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Stefanie Parker From “She’s All Bach” Isn’t Scared! · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: It's the almost famous OG podcast with your OG, Bob Guiney.
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  Speaker 3: Here, Hi everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Today, I am checking in with a fellow podcast host,
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  Speaker 2: somebody who has built an empire for herself.
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  Speaker 3: I think she's done a really excellent job of.
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  Speaker 2: It and definitely has a lot of very key and
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  Speaker 2: monumental interviews in her past and I'm sure in her
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  Speaker 2: future as well. We are joined today by Stephanie Parker
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  Speaker 2: of She's All Batch, so let's bring her in.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, how are you well? I'm better now. How are
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  Speaker 3: you doing?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing so good. It's so nice to meet you, big.
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  Speaker 2: Fans, I know officially right, it's crazy that we've never
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  Speaker 2: actually talked before.
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  Speaker 1: I know, it's a long time coming. I'm excited.
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  Speaker 3: I am too. Well.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I was just saying in your intro
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  Speaker 2: that you know, you have built an empire for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you kind of did it. You did it
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  Speaker 2: all on your own, too, which I think is pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 2: You got to feel pretty proud of that.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Yeah, I mean I I used
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  Speaker 4: to I want to give. I used to have a
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  Speaker 4: podcast partner that I worked with as well. We built
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  Speaker 4: the podcast. But yeah, she's all batched before the podcast too.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a long time. Yeah, I'm sure proud of it. Excited.
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  Speaker 2: Well, obviously it's it's around the Bachelor, which you know
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  Speaker 2: has been and I'm sure around many other things as well.
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  Speaker 2: But it's been a long time since the fresh season
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  Speaker 2: of the Bachelor has been on. So I know you've
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  Speaker 2: also had a little bit of drama in your life
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  Speaker 2: with you know, a letter that you read live on
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  Speaker 2: the air one day.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me a little bit about that.
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  Speaker 2: I had my run ins back in the day, so
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  Speaker 2: I get it.
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  Speaker 4: So Ever, since I put out that episode, I realized
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  Speaker 4: that I just joined the club of a lot of
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  Speaker 4: other people who.
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  Speaker 1: Have been in the exact same situation.
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  Speaker 4: I think for me, the major difference is I never anything.
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  Speaker 4: I don't I've never seen the contract. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: what it even says, so for me to get one,
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  Speaker 4: it just felt like they were trying. I have to
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  Speaker 4: be careful about what I say because I know they listen.
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  Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, hey.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, if you're listening.
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  Speaker 2: To me.
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  Speaker 4: When I first read it, I quickly skimmed it, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, let me get to the bottom, like, get
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  Speaker 4: to the where's the punchline? What's the conclusion here? And
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be like you are
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  Speaker 4: being sued for X amount. I didn't know what was
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  Speaker 4: going to say. But literally, just to wrap up summarizing
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  Speaker 4: is contestants have contracts forever and yeah, make sure you
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  Speaker 4: uh tread lightly kind of like something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that perpetuity word comes up a lot in those
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  Speaker 2: old contracts as I recall.
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  Speaker 4: But you know what, Bob, if I've been doing the
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  Speaker 4: podcast specifically for almost five years now, where have they been?
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  Speaker 4: And I know and I know they know about me
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  Speaker 4: because there was a long period of time where people
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  Speaker 4: were allowed to come on my show until they were
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  Speaker 4: out of contract, So like where were you for.
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  Speaker 1: The first four five years?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I wonder if it's a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of the uh the tailor Frankie Paul effect, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like all of a sudden, it's let's squeeze a little
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  Speaker 2: tighter and keep a little tighter control of the ship here,
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  Speaker 2: because you know otherwise, I mean the wheels legit came
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  Speaker 2: off this past year, so I mean it's it's been
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  Speaker 2: uh you know, kind of a just a like the
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  Speaker 2: Titanic basically, you know, and it's sort of like, come on,
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  Speaker 2: we all love the show.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I got sued many years ago.
