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- 0:03Speaker 1: From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:06Speaker 1: It's Friday, April four, twenty twenty five. Anthony Albinizi is
- 0:13Speaker 1: planning to stockpile Australia's precious critical minerals deposits as a
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- 1:06Speaker 1: You can read that exclusive right now at The Australian
- 1:09Speaker 1: dot com dot au. Virginia Roberts Giuffrey became globally famous
- 1:17Speaker 1: as the woman accusing Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein of
- 1:21Speaker 1: collaborating in abusing her when she was a teenager. She's
- 1:25Speaker 1: been living a quiet family life in Perth until this
- 1:29Speaker 1: week she became the central character in a real life
- 1:33Speaker 1: medical mystery today, What's going on with Virginia Gufrey. Virginia
- 1:45Speaker 1: Giffrey was sixteen and working in the spa at Donald
- 1:49Speaker 1: Trump's Mara Lago Club in Florida when she crossed paths
- 1:53Speaker 1: with Gilaine Maxwell.
- 1:55Speaker 2: She was like this really bright Mary Poppins kind of
- 2:00Speaker 2: a figure, and she goes, Oh, you know what, I
- 2:03Speaker 2: know this guy, there's an opportunity. Actually, if you want
- 2:06Speaker 2: to become a real massage therapist, we can get she trained.
- 2:11Speaker 1: Her name was Virginia Roberts then, and that guy was
- 2:14Speaker 1: billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein, vices from the TV mini series
- 2:19Speaker 1: Surviving Jeffrey Epstein.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Within the next few weeks, Jeffrey Gilande told me that
- 2:25Speaker 2: I need to quit my job with mar al Iago
- 2:27Speaker 2: because I'll be traveling with them as they're traveling massuse.
- 2:31Speaker 1: Virginia Giffrey alleges she was sexually assaulted by both Epstein
- 2:36Speaker 1: and Galline Maxwell on that first meeting, subsequently trafficked and
- 2:40Speaker 1: abused for years.
- 2:43Speaker 2: It was abused straight away from both of them. I
- 2:47Speaker 2: got paid two hundred dollars and the butler drove me home.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Epstein was found dead in a New York prison cell
- 2:58Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, where he was waiting to stand trial
- 3:02Speaker 1: on sex trafficking charges.
- 3:05Speaker 3: The medical examiner has ruled his death a suicide. Attorney
- 3:10Speaker 3: General William Barr ordered an investigation into his death after
- 3:13Speaker 3: officials uncovered irregularities at the prison.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Giffrey claims she was assaulted by the Duke of York,
- 3:21Speaker 1: Prince Andrew, who counted Epstein and Maxwell among his close
- 3:25Speaker 1: personal friends. Andrew's always denied the allegations against him, but
- 3:31Speaker 1: settled with Giffrey out of court for an undisclosed PSALM
- 3:34Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. Here's Geffrey in an interview with
- 3:38Speaker 1: the BBC's Panorama program.
- 3:41Speaker 2: I'm calling BS on this because that's what it is.
- 3:44Speaker 2: He knows what happened. I know what happened, and there's
- 3:48Speaker 2: only one of us telling the truth, and I know
- 3:50Speaker 2: that's me.
- 3:52Speaker 1: In the years since, Giffrey has become an advocate for
- 3:54Speaker 1: survivors of sexual abuse and trafficking.
- 3:58Speaker 2: I implore the people in the UK to stand up
- 4:02Speaker 2: beside me, to help me fight this fate. To not
- 4:05Speaker 2: accept this as being okay. This is not some sordid
- 4:08Speaker 2: sex story. This is a story of being trafficked.
- 4:12Speaker 1: She's also made a life for herself far away from
- 4:15Speaker 1: it all in Perth, Western Australia. She married Australian martial
- 4:20Speaker 1: arts instructor Robert Giuffrey in two thousand and two and
- 4:24Speaker 1: they have three children.
- 4:27Speaker 4: Virginia's kept a really low profile in Perth. Actually she
- 4:30Speaker 4: doesn't give interviews. She had been living quietly in the
- 4:35Speaker 4: northern suburbs of Perth with her husband and children.
- 4:38Speaker 1: This is The Australian's West Australia Bureau Chief Page Taylor.
