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Capítulo 064: Rizos Reina, Julissa Prado · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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  Speaker 1: and we have we just want to remind you all
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  Speaker 1: some of the events that we'll be having in June
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  Speaker 1: and um, some of our upcoming library workshops as well.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so the Library workshops have been so much fun.
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  Speaker 1: We just wrapped up our three part podcasting one o
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  Speaker 1: one series at the Sun Valley branch and UM that
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  Speaker 1: was a really incredible experience because we've never done a
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  Speaker 1: multi part workshop series before and there were folks who
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  Speaker 1: went to all three UM sections of the workshop offering
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  Speaker 1: and really by the end these mohas UM predominantlycent of
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  Speaker 1: them were like Latinas who came to all three workshops,
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  Speaker 1: and then by the end they really I think had
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  Speaker 1: and it's just like the next step is to now
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  Speaker 1: record and put it out there. So UM, if you
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  Speaker 1: oh one workshops UM at a local Los Angeles Public
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  Speaker 1: Library branch, we have some opportunities for that coming up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So June fifteen, which is a Saturday at three o'clock,
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  Speaker 1: we will be at the Cohuena branch, which is on
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  Speaker 1: Santa Monica Boulevard in l A. We're really excited to
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  Speaker 1: to be facilitating that workshop. And then we also have
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  Speaker 1: one on will share on June two. June from two
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  Speaker 1: to three pm, and we have a couple of July dates,
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  Speaker 1: but we'll you know, keep plugging the June ones. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So if you couldn't make you know, the workshops so far,
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  Speaker 1: we have them coming up through the summer all over.
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  Speaker 1: We're basically covering all of the l A Public Libraries.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like it feels like it. Um. It was
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  Speaker 1: so funny because I had there's there's like an l
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  Speaker 1: A made pamphlet like a brochure, and we picked him
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  Speaker 1: up at Sun Valley and I took them home and
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  Speaker 1: my dad like anytime he sees a vista, I go,
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  Speaker 1: he says. So he picked up the pamphlet and it
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  Speaker 1: was oh to stake and I said yeah, and he
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  Speaker 1: just started laughing and he was like oh and he
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  Speaker 1: loved actually saw our picture on it, and then was
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  Speaker 1: like seeing all the dates and he was like wow,
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  Speaker 1: like y'all have been doing all of these Yes, yeah, me, yes, Poppy,
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  Speaker 1: keep up. It's really fun. That is really cute. Now
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  Speaker 1: we were on the cover. We made the cover cover
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  Speaker 1: girls l A Maid. So thank you to the l
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  Speaker 1: A Public Library for having us. It's been a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fun. It's been really great. Yeah, and we're we
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  Speaker 1: have more more announcements basically in addition to the workshops,
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  Speaker 1: more cute fun things we're going to be doing with
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  Speaker 1: so so going back, we have some other additional events
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  Speaker 1: in June. I will be at the Love Thyself Festival.
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  Speaker 1: I will be representing the both of us and giving
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  Speaker 1: a guide to Goddess worship workshop and so many dope
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  Speaker 1: people are going to be there. You can get your
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  Speaker 1: Arianna Hippieca is putting it together. And you might know
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  Speaker 1: Adriana as the one who designed the iconic look at
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  Speaker 1: our radio logo. Yes that's her, and then she also
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  Speaker 1: did for us our flyers for Local Alive for the
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  Speaker 1: last installment beautiful flyers. Love those flyers agree, so come
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  Speaker 1: on out. Yes, and then I will also be on
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  Speaker 1: a panel that We All Grow which is on June one,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be on it with Raquel and Mariella
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  Speaker 1: from Hip Latina is curating it or Um moderating the panel.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm super excited to be there and hopefully that
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  Speaker 1: y'all can check it out digitally because I do know
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  Speaker 1: that it's sold out and I'm excited to be participating
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  Speaker 1: in that. Yeah, that's a really a conference. It's a
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  Speaker 1: really huge event, so it's exciting. UM that is going
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  Speaker 1: to be there. Yeah, hopefully we'll both be there next year.
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  Speaker 1: We All Grow Seedy, You're listening, were available? Who Then
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be traveling again at the end of
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  Speaker 1: this month, at the end of May. Yes, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to Northwestern. Yes, We're going to Northwestern. Very exciting. So
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  Speaker 1: I'll be in Chicago, UM new city. I've never been
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  Speaker 1: to Chicago before. I've never been to Illinois, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: very excited. I went to Chicago one time when I
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  Speaker 1: was sixteen with my mom. We had like a little
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  Speaker 1: trip because I was checking out a university and they
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  Speaker 1: flew me out for like a scholarship. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was like a scholarship competition, I know. So my
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  Speaker 1: mom and I went and it was so cute. But
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  Speaker 1: obviously I haven't been as an adult, as a grown up,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm dexcited to, you know, be there in the
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  Speaker 1: Midwest as we know it, as we know now, we
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  Speaker 1: but thank you, thank you stars for having us. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So onto one of my favorite segments, and that's lokas
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  Speaker 1: where we answer listener questions. We answer whatever questions you
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  Speaker 1: look on motives might have for us. So let's get
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  Speaker 1: it started. What do they want to know? So it's
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  Speaker 1: been a hot minute since we've had local segment. It's
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  Speaker 1: true this first question is timely as we are recording
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  Speaker 1: Mother's Day weekend. That is so true. Funny, Okay, good
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  Speaker 1: by the time y'all hear this Mother's Day will have
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  Speaker 1: come and gone. But this is a you know, revolving question. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts about the pressure within Latinox
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  Speaker 1: communities to have kids. Well, the pressure is real. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's we can call it a pressure. We can
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  Speaker 1: call it also, I think an expectation socialization a norm.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's an expectation that women that Latinas have children. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that it's something that whether even like
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  Speaker 1: parents like mine who don't necessarily talk about it all
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  Speaker 1: the time, it still comes up as if it's like
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  Speaker 1: a matter of fact, like well, when you have your kids,
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  Speaker 1: oh well, when your kids come, well, when you become
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  Speaker 1: a mother. You know, I don't think anyone's ever asked
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  Speaker 1: me do you want to have kids? It's been a
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  Speaker 1: very de facto it's going to happen. Absolutely mistressful, I know. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think now that I'm in a committed relationship,
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  Speaker 1: my family very much is now we'll ask me questions
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  Speaker 1: about marriage, about having children anytime soon. And like I
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  Speaker 1: get that it's you know, comes with good intentions and
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  Speaker 1: there's no malice behind it. But I'm like, why don't
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  Speaker 1: y'all ask me about my career? Like why don't y'll
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  Speaker 1: ask me about what I'm doing, like you know, but
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  Speaker 1: instead you asked me about when I'm getting married and
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  Speaker 1: when I'm going to have kids, and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: me particularly feel a special kind of pressure because my um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm sure this, my brothers are
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  Speaker 1: significantly older than I am, so we have a fifteen
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  Speaker 1: and eighteen year age gap, a gap, so they have
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  Speaker 1: like grown kids, well growing kids, and then an actual
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  Speaker 1: grown kid he's twenty two. Um, So I do feel
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  Speaker 1: a type of pressure that I'm not there yet, you
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  Speaker 1: know that I haven't had kids yet. And I also
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  Speaker 1: feel a responsibility to take care of my mom because
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  Speaker 1: I'm the I'm the single one, right, I have no
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  Speaker 1: I'm not married and have no kids. So it's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: why wouldn't you be available, Why wouldn't you come to
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  Speaker 1: the function? Why wouldn't you do this and this and that?