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  Speaker 3: I still love the show. You you now have been sued.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, you know, we don't have to get too into
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  Speaker 2: the details. But yeah, it was a it was an
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  Speaker 2: ugly time, you know, many many years ago, now twenty
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  Speaker 2: over twenty years ago. I think I might have been
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  Speaker 2: the first one on the chopping block for that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But I won the right not to uh not to
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  Speaker 2: have to be sued. How about that?
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  Speaker 4: Oh I heard you. I heard you say that. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: you won the right to not be sued.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, whatever that happens. The inner viewer in me wants
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  Speaker 1: to prive for more.
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  Speaker 4: And this is what ABC doesn't like about me, is
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  Speaker 4: that I try to get stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Out of people.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm just inquisitive. I'm curious. Well, can you tell me.
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  Speaker 4: Was it during your when you were on the show
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  Speaker 4: or was it.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, it was after my season raft but very
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  Speaker 2: shortly thereafter.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, oh so you were still like the person.
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  Speaker 3: I was still the person.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was it was more about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: basically because of I had continued doing what I had
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  Speaker 2: done before, which was why they knew who I was
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  Speaker 2: and put me on the show anyway, and they wanted
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  Speaker 2: to be able to control how I did that. That's
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  Speaker 2: basically what it was. And it was, you know, it
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  Speaker 2: was basically just found that that that they couldn't They didn't.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't.
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  Speaker 2: The way that it was how do I phrase this properly,
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  Speaker 2: The way that it was determined was that they did
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  Speaker 2: not have the authority to do that at that time.
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  Speaker 2: So given the fact that I had done that, it'd
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  Speaker 2: be like, if you're you know, you're a podcaster, right,
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  Speaker 2: so now you go on the show and you go
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  Speaker 2: all the way through it and now you go back
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  Speaker 2: to podcasting. They're like, hold on, you can't do that,
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  Speaker 2: and be like, no, that's kind of what I do.
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  Speaker 2: That's why you had me on the show in the
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  Speaker 2: first place. I was a musician, which is why they
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  Speaker 2: had me on the show. I went back to being
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  Speaker 2: a musician and they're like, you can't promote your music,
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  Speaker 2: Like what, how's that?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 2: So it was kind of a that kind of a thing. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's a long story twenty years ago. Nobody cares. What
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  Speaker 2: I'm more concerned about is do you have a moment
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  Speaker 2: that you think was the trigger for you getting that letter? Like,
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  Speaker 2: if you're thinking back of all your interviews that you've done,
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  Speaker 2: was there like one moment you're like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: I should not have asked that question.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's never not asked the question. Always ask the question.
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  Speaker 4: They could say no and right, it's totally I always
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  Speaker 4: tell my guests like, you're in the driver's seat. I
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  Speaker 4: The last thing I want to do is get anyone
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  Speaker 4: in trouble or make someone uncomfortable, like I want people
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  Speaker 4: to enjoy coming on my show, and tell a friend
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  Speaker 4: like I don't want people to be like she made
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  Speaker 4: me so uncomfortable asking me these questions?
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  Speaker 1: So what okay a trigger for them? Why?
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  Speaker 4: I think it came out of nowhere After almost five years,
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  Speaker 4: I had a few interviews in a row of people
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  Speaker 4: who definitely don't speak highly of the franchise.
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  Speaker 1: People that either got a bad edit.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's out there, so I could just say,
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  Speaker 4: like Sam McKinney, he was the villain on Gen season.
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  Speaker 4: He was silenced for a long period of time, and
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  Speaker 4: he wanted to speak, Zoe McGrady wanted to speak.
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  Speaker 1: They all like have things.
