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Football at Four: Going Inside NFC East Coaching Moves · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan joins us as promise here on a prior
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  Speaker 1: edition of The Sports Bash. As Adam, it is not
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  Speaker 1: just the Eagles who have been dealing with some coaching changes,
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  Speaker 1: it's the entire a NFCS. I should say, how are
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  Speaker 1: you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: They good to talk to Josh Yetz. Really, you know
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  Speaker 2: what's interesting, Every team made at least one coordinator change.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about offensive defense, not just special teams. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's been a ton of change in the NFC East
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  Speaker 2: on coaching staff. So let's get started because I want
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  Speaker 2: we want to get bring people up to date what
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  Speaker 2: to expect. It's not just regurgitating. We don't do that.
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  Speaker 2: We give you an insight about what's actually to expect.
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  Speaker 2: So let's go to the Washington Let's go to the
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  Speaker 2: commandos in David Blough. Is the OC now kind of
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  Speaker 2: like the Eagles are dealing with with their situation at
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  Speaker 2: offense coordinator with Sean Mannion Blow has only coached for
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  Speaker 2: two years, but the difference is he's never run a
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  Speaker 2: room on his own, so he's very inexperienced. He stopped
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  Speaker 2: playing after the twenty three season. I see stopped playing.
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  Speaker 2: He was a third string quarterback, least in a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of playing time. But Blouse really smart. He's a
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  Speaker 2: young guy. He's actually thirty or thirty one years old.
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  Speaker 2: He's actually younger than Sean Manion. And my understanding here
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  Speaker 2: was that they were, well, there are a couple of things.
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  Speaker 2: So with the situation with Cliff Kingsbury, who was let go,
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  Speaker 2: he and the head coach, Dan Quinn did not see
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  Speaker 2: to eye on the really the direction of the offense.
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  Speaker 2: They're running games surprisingly very good. That that was surprising,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't get the feeling talking to a people
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  Speaker 2: closest situation that Quinn was very comfortable with some of
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  Speaker 2: the way that the game was called and the way
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  Speaker 2: they just didn't see the game at eye on the
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  Speaker 2: function of the offense. So he was let go. He's
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  Speaker 2: now going to be an offensive consultant for the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: And they were also concerns Josh at Blown might go
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  Speaker 2: to Chicago with Ben Johnson or somewhere else. So they said,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, let's promote him. We won't hire from
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  Speaker 2: the outside. Let's promoted him. You got to help him
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  Speaker 2: along a little bit. But David Blau is a first
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  Speaker 2: time play caller and he's going to run a little
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  Speaker 2: bit for what he knows about the Ben Johnson concepts
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  Speaker 2: because he was with him as a player.
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  Speaker 1: Really quick before we get to fight on the line,
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  Speaker 1: how much did Blow being a former quarterback, maybe be
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  Speaker 1: involved in this higher because we know Kingsbury also is
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  Speaker 1: a former quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Kingsbury's drafted by the Patriots. Belchick actually loved him,
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  Speaker 2: by the way. In fact, he tried to get him
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  Speaker 2: on a staff and a couple of times it just
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  Speaker 2: didn't work out. But it's just more because he they
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  Speaker 2: think he's super smart. Now, one little nugget for you,
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  Speaker 2: in addition to what we just talked about, the thing
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  Speaker 2: with him is going to be command. He's very young. Again,
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  Speaker 2: he's very young in his coaching career, and you got
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  Speaker 2: to get buy in the quarterback. Daniels will I don't
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  Speaker 2: have the problem with that. It's just the other veterans
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  Speaker 2: around him. Whether it's a tight end to receivers getting
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  Speaker 2: buy in, but they all know being around him, he's very,
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  Speaker 2: very smart. And then defensively, Giante Jones been the defensive
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  Speaker 2: system for a number of years. This is the first
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  Speaker 2: time he's going to call defense. So what you're probably
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  Speaker 2: going to see is He said they're going to be multiple,
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  Speaker 2: but that doesn't tell you anything. Every defense is multiple.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody plays a thirty four every down on place of
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  Speaker 2: forty three every down. They changed the front. Dan Quinn
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  Speaker 2: runs a hybrid forty three front. That's what I think
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  Speaker 2: you're going to get. Had they had really just the
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  Speaker 2: terrible injury situation. The Commanders and Cardinals missed the most
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  Speaker 2: man games on defense this season. That's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: time when you're missing Both edges were out, They missed
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  Speaker 2: most of the season. Their second round corner who played
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  Speaker 2: really well, Trey Amis, played really well until before he
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  Speaker 2: got hurt. You know, he missed most of the season.