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  Speaker 1: Because you're single and you have no kids? Like what
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  Speaker 1: in your life could be that important? Exactly you don't
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  Speaker 1: have a child exactly exactly more important. Yeah, So I
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  Speaker 1: do feel like that kind of like familiar pressure that's
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  Speaker 1: like I should always be present because I don't have
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  Speaker 1: those things that are like quote normal, Yeah, but what
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  Speaker 1: my my families do have, Like I'm really the only
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  Speaker 1: one that doesn't have kids, right, So that that makes
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  Speaker 1: you stand out in that way. Yeah, I think too.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a specific type of pressure to have
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  Speaker 1: children in a particular context, right, So especially in my family,
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  Speaker 1: there's an emphasis on you need to get married, like
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  Speaker 1: you need to be married and have kids with the
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  Speaker 1: same person, all your kids with the same person. And
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  Speaker 1: that's a sort of like that's the Catholicism, and that's that, this,
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  Speaker 1: that and the other, and that's sort of like social
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  Speaker 1: conservatism that we have a lot of times in our
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  Speaker 1: families and to like, you know, I am probably at
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  Speaker 1: this point, like one of the only primas like of
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  Speaker 1: my generation and of my kind of age bracket that
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  Speaker 1: didn't start having kids really young, you know, Like I
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of cousins who started having their kids
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  Speaker 1: at like fifteen sixteen, and so we you know, love
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  Speaker 1: our cousins, and we love our big family and all
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  Speaker 1: the babies my parents. Just I really want something very
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  Speaker 1: particular for me, like in the way that my kids
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  Speaker 1: come about. So I also feel a pressure to like
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  Speaker 1: you know, quote unquote not to make a mistake or
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  Speaker 1: like do it correctly, Like you have to follow the
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  Speaker 1: trajectory of like first you get married through the church.
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  Speaker 1: Through the church, you have the big old church wedding, yes, right,
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  Speaker 1: and then maybe you have kids like within the year
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  Speaker 1: or two within one year. Yeah, within twelve months. I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying I do I should be exactly exactly good question.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for that. Yeah, yesterday was like Latin American
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  Speaker 1: Mother's Day or for Mexico and yeah, and then Sunday
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow is like American Mother's Day. It's also tomorrow too. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it just depends on the is. Like
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  Speaker 1: for some countries like Mexico, I think what the mala
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  Speaker 1: got it? I'm not are on the Central American countries,
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  Speaker 1: but May it's just all about moms. May it's for moms. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, we're and we're not. It was so funny
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  Speaker 1: because my best friend, my homegirl, Jackie, Um, she was like,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm a firm mom. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I told her. I was like, well, I'm a firm mom,
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  Speaker 1: and she was like, you can't really say that. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: this is true. Like I wouldn't tell a mother with
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  Speaker 1: kids like, well, I'm a mom too, because that's that's
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  Speaker 1: I think that that's slightly offensive. It's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: because I didn't carry a kid. You know, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: carry that for nine months in my room, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. So like I wouldn't actually call myself
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  Speaker 1: that to a mother that has like human childchildren. No,
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  Speaker 1: that's real because we can talk about right, like there's
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  Speaker 1: already a devaluation of motherhood. Absolutely, and so then to
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: take it a step further and be like, oh I
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  Speaker 1: have a dog, yeah, absolutely, it's absolutely not the same.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I would never say that. You know, we joke,
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  Speaker 1: got it, We got lots of jokes, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: their hood should one be valued, respected, paid, like the
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  Speaker 1: exactly what you said. The de valuization of motherhood is
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  Speaker 1: so real. And that's because it's it's almost like because
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  Speaker 1: we're socialized to believe that it has to happen, right,
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  Speaker 1: it's just natural for women to be caregivers and caretakers
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  Speaker 1: and that's it, and then the role of mom is
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  Speaker 1: the only role. Yes, I'm remembering now, like Okay, we
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  Speaker 1: were not going to necessarily do a weird things white
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  Speaker 1: women did this week, but it's almost like pivoting, right, so,
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  Speaker 1: like where things white women do and say about motherhood.
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  Speaker 1: Even remember when Beyonce was doing her maternity, and that
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  Speaker 1: white bitch was like, being a mother does not make
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  Speaker 1: you a goddess or special or this. It's not divine, this,
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  Speaker 1: that and the other. And I'm like and she she
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  Speaker 1: wrote that and said it in response to Beyonce's maternity
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  Speaker 1: and Beyonce, as we know now having gone through miscarriages
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  Speaker 1: and I think still birds and all kinds of really
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  Speaker 1: difficult like pregnancy issues and her poor body and like
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: just going through it, and how dare you? How dare
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: you would? Also like Black women experience the highest rates
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: of mortality when pregnant. While pregnant, there's the likelihood of
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: them and their child surviving is like significantly lower compared
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: to white women. So when we're talking about like celebrations
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: of pregnancy and motherhood, like it's very political and it's
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: like you have to like locate it in the community
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: that's talking about it. Absolutely absolutely, So, Yeah, we value moms,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: love our moms, respect to mothers. We're just not mothers
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: yet or ever. I don't know, girls, I don't know.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I think that if we were to ever have children,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: that we which should definitely have like a planned pregnancy.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I like it. We have them at the same time
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: burn at the same time. Oh my god, then they'll
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: have the same signs. Are we ready for that? What
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: if they're all geminis? No? What if we just have
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: a ton of geman? Now refuse, I refuse. My mother
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: is a Gemini. Okay, So I feel like I can
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: say this No, no, the answer is the answer is no.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: That's funny anyway. Next question, So this is a great
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: question about body hair. Do y'all have mustaches? And what
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: recommendations do you have for hair removal? I love this
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: question because it's so real, because you know, the answer
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: is yes, Like we all have sucking mustaches, just two
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: different degrees. Women have facial hair, yeah, like we have normal.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: It's normal. We have hair follicles all over our body,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: all over. I myself a very hairy and as far
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: as hair removals, I used to bleach. You know, I
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: went through the bleaching phase too. Why did I do that?
