Reduced the price to a steal at one point six
- 19:08Speaker 2: million livres or like around seventeen point five million USD
- 19:13Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four or in twenty twenty five. She
- 19:17Speaker 2: said the funds would be better spent on building a warship,
- 19:21Speaker 2: since France had just allied itself with the American insurgents
- 19:24Speaker 2: in the Revolutionary War. Also, she didn't like the style,
- 19:28Speaker 2: which was in the style of the previous monarchy and
- 19:32Speaker 2: looked like a horse's harness.
- 19:36Speaker 3: How crazy to be, Like this money could really be
- 19:39Speaker 3: put to better use, and also it's so ugly.
- 19:42Speaker 1: Also, this money could really be put to better use,
- 19:45Speaker 1: like a warship.
- 19:46Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's good feeding people past.
- 19:49Speaker 1: No, no, they got an ekship though.
- 19:54Speaker 2: Now we're talking and then they're aligning with us, our
- 19:57Speaker 2: wack asses, like literally, we should have paid the taxes,
- 20:01Speaker 2: like Great Britain paid for us to come over here.
- 20:04Speaker 1: And then I say us, I was stolen. I was
- 20:06Speaker 1: a slave, but my ancestors.
- 20:09Speaker 2: But you know, let's pretend that I was one of
- 20:11Speaker 2: the thieves who came over here on a boat Willingly
- 20:14Speaker 2: and I was a William McDougal, Donald whatever, and like
- 20:20Speaker 2: they were supposed to pay their taxes and they were
- 20:21Speaker 2: like you know what, we are so far away from y'all.
- 20:24Speaker 1: We're won freedom.
- 20:27Speaker 2: But I get it if I was that far away,
- 20:29Speaker 2: which I guess, we are so like ocean between us.
- 20:32Speaker 1: Who you want me to send you money? Yeah, come
- 20:34Speaker 1: swim over and get it.
- 20:36Speaker 3: Yeah, which they did they did, which is sort of
- 20:40Speaker 3: sort of what happened.
- 20:42Speaker 1: That the war was the war? Now that I think
- 20:48Speaker 1: about it, they did swim over. Yeah yeah.
- 20:51Speaker 2: Okay, Well, well they're not teaching all history at school
- 20:56Speaker 2: no more, so this might be the best.
- 20:57Speaker 1: You got to share this with your baby.
- 20:59Speaker 2: Okay, we just explained the American Revolution.
- 21:02Speaker 1: Okay, now your baby.
- 21:03Speaker 2: Now you're especially if you're in Florida, because I know
- 21:06Speaker 2: they ain't teaching them babies and nothing, so you know,
- 21:08Speaker 2: just put this on. So the jewelers attempted to sell
- 21:12Speaker 2: the necklace abroad, offering it to Spain, England, the Two Sicilies, Tscany,
- 21:17Speaker 2: and Russia, but found no buyers. In desperation, Barmer even
- 21:22Speaker 2: threatened suicide before the Queen, begging her to reconsider, but
- 21:26Speaker 2: she said no again.
- 21:28Speaker 1: WHOA.
- 21:31Speaker 3: That's why that honesty is kind of brilliant, just to
- 21:36Speaker 3: be like, how much is this necklace worth?
- 21:37Speaker 2: A life, life mine, deside right now, just side right
- 21:41Speaker 2: now my life, or kill me.
- 21:45Speaker 3: You have to do it because you're doing it either
- 21:47Speaker 3: way by the necklace or you or I'm giving you
- 21:52Speaker 3: a gun and you have to shoot me right now.
- 21:54Speaker 2: Now that's too easy. You gotta throw little rocks at
- 21:56Speaker 2: me until I die. No, slow, not stone.
- 22:00Speaker 1: I want to be pebbled, pabbled to death.
- 22:02Speaker 3: Put me in a box and glass by glass. You
- 22:04Speaker 3: have to pour water in there until I drown.
- 22:11Speaker 1: That's hard. That's a crazy marketing. I kind of love it.
- 22:18Speaker 2: I want to see what's the modern version of this
- 22:20Speaker 2: Burger Kings like have it your way or we'll have.
- 22:24Speaker 3: You know what it is, leave the planet. My cousin
- 22:27Speaker 3: was a part of m lums and I do legitimately
- 22:28Speaker 3: think what it is is like she would sell stuff
- 22:30Speaker 3: on live, like on Facebook, and she would be like,
- 22:33Speaker 3: we can't get started until I have for more people
- 22:35Speaker 3: in my chat or whatever. And that feels like the
- 22:37Speaker 3: equivalent of that is he're just like desperately begging people
- 22:40Speaker 3: to join her live. Yeah, and she can see people's
- 22:43Speaker 3: names that are popping up and is calling them out
- 22:44Speaker 3: as they're leaving the chat.
- 22:46Speaker 1: She's like Hi, John, Oh, Steve, you're leave it? Steve?
- 22:48Speaker 1: Why you leave it? Yeah? You must not love me,
- 22:50Speaker 1: you must not want me to live. That's it. I
- 22:54Speaker 1: don't know. It's a strategy. So the swindler. Jean Deva,
- 23:01Speaker 1: Oh Gorgeous.
- 23:02Speaker 2: Aka the Countess of de la Mont, was the daughter
- 23:06Speaker 2: of Henry the second of France through an illegitimate son.
- 23:11Speaker 1: She had grown up poor and often begged for food,
- 23:15Speaker 1: but took her illegitimate claim to nobility seriously. Contemporary accounts
- 23:20Speaker 1: describe her as being thin, with small breasts, brown hair,
- 23:23Speaker 1: and blue eyes. Now, why do we need to know
- 23:26Speaker 1: about her? Daties? That's gotta be so tough.
- 23:28Speaker 2: If like historically we got to put this in an
- 23:29Speaker 2: album neck it was like a cup already.
- 23:32Speaker 3: If your personal personality is that bad that they're like
- 23:36Speaker 3: scavenging for things to talk about you with, and so
- 23:39Speaker 3: that's sort of what they came up with, is just
- 23:40Speaker 3: like uh, breast small.
- 23:42Speaker 1: Uh, it's just like just searching for adjectives.
- 23:45Speaker 2: Her breast boom moved boobli as she walked through the castle,
- 23:50Speaker 2: like what she had no personality Because the thing about
- 23:53Speaker 2: Marie Antoinette is like obviously, like we weren't even our
- 23:57Speaker 2: lineages weren't even thought of when she was alive. But
- 23:59Speaker 2: well you'll know some things about her. Some things people
- 24:02Speaker 2: made up, things that people said she did. We got
- 24:05Speaker 2: movies about her where we just guessing. But obviously she
- 24:07Speaker 2: had a personality, clearly Marie's when that was a Babbage
- 24:10Speaker 2: you could never que you know what I mean? Yeah,
- 24:12Speaker 2: I loved the Marines when that movie with Kristen Dunce
- 24:14Speaker 2: because they did some fun anacharisms where the word of
- 24:17Speaker 2: anacharism means like something that's out of a time period,
- 24:20Speaker 2: but it's on purpose.
- 24:22Speaker 1: So when they were scrolling through like all.
- 24:23Speaker 2: Of her French fancy shoes, there was a pair of
- 24:26Speaker 2: pink convers no, like they just stuff like that. I
- 24:30Speaker 2: thought that was kind of cool. And I also just
- 24:31Speaker 2: love Kristin Dunce. I've loved her since The Virgin Suicide.
- 24:34Speaker 1: Oh Me too, That was my favorite movie. I loved it.
- 24:37Speaker 1: Should that have been our favorite movie? No? I think
- 24:39Speaker 1: that we probably, but we were like put that on again.
- 24:44Speaker 1: It was like, no, you shouldn't.
- 24:46Speaker 3: Be somebody doesn't like you kill yourself in front of
- 24:48Speaker 3: them unless they want to go.
- 24:49Speaker 1: To a date with you. Yeah, or they don't want
- 24:51Speaker 1: to buy your necklace.