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  Speaker 2: They missed too many players in the secondary. But a
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  Speaker 2: lot of them are going to be back. And look,
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  Speaker 2: this is the team was what fourteen and three two
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  Speaker 2: seasons ago, and they were bad last season mostly due
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  Speaker 2: to injury. So they're expecting to get things going here
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  Speaker 2: and there going to look completely different. It's kind of
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  Speaker 2: amazing to me, Josh, when you look at the Commandos.
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  Speaker 2: They shocked the world two years ago. They excuse me,
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  Speaker 2: they were twelve and five and twenty four, as you know,
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  Speaker 2: but they came out of the blue there they destroy
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  Speaker 2: a team that nobody saw come doing what they did.
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  Speaker 2: And they they had that great game where they bombed
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  Speaker 2: the Lions, they got by the Bucks. Then they want
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  Speaker 2: they lost, you know, against the Eagles, they got smoke
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  Speaker 2: fifty five to twenty three. But they're changing things over.
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  Speaker 2: But I know from talking to them, they really feeling
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  Speaker 2: strongly that they've got their franchise quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: So with Adam Kaplan NFL Insider, Inside the Bird Podcast,
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  Speaker 1: had a Philly for Mike gil All nice seven three ESPN.
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  Speaker 1: Well Adam. While the Commanders are recalibrating after a disappointing
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  Speaker 1: season with injuries, the Dallas Cowboys are now hiring I
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  Speaker 1: believe it's what the third different defensive coordinator in the
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  Speaker 1: last four years.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so it was Mike Zimmer. Didn't work out well
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  Speaker 2: for Zim running his forty three front, then Maddie reflosed.
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  Speaker 2: He kept the forty three for two seasons. That was
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  Speaker 2: an absolute disaster. And yeah, it's Christian Parker. Christian Parker
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  Speaker 2: one of the best defensive back coaches in the National
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  Speaker 2: Football League. But you know what, that sounds great, players
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  Speaker 2: like them. That doesn't mean he's going to be defensive
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  Speaker 2: coordinator a good one. You don't know until you get there.
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  Speaker 2: That's a coaching note. That's the way coaches speak when
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  Speaker 2: they evaluate other coaches. It all sounds great, but the
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  Speaker 2: problem is they've been so undisciplined. They've got some bad
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  Speaker 2: football character guys where not off the field. Mostly it's
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  Speaker 2: guys playing hero ball, being coachable, doing things the way
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  Speaker 2: you're supposed to do it. I should know if I'm
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  Speaker 2: talking to the coaches have worked there. It's not easy
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  Speaker 2: to coach guys in their defense. They're very talented, but
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  Speaker 2: the football character thing has gotten them so far, and
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  Speaker 2: that's why there as you just said, you're right, three
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  Speaker 2: de coordinators in four years and Parker is the first
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  Speaker 2: time play caller. Sounds great. We know he's very well respected.
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  Speaker 2: But until you've done it before, you haven't done it.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll see. We'll see if you get them to
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  Speaker 2: play any with much more discipline on defense.
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  Speaker 1: How much concern is there that we saw when Dann
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  Speaker 1: and let the Eagles went to the Cardinals. Guys like
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  Speaker 1: Josh Sweatt and others went within the Arizona Is there
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  Speaker 1: any concern that the Eagles current crop of free agents
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  Speaker 1: could follow Parker to Dallas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mentioned this a week or so ago. I said, Look, guys,
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  Speaker 2: don't be surprised because this happens with a lot of
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  Speaker 2: offensive defensive coordinators. When they get a new job, it's
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  Speaker 2: they want to bring in their guys, whether they coached
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  Speaker 2: them or they were on the side of their football
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  Speaker 2: that they were on. Like guys like na Kobe Dean
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  Speaker 2: Reading Blankenship, super smart football players would come in and
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  Speaker 2: start right away. There would be no debate. They would start.