- 4:43Speaker 4: We knew that she had bought a lovely house in
- 4:46Speaker 4: a beachside suburb, but it wasn't like there was news
- 4:49Speaker 4: about her in the media daily or she didn't go
- 4:52Speaker 4: seeking it either. I think a lot of people were
- 4:56Speaker 4: quite delighted that she had found some kind of peace
- 5:00Speaker 4: and then you stop.
- 5:04Speaker 1: In the early hours of Tuesday, this post appeared on
- 5:08Speaker 1: Virginia Juphry's Instagram fade. We've used an AI voice to
- 5:12Speaker 1: raid Virginia Jupry's post.
- 5:15Speaker 5: This year has been the worst start to a new year.
- 5:17Speaker 5: But I won't bore anyone with the details, but I
- 5:20Speaker 5: think it's important to note that when a school bus
- 5:23Speaker 5: driver comes at you driving one hundred ten kilometers as
- 5:26Speaker 5: we were slowing for a turn, that no matter what
- 5:29Speaker 5: your car is made of, it might as well be
- 5:30Speaker 5: a tin can. I've gone into kidney renal failure. They've
- 5:34Speaker 5: given me four days to live, transferring me to a
- 5:37Speaker 5: specialist hospital in urology. I'm ready to go, just not
- 5:41Speaker 5: until I see my babies one last time. But you
- 5:44Speaker 5: know what they say about wishes, shit in one hand
- 5:47Speaker 5: and wish in the other, and I guarantee it's still
- 5:49Speaker 5: going to be shit at the end of the day.
- 5:51Speaker 5: Thank you all for being the wonderful people of the
- 5:53Speaker 5: world and for being a great part of my life.
- 5:56Speaker 5: God bless you all. Virginia.
- 6:00Speaker 4: While I was up late finishing a story, was about
- 6:03Speaker 4: two am on Tuesday, Perth time, and I thought, I'm
- 6:09Speaker 4: just going to do a bit of scrolling now before
- 6:12Speaker 4: I go to sleep, and I saw this really confronting
- 6:19Speaker 4: image of Virginia in what looked to be a hospital bed.
- 6:25Speaker 4: She had declared she only had days to live. It
- 6:27Speaker 4: was such a shock.
- 6:29Speaker 1: In the picture, Giffrey looks very unwell. She's lying on
- 6:33Speaker 1: something that looks like a hospital bed with medical equipment
- 6:36Speaker 1: in the background. She has brown marks on one side
- 6:39Speaker 1: of her face that looked like they could be bruising.
- 6:43Speaker 4: This is not a terribly big city, Perth, and if
- 6:46Speaker 4: a school bus had cleaned up a car, the TV
- 6:49Speaker 4: crews would be there, it'd be all over social media,
- 6:52Speaker 4: the parents would have been contacted, the school would have
- 6:55Speaker 4: had to make a statement. There was none of that,
- 6:57Speaker 4: which was a bit unusual. And then I thought, oh,
- 7:01Speaker 4: I'll read that again. Maybe she's saying one thing happened
- 7:03Speaker 4: after the other. Maybe she's not saying they're connected. I
- 7:05Speaker 4: couldn't quite understand what was going on there. But then
- 7:08Speaker 4: I also did think, perhaps this is also a person
- 7:12Speaker 4: who's very sick and possibly a bit dazed and confused
- 7:17Speaker 4: in that process, and she might not be even understanding
- 7:21Speaker 4: what's happening to her.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Journalists, including page from around the world, started asking questions,
- 7:30Speaker 1: when had this road accident happened, where, Why hadn't it
- 7:34Speaker 1: made The news page found out that yes, Virginia. Giffrey
- 7:38Speaker 1: had been in an ambulance which picked her up from
- 7:41Speaker 1: a tiny town north of Perth. It arrived at Sir
- 7:44Speaker 1: Charles Gardener Hospital at about two thirty am on Tuesday,
- 7:49Speaker 1: April one.
