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S6 243. Rod and Pete - Rethinking Eternal Security, part 3 · Millennial Mustard Seed

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  Hello folks, this is Princess. You are listening to the
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  virtue because it's an end around between this whole
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  corrupt informational system, media system.
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  spirit realm, even though His word tells us that they do.
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  and they weren't permitted to go to heaven, so they wander the
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  earth. You know, I've seen the eyes
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  turn black to. Unknown.
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  Tongues being spoken. These giants would love way up
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  in the Highland, the young Braves.
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  The young men would hide up in the trees and wait for one of
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  these 12 footers to come walking down the bath and they would
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  jump on them and kill them, drag them back to the village and the
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  village would feast on the body. Then people start to get
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  weapons, they start to get armor, they start to build
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  cities, they start to fortify their cities.
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  Now God looks down and there's violence everywhere.
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  The battle this. War that we are at is not
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  against each other, it's against these principalities and these
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  rulers and these archons in the high places.
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  It's really worthwhile to read the Bible yourself.
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  Fear is one of the primary drivers of mind control because
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  we have to take every thought captive and resist fear.
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  You're going to have a testimony that is a justice case against
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  the Kingdom of darkness. Welcome back everybody to
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  another mini episode. I'm here with Rod from the
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  Millennial Mustard Seed. Here we are again.
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  Here we are again, and we're continuing this series on
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  rethinking eternal security. And this is Part 3.
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  And we're going to continue with kind of where we left off with
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  Matthew 7, as we were talking about recognizing them by their
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  fruit, true and false prophets and true and false believers,
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  that a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
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  A good tree cannot bear bad fruit.
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  And just a little sidebar on that guy's, that one always
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  throws me off, especially when I, I think of the way John puts
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  it in some of his writings where it's like, you know, a good
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  spring is not going to have bitter water.
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  And I go, well, I have some bad fruit from time to time.
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  I, I think there's an all or nothing way to look at this that
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  can really get us tripped up. So put that on the shelf for the
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  time being and ride if if you want to read this through, What
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  we're going to do is reread that section.
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  But we're going to start with verse 15 of Matthew 7, and we're
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  going to go all the way to verse 23 and we're going to take a
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  close look at what many have termed the scariest verses in
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  the Bible. Not everyone who says to me,
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  Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of heaven.
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  And I used to always think, oh man, it's describing people who
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  are doing these wonderful things for God and they're not saved.
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  Oh, that's scary. Am I really saved?
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  You might think to yourself, well I have a different theory
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  on what this is actually saying, and it comes from the context of
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  true and false believers, prophets, disciples, and
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  discernment. Well, I'll start here in verse
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  15, Matthew 7, true and false prophets.
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  Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's
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  clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
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  By their fruit you will recognize them.
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  Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes or figs from thistles?
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  Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree it
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  bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad
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  fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
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  Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and
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  thrown into the fire. Thus by their fruits you will
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  recognize them. And not everyone who says to me,
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  Lord, Lord, will enter the Kingdom of heaven, but only the
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  one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
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  Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophecy
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  in your name, drive out demons in your name before many
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  miracles? Then I will tell them plainly, I
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  never knew you away from me, you evil doers.
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  Yeah, so if we look at this in the context of everything Rod
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  just read, Jesus is warning us about wolves in sheep's
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  clothing, right? The not everyone who says to me
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  Lord Lord section is not about a genuine believer who did amazing
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  miracles for God, but somehow some mysterious way Jesus never
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  knew them. No, that's not what this is
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  about. This is about those who appear
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  to do wonderful works. Maybe they even do somehow.
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  Maybe it's deceitful. I don't know.
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  But what's interesting is they kind of toot their own horn and
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  say look at all the the good things that I've done.
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  They're trying to justify themselves by their works.
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  And a genuine believer, if you're at the gates of heaven
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  and God says, why should I let you in?
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  Every genuine believer knows the answer.
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  Because of Christ. His blood covers my sin, and I
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  am white and clean, and I have the garments to enter the feast
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  and the banquet. But here we see the false sheep,
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  the wolves who are standing on their own works to try to get in
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  and Jesus calls them out. So I think it's a warning for us
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  to watch out for those that appear to be Christian.
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  There's many verses about be not deceived.
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  And you know that the the weeds that are sown among the wheat
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  and God says let them both grow up because if I pull out the
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  weeds before they're at harvest time, I might damage some of the
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  wheat. In fact, Rod, I'm thinking of an
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  episode that I pulled many months ago as I investigated a
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  guest that was not who she claimed to be.
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  One of the people that I talked to who corroborated that this
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  person was not trustworthy, had a very solid relationship with
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  that person for a time and knew them quite well.
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  And he was told by God to not completely expose this person
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  because there were so many people who were following this
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  false person whose faith would be shaken if they were exposed.
