Latest / Uncluttered and Unfiltered: The Podcast For Women Over 50 / ENCORE EPISODE: WOMEN OVER 50 ON THE MEL ROBBINS "LET THEM" THEORY AND BOOK
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- 0:04Welcome to uncluttered and unfiltered, the podcast urging
- 0:08you to let it go and don't look back with nationally acclaimed
- 0:12professional organizer Christine Stone and self-proclaimed hot
- 0:17damn mess radio and TV personality Eden Kendall.
- 0:21Welcome everybody to uncluttered and unfiltered, the podcast for
- 0:24women over 50. My name is Eden Kendall.
- 0:26Christine Stone is a professional organizer, so any
- 0:30organizing tips you take away from this will certainly only be
- 0:34from her and not me. But be careful, you might just
- 0:37learn something. How are you good?
- 0:38How are you after the race? Oh well.
- 0:41How am I? I just sat there and like
- 0:43clapped and you know, we. We have a very, very big weekend
- 0:48event. Here in North.
- 0:49Florida called the Donna Marathon weekend and our mayor.
- 0:54Coincidentally, she's now our mayor.
- 0:55But she used to be a news anchor found Donna Deegan, who has had
- 1:00three bouts with breast cancer, has this gigantic marathon
- 1:05weekend to finish breast cancer. It's called the marathon to
- 1:08finish breast cancer. I ran the half marathon and it
- 1:10goes right by your house. Yes, which is?
- 1:12So fun. Isn't that funny?
- 1:14Yeah. I love that I get a chance to
- 1:15see you. But it was fun.
- 1:16But what what happened the next day was this always happens on a
- 1:20Sunday. So I ran this half marathon.
- 1:23A lot of people ran the full marathon.
- 1:25A lot of people was first time right?
- 1:28I try to go every year. We had photos here at the TV
- 1:31station and that was on Monday and I only had one air of shoes
- 1:36to match my dress and these are full length photos.
- 1:39I couldn't get them on my feet. See I have these really high
- 1:42heeled shoes, could not get them on my feet the next day after
- 1:45the race. But I had no choice.
- 1:47I had to cram them in and walk around in these shoes because
- 1:50they were what I had chosen already for the photos.
- 1:52But you know, first world problems as they.
- 1:55Well, I laughed so hard that I'm sitting there just clapping
- 1:59away, telling my husband I can't see far away.
- 2:01I can only see close up, find her and let me know so I can
- 2:05videotape it. And he kept saying the whole
- 2:07time, that's her. No, it's not, that's her.
- 2:10No, it's not. I'm like, I'm not going to take
- 2:12you seriously in a minute and I'm going to miss it.
- 2:15So that that's what happens. As you're older, you have to say
- 2:18which one do you want to see better up close or far away You
- 2:21have. To make these.
- 2:22Choices. You have to make these.
- 2:23Hard choices. I saw YouTube before you saw
- 2:26right, so I was able to run and get right in your faces and I
- 2:28loved it and I loved having that video afterwards.
- 2:30Oh my God. It was very rarely do I ever get
- 2:32to see. I always want to see.
- 2:33Do I look like I'm dying? Do I look like I'm having fun?
- 2:35And I Oh, no, you look like you were having fun.
- 2:38I look like I was dying just watching people running.
- 2:41I'm like, that looks painful. Like I would have commentaries
- 2:45of like, God, that maybe I should go give them something.
- 2:48You know what I mean? Some people look like they are
- 2:51in pain, yes. I mean, and that that's very
- 2:54often is me too, but not in this case.
- 2:56Not in this case. So today's episode is about a
- 3:00book that is sweeping the nation.
- 3:01It's by Mel Robbins, who we. Love, I love Mel.
- 3:05And she has written a book along with her daughter Sawyer called
- 3:09the Let Them Theory. And this was after making some
- 3:14videos from her podcast where she was talking about the Let
- 3:18Them theory. And it went so viral that she
- 3:21thought, I need to make this into an entire book.