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  Speaker 4: They all feel a certain way about how they were
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  Speaker 4: either portrayed on the show or not. Like seeing their
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  Speaker 4: fellow cast members go off to come on Almost Famous
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  Speaker 4: or to come on a Bachelor Happy Hour or any
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  Speaker 4: of the other podcasts, and they're not allowed to and
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  Speaker 4: they're like itching to share their side of the story,
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  Speaker 4: and by the time they get to me.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, look, I have so much to say, And
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  Speaker 1: I think that pisses them off.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't get why ABC doesn't embrace it like
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  Speaker 4: internet drama keeps the show going.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't understand it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder though, you know a lot of times
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  Speaker 2: it's probably and I mean, you would know better who
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  Speaker 2: your letter was from. But what I've found is a
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  Speaker 2: lot of times it's actually not ABC. It's actually the
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  Speaker 2: production company behind the show, right who? And so I
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  Speaker 2: often think of that because I think, you know, it
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  Speaker 2: does create that kind of feeling where you're like, man,
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  Speaker 2: the Real Housewives, they're just like, go crazy, ladies, you know,
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  Speaker 2: build that drama. And it's like those shows have become
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  Speaker 2: such staples and you know, a lot of it I
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  Speaker 2: think has to do and you and I'm loving to
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  Speaker 2: hear your opinion on this too, but a lot of
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  Speaker 2: it has to do, I'm sure, with the way they
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  Speaker 2: release the show and distribute the show. Right, So it's
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  Speaker 2: you know, the when they when they're on the Bravo,
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  Speaker 2: the Bravo Celebrity, the Bravo Liberty or whatever they call it.
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  Speaker 2: When they're doing all that stuff, you know, it's basically like,
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  Speaker 2: let's go, you know, push push, push, and you're everywhere
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  Speaker 2: and we're not gonna control what you say and have fun.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that does create celebrities, and that's probably
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  Speaker 2: part of it. I think maybe the powers that be
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  Speaker 2: at this point aren't wanting the people to come on
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  Speaker 2: the show to turn into celebrities, and they reluctantly accept
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  Speaker 2: the fact that these people become household names to a
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  Speaker 2: certain degree.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what are your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's that's interesting because that topic came up after
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  Speaker 4: I shared the legal letter, people started coming to me
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  Speaker 4: and saying, I mean, I just had carin Olympios on
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  Speaker 4: my show and she said this topic came up about
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  Speaker 4: how the franchise doesn't really love how people then become
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  Speaker 4: famous after the show, and what I said in response
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  Speaker 4: to that was, well, it doesn't matter what they go
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  Speaker 4: off to do, they're still they're tied to the franchise.
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  Speaker 4: Like you think of Ashley I, she's gone on to
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  Speaker 4: do amazing things and she is incredible, but she's from
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  Speaker 4: The Bachelor and those are her roots and there's nothing
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  Speaker 4: wrong with that. So I don't get why The Bachelor
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  Speaker 4: can't just say, like, yeah, go off and be the
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  Speaker 4: biggest star in the world.
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  Speaker 1: It looks good on us. It's like when a teacher
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  Speaker 1: has a star student stood on the teacher. I don't
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  Speaker 1: get it.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's really interesting. It's like you almost have
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  Speaker 2: to if you can't beat them, join them type of thing.
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  Speaker 2: And I think they're still in the let's beat them process, right,
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, man, you're kind of hanging on to
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  Speaker 2: something that's getting really slippery, and you know, you want
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  Speaker 2: better people to put their names in the ring, and
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  Speaker 2: you want people who are you know, gonna I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I mean this show is still relevant, although I think
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people are talking lately about how it's
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  Speaker 2: lost so much relevance.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm curious about your thoughts on that, and.
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  Speaker 2: Then what you think we could do to to write
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  Speaker 2: that ship, like to get it to a point where
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  Speaker 2: maybe it is, you know, destination viewing for people again.
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  Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I want them to. I think they should
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  Speaker 4: hire me. I feel like I can give them a
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  Speaker 4: lot of pointers. I think is it relevant to answer
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  Speaker 4: your first question? No, I don't think it's relevant today.
