Latest / Bloomberg Intelligence / SG's Juckes Says USD/JPY Could Easily Trade Down to 100 (Audio)
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- 1:24Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Today. The president of the Federal Bank of Dallas,
- 1:29Speaker 1: Robert Kaplan, said he supports the FED moving at a
- 1:33Speaker 1: gradual place. Depending on the economy, that pace could be
- 1:37Speaker 1: faster or slower towards more interest rate increases. Well, the
- 1:41Speaker 1: currency market is betting that after the government reported a
- 1:45Speaker 1: first quarter GDP growth rate of just zero point five percent,
- 1:49Speaker 1: that interest rates are a long way off, and that's
- 1:52Speaker 1: one of the reasons that the Fed continues a three
- 1:55Speaker 1: month drop. Joining us now to sort this all out
- 1:58Speaker 1: for the currency market. Kitch you Global Strategistics Society General
- 2:02Speaker 1: in London, Kit, welcome back. Hi. Well, you know, the
- 2:07Speaker 1: Fed keeps saying one thing, although I think in fairness
- 2:09Speaker 1: to Rob Kaplan. He didn't say that there was going
- 2:11Speaker 1: to raise raids in June or you know, any time,
- 2:14Speaker 1: except that they will at some point. But the dollar
- 2:17Speaker 1: seems to me is it responding as much to the
- 2:20Speaker 1: just the weakness in the economy and the power of
- 2:22Speaker 1: that message. Um, I think it's reacting partly to a
- 2:26Speaker 1: sluggage economy for sure, but possibly even mortally the FEDS
- 2:31Speaker 1: emphasis at the moment on giving the economy a chance.
- 2:35Speaker 1: I'm turning around and saying that even as market measures
- 2:38Speaker 1: of inflation expectations have been edging a little bit higher,
- 2:41Speaker 1: as wage growth has even picked up a little bit,
- 2:43Speaker 1: and you know recently, um, that they're really not bothered.
- 2:47Speaker 1: I think that was one of them, you know. So
- 2:48Speaker 1: there were two messages from the Fed in the middle
- 2:50Speaker 1: of the week. One is, yeah, you know, we're not ready.
- 2:52Speaker 1: The economy is just trundling along. And the second was
- 2:56Speaker 1: we think we think in patient rely measures pressures a
- 3:00Speaker 1: very absent and that means we're not in a hurry.
- 3:02Speaker 1: So you have you have a market that's pricing forward
- 3:05Speaker 1: expectations of inflation higher, a central bank that doesn't care,
- 3:08Speaker 1: and a dollar that's going down. Kit chukes. Can you
- 3:13Speaker 1: tell us who are the people who are the big
- 3:15Speaker 1: players in the foreign exchange market. The foreign exchange market
- 3:19Speaker 1: doesn't move by itself. It's got people behind it. Who
- 3:21Speaker 1: are they? I think that there's been a there's been
- 3:24Speaker 1: a mad rush of all sorts of people to benefit
- 3:27Speaker 1: from the strong dollar in the last I guess the
- 3:31Speaker 1: last eighteen months or so, so European investors who have
- 3:34Speaker 1: been buying US as that European investors who have been
- 3:37Speaker 1: going short of the short of the of the urosay
- 3:39Speaker 1: and long of the dollar when the European Central Band
- 3:41Speaker 1: moves negative reds. There have been certainly an enormous number
- 3:45Speaker 1: of the kind of leverage trading community, the edge one community,
- 3:48Speaker 1: who have had a long dollar that as part of
- 3:51Speaker 1: the gloomy assessment of the global economy and a trade
- 3:54Speaker 1: on a trade on monetary policy diversions. You've had a
- 3:59Speaker 1: lot of hedging from the corporate sector, for whom a
- 4:03Speaker 1: strong dollar is certainly a concern. If you're an American
- 4:07Speaker 1: corporate selling products overseas, you have been hedging pretty much
- 4:11Speaker 1: having you can in the currency in case the dollar rises.
- 4:13Speaker 1: So it's it's companies, it's hedge funds, it's traders and
- 4:18Speaker 1: it's people managing pension funds all over the world, but
- 4:21Speaker 1: too many of them with one trade the same way
- 4:24Speaker 1: around for sure. When we look back at the last
- 4:25Speaker 1: few months, So kit uh, the bigger Japan did not
- 4:29Speaker 1: cut its negative rates even more negative the bigger Japan.
- 4:33Speaker 1: Mr Krona wants to give the recent moves a chance
- 4:36Speaker 1: to work. How has that played out in the currency market?