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Why did my mom let me do that? I don't know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: you know what it was. What's interesting thinking back is
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: like all the fucking, hairy, fucking Latinas that we grew
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: up with and went to school with, and just we
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: have hair all over and that was just the thing
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: that we were doing was just bleaching. I remember, for
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: like this girl from my middle school for her eighth
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: grade graduation, her gift was like she got her arms
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: arm hair lazard. I was so jealous. Okay, yes, I
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: wants I still want that. Like I told my mom
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the other day, I'm like, Mom, I'm thinking of getting
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: lazer hair removed on my arm. She's like, do it, yes,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: do it go. She wants me to be hair like yeah,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: you know, like no body shaming, like you know, love
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: that's us too, Like as I I don't. I don't
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: like necessary ideas. Ada. I think I've like come like
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: two terms with trying to like love and like you know,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: love my body hair. But you know, I just I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: don't want it sure, And that's a personal decision. Has
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with like what you may like and
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: what you want. It's really true, you know. I mean
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: it's such a complex thing. Like I just have memories
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: of like being super hairy in middle school and like
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I hadn't started shaving my legs yet. And this girl,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: this white bitch was a little white girl that was
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: in my class, like the one and she was like, oh,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: my god, you look like an animal. You need to
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: shave that I know, and it traumatized me. And so
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I'm fine, like I'm cool now, but like things like that,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: we hear those things. Yeah, Like I remember in middle school,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: like people would make fun of my arm hair, so
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I I like it would never take my sweaters off,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and it would be hot, like hot hot hot my
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: sweater on at all times because I didn't want anyone
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: to see my arm hair. So you know, I think
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: about those things like now when I'm just like I
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: want to go through the hair removal process, I like
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I take into account that there was like some childhood
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: trauma with that, and like I'm gonna do it probably.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: And what's interesting is I feel like a lot of
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: that commentary came from other girls and it's just like
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: regulating each other and policing each other in those ways.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Um So now, like as far as my face, I
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: really like, um either waxing, Like if I'm going to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: get my eyebrows wax, I'm like take it all, get
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: rid of everything. Or I used to do like the
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: full face threading, and I am so down I'm an
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: advocate of threading. I used to go here, on Caesar
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: travez Um. I think the women are Bangladeshi and they
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: do an incredible job. So I would go there and
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: get my full face threaded and that ship lasts, so
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I recommend you're so brave. I um okay. So I
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: had really light hairs, like on my upper lip, so
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: it didn't bother me, and I never wanted to. Every
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: time I would go in, they would be like, oh,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: do you want your upper lip? And I was like,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: they always asked, They always asked, right, And then one
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: time I was getting them, um getting my eyebrows wax,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: and the girl like forgot and she did it and
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: then she felt really bad about it, but it was
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: too late, so she did it. So now I do
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: it regularly because it started, you know, but before it
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: didn't really bother me. It still doesn't really bother me now.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: But but I you know, lots of lipstick. My mouth
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: is definitely like the focus of lots of photos. You know,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: people are looking at our mouths, people look at our mouth,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: people are looking at our teeth. Shadow gentle Care Dental
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: shout out gentle Care. That's right, they did our teeth whitening,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: like yes, um, so yeah, that's a good question. I
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: mean hair removal. It's such a thing. It's such a thing.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: We got fine, there's a listener here. What of Karen
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: from Williams over here to Spasio? So yeah, thank you
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: for that question. I mean recommendations. Different skin types respond
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: differently to hair removal methods. Yeah, you know, if you're
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: on any like acne medications, don't wax like it'll break
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: your skin. Yeah, you just need to, I think, really
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: figure out the method that is not going to harm
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: or damage your skin, because we don't want to like
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: irritate our skin in the quest to be hairless. You know,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: it's not worth that sacrifice. No, I agree, you know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: just like there's it's obviously like more complicated than like
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: just love the skin you're in, but you know, like
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: whatever makes you feel good, like that's we advocate for. Oh,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. Yeah, alright, next question, that question, Yes, what
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: did you all do for fun? This question was so
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: funny to me when I saw it, because I was like,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know what we do? We have fun? Yeah,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I'm like, are we ever not working? Sometimes? We had fun? Okay,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I had fun last night. We did have fun last
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: fun last night. So I was telling the right, like
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I have been basically on like a sex and dating hiatus,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Like I have not gone on a date a date
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: since um and hooking up. They're really like it has
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: not been great, Like I really haven't gotten you know,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the type of sex that I need and want and
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I'm accustomed to. You know why you'll and you know,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing Like with the thing with like
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: one night stands is like you don't know what you're
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: going to get and it's usually nothing, and it's usually
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: not that good at least in my experience, Like first
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: times are just never really the best because you're like
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: still trying to figure out like how it goes, exactly,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: figuring each other out each other's rhythms and stuff. So
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the last good situation I had, this guy was here
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: from out of town and he broke my bed friend
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: remember this story. So that was like the last good
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: you know, like hookup that I had. But it was
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: what like over a year ago more my hair was
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: still short. I think, right, it's been a long time.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: You have some like good luck with like out of towners.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: This is a girl because last night was the same situation.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: They don't make him good in l A. Apparently they don't.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Eli's trash, Ella's garbage. And if you ask anybody who's
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: like single and trying to date in l A, it's
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: l A is a terrible wasteland of a place. So yeah,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I know, I highly recommend to all my l A
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: bitches and out of towner get you out of town
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: because then they'll be gone, and they'll be gone. You
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: have to see him. But no, Like I had a
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: nice situation yesterday and I'm like, oh my god, my
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: my hoe tree is revived, Like I can I can
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: bring my hoka out of retirement now, so excited. Yes, yeah,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: so that's what I do for fun. Res utilize your hokie,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: utilize what do you do for fun? I love, love, love,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: love to go dancing. That's like I feel like I
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: don't really do it as often as I used to
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: because you know, I'm not single anymore. But even like
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: to this day, like just being able to go dancing
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: is just one of my favorite things to do in
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: l A or just in general wherever I'm at. Like,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I love like some music, I love any type of
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: you know, Latin South American music. Um, yeah, definitely, that's
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: like one of my favorite things to do. Um, brewery hopping.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I love. I love a brewery hop Like I love
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: to start at one and go to the others like
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: nearby because they're usually like close to each other. Um. Yeah,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I agree, Like l A is great for dancing if
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: you like to go dancing, and me too. I think
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: that that's one of the I'm guaranteed to enjoy myself
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: and have a good time if the music is right,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: if the people are right, and folks are dancing, I'll
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: be on the dance floor and I'm gonna have a
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: great time. Yeah. There's a night that I really like,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: um in downtown and it's Samericana, and my family and
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I will usually all go to that and it's really
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: fun because it really it's it's a little more mainstream now,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: like I think a lot of people go, but when
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: they first started doing it, it was very like in
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: like within intra community, like within the South American community
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: here in l A. Like it wasn't really packed. And
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I think now like everyone goes, which is really dope. Um,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: but that's definitely one of my favorite nights to go. Yeah,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and that's at the Continental Coal Continental. Good music, Good dancing,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: so I would say, yeah, dancing is definitely something that