- 24:52Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, then I think some of this is
- 24:54Speaker 3: starting to uh starting to come together for me.
- 24:57Speaker 1: So all we know about her is breast of her
- 25:00Speaker 1: hair and her eyes.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Ra right. So she married an officer of the French
- 25:10Speaker 2: military and one month later gave birth to twins, both
- 25:14Speaker 2: of whom only lived a few days. It was tragic,
- 25:17Speaker 2: but they moved on pretty quickly.
- 25:19Speaker 1: Assuming that's so sad. It was tragic, but they moved on.
- 25:31Speaker 1: Don't worry. They moved on so fast, so fast.
- 25:34Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, but this was back in the day
- 25:36Speaker 2: where like this whole reason we have birthdays. We celebrate
- 25:38Speaker 2: our birth because the children would just be dying all
- 25:41Speaker 2: really knewy you had to pop one out and see
- 25:42Speaker 2: if they was gonna make it, and if they made
- 25:44Speaker 2: it a year, you'd be like your birthday, Yeah you're
- 25:46Speaker 2: not dead.
- 25:46Speaker 3: I never put that together, but of course, yes, wild.
- 25:50Speaker 2: And so back then the kids was dying like hotcakes.
- 25:52Speaker 2: So that I guess you can't get to a dead.
- 25:54Speaker 2: Oh gosh, we'll.
- 25:55Speaker 1: Put a sugar warning in here because I don't want
- 25:57Speaker 1: to trigger anybody.
- 25:59Speaker 2: But talking about olden times, we have modern medicine.
- 26:02Speaker 3: Now seventeen dangerous still dangerous.
- 26:04Speaker 1: Mortality rate for black women very high, very high.
- 26:08Speaker 2: So they moved on pretty quickly, assuming the made up
- 26:12Speaker 2: titles of Count and Countess de la Mont. I'm not
- 26:16Speaker 2: saying all that, but you know they were the Count
- 26:18Speaker 2: and Countess of de la Mont VLLEHOI yea, yeah, y'all
- 26:24Speaker 2: know where it's at, right, y'all been to Del Moll?
- 26:26Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it all My homies love De la
- 26:29Speaker 1: Mont every weekend, every weekend. We so pretending to have
- 26:35Speaker 1: a claim to hire.
- 26:36Speaker 2: This is what they did. They pretended they were the
- 26:38Speaker 2: Count and the Countess of de la Mont. So there's
- 26:42Speaker 2: the count the countess, yes, yes, so, and they pretended
- 26:48Speaker 2: to have this like claim to hire status. They had
- 26:50Speaker 2: some money in court privileges, but the count wasn't able
- 26:53Speaker 2: to provide the extravagant lifestyle that the countess wanted, so
- 26:57Speaker 2: she started taking lovers, first to common who worked, who
- 27:08Speaker 2: worked in the military. So it was a jigglow who
- 27:11Speaker 2: worked in the military with her husband, and later she
- 27:14Speaker 2: became one of many women sleeping with the Cardinal de Ron,
- 27:18Speaker 2: a famous horn dog at the French court.
- 27:21Speaker 1: So I'm trying to read this back so I can understand.
- 27:24Speaker 2: So she got with the jiggalo right who worked in
- 27:27Speaker 2: the military with her husband.
- 27:29Speaker 1: Okay, so this is her husband homeboy, and she started
- 27:32Speaker 1: getting with him.
- 27:33Speaker 3: It's so tough that he is working in the military
- 27:35Speaker 3: but also has to have a second job.
- 27:36Speaker 2: And then she began she then she becomes like the
- 27:39Speaker 2: sidehole to the Cardinal de.
- 27:41Speaker 1: Rohan rahome Rome Cardinal de ron love that. Yeah, so
- 27:46Speaker 1: he's very popular in court. Now.
- 27:49Speaker 2: What I think is interesting about this is like you
- 27:51Speaker 2: don't have to necessarily have like a bloodline to be
- 27:54Speaker 2: at court. It's kind of like there's a bloodline and
- 27:56Speaker 2: then there's just people who are like popular.
- 27:58Speaker 3: Yeah, you either have to be really hot or come
- 28:01Speaker 3: from a family just kind of.
- 28:03Speaker 1: Still like now rich. Yeah, it is kind of still
- 28:06Speaker 1: like now yeh, that's exactly like now.
- 28:09Speaker 3: It's kind of like exactly like now, like if Instagram
- 28:11Speaker 3: was court.
- 28:12Speaker 1: Wow we got our nepo babies. Yeah. Wow.
- 28:16Speaker 3: It's not always so crazy, especially being in film and television,
- 28:19Speaker 3: where it's like there are people that are genuinely so talented,
- 28:21Speaker 3: but it is so nuts just like seeing people just
- 28:23Speaker 3: pop up.
- 28:24Speaker 2: And you're like who is that person. It's like, oh,
- 28:26Speaker 2: and they came out of nowhere nowhere. But it's like
- 28:28Speaker 2: that's how you get funding for your project. You'd be like,
- 28:31Speaker 2: oh that we're also gonna write We're gonna put this
- 28:33Speaker 2: person in there, and you know they're Tom Hanks's son.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what chit. I already talked about
- 28:38Speaker 1: that show. I love it.
- 28:40Speaker 2: So this Kandal, the Cornel Dejjam, Bishop of Strasbourg, why
- 28:47Speaker 2: I gotta say his whole name like this is like
- 28:49Speaker 2: game of throws. I'm like, for the first of his name,
- 28:52Speaker 2: lord of the Andals. So he was looking to do
- 28:55Speaker 2: some reputation rehab for himself when he met the countess,
- 28:58Speaker 2: because remember he was the the court ho like he
- 29:01Speaker 2: was out here really just giving, you know, giving it
- 29:03Speaker 2: to everybody.
- 29:04Speaker 1: And he does not look good. This is y'all's hope. No,
- 29:06Speaker 1: that's really tough. This is the man bald up top.
- 29:11Speaker 2: Right, Maybe he got some undercarriage things going on, bald
- 29:15Speaker 2: the popular.
- 29:17Speaker 3: Long on the sides, bald up top.
- 29:19Speaker 1: And then he got like a.
- 29:20Speaker 3: Flip of bo like farah fawcet, like what yeah.
- 29:24Speaker 2: And this this was y'all's king. This was y'all's bands.
- 29:26Speaker 2: I was like, ugh, like.
- 29:30Speaker 3: Okay, that's really hard to see me.
- 29:33Speaker 1: No, no, no, Maybe he.
- 29:34Speaker 3: Was like really kind person, a generous lover.
- 29:41Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, clearly he was doing all the French stuff.
- 29:44Speaker 3: Yeah, there gonna be something going on there.
- 29:46Speaker 1: He probably admitted the kiss.
- 29:48Speaker 3: Oh whoa, the French one. I love that because that
- 29:51Speaker 3: really is it is. There's got to be something else
- 29:53Speaker 3: going on there. Maybe it's just the confidence, you know
- 29:54Speaker 3: when he goes up and he's like, I like you
- 29:56Speaker 3: and I want to have sex with you.
- 29:57Speaker 2: And then you're like, well, I guess I should we
- 30:00Speaker 2: we we okay, wee wee wee. So this is the
- 30:04Speaker 2: Cardinal horn Dog and he's trying to rehabilitate his reputation. So,
- 30:09Speaker 2: as French ambassador to Vienna from seventeen seventy two to
- 30:12Speaker 2: seventeen seventy four, he had slept around a lot, which
- 30:15Speaker 2: pissed off Marie Antoinette's mother, the Austrian Empress Maria Teresa.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Why is she mad?