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  Speaker 4: Does that mean they can't turn it around? I think
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  Speaker 4: they could turn it around. I think they had like
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  Speaker 4: a blueprint of what the show was in two thousand
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  Speaker 4: and two and they have not updated it in how
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  Speaker 4: many years? I mean, I just covered on my last
• 10:09
  Speaker 4: episode my thoughts on Let's marry Harry, and I didn't
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  Speaker 4: think that was the most groundbreaking television either, but it was.
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  Speaker 4: There was a lot of similarities to The Bachelor, and
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  Speaker 4: I said, they took the Bachelor blueprint.
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  Speaker 1: But made it modern and made it better.
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  Speaker 4: And I just feel there's too many rules with The Bachelor.
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  Speaker 4: For example, Harry sleeps in the house with all the women.
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  Speaker 1: There's no you.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like if you don't get a date with Harry,
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  Speaker 4: you can only see him for ten minutes at a
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  Speaker 4: cocktail party, like he's waken up in his pajamas coming
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  Speaker 4: down for breakfast with the girls and they're taking showers
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  Speaker 4: with him. Like there's so much more room for drama
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  Speaker 4: if they chill out a little bit on the rules, right,
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know, just remember that it's twenty twenty
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  Speaker 4: six and people do have platforms.
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  Speaker 1: Regardless of what you do.
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  Speaker 4: They're gonna get their store out there, whether you silence
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  Speaker 4: them and forbid them to go on podcasts, because then
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  Speaker 4: they'll just make a TikTok about it.
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  Speaker 3: Like this, right right, yeah, the rules?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Yes. We covered that show with Deana Pappas, and
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  Speaker 2: I often when I would listen to it, I kept wondering, like,
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if it's the Disney synergy, right, So, like
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  Speaker 2: because it's still got that ABC Disney stamp on it,
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  Speaker 2: that they want to keep it as wholesome as they can.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why the Caren thing was such a catastrophe,
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  Speaker 2: And that's why all this kind of other stuff seems
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  Speaker 2: like so out of the you know, out of the
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: ethos of what should be a lot on the Bacheler
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  Speaker 2: When you know, then you get like Love Island just
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  Speaker 2: exploding all over the ratings and it's like you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's the complete opposite of how you know, the franchise
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  Speaker 2: is run.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to see it remain relevant. I'd love to
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  Speaker 2: see it still have success.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's interesting when you kind of look back on it,
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  Speaker 2: because of course I was in the very early years.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it was on Trista's season, and then right
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  Speaker 2: after that I was the Bachelor, and it was such
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  Speaker 2: a different time. Yeah, like there was there was no
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  Speaker 2: improv right, there was not. And I don't mean that
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  Speaker 2: from the standpoint of like, you know, I mean, they
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  Speaker 2: didn't tell me what to say ever, first and foremost.
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  Speaker 2: But when people always ask me, like it was it scripted,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, it was not. Now, the stuff that
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  Speaker 2: we did, I had nothing to do with that, right,
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't like, you know, we're on a horseback ride
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  Speaker 2: going down the beach.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't plan that. But if you're tender like it,
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  Speaker 3: well yeah, But I always think.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny because now I feel like there's so much
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  Speaker 2: more flexibility to the show, like, oh, you you can
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  Speaker 2: come back, Like you have so many episodes where people
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  Speaker 2: come back who were sent home early, and that couldn't
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  Speaker 2: have happened during my season if your life depended on.
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  Speaker 4: It, that happened on like Paradise once. When are they
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  Speaker 4: bringing people back?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, like they have like the Golden Rose,
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  Speaker 2: like oh I forgot I wish I would have not
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  Speaker 2: sent this person home, and they bring her back or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: It might be, like they earned something like oh, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, I have no idea of specific you'd probably
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  Speaker 3: know better than I do.