- 3:23Yes, there was some backlash as to whether or not did she really
- 3:26create the Let Them theory. I don't know that she ever
- 3:29really said she created it. But whether she did or she
- 3:32didn't, she's the one who wrote a book.
- 3:34So that's what we're talking about today.
- 3:37And I think when you get as big as she is, you're going to have
- 3:41backlash because people want to, you know, poo poo all over
- 3:44whatever good things are happening.
- 3:45So I kind of ignore that a little bit.
- 3:48Did. You let them.
- 3:48You just said I. Just said, you know what, you're
- 3:50going to always have those detractors and people who are
- 3:55not happy for your success, whatever it may be.
- 3:59It's, I mean, listen, I I think she's amazing.
- 4:02I. Yes.
- 4:04So. When she speaks, she speaks at
- 4:07you so confidently, like when she says listen and do this.
- 4:11She even has a book or a podcast called This is What You Should
- 4:14Do. She's very specific and
- 4:15intentional. But when we discussed the idea
- 4:18that we should read this book and also the Brooke Shields book
- 4:21and talk about it on the podcast, I didn't realize you
- 4:25were stressing. Out.
- 4:26Oh my God, why? Because I wrote this down
- 4:29because I couldn't even remember the last time I read a book.
- 4:33I mean, a real book was the James Fry when he was on Oprah
- 4:38Book Club, Million Little Pieces.
- 4:40OK, it's. Been a minute.
- 4:43OK. And Prince of Tides.
- 4:46Oh my gosh, so my kids even bore.
- 4:48Me right, no, I wasn't even married.
- 4:51OK, So I was like, how am I going to do this?
- 4:56And then my daughter said do it on tape.
- 4:59And I like, you know, audible, Audible and I go what?
- 5:03She goes, you can listen to it. It's like a podcast, but it's a
- 5:06book. So I go on and I'm listening,
- 5:09but I don't want to tell you because I feel like I'm
- 5:11cheating. What does she know?
- 5:15And I'm an I consider myself a prolific reader.
- 5:19I read, I'm always reading a book.
- 5:21But here's here's what I guess I should also mention when I tell
- 5:26people I'm reading a book, I'm not reading and I'm listening.
- 5:29To OK, well, I didn't know that. Every single book that I've read
- 5:33since you've known me, I have only listened to it because my
- 5:37mind, it's the same thing. I've absorbed everything that
- 5:41the author wrote and what I love about when I read a book, read a
- 5:46book that is a a memoir, I feel like the author told me their
- 5:51life story. Personally, like Cher, I feel
- 5:54like I know her right now so well because she just read me
- 5:57her life story. So it's it's great.
- 6:00And the narration on the Let them.
- 6:02Book is fantastic, is fantastic. You feel like she's your best
- 6:05friend and you're sitting at her house and she's telling I I
- 6:08thought that I thought that's better than reading the book.
- 6:12Sorry, everybody, but I really, really did.
- 6:14I thought that her the way she even gets emotional while she's
- 6:19reading it, it just feels more authentic and more real in my
- 6:23opinion. It was great.
- 6:25I so now what we aim to do is discuss the book, the premise,
- 6:30not in a way where you don't need to go out and get the book
- 6:33right, but in a way where if you're never going to go out and
- 6:36get the book, you at least can benefit from the words that we
- 6:39read. But I think you you're going to
- 6:41want it. And also at least some of her
- 6:43podcasts where she discusses it. Getting opinion from women over
- 6:4750 too. Because you and I both had a
- 6:49couple of opinions. We did everything will get in
- 6:52agreement. Well, not everything was really
- 6:54relatable to people over 50 either, like some of the things
- 6:59so. Yeah, it's a 2 fold premise.
- 7:02It's let them let me. So let them means, oh, your
- 7:07friends all went out and had a happy hour and they didn't
- 7:10invite you and you only just found out from seeing it on
- 7:12social media. Let them, let them.