- 30:22Speaker 2: So Marie herself didn't like the horn Dog either, and
- 30:27Speaker 2: she cut him out of her inner circle. Rohand wanted
- 30:31Speaker 2: to get back in. So this is the Cardinal I'm
- 30:33Speaker 2: gonna call the cardinal. Cardinal wanted to get back in,
- 30:34Speaker 2: but like everybody was like, you're a hoe and we
- 30:36Speaker 2: hate you. This is Empress Maria Teresa. Now why was
- 30:40Speaker 2: she mad? Did she hook up with the cardinal and
- 30:44Speaker 2: then she didn't want to spread in his.
- 30:48Speaker 1: Love? She looks sunned, she really does. You know what?
- 30:51Speaker 1: They did have to sit for a long time, and
- 30:53Speaker 1: so it does. It's given.
- 30:54Speaker 2: I'm holding it in a fart or like, I really
- 30:57Speaker 2: do need to get to the bathroom, but get them
- 30:59Speaker 2: last brustrokes in and then I'm gonna go to the
- 31:02Speaker 2: Royal loop chambers.
- 31:03Speaker 1: The chambers.
- 31:04Speaker 2: Absolutely oh, thinking about how rich like you had to
- 31:10Speaker 2: be the person to bring over the little pot for
- 31:11Speaker 2: them to poop in and then take the poop out.
- 31:13Speaker 3: Away, That that was a job and a coveted job, right, Yes,
- 31:18Speaker 3: to like be because otherwise I guess you're just like
- 31:21Speaker 3: like a surf.
- 31:22Speaker 2: Yes, at least I guess you get to live in
- 31:24Speaker 2: the castle. Yeah, you do have to see poop every.
- 31:26Speaker 1: Day, that's true.
- 31:27Speaker 3: But there's like it's like fire and food in the castle.
- 31:30Speaker 1: Yeah, there is fire and food.
- 31:31Speaker 3: That's really hard to hear that that was a job
- 31:34Speaker 3: that people were like applying for again, kind of like today.
- 31:37Speaker 1: I like today, like today.
- 31:40Speaker 2: So the count is at mont. This is the one
- 31:43Speaker 2: with the little boobs. But that's how we know her now,
- 31:46Speaker 2: So I'm bringing her back in. Remember the count like
- 31:50Speaker 2: this is the wife.
- 31:51Speaker 3: Of huge eyes, tiny tiny boobs.
- 31:55Speaker 1: Big eyes, diny boobs.
- 31:57Speaker 2: She's back in this, y'all. Are y'all staying with me?
- 32:00Speaker 2: Do we all know where the characters are at now?
- 32:01Speaker 2: Because I'm starting to get confused myself. So we have
- 32:05Speaker 2: the countess who named herself the countess, and remember she married,
- 32:09Speaker 2: She married the French officer, but then she started hooking
- 32:12Speaker 2: up with other people because she was like, I need
- 32:13Speaker 2: more in my life. And then she started hooking up
- 32:16Speaker 2: with the court ho, the court hole, Cardinal de Rohan,
- 32:20Speaker 2: and then Marie Antwinette. Mama don't like the court ho
- 32:24Speaker 2: Anita does Marie, but the courth hole was like, I
- 32:26Speaker 2: want to get back in with the popular kids, like
- 32:28Speaker 2: I won't have sex with.
- 32:29Speaker 1: Y'all know more, I promise ementary.
- 32:33Speaker 2: So the Countess de la Monte suggested to the Cardinal
- 32:35Speaker 2: that Marie Antoinette actually did want the super expensive necklace.
- 32:39Speaker 2: She just wanted to get it in secret rather than
- 32:42Speaker 2: publicly accepting it. So Marie was like, oh no, get
- 32:49Speaker 2: that ugly thing out of here.
- 32:50Speaker 1: We need to spend money on warships and the poores.
- 32:55Speaker 2: And then she was like, hey, come come back, Okay,
- 32:58Speaker 2: I don't want the necklace, but can't damn nobody is
- 33:01Speaker 2: it her that's saying that? She says a rumor started
- 33:04Speaker 2: by the Countess little boobs.
- 33:06Speaker 3: So she like has stolen the credit card and it's
- 33:08Speaker 3: kind of like, hey, look what Marie gave me.
- 33:10Speaker 1: Shed Look look she wants it. Actually she does want to.
- 33:13Speaker 2: She starts to make usper campaign's doing sort of reverse
- 33:17Speaker 2: Fara fawcets bidding. Yeah, whoa Okay, so this is obviously
- 33:23Speaker 2: gonna be like something that everybody wants to run with
- 33:25Speaker 2: because everybody knows how expensive this necklace is.
- 33:27Speaker 1: Sure, the Countess said.
- 33:29Speaker 2: Marie would be prepared for a formal reconciliation at court
- 33:33Speaker 2: if Rowan would do the dirty work of negotiating with
- 33:36Speaker 2: the jewelers.
- 33:37Speaker 1: So she's making all this up and she's.
- 33:40Speaker 2: Like, if my if the cardinal Cardinal Hoe does the
- 33:43Speaker 2: little back door deal for the necklace, that he can
- 33:46Speaker 2: get back in good with the court that he slept with, right,
- 33:51Speaker 2: this is convoluted, But okay, Countess, I'm with you, so.
- 33:54Speaker 1: She's got time on her hands.
- 33:56Speaker 2: So Countess little boobs gay, I'm sorry, so we get
- 34:02Speaker 2: something to go with now. Gave the cardinal forged letters
- 34:05Speaker 2: supposedly from the queen and set up a meeting between
- 34:09Speaker 2: the two at night at the garden of her side.
- 34:12Speaker 2: The Cardinal was actually talking to a prostitute named Nicole
- 34:17Speaker 2: Legue de Olivia, who had very slight passing resemblance to
- 34:23Speaker 2: Marie Antoinette.
- 34:24Speaker 1: But he bought it.
- 34:26Speaker 2: So she was like, so kinda's little boo was like,
- 34:29Speaker 2: meet up with this Marie at night, and you know,
- 34:33Speaker 2: this is back at night when they don't have like
- 34:34Speaker 2: street lights or anything like that. They might have a
- 34:36Speaker 2: little candle with them, but flickering in the wind if
- 34:40Speaker 2: it's windy. Oh y'all in the dark. So they meet
- 34:42Speaker 2: and she had hired a sex worker named Nicole Legue
- 34:47Speaker 2: who kind of looked like Marie Antoinette and had her
- 34:49Speaker 2: meet this man in the dark.
- 34:52Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's crazy. So Cardinal help.
- 34:56Speaker 2: Bought it disguised in a Muslim gown and veil because
- 35:00Speaker 2: it'd be nice time you gotta wear a veil. Of course,
- 35:03Speaker 2: she had a little bit of Marie Antoinette's vibe, and
- 35:06Speaker 2: she handed him a rose and whispered, you know what
- 35:10Speaker 2: this means.
- 35:11Speaker 1: You can't count on the bus being forgotten. That was
- 35:15Speaker 1: a horrible friend, Jackson, but the best being forgotto.
- 35:20Speaker 3: And you've really painted a picture of how ghost stories
- 35:22Speaker 3: get started, you know what I mean.
- 35:25Speaker 1: Flickering lights were in the musklin. We're in the veil,
- 35:29Speaker 1: as one does.
- 35:30Speaker 5: So.
- 35:30Speaker 2: Before he could continue the conversation, the Countess's accomplices staged
- 35:36Speaker 2: an interruption, cutting the meeting short. They said, oh, she
- 35:38Speaker 2: gotta go, she gotta go. She canna say no more, no.
- 35:39Speaker 1: More, no, no, no, no, no no.
- 35:41Speaker 2: So the cardinals signed a contract with the jewelers to
- 35:44Speaker 2: pledge his credit to pay for the necklace in four
- 35:47Speaker 2: installments over two years. He got the necklace, gave it
- 35:51Speaker 2: to the Countess, and she took off. Oh good for her, Yes,
- 35:56Speaker 2: she said, you keep talking about my little boves. Now
- 35:58Speaker 2: I got a big old neck I saw just well,
- 36:00Speaker 2: she's got so much, so much stern. She is the
- 36:04Speaker 2: one that can fit that necklace actually pretty perfectly. Yes,
- 36:07Speaker 2: so when the cardinal failed to raise the first installment
- 36:10Speaker 2: in full, the jewelers asked Marie Antoinette directly full payment.