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: is an amazing thing to do. For fun, I like
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: to like veg out and stay home. Like my fun
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: has changed, morphed. If I can be at home and
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: just chill with my dog and my mother, I'm having
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: a great time. I love also like getting like having
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: take out and like eating at home and like watching
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: some Netflix. Absolutely, we like we like the boring you know, yeah, like,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: let's value the boring stuff because we're so tired. We're
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: so tired. We're always tired. I mean, you know, we
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: rally and we keep it pushing, but yeah, we're tired.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I mean I think more and more I value, Um,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I value the fun of hanging out with my family,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: hanging out with my sister. She has a dog, Jabba.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: I have a dog, Papa. They're best friends, the dog park,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: just living like our suburban lives. I agree, Um, that's
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: how I feel. Like. Also with my partner, like he
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: like I didn't realize this about Sagittarius, but Breathe the Hood,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: which was tweeting about how she's seeing a Sagittarius and
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: she was like, Okay, y'all, what do I pack for
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the weekend, everyone was like basically like pack everything because
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: you never know what you're gonna do. And I didn't
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: realize that to be true, but it is like we'll start,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: like if we spend our sundays together, we'll start like
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: somewhere that we plan, and then we'll end up somewhere
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: that we didn't plan. And like hug and I think, now,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, this is why I've grown a love for sneakers,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: because I just can't keep up in my heels anymore.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: So I just like have to put the sneakers on
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: when I'm with him. She's an altering bitch. Now any environment,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: anywhether ready to guys, I'm ready, I'm ready. All right,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: thank you for all those wonderful look ask questions. We
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: love getting your questions and seeing what's on your mind. Alrighty,
• 29:26
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  Speaker 1: very valuable. Alrighty, So we're really excited to bring on
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: our next guest for the second half of this capitulo.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: We have the amazing Julisa Prello from Riso's Curls. So excited.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: We've been trying to get Julisa on the podcast for
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: a while. She's been one of our dream guests because
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: she's just really out here killing the fucking game. Julissa
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: was born and raised in l A. She is of
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Mexican descent, and she is the founder and CEO of
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Reso's Curls, a Latina owned hair care line aimed at
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: embracing and celebrating the beauty of curls, kinks and waves everywhere.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Riso's Curls was born out of a lifetime of frustration
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: for Julissa with a beautiful crown of curls, but an
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: advocate products on the market, Julisa spent years developing the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: perfect formula that would ultimately become Riso's Curls. Fast forward.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: After being on the market for more than a year
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: being an advocate for natural curls, helping women the beautiful
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: and felt confident in their natural hair textures, Reso's Curls
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: has amassed a global following of risos reins and has
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: been shipped to over fifty seven countries, all under Julisa's
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: passion and leadership. And Julisa does a lot Aside from
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: being the founder and CEO of Reso's Curls, she is
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: an active national speaker aiming to shine a light on
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the topic of female empowerment with speaking roles at places
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: like Harvard, the U S Department of State of the
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: United Nations. She's also proud to be a co founder
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: of Lasas Crew, and organization curating events and workshops for
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: female empowerment and entrepreneurship. Julisa has a master's degree in
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: business from wake Force University. She's an alumni of u
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: c l A, and she has held corporate leadership positions
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: at nest Lee. In other words, Juliusa is a boss bitch.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: She does it all, damn and and and and and
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and and and um from it and ship and we're
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: really excited to have our next guest in the studio
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: with us today. So uh, we are incredibly excited. We've
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: been trying to get this morehead on the podcast for
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: a minute. Now. We have jet to the Jet Center.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: She's busy, she's all over the place. But we have
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: in the stew we have in the studio Julius Oprado.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: You know her from Rizo's Curls. Julisa, can you say
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: hi to listeners? Introduce yourself. Oh my god, I am
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: star struck. It is a look at our radio in
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: love lesh. So I'm so excited to be here. Y'all
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: are amazing. I've been girlfriending y'all for a while now.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Um and yeah, I'm Julia Brado, CEO and founder of
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Resource Curls Curly Here product line. And yeah, I'm I'm
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: excited to be here with you all. Yeah, same girl.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I've been following you on i G for a while
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: and like you have been living your best life and
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just like sending your stories to Mala, like okay, goals,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: like I want to be when I grow up. We
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: were we were really like into your Coachella experience. Every
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: outfit I was like, oh my god, look at the
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: looks that Ju Lisa is serving at Coachella. Living girl
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: fashion que like the outfit fashion que comes through though
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: they love fashion. Que Jusa, you're here, We're in our
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: fem tech quarter. You are CEO, founder of Rizzio's Curls.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit more about what
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: you do about your company, about your journey, and about
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: being a curly heard queen all the above? Yes. So.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Um growing up in predominantly Latino neighborhoods, Um, I was
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: always around my family and community, and I noticed that,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: you know, the majority of us had some type of
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: texture to our hair, like whether it was like a
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: little bit of a wave, whether it was curls, coils,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: whatever it was. For so many of us, we had
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: to straighten our like we strained our hair. And Um,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I remember that. I always tell the story of like
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: people always asked like, what was the first time that
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: they thought of girls, And I'm like, actually it was
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: when we're going to and my cousins, like back in
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: the day, like in the hood, they didn't really have
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: flat irons like that yet, so they used like the blanch,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: like an actual blanche, like an iron. Yes to iron
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: your clothes. So they put my head. I was like ten,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: and they put my head over an ironing board and
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: they ate in my hairshirt with the clothes iron. And
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: let me tell you, I thought I was all that
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: because I got so many compliments after I gotta dig
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: the compliments, Like I was like, yo, I'm like the
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: hottest girl in the whole school of ten years old.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: You know, that's like bringing back so many memories for
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: me right now, because it was such a thing to
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: straighten your hair. Every single day it was straight, and
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to have a straightener. My mom would
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: not buy me one. And in middle school, everyone was
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: straight in their hair and my mom was like, you're
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: not damaging your hair, like you're not doing it. She
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: was real, but she would she wouldn't let me, and
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I was devastated. I was devastated. She would use a blanch, No,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: she would use anything. I couldn't put any heat on
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: my hair. Interesting, which is probably for the best, Yeah,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: you know it is in the long run. Yeah. So
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: that was me getting my hair blanch with the freaking
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: with the clothes um and I just remember being on
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: the ironing board and thinking like there's got to be
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: a better way. So um, I kind of that's kind
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: of where I started embarking on this journey to learn
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: how to sell my hair. So um I started my
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: my my dad opened up his own So my dad's
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: the history of my dad is like he crawled through
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: the sowers to come to this country, like you know barely,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: you know, had like ten dollars in his pocket type
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: of thing. His first job was like picking oranges in
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the fields, and then he started working as a dishwasher
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: and moved up and up and would save all his
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: money's and um, when I was around like thirteen years old,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: he started his own like his dreams always started his
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: own restaurant. So he started out his own little restaurant.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: My dad, Um, now his English is like I tell him,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: it's poppin. You know he had but I'm like like
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: you American dad, But back then he didn't speak English
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and he only everyone just go like two years. So
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: like I kind of managed the like business side of it,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: and then he did all the food. So I grew
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: up in a restaurant with my dad, and like my
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: money's was like my tips that a lot of the customers.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Since I was just like, you know, such a good