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I have two off the top of my head.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Ashley I in Paradise, she gets sent home because
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  Speaker 4: like she did, no one picked her, and I know
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  Speaker 4: that producers are probably like, we can't have Ashley I
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  Speaker 4: go home.
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  Speaker 1: We need her back. So she she asks the group.
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  Speaker 4: For another chance, and they allow her obviously because they
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  Speaker 4: need her back. And then Chris souls, why do I
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  Speaker 4: have this in my memory at all?
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  Speaker 3: You're amazing. There's like such a such a sponge. I
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  Speaker 3: love it.
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  Speaker 1: It really is so pathetic. And then Chris it was
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  Speaker 1: night one.
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  Speaker 4: He sent some girl home and then she comes back
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  Speaker 4: in and asks for another chance, and he gives it
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  Speaker 4: to her, only to send her home the next time
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  Speaker 4: like the second row.
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  Speaker 3: Cermon, how crazy was that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Those are two I can think of.
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  Speaker 2: I definitely, yeah, I think there was another. Maybe it
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  Speaker 2: was before when did you start covering the show? Like
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  Speaker 2: what what season was your first season?
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing I didn't want. I didn't watch
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  Speaker 4: your season. Sorry, I was a little I was a
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  Speaker 4: little young back then, like probably Brad walmack on either
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  Speaker 4: after second and.
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  Speaker 3: Then how many years there after?
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  Speaker 1: Everything after?
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  Speaker 3: And then how many years there after did you start
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  Speaker 3: your podcast after one? Oh?
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  Speaker 4: So well, I mean I started She's All Batch on
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  Speaker 4: social media in twenty eighteen, and then I started the
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: podcast in twenty twenty one, so recent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get back to this.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know, like, what do you think other than,
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  Speaker 2: you know, other than obviously letting people go out and
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  Speaker 2: speak about the show, what do you think could make
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  Speaker 2: the show more relevant from the standpoint and loosening up
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  Speaker 2: the rules a little bit?
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  Speaker 3: Like do you think the way its distributed makes a difference?
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: You know, because right now everything's on streaming and it's
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: like you can watch so many episodes at once, whereas
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: Bachelor's still in real time or not real time, but
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: obviously it's it's you know, an episode a week type
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: of thing.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: Two hour long episode usually good.
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: I mean the length and how much they milk it
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: that definitely gets frustrating to the viewer.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: I do think the whole streaming thing could.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: Help, like be modern and release the whole season, or
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: at least release like what love a blind does? They
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: release what six episodes, then another three then the reunion,
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: Like you could still make them wait a little bit,
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: but give us something to binge. People want to binge.
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: I don't think the episodes need to be a movie
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: and a half. I think that's insane, especially when if
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: you're gonna make it a three hour finale or reunion
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: or whatever it is, fill it with juicy stuff. Don't
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: make twenty minutes of let's rewatch everything we already saw that.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Like they are just they have these staples.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: In their finales and their reunions that they do every
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: single time.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: And I mean, thank god.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: For DVR to be able to fast forward because I
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: don't need to, especially me when I would watch so
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: I could recap. I'm like, I don't need to see
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: what we've seen all season. I've recorded it already, like
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: it it's a waste of time. Like I think Bravo
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: does a really great job with their reunions. They film
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: for like all day long, and then they cut out
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: they leave in like the juiciest parts, and they cut.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Out all the fluff. I feel like Bachelor lives for fluff.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, it's almost like the opposite, right,
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: They almost like.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Keep the fluff and throw out the stuff that might
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: be offensive to someone, you know, And that's probably what
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: where the problem was. What if they aired the show
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: closer to when it was actually filmed, you know, like
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: when I was the Bachelor, for example, we wrapped filming
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: in July and then my final episode didn't even air
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: until December first, like Thanksgiving weekend or something like that.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: So it was, it was it was a long while,
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: you know, And so part of me.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Sometimes wonders about that too, like, you know, because so
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: much now, like back then, nothing was spelling because there
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: was no social media. Now, so much can come out right, Oh,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: we saw some, and so you know, it's kind of
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: almost like you know, creates spoiler opportunities for the finale,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: and it makes it not as you know, top secret
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: as I'm sure they wanted it to be by design.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: But allow for spoilers.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Allowed it gets people talking about the show. I mean,