- 36:15Speaker 2: She says she never heard of this whole deal and
- 36:17Speaker 2: wasn't a part of it. Was I don't know what
- 36:18Speaker 2: I'm talking about necklace, I said, no, remember warships.
- 36:22Speaker 1: Remember.
- 36:23Speaker 2: So meanwhile, Count de Lamont, who this is Countess Gossip
- 36:27Speaker 2: queen with the little books that we're gonna call her
- 36:30Speaker 2: gossip queen. Now we won't call her little boobs anymore.
- 36:33Speaker 2: All booms matter. Yeah, But so now she's just gonna
- 36:36Speaker 2: be Countess Gossip.
- 36:37Speaker 1: Okay.
- 36:38Speaker 2: So Countess Gossip's husband, Count de la Mont, had taken
- 36:42Speaker 2: the necklace to London and sold it off in pieces.
- 36:45Speaker 1: The diamonds ended up on.
- 36:46Speaker 2: The black markets of Paris, London and Amsterdam. Whoa, So
- 36:51Speaker 2: he broke it apart like they were in Mean Girls,
- 36:53Speaker 2: and he was like a little piece. Yet you look
- 36:56Speaker 2: so good in that dress, Scretchen.
- 37:00Speaker 1: It's all just diamonds and he's like tossing it out.
- 37:03Speaker 3: That's crazy that that was an option the entire time,
- 37:06Speaker 3: when nobody wanted to buy this necklace, and this guy
- 37:08Speaker 3: was getting desperate instead of going like, oh, I'll just
- 37:10Speaker 3: like cut it up and he was.
- 37:12Speaker 1: Like I can't. He my samd like that was a natural.
- 37:15Speaker 1: Next step is wild breaking up in pieces and sell it.
- 37:21Speaker 1: That's really wild.
- 37:21Speaker 2: He's an artist, Yeah, he's an artist. That's true art giving,
- 37:25Speaker 2: really emotional emo artists.
- 37:27Speaker 3: And it's part of the performance now too, So you're
- 37:28Speaker 3: buying sort of the story.
- 37:30Speaker 1: I love the consequences.
- 37:32Speaker 2: Lewis the sixteenth or Louis the sixteenth had the cardinal
- 37:35Speaker 2: arrested and imprisoned in the bastie. Now, remember the cardinal
- 37:40Speaker 2: was the one who's trying to rehabilitate his reputation. He
- 37:43Speaker 2: thought that, you know, this was going to be the
- 37:46Speaker 2: way to do it. He got scammed and he couldn't
- 37:49Speaker 2: pay back the necklace, so he doesn't have the necklace.
- 37:52Speaker 1: And he also didn't get to go back to court,
- 37:54Speaker 1: and now he's in jail. Tough, but he got to
- 37:57Speaker 1: have sex with so many people, you know what, And
- 38:01Speaker 1: that's where you know, you gotta just take your l's.
- 38:03Speaker 1: Sometimes you win some sometimes you're.
- 38:05Speaker 2: With everybody, yeah, and everybody going. Other times, you know,
- 38:09Speaker 2: when you get locked up, yeah, then you're in that
- 38:12Speaker 2: that one movie you.
- 38:13Speaker 3: Win some you have sex with everybody something, so.
- 38:17Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes you Rob. This was the exact plot of
- 38:21Speaker 1: Ye and I just say lot mis ro y'all gonna
- 38:23Speaker 1: kill me. I am a theater kid. It was she
- 38:28Speaker 1: miss Robs, Less Miserable Less. Did you like the movie?
- 38:32Speaker 1: I did?
- 38:34Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 38:34Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I love me some Anne Hathaway. I
- 38:37Speaker 2: don't know why there was a hate campaign. There was
- 38:39Speaker 2: never a hate campaign against her in the black community,
- 38:41Speaker 2: so we didn't really know that was like white people's business.
- 38:43Speaker 2: But I remember people being like, oh my gosh, Aunt
- 38:45Speaker 2: Hathaway's finally back after people had so much disdain for her, and.
- 38:50Speaker 1: I remember, like our Princess from prison diar, we always
- 38:53Speaker 1: loved her.
- 38:53Speaker 3: No, that was exclusively I feel like white theater kids
- 38:56Speaker 3: that were so mad about it in a way that
- 38:58Speaker 3: makes no sense. People are jealous that she could be
- 39:00Speaker 3: a movie star and be such a good singer and
- 39:03Speaker 3: beauty and beautiful.
- 39:05Speaker 2: And nice, and they were like, oh, look at her
- 39:07Speaker 2: getting all sacred, and she's not really that happy about
- 39:09Speaker 2: that award.
- 39:10Speaker 1: It was like, damns, can't smile. She didn't do nothing
- 39:13Speaker 1: to you. She's smile and said thank you, and they're like, oh,
- 39:15Speaker 1: it's so sacrid. It's a fake.
- 39:17Speaker 2: I'm like, listen, this is Ann Hathaway podcast. Ant Hathaway,
- 39:20Speaker 2: come on the show, Come and be hilarious.
- 39:23Speaker 3: I won't be here, but you should come and maybe
- 39:25Speaker 3: I can watch.
- 39:25Speaker 1: Now you can come back, you can Bush. I'll sit
- 39:28Speaker 1: in the corner. I'll be so quiet.
- 39:31Speaker 2: So unfortunately, Louis the sixteenth had the cardinal arrested, ride
- 39:36Speaker 2: and imprisoned in the Bestie. He was tried before the
- 39:38Speaker 2: Parliament of Paris and eventually acquitted of the charges of
- 39:42Speaker 2: having fraudulently acquired the necklace, but he was deprived of
- 39:46Speaker 2: all his offices and exiled to the Abbey of La
- 39:50Speaker 2: Chad in.
- 39:53Speaker 1: Courteous. So that's a this is where you're banished. Oh
- 39:58Speaker 1: this is excellent. Xcell looks good. I wish this was
- 40:01Speaker 1: exile because I know, like America's going to close up shop,
- 40:04Speaker 1: so I'm trying to see where I'm gonna go.
- 40:06Speaker 5: I love that.
- 40:07Speaker 1: Me and my cousins were talking about that in the car.
- 40:09Speaker 1: They were like, does zanbal Trump have a list of
- 40:11Speaker 1: where he's deporting people? Do we have a choice?
- 40:14Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sort of be like, yeah, I'll go back
- 40:15Speaker 2: to Ireland. Or whatever stay in Ireland. But the ice
- 40:18Speaker 2: situation is actually extremely serious and so fucked up. Like
- 40:22Speaker 2: I just literally look a stopo and it is just
- 40:24Speaker 2: so awful to see. But it's also really wonderful to
- 40:26Speaker 2: see how many fights I've seen online where like Americans
- 40:30Speaker 2: are out in the streets just like fist fighting.
- 40:32Speaker 3: And it's like it's it's a circle, it's coming. It
- 40:34Speaker 3: literally feels like history we're watching in real time.
- 40:37Speaker 2: Yeah, repeat itself. And since we're not teaching history anymore,
- 40:40Speaker 2: people are.
- 40:41Speaker 1: Like, now this is so new, brand new, brand new, Yeah,
- 40:44Speaker 1: and it's like, no, babes, this is real old. Yeah.
- 40:47Speaker 2: But I do like the people whose first time at
- 40:49Speaker 2: protests and now they're like, well, why do the protests
- 40:52Speaker 2: have any activities for the children?
- 40:57Speaker 5: Yeah, complained about not having any activities for the children,
- 41:00Speaker 5: complained that there was no like daycare, Like no, what
- 41:04Speaker 5: do y'all think we were doing in the sixties, or like,
- 41:06Speaker 5: I don't know, last week, we have not stopped protesting
- 41:09Speaker 5: black people.