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  Speaker 2: And don't forget the Cowboys miss big Leo, Logan Wilson.
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  Speaker 2: They made that trade with the Bengals and you got
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  Speaker 2: oh Nakobe would be starting middle line backer. Now, the
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  Speaker 2: thing with Dallas is when you look at their safety position,
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  Speaker 2: they're with Malie Cooker and Jonathan Wilson's contract I think
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  Speaker 2: is up. So yeah, I put that out there last
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  Speaker 2: week because I just felt strongly, knowing the way coaches
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  Speaker 2: think from talking to new coordinators over the years, they
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  Speaker 2: always want their guys who know the system. It's very important.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like they could teach it because he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: run Fangio and you know what's coming. They're gonna run us.
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  Speaker 2: We shouldn't mention this. The front's gonna change. They running
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  Speaker 2: forty three mostly for a number of years. It's gonna
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  Speaker 2: change right now, folks. So I'm interested because the Parker
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  Speaker 2: is really a good coach. Can he get buy in?
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  Speaker 2: Can he get better disciplined? We'll see if they do.
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  Speaker 2: They've won their chief for a number of years. It
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  Speaker 2: could be a much better defense.
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  Speaker 1: And then the third team in the NFC STA has
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  Speaker 1: gone not just a one coordinator, this is the complete
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  Speaker 1: coaching staff overhauls the New York Giants. Let's start with
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  Speaker 1: the former Eagle coach John Harball. People know about his
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  Speaker 1: success in Baltimore, Adam, what can we expect from Harball
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  Speaker 1: with the Giants.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so as coordinators both coached in Philly, Matt Naggi
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  Speaker 2: and Denard Wilson. Matt Naggi was with Harbs here in
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  Speaker 2: Philly before John become the Ravens head coach. Naggi's gonna
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  Speaker 2: run more of a spread scheme that when he took
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  Speaker 2: what he learned from Andy Reid and kind of changed
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  Speaker 2: him things up, and he also does well with quarterbacks
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  Speaker 2: in terms of he will coach Hardt. Patrick Mahomes's best
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  Speaker 2: season as a professional was in twenty twenty two, and
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  Speaker 2: Naggie was his quarterbacks coach. Naggie was incredible year one
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  Speaker 2: with the Bears. Year two is okay. The last two
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  Speaker 2: years were not good for Naggie. Let's call it like
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  Speaker 2: it is. I don't know Matt, but my job is
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  Speaker 2: call it down the middle. He didn't do well. Now
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  Speaker 2: he also coached mich Trubisky. That's hard. No, it's been
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  Speaker 2: able to really get to him. They didn't make the
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  Speaker 2: playoffs once with Mitch. But but to run I spread
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  Speaker 2: more of a spread offense where three receivers going. We're
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  Speaker 2: eleven personnel. You've got to have the personnel. You've got
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  Speaker 2: to have the receivers. Milik neighbors Josh, we know he's
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  Speaker 2: come back with town acl he's great. Gary Slaton can
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  Speaker 2: flat out run wan No Robinson the slot receiver, his
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  Speaker 2: contracts up. They don't have any depth at all, so
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  Speaker 2: they've got a lot of work to do. The Giants
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  Speaker 2: do a Joe Shane, the gentleal manager does and John
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  Speaker 2: Hallboy has a lot of control with he's he'll be
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  Speaker 2: more involved with the personnel side than he has before.
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  Speaker 2: Offensive lines had major problems really for a number of years.
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  Speaker 2: Their defense, their front is fantastic for Jernard Wilson. Jernard
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  Speaker 2: Wilson Josh didn't really get a fair shake in Tennessee
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  Speaker 2: because they had two or three good players. The rest
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  Speaker 2: of the defense is horrendous. They don't the red rush
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  Speaker 2: as a joke. So you go to the Giants, where
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  Speaker 2: they've got a great ass rush group. We know that
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  Speaker 2: with Brian Burns's terrific, but Duill Carter came on late.