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: little thirteen year old helper, they would be I mean,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I knew how to hustle these customers, you know. I
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: would be like, I have a school project on Friday
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: that I want to buy crayon, like that would give
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: me like an extra ten dollars or something. So anyway,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: so I had my money's like years old, so we're
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: already an entrepreneur already, okay, So um, I would save
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: up all my money's and like buy every curly product
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: out there, and I was I always felt like they
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: were like selling dreams with regards to my hair because
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: the majority of the products either were like for beach waves,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: or they were way too heavy for my hair, or
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: they would just provide like hold, or they would just
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: like and then for me, especially during that time, like
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I was straightening my hair like every single day, like
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: you guys mentioned, so my hair was damaged. Um, so
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I felt like I needed a product. I need something
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: to not just like moisturized, not just hold, but like
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: to extra define and like give my curl, my my
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: pattern a little help because it was like it was
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: already damaged like lacking from the heat damage. So I started.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: So my grandma Um on my so my Maulita's both
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: of them actually, but specifically on my mom's side. She
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: was like the um, like the she she was the
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: one that would like birth, like help birth all the
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: babies in the pueblo. So she yeah, so she was
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: like super. She would do all the little medicines, like
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: she had all these little jars and like um you know.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: So anyway, so from her Um, I grew up. Like
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: when I was little, I had xama on my scalp
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: and she would she cured me by using like savila
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: like olivera, and she would scoop up the inside and
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: use it as a mask on my scalp. And she
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: always taught me to like turn to the earth, to
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: care for our bodies, to care for our ourselves, like
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: on the inside and out. So with those learnings, like
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I grew up for me like natural ingredients
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: and like turning to the earth was always something that
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: came very natural because that's how I grew up with
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: her Um. So I started making my own concoctions at
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: home because I couldn't find products that worked for me.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: So I had like my little liman for like extra hold.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I would have like my little like um little savvy
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: lab mixes for like my scalp like I would do
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: like all these little concoctions. I would have flax seed
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: for like gel like. So I would carry them around
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: a little zip blog bag. Then I'll keep a storm
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: in the fridge and I would have my little lemon
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: and my little friends would call me the Liman girl.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: But my curls were bopping right. I was like, y'all
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: hate it now, but my curls out here flourishing. So
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I would run into a lot of I would call
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: them undercover curlies, like so many girls, especially like I
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: felt like Latina's were the biggest culprits of this because
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: for so many of us, our texture is the kind
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: that allows us to not need like chemicals to necessarily
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: It's like so easy to just flat iron it. It's
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: so easy to to strain it. It's not like we
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: gotta go do it at a specifics a lot. It's
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: like we could do that at home. So there were
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: so many undercover curlies. Um, so these girls like I
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: would run into them, like in the bathroom, my dorm
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: room in here and here, and they would be like,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: my hair's actually curly. It could never look like yours.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: And then I would be like, well, girl, where do
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: you live? And I would like go over to their house.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: They would come to my house. I would go to
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: their dorm when I was in college, and I would
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: do their hair and I would teach them how to
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: do it, and for all of them it was their
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: first time like seeing their hair styled naturally, and I
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: would teach them a little concoctions and I would see
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: them the next week with like their little zip blog
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: bags or a little demon or whatever, and they would
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: start like wear rocking their natural hair. And when my
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: formulas took four years to create. Later when I was like, okay,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: this whole like doing at home is like it's really
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: hard for it not to be spoiled, and like I
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: don't want to get sued with, like I want to
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: make sure like this is like FDA proved, and like
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know it's going on a person's head, yeah,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and I don't want it to go back. I can't
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: be like a y'all can only put it out of
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: the bag for like thirty minute, put it in the fridge,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: because then it starts to smell like you know what,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: it was all natural, like you're not using chemicals, and
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, So anyway, so the formulas
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: took four years to create, but once I actually launched,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: like all those girls that I had helped throughout the years,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: those like fifteen years since I was like freaking like
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: fifteen years old, they all became my first customers. Like
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: they were all the people that right away they were
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: messaging me like, of course I'm going to buy this.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: It's been ten years since you taught me this. I
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: met you in the elevator at this place, and um,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: of course I'm gonna support you. Like I'm still using
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: the same kind of process like thank you so much,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and so I had forgotten like it
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: was like hundreds of people I had encountered. That's amazing
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: the community showed up for you in that way because
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: you also gave, like you gave a lot of you know,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: your knowledge and your resources, and then they also gave
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: it back to you. Yeah, which for me it was like, um,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: it was like that's how I knew that this was
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: like my path. This was like you know, my, my, my, my, my,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: passion is because I was doing it when you know
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I wasn't. It was like I did it because of
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: that's what felt right in my heart and not because
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I was like making any money or even thought of
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: it as a business. Um. But yeah, and I love
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: the way that the knowledge was passed down from your
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I would leave that to you and like the herbs
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: and the natural like ingredients. Yeah, because you know, since
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: we are in our FM tech quarter, like that's exactly
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: what you described is what we call fem technology, right,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: and the way it is passed down and the way
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: that we can maybe reframe the way we think about science,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: right and stem because what you were describing your doing
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: like medical, that was the science, right. It was definitely medicinal.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: It was definitely scientific, but maybe it wasn't considered that
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: when she was doing it. I remember going up when
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I was little, like she would always have a little
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: arnica flower and then she would use make tea. She
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: would like always use ana like she would boil it
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: and like put like whenever someone was injured, like you know,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: clean us with it or whatever. And then when I
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: got old, started getting older, started seeing that in pills now,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: and I'm like yo, Western medicine is finally catching up.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: But when you I was little, like that was like
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: oh this like this is not you know, it wasn't
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: respected as something that um actually works. And then now
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: like these doctors will prescribe it as like go get
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: these tablets of ana. It's like it's been gentrified, like
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: the natural like indigenous remedies really get gentrified and get
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: eaten up and swallowed up by corporate medicine and corporate tech.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I think this is a really good place to ask
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: you about, in general, your thoughts about hair care and
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: and beauty products and hair products as technology. Yeah, so
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: what a lot of people don't realize about the like
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: hair care space and beauty space in general is like espe. Actually,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: when stylists go to cosmetology school, they go to learn
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: how to cut hair, deal with hair um. In our
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: society curly like what's been the norm is always straight hair.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: So it's like you learn what the norm is is
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: straight hair. So everything that they're taught in schools, they
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: don't ever teach them how to style naturally curly hair.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: They teach them how to strain it, they teach them
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: how to cut it when it's already straight. Like everything
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: is conducive to somebody who has straight hair. Like even
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: what they learn of like how many times do shampoo
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: or hair how what kind of ingredients? Like all these
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: things that they're learning is all about the norm for them,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: which is straight hair. And and a lot of people