- 7:16They're grown women. They can invite who they want to
- 7:18invite, but let me think about, should I do some reaching out on
- 7:24my own? Should I be the one maybe
- 7:27suggesting some get together so they know I'm game for the next
- 7:30one? Should I, you know, drop these
- 7:33friends? What should I be doing about it?
- 7:35So let them and then let me. So most of it is common sense.
- 7:42I thought a lot of it was, and what happened was I couldn't get
- 7:46the Jerry Maguire scene out of my head.
- 7:49Let me help you once. She said it once.
- 7:53I'm like, oh God, now I can't get that Cuba Gooding Junior Tom
- 7:57Cruise scene out of my head because that's all.
- 7:59I kept thinking like me help you.
- 8:03But one of the things I love too was she was talking about her
- 8:08son's prom. And this was a classic example
- 8:13of using the let them philosophy, which is he didn't
- 8:16put a lot of planning into his prom.
- 8:20He asked her at the last minute, the date he he is asked by his
- 8:25mom, Mel Robbins, does he want a corsage?
- 8:28And he's like, Nope, she doesn't need a corsage.
- 8:31She does not let them. She goes and gets a corsage
- 8:34anyway because she's like going to be the hero if at the last
- 8:37minute he needs a corsage. And then not only that doesn't
- 8:41plan for where they're going to go eat afterwards.
- 8:43There's a reservation and she's losing her mind versus what let
- 8:47them would be, which is let them go.
- 8:50Let them let them show up to the restaurant and not get a table.
- 8:52Let them stand in the rain because they didn't plan.
- 8:54Let them let these things happen.
- 8:57And I am that mom that would have bought that corsage.
- 9:00Oh, I am the mom. It like I don't know what
- 9:04happened but my older daughter said oh I need a boutonniere.
- 9:11I said the prom is tomorrow. Well I need 1 so of course I run
- 9:17out all over town, people even. Because every prom is.
- 9:21The same time exactly. And even the woman at the
- 9:24florist like bullied me and was like, you're waiting until now.
- 9:29I said it's a long story. Is there any way?
- 9:32I mean, I've done that so many times.
- 9:35So that really rang true for me. But especially when you have
- 9:38girls, you feel like you need to step in and you know better and
- 9:42you've been there. And, you know, I, I just think
- 9:45that that really was exactly what a lot of moms tend to do.
- 9:49They just step in and say, you can't do this without making a
- 9:53reservation. You can't.
- 9:55You know, I think now hindsight, I might have let them, Yeah, you
- 10:00know. Yeah, and that's exactly what
- 10:02happened there. She went ahead and she did pull
- 10:03that corsage out when the girl gave him a boutonniere.
- 10:08Only after she did that did she realize in a very embarrassed
- 10:11state, that she had made her own corsage.
- 10:14So it was kind of an embarrassing situation.
- 10:16Now the girl's like, oh OK, I'll wear it and the the sun's.
- 10:19Furious. Whereas that's when sometimes
- 10:23you just, as you said, have to let.
- 10:25So another part of the book that really stood out to me, and I've
- 10:30struggled with this. I want to save my whole life and
- 10:32now I'm just going to stop. So I say is when someone has an
- 10:37issue with something you do, they think that maybe you're, I
- 10:41don't know, a pain in the neck when you're doing this or they
- 10:44just have these little beefs with you.
- 10:46It doesn't mean they don't love and like you, right?
- 10:48And that's something that for me, I always have stressed
- 10:52uncontrollably about. If I do or say something that I
- 10:55know might have been a misstep, I think that person is going to
- 10:58hate me. And in reality, you have things
- 11:03your husband does that drive you crazy.
- 11:04There are things that my daughter does or my son does
- 11:07that I don't love. About that but.
- 11:09I love them unconditionally. I think with friends some and Co
- 11:14workers and what have you, sometimes you think if you make
- 11:17a mistake that you're they're just not going to like you
- 11:19anymore. That's just not the case.
- 11:21So I took that away from this book.