- 7:51Speaker 4: That's a really big tertiary hospital in Perth. It does
- 7:55Speaker 4: everything except major trauma and complex burns. You can't have
- 7:58Speaker 4: a baby at Sir Charles gar A Hospital, but they
- 8:00Speaker 4: do everything else. They do organ transplants and they deal
- 8:05Speaker 4: with surgeries of all kinds. I have confirmed that she
- 8:09Speaker 4: arrived about two thirty am on the Tuesday, which suggests
- 8:13Speaker 4: to me that perhaps that photograph was taken in the
- 8:15Speaker 4: back of the ambulance. She had been in the rural
- 8:19Speaker 4: area of near Gabby, which is a tiny hamlet, doesn't
- 8:22Speaker 4: have a town square or a shops or anything, and
- 8:25Speaker 4: the ambulance service got a tripoo call round midnight. Some
- 8:30Speaker 4: volunteers came from the beachside suburb of Two Rocks and
- 8:33Speaker 4: they took her to the Two Rocks depot. That's not
- 8:35Speaker 4: even a nursing post or a medical center, it's literally
- 8:39Speaker 4: where they keep the ambulance. And then a professional crew
- 8:42Speaker 4: from the city came and picked her up and in
- 8:44Speaker 4: normal road conditions. They drove her to Sir Charles Garden Hospital,
- 8:49Speaker 4: about seventy kilometers south. They didn't use the sirens, which
- 8:53Speaker 4: suggests it's not an emergency but serious enough to warrant
- 8:57Speaker 4: an ambulance transfer.
- 9:00Speaker 1: So the ambulance right happened on Tuesday this week, that's
- 9:04Speaker 1: April one. But the authorities in Wa have told Page
- 9:08Speaker 1: the incident between the school bus and the car that
- 9:11Speaker 1: happened last week on the twenty fourth of March.
- 9:15Speaker 4: It was relatively minor, and it did happen in near
- 9:18Speaker 4: Gabby Up, near where Virginia was picked up in the
- 9:21Speaker 4: ambulance six days later. But it was so minor that
- 9:25Speaker 4: the police said there was only two thousand dollars worth
- 9:27Speaker 4: of damage to the car and no major injuries. We
- 9:30Speaker 4: know the ambulance did not attend that incident either.
- 9:35Speaker 1: In a statement, Virginia Deuphray's agent said she'd been injured
- 9:38Speaker 1: in the crash, but it had returned home and it
- 9:40Speaker 1: wasn't until her condition worsened after several days that she
- 9:44Speaker 1: called the ambulance and then it emerged. Virginia Euphras facing
- 9:51Speaker 1: a criminal charge in the Wa courts on March fourteen,
- 9:55Speaker 1: Ten days before the road accident, she'd appeared at the
- 9:59Speaker 1: magistrates Court in joodle Up, in Perth's northern suburbs. She
- 10:03Speaker 1: was charged with breaching a family violence restraining order. She
- 10:07Speaker 1: hasn't had to enter a plea and the matters listed
- 10:10Speaker 1: for court on April nine. Also facing charges is her husband,
- 10:15Speaker 1: Robert Giffrey. In February, he was charged with an inadequate
- 10:19Speaker 1: storage facility for firearms. He's also been in trouble for
- 10:23Speaker 1: a driving offense. He was fined twelve hundred dollars and
- 10:26Speaker 1: lost his license for six months for reckless driving exceeding
- 10:29Speaker 1: the speed limit by forty five kilometers an hour or more.
- 10:32Speaker 1: Back in September. On the twenty second of March, she
- 10:39Speaker 1: posted some photos of her children and some words that
- 10:42Speaker 1: suggested that there was something going on in the family.
- 10:46Speaker 1: She said her heart was shattered and that every day
- 10:49Speaker 1: that passes her sadness only deepened. Did that attract attention
- 10:53Speaker 1: at the time or did that kind of go a
- 10:55Speaker 1: bit unnoticed until she made the post about being in hospital.
- 10:59Speaker 4: I never saw that post, and I never saw any
- 11:02Speaker 4: media about it either. I sort of wondered if that
- 11:04Speaker 4: when under the radar because she had not been in
- 11:07Speaker 4: the media for such a long time, maybe people had
- 11:09Speaker 4: taken their eyes off her. When I did see it,
- 11:12Speaker 4: it struck me as so tragic, just horrible.
- 11:18Speaker 1: And then another twist. We've used a voice actor to
- 11:22Speaker 1: read a statement released by Virginia Geffray's agent overnight on
- 11:25Speaker 1: Wednesday this week. There are some sensitive personal issues mentioned
- 11:29Speaker 1: in the statement, so we've redacted some of it.
- 11:34Speaker 6: On January ninth, twenty twenty five, and Virginia was hospitalized
- 11:40Speaker 6: for her serious injuries and he was granted a restraining order.
- 11:46Speaker 6: Virginia looks forward to defending herself. She is deeply concerned
- 11:51Speaker 6: about her children. Virginia continues to be hospitalized in serious condition.