- 41:09Speaker 1: We haven't.
- 41:10Speaker 2: But in the sixties we were walking around in church
- 41:12Speaker 2: suits and painful shoes, getting hosed and attacked by dogs.
- 41:15Speaker 2: They didn't have no child care.
- 41:17Speaker 1: Yeah, like what. Yeah.
- 41:19Speaker 3: And it's why community is so important, is that you've
- 41:22Speaker 3: got somebody that is, you know, sick or older and
- 41:25Speaker 3: they can help look after kids or like talk.
- 41:27Speaker 1: To your neighbors, you know what I mean. Like it's
- 41:29Speaker 1: so important.
- 41:30Speaker 3: It's like the biggest active resistance I think we can
- 41:32Speaker 3: do right now is like getting to know the people
- 41:33Speaker 3: around us, yes.
- 41:34Speaker 1: And building that community back up because we all need it.
- 41:37Speaker 2: And that's why there is such a huge like I'm
- 41:38Speaker 2: not going to contribute to the loneliness epidemic. Some of
- 41:41Speaker 2: y'all just don't have personalities, and so you made your
- 41:43Speaker 2: personality hate and women, and that's why you can't get
- 41:45Speaker 2: you one. I can't feel sorry if you're all broke.
- 41:50Speaker 2: I mean, work, read a book, you know, make make
- 41:52Speaker 2: books your things.
- 41:53Speaker 1: You need one. There's plenty of people who don't have
- 41:55Speaker 1: a personality, but they are They.
- 41:57Speaker 2: Have like a really intense hobby where they like go
- 41:59Speaker 2: to the convention is for it and they have all
- 42:01Speaker 2: of it and they know everything about it. I'm like,
- 42:03Speaker 2: that's a personality. That's somebody who didn't have a natural charisma,
- 42:06Speaker 2: but they were like, you know what, my charisma is
- 42:07Speaker 2: going to be like POGs.
- 42:09Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. Yes, and nobody is more pog
- 42:13Speaker 1: than me.
- 42:13Speaker 3: Yeah, we both said our thing. I was like, oh,
- 42:16Speaker 3: I love Legos and that's my thing.
- 42:19Speaker 2: I mean, we have personalities. I don't have a specific copy.
- 42:23Speaker 2: I don't know what my I guess it's scams.
- 42:25Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no, oh no, that's hard. Did I
- 42:29Speaker 1: not have a personality?
- 42:30Speaker 5: No, no, no.
- 42:31Speaker 3: I feel like scams you have to have an unbelievable
- 42:33Speaker 3: amount of personality to just the baseline to get into.
- 42:36Speaker 2: But I'm like the person who's like really into them,
- 42:39Speaker 2: So that means I'm making scams my personality. And then
- 42:42Speaker 2: I started calling myself scam Goddess. And then I wrote
- 42:45Speaker 2: a book called Scam Goddess and television show called Scam Goddess,
- 42:48Speaker 2: and this podcast is called scam Goddess. And I now
- 42:50Speaker 2: I do fraud conventions. Oh no, scamming is my personality?
- 42:53Speaker 1: You do fraud conventions?
- 42:55Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 42:55Speaker 1: I just got back from the Global Fraud Convention speaking there.
- 42:57Speaker 1: It was very cool. Is it a trap?
- 43:00Speaker 3: I feel like it's a trap to be like, hey, honest,
- 43:03Speaker 3: come to the fraud Convention.
- 43:05Speaker 2: It's the worst place you want to be if you're
- 43:06Speaker 2: a criminal. Because everyone is a sloth. Everyone is like
- 43:09Speaker 2: in the FBI, or everybody's a forensic accountant or they
- 43:11Speaker 2: work for the Irbrest. Like I learned what a lot
- 43:14Speaker 2: of these people do, and I was like, this is
- 43:15Speaker 2: the worst place to be a criminal, because you got
- 43:17Speaker 2: all the nerds together and they're all like very specifically
- 43:21Speaker 2: focused on catching like certain types of fraud do.
- 43:24Speaker 3: They have events where they're like, we're going to do
- 43:25Speaker 3: one little crime and then everyone's going to have to
- 43:27Speaker 3: try and figure it out and whoever figures fastest.
- 43:29Speaker 1: It's so fun. That's for free.
- 43:31Speaker 3: That's for free for everybody, for y'all go ahead and
- 43:34Speaker 3: take that.
- 43:34Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta guess who's the criminal. It's like, that's
- 43:37Speaker 1: so fun.
- 43:39Speaker 2: Yes, well he was exot to this big, beautiful place gorgeous.
- 43:44Speaker 2: To me, that's not quite a punishment. It sounds like
- 43:46Speaker 2: you got to have last of sex and then just
- 43:48Speaker 2: like a brief stay and a clink and now you're
- 43:50Speaker 2: living your days out in a manchione.
- 43:52Speaker 3: So literally just like a garden, a beautiful garden, probably
- 43:55Speaker 3: like two thousand bucks a month or something like that
- 43:57Speaker 3: for a beautiful, like big bedroom.
- 44:00Speaker 1: It was inherited, so oh, yeah, no money.
- 44:02Speaker 3: No money, free someone else's money.
- 44:05Speaker 2: So the Countess de Lamont was sentenced to be flogged,
- 44:09Speaker 2: branded and in prison for life who at the Celepetriere
- 44:14Speaker 2: prison in Paris, she was branded with a hot iron
- 44:19Speaker 2: with the V for voleus, which means thief.
- 44:24Speaker 1: A volus I speak Spanish, guys, you're so which means thief.
- 44:32Speaker 2: So she got branded like so everybody would know from
- 44:36Speaker 2: there on that she was a criminal.
- 44:39Speaker 1: And when you think.
- 44:40Speaker 2: About like today's timing, like unless you get like, unless
- 44:43Speaker 2: your crime is so famous that they do a documentary,
- 44:46Speaker 2: like that's kind of our branding now is like Hulu
- 44:48Speaker 2: puts out a doc about you, and now we all know,
- 44:52Speaker 2: oh my gosh, while it's happening crazy. Did you see
- 44:55Speaker 2: the advertisement on Hulu for the Diddy documentary. I'm not
- 44:59Speaker 2: gonna talk about ditty or that he did because that's
- 45:01Speaker 2: gross and he's we know, he's a bad, horrible, horrible person.
- 45:05Speaker 2: But what was shocking to me was that it would
- 45:07Speaker 2: be like every day that they were having court, then
- 45:10Speaker 2: the doc would be up like today in court, I'm like, what, hey,
- 45:14Speaker 2: you're making a documentary.
- 45:15Speaker 1: He's literally it's literally happening.
- 45:18Speaker 2: Yeah, like they they're so thirsty to be first now
- 45:21Speaker 2: that I feel like they're like running out of the
- 45:23Speaker 2: courtroom and just like uploading it, just like how I
- 45:25Speaker 2: posted Instagram, Hulu posts like it's.
- 45:28Speaker 1: All vertical switch together with cap cut documentary with Capcuit.
- 45:34Speaker 1: It was crazy. And you know, you know, you know,
- 45:36Speaker 1: we love Hulu here, Okay, we love and go in touch.
- 45:40Speaker 2: We love Hulu. Who my best friend who. Hulu's really
- 45:45Speaker 2: lifted me up in my times of me so.
- 45:48Speaker 3: And I think you're the most talented person on the planet.
- 45:50Speaker 1: So we love Hulu. We love them right there next
- 45:54Speaker 1: to me.
- 45:55Speaker 5: So.
- 45:55Speaker 2: Also, the flogging here is getting me. So flogging is
- 46:00Speaker 2: like when they like whip you with a with a.
- 46:03Speaker 1: With a whip. Oh, is that what it is? Yes?
- 46:06Speaker 3: I think maybe because flog rhymes this log. I am
- 46:09Speaker 3: just picturing like a plank, you know what I mean?