- 11:24I I liked OK. I wrote it down because I was
- 11:27pretty impressed with the five why's.
- 11:30Yeah, let's talk about that. The reason why I liked that so
- 11:33much, and it's the premise, is if something bothers you about
- 11:37somebody else five times, you're supposed to ask, ask yourself
- 11:42why. So you dwindle it down to the
- 11:44real reason by the 5th why? I that's what I took away from.
- 12:28It So let's put that in practice.
- 12:30How can we do that? All right, let's say the the
- 12:33daughter doesn't have a boutonniere and it's the day
- 12:35before. Why are you upset?
- 12:40Right, because you don't want her to.
- 12:41You don't want her to be the only one that didn't do a
- 12:44boutonniere. Well why?
- 12:46Why would you be upset that she isn't the only because she would
- 12:50feel out of place? Well, why would she feel out of
- 12:54place? You know, like you're really
- 12:56dwindling it down to the point where you're like, really, it's
- 12:59about you. That's what I think the fifth
- 13:02why is always like, well, why do you care?
- 13:06Yeah, well, how is this your? Right, right.
- 13:07How is this your issue? So you could do that with
- 13:11someone who drinks too much, someone who you know doesn't
- 13:15have the same values as you. Anything that you kind of
- 13:18differ, it's like, well, why does that bother you really?
- 13:23What is that? I just love really.
- 13:26I never really thought of it that way before.
- 13:28We you have to keep asking why, And to me that was a really kind
- 13:33of eye opening thing. Yeah, because 9 out of 10 things
- 13:37that I worry about or or stress about that keep me laying awake
- 13:41looking at the ceiling at night are either a text that somebody
- 13:44didn't reply to. What could they be thinking?
- 13:47What could they possibly be thinking?
- 13:48Well, why? Why do?
- 13:50Why does it matter? Right.
- 13:52Why? Right.
- 13:53And also things that are never going to happen, but could
- 13:56potentially happen, right? And for example, you know, say
- 14:02you have a job that this is not a personal experience at all,
- 14:06but say, you know, you have a job at a business that you don't
- 14:09think is going to be a successful business, you know,
- 14:13and you want to look for a new job, but you know, it's going to
- 14:15make everyone else upset. And why, why are you not going
- 14:19to move on that, you know, just a lot of different.
- 14:22You have. To talk to yourself more than we
- 14:24do, I think. Yeah, it's, it's about finding
- 14:26out really, what is the bottom line problem that's making you
- 14:31so upset about this. And without being defensive when
- 14:35you're talking also to the person you know, without, you're
- 14:38not allowed to be defensive. You're not allowed to make
- 14:43statements. It's always, well, why?
- 14:45Why do you feel this way? And they say, I don't know, I
- 14:49just do. And not nagging them, not going
- 14:52on and on and on about it, which, you know, sometimes you
- 14:55can be like, especially as women, I'm not trying.
- 14:59Right, right. Right.
- 15:00Right. Exactly.
- 15:01So that was a big one for me and also friendships later in life I
- 15:08that really made a lot of sense because you know me, we always
- 15:11talk everybody about what a homebody I am and it really made
- 15:14sense. Like if you want to be included
- 15:18in things, then make an effort. If you want, if you move
- 15:22somewhere new and you have no friends, make an effort.
- 15:26And people think everybody should come to them and
- 15:29everybody should call them and include them.
- 15:33And I love that. It kind of turned that whole
- 15:35thing around. Like, no, you, you reach out to
- 15:38people, you make an effort. If they, if they rather than
- 15:41feel slighted right. If somebody has a party and
- 15:46you're not invited, and this is the example we used earlier, let
- 15:49them, but let me do things now that are more actively moving
- 15:56towards solidifying my friendship.
- 15:58So there are parties that I get invited to, right?
- 16:00And that's the difference between just saying let them and
- 16:04then also figuring out, OK, I'm going to let them do their thing
- 16:08and I'm not going to get myself all wrapped up in it, but I'm
- 16:11also going to take some action and I'm not going to sit back
- 16:14and let it happen again. Because, you know, fool me once
- 16:16shame on you twice, shame on me kind of thing.