- 4:39Speaker 1: What does it mean moving ahead? Because one of surprises,
- 4:41Speaker 1: of course, has been the strength in the end. Even
- 4:43Speaker 1: with Japan, we've been to a negative rate policy. Yeah,
- 4:46Speaker 1: I mean, I think they botched their move to negative
- 4:49Speaker 1: rates at the end of January. The the negative rate
- 4:52Speaker 1: policies intended to encourage people to invest overseas. Japanese investors
- 4:55Speaker 1: were invested overseas over enthusiastic be already and in January
- 5:00Speaker 1: when markets were melting down, they couldn't do much more
- 5:02Speaker 1: and that that started this off. Um, you know, either
- 5:06Speaker 1: they've made a policy mistake and they just need to
- 5:08Speaker 1: wait for the for the dust to settle, or they've
- 5:12Speaker 1: they've made a policy to negative rates and they want
- 5:14Speaker 1: to wait and see how it does, how it works,
- 5:16Speaker 1: and their more adult calm and grown up and fools
- 5:18Speaker 1: like me and my like in the market. That's that's
- 5:22Speaker 1: possible too. But either way they may well get dolly
- 5:26Speaker 1: yen a lot closer to a hundred pliant of time
- 5:28Speaker 1: they're done. Um, the yen is strengthening. There's a resistance
- 5:32Speaker 1: at the moment of reluctance to intervene in the foreign
- 5:34Speaker 1: exchange markets. Um. That that's that's not something that people
- 5:38Speaker 1: are keen to do at the moment, sort of fuel
- 5:40Speaker 1: the talk of currency wars. Um. And I think they're
- 5:43Speaker 1: just they're just sitting it out for a bit. But
- 5:44Speaker 1: that the danger is, you know that buying the yen
- 5:47Speaker 1: is the new big thing, just as I don't know,
- 5:50Speaker 1: buying all sorts of other things has been in time.
- 5:52Speaker 1: So we're going to overshoot. I don't know how to
- 5:54Speaker 1: cope with an overshoot to you know, to a hundred
- 5:57Speaker 1: dollar yen, which is another seven per cent or so
- 5:59Speaker 1: from here. You know, do I buy the yen or
- 6:01Speaker 1: do I wait to tell the end there? Or do
- 6:02Speaker 1: I just go and have a long weekend, which I'm
- 6:05Speaker 1: getting here now. And maybe maybe it's got a t
- 6:08Speaker 1: or is something more that starts with than m possibly
- 6:13Speaker 1: kit speak if you can about the investors that may
- 6:18Speaker 1: be trapped in a long dollar trade now unwinding to
- 6:22Speaker 1: go to a long Japanese yen trade. Will they get
- 6:26Speaker 1: trapped there too? Um? Some of them, I think. I
- 6:29Speaker 1: think the rush into the yen at the moment has
- 6:32Speaker 1: been um. Short term traders. I think you've got some.
- 6:36Speaker 1: I think if you've had a balance of people in
- 6:38Speaker 1: the world, you have some long term investors who are
- 6:40Speaker 1: still shortly en um, and you have some short term
- 6:44Speaker 1: investors who are along the n and the short term
- 6:46Speaker 1: investors are moving us right now. I think some of
- 6:49Speaker 1: them may be fact. I mean, you know, not a
- 6:51Speaker 1: lot of people have been gods of trading in this
- 6:53Speaker 1: market in the last three months. It's been a very
- 6:55Speaker 1: difficult start of the year with with with trends breaking
- 6:59Speaker 1: up and moving quite violent the other way. So I
- 7:02Speaker 1: would expect several people, you know, plenty of people, more
- 7:05Speaker 1: people than I can count, will well, we'll find that
- 7:08Speaker 1: they can't manage the full in doll again and then
- 7:10Speaker 1: the subsequent bands and um, and you know, I don't
- 7:13Speaker 1: think we could. We could easily trade down near a
- 7:16Speaker 1: hundred and up near a hundred and twenty old before.
- 7:18Speaker 1: I don't know if you're like the fourth of this right.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Thank you very much at Kit Juke's Global strategy Associate General.
- 7:25Speaker 1: The end right now trading at one oh six to
- 7:28Speaker 1: the dollar, Eurospot one fifty, and the British pound at
- 7:34Speaker 1: one forty six. Japanese yends gained eleven percent against the
- 7:37Speaker 1: US dollars since the beginning of the year. You're listening
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