- 46:12Speaker 3: That can't be right, Like she had.
- 46:13Speaker 1: To just hold a plank. That was like herment. Yeah, yeah,
- 46:16Speaker 1: she's getting jacked. Oh no, like getting hit with a plank.
- 46:21Speaker 3: But I think it is just because flog rhymes with Okay,
- 46:25Speaker 3: that is so.
- 46:25Speaker 1: Much more intense. It's yeah, it's when you get hit
- 46:27Speaker 1: with a whip, but getting here with a plank?
- 46:30Speaker 5: Right?
- 46:31Speaker 1: The hell?
- 46:31Speaker 3: Did you see da Vinci Code? Is this what happens
- 46:33Speaker 3: in Da Vinci Code with the Paul Benny Benny?
- 46:36Speaker 2: I didn't see it, but I'm guessing that it probably
- 46:38Speaker 2: is because it was like a big Christian act too,
- 46:40Speaker 2: like like self flagellation.
- 46:43Speaker 1: Yeah, where you like whip yourself. Yes, yeah, there we go.
- 46:46Speaker 2: And so not only did they put a V on
- 46:49Speaker 2: her chest so people could tell if she was coming,
- 46:52Speaker 2: they also whipped her ass like that's crazy like, and
- 46:56Speaker 2: they threw her in jail like she got all the punishments.
- 46:59Speaker 3: Her seems worse than the guy that was the one
- 47:03Speaker 3: that like actually had his fingerprints over everything.
- 47:06Speaker 2: Well, he technically thought he was paying mystery, it was
- 47:10Speaker 2: stolen from him, so that's why he was let out.
- 47:13Speaker 2: He got to go to the mansion. But she straight
- 47:15Speaker 2: up did set up the whole scam and scheme. So
- 47:18Speaker 2: she started rumors in court, remember, and she set up
- 47:21Speaker 2: the scheme, and so they were like, well we go
- 47:23Speaker 2: ahead to be Joe Ass and Brandy Man with throwing
- 47:26Speaker 2: you in jail, like that's a lot of prison, I
- 47:28Speaker 2: mean a lot of punishment.
- 47:29Speaker 3: I feel like if I mean, like I don't know
- 47:31Speaker 3: sort of like what the the what the sort of
- 47:33Speaker 3: the business world was like at that time. But I
- 47:35Speaker 3: do feel like that could end up being like a
- 47:36Speaker 3: calling card, be like look what I did, I was
- 47:38Speaker 3: able to. I didn't get away with it, but like
- 47:40Speaker 3: look at.
- 47:40Speaker 2: All that scammery intoinette. Yeah yeah, she's definitely like famous
- 47:44Speaker 2: in jail. Like she's like a gin Shaw in jail
- 47:47Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah, yeah, she's definitely famous. So in June
- 47:52Speaker 2: seventeen eighty seven, oh our good sister, Countess gossip Akay,
- 47:58Speaker 2: formally formally known as down to his Little Boobs.
- 48:03Speaker 3: I love that you changed her name so you didn't
- 48:05Speaker 3: have to say little boobs anymore.
- 48:06Speaker 1: But it is just kind of fun to say. Unfortunately,
- 48:10Speaker 1: just need to remind people.
- 48:12Speaker 2: Yeah, So in June seventeen eighty seven, she escaped from
- 48:15Speaker 2: prison dressed as a boy. Okay, see those little boobs
- 48:19Speaker 2: came in handy, saved her life. Saved her life. So
- 48:24Speaker 2: she left dressed as a boy. She fled to England
- 48:27Speaker 2: and published scandalous memoirs Shit Talking the Queen.
- 48:32Speaker 1: I love this person so much.
- 48:36Speaker 4: Incredible it's writing tell all like you left jail and
- 48:40Speaker 4: instead of quietly like living as someone who has fleed prison,
- 48:44Speaker 4: you were like, I'm gonna start, uh, letty whistle boobs
- 48:49Speaker 4: count just little boobs, little whistle out like in England.
- 48:53Speaker 1: And just talk shit about the queen. My goodness.
- 48:57Speaker 2: So the full title is Memoirs of the Contessa de
- 49:02Speaker 2: la Monte, containing a complete justification of her conduct and
- 49:06Speaker 2: an explanation of the intrigues and artifices used against her
- 49:11Speaker 2: by her enemies. Relative to the diamond necklace, that is
- 49:14Speaker 2: the title.
- 49:16Speaker 1: Snappy, very snappy tongue. Oh my, that is a.
- 49:25Speaker 2: Long ass title and I love it. In here, She's like,
- 49:28Speaker 2: it's a it's an explanation of her condent. I'm sorry
- 49:31Speaker 2: her her conduct and how her enemies were hating on her,
- 49:37Speaker 2: and how really we can justify what she did.
- 49:41Speaker 1: She's like, first of all, it was justified. Second body,
- 49:44Speaker 1: it was all hating on me.
- 49:46Speaker 3: I love this too, because she's I guess, theoretically been
- 49:48Speaker 3: in jail for years at this point, right, I mean.
- 49:51Speaker 1: She got out in seventeen eighty seven, and let me
- 49:54Speaker 1: see what she was flogged. Check the flog date.
- 49:58Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta look at the flog date to see
- 50:00Speaker 2: if she was in jail very long, because I want
- 50:02Speaker 2: to say that she wasn't.
- 50:04Speaker 3: Okay, because I'm like, then, I guess it is topical.
- 50:06Speaker 3: But even if like two years had gone past, surely
- 50:08Speaker 3: other things have happened at this point, you know.
- 50:10Speaker 2: What I mean, after seventy four, So I think seventeen
- 50:15Speaker 2: eighty five is when the scam episode.
- 50:17Speaker 1: Seventeen eighty seven. She couldn't have been there long.
- 50:19Speaker 3: Yeah, like three years. Yeah, so I guess long enough
- 50:21Speaker 3: that people would remember it. But they would have been like,
- 50:23Speaker 3: oh right, that thing that happened, or maybe news just
- 50:26Speaker 3: didn't move as fast at that point in time.
- 50:28Speaker 1: But it was funny, of course not.
- 50:30Speaker 3: But then she wrote an entire book and got it
- 50:32Speaker 3: published and got distribution. People would have been clamoring for
- 50:35Speaker 3: that distribution. Let's be honest.
- 50:37Speaker 1: Well, I think that it's not a book.
- 50:40Speaker 2: It does say memoirs, but pamphlet at the newspaper, lady whistled.
- 50:46Speaker 3: Now she's mean girl style back to the Crown, just
- 50:49Speaker 3: like ripping out pages and like throwing it down the
- 50:51Speaker 3: hallway for people to read.
- 50:52Speaker 2: Yes, that was definitely and I guess they have some
- 50:56Speaker 2: of them. So she did this in seventeen eighty nine,
- 50:58Speaker 2: A bad bitch you could never kill.
- 51:00Speaker 1: Yeah, really incredible. So yeah, it's like a.
- 51:03Speaker 2: Little gossip break, Yeah, that she's just throwing out to
- 51:06Speaker 2: the people and talking her shit. So though Marie Antoinette
- 51:09Speaker 2: didn't actually do anything wrong here, the scandal confirmed the
- 51:12Speaker 2: belief of French people at the time that she was
- 51:15Speaker 2: morally loose and frivolous. Oh what she got to be
- 51:18Speaker 2: moral and loose, So people were looking for reasons to
- 51:22Speaker 2: hate on her, right this Marie Antoinette. I'm kind of
- 51:25Speaker 2: low key don't believe a lot of the stuff that
- 51:27Speaker 2: they say about Marie Antoinette, because isn't it historically inaccurate?
- 51:30Speaker 2: Like didn't she she never say let the meat cake?
- 51:32Speaker 1: Yeah, wasn't it somebody else? Or she said something?