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: think is like, oh, curly hair or textured hair is
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: so difficult, Oh my god, it's so this, and it's like, no,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: it's not that it's difficult. It's that everything that we
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: know is based on a different texture and it's just different,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: and we need to like understand that. Um. Different doesn't
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: mean like weren't difficult or bad. It just means like
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I just need to relearn this. So um, even like
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: with with stylist, like getting even just a haircut, when
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: you go get your hair cut by like a regular haircut,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: they're cutting your hair so it could be straight. And
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: so if you're trying to wear your hair naturally curly,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: your texture is not going to like be as curly.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Like your hair is not going to grow in the
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: same way. It's not gonna do like even the angles
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: at which they cut it at. Curly hair is supposed
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: to be cut wet. I mean dry. Straight hair is
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: supposed to be cut wet. Like there's just like all
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: these little rules, um that we don't understand. And even like,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: for example, UM, curly hair is usually or textured hair
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: in general is a little bit drier, and it's a
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: little bit more like delicate, Like it's not supposed to
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: be washed all the time. Like oils are good for
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: the hair, and in general oils, natural oils are good
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: for your scalp. So UM, a lot of these things
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: that we've learned to like shampoo our hair all the time,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Like that's so bad for your up and your hair
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: and you're just adding to like your scalp being dry. Yeah,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: what do you think, like in your experience, and because
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: you're a pro in this world, what are the things
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: that latin as that women of color that we tend
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: to do with our hair that are major no nos
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: that are more damaging than anything else. Yeah, So one
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: is UM washing you here all the time. That's a
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: huge one. I think that's like the biggest mistake that
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: we make is UM shampooing or hair all the time.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: And even like for example, me, I only utilize ship
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: well one thing first and foremost, shampoo isn't meant for
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: your entire head for the rest of your hair. Shampoo
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: is meant for your scalp. The purpose of shampoo is
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: to clean, is to like um clean without over drying.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Is to like you know, open up these make sure
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: your hair follicles are not being blocked by any product
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: build up. It's just like to care for your scalp
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: like your face, like another part of your skin. So
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of the time, like the majority of these
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: products out here have silicones, sulfates, parabins, and in particular
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: what they have sulfates, and what a sulfate is, it's
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: pretty much a harsh detergent, and a lot of these
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: shampoos have sulfates. That's what makes it like super phamy,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: like that feeling of like extra wash. But if you're
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: putting that like a lot of these sulfates there, that's
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: what's in like detergents to like wash dishes like harsh,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: and if you're putting that directly on your scalp, like
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: that's so bad for imagine putting something like that on
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: your face. Whatever. I think about that all the time,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: how I spend so much time on my skincare and
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: like I'd never pay attention to my hair like I
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: was recently that I transformed transitioned into like a paarabin
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: free shampoo. But I was like using like the Pantine
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: type shampoo for gear, like whatever, whatever, whatever my mom buy,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I would use that in my biggest recommendation, Like, even
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: if you don't care about the rest of your hair,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: at least just care about your scalp, Like at least
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: just like treat your scalp because y'all gonna be complaining
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: when it's too late and you have early hair. Law, right,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: what are this? This is a good a good one too,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: because what are some of the mistakes that men make?
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Their number one? So, just like I said, the chemicals,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Like so the majority of male products, especially styling products,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: have silicones. The reason why silicones are bad is because
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: a silicone is like a plastic. It gives the illusion
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: of shiny and soft. And what a silicone does, It's
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: like it almost adds like a plastic from your hair
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: follicle through the whole strand. And of course it's gonna
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: look shiny, it's gonna look soft because there's like it's
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: like a plastic. But what happens to the hair follical
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: on your scalp. It can't breathe. If it can't breathe,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: it can't absorb. It can't absorb nutrients, it can't like
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: fully grow and continue growing, so it falls off. So
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: what happens you experienced early hair loss? Um so in
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: exactly the same way, like the way working in a
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes and the manufacturing and like you know,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: coming up with these ingredients. I see that it's so crazy,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: how like so I see how like a bucket, a
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: huge bucket of like a silicone will cost nothing like
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: nothing too, and but the but the few a bucket
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: of like you know, a natural ingredient to also give
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: you that shine and softness. It's gonna cost you like more,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: you know, but it's gonna help you in the long run.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: And then with hair care, it's exact same way as
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: like food, like for example, making a mac and cheese, right,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: that's like super unhealthy with a lot of butter or whatever.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: It don't taste amazing that moment, right, but you're not
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: going to see the negative effects to like ten years
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: in when you have diabetes, when you have like all
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: these other like you know, your your health is its
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: hurting the exact same way with hair care and with
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: products that we put on our hair. It's like at
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: that moment those silicones or soul fates was all these
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: things feel great and they give you shine. But a
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: year later down the line, you're gonna see your scalp
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: um flaking, You're gonna see your your hair loss, you're
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: gonna see your hair not growing as much. You're gonna
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: see like all these other things. So it's like, it's
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: crazy how much like we need to And not only that,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: but it's like what you're putting on your scalp, you're
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: putting it on your into your bloodstream, like you're putting
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: it into whatever you put on your skin on your body.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: It gets absorbed into your bloodstream. Like what I explain
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: to people that I have a hard time understanding this,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: it's like that birth control patch. All you do is
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: just stick that on anywhere, and it's so the hormones
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: that are released into your bloodstream is so strong you
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: could you don't you you don't get no no babies,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. So it's like, imagine
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: you're putting these chemicals on your head. Wow, I've never
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: even thought of that at all. I've never thought about
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: my shampoo entering my blood stream. Yeah, like and not
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: just your blooded stream. It's like that she does on
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: your go call your brain girl like so enlightening. So
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: put in general, like for me, like I only shampoo,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: like I would say, I shamp again, everything is how
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: you are, for example, like your scalp. What I say
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: about my scalp might be different than somebody else. Some
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: people have very early scales, people have very dry scales.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: To people have like different um um, you know, scalp necessities, right,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: just like different skin types exactly, but in general, like
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: I would say, like figure out a way, like kind
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: of because most people more than none are washing their
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: hair with shampoo too often, right, so like I would say,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: tested out, like see how often you really need to shampoo? Um,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: even like natural ones. Like it's like it's okay to
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: not washing hair so often. So what I do I
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: co wash or I what I do is like so
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: pretty much like sometimes what I do is I don't
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I won't use shampool, I'll just do a conditioner. So
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: like sometimes like during that month, like it doesn't mean
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: like I haven't washed my whole head in a month,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: it means like I haven't utilized a shampoo, so all
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I've done in the shower is I'll just put conditioner
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: and again, so conditioner is meant for the rest of
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: your hair. So in the same way, how like certain things,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: like for example, on skincare, if you have too oil,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: if you put like certain argone oil, like it might
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: clog your pores. It might be too strong of oil,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: too strong of moisture for your skin. Right, the same
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: thing with scalps. Scalp is like another skin. So a
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: lot of the ingredients and conditioners, they're meant for the
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: rest of your hair because the rest of your hair