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  And so he was instructed to simply trim around the edges,
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  not cut the whole tree down yet, and to expose the doctrines, not
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  the person. So hopefully this gives you guys
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  some food for thought. But Rod, I want to get your
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  comments on this. What do you think about kind of
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  this idea that that this is not about a genuine believer that
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  somehow mysteriously didn't make it in and we should be fearful
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  versus what seems to be the context of a false believer?
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  Well, yeah, I mean in the concordance as we're reading
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  along and Lord, you know, when I pull up G2962 Kohirios Kohirios
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  supremacy supreme and authority controller, Mr. as a respectful
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  titer title. And this is directly the G2962
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  that is in Matthew 7, the the scary verse 21.
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  And so just as an overview on all of this, you know, I think
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  about the verses that I've stored in my heart where the,
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  you know, how I strengthen myself and the Lord as I
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  identify that he is the author and the finisher of my faith.
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  And I look at the fact that a righteous man falleth 7 times.
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  It doesn't mean seven times like a cat has 9 lives.
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  It means 7 is completion. Like God knows every sin that
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  you were going to commit, that you did commit and that you're
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  going to at some point in time because let's just be honest
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  here. You can't say you have no sin
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  and deceive yourself. We don't practice sin.
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  We don't teach sin, we teach righteousness.
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  And you know, just as an overview, Pete, you know, the
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  crux of the issue, in my opinion, is personalized
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  relationship and, and diving into the text with the motive
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  of. I want to know the truth.
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  I want to be set free from other people's ideas and religious
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  systems and titles and, you know, the impending pressure of
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  all of these different groups within Christianity and then,
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  you know, Scientology and and atheism, and they're all trying
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  to push their agendas and perspectives and their own
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  ideologies on anybody who's passing by.
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  But God has a different prescription for us.
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  The one who was complimented, one of the women during a time
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  where Jesus was in a house, there was Mary and Martha. 1 was
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  so busy trying to make amends and and serve and make
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  everything look a particular way.
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  And another one was just enamored, sitting at his feet,
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  learning from the gestures, the compassion, the calloused hands,
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  the wandering worker that had mercy in his heart.
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  I want to be captivated by that. So as I look at this, once
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  saved, always saved, and and I start to wrestle through, I
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  think about how the Lord has ministered to me in this area.
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  And don't get me wrong, it's not a license to send and go do
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  whatever you want. There's days I feel like I'm
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  walking the tightrope. But to be genuine here, we're
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  not slaves any longer. We're friends of the Lord.
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  I'm a friend of the. King, Amen.
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  And that's the kind of relationship I hope that you
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  guys get to cultivate based on challenging the narrative and
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  slowing down to just really get a deeper and better
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  understanding of what does faith look like and how do I get
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  secured. And so there's some can of worms
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  I'm going to open down the road. I'm intentionally holding myself
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  back from going down some of the rabbit trails that as Pete
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  giggles because we're we're smiling at each other right now.
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  We've had these conversations off air pretty thoroughly.
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  We're not walking into this thing blind, but we understand
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  the process that we have went through for over the years to
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  even grapple and chew the meat that we're offering back to you
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  guys now. So we want to do it diligently,
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  respectfully and in bite sized chunks as Pete mentioned in an
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  earlier recording. And so I'll just kind of pass it
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  back to you, Pete, because I mean, that's what my heart is
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  doing with the information. Like I'm learning, I'm being
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  challenged. I'm I'm zooming out and
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  listening and taking the whole council and just being still at
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  times knowing not everything is always as it seems.
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  We we really do have to be malleable, if I can put it that
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  way. If we take a look at one of the
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  verses here in that section, not everyone who says to me, Lord,
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  Lord will enter the Kingdom of heaven, but only the one who
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  does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
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  I kind of made the observation of what is the will of my Father
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  in heaven. We obviously know that's not
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  works based salvation. Jesus wouldn't teach that.
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  That's unbiblical. I think we can all agree.
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  So what is that? It dawned on me that just prior
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  to this, again, in the context Jesus is talking about the
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  fruit, and by their fruit you will recognize them.
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  So if fruit doesn't save us, rod, but it's evidence of a good
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  tree, then perhaps the will of my Father in heaven is us to
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  have fruit. Now think about how Paul
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  elaborated in Ephesians that God chose us in him before the
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  foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless.
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  Ephesians chapter one. That's the will of God.
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  So I don't think it's about work, salvation, but rather
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  evidence of what kind of a heart do we have.
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  Hopefully this gives you guys some more things to chew on.
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  As you said, Rod, this is this is meat.
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  This isn't the milk. Here.