- 51:34Speaker 2: Yeah, they said that was made up, And I'm like,
- 51:36Speaker 2: she was just a babbage, and y'all was just hating
- 51:38Speaker 2: on a babbage and that's what I was giving.
- 51:41Speaker 3: It really is so tricky because it's like, I totally
- 51:44Speaker 3: understand people being frustrated and being like you're so rich
- 51:46Speaker 3: and like nobody is doing anything, but also too, I
- 51:48Speaker 3: would imagine being a woman during that time, she didn't
- 51:51Speaker 3: really have any power in the situation.
- 51:53Speaker 1: Did she Maybe she did talk about those warships.
- 51:58Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a bunch. She just talked about them, get
- 52:01Speaker 2: them right. She was like looking at them. She was
- 52:04Speaker 2: like she was shopping for a war she.
- 52:06Speaker 3: Was shopping for a worship. Couldn't find the one in
- 52:07Speaker 3: the right color that she liked.
- 52:09Speaker 2: So they already didn't like that. She was originally from
- 52:12Speaker 2: Austria rather than France. She was relatively uneducated, she spent
- 52:16Speaker 2: a lot of money, and France itself was being like
- 52:19Speaker 2: they were in a recession.
- 52:20Speaker 1: So this was putting.
- 52:21Speaker 2: Everybody in a really bad mood. Yeah, recession is putting
- 52:26Speaker 2: it lightly. These people were starving on the streets, Like,
- 52:30Speaker 2: is that what we're calling a recession? Now it seems
- 52:32Speaker 2: like a little recession. People stopping on the streets, you know,
- 52:35Speaker 2: giving away to babies. Yeah, yeah, no home, no clothes, Yeah,
- 52:39Speaker 2: scraping and scrown.
- 52:40Speaker 1: Tough, tough, tough.
- 52:42Speaker 2: Look, yeah, but you know the markets will be back
- 52:44Speaker 2: up soon, like now we're back in some present day.
- 52:47Speaker 3: Yeah, it is really tough because it's like, on the
- 52:49Speaker 3: one hand, like did Marianne Toinette say, let the me cake.
- 52:51Speaker 3: Maybe not, but she is like, I don't know, I
- 52:53Speaker 3: was really hoping for red worship and they only have
- 52:55Speaker 3: it in silver, right, and that's really tough.
- 52:57Speaker 1: She didn't say it, but she kind of said it
- 53:00Speaker 1: with her action.
- 53:02Speaker 3: We're making it snappy or somebody punched it up for her.
- 53:04Speaker 3: Actually they're doing her a favor exactly.
- 53:07Speaker 2: So the arbitrary arrest of the cardinal and that's Cardinal
- 53:12Speaker 2: horny Man, remember, Yeah, the pressure put on his judges
- 53:16Speaker 2: and the final disgrace made the king look weak and
- 53:19Speaker 2: his government looked tyrannical. This whole like necklace situation happened
- 53:24Speaker 2: and it was remembered. Count just gossip, count justus little boobs, hm,
- 53:30Speaker 2: remember or talking shit about marine Swinette is saying that
- 53:34Speaker 2: she was trying to buy this necklace. So all of
- 53:36Speaker 2: this makes the king look weak, right, It looks like
- 53:38Speaker 2: the women are running the court, and how dare women
- 53:42Speaker 2: run things?
- 53:43Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 53:43Speaker 1: You know, because of that pesky you know, womanhood of course. Classic.
- 53:49Speaker 2: Yeah, So the king now looks really weak and his
- 53:53Speaker 2: government also looks like assholes because of y'all over here
- 53:55Speaker 2: talking about a seventeen million dollar necklace while people are starving.
- 53:57Speaker 3: That is so funny that They're like, the people are
- 54:00Speaker 3: really happy.
- 54:00Speaker 1: It must be because some Gave men are running the court.
- 54:02Speaker 3: That's got to be it.
- 54:04Speaker 1: That's why they're unhappy. Yeah, we can't have women running
- 54:07Speaker 1: things because people are starving and dying.
- 54:11Speaker 2: Yeah, it's because of these ladies. And back to present day.
- 54:14Speaker 2: We could have had Kamala Harris. But but y'all were like, no,
- 54:18Speaker 2: not a woman. Yeah there where a woman this No, no, no,
- 54:22Speaker 2: we will take the criminal who is literally robbing us
- 54:25Speaker 2: blind and important citizens.
- 54:28Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's not even blind. He didn't even bother.
- 54:30Speaker 2: He was like, no, I'm stealing from y'all. When did
- 54:33Speaker 2: my jet get here? Now, he's definitely gonna try to
- 54:35Speaker 2: take that jet when he leaves office.
- 54:37Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one thousand. He's like putting his name on it,
- 54:40Speaker 1: call my name on it. What are you gonna do
- 54:42Speaker 1: with this? Is come my name on it. It's Trump
- 54:44Speaker 1: And no it's for men. They said I could take
- 54:46Speaker 1: to one thing. Reagan did it. Somebody somebody had had
- 54:48Speaker 1: a plane, that classic role when you leave the presidency,
- 54:51Speaker 1: you get to take one thing with you.
- 54:54Speaker 2: But like I think he's trying to play it, Like
- 54:56Speaker 2: I think what he's gonna do is pretend like he's
- 54:58Speaker 2: putting it in his presidential library, because presidents in the
- 55:00Speaker 2: past have done that.
- 55:02Speaker 1: But then it's going to disappear. The plane is going
- 55:05Speaker 1: in the library. The plane is gonna teach kids how
- 55:08Speaker 1: to read. There's no drag queen story time. There's gonna
- 55:10Speaker 1: be plain story time. They're gonna get in the plane
- 55:12Speaker 1: and they're gonna learn to read. So good, we got
- 55:15Speaker 1: the best people from the military.
- 55:17Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, these wives will be teaching.
- 55:20Speaker 1: The wives have the bachelor degree. It's fine, it's fine.
- 55:23Speaker 3: You're doing an excellent impression. I can't even try.
- 55:26Speaker 2: Oh it haunts my dreams. Well, I guess those would
- 55:29Speaker 2: be called nightmares. Dream with trumpet, it is not a dream.
- 55:34Speaker 2: So they already hated on Marie, right, and now like
- 55:38Speaker 2: the king looks weak because all this stuff is going on.
- 55:41Speaker 2: You know, everybody's gasiping. So the diamond necklace incident was
- 55:45Speaker 2: one of many factors leading to the end of the
- 55:47Speaker 2: political and social systems in France and therefore to the
- 55:52Speaker 2: French Revolution, including Marie ant Antoinette's.
- 55:56Speaker 1: Death by guillotine. Yeah.
- 56:00Speaker 2: So all of this basically got ramped up because of
- 56:03Speaker 2: Countess Little Books and her scam.
- 56:06Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like and her gossip, and it kind of
- 56:09Speaker 3: seems like the winner in all of this is the
- 56:11Speaker 3: guy that she used.
- 56:12Speaker 1: What's his name again? Oh, let's go with that. No,
- 56:17Speaker 1: de La her ex husband.
- 56:19Speaker 3: They stay together, this guy, right, because he sort of
- 56:23Speaker 3: he was the mark though, but it didn't he end
- 56:25Speaker 3: up just like getting cardinal hornets. This is kind of
- 56:29Speaker 3: he was the mark, right of course. So it seems
- 56:30Speaker 3: like the husband is the one that sort of walked off.
- 56:33Speaker 1: Really kind of won. But I think the husband did
- 56:35Speaker 1: end up having to go to somebody's jail, right, but
- 56:38Speaker 1: the husband kind of won. So so okay, there you go.
- 56:41Speaker 2: So the affair probably should have bankrupted the jewelers Bomber
- 56:45Speaker 2: and BassaNge, but their company is still around today.
- 56:50Speaker 1: And I mean there's Do we like these areas? Yeah?
- 56:58Speaker 1: That one.
- 57:01Speaker 5: Do?