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: I don't love you reality, Steve, but I don't like spoilers.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I like to be surprised.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but people do obviously, so don't be such a
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: stickler about spoilers.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: It gets people talking about the show.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: When people think they see the couple and they have
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: a photo in the distance and they're trying to dissect
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: which final girl, it is like, that's only making interest
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: around your show. It's like they try to stop people
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: talking about their show.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I don't get it.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I you know, it is kind of weird.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: What if they got rid of the grand finale of
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: making the show end with a proposal. I sometimes wonder
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: if that's why, you know, I mean, because obviously the
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: knock on the on the show has always been you know,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: oh well, so many couples don't make it right, And
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I sometimes think, you know, man, I think it'd be
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: so interesting if making it wasn't necessarily a proposal, like
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: you know, you know what I mean, Like, for example,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: like I came off of my season, I gave a
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: promise ring right, and yes, it did not eventually work out.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: We were together for five months though, And it's so
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: funny because I'll go out and people be like, oh,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: you broke up with Estella, like a week after the
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: show aired. I'm like, that was still five months after.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: You know, we were dating for five months. So it's
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: interesting to me when that kind of stuff comes up,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: and I sometimes wonder if the show would be more
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: successful without that pressure.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: At the end, Well, question for you, would you have
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: given her a promise ring if everything you knew about
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: her at that point and it was off the show, Like,
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: if you knew everything you knew about her at that
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: point but it wasn't a show, yeah, and you had
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: to go by the promise ring yourself.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Would you have promised her anything?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: No, I would have kept dating her, And that's the
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: thing that you know I would have.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I would have for sure kept dating her.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: But no, there was so much pressure around that, and
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: I remember being terrified, you know, of the moment, like
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: just thinking, oh my god, I you know, I'm not
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: ready to propose, but I don't want to not date
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: her and I want to see where this can go.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: And I was kind of on the front end of
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: that move and a lot of people thought it was
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: a cop out, but in fact it was. It was
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: my option right, like, I can give her this amazing ring,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you know, and it is a Harry
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Winston ring. At the time, it was pretty spectacular, and
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I can give her one of these and
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: we can date. This is amazing, you know.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: A Granted it didn't work, but you know, at the
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: end of the day, it.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Was still a pretty awesome ending to the show. I thought,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean in retrospect. So yeah, who knows.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: It'll be interesting. Who do you think should be the
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: next Bachelor? I mean, we've heard some rumors that it's
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: going to be what spring of twenty twenty seven. I mean,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering, do you have anybody in mind?
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Well, you know about the the rumors that it's Taylor's
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: runner up.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: I was going to ask you about that. What do
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: you think?
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Look, I'm sure Taylor's runner up is a lovely man,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: but this is another person we don't know. How are
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: with their given their history, how are they going to
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: get everyone to be invested in a person they don't know?
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: If we don't we haven't seen anything about him.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: I Oh, it's so frustrating because I think if you're
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: going to come back after everything that we went through
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: this past year, you better come back with a bang,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: and you're going to come back with a guy we
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: don't know. That's super lame.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Do you think it would be the runner up?
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Or do you think because I've heard rumors that it
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: might even be the winner of her season.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: And that's a little different. I didn't know that I
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: would be.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I've heard, I've heard a couple of different angles on
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: this whole thing, so I'd be interested to see. But yeah,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: you're right, like somebody maybe who you know, like Zach
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Afron's brother who was on Dancing with the Stars, right,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: or you know, it could be a.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Whole myriad of people that America knows already.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I wanted it to be Peter Webber for a long
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: long time, but now he has a girlfriend, so that's out.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: You were kind of on the front end of that too,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: of that big announcement, which I thought was pretty interesting.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, with the whole can you interview the lady,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: the producer that wrote the book and.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: All that stuff?