- 16:18That's not something from the book.
- 16:20That's just saying like, if that keeps happening, sometimes a
- 16:24pattern really is a pattern. And if you're the only
- 16:26consistent in that. Pattern.
- 16:28Then yes, you have to think, OK, I've got to do something
- 16:31different. I love the section, even though
- 16:33it doesn't apply to me on dating because when she's talking to
- 16:36these young women and saying, if you're getting nothing back in
- 16:41your text, that's how he feels, right?
- 16:45Right. You have to.
- 16:46If they want to show you who they are, let them, right?
- 16:50Don't go out of your way to make excuses for them.
- 16:53Let them show you who they are, right?
- 16:55And then I can't remember exactly how she said it, but it
- 16:57was something to the effect of if you're wondering if you're
- 17:00confused there, there's your answer.
- 17:04Because if you're wondering if he likes you and you think he
- 17:06does, there's your answer. If you're confused about his
- 17:09feelings, there's your answer, because when he if he has
- 17:13legitimately good feelings and good intentions or she it's
- 17:18going to, it's not going to be a confusing situation.
- 17:21It's going to be crystal clear. Right, well, and I saw in TikTok
- 17:25one of these where they put a bunch of Carrie and Big scenes
- 17:29together, but they they put them together for how pathetic she
- 17:33was. On constant the city.
- 17:35Yeah, and constantly, you know, going after him even though he
- 17:40wasn't interested. And they, they clipped them all
- 17:43together. And I thought about that because
- 17:45I'm like, Oh my God, when you see it like that, you're like,
- 17:48gosh, she was just driving that man insane and like kind of just
- 17:54really inappropriate when you see it all lined up together and
- 17:58not letting him make any moves or any feelings really towards
- 18:02her, of course, until the movie. But it just, yeah, I mean, like,
- 18:08it's great for younger people, in my opinion, to be reading
- 18:11that chapter because with social media and everything, people
- 18:15read into things when they're dating that I mean.
- 18:19Well, there's a great country song called If he wanted To, he
- 18:22would, right? And it's like, you know, just
- 18:24'cause he wished you happy birthday on your birthday.
- 18:27Right. You know, he didn't text you and
- 18:29say let's get back together, 'cause guess what?
- 18:31If he wanted to, he would. He would.
- 18:33And that's kind of the deal with most people in this world.
- 18:35If, you know, if they wanted to, they would.
- 18:38I mean, I've made millions of excuses for people over the
- 18:40years and I'm sure people have done that for me.
- 18:44But at the end of the day, you got to let people show you who
- 18:47they are. I agree.
- 18:49And the other part that I loved was rescuing people.
- 18:52You need to step back and allow adults to face consequences for
- 18:56their actions. I have to be honest.
- 18:59I don't think I did that until my late 50s, honestly.
- 19:03Maybe, yeah, Late 50s. Oh yeah.
- 19:05Oh yeah. I had to, like, fix everything.
- 19:09I had to. Yeah, I'm a fixer.
- 19:11And I had to, you know, I couldn't just sit back and watch
- 19:15a train wreck. Now I I can do it.
- 19:18It's not easy, by the way. It took a lot of work, but I
- 19:23knew better. I could fix the situation if
- 19:26they would just listen, you know what I mean?
- 19:29And after. This book is for really is the
- 19:31fixers out there. Yeah, I'm a.
- 19:33Former fixer, but. Fixers and the naggers.
- 19:36I'm the naggers and I'm the fixer.
- 19:38The fixer because I have all the answers.
- 19:40And if you would just listen, your life would be so much
- 19:43easier. And people have to learn on
- 19:46their own. And that's what that's why I
- 19:47said some things in this book are common sense, because I kind
- 19:50of learned that way before this book.