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: needs really strong moisturizing reparative nutrients. Right, So when you're
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: using conditioner, it's like you shouldn't really put that on
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: your scalp, Like I mean, you could put close to it,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: but like you put it on the rest of your hair.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: And what I would do is like during that month,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: like I usually maybe like once a week, I'll use
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: conditioner in my hair and I brush my hair and
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: then like I wash it. But I only really utilize
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: shampoo like once a month, maybe twice a month max.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: And that's what works for you, that's a formula for yours,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: and that's what works for me. And then like I
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: mentioned um So, our shampoo for example, has maringa oil
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: that's really good for scalp, like dry scalp and itchy scalp.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: But I always tell people like if well, no matter what,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: no matter what products you have, from the moment that
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: you pull something from the earth, it begins losing its potency.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: There's no way to bottle full potency from like you
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: literally pulling it that moment and like using it on yourself.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: So I always like to pair my ingredients, my products
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: with natural things. So for example, like I'll do if
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I want to do a deep mask, I'll take my
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: conditioner and like mix it with like coconut oil, olive oil,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I'll cooke, I'll mix it with like different things. If
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I want to add like a little bit of like
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: if my scalp is like feeling weird, like a little
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: bit of like adnica like in there, if I want
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: to add whatever I want to do to it, I
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: do that. Like I if my scalp is for people
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: that we have some customers that will have like very
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: dry scalp or scalp issues. I'm like, literally, go pulla
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: works so good, Like get that gel and no it
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: smells funny, but like girls just washing her after you
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: shampoo in conditioner after like you'll be fine. Yeah, it's
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: really like has so many uses. My mother uses it
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: as the face mask and she puts it on every
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: night before bed. So good. Like we have a story
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: with pretty chip shot back to next. Our listeners are familiar. Yeah,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: I've been friends with her since we were in high school.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: And there was one time we wanted to go to Vegas.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: But then she got her appendix taken out right, So
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: then like she had the whole like freaking um scar
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: all big, right, So I was like, damn girl, like
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: we're trying to go to Vegas like in two days, Like,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: ain't nobody trying to have your biggest scar, like if
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: the stitches all open? So I got we we like,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: So I drove over there. I Rember with bubys, my
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: little sister Joe over there, and I got her sail plant.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: We put the saula on there and tell me why
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: it closed. I put anica and that closed. Two days
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: we were in Vegas, living the best life, and she
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: was in a skirt in mid like in a school,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: A skirt and tuptop cured her. She can test it.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: She can attested being healing and making her scar clothed
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: enough for us to go party and get you. Oh
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: my gosh, you are like you are a community quit
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: then yeah, you're a healer girl? Okay, girl, healer? And
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: what does she not do? Amazing? Wow? I love it.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I want to ask, because you brought this up earlier,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: the three seas? Yes, what are the three seeds? What
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: do they stand for? Yeah? So Reso's curls is curls, community, culture,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: and um, those that's like what our mission, That's what
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: the business is, That's what girls is, and that's what
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: we we adhere by. And the reason why the community
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: and the culture part are just as important as the
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: curls is because what I'm selling is not nearly as
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: important as why I'm selling it and why I'm doing it.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: So in general, I think what you find in common
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: with a lot of these like Latina businesses, Um, you guys,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: like you know so many of these other amazing latinas
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: that you guys that y'all have featured. Um, what we
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: have in common is like our why is so much
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: bigger than our what are We're part of this a
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: larger movement. We're part of a larger purpose and um,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: that's what That's why people connect with us, and that
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: keeps us grounded and authentic, and that's why people are
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: our community propelses forward is because the why is so
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: much more important than what we are doing or selling. Agreed,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: I agree completely. I mean there's a story, there's a
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: story behind it, there's a reason, there's ancestral knowledge, there's
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: a grandmother. I mean earlier Julia and I were talking
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: about just like how we as Latinos are drawn to gold,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: to otto, and I'm like, what's an ancestral calling? Like
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: our home countries mainly had them had gold. Um. And
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: so you know it's not for nothing that you know,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: we're drawn to certain things like it doesn't just come
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere. And we still want our gold back
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, we did Vatican City like our
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: gold back. Um. This also reminds me to going back
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: to kind of rewinding a little bit. You were talking
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: about mixing natural products and doing like hair masks and things.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: How many of us are mothers. We grew up with
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: our mom's putting avocado in our hair. Even my mom
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: used to put mayonnaise in our hearts, a mask, right,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: olive oil, all kinds of things and make us sit
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: in it for hours. And I remember being like, what
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: is why are you doing this to me? Why is
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: there mayonnaise in my hair? But it's all these like
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: home remedies that work, and because the store products are
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: not doing what we want them to do, so we
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: need to use you know, what do we have in
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: the kitchen exactly? But um, yeah, I think um in
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: general to like a lot of these products. Sometimes, like
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: you'll see some of these products and it'll say like
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: avocado on the front or it'll say like olivera or
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: shave butter or whatever it'll say on the front of
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: the bottle, and then you go home and you use
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: it and you're like, well, I don't really like I'm
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: so confused why it is not working. And from the
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: manufacturing behind the scenes side, I've learned that like like
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of these companies don't They don't really care
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: about that why, and it shows when they're sourcing their ingredients.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: So you can put on a label or you can
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: put on a bottle that you have included a certain ingredient,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: but you can buy a very watered down, non potent,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: very non organic, very like you know, you sourced it
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: from China literally like something that and you've never met
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: the sourcer. You don't really know exactly where it's coming, like,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: you have no idea, you know, you have no interaction,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: real interaction with who you're buying this from. So you
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: compromise potency for your margins. You're you're compromising this. So
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of the time when that doesn't happen, when
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: you're buying these products and it says it says it
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: has this, but then you're not seeing the result, like
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: question it like absolutely, why is that so? Absolutely? And
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: so what what as far as like your ingredients and
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: your products and how the product comes together and where
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: it's made? Is that? Would you like to share a
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: little bit about your process for anyone who's interested? Yeah,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: so for me, um, I I don't know if I
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: said this dream interview or before I told my process
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: right at four years how I yes, did you talked
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: about a little bit about that? Yeah? Okay, I was
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: like we were like chatting so much like before. I'm like,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: I don't even know when this UM. So the formulas
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: took me four years to create, and I worked with
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: two different labs. So the first lab that I worked
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: with was more white, and I felt like there was
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: bigger and like they were more like fancy schmancy and
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: laboratory laboratory exactly. UM. And I just like I I
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: didn't even get to like they didn't even really let
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: me like really connect with the chemist. It was like
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: very there's no it was very informal, and me being
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: new to this industry, like I didn't know there could
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: be another way. So UM two years in you know,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: money and time spent, I just like I wasn't happy
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: with the products that I was getting the results of
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: the formulas that I was getting back. So then I
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: made the hard decision to go with it start all
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: over again with a new lab and this time it
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: was a family owned Nigerian owned um Lab manufacturing plant
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: and the chemist is Jamaican and she and I felt
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: like the connection there was the reason why we were