- 57:01Speaker 1: I like the only ear ring We can see things?
- 57:03Speaker 3: Right?
- 57:04Speaker 5: Oh?
- 57:05Speaker 2: Whoa?
- 57:05Speaker 1: So it's so listen.
- 57:08Speaker 3: Art comes in all forms and sometimes people it's good.
- 57:13Speaker 1: Do you like it?
- 57:14Speaker 5: Oh?
- 57:16Speaker 1: Can we zoom in a little bit? Yeah? Maybe it'soman
- 57:18Speaker 1: a little bit more.
- 57:18Speaker 3: That's gonna be the problem is we're just not seeing
- 57:20Speaker 3: it's maybe zoom out a lot more. Actually, yeah, maybe
- 57:25Speaker 3: farther away, way so far, that's much better.
- 57:28Speaker 1: And then let me just okay, when I look at
- 57:31Speaker 1: it from back here, now, oh yeah, that's that's good.
- 57:35Speaker 1: That's a good thing. Huh.
- 57:37Speaker 3: I almost like a jellyfish, if I'm being honest, like
- 57:39Speaker 3: a sexy jellyfish.
- 57:41Speaker 2: It looks like something you would find that Claire's in
- 57:44Speaker 2: that like a half off, like a seventy percent off.
- 57:47Speaker 1: Then okay, here's what I'll say about it. That's good?
- 57:50Speaker 4: Is it?
- 57:50Speaker 1: From far away?
- 57:50Speaker 3: You can tell that she's wearing ear rings. So if
- 57:53Speaker 3: you want people from a far to be able to
- 57:54Speaker 3: tell that you're wearing an ear ring, like that is
- 57:56Speaker 3: absolutely accomplishing it.
- 57:57Speaker 1: They're gonna be They're gonna know how much is that?
- 58:00Speaker 1: Is this one of those things where they don't put
- 58:01Speaker 1: the prices on the website? Is it so expensive that
- 58:03Speaker 1: they don't put the price on the website? Like inquire within?
- 58:06Speaker 3: And then they say that you have a Gmail account,
- 58:07Speaker 3: They're like, we're not.
- 58:08Speaker 2: Even gonna send this back to your poor you can't
- 58:11Speaker 2: afford this. If you need to know the price, that
- 58:13Speaker 2: means you can't. If you can't afford it.
- 58:16Speaker 1: For home, we we Okay, this, No, no, okay, we
- 58:22Speaker 1: have to post that photo on the low way. What
- 58:26Speaker 1: kind of joys are you making?
- 58:27Speaker 3: If you like this, I will support you one thousand
- 58:29Speaker 3: percent bad for you in the comments.
- 58:31Speaker 2: I want you to have it if it's what you want,
- 58:34Speaker 2: because that's all jewelry, right if like it's like my
- 58:36Speaker 2: mom used to like those Pandora bracelets, and I'm like,
- 58:38Speaker 2: I love that for you.
- 58:39Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you.
- 58:40Speaker 2: Like that Pandora because it is like a multi level
- 58:44Speaker 2: marketing like scheme where it's like, you buy the bracelet
- 58:47Speaker 2: within every year, you got to get her your little
- 58:49Speaker 2: charm to commemorate the bracelet, so you're buying the bracelet
- 58:53Speaker 2: forever forever.
- 58:54Speaker 3: It's a multi level marketing scheme for you.
- 58:55Speaker 1: Never stop buying the bracelet. Yeah, okay, those are now
- 59:00Speaker 1: found something that Yeah, it's a lot of diamonds. Okay,
- 59:04Speaker 1: okay to like it and then we really see it
- 59:08Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, it's.
- 59:10Speaker 3: Like you know what, Okay, here's what they should do.
- 59:11Speaker 3: This light show is happening every like three seconds, they're
- 59:13Speaker 3: flipping through sides. If they were flipping through these sides
- 59:16Speaker 3: like at likeo point five seconds, so we were literally
- 59:18Speaker 3: just getting flashes. Oh yeah, then we'd be like like
- 59:21Speaker 3: if you were having a war flashback or something like
- 59:23Speaker 3: the Mad Girls Club, Like no, like logo, like why
- 59:27Speaker 3: do I this whole.
- 59:28Speaker 1: Top tanic ash jewelry? Yes, it's very My heart will
- 59:31Speaker 1: go on every piece one thousand, every piece needs to
- 59:34Speaker 1: be worn into old age and then thrown into the ocean. Ocean,
- 59:37Speaker 1: m and on that note that brings us to the
- 59:41Speaker 1: end of a fantastic episode. Are amazing, Lacy.
- 59:45Speaker 3: I literally, I truly cannot tell you what a fan
- 59:47Speaker 3: I am of this podcast. I've been traveling and I've
- 59:49Speaker 3: been listening to it over and over again. So I've
- 59:51Speaker 3: been listening to your voice for so long I'm not
- 59:53Speaker 3: like being in person and watching your voice come out
- 59:55Speaker 3: of your mouth in real time is very surreal. So
- 59:58Speaker 3: it like, truly, I'm such a fan, and foremost.
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I want to come do your show.
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: View have to. We're going to beg you.
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: And now that's Is there anything else you want to
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: plug where people can see you all those things?
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: Transgender Law Center obviously with a lot of horrible, terrible
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: and no good, very bad things going on. As a
- 1:00:17Speaker 3: really wonderful resource. Go follow them or find truly any
- 1:00:20Speaker 3: local organization that you feel strongly about. I've got a
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: lot of LGBTQ ones that I feel really strongly about,
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: but truly, anything that is doing good in your community
- 1:00:28Speaker 3: at a local level, please go follow, go support. Even
- 1:00:30Speaker 3: if you can't monetarily with your follow and your signal
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: boosts would be great.
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: That's what I would like to plug. I love that. Yeah,
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: And then for us, I guess I'm just going to
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: be the capitalist here.
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: See I V A l A C I D with
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: Lacy on all platforms if you want to see the
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: photos of all.
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: This beautiful jewelry, beautiful jewelry, beautyful. It's so it's big,
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: it's big, and it's there and you can see it
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: big jewelry big, just not a lie. I was like,
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: I can say real fast, but jewelry. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: Then you can go on Scam Goddess Pot on Instagram
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: or scam got his Pot on Twitter if you'd like
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: to chat with me. All episodes of Scam Godess are
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: streaming now on Hulu. All the first season of Going
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: Dutch is also streaming now on Hulu and who Knows
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: By this time I might.
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: Already be back in Ireland.
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: So remember my different and then my book scam Goddess.
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: You can purchase where books are sold or audio books
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: and charity definitely do that, yes, And I had to
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: bring up I feel like I just sold way to me.
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: No, Listen, here's the thing is, like I think that honestly,
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: taking you create so much joy, and all of your
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: things create so much joy. And I think like preserving
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: some peace and like having joy to go like donate
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: to charity and do work and stuff like that is
- 1:01:47Speaker 3: also really important.
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: And like, Vick, I know you're really involved in these causes,
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: but like I feel like because your plug was so,
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: I'm like, people are gonna listen to this and be like, Okay,
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: they just like gave us some good resources to help
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: the community. And then I'm like and buy my stuff
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: and by this stuff and boy that stuff okay, am
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: I Marie Annette, I'll.
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: Do one too.
- 1:02:08Speaker 3: I'll do I'll do a one that that's like fun too.
- 1:02:12Speaker 3: I like Slinky's. I've gotten back into Slinky's recently, So
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: go find one online, buy it from a big box store.
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: And so that's my other plug.
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: It's not even yours. You're not going to receive any prozi.
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: No.
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: Sitting here with an angel, it means just a little devil.
- 1:02:29Speaker 3: That's what I keep telling everyone.
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: But I want y'all to get out there and hmm
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: mm hmmmm. I want you to get out there. Okay,
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: you know what, congregation. I want you to get out
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: there and stay contesting.
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: Okay, contest things and also be a contessa or account goddess.
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