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  Speaker 2: Thibodeau finally he's on his fifth year option. Truny Golson's
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  Speaker 2: a good player, so they're loaded there. They're really good
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  Speaker 2: at linebacker. They got some problems at corner, they're good
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  Speaker 2: at safety. The defense has a chance to be outstanding
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  Speaker 2: with a little bit of help, and we know about
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  Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence. The issue now is their offensive line, like
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  Speaker 2: it always is, can they protect and uh talking to
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  Speaker 2: scam someone's close to camp Scotta bow he should be good.
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  Speaker 2: He should He should be able to work after the
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  Speaker 2: draft a little bit and then obviously be ready for
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  Speaker 2: training camp, but that was a major injury suffered and
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  Speaker 2: you saw how the running game suffered after he got hurt.
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  Speaker 1: I think the big interesting thing also with these hire
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  Speaker 1: Adam is that you're getting a guy at Horriball that's
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of cashe he's got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: experience as a head coach. You're the past two guys
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  Speaker 1: Dable back before that you have McAdoo, right, Joe Judge,
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  Speaker 1: these were guys you didn't have a lot of egg
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  Speaker 1: coaching experience. Is kind of I want to say it's
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  Speaker 1: the same, but does have a little vibe of when
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  Speaker 1: they hired Tom Coughlin years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's different. I mean, Maggie's got experience.
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  Speaker 2: Brian Callahan as their quarterbacks coach. Chathall, I'm told the
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  Speaker 2: receiver cool Beaver receivers coach. He would have been the
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks coach had they not hired Callahan. And Paul Chathall
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  Speaker 2: was their assistant quarterbacks coach last year. Chat Hall a
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  Speaker 2: top three receivers coach. So that's a really good staff
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  Speaker 2: that Now, look, we got to see what happens in
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  Speaker 2: free agency in the draft for that football team, but
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  Speaker 2: they could be one of those breakout teams. They severely
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  Speaker 2: unachieved last season. It's funny I got lucky on that
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  Speaker 2: over under was six and a half. I like the under.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how many games did they choke last season?
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  Speaker 2: They should have had nine or ten wins. It's embarrassing.
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  Speaker 2: How bad, really bad, like really bad, how many chokes
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  Speaker 2: they had? So with Harve's in there, you know what's coming.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Roman from Atlantic City. He's arguably the NFL's best
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  Speaker 2: run game designer. He's a senior offensive system but he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna help them with their run game. They got a chance, folks,
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  Speaker 2: I know there are a lot of Giant fans listening.
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  Speaker 2: They've got a chance to make a major jump this season.
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  Speaker 1: They absolutely do, and honestly, I wouldn't mind it, just
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  Speaker 1: because I think the NFC is a little better in
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  Speaker 1: the Giants in the Eagles matchup is good?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? I actually said that the Jeff after the
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  Speaker 2: season was over. I was like, you know what, you
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  Speaker 2: guys finally broke that twenty year mold twenty one years
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  Speaker 2: since they had a repeat winner, and the Eagles were
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  Speaker 2: that repeat winner. But man, the Commanders were terrible. The
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  Speaker 2: Giants were choke ours. You know, the cowboys do what
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  Speaker 2: they do. They're just Jason Van would say, cowboys are
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  Speaker 2: going to a cowboy. They do, that's what they do.
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  Speaker 2: They have no discipline, and we'll see what happens. But
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  Speaker 2: it would be nice. It would be nice because you
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  Speaker 2: saw what the Bears did. The Bears finally, Josh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they finally showed something. It would be nice if there
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  Speaker 2: was a division where like every team's over five hundred
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  Speaker 2: or close to it. Now when you look at it,
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  Speaker 2: the only one, the NFC North North was the only
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  Speaker 2: division where every team was at least over five hundred.
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  Speaker 2: Bears Packers both made it. Minnesota was nine eight, Detroit
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  Speaker 2: was nine and eight. The reason why they're only ninet
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  Speaker 2: is because they had major injury problems. So yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: would be great, man, I mean, it would be nice
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  Speaker 2: that they would have put way more juice when we
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  Speaker 2: would talk about these teams each week.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds good. Assume you