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Do you think that was the moment that may had
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: triggered the no.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: I swear I don't because her like she's in good
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: standings with ABC and she's totally fine with ABC. And honestly,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: she didn't really share much like I really tried, and
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: she was not. She wanted people to go read the book.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't think I really think it was
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: the people that had bad blood maybe with ABC and not.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Truly Yeah, wow, who knows.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, you know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: it's kind of Look, I've always been more fascinated I
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: mean with the behind the scenes producer side of the
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: show that half the time, then you know what's going
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: on on the screen. So I find that to be
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: really interesting and I personally love that you cover that stuff.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: So I think that's great, and you know, love what
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: you're doing and love the whole shooting match. So I'm
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: glad you're having fun with it and you're not going
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: to let anybody get in the way of you continuing
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: to do what you do.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you so much.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, they basically were just saying, like, it wasn't
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: a season desist. I was listening to the conversation that
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: you had with my girl Courtney. Yes, so no, not
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: in any actual legal trouble.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: It was just a.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: In my opinion, it was a scare tactic. I think
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: they wanted to scare me. And I literally an hour
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: after receiving the letter, recorded another interview.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Because I'm like, well, so it didn't work.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, what it did to me was piss me off.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: And now it's like, you know what, if your ship's sinking,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: I'll get off the ship. Then I don't have to
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: keep I mean, like, I cover what I like because
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: I want to be interested in what I do, but
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: I don't have to go out of my way to
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: promote your show anymore exactly.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: And with all your I mean, you have so many
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: listeners and followers, it's like it's a pretty good thing
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: that you are doing that, right, because I think people
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: stay invested and people listen to you all the time.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: And for those who don't, make sure you listen to
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: She's all batch. I think it's an awesome podcast. Stephanie
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Parker of course, is at the tip of the spear
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: of getting things done over there. So thank you so
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: much for joining us, and thanks for making it fun.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad I finally got to meet you and to.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Talk to you, so and I had that same.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: You know, I had a fun experience with Reality Steve
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: a few years ago too, because I had never gotten
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: to talk to him.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: It's how I got to talk to Steve. It was
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: fun too. Where when on his I think he had
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: me a for an interview for something. I can't remember
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: what you want?
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that was a fun one. I actually hung up.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I'm like, God, I really.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Liked that guy.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: He's a nice guy.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: He is he is. Well, congratulations on all your success.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I love it, and I think it's great what you're
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: doing for the show and for the franchise. And I'm
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: sure that you know, if they don't want you, I'm
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: sure you can find another one to boost and take
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: care of us.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: So, you know, I'm sure we'll hear you doing a
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: whole bunch of stuff in the meantime.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: What's your plans for now to when the next one airs?
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Are you still going to be digging into other show? Oh?
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I cover all Like now.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: I for the past couple of years, I've really branched
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: out to just all pop culture, reality TV, whatever really
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: interests me. I love a lot of nostalgia. I love
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: going back to like old reality TV shows like Jersey
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Shore and the stuff that I have a lot of
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: knowledge on, just like Bachelor, So I cover news in
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: that realm. So check out She's all bouch on any
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: social media or podcast platform. But yeah, I mean it's
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: never been that heavily based on the show. The show
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: would kind of help if it was airing, but yeah,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: people like the drama outside the show, and that's what
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: I don't think they understand.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Right. Well, thank you so much, Stephanie.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Thanks for being on the show, Thanks for doing all
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: the things that you do, and for being such an
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: awesome vehicle forgetting the word out there on the good
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: stuff on TV. We appreciate it, and I'd love that
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I got to talk to you and got.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: To know you. So have a lovely rest of your day,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: and thanks for joining me
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: You too, Bye Bob Bye.