- 12:00Speaker 4: We heard that she'd been in a hospital as early
- 12:02Speaker 4: as January. The fact that she'd been in hospital multiple
- 12:06Speaker 4: times this year was a surprise and a big cause
- 12:11Speaker 4: for concern. She has been charged with one count of
- 12:16Speaker 4: breaching what is known as a family violence restraining order.
- 12:20Speaker 4: What I know about those orders is that there are
- 12:24Speaker 4: ways of breaching them that are minor, and there are
- 12:26Speaker 4: ways of breaching them that are major. So a person
- 12:29Speaker 4: can breach a family violence restraining order by sending a
- 12:32Speaker 4: text or an email. And there have been cases in
- 12:35Speaker 4: the past, the recent past where a man has been
- 12:39Speaker 4: fined a small fine for breaching one of these orders
- 12:42Speaker 4: by sending an email that asked to see his children.
- 12:46Speaker 4: But people have also been jailed because they breach the
- 12:49Speaker 4: order with an act of violence. So we actually don't
- 12:53Speaker 4: know what's gone on here, and it could be any
- 12:55Speaker 4: of those things that the police are alleging.
- 13:01Speaker 1: Coming up. What are the ethics of covering a complex
- 13:04Speaker 1: story where the subject seems to be in such distress.
- 13:24Speaker 1: This is such a delicate thing to cover, isn't it.
- 13:26Speaker 1: Page This woman has made allegations of really horrendous abuse
- 13:32Speaker 1: against three people, Jeffrey Epstein, Gilaine Maxwell, and Prince Andrew.
- 13:38Speaker 1: She's accepted a settlement, a payout in some form of
- 13:43Speaker 1: acknowledgment of her abuse. She's been trying to live a
- 13:48Speaker 1: private life in wa and it sounds like the media
- 13:51Speaker 1: has really left her alone. How do you navigate the
- 13:54Speaker 1: delicacy of stepping your way through covering this story.
- 13:58Speaker 4: She's an important thing to a lot of people because
- 14:01Speaker 4: she's been a hero actually campaigning for victims of sexual abuse,
- 14:07Speaker 4: and so I think there's a lot of care and
- 14:09Speaker 4: concern for her. But you're right, it's so difficult to
- 14:13Speaker 4: tell this story when this is a person whose life
- 14:16Speaker 4: is obviously in a lot of turmoil. I get a
- 14:20Speaker 4: sense she's a person who's lived through a lot of pain.
- 14:24Speaker 4: I think that she was genuinely trying to have a
- 14:27Speaker 4: quiet and good life. And if you're going to live
- 14:30Speaker 4: in Australia, in a capital city, Perth's probably the place
- 14:33Speaker 4: to do it. She's going to appear in court now
- 14:36Speaker 4: as a result of this family violence restraining order charge,
- 14:40Speaker 4: and that, of course, is going to attract a lot
- 14:42Speaker 4: of media attention. That's going to be hard to watch.
- 14:45Speaker 4: It's going to be difficult for her, and it's going
- 14:47Speaker 4: to be quite the spectacle.
- 14:48Speaker 1: I think Virginia giuphrase Agent's initial response to this page
- 14:53Speaker 1: was to say in a statement that her intention had
- 14:56Speaker 1: been to post it in a more private way, perhaps
- 14:59Speaker 1: on a face book closed group, rather than publicly on Instagram.
- 15:04Speaker 1: What should we draw from that, given that the statement
- 15:06Speaker 1: is still there on Instagram.
- 15:09Speaker 4: I've been wondering if it hasn't been removed because Virginia
- 15:13Speaker 4: is so unwell. As far as we know, she's still
- 15:16Speaker 4: an impatient she may be under the influence of pretty
- 15:20Speaker 4: strong painkillers. She might not even be in a position
- 15:24Speaker 4: to communicate well with her spokesperson or pass on her passwords.
- 15:30Speaker 4: I don't know what to take from that. This is
- 15:32Speaker 4: a person who's obviously sick, or else she wouldn't have
- 15:35Speaker 4: been taken by ambulance to a hospital and she wouldn't
- 15:37Speaker 4: still be there. What her illness is we don't know.
- 15:41Speaker 4: But I know that public hospitals are not in the
- 15:44Speaker 4: habit of keeping people on the ward if they're well
- 15:46Speaker 4: enough to leave.
- 15:57Speaker 1: Ah Taylor is The Australian's wad Your Chief. You can
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