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: able to achieve like such great formulas was because the
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: synergy was there. They understood the importance of these ingredients
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: like they understood they saw ingredients in the same way
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: that my culture sees ingredients as medicine like she saw
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: them as well, and she had all these stories as
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: well of like using these different things, and it was
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: very collaborative. Like I was like, I really love this ingredient.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: They're like, well, we really like moringa oil. We source
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: this directly from Nigeria, or we do this here, or
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: we do that. So it was like a really beautiful
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: like black brown collaboration. And I would go back and
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: tested on my family and then she would go back
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: and tested on you know, their families. So it was
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: like a it was very you know, collaborative, um, and
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: it was kind of like emerging of our learning from
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: both of our cultures. Very cool. That's super cool. And
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot to say there too about
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: the black community and black women in particular really innovating
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: for many years now in hair care. And I mean
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: madam Madam C. J. Walker, who was like what the
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: first black woman millionaire and she made hair products for
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: black women, right, Like there's a lot of history, there
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: is so much history. Amazing. Thank you for sharing that
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: because I don't think that wasn't like in the bio
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: or anywhere else. But that's like a really important piece
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: of the story, So thank you for sharing that with
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: our listeners. Of course, I'm in general and everything that
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: I do, I'm like, I try to work with and
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: collaborate as much as possible with black and brown folks.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: So absolutely as do we. That's the model, It's yes,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: and that's where the community piece comes in, right, So, um,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering if there's anything you want to say also
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: about the community you've created hashtag rizzos Reinas because you
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: have a lot of rainers out there, and you also
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: not too long ago we saw we peepe that you
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: had an ad out in Times Square. Oh my god. Yeah,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: it's about this movement and just going nationwide and being
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: all over the place, Reina movement. So THESS Reina has
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: become a whole movement because it's like it represents this
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: woman who was unapologetic about her culture, unapologetic about her presence,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: unapologetic about what she brings to the table, and she
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: is going places she gives back to her community. She
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: is um you know, all about collaboration, all about empowering
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: other people that look like her, you know, giving back
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: and um looking good while doing it, having fun, living
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: their best life. Caring about their wellness, wellness of others
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: and wearing so many different hats. And that's been my
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: experience with meeting so many of our customers that are
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: you know now it's like a movement and they're my friends,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: and they're like these home girls that I've created, that
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: that that we've created this like amazing like family. We
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: call it like Reso's Rein family and that movement, and
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: they're like so proud to call themselves Resols now because
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: of like the wider messaging behind it. So with that
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: we kind of like, um, I would go to For example,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: I went to New York and I threw a party
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: for like I asked the I tell people, I'm like,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: I don't call the shots at Resos girls the reasons
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: now the shots like they're telling me what to do.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: So when I was in New York, I was like,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: what do y'all want? I want to meet y'all like
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I want to, you know, like I'm always yearning to
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: meet them because let me tell you, these girls are
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: so fully live, Like I mean, we got Resol Rey
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: is to y'all cool, y'all really cool too, but these
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: right now, y'all got to give it up to these
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: reasons to day. Now, it's like they're out here, Like
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: I'm always so inspired and so in awe of them online,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: like a lot of them, Like that's when I first
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: meet them online, and I'm just like, so you need
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: to tell me that you are doing your side like
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: blog and then you have three kids, you're a mom,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: you're also going to school, you also work for this
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: company doing this, and you're like, I'm just like what
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: you're and you're supporting me and you're coming to my
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: events and then you're trying to volunteer to go do
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: some community work that you also do and like throwing
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: this something else. I'm just like, y'all inspire me so much.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: So in general, like I'm always trying to create situations
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: to meet them and interact with them and like, you know,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: just be in their presence. So um, I was like,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: what do y'all want? They're like, we want not turning
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: up because you'd be having parties in that lay, right,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: y'all want They're like, we want to turn up. So
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, we can have a night.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: So um, yeah, we had a res daya night out
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: there and it was like so late. It was like
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: three beautiful, curly haired girls and that was my first one.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: And UM, we started doing more and more events like
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: I did UM more recently, I did a networking night
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: where we did UM. We did like different like curated
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: activity so that we everybody got paired with somebody to
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: like share a business challenge and then they would help
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: each other. Um, like accomplished that challenge by the end
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: of the year. So like like everybody like met somebody
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: else and like it's all about like growing and collaborating.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: So we've been doing different events. I went to Puerto Rico,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: we did the same thing. We had another like women
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: empowerment event. UM. So it kind of now we're doing.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: So that's where UM and it started. I'm gonna started
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: in the summer. That's where it was born. And I'm
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: going to call it the Latina Ladder. And the Latina
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Ladder is um, lift as you climb, and I feel like, yeah,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: we lift as we climb, And I think that represents
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: like the resources right, no movement that we've started and
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: all of that good stuff. But um, as far as
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: a billboard, UM, I don't know if y'all saw the
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Sex and the City, we saw the little short we
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: thought it. Yeah, I want to be Carrie Bradshaw, Like
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: this is the thing about marketing. Was funny because I
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: got some messages after that about like this is not
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Latino marketing and I'm like, no, no, no, no, this
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: is a hundred percent like millennial. I don't know what
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: to call it, but it's like Latino marketing is, like
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: we like a lot of things. Yeah, sometimes I listened
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: to Metallica. Sometimes I want to go to like being
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: a mosh pit. Sometimes I want to go work it
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: out of Cardi B. Sometimes I want to go listen
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: beat Carry Bradshaw with blonde hair, like you know what
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: I mean. I got a lot of interest, y'all. I
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: don't know. Box me into something that statement even me.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Thank you that. So if I want to do a
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Sex and the City thing where like you know, with
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of brown women, I'm gonna do a sex
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: in the city a little recreation with brown women, like
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: let me do my things. So but anyways, I recreated
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: the whole Sex in the City, um intro like it
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: was really so cute. Yeah Instagram like frame by frame
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: or y'all gotta go watch it. But um, instead of
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: the bus. It's my billboard in Times Square with all
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: these curls and brown women just like out there huge
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: and we was on We had it um during New
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Year's and during fashion week and during this time, and
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I was just like it was so beautiful, like standing there.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: When I went to see it myself, I was standing
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: there and I'm just like seeing like it just stood
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: out from like seeing all these like brown faces with
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: like huge curls. Um. It was just such a beautiful
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: sight to see. Amazing congratulations, gratulation. That's major, major, major moves. Yeah.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: One of my goals with Resol's curls is to like
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: put latinas put women of color, put curls into spaces
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: that may we feel like a're not creative for us
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: sincessarily we've never really felt accepted or seen ourselves in
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: and make people feel so uncomfortable because we are comfortable
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: there and we are like making it look so much better.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: I love it, I love it, love it. Yeah. Well,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us today, Julisa. This
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: has been such a treat chatting with you. Yeah, thank
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: you so much. Our listeners are gonna love this absolutely so, Julisa,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: do you want to just share with our look on
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