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  We're digging into some things that maybe haven't been
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  presented in a thoughtful way. Not that others haven't done it,
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  but maybe in your experience of life you haven't heard it
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  presented this way and and maybe this gives you guys an angle to
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  kind of chew on a little differently and make your own
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  observations of scripture. I can only think of the grace
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  that's required to do this. When you walk in your calling,
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  you're given a measure of grace and it's so important that we're
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  looking, not idolizing and not obsessing over people.
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  We are looking to increase and yield fruit 130 sixty what,
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  whatever that is. And this is a tool.
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  I really do believe if the apostle Paul was alive right
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  now, he would be on a podcast. And I love podcasts because I
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  can pause it, Fast forward scroll through the.
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  Heat But he would not be eloquent of speech, so you guys
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  would have to put up with them. Yeah, yeah, we, you know, maybe
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  you could listen all night long and instead of falling out a
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  window, you could just listen in your bed with Airpods in your
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  ear and just fall asleep on your nights comfy pillow.
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  But I mean, you know, some some humor is obviously necessary.
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  And in totality, what I'm looking at is I'm biased to the
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  podcast and game because what a better way to have a
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  generational blessing, something that gets passed on.
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  I mean, it's not just the right now, but Pete, just imagine in
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  10 years from now, someone's listening to this and it's
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  helping their face. Like I, I was with Michael
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  Basham a couple weeks ago in North Carolina and we're
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  listening to, Oh my gosh, the original future quake from like
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  back in 2005 that like kind of started the fringe Christian
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  airwaves, you know, old content. But there's, you know, LA
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  Marzulli was on back then, right?
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  Derek Gilbert was on back then and, and now here we are in 2025
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  and God is using our voices. And this is meant to be a
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  blessing to encourage you as a listener and to build momentum.
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  And in a lot of ways, just grabbing the torch and saying,
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  you may not have heard it this way.
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  And I'm going to season it with gentleness.
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  And I'm going to be mindful and make sure that the words are
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  salt. So, Pete, I love doing these
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  minis because everything I just said is is wrapped up right
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  here. Our voices, our time and our
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  effort does not go to the wayside.
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  It's an honor to be here with you, man.
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  Appreciate it, Rod. So we'll wrap up there with Part
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  3 of Rethinking Eternal Security.
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  And when we come back for Part 4, and it may not be the next
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  mini episode you hear it might be, we'll see.
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  We're going to unpack what I started to talk about on the
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  last episode, which was the difference between once saved,
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  always saved and eternal security, and how those things
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  are different and what is the security that is biblical.
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  So with that, we'll wrap up. God bless and goodbye.
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  A yard. Hey, I came from the sun.
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  The one around straight from the Evans.
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  You really owe me. All of my life I was beating up.
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  All in my life I didn't handle. All in my life I was stuck in on
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  track. All in my life I didn't handle
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  rap. I didn't know why my life was
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  away. I didn't know why my life was
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  away. I didn't know why I couldn't get
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  up. I was so stuck and the muggy was
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  stuck till I fell down and I broke everything till I fell
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  down and they took everything until I was hurting my heart and
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  was strained. Yeah, I was broke and I had all
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  this pain held on home and got harder than this hope.
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  Then I went to the side of the smoke.
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  I had no truth but to look to my guy.
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  He gave me stomach. He gave me earrings and he told
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  me I'm blessed. He told me he just believe in
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  this time. I told him I can't change all of
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  my ways. He said I got you.
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  Just look at this time, I look see him.
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  He showed me his ways. They just told me how I am this
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  time. They just told me I'm not in
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  this world. He told me I'll come from the
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  heavens above. I'm a new creature.
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  I come from the sun, from the one and only straight from the
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  heavens. You really owe me.
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  I came from the sun. I was really with him.
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  And heavenly places. I'm ceiling.
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  Y'all can't even go that way. Y'all don't even know that way.
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  Y'all want to play like Patty cat but this ain't no game.
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  But it's right. You wank this so fake when you
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  walk under me and I know you a snake you think you can beat me
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  but you got no power you want in a way I take out that trouble
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  I'll put on your top and I'll prank on your face.
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  I see you laughing. You think that you got me but
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  you got no way. The evil you say for my life is
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  OK because it's made for my hood.
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  My God is created. He created you so you really is
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  good. I said all these things is I
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  know when he's true and you know you were go like a *** you know
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  winning games you can never win. I know the things that's going
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  to happen to you when you die. You didn't live in your life
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  'cause you know you can never go and say you know it's crazy.
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  His mercy was too from you when you're my son in the plot
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  thought you could take on my God's spot now, but you can die
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  hot. You was really tweaking.
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  I come from the sun, from the one and only straight from the
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  heavens. You really on me?
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  I came from the sun I was really with them.
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  And heavenly places I'm gonna see the living.
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  Y'all can't even go that way. Y'all don't even know die.
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  Y'all want to play late Patty cake, But this ain't no day but
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  a stairway.