- 19:52And you have to let people, they're grown adults, let them
- 19:57fall, let them make mistakes, let them do things you wouldn't
- 20:01approve of. They're grown adults.
- 20:04They're grown ass. Yes, and you just have to let
- 20:08them be. And yeah.
- 20:10So as long as we're on the subject of Mel Robbins, there's
- 20:14something else she made a video about.
- 20:16And I just love it so much. And I, I, I've never done this.
- 20:20If I did anything, my husband would think I'm crazy.
- 20:22And I know you're never going to do it, but it's called
- 20:23Slytherin. Have you ever seen her video
- 20:25about Slytherin? She suggests, look this up, Mel
- 20:30Robin Slytherin, that when you wake up in the morning, you
- 20:33should slither out of bed. And then she does it.
- 20:37She's in her bed. And if I wasn't wearing a dress
- 20:39right now in these ridiculous shoes and I can't walk in, I
- 20:43would show you. But she slithers out of her bed
- 20:48and basically slides into the bathroom or wherever she's got
- 20:51to go next and doesn't even stand up until she's been out of
- 20:54the bed for like at least 1520 seconds.
- 20:57She's just Slytherin from the bed.
- 20:58Her idea being that that's how you're going to very gradually
- 21:01get out of bed and wake up in the morning.
- 21:03You're going to slither out of the bed.
- 21:05You're looking at me like it makes sense.
- 21:07Yeah, well, only because I'd be the one that would like not be
- 21:10able to get up like I'd have I. Told you this before.
- 21:12I think I have now that I think about it, but it's obviously not
- 21:16made an impression on you. Why would you want to do that?
- 21:19I don't know. I would never want to do that.
- 21:22I know you wouldn't. You know me, I would never.
- 21:24Slip out of bed or do. You No, I don't bolt out of bed
- 21:28because I don't get up to an alarm.
- 21:31I automatically get up around 5:30, quarter six automatically.
- 21:35It's just in my clock. So I lay in bed and like, you
- 21:40know, watch TV for 15 minutes, watch the news for 15 minutes.
- 21:45But I I'm not a pop out of bed kind of person.
- 21:49I have to gradually, slowly get up well.
- 21:52I'll find this and I'll put it on our Instagram stories or in
- 21:55our ladies only Facebook. I'm going to make a prediction
- 21:58though. She is the Oprah of this
- 22:00generation. She's going to have her own talk
- 22:03show. She's going to have many, many
- 22:05books in her future and she is going to be what Oprah was to
- 22:10us, to this next generation. I think it's fantastic.
- 22:13Everyone needs an Oprah in their generation, but that's my
- 22:17prediction just from listening to this book.
- 22:20She has that very Oprah feel to her and she's highly connected
- 22:27in the world of having people on her podcast.
- 22:31And I just think she's going to just take this ball and roll
- 22:35with it, which is fantastic, so. Yeah, she's got some pearls of
- 22:39wisdom in that book for sure. And if you have a daughter?
- 22:43I think that's a great. Gift like you gave it to your
- 22:45daughter. So anyway, we want to tell you
- 22:47how much we appreciate you being with us for this podcast.
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- 23:00It's called uncluttered and unfiltered ladies only.
- 23:02We'll let you write in and. And we're doing Brooke Shields
- 23:06book next. Yeah, next month.
- 23:08So ladies, if you want to read along, but I am excited for that
- 23:13book. I really am.
- 23:14I've heard, I've heard her talk about it on different social
- 23:18medias and on, you know, the Today show and stuff.
- 23:21So I'm excited to read that book.
- 23:24Me too. Me too.
- 23:25It's called. Well, not really.
- 23:26Read. Listen.
- 23:27Shields is not allowed to get old is what it's called.
- 23:29So one of the things in Mel Robbins book she talks about is
- 23:33the difference between let it go and let them.
- 23:35So even if someone comes along and writes a book called Let
- 23:40Them and says that it's different than Let it Go, you
- 23:43can still read Let them and then let it go.
- 23:46And don't look back.